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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Flavor podcast network. You're listening to Staycissura and
Charlie's Off the Record, Your record.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to Off the Record, where we discuss today how
things are not off the record when it's at your
workplace and you are messaging, say on a work device.
It's been in the news that your workplace can access
those messages under the Privacy Act and the Official Information Act,
especially if you work in the public sector. They can
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use those messages and like send them to the person
that they are about, if they're the ones who've asked
for us.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
This is crazy, This is real. So no one is
safe when it comes to like information, especially when you're
working in a government sector. Yeah, agreed, so bright. Even
a work phone for example, and I know some of
us we don't have data on our phones. So then
what do you do. You use your work phone and
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when you are surfing the internet at let's say close
to midnight, what are you up to? They't worry your
boss knows exactly what sites are you going on.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So what does this make you think? Because your boss
can probably read your emails and messages as well. This
is what an employment law specialist said. You just Basically
it's fear game. And if you're using, especially a work
kind of tool and so they have the right to
access that. The only exception is if the employer has
led staff to believe that they won't look at communications,
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and we'll call them private. But basically I know of
people who have to be really keyful. Like say, I
was working with some people and I still don't really
know what they do, but they are not allowed their
phones on during worktime. One of their family members told
me they never know. She doesn't know what whose sister does.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
This is a New Zealand US some CIA.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, and so they put their phones at the beginning
of the day, she'll only ever hear from here at
the end of the day. And then also on they
don't use laptops that can be accessible by anyone else. Yeah,
and so also in terms of how you're thinking about
what you're messaging at work, I think a few people
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like will be going today, let me just double check.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So it's like I used to We built the Microsoft
building which is out and wiskate here and that was
quite freaky. So you weren't allowed your phones on site.
So when you get onto side from the car park,
you have your toolbox meeting in this little cuber cole
area and then you handle your phones. Right. So the supervisors,
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the foreman's they didn't have walkie talkie, so if it
was an emergency, they don't have to do it like
you'll have to walk your talking and then you'll get
somebody from Microsoft or one of the securities. They will
then escort you to your phone and wait there, well
are making your phone call.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So if Microsoft is like that, that means that they
know how accessible all the messages and that is so
the ore the ones saying don't do anything. So that's
the thing. So let's so basically what we're saying is
be sneakier and if you are going to write something,
make sure it's it wouldn't actually incriminate you, yes, or
you write it on I feel like WhatsApp is different. Yeah,
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you know that the rule was that WhatsApp today, Yeah,
but I don't know if that's the reason WhatsApp is
at a detectable Yeah. So they are encrypted and that
means that the content of the cause is secure and
cannot be intercepted by third parties, including WhatsApp.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But you know, there's always a way there's always a
way to get.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
What I'm getting out of this is that Charlie knows
how to be dodgy.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Thank you, Thanks for listening to Stay a Zorah and
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