December 18, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sadie s Been's interview lounge host of the podcast Give
It a Chance, Casey Jose and Kevin Eviden here, Hey, guys,
this is why we love your podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's about music. A lot of the music it's about
it is like music we detest, and so whose idea was?
It reminded us from last time you were here, where
does it come from? And why are you doing this?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It was my idea, and I wanted to put some
positive into the world. So I would take these songs
that people you know, hate on paper and then give
it a chance. Right, we need some positivity, We need
to have an open mind in this world. So we're like,
let's listen to some of these songs and then give
it a chance.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I think also part of it that balances it is
that they're like hugely successful songs. Yeah, that are just
kind of also, I don't know, cheesy or beaten to
death or whatever, and so we're trying to find like
another thing in them.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And it happens like recently I put on Achy Breaky Heart,
which is like, we're not like country, guys, but we
like the roots of country, and this is like very
pop country in like early nineties, and I thought I
was gonna hate it, and we ended up being like
finding so much positive in it, and it's really it's
really fun.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, you know, such as life. You know, you can
find a painting, you can find a play or a
TV show that you just don't get show or example.
But if you like sit with it for a second
and like think it through, Like where were they coming
from when they've created this art? Okay, it has meaning,
it has life now, so this is what you're doing. Okay,
I think last time you guys are here, we use
(01:29):
a great example because it's a big hated song on
our show Barbie Girl.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
That's the best song ever.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, I don't see its subjective difference of opinions.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
That's one of my favorite songs ever.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, something we do like to do is we call
it an anti chancy, and that means like we allow
ourselves to talk a little smack about it half find
things we don't like about it. And so in that genre,
I don't know what it was. It was all these
like Eastern European guys making it and they'd put themselves
on the tracks, so instead of just having like a
beautiful singer, they'd also like.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
A little Barbie. Yeah, it's like they talk talk. Yeah,
Like they all had that one guy that was like
low voice producer that was like, I'm also going to
sing on them.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They have to justify their existence. I appreciate that totally.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
See you find the art form is truly truly at
an A plus at that point.
Speaker 8 (02:17):
I love when creators have to insert themselves into the project.
I think it's so funny.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, Mustard on a beat.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
Yeah, I actually Barbie Girl, like, I mean that era
was probably the original, like producer tag, it's like the
first people.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So this is what the podcast is all about. Again,
Casey Jose and Kevin Devine give it a chance second season. Boom,
it's now time for second season. You lasted to an
entire first series.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
We just kept going to We were like what number
should we like kind of stop out, and we just
were having so much fun making these episodes that we
were like, all right, let's let's stop here and then
do a new season and think about what kind of
songs we want. And we have some really great songs
coming up for season two. I mentioned Nikey Breaky Heart. Yeah,
We've got a lot and we liked do different genres.
So we'll do some dance or pop, we'll do some metal,
(03:03):
we'll do some country.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
This thing that's right, Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah yeah, okay, okay, two White Boys not from the Hood.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Has it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Done by the Fairies Street Cred Okay, so so uh.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Okay Toshi six nine and go okay.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So what I liked about that chorus and it's sometimes
when things are so simple, it's it's art again. And
so he has that line that's are you dumb? Stupid
or dumb? And I just think that's so effective, and
I just think, like that's catchy, Like it's so simple,
and it's like it makes me laugh, and I think
he knows what he's doing. And so that self awareness
(03:48):
or that awareness is something that I give points to.
I give that a chance totally. And he's also on
a continuum. It's punk rock.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It's like so in your face, and that's like an
evolutionary thing. Every generation needs its own iteration of that.
And this is like colorful, bracing and like I'm a
forty five year old dude from Bay Ridge and Staten Island,
as you said, I'm not necessarily supposed to like get
that right away. But I get where it comes from,
and I think, you know, if I was a kid,
i'd be like, oh my god, this is intense.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well maybe it's best you're not from there. That's also
true if you look at it from a from a
different to a different filter.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think about my dad and how like any like
any rap I would put on, whether it be like
will Smith as like tame as possible or or well Hotel,
I don't know, but he would go, oh, this is
rap crap right Like. I was always like this. So
I was like, Dad, give it a chance. And so
I'm trying to be a dad that gives it a chance.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Is your dad gonna come on the pod with us?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He will, Yeah, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll drop some beats.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Actually, let me make a song for it. We'll give
him a chance. So this is what the podcast is
all about.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's taking these songs that probably ignored my many because
they can't stand them, and talk about him. I mean, okay,
give me an example of what you would want on
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, gone, okay.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
So Creed in general makes me insane, and Creed has
had a comeback, So talk to me about higher because
that song used to make me want to do bad things.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Sure I still does. Actually did we did? Hold me Now.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's funny though, when you listen to it with like
open years, because there's this thing with arms open.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That's my song.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's it is there, it is, and we listen and
you find like a weird chord where you're like, wow,
that's like a jazzy chord in Creed. And so it's
funny when you when you when you come at it
something with open eyes and ears that you find things
you like and that song is really catching higher.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
No, no it's not. It's amazing that the like gen
z is like find refinding Creed.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I like the sound of Creed.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Wow real well I like.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Going into lyrics, right, and so do a lot to
talk about Town liquid dreams.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Okay, we've never done that.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know you want to drop a beat, Yeah, Otown
liquid dreams because I think you know what those liquid
dreams are all about.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I never put two and two together. I know that's
the thing. It's it's really.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
About that because yeah, because it's I dream about a
girl that's a mix of you know, Destiny's Child, just
a little bit Madonna's wild style with Janet Jackson's that right,
and it's and he will they are describing like the
perfect woman and by using all these contemporaries at the
time and then dreaming about the way they look.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
But that's that's kind of also. I mean, listen, we've
talked about this a lot on the show too. Something
you hear that makes you think of the better version
of the thing you're listening to that comes up a lot.
Do you remember Salt and Pepper? There was in What
a Man? They like listed all the like my man
smooth like Barry and his voice got bass by like
auto with the Denzel face anyway, and they got they
(07:02):
build their man for liquid dreams.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
For them, well, it goes back to liquid dreams.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They're they're fantasizing, these boys are fantasizing about these women
who are much much older and now they're much much older.
I mean, it's it's it's like dried up dreams at
this point, like like dusty dust dreams.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Even this is one that that boggled my mind for years.
How was Into the Night by Benny mardonez ever a
smash shit? Have you guys covered hit? Not yet? She's
just sixteen years old. Leave her alone. They said, he's
absolute in the video. He's literally with an underage girl,
a sixteen year old girl. We got it. We got it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So talking about it, you could go on and on
and you will, but we have you talked about Benny
Mardona's Into the Night Afternoon.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But we have talked about this subject before. Yeah, it's
cold outside. Yeah. So there's a lot of predators in music.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
It started with she was just seventeen, you know what
I mean. Yeah, like it was that era was always
kind of looking towards like younger, younger.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And not just that, like you know, I feel like Winger.
They had a song called seventeen that was like a
huge top twenty song.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
We all forgot about Winger until.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Now were they seventeen when they wrote it?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
No, they're like twenty eight. Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Do you guys ever do songs that don't have lyrics
like that dumb sandstorm stupid song?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Oh the rude, yes, just crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, we did a Beatles song that was like Revolution
number nine, which was like we were taking the Beatles
on and we were trying this like experimental one and
putting ourselves in that mindset.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But it's not a song that you want to just
throw on. No, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I mean it's an interesting experiment, but it's nine minutes
of tape loose or whatever. But Animal Collective we did too,
which has like sort of nonsense lyrics and spaces.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But yeah, we wanted to do one of these like
art like art forward bands that you know, to be honest,
I really like that band and they're like kind of
more under the radar.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
We don't want to just you know, like Rico Suave
and stuff. I don't want to just do hits.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
We want to do songs that, like, you know, I
might have some niche following that we want to you know,
give some light to but also tear down a little
for you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I got one for you, and I know that this
one over here Gandhi is a big fan this one.
Creed Stars are Blind by Paris Hilton. I don't know,
in the in the new season of their podcast give
it a chance. I know it's featured, yes, and I
want to do that one for a while. And the
problem was with that one for me was I also
like it. So sometimes it's like I want to just
(09:32):
put on the chopping block something that I think maybe
my taste, you know, might not be that great. So
let me just try this and see what Kevin thinks.
Since I know the world, it's like sometimes we'll hate
on that song.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And you like it, Kevin or not.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
On a positive I felt like more positive than negative
on it. There was more in it than I thought
there was going to be. Oh you like that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
It was not like a contemptible It wasn't like a
song you're like, oh I hate this.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was well except the only reason somebody might hate
it is because they found out Paris Hilton.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well that's we.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Talked a lot about that, of course, like how that
can obscure being able to hear the thing, the associations
with the person you know, it's a song totally or
even further back it's tied as.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
High or what.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Have you?
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Guys thought about doing a Christmas version of this?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
We did a Christmas song? We did? Didn't we do
a Christmas song? Here? Did we did? For me?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You're like that song that you that like it discussed
a viral video song almost thing that you Christmas shoes?
We all agree that's just the worst song ever. We
did do a Christmas song?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Do they know it's Christmas time?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
We did talk about that one, okay, because when that
came out they meant, well yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We did talk about that. We did talk about that.
And sometimes it's yucky, right, like.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
It has aged into kind of like you know White Savior.
Yeah yeah, yeah, like white rock star person that's like
we know what to do.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
With think want to save the world. It's a freaking child.
It's bland. I think I'll get all my mates. I
will save the world with us one song, right and
that what was the one that came before it? Right?
We are the world? We are the world?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And remember the one that like recently, like was it
in COVID where like all those celebrities.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
That what I will give us credit as a species
for some evolution that got like savage dimnut pop.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
They were like the something serious. But back to uh
do the Christmas? The entrant know? They don't know which
Christmas And a lot of these countries they don't really
know which. I don't think they care. They don't care.
Do they care it's Christmas? The Christmas care?
Speaker 5 (11:53):
We did like we did, like Phil Collins drums on
that song.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
We found some positives a cool turnaround.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
At one point we were like, that was cool.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So these are the conversations you have with your friends,
especially maybe after hitting an edible sitting around just like
just like Casey and Kevin, do give it a chance.
It is second season out right now? Is the whole
season out?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Or No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
We're not dropping at all. We're doing one at a time.
We're doing Yeah, maybe we'll do the stranger things. We'll
do four at a time and make you wait for
more and four now, yeah we have we were the holidays,
get so busy, we're gonna drop a few episodes, take
a small little break, and then drop some more.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
So maybe we are doing this. Are you still having
fun doing it? Obviously you're doing it? Yeah? Yeah. I
was nervous. I was like, are we gonna run out?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And I just keep finding not only songs, but just
different ways to even think about these songs. And you know,
with the Paris Hilton when we were kind of talking
about her career and the hate that someone like a
celebrity would get and you know, born into this like
rich family, and so it's fun to talk about just
the icon themselves.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And the stuff around the song sometimes is as interesting
as the song itself, either positive or negative.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You know, there's a lots.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
To do, so it's not just two guys sitting are talking.
You actually investigate you. Actually he's the I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But you know that is a compliment that I've been
given from a friend who was like, I really like that.
Your podcast isn't just like two guys just talking. It's
it's got a thesis and it's got a statement, and
you follow this threat, and of course we go on tangents.
We're gonna say, we're gonna I always when I described
it originally to Kevin of what I want to do,
you know, I call it like a trampoline where it's
like we could always land back on the trampoline, which
(13:30):
is the show, and we could jump up and talk
about other things like within the world of Limp Biscuit
and like you know, new metal, but then come back
down to the song and it's it's it's fun totally.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And this might sound cheesy, but in truth, after we
every episode, one of us text the other one is
like so fun, Like it's.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Still still guys, do you still like each other?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Love? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, actually I love doing it. Because I tell you,
podcasts are not lucrative at all. So they show up
and they show up and they put them together.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
In all of this, have you guys found a song
that you gave a chance. We're like, you know what,
that was not worth giving a chance?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Actually, for sure, it's always worth giving it the chance.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
But there's definitely ones that you're like, oh no, this
is just out and now dog, you know such a yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I got to think of which ones because it's often
that I actually leave thinking, oh that was I like that.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
That was a little bit better than I thought.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But I think you know, things like Metallica sant Anger
Oh yeah, right, which is like I'm madly in anger
with you seeing that one more time, I'm madly in
anger with you. Like love that's a Metallica. I was like,
you know that's deep?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Is that also where he says I read that's another
word on that record? I can't remember now. My lifestyle
informs my death style lyric is awesome music like that
top Headfield.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
It is with Alex I want you to say.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Ye, he would understand he's from Island. Give it a chance.
Host of the podcast Casey Jose and Kevin Devine. Thank
you for coming in and for season two.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Thank you, thank you for the opportunity, Yes, for having us.
It's awesome.
Sadie s Been's interview lounge host of the podcast Give
It a Chance, Casey Jose and Kevin Eviden here, Hey, guys,
this is why we love your podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's about music. A lot of the music it's about
it is like music we detest, and so whose idea was?
It reminded us from last time you were here, where
does it come from? And why are you doing this?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It was my idea, and I wanted to put some
positive into the world. So I would take these songs
that people you know, hate on paper and then give
it a chance. Right, we need some positivity, We need
to have an open mind in this world. So we're like,
let's listen to some of these songs and then give
it a chance.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I think also part of it that balances it is
that they're like hugely successful songs. Yeah, that are just
kind of also, I don't know, cheesy or beaten to
death or whatever, and so we're trying to find like
another thing in them.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And it happens like recently I put on Achy Breaky Heart,
which is like, we're not like country, guys, but we
like the roots of country, and this is like very
pop country in like early nineties, and I thought I
was gonna hate it, and we ended up being like
finding so much positive in it, and it's really it's
really fun.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, you know, such as life. You know, you can
find a painting, you can find a play or a
TV show that you just don't get show or example.
But if you like sit with it for a second
and like think it through, Like where were they coming
from when they've created this art? Okay, it has meaning,
it has life now, so this is what you're doing. Okay,
I think last time you guys are here, we use
(01:29):
a great example because it's a big hated song on
our show Barbie Girl.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
That's the best song ever.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, I don't see its subjective difference of opinions.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
That's one of my favorite songs ever.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Well, something we do like to do is we call
it an anti chancy, and that means like we allow
ourselves to talk a little smack about it half find
things we don't like about it. And so in that genre,
I don't know what it was. It was all these
like Eastern European guys making it and they'd put themselves
on the tracks, so instead of just having like a
beautiful singer, they'd also like.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
A little Barbie. Yeah, it's like they talk talk. Yeah,
Like they all had that one guy that was like
low voice producer that was like, I'm also going to
sing on them.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They have to justify their existence. I appreciate that totally.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
See you find the art form is truly truly at
an A plus at that point.
Speaker 8 (02:17):
I love when creators have to insert themselves into the project.
I think it's so funny.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, Mustard on a beat.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
Yeah, I actually Barbie Girl, like, I mean that era
was probably the original, like producer tag, it's like the
first people.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So this is what the podcast is all about. Again,
Casey Jose and Kevin Devine give it a chance second season. Boom,
it's now time for second season. You lasted to an
entire first series.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
We just kept going to We were like what number
should we like kind of stop out, and we just
were having so much fun making these episodes that we
were like, all right, let's let's stop here and then
do a new season and think about what kind of
songs we want. And we have some really great songs
coming up for season two. I mentioned Nikey Breaky Heart. Yeah,
We've got a lot and we liked do different genres.
So we'll do some dance or pop, we'll do some metal,
(03:03):
we'll do some country.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
This thing that's right, Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah yeah, okay, okay, two White Boys not from the Hood.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Has it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Done by the Fairies Street Cred Okay, so so uh.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Okay Toshi six nine and go okay.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So what I liked about that chorus and it's sometimes
when things are so simple, it's it's art again. And
so he has that line that's are you dumb? Stupid
or dumb? And I just think that's so effective, and
I just think, like that's catchy, Like it's so simple,
and it's like it makes me laugh, and I think
he knows what he's doing. And so that self awareness
(03:48):
or that awareness is something that I give points to.
I give that a chance totally. And he's also on
a continuum. It's punk rock.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It's like so in your face, and that's like an
evolutionary thing. Every generation needs its own iteration of that.
And this is like colorful, bracing and like I'm a
forty five year old dude from Bay Ridge and Staten Island,
as you said, I'm not necessarily supposed to like get
that right away. But I get where it comes from,
and I think, you know, if I was a kid,
i'd be like, oh my god, this is intense.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well maybe it's best you're not from there. That's also
true if you look at it from a from a
different to a different filter.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think about my dad and how like any like
any rap I would put on, whether it be like
will Smith as like tame as possible or or well Hotel,
I don't know, but he would go, oh, this is
rap crap right Like. I was always like this. So
I was like, Dad, give it a chance. And so
I'm trying to be a dad that gives it a chance.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Is your dad gonna come on the pod with us?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He will, Yeah, he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll drop some beats.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Actually, let me make a song for it. We'll give
him a chance. So this is what the podcast is
all about.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's taking these songs that probably ignored my many because
they can't stand them, and talk about him. I mean, okay,
give me an example of what you would want on
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, gone, okay.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
So Creed in general makes me insane, and Creed has
had a comeback, So talk to me about higher because
that song used to make me want to do bad things.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Sure I still does. Actually did we did? Hold me Now.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's funny though, when you listen to it with like
open years, because there's this thing with arms open.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That's my song.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's it is there, it is, and we listen and
you find like a weird chord where you're like, wow,
that's like a jazzy chord in Creed. And so it's
funny when you when you when you come at it
something with open eyes and ears that you find things
you like and that song is really catching higher.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
No, no it's not. It's amazing that the like gen
z is like find refinding Creed.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I like the sound of Creed.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Wow real well I like.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Going into lyrics, right, and so do a lot to
talk about Town liquid dreams.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Okay, we've never done that.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know you want to drop a beat, Yeah, Otown
liquid dreams because I think you know what those liquid
dreams are all about.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I never put two and two together. I know that's
the thing. It's it's really.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
About that because yeah, because it's I dream about a
girl that's a mix of you know, Destiny's Child, just
a little bit Madonna's wild style with Janet Jackson's that right,
and it's and he will they are describing like the
perfect woman and by using all these contemporaries at the
time and then dreaming about the way they look.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
But that's that's kind of also. I mean, listen, we've
talked about this a lot on the show too. Something
you hear that makes you think of the better version
of the thing you're listening to that comes up a lot.
Do you remember Salt and Pepper? There was in What
a Man? They like listed all the like my man
smooth like Barry and his voice got bass by like
auto with the Denzel face anyway, and they got they
(07:02):
build their man for liquid dreams.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
For them, well, it goes back to liquid dreams.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They're they're fantasizing, these boys are fantasizing about these women
who are much much older and now they're much much older.
I mean, it's it's it's like dried up dreams at
this point, like like dusty dust dreams.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Even this is one that that boggled my mind for years.
How was Into the Night by Benny mardonez ever a
smash shit? Have you guys covered hit? Not yet? She's
just sixteen years old. Leave her alone. They said, he's
absolute in the video. He's literally with an underage girl,
a sixteen year old girl. We got it. We got it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So talking about it, you could go on and on
and you will, but we have you talked about Benny
Mardona's Into the Night Afternoon.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
But we have talked about this subject before. Yeah, it's
cold outside. Yeah. So there's a lot of predators in music.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
It started with she was just seventeen, you know what
I mean. Yeah, like it was that era was always
kind of looking towards like younger, younger.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And not just that, like you know, I feel like Winger.
They had a song called seventeen that was like a
huge top twenty song.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
We all forgot about Winger until.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Now were they seventeen when they wrote it?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
No, they're like twenty eight. Oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Do you guys ever do songs that don't have lyrics
like that dumb sandstorm stupid song?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Oh the rude, yes, just crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, we did a Beatles song that was like Revolution
number nine, which was like we were taking the Beatles
on and we were trying this like experimental one and
putting ourselves in that mindset.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But it's not a song that you want to just
throw on. No, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I mean it's an interesting experiment, but it's nine minutes
of tape loose or whatever. But Animal Collective we did too,
which has like sort of nonsense lyrics and spaces.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
But yeah, we wanted to do one of these like
art like art forward bands that you know, to be honest,
I really like that band and they're like kind of
more under the radar.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
We don't want to just you know, like Rico Suave
and stuff. I don't want to just do hits.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
We want to do songs that, like, you know, I
might have some niche following that we want to you know,
give some light to but also tear down a little
for you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I got one for you, and I know that this
one over here Gandhi is a big fan this one.
Creed Stars are Blind by Paris Hilton. I don't know,
in the in the new season of their podcast give
it a chance. I know it's featured, yes, and I
want to do that one for a while. And the
problem was with that one for me was I also
like it. So sometimes it's like I want to just
(09:32):
put on the chopping block something that I think maybe
my taste, you know, might not be that great. So
let me just try this and see what Kevin thinks.
Since I know the world, it's like sometimes we'll hate
on that song.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And you like it, Kevin or not.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
On a positive I felt like more positive than negative
on it. There was more in it than I thought
there was going to be. Oh you like that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
It was not like a contemptible It wasn't like a
song you're like, oh I hate this.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It was well except the only reason somebody might hate
it is because they found out Paris Hilton.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well that's we.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Talked a lot about that, of course, like how that
can obscure being able to hear the thing, the associations
with the person you know, it's a song totally or
even further back it's tied as.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
High or what.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Have you?
Speaker 8 (10:18):
Guys thought about doing a Christmas version of this?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
We did a Christmas song? We did? Didn't we do
a Christmas song? Here? Did we did? For me?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You're like that song that you that like it discussed
a viral video song almost thing that you Christmas shoes?
We all agree that's just the worst song ever. We
did do a Christmas song?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Do they know it's Christmas time?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
We did talk about that one, okay, because when that
came out they meant, well yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We did talk about that. We did talk about that.
And sometimes it's yucky, right, like.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
It has aged into kind of like you know White Savior.
Yeah yeah, yeah, like white rock star person that's like
we know what to do.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
With think want to save the world. It's a freaking child.
It's bland. I think I'll get all my mates. I
will save the world with us one song, right and
that what was the one that came before it? Right?
We are the world? We are the world?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And remember the one that like recently, like was it
in COVID where like all those celebrities.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
That what I will give us credit as a species
for some evolution that got like savage dimnut pop.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
They were like the something serious. But back to uh
do the Christmas? The entrant know? They don't know which
Christmas And a lot of these countries they don't really
know which. I don't think they care. They don't care.
Do they care it's Christmas? The Christmas care?
Speaker 5 (11:53):
We did like we did, like Phil Collins drums on
that song.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
We found some positives a cool turnaround.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
At one point we were like, that was cool.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So these are the conversations you have with your friends,
especially maybe after hitting an edible sitting around just like
just like Casey and Kevin, do give it a chance.
It is second season out right now? Is the whole
season out?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Or No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
We're not dropping at all. We're doing one at a time.
We're doing Yeah, maybe we'll do the stranger things. We'll
do four at a time and make you wait for
more and four now, yeah we have we were the holidays,
get so busy, we're gonna drop a few episodes, take
a small little break, and then drop some more.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
So maybe we are doing this. Are you still having
fun doing it? Obviously you're doing it? Yeah? Yeah. I
was nervous. I was like, are we gonna run out?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And I just keep finding not only songs, but just
different ways to even think about these songs. And you know,
with the Paris Hilton when we were kind of talking
about her career and the hate that someone like a
celebrity would get and you know, born into this like
rich family, and so it's fun to talk about just
the icon themselves.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
And the stuff around the song sometimes is as interesting
as the song itself, either positive or negative.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You know, there's a lots.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
To do, so it's not just two guys sitting are talking.
You actually investigate you. Actually he's the I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But you know that is a compliment that I've been
given from a friend who was like, I really like that.
Your podcast isn't just like two guys just talking. It's
it's got a thesis and it's got a statement, and
you follow this threat, and of course we go on tangents.
We're gonna say, we're gonna I always when I described
it originally to Kevin of what I want to do,
you know, I call it like a trampoline where it's
like we could always land back on the trampoline, which
(13:30):
is the show, and we could jump up and talk
about other things like within the world of Limp Biscuit
and like you know, new metal, but then come back
down to the song and it's it's it's fun totally.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And this might sound cheesy, but in truth, after we
every episode, one of us text the other one is
like so fun, Like it's.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Still still guys, do you still like each other?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Love? Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, actually I love doing it. Because I tell you,
podcasts are not lucrative at all. So they show up
and they show up and they put them together.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
In all of this, have you guys found a song
that you gave a chance. We're like, you know what,
that was not worth giving a chance?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Actually, for sure, it's always worth giving it the chance.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
But there's definitely ones that you're like, oh no, this
is just out and now dog, you know such a yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I got to think of which ones because it's often
that I actually leave thinking, oh that was I like that.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
That was a little bit better than I thought.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But I think you know, things like Metallica sant Anger
Oh yeah, right, which is like I'm madly in anger
with you seeing that one more time, I'm madly in
anger with you. Like love that's a Metallica. I was like,
you know that's deep?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Is that also where he says I read that's another
word on that record? I can't remember now. My lifestyle
informs my death style lyric is awesome music like that
top Headfield.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
It is with Alex I want you to say.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Ye, he would understand he's from Island. Give it a chance.
Host of the podcast Casey Jose and Kevin Devine. Thank
you for coming in and for season two.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Thank you, thank you for the opportunity, Yes, for having us.
It's awesome.
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