Shandon and Judgeford are doing battle at Paraparaumu Beach Golf Club today to decide the 79th champions of the prestigious Duncan Cup.
Shandon are in pursuit of a record-equalling 18th title, while Judgeford is bidding for its first.
Adam Cooper was joined by Golf Wellington general manager Steve Weir, and experienced Shandon team member Matthew Lane to preview the final.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
News, soaks 'db on the Allsport Breakfast twenty five away
from nine. Let's talk local golf as we always do
around this time on a Saturday morning, and it is
a big day for the local golfing scene with the
seventy ninth Duncan Cup Final. This is to to sign
the champions of men's inter club for the season and
it is an interesting matchup Shandon who are one of
(00:20):
the more regular winners of the Duncan Cup. They're aiming
for a record equalling eighteenth title today. On the other
end of the scale, it's Judge Fit in the final
today who are seeking title number one for them. So
it's all teeing off around now at the patapata Umu
Beach Club. So great to be able to head out
there joining us as always as Golf Wellington general manager
(00:41):
Steve We're at alongside him, member of the Shandon club
looking for that record equalling eighteenth title. Matthew Lane, Good
morning to both of you. I understand it's looking beautiful
out there this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Matthew. How's the team all set to go for the
big final today?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, it started pretty bad for me, but I'm come
back already. Heard us the second week, I was going
to leave the team because I was letting them down.
I had an horrendous loss, and my manager called me up.
He said, well, you can't quit because if you quit,
everybody will quit. So I hung in there and did well,
and our team did well and win the o Techy Cup.
And now we're going into thirty six holes with the
(01:17):
Duncan Cup, which is better for us. Our team we
won our semi final about six weeks ago, and the
problem is but we might have lost our mojo a
little bit, but hopefully we'll get it back on track
at Paragram.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Why you feel you've lost the mojo? What's happened these
last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh, well, we haven't played just because of the schedule
of Easter and how it all worked out. The team
has tried to get together a couple of times, but
we were gone really well. But we'll see. We've all
been practicing, but judge for it, they've been all the
team's been practicing, but judge for it. Obviously played last
week and the parap Rams, who were the defending jemps.
(01:56):
So we'll see. Because thirty six holes, it's good for
me because it gives me eighteen holes to get my
mind cleared up of what's the thing I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Use for the day, Steve, this is a huge event
on the Golf Wellington calendar. It's obviously been there since
you know, the nineteen forties. Is it still the most
coveted prize in the local golfing scene do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Certainly the clubs and their players and those premier teams
think that's the case. It's yeah, it's well sought after.
Me and Shandon has been there earlier about for many years.
This would be Judge Ford's first title if they get
that up. So yeah, it's highly coveted and certainly in
the wider golfing dead landscape, it is the approphy with
(02:38):
the most years and the most story around its namer obviously,
Ads Duncan, so you one hundred percent, Adam?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And what about from a player's perspective, Matt, You've been
involved in different incarnations of the Shandon teams over the
years and over their successful years in this event as well.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What does it mean for you to be playing in
another final?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's been great. It's i think from the last maybe
four or five years. Pros that are a member of
a club that are not playing for a living or
allowed to play. So it's given me a whole new
lease of life to have a reason to practice. I
think I as part of the team three four years
ago that was thirty six years between drinks, so that
was pretty cool to win. We won the following year,
(03:19):
and then last year Paraporim win it. And this year
is the rematch from two years ago when we played Judgement.
But it's probably the most important thing on my calendar
each year when I start the season to play golf.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, I see Shannon's one. It's seventeen times going for
a record, equally eighteen times this year. You're part of
the winning sides. As you said in the eighties, can
you correlate similarities to how you've built that success across
you know, different eras of the Shannon team.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think Shannon always wins it. I hope you this
answer your question. From number six to ten, we're always
the strongest one in five. With most teams there's normally
like a fifty to fifty split, but we normally do
the best from six to ten, and I think that's
how we win the Duncan Cups.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And Steve Steve, can you just give us a bit
of an insight about Judge for you know, they've got
a couple of really good guys that that have been
performing on some of the national level tournaments, but quite
new in the space in terms of getting their name
on it on a Duncan Cup. Can you just give
us a bit of a run through of what sort
of built up Judge for success over these years.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Certainly under the leadership of Deon Bennett who's their captain
and Adam Church is obviously an experienced player captain of the
Wellington side for many years. A couple of really good
leaders by both words and examples there. They've had some
strong players join that team from other clubs in the
last couple of three years, which is the real attraction
of joining a successful club. And the two young boys
(04:44):
obviously the brothers we've talked about a little bit in
the past. Up he Rana especially who finished in the
top twentieth and his jelland stroke play and his younger
brother Wantu. So really good looking team and success breeds success.
They all worked pretty hard at their game and they'll
be aiming up at Shandon, who've had a similar style
of culture bringing young guys through and treating the player
(05:05):
as well and setting good, strong goals and just that
culture of success both teams, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, Matt, how's it working that are balancing out though
the new guys were with the experience and guys and
making sure you're all gelling as a team for big days.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Like today, It's going to be good.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like I played with Tray, I've helped Trey out with
his swing, so we get to spend the first four
hours in the morning. There's a few young guys that
I have over my place for a barbecue mid season.
We have a little talk Ryan Fagy, tom Aldridge and
Harry Allen Dyce. They're probably the future of Shandon Golf.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So it's in good hands. And then how can you contribute?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You' obviously got some coaching experience as well with a
lot of the REP teams and do a great job
with some of the programs. So do you is that
sort of part of your role within this team as well?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It is because the reason why I play at five
or six is I want like in our team Richard Peek,
Tray Shedlock, Ryan Fahie, Matt Peek to play others that
are in the same qualification for endo clubs, so then
when the guys pick the team, they know who they're
playing the games. And also when I play, it's always
good when I play with other players, so I have
feedback for the selectors on picking teams for the future.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Matt, Obviously the formats getting underway this morning, foursomes in
the morning, singles a bit later on. So from your experience,
what is key to negotiating the day.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, I've already talked to my partner. The great thing
now is we know what the weather condition is going
to be, we know what the winds conditions are going
to be, so we've all decided it's ultimate shots. So
I won't give up ten weague secrets, but we already
know who's teeing off the odds or the evens. I've
got a fair idea for myself what clubs are going
to put in the bag because of the wind direction.
(06:39):
I've played the course a lot, and we have a
great chat and we've gone over and we're going to
come up with a game plan. And the morning for me,
as I say, is good because I teach so much
and I think so much that when I actually played
golf for a living. I actually train myself and never
think I can get all the thoughts out and just
play golf in the afternoon and have fun.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And Steve tell us about the importance of the Patapatomi
Beach Course for this one, where we know it's has three.
We know it's extremely strong quality as a course. Lucky
to have it in our region obviously beg for me
able to have the final year again one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Were very fortunate that Pataparama are really open to hosting
event and that have a real event hosting I guess pedigree.
It's just a wonderful viewing. That's Number one, so all
the spectators supporters can see a lot of the action.
Number two is the strongest greens complex in our district
in terms of finding players out and it's a real test.
(07:34):
Obviously there's no trees out there anymore, and it's exposed
to the wind in some sense, so it's golf old soil,
I guess, but it's still top ranked hundred in the
top ranked hundred courses outside the US. It's just a
wonderful test and it just has so much history there
and it's got a great loop to finish thirteen through eighteen.
In every single hole, it is potential opportunity not to
(07:55):
win this Sardy by Birdie, but for certainly your opponents
to drop shots and they call it they're aiming corner
or their loop. But it certainly is so the perfect venue,
the perfectly.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
New and Matthew, is it like a home away from
home for you come into put Umu Beach given you've
had a lot of history there and he's ill and
opens and other strong moments over the years there.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Do you know it pretty damn well?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes? I do. It's my favorite. Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What's the tip to get through it if you don't
want to give too much away?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Learning to control the contours off the tea with shapes
and heights, understanding the wind and a whole. I'm not
sure if people have played it like the fifth hole.
If I could put in the middle of the green
the rest of my life, I would retire, actually all
four part threes there. If I could put in the
middle of the green of every part three the rest
of my life, I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
They're very good and just from a players perspective, Matthew.
The introduction of some more pros and as part of
these competitions former touring pros, apprentice pros as well.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
How's that changed the dynamic of the wider competition.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I think it's been absolutely positive. I don't think the
amateurs have a problem us playing. I think they enjoy it.
I know City Joel Macklin being King Spears, they've been
involved and I think they enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And Steve, just to wrap up, I guess you know
you look at these two lineups, where do you think
things could be leaning today?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Or is it too hard to pick?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Certainly the morning doesn't seem like a big caster of
the day, but those five points and the momentum generated
out of those, and even at a three or a
three and a half point advantage to one of the
teams goes a long way to determining the outcome. Certainly,
last week at Manor Park, Judge fed with three two
(09:34):
down in the morning, but in it that they were
all over the five and a half or six points
they needed in the afternoon, so that the morning is
a big deal from both the points in the momentum
and then as Matt's alluded to, in that top half
in the afternoon. It's pretty much usually a bit of
an even split in the bottom half of those teams
are looking to lead their mates out and get some
early points and.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Just to wrap up Matt from your perspective for in
so sort of awesome. Now Whence's on the horizon, someone's
out of the way. What is sort of your focus
with either the team or other golfing endeavors for yourself
through these a few months of winter.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Oh, once this is.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Finished, I'm working for Runnington Golf and that's my next
That's what I dedicate the rest of my year for
is for us to win the Junior and the Provincials
and both the women's and the ladies and then Tyro.
So finished, it's put on another hand Runnington Golf and
let's win some other trophies.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, and must be rewarding being involved in that side
of it too.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh, absolutely, yep, running.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Stuff and Steve before you go, obviously this time a
week ago where we're talking about the women's Into Club final,
can you bring us up to speed with how things
panned out? They're at part of part of Uma Beach last.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Week, certainly, and again the person who was sitting next
to me, Glenda Swan, had a big say on that event,
she and her partner in that bottom group got all
three points and that was just a bruce too far
for Shandon. So they were heading that match all day
and were deserved winners six three, so really good. They
haven't haven't won it for about fifteen years and so
(11:01):
with that team and the four young girls in there,
it was a wonderful day for Glenda and the girls.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, congratulations to them and other champions to be crowned
through the day today at Pata Padoumu Beach two in
the Dunkin Cup final.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So thanks for chatting both of you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Steve always good to catch up, enjoy your weekend and
Matt great to get your insight as well into the
team and all the very best today when things get
underway this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thanks cheers guys.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Matthew Lane there the member of the Shandon golf team
and Steve we're general manager of Golf Wellington.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The Duncan Cup underway this morning with the foursomes. For
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Speaker 1 (11:36):
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News, soaks 'db on the Allsport Breakfast twenty five away
from nine. Let's talk local golf as we always do
around this time on a Saturday morning, and it is
a big day for the local golfing scene with the
seventy ninth Duncan Cup Final. This is to to sign
the champions of men's inter club for the season and
it is an interesting matchup Shandon who are one of
(00:20):
the more regular winners of the Duncan Cup. They're aiming
for a record equalling eighteenth title today. On the other
end of the scale, it's Judge Fit in the final
today who are seeking title number one for them. So
it's all teeing off around now at the patapata Umu
Beach Club. So great to be able to head out
there joining us as always as Golf Wellington general manager
(00:41):
Steve We're at alongside him, member of the Shandon club
looking for that record equalling eighteenth title. Matthew Lane, Good
morning to both of you. I understand it's looking beautiful
out there this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Matthew. How's the team all set to go for the
big final today?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, it started pretty bad for me, but I'm come
back already. Heard us the second week, I was going
to leave the team because I was letting them down.
I had an horrendous loss, and my manager called me up.
He said, well, you can't quit because if you quit,
everybody will quit. So I hung in there and did well,
and our team did well and win the o Techy Cup.
And now we're going into thirty six holes with the
(01:17):
Duncan Cup, which is better for us. Our team we
won our semi final about six weeks ago, and the
problem is but we might have lost our mojo a
little bit, but hopefully we'll get it back on track
at Paragram.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Why you feel you've lost the mojo? What's happened these
last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Oh, well, we haven't played just because of the schedule
of Easter and how it all worked out. The team
has tried to get together a couple of times, but
we were gone really well. But we'll see. We've all
been practicing, but judge for it, they've been all the
team's been practicing, but judge for it. Obviously played last
week and the parap Rams, who were the defending jemps.
(01:56):
So we'll see. Because thirty six holes, it's good for
me because it gives me eighteen holes to get my
mind cleared up of what's the thing I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Use for the day, Steve, this is a huge event
on the Golf Wellington calendar. It's obviously been there since
you know, the nineteen forties. Is it still the most
coveted prize in the local golfing scene do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Certainly the clubs and their players and those premier teams
think that's the case. It's yeah, it's well sought after.
Me and Shandon has been there earlier about for many years.
This would be Judge Ford's first title if they get
that up. So yeah, it's highly coveted and certainly in
the wider golfing dead landscape, it is the approphy with
(02:38):
the most years and the most story around its namer obviously,
Ads Duncan, so you one hundred percent, Adam?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And what about from a player's perspective, Matt, You've been
involved in different incarnations of the Shandon teams over the
years and over their successful years in this event as well.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
What does it mean for you to be playing in
another final?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's been great. It's i think from the last maybe
four or five years. Pros that are a member of
a club that are not playing for a living or
allowed to play. So it's given me a whole new
lease of life to have a reason to practice. I
think I as part of the team three four years
ago that was thirty six years between drinks, so that
was pretty cool to win. We won the following year,
(03:19):
and then last year Paraporim win it. And this year
is the rematch from two years ago when we played Judgement.
But it's probably the most important thing on my calendar
each year when I start the season to play golf.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, I see Shannon's one. It's seventeen times going for
a record, equally eighteen times this year. You're part of
the winning sides. As you said in the eighties, can
you correlate similarities to how you've built that success across
you know, different eras of the Shannon team.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think Shannon always wins it. I hope you this
answer your question. From number six to ten, we're always
the strongest one in five. With most teams there's normally
like a fifty to fifty split, but we normally do
the best from six to ten, and I think that's
how we win the Duncan Cups.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And Steve Steve, can you just give us a bit
of an insight about Judge for you know, they've got
a couple of really good guys that that have been
performing on some of the national level tournaments, but quite
new in the space in terms of getting their name
on it on a Duncan Cup. Can you just give
us a bit of a run through of what sort
of built up Judge for success over these years.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Certainly under the leadership of Deon Bennett who's their captain
and Adam Church is obviously an experienced player captain of the
Wellington side for many years. A couple of really good
leaders by both words and examples there. They've had some
strong players join that team from other clubs in the
last couple of three years, which is the real attraction
of joining a successful club. And the two young boys
(04:44):
obviously the brothers we've talked about a little bit in
the past. Up he Rana especially who finished in the
top twentieth and his jelland stroke play and his younger
brother Wantu. So really good looking team and success breeds success.
They all worked pretty hard at their game and they'll
be aiming up at Shandon, who've had a similar style
of culture bringing young guys through and treating the player
(05:05):
as well and setting good, strong goals and just that
culture of success both teams, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, Matt, how's it working that are balancing out though
the new guys were with the experience and guys and
making sure you're all gelling as a team for big days.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Like today, It's going to be good.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like I played with Tray, I've helped Trey out with
his swing, so we get to spend the first four
hours in the morning. There's a few young guys that
I have over my place for a barbecue mid season.
We have a little talk Ryan Fagy, tom Aldridge and
Harry Allen Dyce. They're probably the future of Shandon Golf.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So it's in good hands. And then how can you contribute?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You' obviously got some coaching experience as well with a
lot of the REP teams and do a great job
with some of the programs. So do you is that
sort of part of your role within this team as well?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It is because the reason why I play at five
or six is I want like in our team Richard Peek,
Tray Shedlock, Ryan Fahie, Matt Peek to play others that
are in the same qualification for endo clubs, so then
when the guys pick the team, they know who they're
playing the games. And also when I play, it's always
good when I play with other players, so I have
feedback for the selectors on picking teams for the future.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Matt, Obviously the formats getting underway this morning, foursomes in
the morning, singles a bit later on. So from your experience,
what is key to negotiating the day.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, I've already talked to my partner. The great thing
now is we know what the weather condition is going
to be, we know what the winds conditions are going
to be, so we've all decided it's ultimate shots. So
I won't give up ten weague secrets, but we already
know who's teeing off the odds or the evens. I've
got a fair idea for myself what clubs are going
to put in the bag because of the wind direction.
(06:39):
I've played the course a lot, and we have a
great chat and we've gone over and we're going to
come up with a game plan. And the morning for me,
as I say, is good because I teach so much
and I think so much that when I actually played
golf for a living. I actually train myself and never
think I can get all the thoughts out and just
play golf in the afternoon and have fun.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And Steve tell us about the importance of the Patapatomi
Beach Course for this one, where we know it's has three.
We know it's extremely strong quality as a course. Lucky
to have it in our region obviously beg for me
able to have the final year again one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Were very fortunate that Pataparama are really open to hosting
event and that have a real event hosting I guess pedigree.
It's just a wonderful viewing. That's Number one, so all
the spectators supporters can see a lot of the action.
Number two is the strongest greens complex in our district
in terms of finding players out and it's a real test.
(07:34):
Obviously there's no trees out there anymore, and it's exposed
to the wind in some sense, so it's golf old soil,
I guess, but it's still top ranked hundred in the
top ranked hundred courses outside the US. It's just a
wonderful test and it just has so much history there
and it's got a great loop to finish thirteen through eighteen.
In every single hole, it is potential opportunity not to
(07:55):
win this Sardy by Birdie, but for certainly your opponents
to drop shots and they call it they're aiming corner
or their loop. But it certainly is so the perfect venue,
the perfectly.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
New and Matthew, is it like a home away from
home for you come into put Umu Beach given you've
had a lot of history there and he's ill and
opens and other strong moments over the years there.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Do you know it pretty damn well?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes? I do. It's my favorite. Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What's the tip to get through it if you don't
want to give too much away?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Learning to control the contours off the tea with shapes
and heights, understanding the wind and a whole. I'm not
sure if people have played it like the fifth hole.
If I could put in the middle of the green
the rest of my life, I would retire, actually all
four part threes there. If I could put in the
middle of the green of every part three the rest
of my life, I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
They're very good and just from a players perspective, Matthew.
The introduction of some more pros and as part of
these competitions former touring pros, apprentice pros as well.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
How's that changed the dynamic of the wider competition.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I think it's been absolutely positive. I don't think the
amateurs have a problem us playing. I think they enjoy it.
I know City Joel Macklin being King Spears, they've been
involved and I think they enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And Steve, just to wrap up, I guess you know
you look at these two lineups, where do you think
things could be leaning today?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Or is it too hard to pick?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Certainly the morning doesn't seem like a big caster of
the day, but those five points and the momentum generated
out of those, and even at a three or a
three and a half point advantage to one of the
teams goes a long way to determining the outcome. Certainly,
last week at Manor Park, Judge fed with three two
(09:34):
down in the morning, but in it that they were
all over the five and a half or six points
they needed in the afternoon, so that the morning is
a big deal from both the points in the momentum
and then as Matt's alluded to, in that top half
in the afternoon. It's pretty much usually a bit of
an even split in the bottom half of those teams
are looking to lead their mates out and get some
early points and.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Just to wrap up Matt from your perspective for in
so sort of awesome. Now Whence's on the horizon, someone's
out of the way. What is sort of your focus
with either the team or other golfing endeavors for yourself
through these a few months of winter.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Oh, once this is.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Finished, I'm working for Runnington Golf and that's my next
That's what I dedicate the rest of my year for
is for us to win the Junior and the Provincials
and both the women's and the ladies and then Tyro.
So finished, it's put on another hand Runnington Golf and
let's win some other trophies.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, and must be rewarding being involved in that side
of it too.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Oh, absolutely, yep, running.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Stuff and Steve before you go, obviously this time a
week ago where we're talking about the women's Into Club final,
can you bring us up to speed with how things
panned out? They're at part of part of Uma Beach last.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Week, certainly, and again the person who was sitting next
to me, Glenda Swan, had a big say on that event,
she and her partner in that bottom group got all
three points and that was just a bruce too far
for Shandon. So they were heading that match all day
and were deserved winners six three, so really good. They
haven't haven't won it for about fifteen years and so
(11:01):
with that team and the four young girls in there,
it was a wonderful day for Glenda and the girls.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, congratulations to them and other champions to be crowned
through the day today at Pata Padoumu Beach two in
the Dunkin Cup final.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So thanks for chatting both of you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Steve always good to catch up, enjoy your weekend and
Matt great to get your insight as well into the
team and all the very best today when things get
underway this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thanks cheers guys.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Matthew Lane there the member of the Shandon golf team
and Steve we're general manager of Golf Wellington.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The Duncan Cup underway this morning with the foursomes. For
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