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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, and welcome to the Habitat by Razine podcast. If
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Back in the studio with.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Us today is a Nique Ronelle, jewelry designer and freelance stylist.
So Anick, Thanks for popping back in again. Oh it's
lovely to see you. And how did you start out
on this road?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh my gosh, this is kind of I've got a
weird and kind of abstract way of getting here. But
I actually started my career as a nurse, and I
was traveling the world doing that and lived in the
UK and France, and I was looking at coming home
and I got offered a job weirdly enough here and
I've got this in comment. I work for the TV
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production Shortland Street, a miracle writer.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I did, did you really?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I did?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So I got into that and when I had my
children in quite quick succession, I ended up at home
with them and I started writing for Your Home and
Garden Home style and habitat, and that sort of grew
into the sort of art direction and styling for them,
and I am, oh, my gosh, that's I'm just not
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a convoluted way of getting here.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
It's my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Isn't it funny though, that when you find your way
to something, and especially when it's been quite round about
by the sounds of it, and you end up in
a place and you're like, yeah, this is where I've
always meant to be.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, it really is, you know. I remember being in
my last year at school and talking to mom and
dad about what I wanted to do as a career,
and I was like, I think I really want to
do interior as I and this is back in the
early nineties, and they're like, not very stable, don't know
about that, And so I ended up going into nursing
and yeah, I just I've found my path back to
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sort of what I always Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You follow, yeah, yeah, but I think that's that can
be said also for people's homes.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Quite often we go I.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Have to do this because it has to be light.
You know that you're talking about darkened spaces.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
How do you deal with clients like that?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Oh look, it's really tricky.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Because you know they've hired you to to help them,
but you've got to sort of appreciate that they're the
ones that live in the home, right. I think if
they've got amazing art and it needs to be highlighted,
definitely and neutral white wall is always going to.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Work, but with an undertone. With an undertone, it's a
lovely undertone that's not you know that. I mean often
I kind of go, okay, well, if it's a beautiful artwork,
it's got quite a prominent color in there, yes, and
then paint your neutral with that, which is lovely and
it's just an that's kind of a it's kind of
a simple way to start. I think if they've got
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a piece of art where they really love and the
very drawn to, then perhaps it's a color from that
that they can absolutely and then make that connection.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeap.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It can be in a rug or you know, a
vase nearby. It doesn't have to necessarily always be paint.
But I think using those sort of areas of your
home that are sort of like transverse areas where you
go through a hallway or a stair well, you know,
they can stay neutral. That's that's probably quite a good idea.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think it's really really important that you carry your
palette through your entire home. And that means for those
sort of service areas like your laundry and your bathrooms.
It doesn't have to be painted in a bright color,
but draw you know, the flowers or something that you
have in there to tie your rooms together, and it
just creates that lovely visual cohesion as you move through
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a home.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Absolutely, And I think that it's definitely important to have
like a mood board. And I think that's a wonderful
thing for people to do because then they can see
the colors that they're looking to use, perhaps images of
their artwork, images of their furniture, all of the things.
If you put them all onto a board together, you
can immediately see what's going to work and what's not working.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And it's so.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Easy these days, right, you know, you've got Pinterest, We've
got apps on our phone. It's so easy to do it.
And I love, I love a mood board and it
makes it and if you're working for a client, you
can instantly see their vision and you can work within that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So do you have a go to tool that perhaps
our listeners might be able to utilize for this too.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Test pots. I love test pots?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How good are they?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Brilliant?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You know, you can create an amazing little visual artwork
with some masking tape and test pots at home.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, if you're feeling confident, you could even
create a geometric wall art piece.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Do you think that that I love this?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Just anyone can do that because I know you're highly
skilled in it and you do it beautifully for us.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
But do you think that it's you know, do you
think that it's just a bit of practice? I do,
I really, And there's no right or wrong. You know,
Like masking tape is so easy. You just tape out
whatever sort of geometric shape you want. I'd say sort
of more circles and things are a little trickier. So
if you're just happy with straight lines, super easy.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And actually it really creates a point of focus and
a point of difference in a room.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, put it in a playroom or or whatever, and yeah,
super cool. The other thing is blackboard paint, right, you know,
like the Brazine has amazing array of blackboard paint. Can
you and within you know, you paint the walls and
you can change the wallscape with chalk.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I mean it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's wonderful in a kids room as well, right, I mean,
like either a kitchen or a kids room. You can
really create a whole whole area of play totally effectively.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And it's such an easy, cost effective way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, I did want to talk to you today about
styling basics.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I know we covered that off a little bit in our.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
First chain, but have you seen an increase in say, upcycling,
you know, furniture wise, instead of just throwing it away
or selling it, there must be so many other things
that we can do.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I love this, It's one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well, let's tut it through. You know, I have at.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Home the same color as my old front door, the
hot pink. Right. I bought this beautiful old sideboard off
trade me for forty five dollars. Genius, standed it down,
painted it hot pink. Amazing, how wonderful. I know.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I love it and.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's like an afternoon's job.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Right. Well, she's rolled her eyes going not so much.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean it could be, but you know I have
small children that would interrupt me.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But yeah, I love upcycling.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I think it's such a great, easy, sustainable, cost effective
way of changing up something in your home and adding color.
Like if you have an old chair, you know, you
could paint the arms of it. You just paint the
feet of it, just to add a little poper color.
You don't have to reupholster the whole thing, or you know,
just have fun test spots.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Test spots fantastically, aren't they because you can actually test
out all sorts of different colors. So you're doing a chair,
you could test a whole lot of different colors and
then go, yeah, that's the one totally, and then you
can do I love those ones, like have half.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're so cute. Me too, Me too.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think you've done them for us as well. I
have talking about trends, which I know there is not.
You don't naturally go following trends. You go you work
with what works for you. Are you seeing anything that
you think, yeah, that is a piece of me I
could work with that.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I think there's definitely a slight move away from the
grays that we used to have on the walls, right,
I think we're more into warmer whites and things like that.
I also think backdrops for home offices, you know, when
we all went through COVID and we had to have
zoom meetings. I think people have now made an effort
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to sort of the home office and have a really
cool band dr backdrop.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
So I think those are.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
The trends that I see. But other than that, I'm
not really a trend follower. I just do what I like, and.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Which is why we love working with them, because your
work is so it's so personal. Now let's talk about
those warmer neutrals, like what you were talking about in
terms of the colors, like we're seeing you know, razine tea,
razine truffle, things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Those warm tones right, yummy, they're yummy, Whereas we were
seeing a lot of the French gray and that sort
of thing, which I personally adore.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's very Parisian.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But it is cooler, and I think people are naturally
sort of warming at the moment. We've been through quite
a period of cool you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Know, life hasn't been super cozy.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
You've been stuck, and we're.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Kind of going, what a bit of warmth in my home?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
What a bit of you know, you don't have to
jump away and go for a bright orange, but you can,
you can in terms of warmth, but you can go
with a warmer tone, I think, and I think so.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, it's lovely.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Actually, the rice cakes and the parchment and those sorts
of colors eight Bison Hide, which I have at home
and I love.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It, Zine Bison Hide.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
The whole family is so young, so young.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, they're gorgeous, and again they're they're not your cool colors. No,
I mean in terms of trends, we tend to go
in like a It's like fashion, isn't it. We sort
of a ten to twenty year cycle, and then we'll
see them coming back again.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You're like, I missed you. Yeah, it's true, It's very true. Yeah,
who knows grades will be back. I mean grades is
so easy to live with, right, I love a graph
I'm like ufone, very elegant, but they can be cool.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Do you think there's key elements you know, we're talking
about the front door in our last session and particular
areas that can make your home really unique to you.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I mean color is incredibly personal, right, Yeah, when you
go into someone's home, you're entering their personal space.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, and actually what they say within that space it's
like what we.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Wear, you know, yes to an extension of your actually, so.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You're kind of like, okay, in my home, that's a
reflection and what you choose to put out, the artwork
that you choose, you.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Know, even down to what crockery you use. You know,
I have lots of colored.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Crockery and I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
The same everything.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
All my plates, all my dinnerware is all sort of
not brightly colored. It's actually soft. Yeah, pinks and yellows
and blues, same, yep, I feel like, but it is
that thing, you know, that says something about you. And
I think more and more people are pulling away from
the hole. I want my home to be like a hotel,
because I think for a long time we were kind
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of like, Okay, it's got to be a certain way,
and homes are you know, if you're living in a villa,
it needs to be the white walls and so forth,
and yeah, and now I think people are really stretching
away from that and going well, actually.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Which is pleasing because it's taken a long time. I
think we tend to be quite safe here. I admire
people that are willing to try a little bit of
color in their homes. It's hard, you know, to to
move away from the neutrals, but do it, and I
don't think you regret it.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, I mean it's a scary but hugely rewarding.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The thing is, I suppose you can always repaint it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
This is the thing. It is. The most cost effective
transformative decorating door we have is paint.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You can completely change the look and feel of a room.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Within a matter of hours. And it's you know, it's
so easy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And then the styling element is almost like the icing
on the cake, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It is, it's the final flourish.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, you know, I think people can sometimes get a
little bit like trims have to be a different color.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But for me, that's a really elegant finish.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And it's also quite a mature which sounds old, but
it's actually it's actually a really intelligent, I suppose it's
a better word way of designing, because it's showing that
you've got confidence if you color all of the trims,
the sides, the sides, the walls and falling the walls
and the ceiling and the trims all in one color
and just use the finishes as your flourish as you say, Yeah,
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that is a really.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Very elegant, sophisticated it's honestly, it's beautiful and there's nothing
more relaxing than being in a room that is sort
of enveloping you. It is sumptuous and lovely.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh, thanks for talking to us about all those sumptuous
and lovely things, Anie, and we will look forward to
having you back in the studio soon on if these
walls could talk, and thank you for joining us on
if these walls could talk. Remember to send those questions
through to editor at habitat by Razine dot co dot nz.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
See you next time.