December 4, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're talking in your report earlier, Danielle about you know,
the Wizard of Oz at the Sphere in Las Vegas.
How much are people paying for tickets if.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
You get the Bad Nosebleeds one nineteen and like the
Front Row three seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The thing about watching things at the Sphere, as I've
learned it, there's no there's not a bad out seat
in the house. Yeah, so annoying In December, are you really?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeahs Street right, I'm going to see the Backstreet Boys. Yeah,
December twenty eight, seventh eight. With The Wizard of Oz,
I mean when it came out with ninety something years ago,
ninety years ninety years ago, it was a failure. Yep,
it was a failure. No one went to the theaters
and really liked it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
They lost over a million dollars back then.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's a lot of money, just is today. But now
once it hit commercial TV, it's become a huge classic.
The Wizard of Oz, I mean, can't imagine that not
being in our lives is one of our favorite films. Hey,
so I've got Andrea. Is this Andrea from Fort Lauderdale. Yes, Andrea, Andrea,
I am saying it correctly. I don't want to mess this.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Up either way. Either way is fine.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So you're listening to us, so why one seven?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
By the way, it's well, I listened on iHeart but yes.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, it's much colder where we are than where you are,
so a little joke.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
That's why I like to hear because I'm from New Jersey.
So I listened for the weather up there, and then
you go.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Nanny, nanny, pooh pooh exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So this is a great piece of trivia. Tell tell
everyone what you told us, Andrea.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
So, my grandmother's uncle was one of the three tin Men.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh wow, wait there was three tin men.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yep. So you know the scene where they jumped down
into like a black hole and then one comes back up. Yes,
he's the one that comes up.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh so here's a stunt. So cool. So he dressed
in the tin men costume and makeup and he would
be a stand in.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I think there was like iron or something in the paint.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, he got sick, well, I think is it Buddy Ebsen,
he was supposed to be. He was in the hospital
because of that makeup made him so sick. He's a
guy who played Jed Clampett on the Beverly Hill Billies.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh damn.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, So he did not end up playing the tin
Man because of that makeup. So you're saying your grandmother's
uncle got really sick from the tin Man makeup as well.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, and he was one of those so there were three.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Wow. Do they have any memorabilia from the movie like that?
You know, maybe he kept something.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Honestly, I have no idea. All I know is they said.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It was really creepy, well creepy as in looking at
their relative with that makeup on. They were slowly killing him.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yes, but no, they don't have the whole scene of
it was very any stories they tell me it's it's
not a good They didn't like to talk about it
to the family. Oh I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Wow, Well, I don't know. You know, we heard a
lot of stories and some of them could be just
folk lord, just whatever coming out of the wisdom of
Isn't there like a dead person you see.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
In the backup?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, it's all false. So, but what a great film.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Wasn't there like a curse with the Munchkins too? Like
something went wrong with the Munchkins. Something went wrong with
everyone who's a tin man.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, there was. There was a curse for the little people.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think, so I'm gonna go double check, but yeah,
they said that that that whole movie had a lot
of curses.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
A book.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I need this book.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna need the background.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yes song, but Pink Floyd when you play backwards or something,
the whole.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Album is supposed to go. Apparly Judy Garland was hopped
up on goofballs or some sort of drugs. The whole
they had they had Judy Garland really really high.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Really yeah? No, yeah, because she had anxiety, she was tired,
and she's a little girl. Yeah, and they were just
pushing her and pushing her, and they were injecting all
sorts of things into her. And then of course, you know,
look at the life she ended up living for the
rest of her life.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And also I think Louis b. Mayer apparently it was
a little handsy with her legedly. Oh my god, I
hate this film.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
There's so much going on. Two of the flying monkeys
were injured because the wires broke while lifting them. The
Wicked Witch's stunt double her broomstick exploded. She was severely burned.
The actual Wicked Witch suffered second and third degree burns
when effects of her melting scene went wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like it was rife with issues. The witch is Nimbus
two thousand exploded and the monkeys they weren't really flying.
They had wires.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sorry spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
God see Andrea, Andrea, look at the conversation that you
started just by this. No, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The snow was asbestos, Yes, it was.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It was.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It really was. No wonder they're all dead other than
the fact it came out ninety years ago. Yeah, so,
I mean, what a great piece of family history. It
gives you something to talk about at the Thanksgiving table
every year.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I guess absolutely.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
It's strange, but yes, look I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Thank you for listening to us. We appreciate it. Enjoy
your beautiful weather today.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Thank Christmas to all of you, and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Merry Christmas to you. Hope to see you at jingle Ball.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
There's a book called the Making of the Wizard of
Oz by al Jean Harmetts, but I don't know if
it's if it's there all the juicy, juicy dirt.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So you know, one of our favorite podcasts from my
good friend Patty Steele is about the Wizard of Oz
and all the crazy shenanigans. And a listener just texted
that in to remind us I wish I could get
on the phone. Yeah, you're a caller. Yeah, the most
fascinating podcast. One of our many incredible podcasts on the
Elvis Dran Network, home of Sauce on the side. Do
(05:49):
you have a renumber? I have a renumber anyway. Yeah.
As you can tell, we are live and we did
not plan. We do not plan for the times unfold
as we go. So here right here, this is I
got it? Okay you sure that number that never went there? Okay?
The bottomay bottom one? Yeah, okay, okay, call her up.
It was coloring PROMPTU. It's eight in the morning. Surely
(06:10):
she's away she.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, but the music, in all the stories behind this film,
it makes it so much bigger than just a film. Yeah, right,
is she answering? This is a bad day for radio,
A bad day for our show.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know, these spam blockers on the phones now might
make it a lot more difficult because a lot of
times we show up unknown or Colorady blocked.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Patty, Oh, you're gonna be live on the your notes,
you should ask her. I'm sorry, Patty, Is it okay
if we put you on real quick?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Hey, So we're talking about the Wizard of Oz, and
we just had a listener call up whose grandmother's uncle
was one of the three ten men who got sick
from the makeup. I don't know, so you know the story.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So then so we had several people text in about
your podcast about Wizard of Oz and all the weird
shenanigans going on in the background, and so that brought
me to call you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That was what, Yeah, that was an odd one. I
mean there was a lot. That was one of the
hardest movies for people to make because back you know,
it was in color, and that was one of the
early early color movies. But in order to make the
colors show up and to film it that way, the
set was it was like one hundred over one hundred degrees.
(07:31):
So you had makeup that was making people sick, you
had people that were badly injured during the making of it,
and then of course you had this incredibly I mean,
there were a lot of people that got. Really It's
funny because you know, I think today there'd be more
lawsuits and there'd be more people screaming about it, and
everybody was like, no, we're going to make this movie, right,
and so everybody just put up with it. But yeah,
(07:53):
it was it was a terrible set to work on
for that reason.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And also we heard that Lulabe Mayer was a little
hansy well yeah, you know, and and also Judy Garland
was all hopped up on all sorts of pills and shots.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And oh yeah, I mean she was a kid. First
of all. She was a kid that was kind of voluptuous,
and so they didn't want her to have breasts because
they want her to look like a little girl, and
so they wrapped her very tightly. Yeah, her boobs were
like squished into her chest. And then they were like
worried about her weight and so and she was, you know,
(08:35):
she was a kid. Kids grow and sometimes they get
a little heavier at some point in their lives, you know,
and that was what it was happening to her. So
they just kept her on all kinds of drugs and
anything they could to keep her working as many hours
as they could possibly keep her making and also kept
her from eating. Wow, it was really yeah. She never
(08:58):
I mean she never really recovered from the making of
that film. She was, you know, an addict her entire life,
and her mother, of course encouraged the whole thing because
her mother wanted she was the ultimate stage mother. You know.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So, I mean when you did all the research for
this this this episode in the backstory with Patty Steele,
did it make you look at this film a little differently?
I mean, do you I feel kind of dirty watching it?
I mean, or you feel like you should watch it
because they put all this effort into it, including people
who are.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Dying if you if you stop and look, and it's
kind of a it's kind of an interesting thing because
there's so much great art that was put out by
such a really crazy, not really great people. I mean,
there was that goes back thousands of years. Sometimes people
(09:48):
who are artists are are really crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
W have you have you heard Dandie's podcast? Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That's a that's the thing. I mean, art comes from
minds that don't work always the same way that the
rest of our minds work, and sometimes they're not really
great people. And so you see that, you know, both
with people who do beautiful painting and musicians. I mean,
(10:19):
it's funny because I've read stuff. I was actually looking
at Charles Dickens. You know, we all dick and tell
you know, Christmas Care, all that kind of stuff. He
treated his wife. I was not going to say a
nice word. He treated his wife like crap, and she
eventually she eventually dumped her and she died in just
(10:43):
complete obscurity and poverty.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This is a satisfy.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You have somebody like Mark Gives, somebody like Mark Twain
who was so madly in love with his wife. He
says that everything he ever created is because of her,
because he inspired him and he just I mean, she
was everything in the world to So you do have that.
I mean you have that. Look at the podcast we
(11:13):
did about Frank Lloyd Wright. Wow, and what a wacko
that guy was, and all the strange things that happened
in his life, you know, the murders.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
In the house, and he.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Left his he left his wife and kids and moved
in with this woman and she was murdered in his
house with people in the house. And then within nine
weeks of her death, he was living with a woman
who'd written him a really great letter about as far
as she was for him. You know, it's people, unfortunately,
and it's not always just artistic people. There are a
(11:50):
lot of just very non artistic people who are creeps too.
But you know, mine's work in unusual.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, as you listen to does I know we're all
a little whacked out as you listen to our friend
Patty still talk about this. This is why her podcast
is so loved. It's called The Backstory with Patty Steele.
I know we have to run here, but what what's
your what's your latest podcast that's out the episode?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
If you can recall, Oh, you're asking me, let's see
what do we put out this time?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So many?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Oh god, how terrible is that that? I can't think
of it at this moment.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Okay, we'll figure it out, but it is.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's what happens. And you call me up and say
you're on the air and.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just one nute, I know that. Sorry, you know what
we don't plan. So it is the Backstory with Patty Steele,
just listening to her voice and tell telling these stories,
stories about things you thought you knew but you didn't, yeh.
And I love that. Thank you. Patty, thanks for coming
onto the show.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
What the latest podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Is, Yeah, I'm gonna let you know. It's okay, it's
the fall of Blockbuster.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Oh oh, that's an interesting story. I mean the guy
at Blockbusters. The guys at Blockbuster were multi billion dollar
company and when Netflix came along and said, you know, hey,
we think you might want to approach it this way,
they were like, you're out of your mind. The Infide's
not going anywhere. It's a fadow.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And there you go, one of the many stories on
the backstory with Patty Steal. We love you. Thank you, Patty,
have a beautiful day to day.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Okay, thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Okay, by I love Patty. Awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I wonder know if there's a book she read to
do the research for the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But I'll text her, Yeah, text her.
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're talking in your report earlier, Danielle about you know,
the Wizard of Oz at the Sphere in Las Vegas.
How much are people paying for tickets if.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
You get the Bad Nosebleeds one nineteen and like the
Front Row three seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The thing about watching things at the Sphere, as I've
learned it, there's no there's not a bad out seat
in the house. Yeah, so annoying In December, are you really?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeahs Street right, I'm going to see the Backstreet Boys. Yeah,
December twenty eight, seventh eight. With The Wizard of Oz,
I mean when it came out with ninety something years ago,
ninety years ninety years ago, it was a failure. Yep,
it was a failure. No one went to the theaters
and really liked it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
They lost over a million dollars back then.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's a lot of money, just is today. But now
once it hit commercial TV, it's become a huge classic.
The Wizard of Oz, I mean, can't imagine that not
being in our lives is one of our favorite films. Hey,
so I've got Andrea. Is this Andrea from Fort Lauderdale. Yes, Andrea, Andrea,
I am saying it correctly. I don't want to mess this.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Up either way. Either way is fine.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So you're listening to us, so why one seven?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
By the way, it's well, I listened on iHeart but yes.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, it's much colder where we are than where you are,
so a little joke.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
That's why I like to hear because I'm from New Jersey.
So I listened for the weather up there, and then
you go.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Nanny, nanny, pooh pooh exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So this is a great piece of trivia. Tell tell
everyone what you told us, Andrea.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
So, my grandmother's uncle was one of the three tin Men.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh wow, wait there was three tin men.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yep. So you know the scene where they jumped down
into like a black hole and then one comes back up. Yes,
he's the one that comes up.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh so here's a stunt. So cool. So he dressed
in the tin men costume and makeup and he would
be a stand in.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I think there was like iron or something in the paint.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, he got sick, well, I think is it Buddy Ebsen,
he was supposed to be. He was in the hospital
because of that makeup made him so sick. He's a
guy who played Jed Clampett on the Beverly Hill Billies.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh damn.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, So he did not end up playing the tin
Man because of that makeup. So you're saying your grandmother's
uncle got really sick from the tin Man makeup as well.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, and he was one of those so there were three.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Wow. Do they have any memorabilia from the movie like that?
You know, maybe he kept something.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Honestly, I have no idea. All I know is they said.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It was really creepy, well creepy as in looking at
their relative with that makeup on. They were slowly killing him.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yes, but no, they don't have the whole scene of
it was very any stories they tell me it's it's
not a good They didn't like to talk about it
to the family. Oh I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Wow, Well, I don't know. You know, we heard a
lot of stories and some of them could be just
folk lord, just whatever coming out of the wisdom of
Isn't there like a dead person you see.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
In the backup?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, it's all false. So, but what a great film.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Wasn't there like a curse with the Munchkins too? Like
something went wrong with the Munchkins. Something went wrong with
everyone who's a tin man.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, there was. There was a curse for the little people.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think, so I'm gonna go double check, but yeah,
they said that that that whole movie had a lot
of curses.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
A book.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I need this book.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna need the background.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yes song, but Pink Floyd when you play backwards or something,
the whole.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Album is supposed to go. Apparly Judy Garland was hopped
up on goofballs or some sort of drugs. The whole
they had they had Judy Garland really really high.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Really yeah? No, yeah, because she had anxiety, she was tired,
and she's a little girl. Yeah, and they were just
pushing her and pushing her, and they were injecting all
sorts of things into her. And then of course, you know,
look at the life she ended up living for the
rest of her life.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And also I think Louis b. Mayer apparently it was
a little handsy with her legedly. Oh my god, I
hate this film.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
There's so much going on. Two of the flying monkeys
were injured because the wires broke while lifting them. The
Wicked Witch's stunt double her broomstick exploded. She was severely burned.
The actual Wicked Witch suffered second and third degree burns
when effects of her melting scene went wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like it was rife with issues. The witch is Nimbus
two thousand exploded and the monkeys they weren't really flying.
They had wires.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sorry spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
God see Andrea, Andrea, look at the conversation that you
started just by this. No, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The snow was asbestos, Yes, it was.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It was.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It really was. No wonder they're all dead other than
the fact it came out ninety years ago. Yeah, so,
I mean, what a great piece of family history. It
gives you something to talk about at the Thanksgiving table
every year.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I guess absolutely.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
It's strange, but yes, look I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Thank you for listening to us. We appreciate it. Enjoy
your beautiful weather today.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Thank Christmas to all of you, and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Merry Christmas to you. Hope to see you at jingle Ball.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
There's a book called the Making of the Wizard of
Oz by al Jean Harmetts, but I don't know if
it's if it's there all the juicy, juicy dirt.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So you know, one of our favorite podcasts from my
good friend Patty Steele is about the Wizard of Oz
and all the crazy shenanigans. And a listener just texted
that in to remind us I wish I could get
on the phone. Yeah, you're a caller. Yeah, the most
fascinating podcast. One of our many incredible podcasts on the
Elvis Dran Network, home of Sauce on the side. Do
(05:49):
you have a renumber? I have a renumber anyway. Yeah.
As you can tell, we are live and we did
not plan. We do not plan for the times unfold
as we go. So here right here, this is I
got it? Okay you sure that number that never went there? Okay?
The bottomay bottom one? Yeah, okay, okay, call her up.
It was coloring PROMPTU. It's eight in the morning. Surely
(06:10):
she's away she.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, but the music, in all the stories behind this film,
it makes it so much bigger than just a film. Yeah, right,
is she answering? This is a bad day for radio,
A bad day for our show.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know, these spam blockers on the phones now might
make it a lot more difficult because a lot of
times we show up unknown or Colorady blocked.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Patty, Oh, you're gonna be live on the your notes,
you should ask her. I'm sorry, Patty, Is it okay
if we put you on real quick?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Hey, So we're talking about the Wizard of Oz, and
we just had a listener call up whose grandmother's uncle
was one of the three ten men who got sick
from the makeup. I don't know, so you know the story.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So then so we had several people text in about
your podcast about Wizard of Oz and all the weird
shenanigans going on in the background, and so that brought
me to call you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That was what, Yeah, that was an odd one. I
mean there was a lot. That was one of the
hardest movies for people to make because back you know,
it was in color, and that was one of the
early early color movies. But in order to make the
colors show up and to film it that way, the
set was it was like one hundred over one hundred degrees.
(07:31):
So you had makeup that was making people sick, you
had people that were badly injured during the making of it,
and then of course you had this incredibly I mean,
there were a lot of people that got. Really It's
funny because you know, I think today there'd be more
lawsuits and there'd be more people screaming about it, and
everybody was like, no, we're going to make this movie, right,
and so everybody just put up with it. But yeah,
(07:53):
it was it was a terrible set to work on
for that reason.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And also we heard that Lulabe Mayer was a little
hansy well yeah, you know, and and also Judy Garland
was all hopped up on all sorts of pills and shots.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And oh yeah, I mean she was a kid. First
of all. She was a kid that was kind of voluptuous,
and so they didn't want her to have breasts because
they want her to look like a little girl, and
so they wrapped her very tightly. Yeah, her boobs were
like squished into her chest. And then they were like
worried about her weight and so and she was, you know,
(08:35):
she was a kid. Kids grow and sometimes they get
a little heavier at some point in their lives, you know,
and that was what it was happening to her. So
they just kept her on all kinds of drugs and
anything they could to keep her working as many hours
as they could possibly keep her making and also kept
her from eating. Wow, it was really yeah. She never
(08:58):
I mean she never really recovered from the making of
that film. She was, you know, an addict her entire life,
and her mother, of course encouraged the whole thing because
her mother wanted she was the ultimate stage mother. You know.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So, I mean when you did all the research for
this this this episode in the backstory with Patty Steele,
did it make you look at this film a little differently?
I mean, do you I feel kind of dirty watching it?
I mean, or you feel like you should watch it
because they put all this effort into it, including people
who are.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Dying if you if you stop and look, and it's
kind of a it's kind of an interesting thing because
there's so much great art that was put out by
such a really crazy, not really great people. I mean,
there was that goes back thousands of years. Sometimes people
(09:48):
who are artists are are really crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
W have you have you heard Dandie's podcast? Yeah, Well.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
That's a that's the thing. I mean, art comes from
minds that don't work always the same way that the
rest of our minds work, and sometimes they're not really
great people. And so you see that, you know, both
with people who do beautiful painting and musicians. I mean,
(10:19):
it's funny because I've read stuff. I was actually looking
at Charles Dickens. You know, we all dick and tell
you know, Christmas Care, all that kind of stuff. He
treated his wife. I was not going to say a
nice word. He treated his wife like crap, and she
eventually she eventually dumped her and she died in just
(10:43):
complete obscurity and poverty.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This is a satisfy.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You have somebody like Mark Gives, somebody like Mark Twain
who was so madly in love with his wife. He
says that everything he ever created is because of her,
because he inspired him and he just I mean, she
was everything in the world to So you do have that.
I mean you have that. Look at the podcast we
(11:13):
did about Frank Lloyd Wright. Wow, and what a wacko
that guy was, and all the strange things that happened
in his life, you know, the murders.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
In the house, and he.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Left his he left his wife and kids and moved
in with this woman and she was murdered in his
house with people in the house. And then within nine
weeks of her death, he was living with a woman
who'd written him a really great letter about as far
as she was for him. You know, it's people, unfortunately,
and it's not always just artistic people. There are a
(11:50):
lot of just very non artistic people who are creeps too.
But you know, mine's work in unusual.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, as you listen to does I know we're all
a little whacked out as you listen to our friend
Patty still talk about this. This is why her podcast
is so loved. It's called The Backstory with Patty Steele.
I know we have to run here, but what what's
your what's your latest podcast that's out the episode?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
If you can recall, Oh, you're asking me, let's see
what do we put out this time?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So many?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Oh god, how terrible is that that? I can't think
of it at this moment.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Okay, we'll figure it out, but it is.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
That's what happens. And you call me up and say
you're on the air and.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just one nute, I know that. Sorry, you know what
we don't plan. So it is the Backstory with Patty Steele,
just listening to her voice and tell telling these stories,
stories about things you thought you knew but you didn't, yeh.
And I love that. Thank you. Patty, thanks for coming
onto the show.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
What the latest podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Is, Yeah, I'm gonna let you know. It's okay, it's
the fall of Blockbuster.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Oh oh, that's an interesting story. I mean the guy
at Blockbusters. The guys at Blockbuster were multi billion dollar
company and when Netflix came along and said, you know, hey,
we think you might want to approach it this way,
they were like, you're out of your mind. The Infide's
not going anywhere. It's a fadow.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And there you go, one of the many stories on
the backstory with Patty Steal. We love you. Thank you, Patty,
have a beautiful day to day.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Okay, thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Okay, by I love Patty. Awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I wonder know if there's a book she read to
do the research for the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
But I'll text her, Yeah, text her.
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