October 24, 2025 • 22 mins
Our new best friend EJAE stopped by on the day her new single, "In Another World" was released! She talks about the inspiration behind the song, the success of KPop Demon Hunters on Netflix, and how she felt watching Bad Bunny sing "Golden" on SNL.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now remember how mad you got it me, Danielle, And
I said, I don't think that voice is real because
it's too perfect.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And so the voice, the voice of Roomy, decided to
come in and slap me left and right ej welcome
to our show. Look, I've been listening to music for
a thousand years because well look I'm old. I've heard
every artist in the business. Your voice is just right on.
(00:31):
It's so perfect. Every note is so pure.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, let me say something about She's like, well, screw that.
I want to be a songwriter more than I do
a performer. You'd rather write songs than perform.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I have stage fright, so absolutely, Jimmy Fallon, I definitely
had like a panic guitarck before.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
He's a good friend of ours. He's the nicest guy
on their own. If Jimmy Fallon can't calm me down,
maybe maybe you do have some stay stage.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh but he was so nice, so I did felt
feel really comfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So wait, so you write the songs for the movie.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
How do you become like the girl that's singing the
songs and now like front and center, like you could
you have said.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know, I'm not singing that, I'll just write it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I was very close to that. I'm not gonna lie,
but you know, I'm just I love a character. I
love you know, Maggie Chris. And when they asked me,
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I was honored to be honest, That's an honor.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But I was kind of very insecure with my voice
because I've been kind of told during my K pop
training days that my voice is too like old sounding.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What oh stop it. By the way, a little unknown
fact about EJ she is seventy eight years old.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Skin carry on, Okay? Why is that Korean skincare so good?
It's beyond it leaps and bounds beyond other skincare.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Why why?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know. If you put a k on, it's
just like me Korean k.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Food, which like for pasta hunters, you know what I
mean for pasta to.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Go to Italy Firs skincare. I go to.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
The cooking shows, the Korean cooking shows, like there's that
refrigerator one where they bring the refrager.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, this skit.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So they go to a celebrities house in Korea and
they get a refrigerator that's in their house and they
go through the refrigerator and they it's what's in their fridge.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So good. And everyone's skin on this show is perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So you met Nate, our producer. If you went through
his refrigerator, you'd find a head from a woman he
killed three weeks ago. I'm so sorry to tell you that.
So did you know did you have a feeling. Did
you have a feeling that K Pop Demon Hunters would
be as massive as it is?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Definitely not.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It was very I mean we I love the film
and I've always thought the storyline was just incredible. When
I first received the you know that's the just like
the offer, and when I heard thet where I was like, wow,
this has potential to be huge, but it's all about
the execution. When we saw it at the premiere, I
was like, wow, this is good.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But to this level. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, it's insane, it's interesting how and it's a movement.
I'll just say it's a movement because hear from our perspective,
we'll play we're playing Golden right, and we'll have a man,
a father call him and say, my daughter and I
actually bond over this film. And the only thing I
hate about the film is she's forced me to watch
(03:32):
it fifty thousand. Yeah, we love that, of course you do, seriously.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I just so I know. You said that you get
nervous and you have stage fright, which I totally understand.
Do these kind of things make you nervous?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Like right now? Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I love interviews because I feel like talking to people.
I love socializing and talking to people, so not as much,
not really when you're singing a really hard.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Song like Golden, Yeah, that definitely makes me get.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
I think you've got the perfect career trajectory, Like if I.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Could make it, she said. Before you came in, she said,
I want that career.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's what I would want.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Like famous in your thirties, so you've had a normal upbringing.
Oh you understand like what you have and buy you
your cartoon so you don't have to worry. I love that,
you know, ever being seventy eight or whatever it is
and you get to sing and write music. I mean
that would be the dream dream job really.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean, honestly, before the K Pop demon Hunter is
like thing k pop Like I was a K pop
trainee and I you know, I got dropped, but I
found out while a songwriting that that's my personal like
my personality fits as a songwriter, and then I might
I was like to my co write, I was like,
you know, if I ever wear a debut as a
as a singer, I want to be an animated character.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, whoever dropped I'm an idiot?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah they might have been fired today.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It happens very like what you said.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Like in my twenties, I got normal, like amazing like twenties,
and then my thirties, my front toal lope is like
fully developed like I have you know.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, you can appreciate it and you're not gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Scientifically true, you know, yes, like was my major.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
To the music?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Did you write did you write Soda Pop?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I wrote half of so I wrote Golden how It's done,
the mantra and your idol and also the parts of
what it sounds like as.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Wow, Okay, I have to go back for a second.
You're a K pop training yes, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Essentially for ten years, for a very long time, since
I was eleven, I got casted and then you'd go
through this rigorous training system to become a K pop idol.
And so that was like eleven till twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What woah, what are they playing through? Like what's the camp?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Like? Oh, it's like essentially, like, uh, you learn Korean?
Well not crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Sorry, Well for me, I had to get better at
Korean and then dancing, singing, jazz, dancing, rapping, Chinese, Japanese.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Am I too old to do this? Am I too
old to be a K pop training?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
No one's ever too.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You need to free your mind. By the way, if
you're wondering what's going on, ej is here, of course
the voice and writer of Golden and I'm gonna play
a song from you though wait wait you you are you?
You know what I'm saying. But you have your own
album coming out?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Single right now?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yes, well so that's it. Well maybe maybe two songs.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Maybe album, yes, but like, yeah, essentially.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm gonna play that second. By the way, we are
also live on Z one hundred's Instagram at Z one hundred,
New York. Who gave you authority to do that? You
gotta pay her some residuals, so, e j Uh. As
far as writing music goes, I mean, we have many
friends in the music business who are writers. Not to
be shallow, but here I go. I mean they walk
(06:54):
out to that mailbox every day and the checks just arrive. Man,
writing songs, it's it's a business. It's a great business.
And people a lot of people think that the performance
end is where is where the payoff is, and it
is in many ways. But writing these songs, oh my gosh,
it's definitely. Is it true?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You don't have a record deal?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I don't mean I have one? Or I do
have an independent record Okay?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, do you want a major label or do.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You need I don't think you do.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Let me be your manager. I need cash, I need cash.
So you live out in You're in New York. You're
in New Yorker, Yes I am, but but in Brooklyn, right,
and so you know I'm I'm a Manhattan guy. Through
and through I'm like, oh, where do you live? Manhattan?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, Brooklyn? Well did you ever come into our little
island called Manhattan? Yeah, just East Village exactly?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's what that you quoting me? Yes, that's literally very
much true.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then looked at me like, oh where do you live?
I said downtown? Ah? Then I was accepted by you.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Did your skin melt a little coming into Midtown?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What a life?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm assuming, I'm just mad. I'm assuming that you have
a great life going.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean, definitely busy. I definitely need some sleep. What
busy with press and writing, you know and press about
being the songwriter, but also actually writing for K pop
and pop and then my artist project too.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I mean, how does your writing process works? I mean,
of all the songwriters we've met, I mean the sea
is and the name them, they'll they'll bring in their
voice notes or they'll bring it. They all have a
different process of how they write songs. How do you
write songs?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, first, I think what kind of differentiates me with
other writers is I like zoom sessions.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'm very much at home. I like to vocal produce
and record myself. So I have my system and my
vocal chains that I love so much that he made
for me. He yes, my fiance he's also does audio engineering.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I didn't know we could refer to he.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But he essentially, so basically like what I have my
you know, able to open and they would send me
a track and I would just lay down a bunch
of melodies and with that melody, I kind of have
concepts already or you know, or the melody inspires a concept.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So for me two important things. Concept has to be
really strong and really good melodies.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
So do you first, I know, I know you just
said the concept of the melody, but do you write
the song and then pick an artist or do you
ever write a song specifically for an artist because you
think that voice would be perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Definitely usually out of for like efficiency's sake, Like we
do keep like an artist in mind, but it goes
somewhere else and it's totally fine, but like, yeah, that's
usually the case.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, for an artist.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, I'm in awe of what you do. I mean,
to be able to write a song, I mean I
I can't even draw a sick pure I have no
art at all in my lind. I mean, this is
an artist right here. Gandhi is an artist, and Danielle
you would easily be a superstar in a Broadway show.
And I'm just having that thing that you were born with,
(10:15):
that that that God or the universe gave you or
bestowed upon you. It's just a magical thing. I mean,
do you actually sit down with yourself and go, Okay,
I'm very grateful for what's happening here. I mean, what's
that what's that like, Because anyone listening right now, no
matter what they're doing in life, they should have those
same conversations with themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah. I think one thing for sure that I that
I wish, I mean I wish, like I think would
helped me before this all happened.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That helped.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
What I heard, like interviews with writers is that imposter
syndrome was really normal. So I am feeling I'm grateful,
but imposter syndrome just never goes away. I'm always like,
this is cool, but like, am I really good? I
don't know, Like the sometimes I question it still can
I keep going? Like can I write another really good song?
Like that's always in my head? So like, but I
(11:07):
think that's a good thing because it does like push
me to like keep getting better. I'm still wanting to
get better. I still have a lot to work on.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think I think those conversations with yourself can be healthy.
It some I think it is not to the point
where it just drags you down.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Are you fully prepared for Halloween and everybody being roomy?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I am so excited? Are you don't want to? Like
we have a bet with the other girls, like.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
With Audiy and Ray and We're just like I wonder
who's which character is going to be the most popular? Okay,
because like maybe Bob, because like it's so easy.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Now, what's on the line with this?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Bet? Food? Always food?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
By the way, are those your real eyes?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What do you mean gorgeous? I can't? Are those my contacts?
I always work on the it's a Korean.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Is that a Korean thing?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay? Can I eye contacts?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Can I go to Korea get someone else's eyes? I'm
gonna go to Turkey and get no hair.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm going to Korea's gonna have that too and splitting it?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh my god, if I but look at this, I
got this. I need Korean hair right here? You still
got a who?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Who? Who is this person over here?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is my niece Ella?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Come here, come here, come here? Have you met did
you meet e? J? Back in the background?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So beautiful?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So she she skipped school today just to meet you.
I guess so she's being for Halloween. Yeah, talking to
the that's so cool.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
HI answered for her.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Sorry, do your friends at school know that you're meeting
J today? And have they said anything to you about that?
And they were just surprised that I'm meeting her. Oh well,
you're so beautiful and smart and gorgeous. I bet they
loved you before you met e J. So you guys
that going for you? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh what's your Why do you like me so much?
I was just curious, what do.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You because.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
She's the best one.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, that's like the best answer, I mean, the best
one to the point.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Okay, go sit down and get out of it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
She's so cute cute.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Gosh, when I was a kid, I was never that cute.
So I'm going to play you're saying how you're laughing about?
Don't laugh at failure.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
All he ever wanted to be was a nine year
old girl.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
What you mean? You're sotful?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
The universe dashed by hope. I want to play your song,
and well you're welcome. She's more than roomy, the voice
of Rumy, she's J. She's the voice of J. So
talk about this song we're about to play.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, in another world is a song in another world?
And yeah, so in another world it's basically I wrote
this song like two years ago at a song camp
and during the camp, oh like it's like a songwriting
like week. So you like are with different producers and
writers for each for each day, and like, yeah, you
(14:24):
just write songs for a purpose. For that one, it
was like for sync or for like a movie or something.
And it was in Canada and I wrote it with
my co writers Teddy and Brie. And essentially, like.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
During that time, my fiance and I had a really
healthy break. It was intentional. We were really good, but
we wanted to break.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So much.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, but like it's always.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's always right, yeah, but like you know, during this time,
you know, we were thinking of about like you know,
I needed some like essentially space to reassess. And it
was like if we were to part ways, like what's
a way to cope with that? And for me, it
was you know, just knowing that maybe just like in
(15:15):
this lifetime it was just not meant for us. You know,
the trauma and the you know, baggage that we had
kind of caused the resentment. So it's not you or
me that's the issue. It's just in this life we had.
So it's like accepting that and the whole idea of
like infinite reality is kind of took awful lot of
the weight off the pressure.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This is a deep song yeah, it's going to play.
It really is too much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It's like a fantasy breakup song, but it it's not
just like relationships like romantic. It also is like relationship
with me and myself as a kid, my dream to
become a singer, Like I had to let that go,
and the way of like hoping what that was just
like accepting the fact that like in this lifetime, you know,
it's just not meant for it, but you know it's okay.
I bet, I bet in another lifetime, like I'm probably
killing it. It's okayble vital.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
You are a singer, like what you want it or not,
it's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's kind of weird that in my lifetime right now,
it's kind of like two lifetimes happening at once.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I'm not using his name even though I know his name.
What does he think of this? Come on? What do
you think of the song? Okay, Sam, I don't beautiful?
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, I mean it makes me cry, Like I mean
watching her, like the music video definitely made me.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Cry like instant.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
He doesn't cry.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
I'm not much of a crier, but like I couldn't
hold back just watching those little clips of you, like
as a kid, like on the piano.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You guys should break you should break up more. Yeah,
I mean, I mean a lot of came up with
a really good career.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Like her songs were, you know, based on our relationship
with My first hit.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Song is called Psycho.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Sam.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I mean, is it in my perspective, I'm gonna play.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
In another world? I mean they broke up temporarily break,
they had a break, a good break, and then the
song came out of that. Let's see what we think
about it about this, this is e J in another world?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Wow Wow, I mean wow beautiful? Is wow a good word? WOWJ?
That was beautiful And I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
have to share with everyone listening to us right now,
watching an artist listen to their song on the radio
for the first time. Nothing better. I mean, Chicken Palm
(17:53):
is number one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
But and even Sam was excited.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Did you cry?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes? I don't want some like my eyes right now?
Psycho Sam's crying.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
I do have feelings sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And the text coming through everyone loves it. Oh my gosh,
look at that. Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
One more question ask Ameleion questions to Demon Hunters.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Two, Mmmm, I.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Would love that too, Okay, m hmm, I mean probably,
let's like be real.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And five that's the dreamy Is Golden.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Your favorite song from the soundtrack?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yes, it's the one very much so. When I when
we wrote that, it's just like when we wrote it,
it was a last song.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
It's just everything just like came together so easily for
that song, and the moment the melody came out, I
was like, wow, like this is pretty awesome. Yeah, it
was just like it just felt really good. And as
a songwriter, we have those moments, and that was that.
And I love that your mic is Golden?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Was that intentional? Great? Looks like the shiniest gold one.
She is great.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I'm a little mad though, but hey, I know you
are definitely leaning, uh towards the songwriting thing, but your
voice is just can't you do both? Why are you
gonna be so stingy like that? I'll try to come on.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Singing is like I love singing and I love like
recording As a recording artist, I definitely like figured that
part out, but like performing is a whole different beast.
It's a very different muscle and I'm trying to like
work on that part.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Is there an artist that you that would make you
kind of come out of that stage fright to perform
with them because you love this person so.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Much, Julia Michaels, make that happen.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I think you told me your story and I'm like,
oh wait, she kind of sounds like what I what's going.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Through exactly, and the she's and she's maneuvering it.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, I love a different She's such I respect her
so much and I like learned she in this version.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Didn't bed Bunny Dude the song on sn L the
other night. How cool was that?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It was so fun? Always cats every time was amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
If it doesn't work up with Sam bad Bunny, I
see you.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All back off.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
We just played of Course's song in another world. This
text says, what an amazing song you just played by
j It's perfect for what I'm going through right now
in my marriage with the space between us. I'm in tears.
Another text I work in elementary school, and I can
tell you Roomy is winning Halloween.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Just got to pick the most expensive restaurant. We just
oh yeah, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Thank you, Thank you for waking up early and coming
in in the middle of the night to see us.
I appreciate it. Thank you for having me all the
way over from Brooklyn. God, you must you must be
just so hard, just tired. So what's the rest of
your day. You're gonna go home, go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm gonna go see the billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You have a billboard Times Square? Will you post it?
Can we see you? You have to do that. Are
you gonna pull people over? Hey, that's me.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm like that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
You go get dirty, Almo. You know dir.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well, what a morning for you.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
You got to hear your song on the radio for
the first time, and now you're gonna go see your
billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Best morning ever. Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Good for you. Congratulations on everything that's happening and everything
that is going to happen, because that's that's going to
be really exciting.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Better not screw this up, saying I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We know where you.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Have to be the villain.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Sam's never going to approach another radio and.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Saying it was great heavy you here too.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You think.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The new single is in Another World? I asked about
the album not getting an answer. But if you're a
songwriter like you are, I'm sure you'll write yourself a
couple of little songs. Definitely, EJ. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I ever wondered what we look like.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Do you think I look in bred?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I do.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
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in the Morning Show.
Now remember how mad you got it me, Danielle, And
I said, I don't think that voice is real because
it's too perfect.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And so the voice, the voice of Roomy, decided to
come in and slap me left and right ej welcome
to our show. Look, I've been listening to music for
a thousand years because well look I'm old. I've heard
every artist in the business. Your voice is just right on.
(00:31):
It's so perfect. Every note is so pure.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, let me say something about She's like, well, screw that.
I want to be a songwriter more than I do
a performer. You'd rather write songs than perform.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I have stage fright, so absolutely, Jimmy Fallon, I definitely
had like a panic guitarck before.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
He's a good friend of ours. He's the nicest guy
on their own. If Jimmy Fallon can't calm me down,
maybe maybe you do have some stay stage.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh but he was so nice, so I did felt
feel really comfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So wait, so you write the songs for the movie.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
How do you become like the girl that's singing the
songs and now like front and center, like you could
you have said.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know, I'm not singing that, I'll just write it.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I was very close to that. I'm not gonna lie,
but you know, I'm just I love a character. I
love you know, Maggie Chris. And when they asked me,
I was.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I was honored to be honest, That's an honor.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But I was kind of very insecure with my voice
because I've been kind of told during my K pop
training days that my voice is too like old sounding.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What oh stop it. By the way, a little unknown
fact about EJ she is seventy eight years old.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Skin carry on, Okay? Why is that Korean skincare so good?
It's beyond it leaps and bounds beyond other skincare.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Why why?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I don't know. If you put a k on, it's
just like me Korean k.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Food, which like for pasta hunters, you know what I
mean for pasta to.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Go to Italy Firs skincare. I go to.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
The cooking shows, the Korean cooking shows, like there's that
refrigerator one where they bring the refrager.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, this skit.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So they go to a celebrities house in Korea and
they get a refrigerator that's in their house and they
go through the refrigerator and they it's what's in their fridge.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So good. And everyone's skin on this show is perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So you met Nate, our producer. If you went through
his refrigerator, you'd find a head from a woman he
killed three weeks ago. I'm so sorry to tell you that.
So did you know did you have a feeling. Did
you have a feeling that K Pop Demon Hunters would
be as massive as it is?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Definitely not.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It was very I mean we I love the film
and I've always thought the storyline was just incredible. When
I first received the you know that's the just like
the offer, and when I heard thet where I was like, wow,
this has potential to be huge, but it's all about
the execution. When we saw it at the premiere, I
was like, wow, this is good.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But to this level. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, it's insane, it's interesting how and it's a movement.
I'll just say it's a movement because hear from our perspective,
we'll play we're playing Golden right, and we'll have a man,
a father call him and say, my daughter and I
actually bond over this film. And the only thing I
hate about the film is she's forced me to watch
(03:32):
it fifty thousand. Yeah, we love that, of course you do, seriously.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I just so I know. You said that you get
nervous and you have stage fright, which I totally understand.
Do these kind of things make you nervous?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Like right now? Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I love interviews because I feel like talking to people.
I love socializing and talking to people, so not as much,
not really when you're singing a really hard.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Song like Golden, Yeah, that definitely makes me get.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
I think you've got the perfect career trajectory, Like if I.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Could make it, she said. Before you came in, she said,
I want that career.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's what I would want.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Like famous in your thirties, so you've had a normal upbringing.
Oh you understand like what you have and buy you
your cartoon so you don't have to worry. I love that,
you know, ever being seventy eight or whatever it is
and you get to sing and write music. I mean
that would be the dream dream job really.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean, honestly, before the K Pop demon Hunter is
like thing k pop Like I was a K pop
trainee and I you know, I got dropped, but I
found out while a songwriting that that's my personal like
my personality fits as a songwriter, and then I might
I was like to my co write, I was like,
you know, if I ever wear a debut as a
as a singer, I want to be an animated character.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, whoever dropped I'm an idiot?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah they might have been fired today.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It happens very like what you said.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Like in my twenties, I got normal, like amazing like twenties,
and then my thirties, my front toal lope is like
fully developed like I have you know.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, you can appreciate it and you're not gonna.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Scientifically true, you know, yes, like was my major.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
To the music?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Did you write did you write Soda Pop?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I wrote half of so I wrote Golden how It's done,
the mantra and your idol and also the parts of
what it sounds like as.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Wow, Okay, I have to go back for a second.
You're a K pop training yes, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Essentially for ten years, for a very long time, since
I was eleven, I got casted and then you'd go
through this rigorous training system to become a K pop idol.
And so that was like eleven till twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What woah, what are they playing through? Like what's the camp?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Like? Oh, it's like essentially, like, uh, you learn Korean?
Well not crazy?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Sorry, Well for me, I had to get better at
Korean and then dancing, singing, jazz, dancing, rapping, Chinese, Japanese.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Am I too old to do this? Am I too
old to be a K pop training?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
No one's ever too.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You need to free your mind. By the way, if
you're wondering what's going on, ej is here, of course
the voice and writer of Golden and I'm gonna play
a song from you though wait wait you you are you?
You know what I'm saying. But you have your own
album coming out?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Single right now?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yes, well so that's it. Well maybe maybe two songs.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Maybe album, yes, but like, yeah, essentially.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm gonna play that second. By the way, we are
also live on Z one hundred's Instagram at Z one hundred,
New York. Who gave you authority to do that? You
gotta pay her some residuals, so, e j Uh. As
far as writing music goes, I mean, we have many
friends in the music business who are writers. Not to
be shallow, but here I go. I mean they walk
(06:54):
out to that mailbox every day and the checks just arrive. Man,
writing songs, it's it's a business. It's a great business.
And people a lot of people think that the performance
end is where is where the payoff is, and it
is in many ways. But writing these songs, oh my gosh,
it's definitely. Is it true?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You don't have a record deal?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I don't mean I have one? Or I do
have an independent record Okay?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, do you want a major label or do.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You need I don't think you do.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Let me be your manager. I need cash, I need cash.
So you live out in You're in New York. You're
in New Yorker, Yes I am, but but in Brooklyn, right,
and so you know I'm I'm a Manhattan guy. Through
and through I'm like, oh, where do you live? Manhattan?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, Brooklyn? Well did you ever come into our little
island called Manhattan? Yeah, just East Village exactly?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's what that you quoting me? Yes, that's literally very
much true.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then looked at me like, oh where do you live?
I said downtown? Ah? Then I was accepted by you.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Did your skin melt a little coming into Midtown?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
What a life?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm assuming, I'm just mad. I'm assuming that you have
a great life going.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I mean, definitely busy. I definitely need some sleep. What
busy with press and writing, you know and press about
being the songwriter, but also actually writing for K pop
and pop and then my artist project too.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I mean, how does your writing process works? I mean,
of all the songwriters we've met, I mean the sea
is and the name them, they'll they'll bring in their
voice notes or they'll bring it. They all have a
different process of how they write songs. How do you
write songs?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, first, I think what kind of differentiates me with
other writers is I like zoom sessions.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'm very much at home. I like to vocal produce
and record myself. So I have my system and my
vocal chains that I love so much that he made
for me. He yes, my fiance he's also does audio engineering.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I didn't know we could refer to he.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But he essentially, so basically like what I have my
you know, able to open and they would send me
a track and I would just lay down a bunch
of melodies and with that melody, I kind of have
concepts already or you know, or the melody inspires a concept.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So for me two important things. Concept has to be
really strong and really good melodies.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
So do you first, I know, I know you just
said the concept of the melody, but do you write
the song and then pick an artist or do you
ever write a song specifically for an artist because you
think that voice would be perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Definitely usually out of for like efficiency's sake, Like we
do keep like an artist in mind, but it goes
somewhere else and it's totally fine, but like, yeah, that's
usually the case.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, for an artist.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, I'm in awe of what you do. I mean,
to be able to write a song, I mean I
I can't even draw a sick pure I have no
art at all in my lind. I mean, this is
an artist right here. Gandhi is an artist, and Danielle
you would easily be a superstar in a Broadway show.
And I'm just having that thing that you were born with,
(10:15):
that that that God or the universe gave you or
bestowed upon you. It's just a magical thing. I mean,
do you actually sit down with yourself and go, Okay,
I'm very grateful for what's happening here. I mean, what's
that what's that like, Because anyone listening right now, no
matter what they're doing in life, they should have those
same conversations with themselves.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah. I think one thing for sure that I that
I wish, I mean I wish, like I think would
helped me before this all happened.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
That helped.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
What I heard, like interviews with writers is that imposter
syndrome was really normal. So I am feeling I'm grateful,
but imposter syndrome just never goes away. I'm always like,
this is cool, but like, am I really good? I
don't know, Like the sometimes I question it still can
I keep going? Like can I write another really good song?
Like that's always in my head? So like, but I
(11:07):
think that's a good thing because it does like push
me to like keep getting better. I'm still wanting to
get better. I still have a lot to work on.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think I think those conversations with yourself can be healthy.
It some I think it is not to the point
where it just drags you down.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Are you fully prepared for Halloween and everybody being roomy?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I am so excited? Are you don't want to? Like
we have a bet with the other girls, like.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
With Audiy and Ray and We're just like I wonder
who's which character is going to be the most popular? Okay,
because like maybe Bob, because like it's so easy.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Now, what's on the line with this?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Bet? Food? Always food?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
By the way, are those your real eyes?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What do you mean gorgeous? I can't? Are those my contacts?
I always work on the it's a Korean.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Is that a Korean thing?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay? Can I eye contacts?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Can I go to Korea get someone else's eyes? I'm
gonna go to Turkey and get no hair.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm going to Korea's gonna have that too and splitting it?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Oh my god, if I but look at this, I
got this. I need Korean hair right here? You still
got a who?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Who? Who is this person over here?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
This is my niece Ella?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Come here, come here, come here? Have you met did
you meet e? J? Back in the background?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So beautiful?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So she she skipped school today just to meet you.
I guess so she's being for Halloween. Yeah, talking to
the that's so cool.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
HI answered for her.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Sorry, do your friends at school know that you're meeting
J today? And have they said anything to you about that?
And they were just surprised that I'm meeting her. Oh well,
you're so beautiful and smart and gorgeous. I bet they
loved you before you met e J. So you guys
that going for you? Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh what's your Why do you like me so much?
I was just curious, what do.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You because.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
She's the best one.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, that's like the best answer, I mean, the best
one to the point.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Okay, go sit down and get out of it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
She's so cute cute.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Gosh, when I was a kid, I was never that cute.
So I'm going to play you're saying how you're laughing about?
Don't laugh at failure.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
All he ever wanted to be was a nine year
old girl.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
What you mean? You're sotful?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
The universe dashed by hope. I want to play your song,
and well you're welcome. She's more than roomy, the voice
of Rumy, she's J. She's the voice of J. So
talk about this song we're about to play.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, in another world is a song in another world?
And yeah, so in another world it's basically I wrote
this song like two years ago at a song camp
and during the camp, oh like it's like a songwriting
like week. So you like are with different producers and
writers for each for each day, and like, yeah, you
(14:24):
just write songs for a purpose. For that one, it
was like for sync or for like a movie or something.
And it was in Canada and I wrote it with
my co writers Teddy and Brie. And essentially, like.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
During that time, my fiance and I had a really
healthy break. It was intentional. We were really good, but
we wanted to break.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So much.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, but like it's always.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's always right, yeah, but like you know, during this time,
you know, we were thinking of about like you know,
I needed some like essentially space to reassess. And it
was like if we were to part ways, like what's
a way to cope with that? And for me, it
was you know, just knowing that maybe just like in
(15:15):
this lifetime it was just not meant for us. You know,
the trauma and the you know, baggage that we had
kind of caused the resentment. So it's not you or
me that's the issue. It's just in this life we had.
So it's like accepting that and the whole idea of
like infinite reality is kind of took awful lot of
the weight off the pressure.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This is a deep song yeah, it's going to play.
It really is too much for me to comprehend.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It's like a fantasy breakup song, but it it's not
just like relationships like romantic. It also is like relationship
with me and myself as a kid, my dream to
become a singer, Like I had to let that go,
and the way of like hoping what that was just
like accepting the fact that like in this lifetime, you know,
it's just not meant for it, but you know it's okay.
I bet, I bet in another lifetime, like I'm probably
killing it. It's okayble vital.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
You are a singer, like what you want it or not,
it's happening.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's kind of weird that in my lifetime right now,
it's kind of like two lifetimes happening at once.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I'm not using his name even though I know his name.
What does he think of this? Come on? What do
you think of the song? Okay, Sam, I don't beautiful?
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, I mean it makes me cry, Like I mean
watching her, like the music video definitely made me.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Cry like instant.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
He doesn't cry.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
I'm not much of a crier, but like I couldn't
hold back just watching those little clips of you, like
as a kid, like on the piano.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You guys should break you should break up more. Yeah,
I mean, I mean a lot of came up with
a really good career.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Like her songs were, you know, based on our relationship
with My first hit.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Song is called Psycho.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Sam.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I mean, is it in my perspective, I'm gonna play.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
In another world? I mean they broke up temporarily break,
they had a break, a good break, and then the
song came out of that. Let's see what we think
about it about this, this is e J in another world?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Wow Wow, I mean wow beautiful? Is wow a good word? WOWJ?
That was beautiful And I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
have to share with everyone listening to us right now,
watching an artist listen to their song on the radio
for the first time. Nothing better. I mean, Chicken Palm
(17:53):
is number one.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
But and even Sam was excited.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Did you cry?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes? I don't want some like my eyes right now?
Psycho Sam's crying.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
I do have feelings sometimes.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And the text coming through everyone loves it. Oh my gosh,
look at that. Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
One more question ask Ameleion questions to Demon Hunters.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Two, Mmmm, I.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Would love that too, Okay, m hmm, I mean probably,
let's like be real.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And five that's the dreamy Is Golden.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Your favorite song from the soundtrack?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yes, it's the one very much so. When I when
we wrote that, it's just like when we wrote it,
it was a last song.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
It's just everything just like came together so easily for
that song, and the moment the melody came out, I
was like, wow, like this is pretty awesome. Yeah, it
was just like it just felt really good. And as
a songwriter, we have those moments, and that was that.
And I love that your mic is Golden?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Was that intentional? Great? Looks like the shiniest gold one.
She is great.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I'm a little mad though, but hey, I know you
are definitely leaning, uh towards the songwriting thing, but your
voice is just can't you do both? Why are you
gonna be so stingy like that? I'll try to come on.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Singing is like I love singing and I love like
recording As a recording artist, I definitely like figured that
part out, but like performing is a whole different beast.
It's a very different muscle and I'm trying to like
work on that part.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Is there an artist that you that would make you
kind of come out of that stage fright to perform
with them because you love this person so.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Much, Julia Michaels, make that happen.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I think you told me your story and I'm like,
oh wait, she kind of sounds like what I what's going.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Through exactly, and the she's and she's maneuvering it.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, I love a different She's such I respect her
so much and I like learned she in this version.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Didn't bed Bunny Dude the song on sn L the
other night. How cool was that?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It was so fun? Always cats every time was amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
If it doesn't work up with Sam bad Bunny, I
see you.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All back off.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
We just played of Course's song in another world. This
text says, what an amazing song you just played by
j It's perfect for what I'm going through right now
in my marriage with the space between us. I'm in tears.
Another text I work in elementary school, and I can
tell you Roomy is winning Halloween.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Just got to pick the most expensive restaurant. We just
oh yeah, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Thank you, Thank you for waking up early and coming
in in the middle of the night to see us.
I appreciate it. Thank you for having me all the
way over from Brooklyn. God, you must you must be
just so hard, just tired. So what's the rest of
your day. You're gonna go home, go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm gonna go see the billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You have a billboard Times Square? Will you post it?
Can we see you? You have to do that. Are
you gonna pull people over? Hey, that's me.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'm like that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
You go get dirty, Almo. You know dir.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well, what a morning for you.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
You got to hear your song on the radio for
the first time, and now you're gonna go see your
billboard in Times Square.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Best morning ever. Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Good for you. Congratulations on everything that's happening and everything
that is going to happen, because that's that's going to
be really exciting.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Better not screw this up, saying I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
We know where you.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Have to be the villain.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Sam's never going to approach another radio and.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Saying it was great heavy you here too.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You think.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The new single is in Another World? I asked about
the album not getting an answer. But if you're a
songwriter like you are, I'm sure you'll write yourself a
couple of little songs. Definitely, EJ. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I ever wondered what we look like.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Do you think I look in bred?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I do.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
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