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April 5, 2025 46 mins

WARNING: This episode discusses mental health, depression and suicide.

This week, Paula's guest is former police negotiator turned mental health advocate Lance Burdett. They discuss his career in the force, and why he believes his experiences with depression helped him in his role. And they discuss advice for surviving with anxiety in anxious world, an area Lance has focused on in his new book, Anxiety is a Worry. 

Suicide and depression help services:

If it is an emergency and you or someone else is at risk, call 111.

For counselling and support:

Youth services:

  • Youthline: Call 0800 376 633 or text 234
  • What's Up: Call 0800 942 8787 (11am to 11pm) or webchat (11am to 10.30pm)
  • Depression helpline: Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202 (available 24/7)
  • Helpline: Need to talk? Call or text 1737
  • Aoake te Rā (Bereaved by Suicide Service): Call 0800 000 053

For more information and support, talk to your local doctor, hauora, community mental health team, or counselling service.

The Mental Health Foundation has more helplines and service contacts - click here for information

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