Full Show Podcast: 04 September 2025

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 4th of September, events rules get a makeover - about time, says promoter Brent Eccles.  

And then, when 2 lanes become one, who gives way - along with other grey areas of driving. 

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello, Great New Zealander, and welcome to Matt and Tyler
Full Show Podcast number one nine eight for Thursday, the
fourth of September. Once again we went ounce the topic
and didn't get to it. The topic. We were going
to talk about things in life that things girl want
to get bad. No, things in life that you learned
that you wish you'd learn younger because they made your

(00:38):
life so much better. I've worded that poorly, but that
was kind of the topic. We didn't get to it
do it because we went too hard on festival, so
many people ring about how hard it us to do festival.
Some really interesting stories there about the complexities and the
insanity of council and police regulations, anti fun police are
and trying to put something on and then boy oh boy,
all that parking or that driving chat. So many gray

(01:00):
areas on the road non stop on the phone line,
so many gray areas on the bloody roads. Yep, and
some good numpty chat as well, so you look out
for that. Yeah, that's right. Tyler has some very soft
turns of phrase link and poop.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:27):
Stories, the leg issues, the big trends and everything in between.
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news Talk said.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
The good day to you. Welcome into Thursday show. It
is seven pass one, so good to have you with
us as always, good man.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Can it Tyler get everyone, thanks so much for tuning
in to the show. We've cobbled together and excellent a
few hours of talkback for you. Now. The show at
the moment is known as Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons,
but I want to put it to the listenership on
nine two nine two that we changed the name of
the show to Matt Heath and Tyler Swift Afternoons because,
as I've say to you before, Tyler, some gentlemen came

(02:06):
up to me and said, what's with all Tyler Swifty
topics on the show In the last two weeks You've
been too You had the engagement ring yesterday that were exciting.
That was a Tyler Swift topic and on the day
of the engagement you had that. Do we have too
much Taylor Swift and the media?

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, nine two nine two. It does roll off
the tongue, doesn't it. Met Heath and Taylor Swift too,
if you're into that.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
And Taylor Swift afternoons.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I think there could be
a goal.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We'll send that to the bosses. Well, I'll tell you
up the votes and if you know more in favorite
than not, then we'll change the name across all the branding. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
All I can say, mate, though, is thank you very
much for taking the heat for my love of Taylor Swift.
It's it's the least you could do to be to
be frank.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, you're semi anonymous. Is anonymous as a purely radio guy,
aren't you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I am, which works well for me.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Right, just before we get into today's show, So Father's Day,
it's only three days away, and we know there'll be
a lot of people listening at the moment, and you've
left it to the last minutes. It don't worry, Matt
has got you sorted. We've got a few downloads of
his number one best selling audiobook, A Life Less Punishing
Thirteen Reasons to Love the Life You've Got to give Away,
read by the man himself. He put a lot of

(03:20):
hours into that and your dad will be absolutely chuffed
if you win a copy of this. So it's currently
available everywhere you get your audio books, Apple, Spotify, Google Play, Audible,
all of them. But we will give you a chance
after two pm and three pm today and tomorrow. Just
stay tuned and we'll tell you how to get in
that draw.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, all right, you know I've given it to my
father before. Yeah, lucky man. Did he pay for it?
He didn't like it. He didn't like it. No, it did, actually,
and he paid money for it. He paid money for
the for the PA they know, the audiobook version, but
not the paper there.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Fair enough to yeah, yeah, yeah, no nepotism. Right after
three o'clock, This is going to be an interesting discussion.
What improved your quality of life so much that you'd
wish you'd done it sooner?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah? This is blown up on the internet as a question.
It's everywhere across social media and there's a lot of
different answers out there. But you know, it's kind of
a version of you know, what would I do now
if I was when I was younger? You know that
song yeah love me song?

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah. So it's kind of that that because you know,
you get a bit older, you get into your thirties,
your forties, and your fifties and your sixties and seventies,
and you look back and go, gosh, if I'd known
that when I was twenty five, my life would have
been a lot easier. If I'd known that when I
was eighteen, my life would have been a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeap, that is going to be a great chet After
three o'clock.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
After two o'clock, we want to talk about gray areas
of law when it comes to driving. This is after
an article and many people have come across this recently.
So you're driving up a suburban street and the road narrows.
You got cars parked on either side, You're going in
one direction, you see someone coming in the other direction,
and you hit that part.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Of the road at the same time. Who gives way?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, And there's a lot of gray areas like that. Look,
there's a lot of people that don't know the road code.
At all across the board. You see that every day.
That's me. But there's also some gray areas. You know,
there's so many variables out on the road, this thing,
some things that aren't set in stone. Yeah, looking forward
to it.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean someone text and before about an obscure law
when it comes to pedestrian crossings that I had no
idea about.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, before pedestrian crossing on the road, there is a
big white diamond. If an approaching car is already in
between that diamond and the crossing, then the pedestrian should
give way to the car. I mean, as a driver,
you don't want to enforce that one by plowing through
people crossing.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Actually, look I was already between the diamond and the crossing,
so I'm not going to break here.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Okay, yeah, how well would that go in court? But
that is after two o'clock and just before we get
to the topic right now. So a couple of ideas
for the new name for the show, Matt Heath and
Shifty Swifty.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You're happy with Shifty Swifty.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I'll take it the Matt Damon and the Taylor Swift Show.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think what they mean is it Mer Booeman and
the Taylor Swift show from the Team America situation. That's
not a bit. Yeah, we all on board, but we're
not looking to change my name in it. We just
sort of of trying to look at acknowledging your love
of Taylor Swift by calling it the Tyler Swift and
Matt each.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Everything will be considered right on to the discussion. Now,
this will be a good one. The government is promising
to change or make some significant significant changes rather to
special licensing rules to make it easier for organizers to
run events. So it builds on last week's alcohol law
changes that made it simpler for ministers to declare one
off special trading hours for pubs and clubs who screen

(06:35):
major sport and cultural events. So the new changes effectively
simplify what was a very complex process around special licensing
applications to ensure consistent decision making throughout the country.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So you're happy with these measures, you think it should
go further. I personally believe that councils and government should,
instead of making it difficult for events to go head
should be absolutely rolling out the red, blue, and green
and whatever cover carpet to make sure that these things happen.
Because they're so good for society, they're so good for
the community, and they're so good for local economies. So

(07:08):
if your rules are so outside of what's logical to
most kiwis and are so convoluted and the wheel has
to be invented every time someone tries to put on
an event then and events get shut down because of that,
then you are not doing your job. You're doing the
exact reverse of your job. And look, as I've said
at number of times that it feels like the people

(07:30):
that make these rules are anti anti everyday people and
what they want to do anti fun. Yeah, anti fun,
anti fun. So oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've tried to set up an event and you've
either succeeded or failed, what were the roadblocks that you
came up against? We know the god awful road management
plans obviously going through the special licensing committees. Does the

(07:52):
council and the government just need to get out of
the way. Yeah, And look what insane conditions have you
seen at events that have been imposed on events? Crazy
setups that you've seen because we've all been to things
and go, this is just making it so much more
difficult for us to have a good time. Yeah, and
often the event managers, you know, and the people putting

(08:13):
on the event get blamed for this and it turns
out it's just you know, multi council cross insanity, Yeah,
with people just making up rules because they enjoy the
feeling of imposing power on other people.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Get an Oh, hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call coming up. We're going to have a chat
with Brent Eckles, one of our most well known and
successful event promoters. He is coming up very shortly, but
taking your calls on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
It is fourteen past one. Quite like the suggestion of
famous are the Beavis and but Ed show. How'll you
work with that?

Speaker 8 (08:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
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Speaker 6 (08:56):
That'd be.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Very good afternoon to you. So the government is promising
big changes to special licensing rules to make it easier
for organizers to run the events. If you're affected by this,
love to hear from you or what row blocks did
you face when trying to run an event? But one
of our most successful and well known promoters and Australasia
is Brent Equals and Brent is on the line.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Now very good.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Afternoon, Well, good afternoon to you.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Good mate. Now, have you in the past had to
give up on gigs and events because of the licensing
red tape?

Speaker 9 (09:30):
Well, I don't know about give up, but it can
make it very very tricky and it can be you know,
disappointing for the punters when they when they can't do
what you want to do and have a act like
act like they wouldn't a normal life and be able
to get a drink or a couple of drinks which
will shout for their mates, and it makes it difficult.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
So we like to have gigs that run smoothly.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
Most of us are very responsible, so we just feel
that every time we have.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
To go to a special license there should.

Speaker 9 (09:59):
Be some you know, some easy and easier way through,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
So do you like what you've seen from these changes?
What but to good? And do they go far enough?

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Well?

Speaker 9 (10:11):
The thing is that you know the Associate myst of
Justice and Nicole McKee is she's a good listener and
she's an advocate of us, so she's she has started
this process of undoing the red tape, which is kind
of a really good step in the process that she's
listening and she agrees with us that it's just crazy.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
So this is the first step.

Speaker 9 (10:31):
It's not the ultimate answer, but it's the first step,
and it's we're going to get into a good position.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I can just feel it.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So how can can you see how it would if
the nationally applied framework which they're suggesting, so you don't
have to reinvent the wheel every time, How would that
change the way you go about managing events?

Speaker 9 (10:48):
Well, maybe it's because it's based on We'll say, for me,
for example, if equals Entertainment is running an event, we
have a reputation that is reflected in the process. So
it's you know, if we've been good at what we
do and we say we we say that we're going
to do something and actually do it, then we have
an easier road through then perhaps someone who's doing it
for the first time. And I think that's kind of

(11:09):
the basis of what this is all about. And it's
also recognizing that kiwis like to drink.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Yeah, and that's a fact.

Speaker 9 (11:16):
I mean, alcohol is as in our community. So you
start making rules and where do you end up. You
end up with prohibition and that's not going to work.
I mean, trying to stop people drinking is not going
to work. And it seems that there are people in
responsible positions who just are trying to make that happen
and it's just not going to fly.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, So that have you thought because I've said this
and I want to if I'm over eggining egging it,
But it seems that a lot of these rules are
made by insane activists who are pushing an agenda that's
outside what most kiwis would think. They the way they
want their events to be run, and which begs the
sort of question, who's making the national rules are going

(11:58):
to be the same people that make the national rules
as have made these insane, insane rules.

Speaker 9 (12:04):
Well, I think it's sort of simple. The try agency
has been Alcohol Harmed Police and Health. There are people
in those organizations. I respect what they do, but they
are just don't get it, don't understand events and consider
events that's dangerous. So they try to do everything they
can to make it difficult and hard to run, and

(12:24):
that's really unfair. I think the idea is that's going
to they're going to move away from that.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yeah, we're just yeah, sorry, god.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well I was just going to say so so dicky
rules like we've seen the likes of Electric Care, for example,
they kicked off on this one about one drink minimum rules.
When you're at a first of all, it's a day
long thing. You're there to enjoy yourself and have maximum
sorry maximum a one drink per person. Is that the
sort of dicky rules that hopefully will be affected by
some of these these changes.

Speaker 9 (12:53):
Well, yes it will be because if you have me
speak on this before, there are so many security and
alcohol prevention people at those gigs more than anywhere. Why
would you Why would you constrain a gig like that?
What if I said to you, guys, can I buy
you a drink? You said, yeah, bread, Oh should I
can't only buy one? So I'll go back three times?

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Should I? What is going on here? It's just really
it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I mean, and I've said this to year before when
we've interview in the past, and yet those people on
the way home can go to a bottle store and
buy fifteen bottles of one, one, two fives of gin.
You know, of course they can and when they're not,
you know, regulated by security in a safe environment. Well,
this make a real difference for medium and large festivals

(13:37):
because can you can you see yourself or people in
the industry doing more, say four hundred to one, nine
hundred and ninety nine person gigs, because that's whore you
have to go to the major planning.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
Yes, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
You don't have to go to all the major event
planning when you go up there less than two thousand. Well,
you still have to be responsible. You can't just go
you go helpful leather. But you know, it just means
it won't be as hard. And if it's very sensible,
because it means the smaller wineries or the smaller outdoor gigs,
the boot seat things don't have to go because you
can't it's cost way too much money. So that's very sensible.

(14:09):
It's a smart move. I think it's all going in
the right direction.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh that's good. Do you think it's going in the
right direction? But do you think it goes far enough?

Speaker 9 (14:17):
Well, it's very if you read the professionalase, it's very
open ended. Yeah, So we just need to keep we
need to keep going. And one of the things they say,
is is that you know, simple, stable and practical rules. Well,
I agree that's practical, simple, like kwis what.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, exactly. And Preen Nichols, you know we've we've been
in business together in the past and and you're one
of the best in the business. And I know you're
at the top of this game, so I know you
love events. But from a societal level, how valuable for
the community are concerts gags? Events? And what do we
lose out when they become too hard to put on?

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (14:53):
I think for the psyching of the of the community,
they're really good. For the psyche of the constituents that
you know that they're voting in the government, they're also
very very good. They take you to a place that
you know you can forget your woes and have a
good time with your mates and watch a great show
and whatever level you want to watch it on. But
I think it's judging by the amount of tickets that
we sell, people want to go to concerts. There's no

(15:16):
doubt about it. And I think moving on to something
else that this major events find they're talking about long
over d but boys a huge buzz in the industry
about it.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Right now, come alive.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, Brent, fantastic to chat to you as always,
and it sounds like good news and a step in
the right direction to really appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Coming on.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Next time I see you, I buy you a drink.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'll buy you four.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Now we're talking. Go well mate.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
That is Brent equals one of our most well known
and successful promoters. And Australasia New Zealander. Yeah, great New Zealand,
both in New Zealand and Australia. So step in the
right direction. But what do you say, oh one hundred
and eighty ten eighty, if you've tried to put on
an event, any sort of event, what with the roadblocks
you've faced and what was some of the ridiculous rules
that were imposed on you?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Or are you terrified of your fellow New Zealander and
you think that they need to be clamped down on
and controlled with an event and that the transport management
should get harsher and harsher, more road cones and less
ability to buy drinks when you're watching a band.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
If that's you, by all means, come on through. It
is twenty four past one leading question.

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Speaker 4 (17:12):
Twenty seven past one. So the government has promised to
make some big changes to set up and make it
easier to set up at all events. Rather for organizers,
if you're in the game, what roadblocks have you come
up against?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty Yeah, and buying
in the game. It might just be going along to
an event or a concert at gig or whatever and
just notice what seemed to be illogical and overly punitive
rules around drinking, entry management, traffic management, the whole thing.
Because I think we've all seen that kind of stuff
and the event organizers take take the heat for that.

(17:46):
This Stexas says, as Brent still playing the drums, we
just talked to Brent Eckles before Brent Eckles from Eckles
Manager Entertainment, Great New Zealander and of course we didn't mention,
but he was a drummer for Space Waltz, Yes Out
on the Streid, Great song Citizen Band and of course
the Angels Australian rock is the Angels talented man. I'm

(18:07):
not sure if Instill playing the drums very good drummer,
but a son, Matt Ecles incredible drummer, one of the
best drummers I've ever seen in my life, and he's
had a very successful drumming career around the world. And
he is playing drums for Splittings in that reunion that's
happening down.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
There, having fantastic talented, talented me The Skins are in
that family.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call get a Steve.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Hell Yeah.

Speaker 11 (18:30):
I just want to mention the fact of the Sevens
used to be one of the Sevens that used to.

Speaker 12 (18:34):
Be really, really good, and I'm not sure who destroyed it,
but between the council and the police.

Speaker 13 (18:40):
They had enough epiphany that said that was there was too.

Speaker 12 (18:43):
Much drinking and all that sort of carry on, and
it was the best party I've ever been to and
I'm pretty sure there'll be a thousands of other people
who agree with me.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I'm one of them.

Speaker 13 (18:53):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 12 (18:53):
It was awesome and then all of a sudden the
police said, you know, we've all been down to one
drink per of whatever. It was painful, and they just
slowly but surely they.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
Brought us out of plet us out of a city.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
The other thing will be they had.

Speaker 12 (19:05):
Fifty arrests over a three day period of total of
seventy five thousand roughly. Yeah, the statistic's going to really help.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
What it is is the sort of arrogance that the
audience that's turning up to these things isn't the audience
you want. I think I've seen that with cricket in
New Zealand. They decided that groups of young men going
along to the cricket and having a drink wasn't the
audience they wanted. They wanted, they wanted to change that.
They wanted families wanted all this. And if you've got
an audience, you've got to be careful because it's very

(19:35):
hard to get an audience if you've got a crowd
of people that want to go. And that was a
lot of young people wanted to go to the Sevens
and have a good time and dress up and have
a party, and Wellington would absolutely buzz over that weekend.
But they were like, no, these aren't the people that
we want to go. We want to change this up,
we want we don't like this. It seems too crazy,
it seems too anarchistic. And then they shut it down.

(19:57):
And then they shut it down, the rules down, and
then the Sevens is gone and we'll never get it back,
and Wellington is a lesser place for it because once
a year the city used to just light up. I
used to go down there every.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Year, one of the best events in the year.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, you'd go around the city everywhere, down by the water,
on that punishing bridge, everywhere you went, Yeah, on the concourse.
It was such a vible weekend. And gone. They destroyed it.
They absolutely destroyed it. And I wonder if any of
them if ever looked in the mirror and gone, well,
good on us, we ruined that and thing. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
I'm renting.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, Steve, I think you'd chare you know a lot
of what Matt said in that rent?

Speaker 13 (20:38):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah all right, yr, Yeah, but you're being y yeah,
because it is when they and we all remember it,
and they said we want to make it a family atmosphere,
and of.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Course everybody who was there for the party and drunk
people spend a lot of money, all right, they were
spending so much cash and Wellington bars and then they
spend the whole week in their hotels, they go and
buy stuff and retail shops and then like that, sorry,
we don't want to be a part of this idea
that we can't have a few drinks.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
So then it was dead. Yeah, unreal. Yeah, well, I
mean and you think of all the events that just
haven't happened. Yeah, because people in advance of it went well,
the rules that they put on. The sevens are going
to put on stuff. There's great things that could have
had none of the cities ann and Wellington that have
never happened.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call if you've recently tried to set up an event.
What sort of roadblocks did you come up against? And
are you hoping the council and government will get out
of the way a little bit with these.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
New changes it.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
They really need now you go, I was just going
to say it is twenty eight to two, plenty of
Texas coming through A nine two ninety two. We'll get
to a few of those shortly headlines with Susie coming up.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Jus talks it'd be headlines.

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Speaker 3 (23:12):
Thank you very much, Susie.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
So.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
The government is promising changes to rules to make it
easier for organizers to run events, Associate Justice Minister Nicole mckeeth.
She says that feedback is open. They do want to
hear from organizers about what needs to change to make
it easier to run these events, festivals and other So
keen to hear from you, Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty what needs to change?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah? And what crazy stuff have you seen at events
that you went that's stupid? Or do you think it
should be cracked down on more and you're happy or
you're happy with the way it is. Afternoon Cricket is
a good example, says the texture of how the fun
police have killed the atmosphere. We took our kids to
a cricket game in Alexandra. We have three young boys
and thought we would take a can of lemonade and

(23:53):
for them. On the gate. We were searched and told
we cannot take cans in. Then you go on and
it costs you a kidney to buy anything there. So
why by the going some events have made rules that
price themselves out of the market. Have a great day, Cam,
Thank you for your text. This Texas says we canceled
a twelve hundred patron gig on Wahiki Island due for
the long weekend in February. The council wanted us to

(24:16):
pay them twenty thousand for a migratory Oh god, a
migratory bird report. Cheap because our gig went from dusk
at nine till eleven pm, finishing eleven pm. How weak
do you think birds are?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
They'll stay away? I mean birds are okay, they'll fly
somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Humans first, well, said Matt. I honestly couldn't put it
better myself. SEVENS was shut down after that, damn John
Campbell program. Yeah, I wonder if John Campbell's ever looked
in the mirror. You know, his campaign against the Sevens
and just his team cutting together the worst things they
could to make it look terrible. And you know, sometimes,
because I know he's a sports fan, I wonder if
he if at just in moments of reflection go I

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was a big part of getting the sevens shut down.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I hope he did.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Pete, welcome to the show.

Speaker 15 (25:01):
How are you going atil?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Very good? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 15 (25:05):
No, I reckone. They ruined the seamon is such a
good event and never thought was on my bucket list.
They took me on away from it because I didn't
get there there on time. But you know, all these
health and safety world to have a ruin, I've gone
over come from here in New Plymouth. Here we had
the bulge there. You think that you've got old games

(25:25):
that you said, the Mary Ward a very good job.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
So you go around.

Speaker 15 (25:30):
They used to walk around the walking talkies. They had
communications with the police or the government's trying to tell
us they're trying to cut down money on police. Been
on Tuesday, and if you want your cities to do well,
you should be encouraging and things. Who said they come
to your studies, hotels, everybody that does very well out

(25:51):
of these events, like they said they killed them all
you guys said before they ruined it whither there's gonna
be a few people steering on the seat or whatever,
the streets or whatever. But that's what the police was
to do. There's not many air grows, so what they
most people when they gave a constant I've seen them
myself in the mental a lot of concerts and stuff,
both drunken people. They are happy they're not there, of course,
egg row. No, the people are there, of course, that's all.

(26:16):
That's the points of some sub place, non duty. But
they have a petty wagon park at the hill, like
hearing the balls where they might be. But the old
one gets drunked, is touck them on the petty wagon.
Tuck him on the selves one night and so oh
you've you've good to see you. You've changed your ways
of think and let them go. That's all you have
to do, and just care it pushed. These events are

(26:36):
very good for your promises.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent. We
want to we want to roll out the red carpet
for for for these events. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Nine two is the text number plenty coming through like
this one. Getay boys, what this will mean, the is
that people just smuggle their own booze and drugs into
these festivals. The idea of a one drink maximum is
such a punishing rule. It's bad for the festival organizers.
It's bad for us as punters. The only and I

(27:08):
still go to these festivals is to support those guys.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
But it is a terrible, terrible rule. This Texas makes
an interesting point, and I think this has been raised
quite a lot, but the severe alcohol rules just makes
the kids smuggle drugs or other things into festivals as
it's too hard to get a drink in them. Yeah,
I mean that's true. And you know that has been
the outcome of the increased pressure on alcohol sales and

(27:36):
shutting them down at events. Is it's just put pushed
kids to illegal substances.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, And look, in my opinion, they can be a
lot more dangerous because you know, they haven't been put
together in a factory, they haven't been regulated, they haven't
they can be anything to the point now where at
festivals there's stations to check people's drugs. Meanwhile, they could
just have a drink.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Exactly, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call what needs to change when it comes to
setting up a festival, and if you've been to one recently,
what stupid rules.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Do you see that absolutely needs some government attention. The
Texas says they really need to triple the amount of
road cones. Imagine how safe having three billion road cones
and one stretch of road would be?

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Very a fresh take on took back.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons have your say
on eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks that'd be so.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
The government is promising changes to make it easier for
organizers to run festivals and events. What stupid rules have
you come across if you have attended one of these
eventsal festivals? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty sues,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (28:44):
Hi boys. I thought you might remember. In January twenty
twenty three, UB forty had a concert in Nelson and
I think Dragon went as well, and the organizers had
applied for the wrong license, which meant because they were
selling alcohol, they decided, like I'm sure it was the

(29:06):
day before or on the day that they weren't going
to let people in under sixteen years.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Of age that's right.

Speaker 16 (29:12):
Now they went through and refunded those ones. But I mean,
that's just there was so ridiculous, and somebody from the
council or the police would have signed off on that
application anyway. You think they would have said to them,
I'm of them as a major event. You think they
would have said to them, hey, guys, are you sure

(29:34):
this is the right? Yeah, you know what I'm seeing?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
And it's so silly because at a if you go
to see the all blacks, right, so on Saturday, there'll
be all blacks at any park and adults will be
able to drink and kids will be there and there
won't be a single problem. So there's a precedent that's
just so clear and obvious. So ever who said that
couldn't go ahead. And the same thing happened to Lane
Way in Auckland. So they initially said yes, and the

(30:00):
year before they'd allowed sixteen to eighteen year olds in there,
and just before the festival they said no, sixteen to
sixteen and seventeen year olds will not be allowed in here.
They we're never going to be allowed to drink in there,
but they won't be allowed in here at all. And
then we'll monitor to see how it goes. Quite apart
from the fact the Lane Wave Festival the year before
there had been no problems and it had been that way,

(30:21):
so it was just it was a view to make
it more difficult. And I believe it comes from anti
alcohol activists who have a way of looking to view
the world that's different from the rest of us. Most
of us New Zealanders suits the other years.

Speaker 16 (30:36):
And I agree you've just reminded me. I went to
the Abs at Eden Park with a big group of
people and we went there to get a drink, you know,
after halftime or whatever it was, and they said, oh, sorry,
we have to shut the bar an hour before the
end of the venue as the events that ride, and

(30:57):
so we couldn't get a drink.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I mean it's over.

Speaker 16 (31:01):
I know they do that at the cricket as well.
I mean this, I don't get that. We're all adults.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah, and you think some common sense just looking at
that story you mentioned there with the UB forty concert
in Nelson, so it was two hours before the festival
was to go ahead. If you're part of that, and
it's these guys have just got no idea about what's
going on. In the real world to look at that,
and yes it was an oversight by the organizers, but
to just say, hey, look, no problem to UB forty

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concerts in Rutherford Park.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's during the dates. It is a family event. Every
sporting event that ever happens allowed adults and children in there,
and the adults have been out to drink, so this
is not out of the ordinary. Let's just go ahead
with that, wouldn't it be nice? Yeah? Yeah, all right,
you go, well, thank you very much, Thank you see later.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you've recently been to a festival and.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Seen some stupid rules. Love to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
It seems a lot as based around alcohol, because it
does seem to be this anti alcohol brigade in the background.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
This is the one that really annoys me, and it's
it's treating adults like babies. So because some people have
done some bad stuff somewhere on some area in town,
the people that are going along to an event which
they've paid money to and their inside security and they're
being served to get crazy rules like this one here.
Classic example is the summer concert full of US forty

(32:24):
to six year olds and they crack open your cans
so they start going flat from the get go. Bloody, ridiculous.
The beers are expensive enough. I'm not trying to take
any home. Cheers, guys, Zane spot On treated like an
absolute kid to day intrusted, infantilization, infantilization of society where
you treat everyone like a baby. And the general rule

(32:46):
from counsels and government is you, guys are not capable
of making good decisions. You're not capable of looking after yourself.
As this Texas says the event chat as a quintessential
example of the tail wagging the dog. We have regulated
for the few, not the majority who go and have
a responsible good time.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, so feedback is open. What changes would you like
the government to implement when it comes to setting up
events and making it easier to run festivals? Give us
a call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties number to
call twelve to two.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Matd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
It's Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
News Talk ZB News Talk z B and we are
talking about stupid rules at events. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call if you've come
across those lovedy hear from a.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, it looks like they might be help at hand
with these new regulations coming through from Associate Justice Minister
Nicole McKee. All Right, New Zealand is the land of no,
says this Texter. I call it the New Zealand complex.
Someone may get hurt, so we have to hide it
away at all costs so nobody gets hit. It's another
example dogs. We often hide them behind high walls. Then
they aren't socialized and they don't know how to behave

(33:53):
people around people overseas, they go into restaurants. Yeah, it's
the infantalization I call it of the nation.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, New Kim, how are you?

Speaker 17 (34:03):
Oh good? Thank you good? Now the s we're for
one of the Puncture, one of the Sevens games down
there about I don't know, five or six years ago.
And so before they closed it, uh but I'll say
you is likely said they started to trick us like kids.
And there was I reckon one of the just the
best festival in the world, a crick and sevens, you know,

(34:27):
and it was such a great day. It was no
handsholds yet there handful idiot. But apart from that, that
was one of the greatest semons in the world. I
don't reckon they still could be.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, and that was that was part of the fun though, right.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
You knew that people went there for a bit of
a party and they drunk, you know, a fear whack.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
But that was part of it.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
And you know, this whole idea that they started to
get a bit precious that there's a few rest when
you've got thirty thousand people coming to Wellington Stadium and
spending all that money in the city. I mean, that's
part and pastor of having a vibrant, energetic festivals.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
People are going to have a good time and have drinks.

Speaker 16 (35:04):
That's right.

Speaker 17 (35:04):
That was that was our wish had away. We had
a rampall, so a feen of us went down from
Awkwards and the whole region. A lot of great threekirs
you know, so coat, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yep, good on you new Kim, And sadly, I don't
know if we're getting the sevens back ever.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well This Texas says the death of the Sevens was
the first puncture in the absolute deflation of Wellington. As
a side note, after a long day of gathering a
large head of steam, a bunch of us jumped off
the punishing bridge into the lagoon, dried off, carried on
into towns and days. Yeah, Nikko, it's.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Such a great event, and so said what happened to it?
But yeah, good fun.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Well we've shall we keep this going because we've got
we've got a lot of calls to get through one
hundred and eighty ten eighty. We've also got a bunch
of texts coming through. So should we keep us going
to talk till till two thirty?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yep, absolutely, we've got full boards at the moment. If
you can't get through, give us a buzz i.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Eight.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
If you are in the events festival industry love to
hear from you, what roadblocks have you come up against
and if you've recently been to a festival, what were
the stupid rules that you faced? Feedback is open. The
government are looking to make changes, so they keen to
hear from you, and we are too. Nineteen nine two
is the text.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Number afternoon read the events rules. Many pointless restrictions get
put in place, but we're hopelesully badly behaved around alcohol.
I recently went to Hellfest in France. Sixty five thousand
people at a rock and heavy metal festival, sixteen hours
a day for four days, no little, no drunkn there's
no fighting. You would see worse at a Warriors game
every week. But I think that poor behavior by Kiwis

(36:37):
is part of as the result of the infantilization of us.
You treat people like children and then they start drinking
and binge drinking because they don't know how many drinks
they're going to get. It could be shut down at
any point. The whole thing gets so shut down that
people just start behaving like children because you treat them
like children.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
That's why we pre low right before these big events,
and also why a lot of people try to smuggle
booze into the likes of the cricket and also the
rugby as well.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
But give us a call.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Nine to nine two is the text number.
And just quickly before we hit the news, there's quite
a few texts coming through about new names for the show.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I quite like this one.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Matt Heath and the Trailer Park TIMU show. I don't
know if it's that clever, but I really like that
show Trailer Park Boys.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Hey, Matt and Tyler, if my behavior is not illegal,
you don't have the right to tell me what I
can and can't do. And if my behavior is illegal,
call the cops. Otherwise is TFU It's from Rob. Yeah,
good on your Rob. Yeah. I mean that's the thing
I often think about that. It's a strange thing when
they sting people for being intoxicated. Right, that's a state
of mind. You can't control someone's state of mind. Yeah.
So if they're intoxicator but not doing anything wrong, they're

(37:47):
just walking around being a bit of a friendly person. Yeah,
then it's a really odd moral decision that we make
that they are doing something wrong. That's just what's in
their head. They're not coming to any crimes, then let
them be.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yeah, nicely said, right, New Sport and weather is coming up.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
But we are carrying this on.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
If you can't get through, keep trying. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number of four you're
listening to.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Matt and Tyler. Stay right here.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
We'll be back very shortly.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Four minutes to too great to have your company as always,
who loves.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Who the most?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Talking with you all afternoon It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons us talks.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
It'd be for a good afternoon tune seven past too.
Welcome back into the program. Just before we get back
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Speaker 2 (39:39):
All right, okay, then all right.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
All right, so let's get back into this. So the
government is promising big changes to licensing rules to make
it easier for organizers to run events, but they are
looking for feedback as well. So if you're in the
event industry, what changes are needed, and if you've recently
been to a festival, what stupid rules have you seen
that needs to be addressed by the government or maybe

(40:02):
even the Council itself.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Oh eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call and.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Side topic because some people around into on the streets
suggested that we change the name of the show to
the Matt Heath and Tyler Swift Show due Doo Tyler's
repeated Taylor Swift topics that we do. She's good, didn't she?
A few people have been suggesting your names to the show. Hi, guys,
love the show and have been listening since the start.
Read the name. There are a few for you to consider.
Matt and Tyler unfiltered. Oh nice, I like that classy

(40:29):
double shot with Matt and Tyler. Oh, the Matt and
Tyler Mix, the Afternoon Lunch Brunt, No, the after Lunch Bunch, No,
the after lunch Brunch.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
The after lunch brunch. Give that man a job that
is vantesta. We'll get him on the payroll.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
All right, back to the topic in hand, This whole
conversation is evil, Like, seriously, come on, boys, will you
take responsibility if someone dies at one of your out
control festivals you want to run? To be fair, I
don't want to run those festivals. Running a festival is
an incredibly stressful occupation, and the people that do it
do it so well. The bread Echos of the worlds,
the Ducos of this world, you know, the electric avenues,

(41:03):
all those things. They are incredibly complicated events that are
run so very well to spite what the councils and
regulations do to them. But to continue the text, I've
been sidetracked on one word. Out of control fistles you
want to run. I don't think she really anyway, So anyway,
carry out to continue. The rules are made by smarter
people than you. You don't know everything. Bad things happen

(41:26):
when people drink. Slash live near a park, Oh, drink,
I live near a park. I see drunk people every night,
drinking on the picnic tables, leave their cans and chips
behind A one hundred thousand person festival full of drunks,
no thanks and grow up. That's interesting because so this
person's example of terrible behavior is leaving the cans and

(41:47):
chips behind and look absolutely put a big believer in
being a tidy Kiwi. Put your cans and your chips
and the recycling and the rubbish absolutely.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, look after this beautiful country.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
This text could have come up with a better example
of terrible behavior than leaving their cans and chips behind.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, I've got to say the part that's stuck out
for me was that there were people smarter than you
coming up with these sort of rules.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Is that really true?

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Or are these people that have just been so knocked
down by life, They had such traumatic upbringings that that
love decided nobody can have any fun and they've somehow
managed to get themselves in a position where they shut
down everything.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Well, there's plenty of smart people that use their intelligence
in the wrong direction, don't they. Yeah. So, if you
are an anti alcohol activist who is enforcing rules that
are outside of what your average key we would think
were fair and balanced and inlign with society, and you're
doing it in a very intelligent and measured and brilliant way,

(42:44):
you're still directing it in the wrong direction, right.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, very true, nicely said.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
And our powerful fire hose is no good if you
use it too, I don't know, spray little kids off bikes.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
That's probably a better example. It's a good analogy. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
New Zealanders turned into a no first society and it's
infiltrated every part of everything we do and it's a
huge shame. Yeah, Kim, welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
How are you good?

Speaker 8 (43:10):
Thanks?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Jents, how are you brilliant? So you've been promoting a
new festival.

Speaker 13 (43:16):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 18 (43:17):
It's called Sonic Waves and it's down in Fogha Matar
at New.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Year's Nice Sonic Waves.

Speaker 18 (43:24):
But we're a little bit different. We're are sixteen and
we're alcohol free, all.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Right, okay? And is this your first? Is this your
first time with it? Camera?

Speaker 6 (43:35):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Has it been on before for all of those years?

Speaker 18 (43:39):
But getting to the getting through the council red tape
and the police is it is major. It's a long
long process, even for an alcohol free even nearly three years.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Wow, even with an alcohol free event.

Speaker 18 (43:56):
Yeah, so the police trying to stipulate that I run
security like it's a licensed event, which is not so,
and I understand their concerns, but all these things just
take a lot of time and essentially cost a lot
of money.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Can you describe what the Can you describe the gig
for us, Kim? What kind of entertainment's there? What size
is it? Whereabouts exactly? What kind of venue?

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (44:27):
I can do that.

Speaker 18 (44:29):
So it's called Sonic Waves. It's at the Fine Rugby
Grounds two nights. It's on the thirtieth and thirty first
of December. So what we're what we're catering for, is
there a truckload of grams or use to go? There
was absolutely nothing to do and just roam around the streets.

(44:52):
So we've got a capacity for six thousand people. Wow,
and fully controlled and secure, fully fenced environment. One of
our headliners is Savage, We've got Sweet mixed kids were
just sign or artists from other countries. So what we're

(45:13):
doing is just providing some quality entertainment for the youth
to get off the street and come and be entertained
in a secure environment.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Good on you, Kim. That sounds like a fantastic idea.
Why did you decide to do it alcohol free? Because
you could have done it that it was you know,
alcohol was sold to adults, but young people could come
in and wouldn't have be allowed to alcohol. Why did
you decide to do it just alcohol free?

Speaker 18 (45:39):
Yeah, that's a good question. And the reason is because
I believe the police would have hanged hamstrung me further
and we would probably still not be putting this event
on now, even after all this time.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Which sounds like, you know, it's a good strategy, but
a strategy you shouldn't have to implement. Why did it
take three years? What's the process you have to go
through and what does it take so long?

Speaker 18 (46:04):
So by the time you apply for resources or you
have meetings around the resource consent, then you get a planner.
Then you've got to get all sorts of consultants and
engineers to comment and draw up documents about your event
and how it's going to affect the environment, all sorts

(46:26):
of things. And you know, our events is particularly small
when you are looking at some of these other huge events.
So unfortunately I missed you're talking to Brent Eckles before,
but you know he's a very experienced campaigner and everything
he says is true. Yeah, it's very very hard.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Have you yet to put together a traffic management plan
as well?

Speaker 18 (46:55):
Yeah, full security plan, full event management plan, full traffic
management plan, acoustic management plan, and the list just go
on and on.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
And how much do you think it would have cost,
you know, not just in time but in money to
get to the point where you are where you can
actually go ahead this year.

Speaker 18 (47:13):
I don't want to stay the actual number, but it's
a lot of money, a lot, and it's a lot
more than your think.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, right, And how can people get tickets?

Speaker 18 (47:23):
You can go to Sonic Waves, dot co, dot m
dead and the informations there and we are hopefully dropping
the final lineup tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Do you think these new regulations that come through that I,
you know, hopefully it gets worked out. And this is
sort of what the're suggesting, that there would just be
a blanket set of rules in a nationwide that you
can sort of look at the look at the rule
book and put it together to put together a festival.
Do you think that would have helped you?

Speaker 18 (47:56):
I definitely think so that when I talk to other
promoters and people in the industry, having all the separate
liquor licensing agencies and the police. Basically you're letting it.

Speaker 19 (48:10):
As I heard you say.

Speaker 18 (48:11):
Before, people that are almost anti alcohol are governing how
these events are run and how they're put on. Yeah,
and when and when we're talking about people, you know,
our age a fine vintage. Most of us are pretty
well behaved. And if you look at the percentages people

(48:32):
that go to these larger, large events and cause trouble
or may get arrested or what have you, it's it's
a very small minority. It is in the grand scheme
of things, and if you want to try to stop those,
you're also stopping all the revenue streams that come with events.
And and that's just not for the promoter, but it's

(48:53):
also for everyone in that area, everyone who works at
those events. You know, there's a lot. It's just such
a big knock on effect. And that's that's why if
you look at Eden Park, how they're now, you know,
trying to put more concerts on and bring more revenue
into Auckland City.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, I mean I live near Eding Park and it
absolutely buzzes when there's when there's an event on at
Eden Park. The restaurants around there. This particular restaurant that
I know that's been struggling, that just packed all the
bars right up through Kingsland and all the way out
to Dominion Road and wider. Are just absolutely buzzing when
there's a big event on and and it just brings

(49:34):
the brings things alive and that needs to be celebrated
as opposed to just zeroing in on the worst possible
case scenario that you can imagine to shut down these
things that are such a great social events and economic
events and great for morale for a town as well.
So come good on you for persevering and getting this
Sonic Waves up and going, and I wish you all

(49:56):
the best with that.

Speaker 18 (49:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Yep, go well Kim. And you're getting a lot of
support on the text machine as well. Great to hear
something coming back to Funga Matah for the youth. Yiha
looking forward to that concert. So if you want to
go and support what can doing Sonic Waves dot co
dot Nz good Man. But three years get listen to
those reports he had to fill out our punishing.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, I mean you'd want the police and the council
to be making it as easy as possible. So come
from the point of view that we want events to happen,
and we want them to work, and we want them
to be successful, and we want people to drink at
them because that's what kiwis want to do and that
should be the base standard that everyone comes to it,
and then the councils should be there to go, Okay,
how can we get this done. We'll do the paperwork

(50:37):
for you because it is great. We'll get this done
for you. The police will be like, oh, this is
what we can do to help. That's the way it
should be. Yeah, it shouldn't be a whole lot of
roadblocks that someone has to basically sacrifice their sanity to
get it done.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Solving problems, not causing them. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten to eight SEU. So what roadblocks did you
face trying to set up a festival? What did you
have to go through? The government is wanting to make
it easier to set up a festival or event, really
keen to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
What changes do you want to see? Nine two nine
two is the text.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Number, Sanny. I'm in my late fifties. We used to
be able to take chili bins with food and drinks
and to eating park for the cricket was as much trouble,
but not on a social media so I few saw
it sandy.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
They were good times, you know. When they started to
ban that, that was just such heartbreak.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well you can still take I think it's a bottle
of champagne and maybe two bottles of champagne into lords
if you want to watch the cricket good times. And
I think it's a bottle of spirits and I think
it's like half d bears.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
That will get you going, that will keep you going.
And it is nineteen past two.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call,
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk said.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Be it's twenty two parts two. The government wants to
make it easier for organized to sit organizers rather to
set up events and festivals. So can you hear from
you what would make your life easier if you've tried
to set up one of these events.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Having worked at festivals and seeing all the background work,
it's a huge, huge effort to put a gig on
along with paperwork, council rulings, police way management, et cetera.
It's a huge amount of time money and if it Yeah,
this person says, go welcome. Bureaucracy is killing this country.
It's around the Sonic Waves festival, Sonic Waves, dot CO,

(52:22):
dot and Z. Councils and police should be able to
template application. Yeah, I mean that's what it should be like.
There shouldn't be any There should just be of things
that you have to do within reason and you know
what you've got to get done so your vessel can
go on. It shouldn't be some people coming in and
making up new things and new ways to try and

(52:43):
shut down. Key is having fun?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
No committees, just tick a box? Does it meet all
the expectations?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yip?

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Happy days? Tich, well, don't have a great event. Hope
it goes well, even better than that.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Here's the template. The council's here to help you, so
we'll here some resources to help you fill out these
forms and anything you need to make this go ahead,
and we'll try and limit that and do that going.
And then the police come and said, absolutely, we love festivals.
What can we do to help.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be nice?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
And these great things go ahead, and then the world
becomes a bit of place go for the economy and
great for society as our whole. Karen, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (53:20):
Hey lens, how are we very good?

Speaker 14 (53:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (53:25):
Hey, I just want to share an experience. Thank you,
Bulls Game and Taranicki Yero Stadium. Once went in with
the wife, two kids, and our two month old baby.
The wife was breastfeeding, so they had one of those
frank green stainless steel drink bottles with her. If you're
second one all the time, and I'll try to take
it off, he wouldn't. We're in, and then we even

(53:47):
were Then they tried to go through the nappy bag
found a baby's bottle that we had in. There were
among the had boiled. Oh my god, looking at us
well fat like pretty much asking us to tip it out.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Oh you're hurting capers. That's a power trip and a half.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I don't know, surely, that's just you've just come across
the dumbest person in the history of the world.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
No, that was the rent of security guard goys. But
so I don't have a bar, but I'm pretty much
time we're to go, and we just walked through and
they were busy enough that they couldn't do anything about it.
But when we left, we came out and there would
have been about fifty of these Frank green Stone of
steel drink bottles on the table on the other side
of the gate.

Speaker 8 (54:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 20 (54:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Well, I've told this story before on this show. But
I was at an event and I went to buy
four waters. So I went to buy four waters because
I was working with some people in the waters and
they said, it's a it's a one drink limit limit.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
It's like they're waters, one drink limit, mate, move along,
one drink limit.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
You've had enough water, sun, go eat a pie and
come back and.

Speaker 17 (54:51):
Have some more water.

Speaker 7 (54:52):
Let's the other side of it. The waters in there
were bloody like eight bucks for a fifty cent bottle.

Speaker 10 (54:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, madness.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
It is madness. And mate, I'm glad you just pushed
through and says no bugg of this. You guys are crazy.
We're going through and you're not stopping me. Well more
people need.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
To do that, because you know, it's the mums with
the newborn babies that calls all the trouble at these gigs. Yeah,
thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Kiaren great cal thank you very much. I wait one
hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've recently been to a festival,
what were some of the stupid rules you saw where
you like Kieren, where they pretty much given you, gave
you the full pet down and maybe get out the
rubber gloves for a festival.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Love to hear from you, hey boys. We tried to
take four hundred and forty mire beers into Lords for
the cricket that's the famous home of cricket in London. Lords.
They only allowed us to take in four each, but
pop the extra beers and the fridge for us to
click when we left. Bloody lovely, Oh be like Lords. Actually,
I'll look into what the restrictions of alcohol that you

(55:48):
can take into Lords and come back to you with that.

Speaker 21 (55:52):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
It is twenty six past two. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call back in the mint.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on us talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Twenty nine past two.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
We're talking about crazy restrictions for events in our country
because of associates. Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced reforms at
the New Zealand Association's annual conference. They look pretty good.
We'll see how they pan out. But there are places
in the world that are much more sane when it
comes to what you can do at grounds. Take Lords

(56:29):
the Home of Cricket in London. So this is what
you're allowed to bring into the ground. Okay, So if
you're going along, you're allowed to bring one bottle of
wine or champagne nice which is seven hundred and fifty
meals yep. Or four cans or bottles of beer or
cider max. Five hundred mili each yep. Four cans of
pre mix to paradiefs well max. Three hundred and thirty mils.

(56:51):
You're not allowed to bring in a bottle of gin vodka.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Probably makes sense, but that is, I mean the other
rules we should be getting behind. So one bottle of
wine or shampas four tour boys five hundred mil. You
can do a lot with that, and then four cans
off what was the last one?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
The pre mix primis a PIFs, A couple of Jack Daniels.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Good place be more like Lord's, right, I think we
got time to have and we chatworth Rob.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
Get a rob, Yeah, Hi, how are you hate?

Speaker 13 (57:23):
Just to go back to that Nelson one, would you
be forty? And I think it was Dragon. You're absolutely right.
And when you say that there is activists controlling the situation.
So I can only talk for the Nelson situation because
I know people in mospot here. But you've got three
people that you deal with when you go to get
it render your liqual license or for that situation. One

(57:47):
is the counsel, one is the police, and one is
the health depart Okay, And you'll remember, not only did
Nelson have that problem or with that event, they also
decided that Nelson City Council decided to ban liquor advertising
at sex and Able and then they were that they

(58:08):
wouldn't give any more cricket games, and there was a
high doing and throwing and that that changed. The person
at the health department in Nelson's is a woman who
won't be named. She says she doesn't drink. So when
you get a person who doesn't think any alcohol and then.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
They should be doing the job, they shouldn't be doing
the job. The person that's doing that job should be
aligned with what most Kiwis are thinking in life.

Speaker 13 (58:40):
Exactly my point that they're not suitable for the position.
Because they can't take a neutral position on it, all right,
And that is the situation. And also then you go
the police are very pragmatic here. They look at it
from a point of view. You know, if you're a
restaurant or a bar, they look at it with us.

(59:00):
This place got a lot of trouble.

Speaker 11 (59:02):
There are lots of fire, so.

Speaker 13 (59:03):
Many people get thrown out, et cetera, et cetera. We
called anyone serving anyone drunk. They just look at it
from the statistics type of thing. But you often find
within the councils themselves, the bureaucrats can be like plumbing, unparking,
meat a wardens, and all of them need to do

(59:23):
custom service training. The friendliest people in the council, and
I'm sure you agree that people that answer the phones.
As soon as you start peeling back the onion skin
and going down to resource consents or water or wherever,
it appears that none of them have actually had any
customer service training. Just like you said before, how can

(59:45):
we make this work? What do we need to do
to make this work? You know, how can we get
this thing happening? That mindset does not exist. But then
I would say most councils in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
There's a problem there with those licensing committees, isn't it.
I mean, it seems to me they're appointed by the council.
It should be open to vote from the public, so
you put people in there who actually understand about events
and festivals and having fun and what the community needs.
Said of some numpties who are bored in retirement and
they get voted in by the council.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Being the president of an AMP committee the last few years,
things are just ridiculous. The local council and Cannibury wanted
to charge one thousand dollars per bouncy castle to inspect
them before the AMP show. Also, obtaining a lock of
license for six hours is nearly a waste of time.
Now yeah, yeah, unreal, Yeah, exactly what Rob said. The councils,

(01:00:34):
the police, everyone involved should be looking to do everything
they can to make festivals happen, make them as easy
as possible. Should They should have resources to put them
ahead and put them make sure they go ahead and
it just roll out the red carpet to make them happen,
rather than putting up roadbox to make it difficult. Because

(01:00:54):
events so good for the community and so good for the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Society, nicely said, a great discussion and it seems like
a step in the right direction from the government. But
maybe more to come on that. So thank you very
much to everyone who called in text on that one.
Coming up after the head lines, Let's have a chat
about gray areas of the road code. Big story on
what happens if you're driving down the street there's park
cars on either side, you're in one direction, somebody else

(01:01:18):
is in the other direction. You had it at the
same time. Who gives way? But it's not the only
gray area of the road code. So we can hear
from you on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twenty
six to three.

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at NZ Herald Premium. Now back to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Susie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
So picture this, and many of us have faced this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
You're driving up a suburban street when the road narrows,
with cars parked on both sides, leaving just enough space
for one vehicle to pass through at a time. Up
her head, you can see another driver he's coming from
the opposite direction, or she and you both slow down
unsure of who should move first. There's no sign, there's
no lane markings and no obvious rule, so who gives way?
Great story on the Herald, and with the number of

(01:03:23):
townhouses going up, I think it is a situation. Many
around the country have faced narrow streets. You both come
up into that situation and courtesy sometimes goes out the window.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because there's some people.
I mean, the side topic on this is people when
you let them through who don't wave say thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, you know, I've had to grow up as a
human and now I don't get angry about it, but
used annoy me so much. You let people through, or
you let one person through and the person just behind
them accelerates and takes the piss bad piece. The other
thing is you don't know how many people the person
has let through before you come up to them. So
they might have on a long street, and there's a
bunch of these in Auckland, long narrow streets, so that
someone might have let two people in on their way

(01:04:03):
down this road. Yeah, by the time they get to you,
they're like, na, nah, you're the third, but you don't
know that you get annoyed at them. So it's a
tough one because it's you know, it's easy on a
slope street because you know that if you're coming down,
you give way to coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Yes, yeah, because I always think it is quite often
a lot. I have this almost every day when I
go home. There's one street in particular and there's cars
parked on both sides. But if there is a gap
on my side or the other driver's side, so you
get the cars parked up, but there's a little gap there.
If that gap is on their side, they need to
give away to me because they can just swoop in
there and I can go past. But if the gap

(01:04:42):
is on my side, then I give way to them.
And it's also distance. If they hit that point before
I do, then I'll get to give way. I pull
to the side, so I'm not going to start gunning
and up to try and beat them to that point.
I just do what I think is the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Something that speeds up so they
get the right of way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
And that has happened to me that I've pulled over
and let a whole bunch of cars come through, and
then I see this nothing come screaming down to get
through as well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
And on occasion, and I'm not proud of myself when
I do this, But then when that person comes in,
I'll just swing out into the middle of the road
say excuse me, excuse me, mate, you're not coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
When did you start using the word numpty?

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
I've thought out quite a lot today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I've got a lot. This numpty. It's very it's very mild.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
It's a very nid Flanders kind of kind of slang,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
It's a very mild insult. Of course, it's quite I
like it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
You like it, You'll keep using it. I'll throw a
muppet from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
It's old school. It's not too abusive. It's like this
numpty that's naughty. Yeah you, I mean, you could use
much worse words for that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Do you like numpty nine two nine?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Too? But there are a lot of gray areas, you know,
as I was saying before when we were talking about
doing this subject, there are things in the road code
that people don't know, yes, right, And then there are
things that aren't in the road code. There's these gray
areas of driving that you come across regularly, YEA and so,
And there's some things in the road code that that

(01:06:04):
just aren't widely known by people. I mean, you read
the rod cone when you first pass your license, and
you never see it again until maybe you're testing your
kid YEA, get their driver's license hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
So what are they those gray areas?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
So e one hundred and eighty ten eighty, what's your
strategy on those streets where they're two narrow and you
have to give away for someone? Or when do you
give away? And also what are these gray areas of driving? Yeah,
you know, gray areas of road rules.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
The phones have let up and the texts are coming
through thick and fast. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighties number call beg very shortly. It is eighteen to three.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Yeah, numberties.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
That'd be afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
We're talking about gray areas of the road code or
perhaps laws that are misunderstood.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call regarding approaching a pedestrian cross and what you said
about the diamond is completely wrong. You need to read
the road code and correct your listeners before you cause
a death. That is the most hysterical text we've ever got. Traumatic.
I'll read it again regarding approaching you're in crossing. What
you see about the diamond, it's can't plenty wrong. You
need to read the road going and correct gulists before

(01:07:13):
your cause it. They have a cup of tea love.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Anyway, that what that was was someone was saying, whereas
well were It wasn't actually us that was saying. We
read it out, well, we'll look it up. Someone was
saying that if you can't believe this person sent that
text that what the person was saying that is, if
you have passed the diamond before the pedestrian crossing, then
the car has right of way. Yes, but what I

(01:07:36):
said was never enforced the right of way on a pedestrian. Yeah,
because you know, even if you do, they have the
right of the way. If you're on the pedestrian crossing,
you let them go across.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Always for me, if a pedestrian is either waiting at
the pedestrian crossing or has their foot on the pedestrian crossing,
then the pedestrian has the right of way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Ye just let them through.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Let them through.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
You don't want I had a pedestrian before. Someone is
the text number. We're getting plenty coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Hey guys, my parent partner hates the no way a
holes often flips the bird as they pass. It's now
affecting me a street as a shocker for part cars narrowing.
That's from and Nicky Scott, welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:08:17):
Gooday guys.

Speaker 21 (01:08:19):
Yeah, the narrow roads are being a truck driver and
living in and around Wellington and now in christ Church.
Just simple easy answer as if there's space to pull
off to the side and I makest out the park cars,
do so and just use the give way rull. Otherwise
you go one car at a time and use that
give way rull, you know, give way to your right.

(01:08:42):
A simple easy answer for that one. And like I'm
just in the process of going for my truck and
trailer license at the moment, I'm going through the fourth
time through the road code. Okay, the specialty Christians. But
one of the previous questions I came up against online

(01:09:02):
use today.

Speaker 7 (01:09:02):
I think it was.

Speaker 21 (01:09:05):
Around if there was money owing on.

Speaker 18 (01:09:07):
A vehicle, what should you do?

Speaker 8 (01:09:10):
It's nothing to.

Speaker 21 (01:09:11):
Do with the road code.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, that's in the road code.

Speaker 21 (01:09:16):
There was a question that I got asked as a
Fraigus question for a road a learner's license roadmade.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
That's a waste of time. Yeah, that's that's a totally
different issue.

Speaker 21 (01:09:29):
Yeah, and then you're just talking about pedestrian crossings. One
of the questions that I had today was, even though
a pedestrian cross is crossing out a red light, should
you give way to them?

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Yes or no?

Speaker 21 (01:09:41):
And the answer is yes, the red light, the walking
men light is showing and that's crossed started crossing the road.
The correct answer for that, according to the online testing
that I'm doing using the road code, is yes, you
should stop and give way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Yeah. Well that kind of makes sense though, doesn't it, Scott,
because you know, and soft whereas your truck is hard.
But I mean, but that that red fleshing right, is
just telling pedestrian get across quickly.

Speaker 21 (01:10:17):
Technically of saying don't cross the road.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
So you know, you're not talking about the flashing red,
You're talking about a solid red. Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:10:26):
So the question was when when the red man is solid, yeah,
read light are solid for the pedestrian at the crossing
and crossing the road, should you give way to the pedestrian?

Speaker 18 (01:10:37):
And the answer is his of course.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Yeah, well there are foolish There are a foolish pedestrian,
but they get right away by virtue of always coming
out second on the.

Speaker 21 (01:10:48):
But also also in my driving experience there is probably
ninety nine percent of New Zealanders should read the road
code every week because nobody ever and nobody ever indicates anymore.
And on emerging lane coming off like the on ramps
or off ramps off the motorway, nobody these days, no
how knows how to drive all the way.

Speaker 22 (01:11:07):
To the end and merge.

Speaker 21 (01:11:08):
Then at the end of the moving lane emerged like
a zip kid. So we're the end of the barrier.
Isn't shoot straight across?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Yeah? Absolutely that that's a bigginning. Now you're driving around
in a truck, so you'd be able to see into
people's cars quite a light. I mean this morning, I
was talking about it before I saw someone that was
pulling out of a gym car park across the pavement
onto the road nearly hit my dog. On her phone.
She was actually staring down at her phone as she
drove onto a street. So when you're driving around in

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your truck, you'd see do you see more and more
people just actually driving around along looking at their phones.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:11:42):
You see people on their phones.

Speaker 21 (01:11:43):
You see people putting on makeup, you see people doing
all sorts of weird.

Speaker 18 (01:11:46):
In one of the things.

Speaker 21 (01:11:47):
Yeah, I mean yeah, you can see intimate eggs and
certain cities as well. You just see the weird and
wonderful when you're in a truck.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Yeah, that's that's concerning because I like to drive around
with no pants on, so I didn't know that people
could see me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Scott's been looking at you your business all this time, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Yeah, Scott, stay safe out there, Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Hey, without a word of a lie. I saw this
the other day on the motorway, just you're talking about
the phone, and it was traffic. You know, traffic was
pretty slow, so not much going on. But I saw
someone watching an episode of Friends on their phone. They
just had the we phone on the dashboard and we're
watching TV, and I thought, ah, you are kidding me.
So they going to hit one eye on the episode
of Friends. And one A on the road and I

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thought this is too much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Yeah, episode of Friends, will We'll wait? The show ended
in the nineties. Exactly, you can. I'm pretty sure it
into the nineties. You can just watch that when you get.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Home media reruns to go to later on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
It's not emergency information about an alien invasion?

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and
number to call? What are the gray years of the road?
Rules that need to be called out? Or what have
you come up against? Love to hear from you? Nineteen
ninety two is the text number?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Oh no, I got it wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
What happens?

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
And the final episode of Friends with the sext of
May two thousand and four, how dare you shame? The
stick said? Why is Colin on the phone?

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
Did I?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Did I tell that story? Poorly? That wasn't my dog
Colin that was on the phone when the woman was
filling out Colin was on the lead. The woman was
on the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Clearly Colin wasn't on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
If Colin wants to jump on the phone on our
walks and then my dog's more than welcome to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
He's a good boy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
I'll get in my headset.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
It is nine to three, the issues that affect you
and a bit of fun along the way Matt Heath
and Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
News Talks It be it is six two three and
we're talking about the gray areas of our road rules.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Plenty out there. It seems like one hundred and eight
ten eighties number to coop.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yeah, And we were talking before about the diamond that's
painted on the road before a pedestrian crossing, because someone
said that reading out of texts that had it wrong
could lead to people, Oh, dremante dramatic. It was a
dramatic text from that numpty that cotton headed Ninny Muggins.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Nice, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Yeah, it's a good Let's make a night of that.
That's from the movie Elf. Put that in your repertoire
of soft insults, Tyler, I have. I've just written that
one down. Here we go. The diamonds painted on the
road might not mean what you think they mean. This
is from an article from twenty twenty four. On Sunday,
Wellington cyclist James Sullivan was almost hit by a countdown
delivery truck after he stopped for a pedestrian carrying a

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baby across the road. He recorded the footage on his
bike cameras showing the delivery truck was centimeters from his
bike when it passed him. In response, several readers and
social media users raised the point that both Sullivan and
the truck had gone past the diamond painted on the
road in their incorrect interpretation of the road code code.
This article in this paper needs an editor. The vehicles

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did not have to stop for the pedestrian once they
had passed the diamond. This is not the case. According
to the road code and guidance from Waka Kotahi in
z Transport Agency, drivers must always be ready to stop
at a pedestrian crossing. The diamonds do not come into
it like a triangle on the road for a giveway sign.
A diamond on the road for a pedestrian crossing is

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a warning. It means a pedestrian crossing is coming up
and you should be aware of surroundings. I mean it
would be insane for someone even if the rule was
different from that you're trying and force it. I mean,
if you're coming up to a zebra crossing or a
pedestrian crossing. I mean, I remember once a cop came
to our school and told me off for calling it
at zebra crossing when I was five. You said you're
too old to be calling it a pedestrian a zebra crossing.

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As a pedestrian crossing, you know, there's a different issue.
If you're coming up to it, you're looking and going
as there, you're looking to stop at a pedestrian crossing
one hundred percent, you're looking even you're even looking at
pedestrians are close and looking and hunting that they're going
to come across. Yeah, you know, well, once they're on there,
you're not enforcing any issue. No one's looking at their
road rual book and saying, oh, I'm in the right
arway here. I'm just going to keep going to mow

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this person down. Of course they're not right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
We're going to carry this on after three o'clock. So
plenty of great texts coming through on nine two ninety two.
But can you hear from you on O eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
And also we've got Steve coming up from Hawks Bay
wants to talk about the Numpty issue.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
That's what everybody wants to know right that is coming
up New Sport of Weather on its way. You're listening
to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon, Loot the past.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
It's Mattie and Tyler Adams Afternoons on news Talk Sevy for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
A good afternoons.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
You welcome back into the program seven pass three, just
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Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Or if you just want to sniffle it for yourself.
Yeah yeah, I mean we.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Know exactly good points nine two ninety two just takes
punishing and your full name.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
So back to this discussion.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
We started off mentioning who gives way to who when
you meet another driver on a narrow road, But it's
become much.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Wider than that. Great areas of the road rule.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
That is just one of them, but there are so
many coming through on nine two ninety two, and we
want to hear from you on oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
This Texas is can you drink while you're driving? And look,
that sounds like a silly question, but if actually think
about a bit deeper, of course you can drink a
softwaink you drinking you're driving? Yes, but surely if you
remain under the alcohol limit, it's not a great look
and it may, you know, excite the entrance interest of
the police. But surely if you're under the limit, then

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you could drink a alcoholic drink while you're driving the car,
as long as you didn't drink to the point of
being over the limit.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is that a loophole that
if you've had a big date at the ski field
and you decide to crack a beer on the drive home,
and it's your only beer of the day, and it's
the only beer you're going to have, then you're under
the limit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
That's the gray area. I'm sure that's that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, that's interesting. Well, would make sense because if you're
not if you're not drunk, then you're not breaking the law.

Speaker 7 (01:18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
But I mean if you go driving past the cops
and you're got.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
A heinie in your in your gob.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Yeah, you've got it. You've got an espresso martini in
your hand, that would be impressive. Then they're probably gonna
they're probably gonna to have a chat to you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Yeah, exactly one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Oh, Steve, you want to talk about the numpty issue.

Speaker 10 (01:18:45):
Yeah, I'll just answer your first question. Just you're drinking.
So that's that's an American thing. If you've got an
open vessel in your vehicle while you're driving, it doesn't
matter if it's a passenger in the back seat or anywhere.
You get done to DUI but if you deal no
problems at all, you can drive home with a heinie
in your hands. As long as you're not over the
limit and you haven't blown over two fifty, Yeah, you're

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good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Which which which makes sense because because you're not committing
a crime, because because it's silly, because because if you
could have had the one beer as you were leaning
against the car before you get in. Exactly, it's it's
the state of abriation and they've decided the limit of that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:21):
So so yeah, it's probably not.

Speaker 10 (01:19:23):
The safest thing to do, Like driving your phone in
your handles space, it's probably not much difference.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Well, I don't know. I don't I don't think there's
something about that doesn't feel right. But you know you
did you You've done it a few times, Steve. It's enjoyable,
I feel.

Speaker 10 (01:19:36):
And I ran the booze I ran the booze bus
and Thomas and North. You know, I think it's all
about drink driving.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Did you did anyone anyone ever pull up to the
booze bus under the limit drinking and beer?

Speaker 10 (01:19:48):
I can't remember. Actually, the best story I've got Well,
if you've got time, this is a classic, right, so
I was very young in the job. Is that pun
or tevan rocked up at about eleven o'clock was closing time,
and there must have been one hundred cars in there,
and I thought, man, I'm going to get a drink
driver for sure. This is awesome. Guy stumbled out of
the pub. This is a true story, by the way,

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and he drops his keys and he finally gets the car,
and he finally gets his car, and I'm just rubbing
my hands, going, oh, this is good. It's like going fishing, mate,
And he speeds up the road. He jumps to the
carry rockets off and hell so I'm tearing up the
road after him, and I catch him about two k's later,
and I put enough. I get back to the tapoona
t heaven and there was not a car left in

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the car.

Speaker 13 (01:20:31):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
He was the wee decoy, the rabbit. They called it
the rabbit.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
Yeah, yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Dark side of the designated driver, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
WoT You've got a smile though, don't you, designated rabbit?

Speaker 13 (01:20:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
So he did an impressive drunk persons impression, got in
the car, threw away the.

Speaker 10 (01:20:54):
Policeman because the obviously saw me parked up down the road. Yeah,
we got on stated it and they got away with it.
And obviously the no one crashed that night, so it
was a good, good result all around. But what I
was ringing about because one of my boys were nicknamed
Numpty on the boost bus and he was a classic.
He one day was a public holiday and he didn't
turn up to work and we bring him where the

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hell are you? And he goes, oh, I didn't think
we had to work on a public holiday. And then
it gets worse, and so we're round one and he
and you know, we get a lot of chases, right,
and we're chasing some I don't know, a stolen car
or something or drunk driver around the streets and everyone's
coming in from We had about five or six cars

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out chasing trying to catch this guy. And we finally
catch him and we all go back to the station
and there's Numpty back at the station. I said, mate,
why didn't you enjoy it? When did you join in?

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
Where were you?

Speaker 18 (01:21:47):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:21:47):
I didn't want to get lost, so I just drove
one block around the police station and just went around
in a circle all night. I kid you not, this
is a policemen. He went through Police College.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
And there's so many people. There's so many people that
don't get through police College. So many people that don't
even get into police College. It's one in ten that
even get in litt alone pass.

Speaker 13 (01:22:08):
Do you know what?

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
He was book smart?

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
He was box smart.

Speaker 10 (01:22:11):
He works for the council.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Now, I was going to ask whatever to Numpty? Now
is he still called numbty?

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:22:17):
Well, yeah, he called it affectionately, but I mean you
go even said one day when I got a tick through,
is he chewing your ear Off's Numpty chewing yeary off?
And he picks up my phone and goes, do they
still call me Numpty?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Great story?

Speaker 17 (01:22:34):
Great?

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
He's in the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call great areas on the road code. There's
so many ticks coming through on nine to two, nine
to two as well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
If you're over, take a deep breath and blow as
hard as you can. It's the idiots that blow as
gently as possible that always felt. No, there's no.

Speaker 7 (01:22:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
That sounds like an old wife star. I don't know
if you can outbreathe the breathalyzer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
No, I think I think the best approach is to
probably not drive drunk.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was rule.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
But that's the best way not to get panned for
drink driving.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
That's how you beat it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Hey, lads, you're not allowed to drive while speaking on
the phone, But what if I drive with the banana
to my ear and starts talking to that? Is that illegal?
What's the difference between that and a phone? No, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
It's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
It's a good question. But I mean, that's the thing.

Speaker 16 (01:23:20):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I also think like drink eating a really hot pie.
There used to be these spinach and cheese pies, so
you get from posibly pies. Yeah, it was the only
vegetarian pile alight. But the first bite it would always
unleash like a waterfall of boiling hot water. That would
cause you to scream in agony. Yeah, that's right, driving
and anyone in them, Yeah, you know, I nearly it
nearly caused an accident a bit, far far worse than

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talking on the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Wasn't there an ad where it was about driver distraction?

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
And there was one feller in the air that was
eating his pie boon to hands and then he drove
off the side of the rown into a fence.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
I could see that aning I just drove over three crossings.
The diamond is at least twenty meters away from the crossing.
So yes, it's a warning of a crossing. Yeah, I
mean I think we all we all kind of knew that.
It was just someone that got excited and thought that
if you get it, if you're past the diamond, you
can put your foot down and playoff through the pedestrian.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Yes, no one's going to get that smug just to
mow down somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to
call the gray areas of our road rules.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
It is quarter past three US Talks.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
It'd be very good afternoon to you're talking about the
gray areas of the road code where people might not
be familiar with the law or there might not be
any rules that actually apply. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. It started off with something that a lot
of people have faced. You come to a narrow road,
cars parked on both sides, and you meet someone in
the middle who gives way, and it turns out there's

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no actual official rules. It's based on courtesy, But can
you hear from you on I eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Maybe, because it'll be hard to make a rule because
it'd be quite complicated. Say well, if you are closer
to a gap where you can pull over to let
the person through, then you let them go through it.
You know, we have to be a very hard thing
to work out. But what happens in an accident?

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
I've always thought about that because it's calm close to
losing my wing mirror a couple of times in that scenario.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
But if I lose my wing in terms of who
takes capability and as far as insurance is concerned or something.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Yeah, yeah, So what happens in that scenario where you
call the police and say we were both yeah, gunning
for it, Yeah we could make it work.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah, well, you you know, got angry and ended up
in a game of sort of half chicken. Yeah, yeah,
that would that would be interesting if.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
You've ever been in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Have you ever been in a situation where you've got
both gone through and then one of you said to
reverse yep, right, and was that you No, you don't
have my ground. I held my ground and we were
both really angry. And again I didn't feel good about
myself after this, but I just refused and then ended
up getting out of the car.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
He got out of the car. But then in the
end the people are honking behind us. Sorted that out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
But yeah, it's not a situation you really want to
get into.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Isn't that silly? How angry we get on the roads?

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Come on, I look back at that just as I
was saying that, man, man, you're a numpty tiler. Why
did you just get to that point? Should it just
reversed and let them through? It's not the end of
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Hey, lads, can you drink zero alcohol bea while driving?
Cheers Shane. Yeah you can smash them back because you
can any of you from slamming soda.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Yeah, go hard on those ross.

Speaker 23 (01:26:12):
How are you good things? Mate?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
And you yeah very well. So you want to talk
about who gives way to who?

Speaker 23 (01:26:18):
That's right?

Speaker 9 (01:26:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:26:20):
How how it actually works of living Willington And I'll
be also, I've been a driver trainer. How it works
for the narrow roads with cars parked on the side
of the road. Say I'm for example, say I'm driving
north and there's a park car on my side of
the road that I've got to go round, and there's
a car coming south, I have to actually give way

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to the car coming south because there is what's called
an imaginary center line, right, and I across that center
line in in front of it of the car that's
coming south and I haven't, I can be charged with
driving on the wrong side of the road.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Right, So the center line. If this car is parked
along one side of the road, that center line is
not affected by the cars obviously, that's just down the
center of the actual road.

Speaker 23 (01:27:09):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That does make sense.

Speaker 23 (01:27:12):
Now, if you've got so you've got a guy who
wants to play chicken with you, then he wants to
come through first, it's still maybe and for example, maybe
you get to the car that you want to go
around first. That still that rule still applies. If if

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he plays chicken with you and he hits you, you're
still at fault for cross and that center line.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
What if both of you have crossed the center line ross,
Where do you end up in that scenario?

Speaker 23 (01:27:49):
Well, then then it's up to a discretion really on
who who was going to give way to whom?

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
M yeah, yeah, what advice do you give to when
you're teaching kids to drive, because imagine around Wellington it's
this is quite a big issue with the narrow streets.
There some very complicated streets there. What advice do you
give them, you know, for gray area things like this.

Speaker 23 (01:28:15):
Well, basically a good example of us is especially with
the willingtoon bus drivers. If I've got big busses and
they seem to think because A're bigger than you, they
have the right away, generally I would turn around and say,
just pull, just use your courtesy, even though you've got

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the right away, let them go, just let.

Speaker 7 (01:28:41):
Them go first.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, yeah, well courtesy, isn't it like?

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
And I get that, but I suppose what goes wrong
with that old who gives way situation is try to
be courteous and snow skin off my nose. Just let
people pass if they've got if they are more of
a hurry, which they usually are, but then you feel
like you're doing a good deed, and then they don't wave,
so that annoys me, and then again someone starts racing
up ross to try and squeeze in there. At that

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point I'd lose it and say not, you've taken the pass.
I've tried to be courteous, tried to do the right
thing here, but you are letting the side down. That's
where it all goes wrong for me.

Speaker 8 (01:29:17):
Ross.

Speaker 23 (01:29:18):
Yeah, yeah, and I agree. I agree. I mean, you know,
you could sit on the side of the road and
let all the cars first, you know, you know, I mean,
as long as you know you let the car that's
nearest to you, the front car, you let that through.
And if there's a couple of cars behind you, let

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them follow through too. If it's a get then you
take you take off, You go around and make that
other person slow down and liet you three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Yeah, yeah, thank if you cool, Ross, thank you for
your expertise. Yeah. I mean, Tyler, it makes you angry.
But at what point do you become a vigilante? Is
that what you're saying? Yeah, so there's three And then
suddenly Tyler becomes full batman and goes, I don't care
what happens. I've got the right away. I'm coming through
at pace.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Yeah, it's exactly it. And then it becomes who DearS win?

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
So I start off saying I'm going to be a
good citizen here, and you know, come on, through, even
though you should have given the given way to me,
come on through. And then there comes a point where
then I start feeling like these people are walking over
me now, so I'm going to turn and mister.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Vitel, for that last person that takes advantage. They might
not know how many other people have gone past. They
just having to be the fifth person. That's just to
be in a little bit cheeky. And then Tyler goes
full batmobile and drives over your car. What about buses
pulling out because I always let busses pull out, Yeah,
one d percent always let them out, pull out, definitely,
and nearly all of them give me the you know,

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the flashing emergency lights of thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
And aren't they good on doing that? That's why you
let them out because they're always so courteous.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
They always give the wee hazard light flash.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
But I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
But then every now and then one doesn't, so I
just go full vigilante and just drive into the back
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is another to cool.
It is twenty four past three.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons cool.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
On News Talks'd be twenty seven past three, So we
talk about gray areas of the road rules.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Driver a brand new Bentley and let the other driver
decide if the lawyers can beat yours if there is
a crash. I wonder if people with flash of cars
are treated with more respect, you know, right through the
punishing COVID lockdowns. I'd come into work every day and
I'd park beside my Costkings vehicle at the time. I
think it was a Rolls Royce Wraith Yep. Nice and

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there was just more pressure in the parking because you know,
why did you do it?

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
I mean, I'm like, I was parking beside your car, Tyler,
then scrape it up. No worries that that's what's happened
to it. The truth comes down, now, wouldn't that. But
it flows out when the car you're pulling up beside,
or you know, you just think that the stakes are
just a bit higher. Yeah, but do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
Or I would argue that if a Bentley's coming towards me,
I think, buggy, you you've got a Bentley. I'm not
gonna I'm not going to yield to you, even if
it cost me a fortune and bankrupts me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Well, Israel Adisagia. He drives a McLaren Yeah around Auckland.
Very cool car, very cool.

Speaker 6 (01:32:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
I wouldn't hit that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I've seen him a few times because it would.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Cost me money, just because that's quite a good fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
That's a double threat, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
That is a double threat. I don't want to be
knocked out by that fellow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
But you know, I've driven past him before and you're
just a little bit more careful with a car that's
worth three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Yeah, funny that, yeah, John, How are you.

Speaker 19 (01:32:38):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (01:32:39):
Guys?

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:32:39):
Good.

Speaker 24 (01:32:40):
Just going back to that that giving way when cars
are packed on either side of the road. I get
infuriated because I drive home on two roads where cars
are parked on either side. I live in Auckland, and
that's crowded. Yeah, but there is no need for anyone
to give way, right. There is plenty of room on
the road, but people insist on driving with the middle

(01:33:02):
of their bonnet down the center line, giving a two
meter gap between the cars parked on the side of
the road.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
And if people just.

Speaker 24 (01:33:09):
Had an awareness of space and had this, I don't know,
you know, just how wide is your vehicle. How close
can you get? You can do it when you park.
You don't have to do that at fifty k's. You
can do that thirty k's and it keeps everything moving.
And I just just go, come on this room. There's
plenty of room. You don't need to drive there.

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
And that that drives me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Nuts, I think, right, John, I think I think a
lot of the worst driving is overly timid driving. Yeah,
like people people that don't really know so they sort
of they sort of numpedy around.

Speaker 24 (01:33:41):
And look, that's in my vocabulary. Everyone's a numbty. I'm
quite good at talking to the windscreen when I'm driving.
Wind screen and I have quite a good conversation. Yeah,
And you know, and also something else, I discovered that
when we get in our cars, our personal space gets

(01:34:01):
a whole lot bigger. Right, So we have our personal
space we don't like people getting with and you know,
when we're having a conversation, we probably say meter apart,
and all of a sudden it gets bigger than around
our car. And you know, and that's I think that's
why we have a tendency to get angry on the road.
We feel our personal space has been invited, invaded. But look,
as I've got older, I let people. I let them go,

(01:34:24):
and you know what, what goes around comes around. I
really believe that, and people let me. But I've got
a certain thing for people like you saying flash cars
and that sort of thing. And I thought, I bet
he won't let me in if it's a Toyota or Honda.

Speaker 7 (01:34:37):
They're going to let me.

Speaker 24 (01:34:38):
If it's a Porsche, I ain't getting in there.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Every time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
I think there's been a study that's showing that. I
think I read a study at some point that that's
showing that. But yeah, I'm with John. I let people
pass because it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
And you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
You don't need to expect thank you for it. You
didn't do it for the for the wave. You know,
you didn't do it that. And look, you don't know
why they didn't wave. Maybe they don't have hands, you know,
maybe they've only got one hand. I mean, I do
do it for the way, but if they've got no hands,
then I got you're furious at someone for the rest
of the day because they didn't wave.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Yeah, and they might have not had heads turns.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Out on turns out the dude only had one hand.
We couldn't wave.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
I feel really bad now, all right, we've got the
headlines coming up. Then we're taking more of your calls
on gray areas of our road rules if you want
to send a tax ninety two nine two. But headlines
with Susie coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Yeah, this is good from being even Carlos sins as
trouble with spatial awareness just us Liam Lawson. Carlos, you've
lost if you're listening. If you're listening, you've lost a
lot of respect from me with your winging and blaming
Liam Lawson for that. All right, be better, Yeah, be better, Carlos.

Speaker 5 (01:35:45):
You talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

Speaker 14 (01:35:48):
It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Senior Labor MP
Willie Jackson says the party is for everyone after what
he agreed was a racist attack from a Tea party.
Multi MP Tackle tar Ferris posted a photo on social
media of labor volunteers of different ethnicities sign waving the
Tamaki Mikado by election, saying they are campaigning to take

(01:36:12):
a Maori seat from Maldi. ACC's leadership is acknowledging it's
fall and short for staff following a workplace culture review.
Its findings from staff interviews found a lack of past
accountability and low trust trust in internal complaints processes. Fire
Doors at two of the country's largest construction projects are

(01:36:34):
being tested for asbestos. Fletcher Building is testing fire doors
at Auckland's yet to open International Convention Center, and christ
Urt City Council is doing the same at Kakaha Stadium.
Police are appealing for witnesses of a serious crash in Wonica.
Emergency services were called to the collision on Cardrona Valley

(01:36:55):
Road about four pm yesterday. Alis Soper on why early
jitters don't spell doom for the black Ferns can see
her full.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Column at Nziedhral Premium.

Speaker 14 (01:37:05):
Now back to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Thank you very much, Susie. We're talking about great areas
of the row rule, and so many ticks are coming through.
On nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Absolute anti success rhetoric. I drive a twenty twenty four
Aston Martin DBX, nice and I drive in a very
friendly manner, says The stixer is the DBX. It's sort
of a a look at that. Yeah, the DBX, how
would you describe it? It kind of looks like a
super flash forward focus but large.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Yeah, low to the ground slug, Yeah yeah, good, good
on you. Yeah, well done that driver, Well done.

Speaker 23 (01:37:41):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
I want to have a drive one of these beer boys.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Now, I'd like to get a Eston muttin dB twelve.
The dB twelve, it's being of batmobiles. Get that in black.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Yeah, Oh Jesus, that's sexy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
In fact, I've said to my kids that that's how
they need to repay me back for bringing me up,
is to be successful.

Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
That's what yami kids, Eston Martin.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
I'm just having a look at a couple on trade me.
So there's one going for four hundred and fifteen thousand
dollars on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
This one's a good deal. Four hundred ninety eight thousand dollars. Yeah,
there you go. We'll put a bit.

Speaker 6 (01:38:14):
In for you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Sacrifices as I sacrifices I've made for my kids. At
least they could do exactly one of them's eighteen. I
expect that BOS twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
First spoken, Well, all right, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty to number a call, get.

Speaker 7 (01:38:26):
A pool, Good a fellows, how are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
You very good? What's your gray area that you think
people should know about.

Speaker 20 (01:38:34):
Oh mate, this one's a river, So you can't pick
up your phone when you're driving and talk on it. Right,
But if you've got to breathallize interlocker in your vehicle
that goes off every ten minutes when you're driving, you've
got to pick that up and blowing it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Yeah, right, that'd be interesting. Can you be pinged for
blowing and your breathalyzer? It's a good point. There is
a distraction. How often does that go off, Paul?

Speaker 5 (01:38:59):
Did you say.

Speaker 15 (01:39:01):
Every ten minutes?

Speaker 19 (01:39:03):
Really from a friend's point of view, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Thought they were just for startup, but is that in
this case you start slamming a bottle of vodka while
you're driving along the road.

Speaker 20 (01:39:13):
Well, as you mentioned earlier on, it's it's okay to
grab a grab a road as such and get on
with it, but not when you've got one of these on.

Speaker 10 (01:39:21):
No, so you've got to.

Speaker 20 (01:39:23):
Blow to start your vehicle. Yeah, and then it goes
off around every ten minutes. Yeah, and you've got to
keep blowing it and be clear otherwise your toast and
it's another ninety bucks to unlock it, and then you
are interlock time starts from scratch.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Wow, so you're add and talking on a banana at
the same time, and things get very great.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
That's a straight tasering holding.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
A banana to your ear and pretending to talk into
a phone. And someone who said just before that's an
interesting one. Thanks to you, call Paul. So what happens?
It must watch? Does it give you a countdown?

Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
You've got twenty seconds to blow into this or else
we're going to shut your vehicle down.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Oh yeah, I said, someone saying that's the girls version
of the Eston Martin that the guy, So that guy's
rung in and said he was driving that anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Currently my costin drives a DBX as well, So maybe
that was that a text from Mike?

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Maybe?

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Would he be courteous on the road. I think he'd
be pretty courteous on the road. Yeah, I don't know.
You park next to him? Yeah, I've never seen him
be uncurteous, but he's a good driver. He's in before
I arrive and out seconds after a show, so I
don't really see him on the roads.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. What are
the great areas of the road rules? This one here
is interesting. What is it worth Ford Ranger drivers? Is
there a sticker on the sun visor telling them they
don't have to give way when the ad comes on
the telly with the guy saying ranger every time they
see one. I substitute it with a word that rhymes

(01:40:50):
with bankers. Seems appropriate from Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
See, I've got a theory in this because we hear
a lot about anti a lot of anti Ford Ranger
rhetoric these days. But I think it's just because it's
been the number one car for so long. I don't
know if it still is, but so long, there's so
many Ford Rangers on the road that just by pure
I mean it'sartistic anomy. They're involved in more dicky to behavior. Yeah,
just because you see so many of them there everywhere,

(01:41:13):
the head ratio, I mean, the ranger, ad ranger, rang, rang, Rangel,
they're everywhere. It's pure mathematics, though, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
Because there's a number of dick kids on the road
and there's a lot of ranges, so that it would
equate to there's going to be some dickids driving ranges.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
You guys, are wrong, says amb But I drive a
range driver and always give way to others or merge
like a zip. I do agree with the current caller
about people giving way unnecessarily on two way roads. It's
a problem I love in christ Church and a lot
of people seem to lack spatial awareness.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
Yeah, fair enough to beautiful cars, range rovers oh e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number to
call coming up. There seems to be a lot of
heat for the way that contabrians are driving. There's another
text here that really lays into christ Church drivers, so
we'll get to that next. It is twenty to four.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Ah christ Chitch drivers the angriest drivers in New Zealand.
Do I seem like an angry driver to year?

Speaker 8 (01:42:00):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
You do well then yes, but in my life and
look this is this is sort of just anecdotal, but
the two biggest road range cidents of been and the
receiving end on have both been in christ Church. We
just don't like to muck around.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Taylor Adams
Afternoons News talks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
Be very good afternoon to you. We are talking about
the gray areas of the road rules. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call now, menship before.
There's been so many tips coming through there. There's quite
a bit of pushback on the way that contabrians drive here.
It is drivers that don't merge like a zip, guys,
I e go one for one. At the most infuriating

(01:42:45):
to me, christ chitch drivers are absolutely appalling. It is
actually the law that you're meant to merge like a zip.
Some people treat it as a suggestion. Look forward to
hearing your thoughts. Yes, christ chitch drivers are some of
the worst in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
From Nick.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Nick Nick nickou doesn't say, just says thanks from Nick
Nick from christ Church. Yeah, isn't there a quite a
well known nick from christ Church?

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
I think so?

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Yeah, this one here is a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
The biggest thing that frustrates me is when people stop
in the middle of the road to let another car
out when there's nothing behind them at all.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
That's a weird one, isn't it. There's also this thing
that happens on the roads that kind of bugs me
when people be overly friendly to the point where it's confusing.
They've got absolute right of way and they signal you
to go, and you're like, no, this is confusing because
I know that you've got right of way, so I
can't really go, and you end up in this kind
of jettery standoff and then you're both signaling to each other.
And it's often someone that doesn't know the rules around

(01:43:44):
stop signs and give way signs, and they're like, oh,
you just go, and you're like, no, but I can't.
I can't pull out because you might just remember it
last minute the road rules and pull out exactly. So
sometimes it's good just to stick to the rules as
they are.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Yeah, because what do they say, be predictable, not polite,
and there's a lot of truth to that on our roads.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Joe, how are you?

Speaker 22 (01:44:04):
Hey, you guys, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Very good? What's your gray area?

Speaker 22 (01:44:08):
My great area is just before you get onto the motorway,
there's like them two to three four lanes sometimes, but
there are those traffic lights that they have, but the
sign seeds one vehicle peer green each lane, So we
all understand that green light things go belight, you need stop.
But due to the sign. I'm for one. I've got

(01:44:29):
it on the fence because the sign seeds one vehicle
called pere green each lane, and sometimes there's like five lights.
So does that mean five cars for each lane can
go on the green signal?

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Or I've always read it as one for one because
the old green light going onto the motorway doesn't stay
green for long.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
But I get your points.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
There's a lot of people just try and squeeze two
cars through or three cars through. And I would never
do that myself, but I'm not gonna get angry at
somebody that does that, you know what I mean. If
they want to sneak through and they're not causing any
any you know, craziness on the road, go for it.

Speaker 22 (01:45:06):
Yeah, I'm all for it. But yeah, they know a
few people. There's few people with the odd finger, you
know when from one.

Speaker 13 (01:45:15):
So yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Does confuse a lot of people, the old green light
going into the motorway. Yeah, but doesn't it normally say
one one at a time?

Speaker 6 (01:45:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:45:24):
I thought it was one per lane. So you got
two lanes going into it, you've got the two green lights. Yeah, yeah,
so it's one per lane, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (01:45:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
I think so, Yeah, that's how I was taking it.
Maybe I've been breaking the law all the time. I
mean the idea is just to break it up so
there's there's gaps in the traffic, right, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
Yeah, yeah, Oh eight hundred and eighteen eighty is the
number to call Mac.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
How are you?

Speaker 20 (01:45:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:45:46):
Good? Matt and Tyler. Interesting topic. I'd have to ask
you both, where does common sense coming to everything you've said?
And I don't have to say that's seriously lacking. If
you're going down a narrow road or up a narrow road,
then you have to be aware of the vehicle coming

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towards you, and surely, goodness you would have a common
sense to take a ways of action to get out
of the way of that vehicle to allow to come
down if you through. And this is probably one of
the biggest problems we have at the moment in New Zealand.
Everyone wants to have their own right away. Well, you know,

(01:46:29):
it's Life's not like that. You have to look at
the situation assess where can you let well, what can
you do in a single lane situation or type parking
situation and let someone go through?

Speaker 6 (01:46:46):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:46:47):
It just.

Speaker 8 (01:46:49):
I think it's one of those things that we all
need to take on board. Take a deep breath and
just let things happen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Good on your mac. I guess that said. I guess
that's why we're talking about it. Yeah, that's what do
you do in that situation. I'm a person that tends
to let people through, yep. But then what happens if
you've got your pregnant partner in your car exactly and
then you're just trying to drive the Friendly Way and
you're letting five of Tyler's numpties through and you have
to you have to force the issue. Yeah, you have

(01:47:20):
to go, well, look, I need to get through here.
I can't. It's not the day to drive the Friendly Way.

Speaker 13 (01:47:25):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
I get I go to get this. I've got to
get this person to the hospital. I've gotta get I
gotta get my message to the hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
So you have this baby, I gotta got to get
on the horn and get aggressive. Thank you very much
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Will take one more call before we're going to place
some messages.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Andrew, how are you.

Speaker 11 (01:47:44):
I've got a good story from my wife, who used
to be a driving instructive and now she's my office lady.
She was at a interstinction where the main road was.
She was being controlled by a sign or a giveaway sign,
as was the opposite spacing traffic on the main road
going straight through, which happens to have what they call

(01:48:06):
a flushed median for riding down the middle of the
road so they can send right into the side street
that she was trying to pull out of. Well, her
student was and there was no one turning right, but
a police officer who was going straight through between these
two opposing the ways of science, whichever they were, came

(01:48:28):
to a complete stop and try to wave to her
student in and just keeps telling your students, do not move,
got on your wa you cannot take that gap because
if you do that during your driver's test, you will
be failed. And the cop just sat there forever, trying

(01:48:49):
to think he was being courteous, trying to wave this
young kid into the fluid.

Speaker 19 (01:48:55):
Was not interesting traffic. And my wife's like, I think
she had brake pedals as well. I think she just
kept we are not going.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Where where have those driving car has gone? That used
to have two steering wheels?

Speaker 19 (01:49:11):
That, yeah, I don't think they've ever I don't remember
ever seeing those here.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
But yeah, I'm on TV.

Speaker 19 (01:49:17):
Pedals engineered by a specialist up the line and they
were incredible, whereas the first step her son, who was
a mechanic, installed those here that she imported from the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
But I could, God, if I was a driving instructor
road what those pedals says for sure. Hey, I've got
a question for you, Andrew. You said she was your
driving instructor, and now she's okay, right right? I thought
I thought, I thought love love might have happened behind
the learner.

Speaker 19 (01:49:48):
On the road and it was off the road, so
she just started focusing on my business.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
Yeah, yeah, but that is I mean, even if a
police officer does that, Andrew and goes back to be
predictable not polite. The old cop was a lovely cop
by the sounds of it, and said, this is a
new driver. I'll just stop in the middle of the
road and let them through.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
But no, I don't do that. But that's a good
one that you just said that. I've never heard that
same before. Be predicted, not polite. That's the thing I
was talking about before. It's so annoying when someone's being
overly polite, but you know that they're in the wrong
and the system would work if they just followed the
rules and we could all just do it. Yeah, but
you're sitting there and there going come through, and it's
like I'm not you know, I'm on a stop. You're
on a good way go.

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
And you can't get that angry because they've been so
nice about it. But just do the right thing, do
what you're meant to do on the road instead of
being so bloody courteous. Catch is a weird thing to say.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
You can't be flashing the middle finger around for someone
that's just being overly curtis exactly courteous.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
It is nine to four, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty's number to call back very shortly. You're listening to
Matton Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
Matt Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons used talks.

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
It be news talks here, b We've been talking about
the gray areas of the road rules, and the text
machine has absolutely exploded.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
A nine two nine two is that number? Driving with
a dog on driver's lap? What about driving wearing large
head shades, blocking pro filled vision? It's talking about gray
areas of driving. Someone was talking about you're not allowed
to drive down the road talking on a phone, but
can you drive down the road talking on a banana.
It's a massive loophole, massive loophole. I mean, I don't
know if there's a rising tide of people that need

(01:51:24):
to be talking to bananas on the way down the road.
But if you want to, I think you can. But
it is odd that that's legal.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
The dog on the lap though, that is it's a
bold choice.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
When has a banana become a phone if you start
putting a headset into it. Yeah, Wellington drivers seem to
treat all rules as open interpretation. They are all on
the opium and pipe in Wellington. That's from Luca good times.
A lot of people in the old school opium pipe
having fun on the opiay, this is talking about those
inhibitors Alkoho inhibitis and cars. You have to five minutes

(01:51:53):
to blow on the inhibitor while driving to give you
the time to pull over safely if you need to.
If you turn the vehicle off before blowing, it's a
breach and you get a month added to your time.
Speaking for a friend. So that was that personal ring
up performance heads and some of those inimitators you have
to inhibitors have to blow every ten minutes yep, And
he was he was asking, well, what's the difference between

(01:52:13):
talking on your phone and blowing into an inhibitor. Sounds
like you've got the opportunity to pull over and blow
into it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
And this one says, can you please tell your listeners
that when they turn, they need to stay in the
nearest lane. They don't get to choose because they are turning.
If there are two lanes, I can turn right at
the same time as oncoming turning left.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Well that's just made the water. I don't even know
what you're talking.

Speaker 13 (01:52:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Yeah, that's really good. And we're running out of time
on the show. Thank you so much for listening everyone.
We've had some great calls and text Matt and Tyler
full show podcast will be out in about an hour.
The Powerful Heather two per clans up next. But Tyler,
why am I playing this song from MGMT?

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
It's called kids?

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
But I actually got no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:52:54):
What. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
We were talking about how events are going to be
easy to put on New Zealand and I saw MT
at a couple of really good festivals of my time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Hice, you got me with that world done, mate, totally
fear that's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
From my own personal experiences. Way you could got it,
but you're giving them too easily. Yeah, love it, Nike,
Thank you so much for listening. See you tomorrow afternoon.
Give me a taste of Kiwi from US blesse.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
Yeah it's Matt Heath and Tyler Adam.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
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