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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining me live on the line is the Minister for Logistics,
Infrastructure Transport, Bill Yan. He's also the Treasurer.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning Bell, Good morning Katie, and burning to everybody
at the top end.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, great to have you on the show. Bill. Before
we get into all the issues in your portfolios, I
do just want to ask, obviously the Chief Minister making
the announcement yesterday that the independent inquiry into recent senior
police recruitments is going to get underway. It needs to happen,
doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, you've had a number of issues raised, of course, Kadie.
The Police Association of raise issues around possible recruitments since
twenty twenty three, so this is the opportunity to clear
the air on those recruitment issues. I really feel for
police in the last week or two there's been a
lot of I suppose mud throwin at them, and particularly
(00:51):
around the Executive of Police. So this is the opportunity
now for this review to go. I'll get underway around
that recruitment. So we've got Alan blow of course, you've
got no real connection to territory. You're a very professional man,
so he'll come in and do that review, and of
course his recommendations or whatever's in his review will of
(01:14):
course came back and be presented in Parliament. So it
gives the opportunity to deal with this issue, clear the
air on senior police and that recruitment since twenty twenty three,
So it will give our police a course, that opportunity
now to deal with this matter and to move on,
because they're doing a hell of a job at the moment,
I can tell you, Katie. I think we all know that,
(01:36):
and they need our support. And what's taken places, of
course casts some doubt in some areas. So it's the
opportunity to deal with that and it will be what
it will be at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And do you feel as though the chief that is
directed quickly enough?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Absolutely, Katie. But there's what I suppose. I've worked in
a public sector for a long time, so I probably
have a little bit more knowledge than others. But you
have to work through these things in a methodical maner.
You just can't come out and make an off the
cuff comment or decision. There's ways that things have to
be dealt with, and of course the way the police
(02:12):
destructured too is a little bit like that. The judiciary
is that they actually sit outside of government, so the
government can't come in and mess with them, and it's
done for a very very specific purpose. So to work
through that to be able to do what the chiefiness
have done in relation to the Commissioner, to call for
his or or start to work towards his termination everything else.
(02:37):
You can't just come out and do that at the
drop of a hat. There are processes you have to
go through and that we had to do and it
takes Look, it took a couple of days to do that,
and that's moving pretty quickly. So that work has been done.
And now as far as the review goes, you can't
just come out and announce review without terms of reference
without actually finding somebody to do it. So again, that
takes a little bit of time to do and it's
(02:58):
all happened pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So let's move along to your portfolios and plans to
relocate the Casuarina Bus Exchange. They've been up for discussion
well for quite some time, but back on the table
again this week, the Northern Territory News reporting that discussions
have resumed around a potential relocation for the essential public
transport infrastructure with a new Northern Suburbs site on the table.
(03:25):
Where are we at with this and why does it
need to move?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know, I'm still trying to figure out where this
one's come from. Katie. There's been no plans at all
from dly and of course the department I'm responsible for,
to move any bus exchanges and relocate them to other
suburbs in Darwin. There's an exceptional development permit up for
a transport terminal Lyana, but that's to do with the
(03:51):
Blue Taxi company in somewhere to garage these vehicles. So
someone's put two and two together and come up with
a thousand and then it's ended up on Fay Spoken.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So there's no plans. So there's actually no plans. There's
no plans to have the Casuarina bus exchange move to
that location.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Absolutely not Katie. But what we are doing because we
know there's issues around the bus interchanges we've had, we
have social issues and all sorts of other issues in
the interchange. We're still having issues on our bus network.
I've tasked the department to go away and look at
a number of measures to deal with safety and anti
social issues on the buses. So they're working through at
(04:32):
the moment, and as part of that entire review, we're
actually looking at the bus into changes as a whole
on how we can deal with the issues that we
see on those interchanges. So that's part of the larger
piece of work that we're doing around safety for public
transport in Darwin. So I'm waiting for the department to
come back with some of that stuff. I said. We're
(04:55):
reviewing what those interchanges look like and even to the
fact do we actually need the inter changes? Are we
able to better schedule the buses?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I think.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Record, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
A question people are starting to ask Bill, you know,
like they're sort of going, you know, I get it.
Maybe if if we're in Brisbane or Sydney or somewhere
like that. And I'm not saying that Darwin's you know, not,
you know, not a capital city, that's not the point
I'm making. But if it is a haven for anti
social behavior, if it is actually quite intimidating when you
(05:27):
get off there, if you've got kids that are frightened
to get off there, do you need it? I mean,
can we just actually think outside the box and reschedule things?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, that's what we're as part of this review Katie.
And so there was some work done by CDC that
the bus operator last year, so they done't a review
into a number of things we had that I've read
that as well, and plus the work the department doing.
It rolls out on the buses again, I think on
Tuesday or Wednesday night a few weeks ago to get
another first hand look about what's going on, and I
(05:58):
wasn't happy with some of the stuff that I've seen
at all. What I will say though, was particularly drives
and of course the Transitsecurity Office. They're doing an absolutely
phenomenal job dealing with the day to day issues we
see on that bus network, and I've got to take
my hat off to them. But the way they're able
to deal with matters and deal with them in such
a way that doesn't create conflict de escalates the issues
(06:22):
that we're seeing there. I said, those staff are doing
a fantastic job and without them, we'd have more issues
on the bus network. So we're looking at everything like
some of the routes. We know we have issues at
certain times on some bus routes, and we have issues
with at the end of the day, we're drunks using
the bus network and causing problems for other passengers. There's
(06:46):
a whole piece of work underway at the moment to
look at how we deal with that. Again, it's I
wish I could snap my fingers and deal with it tomorrow,
but it's going to take a little bit of work.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But so Bill, by the sounds of what you're saying,
it is apps asolutely on the table that we may
just get rid of that bus exchange altogether.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah. Look, if we can work out a way with
our scheduling and with the roots and bits and pieces,
we may not need those inner changes at all. So
I said, that piece of work is being done, and
if we can do that, we'll certainly move down that way.
And we've had some changes to CDC have moved their
base of operations, so that actually now works in our favor.
(07:30):
So we're working closely with the bus operator CDC to
look at how we may do all this are going
to provide a better network and provide better outcomes for travelers.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
How quickly is that review going to be complete?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't really have a time frame at the moment.
We probably kicked this off well. The initial discussion started
quite some time ago, but the specifics in the safety
really ramped up after we've see those issues with the
drivers being at late last year. So we've got those
screens and all that work done to try and provide
that extra protection for the drivers. Now we're looking at
(08:08):
the next step, which is, okay, we've got that drivers
safe so they can operate the buses in the safe manner.
Now it's okay, what do we do for the passengers,
the people using their service and the people waiting to
catch those buses either at the inner changes or be
it bus stops. We've done a lot of reviews around
some bus stops to Katie, we've changed some of those.
We've actually removed a couple because we it was just
(08:30):
causing issues and we had bus stops close by. So
there's a lot happening here.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And the problem is we've still got really quite bad
anti social behavior when it comes to our buses. And
that's something that we've actually received quite a bit of
feedback about this week. We said that we're going to
have you on the show yesterday, and people were messaging
through and saying, Katie, you know, we've had terrible situations
on our buses. You know, I had one person getting
(08:59):
contact with me saying that their eighty year old friend
had been catching the bus network and apparently ended up
with scabies, you know, getting on that bus and felt
really unsafe, so now walks to be able to go
to the gym. You know. I've had Jody, who's a
friend of the show who is legally blind, get in
(09:21):
contact with me quite often to tell me about horrendous
things that have happened on the bus. And unfortunately, Minister,
it does seem as though sometimes then, you know, it
is like it's the more vulnerable, like the elderly and
children and and you know, those in the community who
need to use that bus network that are feeling like
(09:41):
they actually can't because it's not safe.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No, you're you're right CTUs that I've been on the buses,
I've seen it first and and okay, I'm a bloke,
so it probably doesn't matter so much for me, but
I certainly see it for some of those elderly people
and vulnerable people who use network network. The thing that
happened to them first end. And that's I said, we're
working on there's some technology that we're working on, and
(10:05):
we're working on with the drivers, and of course the
transit safety officers. Now, if we can get to a
point where we can reschedule the routes to do some
work and we don't need tho zeto changes, then all
of a sudden, that frees up some of our people,
the transit safety officers, to be more mobile beyond different networks.
We know the specific routes that we tend to have
(10:26):
more trouble on than others, so we're looking at those
specifically on what we can do to improve safety and
reduce that anti social behavior. So there's a lot of
work being done on this, and I really want to
try and get this tied it up and make it
make that network safer and easy to use for everybody.
(10:49):
But again, this is such a large piece of work,
but we definitely need to get in there and get
it done.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well, is it time to reintroduce a fee for travel
so that you know, unfortunately, you know, like we need
to go Well, you know, you've got to pay to
come on and if you're not behaving in a certain way, sorry,
you're banned from the network.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, well, I've mean the whole fee schedules has been
in front of my mind for quite some time now
on what we do there. Bringing fares back creates its
own issues about collecting fairs, and it creates conflict for
the drivers trying to collect those fears, and then if
they handle cash then they become targets for thieves and
(11:29):
other piece. So it's a real delicate one that one.
But the specifically the banning of people, we've got to
really rent that up. When we know we have people
who are definitely causing issues. How the second part that is, okay,
if we trespass them, then the lad on the bus, right,
how do we then police that because that's very difficult
the moment. That's where we're trying to probably think about
(11:52):
some technology. But then the drivers can go, Okay, this
person is on the bus and shouldn't be right now,
how do I notifys a security or others that they
are on the bus and then actually deal with them
without putting a course of drivers in dangerous as well,
because if they get on the radio when someone's on
the bus, then they get targets.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's a thing like isn't that a Paula That we're
literally in a situation in the Northern Territory where we're
not really looking at reintroducing fees because you've got some
in the community that then if they have to have
have to pay a fee, it could become a dangerous
or confrontational situation for the poor bus driver trying to
(12:35):
actually get payment from them. Like that's it blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Bill, Well, that's one of the issues that the second
part about is the financial implication of being able to
collect the fees. And when we look at what we
had previously, we were paying nine hundred thousand, I believe
for the ticketing system that didn't work particularly well. Natural
revenue were getting back from them. I think it was
only one point three million. So we'll copy a lot
(13:00):
of grief for four hundred thousand dollars. And if I
can find a ticketing system that we could we could
implement that it's easy to use at a much much
cheaper cost, and of course we still retain that revenue.
Then all of a sudden it makes a lot more
sun and of course then it's it's becomes more profitable
at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Like surely when you look at the fact that every
other bus network in the world they've got, you know,
they can do this. Why are we why are we
struggling so badly with that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think part of our issue at the end of
the day, Kadi is was, Okay, we're pretty small if
you look at the states. I go to Victoria every
now and again, and they have the my key system,
but that operates across their entire network, and that's all
electronic and it's online, and the same with other states.
At the end of we're pretty we're small potatoes in comparison,
(13:52):
and to try and find something that is I suppose
it becomes a little bit bespoke because we're because the
end of the day, we're so small. If you look
at our network, we've been size for a large council,
say in Victoria, but that's all covered by their entire
government public transper network. So trying to find something that
(14:14):
sort of just fits for just us, there's been a
bit of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Hey, Bill, before I let you go, just a really
quick one. Now. Earlier in the week, I was walking around.
I was jogging around Marara Sporting Complex and I see
three lovely ladies who literally have been walking together four
days a week for the last thirty years, and they
said to me, Katie, we've tried so hard to get
some shade trees basically, or some trees just across the
(14:44):
road from the Rugby Union field. They said there used
to be trees there. It is one of the only
areas without shade. There's kids, there's adults there every day.
Whose responsibility is a that's a damn good question.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We had trees and we don't have trees. Yeah, sure,
we've got a wonder look if I'm happy to go
away and have a little bit of a look at that.
I don't know if I'm responsible or it's local government
or somebody's.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Let's find out, Bill. Let's get some trees stack at Marra. Mate.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I like trees are great, Mate, I love them.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Let's do it all right, Bill, Yeah, we better leave
it there. Good to catch up with your Minister for Transport, Infrastructure,
Logistics and also the Treasurer. Really appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Thanks Katie. You have a great day you too.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Thank you.
Joining me live on the line is the Minister for Logistics,
Infrastructure Transport, Bill Yan. He's also the Treasurer.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good morning Bell, Good morning Katie, and burning to everybody
at the top end.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, great to have you on the show. Bill. Before
we get into all the issues in your portfolios, I
do just want to ask, obviously the Chief Minister making
the announcement yesterday that the independent inquiry into recent senior
police recruitments is going to get underway. It needs to happen,
doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, you've had a number of issues raised, of course, Kadie.
The Police Association of raise issues around possible recruitments since
twenty twenty three, so this is the opportunity to clear
the air on those recruitment issues. I really feel for
police in the last week or two there's been a
lot of I suppose mud throwin at them, and particularly
(00:51):
around the Executive of Police. So this is the opportunity
now for this review to go. I'll get underway around
that recruitment. So we've got Alan blow of course, you've
got no real connection to territory. You're a very professional man,
so he'll come in and do that review, and of
course his recommendations or whatever's in his review will of
(01:14):
course came back and be presented in Parliament. So it
gives the opportunity to deal with this issue, clear the
air on senior police and that recruitment since twenty twenty three,
So it will give our police a course, that opportunity
now to deal with this matter and to move on,
because they're doing a hell of a job at the moment,
I can tell you, Katie. I think we all know that,
(01:36):
and they need our support. And what's taken places, of
course casts some doubt in some areas. So it's the
opportunity to deal with that and it will be what
it will be at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And do you feel as though the chief that is
directed quickly enough?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Absolutely, Katie. But there's what I suppose. I've worked in
a public sector for a long time, so I probably
have a little bit more knowledge than others. But you
have to work through these things in a methodical maner.
You just can't come out and make an off the
cuff comment or decision. There's ways that things have to
be dealt with, and of course the way the police
(02:12):
destructured too is a little bit like that. The judiciary
is that they actually sit outside of government, so the
government can't come in and mess with them, and it's
done for a very very specific purpose. So to work
through that to be able to do what the chiefiness
have done in relation to the Commissioner, to call for
his or or start to work towards his termination everything else.
(02:37):
You can't just come out and do that at the
drop of a hat. There are processes you have to
go through and that we had to do and it
takes Look, it took a couple of days to do that,
and that's moving pretty quickly. So that work has been done.
And now as far as the review goes, you can't
just come out and announce review without terms of reference
without actually finding somebody to do it. So again, that
takes a little bit of time to do and it's
(02:58):
all happened pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So let's move along to your portfolios and plans to
relocate the Casuarina Bus Exchange. They've been up for discussion
well for quite some time, but back on the table
again this week, the Northern Territory News reporting that discussions
have resumed around a potential relocation for the essential public
transport infrastructure with a new Northern Suburbs site on the table.
(03:25):
Where are we at with this and why does it
need to move?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know, I'm still trying to figure out where this
one's come from. Katie. There's been no plans at all
from dly and of course the department I'm responsible for,
to move any bus exchanges and relocate them to other
suburbs in Darwin. There's an exceptional development permit up for
a transport terminal Lyana, but that's to do with the
(03:51):
Blue Taxi company in somewhere to garage these vehicles. So
someone's put two and two together and come up with
a thousand and then it's ended up on Fay Spoken.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So there's no plans. So there's actually no plans. There's
no plans to have the Casuarina bus exchange move to
that location.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Absolutely not Katie. But what we are doing because we
know there's issues around the bus interchanges we've had, we
have social issues and all sorts of other issues in
the interchange. We're still having issues on our bus network.
I've tasked the department to go away and look at
a number of measures to deal with safety and anti
social issues on the buses. So they're working through at
(04:32):
the moment, and as part of that entire review, we're
actually looking at the bus into changes as a whole
on how we can deal with the issues that we
see on those interchanges. So that's part of the larger
piece of work that we're doing around safety for public
transport in Darwin. So I'm waiting for the department to
come back with some of that stuff. I said. We're
(04:55):
reviewing what those interchanges look like and even to the
fact do we actually need the inter changes? Are we
able to better schedule the buses?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I think.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Record, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
A question people are starting to ask Bill, you know,
like they're sort of going, you know, I get it.
Maybe if if we're in Brisbane or Sydney or somewhere
like that. And I'm not saying that Darwin's you know, not,
you know, not a capital city, that's not the point
I'm making. But if it is a haven for anti
social behavior, if it is actually quite intimidating when you
(05:27):
get off there, if you've got kids that are frightened
to get off there, do you need it? I mean,
can we just actually think outside the box and reschedule things?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, that's what we're as part of this review Katie.
And so there was some work done by CDC that
the bus operator last year, so they done't a review
into a number of things we had that I've read
that as well, and plus the work the department doing.
It rolls out on the buses again, I think on
Tuesday or Wednesday night a few weeks ago to get
another first hand look about what's going on, and I
(05:58):
wasn't happy with some of the stuff that I've seen
at all. What I will say though, was particularly drives
and of course the Transitsecurity Office. They're doing an absolutely
phenomenal job dealing with the day to day issues we
see on that bus network, and I've got to take
my hat off to them. But the way they're able
to deal with matters and deal with them in such
a way that doesn't create conflict de escalates the issues
(06:22):
that we're seeing there. I said, those staff are doing
a fantastic job and without them, we'd have more issues
on the bus network. So we're looking at everything like
some of the routes. We know we have issues at
certain times on some bus routes, and we have issues
with at the end of the day, we're drunks using
the bus network and causing problems for other passengers. There's
(06:46):
a whole piece of work underway at the moment to
look at how we deal with that. Again, it's I
wish I could snap my fingers and deal with it tomorrow,
but it's going to take a little bit of work.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But so Bill, by the sounds of what you're saying,
it is apps asolutely on the table that we may
just get rid of that bus exchange altogether.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah. Look, if we can work out a way with
our scheduling and with the roots and bits and pieces,
we may not need those inner changes at all. So
I said, that piece of work is being done, and
if we can do that, we'll certainly move down that way.
And we've had some changes to CDC have moved their
base of operations, so that actually now works in our favor.
(07:30):
So we're working closely with the bus operator CDC to
look at how we may do all this are going
to provide a better network and provide better outcomes for travelers.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
How quickly is that review going to be complete?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't really have a time frame at the moment.
We probably kicked this off well. The initial discussion started
quite some time ago, but the specifics in the safety
really ramped up after we've see those issues with the
drivers being at late last year. So we've got those
screens and all that work done to try and provide
that extra protection for the drivers. Now we're looking at
(08:08):
the next step, which is, okay, we've got that drivers
safe so they can operate the buses in the safe manner.
Now it's okay, what do we do for the passengers,
the people using their service and the people waiting to
catch those buses either at the inner changes or be
it bus stops. We've done a lot of reviews around
some bus stops to Katie, we've changed some of those.
We've actually removed a couple because we it was just
(08:30):
causing issues and we had bus stops close by. So
there's a lot happening here.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And the problem is we've still got really quite bad
anti social behavior when it comes to our buses. And
that's something that we've actually received quite a bit of
feedback about this week. We said that we're going to
have you on the show yesterday, and people were messaging
through and saying, Katie, you know, we've had terrible situations
on our buses. You know, I had one person getting
(08:59):
contact with me saying that their eighty year old friend
had been catching the bus network and apparently ended up
with scabies, you know, getting on that bus and felt
really unsafe, so now walks to be able to go
to the gym. You know. I've had Jody, who's a
friend of the show who is legally blind, get in
(09:21):
contact with me quite often to tell me about horrendous
things that have happened on the bus. And unfortunately, Minister,
it does seem as though sometimes then, you know, it
is like it's the more vulnerable, like the elderly and
children and and you know, those in the community who
need to use that bus network that are feeling like
(09:41):
they actually can't because it's not safe.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No, you're you're right CTUs that I've been on the buses,
I've seen it first and and okay, I'm a bloke,
so it probably doesn't matter so much for me, but
I certainly see it for some of those elderly people
and vulnerable people who use network network. The thing that
happened to them first end. And that's I said, we're
working on there's some technology that we're working on, and
(10:05):
we're working on with the drivers, and of course the
transit safety officers. Now, if we can get to a
point where we can reschedule the routes to do some
work and we don't need tho zeto changes, then all
of a sudden, that frees up some of our people,
the transit safety officers, to be more mobile beyond different networks.
We know the specific routes that we tend to have
(10:26):
more trouble on than others, so we're looking at those
specifically on what we can do to improve safety and
reduce that anti social behavior. So there's a lot of
work being done on this, and I really want to
try and get this tied it up and make it
make that network safer and easy to use for everybody.
(10:49):
But again, this is such a large piece of work,
but we definitely need to get in there and get
it done.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well, is it time to reintroduce a fee for travel
so that you know, unfortunately, you know, like we need
to go Well, you know, you've got to pay to
come on and if you're not behaving in a certain way, sorry,
you're banned from the network.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, well, I've mean the whole fee schedules has been
in front of my mind for quite some time now
on what we do there. Bringing fares back creates its
own issues about collecting fairs, and it creates conflict for
the drivers trying to collect those fears, and then if
they handle cash then they become targets for thieves and
(11:29):
other piece. So it's a real delicate one that one.
But the specifically the banning of people, we've got to
really rent that up. When we know we have people
who are definitely causing issues. How the second part that is, okay,
if we trespass them, then the lad on the bus, right,
how do we then police that because that's very difficult
the moment. That's where we're trying to probably think about
(11:52):
some technology. But then the drivers can go, Okay, this
person is on the bus and shouldn't be right now,
how do I notifys a security or others that they
are on the bus and then actually deal with them
without putting a course of drivers in dangerous as well,
because if they get on the radio when someone's on
the bus, then they get targets.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's a thing like isn't that a Paula That we're
literally in a situation in the Northern Territory where we're
not really looking at reintroducing fees because you've got some
in the community that then if they have to have
have to pay a fee, it could become a dangerous
or confrontational situation for the poor bus driver trying to
(12:35):
actually get payment from them. Like that's it blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Bill, Well, that's one of the issues that the second
part about is the financial implication of being able to
collect the fees. And when we look at what we
had previously, we were paying nine hundred thousand, I believe
for the ticketing system that didn't work particularly well. Natural
revenue were getting back from them. I think it was
only one point three million. So we'll copy a lot
(13:00):
of grief for four hundred thousand dollars. And if I
can find a ticketing system that we could we could
implement that it's easy to use at a much much
cheaper cost, and of course we still retain that revenue.
Then all of a sudden it makes a lot more
sun and of course then it's it's becomes more profitable
at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Like surely when you look at the fact that every
other bus network in the world they've got, you know,
they can do this. Why are we why are we
struggling so badly with that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think part of our issue at the end of
the day, Kadi is was, Okay, we're pretty small if
you look at the states. I go to Victoria every
now and again, and they have the my key system,
but that operates across their entire network, and that's all
electronic and it's online, and the same with other states.
At the end of we're pretty we're small potatoes in comparison,
(13:52):
and to try and find something that is I suppose
it becomes a little bit bespoke because we're because the
end of the day, we're so small. If you look
at our network, we've been size for a large council,
say in Victoria, but that's all covered by their entire
government public transper network. So trying to find something that
(14:14):
sort of just fits for just us, there's been a
bit of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Hey, Bill, before I let you go, just a really
quick one. Now. Earlier in the week, I was walking around.
I was jogging around Marara Sporting Complex and I see
three lovely ladies who literally have been walking together four
days a week for the last thirty years, and they
said to me, Katie, we've tried so hard to get
some shade trees basically, or some trees just across the
(14:44):
road from the Rugby Union field. They said there used
to be trees there. It is one of the only
areas without shade. There's kids, there's adults there every day.
Whose responsibility is a that's a damn good question.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We had trees and we don't have trees. Yeah, sure,
we've got a wonder look if I'm happy to go
away and have a little bit of a look at that.
I don't know if I'm responsible or it's local government
or somebody's.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Let's find out, Bill. Let's get some trees stack at Marra. Mate.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I like trees are great, Mate, I love them.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Let's do it all right, Bill, Yeah, we better leave
it there. Good to catch up with your Minister for Transport, Infrastructure,
Logistics and also the Treasurer. Really appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Thanks Katie. You have a great day you too.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Thank you.
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