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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now more than a week ago, we know the IKAC
(00:02):
delegate Patricia Kelly found Michael Murphy had committed unsatisfactory conduct
in the management of conflicts of interest after failing to
disclose the full extent of their friendship with the candidate,
despite remaining on the recruitment panel and providing them with
a reference. Now, Miss Kelly called mister Murphy's actions negligent
(00:23):
and incompetent, stating they should have recused themselves from the
recruitment process. Now we know he was not named in
that report, but days later obviously came out and outed
himself to confirm that he was indeed the senior public
servant in that report. Now, on the weekend, of course,
the Chief Minister Leofanocchiaro then issued a statement saying that
(00:45):
it was clear the Police Commissioner Michael Murphy apm's position
was untenable, and she had informed the commissioner that he'd
lost the confidence of the government and gave him the
opportunity to resign. She's now begun the pro seas to
terminate his appointment. The opposition leader Selena Rubo joins me
on the line right now. Good morning to you, Selena.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Good morning, Katie, and good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Now, Selena, do you believe that this is the right
move that the Chief Minister did, indeed need to begin
the process to terminate the commissioner's appointment.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Katie, First and foremost, I just want to say, thinking
of the hard working police who are out there on
the ground have been severely affected by this scandal. I
know that there's been a lot of morale around this
and the scandal, so I just wanted to put my
thoughts with the police at this point, Katie. I mean,
(01:41):
we think about the actions of Chief Minister for Nookiarro.
When the Ikak report was first delivered and announced, the
Chief Minister tried to cover it up and excused it
as a learning exercise. She took no action at the time,
and there was mounting pressure from both community and the
around this particular issue and how important it is to
(02:03):
territorians to be able to trust senior public servants, to
be able to trust those who are in leadership in
the Northern Territory. We saw no action by the Chief
Minister until days and days later, and you know, nine
o'clock on a Saturday night coming out with that line.
It's just not acceptable, Katie, and I think that it
(02:23):
shows that Leif and Nokia is not fit for the leadership.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So you actually think she shouldn't be the Chief Minister
as a result of.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
This, Well, I think it's a poor extremely poor formed
by Leif Nokira, who's also the police excuse me, the
police minister, Katie. We need to be able to trust
our leaders. And yes, we know that politicians get a
lot of flack and I'm not debuting, you know, not
debating that in terms of criticism and feedback from the community.
(02:51):
But when the community expects and demands action, they want
that at the highest level, Katie. They want that from
the Chief Minister, they want that from senior executives in
the public service. And this is clearly a failure of
Leofanocchiaro to do that, to meet community expectations, to be
a person of action, which is what she said she
(03:12):
would do, which is what she promised in the anti
election to territories that she would act and that she
would be open and transparent, and we have not seen
that with this latest debacle and this scandal which is
affecting our police.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Big call to question whether she should remain as the
Chief Minister. You know, when it's a week between that
Ikak report being released, she had said that she'd taken
the advice of the Solicitor General and indeed the Eyekak
in terms of their not naming that person. But then
once that person came out and outed themselves as being
(03:46):
the police commissioner, it then just taking a couple of
days for her to you know, to take the action
that she has. I mean, as I said, it's a
big call to question her leadership.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
From there, Katie, I think your listeners would know this,
saying very well, a week as a long time in politics,
so a lot of things have been followed it in
the last nine to ten days, and I think it's
just showing a very real disappointment in the lack of
leadership that Leafanokira offers as the chief Minister.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I want to ask again, do you think it's the
right move now to begin to terminate the police commissioner's appointment.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, Katie, I know that the Anti Police Association came
out very strongly around again around trust and integrity, around
having that in senior leadership, and announcing that we didn't
see that from leafanoki Ao as the Chief Minister or
the Police Minister. It came from the Police Association and
I think that now the right steps have been put
(04:47):
in motion. It's an ability, it's the ability to be
able to move forward so that police can get on
with the important job that they do, which was community
safety across the territory.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, some people are questioning if they're going to be
able to do We know this Martin Dole APM is
now indeed the acting Police Commissioner.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Do you support that appointment?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, it's interesting, Katie. I heard the Chief Minister on
your show yesterday saying that she didn't know that Dole
was also on the same hiring panel until yesterday morning,
and I find that extremely hard to believe, Katie. The
Chief Minister would have been briefed by the Aikat Commission
around Operation Apollo, who sat on that panel, and surely
(05:28):
this would be taken into consideration by the Chief Minister,
who is also the Police Minister, in appointing an interim commissioner,
And you would think, Katie, that would be the first
question you'd ask who else was on the panel so
we can move forward around this issue, around this scandal
and she's appointed Doll.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So given the fact that we do now know that
he was on that panel, I'm interested to get your perspective.
Do you think that he should be acting as the
police commissioner?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, Katie, I think right now, what the police need
and what terrritory want to be reassured of, is that
they can trust their leadership, that they can trust those
people who are in key decision making roles, particularly around
community safety. And I would welcome any measure, review, assessment
process that can be done to restore the trust for
our top police force so that we can restore the
(06:20):
confidence of the community back into the leadership of the police.
And I think that any measures that can be brought
forward into that to help our police move forward is
very much welcomed.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Look, I'll go back to that Nasik the you know,
with a review.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But in terms of Martin Dole acting now in that position,
I mean you yourself had said that you found it
hard to believe that the Chief Minister didn't know that
he was on that panel. Now, I want to make
it really clear, there is no suggestion that Martin Dole,
the acting Police Commissioner, has done anything wrong, but the
(06:55):
optics of this are not great. As I said to
the Chief Minister yesterday, So again, do you think he's
the right person to be acting as the Police Commissioner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, Katie, I don't show sorry, I'm similar to you.
I don't imply that Martin Doll has done anything wrong either.
But yesterday we heard the Chief Minister on your show saying, oh,
it'll all come out in the wash. I don't think
that's a response that's good enough from a Chief Minister
who's also the police Minister, when her job is to
(07:25):
ensure that the police are supported, that there is a
restoration of trust and integrity in the police force, and
that our hard working police on the ground can move forward.
So I think that any way to put this scandal
to bed would be which I would think would be
a priority for the Chief Minister who is also the
Police Minister. And now we're starting to see more questions
(07:48):
form around this appointment of the interim Commissioner, and I
don't think she's put the thought and leadership into how
important that role is for us as territorians to be
able to move forward from what's jess happened and what's
unraveled over the last week and a half.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So by the sounds of it, you don't think that
he should be acting in that role.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think the Chief Minister, if she was really wanting
to show leadership and put this scandal behind not just her,
but for territory AND's sake, for police sake, you would
think that you would choose somebody who was not necessarily
linked to that particular Operation Apollo and the KAC findings.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now, we did speak at lengthy yesterday to the Police
Association as well about whether there needs to be a
review into executive appointments. From what you said just a
moment ago, it sounds like you do think this needs
to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, Katie, again, I think that anything to be able
to support our police, to restore trust in those top
leadership roles and the executive of police so that community
and that police on the ground can have trust in
that leadership, I very much welcome any of those processes.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Now, there has been messages coming through this morning therese
listeners saying this whole situation actually unfolded under the former government.
Is there any way that the Labor Party, as in
the former Labor government, could have done more to prevent
these in terms of the akak legislation allowing that public
servant to be named or there being you know, some
(09:19):
greater measures in place with our different departments to ensure
that there wasn't a situation where you could actually employ
a mate.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, Katie, our labor government, our former labor government was
the first ever territory government to bring in the ikak.
The process of the ikak obviously gets reviewed and looked at,
and that's an act of Parliament around the legislation to
improve that over time. So again I'll be very interested
to see what the Colp government is planning to do
(09:51):
in that space. What we're talking about, though, Katie, is
a finding, an investigation and a report which still don't
know what those two recommendations are. We haven't been privy
to that and being explicit. The government hasn't been explicit
around those two recommendations from the report. What is going
(10:11):
to be done to move forward? What is going to
be done now we've had the Chief Minister fob things
off as a learning exercise, change her tune part way
through because of that community pressure and the media pressure,
and then come to a very severe action at the endpoint.
So that time span I know, as people say, a
(10:32):
couple of days, but a week is very long time
in politics as we know. But those processes that the
Chief Minister was talking about improving or essentially limiting her
ability to speak on this particular issue. We saw another
report from the IKAK around a high level public servant
(10:55):
doing the wrong thing. There was no response at all
from their finocchio as the Chief minister. They're about the
action of that public servant or how do we then
move forward and show integrity in the public service at
that high level to give territories the confidence that everyone
is doing the right thing and to the best of
their ability to serve the public, which.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Is definitely get what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But you know, the irony is not lost on me
that this behavior was actually under your term of government.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. So Katie, again, those hiring processes anythink that is
not a CEO level does not have the oversight from
the executive arm of the government of the day. So
whether that's a labor government, where that's the CLP government,
they are the processes to keep that distance around. Again,
what we've seen around hiring mates or interfering with the
(11:48):
final outcome of the hiring process at that height, particularly
at that high level, but at all levels of government.
So again, this is not about when someone was hired.
It's about the actions of what now has been for
by that report, by that investigation, what has happened since
that investigation and those recommendations were released, How the Chief
Minister has tried to cover it up and you have
(12:11):
it as a cop out, and then the pressure unfolding
on her and the late action that she has taken
and literally a late night action. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Look, I understand what you're saying. I get the point
that you're trying to make. But again I will say
we've got listeners literally messaging now saying Katie, it's a
bit rich for the opposition leader to make these comments
when there was no action taken against Chancey Paig with
his shares in metcash, there was not quick action on
the former police commissioner needing to be removed for want
(12:41):
of a better word, I mean, people sort of aren't
buying it this morning, Selena, Katie.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I understand the frustrations that. That's why when we see
those who are in leadership, this is why this is
such a high public interest matter, Katie. When people are
in leadership. It's about what they do. It's about the
expectations of community and the actions that follow. And when
there is a lack of action, then we really need
to be concerned and that's what we've seen from Leafanocciaro.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Selena Rubo, I want to ask you about an issue
that continues to rage on in Catherine at the moment,
and that is the concerns at the Catherine High School. Now,
it's being reported this morning in the Northern Territory News
that the cycle of violence at Catherine High has taken
hold in the town, with the school going in to
yet another lockdown yesterday morning. This followed a lockdown on
(13:31):
Friday afternoon after another violent school yard brawl, which saw
police again back at the school to sort the situation out.
Troubled parents of students at the school have been in
contact with the NT News saying, you know, telling them
horror stories the violence against children, backed up with videos
which have been filmed on the school's bus or in
the yards. Selena, what's going on at the school at
(13:54):
the moment? I know you know, I know that obviously
you are in the area.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
What are your thoughts, O, Katie? Any violence in schools
is absolutely unacceptable. The safety of students and staff and
visitors to the school should always be paramount, and it
has been concerning to see some of the particular incidences
occurring in a short period of time here locally in Catherine.
I think it's been very upsetting, not just of course
(14:22):
for students and staff, but for families and for cares
for students who are attending the school. I know that
the Casting community is really great at getting behind and
supporting each other when there are rough times, and I
hope that they continue to provide their support to the
Catherine High School students and staff. And I really hope
(14:46):
that they're the extra support, not just in terms of
that critical end that you know, the police end, but
all of the other layers of being able to support
young people in their journey, particularly those staff who do
an amazing job Dane and out to support our students.
I really hope that the Catherine community continues to band
together to really support the school in a really rough time.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
At the moment, Yeah, we'll try and talk a little
bit more about this. I think it's really important that
things do get sorted out. You need to ensure that
your kids are safe when they are going to school.
I mean, some of the vision that I've seen is appalling.
I'd be mortified if my child was a victim to
the bashing behavior that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, Katie, as I said, again, absolutely unacceptable and wanting
to support the school and the students and the staff
and the families as much as possible where we can
and continue to stamp out that unacceptable behavior and very
and very concerning behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Selena Obo, leader of the Opposition, Really appreciate your time
this morning. Thanks so much for having a chat with us.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Thank you, Katie, thank you.
Now more than a week ago, we know the IKAC
(00:02):
delegate Patricia Kelly found Michael Murphy had committed unsatisfactory conduct
in the management of conflicts of interest after failing to
disclose the full extent of their friendship with the candidate,
despite remaining on the recruitment panel and providing them with
a reference. Now, Miss Kelly called mister Murphy's actions negligent
(00:23):
and incompetent, stating they should have recused themselves from the
recruitment process. Now we know he was not named in
that report, but days later obviously came out and outed
himself to confirm that he was indeed the senior public
servant in that report. Now, on the weekend, of course,
the Chief Minister Leofanocchiaro then issued a statement saying that
(00:45):
it was clear the Police Commissioner Michael Murphy apm's position
was untenable, and she had informed the commissioner that he'd
lost the confidence of the government and gave him the
opportunity to resign. She's now begun the pro seas to
terminate his appointment. The opposition leader Selena Rubo joins me
on the line right now. Good morning to you, Selena.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Good morning, Katie, and good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Now, Selena, do you believe that this is the right
move that the Chief Minister did, indeed need to begin
the process to terminate the commissioner's appointment.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Katie, First and foremost, I just want to say, thinking
of the hard working police who are out there on
the ground have been severely affected by this scandal. I
know that there's been a lot of morale around this
and the scandal, so I just wanted to put my
thoughts with the police at this point, Katie. I mean,
(01:41):
we think about the actions of Chief Minister for Nookiarro.
When the Ikak report was first delivered and announced, the
Chief Minister tried to cover it up and excused it
as a learning exercise. She took no action at the time,
and there was mounting pressure from both community and the
around this particular issue and how important it is to
(02:03):
territorians to be able to trust senior public servants, to
be able to trust those who are in leadership in
the Northern Territory. We saw no action by the Chief
Minister until days and days later, and you know, nine
o'clock on a Saturday night coming out with that line.
It's just not acceptable, Katie, and I think that it
(02:23):
shows that Leif and Nokia is not fit for the leadership.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So you actually think she shouldn't be the Chief Minister
as a result of.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
This, Well, I think it's a poor extremely poor formed
by Leif Nokira, who's also the police excuse me, the
police minister, Katie. We need to be able to trust
our leaders. And yes, we know that politicians get a
lot of flack and I'm not debuting, you know, not
debating that in terms of criticism and feedback from the community.
(02:51):
But when the community expects and demands action, they want
that at the highest level, Katie. They want that from
the Chief Minister, they want that from senior executives in
the public service. And this is clearly a failure of
Leofanocchiaro to do that, to meet community expectations, to be
a person of action, which is what she said she
(03:12):
would do, which is what she promised in the anti
election to territories that she would act and that she
would be open and transparent, and we have not seen
that with this latest debacle and this scandal which is
affecting our police.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Big call to question whether she should remain as the
Chief Minister. You know, when it's a week between that
Ikak report being released, she had said that she'd taken
the advice of the Solicitor General and indeed the Eyekak
in terms of their not naming that person. But then
once that person came out and outed themselves as being
(03:46):
the police commissioner, it then just taking a couple of
days for her to you know, to take the action
that she has. I mean, as I said, it's a
big call to question her leadership.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
From there, Katie, I think your listeners would know this,
saying very well, a week as a long time in politics,
so a lot of things have been followed it in
the last nine to ten days, and I think it's
just showing a very real disappointment in the lack of
leadership that Leafanokira offers as the chief Minister.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I want to ask again, do you think it's the
right move now to begin to terminate the police commissioner's appointment.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, Katie, I know that the Anti Police Association came
out very strongly around again around trust and integrity, around
having that in senior leadership, and announcing that we didn't
see that from leafanoki Ao as the Chief Minister or
the Police Minister. It came from the Police Association and
I think that now the right steps have been put
(04:47):
in motion. It's an ability, it's the ability to be
able to move forward so that police can get on
with the important job that they do, which was community
safety across the territory.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, some people are questioning if they're going to be
able to do We know this Martin Dole APM is
now indeed the acting Police Commissioner.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Do you support that appointment?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, it's interesting, Katie. I heard the Chief Minister on
your show yesterday saying that she didn't know that Dole
was also on the same hiring panel until yesterday morning,
and I find that extremely hard to believe, Katie. The
Chief Minister would have been briefed by the Aikat Commission
around Operation Apollo, who sat on that panel, and surely
(05:28):
this would be taken into consideration by the Chief Minister,
who is also the Police Minister, in appointing an interim commissioner,
And you would think, Katie, that would be the first
question you'd ask who else was on the panel so
we can move forward around this issue, around this scandal
and she's appointed Doll.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So given the fact that we do now know that
he was on that panel, I'm interested to get your perspective.
Do you think that he should be acting as the
police commissioner?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, Katie, I think right now, what the police need
and what terrritory want to be reassured of, is that
they can trust their leadership, that they can trust those
people who are in key decision making roles, particularly around
community safety. And I would welcome any measure, review, assessment
process that can be done to restore the trust for
our top police force so that we can restore the
(06:20):
confidence of the community back into the leadership of the police.
And I think that any measures that can be brought
forward into that to help our police move forward is
very much welcomed.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Look, I'll go back to that Nasik the you know,
with a review.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But in terms of Martin Dole acting now in that position,
I mean you yourself had said that you found it
hard to believe that the Chief Minister didn't know that
he was on that panel. Now, I want to make
it really clear, there is no suggestion that Martin Dole,
the acting Police Commissioner, has done anything wrong, but the
(06:55):
optics of this are not great. As I said to
the Chief Minister yesterday, So again, do you think he's
the right person to be acting as the Police Commissioner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, Katie, I don't show sorry, I'm similar to you.
I don't imply that Martin Doll has done anything wrong either.
But yesterday we heard the Chief Minister on your show saying, oh,
it'll all come out in the wash. I don't think
that's a response that's good enough from a Chief Minister
who's also the police Minister, when her job is to
(07:25):
ensure that the police are supported, that there is a
restoration of trust and integrity in the police force, and
that our hard working police on the ground can move forward.
So I think that any way to put this scandal
to bed would be which I would think would be
a priority for the Chief Minister who is also the
Police Minister. And now we're starting to see more questions
(07:48):
form around this appointment of the interim Commissioner, and I
don't think she's put the thought and leadership into how
important that role is for us as territorians to be
able to move forward from what's jess happened and what's
unraveled over the last week and a half.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So by the sounds of it, you don't think that
he should be acting in that role.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think the Chief Minister, if she was really wanting
to show leadership and put this scandal behind not just her,
but for territory AND's sake, for police sake, you would
think that you would choose somebody who was not necessarily
linked to that particular Operation Apollo and the KAC findings.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now, we did speak at lengthy yesterday to the Police
Association as well about whether there needs to be a
review into executive appointments. From what you said just a
moment ago, it sounds like you do think this needs
to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, Katie, again, I think that anything to be able
to support our police, to restore trust in those top
leadership roles and the executive of police so that community
and that police on the ground can have trust in
that leadership, I very much welcome any of those processes.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Now, there has been messages coming through this morning therese
listeners saying this whole situation actually unfolded under the former government.
Is there any way that the Labor Party, as in
the former Labor government, could have done more to prevent
these in terms of the akak legislation allowing that public
servant to be named or there being you know, some
(09:19):
greater measures in place with our different departments to ensure
that there wasn't a situation where you could actually employ
a mate.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, Katie, our labor government, our former labor government was
the first ever territory government to bring in the ikak.
The process of the ikak obviously gets reviewed and looked at,
and that's an act of Parliament around the legislation to
improve that over time. So again I'll be very interested
to see what the Colp government is planning to do
(09:51):
in that space. What we're talking about, though, Katie, is
a finding, an investigation and a report which still don't
know what those two recommendations are. We haven't been privy
to that and being explicit. The government hasn't been explicit
around those two recommendations from the report. What is going
(10:11):
to be done to move forward? What is going to
be done now we've had the Chief Minister fob things
off as a learning exercise, change her tune part way
through because of that community pressure and the media pressure,
and then come to a very severe action at the endpoint.
So that time span I know, as people say, a
(10:32):
couple of days, but a week is very long time
in politics as we know. But those processes that the
Chief Minister was talking about improving or essentially limiting her
ability to speak on this particular issue. We saw another
report from the IKAK around a high level public servant
(10:55):
doing the wrong thing. There was no response at all
from their finocchio as the Chief minister. They're about the
action of that public servant or how do we then
move forward and show integrity in the public service at
that high level to give territories the confidence that everyone
is doing the right thing and to the best of
their ability to serve the public, which.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Is definitely get what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But you know, the irony is not lost on me
that this behavior was actually under your term of government.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. So Katie, again, those hiring processes anythink that is
not a CEO level does not have the oversight from
the executive arm of the government of the day. So
whether that's a labor government, where that's the CLP government,
they are the processes to keep that distance around. Again,
what we've seen around hiring mates or interfering with the
(11:48):
final outcome of the hiring process at that height, particularly
at that high level, but at all levels of government.
So again, this is not about when someone was hired.
It's about the actions of what now has been for
by that report, by that investigation, what has happened since
that investigation and those recommendations were released, How the Chief
Minister has tried to cover it up and you have
(12:11):
it as a cop out, and then the pressure unfolding
on her and the late action that she has taken
and literally a late night action. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Look, I understand what you're saying. I get the point
that you're trying to make. But again I will say
we've got listeners literally messaging now saying Katie, it's a
bit rich for the opposition leader to make these comments
when there was no action taken against Chancey Paig with
his shares in metcash, there was not quick action on
the former police commissioner needing to be removed for want
(12:41):
of a better word, I mean, people sort of aren't
buying it this morning, Selena, Katie.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I understand the frustrations that. That's why when we see
those who are in leadership, this is why this is
such a high public interest matter, Katie. When people are
in leadership. It's about what they do. It's about the
expectations of community and the actions that follow. And when
there is a lack of action, then we really need
to be concerned and that's what we've seen from Leafanocciaro.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Selena Rubo, I want to ask you about an issue
that continues to rage on in Catherine at the moment,
and that is the concerns at the Catherine High School. Now,
it's being reported this morning in the Northern Territory News
that the cycle of violence at Catherine High has taken
hold in the town, with the school going in to
yet another lockdown yesterday morning. This followed a lockdown on
(13:31):
Friday afternoon after another violent school yard brawl, which saw
police again back at the school to sort the situation out.
Troubled parents of students at the school have been in
contact with the NT News saying, you know, telling them
horror stories the violence against children, backed up with videos
which have been filmed on the school's bus or in
the yards. Selena, what's going on at the school at
(13:54):
the moment? I know you know, I know that obviously
you are in the area.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
What are your thoughts, O, Katie? Any violence in schools
is absolutely unacceptable. The safety of students and staff and
visitors to the school should always be paramount, and it
has been concerning to see some of the particular incidences
occurring in a short period of time here locally in Catherine.
I think it's been very upsetting, not just of course
(14:22):
for students and staff, but for families and for cares
for students who are attending the school. I know that
the Casting community is really great at getting behind and
supporting each other when there are rough times, and I
hope that they continue to provide their support to the
Catherine High School students and staff. And I really hope
(14:46):
that they're the extra support, not just in terms of
that critical end that you know, the police end, but
all of the other layers of being able to support
young people in their journey, particularly those staff who do
an amazing job Dane and out to support our students.
I really hope that the Catherine community continues to band
together to really support the school in a really rough time.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
At the moment, Yeah, we'll try and talk a little
bit more about this. I think it's really important that
things do get sorted out. You need to ensure that
your kids are safe when they are going to school.
I mean, some of the vision that I've seen is appalling.
I'd be mortified if my child was a victim to
the bashing behavior that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, Katie, as I said, again, absolutely unacceptable and wanting
to support the school and the students and the staff
and the families as much as possible where we can
and continue to stamp out that unacceptable behavior and very
and very concerning behavior.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Selena Obo, leader of the Opposition, Really appreciate your time
this morning. Thanks so much for having a chat with us.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Thank you, Katie, thank you.
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