Full Show Podcast: 02 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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How you Got New Zealand doesn't allow a little Welcome
to Matt and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one nine
six for Tuesday, the second of September, Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five. Boy took a hammering in the
show today on my full throw of support for the
CEO who's been slammed online for snatching a hat off
a child at the US Open.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, they got spicy, Spicy.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I produced some further evidence in this defense. But you know,
it started off with that hate Matt fizz, But I
think I turned some people around by the end.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, you'd be the judge on that.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Initially swimming up stream of a sea of hate, but
then I got the lila of support later.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
On great Analogy, Yeah beautifully pot Yeah, and some great
chat about Father's Day as well. What does the perfect
Father's Day look like? And there's a few tigs that
came through. They kind of indicated what we all know
fathers want for Father's Day from the mum. But we yeah,
what about your imagination?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, we let a few let a few texts go
through the keeper on that one. But yeah, great show.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
And give a taste a Kiwi. All right, you seem
busy there you go, Love.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
You a little, big stories, the legal issues, the big
trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams
Afternoons News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
The very good Afternoons You welcome into Tuesday show. Hope
you're doing well. What if you're listening in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Tyler, I've got a question for you. What do you
think when you see a runner with a camel pack
and the little tube that comes out like a drip
into their mouth while they're running.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think the hardcore and a little bit punishing.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right, Yeah, because I've started running such long distances. Now
I'm running the camel pack, but I feel a little
bit humiliated by it because I run so slow. It
just feels like overcool to be carrying this equipment around
with me and the little.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah bang on. If I see someone with a camel pack,
I want them going at a good pace, and usually
they are are pretty impressive individual so that kind of
lets them off the punishing.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
We Yeah, I think i'd like what I'd like to
have is some kind of marker on me to say
how far I've run, because if I've run twenty k
and you're seeing me at the twenty k mark, then
I'm going to be running very slowly and very sweaty. Yeah,
but a lot of people might see me that guy's
got a camel pack on, he's very slow and sweaty,
and they might think it's my first k, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
So you just need to we sign above your head
that you're on K eighteen. So if I'm going a
bit slow and I'm a bit sweaty, yeah, you know
I've run. I've run a good disc and this is this.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Is a real run, not a fun run. So that's
why I need the camel pack. But yeah, I feel
slightly humiliated by the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Does anyone look at you.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Look side glances. I've just had a few comments from
people that you know, follow me on social media or
whatever that see me, and you know, one comment was,
you look like you're running backwards.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Can you please post a picture and chuck it up
on Instagram?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't run them coming on what so you want
me to be not only running with a camel pack
in a little sipper, but also to hold my phone
out and take selfies. Will doing it?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Please?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Is that too much to ask? Right on to today's
show after three o'clock. We didn't get to this yesterday,
but it's coming up on Sunday, big day for dads
around the country, Father's Day. What is the best gift
to get a dad?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay, I'm going to say it. Just let us be yeap,
just let us be Let us be us for a day.
That's all we want. We don't want any presents, we
don't want anything. We just want to hear that we
loved maybe a bit of brecky and then you go
be you with your mates for the day. You get
out of the house, you know everything sort of hall pass.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
That sounds like blessed that. Yeah, that is after three o'clock.
After two o'clock, you would have seen this video. It's
everywhere at the moment. The man who was caught on
cameras snatching a hat off a young boy at the
US Open has said that he made a huge mistake.
After the footage of the incident has gone viral, they've
tracked him down. His name is Peter Shsherick. He's a
Polish chief executive of a paving firm, and said he

(03:59):
was convinced the tennis star Camille Mike Harzak had been
passing the hat in his direction.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Look, I'm on the outside on this as an issue,
but I think he's been unfairly stitched up. And I've
gone through the footage closely, and I think this is
just shaming on a global scale. We're just so keen
to find someone to name and shame and go. He's
he's the worst person in the world without seeing what
was before it, Because what's before it's interesting, and after

(04:27):
it's interesting. In his behavior afterwards and who he is
as a person, I think a lot of it as
we go. CEO, he's rich, so I hate him, which
is a horrible new way of thinking that seems to
have slight slider cost parts of the Internet. So whether
it's a CEO, whoever, he is irrelevant towards his behavior,
and I think I can put an argument together that

(04:48):
he has done nothing wrong here.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh that's going to be good. That is after two o'clock.
But right now, let's have a chat about Amazon. So
Amazon Web Services has launched a new Zealand data centers,
a move that is worth about seven point five billion dollars.
So it has been hailed as a game change for
jobs and tech growth, promising around one thousand new jobs
and a big boost for the economy. Some of the
high powered wigs of Amazon Web Services have been in

(05:12):
the country today and did launch some new software that
New Zealand businesses can take advantage of. It's the new
AWS region in New Zealand, and the company itself said
it will help serve the growing demand for cloud services
across the country and empower organizations of all sizes to
accelerate their digital transformation.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
So what do you think of this data center? What
do you think of the investment. Nothing seems to have
been built yet, and these announcements today is a little
bit tricky around what it is, because we want to
see something being built, and you know, if Amazon want
to build something and they're finding it hard to build
something because of whatever regulations that are being slapped on them,
or if they're finding something they're concerned about our power prices, Yeah,

(05:54):
we'll look into all that. Then that might be a
question of whether we are geared up to have big
investment in this country and what we need to change absolutely.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
So there's a big deep dive by Chris Kell, you
can read it on the Herald now. So he's visited
the site where this new data center was originally slated
for but at present so there's no workers, there's no
dig there's no real progress. But Amazon at this stage
refuses to confirm what's happening, citing security reasons and it
may have stalled due to high energy costs. So looking
forward to your thoughts on this. One oh eight, one

(06:23):
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Coming up,
we are going to have a chat with Peter Griffin,
tech commentator. If you've got a question for Peter about
this deal. Nine two ninety two is the text number,
but he is coming up next. It is eleven past one.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
talk za'd be.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Z it'd b It's fourteen past one. So what do
we make of the Amazon Web Services announcements and the
data centers. Peter Griffin is a Wellington based science and
technology journalist with twenty years experience in the New Zealand
Media covering science, technology and media. And he joins us
on the line now and he's been all over the story. Peter,
very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Hey, let's go right back to basics. A. What are
we talking about here? What is a data center? And
what are they looking at building aws?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Well, you know, we've all moved into the digital world
over the last twenty years, and it used to be
that a lot of those computer service they sat all
over the place and businesses all over our major cities.
And it's become a lot more efficient over the last
ten to fifteen years to move all of that computer
equipment into centralized facilities called data centers, where there are

(07:41):
racks and racks and racks of this equipment. It's more
efficient to power these facilities, easier to secure them, and
to have lots of computer capacity in one place. So
that's not a new thing, but we've sort of missed
out until recently on the big data center boom that's
happened over seas, where the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, and

(08:02):
Google have been spending billions and billions on these data centers.
About four years ago, Amazon said it was actually going
to start building these data centers in New Zealand. It's
been a long process since then. The economy has sort
of tanked since they made this announcement. But just today
they announced they're open for business finally for these data
centers in the Auckland region and the investment they claim

(08:25):
will be seven and a half billion over fifteen years
between building the things, staffing them, and the training that
goes along with encouraging Kiwis to use them.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So they are actually going to build these centers, and
there's talk about three availability zones, so they have committed
to actually building these three physical structures in New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Well it's interesting because they I think at one point
they set out to physically build at least one data center,
but they ran into trouble in West Auckland with the
site that they chose with drainage there, so all works
stopped on that and it hasn't continued. What they've pivoted
to is basically using co location, which is putting all

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of your equipment and infrastructure into other people's data centers.
Now they won't say who those companies are. I've got
my suspicions because there's only a small number of companies
in the Auckland region doing it. Aws Amazons say, it
doesn't really matter who it is. We can tell you
from a security point of view, but we have three
facilities that if there's an emergency, like one of them

(09:35):
is knocked out, there's always going to be backup capacity.
They will automatically switch over to these other two that
are within one hundred kilometers of the other one.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
So is that just going to be a temporary situation
cookooing and on those other centers and they're eventually going
to continue to build they actually build these things because
I say that they that drainage issue has been solved
now or is that just going to be it? Are
they just are they going to slide them in with
existing data centers?

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Well for the moment that the saying they've got the
three data centers, they're co locating at the moment. But look,
you know this is a very fast growing area, particularly
with the advent of artificial intelligence, the likes of chat,
GPT type services. Amazon service up its own services and
allows any New Zealand business to do that. So the

(10:27):
growth is pretty much exponential in the data and the
computing power that you need to run all of this
artificial intelligence stuff. So there's a good chance they do
own that patch of land. If they can remediate that proper,
properly in the coming years, they will have space to
build another one, and I think we'll see Microsoft, Google

(10:49):
and others doing that as well.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So the seven point five billion dollar figure that we've
been hearing in the one thousand jobs, is that still
a thing? Is that still going to happen even if
there isn't just yet any construction.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, Well, they've committed again today to all of those figures.
So the thousand staff, they've been pretty clear from the
start that most of those staff will not be in
construction or in aws own workforce. The thousands, the thousand
jobs that are going to be created come downstream, so

(11:28):
all the startups that it's easier for them to spin
up a company and use all of these AI tools
in the cloud in this local data center. They're saying
that there's going to be more economic development as a
result of more companies using the cloud. So that's where
the bulk of the job numbers come from. One hundred
thousand ki We's trained sounds really impressive. They've already done

(11:51):
fifty thousand but it's hard to know exactly. You know,
it's that a free sort of two hour course you
can do.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Ann Yeah, you cand of I use cloud storage every day.
Does that mean I'm trained?

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Well, you probably have to go onto a ws's website
and do a tutorial or something like that. So there'll
be a lot of people in that boat. But the
reality is, you know, we've got a bit of a
crisis in our education system at the moment. But the
reality is, if you can go now out of high school,
you can do an eight week or twelve week course

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and become proficient in the entry level stuff to work
on cloud platforms, and that potentially is a pathway to
a seventy or eighty thousand dollars job. So I think
there is something in this that we get hung up
about tertiary qualifications and that when actually know these sorts
of companies, salesforces, a lot of them offering free qualifications

(12:45):
and certifications that you can get. The flip side of
that is that you know they want you tied to
their platform. They want you an expert in Salesforce or
SAP or Amazon. They don't care about giving you general
artificial intelligence skills. It's really about building a workforce for
their platform.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah. Interesting, there's been a lot of concern about this
deal in the energy consumption and whether we've got the
energy of the structure to supply the likes of these
data centers. Is that a fair criticism and could that
be why the infrastructure of these data centers has been holded.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
I don't think it's altered them or led to any delays,
but it is a valid issue because the government is
basically when they look at the future energy makeup of
New Zealand and usage, they're saying by twenty thirty, potentially
up to seven percent off energy use could be for
data centers. That shows just how this digital economy is

(13:39):
growing very quickly. There is a lot of renewable energy
coming online. And it's sort of notable that AWS has
done a specific deal with Mercury to use a wind
energy from the Turretia South Wind Farm, so they've done
a long term deal to get guaranteed access to energy.

(14:00):
Contact Energy did a similar deal with Microsoft, a ten
year deal. So these big tech companies have come in here,
they've locked up deals with these energy companies, and the
energy companies are basically saying this is essential to us
commissioning new wind farms solar farms. If we have big
anchor tenants in the form of these tech companies, that

(14:23):
gives us the confidence to raise investment and build more
of these. The question is we're already very strained in
our energy capacity. If we have a winter where the
lake levels are very low, where there is much wind
and people are using energy in the evenings during the winter,
is this going to put pressure on our overall grid?

(14:45):
And potentially that is the case unless we can get
enough capacity that's going to be coming online in the
next five to ten years to absorb this new demand
from data centers.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well, surely all hands should be the will to do that.
We should be a nation within all our assets of
the hydropower, etc. That we can build further support to
the grid such that huge companies can come in here.
And if we don't do that, then we're kind of
stuck in a cycle of nothing big ever happening. When
it comes to the data, Peter, is it just New

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Zealand data that they're looking at storing here or is
it data from all around the world. And if that's
the case, what is our capacity for bringing data in
and out of the country.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Look, I don't think the actual physical pipes that transfer
data in and out of the country is an issue.
There's lots of capacity there. You've got new players that
have plans for even more subse cable, so I don't
think that's an issue. If you're a New Zealand company.
One of the big pitches here is not only are

(15:51):
you closer to a data center, so if you're doing
a real time service like a chatbot, you know the
delay or lag in getting an answer back will be
lower because it's just going to Auckland for it rather
than Silicon Valley or Australia. So that's a pitch. But
also you can keep all of your data within New
Zealand's borders. So a lot of companies and government departments

(16:15):
are a bit leary about sending a lot of sensitive
data overseas to other jurisdictions. So AWS is saying we
can guarantee all the data if you want it to
stay within New Zealand, we can guarantee that you will
do that.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Why do you think there's the everyone's lining up to
be negative about this thing across the media. There's there's
a lot of stones being thrown at the thing. Do
you think it's a positive thing and what do you
think people are being negative about it?

Speaker 5 (16:43):
I think overall, you know, we're in an environment where
and we've just seen discussion of this with the you know,
the five million dollar home threshold that Winston Teeters has
struck a deal around, it's really difficult to get companies
and high net worth individuals to invest in New Zealand.
We're a developed country, but we just don't fit investment

(17:09):
profile a lot of them. So anything where we're seeing
literally billions of dollars come in an investment, that is
a really good thing. But the worm has turned a
little bit on big tech when it comes to these
data centers because it really is suring up it's sort
of cozy duopoly or oligopoly that these companies have over

(17:31):
our data and increasingly over our energy supply as well.
And a lot of people are like, where is the sovereignty?
How do we steer our own destiny rather than just
give all of our valuable data to these three or
four big American companies.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, interesting. So just to clarify, this will primarily
be New Zealand data as opposed to you know, just
increasing capacity for Amazon's data storage around the world and usage.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, well it's not efficient for them to be sending
you loads of data from other parts of the world here.
This will be primarily for New Zealand users, and that's
going to be the big question. You know, Amazon did
four hundred and twenty odd million in revenue in New
Zealand last year. Is there actually, given the sluggish economy,
enough growth for them to make a decent return on

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this in the next few years. That's going to be
the question.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, Peter, really good to get your analysis and thoughts.
Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
That is Peter Griffin, tech tech commentator and some interesting
thoughts there. So ken you hear from you. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, bloody interesting. So what do you think about this
whole AWS data center situation in the seven four point
five billion dollar investment?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah? Are you excited or do you have concerns? Let
us know your thoughts. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is a number to call. Twenty six past.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
One, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic
asking breakfast.

Speaker 8 (18:53):
So we got there at last the deal's been struck.
For the Golden visa holders, they can buy or build
a house to the value of five million dollars plus
the crystal actions back with.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
I mean the cool things.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
We've had three hundred applicants applying for less active for
vesta visa.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
That's almost two billion dollars. We didn't have an economy
on April one.

Speaker 11 (19:07):
That's now here.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
Winston Peter's New Zealand First Leader is with us. Did
you have to get dragged kicking and screaming to this
particular conclusion.

Speaker 10 (19:15):
My ANXI was about those who have said in the
mainstream media they can't get their head around it. The
business not changed through the foreign buyers man, it's a
change to the investment rules to attract people to come
to this country for money that we definately need.

Speaker 8 (19:27):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Maylee's Real.

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Speaker 12 (19:34):
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Speaker 3 (19:34):
Amazon Web Services, as we know, has committed to New
Zealand seven point five billion dollars worth of investment one
thousand jobs. They say, do we need to do whatever
is necessary to attract these high wealth companies and individuals
along with them with infrastructure investment, energy or do you
have some concerns with the likes of Amazon coming into
New Zealand. Love to your thoughts. So eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty as the number to call. He pertects

(19:56):
coming through on nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Hi guys re Data centers in Westalk were not only
is high power demand, but what about the massive demand
for water for cooling when we already have concerns for
Auckland's dam supply and for the white cattle. Yeah, that's true.
They need a lot of calling. Those things run hot.

Speaker 11 (20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean, I've got a little animation company and we
have our render blades, and boy did they run hot.
And we're only looking five of those.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Do you have to call those just out of interest? Yeah, yep, yep.
So you just got to keep them well ventilated.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, there's huge calling on them.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
It's crazy technology.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
That they run very very hot.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah. And this one here, presumably these operations run twenty
four hours a day. Wind and solar power are not
going to provide anything like the power they need. It
sounds like they are to be another aluminum plant jack
up where they get guaranteed supply at very low prices
and we pay for it.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
The sticks is said more right wing bollocks. We don't
want that asshole Jeff Bezos's money. Is there no one
here in New Zealand that can set up a data center? Well,
I mean there's no one that's offering of seven point
five billion dollars in there? Is there anyone that's positive
about this? God damn it? And the text machine?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yep, here we go, Matt and Tyler has to be
a good things. My book for there ago well done.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
We desperately need investment in this country, so a good start.
There'll be plenty of naysayers yep, against it, large basically
on hatred of big companies. Yeah, that last one. I mean,
what we don't want that ahole Jeff Bezos's money?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, I think we do. He's got a lot of
it and we want it absolutely. But if you if
you've got concerns about this, generally keen to hear from
you on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What
is the big concerns about the likes of Amazon? Is
it because you think it's a big, bad silicon company
that is doing bad things around the world. I don't
quite understand that. Like I know, they get a lot
of stick, but they've got a lot of money. And

(21:43):
if we can clip the ticket on some of that
money that these guys are pumping in, and that's good
for our economy.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
And everything that we're pointing out towards the power with
the problem with power in our country, we need to
be sorting that out. Yeah. So if we think that
we need our economy to grow, and I think everyone does,
or most people, and there's some people that don't, but
for it to grow, we need to sort out the
amount of energy we have in the country. Whatever way
we do that, that needs to be sorted out because

(22:11):
every piece of economic growth needs more energy. We need electricity,
that's for sure. Please pronounce data, gentlemen. I got laughed
at when I lived in London and was building one.
So change by pronunciation. Pronunciation.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
It is data data, data, data, data, the data data deder. Okay,
let's stick with data, the.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Data, the data centeria data.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Thank you, thank you for that. Teach data data. Oh
one hundred eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's quite posh, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
The data data Very English? It is twenty seven to two.

Speaker 13 (22:49):
You talk say headlines with blue bubble taxis that's no
trouble with a blue bubble. Nurses say patience safety has
been compromised by a lack of staffing. The issue has
caused about thirty six thousand nurses, midwives and healthcare assistants
to walk off the job today, with another strike planned
for Thursday. Northland police have arrested seven people on a

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number of charges and recovered about one hundred thousand dollars
worth of stolen vehicles during a two week operation. Sixteen
search warrants were executed in the region targeting drug supply,
gang members and associates. Winston Peters believes ninety nine percent
of the property market is still denied to foreign buyers

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and says a foreign buyers ban still stands. New rules
men active in Vesta plus visa holders can now buy
or build one home in New Zealand if it's worth
at least five million dollars and after more than nine
decades in Auckland's Queen's Arcade, Marbeck's record retailer all sharp
next month moving to online trade, being AI fined fifty

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thousand dollars over NZX breaches. Find out more at NZ
Herald premium. Now back to Matt Heith and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Thank you very much, Susie. So Amazon Web Services they
have committed to New Zealand are the hypers seven point
four billion dollars worth of an investment, one thousand jobs.
So do we actually need to do whatever is necessary
to get these guys up and running in the country.
It appears that work has stopped for the time being
on the data center, the site they originally purchased, and
there's talk about maybe moving into a sharing space with

(24:24):
other data centers, but no doubt about it. They've been
in the country today launching the new region WIDEAWS software
for businesses. But they have said they are and remain
committed to this country.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah. Well, tech commentator Peter Griffiths says, we need to
do more to attract this investment. Boys. This data data,
this data bank requires heaps of power. So could this
mean the building of a nuclear power plant? Well, we've
seen this on the show before. You know, if you
want to have economic growth, then you need to have
more power. Yeah, and we don't seem to have enough

(24:58):
power at the moment, so it's time.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Dan Jones was pretty fizzing on the idea of nuclear power.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Let's get those little modular ones.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Going, yes, go exactly. There's a few teeth coming through
about data or data.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Okay, we can't spend the rest of this hour talking
about it and going back and before I just had
to Okay, what's your natural way of saying it, because
we're not into compelled speech here.

Speaker 12 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Data, data, data, data, Yeah, data data.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
And there was someone mentioned aluminum before I'm going to
sit with aluminum. I kind of like it rolls off
the tongue of the Americans saying, sure, I.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Can't be the only one waiting for Peter Griffin's family
guy laugh. Yeah, Yeah, we let that go through to
the keeper.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, exactly. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I can't believe, says this text that there are so
many negative messages regarding the positive injection of funds into
the New Zealand economy. Crawl out from the rock you
negative people are hiding under and look at the state
of the New Zealand economy and realize that we all
need this.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah right, we've got the calls coming through now, but
we've got to play some messages. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty, and there's a few messages of support and
some people who work in the industry coming through as well,
so we'll get to some of those very shortly. It
is twenty two to two.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Some people really take bezos personally. I mean, it's just
have you meet the guy off. You're spending too much
time on the internet.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
used talks.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
They'd be good afternoon. How do you feel about Amazon
Web Services committing to New Zealand's You think we need
to do whatever we can to get these guys sitting
up shop here or do you have concerns?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Nathan says, we are a tiny white bait and a
massive ocean. We need all the money and investment we
can get. Too much tall poppy syndrome holding us back.
Bring it on, Nathan, It's kind of like the topic
we're going to talk about in the next hour around
the Polish CEO. People just sometimes just hate people simply
because they're successful. Yeah, absolutely, John, welcome to the show.

Speaker 14 (26:54):
Yeah, good afternoon. I just wanted to talk about foreign
investment generally, and that comment that New Zealand needs all
these investment that can get hold of because of our
savings deficiency. Can I just point out something very fundamental
in this context, and that is this that a nation
which is genuinely determined on its own economic betterment will

(27:17):
have absolutely no problem in accumulating, generating and accumulating all
the investment capital that requires. But there is a condition,
as I say, that's only when a nation is genuinely
determined on its own economic betterment. And this has been
the experience in nation after nation. The idea that foreigners

(27:37):
had gained to come into this country with the investment capital.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Oh no, has been shut down.

Speaker 14 (27:45):
Is absolutely naive, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Can you say that, Sorry, John, you just dropped out
for about three seconds, So can you say that last
sentence again that they ended a naive to say the.

Speaker 14 (27:55):
Least, The idea that foreign investors are going to come
in here and we're going to live happily, you know,
on their capital, is something ridiculous. The task for New
Zealanders we have to develop our own industries now. For example,
Bill Birch on the immigration thing, he said done an

(28:19):
annual intake of migrants is essential for New Zealand's economic development,
which is a bit like saying an annual intaker spring
box lines and tumors is essential for the development of
Fuzilian rugby. There are cases where foreign investment is beneficial,
but in most cases it's not the classic example I

(28:42):
set out. I think this last year, Ike the Great,
the big Spanish congloberate, they set up a massive part
in South Carolina town called Dan Dadbol, which is a
very depressed area of the effect for part of the country,
and all the civic leaders were delighted with the massive
investment IQ are going to make and the workers as

(29:04):
well because I could provide jobs and employment opportunities and
all the rest. But they found it didn't work out
that way. In fact, their investment made major headlines back
in Sweden because they are workers were only paid about
a third of what their workers were back in Sweden
because the companies were only paying local wages and the

(29:27):
plant ran all sorts of labor problems and all the
rest of it. So this is what happens generally because
when ambassors move and they're only paid the local wages,
obviously for profit maximization.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
But what about what about Ireland? John, Ireland, as we know,
has had a phenomenal economic turnaround, and part of that
was when they lowered their corporate tax rate to try
and attract these multinational companies. And now you've got the
likes of Apple, Google, Facebook, Pfizer and Intel set up
in Ireland and they are clipping that ticket. So they
have benefited as a nation by by inviting some of

(30:03):
those very wealthy, high net companies into operate and do
business there.

Speaker 14 (30:09):
On the face of it, yes, but it's a risky
investment because multinationals depend a large part on labor costs,
and they can always relocate to other countries which have
lower wages and more grants and incentives.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But I guess they can Apple with any product cut
it like any product can change. So what are you describing?
Do you think the New Zealand was the economy? Do
you prefer the New Zealand economy sort of pre nineteen
eighty four, that sort of protectionist economy that Muldoon was running.

Speaker 14 (30:41):
Well, I've conducted and formal survey, not the most scientific,
but I've spoken to many, many people, mostly in the
older age group, as to whether they think the New
z Element today is a better country than what it
was before nineteen eighty four. Most of our sixty seventy people,
mostly older truck drivers with whom come into contact, not

(31:03):
one person has said, yes, New Zealand's a better country
today nineteen eighty four. People have got to understand that
there's been no national wealth creation. And where these economists
and the commentary get it all wrong. I don't know
why it is, but they simply cannot latch onto the
fact that the productive sectors of those tiny nations with

(31:27):
which we should compare ourselves, that's something enormous. All you've
got to do is when you drive around the roads,
you'll see trucks, for example, with big containers on the back,
and mersk, the big Danish multi natural.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I guess the problem is I guess the problem is John,
that New Zealand had a fantastic economy up to that
point because the UK was buying all our meat and
our products. It was very easy to sell all our
will and our meat, et cetera. And then they joined
the EU and suddenly we're in a position. We are
our entire economy that was doing very well up until
that point, was completely the rug was pulled out for

(32:04):
underneath it. So you know that that government came in,
the long, long, longing covement, came in and looked at
the box and went, we have to do something. And
that has been the path we've been on ever since.
So it wasn't so much that it was yes, you
were forced to change.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (32:19):
We opted for the neoliberal path, okay, and the neoliberal
economic ideology has been completely totally and utterly discredited.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Arn there you go.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Thank you, John, Yeah, passionate and thank you very much
for your thoughts on that one oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Let's get it refocused on Amazon coming to
the country. John Headers thoughts there about multinational corporations coming
into this country. Do you have concerns or do we
need to be attracting these guys? Isn't good for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Appreciate your thoughts, John, but we've got to go to
a commercial break. Many of these businesses will be overseas company.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
He's my wages twelve to two.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams
Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
News TALKSB. We are talking about Amazon Web Services committing
to this country seven point five billion dollars worth of investment,
a thousand jobs. Are you psyched about that or do
you have concerns?

Speaker 12 (33:14):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Guys, can someone tell your previous caller that there are
three hundred and seven Golden Visas already investing in small
and medium New Zealand businesses. That's from Cas Troy. Welcome
to the.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
Show, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
How are you very good? Mate?

Speaker 9 (33:28):
Oh? Wow?

Speaker 7 (33:29):
This is just amazing because we desperately need this investment
and I'm quite shocked at this. You know, these naysayers
out there, they just have to stop being myopic and
think of this as a right wing conspiracy or big
business coming in and doing it. And what they probably
may be shocked at is that this was actually started

(33:49):
by labor led government, So this is just that time
has occurred now, So I wonder what they'd actually say
to that.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yes, good point. It does feel a bit trible sometimes
when you see some of these naysayers and arguments against
this sort of investment.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
I mean, this is needed. You know, seven point five
billion dollars being invested in our country and people are
sitting there saying, you know now that our containers are
driving around with mrsk on the outside of them. Well,
you go to France and you see main freight on
the outside of other containers over there too, which is
a New Zealand company. We've just got to be proud
enough to try and utilize this advantage to be able

(34:24):
to make sure we start our business further and further
and stop being so bloody negative nicely.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, the reaction today was so uniformly negative. It was
sort of like an orchestrated bucket of water throwing over
something that on the surface seemed like something we could
be celebrating.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I just don't understand it. I mean, you know, but
the other day you guys were talking about going to
the Springs tabin and on hunger. I took my wife's
in the air because of something that you guys said.
It was fantastic a local business that is actually trying
to grow itself. Now I know, I'm probably giving them
a plug because it was bloody worth it. And at
the moment, Matt, the accounts on your name there anytime
you're passing your pay for it I'll you know, we've

(35:09):
got to start promoting businesses more and an opportunity like
this from an international organization investing here, they can invest anywhere.
They're coming to New Zealand, let's actually start celebrating it
rather than this tall poppy syndrome.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, well that that you know, the pub you just mentioned,
they got absolutely put through the ringer trying to get
their their their license up and running apps. I mean
for a yeah, bureaucracy.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Bureaucracy is running this country. Let's try and cut the
red tape so we can actually get things, haven't they.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, we're with Detroit and thank you very much for
over a dose of positivity and a bit of reality
to say this is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Mate, always nice to check. Go well guys on hundredsent
agree with John. Life was better before labour turned the
country on its head in the eighties, when we had
less money but houses and necessarily where we will pay
for you to fill potholes take the desirable let out
of taxpayer funded options. Yes, but we were very wealthy
country before nine to eighty four. But once the UK

(36:11):
joined the European Union, they stopped importing our products, so
we were buying them. Muldoon was buying them and stopped
piling them. So that doesn't work as a system. If
your government's buying the produce off your farmers, you eventually
go by bankrupt.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Ye, comparing apples with oranges to use the analogy.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Things were going great from after World War Two up
until that point when the EU formed and the UK
dump duff.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, and we had to change rapidly.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
So that the box when they opened up in eighty four,
they didn't want to see what they saw, but what
they saw led them to make some massive changes exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
And this text here, what is wrong with you in
New Zealand? Stop moaning and whining. It's a good idea,
Give it a go. It honestly seems as though we
have a default position of negativity. We need investment and investors.
Or would we prefer to bury our heads in the
sand and return to the good old days of isolation
and dependence on the good will of other nations to
be our safety val because history shows that's not going
to be reliable.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, And a lot of support for Troy through so
there is people out there that are positive about the
whole thing.

Speaker 9 (37:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, we'll watch the space.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Absolutely great chat, and there'll be a lot more to
come on that story over the next days and weeks,
So look forward to that, right coming up to coming
after two o'clock, looking forward to this chat. You want
to see this video the man who was caught on
camera snatching appearing to snatch, I should say, I had
off a young boy at the US Open. His said
he's made a huge mistake. After the footage went viral

(37:35):
and the pitchforks came out and everyone came after him.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, I believe that this says more about our culture
of name and shame and knee jerk reactions and as
you say, Tyler getting the internet pitchforks out before we
see the true story. Yeah, then it says particularly about
the CEO. So look, I'm not gonna be popular on
this or already the text machine is having a go.
But I've gone through the footage frame by frame, and

(37:58):
I don't think he did what you think he did,
and I don't think he needs to be shamed like
everyone's shamed of.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Get the tases ready, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number?

Speaker 12 (38:08):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
How do you think about the situation? And was the
Internet pilon just a bit much. Keen on your views.
Nineteen nine two is a text number you're listening to
Matt and Tyler. Hope you having a great Tuesday afternoon.
Stay right here. We'll be back very surely.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
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Speaker 3 (38:38):
Later.

Speaker 15 (38:39):
I still get the body of running up work when Mama,
I don't beat me, don't you know me?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Then set down.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Tyler
Adams after us talk.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Zivy get Adu, welcome back into the show. Really good
have you with us? As always, this is going to
be a fascinating chat. So you would have seen this video.
It's everywhere at the moment, the latest internet pylon. The
man who was caught on camera snatching a hat off
a young boy at the US Open, he's come out
and he said he made a huge mistake after the
footage of the incident has gone viral. His name is

(39:32):
Peter Shashurick. He's a Polish chief executive of a paving firm,
and said he was convinced tennis star Camille Mike Hazark
had been passing the hat in his direction.

Speaker 14 (39:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
So, I mean I've watched the footage a number of
times and the immediate response from the intet was name
and shame, and the vitrel came out and it was
sort of on the back of the coldplay ceo, the
cheating CEO. So people were in the punch ceo mode.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
So that was a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Absolutely, nearly every.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Piece of hate started with rich bastard Selfish CEOs are
all bad people. He's a millionaire. Of course, he steals things, yeah,
and all that kind of quite crazy stuff. But if
you actually look at the footage, there's there's a different
interpretation of it, absolutely different interpretation of it. He never
at any point is looking at the boy when he

(40:20):
takes the cap, and you know, people that's saying that
he is he's it doesn't look like he is from
the angler's head, but his head's not actually in the footage. Yeah,
so he you know, he's just cut out there and
he's just a frenzy. His favorite tennis payers. There is
a Polish CEO who's done a lot for tennis and
Poland he's excited about the guy. He was talking to
the player beforehand, knows him personally, he thought that he

(40:41):
was going to that the hat was being there for
his sons. Because he was getting a hat for his sons,
he puts it in the bag for not for himself.
The kid's already got a big ball. The kid's arguably
a spoiled little brat that thinks he deserves it. So
there's a lot to unpack on this. But if you
have not seen the footage, you can text video to
nine two nine two and we'll send it to you, yep,
so you can see what we're talking about. But I

(41:03):
think this is just a case of name and shame
before we think about it.

Speaker 16 (41:06):
So what have you?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
What more was in the apology Tyler?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
So he goes on to say the official policy apology here,
while I bring it up that I quote, I know,
I did something that seemed like consciously collecting a memento
from a child. That wasn't my intention, but it doesn't
change the fact that I hurt the boy and disappointed
the fans. So he's owned up for it, and he's
found the child in question and give him given him

(41:31):
the hat back. But I've also I also say that
the child in question did get a hat from the
tennis player as well, because the tennis player found out
about it, thought, you know, it's a child crying. I
better do the right thing. So he met the fan,
the little boy gave him a hat. Then this CEO
has turned around and said, of course he can have
the hat back.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So are we just so primed to hate and judged
that we immediately before we know the full story, before
we see the footage before, so it's cut specifically to
make it look as bad as possible. We just immediately
go hate this guy, let's ruin his life, terrible human being,
without looking at the totality, ay totality of the situation,
or potentially, you know, thinking of some other scenarios in

(42:13):
which he isn't the most evil person in the world.
And if your knee jit reaction is just to go,
he's a piece of crap because he's a millionaire and
he's a CEO, then that probably says a little thing
something about the levels of jealousy you're running in your life.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Right Absolutely, while we seem to love an internet pylon
and this is the latest. So the question to you,
are these sort of call outs justified in this situation
to hold people to account or do they go too
far and ruin lives over one incident that has quite
likely been misinterpreted.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Well, according to me, according to you, it hasn't been
until you've just flipped on your opinion. Tyler, before you
were saying that you thought he was snatching the hat.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Well, let's put it out to the jury of news
Talk ZB listeners. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
I will say that child was crying, he was screaming,
and where the.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Spoiled brat whether the CEO heard that? I mean, the
CEO's closer to the guy. So this kid that's alreadys
got this massive ball, he's already at in the front row. Anyway, Hey,
I goes. You need to read out the hat thief
statement where he threatened legal action for defamation. You're talking
about this which was fake and showing to be fake.

(43:21):
It was not a comment when everywhere and that's just
what muddes the water on these kind of things. So
a statement that came out from the Polish CEO to shirk,
I understand that some people might not like it, but please,
let's not make a global scandal out of the hat.
It's just a hat. If you were faster you would
have it. Regarding online hate, I remind you that insulting

(43:41):
a public figure is subject to legal liability. He never
said that. And people will just believe something because it's
put out there without taking into account that the people
that put that stuff up get something out of rage
bait and the clicks that come through potentially monetized situation,
or just want to throw fuel on the fire. Some

(44:03):
people just want to see the world.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Burn, certainly do, but he never said that.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
No, So the second relief, second row of hate against
this poor father there with his kids and his wife
just trying to get a hat for his sons was
completely artificial.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
So what do you say, oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. If you want to watch the video, just
text video to nine two ninety two and we'll flick
your link to watch that. But do you think this
is fair punishment the internet pylon for what he did
or do you think this is all just a bit crazy?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
And do you believe in the concept of judge not
lest you be judged yourself?

Speaker 11 (44:37):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Very good afternoon to you. So the online backlash against
this Polish ceo allegedly snatching the hat from a child
at the US Open has been full noise and it
is impacting his business and his life quite severely. So
is it justified to hold people to account or does
this guy a little bit too far to ruin someone's
life over an incident, whether he's snatched that hat off

(45:09):
that little crying kittlenot.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, and it just so happens in the world that
sometimes with the amount of stuff being footage, footage looks
like something and people jump on it, right, and that's
why it becomes so big. But it doesn't mean that
there's the intention is there from the guy? And I
just can't see that intention there. I can't see it,
but a lot of people can. And text video to
nine two ninety two. If you haven't seen the video.

(45:32):
It's the biggest story in the world. But there's some
people that might not have seen it. So you can
text video to nine two nine two and we will
send you a story with that video and it HI.
You're Matt and Tyler completely agree with you. Matt, Jesus
Christ with a crazy blow over nothing thanks a brindle.
Yeah you go, so that's probably the only one that
the ones aborting you. I'm taking a real hammering here.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah. We love it, well, I love it anyway, Tim,
How are you mate?

Speaker 4 (45:58):
I'm well, guys for you?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, very good. What do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Well, it's my own opinion, but it happens to align
with Matt anyone who's got functioning sight, I can see
that the boy was given a tennis ball and then
he looked away all proud of the fact, which is
very nice. He wouldn't want to be in that position,
you know, as a kid. And then the guy, the

(46:25):
player takes his hat off and puts the cap out,
and the guy, the adult takes the hat. Now, little
little Johnny then goes and has a meltdown, But you
know he was he was celebrating his own mind of
victory there, you know exactly. Maybe there's one thing is

(46:45):
it's clear to see what happened, But then you get people,
you know, sticking the boot into this man, you know,
in the seat of some of the introducers to rich
prick into any sentence.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
They've lost me, yeah, because I mean they don't know.
I mean it's now come out how much charity work
this guy does, and how much he's done for impoverished
people getting into tennis, and how much he's done from
the game across the board in Poland. So before they before,
they don't know any of that. Before they go in,
they don't know. You know, how you know how rich

(47:21):
he is irrelevant to how he's behaving, which is which
is the odd part of it. There is a certain
level of jealousy in the situation. So do you think
that there is something wrong with the way we are
piling on as not just as nations but globally. Someone
someone does this at a tournament, and before we have

(47:43):
all the facts, the whole internet tries to destroy his life.
Do you think there's something morally wrong with that? Tim
leading question?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Absolutely, absolutely there is. And there are other cases and
I could, I could offer them up, but people would
go mental, where do it?

Speaker 3 (48:01):
We don't mind that term? No, no, no, no, you
don't want that.

Speaker 9 (48:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I've got to say, Tom, I'm watching the video and
I'm just watching the first couple of seconds again and
again and again, and I reckon he did snatch it,
And I don't care if he's a rich CEO. That
doesn't bother me. It looks to me like he snatched
it off the kid, and the kids freaked out and
had a week tantrum. And I knew that i'd find
him when I saw that video. I knew the Internet
would track that guy down eventually. But even if he

(48:27):
did snatch it the whole pylon and coming after this
guy's business and his family and all the rest of it,
that to me is too far. Even if it is
true that he stole a hat off an innocent child,
is that worth losing your whole life over? I think
that's where I draw the line.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yeah, I don't see how you can say that, Tyler,
A good year got on you. And I'd like to
quote Matthew okay, right, yep, and not myself, Okay, I'd
like to quote Matthew seven to one to six.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Oh, this is going to be good from the Bible.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Do not judge, or you too will be judged for
in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
And with the measure you use, it will be measured
to you powerful and deep.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in
your brother's eye? And pay no intention to the plank
in your own eye or that's your hypocritic.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, I mean that is, that's a big part of it.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
But we do.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I mean, look, honesty call. A lot of people love
a good internet pylon, no doubt about it. What is
it the German word shoulden freuder getting pleasure off someone
else's misfortune. There's an element to that, and it's like
we are their animalistic brain when we see something going on.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I think what's happened here is because people go there
there at the tennis. Oh he's a wealthy guy. There's
all these reasons to already jealousy piled upon jealousy upon
per jealousy. So they take the most negative possible analysis
of what's in front of them. Although Renee disagrees, Matt,

(49:50):
you're a dropkick. He takes the hat from the kid.
I just watch it again, pull your bloody head in
you m up it. Good on your Renee, And look
I can see Rene's point there as well. She makes
she raises some good points.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Very valid.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
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Speaker 1 (51:09):
Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talk zby.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about the
Polish CEO who has come under mass of fire from
the whole world Internet pylon for appearing to snatch a
hat from a young child at the US Open.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Sorry, Renee, I read aut Rene's text and it was
and I said, she, But Renee, is he?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Oh okay?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I thought it might have been renees Elberg at the
Hollywood Soups Star.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
She's a big listener to the show. She loves it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
The guy snatched the hat off a child. This one
action portrays to me that he is a dick, but
I don't know him at Also, my opinion on him
as a person is extremely limited. Don't care if he's rich.
In fact, good for him. We all do stupid stuff.
We don't all have cameras on us. From Nathan, that's
very very balanced, Button. I think that you're presuming that
he snatched the hat. You can't see that he's even looking.

(52:00):
The hat comes out. There's a lot going on. There's
people everywhere the kid's already got a bunch of stuff.
That stuff's being handed out. He's already talk to the
tennis player before. There's been some discussion about the tennis
player giving his son a hat. So the guy, when
the hat comes out, grabs the hat, puts it in
his wife's bag for his kid, and it just so
happens to look like he snatched it. But he's not

(52:23):
looking at the kid. So if he did it, he's
a sneaky he'd be a great pickpocket. Is pretty fast,
it'd be a great thief because he's not looking at
the kid when he grabs it. This guy's tall, This
guy's over six foot. The kid's just this little kid
down there, the sons in his eyes. There's every chance
that he that he didn't. In fact, my reading of
it is that he didn't snatch it. But even at
the start of this, the guy snatched the hat. Yeah,

(52:44):
you know, that's what people say.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
What do you say? That's Matt's view O eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you haven't seen the video,
are nine two ninety two. Just takes video and will
send a copy to you.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Cray your thoughts on this and Internet pylons.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
Yeah, I haven't actually seen the piece you guys are
talking about, but when you'd started with throwing to an instant,
instantly thought of the cold Play situation with couple having
your fear getting caught out, definitely, and.

Speaker 9 (53:12):
You know the guy.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
You know, it's a dog situation, but it just goes
global when it's really something between the two families involved.
But you know, it goes to show the power of
the camera in the modern world and how fast that
stuff spreads, and you can just shut down people's lives, yes,
you know, and their future ability you know, to sort

(53:35):
of go about the business and the world, and that
can happen to any of us.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
Man.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
There's just everyone's got a camera in your pocket, and
it just goes to show I don't know, we need
to I don't know where we take it, because we
can all full victim to any day, really.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
And the hate grows, the hate grows upon the hate
upon the hate, so it becomes a wave of hate
and people are commenting in other people's comments, and in
the situation you get a fake press release from the guy,
there's hate on top of that, and you were just
saying what I rudely talked over you, Craig about the editing.
That's a very good point.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
Yeah, yeah, and like you say, it creates a wave
the algorithms, hats gets passed on. I told two friends,
they told two friends in the next within twenty four hours.
These people's lives can be changed forever. I mean Coldplay concert.
I'm sure there are hundreds of dirty dogs the big

(54:31):
on the big screen. So I don't know, I mean,
this needs some sort of maturity around it, because that's
pretty dangerous stuff, the people's lives, you know, you know, Yeah,
it's an interesting scenario.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
I don't wonder how many people that were piling on
the CEO that was cheating have have been pure of
heart themselves and have never done a career.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
And that's a's a it's a two edge sort of
thing too. I mean, I have recently watched the DOCCO
on the Grace Malaye case. We see the TV footage
was used so powerfully to capture that guy, and so
that is like an readable use of the available technology. Yeah,
but you know there's dark tides as well.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
So yeah, that footage, Craig is harrowing. Before before that
that that grasp Melane footage just the casual nature of
all of it. Seeing all that for real before what happened,
I found that actually deeply disturbing.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, absolutely is. But good on you, Craig. I mean
that's when it comes to the internet pylon. That's the
part I struggle with, even if this guy snatched the
cap or not for one transgression that you've had, say
he did snatch it, even if that's true, to have
your whole life ripped apart and viserated by that one transgression,

(55:48):
which on the scheme of things, is not terribly that bad.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
No, matt If. Yeah, I mean the dis a punishment
fit the crime, matt If. It wasn't meant to be
for the kid? How come the player track down the
kid and gave him the replacement that well, the kid
was crying and it was emotional about it. And the
same reason why the guy that that is accused of
grabbing the cat gave the cap to the kid and
instead of his own to his own kids who he
grabbed it for, because the kid got visibly upstair and

(56:15):
through a bit of a I want the hat in
the crowd. So the tennis player, Polish tennis player is
a good person and thought, well, you know, I've got
plenty of hats I can meet, potentially make myself look
like a great guy on social media. Give the hat
to the kid.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Exactly. It was a tant no doubt about it from
the child. But what do you say I went undred
eighty ten eighty? Is this fear punishment for the CEO.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
But equally as much as I wouldn't ever judge anyone
because I am pure of heart, I would also not
judge the kid for throwing a massive tanty because when
I was a little boy, I threw tanties all over
the shop.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I bet you did.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You did I threw a tanty at Christmas once? When
I won't tell that story.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Oh please tell that story.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Oh maybe you have a think about it? Kids throw tanty.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
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Speaker 3 (58:14):
Thank you very much, Susie. So we're talking about this
Polish ceo. His name is Peter Shasheric and he's been
accused of snatching a hat from a child at the
US Open. He's come out and he said he made
a huge mistake. I quote, I know I did something
that looked like I was snatching a memento from a child.
That wasn't my intention, but doesn't change the fact that
I hurt the boy and disappointed the fans.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
If you can't see that he's snatching the hat, you're
wearing the old rose tinted glasses mate with some PC
cotton wool thrown in for good measure, he takes the
hat like a self important person who had Is it
a good thing? He got sprung? How is that PC?
I think the PC thing is to slam the CEO,
but look you don't.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
It's a small video.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I will say that the point of why we're discussing
is are people to quick to pile on judgment before
they know what's going on. Before the hat was handed
out that the CEO grabbed, he'd had a conversation with
the Polish player they're both Polish, yep, And he said,
I'll give you a hat for one of your sons.
That was confirmed was confirmed, So he had said I'll

(59:22):
get your hat for a son. So when the hat
came out, he thought that was the hat that has
been given to one of his sons. So it popped
up and he grabbed it. The little kid wanted it.
He went to grab it, and he was upset when
he couldn't get it along with all the other stuff
he'd already got, including that big ball. Yes, look it
up in the front road. There's a lot going on.
It's exciting, and everyone's just assumed and piled on and
said because he's a CEO. I mean, every comment's coming through.
And CEOs only get there by trampling on people, and

(59:44):
millionaires only get to the top because they trample on people.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
And this has just proves it, right, Yeah, the rich
hatred is pretty strong also that. But what do you say,
eight one hundred eighty ten eighty does the punishment fit
the crime?

Speaker 9 (59:55):
Mark?

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Welcome with the show after then, gentlemen, there you go.

Speaker 17 (01:00:01):
Thought, Yeah, look Matt, yeah, good good, I agree. I
agree with your mat We saw the mark of time
and it was this like and one of my workmates
that I said, oh god, this is rage bait. Wait
until everyone gets in the back and rips us and
you what this guy you ring? Oh look look, this
sort of stuff's been going on for years. And the
problem with social media is that, as you said, anybody

(01:00:23):
with the phone has spreading your face and it's straight
on social media. It's not just that like the media
itself is pretty good, only giving you the half story
or half the time, you know, and you look brings
like in America, and all of a sudden, you know this,
this twenty one year old guy was shot by the police,

(01:00:43):
you know, after you know, basically being pulled over. But
they don't show you the other hour episode that led
up to that, that sort of situation the next minute
that just caused us absolute rage and racial tension and
god knows what else. And this has been going on
for years since social media come out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
And the problem with it is too is that you know.

Speaker 17 (01:01:04):
We've got large sections of society that are so quickly
to to to rage and judge and get so jealous
you know the next butlinity, you've got quarter of a
million Greater Thornburg's on you, on you, on you behind,
you know, and this is sad way society is. You know,
we're so quick to judge before all the facts. It's
kind of like shoot firs and ask questions later. And

(01:01:27):
the problem is if like you need of the Prime Minister,
like God for bid that he has rentals and expert
you know, being wealthy, he has turned into all negativity
and apparently you know everyone's that's wealthy.

Speaker 9 (01:01:40):
Has done it the dooviiout way.

Speaker 17 (01:01:42):
But you know, and like people that think like that,
they really need to pull their heads out of their
ears and take a really good look at themselves and
if they're jealous of someone big, rich or whatever it is,
you know, do something better with your life instead of
complaining and picking on others just because they're successful and
you're not. You know, we I think, you know, we
have more Karens or not being offensive towards Karens, but

(01:02:04):
their term Karen. You know, that's been a wildly thrown
out everywhere and it's just you know, look at the moment,
as I said, with the media, you know, the Australians
are all outwaving their flags, you know, and basically all
of a sudden, because you're out waving your country's flag,
you're a neo Nazi or something like that. Yeah, that's
I sort of said that. The media is very good

(01:02:26):
also only telling your half the story, you know, until
a couple of days later the full video comes out.
So you know, and like adults too, you know, we
can get excited, you know, as kids too, you know,
like your famous favorite all black sea signatures.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, you know adults. I think you're so right, Mark,
He's so excited. He's such a he may be a
grown man, he may be a CEO, but he is
fanboy excited. He's a huge tennis fan. He's spent a
lot of money helping young people get into tennis and Poland.
He's a huge fan. And he's just feverish to get
some stuff for his sons and his wife that is there.
It's really great for him that he's at the US Open.

(01:03:03):
He's excited and he's a bit feverish and he doesn't
really see the kid. That's my taking of it. But
apparently according to this text machine, that means that I
need to be burnt at the stake. But for having
a generous take on the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
After you now as well? Haven't they bred on?

Speaker 12 (01:03:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Hey, guys, I thought he was hard done by two
great show that's from Karina. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
So does this guy, the CEO Polish CEO, deserve all
the hatred he's getting or is it a bit too much?

Speaker 9 (01:03:30):
Love?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
To get your thoughts on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Social media is the worst. Who cares what other people
are up to? What does it matter? How does it
affect you? Less worrying about what other people are up
to and concentrate on being just a normal, good human
being would result in a better world. Cheers from Steve.
Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Good message there. It is twenty one two three back
very surely you're listening to Matton Tyler.

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Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
They'd be It is nineteen to three, so we're talking
about this Polish CEO who has been accused of snatching
a kid a hat off a kid at the US Open.
He's come out with statement saying he was sorry hurt
the kid, but he didn't mean to do it, et cetera.
But the Internet has decided that he deserves to have
his head lopped off. I said earlier, you know that
I didn't think you know that's judge not yet ye

(01:04:20):
lest you be judge yourself, or to quote it correctly
from the Bible, do not judge, or you too will
be judged. But then I said that the kid threw
it spares and had a tenting and he did, but
I'm not judging that because I threw at his agent
a number of tantrums. In fact, the most embarrassing one
for me that I feel shame to this day was

(01:04:40):
one Christmas. I'd asked for a bike, yep, a BMX
bike night, and my dad, for a joke, decided to
pretend that he hadn't got me one, and so we
all opened our presence and at the end I was
so sure I was going to get a bike, and
then I started going jumping up and down, going where's
my bike? And then and just as my dad was
wheeling it down down the hallway for a gag.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
So shameful.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
So when the bike came in that that shame has
lived with me my whole life. That I I got
upset about just getting this present and my dad had
done this really fantastic thing for me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
He was just playing a dad joke and you had
a massive in there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
And you know, I've tried to get better since I
was six years old, but I have thrown the odd
tanty since.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Then as well, not too many the mate, to be honest, Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Guys, I believe a picture paints a thousand words, but
a video leaves it open to interpretation. And just like
you met, you're getting the pylon for your own interpretation
of the video. Doogie, you think that the CEO is
a dirty dog?

Speaker 9 (01:05:39):
No, I believe he's a drop kick, right, And I
believe I believe that because irrespect of who he is
or what he is, even before we've found out what
he'd done, I asked you this, where's his mona?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Well, so where's his mona?

Speaker 9 (01:06:03):
As an adult to a young kid.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
The manner is that he gave the back when he
realized that he had taken no no, no no, after.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
The after the public outcry. But but I'll say this
to you, a situation and it well in the area
of the situation. If we were all witnessed to that
in New Zealand here, we'd all have a view on
on that individual. Right, So nothing changes because we're human

(01:06:33):
and you just don't do that kind of okay, But.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I mean we can't, Doug, you. We can argue about
whether he did or not. My interpretation is looking at
it that he couldn't see the kid and was just
excited about getting the hat for just let me finish
your Dougie to just have the hat for his kid.
But wouldn't you say that his mana, as you say,
comes from the new evidence that's come out that how
much he's done for poor people in Poland trying to
get into tennis, and he's he's done a huge amount

(01:06:58):
of community work. So you can could you could you
see that that goes in his favor a little bit, Dougie?

Speaker 9 (01:07:05):
No, And you know why I say that. You have
a look. He takes the tennis player takes his that
off with his left hand and passes it to the right.
Have a look at it. The little boy goes to
grab it, The little boy goes to grab it, the
other guy takes it. That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Before, where the tennis player had said, I'll give you
I'm going to give you a hat from my son
that discussed it before.

Speaker 9 (01:07:33):
We don't know that. We don't know that because we
can't hear it. We're only we're in the after event, right,
We're in the after event. So we've all got opinions. Yeah,
but it doesn't matter whether it was conserved or not.
Have a look at the direction.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Why are you why are you so keen to judge
them for it without any you know, why are you?

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
I'm not I'm not judging them. I'm saying in any
other situation, we'd all had the perception that the guy's
a drop kick for doing that to a young kid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
And that was my next well, that was my message
at the end of the day.

Speaker 9 (01:08:11):
At the end of the day, Now we know that
he is it wasn't a millionaire, whatever he was, whatever,
whoever he you know, he's been judged right, and so
what and so what he did. He had no other
choice but to go back and say sorry. Now, he
didn't have to do that, because if he felt that
he was in the right in the first place, then

(01:08:33):
he should have held on to what he believed in
and what he believed in he snatched the hat.

Speaker 13 (01:08:38):
Have a look at the.

Speaker 9 (01:08:39):
Direction of the of the tennis player's left hand and
the direction in which he gave the hat headed to
the young boy. It went to his right, not to
the not to the adult. Check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I've watched it a number of times,
and you can you can interpret a number way. The
way I see is that he can't. He's not really
looking at the kid. The kids are lots more of
than and he's a huge tennis fan. He's very excited.

Speaker 9 (01:09:00):
That's why. Okay, that's why I say, have a look
at the direction in which he handed the young boy
the hat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I've looked at it, and I don't. I don't
see it the way you do. But I think the
reason why he he the reason why this that the
Polish CEO has said he gave it back is because
even though he didn't see that the kid wanted it,
he felt bad because the kid was hurt and the
kid was upset. So that was his reasoning for giving
the hat to the kid.

Speaker 9 (01:09:23):
You know, does it make it doesn't make it better?
Does it make that? Does it make the situation better? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I think I think it does. I think if anything,
if you take into account his history and his apology,
and I think you can have you can err on
the side of just believing him and having an open
heart to what he says.

Speaker 18 (01:09:43):
You know, Okay, so I'll just end this and say this, Yep,
if he is who he says he is now, he
could have easily have settled everything and just paid for
a headache.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, well, good on your day, he did. He did
give him. He did give him. I mean, paying for
the hats one thing, but he wanted the hat that
was specially from the player. You know how we get
about that. But good on your Dougie for having having
that opinion, a strong opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
But then it comes back to, even if Dougie said
he was snatching the hat, and that's what Dougie believed,
does it really deserve to have your life pulled apart
by the internet over that transgression, Because that is what's
happening right now. They are digging into every part of
this gentleman's life. They are bombing his business with negative reviews.
I mean that seems like quite a punishment. Even if

(01:10:30):
Dougie's right that he did snatch the hat bit, I
know you believe he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah, I just don't like what's more believable, right, what's
more believable is this guy who's done all these nice
things in his life, he's there with his wife and kids,
just decided to rip a hat off a small child
before the true child get it, or that the footage
just makes them look bad and there's more to it
in the background, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Just what's more believable, alkins raiser.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I mean so some people see that and it changes
their perspectionion because they just believe that he's a piece
of crap. They see this rich guy and they think
he's just more likely do it. It just doesn't seem
just can't believe that that is the the most logical
assumption to make from the footage unless you've got some

(01:11:18):
preconceived perception and some anger you want to get out
of your system.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
And clearly there's a lot of that. The text of
are smoking at the moment. But oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call back very shortly.
It is eleven to three the issues that affect.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Text between surely changed. Now now I'd say we're probably
sixty five percent pro the Polish CEO. You've turned and
people and it's really dropped off the people. As people
watch the video again, I say he needs to be
tied to a gun carriage, then taken to the center
of town and we all start stand around yelling shame, shame, shame.
Like Game of Thrones, we would all feel better afterwards. Yeah,

(01:12:04):
it looks march them through King's Landing and the nude
Tony welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (01:12:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:12:11):
If you watch that video with no understanding of anything,
straight away, player takes the cap off and puts it
in front of the kids. The said doesn't see it
until after the guy has grabbed it. But if you
think about the fact that the player's Polist, and so
is the CEO, so all the seas and Polish is
I'll grab that cap now and all thinking that the

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player doesn't even look. He just takes his cap off
because they don't think it get caps away ahead of it.
I've seen the serial way that the people react when
player it's finisher match. They throw risks and how and
and and it's in the crowd, actually are They'll tell them,
give me a spirit, give me a pale, give me

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your hand ban, give me a hat. And it's not
about the player. It's not the player that then it's
these They just go feral over one thing, free skips
from the players, And I feel well, yeah, because well,
how can I appease my fans when I've got to
give all the stuff away and then when you give
it to one and not another, I'll put them, or

(01:13:13):
they'll abuse them, or they'll come back of them. And
it is just that kids who went off on a
candor if I was his parent, and if you want
it to be, you'll smack around the head on when
he got out, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
If you called Tony. I've seen Adam Zamper, the Australian cricketer,
handing stuff out over to fans and he ended up
just in his undies. He handed absolutely everything his shirt
right down to his undies, his his cricket shoes, his socks,
his wristband, his pants and his pads, the whole thing
in his box.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
That is commitment.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
And he walked off in his undies.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
What a good man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Dean. You're on the other side of this. You think
the hat grabber deserves to be burned at the stake?
Is that corrector?

Speaker 11 (01:14:00):
I cannot believe that you guys are making excuses me
for a bully and a thief.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Who's the which one of the or the the the CEO?

Speaker 11 (01:14:11):
Come on, Come on, a CEO, a bully and the thief.
And if it was all legit, why did he quickly
hide it away passages.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Because that was for his kids that were there, So
he put it in the bag and for his kids.

Speaker 11 (01:14:25):
To him, he knew what he was doing. And you're
making excuses for him because he's rich, he's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
You seem to think no, no, no, Dean. I don't
think it's which he's okay. I just don't think he
should be condemned primarily because he's rich, because the fact
that he's a wealthy CEO seems to be at the
top of every comment before they go down to the snatching.
So I'm just saying, yeah, do you know do you
know why?

Speaker 11 (01:14:51):
Because he didn't need that, He's got plenty, and he
takes it off some point.

Speaker 9 (01:14:55):
Kid.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Do you think that that kid at the front of
the US Open as a privileged child that desperately needs
a hat, or do you think that maybe that kid
is from a reasonably wealthy family himself and he's got
the bets available.

Speaker 11 (01:15:06):
That goes, That goes pretty well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
But I saw what I saw.

Speaker 11 (01:15:11):
He took it off the kid, he hid it away,
passed it to his wife, and stashed it in the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
There you go, Maybe you saw what you wanted to
see and maybe that's it, and maybe I saw what
I wanted to see. I mean, initially, when I first
saw it, I got angry like Dean was, and I
wanted to get a pitchfork and go over there and
get revenge on the guy. Then I wanted a few
more times with an open heart, yes, And then I thought, look,
there's a lot of mitigating circumstances. And then I found
out that he did a lot of charity work back

(01:15:36):
in Poland, and I found out what a big tennis
fan he was, and I found out that the player
had said that he was going to give him a
hat in Polish.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Well, it was a great discussion. It started off with
the pitchforks and the torches, and I think you've turned
a few people, Matt. They started to come through now
and say, give the guy a break. He didn't do
anything wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Well, I just think we should be careful when we
judge so so harshly we get the pitchfork out so quickly.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Love a great discussion. Thank you to everybody who called
and text on that one. Coming up after, Oh, Heather's outside,
she wants to say somebody to you, Mat, you're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I think Hellen doesn't agree with me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yeah, she's pointing right here, mate, this is going to
be good. Bring it on right. We'll keep you updated
with that. But coming up after three o'clock, we want
to talk about Father's Day. What is the perfect gift
for Father's Day? If you're a dare it is three
minutes two three, Do you have a hat off a kit?

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
It'd be good day to you. Welcome back into the show.
Just before we get into the next topic, hither do police?
Allen the drive host on News Talks. Thereb just came
storming in here during the news break.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
The poor Homes broadcaster of the year here incredibly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Good broadcast, Great New Zealander and had a very heated
discussion with you, Matt Heath, over the old alleged hat
snatcher and whether the video did show that there was
some hat snatching going on or whether lest it was
hard dune.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Let's say, let's just say we share a lot of
common ground on something issues, but this isn't one of
the Yeah, this is we couldn't be more polar opposite
in that view of that it was heated.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I had to get out of here pretty quick and
leave those two to it. But God, we love a
bit of passion, right, this is going to be great chat.
So Father's Day, as we know, is coming up on Sunday,
and traditionally Dad's can be hard to buy for when
it comes to Dad's Day in terms of a gift.
But there was an article that was posted on the
Herald about ideas gift ideas for Father's Day for under

(01:17:34):
fifty bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Yeah, and look, we're doing this today. We're getting to
do it yesterday, but we got too many calls and
text to get to the topic. But I think it's
important to do this in advance of Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
So you've got time to get your father the present
that that that you think he'll like, you know, rather
than worrying about it all week. Right, Yes, last minute
type situation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Get in early.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
But I'm looking through this list of twenty five gifts
and I'm a father and I wouldn't want any of them,
and I think I think this is a you know,
I'd love to hear from you. On eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty as a father, what you want as
a gift, any great presence you've got on Father's Day.
But I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding on what fathers want.
And from my perspective and every father I know, we

(01:18:20):
don't want presents from anyone. That's not what we want. Yeah,
you know, we're happy we can buy ourselves stuff. You know,
we don't want presents for Father's Day. That's not what
it's about. We just want maybe a little thank you
for all you do, maybe a cuddle in the morning,
maybe some breakfast from someone, and then you do what
you want to do for the rest of the day.

(01:18:41):
A whole pass for the rest of the day. You
just go be you for the rest of the day,
go and play golf with your buddies all day, go
out to the pub and hang out. We just want
to day potentially, and this might be controversial for Father's Day.
We don't want anything but to maybe spend a day
not being a father.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
It's just pure you time, leave dad alone and let
me do what I want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Yeah, I mean this suggestion here a kinto at qua
culture vase.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
I don't even know what that is, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
A gentleman's hardware, stainless steel, have flask. No Lego Speed
Champions Ferrari. No, you're not going to buy that one,
the forty four to ninety nine one. If you're going
to buy Lego if one, you're gonna have to just
spend four hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Yea, I'm afraid a jar of fats, some beef Tello.
They've suggested you want some beef tellow for Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Actually, I don't know a bit of beef Tello. I
run out on my face, you know, rub a lot
of beef dellow on my face. Best dad ever trophy Snow. No,
I don't want that, absolutely, I do not want that.
Novelty socks, No, thank you. I just want to be
myself for a day.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Yeah, oh, you're like this one, the sixteen dollar Frank
Green designed Pip Poo bag holder. You wouldn't say no
to that, would you?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I would.

Speaker 12 (01:19:53):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Actually, now look, look, I wouldn't say no to anything
any present. I'd appreciate it, and that thought's amazing. But
I just think it's a fund of mental misunderstanding of
from a father's perspective, And I'd like to hear where
the people agree with me this on our eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, But we don't want anything. Maybe
some breakfast and then and then just maybe I love you, Dad,

(01:20:16):
You're great dad, And then you go for you for
the day.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Sounds good, sounds peaceful. You do you Dad's Oh eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is that exactly what
you want on Dad's Day? Just a bit of me time,
really keen to hear from you. And also, what was
the best Father's Day gift you ever got? It might
be that I'm not reading that text out that would
be a good day though there's some truth in it. Yeah,
And that would be a really good Dad's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
And when I've been that text, I mean those two
hundred text on that subject, eleven past three, there is
some truth to it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Us talk sa'd be thirteen past three. Father's Day is Sunday,
So we get in a little bit ahead of the
curve to put it out to you. What does the
perfect Father's Day look like for you if you're a
dad and for your family as well, for the mom's
out there, what do you think is the perfect day
for the dad in your life?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Yeah, because I've just read a list of twenty five
things that I definitely don't want Father's Day. So that's
in the Herald if you want to look at it up.
I mean, you know, good on you who wrote the
article making a good e fit in there. But just
for me personally that I just want to be me
for the day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
There was some woofers in there. Absolutely I agree with Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
We just want something simple like being allowed to play
golf with our mates without feeling guilty for the day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Yeah, it's a good day.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Breakfast is a text, maybe a hug. Then just let
me watch sport all day. I want to have first
DIBs on the bathroom and be allowed to sit in
there as long as I like Jackpot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Now you're talking. Now you're talking simple people.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Dad's whole day in the bathroom. Paul, welcome with the show.

Speaker 9 (01:21:46):
Good eight, good a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (01:21:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Good, not bad at all. What's your dream Father's Day?

Speaker 12 (01:21:52):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
Just hanging out with the kids.

Speaker 19 (01:21:54):
Actually, particularly you know nowadays lots of families have got
parents that are apart, So I think that's the best
thing for me, is just a time with I've only
got one son, but with my son and he's twenty now,
so I still get lots of time with them, and
you know, we get to play golf for you know,
go and have a drink or a meal, and I reckon,
it's just the best thing ever.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
So you basically you don't need your son to buy
you a present or anything. You just need to him
to be hey, dad, John to hang out for the day.

Speaker 14 (01:22:23):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 9 (01:22:23):
That's arg's beautiful bit of money.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because a little trinket doesn't really mean
much or a little or someone spending their time deciding
what you might perusing some shelves or something, chances of
getting it right and minimal. But yeah, you just want
to I mean, that's that's you know, that actually makes
me feel quite emotional.

Speaker 6 (01:22:42):
Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
It's such a that's such a beautiful concept.

Speaker 9 (01:22:45):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
And what what do you reckon you'll be doing with
your boy on Sunday? Paul, Well, I'm.

Speaker 19 (01:22:50):
Hoping you'll want to play golf because you'll thrash me.
And you know then I'm proud of I'm a terrible golfer,
but I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Yeah, And that's one of the great things about being
a dad is you slowly watch your kids, your son's
you know, your kids surpass you and and you don't
have to feel shame or you feel is pride.

Speaker 12 (01:23:08):
You're like that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
I mean every time my eldest son smashes me at
any kind of sporting event, I just go at least
I produce this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
You know, that's a good drive son. We'll proud of that.

Speaker 9 (01:23:18):
Yeah, some of my DNA's in there right, it's really
good news.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Love it, Paul, Thank you very much for giving us
a buzz oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty For
the dad's out there. What does the perfect Father's Day
look like for you? And what is the best gift
that you've ever had in the years? Really can to
ever chat with you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Far too much advertising inphasis on Father's Day. Can only
be celebrated if you give dad a gift, if you're
if they're younger children not earning, you know that mums
pay for anyway. The fathers I remember best were the
whole day with the kids, had organized things, games, walk,
maybe just having a coffee somewhere. The important word is
having together the time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
That is beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:23:52):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
There you go, keep those teachs coming through. On nine
two nine two, Chris, how are you get it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
And Father's Day for you, what what are you hoping
for or what do you reckon? It's going to look
like it's.

Speaker 16 (01:24:05):
Going to be my first Father's Day on Sunday, Oh
we call boys.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Well you won't be expecting a present from him, no,
But I.

Speaker 16 (01:24:14):
Sort of just treat it the way I drink my birthday.
I don't really like anything extravagant for my birthday, just
something simple, like maybe even just the game you can
play online with the boys, and even better the free
time to actually play it without being bothered. But I
didn't love what the previous call has said as well,
like spending time with with my son. It's going to
be something I'm definitely keen.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
To do as he is go by.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Yeah, absolutely so. It's yeah, I mean this is going
to be very a very new experience for you on
Father's Day. Father's Day as a father.

Speaker 11 (01:24:45):
It is.

Speaker 16 (01:24:46):
I almost forgot about it.

Speaker 12 (01:24:47):
I want reminded me, and I was like, what do
you want to do.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
For Father's Day. It's like, oh my goodness, I have
no ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Yeah, make a list if it's anything like Mother's Day
for the longest time that what the kids give has
been orchestrated heavily in the background from from the other parent.
So the first one when that's meaningful is when when
they're old enough to make an effort on their own.

(01:25:13):
And you know that by the rubbishness of the present
that it's that's come from the end.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Yeah, Mom didn't have anything to do with this one. Yeah,
chrit of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Chris that well, the congratulations on being a father, and
I hope you have a fantastic first Father's Day. Sound like,
are you're going to be a fantastic dad going forward?

Speaker 16 (01:25:31):
Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Yeah, enjoy that gaming mate. What game are you playing?

Speaker 6 (01:25:34):
By the way, Oh, there's a new one, Dying Light
the Beast coming out soon, Dying Light the Beast.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Yeah, you need a good, solid six hour run for
a new game, don't you at least sometimes?

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Okay, Well, if you're christ is eight month old son,
then that's what you need to get him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Yeah, noted, Chris, Thank you very much. O. One hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call Father's
Day on Sunday for the dad's out there. What does
the perfect day look like for you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Long single? It's to tuck into my undies to keep
my kidneys warm. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
It's a great gift. Yeah, I don't know what that is,
but it's sound very cozy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I've publicly ouded my father for a tugging his matching
jockey singlet into his jockey undie's on a number of occasions.
It's a good luck and he doesn't like when.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
No, he doesn't like what I say that he does
that you had to keep it going though. It's nineteen
past three.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call eight on Youth
Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Twenty two past three. Father's Day on Sunday. So for
the dad's listening out there and for the mums as well,
what does the perfect Father's Day look like?

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
I've said that I don't want any presents. There's this
article here. I don't want presents. I don't think my
dads want presents. I don't think that we want. We're
just a bit of appreciation. Certainly, make me something to
eat and you know, a time for yourself. But if
my kids did get me the eddiedak Aston var Villa
complete track pant tracksuit set that I saw at Rebel

(01:27:00):
Sport the other day, beautiful maroon Eddie dash. It's good
luck mate, all over tracksuit. Yeah, then I wouldn't throw
that in the rubber you appear into that. It's a
beautiful thing. Yeah, jeez, I'd look good with that walking
my dog Coline for your lovely partner Edie s Eston
Villa Football Club, DNA hoodie and track pants noted.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
We'll just get there to record it. But you don't
need in your life, mate, just.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
A hug, maybe some breakfast and beer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Yeah, and a nice trick suit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Nick. We a perfect Father's Day present for you, Nick.

Speaker 7 (01:27:37):
I'd like that us.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
That would be a good gift. Yeah, signed that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
I wonder. I wonder if that kid, because now the
kids ended up with it after the guy snatched it.
That's going to be worth something, something that's blown up
that big. Yeah, I wonder how much it will be
worth now it might be worth a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
I think kid sells that. Half the world will turn
on that kid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I mean, how much did that banana that was nail
to war go for? That was right up there in
the millions? Sure, Nick, Look, I'll see if I can
organize that for you for Father's Day. I mean, I'll
do my best. All right, sweet, thanks, but if not,
well we'll breakfast and bed in a cuddle.

Speaker 20 (01:28:17):
Do yeah, take to breakfast and probably just a massage
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Yeah, yeah, you can do that. He's pretty good at
the beat mass. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is able to call this some great texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
This text from Elliott makes me emotional. My son lives
overseas and this will be our first Father's Day apart.
I'd give the world just for a hug.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Oh that is Oh, there's that actually right in the fields.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Oh there's some good, good good.

Speaker 7 (01:28:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:28:48):
Some of the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
Myneion emotional stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Best Father's Day present was my firstborn daughter, born on
Father's Day, mate, nineteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
You are going to make me start crying now. This
is a nice one. As a father of two boys,
I'm just happy having them around and feel great when
they say Happy Father's Day. My one son is working
in Sydney and we will FaceTime, and the other son
is currently at university and at home. My birthday. Birthday
is on Saturday, and then Sunday is Father's Day. Yahoo
will be nice to go up for lunch dinner with
my wife and the Boys. Good times from Jeff nice O.

(01:29:20):
We one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
What does the perfect Father's Day look like for you?
There's some interesting texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I've just got to say, yeah, we get, we get,
we get the obvious suggestion there, but what what dad
might want?

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
That goes unset. I think most Father's Day from all
guys like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Foods is this texter blocks of chocolate always appreciated.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Yep, that goes down a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
I mean a lot of guys just saying steak eggs chips.
I mean, what time of day is that? Steak egg chips?

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Yeah, that's a good breaky this one. Best Father's Day
for me was last year I was given a box
with oh baby booties and a scan of my first
grand baby. The card read that I had been promoted
to grandpa. There's from waa oh hey that is nice.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Last year I got eighty dollars worth of different flavored
bill pong. Best Father's Day ever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
That is a good gift. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
I got some billpoon from west Auckland. Where's the place
that it was amazing. I've got to remember what the
place is. I'll find it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
It's good stuff. Yeah, so one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is a number to call. And just looking at
some of these gifts that they've suggested on the Herald,
if you've had a reader that and you've been offered
in those gifts, we'd love to hear from you. Books
get a big, a big showing in this list, though,
And I've got to say that was all my always
my go to with dad once I left home, just
buy him a book. And I always felt like a

(01:30:42):
little bit of shamed. Nothing wrong with books. Books are
a great gift, depending on what book it is. But
I always wondered Dad seemed very toughed at the idea
of having a book, But I always wonder did he
read it? Did he really appreciate that as a Father's
Day gift?

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Or Yeah, I've been giving a lot of books of
Father's Day that I haven't read. That, that's for sure.
And you feel a bit of pressure, Yeah, you know
when someone comes back and that book there has clearly
not been read because it was clearly the wrong book exactly.
I mean, I can recommend a lifeless punishing Thirteen Ways
to Love your life You've Got by Matt Heath. If
you're looking for a.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Book, Yep, you know it's a good option.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
It's a very very good Dad might like that one
on audiobook as well. Greg, I think you're wrong and
you're a up at Matt. I think you comes in
many different forms, and one of those is p R
E S E N T s's give me presents? Okay,
gift glover right there? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. What does the perfect Father's
Day look like for you? And what was the best

(01:31:38):
gift that you ever received from your kids on Dad's Day?
Best Father's Day gift is just for one day. Don't
spend my money from stay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Yeah, good call twenty seven past three.

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Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Thank you very much, Susie. So we are talking about
Father's Day. It's on this coming Sunday. We're getting ahead
of the curve, but love to hear from you. What
does a perfect Father's Day look like for you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
This business is a big box of meat, a case
of booze. That's all I want on Father's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Yeah, some talk, that's a good day.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Vouchers your muppets, cheers Richard.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Nice and easy and you can't go wrong with an
old voucher.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
The way fathers act in this country, they do not
deserve anything. In my opinion, Why do we celebrate fathers?
What about mothers? We do most of the work with
the kids, and we don't leave the mothers behind. Okay, wow,
but I mean that's some fathers. I mean, I mean
there's millions, I mean, hundreds of thousands of fathers that
are do great stuff in families one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I mean, is there a bit of a feeling that not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
All, not all fathers leave the mothers. Yeah, you go,
Some fathers leave the mothers, and mothers leave the fathers
and they still manage to run different families.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Trigguan. There is a bit of a feeling. You go
all out for Mother's Day, and quite rightly, because moms
are some of the best of us. You do amazing
work out there, so you go all out and you
try and make it the best day possible. When it
comes to Father's Day, there's a bit of effort that's
put in, but overall it's kind of it's not really
at the upper echelons of Mother's Day? Is that the
feeling out there?

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
And you suggest seeing that the repercussions are such on
Mother's Day if it isn't celebrated to a high enough level,
that the repercussions will be such that people put in
more effort than if Father's Day isn't there. This is
what you're suggesting if fathers are less likely to be dramatic.
Is that what you're saying, Kyler?

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, I've felt that before when
I haven't done quite as well on Mother's Day as
I should have done. But is that true in your household?
One hundred and eighty ten eighty Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Is a big bag of weed? And leave me alone? Okay, okay,
awesome rib terrible topic, guys, Not everyone has a dad.
Pretty horrible to leave out most of the country and
your chat.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Yeah, okay, Well we were.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Talking about there was judging by the amount of text
and stuff coming through, there are some far out there
and there are a lot of people that love their
fokas exactly like this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
One last year, my three year old gave me a
dried worm. It was kind of sweet. We were recently
talking about bugs and worms and he thought I was
relling into them. Actually kind of loved it. And this
one is right on. Agrees with you, Matt. For me,
just quiet time alone at home. Don't arrange any dinner dates,
no errands, no going out to celebrate. Just leave me

(01:35:33):
alone for twenty four hours while I lay on the
couch to twenty four hours of doing absolutely nothing. Bliss.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
All I want, says this text for Father's Day is
a drama free day. Just one day without drama. That's
all I ask for. I know I won't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah, well, I mean that's harsh. Yeah, sorry about that, mate,
Hopefully you get it this year.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
What kind of drama is talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
That sounds like a tough life in your household, guys.
I have three kids in their teens. Not to play favorites,
but two of them always go with the generic cards
and help out with breakfast. My elder she goes out
of her way to find stuff I really like. I'm
a geek, but I try not to go overboard with it.
She noticed I was watching a lot of Dragon ball
Z and One punch Man and got me figures of

(01:36:22):
go To and said, Tama, I knew she liked the Mandalorian,
and she got me Grogus. Every year I look forward
to what she gets and kind of wish the others
would get the hint love those generic cards though, but yeah,
she gets me Grogu.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Sorry, baby Yoda, Yeah yeah, people still in the Baby Yoda.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Well, where was the last season out? That was a
great season, by the way, the old Mandalorian.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
The first season was. Yeah, the first two seasons were fine.
It was fell off the cliff after that. For this
person complaining about there being a Father's Day, Mother's Day
is nine months after Father's Day. Oh interesting, interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Okay, I see where you're going with that. I see
you come with that, is it?

Speaker 12 (01:37:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
How when his mother's that trying and do some reverse
So May is it first Sunday of May? So it'd
be about righty?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
So May this year it's Sunday, May the tenth. Next year, sorry,
Mother's Day's Sunday May the tenth, and Father's Day is
this is Sunday the seventh of September.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Yeah, okay, good maths this one, guys, Just time with
your kid. Two years ago, my daughter picked me up
and we spent an early afternoon walking along the rub
A River, feeding the darks, taking some photos. This year
she brought tickets for a band she thinks alike and
is taking me to a concert. I don't really need things,
but I cherish time and experiences with her. That's Father's

(01:37:45):
Day for me, Glensys.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I buy a present with my money, I put it
in a bag, give it to the kids, they sign
it and they give it back to me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Oh how nice our touching. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call? What are you expecting
for Father's Day? And have you got a Father's Day
tradition that you tend to do on that day or.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Any father wants? And other day is a sleeping a
couple of coffees, watch some for lawn's done by someone else,
a roast, then a good hard cut all once the
kids are asleep.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Bless you got on your warsl it is twenty four
to four Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. What's your best gift you've ever got
on Dad's Day? And any traditions you do love to
hear from you?

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
A lot of lude content coming through.

Speaker 11 (01:38:27):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons
call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Said, be afternoon to your Father's Day on Sunday. So
what would the perfect Father's Day look like for you?
And what's been the best gifts that you've ever had?
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is number.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
To call Graham your favorite Father's Day? What do you want?

Speaker 20 (01:38:50):
I have this thing when I have a birthday, it's
called birthday months. So I figured it should be Father's
weekend and I reckon well making the top four Friday night.
AB's beating the box at edon Park, Liam Podium at
Monza and was beating the Browns opening weekend of the

(01:39:12):
NFL season on Monday, and I wouldn't care if the
kids burnt the bacon and.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
I'll be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
There's a lot of moving parts in your your gifts.
So basically you need the Wires to beat Manly and
the Storm to beat the Broncos, and the Bulldogs to
beat the Sharks for for the to come through.

Speaker 21 (01:39:31):
That's a bit yep, Yeah, yeah, was it the choice halfback?
They have a sorry yeah, on Saturday night, whoever that
is is going to be.

Speaker 20 (01:39:45):
Maybe if Carlos says t bones both McLaren's off the
starting line, Liam might make it onto the podium. And yeah,
Browns to lose to the Bengals and the opening NFL game.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
I've lost. I've lost so much respects for Carlos Steigns
after his reaction to and his bitching and it is
having a go and Liam and there it's like you
pressy drama bastard. Yeah, it was Lamb's corner mate, just
because you're having a crap season, you know, and to
talk to and you know, to talk to it to
a young guy on the on the on the field
like that, what he was on the radius? It's always

(01:40:20):
this guy? What do you mean? It's always this guy?
What a lot of rubbish? Carlos signed little Thunderbird looking on,
don't get me started.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
You've got him started now, Graham. But that is a
great one. I would also say, mate, if you get
that multi as well, not only will you have a
fantastic weekend, you'll be quite rich. What's it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
That's paying at least?

Speaker 9 (01:40:44):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
I hope all your dreams come true because we share
a lot of similar dreams that would make that would
make a lot of father's days. Think of you A
call Graham.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Love it, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
I agree with the previous text. So with all the
damaged fathers do, why would you want to celebrate them? O?

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
Whoa whoa.

Speaker 11 (01:41:03):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Well, you know what some people do, But the vast majority,
the vast vast majority of fathers that work hard and
do a lot for their families, and they're worth celebrating.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
We need dad.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
You just can't list. There's some bad people in this world. Absolutely,
But would you celebrate no one for anything because there
are some bad people in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
Come on, a bit of dad love out there? Come on,
come on, This one says, get a guys, If my
kids buy me a tie, I will be very sad.
But honestly, you can't beat the classics. Get me some
sort of powered tool, so long as I don't already
have one, and I'll be chuffed. Treat me to a
steak dinner, a fine bottle of whiskey Irish as my preferred,
or some sort of barbecue equipment. The best gifts I've
ever received have been a woodworking lathe, a Tomahawk's steak

(01:41:46):
with peppercorn sauce and a mini smoker. Good times. That
is out of a lift.

Speaker 9 (01:41:53):
Get a.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Oh this is a this is a quite an intense one.
But I'm going to read this out. Get My daughter
and her husband, Jacob are at Starship Hospital at the
moment with our grandson awaiting a liver transplant. The little
guy is five months old, my son in law's first
Father's Day.

Speaker 12 (01:42:09):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
The biggest gift for Father's Day would be for the
transplant to go well and our daughter and son in
law still to get to have a child to hold
and grow up with. Pete well Man, lots of love
to you and your family.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
That is that is intense, all the very best, Pete
and you. Hopefully that goes well. Oh eight hundred God
stuff from perspective, certainly does. That would be an amazing
Father's Day for that family. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Afternoon, guys, my son is listening. Cole, give me a
cask on my bedside table, some valium and I'll let
you have your first joint. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
It's a good dad right there, I think, all right,
good time.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Oh eight hundreds, unpack that one of this very disparate
text there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call get a John?

Speaker 11 (01:42:54):
Hey mayhow thanks good?

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
And what does Father's Day look like for you? What
are you hoping for?

Speaker 22 (01:42:59):
Oh mate? To be honest, just waking up to my
kids is more than enough. Well for me, I enjoy
every day waking up to both of my kids. So
that's Father's Day for me. You know that breakfast usually breakfast,
we have breakfast altogether. But you know, me and my wife,
we put money to our kids every year and they
they buy what they want to buy ours for mothers

(01:43:21):
and Father's Day?

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Do they get it right?

Speaker 12 (01:43:25):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:43:25):
Sometimes? Other times it's like, yeah, I think it might
have been wrong. But yeah, I mean, you know, whatever
they feel and how they feel what matters. It's not
what I You know, I'm not there to celebrate my
spouse it like I do on her days. But it's
you know, I'll call my mum and shut you know
whatever to my mom like she would with him or

(01:43:48):
her dad.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
John, how old are your kids? If you don't mind
me asking, My.

Speaker 22 (01:43:53):
Oldest son is fourteen and my daughter is just turned.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
To oh nice, and what did they go for last
last year, John, can.

Speaker 22 (01:44:03):
You say son got socks and hues because he seems
not my auntie?

Speaker 9 (01:44:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:44:10):
Good basic, Yeah yeah, you can always use those.

Speaker 5 (01:44:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:44:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:44:14):
Breakfast we always do a cook breakfast for mothers and
Father's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Yeah, love it. John, you're a good man. You're a
lucky man. Oh eight hundred eighty, ten eighty is the
number to call if you want to send a texture
more than welcome. Nine to ninety two. Plenty coming through,
So we'll get to a few more of those very shortly.
It is a quarter to four. You're listening to Matt
and Tyler good Afternoons.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
You the big stories, the big issues, the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
News Talks ed BE. It is twelve to four and
we're talking about Father's Day on Sunday. What does the
perfect Father's Day look like for you? Oh, eight hundred
and eighty, ten eighty is the number to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Call, Pete, Welcome to the show. What's Father's Day look
like for you?

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Good lads?

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
How are we? Very good? Mate? Very good?

Speaker 9 (01:45:01):
Father Father's Day for me?

Speaker 23 (01:45:02):
Like I'm nearly fifty and when I was the kids,
Father's Day was a lot different when I was a
kid to what it is now.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
And I've got two kids.

Speaker 23 (01:45:13):
One's twelve and one's twenty four, and fathers stay for
them are very different in how they want to celebrate
it with me. My son who's twelve, he wants to
celebrate my Father's Day by eating the food he likes,
which is bacon and fish fingers and eggs taste, and

(01:45:35):
spending time with me, either gaming or watching a movie.
Where's my daughter who's twenty four, She just wants to
spend time with me, either out doing something or I
don't put a lot of credence on material stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:45:52):
That's not what it's about for me.

Speaker 23 (01:45:53):
It's just about spending time with my kids and then
wanting to spend time with me and enjoying each other's company.
And that's what it is for me as a dad,
is giving back to them and letting them know I'm
there for them and that no matter what happens, that's
what a dad does, he through thickenson, through everything else

(01:46:15):
that happens in life. Your dad should be there for
you one hundred percent as much as your mum.

Speaker 9 (01:46:20):
And if you've got a combined family group. Parents.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Whether you're together or not.

Speaker 23 (01:46:29):
That's all that matters, is that your kids see you
as the person they can go through and the person
they can count on. Whether it's eating food with you,
whether it's going out and enjoying a meal, having a drink,
or just sitting at home and watching a movie and
playing a game. None of that, None of that matters.
That's peripheral stuff. The thing is spending time with your kids.

(01:46:52):
And that's the thing I want from my kids is
that they want to spend time with me, and then
I know it's succeeded.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
That's buddy, beautiful Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
You're a good dad right there, far out there and
making me get a bit sweaty around the ice. Plenty
of teas coming from nine to.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
My name's Aaron. On Father's Day, I can't wait for
home drawings on coloring inns, crowns, and homemade cards from
my four and five year old.

Speaker 9 (01:47:17):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
That is beautiful. See this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
People don't want to hear this, do they? They want,
you know, the whole Father's Day thing. The last thing
people want to hear out there running businesses is that
fathers just want some crayon drawings, and then you know,
maybe some breakfast and then let the watch sport all day.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Go out there. It's been some muddy kids. The economy
needs it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Every day is Mother's Day except for half of Father's Day,
says Richard Well.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
That leads into this text says get our guys. My
wife and I have this running deal that when Mother's
Day comes, she gets a whole weekend off to do
whatever she wants, go out of town, have a sparred day,
and I'll have her favorite meal cooked when she gets back.
When Father's Day comes around, I get a key chain
from the servo with my name spelt wrong on it.
That's a rough.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Best president my brother ever gave my mother was an ashtray.
She didn't smoke. I bought my kids up on my
own as a solo d I did without so much
just to make life easier with them. I don't regret
any of it and would do it again. I am
best of mates with all three boys. They are in
their late twenties and thirties now, and I'm always the
first person I talk to if anything that goes roight.
I'm always the first person they talk to if anything

(01:48:23):
goes wrong. They are all around the world now leading
their own lives, and all I want is a phone
call on Father's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Oh god, gym, that is poutiful. And this one, guys,
when my son was in preschool, he gave me a
picture frame that he painted with a picture of himself
in it. I still have it on my nightstand and
look at it every day. He's in college now, But
that was the best Father's Day gift I ever got.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
See these texts that are saying that fathers don't deserve
to be celebrated on Father's Day, I mean, horrible, horrible
attitude to have. But this doesn't play out with what
most fathers are.

Speaker 15 (01:48:57):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
My fathers just absolutely love their kids and would do
anything for them and maybe just want to, you know,
spend some time with them exactly. That's all A lot
of spend some time with the TV watching sport either
all yeah, either all Gary?

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
How are your mate? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
Good mate? Good?

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
So what does the perfect father's they look like for you?

Speaker 24 (01:49:17):
A sleeping burn, burnt breakfast in my bed, selection of
craft bears. And then well we're a few, a few
of me and my mates are going out for a
game of golf.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Right, and did you bot that or did you did
your significant other by?

Speaker 7 (01:49:35):
I don't want to know.

Speaker 24 (01:49:36):
I don't want annoy the kids on Sunday, right, smart, Yeah,
I mean I got to say every all of all
of our mates said yes, apart from Brendan, my mate, Brendan,
his wife said he has to spend the day with
the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
So from Brendan's presenters, he's not allowed to go and
play golf with his mates.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
Yeah, exactly, come on, let Brendan out.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Golfers, I mean golfers. Most of they what what time?
What's tea time?

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
What? What?

Speaker 7 (01:50:02):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
What time's te off?

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
I live him thirty. I've got to allowed to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
And yeah, so sleep and this is a couple of
hours with the kids and then you'll be back, potentially
a little bit sloshed later on the evening. Don't give
you a number, give it off here and then then
I'll give them. I'll give them, I'll give them a ring.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Yeah, we'll see what we can make up and we'll
see if we can get Brigs out for a day
on the links.

Speaker 9 (01:50:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
Gary, you're a good man. Thank you very much for
giving us a buzz a whole bunch of ticks have
come through on nine two nine two, but oh, e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty in is number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
This will be my first Father's Day without my dad,
because he passed away in July. I will just be
remembering the lovely Father's Days of the past. That's from Caroline.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Oh, that's nice, and this one. Anything homemade from my
kids is always great. My wife got me a yitty
cup and my favorite color that I love as well.
I mean the old homemade guests, particularly when they're young.
There is something beautiful about that, isn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
I have a two year old girl and another one
due any day now. I could be possibly getting another
daughter for Father's Day. Couldn't be more blessed, lucky, lucky
man ah And well this one flowers. I read somewhere
most men receive flowers for the first time at their funeral.
I just love some roses for Father's Day.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Really, yeah, good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
There's always a Brandon and Everyone's Friends circle. Life's cruel brandan.
If you're listening, mate, you heaping Father's Day. This is
a hurtful text. My kids said they would get me.
Matt Heath's book for Father's Day. I said, Nah, rather socks.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Oh that's crawling on double accounts.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
I mean, socks are pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
They're pretty handy. But it's a great read their book.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
Hey, look look I just want on Father's gay. As
I said before, it's a little cuddle, maybe a thank you.
Then just go on and and with a nice stress
feed day. Maybe not watching maybe watching some sport, either
that or the aston the ediotas Eston Villa Football Club
DNA hoodie set from Rebel Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Just a suggestion both yeah, both, Yeah, fantastic, Right, what
a good discussion. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
Yeah, thanks so much for listening. For the show. Everyone
to the show. It was very fun. The for Matt
and Tyler afternoon's podcast will be out in about an
hour if you missed anything. They had a great interview
with Peter Griffin and all the details around the Amazon
Data Center. The powerful Heather Duplicy Ellen is up next.
But Tyler, why would I be playing this song from
Jane's Addiction?

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Is this called being Caught Stealing?

Speaker 11 (01:52:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Oh, great tune. And I'm surprised you picked this one
actually because the allegations were this gentleman was stealing that
cap but you look into the evidence.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Was he really snatching it? Yeah, I don't think he was,
so I'm playing this ironically.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
It's great show.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
I think he's been incorrectly shamed on the internet. That
Polish ceo accused of stealing ahead of a kid. Son
was in his eyes, he was looking the other way.
It was for his context was important and judge not this,
you be judge yourself all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Poor bugger.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Anyway, have a great Receivia afternoon until tomorrow. Give him
taste a kiwi from us.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
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Speaker 15 (01:53:18):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:53:24):
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