March 2, 2025 • 7 mins
I headed up to Hokianga for the last official weekend of summer - take a load off, relax, a few swims, not even think about anything newsy - well, you can't be doing that now, can you? Not in Trump land.
The meeting with Ukraine President Vladimir Zelensky was an unmitigated disaster for the Ukrainian president, who walked out of the meeting after being berated for not being grateful enough for the military aid and financial support the US has given Ukraine in its three-year war with Russia. Zelensky went to the White House to sign a minerals for arms deal - he left with nothing and his political future looks uncertain.
Major European leaders have promised their support for Zelinsky and Ukraine, but how that translates to cold, hard cash and missiles remains to be seen. However much you might find the bombastic posturing of Fox News's Jesse Watters, this is America's economy, this is America's world - like it or not, it's pretty much true.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Kerrywood and Mornings podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He'd b I headed up to the Hoki for the
last official weekend of summer. Take a load off, relax,
few swims, not even think about anything newsy. Oh well,
you can't be doing that now, can you not? In
Trump Land, the meeting with Ukraine President Vladimir Zelensky was
an unmitigated disaster for the Ukrainian president, who walked out
(00:34):
of the meeting after being berated for not being grateful
enough for the military aid and financial support the US
has given Ukraine and its three year war worth. Russia.
J D's riff probably didn't help that as much. According
to commentators, Zelensky went to the White House to sign
a minerals for armsdeal, he left with nothing, and his
(00:55):
political future looks uncertain. Major European leaders have promised their
support for Zelensky and Ukraine, but the how that translates
to cold hard cash and missiles remains to be seen.
However much you might find the bombastic posturing of Fox News,
as Jesse waters, this is America's economy, this is America's world.
(01:21):
Like it or not, It's pretty much true. Whatever the
European leaders decide as regards Ukraine. They know and they
have stated publicly that the USA will be needed to
act as security and however poorly the meeting went, and
I think unmitigated disasters what everybody is referring to it
(01:44):
as Ukraine needs America and America does not need Ukraine.
And Donald Trump has said, if you want billions of
dollars in military support and financial aid, we're not doing
it for goodness and for freedom and democracy, and because
we will act as the world's place policeman and police
(02:07):
an invader that is wrong. We'll do it for money.
We're done, We're done with doing it for ideals. You
want our help, then you have to give us something back.
And I suppose this is all done nicely, nicely underneath
the surface. In the past, there's always countries always want
(02:28):
something for their aid. The US wanted aid for coming
to Britain's assistance during World War Two, and we're going
to give it for nothing. But it's always done behind
closed doors and nicely nicely. Here it was played out
and all it's unglorious reality before a watching world. That's
(02:50):
the way the world has always been. But we've just
never seen it, So not over yet? Is it? So?
That happened? And then the story about meth, and there
was the most heartbreaking interview with a survivor of a
dreadful mode. But I don't even want to say accident.
It wasn't an accident when you've got a meth affected
(03:11):
driver who has plowed into a group of motorcyclists who
are enjoying an early morning ride after getting together having
a great weekend. They're going into town for breakfast and
a driver on the wrong side of the road plows
into them, myth affected, killing three and changing life as
(03:36):
he knows it. For the survivor, it's not an accident.
You can say that we all like to go to
hell in our own way, and we've all got our
own little particular drug of choice, whether it's alcohol or cigarettes,
or cannabis or myth or whatever. But no, I don't
think many people would be saying that, would they, Because
(03:57):
myth doesn't just affect the person who's taking it. We
all know that kids are growing up in violence and
poverty because every spear set is being spent on meth patch,
wars breaking up between gangs, leaving people dead and injured.
Which you might say is God's little pruning fork, but
really that has massive impacts on our health system and
(04:18):
on our police families torn apart because bright young things
become addicts, will steal from their families, lie to them,
manipulate them, do anything they possibly can to get their
hands on the drug. And it's been around for years now.
You can't say, oh, I didn't realize. I didn't I
(04:38):
didn't understand that it would be, that it would be
so addictive, that it would cause so much harm. Everybody knows,
and yet still they use it. People who escaped its
clutches know just how evil and insidious the drug is,
and yet still people are using, and they're using in
greater numbers and in greater quantities than ever before. On
(05:01):
the mic Costing Breakfast, Massive University drug researcher Chris Wilkins
says the increase meth use as a supply side effect.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So essentially there's been a massive increase in industrial sized
production of meth and FIE. I mean traditionally from Southeast Asia,
but now increasingly from other parts of the world like
South America and Mexico. So you know, the seizures have
increased ten times in the last three or five years.
So this is really supply very cheap myth that can
(05:30):
be easily manufactured at low price, and we're just getting
swamped and meth. Essentially, I think this is a real
wake up call because and it's partly a technological driven
thing that we've now got synthetic drugs like myth that
can be produced on large scale at very low price.
But also there's other changes in the market, like a
digital market. You know, encrypted messaging apps, dark nets, and
(05:54):
social media have been used now in a drug market
that's very different from what we might remember. What I
remember is, you know, as a teenager, so you know,
these are all things to keep it aware of.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, that was Chris Wilkins talking to Mike Coskin this morning.
So the only real way to reduce the harm of
this drug is to reduce demand, because they will keep
flooding it. And there We've talked before, and I've interviewed
people before about the supply chain and how easy it
is to get drugs into this country coming down through
the Pacific, easy peasy, and you know, if they lose
(06:28):
a bit on the way through, that's factored in by
the drug manufacturers and the drug suppliers' accountants. You bring
in one hundred thousand kilos, you lose twenty thousand, You're
still going to make a massive profit. Doesn't matter. So
the only real way is to reduce demand, rehabilitate addicts,
(06:48):
and stop people taking it in the first place. There
are schemes, there are programs that are working. They haven't
been rolled out throughout the country. Labor promised to didn't
shock me. National promise to. Don't know where they're at
with that, and I would read really like to find
out where you do have proven drug programs that engage
(07:11):
with the community, where it's treated as a health issue,
that gets people off this insidious drug once and for all.
It was a thirty four percent success rate for a
program in the Far North we've talked about before, not
your sunny fatto self reporting. This is an actual, anonymized
data from police and health. Then we need to roll
(07:35):
it out as a matter of urgency, because the only
way to stop the harm that drugs are causing to
innocent people is to reduce the desire for it, and
I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
For more from carry Wood and Mornings, Listen Live to
News Talks A B from nine am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Kerrywood and Mornings podcast from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He'd b I headed up to the Hoki for the
last official weekend of summer. Take a load off, relax,
few swims, not even think about anything newsy. Oh well,
you can't be doing that now, can you not? In
Trump Land, the meeting with Ukraine President Vladimir Zelensky was
an unmitigated disaster for the Ukrainian president, who walked out
(00:34):
of the meeting after being berated for not being grateful
enough for the military aid and financial support the US
has given Ukraine and its three year war worth. Russia.
J D's riff probably didn't help that as much. According
to commentators, Zelensky went to the White House to sign
a minerals for armsdeal, he left with nothing, and his
(00:55):
political future looks uncertain. Major European leaders have promised their
support for Zelensky and Ukraine, but the how that translates
to cold hard cash and missiles remains to be seen.
However much you might find the bombastic posturing of Fox News,
as Jesse waters, this is America's economy, this is America's world.
(01:21):
Like it or not, It's pretty much true. Whatever the
European leaders decide as regards Ukraine. They know and they
have stated publicly that the USA will be needed to
act as security and however poorly the meeting went, and
I think unmitigated disasters what everybody is referring to it
(01:44):
as Ukraine needs America and America does not need Ukraine.
And Donald Trump has said, if you want billions of
dollars in military support and financial aid, we're not doing
it for goodness and for freedom and democracy, and because
we will act as the world's place policeman and police
(02:07):
an invader that is wrong. We'll do it for money.
We're done, We're done with doing it for ideals. You
want our help, then you have to give us something back.
And I suppose this is all done nicely, nicely underneath
the surface. In the past, there's always countries always want
(02:28):
something for their aid. The US wanted aid for coming
to Britain's assistance during World War Two, and we're going
to give it for nothing. But it's always done behind
closed doors and nicely nicely. Here it was played out
and all it's unglorious reality before a watching world. That's
(02:50):
the way the world has always been. But we've just
never seen it, So not over yet? Is it? So?
That happened? And then the story about meth, and there
was the most heartbreaking interview with a survivor of a
dreadful mode. But I don't even want to say accident.
It wasn't an accident when you've got a meth affected
(03:11):
driver who has plowed into a group of motorcyclists who
are enjoying an early morning ride after getting together having
a great weekend. They're going into town for breakfast and
a driver on the wrong side of the road plows
into them, myth affected, killing three and changing life as
(03:36):
he knows it. For the survivor, it's not an accident.
You can say that we all like to go to
hell in our own way, and we've all got our
own little particular drug of choice, whether it's alcohol or cigarettes,
or cannabis or myth or whatever. But no, I don't
think many people would be saying that, would they, Because
(03:57):
myth doesn't just affect the person who's taking it. We
all know that kids are growing up in violence and
poverty because every spear set is being spent on meth patch,
wars breaking up between gangs, leaving people dead and injured.
Which you might say is God's little pruning fork, but
really that has massive impacts on our health system and
(04:18):
on our police families torn apart because bright young things
become addicts, will steal from their families, lie to them,
manipulate them, do anything they possibly can to get their
hands on the drug. And it's been around for years now.
You can't say, oh, I didn't realize. I didn't I
(04:38):
didn't understand that it would be, that it would be
so addictive, that it would cause so much harm. Everybody knows,
and yet still they use it. People who escaped its
clutches know just how evil and insidious the drug is,
and yet still people are using, and they're using in
greater numbers and in greater quantities than ever before. On
(05:01):
the mic Costing Breakfast, Massive University drug researcher Chris Wilkins
says the increase meth use as a supply side effect.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So essentially there's been a massive increase in industrial sized
production of meth and FIE. I mean traditionally from Southeast Asia,
but now increasingly from other parts of the world like
South America and Mexico. So you know, the seizures have
increased ten times in the last three or five years.
So this is really supply very cheap myth that can
(05:30):
be easily manufactured at low price, and we're just getting
swamped and meth. Essentially, I think this is a real
wake up call because and it's partly a technological driven
thing that we've now got synthetic drugs like myth that
can be produced on large scale at very low price.
But also there's other changes in the market, like a
digital market. You know, encrypted messaging apps, dark nets, and
(05:54):
social media have been used now in a drug market
that's very different from what we might remember. What I
remember is, you know, as a teenager, so you know,
these are all things to keep it aware of.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, that was Chris Wilkins talking to Mike Coskin this morning.
So the only real way to reduce the harm of
this drug is to reduce demand, because they will keep
flooding it. And there We've talked before, and I've interviewed
people before about the supply chain and how easy it
is to get drugs into this country coming down through
the Pacific, easy peasy, and you know, if they lose
(06:28):
a bit on the way through, that's factored in by
the drug manufacturers and the drug suppliers' accountants. You bring
in one hundred thousand kilos, you lose twenty thousand, You're
still going to make a massive profit. Doesn't matter. So
the only real way is to reduce demand, rehabilitate addicts,
(06:48):
and stop people taking it in the first place. There
are schemes, there are programs that are working. They haven't
been rolled out throughout the country. Labor promised to didn't
shock me. National promise to. Don't know where they're at
with that, and I would read really like to find
out where you do have proven drug programs that engage
(07:11):
with the community, where it's treated as a health issue,
that gets people off this insidious drug once and for all.
It was a thirty four percent success rate for a
program in the Far North we've talked about before, not
your sunny fatto self reporting. This is an actual, anonymized
data from police and health. Then we need to roll
(07:35):
it out as a matter of urgency, because the only
way to stop the harm that drugs are causing to
innocent people is to reduce the desire for it, and
I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
For more from carry Wood and Mornings, Listen Live to
News Talks A B from nine am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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