September 18, 2025 • 22 mins
You may know him from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or Dune... but now welcome him to the Elvis Duran Podcast Network! Kyle MacLachlan joins us to discuss his brand new podcast What Are We Even Doing?, highlighting Gen-Z social icons and what drives them!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fly from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Thank you, Mercedes Benz.
Con McLaughlin's here. You need to get Mercedes ben My god,
I do Mercedes Benz needs to sponsored the podcast. Let's
work on that. Come on, man, Capitalistic Piglet's Oh, I'm ready,
I comic Cloughman. It's an it's an honor to meet you.
Thank you. I wish we hear. I was honored to
(00:21):
meet you. Thank you. I wish we had more moments
before we came in here, but it was like here,
that's good, we can have them now. We've all been
such fans of your work for so many years. Thank you.
But now we get to see you in a whole
different light. Yes, tell everyone what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm doing a podcast. It's called what are We even Doing?
We dropped today. I spend time interviewing young creatives, so
we talk about their process, their creative process.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is not a journey into a personal world. This
is about kind of.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Where they where they go for their creativity, what inspires them,
how they've used social media to tell their story. And
every story is different and it's fascinating, and we kind
of run the gamut from we've had interviews. Kya Gerber
is up today, Dylan O'Brien an actor. We've got willib
(01:11):
Bennett speak with her as well, so kind of across
the board.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And they're all interesting people, fascinating and doing wonderful things.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I'd like you and Kay Sinnat to get together and
do a little something.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay on the list we have them on ready request. Well,
being a creator as you are yourself, how enlightening is
it to have people from other levels of age genre?
What levels might those be? I mean, do they do?
(01:41):
They do? They spark it for you? These conversations talking
absolutely well. I think you know it starts being an actor.
Of course working with other actors.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Have got something out now with Ethan Hawke, and we
were talking about this last night. Just that kind of
creativity that happens in front of the camera, provided that
the environment is is a career one is really what
we live for as creative beings. And I think in
conversations with some of our young guests.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's the same.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We sit in a room like this and we talk
and out of that I just get I get high
on it really. I mean, it's just a wonderful way
to communicate and talk about what what drives them, you know,
what motivates them? Where where does the creative stuff come from?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And and how do they start? Which is my journey
is a very strange, odd one. Everyone has a different
way in so that's also part of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So Kyle's what are we even doing? As he said,
it drops today. You can start hearing these podcasts on
the iHeartRadio network and wherever you get your podcast. Of
course you're ten and you say ten, and you have
thirty four mins ago and then and more beyond that.
But what have you? Is there something that sticks out
in your mind during these first ten that makes you go, God,
(02:54):
that was a moment And I couldn't stop thinking about
that moment all day after we recorded that podcast. Yeah,
every time.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So we've done ten times, done ten interviews, and everyone
at some point in time there is a moment. And again,
this is a conversation. This is a casual conversation. I'm
not probing. I just want them to feel comfortable enough
to reveal to me what it is that there, how
they go, how they work. And I remember the one
today actually speaking with Kaya because you know, I grew
up with with her mom, you know, so we bring
(03:22):
up her mom. We talk about that, and I said
to her, did your mom cool? Did you think she
was cool when you were growing up? And she said
absolutely not, She was like a mom, and I said,
that's beautiful. And then we talked about the fact that
she was a tree in one of her first theatrical experiences,
and I shared the fact that I was also a tree.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I was a tree. Were you a tree? Any other
people who were on stage? Any bushes, shrubbery? Yeah, you've
got character. I was always get out of here. You
haven't lived until you play that tree. So she was
a tree? Yeah? Yeah. So we shared that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Just crazy stuff comes up in conversations and I enjoyed that,
and then we did it finally at the end, we
did that thing where we we did Shakespearean insults to
each other. Okay, and we pulled up because she she
loves Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Your kid.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Prompted a roguean peasant slave? Yes, uh. And we put
on these kind of funny callers. So it's it's all.
It's good fun, lighthearted humor with some conversation that hopefully
gets into some deeper places.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So you addressed as a hot dog somewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I certainly do did. Sorry, yes I had. I brought
my hot dog costume here. I've left it in the
green room.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I have a curzy of kind of a fun social
media presence. And behind me here you can see a
couple of the team memories. They didn't wear their their
hot dog costumes today.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
But away I know right, they're turning away, they're looking
cat that did you. They're giving us set to and
I'll talk about this and go down this road. Not
the hot dog, not the hot dog. Yeah, we were
dancing around just for fun.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It was literally was like really and they were like yeah,
I said, okay, I mean I'm up for anything.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What was this hot dog thing? I dressed up in
a hot talk costume?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It was it was a trend, a TikTok trend that
we followed Chapel Roone song and we just kind of
did this crazy moment dancing around and people seem to
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
If everyone wants to know how to be creative, they
should go to Kyle. You may make me want to
dress like I want condiments. Pay the question though, out
of these ten I asked you, like, is there anything
that stuck out. Of course, I talked about being a
tree thing. Is there something you're learning from them? And
because I think that's what is going to make your
(05:38):
podcast a lot different than a lot of podcasts. You're
actually curious, yeah, about what sparked them, and then then
in turn it sparks you. I'm a s yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So during a conversation, of course they're sharing because it
is a conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's how we set it up.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So I asked them questions that I'm interested in, and
then I find myself sharing kind of my my journey,
you know, my early days and what that was like.
And there's a kind of fun meeting of the minds
that happens, the differences and the similarities. I was talking
with Dylan O'Brien and I was saying, it feels like
today there's much more fluidity in terms of roles and
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performance and what you can do and how you present
yourself in terms of being an actor. And I remember
when I started, there was pretty you know, a pretty
narrow lane in terms of what you were expected to
do and kind of what you were trying to aspire
to do, and you didn't really venture off of that,
and I said, there's a freedom in that that happens
with today's actors that I find really refreshing. I kind
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of wish we'd had that when I was younger as well.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So when the director says, Okay, you know your lines,
here's what we want you to do or where we
want you to go go, does that still give you
butterflies in your stomach? Oh, it's just excitement. Yeah, Oh God,
what do I do with it? Yes? Yeah, Now it
depends on the situation, honestly.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And again I was referring back to Ethan when I
work with Ethan, because we're similar in the fact that
the script is the starting point, but it depends on
the director. To some directors, they don't want you to
experiment and kind of go off a little bit. Sterlin Harjoe,
who is the director of what we're doing right now,
was was just the opposite. He was very much about,
(07:17):
let's let's let's play in this world. Let's start with
here with the material that we have, and let's see
where she goes. And uh, that to me is it's
a little bit like the conversations I have with my guests.
This is there's no set plan I mean, I've got
a couple of questions and we just sort of let
them run and we go off in different worlds. Really
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wow. Okay, by the way, turning us on to Kyle
Maclauchlin's here, what are we even doing? Uh? This it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I like to be what are what? What are we even?
There's so many ways that you can agree even even
even do it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Uh. This is the latest show to join the Elvis
dram Podcast network, and we are just thrilled to see
where this is going. I'm thrilled with what if you
just ten we'd be happy if you keep going. We
must have more.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
How do you find the people that you want to
do your podcast with? Because I said young content creators?
Where are they coming from?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I recommendations actually from my team and they know
people and then some people that I also suggest that
Kaya was a suggestion. I knew her, and I started
off with people that I kind of knew a little bit. Kaya,
Benny of course, Benny Skinner, who's in overcompensating. Can I
mention that we're we're going back for a second season?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah no, please don't say that. Don't say that. Is
it too late. Should I hope today the jury will disregard.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, don't you didn't hear that people, No, it's
definitely true. We're going back to overcompensating too. And so
so I knew Bennie a little bit. So when I started,
you know, your butterflies and everything, and you want to
make sure. You don't know if this is going to
work really when you sit down.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Here's the idea.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We're going to sit down and have this conversation. And
I think it's going to be good, but I don't know.
But it turned out to be. I mean, I had
so much fun, so much fun, which.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Is a great show.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's a great well, thank you. It's just a great idea.
It's just a great idea.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And thank you for bringing I mean, you brought us on.
I mean you you're the man. We don't just a man.
We don't exist without you. No, I can't handle it.
You're the man. You're the man. I love this text
that just came through. I've been listening to you for
fifteen years. This is the first guess that interests me.
You know, your.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Audience is going to tell you, they're going to give
you honesty.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
See Lee Schrager was on before you. I guess that
really just comment.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Has doing this changed the way that you create content now?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Interesting question?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Uh not? Yeah, in a way. Yes, I think the
whole journey I've changed. I've changed because the whole process
of engaging social media. I've kind of let my my
crazy side out. I mean, I'm I'm very silly, and
I've been that way all my life. But there's as
I was talking earlier, I was saying, you know, there
was a period of time when that you don't want
to lead into that. You know, it's sort of the
(09:56):
young leading man. You got to be serious, you know,
brooding and all that. And now I've like my age
and what's happening. I'm like, screw it, we're going you know,
and I just jump in. So and I think that
that has that influence has come from this younger generation,
certainly from my son is seventeen, and he's a big
influence on me.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh he's keeping an eye on you. He is keeping
an eye on me.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, see on YouTube all the time, Like my sixteen
year old, that's all he does. YouTube, that's where they
get all their content.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, it is everything. It's more and more so than
any other platform. YouTube is sort of where they go.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And I find, I would say, kind of the same
way I go.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I go on Instagram more than that's me too. Do
you fall into the whole? Do you like hours later?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, But I seem like I'm like, I'm learning things,
you know what i mean. I'm like, no, this is educational.
I'm you're learning how not to be as a human
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's my favorite. Okay, what are your favorite go tos?
When you see it on Instagram, you've got to stop
and watch it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh, I'm really bad with Well, they don't how much
I learned on this. But the cat videos where the
cat videos cats are like fighting each other, like and
they're like, you know, get.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The hell out of his show. I'm into airplane fights.
I'm so into the airplane fights. Don't judge. Yeah, I can't.
I look I have to look away. I'm too. I'm
too embarrassed. I can't like.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Innocent children that curse and they don't even like their
parents start cracking up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
They don't want to last use the sea word. I'm like,
you know, God. Well, So, speaking of creativity, can you
think back on your your body of work? What was
that one that sticks out to you, that project that
you were given license to and you succeeded in being
(11:39):
your most creative. The character just came from you and
no one else, and you're so proud of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I go back to Twin Peaks, Dale Cooper creating the
character of Dale Cooper with alongside David Lynch because he
was he was obviously my first two films were what
they Dune in Blue Velvet and then Twin Peaks, of course,
and so he was a mentor, a guide, like a
big brother for me, and a lot of Dale Cooper.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I just borrowed from David. I just watched him and
I did I think he kind of maybe you knew,
I don't know. You got to kick out of it.
But and he loved Twin Peaks so much.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He loved the world of Twin Peaks so much that
he couldn't resist and he actually joined the cast as
Gordon Cole. He wanted to play in that world.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It was so special to him.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Have they come to you for any of the shows
you've done, like Sex and the City, Desperate Housewives and said, hey,
we want to do a reboot.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, but I have heard.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Kerry Washington is talking about this for Desperate Housewives, so
she's got an idea. It's very early, early on, so
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It could be fun. Yeah, you seem too stereo Lane.
You seem to be showing up in what I don't know,
I find to be the most entertaining shows for me anyway,
thank you. So I don't know what it is. So
what do you discard that comes your way? I know
you don't do everything. No, it's a good question. I
don't even really think about it. Well, things come, types
of things. Do you steer. I'm trying to get back
(13:03):
to creativity. You'll get a script and go. I just
don't see how I could really have fun doing that. Yeah,
that's part of it. Part of it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Do I connect with the world or the character honestly?
And sometimes you know, you surprise yourself. But usually what
kind of gets filtered through somehow makes sense to me.
So I'm like, okay, this is good. I mean the lowdown,
which is out right now we're gonna drop actually next
week politician. It's set in Tulsa, Oklahoma. But he is
(13:34):
a guy that has secrets, so that seems to be
a common thread.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Don't tell you any what I do?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, what about in the opposite direction? Obviously, we know
you love twin Peaks. Is there anything that you look
back on and you're like, damn it, why did.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I do that? Oh? Yes, this afternoon, it'll be this show.
Not at all. I'm so happy to be here. Oh yeah.
You know there are shows that you going with the.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Best intentions and and they end up surprising you in
sort of scary ways. I know there's there's a lot
of controversy about show Girls, and I'm talking about that one,
and so I was that was one where I was like, oh,
I didn't turn out exactly as I expected.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But it has found uh an audience and a life.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It's found an audience with our creepy producer over here, the.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Man though not the only one, the creepy guys. He's
coming toward the microphone. Yes, I made la Colm McLaughlin,
I waits your.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Question legitimate questions. I do actually have two now that
you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think I brought it up, which is scary scary thought.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Okay, were you fully nude?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, well let's see the technically I wasn't a pool.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah you wear a Yeah, you wear a thing. It's
it's there's not much of a thing, but there's a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Was the water cold? It was warm? Actually.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
However, however, here's a little insight. Even at well, where
do they have the tempest like ninety eight degrees or not?
They have very very warm pool water. You still get
cold because your your body is losing temperature. So we
would go from the pool into there a hot tub
which is even warmer, to warm us up from the
very warm pool.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So how do you don't practice that scene? Stop?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'll tell you. We rehearsed for weeks on that. I
do remember going in for a rehearsal though with Paul
Verhoven and who was a director and are a DP cinematographer.
And so we're in the afternoon, we're there at the
pool at the location, and I come out. I'm wearing
like board shorts, you know, as you do, and like, okay,
(15:40):
we'll walk walk through the this is gonna happen here,
and this is gonna happen here, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So Paul and DP.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Come out and they have the the European thongs on
and these are these are guys that you know. And
then necessarily want to, you know, not the guys you
want to see. We're in European and I was just like, guys, guys,
can you not wear shorts? Can you not do something
about this? They were like, totally.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Fine, thank you. I wasn't going to say it, but
you said it. Okay, Well there you go. The image.
The image is early in the morning, is tricky? Are
you done yet?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I do have a legitimate question, Okay, you're you're kind
of guiding these young creatives through the early parts of
their career. What are they learning from you? Because I
look at your career, You've been doing.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
This for a long time and you're still I mean,
I'm tged that in a negative way, but it's hard
to do that successfully for a long time. Do they
ask you how you've been able to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
During the course of the conversation, we talked about the
ups and downs of a career, and I've had plenty
expectations that are that are smashed, you know what I mean.
But I'm I'm I'm less guiding and more just really
letting them share with me their experience so far, and
and each one of them is different and very interesting.
(16:54):
And then what it does It triggers in me like,
oh my gosh, I remember an experience that's like that
as well, and that that just goes back and forth
between the two of us, and before you know it,
the hour is done, you know, and it's it's and
then we end with a fun game. Of course, that's
always something especially we do.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's our game. We are we gonna play a game
at the end of the time. Let's play a game.
What do you have? What are we gonna do? Family feud?
Family food? Get ready? At least Ragger has to play
to this would be the worst day ever in the
history of worst shows. You're being so acidic. Colm McLaughlin's here,
(17:33):
of course, what are we even doing this podcast? We're
all very skippy about and doing cartwheels about. Yes, uh,
and it just like you looks like you're having a
lot of fun doing this. And so is this something
you ever dreamed you'd be doing? And how did this?
How did this come about?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Just someone else's No, it started out as it started
off in a completely different idea actually, as these things
often do, so we said, you know, it was during
a short pandem make influenced. Actually you're inspired, and it's
like you're not working to doing too much. What can
we do? What can we do that's kind of creative?
And we started sort of going through different ideas and
different thoughts. There was a wine show at one time,
because I'm very big into wine. I said, oh, maybe
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we can do something with wine or with business blah
blah blah, and it finally distilled down and became this show.
He said, you know what, let's talk about Let's talk
about this young the young creatives idea and what that
might look like. But it really came from the creatives
from my wife's company, Full Picture. Wife, Desiree Gruber, is
very very smart and very talented, and so she sort
of said, you should go off and find something that's
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going to really inspire you.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And we came up with this idea.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So it was a you know, it took a while
to sort of ferment, and we finally got from ment
because of the wine thing. Very sorry anyway, and and
this is what we've come up with it. I'm having
a great time. I had no id, but I you know,
you don't know when you start. It's like, am I
going to be able to have a conversation with this is
going to be interesting. How how is this going to work?
And I just said, you know what I'm most comfortable
(18:55):
doing just talking, you know, having a conversation, and let's
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I want everyone to listen to this podcast. It's out today.
It's called what are We Even Doing? What are we
even doing? And you have the best voice.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I could just sit here and listen to your talk.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you. I learned from the best here.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You have this thing. You're doing this thing, though, I
tell you what doing. When people put headphones on and
they listen to them talk, they sound a little different
than they do without headphones on. That's true. But we're
like the way it sounds in this business. We say
it gives you nen. Yeah, he's got neck nuts, neck nuts,
neck nuts. I love that. I'm gonna use that. Look
at this text message just popped into your TikTok live.
(19:34):
It's right, we've been live on TikTok the whole time.
What people are leaving the can videos to come watch you?
Oh my okay, that's so rare. Just popped into your
TikTok life. Kyle is looking the best he's ever looked.
He's my zaddy, Oh girlszad yo I like it, Daddy
one in the daddy calling nice than well, thank you.
(19:56):
The lighting is wonderful than here, by the way, no
one ever we've got radium lighting. So as an actor,
I want to finish up that. The conversation is as
an actor being able to sit down with these creative
up and comers, and so I'm established and established, very established.
(20:18):
Do you find yourself itching to get back out there
and get to work again, get another project going. Does
it inspire you? Because if so, that's where the glow
comes from you. Being inspired and glowing from them is
what's gonna make this think great.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, well they're all they're all successful at what they're doing,
you know, and they're and they all love what they're doing.
And so yeah, when we have a conversation, I'm like,
I really it'd be fun to do this with them
or so, you know, working with Dylan O'Brien is an
actor I've admired for many years.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I said, God, it would really fun to do is
scene with Dylan.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
He's so great, even just a scene, it would be
really great, you know, let alone a whole thing. So yeah,
that's that, that is definitely there. When I have the
conversation with them. It gets me jazzed up and ready
to go to work. It's it's a it's an amazing thing.
It's a weird it's a weird thing. This is what
what I what moves me, you know, motivates me, drives me.
It's like this creativity and when we're in that space
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with these other with these other creatives, that that is
definitely there.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So the takeaway for all of us, no matter what
you do in this life is you find these people
that you surround yourself with to inspire you, people that
just really spark your plug is such a thing. Spark plug.
I gotta say, oh God, that those are awful time.
You got to you got to surround yourself with people
that make you want to get up and go and
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continue doing what you love, doing what you need to
be doing, when what the universe needs for you to do.
And it sounds like you have found this in this
podcast I have and you can hear it right before
your ears. What are we even doing, Kyle MacLaughlin, It's
the latest on our Elvis Tran podcast network. Such a
pleasure to have you here, my god, ellis such a
pleasure to be here. Thank you and for listening to
every syllable you get us on this podcast. Thank you
(21:57):
so much. This has been live the entire time. We
didn't even tell you on the Instagram and on TikTok
at Elvis Dran Show, Kyle mcloughland every whe
Fly from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Thank you, Mercedes Benz.
Con McLaughlin's here. You need to get Mercedes ben My god,
I do Mercedes Benz needs to sponsored the podcast. Let's
work on that. Come on, man, Capitalistic Piglet's Oh, I'm ready,
I comic Cloughman. It's an it's an honor to meet you.
Thank you. I wish we hear. I was honored to
(00:21):
meet you. Thank you. I wish we had more moments
before we came in here, but it was like here,
that's good, we can have them now. We've all been
such fans of your work for so many years. Thank you.
But now we get to see you in a whole
different light. Yes, tell everyone what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm doing a podcast. It's called what are We even Doing?
We dropped today. I spend time interviewing young creatives, so
we talk about their process, their creative process.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is not a journey into a personal world. This
is about kind of.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Where they where they go for their creativity, what inspires them,
how they've used social media to tell their story. And
every story is different and it's fascinating, and we kind
of run the gamut from we've had interviews. Kya Gerber
is up today, Dylan O'Brien an actor. We've got willib
(01:11):
Bennett speak with her as well, so kind of across
the board.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And they're all interesting people, fascinating and doing wonderful things.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I'd like you and Kay Sinnat to get together and
do a little something.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay on the list we have them on ready request. Well,
being a creator as you are yourself, how enlightening is
it to have people from other levels of age genre?
What levels might those be? I mean, do they do?
(01:41):
They do? They spark it for you? These conversations talking
absolutely well. I think you know it starts being an actor.
Of course working with other actors.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Have got something out now with Ethan Hawke, and we
were talking about this last night. Just that kind of
creativity that happens in front of the camera, provided that
the environment is is a career one is really what
we live for as creative beings. And I think in
conversations with some of our young guests.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's the same.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We sit in a room like this and we talk
and out of that I just get I get high
on it really. I mean, it's just a wonderful way
to communicate and talk about what what drives them, you know,
what motivates them? Where where does the creative stuff come from?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And and how do they start? Which is my journey
is a very strange, odd one. Everyone has a different
way in so that's also part of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So Kyle's what are we even doing? As he said,
it drops today. You can start hearing these podcasts on
the iHeartRadio network and wherever you get your podcast. Of
course you're ten and you say ten, and you have
thirty four mins ago and then and more beyond that.
But what have you? Is there something that sticks out
in your mind during these first ten that makes you go, God,
(02:54):
that was a moment And I couldn't stop thinking about
that moment all day after we recorded that podcast. Yeah,
every time.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So we've done ten times, done ten interviews, and everyone
at some point in time there is a moment. And again,
this is a conversation. This is a casual conversation. I'm
not probing. I just want them to feel comfortable enough
to reveal to me what it is that there, how
they go, how they work. And I remember the one
today actually speaking with Kaya because you know, I grew
up with with her mom, you know, so we bring
(03:22):
up her mom. We talk about that, and I said
to her, did your mom cool? Did you think she
was cool when you were growing up? And she said
absolutely not, She was like a mom, and I said,
that's beautiful. And then we talked about the fact that
she was a tree in one of her first theatrical experiences,
and I shared the fact that I was also a tree.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I was a tree. Were you a tree? Any other
people who were on stage? Any bushes, shrubbery? Yeah, you've
got character. I was always get out of here. You
haven't lived until you play that tree. So she was
a tree? Yeah? Yeah. So we shared that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Just crazy stuff comes up in conversations and I enjoyed that,
and then we did it finally at the end, we
did that thing where we we did Shakespearean insults to
each other. Okay, and we pulled up because she she
loves Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Your kid.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Prompted a roguean peasant slave? Yes, uh. And we put
on these kind of funny callers. So it's it's all.
It's good fun, lighthearted humor with some conversation that hopefully
gets into some deeper places.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So you addressed as a hot dog somewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I certainly do did. Sorry, yes I had. I brought
my hot dog costume here. I've left it in the
green room.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I have a curzy of kind of a fun social
media presence. And behind me here you can see a
couple of the team memories. They didn't wear their their
hot dog costumes today.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
But away I know right, they're turning away, they're looking
cat that did you. They're giving us set to and
I'll talk about this and go down this road. Not
the hot dog, not the hot dog. Yeah, we were
dancing around just for fun.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It was literally was like really and they were like yeah,
I said, okay, I mean I'm up for anything.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What was this hot dog thing? I dressed up in
a hot talk costume?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It was it was a trend, a TikTok trend that
we followed Chapel Roone song and we just kind of
did this crazy moment dancing around and people seem to
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
If everyone wants to know how to be creative, they
should go to Kyle. You may make me want to
dress like I want condiments. Pay the question though, out
of these ten I asked you, like, is there anything
that stuck out. Of course, I talked about being a
tree thing. Is there something you're learning from them? And
because I think that's what is going to make your
(05:38):
podcast a lot different than a lot of podcasts. You're
actually curious, yeah, about what sparked them, and then then
in turn it sparks you. I'm a s yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So during a conversation, of course they're sharing because it
is a conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's how we set it up.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So I asked them questions that I'm interested in, and
then I find myself sharing kind of my my journey,
you know, my early days and what that was like.
And there's a kind of fun meeting of the minds
that happens, the differences and the similarities. I was talking
with Dylan O'Brien and I was saying, it feels like
today there's much more fluidity in terms of roles and
(06:14):
performance and what you can do and how you present
yourself in terms of being an actor. And I remember
when I started, there was pretty you know, a pretty
narrow lane in terms of what you were expected to
do and kind of what you were trying to aspire
to do, and you didn't really venture off of that,
and I said, there's a freedom in that that happens
with today's actors that I find really refreshing. I kind
(06:36):
of wish we'd had that when I was younger as well.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So when the director says, Okay, you know your lines,
here's what we want you to do or where we
want you to go go, does that still give you
butterflies in your stomach? Oh, it's just excitement. Yeah, Oh God,
what do I do with it? Yes? Yeah, Now it
depends on the situation, honestly.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And again I was referring back to Ethan when I
work with Ethan, because we're similar in the fact that
the script is the starting point, but it depends on
the director. To some directors, they don't want you to
experiment and kind of go off a little bit. Sterlin Harjoe,
who is the director of what we're doing right now,
was was just the opposite. He was very much about,
(07:17):
let's let's let's play in this world. Let's start with
here with the material that we have, and let's see
where she goes. And uh, that to me is it's
a little bit like the conversations I have with my guests.
This is there's no set plan I mean, I've got
a couple of questions and we just sort of let
them run and we go off in different worlds. Really
it's fun.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wow. Okay, by the way, turning us on to Kyle
Maclauchlin's here, what are we even doing? Uh? This it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I like to be what are what? What are we even?
There's so many ways that you can agree even even
even do it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Uh. This is the latest show to join the Elvis
dram Podcast network, and we are just thrilled to see
where this is going. I'm thrilled with what if you
just ten we'd be happy if you keep going. We
must have more.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
How do you find the people that you want to
do your podcast with? Because I said young content creators?
Where are they coming from?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I recommendations actually from my team and they know
people and then some people that I also suggest that
Kaya was a suggestion. I knew her, and I started
off with people that I kind of knew a little bit. Kaya,
Benny of course, Benny Skinner, who's in overcompensating. Can I
mention that we're we're going back for a second season?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah no, please don't say that. Don't say that. Is
it too late. Should I hope today the jury will disregard.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, don't you didn't hear that people, No, it's
definitely true. We're going back to overcompensating too. And so
so I knew Bennie a little bit. So when I started,
you know, your butterflies and everything, and you want to
make sure. You don't know if this is going to
work really when you sit down.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Here's the idea.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We're going to sit down and have this conversation. And
I think it's going to be good, but I don't know.
But it turned out to be. I mean, I had
so much fun, so much fun, which.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Is a great show.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's a great well, thank you. It's just a great idea.
It's just a great idea.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And thank you for bringing I mean, you brought us on.
I mean you you're the man. We don't just a man.
We don't exist without you. No, I can't handle it.
You're the man. You're the man. I love this text
that just came through. I've been listening to you for
fifteen years. This is the first guess that interests me.
You know, your.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Audience is going to tell you, they're going to give
you honesty.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
See Lee Schrager was on before you. I guess that
really just comment.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Has doing this changed the way that you create content now?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Interesting question?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Uh not? Yeah, in a way. Yes, I think the
whole journey I've changed. I've changed because the whole process
of engaging social media. I've kind of let my my
crazy side out. I mean, I'm I'm very silly, and
I've been that way all my life. But there's as
I was talking earlier, I was saying, you know, there
was a period of time when that you don't want
to lead into that. You know, it's sort of the
(09:56):
young leading man. You got to be serious, you know,
brooding and all that. And now I've like my age
and what's happening. I'm like, screw it, we're going you know,
and I just jump in. So and I think that
that has that influence has come from this younger generation,
certainly from my son is seventeen, and he's a big
influence on me.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh he's keeping an eye on you. He is keeping
an eye on me.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, see on YouTube all the time, Like my sixteen
year old, that's all he does. YouTube, that's where they
get all their content.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, it is everything. It's more and more so than
any other platform. YouTube is sort of where they go.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And I find, I would say, kind of the same
way I go.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I go on Instagram more than that's me too. Do
you fall into the whole? Do you like hours later?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, But I seem like I'm like, I'm learning things,
you know what i mean. I'm like, no, this is educational.
I'm you're learning how not to be as a human
as well.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's my favorite. Okay, what are your favorite go tos?
When you see it on Instagram, you've got to stop
and watch it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh, I'm really bad with Well, they don't how much
I learned on this. But the cat videos where the
cat videos cats are like fighting each other, like and
they're like, you know, get.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The hell out of his show. I'm into airplane fights.
I'm so into the airplane fights. Don't judge. Yeah, I can't.
I look I have to look away. I'm too. I'm
too embarrassed. I can't like.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Innocent children that curse and they don't even like their
parents start cracking up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
They don't want to last use the sea word. I'm like,
you know, God. Well, So, speaking of creativity, can you
think back on your your body of work? What was
that one that sticks out to you, that project that
you were given license to and you succeeded in being
(11:39):
your most creative. The character just came from you and
no one else, and you're so proud of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I go back to Twin Peaks, Dale Cooper creating the
character of Dale Cooper with alongside David Lynch because he
was he was obviously my first two films were what
they Dune in Blue Velvet and then Twin Peaks, of course,
and so he was a mentor, a guide, like a
big brother for me, and a lot of Dale Cooper.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I just borrowed from David. I just watched him and
I did I think he kind of maybe you knew,
I don't know. You got to kick out of it.
But and he loved Twin Peaks so much.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He loved the world of Twin Peaks so much that
he couldn't resist and he actually joined the cast as
Gordon Cole. He wanted to play in that world.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It was so special to him.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Have they come to you for any of the shows
you've done, like Sex and the City, Desperate Housewives and said, hey,
we want to do a reboot.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, but I have heard.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Kerry Washington is talking about this for Desperate Housewives, so
she's got an idea. It's very early, early on, so
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It could be fun. Yeah, you seem too stereo Lane.
You seem to be showing up in what I don't know,
I find to be the most entertaining shows for me anyway,
thank you. So I don't know what it is. So
what do you discard that comes your way? I know
you don't do everything. No, it's a good question. I
don't even really think about it. Well, things come, types
of things. Do you steer. I'm trying to get back
(13:03):
to creativity. You'll get a script and go. I just
don't see how I could really have fun doing that. Yeah,
that's part of it. Part of it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Do I connect with the world or the character honestly?
And sometimes you know, you surprise yourself. But usually what
kind of gets filtered through somehow makes sense to me.
So I'm like, okay, this is good. I mean the lowdown,
which is out right now we're gonna drop actually next
week politician. It's set in Tulsa, Oklahoma. But he is
(13:34):
a guy that has secrets, so that seems to be
a common thread.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Don't tell you any what I do?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, what about in the opposite direction? Obviously, we know
you love twin Peaks. Is there anything that you look
back on and you're like, damn it, why did.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I do that? Oh? Yes, this afternoon, it'll be this show.
Not at all. I'm so happy to be here. Oh yeah.
You know there are shows that you going with the.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Best intentions and and they end up surprising you in
sort of scary ways. I know there's there's a lot
of controversy about show Girls, and I'm talking about that one,
and so I was that was one where I was like, oh,
I didn't turn out exactly as I expected.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But it has found uh an audience and a life.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It's found an audience with our creepy producer over here, the.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Man though not the only one, the creepy guys. He's
coming toward the microphone. Yes, I made la Colm McLaughlin,
I waits your.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Question legitimate questions. I do actually have two now that
you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I think I brought it up, which is scary scary thought.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Okay, were you fully nude?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, well let's see the technically I wasn't a pool.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah you wear a Yeah, you wear a thing. It's
it's there's not much of a thing, but there's a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Was the water cold? It was warm? Actually.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
However, however, here's a little insight. Even at well, where
do they have the tempest like ninety eight degrees or not?
They have very very warm pool water. You still get
cold because your your body is losing temperature. So we
would go from the pool into there a hot tub
which is even warmer, to warm us up from the
very warm pool.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So how do you don't practice that scene? Stop?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'll tell you. We rehearsed for weeks on that. I
do remember going in for a rehearsal though with Paul
Verhoven and who was a director and are a DP cinematographer.
And so we're in the afternoon, we're there at the
pool at the location, and I come out. I'm wearing
like board shorts, you know, as you do, and like, okay,
(15:40):
we'll walk walk through the this is gonna happen here,
and this is gonna happen here, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So Paul and DP.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Come out and they have the the European thongs on
and these are these are guys that you know. And
then necessarily want to, you know, not the guys you
want to see. We're in European and I was just like, guys, guys,
can you not wear shorts? Can you not do something
about this? They were like, totally.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Fine, thank you. I wasn't going to say it, but
you said it. Okay, Well there you go. The image.
The image is early in the morning, is tricky? Are
you done yet?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I do have a legitimate question, Okay, you're you're kind
of guiding these young creatives through the early parts of
their career. What are they learning from you? Because I
look at your career, You've been doing.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
This for a long time and you're still I mean,
I'm tged that in a negative way, but it's hard
to do that successfully for a long time. Do they
ask you how you've been able to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
During the course of the conversation, we talked about the
ups and downs of a career, and I've had plenty
expectations that are that are smashed, you know what I mean.
But I'm I'm I'm less guiding and more just really
letting them share with me their experience so far, and
and each one of them is different and very interesting.
(16:54):
And then what it does It triggers in me like,
oh my gosh, I remember an experience that's like that
as well, and that that just goes back and forth
between the two of us, and before you know it,
the hour is done, you know, and it's it's and
then we end with a fun game. Of course, that's
always something especially we do.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's our game. We are we gonna play a game
at the end of the time. Let's play a game.
What do you have? What are we gonna do? Family feud?
Family food? Get ready? At least Ragger has to play
to this would be the worst day ever in the
history of worst shows. You're being so acidic. Colm McLaughlin's here,
(17:33):
of course, what are we even doing this podcast? We're
all very skippy about and doing cartwheels about. Yes, uh,
and it just like you looks like you're having a
lot of fun doing this. And so is this something
you ever dreamed you'd be doing? And how did this?
How did this come about?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Just someone else's No, it started out as it started
off in a completely different idea actually, as these things
often do, so we said, you know, it was during
a short pandem make influenced. Actually you're inspired, and it's
like you're not working to doing too much. What can
we do? What can we do that's kind of creative?
And we started sort of going through different ideas and
different thoughts. There was a wine show at one time,
because I'm very big into wine. I said, oh, maybe
(18:12):
we can do something with wine or with business blah
blah blah, and it finally distilled down and became this show.
He said, you know what, let's talk about Let's talk
about this young the young creatives idea and what that
might look like. But it really came from the creatives
from my wife's company, Full Picture. Wife, Desiree Gruber, is
very very smart and very talented, and so she sort
of said, you should go off and find something that's
(18:32):
going to really inspire you.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
And we came up with this idea.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So it was a you know, it took a while
to sort of ferment, and we finally got from ment
because of the wine thing. Very sorry anyway, and and
this is what we've come up with it. I'm having
a great time. I had no id, but I you know,
you don't know when you start. It's like, am I
going to be able to have a conversation with this is
going to be interesting. How how is this going to work?
And I just said, you know what I'm most comfortable
(18:55):
doing just talking, you know, having a conversation, and let's
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I want everyone to listen to this podcast. It's out today.
It's called what are We Even Doing? What are we
even doing? And you have the best voice.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I could just sit here and listen to your talk.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you. I learned from the best here.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You have this thing. You're doing this thing, though, I
tell you what doing. When people put headphones on and
they listen to them talk, they sound a little different
than they do without headphones on. That's true. But we're
like the way it sounds in this business. We say
it gives you nen. Yeah, he's got neck nuts, neck nuts,
neck nuts. I love that. I'm gonna use that. Look
at this text message just popped into your TikTok live.
(19:34):
It's right, we've been live on TikTok the whole time.
What people are leaving the can videos to come watch you?
Oh my okay, that's so rare. Just popped into your
TikTok life. Kyle is looking the best he's ever looked.
He's my zaddy, Oh girlszad yo I like it, Daddy
one in the daddy calling nice than well, thank you.
(19:56):
The lighting is wonderful than here, by the way, no
one ever we've got radium lighting. So as an actor,
I want to finish up that. The conversation is as
an actor being able to sit down with these creative
up and comers, and so I'm established and established, very established.
(20:18):
Do you find yourself itching to get back out there
and get to work again, get another project going. Does
it inspire you? Because if so, that's where the glow
comes from you. Being inspired and glowing from them is
what's gonna make this think great.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, well they're all they're all successful at what they're doing,
you know, and they're and they all love what they're doing.
And so yeah, when we have a conversation, I'm like,
I really it'd be fun to do this with them
or so, you know, working with Dylan O'Brien is an
actor I've admired for many years.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I said, God, it would really fun to do is
scene with Dylan.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
He's so great, even just a scene, it would be
really great, you know, let alone a whole thing. So yeah,
that's that, that is definitely there. When I have the
conversation with them. It gets me jazzed up and ready
to go to work. It's it's a it's an amazing thing.
It's a weird it's a weird thing. This is what
what I what moves me, you know, motivates me, drives me.
It's like this creativity and when we're in that space
(21:07):
with these other with these other creatives, that that is
definitely there.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So the takeaway for all of us, no matter what
you do in this life is you find these people
that you surround yourself with to inspire you, people that
just really spark your plug is such a thing. Spark plug.
I gotta say, oh God, that those are awful time.
You got to you got to surround yourself with people
that make you want to get up and go and
(21:32):
continue doing what you love, doing what you need to
be doing, when what the universe needs for you to do.
And it sounds like you have found this in this
podcast I have and you can hear it right before
your ears. What are we even doing, Kyle MacLaughlin, It's
the latest on our Elvis Tran podcast network. Such a
pleasure to have you here, my god, ellis such a
pleasure to be here. Thank you and for listening to
every syllable you get us on this podcast. Thank you
(21:57):
so much. This has been live the entire time. We
didn't even tell you on the Instagram and on TikTok
at Elvis Dran Show, Kyle mcloughland every whe
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