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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And no doubt it's probably even colder right now in
Central Australia. And we might head straight across to him
now because joining me live on the line is the
Deputy Opposition leader, Duran Young.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning to you all right, Good morning Katie, and
good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Duran.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How cold is it in Alice Springs? Were you coming
to us from this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ah? It is freezing. I think it got down to
about six or seven degrees last night, and as you know,
I'm a runner. I got up early this morning to
go for a run and I didn't think much of it.
I just had a shirt and shorts on and I
think my hands really froze off. I'm the run this morning.
I was straight back into my room into the hot
shower to warm up and defrost.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But to get yourself a jumper, mate, I do have one,
but I thought I wouldn't meet it running and then
I got halfway film a bit quick. Yeah, yeah, Now
it sounds like it was nice and cool as it
is in Catherine. Apparently hearing from our friends in Catherine now,
durand there's plenty to discuss this morning. What's happening in
(01:02):
Alice Springs at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
What are you up to? Why are you there?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, look, Katie, as we know, it's that time of
year again where the show's circuit is back. So I'm
down here for the Alice Springs show, which is on tomorrow,
but I'm also down here listening and talking to community
members on the ground just to hear from them directly.
And some of the things I'm hearing is quite concerning.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
They're definitely not feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Safer under this new government, and they felt like they've
been a little bit forgotten by the new government. I mean,
someone told me yesterday that the Chief Minister, Leasanokiara hasn't
been to.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Alice Springs since February this year, which I actually I
couldn't believe. I don't think I've ever heard of a
Chief Minister who hasn't been to Alice Springs in that
time period so long, and hasn't visited Alice Springs.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, we'll certainly try and find out. I know that
i'd spoken to her one day from Alice Springs, but
I cannot actually recall how long ago that was, so
we'll certainly try and find out. Durrah, what are people
saying to you in Alice Springs at the moment. I
mean we are due to catch up after ten o'clock
this morning, even to speak to some of the women
in Alice Springs following on from some indecent assaults that
(02:18):
had happened along.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
The Todd River.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know, you and I are just talking about running
in Alice Springs. Well it seems as though it's not
something that women in Alice Springs are able to do
without feeling quite concerned for their own safety.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, well that's correct, and that's what I'm hearing on
the ground here to Katie and Alice Springs. And we know,
I think it was last week that a group of
women got together to take back the track, which was
a walk or a run in our springs, and we
know that a couple of incidents had occurred around that
which was completely unacceptable. But a lot of people in
(02:56):
our Springs are raising their concerns with me around not
feeling safe, and the data backs that up to Katie, like,
we've seen a twenty one point two percent increase in
sexual offenses in our Springs alone, but just generally across
the Northern Territory was seen assaults up by close to
(03:20):
twelve percent, property damage up by thirteen percent. We've seen
total offenses against the person up by six percent. And
this is something that the Chief Minister put her entire
political career on, was fixing crime. Yet direct we hearing
from Territorians is that people aren't feeling safer under her leadership.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I know we will definitely have people contact us to say,
you know, the COLP government's been in for eight months,
nine months, whatever it is. The Labor Party was in
for eight years and ignored Territorians on this issue. I mean,
what do you say to the people listening this morning
who are screaming at their radios saying that as you speak.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah. Look, I think the difference between us and the
c LP government is we never misled people on the
issue of crime. We know this is.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Gas litness on the issue of crime.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well though we did it. We never came in because
the CLP government came in saying they were going to
fix crime. But you no, no, but it's not. We
never come in and misled people. We know that it's
a complicated issue, we know that it's going to take
(04:34):
time to fix. We never came in and said we're
going to fix crime in one hundred days.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You pretended there wasn't an issue on it. You pretended
that it wasn't a problem.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Not true, because when there were issues like in Alice Springs,
I remember directly Evil Lawler flying down to Alice Springs
to talk to residents. But what we're seeing now is
she hasn't been seen down here.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, look, that may well be the case.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But I've got to say, in the like, in the
ten years that I've been doing this show. Over the years,
I had, you know, stand up arguments with Michael Gunner
on the issue of crime. I had stand up arguments
with Nicole Manison, with Natasha Files and with Evil Lawler.
So I think it's a bit rich for the cl
(05:21):
like for the ALP sorry to now be having a
crack at the CELP saying how have you not fixed
it in ten months when you guys weren't listening?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Is how Territorians felt.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, but there's a difference, Katie. Their whole election platform
was they would fix crime within one hundred days. Our
role as opposition is to hold Leafinokia and the CLP
government to account because at the end of the day,
that is what they said, That is what their election
platform was on. That is what they came in to
governor on and they have failed territories to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So right now, what do you reckon they could be
doing different Aunt? Yeah, look, I agree that is your job.
That's absolutely your job. In opposition, what do you reckon
they should be doing differently right now to try and
deal with the issue not only for our springs but
right across the board.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Firstly, I think the Chief Minister needs to come to
our springs and listen to the residents down here, like
that's been the biggest concern by residents in our springs
that she hasn't been down here from February apparently what
I've been told by residents down here. I'm sure you'll
ask that question with the Chief Minister. But you know,
I've always stated that we also, you know, we've seen
(06:34):
pieces of legislation being passed through through the Parliament. We've
seen many stakeholders and experts come out with their concerns
around those bits of legislation and the impact that it
will have on our justice system, but also around community safety.
I have not seen any investment into communities to preventative
(06:56):
measures so ensuring that people don't get in touch with
the justice system in the first place, like that is
what is needed. We also need to balance this out
and I haven't seen the balance from this Colp government
at all to look at preventive measures to ensure that
we don't have victims of crime in the Northern Territory.
(07:17):
That is what is needed.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, we want to sort this issue out. We've got
to get it sorted when it comes to crime.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Hey, Duran, I want to ask you though. On Monday,
the Chief Minister announced the purchase of the Silkwood property.
It's a thirty thousand hectare parcel of land, so it
was seven point five million dollars to ink the deal,
which is going to see Litchfield National Park expanded by
twenty percent and is the largest addition to the National
(07:43):
Park in well twenty five years. What do you make
of the announcement. Do you think it's a positive move?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Ah? Yeah, Look, this is right in the heart of
my electorate of Daily. I think any purchase of land
and turning it into a park or a park under
the Northern Territory government is a bonus. You know, I
absolutely love visiting Litchfield National Park, but I know many
tourists many Territorians. It's easy to access Litchfield National Park.
(08:16):
It's about an hour and a half to two hour
drive down the track to get there and see some
of the most stunning water holes and waterfalls we have
in the country, I believe. But well, I am very concerned.
I know the asking price or the offer originally was
at five million dollars, but paid more than paid more
(08:36):
than fifty percent more than the asking price. So I
do think those questions need to be asked. This is
a government that's claimed to be physical.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I thought it started at fifteen point five.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, I've been told that it was at five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'll try and find out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'll find that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah. Also, I'm sure someone will tell us to run.
We've got like assistant producers mate that listen to the show.
They always let us know what's going on and how
much things go.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
So we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Ye, five million dollars advertised, So.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll definitely try and find out in terms of you know,
what could happen out there though, at Litchfield and in
this new area, like do you reckon? We need to
you know, to have some bike tracks for we're driving.
What are you in an ideal world, what do you
think would draw to USTs to that area.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Of the park.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, look, I think I know some of the area
that they're purchased, there's already people that that go mountain
bike riding through that area, So I think looking at
some of those those tracks to really attract a different
cohort of people is always a positive in that area
where they have purchased that. There's obviously I think there's
(09:52):
already four will drive tracks that are in there, so
I think that's, you know, any any way to attract
different cohort of people, there's always a positive into our
national parks, but there is you know, I know too well,
probably need a strategy around look at around gamber grass.
I know there's a lot of gamber grass within.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That area, and how we restrict.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That from extending out into Lichfield National Park. I mean,
I drive that road pretty regularly, and I've seen firsthand
over the years since I first moved to the territory
over twelve thirteen years ago, the damage that gamber grass
is doing to the natural environment down there. It's just
slowly dying off. So I think a lot of investment
(10:36):
into that would be great to see so we can
enjoy the beauty and the natural beauty of the park
as well well.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Duran Young. Always good to catch up with you mate.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I hope you can warm up a little bit in
Alice Springs and we'll talk to you again. So thank you,
thanks mate.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So yeah,
And no doubt it's probably even colder right now in
Central Australia. And we might head straight across to him
now because joining me live on the line is the
Deputy Opposition leader, Duran Young.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning to you all right, Good morning Katie, and
good morning to your listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Duran.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How cold is it in Alice Springs? Were you coming
to us from this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Ah? It is freezing. I think it got down to
about six or seven degrees last night, and as you know,
I'm a runner. I got up early this morning to
go for a run and I didn't think much of it.
I just had a shirt and shorts on and I
think my hands really froze off. I'm the run this morning.
I was straight back into my room into the hot
shower to warm up and defrost.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But to get yourself a jumper, mate, I do have one,
but I thought I wouldn't meet it running and then
I got halfway film a bit quick. Yeah, yeah, Now
it sounds like it was nice and cool as it
is in Catherine. Apparently hearing from our friends in Catherine now,
durand there's plenty to discuss this morning. What's happening in
(01:02):
Alice Springs at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
What are you up to? Why are you there?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, look, Katie, as we know, it's that time of
year again where the show's circuit is back. So I'm
down here for the Alice Springs show, which is on tomorrow,
but I'm also down here listening and talking to community
members on the ground just to hear from them directly.
And some of the things I'm hearing is quite concerning.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
They're definitely not feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Safer under this new government, and they felt like they've
been a little bit forgotten by the new government. I mean,
someone told me yesterday that the Chief Minister, Leasanokiara hasn't
been to.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Alice Springs since February this year, which I actually I
couldn't believe. I don't think I've ever heard of a
Chief Minister who hasn't been to Alice Springs in that
time period so long, and hasn't visited Alice Springs.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, we'll certainly try and find out. I know that
i'd spoken to her one day from Alice Springs, but
I cannot actually recall how long ago that was, so
we'll certainly try and find out. Durrah, what are people
saying to you in Alice Springs at the moment. I
mean we are due to catch up after ten o'clock
this morning, even to speak to some of the women
in Alice Springs following on from some indecent assaults that
(02:18):
had happened along.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
The Todd River.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know, you and I are just talking about running
in Alice Springs. Well it seems as though it's not
something that women in Alice Springs are able to do
without feeling quite concerned for their own safety.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, well that's correct, and that's what I'm hearing on
the ground here to Katie and Alice Springs. And we know,
I think it was last week that a group of
women got together to take back the track, which was
a walk or a run in our springs, and we
know that a couple of incidents had occurred around that
which was completely unacceptable. But a lot of people in
(02:56):
our Springs are raising their concerns with me around not
feeling safe, and the data backs that up to Katie, like,
we've seen a twenty one point two percent increase in
sexual offenses in our Springs alone, but just generally across
the Northern Territory was seen assaults up by close to
(03:20):
twelve percent, property damage up by thirteen percent. We've seen
total offenses against the person up by six percent. And
this is something that the Chief Minister put her entire
political career on, was fixing crime. Yet direct we hearing
from Territorians is that people aren't feeling safer under her leadership.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I know we will definitely have people contact us to say,
you know, the COLP government's been in for eight months,
nine months, whatever it is. The Labor Party was in
for eight years and ignored Territorians on this issue. I mean,
what do you say to the people listening this morning
who are screaming at their radios saying that as you speak.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah. Look, I think the difference between us and the
c LP government is we never misled people on the
issue of crime. We know this is.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Gas litness on the issue of crime.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well though we did it. We never came in because
the CLP government came in saying they were going to
fix crime. But you no, no, but it's not. We
never come in and misled people. We know that it's
a complicated issue, we know that it's going to take
(04:34):
time to fix. We never came in and said we're
going to fix crime in one hundred days.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You pretended there wasn't an issue on it. You pretended
that it wasn't a problem.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Not true, because when there were issues like in Alice Springs,
I remember directly Evil Lawler flying down to Alice Springs
to talk to residents. But what we're seeing now is
she hasn't been seen down here.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, look, that may well be the case.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
But I've got to say, in the like, in the
ten years that I've been doing this show. Over the years,
I had, you know, stand up arguments with Michael Gunner
on the issue of crime. I had stand up arguments
with Nicole Manison, with Natasha Files and with Evil Lawler.
So I think it's a bit rich for the cl
(05:21):
like for the ALP sorry to now be having a
crack at the CELP saying how have you not fixed
it in ten months when you guys weren't listening?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Is how Territorians felt.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, but there's a difference, Katie. Their whole election platform
was they would fix crime within one hundred days. Our
role as opposition is to hold Leafinokia and the CLP
government to account because at the end of the day,
that is what they said, That is what their election
platform was on. That is what they came in to
governor on and they have failed territories to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
So right now, what do you reckon they could be
doing different Aunt? Yeah, look, I agree that is your job.
That's absolutely your job. In opposition, what do you reckon
they should be doing differently right now to try and
deal with the issue not only for our springs but
right across the board.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Firstly, I think the Chief Minister needs to come to
our springs and listen to the residents down here, like
that's been the biggest concern by residents in our springs
that she hasn't been down here from February apparently what
I've been told by residents down here. I'm sure you'll
ask that question with the Chief Minister. But you know,
I've always stated that we also, you know, we've seen
(06:34):
pieces of legislation being passed through through the Parliament. We've
seen many stakeholders and experts come out with their concerns
around those bits of legislation and the impact that it
will have on our justice system, but also around community safety.
I have not seen any investment into communities to preventative
(06:56):
measures so ensuring that people don't get in touch with
the justice system in the first place, like that is
what is needed. We also need to balance this out
and I haven't seen the balance from this Colp government
at all to look at preventive measures to ensure that
we don't have victims of crime in the Northern Territory.
(07:17):
That is what is needed.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, we want to sort this issue out. We've got
to get it sorted when it comes to crime.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Hey, Duran, I want to ask you though. On Monday,
the Chief Minister announced the purchase of the Silkwood property.
It's a thirty thousand hectare parcel of land, so it
was seven point five million dollars to ink the deal,
which is going to see Litchfield National Park expanded by
twenty percent and is the largest addition to the National
(07:43):
Park in well twenty five years. What do you make
of the announcement. Do you think it's a positive move?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Ah? Yeah, Look, this is right in the heart of
my electorate of Daily. I think any purchase of land
and turning it into a park or a park under
the Northern Territory government is a bonus. You know, I
absolutely love visiting Litchfield National Park, but I know many
tourists many Territorians. It's easy to access Litchfield National Park.
(08:16):
It's about an hour and a half to two hour
drive down the track to get there and see some
of the most stunning water holes and waterfalls we have
in the country, I believe. But well, I am very concerned.
I know the asking price or the offer originally was
at five million dollars, but paid more than paid more
(08:36):
than fifty percent more than the asking price. So I
do think those questions need to be asked. This is
a government that's claimed to be physical.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I thought it started at fifteen point five.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, I've been told that it was at five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'll try and find out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I'll find that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah. Also, I'm sure someone will tell us to run.
We've got like assistant producers mate that listen to the show.
They always let us know what's going on and how
much things go.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
So we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Ye, five million dollars advertised, So.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll definitely try and find out in terms of you know,
what could happen out there though, at Litchfield and in
this new area, like do you reckon? We need to
you know, to have some bike tracks for we're driving.
What are you in an ideal world, what do you
think would draw to USTs to that area.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Of the park.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, look, I think I know some of the area
that they're purchased, there's already people that that go mountain
bike riding through that area, So I think looking at
some of those those tracks to really attract a different
cohort of people is always a positive in that area
where they have purchased that. There's obviously I think there's
(09:52):
already four will drive tracks that are in there, so
I think that's, you know, any any way to attract
different cohort of people, there's always a positive into our
national parks, but there is you know, I know too well,
probably need a strategy around look at around gamber grass.
I know there's a lot of gamber grass within.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That area, and how we restrict.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That from extending out into Lichfield National Park. I mean,
I drive that road pretty regularly, and I've seen firsthand
over the years since I first moved to the territory
over twelve thirteen years ago, the damage that gamber grass
is doing to the natural environment down there. It's just
slowly dying off. So I think a lot of investment
(10:36):
into that would be great to see so we can
enjoy the beauty and the natural beauty of the park
as well well.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Duran Young. Always good to catch up with you mate.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I hope you can warm up a little bit in
Alice Springs and we'll talk to you again. So thank you,
thanks mate.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So yeah,
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