In this episode, Bryce Paul interviews Hadley Stern, Chief Commercial Officer of Marinade Finance, a leading Solana staking platform. They discuss how Marinade enables decentralized staking, the evolution of staking in Solana versus Ethereum, the role of the MNDE token, institutional adoption, ETF strategies, and lessons Stern brought from his leadership at Fidelity Digital Assets. The conversation highlights liquid vs. native staking, decentralization benefits, yield sustainability, and the future of staking in both retail and institutional markets.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
02:27 – Why use a staking provider?
05:13 – The MNDE token explained
06:37 – CCO role & institutional focus
08:26 – ETFs & regulation
10:24 – Yield sustainability
12:07 – Native vs. liquid staking
14:48 – Looping & leverage risks
16:44 – MNDE value accrual
17:49 – Lessons from Fidelity & TradFi
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