January 5, 2026 • 22 mins
In 2025 we had so many amazing people stop by Elvis Duran and the Morning Show. Here's one of our favorites!
Our new best friend EJAE stopped by on the day her new single, "In Another World" was released! She talks about the inspiration behind the song, the success of KPop Demon Hunters on Netflix, and how she felt watching Bad Bunny sing "Golden" on SNL.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The on air moments that had the whole studio talking.
This is the year's best from Elvis Duran in the
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Now, remember how mad you got it me, Danielle when
I said, I don't think that voice is real because
it's too perfect.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And so the voice, the voice of Roomy, decided to
come in and slap me left and right. Ej welcome
to our show. Look, I've been listening to music for
a thousand years, because well look I'm old. I've heard
every artist in the business. Your voice is just right on.
(00:40):
It's so perfect. Every note is so pure.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Oh, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
But let me say something aboutj She's like, well, screw that.
I want to be a songwriter more than I do
a performer. You'd rather write songs than perform.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I have stage fright, So absolutely, Jimmy Fallon, I definitely had,
like a I could tack before.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He's a good friend of ours. He's the nicest guy
on their own nice. If Jimmy Fallon can't call me down,
maybe maybe you do have some stage fright.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh but he was so nice, So I did feel
really comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So wait, so you write the songs for the movie.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
How do you become like the girl that's singing the
songs and now like front and center, like you could
you have said, you.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Know, I'm not singing that, I'll just write it.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was very close to that lie. I'm not gonna lie,
but you know, I'm just I love a character. I
love you know, Maggie Chris. And when they asked me,
I was. I was honored. To be honest, that's an honor.
But I was kind of very insecure with my voice
because I've been kind of told during my k pop
training days that my voice is too like old sounding.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What oh stop it. By the way, a little unknown
fact about EJ she is seventy eight years old.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Skin carry out, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Why is that Korean skincare? It's beyond it leaps and
bounds beyond other skincare. Why why?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
If you put a k on it Korean case food
for pasta hunters, you know what I mean for pasta?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
To go to Italy for skincare, I go to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The cooking shows, the Korean cooking shows, like there's that
refrigerator one where.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They bring the refrash.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, the skit Yeah, So they go to a celebrities
house in Korea and they get a refrigerator that's in
their house, and they go through the refrigerator and they
it's what's in their fridge. Yes, it's so good, and
everyone's skin on this show is perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So you met Nate, our producer. If you went through
his refrigerator, you'd find a head from a woman he
killed three weeks ago. I'm so sorry to tell you that.
So did you know did you have a feeling did
you have a feeling that K Pop Demon Hunters would
be as massive as it is?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Definitely not. It was very I mean we I love
the film and I've always thought the storyline was just incredible.
When I first received the you know that's the just
like the offer, and when I heard the story, I
was like, Wow, this has potential to be huge, But
it's all about the execution. When we saw it at
the premiere, I was like, Wow, this is good, but
(03:17):
to this level, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, it's insane, it's interesting how and it's a movement.
I'll just say it's a movement because hear from our perspective,
we'll play we're playing Golden right, and we'll have a
man a father call him and say, my daughter and
I actually bond over this film, and the only thing
I hate about the film is she's forced me to
(03:41):
watch it fifty thousand. Yeah, we love that, of course
you do.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I just so I know.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
You said that you get nervous and you have stage right,
which I totally understand. Do these kind of things make
you nervous? Like right now?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Okay? I love interviews because I like feel like talking
to people. I love socializing and talking to people, so
not as much to not really when you're singing a
really hard song like Golden, Yeah, that definitely makes me get.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
I think you've got the perfect career trajectory, Like if I.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Could pick it, she said before you came in, she said,
I want that career.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
That's what I would want. Like famous in your thirties
so you've had a normal upbringing. Oh you understand like
what you have and buy you your cartoon so you
don't have to worry. I love that, you know, ever
being seventy eight or whatever it is and you get
to sing and write music.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I mean that would be the dream dream job.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Really, I mean, honestly, before the K pop even Hunter
is like thing k pop like I was a K
pop trainee and I you know, I got dropped, but
I found out while a songwriting that that's my personal
like my personality fits as a songwriter. And then I
might I was like to my co writere, I was like,
you know, if I ever wrote a debut as a
as a singer, I want to be an animated character.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And yeah, whoever dropped, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They might have been fired today.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It happens for it, like what you said, Like in
my twenties, I got normal, like amazing like twenties, and
then my thirties, my frontal lope is like fully developed
like I have.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
You know, yeah, you can appreciate it and you're not gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Lose scientifically true, you know, yes, like was my mare.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
To the music?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Did you write? Did you write sodopop?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I wrote half of the songs I wrote Golden, how
It's done, the mantra and your idol and also the
parts of what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
As wow, Okay, I have to go back for a second.
You're a K pop training yes, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Anxiety essentially for ten years, for a very long time,
since I was eleven, I got casted, and then you'd
go through this rigorous training system to become a k
pop idol. And so that was like eleven till twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
What woah?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
What are they playing through? Like what's the camp like?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh? It's like essentially like, uh, you learn Korean well,
O cry sorry well for me I to get better
at Korean and then dancing, singing, jazz, dancing, rapping, Chinese, Japanese.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Am I too old to do this? Am I too
old to be a pop training?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No one's ever too old.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You need to free your mind. By the way, if
you're wondering what's going on, ej is here, of course,
the voice and writer of Golden and I'm gonna play
a song from you though wait wait you you are you?
You know what I'm saying. But you have your own
album coming.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Out single right now?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes? Well so that's it. Well maybe maybe two songs, maybe.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Album, yes, but like yeah, essentially.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'm play By the way, we are also live on
Z one hundred's Instagram at Z one hundred, New York.
Who gave you authority to do that? You gotta pay
her some residuals, so e j Uh. As far as
writing music, goes. I mean, we have many friends in
the music business who are writers, not to be shall
(07:00):
but here I go. I mean they walk out to
that mailbox every day and the checks just arrive. Man,
writing songs, it's it's a business. It's a great business.
And people a lot of people think that the performance
end is where is where the payoff is, and it
is in many ways. But writing these songs, oh my gosh,
(07:20):
it's definitely. Is it true?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You don't have a record deal?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, I don't I have one? Or I do have
an independent record Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yes, do you want a major label or do you
like I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Let me be your manager. I need cash. I need cash.
So you live out in You're in New York. You're
in New Yorker, Yes I am, but but in Brooklyn, right,
and so you know, I'm I'm a Manhattan guy. Through
and through. I'm like, Oh, where do you live? Manhattan? No, Brooklyn?
Well do you ever come into our little island coled Manhattan? Yeah,
(07:59):
just village exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
That's what that you quoting me?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, that's literally very much true. And then looked at
me like, oh where do you live? I said, downtown. Ah,
then I was accepted by you.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Does your skin melt a little coming into midtown?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
What a life? I mean, I'm assuming we're just met.
I'm assuming that you have a great life going.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I mean definitely busy. I definitely need some sleep. What
busy with press and writing, you know and press about
being the songwriter, but also actually writing for K pop
and pop and then my artist project too.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So I mean, how does your writing process works? I mean,
out of all the songwriters we've met, I mean the
sea is and the name them, they'll they'll bring in
their voice notes or they'll bring it. They all have
a different process of how they write songs. How do
you write songs?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Well, first, I think what kind of differentiates me with
other writers? I like zoom sessions. I'm a very much
at home.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I like to vocal.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Produce and record myself. So I have my system and
my vocal chains that I love so much that he
made for me. Yes, my fiance he's also does audio engineering.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I didn't know we could refer to he.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But he essential. So basically like what I have my
you know, able to open and they would send me
a track and I would just lay down a bunch
of melodies, and with that melody, I kind of have
concepts already, or you know, or the melody inspires a concept.
So for me two important things. Concept has to be
really strong and really good melodies.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
So do you first, I know, I know you just
said the concept of the melody, But do you write
the song and then pick an artist or do you
ever write a song specifically for an artist because you
think that voice would be perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Definitely usually out of for like efficiency's sake, Like we
do keep like an artist in mind, but it goes
somewhere else and it's totally fine. But like, yeah, that's
usually the case. Yeah, for an artist.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, I'm in awe of what you do. I mean,
to be able to write a song. I mean, I
can't even draw a sick figure. I have no art
at all in my lind I mean, this is an
artist right here. Gandhi is an artist, and Danielle you
would easily be a superstar in a Broadway show. And
I'm just having that thing that you were born with,
(10:23):
that that God or the universe gave you or bestowed
upon you. It's just a magical thing. I mean, do
you actually sit down with yourself and go, Okay, I'm
very grateful for what's happening here. I mean, what's that?
What's that like? Because anyone listening right now, no matter
what they're doing in life, they should have those same
(10:44):
conversations with themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah. I think one thing for sure that I that
I wish, I mean I wish, like I think would
helped me before this all happened. That helped. What I heard,
like interviews with writers is that imposter syndrome was really normal.
So I am feeling I'm grateful, but imposter syndrome just
never goes away. I'm always like, this is cool, but like,
(11:07):
am I really good? I don't know, Like sometimes I
question it still can I keep going? Like can I
write another really good song? Like that's always in my
head so like, but I think that's a good thing
because it does like push me to like keep getting better.
I'm still wanting to get better. I still have a
lot to work on.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I think I think those conversations with yourself can be healthy.
It some I think it is not to the point
where it just drags you down.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Are you fully prepared for Halloween and everybody being roomy?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I am so excited are you don't want to out
like we have a bet with the other girls, like
with Audrey and Ray and we're just like I wonder
who's which character is gonna be the most popular? Okay,
because like I was like maybe Bob, because like it's
so easy. Now it's what's on the line with this bet?
Food always food?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Way?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Are those your real eyes?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
What do you mean, Gore?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I can't ask that. Are those contents?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Those are my contacts?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I always my gosh, the real eyes.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's a Korean?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Is that a Korean thing?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I got eye contacts?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Can I go to Korea get someone else's eyes? I'm
gonna go to Turkey, get no hair.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I'm going to Korea's good at that too?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And slitting you? Oh my god? If I but look
at this, I got this. I need Korean hair right here?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You still go to Korea?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Who do you know? Who?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Know?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Who is this person over here? This is my niece Ella,
Come here, come here, come here? Have you met? Did
you meet?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
E J?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Back in the background, so futile.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So she she skipped school today just to meet you.
I guess she's being for Halloween.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, talking to the that's so cool, Hi.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Guy, answered for her.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Sorry, do your friends at school know that you're meeting
J today? And have they said anything to you about that?
They were just surprised that I'm meeting her. Oh well,
you're so beautiful and smart and gorgeous, and I bet
they loved you before you met a J. So you
guys have going for you?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Go ahead, Oh what's your Why do you like me
so much? I was curious, what do you.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Because she's the best one.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, that's like the best answer, I mean, the best.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
To the point. Okay, go sit down and get out
of it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
She's so cute.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Gosh. When I was a kid, I was never that cute.
So I'm going to play you're saying, why are you laughing?
Don't laugh at failure.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
All I ever wanted to be was a nine year
old girl.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's all I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
You're so successful.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
The universe dashed by hope. I want to play your song,
and you're welcome. She's more than Roomy the voice of Roomy,
she's EJ. She's the voice of EJ. So talk about
this song we're about to play.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Okay, in another world is a song in another world?
And yeah, so in another world it's Basically I wrote
this song like two years ago at a song camp
and during the camp, oh, like it's like a songwriting
like week, so you like are with different producers and
writers for each for each day and like, yeah, you
(14:32):
just write songs for a purpose. For that one, it
was like for sync or for like a movie or something.
And it was in Canada and I wrote it with
my co writers Teddy and Brie. And essentially, like during
that time, my fiance and I had a really healthy break.
It was intentional. We were really good, but we wanted
(14:55):
to break so much.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Shame.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, but like it's it's always right.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, But like you know, during this time, like you know,
we were thinking about like you know, I needed some
like essentially space to reassess. And it was like if
we were to part ways, like what's a way to
cope with that? And for me, it was you know,
just knowing that maybe just like in this lifetime it
(15:26):
was just not meant for us. You know, the trauma
and the you know, baggage that we had kind of
cause the resentment. So it's not you or me that's
the issue. It is just in this life we had it.
So it's like accepting that and the whole idea of
like infinite reality is kind of took off a lot
of the weight off the pressure.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
This is a deep song. Yeah, it's play. It really
is too much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
It's like a fantasy breakup song.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
But it it's not just like relationships like romantic. It
also is like relationship with me and myself as a kid,
my dream to become a singer, like I had to
let that go, and the way of like hoping what
that was just like accepting the fact that like in
this lifetime, you know, it's just not meant for it,
but you know it's okay. I bet, I bet in
another lifetime, like I'm probably killing it. It's okayble vital.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
You are a singer, like you want it or not,
it's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
It's kind of weird that in my lifetime right now,
it's kind of like two lifetimes happening at once. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I'm not using his name even though I know his name.
What does he think of this song? Come on? What
do you think of the song?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Okay? Sam? I don't know if beautiful?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, I mean it makes me cry, like I mean
watching her like the music video definitely made me cry,
like instant.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
He doesn't cry.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I'm not much of a crier, but like, I couldn't
hold back just watching those little clips of you, like
as a kid, like on the piano.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh my god, you guys should break you should break up.
More came with a really good career.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Her songs were you know, based on our relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
My first hit song is called Psycho.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, in my perspective, I'm gonna play in another world.
I mean they broke up, temporarily break, they had a break,
a good break, and then the song came out of that.
Let's see what we think about it about this. This
is EJ in another World? Wow? Wow Wow, I mean
(17:43):
wow beautiful? Is wow a good word?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That was beautiful And I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
have to share with everyone listening to us right now,
watching an artist listen to their song on the radio
for the first time. Nothing better. Yeah, I mean, Chicken
parm is number one, But.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I think Sam was excited.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Did you cry?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, like myyes, right now, Psycho, Sam's crying.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I do have feelings sometimes and.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The text coming through everyone loves it. Oh my gosh,
look at that. Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
One more question ask Ameleon questions Top Demon Hunters two.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Mmmm, I would love that too, Okay, m hmm, I
mean probably, let's like.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Be real, yeah, three and four and five.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's the dream? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Is Golden your favorite song from the soundtrack?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yes, it's the one.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Very much so.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
When I when we wrote that, it's just like when
we wrote it it was a last song. It's just
everything just like came together so easily for that song,
and the moment the melody came out, I was like, wow,
like this is awesome. Yeah, it was just like it
just felt really good. And as a songwriter, we have
those moments and that was that. And I love that
your mic is Golden.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well is that intentional? It's great. It's like the shiniest
gold one.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Great.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I'm a little mad though.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But hey, I know you are definitely leaning towards the
songwriting thing. But your voice is just can't you do both?
Why are you gonna be so stingy like that? Can
you both? I'll try to come on.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Singing is like I love singing and I love like
recording As a recording artist, I definitely like figured that
part out, but like performing is a whole different beast.
It's a very different muscle, and I'm trying to like
work on that part.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Is there an artist that you that would make you
kind of come out of that stage fright to perform
with them because you love this person so much?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Julia michaels that happen. I think you told me your
story and I'm like, oh wait, she kind of sounds
like what I what's going.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Through exactly, and then she's she's maneuvering it. Yeah, I
love them a different aisle now.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
She's such I respect her so much and I like
learned she's in inspiration.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Didn't Bad Bunny dude the song on s n L
the other night? How cool was that?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It was so fun? Says every time was amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
If it doesn't work out with Sam Bad Bunny, I
see you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
All back off.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We just played of Course's song in another world. This
text says, what an amazing song you just played by
j It's perfect for what I'm going through right now
in my marriage with the space between us. I'm in tears.
Another text I work in elementary school, and I can
tell you roomy is winning Halloween.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Just going to pick the most expensive restaurant.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
We just oh yeah, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Thank you for Thank you for waking up early and
coming in in the middle of the night to see us.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Thank you for having it all from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You must be just so hard, just tired. So what's
the rest of your day. You're gonna go home and
go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I'm gonna go see the billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You have a billboard Times Square that's gonna be post it.
Can we see you? You have to do? That's me.
Are you gonna pull people over? Hey, that's me. I'm like,
you go get dirty, Almo, you know the dirty Give me.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Well, what a morning for you?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
You got to hear your song on the radio for
the first time, and now you're gonna go see your
billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Best morning efter, Thank you, Good for you.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Congratulations on everything that's happening and everything that is going
to happen, because that's that's going to be really exciting.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You better not screw this up saying I'm trying. You
have to be the villain.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Sam's never going to approach another radio and.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Sam it was great. Heavy You here too. The new single.
The new single is in Another World. I asked about
the album, not getting an answer, But if you're a
songwriter like you are, I'm sure you'll write yourself a
couple of little songs. Definitely, EJ. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I ever wondered what we look like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you think I look in bread?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Now, remember how mad you got it me, Danielle when
I said, I don't think that voice is real because
it's too perfect.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And so the voice, the voice of Roomy, decided to
come in and slap me left and right. Ej welcome
to our show. Look, I've been listening to music for
a thousand years, because well look I'm old. I've heard
every artist in the business. Your voice is just right on.
(00:40):
It's so perfect. Every note is so pure.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Oh, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
But let me say something aboutj She's like, well, screw that.
I want to be a songwriter more than I do
a performer. You'd rather write songs than perform.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I have stage fright, So absolutely, Jimmy Fallon, I definitely had,
like a I could tack before.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He's a good friend of ours. He's the nicest guy
on their own nice. If Jimmy Fallon can't call me down,
maybe maybe you do have some stage fright.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Oh but he was so nice, So I did feel
really comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So wait, so you write the songs for the movie.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
How do you become like the girl that's singing the
songs and now like front and center, like you could
you have said, you.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Know, I'm not singing that, I'll just write it.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was very close to that lie. I'm not gonna lie,
but you know, I'm just I love a character. I
love you know, Maggie Chris. And when they asked me,
I was. I was honored. To be honest, that's an honor.
But I was kind of very insecure with my voice
because I've been kind of told during my k pop
training days that my voice is too like old sounding.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What oh stop it. By the way, a little unknown
fact about EJ she is seventy eight years old.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Skin carry out, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Why is that Korean skincare? It's beyond it leaps and
bounds beyond other skincare. Why why?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
If you put a k on it Korean case food
for pasta hunters, you know what I mean for pasta?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
To go to Italy for skincare, I go to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The cooking shows, the Korean cooking shows, like there's that
refrigerator one where.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They bring the refrash.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, the skit Yeah, So they go to a celebrities
house in Korea and they get a refrigerator that's in
their house, and they go through the refrigerator and they
it's what's in their fridge. Yes, it's so good, and
everyone's skin on this show is perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So you met Nate, our producer. If you went through
his refrigerator, you'd find a head from a woman he
killed three weeks ago. I'm so sorry to tell you that.
So did you know did you have a feeling did
you have a feeling that K Pop Demon Hunters would
be as massive as it is?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Definitely not. It was very I mean we I love
the film and I've always thought the storyline was just incredible.
When I first received the you know that's the just
like the offer, and when I heard the story, I
was like, Wow, this has potential to be huge, But
it's all about the execution. When we saw it at
the premiere, I was like, Wow, this is good, but
(03:17):
to this level, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, it's insane, it's interesting how and it's a movement.
I'll just say it's a movement because hear from our perspective,
we'll play we're playing Golden right, and we'll have a
man a father call him and say, my daughter and
I actually bond over this film, and the only thing
I hate about the film is she's forced me to
(03:41):
watch it fifty thousand. Yeah, we love that, of course
you do.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I just so I know.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
You said that you get nervous and you have stage right,
which I totally understand. Do these kind of things make
you nervous? Like right now?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Okay? I love interviews because I like feel like talking
to people. I love socializing and talking to people, so
not as much to not really when you're singing a
really hard song like Golden, Yeah, that definitely makes me get.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
I think you've got the perfect career trajectory, Like if I.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Could pick it, she said before you came in, she said,
I want that career.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
That's what I would want. Like famous in your thirties
so you've had a normal upbringing. Oh you understand like
what you have and buy you your cartoon so you
don't have to worry. I love that, you know, ever
being seventy eight or whatever it is and you get
to sing and write music.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I mean that would be the dream dream job.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Really, I mean, honestly, before the K pop even Hunter
is like thing k pop like I was a K
pop trainee and I you know, I got dropped, but
I found out while a songwriting that that's my personal
like my personality fits as a songwriter. And then I
might I was like to my co writere, I was like,
you know, if I ever wrote a debut as a
as a singer, I want to be an animated character.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And yeah, whoever dropped, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They might have been fired today.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It happens for it, like what you said, Like in
my twenties, I got normal, like amazing like twenties, and
then my thirties, my frontal lope is like fully developed
like I have.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
You know, yeah, you can appreciate it and you're not gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Lose scientifically true, you know, yes, like was my mare.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
To the music?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Did you write? Did you write sodopop?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I wrote half of the songs I wrote Golden, how
It's done, the mantra and your idol and also the
parts of what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
As wow, Okay, I have to go back for a second.
You're a K pop training yes, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Anxiety essentially for ten years, for a very long time,
since I was eleven, I got casted, and then you'd
go through this rigorous training system to become a k
pop idol. And so that was like eleven till twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
What woah?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
What are they playing through? Like what's the camp like?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh? It's like essentially like, uh, you learn Korean well,
O cry sorry well for me I to get better
at Korean and then dancing, singing, jazz, dancing, rapping, Chinese, Japanese.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Am I too old to do this? Am I too
old to be a pop training?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No one's ever too old.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You need to free your mind. By the way, if
you're wondering what's going on, ej is here, of course,
the voice and writer of Golden and I'm gonna play
a song from you though wait wait you you are you?
You know what I'm saying. But you have your own
album coming.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Out single right now?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes? Well so that's it. Well maybe maybe two songs, maybe.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Album, yes, but like yeah, essentially.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'm play By the way, we are also live on
Z one hundred's Instagram at Z one hundred, New York.
Who gave you authority to do that? You gotta pay
her some residuals, so e j Uh. As far as
writing music, goes. I mean, we have many friends in
the music business who are writers, not to be shall
(07:00):
but here I go. I mean they walk out to
that mailbox every day and the checks just arrive. Man,
writing songs, it's it's a business. It's a great business.
And people a lot of people think that the performance
end is where is where the payoff is, and it
is in many ways. But writing these songs, oh my gosh,
(07:20):
it's definitely. Is it true?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You don't have a record deal?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, I don't I have one? Or I do have
an independent record Okay?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yes, do you want a major label or do you
like I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Let me be your manager. I need cash. I need cash.
So you live out in You're in New York. You're
in New Yorker, Yes I am, but but in Brooklyn, right,
and so you know, I'm I'm a Manhattan guy. Through
and through. I'm like, Oh, where do you live? Manhattan? No, Brooklyn?
Well do you ever come into our little island coled Manhattan? Yeah,
(07:59):
just village exactly.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
That's what that you quoting me?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, that's literally very much true. And then looked at
me like, oh where do you live? I said, downtown. Ah,
then I was accepted by you.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Does your skin melt a little coming into midtown?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
What a life? I mean, I'm assuming we're just met.
I'm assuming that you have a great life going.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I mean definitely busy. I definitely need some sleep. What
busy with press and writing, you know and press about
being the songwriter, but also actually writing for K pop
and pop and then my artist project too.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So I mean, how does your writing process works? I mean,
out of all the songwriters we've met, I mean the
sea is and the name them, they'll they'll bring in
their voice notes or they'll bring it. They all have
a different process of how they write songs. How do
you write songs?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Well, first, I think what kind of differentiates me with
other writers? I like zoom sessions. I'm a very much
at home.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I like to vocal.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Produce and record myself. So I have my system and
my vocal chains that I love so much that he
made for me. Yes, my fiance he's also does audio engineering.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I didn't know we could refer to he.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But he essential. So basically like what I have my
you know, able to open and they would send me
a track and I would just lay down a bunch
of melodies, and with that melody, I kind of have
concepts already, or you know, or the melody inspires a concept.
So for me two important things. Concept has to be
really strong and really good melodies.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
So do you first, I know, I know you just
said the concept of the melody, But do you write
the song and then pick an artist or do you
ever write a song specifically for an artist because you
think that voice would be perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Definitely usually out of for like efficiency's sake, Like we
do keep like an artist in mind, but it goes
somewhere else and it's totally fine. But like, yeah, that's
usually the case. Yeah, for an artist.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, I'm in awe of what you do. I mean,
to be able to write a song. I mean, I
can't even draw a sick figure. I have no art
at all in my lind I mean, this is an
artist right here. Gandhi is an artist, and Danielle you
would easily be a superstar in a Broadway show. And
I'm just having that thing that you were born with,
(10:23):
that that God or the universe gave you or bestowed
upon you. It's just a magical thing. I mean, do
you actually sit down with yourself and go, Okay, I'm
very grateful for what's happening here. I mean, what's that?
What's that like? Because anyone listening right now, no matter
what they're doing in life, they should have those same
(10:44):
conversations with themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah. I think one thing for sure that I that
I wish, I mean I wish, like I think would
helped me before this all happened. That helped. What I heard,
like interviews with writers is that imposter syndrome was really normal.
So I am feeling I'm grateful, but imposter syndrome just
never goes away. I'm always like, this is cool, but like,
(11:07):
am I really good? I don't know, Like sometimes I
question it still can I keep going? Like can I
write another really good song? Like that's always in my
head so like, but I think that's a good thing
because it does like push me to like keep getting better.
I'm still wanting to get better. I still have a
lot to work on.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I think I think those conversations with yourself can be healthy.
It some I think it is not to the point
where it just drags you down.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Are you fully prepared for Halloween and everybody being roomy?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I am so excited are you don't want to out
like we have a bet with the other girls, like
with Audrey and Ray and we're just like I wonder
who's which character is gonna be the most popular? Okay,
because like I was like maybe Bob, because like it's
so easy. Now it's what's on the line with this bet?
Food always food?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Way?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Are those your real eyes?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
What do you mean, Gore?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I can't ask that. Are those contents?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Those are my contacts?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I always my gosh, the real eyes.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's a Korean?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Is that a Korean thing?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I got eye contacts?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Can I go to Korea get someone else's eyes? I'm
gonna go to Turkey, get no hair.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I'm going to Korea's good at that too?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And slitting you? Oh my god? If I but look
at this, I got this. I need Korean hair right here?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You still go to Korea?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Who do you know? Who?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Know?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Who is this person over here? This is my niece Ella,
Come here, come here, come here? Have you met? Did
you meet?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
E J?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Back in the background, so futile.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So she she skipped school today just to meet you.
I guess she's being for Halloween.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, talking to the that's so cool, Hi.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Guy, answered for her.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Sorry, do your friends at school know that you're meeting
J today? And have they said anything to you about that?
They were just surprised that I'm meeting her. Oh well,
you're so beautiful and smart and gorgeous, and I bet
they loved you before you met a J. So you
guys have going for you?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Go ahead, Oh what's your Why do you like me
so much? I was curious, what do you.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Because she's the best one.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, that's like the best answer, I mean, the best.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
To the point. Okay, go sit down and get out
of it.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
She's so cute.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Gosh. When I was a kid, I was never that cute.
So I'm going to play you're saying, why are you laughing?
Don't laugh at failure.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
All I ever wanted to be was a nine year
old girl.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's all I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
You're so successful.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
The universe dashed by hope. I want to play your song,
and you're welcome. She's more than Roomy the voice of Roomy,
she's EJ. She's the voice of EJ. So talk about
this song we're about to play.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Okay, in another world is a song in another world?
And yeah, so in another world it's Basically I wrote
this song like two years ago at a song camp
and during the camp, oh, like it's like a songwriting
like week, so you like are with different producers and
writers for each for each day and like, yeah, you
(14:32):
just write songs for a purpose. For that one, it
was like for sync or for like a movie or something.
And it was in Canada and I wrote it with
my co writers Teddy and Brie. And essentially, like during
that time, my fiance and I had a really healthy break.
It was intentional. We were really good, but we wanted
(14:55):
to break so much.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Shame.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, but like it's it's always right.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, But like you know, during this time, like you know,
we were thinking about like you know, I needed some
like essentially space to reassess. And it was like if
we were to part ways, like what's a way to
cope with that? And for me, it was you know,
just knowing that maybe just like in this lifetime it
(15:26):
was just not meant for us. You know, the trauma
and the you know, baggage that we had kind of
cause the resentment. So it's not you or me that's
the issue. It is just in this life we had it.
So it's like accepting that and the whole idea of
like infinite reality is kind of took off a lot
of the weight off the pressure.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
This is a deep song. Yeah, it's play. It really
is too much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
It's like a fantasy breakup song.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
But it it's not just like relationships like romantic. It
also is like relationship with me and myself as a kid,
my dream to become a singer, like I had to
let that go, and the way of like hoping what
that was just like accepting the fact that like in
this lifetime, you know, it's just not meant for it,
but you know it's okay. I bet, I bet in
another lifetime, like I'm probably killing it. It's okayble vital.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
You are a singer, like you want it or not,
it's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
It's kind of weird that in my lifetime right now,
it's kind of like two lifetimes happening at once. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I'm not using his name even though I know his name.
What does he think of this song? Come on? What
do you think of the song?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Okay? Sam? I don't know if beautiful?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, I mean it makes me cry, like I mean
watching her like the music video definitely made me cry,
like instant.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
He doesn't cry.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
I'm not much of a crier, but like, I couldn't
hold back just watching those little clips of you, like
as a kid, like on the piano.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Oh my god, you guys should break you should break up.
More came with a really good career.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Her songs were you know, based on our relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
My first hit song is called Psycho.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, in my perspective, I'm gonna play in another world.
I mean they broke up, temporarily break, they had a break,
a good break, and then the song came out of that.
Let's see what we think about it about this. This
is EJ in another World? Wow? Wow Wow, I mean
(17:43):
wow beautiful? Is wow a good word?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
That was beautiful And I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
have to share with everyone listening to us right now,
watching an artist listen to their song on the radio
for the first time. Nothing better. Yeah, I mean, Chicken
parm is number one, But.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I think Sam was excited.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Did you cry?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, like myyes, right now, Psycho, Sam's crying.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I do have feelings sometimes and.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The text coming through everyone loves it. Oh my gosh,
look at that. Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
One more question ask Ameleon questions Top Demon Hunters two.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Mmmm, I would love that too, Okay, m hmm, I
mean probably, let's like.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Be real, yeah, three and four and five.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's the dream? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Is Golden your favorite song from the soundtrack?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yes, it's the one.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Very much so.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
When I when we wrote that, it's just like when
we wrote it it was a last song. It's just
everything just like came together so easily for that song,
and the moment the melody came out, I was like, wow,
like this is awesome. Yeah, it was just like it
just felt really good. And as a songwriter, we have
those moments and that was that. And I love that
your mic is Golden.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well is that intentional? It's great. It's like the shiniest
gold one.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Great.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I'm a little mad though.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But hey, I know you are definitely leaning towards the
songwriting thing. But your voice is just can't you do both?
Why are you gonna be so stingy like that? Can
you both? I'll try to come on.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Singing is like I love singing and I love like
recording As a recording artist, I definitely like figured that
part out, but like performing is a whole different beast.
It's a very different muscle, and I'm trying to like
work on that part.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Is there an artist that you that would make you
kind of come out of that stage fright to perform
with them because you love this person so much?
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Julia michaels that happen. I think you told me your
story and I'm like, oh wait, she kind of sounds
like what I what's going.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Through exactly, and then she's she's maneuvering it. Yeah, I
love them a different aisle now.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
She's such I respect her so much and I like
learned she's in inspiration.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Didn't Bad Bunny dude the song on s n L
the other night? How cool was that?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It was so fun? Says every time was amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
If it doesn't work out with Sam Bad Bunny, I
see you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
All back off.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We just played of Course's song in another world. This
text says, what an amazing song you just played by
j It's perfect for what I'm going through right now
in my marriage with the space between us. I'm in tears.
Another text I work in elementary school, and I can
tell you roomy is winning Halloween.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Just going to pick the most expensive restaurant.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
We just oh yeah, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Thank you for Thank you for waking up early and
coming in in the middle of the night to see us.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Thank you for having it all from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You must be just so hard, just tired. So what's
the rest of your day. You're gonna go home and
go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I'm gonna go see the billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You have a billboard Times Square that's gonna be post it.
Can we see you? You have to do? That's me.
Are you gonna pull people over? Hey, that's me. I'm like,
you go get dirty, Almo, you know the dirty Give me.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Well, what a morning for you?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
You got to hear your song on the radio for
the first time, and now you're gonna go see your
billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Best morning efter, Thank you, Good for you.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Congratulations on everything that's happening and everything that is going
to happen, because that's that's going to be really exciting.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You better not screw this up saying I'm trying. You
have to be the villain.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Sam's never going to approach another radio and.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Sam it was great. Heavy You here too. The new single.
The new single is in Another World. I asked about
the album, not getting an answer, But if you're a
songwriter like you are, I'm sure you'll write yourself a
couple of little songs. Definitely, EJ. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I ever wondered what we look like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you think I look in bread?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
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