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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, indeed, welcome into Football Fever as we talk all
things A League A day later than normal. We thought
we'd all have a public holiday on Labor Day, but
we're back to talk to big games of football over
the weekend involving the New Zealand teams and the A
League men's. I'm Jason Pine. Michael Burgess is here too,
how are.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You, Burch? Very well? Thanks mate, Yeah, very nice.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Long we can down and wayhee beach and even had
a swim or I jumped in.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I guess maybe swim's going too far, but I jumped in.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well that I was in the lovely bay of plenty.
So good that we're both refreshed and ready to charge
into Football Fever. No rest, of course for these A
League sides. Both the Auckland FC and Wellington Phoenix Men
had matches. Let's say have a look at both of
them Saturday afternoon at go Media Stadium. Auckland FC one,
Western Sydney Wanderers nil. Jesse Randall with the all important
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only goal of the game. Can we start actually with
Jesse Randal. I know you've been keeping a very close
eye on him and his career arc if you like
his trajectory. Does it feel as though Jesse Randal might
have quite a key role to play for Auckland FC
this season?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think so because I just I just noticed the
way he's come on from a guy that a lot
of people hadn't even heard of last season. Serilly in
the start of last season started to play a role
last season, had that really good game away to Melbourne
in the first semi final, and then I was hearing
so many things out of the orkan See camp that
he was so impressive in preseason. Some people told me
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he was actually he was actually the sort of the
shining light of the preseason. So I just think we
could see more and more of him because you know
what happens with the young guys is they get more
confidence and belief. He's quite a shy kid, but as
they get more confidence and belief, they start to realize
what they can do. And he's got a lot going
for him, hasn't he He has?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
He hasn't You're right? He was sort of in an
out of the starting side last year, wasn't he. I'm
just bringing the stats up now. He played in twenty
matches last year, but only seven of those were starts,
thirteen off the bench. But his first goal came in
the six to one win in the derby, and from
there I felt like he kind of gained in confidence.
He he scored away at Newcastle and then also got
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a goal in that lost to Western United at the
back end of the season when first place was already secure.
But I mean there's a lot of competition for places
in those attacking roles. If we assume that Gazumo May
is going to play pretty much every game, we'll get
to Sam Cosgrove in a moment. Jesse Randal is still
up against a fairly decent clump of players for one
of those attacking spots. But you've got to give it
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to Steve Corriker. If, as you say, Birch, he had
a very impressive preseason, then he's been rewarded with a
starting place. He's got his goal now, so I mean
he'll start again this weekend, won't he. He just has to
continue to play well, score goals and contribute.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What they like about him Pioneer is the fact that
he can play out why I do that job very well,
but he can also play as the second striker, which
we saw a lot of last season. He's got that
pace off the shoulder. What they also like is that
he's one of the best finishes in the squad, and
that's probably what we saw on Saturday, just a really
nice finish the keeper probably probably should have done better
at a near post, but a really nice clinical finish
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after he hadn't finished well in Melbourne the week before,
so a lot of strings to his bow and he's,
as you say, so many options on that out wide
look just like there was last last season. But he
is definitely ahead of the pack at the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, you take your chances when they come, and he's
certainly done that. Sam Cosgrove again a game where I'm
not sure he'll look back with great fondness. He's still
just kind of struggling to get into the A League,
isn't he. He's at a couple of yellow cards now,
which I guess is perhaps an indication of some frustration
at how it's not going as wy. I think a
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lot of people thought Sam Crosgrove, tall guy, you know,
going to get a lot of set peace and wide
delivery from the likes of Francis Devrees and others. He
will feast in the penalty area and he might still.
Let's not get too carried away. It's only a round two.
But he's just taken a bit of time, isn't he
to find his feet in the A League? For me?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, well, I think you made a really good point
last week Pine when you said that often strikers take
a while. It does take a while for strikers in
particular coming into the A League. You would have seen
a lot in your time coming to the A League.
So I guess the question is how long do.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
We give him?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I mean we he's a silly word, but how long?
How long will he get to prove himself. I imagine they've
spent all this money to bring him here, He's come
all this way. They'll give him quite a bit of
time to settle. But I'd imagine, you know, Steph Currick
and the coaches will want to start to see things,
won't they, And they want to just start to see
more of a I don't know, he's not really getting
integrated into the play into the style of play as
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much as they would have hoped for so far.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I'm just trying to remember what Max Mutter was like
in that role last year in terms of linking the
play up, getting involved, as you say, dropping off the line,
perhaps a little bit to link up play, which will
you know, cender forwards have to have in their armory,
and I don't remember him doing it, you know a lot.
You know, he's I remember my being the guy who
did that. See the problem they strike Burge is if
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it's not Cosgrove, then what do they do? Because Steve
Corecker's on recorder saying that he likes the big man
little man up top, the Cosgrove my, you know, the
Marta my from last year. That's when they were most effective.
It'll awt cousum, I mind not to be a center forward.
If Cosgrove goes three or four more games without you know,
showing an uptick, get it, I mean need to goal.
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I think all strikers do. But if they do have
to make a decision, would Steve Coricker walk that back
and go back to my up top with the three
and behind?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He's pretty sold on the top top as you say,
so maybe he'd look at Jesse Randall, I think is
his second option there to play as a second striker,
and then someone at Logan Rogerston could do a job
there is play a bit of striker in his time,
So they do have options, but they're certainly not overflowing
with different options. And it's a good point you made
about Cosgroves yellow cards, the bit of petulance. I felt
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both of them were what you classify as pretty dumb
yellow cards. That's not a good sign only because it'll
be telling opposition defenders, hey, we can get at this guy. Yeah,
we can wind him up. And that's you know, Chris
Wood's a great example of me. No matter what opposition
do to Chris Wood. Maybe it's different when he's younger,
he was a bit, but he's never ruffled. He just
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keeps playing. He's so focused on what he's out there
to do. And I guess from an English pro who's
been around for so long twelve thirteen seasons, twelve clubs,
you expect them just not to get ruffled by a
bit of a bit of physicality and a bit of
you know, you're not what defenders are like. So he's
got to get that out of his game, focus on
what he's got to do. But you're right, it probably
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is frustration because he wanted to make an impact, didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He He did, and as all strikers do, and you
know is a we talked last week about he fine
is getting off the mark and when a striker gets
off the mark and on their debut, that must really
pump them up, you know, and Sam Cosgrove, but like,
I don't know, different but similar. Remember Liam gillyon last
season he just couldn't score a goal. He was there
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thereabouts all the time and it started to weigh on him,
I think. And then there was a game where they'd
won the game and that it was late on in
the piece and Liam Gillian had the ball and if
it squared it to Nato Modeno, I don't know what
it had to tappen, but Gillian thought, I need my
goal and he shot missed and Molano let him have it.
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And I think it was almost a turning point in
Liam Gillian's season. I know he picked up an injury
as well, but you know, while while all strikers will
say they'd rather win one Nilla not score then lose
four to three and get a hat trick, you know,
but goals pay the rent, and the longer it goes,
the longer it goes without one, the more of a
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talking point he comes.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I think goals or assist or some some real moments
in the play that he probably hasn't hasn't had, but
we probably can't, you know, completely isolate him or picking
him because overall perhaps the I don't know what you think,
but the Auckland FC offensive machine isn't clicking as yet,
is it. They're they're I mean they're creating quite a bit,
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but they're not quite finishing, which was sort of similar
pattern to what we saw towards i know, the last
third of last season.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, no, you're right then. They were never really absolutely prolific,
were they. Auckland f C. They won games, you know,
and you only have to win it one nil. Apart
from the derby and a couple of other occasions where
they put three or four in. They were never the
most free scoring of teams. And look, when you've got
a new point to her arrow in Sam Cosgrove, it
is going to take a bit of time, you know,
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because you Momi came back into the starting side. Good
to know that Steve Coriker listens to football fever urge
and I think we both agree that Marley Frewia is
better in an impact role. And that's what that's the
role he served on the weekend with my coming back
into the starting eleven. Look, when he was fully fit,
he was always going to start, wasn't he. And that
was the only change that Steve Corricker made. Lachland Brook
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keen for your view on Lochland Brook and how you
how you assess his first couple of games and that
and that kind of free role that he's been given.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I really like him.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I really like what he's doing, as you say, a
free roll a bit different heaving a guy cutting from
the right winger left foot, but then he pops up
somewhere else. There was a particular moment in the second
half where Gim and Maia had a couple of nice
dummies like he does and step overs. He got it
to Brook. Brooke had a shot from distance that that
really stung the palms. He thought, Okay, this is this
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is the vision, this is the future. Another some nice
crosses as well from Brook. I mean he's come in
a bit like girl with Rice. He's coming from it
from the MLS where it didn't work out like he
would have hoped, and he's got something to prove and
that's quite obvious. And he's going to be really important,
isn't it, Because this Auckland team just for the X factor,
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they really need that because of the way they play.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yep, I like him as well. Jake Brimer's had a
couple of starts in a row now as well. Philippe.
Guy Goss is still coming back from injury, but it
might even be this week. I remember corac Is saying
it was either around three or round four. He'd probably
want to get some minutes in his legs this weekend
before the derby. But when guy Goss is one hundred
percent fit again, I'm pretty sure that the strata, Brummer
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and guy Goss probably don't all make the starting eleven.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Jake Brimmer, I mean terrific player, former Johnny Warren medalist
last year. I think he started eighteen games and came
off the bench in nine, so it was, you know,
it was always involved, but his role varied. What do
you have to see from him to sort of fend
off Guy Goss's you know, I guess his proposition as
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a starting player.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, Broom has been fascinating for me, just because he
came in as one of the massive signings. You know.
I remember when they announced him and I've since spoken
to terryff mc flinn about that, and they were adamant.
They wanted a statement signing and that was their statement signing.
That was a big one. Whereas like heads were turned
in Australia, Well, Auckland's got Brummer. That's okay. This club
is serious. They're not just gonna make up the numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But the whole of.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Last season you never really felt like he completely I
don't know, you didn't feel like you saw the best
of him. Considering you're talking about a guy who, off
the top of my head, would be in the top
three or four earners at the club. You know, he's
on a from memory, he's on a decent salary, higher
than you'd be surprised, higher than some of the other
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prominent players there. So when you're on that you got
to deliver. There were some things going on for him
off the field I think last year as well. But
I just wonder pinting because you've seen a lot more
of him over his career, does he suit Coracer's system
or where does he fit in best in this system?
Because I've always seen him as more of a attacking
player and Coracer sort of uses them as a six.
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I guess, I mean, where does he suit the system
that currently have?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think he's an all purpose player for me, I mean,
I've always been a huge fan of Jake Brimmer. I
love what he brings to a game. His wholehearted nature,
has no nonsense kind of you know approach to football.
But I think back to the back end of last
season and in the big games, you know, those two
those two semi final matches against Melbourne Victory, his former club,
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he wasn't in the starting eleven. And I think that
speaks to the point you made that that you know,
Steve Kayriker had his back four, had Vestrata and Guy
Goss as his as his sixers if you like, with
perhaps Guy Goss a little bit further ahead, maybe more,
not not necessarily in an eight, but not in a
six either. And seven's the wrong phrase, but I think
you get my drift. And then Francois Rogerson randall Ma
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was the with with the front men. I think Martin
might have been injured by that point, but the point remains.
I think that that Brimmer, Guy Goss, and Vistra probably
aren't all going to be in the team for Strata.
I think Pix himself, I think he is an absolutely
superb A League player. I think it's going to come
down to Brimmer over the next little while, while Guy
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Goss they're still coming back next week and maybe the
week after, just having to to do enough to keep
his place. And you know, lest I forget there's other
players in and around there as well. Cam Howison of course,
is another who I think has replaced Brimmer both matches
so far. So again we're talking about about competition for
places though, aren't we. You know, there's there's options for
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Steve Corriker. He has shown himself to be a loyal coach.
If you play well, you stay in the team. So
I guess that is a very long winded way of
saying that Jake Brimmer just has to keep on playing
well well.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
The exciting thing is for orkanoth C and for the
fan base, is that if things really click for Brimmer,
imagine how good orknef See could become. Because we didn't
completely see the best of him. But if the goals
start going in some of his long raune shots. I
mean he had a he had a shot from long ways.
It went wide on Saturday, but that's a sign he's
perhaps getting his confidence back. So you know, it could
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actually be a real positive if he comes into form
and then Felipe's thinking, geez, I've got to get back
into the team, and that's that's what you want. You
want that kind of competition or push them to a
higher level.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I would like to see Jake Brimmer score more goals.
I have to say. He hasn't been a prolific goal
scorer throughout his A League career, just eighteen in one
hundred and eighty eight matches. So the mass is pretty simple,
just a goal every ten games, which for a midfield
maybe like to see a little bit more. He got
those two in the derby last year, of course, against
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against Wellington Phoenix, but you know one was a goalkeeping
mistake and the other was like right at the end,
he was only a yard out, still got to finish.
But he had that lovely goal he scored against the Mariners.
But then that was it. He didn't get any more
goals and I'm sure he'd love to add that to
his arsenal as well. A couple of numbers out of
the game pretty even possession wise. Western Sydney shaded at
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fifty two to forty eight. Aukland NEFC had eighteen shots burge,
eight on target just a one goal. So maybe that
speaks a little bit to your point before that. They yeah, they,
I don't know they And again maybe we're spotting hairs.
If you're keeping clean sheets like they are, you don't
have to care one, don't you. But I'm sure they'd
like to convert more than just one of their eighteen shots.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, it's sweet and sour, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And if I talked to Steve Caraker on Thursday and
say to hey, Steve, by the way, Piney's wondering about
your your eighteen shots and that's not really good enough,
he'll be like, you know, he'll be what are you
on about, mate, because it's a really good sign in
eighteen shots. But you're exactly right. The conversion rate is
not good because it worked early in the season, but
then laid it from mid to late season. They started
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conceding because teams do, because you know, they had the
amazing run where they weren't conceding, but then they started
conceding a few goals here and there, you know, and
then it puts so much pressure on teams when you're
not putting your chances away, and it puts so much
pressure on the defense. So that's a work on, But
it's a good work on to have. I mean, you're
exactly right, like defective creating so many chances. It is
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not a problem for too many other teams. But those
stats eighteen shots, what was it? Eight corners to none
as well, so good signs, but the same old work
on about moments in the final third.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And let's talk about the other end where they've kept
a second straight clean sheet. I think Jay Goodwood writes
doing a great job with Nando Pinekers still out, and
in fact, that'll be an interesting little selection conundrum for
Steve Coricker as well. When Nando is fit again, you know,
does he go straight back into that central defensive partnership
with Dan Hall. Maybe he doesn't. Michael Vaud didn't have
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a heck of a lot to do, just a couple
of shots on target. He did make one good save
to Deny Costa. Barbarussis, who had a frustrating return to
New Zealand for Western Sydney. But you know you have
to say, look, what was it last year, Bich They
kept five straight clean sheets, didn't they? And then Costa
oddly enough scored that goal in the derby which saw
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them finally breached. I think you said, you know, they're
they're not going to keep five six cheat and the
rub again. They might.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They might because the look who they've done it against
a way to victory and at home to one of
the one of the competition favorites who have got plenty
of attacking threats.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So gee, there's good signs. Again, there's something about that defense,
the players they've got, but also how they're drilled by
Danny Hay in particular, and then the two guys Vistrada
and whoever else is with them in front of them.
They've just got the template worked out and must be
so hard to play against when you're adding the press
as well.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Far out, just.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
One point on Western City Wanderers and regular listeners to
the podcast will know that I picked them to win
the Premier's plate. It's quickly become apparent to me that
they are missing a very vital ingredient and that is
a ten. They have very good midfielders in Josh Berlante,
Steven Yugarkovich and Angus Thurgate, and they have potentially very
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good attackers and cost of barbarussas Brandon Burrello and bojed
Ar Krajev, but they just don't have that creative force
and until they find it or find a way of
dealing without it, then they may well just be a
team that doesn't score enough goals to do what I
predicted that they want, and that's from the top of
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the table. Like I say, they didn't really create a
heck of a lot on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Not particularly No, not for the names they've got, which
was your credit to organa see obviously, but also far
out with the players on the field you'd expect, you'd
expect a bit more. Very happy for Michael Valde. I
mean to have two clean sheets as first two games,
as brilliant, But are there any of those midfielders that
could be used as a ten could become a team.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Not really, not the midfield, but Kryev might You know
he was always a bit of a wildcard at Wellington Phoenix.
You never quite knew what he was going to do,
which I think is probably the hallmark of a good teen,
you know, somebody who can unexpectedly create something. So it
feels to me like he could. Obviously the Wanderers of
that one mat Ago, he could potentially have been a
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pretty decent number ten for them. But you know, Birello, No,
he's more of an out astruck I've never seen cost
of playing the ten. Maybe cry If, but Ugarkovich, Berlante, Thurgate,
they all feel like six eighths to me, just not tens.
I don't know what you think.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, I think you're right, But I think cry is
a good point. He's a guy that whenever I've seen
him play for Wellington or Wanderers, whenever he's you want
him on the ball a lot, and whenever he's on
the ball a lot, he tends to have a really
good games. So maybe that's you know, maybe we'll have
another coach listened to the podcast this week and we'll
see the.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Change, and then will here we go hegoes.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
We'll go through the rooms every suggested we make on
the podcast, we will track what the coach does as
far as completely ignoring it or taking it on board. Ellis,
Are you listening by it? I cry for your ulswer
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by News Talk Zidby and let's get a Sunday. Wellington
Phoenix two Brisbane Raw one. Without wanting to raally cliche
this out, it was a game of two halves. I
don't know what Wellington were doing in the first half.
They hardly created a thing. I think the only shot
they had in the first half was the free cack
right at the end of the first half that was
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hadd into the wall by Carlo Armiento from memory. Whatever
Chief you said at halftime worked and by the sounds
of it, he had a bit of a go at
them because they were just so much more positive in
the second half. They were one kneel down obviously, so
you've got to try and get back in the game.
But as I understand it, it wasn't that the game. But
as I understand it, the crowd were getting rather annoyed
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with Wellington Phoenix in the first half. What did you
see well.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
They were just the crowd were just probably thinking, after
all the hope of Perth, it's here we go again
with pretty dour, uninspiring football watching at the cake Tin,
which is not what they were expecting after week one.
So but things definitely got going. I mean you could
see Chief on the sideline getting so frustrated on them
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to move the ball a bit faster, et cetera, et cetera,
and it started to it started to click.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They got wide.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So yeah, I mean, overall it's really positive signs again
because for the second week in a row. I mean,
last week probably felt like a win the way they
came back from turner down, and then this week it's
the perfect way to win for team spirit, for all
that kind of things to fight back from. I mean,
seventy five minutes, seventy five minutes gone there one now down,
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things are looking pretty bleak. So to end up winning
that game it will do wonders for them.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Absolutely. It will let us address the non red card.
Do we find is a it is for me Burger
red card. Every single day of the week. He has
lashed out at Euston Sellas, who had been sort of
niggling him and he wasn't the only one. Others were
niggling is a as well. But you simply cannot throw
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a haymaker off the ball or even on the ball
at an opposing player and not be sent off. I
have no idea how he escaped a red card.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I mean, there were a couple of things that
might have saved him. One was, there weren't great camera angles,
so the cameras as they can be at sky Stadium
were quite far away.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
If you had that.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Real close up that could look really bad, that may
have changed things. And the second thing was it was
retaliation for the first act where it seemed like Euston
Albert em Moore shoved him, and then is they retaliated,
So maybe there was some you know, some allowances made
for retaliation. I didn't mind it so much because I
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feel like we've gone a bit over the top with
red cards. The ones I hated the ones you see
in the Premier League and the A League where there's
player does something, player be retaliate, shove someone in the
chest and player A's on the ground writhing around and
it's a red card. And to me, red cards should
be for something really, really grievous and malicious or something
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that stops a goal, all that kind of thing. So
I didn't mind it too much, but I can see
why Brisbane were fuming.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Absolutely that, And you're right. I agree with you. I think,
you know, red cards are being being handed out for
misdemeanors which don't deserve expulsion from the game. But if
that's the rule, if the rule is that you can't
strike an opponent, you know, in the in the face
or the head, if that's the rule, and as they
should have been sent off, you know, I think Chief
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he made a similar point to you afterwards. He said,
well he thought that it was justified because of all
the physical treatment that had been getting. I'm pretty sure
that's not the rule, you know, I'm reasonably positive that's
not the rule. You're right, Michael Volcanis was was he
did well? Actually to keepers call, I thought. In his
postmatch he was asked about it and he kind of
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threw a question Mack. He said, well, have we got
var It's a good question because upon examination, look put
it this way Berg if VAA had looked at it,
some of the referee over to have a look at it,
and they decided it was a red card. I'm not
sure too many people would have said, well, that's harsh.
I think they would have said, okay, we can see
what you're seeing here. The other part of this, though,
is a similar point to the one about Sam Cosgrove,
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is if you know that if you needle I fine, essay,
if you niggle him, if you kick him in the
ankles a couple of times, if you rile him he'll
lash out, then what are team's going to do?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, I mean that's that's his big warning. And you
saw men Draca James talking to him, you know, straight
after that incident, and you hope that's one and done
and that'll be it, because otherwise it's future well into
vengege won't be very long. You can't have a player
like that. He's quite experienced, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
What is he?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Twenty six re memory So it's quite surprising twenty six
played all over the world, played in Iraq. I mean,
who goes to Iraq to play? You've got to be
super hungry to play in Iraq. You got to admire that.
So I had expected someone who was much more what's
the word.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Harder to ryle, much stronger mentally than that, So so yeah,
hopefully that's just there was just this one off playing
in the Wellington sunshine in front of a home crowd,
wanting to really make a mark, and he got away
with it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Now, Brisbane's goal late in the first half, I'd be
interested in you beyond this. Justin Villitch was the goal scorer.
James mcgowie's pumped a ball along. Nothing to do with
the high line this time. It wasn't as though Wellington
were caught out by you know, by on rushing attackers
or anything like that. Is they were against Perth for
both of their goals in round one. Man Drake and
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James looked in complete control of that situation. To me,
he got to the ball ahead of it. Josh olaway
Amy's coming out it just looks to me like a
miscommunication between defender and goalkeeper and vitis nipsyn and it's
a nice finish actually, But I thought Man Draker James
was in control of that situation. He was.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And these kind of I mean without the sound like
a guy is sort of stuck in the eighties watching
you know, Division one football in England. But these kind
of goals drive me crazy because it's all about defenders
these days trying to be a bit too cute, whether
it's you know, the back passes or that kind of thing.
He was obviously trying to shield the ball to the keeper,
but his option A was just to wally it clear,
you know, over the sideline, and then you can reset.
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The keeper's got to take some blame because it looked
like he was coming. Then he decided not to. But
keepers are in a terrible situation because they can't afford
to get it wrong, so he decided, hey, it's going
to be too close. But again, a great lesson for James.
There are only two games in. He's the leader of
the back line. I imagine there's still a bit to
work on with the communication between the two of them.
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But yeah, well there's one of the second half.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
There was one of the second half as well, where
the ball was sort of an around the penalty area.
Josh Alawami had sort of parried it or or gone
to pick it up or whatever it was, and James
kicked it away from him. And I wonder whether that
was yes, yes, because of what happened in the first half.
But you're right, I don't mind the old nineteen eighties
get rid.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, just get rid, Just get ready.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, just put your boot through it and put it
into rose and face the consequences of a thrower a corner.
But you know, hindsight's a wonderful thing. It was Raw's
only shot on target. They had five in total, four
of them wide at the target, one of them at
the bar that headed the bar, but that doesn't count
apparently as on target. So josh Olawami didn't have to
make a save, and the whole game we did. He
just couldn't say victatures. The Knicks had sixty four percent possession,
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thirteen shots, twelve of those in the second half. Turning
point for me Burg was Corbyn Piper's introduction. I still
don't know that he is necessarily best served as an
impact attacking player, but on this evidence, maybe that is
his best role.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
He's got it right.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But yeah, I mean, you've been to your credit, You've
talked about Corbyn Piper a lot, you know, and he's
he's basically delivering everything you've talked about him. He's just
the kind of guy that has got this intangible energy
and ability to I don't know, make things happens the
right word, but he comes on you know, brings the
energy and suddenly things start to things start to happen,
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and full credit to him is a young kid.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And he was.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
He was involved in both goals. In the first goal,
there's actually quite a very nice piece of skill the
way he brought the wool under control and then got
it out out wide, so it was it was a
hell of an impact he's making.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He's becoming a bit of a cult hero, isn't he.
He reminds me a lot of Bend Segment and we
know how much of a cult hero Sigi was at
Wellington Phoenix. He's just wholehearted, fully committed, a one hundred
percenter is what you would call Corbyn piper and you know,
to come on like he did lift the energy and
crew well certainly Nagasawa's goal close range finished and then
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he played the pass for Armiento. I mean it's pretty
poor defending by Brisbane, I have to say at the
end in the ninety seventh minute, a ball gets pumped long,
you kind of deal with it. They didn't. And Carlo
Armiento two goals in two weeks now. He already looks
like a very good piece of business to me. For
Wellington Phoenix purge.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Oh fantastic, absolutely fantastic. But that goal was it was
intriguing because you're right, it was ninety five minutes and
thirty seconds the ball was still down by the Wellington
penalty area. So at that stage, you know, Brisbane just
have to lock it up. You know, it's take a
point on the road, right, take a point on the
recado and to let that happen. But just as confidence
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and at one point of note in the second half,
he just had a shot from about thirty meters but
it wasn't one of those just you know, just trying
for the sake of it. It was bang on target.
It was a real scud MISSI or really hit it well.
And I thought at that moment, Wow, this is a
go who's full of confidence. He had a few more
shots and eventually got the one at the end. So
he's becoming I mean, I love left foot as anyway,
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but he's becoming so important to this well Into Phoenix team.
And the exciting thing is he's only going to get better,
you would think when the combinations with his teammates start
to form. I mean, what have you seen from him
in the previous seasons.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Nothing like this.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's hard to imagine why flashes seems have let him go. Yep,
I've seen flashes off him. He's a kind of player
who when you come up against a team he's in,
you go, hey, we better watch out for Carlo Armiento
because we know what he can do. I just don't
think he's done it often enough for clubs to really say, hey,
we got to have this bloken in our team chief,
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he said when he signed him, he is most excited
about Armiento in terms of his new acquisitions. Armiento said
a really interesting thing after the game too. He said,
it's the most cohesive and closest changing room he's been in.
And he's only been here a month. You know, he's
been at other places far longer than that, so he
already is feeling a connection. And you know, we all
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know how powerful that can be on the field if
off the field things are nice and tight. So yeah,
I think maybe Carla Carlo Amiento has just found a
very happy home in Wellington.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A second goal for him in two games the she
just took before we move on to Timpayne. I thought
Kazuki Agasawa had another good game too, his goal, but
also I just think he sits nicely in that role,
slightly ahead of Rufa, and it was roll Conchi maybe
retrave when he comes back, just that kind of that eight,
you know, getting forward, but getting on the ball, looking
up for Armiento, for a Shiga, for Esse. I thought
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Nagasawa had a good game too. Tim Payne off with
a shoulder injury after seventeen minutes. We've had confirmation today
from the club that he has broken his collar bone.
I googled bird. You'll be pleased to know researching for
the podcast today. How long does a broken collar bone
take to heal? The commonly held viewers six to twelve weeks,
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so at best six weeks, likely to be more sort
of eight to ten, perhaps depending on how it goes.
He will almost certainly miss the first two Derby's almost
the first one, probably the second. He won't go in
the next international window either. But you know, his playing
part of this is one thing you made the very
good point to me in a message earlier today. He's
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one half of the culture at the Phoenix as well.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Well, Tim and Rufer. Really that set the tone in
the dressing room ever since. I guess the other leaders
that have gone Scott Whoton, Sam Sutton. I mean, you
remember the days of Many Musket, Vinnie Leah, Ben Siegmund
Andrew Durante. You know, it's so important having that, and
in terms of the voices, the experience, the people who
know what the club means to the city, to everyone,
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it's only really Alex Rufa there now in a dressing
room full of kids and guys who recently at the club.
So this is a massive loss. And jeez, you really
feel for Tim pain. It's always in the bloody, reasonably
knock you challenges, but also just the Brisbane guy trying
to shove him a bit and so he got caught
awkwardly lands awkwardly. It's just so tough these kind of situations,
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incredibly painful injury, I imagine. And he was in good form,
he'd started the season well and he's got so much
to pay for.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, it is a shame. I guess if there's any
consolation it's that it's now and not sort of in
March April next year, when his World Cup place would
certainly be at risk if he'd broken his collar bone.
Then Schwindlight came on and did a pretty serviceable job.
I thought, actually a right back and he'll get a decent,
decent crack at that or right wing back in this system.
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Still know Isaac Hughes, so we'll wait and see if
he's available for the mayor and his game on Sunday night,
which is the next assignment for Wellington Phoenix. But yeah,
it look injuries happened, don't they. And look, as I said,
Carlo Armiento said, you know, the culture's good. So maybe
Tim Payin and Alex Ruther have done a good job
of building that and Tim pank can still be a
part of that as well. Can'ty off the field, he'll
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be in and around the team as he rehabs, so
so hopefully he can he can still play a part there.
Just before we move, I'm be very interested on your
thoughts on Brisbane. There has been a rebuild there after
a couple of fairly mediocre, uninspiring seasons. Michael Valcanus has
come in and he seemed to bristle at the suggestion
that his team were physical. He even said afterwards, we're
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supposed to be the physical ones. When talking about and
him escaping that red card. They did have to rebuild.
My Sky colleague Jacob Spoonley said after the game that
it's you know that I guess the means justifies the end.
We want to see them win football matches. I don't
know what have you got of you.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, it's funny you bring up Jacob because I heard
his comment too and I was thinking and he said,
it's great they've gone the identity, that's who they are.
I don't think it's great for the A League. Personally.
I think it's great that Brisbane are back because there's
such a big club in a big city and the
A League needs a strong Brisbane Raw and when the
A League was going so well as when they had
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that team going so well with Under and and then
after and as well, so definitely need the team to
be back. Not sure if this is the kind of
Brisbane Raw you want to see. You know, you can
use all these euphemisms like I heard in commentary about
being uncompromising and combative, but let's face it, they're just
they're just they're kicking people. I mean I spoke to
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some of the Auk Left Sea players when they after
they played them in pre season and they were like, Okay,
this is what it's going to be like you know,
they just fall on full throttle into challenges, taking taking
people out near the sideline and all that sort of thing.
Quite clever the way they do it, but I don't know,
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I don't particularly like it. I don't think it's going
to bring new fans of the A League put it
that way.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
No, I think you're right on that on that front,
and it's goot them. We've got in the win over MacArthur,
didn't it with the Josha penalty, but then didn't bear
fruit for them in Wellington on Sunday afternoon. We'll wait
and see what Michael Valcanis produces for the rest of
this season. As I say, next game four Wellington Phoenix
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away at the Mariners seven o'clock Sunday nights in Gosford,
just before we finished with it, just a wee sneaky
peak ahead at the derby. Over the weekend, Newcastle five
Melbourne victory two Alex Battlato an absolutely brilliant hat trick
for the Jets, are another youngster, Max Caputo, with a
brace for Melbourne City and their four nil win over
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Perth Glory. The Mariners are going down to nil to
Sydney FC, so the pressure easing ever slow slightly on
new Fork tale as boss of Sydney FC. And last
night MacArthur two one winners at home over Adelaide in
a rare Monday night match. That was because MacArthur had
to get back from their European excursions from having won
the Australia couple last season. So after two rounds, no
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team has won two from two and no team has
lost two from two. It is a very even table
to two rounds, Burge, I was just as you were
chatting before about about I can't remember at what point
I hadn't zoned out, but what I have written down
is some of the potential matchups in this derby. You
know you talked about being really excited about it after
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round one. I've jumped on that van wagon too, Man Draker,
James Marking, Sam Cosgrove, Dan Hall Marking, E Fhine is
Carlo Armiento running at Hiroki Sakai Nagasawe and for Strata
kind of battling it out in the middle of the park.
Rufa and Brummer doing the same derby one and it
just needs to get here.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh, when you when you're outlined like that. I mean,
it's just just going to be absolutely brilliant because Wellington
had got so much more, so much more to bring
to the party, a lot more than just say hope.
They've got some genuine, genuine threats, genuine material to work with.
I thought you made a good point before about the
two Japanese boys, because coming in as an import last
year is pretty hard. You know, they came into a
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team that was all over the place. So now you'd
think those second season imports that went through last season
they'll start to show a lot more because it's settled.
So it's really good signs for the derby, isn't it
in terms of seeing the encounter we want to see.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
The Phoenix could go into the derby for the first time,
into a derby ahead of Auckland FC on the table,
goodn't they. I know it's early. I know it's early.
Their second at the moment the Phoenix Auckland FC are third,
separated by gold difference. But look, if the Phoenix were
to win in Gosford on Sunday night, even if Auckland
f C also bet Adelaide, it could well be that
going into the first derby Wellington are a head of
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Auckland on the table, which would be unique again though
it is only early in the season, but looking forward
to that before we can get to the derby. Auckland
f c Adelaide United Saturday five o'clock go Media Phoenix
against the Mayrion is Sunday seven o'clock at Gosford. I
think that wraps us on football Fever for today, Burge,
unless you've got any parting thoughts.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I know, I just think I love the way the
season is developing a ready, especially from the perspective of
the two local teams. It's shaping up superbly it is.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Indeed, we'll have a fresh episode of Football Fever coming
your way next Monday. This is Football Diva.