June 14, 2024 • 7 mins
Cole Redding stops by to talk about his new single, "Gay Americana"!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was about five years ago. Cole Writing came into
our show. He had a song about his dad. Remember this.
It was a saddie. Yeah, it was a sad song,
a song saddy about daddy. Yeah, And we got to
get Cole Writing in here to talk about this. It
was great. And then we're looking at your TikTok and
there's another song we're listening to about a breakup.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh yeah, it won't be me another Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well I write like a deep I read from a
deep place.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So now Cole has Gay Americana.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, now that's so I'm excited about. I love this
record so much I can't tell you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, we're gonna play in a second, so everyone calm down.
Let's talk about the journey now, Okay, what's great about
your story?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Call?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And people are just getting to know you. They need
to hear about your journey because that makes the song
even more important. On this path, this pathway from you. Then,
as a guy growing up, I guess closeted at some
point in your life, right, and then now you've kt
boom out, you kick the door down.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The boom the old gay Cole is here.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, but no, but now you have a totally different look,
a different vibe, and you're a lot different as far
as your self awareness.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah you're here.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, talk about the journey between the first time you
came on our show, yeah versus now, how did you
find your lane? I think this is important for anyone
and everyone, even if they're not an artist, they could
be an industry. How do you find your lane? You
found it on your job.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I feel like also, love like life is so chaotic
now and move so quickly. It's like we're all sort
of shedding skin so consistently. And I just gotten sober.
That was an integral part. I think my sobriety and
my insecurity about my sexuality kind of one hand in hand.
So I was like, I have to get sober in
order to come out, and I don't know, I think
coming out when you're drunk, it's so much easier. No,
(01:39):
it would have been easier, but it was. It was
a deeply healing time, and I think I tried to
do everything I could to sort of like balance out
that sloppy kid who disappointed a lot of people. And
I just built this thing in twenty nineteen that was
very sort of buttoned up and very serious and I
came on here, got sick. I got diagnosed with like
(02:02):
type of diabetes. Out on the hospital bed for a month.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He was in a coma.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, but then but but looked at the ceiling and
I was like, you know what, you get opportunities every
day to do something new with your life. And I
moved to La a couple of years ago. I'm working
with one consistent producer, Steven Santa Teresa, and we were like,
the world is really noisy, what is the point? Like,
I don't want to just make noise. I have a
lot of life experiences and we found this phrase gay Americana,
(02:29):
which to me explained so much of my life and
meaning that I think that I look at my life
and a lot of times when you see like great
LGBTQ representation and like classic American pop culture, those things
aren't always together. It's like there's like sick dance artists
that are gay and things that are like a little edgier,
(02:49):
and I'm like very like heartland palatable Americana. So this, yeah,
I think it is this is your lane. Yeah, And
I think mostly like artistically, it gives me, like, I
you know, even this game American is like this, This
is this sweet coming out story with like this thrashing
Bruce Springsteen style record, And there's a duality to that,
(03:10):
and I think it allows me to talk about my
own personal journey and if in any way that helps,
like the next goal feel a little scene that would
be like the highest for me.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So here it is you're floating around out our space,
not really tethered to the planet, like wondering where am
I going? What am I doing? What's the point in
all of this? As an artist or as a parent,
or as a banker, or as anyone, Like, what's the point?
What am I doing? You gotta find you gotta find
who you are. Yeah, and then it all sorts starts
(03:42):
to make sense, you know, as a mom, I'm understanding.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think this story is so good because of the
fact that so many people are going through something like
this where they just cannot find themselves and they feel
lost or they feel like they were supposed to do
this and it didn't work out, and now what do
I do? And your story is amazing that you picked
it up and you were like, you.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Know what, believe Yeah, no, I think I'm gonna do
this And this is what I'm saying I really do think,
like most importantly in the world, it's like you are
in control of so little you are in control of,
Like if you get really quiet and go, who am I? Like?
What do I have that nobody else has on the planet.
If you run with that, just minute by minute, you're golden,
and then you are happier for it. You make other
(04:19):
people happier for it, and it's like a trickle effect.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I feel like one of the biggest pieces of you
finding yourself. And please correct me if I'm wrong. I
was looking at your social media and you've said that
this song game Aerkana is a song that thirteen year
old you wishes.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, had, I wish I had, I think because when
you're a kid, it's like you just can't especially I
can just speak as a gay kid myself, even if
your family isn't going to have a problem with it.
You just it's like this inside job that you have
to work on that you have all of these You've
like let culture tether things to you, and you have
all of this fear to just have someone from far
(04:55):
to go like, oh now I look like that, that's cool.
I also do that I want to do that, and
then to hear it from someone to go like I
was that incredibly scared, insecure, like volatile, little gay kid
who was trying to find his way. I think that
is so crucial to just have all types of representation
where people in the world can look at that and
use it as some type of north star. So not
(05:16):
that I'm the north star, but symbolically, so you.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Can look back at yourself hating thirteen year old and say, hey,
it's okay, let yourself off the hook.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
This is a hug.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
This is a hug for him, But could that also
be it for everybody? If you're looking for your purpose,
what would thirteen year old you be proud of me?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think that's so true because the world hasn't like
gotten it's the hooks into you yet. If I could
talk to any teenager right now who's just like lost
in the sauce, whether it's mental health issues, whether it's gay,
whether it's addiction, like whatever you think is your issue
that people have a problem with, like hold on to that, like,
don't let anybody put that fire out. I let people
(05:51):
put that fire out. I let me put that fire out.
That's your special sauce. That's gonna be like your magnet
in the world. People are gonna be obsessed with you
because of the thing that you think thought they hated
you for. You just have you can just get through
that initial weird period.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I heard a quote the other day and it made
me so sad, but it was also beautiful and I
never thought of it this way, which is a closet
is really just an upright casket. Don't let yourself stay
in there.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Come on out?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
True?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Is it not.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Pulling out moros? It's an upright casket. Where's your That's
a very interesting way of putting it. Say it again, Kandhi.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
A closet is basically an upright casket, So come on out,
don't keep yourself in there.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We got to play it. Gay Americana released just in
time for Pride Month, and uh we're calling it the
gayest song of the summer, all right, I think it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Is the trust Me. Once you hear that chorus, it's
like sixty five times.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It could be tied for the gayest song of the
summer because we're still playing the Scher Christmas song.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes they are, Oh my god, well no, we should
really put that on the table. Do you guys like
DJ play a Christmas song? Yeah, I'll play.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I play this June. I play it every week.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Shout out to my closest friend, sam Gongle, Samantha Gonngle.
This we don't understand how this record has not swept
the world. This is like one of the best pop
songs I've ever heard of the choir Ready, I still
play it. I play it once a week.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's so when I play about it, you should never
stop playing that. It's like playing a chestnuts roasted gout
in an open fire and shouldn't shake
It was about five years ago. Cole Writing came into
our show. He had a song about his dad. Remember this.
It was a saddie. Yeah, it was a sad song,
a song saddy about daddy. Yeah, And we got to
get Cole Writing in here to talk about this. It
was great. And then we're looking at your TikTok and
there's another song we're listening to about a breakup.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh yeah, it won't be me another Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Well I write like a deep I read from a
deep place.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So now Cole has Gay Americana.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, now that's so I'm excited about. I love this
record so much I can't tell you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, we're gonna play in a second, so everyone calm down.
Let's talk about the journey now, Okay, what's great about
your story?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Call?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And people are just getting to know you. They need
to hear about your journey because that makes the song
even more important. On this path, this pathway from you. Then,
as a guy growing up, I guess closeted at some
point in your life, right, and then now you've kt
boom out, you kick the door down.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The boom the old gay Cole is here.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, but no, but now you have a totally different look,
a different vibe, and you're a lot different as far
as your self awareness.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah you're here.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, talk about the journey between the first time you
came on our show, yeah versus now, how did you
find your lane? I think this is important for anyone
and everyone, even if they're not an artist, they could
be an industry. How do you find your lane? You
found it on your job.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I feel like also, love like life is so chaotic
now and move so quickly. It's like we're all sort
of shedding skin so consistently. And I just gotten sober.
That was an integral part. I think my sobriety and
my insecurity about my sexuality kind of one hand in hand.
So I was like, I have to get sober in
order to come out, and I don't know, I think
coming out when you're drunk, it's so much easier. No,
(01:39):
it would have been easier, but it was. It was
a deeply healing time, and I think I tried to
do everything I could to sort of like balance out
that sloppy kid who disappointed a lot of people. And
I just built this thing in twenty nineteen that was
very sort of buttoned up and very serious and I
came on here, got sick. I got diagnosed with like
(02:02):
type of diabetes. Out on the hospital bed for a month.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He was in a coma.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, but then but but looked at the ceiling and
I was like, you know what, you get opportunities every
day to do something new with your life. And I
moved to La a couple of years ago. I'm working
with one consistent producer, Steven Santa Teresa, and we were like,
the world is really noisy, what is the point? Like,
I don't want to just make noise. I have a
lot of life experiences and we found this phrase gay Americana,
(02:29):
which to me explained so much of my life and
meaning that I think that I look at my life
and a lot of times when you see like great
LGBTQ representation and like classic American pop culture, those things
aren't always together. It's like there's like sick dance artists
that are gay and things that are like a little edgier,
(02:49):
and I'm like very like heartland palatable Americana. So this, yeah,
I think it is this is your lane. Yeah, And
I think mostly like artistically, it gives me, like, I
you know, even this game American is like this, This
is this sweet coming out story with like this thrashing
Bruce Springsteen style record, And there's a duality to that,
(03:10):
and I think it allows me to talk about my
own personal journey and if in any way that helps,
like the next goal feel a little scene that would
be like the highest for me.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So here it is you're floating around out our space,
not really tethered to the planet, like wondering where am
I going? What am I doing? What's the point in
all of this? As an artist or as a parent,
or as a banker, or as anyone, Like, what's the point?
What am I doing? You gotta find you gotta find
who you are. Yeah, and then it all sorts starts
(03:42):
to make sense, you know, as a mom, I'm understanding.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I think this story is so good because of the
fact that so many people are going through something like
this where they just cannot find themselves and they feel
lost or they feel like they were supposed to do
this and it didn't work out, and now what do
I do? And your story is amazing that you picked
it up and you were like, you.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Know what, believe Yeah, no, I think I'm gonna do
this And this is what I'm saying I really do think,
like most importantly in the world, it's like you are
in control of so little you are in control of,
Like if you get really quiet and go, who am I? Like?
What do I have that nobody else has on the planet.
If you run with that, just minute by minute, you're golden,
and then you are happier for it. You make other
(04:19):
people happier for it, and it's like a trickle effect.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I feel like one of the biggest pieces of you
finding yourself. And please correct me if I'm wrong. I
was looking at your social media and you've said that
this song game Aerkana is a song that thirteen year
old you wishes.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, had, I wish I had, I think because when
you're a kid, it's like you just can't especially I
can just speak as a gay kid myself, even if
your family isn't going to have a problem with it.
You just it's like this inside job that you have
to work on that you have all of these You've
like let culture tether things to you, and you have
all of this fear to just have someone from far
(04:55):
to go like, oh now I look like that, that's cool.
I also do that I want to do that, and
then to hear it from someone to go like I
was that incredibly scared, insecure, like volatile, little gay kid
who was trying to find his way. I think that
is so crucial to just have all types of representation
where people in the world can look at that and
use it as some type of north star. So not
(05:16):
that I'm the north star, but symbolically, so you.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Can look back at yourself hating thirteen year old and say, hey,
it's okay, let yourself off the hook.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
This is a hug.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
This is a hug for him, But could that also
be it for everybody? If you're looking for your purpose,
what would thirteen year old you be proud of me?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I think that's so true because the world hasn't like
gotten it's the hooks into you yet. If I could
talk to any teenager right now who's just like lost
in the sauce, whether it's mental health issues, whether it's gay,
whether it's addiction, like whatever you think is your issue
that people have a problem with, like hold on to that, like,
don't let anybody put that fire out. I let people
(05:51):
put that fire out. I let me put that fire out.
That's your special sauce. That's gonna be like your magnet
in the world. People are gonna be obsessed with you
because of the thing that you think thought they hated
you for. You just have you can just get through
that initial weird period.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I heard a quote the other day and it made
me so sad, but it was also beautiful and I
never thought of it this way, which is a closet
is really just an upright casket. Don't let yourself stay
in there.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Come on out?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
True?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Is it not.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Pulling out moros? It's an upright casket. Where's your That's
a very interesting way of putting it. Say it again, Kandhi.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
A closet is basically an upright casket, So come on out,
don't keep yourself in there.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
We got to play it. Gay Americana released just in
time for Pride Month, and uh we're calling it the
gayest song of the summer, all right, I think it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Is the trust Me. Once you hear that chorus, it's
like sixty five times.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It could be tied for the gayest song of the
summer because we're still playing the Scher Christmas song.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes they are, Oh my god, well no, we should
really put that on the table. Do you guys like
DJ play a Christmas song? Yeah, I'll play.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I play this June. I play it every week.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Shout out to my closest friend, sam Gongle, Samantha Gonngle.
This we don't understand how this record has not swept
the world. This is like one of the best pop
songs I've ever heard of the choir Ready, I still
play it. I play it once a week.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's so when I play about it, you should never
stop playing that. It's like playing a chestnuts roasted gout
in an open fire and shouldn't shake
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