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January 14, 2025 13 mins

Ziggy Alberts is as dedicated to song-writing as they come. 

The Australian musician picked up the guitar when he was 17, releasing his first EP the following year in 2012.  

He’s best known for his studio album ‘Laps Around the Sun’, which peaked at number 2 on the ARIA charts.  

Alberts told Tim Beveridge that when it comes to creating his music, the first step is relative insanity, the second is all the voices in his head. 

“[Songs are] so mysterious to me,” he revealed. 

“Writing a story that is actually cohesive or comprehendible, that part I’m quite particular about, but I guess that the inspiration of songs, whether it be playing the guitar or a melody, they’re so spontaneous.” 

“They’re such a mystery to me, and have been my whole career.”  

Alberts recently released a new single, ‘Where Does The Love Go?’ - the debut of his next album, ‘New Love’, which releases February. 

‘Where Does The Love Go?’ discusses self-love and awareness, caring for ourselves so that we can care for each other. 

“I read a lot of Buddhism, and it talks a lot about being responsible for that... not seeing the Buddha outside you, and you’ve gotta be, you’ve gotta be the Buddha,” Albert explained. 

“I think we have to be the change we want to see in the world.” 

“It’s so hard to be that kind of loving embodiment of, you know, conducting yourself and communicating in a way that is useful and hopefully breaks down barriers,” he said. 

“I think that’s the challenge of humanity, really.”  

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Mlock event You with You Yes, seven past eight. Ziggy
Alberts is as dedicated to songwriting as it comes. In fact,
his new single is out tomorrow I'm with You, but
we've got a day earlier here it.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
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is choosing head over the height, so I am. Wouldn't
it be fun to let go? Dancing under the sun?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
And starting as young as seventeen? The Australian singers best
known for his studio album That Laps Around the Sun,
which peaked at number two on the ARIA Charts for
Australian and Artist Albums. As You Say, As I Said.
You've just heard a snippet of his unreleased single new
single I'm with You, which is out tomorrow. It's part
of his new album coming out Friday, coming out February

(01:29):
twenty first, and the album is called New Love And
to tell us more, Ziggie Alberts joins me now good morning, matey,
pretty good. Hey, when did your interest in music start?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's a really good question. I thought I knew where
it started. I guess me picking up the guitar and
starting to play was seventeen years old. But I guess
where pray really started was the aerobics classes that my
mother did while she was pregnant with me. That's probably
when music began.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Does that mean that you were you were absorbing music
through the war. What was playing in those classes?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Do you know particularly promisticuous stuff like Destney's Child and
Sultan Pepper. Probably some trashy stuff too, you know, but
it's it's kind of it's given me my pop sensibility
amongst my very serious sentimental songs.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hey, so did you have any particular do you have
any particular influence? That's that's got to be the most
interesting answer I've had that my influencers we learned on
the womb, But in terms of you know, once once
you were sort of out out of the womb and
compass juntae, what who influenced you?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
So, I very early on was listening to Jack Johnson,
which was crazy because we were lucky to do a
run of shows together in Australia and Europe and to
super early pre music. About six years old, seven years old,
I was doing. I was listening to Jack Johnson. I
was influenced by like some rap artists, believe it or not,

(03:09):
like Horror Show, who are from the Inner West Sydney,
I mean early footage. It's such as such an interesting
question because I thought I knew the answer, and then
recently I rewatched a movie called The Freeway, which is
a which is a surfer singer songwriter movie, and I
didn't realize how many of those songs between John Butler,

(03:31):
Matt Mchew, The Beautiful Girls, Xavier Rude, Jack Johnson, Donovan
Frankin Rder all these people definitely influenced me in my
subconscious more than I thought. And that was maybe like
twelve or thirteen years old they were, you know, so yeah, man,
it's been a crazy right I think, probably in my
young adult at eighteen. I'm now thirty, so I get
to say young adults the past. At around eighteen, I

(03:53):
discovered Ben Howard from the UK and he's kind of
I would say he has inspired so many of us
singer stung writers. You know. Jack Johnson's like the original goat,
greatest of all time, and Ben Howard probably was the
next gen who really broke into a world stage as
a surfer sing a songwriter. Ye.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
So you know when when you're approaching the creative process
writing songs and stuff, what comes first in your mind?
Are you thinking rhythm and the guitar or are you
thinking you've got a lyric and a melody in mind?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh? Yeah, the first steps relative insanity. Second is all
the voices in my head. And it's I think I
think too recently about songs. They're so they're so mysterious
to me. The writing a story that is actually cohesive
or comfort comprehendible, that part n't quite particular about. But

(04:43):
I guess that the inspiration of songs, whether it be
playing the guitar or a melody, they're so spontaneous. There's
so there's such a there's such a mystery to me
and have been my whole career. I would say an idea,
an idea, and lyrics come first. A melody or an
idea comes first, and typically the guitar second. But there's

(05:03):
also times you're just twiddling away camping or backstage, and yeah,
I'd have to say it's and even mix of the both.
But in total it is a mystery in.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Terms of, you know, the creating the finished product. Do
you get outside input from producers and stuff? What are
you you're doing? You're doing a lot of it yourself.
You're driving the whole thing, that the rhythm, that the
whole the finished product versus you know, the initial moment
of inspiration.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, I'm actually I'm definitely not a multi instrumentalist. I
could play a couple of instruments, but like I work
with other musicians all the time. I work with other
musicians all the time, and producers and I typical work alongside.
I'll co produce the recford like Laps and Love of
Both with Garret Cato, and we are pretty I definitely

(05:49):
I feedback from managers and stuff like that, but I'd
say the initial concept is me and then the producing
and recording and the production and engineering is absolutely a
co project, you know, where the guys have the skills
and I have ideas and the.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Mess So, Ziggie, when did you decide on it that
this is it? I'm going to go for it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I think I was nineteen nineteen. I quit, you know,
I quit any other other jobs that I had, I
quit any other jobs and I just went for it.
So probably nineteen years old, my logic was, my logic
was simple and genius. I was going to be just
as broke as work in the cafe, but I'd have
more time to serve. So it was a big career decision.

(06:28):
And then year lo and behold. Now already eleven years later,
it's just what a crazy journey I've been. I've been
a musician my whole adult life. You know, I've been
a musician. I've been I've been like full time muso
a third of my life, which is just insanity to me.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
What's your favorite part of being a performing There might
be all of the above, but is it the live
gigs type of thing or do you enjoy recording and
collaborating with you with other musicians and putting something together?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, I'm a big a I'd say if I think
about I think the delivery to people. I think when
you were performing your lives, your live your music to
people and you're getting that togetherness thing, You're getting that
together this vibe that's pretty special. That's like that that
that connection with people in that community is just like

(07:20):
whoa you know, that's that's that's magical. I'd say that
would be like you said all of the above, but
if there's a point of difference, some people hate playing
live and some people hate touring, whereas like I'm a
road dog through and through. I've always toured and probably
always will to it. I just love the open road
and the people you get to meet.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Favorite venue.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Well, last played and said I really like the town
Hall in Auckland, right, Yeah, that was that was a cracker. Yeah,
I played there. As far as that's I haven't played
enough for New Zealand recently. Obviously we were locked out
for a minute, but I feel like I really hope
that we get back to some shows in the summer.
I don't know who you guys got coming out, but
I would love to be some of the some of

(08:05):
the crew across the ditch that do make it over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Hey, actually I did a bit of a Google of
you as I was doing some research, and I found
two different Ziggy Alberts. When was this long haired surfer
looking dude. He looks like he's auditioning for Jesus Christ Superstar.
And then there's the guy I'm talking to now who
he could easily be in a Great Gatsby movie or something.
What happened?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Wow, that's that's a useful question. What happened trauma?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Sorry, I was just curious because that's quite a transformation.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh, I think I got I got sick of I
got sick of the dangerous. To be honest, I just
got sick of just just sweat and bullets. I got
my mum hungarian. And so I've got the hair like
I thick hair, hair, a stick as it comes kind
of thing. And I think at some point I was
just like, I want to change, and I've never gotten
that that. I've never had it that long since. However,

(09:04):
I am thinking, I don't know if you can see,
but I might just actually do the back. I might
just get the back growing all the way down to
the shoulders again.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, it's it's slightly turned malto shit. It's good. It's good. Look,
we won't we won't dwell on it. I just thought people.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Were front, got to be fun and totally bogun on
the back. That's what that's my that's my new era.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Let's talk about weird as love go. What is what's
that song about? For you?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I do have some thought that. I think I read
a lot of Buddhism and it talks a lot about
being responsible for that, not seeing the butdder outside you,
and you've got to be You've got to be the Buddha.
And I think that's like, that's a that's a Buddhist terming,
but like, I think we have to be the change

(09:53):
you want to see in the world. And I think
that it's easy, Just like this morning, arguing with my father,
that's so hard. It's so hard to be that kind
of loving embodiment of of you know, conducting yourself and
communicating in a way that is useful and hopefully breaks
down barriers. And I think that's the challenge of humanity really,

(10:13):
And so I guess it poses the question where does
it go if we don't do it? And I think
that I think that's what we see it does. I
think it goes dormant, and I think it can disappear.
And I think we're seeing that in war to walk
countries where we see a men's divide between ideas or
ideologies or religions. We see that in ourselves. I see
that on myself, I see it on my personal relationships.

(10:34):
And so it's a call and reminded to be like, well,
I've got to do it. We've got to do it,
and we don't know how far that paymeates out. You know,
It's like in traffic. I know this is such a
ridiculous thing to say, but like, you know, when you
let somebody in traffic, I've seen this happen. You let
someone in, they give you a way because it's like wow,
I see you, and then they let somebody else in traffic,

(10:57):
and all of a sudden, you haven't got road rates.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's so simple, and I guess that's a good way
to describe It's a very simple song. But I think
it's like something we've been battling since the dawn of time,
haven't something we're probably going to be working on for
a little while.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's funny, it's funny you should say that, because I
was actually thinking how much happy a society would be
if everyone just gave way to each other in traffic.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah. Hey, look, it's been a decade long journey for you.
How do you look back at your older music? What
do you what do you what do you think of it?
Do you write the guy who wrote that some of
your early stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Do.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I look at all that stuff and I'm like, man,
I wish I was I wish I look back at that.
I look back at that stuff, and I think to myself,
I hope I can do something that good now. Mhmm.
You know, I look at I look at early. I
look at early stuff. Maybe different to other artists to
be interesting, I'm sure you get a bunch of different answers.
But for me, what I see is innocence, and in

(11:55):
some sense the purest this is me as like best
as I can show it.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
There's no there's no peripheral What have I done? What
do I need to do? It's just doing. And so
for me, I looked back at that early stuff and
I'm like, man, I should have quit while I'm a head. Huh.
What I'm hoping is that maybe we can with the
new Love album. Who knows, maybe we can, maybe we

(12:21):
can trump you know what. But I'm so mentally grateful
man to think, like to think that anybody to think
that anybody even enjoys, you know, if they enjoy you old,
if they enjoy your early work, great, if they love
your later work great, Like what a yeah? What a what?
A blessing that anyone likes you work at all.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, hey, Zicky mate, it's been an absolute pleasure to
talk with you.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I really appreciate your time and I hope we can
see you in New Zealand sometimes sooner.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, we haven't announced anything, but I'm working on plans
for the summer. I wanted to shout out all the
crew because we've always had a really good connection across
the ditch and last year's shows was it last year
twenty twenty three, we had some really good shows around December,
and I'm hoping to make some more shows in twenty
twenty five as well. So thanks to everybody over there.
And I hope everyone has a beautiful little break pere

(13:08):
and that the weather is good and that you get sunburn,
not too sunburn, but you feel the sun.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes, slap slap slap mate, that sun's green on. Hey, thanks, hey,
all the best for the new album. Thanks so much
for your time. We'll catch you again. And that was
Ziggi Alberts. So what a good guy. Hey, I really
enjoyed that. I really enjoyed chat with him. Just now.

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