Full Show Podcast: 03 October 2025

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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Talk said me, very good afternoon to you. Welcome into
Friday show, into the week for many of us. Hope
you're having a good day and a feeling good yiddo Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Again a Tyler get a great New Zealander review listening.
Tell you what I'm very excited about this weekend. I'm
pumped up and some of my two teenage sons we
go along to the hot World's monster trucks.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Are you lucky, lucky man.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Bring air protection. It's going to be loud, it says
on the ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh mate, I'm just watching a video now because I
knew it was happening, but I hadn't seen what is
what it is going to potentially be like? It looks amazing,
looks incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, So what do you describe what you're looking at
there with the monster trucks.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So these beautiful hot wheel style monster trucks and the
full size obviously monster trucks that are dazzled out with
lights and neon, and there's obviously places for the kids
to play around with actual hot wheels. There's fire, the
fire works. It just looks like he of a show.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. So you've got you've got like big versions of
the cool hot wheels, you know, dinkies that you would
have had when you were a kid, like the big Foot,
the bone Shaker, you got the Tiger Shark, you got
the race ace, you got the big fire engine. It's
pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, jumping over cars is motorbikes. Man, you're going to
have a hell of the time.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, I bet, I bet well, if there are stal
tickets left, I believe what I believe.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's sold out on Saturday, but I think the I
think there's stool tickets for Sunday ye at Eden Park. Yeah,
so it's gonna be it's gonna be a it's gonna
be a good time. You lucky lucky And it's been
in Wellington already, I believe.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So if you've if you win long nine two nine two,
I'd love to hear what you thought of it.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, right on to today's show after three o'clock. You
would have seen the story a little bit earlier. This week.
Auckland's Upper Harbor Motorway ground to a halt after a
digger fell off a truck and it blocked the lane.
So a lot of disruption that particular morning. But we
want to take a little bit wider than there and
talk about things that have flown off your own trailers

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as you've been moving around, or what have you seen
that someone's attempted and whether they had success or not.
We're just keen to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I mean New Zealanders. We love to move things
around on our trailers and on the roofs of our cars, yep.
And sometimes we get it right, and sometimes we get
it wrong, and things go flying off and you arrive
at destination with less than what was on your trailer
on your roof when you left.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Looking forward to those stories. After three o'clock. After two
o'clock on Monday afternoon, a child was pulled unconscious from
Bay Waves wave pool in Mount long and Nui. This
is New Zealand's largest wave pool, so thankfully lifeguards and
nearby paul goers swiftly administered CPR, reviving the child before
emergency service has transported them to toto A hospital. Remarkably,

(03:59):
the child has since recovered and has returned home. But
it raises a big question about do you know what
to do if you're faced with that sort of scenario.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, when I read this story, I thought, no, I
don't know what to do. And if I was there
and there wasn't a lifeguard to save the kid, as
these parents delive the kid to the lifeguard, then that
would have been a terrible situation. So we just want
to talk about what you need to know and how
much effort you should be put into being capable of
saving lives should you need to as a good New

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Zealand citizen.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
That's going to be good after two o'clock. But right now,
let's have a chat about emails and Wayne Brown. So
he's made headlines after responding to with a blunt, if
off email to supporters of the Auckland Ratepayers Alliance group.
So the group had sent over one thy five hundred
emails urging the mayor. It's a lot of emails urging
him to sign their ratepayer protection pledge that's aimed at

(04:50):
keeping Auckland rates from skyrocketing. The mayor's office dismiss the
campaign as a PR stunt, saying the pledge is unrealistic
and meaningless, but clearly the mayor had had enough after
being bombarded with fifteen hundred emails.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Are they fifteen hundred bespoke emails or are they just
the same email fifteen hundred times?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
It must be copy and paste. Must be they've just
sent it out to all their members and said here's
the template.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Because comb because if they're fifteen hundred different emails, then
there is a there's a mental health issue involved there,
I would say, But does this make you think less
or more of the mayor? Does someone who sent fifteen
hundred emails on the same topic, do anyone deserve any
f off? That's an interesting question. But you know, how

(05:34):
would you describe it? The robes, the chains of the
mayoral office.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
It's got some manna behind it.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Wayne Brown represents the citizens of Auckland City and the
rate payers. Is that the way he should be behaving?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Is that behaving in a way that that honors the
city and honors the position that he's in fitting of
his position? Is the right, honorable mayor? What do you
call it? The the what's the how do you refer
to a mire against your worship? Your worship?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah? Would you worship of a title? Your worship.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Was he wearing the robe in the chain when he
sent it? I understand it was at eight forty five
in the morning, yes on his iPhone yep? Or you
don't care? Or conversely, there's a lot of people are
texting through saying it makes them think more of them.
Here we go, Wayne Brown rocks. I love him even more.
That's from Sally the Boomer. Okay, Kat says he's got
my vote. But this textas says frankly, Wayne Brown should

(06:31):
f off as he's a prat right.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's great, So I'd love to hear your thoughts on
this one. O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Is it ever acceptable for
an elected official to use profanity like if off in
an email response? Or does it make you respect him more?
That he's a pretty blunt guy and clearly he had
had enough of being spammed by this particular lobby group.
So really keen to get your views on this one.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right right through. It shows that Wayne Brown is
a real person and doesn't take nonsense. That's from Derek.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Get on the phones twelve past one.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
That'd be quarter past one. So Auckland here, Wayne Brown.
He let fire with a pretty blunt email response to
supporters of the Auckland Ratepayers Alliance. They bombarded him with
over fifteen hundred emails urging him to sign their ratepayer
protection pledge. But he sends a pretty simple response that's
been leaked. It just said if off.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
The SEXTA says rates are up over seven percent this
year and will be up over seven percent next year.
That is the problem. The poor ratepayers who have to
pay it are very worried about and all Wayne does
is ignore them. Well, you've got to say, though, Wayne
has kept rates in Auckland down compared to a number
of other councils. Yep, so you know, ideally they don't

(07:54):
go up more than a flashing. But he's Some would
argue that he's done a good job at stemming the
tide of insane increases.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
He's definitely done a lot of cutting.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's sure, it's seven percent, it's not fifteen percent.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, but what do you say, I eight hundred is
that unbefitting or of Amir or do you like his style?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Downtown clown brown, egotistical duckads is Stanley? There you go,
so nice Ryan, Yes for mere more cut to chase
the better.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, there you go. Keep them coming in love freets.
How are you pretty good?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Matte? Hello?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
You very good, Thanks for calling in on this Friday afternoon.
Yours please? Are you there? Yep? There you go, yep.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
I think the boarding percentage is really low, Like, I
think less than fifteen percent of the people return their ballots,
which is really now. And I think the comments like
this from Vain, I think they're a bit good in
terms of kind of more people coming in together and
boarding because I live in talking and like not many
people boarding, and even the neighbors and all, like, no
one knows that the boarding people are just lying on

(08:59):
the freasures or like the tables. Yeah, and I think
we still have two weeks. Let's see what happens. But
I mean comments like these do spice of the contestfully.
In the next two weeks, we may have more party
comments from all the sides of the spectrum. The warding
actually goes up.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's an interesting that's an interesting take on it. I
hadn't thought of that so this has brought attention to
the whole you know, local body elections just a little
bit of spice because people do complain, they say it's
too boring. I can't get interested. But if you've got
the sitting mare firing off swear words at people, at
least it focuses the attention on on the election that's

(09:37):
coming up. Have you are you across the candidates and
planning to vote?

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Oh, I've actually vought it out and I made my
family bought yesterday as well as like many friends and
mates as well. And I mean local government is really important,
like right from the morning when we plush our tourlet,
like the border, you know, like everything just relates to
kind of the local gunment. I think the main attention
of the media is more on the central government and
all the all the news articles and stuff, but I

(10:05):
mean local government has kind of more important, right right
when we step out of our home into the street
and all the little things we.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Do every day.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
So overall, love Prey, Have you got any problem with
him using that sort of language in an email exchange?

Speaker 6 (10:20):
I mean he's Swayne right, He's quite blunt, so I
mean it's not something unexpected.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yes, yeah, that's an interesting point as well. Two very
interesting points they operate. But the for some people if
they pretend to be something and then they suddenly found
out in a private email like this is as much
as a mayor can privately respond to someone emailing him
as a capacity of as mayor. But he's not said
it publicly. But you know, some people, you'd be revealing

(10:49):
something about the candidate that you didn't know, and then
maybe it would be more of a scandal. But how
many people out there are surprised that that Wayne Brown
first thing in the morning has got the fifteen hundredth
email from a certain person who's responded like that.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It's on brand, It's very on brand. It's authentic. You
can't deny that. What do you say though, Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number call?

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Oh hi guys, love your shower as always. But for me,
I'm not surprised he said that. I'd quite like to
say that to him because you've put our rates up
thirteen point eight and walk with us. We don't have
a pool, we don't have rails, and we're on a pension.
I mean, it's not seven point eight, it's a total lie, right,

(11:36):
and that's why I do not and it's absolutely true.
I would not ever vote to him. So I've voted,
but certainly not to him because he's stayed down to
all us people up here.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Can you explain to me, Von why it's it's more
in Rodney than it is in the rest of the
super city.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, well, no, we're called Auckland now right up to Welsford.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
It used to be Rodney, and I don't know what
it is in the sink, but I do know that
my Thumbslan Repach and he's got the same. So my
husband's very good with figures. And yeah, fifteen points of
what ourse has gone up our rights from last year.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It does people, people and people and so do you
you know because you were the Rodney district of course
do you not even call it that? You don't even
call it that anymore. It's not even known as the
Rodney district.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
No, we're known as Land right up to wels.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
But that's too it's too far and it's too different.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
It goes out to helens for Life thinks sure, it's too.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Really, I agree with you, it's too different. It's too
different than urban Auckland. Or Manica or or we're still Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean that's the failing of amalgamation, isn't it. When
the super City was was drafted, I think people could
see the potential pros. But you're speaking to a massive
conn there, vone, and I think that's starting to be
a parent right, yeah, very.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
And unfortunately we're retired, but we have so many people
around us. We're in the same situation. You know that
it works on their own home and that, but thirteen
point eight, No, it is not seven point eight for
us up there. And I could tender a copy of
two Rates Bult and you could see it for yourself. Right,

(13:25):
it is transit really.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
This Texas says. I don't think profanity is any place
for the person who is hoping to return to leading
our city. I won't allow my grandsons to use language
like that, and they are in their twenties. Wow, good one.
Youre jan So why can he not use English to
support his views? That is not unacceptable. That is unacceptable
to me.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, it's a fair point, and a lot of people
will feel that way. But again, going back to to
Wayne Brown, clearly that is the way that he speaks
and a lot of his life. I imagine he's a
pretty pretty blunt guy. So anything else would be seen
as fake or inauthentic. Right, So the very fact that
he sent that out and it got leaked and he
probably didn't want it leaked, or maybe he doesn't care,

(14:10):
I don't know. Maybe we should try and see we
can never checked.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
To Wayne Brown, I'm looking at the text machine here,
and look, this isn't a scientific poll. You know, the
margin vera is probably one hundred percent. But most people
texting through here are good on them?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, good, good on.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Him, not you know, not even caring about the issue,
but good on them.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, yeah. And what do you say, though, oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty, do you think this is
unbefitting of someone in a miural position? Or do you
say good on him? He's got to be truthful.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
This text to John says, my rates increases over the
past five years have been twenty nine percent, twelve percent,
twenty nine percent, fifteen percent, napier rural, Thanks Kirsten Wise,
just to fund your sodding expensive fantasy projects. And I
tell you what, John Siding is a good word.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
That is a great word. Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We wouldn't even talking about this if Wayne Brown had
just said side off.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Keep those texts coming through as well. Nine till it's
twenty three past one.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
The headline and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 9 (15:12):
Let's get some insight into how much of a mess
the Mary Party in it? A flabbel former co leaders
with us Erud karpa key. I don't know him, do you.
He seems like a very affable, likable sort of bloke,
very articulate.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
That's a good summary of them.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
Okay, So is he trouble or is he going the
something fundamentally wrong with the Marory Party.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
In the statement of these natives, politicians need to stop
being activists and activists need to stop being politicians, which
I think is.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
A fair call.

Speaker 9 (15:34):
Is the dictatorship thing. The thing is that your observation
that they got a problem run there.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
I sort of haven't been involved too much with the
party at that level since I left, but on the
face of it, you'd say there's a few things going on.

Speaker 9 (15:46):
Back Monday from six am, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Mayley's real Estate News Talk.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Z B afternoon. It is twenty six past one, so
we're talking about the language Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown used
to respond to a flood of emails from the Auckland
Ratepayers Alliance. It was pretty blunt and pretty short. It
just said f off. After he was bombarded with fifteen
hundred of those emails.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Hey on another issue, and I'll get through this quickly
because we've got full lines and lots of people texting through.
I want to get to the chat. But it's the
way some people advertise to get your vote. It's quite odd.
You've got to say there's one particular person in Auckland
City and maybe there's people like this in your country.
There's obviously spent a whole lot of money on posters,
but it's just his face and a hat and different colors,

(16:28):
with no particular agenda that I can work out, no
particular platform.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
So it's just his name and a hat.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, have you not seen these posters?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Nine two nine two. If you know who the candidate is,
I forget his name. But everywhere I go there's just
hundreds and hundreds of this guy in a hat running
for council. He's running on a Fedora platform.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I could support that. I love a Fedora.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Jason, welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
Yeah, how are you going there?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Very good? Thanks for calling.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:00):
I think the wider issue, if you look at not
just the comment, the comments pretty much expected from Wayne Brown,
it's how he addresses a lot of council stuff and
meetings in general public some time. So that's not really
the big issue. You look at the wider issue here.
This is about leadership and that's not how you build
a team, and it's certainly not how you address the public.

(17:21):
And there's been a number of community groups that have
faced this type of response from him. And I'm not
a member of the Rate Players Alive, but the fact
is they're trying to stick up four rate players around
Auckland and keep those rates down and booking to stabilize.

Speaker 11 (17:36):
And I think.

Speaker 10 (17:36):
Anyone that thinks that the great thing he's telling them
to a f off is basically giving themselves the middle finger.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Do you think that fifteen hundred emails on the same
issue was too many and it might have invited some
kind of strong response. Jason, Well, I'm in.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
The speedway group that's been through a similar thing. Now,
we haven't taken that approach, but I can tell you
that there are a number of community groups that just
get plane ignored from counsel right and Wayne Brown directly
via email. So whilst I don't agree with fifteen hundred emails,
and I'm certainly on the page we of there, it's
a little bit could be seen as a guerrilla approach

(18:17):
for lack of better term, but I can understand why
the frustration and perhaps why that tack has been taken because,
like I said myself, with our speedway group, we just
had every communication possible ignored. So that's just another bit
of an insight as to what's actually going on.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So yeah, so Jason with with with the wants and
needs for the speedway group, how much money is required
from that, from the from the council to you know,
do what you what you need to be done or
want to be done.

Speaker 10 (18:51):
Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 12 (18:53):
Pretty much.

Speaker 10 (18:54):
What was done was it was a private deal between
the promoter and council of which our sport was locked
out of, which is one of the reasons why we
are fighting via the court et cetera. But there's a
lot of miss them for around that, and I guess
we're digressing of it now, but that councilors, you know, councilors.

(19:16):
The councilors were misled by non elected officials, by withheld
information and incorrect information. And when you talk to other
community groups, which which I have, this is actually quite
common and counselor this is going on a lot where
councilors are making decisions but they are not having the
correct information put in front of them, and ultimately they're

(19:38):
they're copying some of the public flats for this as well,
nor seeners.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, and it's for you what you said, Jason, that
you know, he represents the people of Auckland and nobody
wants their rates to go up in ridiculous margins. But
to be fair to Mayor Brown, and he has made
at a point in the past during his tenure that
he doesn't want rates to go up either. But time
and time again, I've always heard local body elections, whether

(20:02):
it's Auckland, christ Which Wellington, wherever, everybody always says they
can keep rates under inflation, and it never has. I
have never seen anybody be able to keep their promise.
So to me, what he's basically saying is it's unreasonable
I can't say that I can do that if I'm
going to break that promise. So isn't that you know
there's a bit of respect there that he's actually been honest.

Speaker 10 (20:24):
Well, I agree with your viewpoint. It's unrealistic to keep
them at a predicted rate, and it doesn't happen in
any council.

Speaker 11 (20:32):
As you're aware.

Speaker 10 (20:33):
But the fact is that I can tellue from our
point of view, when when you have an attitude which
is pretty much dummed up by his response to a
community group, right, that just creates the vision. And that's
what happened with us, is the fact that he will
not even even talk to us. And we're not the
only group because there's a number of them around around

(20:54):
town that this has happened to. So it all comes
down to attitude. And also a lot of people probably
aren't aware. But when you when you start looking into
into what his role actually entails. He's supposed to engage
with the community in the ais with them, and like
I said, I take it a step further. That response
pretty much stums up what is going on with a

(21:14):
lot of community groups which are not getting the airplay
that they should through the media.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, thank you for you call Jason. I appreciate it.
The six says good afternoon, snowflake, so I say good
on them. And frankly, if my inbox was slammed with
fifteen hundred emails from a lobby group, the f off
wouldn't would have been followed up with the paragraph of
far worse expletitives than that, whether I was Mayor of
Auckland or the bloody King of England.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Good on your Dave. That's ambitious, right, Oh, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. How
do you feel about the language Mayor Wayne Brown used
when responding to the Auckland rate Payers Alliance. It is
twenty eight to two.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
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Back to Matteth than Tyler Adam.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Seeing you very much railing. So does Wayne Brown's blunt
email response off off to a lobby group make him
honest or does it show a lack of professionalism? One
hundred eighty ten eighties number to.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Coour So many texts coming through, Hey guys, I support him,
doesn't matter who you are. Fifteen hundred emails as harassment
and they got what they deserve. Next, stop the police.
That's from Matt Night. This text of however, says, fifteen
hundred emails from one person is spam. Fifteen hundred emails
from fifteen hundred people as democracy and action. If offers
an unacceptable response, chairs Philip, lads, Lads, Lads, his worship,

(23:40):
Wayne is clever. This is a classic marketing tactic called
rage engagement, more commonly known as rage baiting. It's a
tactic where creators post content specifically designed to provoke anger, frustration,
or outrage and viewers to increase likes, comments, and shares.
This type of content leverages strong negative emotions to boost
visibility and engagement, as people are more likely to interact

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with content that elicits a strong emotional response. John expensive
rates Wellington.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
We got my ten and that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But it wasn't John who really not John, It wasn't
Wayne who released it. That was just it looks like
Wayne just responded on his iPhone at eight forty five
am in the morning.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
If off Yeah, and then it was a lobby group.
I decided to publish it.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I can totally see what you're saying, John, and that's
definitely a tactic that has been used before. But I
think you're crediting his worship the mayor worth potentially more
strategical now, so on this occasion then he had. I
don't think there was. I don't think there's a strategy
in that.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Therefore, no, No, it looks like it.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I think it was Wayne Brown just being Wayne Brown. Allison,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 14 (24:47):
Oh it's has been so interesting, and I'm thinking, oh
my god, Evon has nothing on twoteen and a half
percent pay increase. Mine was over fifty, but most of
over fifty IO and a lot of people that I
know it was between seventeen eighty percent increase. You Allison
Franklin out of skirts and walkland a rule just like yvone,

(25:09):
except she'son Rodney. We had less than three weeks notice
that we were even gonna have this before we got
our rates demands on the pensioner that it takes one
hundred dollars out of my pension every fortnight just to
pay for my rates now without insurance and mortgages. And
those fifteen hundred people are probably people like me, and

(25:30):
it's he is. It is just out of control, and
I too, like Eyvon would love to pay to him.
It's off because and his attitude. He's not listening to
the people. And those fifteen hundreds to.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Bear, Allison, they're fifteen hundred emails from one group, not
fifteen hundred emails.

Speaker 14 (25:50):
Yes, well, and I dare say that they representing most
people like me.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it's pretty tough. I get
it out, Alison. It's pretty tough because you know, when
their numbers bandied around, the seven percent numbers bandied about,
that's an average across the city. And that doesn't help
people like you, does it?

Speaker 14 (26:10):
No, nothing's helped. We're all in shock. We have no services.
We have no foot paths, no lights, we have no water,
we have no sewage, we have nothing. And we've got charged.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
I got charged.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Really happened and hard to deal with, Alison.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
It's hard to deal with.

Speaker 14 (26:31):
But financially it's crippling.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Just on that, Allison. And I don't think anyone can
agree that fifty percent is a good thing to have
your rates increased by. But who is your local counselor
or someone that can lobby for you, guys, because most
fair minded New Zealanders would say that's that's unfair. That's
not right.

Speaker 14 (26:49):
Oh, yes we did. And Andy Baker is our representative
at the moment, he's standing again. But in typical Auckland
Council form, they've decided just to ignore us and push
ahead anyway. We had no, we have no show and
we're not going to get It's never going to go
any lower now, is it. We're paying what we're having

(27:10):
to pay now. So no, they're not listening to us.
Aukland Council just don't. We shouldn't have even been part
of the super City.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean, is there anyway? Because I always I
think that I was saying it if I before. It
just seems crazy that the parts that are included in
the super City. It's too it's too big, and it
covers places with such different needs. Yeah, so your needs
where you are in in where you are in Franklin

(27:39):
is absolutely entirely different. Where from what I what I
need living right here in central Auckland.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, can you succeed from the union or something else,
and you know, start a week campaign to just remove
yourself from Auckland.

Speaker 14 (27:53):
Apparently when Richard Rodney Hyde just you know, I just
decided that they would do this. It was supposed to
be on a trial basis, right, and as far as
and as far as I'm aware, it has never been.
It was never made the permanent thing, but it just
kind of evolved into that because it was only supposed

(28:13):
to be just a trial, and the trial would have
failed miserably because this is a rural town. It's getting
more provincial now, but it is still a rural town
like Rodney and all that way, and the services we get,
or rather don't get, are vastly diffront to what people

(28:34):
in the city get.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, absolutely, and thank you so much for you call Allison.
My rates increased in Howick was? My rates increase in
Howick was seventeen percent. Reason being because Council has chosen
to continue with a low UAGC uniform Annual General Charge
which we all this rate is set around forty percent
of the general rate, but legal limited is thirty percent.

(28:57):
This results in disproportionate number of rate payers paying well
over the average rate and getting disproportionate above the rates
increased due to an increased in property value. Has agreed
to look at fixing this next year to more equitably
spread the rates burden. Hope that helps explain the increases
for some that's from Maureen.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
That does help. Very interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
But I think it's crazy that rates are based on
your property failure. Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous. Someone they just
come up with these things and we and then we
allow them. Yeah, it's like, if you're using the same services,
then you should pay the same amount for the same
area of land.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, I agree, it's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Eighteen So they tied to house fellues. Yeah, yeah, I
mean because if you've got if you've got a more
expensive house, are you using more stuff?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Of course in the community, yeah you might be using yeah,
one hundred percent. But what do you say, oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty And the language used by
Mayor Brown, I f off to this lobby group acceptable
honest or is it unbefitting for someone in his role?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
The mayor said the mayor Simon says, Simon says, nothing
wrong with Wayne's language.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Harden up, you lot, god On your Simon, have a chat.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
With the lads.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
On eighty That heathens as afternoons used talk s'd be afternoons.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
So we are talking about Wayne Brown's blunt response to
the Auckland Ratepayers Alliance. It was simply if you sent
from his iPhone. Is that fear play or does it
go a but far for someone in a mirror position?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Ben, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on the IF
off from Wayne Brown?

Speaker 15 (30:27):
I probably would have sent an email back directly into
the nearest mental health facility. This fifteen hundred emails is
just ridiculous. Come on, they're trying to provoke a response,
and they got one like, yeah, I'm sorry, fift you
buy up, you know, pull someone's email up. For all
these emails, someone's going to spend time to go through

(30:49):
a delete them all. You know, there's probably not him himself.
It's probably a pretty secret, sariable whatever. But fifteen hundred, Now,
I think they knew they were going to get a response,
and that's what they banked on.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Then they got one.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, Ben, if I sent fifteen hundred text to an
ex girlfriend, I mentioned I'd been getting a knock on
the door from here, the police.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
The drag you to a courthouse, I.

Speaker 15 (31:11):
Think, yeah, yeah, no, no doubt you would.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
But well, what he said to Jason, who were talking
before on the phone, and he was saying that people
are getting frustrated with the lack of response from the
Auckland Council in general. So do you think that fifteen
hundred emails might if you don't get any response to
any of the emails, you know, like you just keep
going and going and going because you're frustrated.

Speaker 15 (31:36):
Well, you know there's a time, there are other options,
you know, just keep bombarding someone because it becomes harassment.
That's exactly what it becomes. And oh, okay, I'll probably
want to use the thing which he used, But I
don't blame him, like i'd vote to the guy like
he's you know, he's kept the rates down to an average,
you know, of a good percentage point compared to a

(31:58):
lot of other councils. He does what he says he's.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Going to do.

Speaker 15 (32:01):
And you see a lot of people, you know, went
against the sale of all the Auckland Airport. Well, if
he had got that sale through, a lot of people's
rates would have been kept down. And it's the same.
It seems like the same people that are complaining about
their rates going out are the same people that supported
the shares not getting herself so as their own fault. Really,

(32:24):
you know, he gave you an option to keep rates
slow and he didn't take it so as yourn fault.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
What part of Auckland do you live in, if you
don't mind me asking, Ben, west Aalkland And so is
your rates gone up and sort of ligned with the average? Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
I suppose being it's a leadership style, right, And some
would argue that someone who's a mayor or elected to
a council should be diplomatic and listen to criticism and
take it on board and listen to the people that
voted them in. But clearly that's not Wayne style. I
don't think he likes any sort of criticism and anybody
that comes at him and says you're doing a bad job,
then they probably get an f off. Do you prefer
that style of leadership or you think that's what's needed

(33:05):
in council.

Speaker 15 (33:07):
I'm sick of the spin and you know, people making
promises they can't keep and I want someone that's straight
up and tell you how it is. And that's what
you get from Brown and I like that style.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, thank you for your call. Ben. The sticks at
Russell raises an interesting point. It's ridiculous that a household
occupied by one person pays the same rates as the
house next door occupied by six people. So should rates
just be based on a per person and how much
you use?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
It makes more logical sense. There is a massive issue
with how rates that are calculated across regions, no doubt
about it.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
It should be completely So you get weighed and they
work out how often you're using the.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Bathroom, A bunch of things right right into the detail.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
How much pressure you're putting on the sewage system?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Get it. Do I get a discount for a B day?
If anything, I'd be charged more?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Will I Do you charge someone that's seven foot more
than someone that's five to one? Absolutely you do for
how much space they take in the city. But no,
I get the point that Russell's trying to make. So
we say, it's about the house and then and it's
the value of the house. It's not the size of
the house or the resources that the house take up. Yeah,
it's the value of the house. That's one of these

(34:17):
things that we just take as a standard. Oh, that's
what we do. But it's actually an incredibly radical idea.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, exactly. Remember we had that chat about that council
I think it was Naper council and they were giving
a discount to those who didn't put their WILLI bin
out as much as other people. I think that's the
kind of direction we need to be going in.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, boys, Brown did sell the airport, she is, but
not as many as he wanted.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
To, right, Yeah, I think that was the case he
wanted to.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
We'll look into that. Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighties to number to call, it's ten to two. Back
in a mow, Wayne was having a Friday wine, says
this text. And no, I thought, I don't know about
Wayne Brown's drinking habits, but it was eight forty five am,
so I think you can rule out that it was.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
It's quite an aspersion being past there.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Matteath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons
news talks.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
We've been talking about Wayne Brown saying if off in
an email response to being bombarded by the Auckland rate
Payers Alliance now TEX mentioned the airport's shares. So originally
mere Brown wanted to privatize the full eighteen percent share
that the Auckland Council holds of Auckland Airport, but he
did it, and the text has said that he did
sell the shares. You're right, he had to compromise, so

(35:31):
eight percent of the council's eighteen percent stake in the
airport was sold off and that was voted through. So
he wanted the full hog and had to compromise. But
thank you very much for that text.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Ken from Pooka Coe, Welcome to the show. How are
you today?

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Good? Thank you.

Speaker 16 (35:46):
I think that I don't think it's appropriate for a
man in his position to I don't be brassed off
for having all those emails, but still doesn't give him
a reason to answer back all that a man in
his position, and I think I think that everything needs
to be more transparent when you're thinking the money that's

(36:08):
Auckland Council get now compared to ten years ago, with
all the new developments, has been properties that would have
been paying a small amount of rates now playing colossal
rates because it's been so built up. What are they're
doing with all the money? I mean, or can transport
CEO six hundred and eighty six thousand and then with

(36:30):
bonuses get seven hundred and thirteen thousand. We need to
know what colories these guys are on. It's crazy one
of too much money is wasted by these councils. Needs
to be more transparent, need to print out of all
the money they received, all the Sudaris who get paid,
the consultants and everything. So we're going to see where
all this money is going.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, Ken, back to your first point. It is interesting
because you're supposed to address the mayor as his worship
and then someone that you that you addresses his worship
then comes out with an f off. So you bet
you would be fine with a blunt response though, because
this is a private correspondence that has been released by
the side that sent the email on the first place,
they got the e f off back, so it's not

(37:10):
quite the same as a mirror and his chains and
robe and public saying it if you know what No,
I'm I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
But if he just said.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
No response at all or leave me alone, would they
be all right for you king?

Speaker 16 (37:25):
Yeah, it would be. I mean, don't I don't believe
since he's been mayor, I don't believe he's haven't even
been out the Book of Coey.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, I can't confirm or deny that either, King if
you see him out there, let us know.

Speaker 16 (37:40):
Yeah, it's all way. While people say he's up seven
point eight this year and another seven point eight next year,
but then that makes it fifteen point six percent next
year because of the extra map from this year.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt that the
rates go up higher than inflation, but you could argue
that on average the rates in Auckland have gone up
less than they have and with some other councils across
the country.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Very true. Yeah, good discussion, Thank you very much. So
many texts have come through over that one. I don't
know it started off saying good on Wayne, but I
think it moves sort of closer to fifty fifty maybe
sixty forty in favor of saying it's Okatie say if off.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
It's sort of transitioned into everyone saying that the whole
way they do rates as a scam.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's a whole other discussion that I'm willing to have
one day.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, we'll bring that back next week. Maybe good discussion
coming up after two o'clock, we want to talk about
CPR and First Aid after a child luckily was saved
when they had an incident at Bay Waves, Wavepool and
Mount mong and Nui. Do you know first age? Do
you know what to do if you're faced in that situation?
It's going to be a good discussion. And also we're
celebrating all afternoon taylors Worth's new album being released at

(38:56):
five pm. A lot of excitement around the office. So
the song to the News this is called ready for
It from her album Reputation. She followed up nineteen eighty
nine with Reputation in twenty seventeen. The album was initially
polarizing and didn't chart as well, but in recent years
has become an absolute fan favorite. It was the only
album released under the Big Machine label that hasn't been

(39:19):
recorded by Taylor. It still went to number one in
New Zealand and went six times platinum. It's still pretty good.
So taking us to the News is the album's second single,
Ready for It. We'll see your back year very shortly.
The things we doing.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
It'd be very good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Cheer.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Welcome back into the program. I hope you're having a
fantastic Friday.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
We are.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
You're listening in the country. This is going to be
an interesting chat.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Before you have that interesting chat which I'm a part of,
and we're all a part of eight hundred. You got
something for us at eighty ten eighty no, no, I
just popped up on my screen. And I'm a big
fan of the actor Matthew mcconne Yeah. I like his books.
I like his book. He's got a new book out
of poetry actually, and he's just a great man and
great that guy, very intelligent, beautiful accent. All right, all right,

(40:18):
all right, But he's got a new movie out. That's
I just put the notification and for when the movie
came out, and it's called The Last Bus or the
what's it called the Lost Bus?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
The Lost Bus.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
So it's just come out on Apple just then, obviously
because the location. I asked for a notification when it
came out, and it's it's a movie about him being
a bus driver getting some students out of a raging wildfire.
Oh man, man, inspired by a true story.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Jesus looks good. You can't go wrong with Matthew mcconneey
these days, I think you put me onto it. But
it was he was doing a podcast, but of a
long form interview. Man, he's a smart guy. And his philosophy,
even if you don't agree with it, just hearing him
asher that philosophy beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah it is, and he's got that his accent makes it.
Everything he says, even if it's not meaningful, sounds so profound.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, he dragged you in.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
He's got that drawl. It's fantastic. Has Boot Green Lights
is really good. But anyway, Yeah, it just just popped
up on my phone notification, so I thought i'd mentioned
at the Lost Bars. I've been waiting for this movie.
It looks bloody bloody good.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Excited for that, right, this discussion is going to be
a good one. So some pretty terrifying news. On Monday afternoon,
a child was pulled unconscious from Bay Waves wave pool
in the Mount This is New Zealand's largest wave pool,
very popular, but lifeguards thankfully and nearby Paul goers. They
swiftly administered CPR on this child, reviving them before they
were transported to totong A hospital. They were initially in

(41:47):
a critical condition, but remarkably, the child has since recovered
and returned time. These people saved this child's life, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, But could they have saved the child's life if
it wasn't for the trained individual that was on hand
for them to deliver the child too, the life saver
Because when I read this story, as I was saying
to you before, it struck me that if I was
in that situation and there was no one there that
could perform CPR, yeah, that child would have been in
a terrible situation with me. Because I don't know how

(42:14):
to do it. I'm pretty sure I taught it at
high school. That was a long time ago. I've got
no idea. So it just got me thinking, what do
you need to know to be a great New Zealand
citizen out there who's prepared to step up and save
a life if it needs to be and capable of
doing it? Just sort of I was thinking about it.
Isn't that a basic that we should all take the

(42:36):
time out of our lives to get our head around?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean more than that. You know how you heal
a wound, you know, not just not just bringing somewhere
back to life. Because Tyler, if you came across someone
that had been electrocuted, would you know what to do?

Speaker 5 (42:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
No, not a clue and having that confidence to be
able to take action. That's a huge part of it,
isn't it. But I was just thinking what you've got
in your car as well, And for some reason I
was looking at torn case and you know you see
in the movies where you just whip off a T
shirt and wrap it into some sort of torn case.
Apparently that's not going to do it. Need the actual
proper big shebang that was gonna cut off the circulation

(43:13):
to potentially save somebody's life. So this article was saying
we should all have proper medical tornics in our car
in case you're driving along and you see an accident.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So do you put that above the cape? I'd be
wrapping it right around the cart and not doing anything.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Yeah, because it's kind of got some sort of little
stick on it that you have to really twist sight
and in the end that could potentially save someone's life.
But how many of us would know how to properly
use a tornic cake?

Speaker 5 (43:35):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, And just what to do if you came across
a car accident, right, you know, how you deal with
that situation, even how you deal with a fire. There
should be things you could go as far as to
say that you should be able to fight just in
case you need to protect someone. Yeah, you know, do
we need to muscle up and bone up on all

(43:57):
the things, some basic things to be there as a
mini emergency responder if the needs if needs be and
there's no one there, because if you take situation like
an ambulance. I came across the guy that was unconscious
on the street a few months ago, straight on the show. Yeah,
the ambulance, and bless them, they do a good job,
but there must have been a lot going on because

(44:18):
the ambulance took forty five minutes to get there. Yeah,
and we're just with this guy who's completely unconscious on
the street. We didn't really know what to do. And
you're probably thinking, Matt, you came across that and you
still haven't taken the time to learn any of this.
So I'm a bad person.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
But are you? Yeah? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Would you know what to
do when facing that situation? Or have you been saved?
Have you got yourself into trouble in someone a member
of the public or other came through and sorted you out.
Love to hear from you. It is twelve past two.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Wow your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams
afternoons call Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty youth
Talk said.

Speaker 13 (44:56):
Be.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Very good afternoon. We are talking about CPR, first aid
and other skills you may need to save somebody who
gets into a dangerous situation.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
This is interesting and this isn't what we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
So what is it?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's it's the third day of this month, gents, great subject.
It is Saint John's Shoctober month. There are three one
hour courses on CPR and using an AED check it
out on Google. There will be a course near you.
And yes, I said free for one hour of your life,
you could save a life. Cheers chiwd good See Wow,
the wind is the world, isn't synk isn't that?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
It certainly is.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
We live in a simulation.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call Cody. Someone did CPR and you yeah.

Speaker 17 (45:40):
So About ten years ago, I was over in Australia
and I was swimming in an apartment pool and having
a competition with my friend who was the only other
one of the pool and we were trying to see
who could do the most insider water as you do
when you're young, dumb and stupid, and I had shelleywood
a blackout, so I passed out the pool and then
he drank me out and did CPR. So it was

(46:01):
about four minutes so I was not breathing full So wow, wow, Yeah,
lucky he knew what he was doing. And I've got
it all on CCTV, so I've actually been able to
watch it.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Which is pretty pretty wow.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So you've you've that must be So what's it like
to look a picture of you completely prone and on
your way out and being brought back. That must be
the most incredible footage to watch. I can imagine.

Speaker 17 (46:23):
Oh, it's pretty scary. Like I didn't watch it for
a while, but yeah, I was in hospital for a
few days after that as well. They were worried I'd
done some damage to my brain, but I wasn't. You're
right in the end, I did feel very stupid for
a few days though, Like I just I wasn't. I
couldn't think or anything like that. But I'm just lucky
he knew CPR and I do. I do first day
training at work as well, so I'm pretty comfortable I
could do CPR on someone. I think I could, but

(46:47):
it was scary, Like I mean, I know, I don't
believe in any of it after I stuff, but it
felt like the period it was unconscious about like a
long time, like I sort of recall it, like I
felt like I was in my I was in my body,
floating above my body, trying to wake up, but I
just couldn't couldn't wake up. And then all of a
sudden I woke up and I freaked out and tried
to get up, and I just couldn't walk or anything.
I had no watch on my system, I get, but yeah,

(47:07):
it was. It was a scary time.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And how do you thank someone that has done that
for you?

Speaker 17 (47:13):
Cody A bottom a bottle is something I think it was.
Then I don't really say I touched them now named Ben,
so be listening. Ben, thanks very much, But yeah, I
don't know. I got a wife and two kids now,
and I never would have obviously had the opportunity if
I offended to know what he was doing. I think
in the time, at the time it was happening, and

(47:34):
there was the nurse somewhere nearby that came and outed
as well. And yeah, so it's yes. I don't know,
it's weird talking about it now because I haven't thought
about it in a long time, and obviously the topic
you're talking about today sort of reminded me.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah. Well it's interesting because you've got kids, and you
probably wouldn't have kids, would you. I mean, those kids
would not exist. So that's that's a terrifying thought, isn't it. Well,
I will say that you sound it doesn't sound like
you damaged it all. You sound you sound very sharp.
Did you do the training because of this incident or
because you're a parent, or why have you done the
training that you think that you could save someone in

(48:06):
this kind of situation? Cody?

Speaker 17 (48:09):
The job Iman puts me through the training. I actually
have a two day first day course coming up in
a couple of a couple of weeks as well, so
more training for me, like they do it periodically.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Well, if I go down, I hope you're about Yeah,
just out of interest, I mean, slightly left field question here, Cody.
But you mentioned it before so as you were starting
to fade out and you talk about that out of
body experience, But was there their panic or did you think, right,
this is it, I'm on my way out. I mean,
what went through your head and that that scenario before
you did go unconscious?

Speaker 17 (48:37):
It was absolute panic, Like I was unconscious and I
was trying to wake myself up but I just couldn't.
It was really, really weird, and I believe in none
of that stuff, but it just it was crazy and
l eight hours and it was only a minute.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Well, glad you're with us, Cody. What was the name
of your friend again.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Ben Ben?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Good?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Ben Ben from Taranaki. What a great New Zealander. Yeah,
all right, thank you for your call, Cody.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
What a great Sclori.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
You're still with us?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Absolutely, thank you very much. O one hundred and eighty
ten eighty. Do you know how to do CPR save
somebody's life? If you need to love to hear from you, Chris.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
You can out with us. So you teach CPR. Is
that correct?

Speaker 16 (49:13):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
You stole my front thunder a little bit when you're
talking about shot tober. So I'm what's called a community
educated volunteer. Hate honey. Saint John has lord up and
down the country, and the main stay of our program
is called three steps for light. So that's the number
three steps for light. And what that is is you're
familiarize people what happens when you do a one one one,

(49:35):
how to do CPR, and what AD looks like and
how to access them, and quite often we get a
lot of other sort of questions. So we usually start
with talking about a set of letters that you would
learn on a first aid course. Have you done a
first aid course before?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
No, I did in high school, but I you know,
I have forgotten most of it.

Speaker 7 (49:54):
To be honest.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Here's a big drinker back then.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
So yeah, So we talk about doctors ABC, so DRF, A, B, C,
D so D. You stand for dangers, So that's dangers
to you all the person that you're trying to help.
So unfortunately, in the homes, you know, like you might
have a wet titching floor, you might slip as well,
so put a towel down. We have some accidents where
people step out onto the road on the left side

(50:18):
and don't look right and get taken out by another car.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, because you've been in plant state, wouldn't you, So
you'd make terrible decisions if.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
You're look here for Yeah, and particularly if it's your kid,
you know you're just not what so doctors. Then the
next one is response. So this is where you want
to see the person who might be lying on the ground.
Do you get a response? So what we what we
teachers go and now hi, my name's press open your
eyes and then if they open your eyes, they can
hear you and they are alert. If they don't open

(50:45):
their eyes or you get no movement, you squeeze their shoulders.
You're looking for that unconscious. You don't get that. You
didn't check to see whether the breathing. So the unconscious
and non responsive go one on one, okay, and also
get someone with fears to go find ad. Then you
start doing CPR. And CPR was kind of pretty easy.
We've got kids in our youth program who are eight

(51:06):
years old that can do. Man this little app that
you can check how you go your compressions and you
can get one hundred percent. These kids can do it,
so anybody can do it. And it's just putting your
hands in the middle of the chest between down from
their nose, across in their armpits, middle of the chest,
arm straight and then start compressions. So said, when you
first come across somebody don't worry about counting the numbers.

(51:27):
Just get in there and do it straight away. But
if you're doing it for a longer time, you talk
about the cadence rate and everybody knows the song. Stay
in the live, Stay in the live, or row row
row the boat gently down the stream. So you aiming
for about one hundred and ten beats per minute, and
the other thing being as you do thirty thirty compressions

(51:47):
to two breaths if you can do breasts, but you
don't have to. And when the AAD arrives, you've got
skin already. You connect it up step back. That tells
you what needs to happen, gets the body of shot,
and then you keep on going. That's the simplicity of it.
Be faith, do some sort of CPR, because any CPR
is better than no CPR, and just do your best

(52:07):
because and sometimes and a bit triggering. Maybe the person's
already dead so you're trying to bring them back. Yeah,
but Saint John has this program for three steps alight
and October is our Shoctober month, so we try and
max out and get to as many people as possible.
So if you've got a business, Bunnings a supermarket, an

(52:28):
accountancy firm, and you would just like give you a
people a forty minute session then give them a go
get online aspect and we'll turn up up and down
the country. It's all free and we're just trying to
get that message out there. We also do it for
the rest of the.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Year as well as this place. Is this speed here, Chris, Yeah,
st dirt.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Dirt that's quite fast.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
And there's a lot of Beyonce song In fact, there's
a playlist on Spotify for CPR songs if you're that
engaged here and also and also there's an app you
can get aed Finder, so you can get the app
so you look at your phone and you can see
we you're near nearest ads, particularly if you've got an
older member or a member in your family that has
some sort of medical condition, you should really know where

(53:15):
they are.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
What are those?

Speaker 5 (53:17):
What are those?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Just just just specifically what are those?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Well, so the AD is describulated device, I know where's
a gizet shot to the body. You will see them
all around the country in the big yellow boxes.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, and they're pretty good. They're pretty good. A when
you when you when you use them, it'll give you instructions.
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Absolutely, They talk to you and they give you the
beat as well if you want and how when to breathe.
They're in the boxes. You know, one or one you
get the code, dash it over. I unfortunately had fourteen
just as an ordinary civilian driving around Wellington, I had
fourteen incidents I came across in January and February. Wow,
I think would be a bit of a magnet for

(53:57):
in the road and somebody somebody would slip over on
the side of the road and they'd be lying in
the carp or something like that. So I ended up
going and buying my own a d and put it
in my car because if it saves a life, that's
go for it.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
You're a great New Zealander. But also you also seem
like a bit of a vortex for incidents. But you're
a great.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
It wasn't januine February. Maybe it was a satisfide with
my Christmas presents or something. But and you know, we
can come into your studio and do it and let
you two have a go if you want.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Please, yeah, yeah, please, we would love that.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
We need to do that. I'd hate for trailer to
go down and me lose them because I don't know
what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
And there's a high probability in the.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah, he is quite old and he's got those other habits,
and you know, I mean you could go down because
of all the robotics strapping you're doing.

Speaker 11 (54:41):
You could be careful.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Hey, Chris, just another question? What about So there's this
there's the the what is it?

Speaker 13 (54:48):
The D?

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Danger's response? And what's the third one?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Doctor's ABC danger response scene for help? And then seeing
for help. You seem to get your a D. Then
you do your earways, breathing CPR, connect the defibrillator. It's
just the thing to run through your mind. What do
I need to do? Check it I'm safe, Check the
tee the person's responding, because if they're responding, you don't
want connect the AD because you know there might be

(55:15):
a bit peeved at you if you suddenly give them
a shock to start your heart and they're ab to you.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Okay, what about the problem that you know, sometimes you
come across someone there in a bad state and then
it turns out that they're just drunk. That's the response thing.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
So we're really lucky in New Zealand And New Zealanders
really do care if we see somebody stumbling around. And
remember somebody could be stumbling because they're drunk, or because
they're disoriented, or it could be a diabetic attack, or
it could be a nut of it. So there's a
bunch of different reasons. So the first thing there was
try and engage with them. And the next thing that

(55:51):
comes to mind is the dangers. This becomes dangerous for
you and they walk on to the middle of the
road and you try and stop the traffic, don't try
to approach them, and that's when I would be calling
one or won't ask the police to come and give help.
So just yeah, we're quite lucky like that.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Well, God on your question, what's the best way again
to get those Shoctober courses?

Speaker 4 (56:10):
So figures three three steps for life at Saint John
dot org dot n Z. We paid it all explains there.
But that's the email. And then we've got a couple
of really great managers and they will find somebody and
then we'll turn up and Wellington quite likely to be
meet but and I do a lot for planket no
sort of things as well. So there's anybody we can

(56:32):
go to that might save a life.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
What's interesting because you're obviously a vortex for incidents where
they need your help. We're we're we're also stumbled across
shocktober completely accidentally.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Yeah I know.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
So you produce a said, but down Wellington, down and Welton,
we're really lucky because we have choctober as well. So
that's with with it is chocolate. So maybe next year
you come and do a course and we'll give you
a chocolate bart.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
That sounds pretty good.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, but if you're.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Wellington you're got choptober as well, so it's a good
chance they ever go there.

Speaker 6 (57:00):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Chris, you're a good man and we thank you people
like yeah see mate, thank for people like chriss out
in the community. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. Plenty of calls to get to
if you want to say, it takes nine two nine two.
Do you know how to save someone's life if you
need to, if you find yourself in that situation, it's
twenty seven past two.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Apparently. Another one bite the dust is a good one
as well. Don't don't don't, don't, don't, durn done pay June,
don't durn't don't. Yeah, good Chune love it? Okay, very
good enough.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on used talk SV.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, you say you're bet after the stink
jump the gun? There you say your bet about the
station and the time and what we're talking about after
the stak All right.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
So excited we're talking about CPR and I jump the gun. Okay, okay,
all right, now you go, what are we a year
into it?

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Now?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
We're professionals here.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Coming up in October. Have been doing this for a year.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Amazingly time flies when you're having fun.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
You think we'd learned how to do it at some point.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Oh eight hundred eighty today is a number to call it.
I've had so many texts coming through about CPR. Do
you know what you're doing if someone gets in trouble
and you need to perform CPR on them or first aids?
Plenty of texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Aa AEDs in all ASB banks, these stations and McDonald's
and lots of other places. You can search AED in
both app stores to find your closest AED in your community.
Says this Texter me, thank you for that. That's great
to know. Good afternoon, Matt. As a father of four children,
I did a first aid course and an advanced resuscitation course.

(58:39):
Quite selfishly. I was doing it so that I'd be
able to try and save my kids if anything ever happened.
It's a very worthwhile thing to do. Quite recently, I
was amongst the first people on the scene of a
head on collision and Ellerslie. I have to say the
training was very helpful, but it is incredibly confronting when
you arrive on the scene of a serious accident. I
was very grateful that there was a doctor there already. Sadly,

(59:01):
the occupant of one of the cars died on the scene.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I take my head off to all the hat off.
Don't take your head off. I take my hat off
to all of the first responders who deal with these
issues on a daily basis. Absolutely incredible work. In the
term Great New Zealanders banded about a lot these days,
but particularly by Mate, but first responders.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah, absolutely right, coming up, We've got the headlines, plenty
of calls to get to, so we'll get to more
of your story shortly. But We're also going to be
joined by Gareth Richards. He is a pre hospital and
retrieval medicine doctor with the WESTPEC Rescue helicopter. We got
plenty of questions for him about what we all need
to upskill on if we need to save someone's life.
So that is coming up next.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Someone's saying that the Baby Shark song is perfect for
the speed, but we're not going.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
To We've got to play a little bit of that. No,
I've got it lined up ready to go. I saw
that come through and I need to hear it. That
Andrew shaking his as it's.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
A mind crime. That is an invasion of people's mental space.
Playing that song it will stick with you for years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Can we put it out to the text audience, would
you like to hear a little bit of Baby Shark
two nine two? Yay or nay? And what will determine?

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And whatever the result comes back, it's a nay.

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to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Thank you very much. Ray Lean So in a moment
we will be speaking to Gareth Richards. He's a pre
hospital and retrieval medicine doctor with the Westbat Rescue Alicopter
knows a lot about the skills we should probably all
have to some extent when it comes to saving somebody's
life if you need to. But Kenny, your story is
on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Troy, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (01:01:56):
Thik that Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
So you've had an experience with firsthand emergency response, Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:02:03):
Multiple experiences over the years. I'm a surfer of a
few years and I've had to deal with people drowning
just that. Every summer. I thought I'd rang in because
it's such a nice day. I'm down here in Southland
and it's a beautiful day. Mountains are all shut and
people will be starting to head to the beach as
soon and I've just got like three. Well, there's been

(01:02:25):
every summer. There's been lots of lots of examples. I
used to live in christ Church and there's a feeling.
Notorists rip up there and some in the corner of
some of the beach in every summer, Big Northwales and
you get people swimming in the corner there. Probably the
last time I was up there, there was three young guys.
They were all getting swimming and they all got pulled
out in the rip. I've been surfing.

Speaker 17 (01:02:46):
I saw them.

Speaker 19 (01:02:47):
I was probably about a minute away from one of
them drowning. They were starting to go under, and I
went out on the board pulled them all back in.
I had an incident in Bali a few years ago.
There was a Russian lady. She's never been to the
beach before, and she was getting sucked out to sea
and she was freaking out. Managed to get her, but
she was like, you know, she was screaming, you know,
she thought she was going to die. And then probably

(01:03:09):
in the last few years, my daughter were up at
the Florus Bridge up there one summer and she was
probably about seven, I suppose, and she followed some friends
into the river to go swimming. When under didn't touch
the bottom, came up, went under again. When she came
up the second time, the lock on her face and
she went under the third time, and I just ran all.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
My clothes and dived in and pulled her out, and
she was probably ten seconds away from drowning.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:03:36):
But I just thought it wrong because every summer, you know,
it's important. We live on an island, so you need
to sort of keep an eye out and then we
surf us up and down the country hill help.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
In the water.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
I'm sure I'm not a professional.

Speaker 19 (01:03:48):
Like that last chap you had on there, but yeah,
I think it's pretty important just to keep an eye
out on people.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
What's the current thinking about a rip? So if you're
in a rip, is still the idea not to fight
it so you've got your energy when you're thrown out
the other side.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Yeah, totally, yep.

Speaker 19 (01:04:02):
Yeah, And I mean most beaches, like look at Piha
and all those really well populated beaches, there's usually like
close by some where the rippers there is a lifeguard
boat there and there is no arm that you can push,
but there's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Not usually people watching, but there is a lot of
people in the water.

Speaker 19 (01:04:19):
But yet generally you don't panic try and float. But
when once people start screaming and waving their hands and
saying they're going to die, it's usually a pretty good
time to go and try and drag them out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Yeah, I mean, but you know there's always those situations
as well though, when people go and help and they
save the person, but they end up losing their lives themselves,
which is which is always such a tragic story when
you hear.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
That, Yeah, but thank god for people like you, Troy,
and the surface, and you're right about some that can
be a really notorious creature beach.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
How different was it, Troy to you know, the feelings,
the parental instant when your daughter was in that situation,
because you know, I've had my son went over under
at one point, just a total cock up by me.
But the panic, every second of that panic I can
remember to this day seeing my son go under. It was, Yeah,
it's quite intense, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Yeah, it's horrifying.

Speaker 19 (01:05:09):
And I saw the lock on her face and she
was out of her debt, and you know, it was
a beautiful sunny day. There was quite a few people there,
but I was watching, watching her like a hawk. And
when she came up, and when she went under the
third time, the lock on her face as she went under,
that that was it. I just sprinted. I was probably
I don't know, fifteen meters away from my spy. I
just sprinted and all my clothes just doped and pulled

(01:05:32):
her up. And you know, you just have to be
so careful.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
People don't realize beaches are the same.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
You know, Heavens heavens summer.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
You just have to be very vigilant.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
You got on you You just sound like a great dad. Troy. Hey,
finally before we let you go, you have you served
in the Catlands.

Speaker 19 (01:05:49):
Yeah, but I'm pretty lucky where I live now. There's
a lot of surf close to where I live, so
I'll get a bit lazy. I don't drive to the
Catlands for pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
That's pretty hard called the Big Waves and the Catlands
some of those.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Oh yeah, it's not my thing, but there's plenty of
guys down there that love that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Some beautiful beaches there and there's not always the temperature
of my want them to be, but incredible beacheres Hey,
thank you so much for you call, Troy, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, what a great call. Right coming up after the break,
we are going to have a chat to Gareth Richards,
pre hospital and retrieval medicine doctor with West Pet Rescue helicopter.
So that is coming up next twenty two three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
A fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten
eighty youth talks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
They'd be seventeen to three. So we've been talking about CPR,
and first staid, do you know what to do if
you come across a situation when somebody needs your assistance.
A man who does know what to do is Gareth Richards.
He is a pre hospital and retrieval medicine doctor with
the West Pet Rescue helicopter and he's just back from
a job. No Lesson joins us on the phone. Now, Gareth,

(01:06:51):
very good afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
To you, good saying thanks for having me along.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Can you share any details of the job or is
that as that private.

Speaker 11 (01:07:00):
We went to see a young man who'd had an
excellent out on one of the islands in the Gulf,
and with the help of his family managed to write
them with some treatment and get them into start a
possible all successfully to get some further management of that problem.
Very well and we expect them to do very well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Oh good on you mate, that's fantastic. Now we were
talking about CPR before, and have've talked about a bit,
but CPR is one thing. What should you do if
someone's bleeding?

Speaker 11 (01:07:30):
Look, if you can see bleeding, then seeing where it's
coming from, then the simplest thing to do is to
put some pressure on it, and without making that sound simplistic,
it's what we teach people in all sorts of situations.
So whether it's an accident at the side of the road,
whether it's someone who's been involved in a terrorist incident

(01:07:52):
like we've talked about seen recently in the last twenty
four hours in Manchester in England, or if someone's injured
on the battlefield. The idea of simple pressure over a
bleeding point is a very very effective way of helping
control that bleeding until appropriately people can come and do
something of a greater degree of intervention. So some simple

(01:08:12):
pressure on it, even with fingers and thumbs and a
little bit of gauze or something similar, making sure that
you keep yourself safe at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
What's the advice around tornice's? I mean, is it ever
worth trying to fashion some sort of tornice yourself or
is that not really the advice if you see someone
who's bleeding.

Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
It's an inesting question. Though in the nineteen eighties it
was something we used to see on when I was
growing up. It was something we used to see on
TV all of the time, and then it went out
of fashion quite significantly, and it's come back into our
clinical practice with experience in the wars and past like
Iraq and Afghanistan, that the simple thing to do for

(01:08:53):
a simple bleeding point is to put some pressure on it,
and the event of catastrophic bleeding, then a tornice is
something that we will use. There are downsides to it
in terms of blood supply to the rest of that
in and potentially causing injury, but it's something in our
armentarium we'd encourage people in the first instance, just do

(01:09:15):
some nice direct pressure, nice and firm and see whether
that's enough to stop the bleeding.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
There is a reasonable chance Gareth, that you know you
might come across someone with a stab wound. What should
you do if the staber is still there? I mean,
that's a problem, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:09:34):
It was interesting talking to listening to your previous caller.
Is this idea of people want to help, People want
to get involved, but it's really important that you maintain
your own safety in the first instance as well. If
you being there and intervening and helping simply makes you
another casualty, then that doesn't help you. It doesn't help

(01:09:56):
the person that you've tried to save, and it doesn't
help the emergency services that are coming to you. So
if we're going, if we're tasked to an incident like that,
then the police will clear that scene for us and
say that it is safe to go and help the
people that need our help. If you're approaching that as
you're somebody walking down the streets or you're out of

(01:10:17):
the movies or out of the shopping center, then making
sure that you're safe in the first instance, and calling
for help from emergency services, so the sooner you call
for help, the sooner that help can be on its
way and helping to manage that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Is there any advice at all? And this is probably
a tough thing to put on someone like yourself, so
just tell me if you don't want to answer the question,
But is there anything any words you should yell at
someone that has you know, stabbed someone or attacked someone
that that helped clear the scene? Is it helpful to
stand back and go get out if you leave them alone?

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Is there words that can help in that kind of situation?

Speaker 11 (01:10:56):
I think that's so unpredictable, isn't it. You're trying to
understand the mental state and the motivation of the person
that we think has actually caused that injury in the
first place. I think that's very unpredictable. So I approach
to it would be trying to withdraw myself from that
scene to a safe distance, maybe keeping an eye on
who the person is that we think is the offender,

(01:11:18):
and calling to help. Trying to provide as much information
as possible to the emergency service call that you're getting
in touch with, but maintaining your own safety is really
key here. We don't want you to be hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
As part of this, we're speaking to Gareth Richards. He
is a pre hospital and retrieval medicine doctors with the
West Pat Rescue Helicopter. Gareth, say, you come across a
traffic accident and clearly you've got some skills there that
you can assist. I mean, is it not quite a
similar thing. But that idea of taking that leadership approach
and trying to manage what is going on around you

(01:11:52):
when you've got those skills, is that something that needs
to be taught as well.

Speaker 11 (01:11:57):
I think there's great opportunity there isn't there. So we've
got a number of programs on television of pre hospital
paramedic and helicopter responses. As someone sitting at home now
watching those things on TV, there's an opportunity to have
a think about how you might approach it if you
came upon a scene like that, because that's the way

(01:12:17):
it evolves. You're driving down the road, you see a
car branch. The approach is the same is we want
you to be safe. So the first thing is to stop,
take a breath, and just get your head together to
check that there's no danger to you specifically, so things
like power lines that are down, things like fuel legs
that may ignite around hot engines, for example, those things

(01:12:40):
that are going to put you at danger oncoming traffic,
so making sure that your car is protecting you from
oncoming traffic, for example, identifying what the problem is, so
who are the people that are injured, what are the
number of those people, and then calling for help. Again
this idea of getting emergency services activated early so that

(01:13:00):
people can come to you. And if those are the
first things that you can do and make sure everyone
else is safe at the same time, then that response
is already well underway to help the people that are injured.
And then we get into the ABC type approach that
we can talk about for resuscitation in CPR, and you
may have covered already what about burns?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
What should do if you come across some with burns
while you're waiting for other help to come. What's the
current thinking on that.

Speaker 11 (01:13:31):
Yeah, there's a horrible idea that that terrible injuries are
really confronting. They can be enormously painful for the people
that the person that's been burnt again, the same same
general approach, So is it safe to be involved? Who
are the number of casualties? What sort of response are
they able to give you? Making sure helps on the way.

(01:13:53):
We provide often some fairly simple interventions for burn victims
when we're transporting them, so will give them We'll do
our resuscitation component, We'll add some pain relision. Simple things
might be wrapping something like some lad wrapper around the
burns as well to seal them off from the air.
Not too tight, we don't want to affect the circulation

(01:14:13):
to those limbs. But simple glad wrap is a surprising
piece of first aid that we use, even on the helicopter.
There are lots of different burns creams and dressings as well,
but we like to keep things simple.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yeah, so you'd probably recommend people to have a decent
first aid kit in their car and in their house.
I imagine Gareth again, I think it's enormously useful.

Speaker 11 (01:14:35):
So the having the equipment, having an idea of how
to use them, so that there's lots of different first
aid courses that are taught s John offers them. There
are private providers a first aid first aid courses. Having
an idea of what's in your kit. It doesn't have
to be all the bells and whistles, so just some
simple things, like we said, maybe some gloves to protect you,

(01:14:57):
to be able to stop some bleeding, an idea of
how to do CPR, some simple first aid interventions, and
maybe some simple pain relief, and we know where that
is and how to access this, and what's in your kit,
making sure that it's up to date and that you
know how to use the things that are in there.
It's better to be able to use a small number
of things effectively than to have a whole bunch of

(01:15:20):
things in your first A tip that you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Really know what to do with a couple of techs
coming through here, what about choking? Can you ask them
about choking?

Speaker 12 (01:15:28):
Choking?

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
Yep, So again depends a little bit on the injury
or what's the cause. But the approach again would be
this very simple structured approach. So is there any danger
to you? Is the patient responding? If not, then I'm
calling for help. I'm getting those emergency services along the way.
Some simple airway maneuvers would be to check inside the

(01:15:50):
mouse and make sure there's nothing that's including the breathing,
just that unresponsive. Can you get to get the whatever's
in their mouth or the upper part of their throat
out of the way. Does that help? And if they're
not responding still, then we go down this pathway of
the ABC type approach. I'm managing the airway, starting to
do some supportive breathing and doing some CPR.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well, thank you so much, Gareth and you guys do
fantastic work. And there's a bunch of people just texting
through thanking you for the great work you do at
the Whisky Rescue helicopter.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Great people. It is seven to three back very shortly.

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The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
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It is five to three We've had so many calls
and texts on this, we're going to carry it on
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Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Zebby afternoon to you. Welcome back into our final hour
for this week, seven past three. So we've been having
a great chat about first aid CPR. What skills do
you know or should you know if you ever put
in a situation where you may have to save someone's life.
We had so many calls and texts came through that
we are going to carry it on. So I'd love

(01:18:36):
to hear your stories. On Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
The six says Westpac Helicopter are as you say, Matt,
Great New Zealanders love that discussion with Gareth. I'm putting
a glad rap in my car right now for burns.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Nice, very good, right, So, oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety
two is the text number right now, though it is
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Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Would be very good Afternoons Tu it is fourteen past three,
so we're getting back into our discussion about first aid
and CPR. This is on the back of a young
child who remarkably was saved by a lifeguard and by
some people at the Paul and Mount Mong and Nui
as well. It was the child was sent to tait
on a houspital w in a critical condition, but thanks

(01:23:29):
to the skills of that lifeguard and others, yeah, child's
life has been saved.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
And as we were saying, I read the story and
it struck me that if no lifeguard had been around
at that point and I'd been there, then that kid
would have been in huge amounts of trouble. And that
just questions what kind of human being am I being?
And what kind of New Zealand citizen am I being?
If I haven't learned those details? So I want to
do it. And we started talking about this and found
out it was actually Shoctober. Yes, So in a great

(01:23:54):
moment of synchronicity, sh October with Saint John's is on
right now where you can contact them and get three
one hour courses on CPR and first responding. So how
good is that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
No excuse? Yeah, get onto that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Yeah. So the question really is, you know, how prepared
should you be? You know, is it your obligation as
a citizen to go out there and be able to
deal with these kinds of situations. This is a text
that's come through that is just so, you know, proves
the point. Really, I was saved by a stranger, still
in touch. Fifteen years later, I get the man birthday

(01:24:32):
and Christmas presents, So lucky someone new CPR was there,
So blessed, so grateful. His name was Stephen. He's from Dunedin.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Oh that is lovely lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
If you're in particular Stephen from Dunedin, then you're listening.
Good on you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Yeah, great New Zealander clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Oh thirty presents in total so far, and thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Very good nudge. He deserves everyone who's been.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
A Birthday and Christmas present for him for fifteen years.
Yeah thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
It's a good haul. Yeah, yea, Daves with it just
for the present, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Welcome to the show, Dave.

Speaker 18 (01:25:04):
Oh good eight fellows.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
You're right, Yeah, pretty good. You better than you were
when the incident went down.

Speaker 18 (01:25:11):
Yeah, mate, it was well, I don't remember much, but yeah,
just to illuminate the terrain for the listeners. I last year,
January fourteenth, last year, I had a kadak arrest at
three o'clock in the morning and my partner resuscitated me
with CPRS. I was gone for fifteen minutes and then
the Ambos and firebrigate arrived and continued on the task

(01:25:35):
and woke up five days later in cross Each hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Wow, and good on your partner, and thank goodness that
she knew what she was doing to keep you going.
So you didn't you were you had the arrest? Were
you asleep when it happened.

Speaker 18 (01:25:50):
Yep, I was gone to dead mate. I was ka,
I was ka gone wow intense purposes. If I hadn't
if she hadn't woken up and heard, excuse me, the
bit of the gurgling going on and so forth, the
so called death rad, all I would have she would
wake it up and been planning what color coffin?

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
I would have been having.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
And when five days later you woke up in the hospital,
what were the conversations, like, what were the questions you're asking?
There must have been incredibly discombobulating.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
I was made.

Speaker 18 (01:26:22):
It was unbelievable. I didn't have a clue what would happened.
I was basically I woke up and I had tubes
coming out of me and lights flashing and all sorts
of you know, the usual pilava and so yeah, that
was that was it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
So I was, Yeah, my life was all.

Speaker 18 (01:26:41):
But over, having but saved by the partner. Yeah, who
you know did the CPR for fifteen minutes by herself.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
It would have been terrifying for her for that fifteen
minutes while the ambos came. I'd take it she had
some skills in that area, or she she had enough
that she knew what she needed to try and do.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
Well.

Speaker 18 (01:27:01):
Look, you know, I'll be straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
She's actually a doctor that helps, but helps.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Well, yeah, I can do.

Speaker 18 (01:27:11):
But look, you know I have come from a back.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
A few years back.

Speaker 18 (01:27:17):
I was on Ambo. I performed CPR on a taxi
driver who had a cardiac arrest and he's still holding
his cup of coffee when he went down. Look, unfortunately
that guy did not survive. I like to think it
wasn't my fault, but he was. You know, he had
hit a massive my cardio in flaction and he died
literally before he hit the ground. So I kind of

(01:27:39):
get both into that speech room. I performed CPR on
him for ten or fifteen twelve minutes. I think it
was so Yeah. Look, just to Honeing on your point,
everyone should have some sort of basic training at the
very least no CPR. And if you do no CPR,
then you know, you know, keep up, keep up the

(01:27:59):
practice because things have changed, you know, things are constantly changing.
There's a great app that you can download called good
Sam And if you're a CPR our exponent, you know
that you can download the app and it will alert
you to someone having a cardiac arrest within about a
thousand meters of you. So if you want to respond
to that, it's totally voluntary, it's totally free, and that's

(01:28:19):
that's another kind of cool thing to have. And as
well as the ad locations, you could download that app
as well. But it's that first called it's called good Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Good Sam good Okay Samaritan, Yeah, good Sam, good Sam.

Speaker 18 (01:28:34):
Yeah, it's called good Sam Responder. You can download off
your you Play Store or the Apple Store App store
and yeah, look it's just you can download your phone.
You keep it open if you're if you want to
be part of that community, someone has a cardiac or
suspect the cardiac arrest, that you'll get the alert and

(01:28:55):
you can actually respond if you want to. But look,
it's definitely important. You don't know, I mean, I'm not
I didn't have any I didn't have any signs prior
to my cardiac arrest. I didn't I didn't have the
left hand, the left shoulder, draw sort of pain and
all that sort of sweating, you know, like they show
on the TV ads. My pain was on my right side,

(01:29:17):
so that totally you know, I didn't think, oh, I'm
not having a categorist. You know, I didn't really there's
no signs, so you don't know, mate, I never know
when it's going to you know, when that sort of
thing's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
What a unique position you are in life, Dave, that
you've both attempted to save someone with a fifteen minute
CPR and been saved by it. So I know, So
what was the feeling like when you're working, you know,
working on this person that's gone down, this taxi driver
and you must have started to know that it might

(01:29:53):
not be working, but you're still going. Took us through
the emotions of that and how that all played out,
if you don't mind.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 18 (01:30:02):
Look I was off dirty at the time, and I
was in Bledhem and where I lived then, and look
I've filled him up a car with gas and a
woman comes running out and from the little taxi office
in Queen Street and blend him saying, look, Bill's you
know collapse. Anyway, the feeling was just total, you know.
I tried to kick into you know, automation, you know
that I need I know what I need to do.

(01:30:24):
And seeing the man lying down there, you know, he was,
like I said, he still had his cup of coffee
in his hand. He sort of gripped at coffee, wasn't
in it. He was on the ground doing the CPR.
Was just it's very intense, and anyone who's done CPR
on a person knows this. You just try and do
your best. And you know, am I pushing too hard?

(01:30:45):
Am I pushing too soft? Should I keep breathing? Should
I breathe into his mouth? It's all of those things
going through your head constantly because you want that man,
you want that guy to live, You want that person
to live. And as I said earlier, unfortunately, you know,
his event was very very Yeah, it was pretty serious obviously,
and he passed away on front of me because he

(01:31:07):
was in chained to what will change stokes respiration, which
basically is as the old, the old, the old description
there as a death rattle.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
And you know, it was just horrible.

Speaker 18 (01:31:18):
But you know, I gave it a go, and everyone
should just give it a go. Don't be afraid, don't
ever be afraid. But I do heartily recommend everyone and
my company that I work for now we've all done
the first aid course and everyone should do it at
some stage of their life. Earlier, you know them later,

(01:31:39):
for your children, for your partner, and for just for
the other people.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Yeah, well, well said Dave. And look, I'm so glad
that your your partner was there hand able to do that,
because you seem like a fantastic human being and it's
just so great to to have you with us.

Speaker 18 (01:31:59):
Oh thanks very much, bro, And look at and you
know what, Yeah, I'm eternally grateful obviously to my partner
and apparently the big husky fireman who broke you know,
my ribs, you know, he was I think my partner
had got had a crush on him as well, so
I kind of nearly lost two things, you know, big
big handsome fireman.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Yeah, and the looeah to compete with some of those
Do they have a big mustache?

Speaker 18 (01:32:27):
He did, mate, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
I've seen them in the calendars.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Yeah, yeh off, just's just the suspend, you know, the
suspenders on.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
The beat of Sweet of him. Yeah, yeah, we got.

Speaker 18 (01:32:40):
Apparently apparently we was walking through the door. It was
all the slow maged to her and Sweet were coming down,
you know exactly shirtless my god.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Yeah, well you can forgive him from because he saved you,
but still stay away.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Yeah, come on, right, thanks for your call. Dave Great
cal oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties number to call.
Love to hear your experiences. If you're like Dave, needed
someone to perform CPR on you, or you were the
one doing the CPR. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties.
The number to call twenty four past three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news talk Z'd be very good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Would you know how to save someone's life if you're
in that situation? Love to hear from you on Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. So many texts coming through
about incidents that people have found themselves in. Hello Matt
and Tyler. I found an extremely comprehensive first aid manual
and a second hand book sale ninth edition First Aid
described as the UK's only fully authorized guide, written by

(01:33:41):
Saint John Ambulance. It is a fantastic read and I'd
recommend it to everybody. And this one another cardiac arrest survivor. Here,
I dropped dead in front of my six and seven
year old kids back in two thousand and seven, aged
just thirty five. Very blessed to still be here. Wellington
Free Ambulance has free A D and CPR training all
year round.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Yeah, and I've just downloaded those two apps. They're the
good Sam app, which is the good Sam respond To
app with allthough details in it and that Dave was suggesting,
and the AED Location app. So I recommend everyone does that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Yeah, I've got to get onto that right now as well.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty see numbered call.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Well there's lots around us, tyler AEDs. They're everywhere, are they?

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
They're not locked up, are they? It's not like break
glass to get your AED. I think you can just
open it up and that mate.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
We're surrounded by them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Oh ready to go? Yeah that makes me feel a
lot more comfortable.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
So if anyone's used one, love to hear from you
how because I think once you get it out and
then it's almost like constructions pop up on the screen.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Oh does it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Yep? The the instructions pop up on the screen and
it also talks to you, talks you through it, and
it also tells you if the person needs it, so
you put it on them and it tells you what
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
You know, that's clever. Chris, so well, speaking of AEDs,
you've had one save your life.

Speaker 11 (01:35:01):
Here, guys, how are you very good?

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Tell us a story.

Speaker 22 (01:35:06):
So mine's sort of the next step up from CPR.
They had a good friend with me when I started
to struggle, and he called an ambulance and they came
and my heart was running about two point fifty. They
shocked me, No game, you kidded me and actually stopped
my heart, and then they shocked me to bring me back,
took me to a hospital where I then stayed for

(01:35:27):
two weeks, and I ended up having an internal defibrillator fitted.
So I've got my own one on demand almost and
that has saved my life five times.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Wow. Does that go off on its own, detect a
situation and sort it out or do you have to
activate it? Chris?

Speaker 22 (01:35:49):
Now, I've got a couple of things wrong with my heart.
The main one is a rhythmia which pushes me into
was called me intrichul attack cardio and when that happens,
your heart needs to be shocked, and the device will.
It's a two and one. It's a peacemaker and a
defibrillator and it will. It will work to try to

(01:36:13):
sort you out. Without giving you a shock for probably
twenty or thirty seconds, and then when you actually need one,
that will give you a shock and it's not nice.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
What does that feel like?

Speaker 22 (01:36:27):
And Swiss and hanging on to an electric fence?

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
And then and then and now you go, you go, Chris,
you go.

Speaker 22 (01:36:36):
The old the old days, you know when carsaid coils
and that if you've got to whack off of a
coil or a spark plug sort of like, that may
be a bit worse.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
And and once it goes off, Chris, what is what
happens to you?

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
At that point are you are you able to operate still?
How long are you out down for when that happens.

Speaker 22 (01:36:56):
I'm well, I work backwards to that one. Currently I'm good,
have been for about a year because I'm being controlled
by medication.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Yep.

Speaker 22 (01:37:05):
There's always a fear of it going off. But you
learn within yourself when once my blood pressure drops and
I start to feel a bit queasy or you know,
just off, I know, to get sitting down somewhere on
the ground and then you're not well if you like,
for two, three, four, five minutes, and then it shocks you.

(01:37:28):
And my wife always says she can't believe it because
after the shot, within two minutes, I'm like, normal.

Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
Wow, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
It's incredible technology, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:37:39):
It is, and I wouldn't be here without it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Well, I'm so pleased you've got that nine lives off them.

Speaker 5 (01:37:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Well, I mean and sometimes, you know, you just marvel
that the age we live in for these things to
be to be possible, Chris, because you know, it's great
to have you on the planet at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Absolutely so, just as a layman, Chris. You mentioned too,
it was you know, at one point your heart was
hitting two hundred and fifty beats per minute. Because I
don't know too much about you know, cardia kari store
or how it works. So does it get to the
point where effectively your heart is about to fail?

Speaker 22 (01:38:16):
Yeah, well I haven't had a cardiak of rest or
a stroke. I've got my hat goes into ventricular attacked cardia.
So what that does is it beats, and it thinks
it's not pumping, so it just beats faster and faster
and faster, and it can't beat anymore. So you know,
I stopped wearing a smart watch because my smart watch

(01:38:37):
said that I was at about sixty, but I didn't
feel right, so I don't believe those things anymore. The
ambulance came, they checked me out. Soon she saw me.
She was pretty sure she knew what was wrong. Put
me in the ambulance. And I actually said from I
going to die today? She said, no, if not, what
we're here, that is a hell of an amber.

Speaker 18 (01:38:58):
Hope.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
I mean that's what you want to hear for those
those paramedics.

Speaker 22 (01:39:02):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely all three then that came over my life.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Yeah, great people, great heroes. Yeah, Chris, thank you so
much for bringing and sharing his story and absolutely all
the best.

Speaker 22 (01:39:14):
Yeah, jeez, Gray everyone sharing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
No, you're a good man, Chris, thank you very much, Soberen.
But yeah, important to hear right headlines with Raylene coming
up there and we're taking more of your calls on
O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twenty eight to four.

Speaker 13 (01:39:28):
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say another thirty six thousand workers have voted to strike
later this month, bringing the total number who will stop
work on October twenty third to more than ninety one
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(01:39:50):
The latest to join the day of industrial action. Foreign
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were showing support for the kiwis on board the flotilla
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(01:40:13):
dollar defense capability plan, ministers have today launched the Defense
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(01:40:34):
decently assaulting two weight staff at a Wellington restaurant in
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out more at endcent Herald Premium. Now back to matt
Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Thank you very much. Ray Lean and we have been
talking about CPR first daid those skills that you may
need to save somebody's life if you've been in that situation.
Really can you hear from you on oh, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty quite a few text coming through
nine two ninety two is well, this one says Kiday, Guys,
I have this amazing cost effective sell aed in my car.

(01:41:12):
It's portable and has saved a number of lives and
can be purchased online.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Yeah. Oh that's god. It's great to have your own one. Yeah,
absolutely incredible because you have to keep that charge though,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Yeah, imagine you do it. I'll try and search for that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
The six says great chat just on how to get
into the a ED. Some of the community have keypad
locks and you have to call one one one and
they'll give you the code. Yes, ah, right, because you
were asking that, weren't you.

Speaker 14 (01:41:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
I've never tried to open one. Yeah, but I I'd
always assume you could open them. But I mean, wouldn't
just you just get knobs and knobs grabbing them when
a drunk and blasting each other with them?

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Right, very true? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Richards.
You've got some CPR lessons. Yeah, kidy mates. So something
happened in Japan.

Speaker 12 (01:41:57):
No nothing, no, no, no, nothing happened, but it did,
but nothing's bad. So I was in Tokyo and they
had the fire service all set up in a y
a very wide pedestrian area with loads of annekins on
the floor, just just showing people how to do CPR
and you know, giving everyone a go at it really,

(01:42:19):
which I thought was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Yeah, I mean that is you got on the Japanese. Look,
they do a lot of great things the Japanese, but
having public displays where you can just practice your CPR
all for that, bring that here?

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
So are they always here or was they set up
as a sort of installation.

Speaker 12 (01:42:37):
Look, I just I just wondered. It seemed like it
was sort of just set up for something. And then
a little bit further around the corner, they had this
bit machine or set up that you could sit in
which simulated an earthquake, and then what you should be
doing in earthquake, which was like, oh, well we're dying
now in an earthquake.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Roll those out across the zeland or entertaining walk you
in on what is the current?

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
It was?

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
It was I keep ask this question.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
I think people give me the answer, but what's the
current thing you're supposed to do on this quack? Because
when I was a kid, it was like get under
the door frames and not go outside as it go
outside that simulation you come across, say anything about that, Richard,
Uh No, no it didn't.

Speaker 12 (01:43:19):
It was all in Japanese.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Yeah, going on.

Speaker 12 (01:43:23):
But to be fair that there's loads of different things.
Isn't it like, you know, get under something or whatever.
I mean, personally itself, I'd try and find an open
field and when nothing can fall on me.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Really, yes, I'm going to say that. During the during
the kai Quarta earthquake, I think the official advices drop
cover and hold, but I didn't know what the hell
was going on because it was so long. Cover and
hold what well, yeah, good point, drop under a disk,
cover your head and hold on for your life.

Speaker 12 (01:43:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Yeah, we should find out what the answer to that is.

Speaker 12 (01:43:53):
Yes, you go it to So getting into the first
eight thing, I actually served the Parachute Regiment in Northern
Ireland and the Falklands War, and fairly well trained combat
medic out there with the regiment, and that we worked
under a team called A A B, which was airways

(01:44:15):
clearing airway, be was bleeding, stop any bleeding and then
try and evacuate the person. So you know, you had
your your Saint John's people on and the medics on
and all that, and they're dead right with the bleeding
and all that. It's just apply direct pressure to it.
So in the back of the car, I've always got
a couple of roll bandages something like that, yeah, which

(01:44:36):
which are a brilliant things. You know, you can put
a pat use one of the pad neilby and wrap
it around the route that the wound apply direct pressure.
So yeah, I mean airways is a big thing. If
they haven't got a clear airway, then they're probably going
to choke.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
So sort of it.

Speaker 12 (01:44:52):
You had things out there where people that got shot
through the face, so you had like the teeth and
everything else he's scraping out and tongue being swallowed. Not
that sort of stuffy with these people thuming in about
these songs. I thought it's quite funny where someone said,
like it's it's a good idea, do it to stay
in live, which is everyone gets tall and then I
don't think the good suggestion was another one bites the dust.

Speaker 22 (01:45:15):
Yeah, I'm not very encouraging.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Yeah in terms of in terms of messages, it's the
right feet.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Oh it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Yeah, you definitely don't want another.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
One to Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:45:29):
If you're seeing it in your head, you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Yeah, maybe staying in life is a bit of one.
Just for the positive records, so positive information. Hey, just
before we let you go, Richard, So you see you're
on the Falkland Islands. You must have been operating near
the Harrier jump Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
It's god.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
I love the Harrier jump jets.

Speaker 12 (01:45:46):
They didn't land or anything like that where we were,
but we I was with a second Battalion of the
Parachute Regiment, so we had a big batlet goose green
and the biggest problem we had lack of ammunition and
everything else. But our harriers were based at sea, on
the aircraft carriers. Yeah, and the weather was so bad

(01:46:07):
that they couldn't take off and support us.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Yeah right, well, no, no, no, no, I do mate.

Speaker 12 (01:46:13):
I'll tell you what when when you those boys in action,
hats off to them, absolutely amazing, you know, actually watching
a live firefight going off. But what happened in the
Argentina is that they could take off because they were
land based, so Greuse Stream just near the settlement for
a settlement where the Pakaris dropped the maypalm hon Us
and that didn't cause too much of a problem, thank god.

(01:46:36):
But towards the evening the harriers came in and it
was more of a bit of a firepowered demonstration than
anything because we've still got all these hostages being held
in Goose Green and that was part of my job
was to try and get to the hostage release. But
these war birds came over here, mate, and they were

(01:46:56):
like almost touching the ground and the wings were just
like a big eagle wings swooping down over here, and
that was pretty amazing, pretty amazing to see. Yeah, And
also like one of the dog fights was watching you know,
you've seen it in the old movies and all that,
where they hit the reverse for us and all the aircraft.

(01:47:17):
The other one shoots fire where we actually watched one
of the pilots doing that, and it's just like those boys, mate,
they were really good. And luckily they were actually armed
with the accept missile, which was a new missile that
was out I'll fire and forget, So that was sorry.
The sidewinder missile. Yeah, which they'd armby harriers with which

(01:47:39):
have never been tested before in a in a war situation.
But you know, we spoke the pilots afterwards get togethers,
and they were pretty amazing at this dismissile type thing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for it. You've lived
an incredibly interesting life.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
Yeah, you've seen some stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Ben boring over the harereat jumps, so I love those.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
I was just watching a video of a very compressive machines, right,
and it's seventeen to four beck very shortly, Oh, one
hundred and eighteen addies and number to call the big stories.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
The big issues, to the big trends and everything in between.
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons US Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
They'd be very good afternoon, having a great discussion about
first aid training CPR. Have you ever been in a
situation where you've needed to utilize it or someone performed
CPR or on you? So many calls and texts coming through.
Nine two ninety two is the text number, but oh,
eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the number of call.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
Glenn, welcome to the show. You want to talk about
cardiac arrests?

Speaker 23 (01:48:35):
Yo, yeah, Matt Tyler. In August twenty nineteen, I had
a cardiac arrest and I was stone cold, mother of dead,
and some do. I never knew this guy, and I
think his name was Paul. He must have been a
builder or something. It all depends where you have a
cardia charrest, have you have it away from it? No

(01:48:55):
one that knows what they're doing, you're dead anyway. This guy,
he must have just walked straight out of with a
fresher course from Saint John's or something we've done the
first day, because I can't remember that. He immediately jumped
on me and jumped on the start smashing away on
my chest and broke a couple of roobs. To be fear,
but I think that's what they're supposed to do. And

(01:49:18):
he kept on pumping away there for twenty minutes before
the handbags got there, and apparently they gave me six
jump starts before that they got a pulse and obviously
you know a bit more key then. But this other dude, lucky,
he knew what he was doing. So I'd recommend anybody
learned how to do that. It could be a life
to be saved. I was one of the lucky ones.

(01:49:40):
Not many of them. Not many of us make it.
And that was years ago, August twenty nineteen, and all
they did well. I was in a coma for four
days in hospital. They called up with me kids and said,
you you to come and see you old man for
the last time, that he ain't making it out of here,
not standing up anyway. And then yeah, I wake up

(01:50:03):
with tubes and lights flashing and wires looked up, and
they cart me off there. And they must had a
few spear not defibulated. What do you pacemakers, They must
had a few spare ones left over for that budget
for that year. And so they cut me open and

(01:50:24):
put one of them in. Apparently it had there was
supposed to have charge for five years, which is up now.
But I do go back. I've got to go back
actually pretty soon on August, on September the twentieth. I'llkay
over the twentieth to get their test that they just
I don't know what they do. They do a few
tests on them, but they reckon in Christ you so,

(01:50:47):
I got some pretty good heart surgeons from world renowned.
They reckon that by the time this one here runs
out a battery that you'll be able to get another
one at charges from the outside like you do with
the phone here. You can put them on a thing,
but at the moment it's never gone off. I did
ask the technician what it feels like if I go off,

(01:51:08):
and well, me's the standing behind a horse and it
kicks you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
With both f Yeah, I can picture that. I can
get that. That's fantastic, and then makes the point perfectly
he was lucky that there was someone there that was
schooled up by the Saint Shane John's Waders so they
could help him. So yeah, yeah, I think being able
to do the basics to save your fellow citizen is
the absolute basics we can do. Yeah, so currently I can't.

(01:51:35):
So I'm going to make sure I scool up on that,
and I've downloaded the Good Samaritan app, the Good sam
at and the aed Locator app and good on Saint
John's because it's a sh October and they're giving free
courses on CPR at the moment, so let's all get boned.

Speaker 5 (01:51:50):
Up on it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Yeah, what a great discussion. If we're going to go
to that website that is three the number three steps
for Life dot Saint John dot org dot n z.
It fantastic and what.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
A bunch of fantastic, humbling conversations we've had in the
last hour.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
That was also so good. Right, every week we pick
a caller of the week, and this week we were
so inundated with such great callers, genuinely that we couldn't
picture just one. So this week we've got two. The
first was during our discussion on rats, and this was
after the Deputy Mirror of Paris called for an armistice
between man and rat and we had a call from
young Casey. She rang up to share how things went

(01:52:24):
a little bit wrong when it came to their pet rats.

Speaker 21 (01:52:27):
We've had pitt rat my whole life, pretty much, I
may seem.

Speaker 7 (01:52:30):
We rested these two white, gorgeous rats.

Speaker 14 (01:52:33):
They were so sweet.

Speaker 17 (01:52:34):
One of them actually got out and it bread was
a wild rat around our house.

Speaker 8 (01:52:40):
We had twenty baby rats.

Speaker 14 (01:52:42):
Just running around. We don't know, we're our pit one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
We so it didn't even look after it was just
like an absent father just so does wild oats, and
left twenty a rat infestation in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Absent father rat. I think there was nicely put. Then
we had a great chat on whether people are still
enjoying installing rather fireplaces and Troy from Ashburny is good man.
He called in they had just installed a fireplace and
him and his wife were really really enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:09):
Man.

Speaker 12 (01:53:10):
The wife put one in a couple of months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
And do you find yourself, you and your mess this
steering into the fire.

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
We do.

Speaker 11 (01:53:17):
We've had a few nights we're falling asleep on the couch.
Sometimes we'll even have, like have a date night in
front of a date night in front of the couch.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
It's the things get amorous, Troy, if you don't mind
me asking, it's a pretty romantic situation you're describing there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Heavily, and well, well you know, we'll we'll take the
clothes off and sit in front of the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Lovely, yea beautiful the.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Joys of fire place A love it fantastic creat calls
this week right, stay right here, will be back very shortly.
It is eight minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons
used talks.

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
All right, great show, great week, go Liam and Singapore
off the weekend weekend, and if you're running the Devonport
Half Marathon on Sunday, lookout for me on the run.
I might need CPR go well mate, yeah, good on you,
Thank you. Until Monday afternoon, give.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
A taste of kew from us A yes now, as
we've been celebrating all day to day. Taylor's was twelfth
studio album, The Life of a Showgirl. It is dropping
in about one hour's time five pm. That gets released,
so a lot of excitement around New Zealand in the
office and internationally as well. So we've been playing Taylor
all afternoon. And this song the eighth era from Swift

(01:54:39):
was Folklore. It was written and recorded during the early
stages of the COVID nineteen pandemic in twenty twenty. This
was a sister album to Evermore, which was released later
the same year. She explored new genres and new collaborators
through the albums, leaning into India as you can hear
so taking us to the news is this song from
her album Folklore.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
August DAYA beautiful love leave alway Yeah you kay, I'll you.

Speaker 13 (01:55:31):
It sounds like.

Speaker 9 (01:55:35):
You don't, but it's so.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
It don't you.

Speaker 13 (01:55:41):
Swell oh.

Speaker 17 (01:55:49):
Oh for more?

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
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