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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, tensions between police and the former Labor government was
certainly aired last week at the annual Police Conference, as
Labor really has struggled, had struggled to get the issue
of crime under control and boost morale within the police force. Now,
as we know, Labor was well and truly booted from
government on the weekend, with the COLP set to take
the reins. The Northern Territory Police Association President Nathan Finn
(00:24):
met with the Chief Minister Elect Leofanochi Airo yesterday to
discuss the association's policing priorities and the colp's commitment to
our police. Now joining me in the studio is the
Police Association President Nathan Finn.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning to your Finny.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And what a great morning it is to be a
territory and obviously representing our fine members of our police force.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now we know Friday tensions were pretty high.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You'd have to say at the Police Association conference that
I was up to my eyeballs in the election, so
I couldn't even I didn't get to cover the conference
on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But you know, how did that all roll out?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
There's some heated moments, definitely, Catie, but we're pretty disappointed
at the Police minister priorities and rocking up nearly in
excessive ten minutes late to our conference and walking in
halfway through my opening speech was pretty disrespectful to us
and our members and shows his real priorities. And he
wondered why he's been shown the door, and he deserves
to be shown the door and he's been deserve to
show the door for the last fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Months so he's been acting as the Police Minister.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It doesn't sound like there's any love loss there.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Finney Well, I love him.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
He's a great bloke in the best of times, but
he's done his job very poorly and we've held him
to account and that in that fact, and our members
have been trying to hold him to account in that
fact as well. It hasn't been personal at all, Katie. Yeah,
he's got a job to do. But again, if he
chooses not to listen to the Northern Territory Police Association,
the voice of our members across the Northern Territory Police.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Force, he's chosen. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Unfortunately it's been shown the reasons why he should have listened.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now, obviously we know a new government elected on the weekend,
but what were the main concerns that were really raised
at the annual conference as well on Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So main issues is especially around our election commitments, was
exactly what we're talking about our conference. So our main
concerns was around our recruitment or attention to making sure
our members and experienced members are retained in the Northern
Churchy Police Force. Recruitment to the Northern Churchy Police Forces
is maintained as well, the mental health and well being
of our members, fatigue management to make sure our members
(02:18):
aren't being burnt out, to make sure they're healthy and well,
assaults on police, the extraordinary amount of overtime our members
are doing. There's a number of topics remote policing, housing,
points of sale, intervention, second tier policing. The list rolls on,
but it was a great forum. The conference went extremely well.
We got our points across very well. It was strategic
(02:40):
obviously placing it before the day before the election to
show how we're struggling to maintain that support for our members.
These commitments have been made by the COLP government today
and yesterday, and the commitment that's been provided by the
Chief Minister elect Leaf and Ocatum and maintain the police
portfolio is shows as a huge respect.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So you met with her yesterday, Leah Fanocchiaro. She has
confirmed that she is going to maintain that police portfolio.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, Katie is exactly and she confirmed that and made
sure that we felt supported. The NTPA felt supported being
the voice of our members. But again, we don't get
these commitments without the work done by the Northern Churchy
Police Association on.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Behalf our members. This is not something that's done by
the Commission. It's not something that's done by the Executive.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
We fight for these conditions to make sure the legislation
changes are there to support our members and to make
sure their mental health and well being is supported.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
By She's flagged a number of legislative changes, including re
lowering the criminal age as well as some changes to
bail and you know, strengthening of bail laws. Finny, from
the member's perspective, is that going to make a difference
to the job in which they're doing every day.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's going to make a huge difference.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
To Katie, and we've seen time and time again our
members have been frustrated by the catch and release policy
we've currently got with this legislation and policies. Unfortunately, the
room for the hug and release program that we've seen
under the Labor government is going to change and people
are going to be held responsible for their criminal actions,
which is something our members have been asking for for
a long long time. And to get those changes in place,
(04:11):
it's going to take some time. We know legislation takes
a while to change, but it's positive for our members.
Our members are feeling positive with this change of government
and the support that this government is showing.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I mean hug and release program there. I know there'll
be some advocates going that's the way to go. Evidence
supports that, you know, that treating children in that way
is a better option rather than locking them up.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But I mean, we've got a real problem on our
hands right.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Now, Katie.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It's not their first option, and our members don't want
to have that option either. But when it's continually playing
and continually being thrown in our members face and the
members of the community's faces, when they're being victims multiple
times these we don't want to lock up these kids
on the first occasions, but if there's no other option,
if they're not learning what else do we do, Katie.
We need to make sure that our community is safe
and make sure our police officers support in what they
(04:57):
need to do, and they saying that this needs.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To change, Finni.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
In terms of that morale, now, this is something you
and I have spoken about before, and over the last
few years. There's been so much criticism of the government
and the way in which they're dealing with crime. But
then there's also you know, there's been a lot of
understanding about the fact that the police are under resource,
but there's also frustration from the community in the sense
that they call the police and they're not actually always
(05:22):
able to get somebody to respond to an incident. How's
the police morale on that front, because I would imagine
that's the last thing that they want to happen.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
The frontline members are still struggling with the day to
day to means of crime across the Northern Territory and
that we're not going to downplay that at all. That's
still an issue and still the morale is still struggling
on the front line. We need to work out how
we can support the front line in the immediate future
and to make sure that that workload that they're currently
experiencing is reduced to make sure they feel supported. It's
going to take some time, but again, the government's making
(05:54):
the right decisions and changing the right legislation to make
sure our members are feeling supported. And to do that,
we also need reitment and retention and they're the biggest
issues that we faced at the Northern Territory Police. To
make sure we're an attractive employer for those that want
to join the police to start with, but also once
our experienced members are in, to make sure how we
retain those members.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, look, I'll talk about that retention bonus in just
a second, but I know that you did meet, as
you touched on just a moment ago, you've met with
the new Chief Minister elect. What other things have you raised?
Really as a matter of priority.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The legislation changes are important, but also putting in place
infrastructure for our remote policing, to make sure that there's
accommodation at the Police College to make sure we can
meet the demand of recruitment and to make sure that
there's enough staff there to train these additional members. That's
our biggest thing at the moment, and we need to
show that we're supporting the front line and putting our
members back on the front line where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And even last week we'd had somebody call through and
I'm not one hundred percent sure whether it was confirmed
or not, but we'd had somebody called through saying that
officers in one of the remote communities had been targeted
or certainly their property had been targeted. Do you know
if that has been the case in recent days.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I did get the same message on Friday when I
was at the conference in relation to that West Daily
region of the station's out there, that they were set
upon and accommodation facilities were and that's something we spoke
about the conference and something we try to get commitments
for from the Commission and also from the government as well,
to make sure that when our members are in these
remote police stations, to make sure that the security of
their housing, the security of their compounds, etc. At the
(07:23):
forefront of their thinking when they're out there. Otherwise, if
it's not safe for our members to be there, we
don't want them there, and they shouldn't be there if
they're not going to get treated right and treated respectfully
by these communities, then the police.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Themselves now finny in terms of these retention bonuses, when
are you expecting those to kick in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
That's a discussion. Obviously, this stuff needs to be funded
and going through, and that's why the initial suggestion was
for a twelve month period from the COLP and their commitments.
The Chief Minister or the Chief Minister electors made that
promise that this is going to roll out and not
roll out just for the twelve month trial. This is
going to go into the future to make sure we
get to maintain our experience members. We want to see
this come to free sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
How big a difference do your record it's actually going
to make in terms of retaining, you know, like retaining
police officers, because that's been a big worry for us, right.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It's definitely something to work towards, and it's definitely something
that we can initially do. There's a number of things
that members of Arks for and experienced members of Arks
for going forward, but this is one thing to look
at and retaining and specifically retaining that experience to make
sure we're not losing those members to interstate jurisdictions. Our
workload is ten times most other jurisdictions across Australia, the
(08:29):
crime rate is ten times any other jurisdictions across.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Australia, and like in the numbers, ten times.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I'd have to look at it, but roughly just saying
that it's roughly about that Cadie per population. We see
a huge amount of work that our members are doing
day in, day out, and why wouldn't you look at
getting paid the same sort of money going into state
and doing half the work or ten times less work.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'd think about it as well. But we need to
make it more attractive to the Northern Territory and.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Make sure our members remain as a Northern Territory Police
officer both now and into the future.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And this is great step to start with.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That Finny before I let you go, I know as
well at the police conference on Friday, obviously the Commissioner,
the Police Commissioner spoke I know that. On the same day,
John L. Frink, the former Attorney General and former Northern
Territory Police officer, had spoken to the Northern Territory News
and said that he was returning his police medal back
(09:22):
to the Northern Territory Police. Following on from the Commissioner
making his apology at Gama, What did you make of
that situation.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's very disappointing, Katie.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
These members have served with distinction over many, many years,
and that's the feeling that they felt when this apology
was made on their behalf. They felt like this apology
was made on behalf of them when they feel that
they haven't done nothing wrong. I tried to make that
quite clear at conference. I apologize to our members of
the police force for their actions and the actions have
been taken against them over a number of years, from
a number of range of things, some senior management across
(09:52):
the government, from the crime being assaulted. It's a true
fact that our members suffer every single day and they
need to feel like they're being supported, and they didn't
feel like they're being supported that time. So we made
that quite clear to the Commission, and the Commission clarified
his comments at conference to us again, it's sad that
members feel that they have to give their service medals back.
(10:13):
They serve with honor and they should be awarded.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Those are those that have given those medals back, or
just John L. Frank, the former minister, any others.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But again there's some sentiment across the retired police Association
and from their representations as well. There's a lot of
members thinking about the same thing and that's disappointing, Katie,
because they've done the.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Hard It is really sad.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Actually they've gouged the way of for our current police
officer to do the role that they need to do.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We need to make sure that we respect what they've done.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
There have been some tragedies in the past again, but
those members have been involved and that have been held
to account. It's not a reflection of our true professional
police force that we've got.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Our members are subject to internal discipline process that's like
no other. We're under scrutiny every single day of the week.
They feel this and they know this, and they're held
to account whenever they do make it. It sometimes it's lightest mistake.
They feel the pressure of that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well. Northern Territory Police Association President Nathan Finn, we better
leave it. They're always good to catch up with you.
Thanks so much for your time today.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Always good Katie, and yeah, look forward to working with
Leafanokia and her team. I've reached out to a number
of her members over the last few days and it's
great to have that support and that the trust is
going to flow back to our members and make sure
that they can do the best job they possibly can
with what we've got. And I truly thank the CLP
for coming on board and having those conversations early, because
(11:31):
that's one more conversation I had with the previous Chief
Minister who chose not to even meet with.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Us or discuss anything with us.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So I congratulate Leir on reaching out to us and
making sure that our members are heard.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, there's a lot of good will there at the
moment towards the new COLP government. You know, I know
it's going to take some time, but I hope they
hope they hit the ground running, and I hope that
it makes a big impact because goodness knows, the territory
needs it.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And our men and women in Blue need it as well.
We can't thank them enough for what they do.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
We're always here to have their back and make sure
they're supported.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Nathan Finn, good to catch up with you this morning.
Thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Thanks Gutting
Now, tensions between police and the former Labor government was
certainly aired last week at the annual Police Conference, as
Labor really has struggled, had struggled to get the issue
of crime under control and boost morale within the police force. Now,
as we know, Labor was well and truly booted from
government on the weekend, with the COLP set to take
the reins. The Northern Territory Police Association President Nathan Finn
(00:24):
met with the Chief Minister Elect Leofanochi Airo yesterday to
discuss the association's policing priorities and the colp's commitment to
our police. Now joining me in the studio is the
Police Association President Nathan Finn.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning to your Finny.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And what a great morning it is to be a
territory and obviously representing our fine members of our police force.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now we know Friday tensions were pretty high.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You'd have to say at the Police Association conference that
I was up to my eyeballs in the election, so
I couldn't even I didn't get to cover the conference
on Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But you know, how did that all roll out?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
There's some heated moments, definitely, Catie, but we're pretty disappointed
at the Police minister priorities and rocking up nearly in
excessive ten minutes late to our conference and walking in
halfway through my opening speech was pretty disrespectful to us
and our members and shows his real priorities. And he
wondered why he's been shown the door, and he deserves
to be shown the door and he's been deserve to
show the door for the last fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Months so he's been acting as the Police Minister.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It doesn't sound like there's any love loss there.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Finney Well, I love him.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
He's a great bloke in the best of times, but
he's done his job very poorly and we've held him
to account and that in that fact, and our members
have been trying to hold him to account in that
fact as well. It hasn't been personal at all, Katie. Yeah,
he's got a job to do. But again, if he
chooses not to listen to the Northern Territory Police Association,
the voice of our members across the Northern Territory Police.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Force, he's chosen. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Unfortunately it's been shown the reasons why he should have listened.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now, obviously we know a new government elected on the weekend,
but what were the main concerns that were really raised
at the annual conference as well on Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So main issues is especially around our election commitments, was
exactly what we're talking about our conference. So our main
concerns was around our recruitment or attention to making sure
our members and experienced members are retained in the Northern
Churchy Police Force. Recruitment to the Northern Churchy Police Forces
is maintained as well, the mental health and well being
of our members, fatigue management to make sure our members
(02:18):
aren't being burnt out, to make sure they're healthy and well,
assaults on police, the extraordinary amount of overtime our members
are doing. There's a number of topics remote policing, housing,
points of sale, intervention, second tier policing. The list rolls on,
but it was a great forum. The conference went extremely well.
We got our points across very well. It was strategic
(02:40):
obviously placing it before the day before the election to
show how we're struggling to maintain that support for our members.
These commitments have been made by the COLP government today
and yesterday, and the commitment that's been provided by the
Chief Minister elect Leaf and Ocatum and maintain the police
portfolio is shows as a huge respect.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So you met with her yesterday, Leah Fanocchiaro. She has
confirmed that she is going to maintain that police portfolio.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, Katie is exactly and she confirmed that and made
sure that we felt supported. The NTPA felt supported being
the voice of our members. But again, we don't get
these commitments without the work done by the Northern Churchy
Police Association on.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Behalf our members. This is not something that's done by
the Commission. It's not something that's done by the Executive.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
We fight for these conditions to make sure the legislation
changes are there to support our members and to make
sure their mental health and well being is supported.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
By She's flagged a number of legislative changes, including re
lowering the criminal age as well as some changes to
bail and you know, strengthening of bail laws. Finny, from
the member's perspective, is that going to make a difference
to the job in which they're doing every day.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's going to make a huge difference.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
To Katie, and we've seen time and time again our
members have been frustrated by the catch and release policy
we've currently got with this legislation and policies. Unfortunately, the
room for the hug and release program that we've seen
under the Labor government is going to change and people
are going to be held responsible for their criminal actions,
which is something our members have been asking for for
a long long time. And to get those changes in place,
(04:11):
it's going to take some time. We know legislation takes
a while to change, but it's positive for our members.
Our members are feeling positive with this change of government
and the support that this government is showing.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I mean hug and release program there. I know there'll
be some advocates going that's the way to go. Evidence
supports that, you know, that treating children in that way
is a better option rather than locking them up.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But I mean, we've got a real problem on our
hands right.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Now, Katie.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It's not their first option, and our members don't want
to have that option either. But when it's continually playing
and continually being thrown in our members face and the
members of the community's faces, when they're being victims multiple
times these we don't want to lock up these kids
on the first occasions, but if there's no other option,
if they're not learning what else do we do, Katie.
We need to make sure that our community is safe
and make sure our police officers support in what they
(04:57):
need to do, and they saying that this needs.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
To change, Finni.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
In terms of that morale, now, this is something you
and I have spoken about before, and over the last
few years. There's been so much criticism of the government
and the way in which they're dealing with crime. But
then there's also you know, there's been a lot of
understanding about the fact that the police are under resource,
but there's also frustration from the community in the sense
that they call the police and they're not actually always
(05:22):
able to get somebody to respond to an incident. How's
the police morale on that front, because I would imagine
that's the last thing that they want to happen.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
The frontline members are still struggling with the day to
day to means of crime across the Northern Territory and
that we're not going to downplay that at all. That's
still an issue and still the morale is still struggling
on the front line. We need to work out how
we can support the front line in the immediate future
and to make sure that that workload that they're currently
experiencing is reduced to make sure they feel supported. It's
going to take some time, but again, the government's making
(05:54):
the right decisions and changing the right legislation to make
sure our members are feeling supported. And to do that,
we also need reitment and retention and they're the biggest
issues that we faced at the Northern Territory Police. To
make sure we're an attractive employer for those that want
to join the police to start with, but also once
our experienced members are in, to make sure how we
retain those members.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, look, I'll talk about that retention bonus in just
a second, but I know that you did meet, as
you touched on just a moment ago, you've met with
the new Chief Minister elect. What other things have you raised?
Really as a matter of priority.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
The legislation changes are important, but also putting in place
infrastructure for our remote policing, to make sure that there's
accommodation at the Police College to make sure we can
meet the demand of recruitment and to make sure that
there's enough staff there to train these additional members. That's
our biggest thing at the moment, and we need to
show that we're supporting the front line and putting our
members back on the front line where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And even last week we'd had somebody call through and
I'm not one hundred percent sure whether it was confirmed
or not, but we'd had somebody called through saying that
officers in one of the remote communities had been targeted
or certainly their property had been targeted. Do you know
if that has been the case in recent days.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I did get the same message on Friday when I
was at the conference in relation to that West Daily
region of the station's out there, that they were set
upon and accommodation facilities were and that's something we spoke
about the conference and something we try to get commitments
for from the Commission and also from the government as well,
to make sure that when our members are in these
remote police stations, to make sure that the security of
their housing, the security of their compounds, etc. At the
(07:23):
forefront of their thinking when they're out there. Otherwise, if
it's not safe for our members to be there, we
don't want them there, and they shouldn't be there if
they're not going to get treated right and treated respectfully
by these communities, then the police.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Themselves now finny in terms of these retention bonuses, when
are you expecting those to kick in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
That's a discussion. Obviously, this stuff needs to be funded
and going through, and that's why the initial suggestion was
for a twelve month period from the COLP and their commitments.
The Chief Minister or the Chief Minister electors made that
promise that this is going to roll out and not
roll out just for the twelve month trial. This is
going to go into the future to make sure we
get to maintain our experience members. We want to see
this come to free sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
How big a difference do your record it's actually going
to make in terms of retaining, you know, like retaining
police officers, because that's been a big worry for us, right.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It's definitely something to work towards, and it's definitely something
that we can initially do. There's a number of things
that members of Arks for and experienced members of Arks
for going forward, but this is one thing to look
at and retaining and specifically retaining that experience to make
sure we're not losing those members to interstate jurisdictions. Our
workload is ten times most other jurisdictions across Australia, the
(08:29):
crime rate is ten times any other jurisdictions across.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Australia, and like in the numbers, ten times.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I'd have to look at it, but roughly just saying
that it's roughly about that Cadie per population. We see
a huge amount of work that our members are doing
day in, day out, and why wouldn't you look at
getting paid the same sort of money going into state
and doing half the work or ten times less work.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'd think about it as well. But we need to
make it more attractive to the Northern Territory and.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Make sure our members remain as a Northern Territory Police
officer both now and into the future.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And this is great step to start with.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That Finny before I let you go, I know as
well at the police conference on Friday, obviously the Commissioner,
the Police Commissioner spoke I know that. On the same day,
John L. Frink, the former Attorney General and former Northern
Territory Police officer, had spoken to the Northern Territory News
and said that he was returning his police medal back
(09:22):
to the Northern Territory Police. Following on from the Commissioner
making his apology at Gama, What did you make of
that situation.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's very disappointing, Katie.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
These members have served with distinction over many, many years,
and that's the feeling that they felt when this apology
was made on their behalf. They felt like this apology
was made on behalf of them when they feel that
they haven't done nothing wrong. I tried to make that
quite clear at conference. I apologize to our members of
the police force for their actions and the actions have
been taken against them over a number of years, from
a number of range of things, some senior management across
(09:52):
the government, from the crime being assaulted. It's a true
fact that our members suffer every single day and they
need to feel like they're being supported, and they didn't
feel like they're being supported that time. So we made
that quite clear to the Commission, and the Commission clarified
his comments at conference to us again, it's sad that
members feel that they have to give their service medals back.
(10:13):
They serve with honor and they should be awarded.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Those are those that have given those medals back, or
just John L. Frank, the former minister, any others.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
But again there's some sentiment across the retired police Association
and from their representations as well. There's a lot of
members thinking about the same thing and that's disappointing, Katie,
because they've done the.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Hard It is really sad.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Actually they've gouged the way of for our current police
officer to do the role that they need to do.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We need to make sure that we respect what they've done.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
There have been some tragedies in the past again, but
those members have been involved and that have been held
to account. It's not a reflection of our true professional
police force that we've got.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Our members are subject to internal discipline process that's like
no other. We're under scrutiny every single day of the week.
They feel this and they know this, and they're held
to account whenever they do make it. It sometimes it's lightest mistake.
They feel the pressure of that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well. Northern Territory Police Association President Nathan Finn, we better
leave it. They're always good to catch up with you.
Thanks so much for your time today.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Always good Katie, and yeah, look forward to working with
Leafanokia and her team. I've reached out to a number
of her members over the last few days and it's
great to have that support and that the trust is
going to flow back to our members and make sure
that they can do the best job they possibly can
with what we've got. And I truly thank the CLP
for coming on board and having those conversations early, because
(11:31):
that's one more conversation I had with the previous Chief
Minister who chose not to even meet with.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Us or discuss anything with us.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So I congratulate Leir on reaching out to us and
making sure that our members are heard.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, there's a lot of good will there at the
moment towards the new COLP government. You know, I know
it's going to take some time, but I hope they
hope they hit the ground running, and I hope that
it makes a big impact because goodness knows, the territory
needs it.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And our men and women in Blue need it as well.
We can't thank them enough for what they do.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
We're always here to have their back and make sure
they're supported.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Nathan Finn, good to catch up with you this morning.
Thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Thanks Gutting
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