April 24, 2024 • 17 mins
Grammy award winning superstar Dua Lipa talks her new album, Radical Optimism, out May 3rd!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In the Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Show, do Alipah on the way. You know, I have
almost mastered the dance that she performed at the Grammys. Really,
it's all over TikTok. All the kids are doing it.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Please do it when she's here.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No, no, I'm not. I'm not there yet. I'm close. I'm
very close. Anyway, do Alipa on the way. She had
a tattoo the other day. I ask her where she
got her tattoo. We've got all the deep probing questions
coming up, and here she is.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Okay, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy to.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Be New York City. Traffic sucks, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It be bananas? But I'm here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We're saying it to do it. And if you come
to New York you know what we're talking about. If
you're if you're running early, then you're like, why did
we leave the hotel so early? If you're running lates like,
there is no happy media and welcome to we call
it home.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm very happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's very interesting because when your first album came out,
what year was that seventeen Okay, and that's when you're
getting that getting that motion going right. Second album Pandemic, Yes,
but we still loved it. This the third album, this
is like okay, there's no excuses, there's no way you
(01:26):
can't hide no, and it sounds so awesome. How proud
of are you of your album?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thank you? Yeah, I'm really proud.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And also is it it's like a new experience, you know,
doing I don't know, the promotion side of things in
a completely different way. It's like, oh, I can actually
go out there and see the fans and hang out
and do shows and things that I didn't have the
opportunity to do with the last record until two years
after it was released. Right, So this is like it's
(01:55):
it's new stomping ground. I love it, really happy.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It is stomping. It's boots on the ground. Man, you're running.
I mean, is it to the point now you're like,
whoa is this? Is this?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
This is like? Forevermore?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's a lot of work, it's a lot, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm just it feels like such a release Now as
we're getting closer and closer to the album coming out,
it just feels surreal.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know when you were.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Sorry when you originally started writing, didn't you go into
CVS and buy like a notebook and then the songs
in it because you love CVS or something out of story?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, yes, I definitely love CVS. I feel like I
got it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I end up going to CVS and just buying a
lot of random stuff I don't need. I think that's
really what happens with most of.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
My CVS halls.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But I really needed a notebook, like I just needed
somewhere to write down my ideas. I didn't realize how
important that notebook when it ended up becoming. I was like,
I'm going into the studio, I need a notebook, And
it ended up becoming this like relic almost all my
all my words and my lyrics and stories and stuff
for everything that I've written for this album.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So lock it up. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Know every artist we have and we love asking about
the writing process. So yours is a CVOUS notebook. A
lot of people use voice notes on the phone.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I do voice notes too, But I think I
wanted to get off my phone as much as possible
because I spend so much time on it that I
was like I just want to put pen to paper
and kind of see the words. And it was just
a new, I don't know, experience, and I loved having something,
you know, to hold and to read and to see
if really felt like a diary that I it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Won't disappear in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Definitely not now I have it like I have it,
you know, photocoffeed and save very good, you know, scanned
and I you know, so nothing will happen to have.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You've been very busy to us. So the Grammy performance,
which was unbelievable than you have you been to tiktalk.
Have you seen all of the dances everyone's learning, because
that dance was fierce. You have to agree, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
In heels, in heels, you got to You've got to
give it some like sass thing and I feel like
in heels, I just moved back right. But I think
it was really one of my dances as he had
take took my mic and he goes, let's go. That
was like the hype excitement part that everyone kind of
latched onto and then they're like, all right, let's recreate
(04:17):
the dance routine. But it was just so much fun.
We had such a blast putting that together.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Did you see kiky Boots the musical? You've seen the
kinky boots? Haven't you long the tall red boots with
a high fierce heel. Maybe pull up a picture. So
at night I go home, I closed, I closed the blinds.
I pull on my kinky boots. I'm almost halfway done
learning your dance. And when it's done, did you do
a video?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, no, come on, he actually has them. I gotta
see it. I gotta see it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You didn't go with that grindmy station until you already,
I will not show you my kiky grindy dance. So
you were you were with Stef Myers and you got
a tattoo?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Were you really day drinking with Seth Myers?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I not only as I day drinking, I got blackout?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Okay, good? What was your cocktail of choice? I forgot?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, unfortunately, it was like an involuntary cocktail of rum, vodka, gin, tequila,
oh my god, and all of the above. It was
a blast. We had the best time, but I should
have paced myself.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I was like, I was like, I can handle this,
I can drink and it kind of backfir it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Looks like a fun day. But hitting a tattoo? Yeah,
is this your first tattoo?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, okay, it's my twenty Okay, whoaw. I got a couple,
but they're all quite small, so I have lots on
my hands and my arm wasn't looking.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm still I'm almost sixty years old. I still don't
have my first tattoo because I can't make up my mind.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But don't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I want to do it. I want to do.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's cooler without No.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, because now I've like started, so I might as
well carry on. But if you don't have any, it's
almost like more rare not to have any, So I
wouldn't even stop.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I just want one. You don't look at my boob,
so my boob start to fall toward the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Kinky boobs?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Why not? Yeah, let's get to the music.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So here you are, if you're in the business or
if you're not, just understand this is the promotion time
where we have this album. We have this music we
want to share with the world. So we're going to
travel to every corner of the earth to make sure
everyone understands this this album. What is the album talk,
I mean talk about radical optimism. What is it? I
know that's a stupid kind of broad based question.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, radical optimism, to me is a term that was
introduced to a friend of mine and it basically resonated
with me through the whole time I was writing the record,
which is about resilience.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's about rolling with the punches.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's about when things don't go your way of keeping
like an optimistic mindset. It's thinking about when something goes wrong,
how you feel like a week later, a month later,
and you look at things in hindsight or with perspective
and you go, oh, like, I can't believe I was
that worried about this thing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You know, it's over, it's done, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I think with that in mind, that kind of
helps to have a more positive and optimistic approach that
when things are bad, they're not going to be bad
for forever. And having that kind of ideology in your
mind makes all the bad things okay because you know
that you just have to get through them. That's how
you learn, that's how you grow. It's outside your comfort
(07:39):
zone where you progress. And that's kind of the radical
optimism that I feel like we all need in life
to just keep it moving.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
You have an advantage of musicians who put albums out
having advantage over the rest of us who don't, and
that is being able to chronicle where you were in life.
For instance, you were not the same du Alipa as
you were when you did your first album. You're not
even the same du A Leipa you were when you
when you did Radical Optimism. You you have changed.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You're what I'm saying, I've grown so much.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So you can look you can look at your body
of work and goes, that's where I was then, I'm
not there anymore. I'm a different woman.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Now, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I think I look at it fondly because it's
like a time capstule of a point in my life
where I was, and it's nice to look back at
it and be like, oh, I've grown so much from
that point to where I am now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I guess that's the that's the fun of it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I read that not only are you having fun with
this tour because now you were these promotional tours that
you're doing now and going out and talking to people,
but that you also have a book club. I do,
And I find this fascinating do you actually read the
books or do you listen to audible?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, I read, you read them?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, I love, I love I think maybe it's again
the thing like the notebook, Like I love to have
the physical copy and it's just so fun. I love
when like, I love when a book's like really like.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
No idea, you are touching like such a special part
of my life. I have read what was I telling
you today? Seven fourteen books since January.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh wow, amazing.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
And I have to have the physical copy as well.
I was an audible too, but because I like to
pass them on like they're my babies.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
To be can I love it?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I would like you to experience this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Here you go. I love this so much. Yeah, yeah,
I feel Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And I would imagine that reading so much also helps
you in the writing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Process one thousand percent. I think it just expands your vocabulary.
And also just like your train of thought, your perspective,
you understand emotions in a completely different way, even things
that you haven't been through. You kind of see it
from someone else's eyes and it's yeah, it's moving.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Do you gravitate toward autobiographies or literature or trashy novels?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And no, I love fiction, okay, mainly.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Something that I read recently that I loved so much
was Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders, and it's
just so quirky and interesting in the way that it's
written is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Just useful.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It takes a second to kind of get into the
voice of it. But I think you'd like it. If you,
Oh yeah, just love to read a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You should. You should give it a go.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's the kind of book that you should sip through
and read it in two sittings. But it's yeah, I
love fiction because I love to dive into a different world.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And when you said the title, a lot of people
listening going, oh my god, leave the lea clap, the
double clap, the double class.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I know that it.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Is, but I said, there is there could be a
problem if you're doing a big concert in a sold
out arena and rather than standing up an applauding at
the end of a song, they just stand up and
go and then.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Then that's it. I'm just like, I get it, but
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm in, I'm in. Are you having fun?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm having the most fun.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What's the most fun about this? I know that may
be a stupid question, but in the answer will work.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's just exciting. Every new experience is so fun. And
you know, since I've been able to talk about the
album title and like start releasing titles of the songs
and stuff, it's just been so freeing because I can
really explain what everything's been about. I think in the beginning,
when I'm just releasing singles and trying to keep everything secret,
that's so hard to talk in code.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So now I'm like it is, it's coming.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
A lot of text are coming through. Do it presents
the best shows. Most of the artists these days just
sing and run across the stage. You dancers, choreography, everything amazing,
love do I just watched Argyle You can do it All?
How much fun was Argyle?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh, it was so much fun, so much fun. I
loved being on set. It was, yeah, again an experience
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What to expect from, and everyone was lovely.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I worked a lot with Henry Cavill and John Cena
and my parts, and they were so lovely and generous
with their time and just like patient with me while
I just kind of figured it.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Out on the job, and it was it was really fun.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It was so it was like reading a great book.
Obviously our guy was. It was just it was just
so beautifully done. I'm just blown away at the imagination
and the creativity that people have because you start watching
arg I'm not gonna give anything away if you haven't
seen it, you start watching it and they're like, whoa
where are we going?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So it's all who when it's such a ride?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I guess that's like the that's the Matthew Vaughan
right mind.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, there's there's just.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Like lots of ideas and it's it's it's very much
his thing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Now you do take time to read books? Do you
do you watch film?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I do watch film, Yeah, but I prefer to read.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Oh gosh, I love her more and more.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
The Gentleman.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh, yes, I've seen I've seen the film, but I
haven't seen the series.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Oh it's so good.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
God, it's really good. I love it, Guy Richie. Yeah,
it was so good.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Is there a book that you've read that you just think,
oh my god, when and if this becomes a film,
I got to be part of it. Oh, let's make
it happen right now, speak it into existence.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I don't know about like being in it. I would
love to, like maybe be in the behind the scenes.
I'm a really big fan of the author Douglas Stewart,
and he wrote this incredible book called Chuggy Bain, And
I mean I kind of know that that one's in
the works. Oh, I'd love to like maybe make music
for it, get involved somehow for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Do you love being a redhead? And how much die
do you see in the shower?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I love being a redhead. The maintenance is a nightmare.
It does look like I've murdered someone every time I
get into the shower, usually on the first wash, and
then it kind.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Of calms down. But I love it. I don't know.
I have a lot of fun being a red head.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Nice How often do you have to keep up with it?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I have to die every like week and a half
to just kind of give it a g.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The payoffice is very strong.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I'm gonna go back to something you were talking about
a second ago about how life is basically paraphrasing life
is just full of adventures, trying new things, doing doing
exciting things. On your promotional tour, this and that. I'm
thinking of someone in their car in traffic going to
work right now, going gosh, how can that I apply
(14:31):
a life like that to me. Let's say you don't
have choreographers and you don't have Grammy performances, you don't
have a life full of studio recording sessions and writing sessions,
but you have a life where you, you know, whatever
your life is, there's got to be a way that
any of us can have the dua leap of life
where we are experiencing new things. How do you like
(14:53):
scratch the surface with like diving into things that are
almost frightening because they're so so new and different.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I think it's easy.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I think it really just starts, like you just have
to stop by saying yes, you know. I think whether
it's trying a new restaurant and eating something that you
probably wouldn't do before, like that already is like diving
into the deep end and something maybe that you wouldn't
have thought you would have done before. I think you
can find different things exploring a new part of town,
(15:25):
a new bookstore, a new film, and new like there's
so many different ways to kind of include that discovery
into your life, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's scary though, I mean to show up on set
at Argyle to Argyle. Were you a little nervous?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, or you just definitely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But I get nervous for even like my my everyday
job that I think I'm good at. You know, I'm like,
I get so nervous because I want to be I
want to be really good at it, and I want
to like be precise or like deliberate with my actions
or you know, make sure that I give a hundred
and ten percent of what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So when I'm going into something where.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Really I'm on like shaky ground on my my like
my feet are dangling off the edges, I like to
kind of call it where it scares me, where I'm
out of my comfort zone, then of course I'm much
more nervous.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I'm willing and ready to just kind of learn.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So anyone in life can do this. And that's the
magic thing. Can I always say they get tourned to
me saying the same thing over and over. But there
is such a thin thin line between fright and excitement, right,
and it's good to be have that courage to go, Okay,
you know, I'm gonna do a pottery class. I'm going
to try to make a vase. It's gonna look like
a misshapen penis, but I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But it's true because you have to like for me,
for example, like I know, I can't draw, I can't paint.
I can't that's like stick people at the very best too.
But I would like throw myself into the experience and
just be like, all right, this is gonna look terrible,
but it's it's you just got to do it, you know,
just jump into it courage. So the postery thing is
(17:03):
a perfect example. I haven't done that yet. I'm too scared,
and I should.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's a lot of misshaped penises. Morning for a friend,
we do a thank you for coming in here to
do having of course radical optimism, it's not it's more
than just a bunch of music on an album. It's
a lot of work. It's a lot of taking chances.
It's the feel and texture of different sounds with different collaborations.
I mean, there's so much more that goes into these
(17:28):
things than we all then we know that we were
aware of, and that's why it's important on this tour
that you remind everyone of what goes into this album.
It's so cool a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Dude. Thanks all right, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
D Hey, what's up? This is a Justin Bieber here. Hi,
this is Elton John. This is Britney's Fears Elvis in
the Morning Show
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In the Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Show, do Alipah on the way. You know, I have
almost mastered the dance that she performed at the Grammys. Really,
it's all over TikTok. All the kids are doing it.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Please do it when she's here.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No, no, I'm not. I'm not there yet. I'm close. I'm
very close. Anyway, do Alipa on the way. She had
a tattoo the other day. I ask her where she
got her tattoo. We've got all the deep probing questions
coming up, and here she is.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Okay, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy to.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Be New York City. Traffic sucks, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It be bananas? But I'm here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We're saying it to do it. And if you come
to New York you know what we're talking about. If
you're if you're running early, then you're like, why did
we leave the hotel so early? If you're running lates like,
there is no happy media and welcome to we call
it home.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm very happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's very interesting because when your first album came out,
what year was that seventeen Okay, and that's when you're
getting that getting that motion going right. Second album Pandemic, Yes,
but we still loved it. This the third album, this
is like okay, there's no excuses, there's no way you
(01:26):
can't hide no, and it sounds so awesome. How proud
of are you of your album?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thank you? Yeah, I'm really proud.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And also is it it's like a new experience, you know,
doing I don't know, the promotion side of things in
a completely different way. It's like, oh, I can actually
go out there and see the fans and hang out
and do shows and things that I didn't have the
opportunity to do with the last record until two years
after it was released. Right, So this is like it's
(01:55):
it's new stomping ground. I love it, really happy.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It is stomping. It's boots on the ground. Man, you're running.
I mean, is it to the point now you're like,
whoa is this? Is this?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
This is like? Forevermore?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's a lot of work, it's a lot, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm just it feels like such a release Now as
we're getting closer and closer to the album coming out,
it just feels surreal.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know when you were.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Sorry when you originally started writing, didn't you go into
CVS and buy like a notebook and then the songs
in it because you love CVS or something out of story?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, yes, I definitely love CVS. I feel like I
got it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I end up going to CVS and just buying a
lot of random stuff I don't need. I think that's
really what happens with most of.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
My CVS halls.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But I really needed a notebook, like I just needed
somewhere to write down my ideas. I didn't realize how
important that notebook when it ended up becoming. I was like,
I'm going into the studio, I need a notebook, And
it ended up becoming this like relic almost all my
all my words and my lyrics and stories and stuff
for everything that I've written for this album.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So lock it up. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Know every artist we have and we love asking about
the writing process. So yours is a CVOUS notebook. A
lot of people use voice notes on the phone.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I do voice notes too, But I think I
wanted to get off my phone as much as possible
because I spend so much time on it that I
was like I just want to put pen to paper
and kind of see the words. And it was just
a new, I don't know, experience, and I loved having something,
you know, to hold and to read and to see
if really felt like a diary that I it.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Won't disappear in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Definitely not now I have it like I have it,
you know, photocoffeed and save very good, you know, scanned
and I you know, so nothing will happen to have.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You've been very busy to us. So the Grammy performance,
which was unbelievable than you have you been to tiktalk.
Have you seen all of the dances everyone's learning, because
that dance was fierce. You have to agree, thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
In heels, in heels, you got to You've got to
give it some like sass thing and I feel like
in heels, I just moved back right. But I think
it was really one of my dances as he had
take took my mic and he goes, let's go. That
was like the hype excitement part that everyone kind of
latched onto and then they're like, all right, let's recreate
(04:17):
the dance routine. But it was just so much fun.
We had such a blast putting that together.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Did you see kiky Boots the musical? You've seen the
kinky boots? Haven't you long the tall red boots with
a high fierce heel. Maybe pull up a picture. So
at night I go home, I closed, I closed the blinds.
I pull on my kinky boots. I'm almost halfway done
learning your dance. And when it's done, did you do
a video?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, no, come on, he actually has them. I gotta
see it. I gotta see it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You didn't go with that grindmy station until you already,
I will not show you my kiky grindy dance. So
you were you were with Stef Myers and you got
a tattoo?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Were you really day drinking with Seth Myers?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I not only as I day drinking, I got blackout?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Okay, good? What was your cocktail of choice? I forgot?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, unfortunately, it was like an involuntary cocktail of rum, vodka, gin, tequila,
oh my god, and all of the above. It was
a blast. We had the best time, but I should
have paced myself.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I was like, I was like, I can handle this,
I can drink and it kind of backfir it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Looks like a fun day. But hitting a tattoo? Yeah,
is this your first tattoo?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, okay, it's my twenty Okay, whoaw. I got a couple,
but they're all quite small, so I have lots on
my hands and my arm wasn't looking.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm still I'm almost sixty years old. I still don't
have my first tattoo because I can't make up my mind.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But don't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I want to do it. I want to do.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It's cooler without No.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, because now I've like started, so I might as
well carry on. But if you don't have any, it's
almost like more rare not to have any, So I
wouldn't even stop.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I just want one. You don't look at my boob,
so my boob start to fall toward the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Kinky boobs?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Why not? Yeah, let's get to the music.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So here you are, if you're in the business or
if you're not, just understand this is the promotion time
where we have this album. We have this music we
want to share with the world. So we're going to
travel to every corner of the earth to make sure
everyone understands this this album. What is the album talk,
I mean talk about radical optimism. What is it? I
know that's a stupid kind of broad based question.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, radical optimism, to me is a term that was
introduced to a friend of mine and it basically resonated
with me through the whole time I was writing the record,
which is about resilience.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's about rolling with the punches.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's about when things don't go your way of keeping
like an optimistic mindset. It's thinking about when something goes wrong,
how you feel like a week later, a month later,
and you look at things in hindsight or with perspective
and you go, oh, like, I can't believe I was
that worried about this thing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You know, it's over, it's done, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I think with that in mind, that kind of
helps to have a more positive and optimistic approach that
when things are bad, they're not going to be bad
for forever. And having that kind of ideology in your
mind makes all the bad things okay because you know
that you just have to get through them. That's how
you learn, that's how you grow. It's outside your comfort
(07:39):
zone where you progress. And that's kind of the radical
optimism that I feel like we all need in life
to just keep it moving.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
You have an advantage of musicians who put albums out
having advantage over the rest of us who don't, and
that is being able to chronicle where you were in life.
For instance, you were not the same du Alipa as
you were when you did your first album. You're not
even the same du A Leipa you were when you
when you did Radical Optimism. You you have changed.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You're what I'm saying, I've grown so much.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So you can look you can look at your body
of work and goes, that's where I was then, I'm
not there anymore. I'm a different woman.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Now, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I think I look at it fondly because it's
like a time capstule of a point in my life
where I was, and it's nice to look back at
it and be like, oh, I've grown so much from
that point to where I am now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I guess that's the that's the fun of it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I read that not only are you having fun with
this tour because now you were these promotional tours that
you're doing now and going out and talking to people,
but that you also have a book club. I do,
And I find this fascinating do you actually read the
books or do you listen to audible?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, I read, you read them?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, I love, I love I think maybe it's again
the thing like the notebook, Like I love to have
the physical copy and it's just so fun. I love
when like, I love when a book's like really like.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
No idea, you are touching like such a special part
of my life. I have read what was I telling
you today? Seven fourteen books since January.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh wow, amazing.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
And I have to have the physical copy as well.
I was an audible too, but because I like to
pass them on like they're my babies.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
To be can I love it?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I would like you to experience this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Here you go. I love this so much. Yeah, yeah,
I feel Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And I would imagine that reading so much also helps
you in the writing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Process one thousand percent. I think it just expands your vocabulary.
And also just like your train of thought, your perspective,
you understand emotions in a completely different way, even things
that you haven't been through. You kind of see it
from someone else's eyes and it's yeah, it's moving.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Do you gravitate toward autobiographies or literature or trashy novels?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And no, I love fiction, okay, mainly.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Something that I read recently that I loved so much
was Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders, and it's
just so quirky and interesting in the way that it's
written is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Just useful.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It takes a second to kind of get into the
voice of it. But I think you'd like it. If you,
Oh yeah, just love to read a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You should. You should give it a go.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's the kind of book that you should sip through
and read it in two sittings. But it's yeah, I
love fiction because I love to dive into a different world.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And when you said the title, a lot of people
listening going, oh my god, leave the lea clap, the
double clap, the double class.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I know that it.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Is, but I said, there is there could be a
problem if you're doing a big concert in a sold
out arena and rather than standing up an applauding at
the end of a song, they just stand up and
go and then.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Then that's it. I'm just like, I get it, but
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm in, I'm in. Are you having fun?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm having the most fun.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What's the most fun about this? I know that may
be a stupid question, but in the answer will work.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's just exciting. Every new experience is so fun. And
you know, since I've been able to talk about the
album title and like start releasing titles of the songs
and stuff, it's just been so freeing because I can
really explain what everything's been about. I think in the beginning,
when I'm just releasing singles and trying to keep everything secret,
that's so hard to talk in code.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So now I'm like it is, it's coming.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
A lot of text are coming through. Do it presents
the best shows. Most of the artists these days just
sing and run across the stage. You dancers, choreography, everything amazing,
love do I just watched Argyle You can do it All?
How much fun was Argyle?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh, it was so much fun, so much fun. I
loved being on set. It was, yeah, again an experience
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What to expect from, and everyone was lovely.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I worked a lot with Henry Cavill and John Cena
and my parts, and they were so lovely and generous
with their time and just like patient with me while
I just kind of figured it.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Out on the job, and it was it was really fun.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It was so it was like reading a great book.
Obviously our guy was. It was just it was just
so beautifully done. I'm just blown away at the imagination
and the creativity that people have because you start watching
arg I'm not gonna give anything away if you haven't
seen it, you start watching it and they're like, whoa
where are we going?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So it's all who when it's such a ride?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I guess that's like the that's the Matthew Vaughan
right mind.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, there's there's just.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Like lots of ideas and it's it's it's very much
his thing.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Now you do take time to read books? Do you
do you watch film?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I do watch film, Yeah, but I prefer to read.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Oh gosh, I love her more and more.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
The Gentleman.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Oh, yes, I've seen I've seen the film, but I
haven't seen the series.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Oh it's so good.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
God, it's really good. I love it, Guy Richie. Yeah,
it was so good.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Is there a book that you've read that you just think,
oh my god, when and if this becomes a film,
I got to be part of it. Oh, let's make
it happen right now, speak it into existence.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I don't know about like being in it. I would
love to, like maybe be in the behind the scenes.
I'm a really big fan of the author Douglas Stewart,
and he wrote this incredible book called Chuggy Bain, And
I mean I kind of know that that one's in
the works. Oh, I'd love to like maybe make music
for it, get involved somehow for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Do you love being a redhead? And how much die
do you see in the shower?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I love being a redhead. The maintenance is a nightmare.
It does look like I've murdered someone every time I
get into the shower, usually on the first wash, and
then it kind.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Of calms down. But I love it. I don't know.
I have a lot of fun being a red head.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Nice How often do you have to keep up with it?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I have to die every like week and a half
to just kind of give it a g.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The payoffice is very strong.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I'm gonna go back to something you were talking about
a second ago about how life is basically paraphrasing life
is just full of adventures, trying new things, doing doing
exciting things. On your promotional tour, this and that. I'm
thinking of someone in their car in traffic going to
work right now, going gosh, how can that I apply
(14:31):
a life like that to me. Let's say you don't
have choreographers and you don't have Grammy performances, you don't
have a life full of studio recording sessions and writing sessions,
but you have a life where you, you know, whatever
your life is, there's got to be a way that
any of us can have the dua leap of life
where we are experiencing new things. How do you like
(14:53):
scratch the surface with like diving into things that are
almost frightening because they're so so new and different.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I think it's easy.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I think it really just starts, like you just have
to stop by saying yes, you know. I think whether
it's trying a new restaurant and eating something that you
probably wouldn't do before, like that already is like diving
into the deep end and something maybe that you wouldn't
have thought you would have done before. I think you
can find different things exploring a new part of town,
(15:25):
a new bookstore, a new film, and new like there's
so many different ways to kind of include that discovery
into your life, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's scary though, I mean to show up on set
at Argyle to Argyle. Were you a little nervous?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, or you just definitely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But I get nervous for even like my my everyday
job that I think I'm good at. You know, I'm like,
I get so nervous because I want to be I
want to be really good at it, and I want
to like be precise or like deliberate with my actions
or you know, make sure that I give a hundred
and ten percent of what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So when I'm going into something where.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Really I'm on like shaky ground on my my like
my feet are dangling off the edges, I like to
kind of call it where it scares me, where I'm
out of my comfort zone, then of course I'm much
more nervous.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But I'm willing and ready to just kind of learn.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So anyone in life can do this. And that's the
magic thing. Can I always say they get tourned to
me saying the same thing over and over. But there
is such a thin thin line between fright and excitement, right,
and it's good to be have that courage to go, Okay,
you know, I'm gonna do a pottery class. I'm going
to try to make a vase. It's gonna look like
a misshapen penis, but I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But it's true because you have to like for me,
for example, like I know, I can't draw, I can't paint.
I can't that's like stick people at the very best too.
But I would like throw myself into the experience and
just be like, all right, this is gonna look terrible,
but it's it's you just got to do it, you know,
just jump into it courage. So the postery thing is
(17:03):
a perfect example. I haven't done that yet. I'm too scared,
and I should.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's a lot of misshaped penises. Morning for a friend,
we do a thank you for coming in here to
do having of course radical optimism, it's not it's more
than just a bunch of music on an album. It's
a lot of work. It's a lot of taking chances.
It's the feel and texture of different sounds with different collaborations.
I mean, there's so much more that goes into these
(17:28):
things than we all then we know that we were
aware of, and that's why it's important on this tour
that you remind everyone of what goes into this album.
It's so cool a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Dude. Thanks all right, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
D Hey, what's up? This is a Justin Bieber here. Hi,
this is Elton John. This is Britney's Fears Elvis in
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