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October 3, 2025 15 mins

We found out that your peak level of intelligence is at 55-60 years old, so we discuss the human mind!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
So let's talk about the human mind. Shall we? We
all have one, some of us more or less than others, right, yeah,
pretty much. Yeah, if the functioning of the human brain,
the human brain, you know, where would we be without it?
Let's think it through people. I mean, because of the brain,
we do things that we don't even control, like heartbeats, breathing, seeing,

(00:26):
things like that. But we also have things that we
wish we could control but we can't, including the mind,
our personality, our intelligence. So there's a magazine or a
journal actually called Intelligence. They're talking about the human mind
and what happens as we age. So if this doesn't
apply to you as you're aging, it applies to someone

(00:48):
in your life, maybe your parents, or your close friends,
or someone you work with that's a good friend who
is approaching the age of sixty and going beyond yours,
truly right in that wheelhouse. So let's talk about it.
They say that after psychological research for many decades, there's
patterns going on here. The functioning of the human brain

(01:08):
reaches its peak between the ages of fifty five and sixty.
So think of that person if not you, someone in
your life that's right in that that five year span, okay,
fifty five to sixty and this just on average, This
is not everyone. Okay. So there's different types of intelligence.
We were talking about this fascinating. There's fluid intelligence, which

(01:30):
is reasoning, like your memory, how far back you can
remember things and how fast you can process things in
your mind already there like memories that team seems to
peak in your early twenties and then it starts fading.
Oh wow. So the saying when you're in your early twenties,
your memory is boom, it's there, and how you process
things you've seen and experienced boom, while it recalls immediately

(01:54):
without hesitation. But just like a phone that's bogged down
and losing its memory, the mind is the same thing.
It takes a little longer to pull up a certain
app or two on your phone. The older you get,
your brain acts the same way. Is that probably a
good way to describe it, Gandhi?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I think so. I also think you know, the older
you get, the more memories you have. So when you're
forty you have twice the lifespan that you had when
you were twenty. So of course it's going to take
longer for you to pull up that file than it
was when you were twenty years old.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I guess it's safe to say the more photos you
have in your phone, the slower your your apps are
going to work.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, What is the reason that there's certain memories that
you can recall so vividly still, but then other ones
you have no freakin idea?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Don't know. I don't know. We can assume I don't know.
Maybe it was such a powerful event that happened when
the memory was formed. I guess that it affected you
emotionally in a someta way. It affected you in more
than just something to remember. It affected the way you
thought and you felt, and it resonated with you for

(02:56):
several days, maybe like something tragic or something really fun
that happened. Maybe it has a deeper filing file in there.
I don't know. Maybe maybe.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
They also say that memories aren't stored equally in the brain.
So depending on what mood you were in when that
thing was happening, If you were stressed out, you're more
likely to forget something. If you were in a really happy,
receptive place, you're more likely to remember something. Yeah, so
I think that all that goes into it.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
God, you know what, you just hit a button with me,
both of you. I was like, Okay, what's a great memory?
I probably am. I'm not recalling that I should because
it was such a great moment. Then you can't recall
it because it's gone. You can't remember what you don't remember.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
So I love when I recall something much differently than
like my say my husband, and he'll go, but wait,
that's not how it happened.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm like, yeah, that's how I remember it. Like that's
so add that to the whole list of reasons why
you will or will not remember things, right. It's different
sets of eyes, all right. So that's fluid intelligence. It
peaks in the early twenties and then it fades steadily
crystallized and intelligence. I love this one. No matter how
old you get, they say, you still accumulate knowledge and experience.

(04:07):
You build that for decades, you're good. So as you
get older and older and maybe things in the brain
are swing down your experiences in life, they still build
that knowledge. You learning new things. That's why Gandhi and
a lot of scientists tell you always be learning, no
matter how young or old, you are learn new things, right.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Absolutely. I think so many people just stop when they
leave school, and you're like, no, no, no, that's a
way for you to just atrophy. There's so much out
there to keep learning.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
We're so fast to roll into our professional lives and
just okay, I worked all day nine to five. I'm home.
I'm ready to relax and not do anything. Well, that's
not good personality traits. They mature and increase through early adulthood,
and then they level off later in life. Your personality
traits like your emotional stability, ability to keep calm under stress,

(04:59):
those are learned things. Sometimes you know, you get under
stressful situations, you know you can think it through and go, okay,
I can deal in reason with this. And when there's
when you're older, not as easy, they're.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Saying, okay. I think it's the opposite. Sometimes. I think
that things that stressed you out when you were a
little bit younger don't stress you out as much as
you get older, because you realize that maybe life is
short and there's no need to stress over some stupid stuff.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, I don't know if this is exactly I think
that that hits on this, This hits on that. You know,
that's kind of funny about all these different personality traits.
They kind of melt into each other a little bit.
Moral reasoning, the ability to weigh competing principles that deepens
with your experience in your life, producing sounder judgments about
fairness and duty. That continues, as I'm reading this, to

(05:49):
increase and get better for you, hopefully as you age.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Do you feel like that applies to you, Like, do
you think that as you have grown up, you feel
like you have more morals and that you implement a
more you know, moralistic lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I guess I believe that. I believe that all the
morals that I was wired with and I learned as
a child from my parents and my surroundings, I still
hang onto those, But I do think they're deeply, more
deeply ingrained with me. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I get torn because there's some stuff, you know, my
parents they beat it into my head this is this
is the way it is. And then there's and I
carry that with me. But then as you grow up
and you look at the world around you, and maybe
you notice a bunch of other people not following the
same thing. Sometimes it makes you think, huh, should I
should I keep living this way if nobody else is,
am I putting myself at a disadvantage? I always wonder

(06:43):
about that stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't know though, the ability to weigh competing principles
producing sound or judgments with fairness and duty. As you ate,
I can see that could be a conflict as well.
Froggy was shaking his head.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
No on that, because because there are certain things that
I know that we're instilled. For example, and I lived
in North Carolina when I was a young kid. There
were things there that were totally different when I moved
to Florida, and then you learn a different way, and
you learn a different people do things differently in different
parts of the country. Yeah, And so I believe that
that's another reason that going other places and seeing other
ways that things are done, and meeting people from different

(07:17):
cultures is so important because it teaches you different than
just the little place that you lived. It feels like
your whole life, but yet there's so much more out there.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You've got to be open minded about it too, because
so many people are closed minded and they think, like, Nope, my.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Way I've always done, I've always done it this way. Well,
maybe that's not the right way.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Here's one they hit on that definitely, they say anyway
phages with age. Cognitive flexibility. That's the ability to the
ability to shift smoothly between tasks and strategies when circumstances change.
And then there's the cognitive empathy. Cognitive empathy the ability

(07:57):
to get what others are thinking. Okay, so how many
times have you been hanging out with your parents, your grandparents,
or me? And oh, one of that Elvis. He is
set in his ways. Even though you throw a whole
different world of possibilities in front of me, I'm still
gonna do it that same way that I'm accustomed to doing,
and I don't grow with it. The brain as you

(08:17):
age does not allow you or promote these things to
change and to bend right one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's why my dad's out here calling Apple for help.
I'm like, why are you calling? You can google it,
you can look up so many different things. But he's
so hardwired to have called somebody and talk to a
human that it's so hard for him to just adjust
to a new way. I don't think older people are
unable to do things I think they're unwilling.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Oh my gosh, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I have this conversation with my mom all the time
because my mom is very smart. She's seventy six, she's
you know, she's very She's out there in the world
doing more things than I do. She's just so damn stubborn.
Like I'll say to her, Ma, I showed you five
times had to return on Amazon, and she's like, Danny,
I don't remember. She's full of craps. She played the

(09:06):
damsel in distress all exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
She knows I'm going to do it for her.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Uncle Johnny did the same thing in his late last year. Yeah,
he could easily do these things for himself or at
least figure out how to through logic, fix them, and
he wouldn't do it. He had to have someone come
over and do it. And we just wrote that off
as him just being lonely and he wants people to
come over and fixes his vacuum cleaner or whatever. Right, Scotty,
But you know the mind does that, Okay. So inclosing

(09:33):
on this article, anyway, throughout middle age, the gains more
than offset the losses. As you get older, you are
gaining knowledge, you are gaining experiences, and that outweighs your
ability to be as speedy as you used to be.
The late fifties emerge as the sweet spot. That's the
point when hard won wisdom compensates for dwindling speed. But

(09:56):
it's downhill from there. So there you go knowing that
you know, being in my sixties, and anyone in your
life who's approaching the sixties in that sixty mark, let
them know. You need to be out there learning things
your life. You may not be able to run as fast,
and you know it may take an extra second to
stand upway for sitting on the floor. Does it keep

(10:18):
you from out there learning? Because your mind is still
making space for new feelings, new things that will always
be with you in your heart, and of course being
with friends and being with friends and letting them titillate
your brain, you know. Yeah, scary. I feel like the
more I learned, the more I forget.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I can't remember current things, but then I have these
crystallized versions of things that I that I did years ago,
and I'm like, I keep accessing all this stuff from
all back then.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, but what about now?

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I'm learning so much every single day, But then I'm like, oh,
I can't, I can't remember that.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Isn't that a thing with Alzheimer's though, Elvis, because I remember, well,
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Want to say that. I didn't want to I didn't
want to go tell Scary he has a dementia.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Of go ahead, It's but I'm just saying, like I
remember my grandmother, like not remembering anything now, but she
would tell me stories of things that happened twenty twenty
five years ago, saying with my mom, she knew them
like they were, you know, right in front of her.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's a short term memory thing. Yeah, my mom could
she could, as I've told you, she could actually recite Chaucer.
Oh wow, wow, I mean tons of Chaucer. She could
recite it. But she couldn't tell you what she had
for lunch ten minutes ago. So that's just short term everything. Scary,
We're not diagnosing you as dementia.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I think, well, this two has to do with you know, like,
obviously we can do everything we can do, and you're
all the things you're talking about, Elvis are with a
healthy functioning brain. But when you also add into it
what we're doing to ourselves as we get older and
just with the climate around us, you're not exercising, and
you're consuming a ton of sugar. Those things directly impact
your mind and your ability to absorb and retain things also,

(11:58):
so maybe scary and.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, a little cardio wouldn't hurt a scary cardio.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
This shots of candy.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I don't know if that's great for him. Yeah, I
don't know. Yeah, Froggy, what's up?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
You know, I'm in my last month of my forties now,
and I realized that I can remember lyrics to a
rap song from like nineteen eighty four, no problems, But
I can get up to go to the kitchen and
forget what the hell I was going to get well
four seconds ago.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Explain that to me, Well, it sort of earlier when
we were talking. People in their early twenties or at
the peak their minds are at peak form as far
as learning new things. That's why if you want to
teach someone a new language, do it when they're at
seven years old. Yeah, right, Because when I tried to
brush up on my my Italian, I met Italyan, my

(12:47):
Italian before I go, you know, Italy whatever, it's more
difficult for me and I recognize it. I see it
clearly because I remember, you know, twenty thirty years ago,
when I started going to Italy, I could I could
be ready to get off the plane and have conversations.
I can't do that anymore. It takes more time. So
maybe that's why you know.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
It's hard to watch it with your with your parents.
Like I'll go to my parents' house and help my
dad do something, and I'll and he'll say, to be
handing your help, and so I help him, and then
I look over and he's got a tear running down
his face. I'm like, what's wrong. He's like I used
to be able to do this on my own, and
I feel terrible for him.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, and I'll say something, and you can actually have
this conversation with your parents, maybe depending on where their
brain is and where how they're doing. There are moments
in every day of mine. I'll try to recall something
that I know. I know, I just can't recall it,
you know. And you know, I've talked to many doctors
about it, and they're like, look, you know, this happens
as you age, It will happen faster with some people.

(13:40):
Maybe you doesn't mean it doesn't mean it's curtains, doesn't
mean that at all. But this is naturally what the
brain does. And if you're listening to us right now
in your twenties and thirties, you're like, I don't understand.
I can't even relate to this conversation. Well you will
one day, but you can today. If you think about
the people in your life that are in their sixties
and seventies or maybe more, and you wonder why they're

(14:01):
a little slow in recalling things. The memories are all there,
your brain has them. It's the recalling of these things
which is the struggle. Yeah, and so that's where we are.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Part I think part of the recall too, and just
the memory making in general also gets really impacted by
the scrolling constantly, the streaming constantly, and the short form
videos like we've talked about this not too long ago,
but scientists and researchers are saying that impacts your brain
five times more than anything else that you're doing. So
by us constantly consuming this nonsense, we're also hurting our memory.

(14:34):
So put it down.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Read a book, all right, read a book. Do some cardio. Scary,
let's do some cardio today. We can read books while
doing cardio we can. I'm not getting on that rower.
I've seen him on the rower. The roller is bad.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Why is it bad? And that that fan bike, the
bike with the.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Fanling see I love Okay, So I'm usually doing arms
while Scary's on the fan bike. I love it because
the fans right next to me. It blows cool air
towards me. But I don't look up because every once
one he'll sweat down onto the fan. It'll blow his
sweat at me. It's really a good
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