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August 18, 2024 131 mins

Jamie Pennell had an esteemed 20-year career as a solder and leader inside the NZ SAS.

He was sent on four deployments to Afghanistan and in 2011, he was part of the unit which responded to the Taliban’s Intercontinental Hotel siege. For his bravery in helping save many lives that day - he was awarded the New Zealand Gallantry Star, the country’s second-highest military honour.

In this episode Jamie shares his story about what really happened, he talks about the unique culture of resilience and camaraderie within the NZSAS, and the subsequent alienation this can create when soldiers return to civilian life. We hear of touring with Willie Apiata and what happened the day Willie won his Vic Cross, the brutal reality of SAS selection and some of the most eye raising stories from war zones.

But this ep is so much more than ‘war stories’: in the second half Jamie reflects on what hes seen in men’s mental health, grief, and the struggles of reconnecting with his family. 

Jamie is now an advocate for rewiring the neural pathways to overcome negative thought patterns. After leaving the Defence Force, he gained his master’s in International Security, and trained high performance athletes to reach their goals and He now teaches Learning in the Outdoors to students at Dilworth School.

This podcats tackles some serious themes and there are mentions of suicide. It may not be suitable for all listeners.

If you, or anyone listening to the podcast - finds this subject challenging, please stop now. And remember, help is available from a range of organisations. There’s a list of them in the podcast episode description.

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