Kerre Woodham: You can't have police on every bus or train

Yesterday afternoon, a woman was taken to hospital in a critical condition after being seriously injured in an assault on board a bus broad daylight. Shortly before 6pm, police confirmed the person had died in the hospital – they said the victim was a passenger on the bus. They say nobody else is at risk at the moment, they know who the alleged offender is, but it's unsettling. This is not the norm, this is not what should be happening. You should be able to board a bus on a quiet Wednesday and get to your destination safely without being abused, without being spat at, without being assaulted, and without being stabbed until you die.  

There's something horribly aberrant about this. We've had a lot of good news recently, the Coalition Government has been talking tough on crime since they were campaigning to be elected, and then we've had the good news announcements of major criminal organisations being busted - Comanchero’s down south, Mongrel Mob in Opotiki. We've had the announcement of more cops on the beat, a visible sign of the police being around, which does so much to make people feel safe and does a lot to prevent crime. There are already about 30 officers working the beat in Auckland City. The total police force on the beat in Auckland will exceed 50, it’s expected to have exceeded 50 by the end of last month. Seventeen officers deployed in Wellington, in Christchurch an extra 10 tramping the footpaths, and by the end of the two-year roll out Coster said there would be 21 officers deployed in each of Auckland's three policing districts, making up 63 additional officers on the beat across the region.  

So that is great, these are good news stories that do make you feel better, but you cannot have a police officer on every bloody bus or every train. You can't even have a security guard on every bus or every train. Incidents like this happen, and then you get the New Zealand Crime and Victim Survey coming along, asking questions, do you feel safe? And you say no, I bloody don't. I don't feel safe when a person can be stabbed on a bus in broad daylight on a Wednesday.  

The sixth New Zealand Crime and Victim Survey that was released in June interviewed thousands of New Zealanders about their experience of crime, whether they reported it or did not report it. Although it should be noted they didn't talk to businesses, and a hell of a lot of crime affected business over the last few years. People said they felt unsafe, despite the fact that crime rates have remained steady over the last three or four years. All of the good news can be forgotten when something as random and as savage as this incident occurs.  

I think the idea of addressing the situations where crime occurs is a good one. If we're looking at families that are at risk, we need to focus on them. So, the Social Investment Agency, that is a good move. Investing in community programs that work is good. Investing in more rehab centres, drug and rehabilitation centres would be excellent. I still don't believe there are nearly enough facilities available for people who want to get help, for families who want loved ones to get help. The promised care in the community for those who are severely disordered, not there, and hasn't been there for a very, very long time. So you've got to look at the drivers of crime as well as crime itself.  

Great, we've got the Coalition Government talking tough on crime, actually making a difference when it comes to getting police on the beat, actually making a difference when it gets more police officers policing, rather than acting as social workers. When you've got drug rings being disrupted, all of this is good. This is feel good stuff, but it only takes one random incident and people are unsettled.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the carrywood of morning's podcast from news
Talk said B.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
There's a police stand up scheduled this morning where more
details on the dreadful stabbing incident yesterday will be released.
Yesterday afternoon, a woman was taken to hospital in a
critical condition after being seriously injured an assault on board
a bus or daylight. Shortly before six pm, police confirmed

(00:35):
the person had died in the hospital. They said the
victim was a passenger on the bus and we're going
to hear more details this morning. They say nobody else
is at risk at the moment. They know who the
alleged defender is. But it's unsettling. This is not the norm.

(00:58):
This is not what should be happening. You should be
able to board a bus on a quiet Wednesday and
get to your destination safely without being abused, without being
spat at, without being assaulted, and without being stabbed until
you die. There's something horribly aberrant about this. And we've

(01:21):
had a lot of good news recently. You know, the
coalition government has been talking tough on crime since they
were campaigning to be elected, and then we've had the
good news announcements of major criminal organizations being busted, common
chairs down South mongrel mob in a Portuguy. We've had

(01:46):
the announcement of more cops on the beat, which is
a visible sign of the police being around, which does
so much to make people feel safe and does a
lot to prevent crime. They're already about thirty officers working

(02:07):
the beat in Auckland City. The total police force on
the beat and Auckland will exceed fifty. It's expected to
have exceeded fifty by the end of last month. Seventeen
offices deployed in Wellington and christ Church, an extra ten
tramping the footpaths, and by the end of the two

(02:27):
year rollout, Costa said there would be twenty one offices
deployed in each of Auckland's three police and districts, making
up sixty three additional offices on the beat across the region.
So that is great. You know, these are good news
stories that do make you feel better. But you cannot
have a police officer on every bloody bus or every train.
You can't even have a security guard on every bus

(02:51):
or every train. Incidents like this happen, and then you
get the New Zealand Crime and Victim Survey coming along
asking questions saying huh do you feel safe, and you
go no, don't. I don't feel safe when a person
can be stabbed on a bus in broad daylight on
a Wednesday. The sixth New Zealand Crime and Victim Survey

(03:16):
that was released in June interviewed thousands of New Zealanders
about their experience of crime, whether they reported it or
did not report it. Although it should be noted they
didn't talk to businesses and a hell of a lot
of crime affected business over the last few years. People
said they felt unsafe. This despite the fact that crime

(03:38):
rates have remained steady, and they've remained steady over the
last three or four years. All of the good news
can be forgotten when something is random and as savage
as this incident occurs. Yep. I think the idea of

(04:01):
addressing the situ suations where crime occurs is a good one.
If we're looking at families that are at risk, we
need to focus on them, so the social the social
investment agency that is a good move. Investing in community

(04:24):
programs that work as good investing in more rehab centers
drug and rehabilitation centers would be excellent. I still don't
believe there are nearly enough facilities available for people who

(04:45):
want to get help, for families who want loved ones
to get help. The promised care in the community for
those who are severely disordered not there and hasn't been
there for a very very long time. So you've got
to look at the drivers of crime as well as

(05:07):
crime itself. So great, we've got the coalition government talking
tough on crime, actually making a difference when it comes
to getting police on the beat, actually making a difference
when it gets more police officers policing rather than acting

(05:27):
as social workers. When you've got drug rings being disrupted.
All of this is good, This is feel good stuff,
but it only takes one random incident and people are unsettled.

(05:50):
How are you feeling like if we're looking at the
sixth New Zealand Crime and Victim Survey it was released
back in June. But when it comes to safety, that
whole busting of the gangs, the commentaries and the muneies excellent.
That made me feel good, That made me feel positive,
that made me feel like things were happening. We were

(06:12):
starting to see a change. This yesterday afternoon unsettling. We
need to hear more details of course, But how are
you feeling? Are you seeing more police around? I'm seeing
fewer gang patches where I'm living, and there used to
be quite a lot in my hood. Fewer gang patches.

(06:34):
That makes me feel better because I don't like the
posture and I don't like the swagger. I'm seeing more police.
I'm hearing from you less about crime. Does that mean
it's not occurring? Love to hear from you.

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