Full Show Podcast: 05 March 2025

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Hello, you got New Zealanders and welcome to the metin
Tyler zib Afternoons full podcast number eighty.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, huge show today.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Just twenty from one hundred.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
What are we going to do one hundred?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I don't know, but I remember when it was one
three and now we've been doing this. This is our
life now, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Jesus gone fast? Isn't it? Are we going to do
a celebration or a physical challenge?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Surely a celebration is celebration for the one hundredth pod,
but that's not that that's still twenty pods away. So
four weeks roughly. So great chat today. It's it started
with groceries and an end and pooh, but this fantastic
chat a record amount of texts and phone calls again,
just fabulous time for the next two three hours. I

(00:59):
hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I had some great chat about milk delivery.

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a joke that he didn't it about it. Got it
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Speaker 1 (01:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:30):
Good afternoon to you. Hope you're having a great day.
Welcome into the show. Seven past one. Get amense, get
a tighter.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
How are you going there?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I just moved my mic. That's but squeaky, isn't it
all right?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know what you know? I play sie absolutely adore
no dog parks.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Are you ended? Dog parks?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Love dog parks.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I go every morning and they are just places of
pure joy. Yeah, Rog's running around, everybody's happy. The weather
was nice this morning. I was just such a happy boy.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Do you I just go on any anywhere with my
dog off leash. I don't care. The whole of the city,
the whole of the country is my dog part. I
don't care. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
But but Colin's pretty much human, isn't it. He knows
the drill where he's very.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well behaved and he's unlikely to be able to do
any damage. Really, Yeah, he's well behaved, empathetic, but yeah,
because I just saw the other day. Yeah, I was
going for a walk up Mount Eden with my dog
and I came down to the bottom and I think
it's taken any reserve. And then there was this dog
park and everyone was behind fences. It looked like they
were in like a correctional facility with their dogs.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, outdoors time.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I was like, you know, to take it.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, will right onto today's show. And this is
going to be a good discussion. Can cinemas survive? Streaming
and costs have been challenging movie theaters for some years.
We know that. But on the back of the Oscars,
a speech by the director of Anura.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah that's Sewan Baker. He issued a heartfelt plea for
people to go back to the cinemas. And the question
is why aren't we going anymore? And are you sad
that theaters are struggling? Are you just happy for a
future where you just watch movies in the lounge on
your streaming platform, And because because personally, I think it's
so much better. If you care about a movie, you

(03:13):
want to go to the movie theater watch it. Yeah,
I went to see Nosferatu and fantastic film.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Raved about that one.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, but I think part of the reason why it
was such a good film to watch was because it
was in a theater, so it was dark and it
was all encompassing. If you know you're watching at home,
half the time, you're on your phone, your kids are
running around, there's there's stuff happening, there's you know, there's
admin to do. Someone vacuums under your feet.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a sad experience watching, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah. For true cinematic art and event pictures, I think
you need to go to the theater. So we'll talk
about that after three.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
After two. There is a problem with horsepool in the
Far North.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, that's right, and you proposed by law would have
horse riders picking up their horse leavings and a far
North woman. Clear, I'm going to say Ganachian, ganatchian, and look,
I was meant to learn how to pronounce that since
I last said it, but I haven't.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
That looks right, Conecchian, You havy with that? Yep, yep. Clear.
If you're listening, we want to talk to you later
on as well.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
If you're listenings a ring. We'll get your name right.
She is opposing it, saying that you should only do
it when it's safe. But I think this is an
example of concept creep. We started worth picking up dog leavings,
and when I was a kid, dog leavings were everywhere.
There was white ones. They were all over the street
at stank it was horrible. It's flies everywhere. It needed
to be sorted out. Yeah, that's right. But you do

(04:36):
something like that that needed to be sorted out. Next thing,
you know, some annoying council person's going, why aren't we
doing that with horse leavings. Horses are vegetarians. It's a
total different type of leaving. It doesn't matter if there's
horse leavings on the side of country roads. It just
doesn't matter. So just I say, let the horses go
where the horses made. There isn't even that many horses.
It's just not an issue to worry about in my opinion.

(04:58):
But I could be wrong. O one hundred and eighteen
eighty nine two nine two.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
We'll get into that after two o'clock. But what if
someone was walking their l packer through the streets of
Fungada and they're not picking up after their olpacker. At
that stage, you'd say, come on, mate, I.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Don't have a problem with vegetarian leavings. Is a totally
different ballpark to a carnival leaving. In the horror of
a dog leaving or a cat leaving, it's just not
even the same substance as a sheep or a horse
or a cow.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
A rabbit on a.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Leash picking up every indimendual little rabbit leaving those little balls.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, maybe right.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think if I see someone anyone that's walking a
rabbit on a leash should be arrested for other reasons.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, they should be tasted straight away. That is after
two o'clock though, because right now we do want to
talk about grocery spend.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yes, so you will have heard the story Pack and Save.
They wouldn't let a woman leave with her one thousand
dollars worth the grocer wrees And this is around twenty
twenty three legislation. Pack and Save couldn't legally businesses that
play GST and obviously Pack and Save is one can't
leave let people leave with more than a thousand dollars.
So they had to. They didn't do it very well.

(06:08):
They didn't explain things very well, and they have apologized.
But what was amazing for me was I'm not surprised
that someone could spend one thousand dollars at a grocery store.
So I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine two.
What is the most you've spent at a grocery store?
Have you hit a thousand?

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
And are you someone that spends that much a week
or are you someone that has cracked the code and
is feeding yourself or your family for an impressibly small
amount of money. So when I see the high rollers
at the supermarket, they are just going in. They don't care,
they're spending six hundred and fifty bucks. Who cares? Just
throw it all in there.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's a heck of a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I have different types of moist mispoisturized, the most expensive shampoo,
going for the tasty cheese.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
When was the last time you spent a thousand bucks
on groceries?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I don't know, but I was thinking the most I
have and recently, and maybe I'll share the details of it,
but recently I spent over six hundred and fifty at
the supermarket. It was one of those things. It was
one of those perfect storm situations when everything need to
be replace.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Toilet ducks and toddler.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Tablets, and the razors and the dish, their closed powder.
What you call that rubbish that you put in with
the in the washing machine, the clean things, I'm not
sure what it's called. Colin's food. Colin's food, dog food
is crazy expective. Now, Yeah, sometimes you can get these
these everything comes together and you need it all at
once moments, and so I think I hit. I think
I hit six seventy a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's up there, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Were
you surprised to see the thousand dollars figure?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
And so this physics is so matt by your thinking
you wouldn't mind a vegetarian human doing their business on
the street. No, no, you.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Got them, Jerry, you got well done.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I draw the line on vegetarian humans.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
If anyone's got the guarts of vegetarian out there to
do that, maybe you give them a pass.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Actually, I think maybe vegetarian leavings are worse than normal leavings.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
We're kind to get into that after two o'clock. But
love to hear from you about your grocery shopping. How
much would you spend on a regular basis? Where are
you're surprised by one thousand bucks? And is is there
anything that you've had to leave out of the trolley? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighties. The number to call
nine two, nine two is the text number. It is
turning past one.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
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Speaker 3 (08:30):
There'd be good afternoon, sixteen past one, and we're talking
about one thousand dollars grocery bill.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I'm just going through the reading out some of the
items from my biggest bill lately, because I could look
it up online and there's some pretty funny items.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Focus.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
This is amazing. You have to read that out to
everybody and the next ten minutes because.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Actually reading it to you, Tyler, is actually humiliating.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I found embarrassing for you.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
What we buy I might be a bit bougie. All right,
welcome to the show. Mark took us through your grocery habits.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Yeah, look, we won't what is mainly online from Woolworths
or counting whatever it's called. Now, ye, and we have
a list, she asked, or you know what do we
all want? So we go just that that and done.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
It's all ordered.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
We've got that, and she doesn't look We don't look
at the total bill. So it's usually between five and
seven hundred dollars a week. Whoa plus plus the cat food.
He's on a sift diet. So I get that from
the debts, which I don't know waked up to be
fifty bucks a.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
Week or something.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So that's that's not just for the two of you,
is that mat No.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
No, there's two kids and two adults.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, okay, And so you don't look at you just
get what you need. You're not looking for savings.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Yeah, we do look at savings. So we don't always
get the top shaft steaks or meats or things like that.
But we don't always go for the cheap budget brand stuff.
So there's some things which I really do like in
terms of you know, I don't want to change a
brand because it's really nice. But there's other things which

(10:20):
I couldn't get less about.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
What would be the most budget will be the most
opulent thing you buy. Mark, if you can think off
the top of your head, what's the thing that you
spend a lot of money on in your supermarket shop?

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Probably my craft beers.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
That'll get up there.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
I used to have, you know, line read as a kid,
but that was pretty horrendous sort of the craft.

Speaker 9 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Do you go for the six pack or the individual bottles?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, it's expects the individual bottles and.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
That is real individual bottles.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, the very style of eighteen ninety five dollars individual bottles. Hey, yeah,
a Mark, So you said you said that you know
it gets up around seven hundred. Is that as high
as it's gone or have you guys ever your family
of four ever gone higher than seven hundred.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
No, it's usually around five to six. So seven has
been an exceptional week where we, let's say, sort of
leading up to Christmas, we might get extra stuff for
friends or snacks or whatever. So that's for the extra
parts for special occasions. But I don't we haven't had
the thousand. That's quite a lot. And if I gid

(11:33):
a couple of dozen beers and the top states and
nice to seafood and prating corns and things like that
the year probably right up.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, there you go, Mark, you're our current you're our
current front runner at seven.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Hundred four people. Yeah, that is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's the current front runner as highest expenditure.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do you ever stress out about the grocery bill?

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I just say that, as you know, when we look
at a thousand dollars and a lot of us weren't
that surprised by getting up to that number. But it
is not something that we as a household stress out about.
Even though if I spent seven hundred bucks on anything,
I'd be stressing out a little about that and thinking
of ways that how can I cut costs or get
there a little bit cheaper. But with groceries, I suppose
it's just something you have to.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Do, right.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, let's say it's more towards the five hundred. There's
a seven hundred is quite an exception. In a seven
hundred dollars week is quite exception, but as usually a
living a five hundred dollars mark. So when a few
years ago when it was three or four hundred, that's
getting up the other yea. Nowadays with a coss a
living blob of you know what we get usually from
three years ago cross us five hund ruck. So yeah, luckily,

(12:41):
and it comes if you.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Could tell you, I mean, if someone from twenty ten
you told them that you were going to spend seven
hundred dollars on on grow sees, they would not believe it.
Absolutely absolutely would not believe that. Thanks so much for
your call. Mark, So he's our front runner. He's saying,
we're not getting exact numbers here, so roughly you don't
have to know exactly, but Mark Mark's at seven hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeap, And that was you know, a one off the Mark.
But that is right up there, guys nudging one thousand bucks.
No worries for the Christmas shop. Yeah, that's a big one,
Thank heavens. It's covered by the Christmas Club savings, remember
the old Christmas Club savings.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
This is some interesting intel how the lady with one
thousand dollars grocery and pack and save was a dairy
owner allegedly, because that is an interesting thing awhere is
sometimes dairy owners go down to the supermarket to buy
products to put in their stores. Yeah, yeah, that does happen.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Is that the only revenue for them getting their groceries
I mentioned that is wow.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, look the texture I just spent. I just spent
six hundred and fifty yesterday. But I hadn't shipped for
groceries since twenty fourth of January. And I freeze milk
and bread and meat, et cetera. But do top up
with veggies and fruit. It's one person house old plus
grandkids in the holidays. Wow, okay, but it hadn't been.
It hadn't been since twenty.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Fourth of jam right, so you know that is out there.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
There's someone that's planning things now.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty How much do you
spend on a regular basis at the supermarket? Were you
surprised by thee thousand dollars figure that was in the
news after this woman was stopped by pack and save
love to hear from your nine two nine two and
coming up very short.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, and can you get up to Mark or close
to Mark's or surpass Mark seven hundred dollars for a
weekly shot?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Come on New Zealand, we can do it. And coming
up very shortly matters going to go line by line
on his very bougie shop.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know if I want to. Now I'm mentally you.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Have to wait. Give us a week teaser. What's what's
the first item?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I get the first the first item, Yes, I don't
want to read that out. Oh, come on, okay, Jerry's
go low carb Keto Buns high protein four pack ten
forty nine.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
What happened to you?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Jerry's super low carb high protein Keito five seventy. I've
got two of those at ten forty nine.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Each man's first two that's the first two lines, all right, oh,
eighties and number to call it is twenty two past one.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike Hosking.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Breakfast News on our believed ferry service administer in chargeable.
This is, of course Winston Peters.

Speaker 10 (15:03):
There's three targets. We're going to be able to announce
who's in the game, lovely printending for and what the
cost will be?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, and is that a timeline to get us the
new ships by the twenty nine target when the other
ones fall apart?

Speaker 10 (15:13):
That's definitely yes. It's appalling that I've had to deal
with because these other aspects shot were trying to do
with the ferry, but also with a shopping decision We
started off in May of twenty twenty when I was
a minister then ordering two fairies for four hundred and
one billion. That's way less than half a bed. I
come back to find at the hend towards over four billion.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
We had to stop it.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Back tomorrow at six am the mic asking breakfast with
May these real Estates News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
News Talk z B. We're talking about the weekly or
bi weekly grocery bill on the bank of a story
where a woman spent a thousand bucks on her regular
grocery shopping and was pulled aside by pack and say
for tax reasons.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We want to
hear about your shopping bill marks the top of head
so far with seven hundred dollars and hey this Texas says,
why would you stop a shopper leaving the supermarket with
paid one thousand dollars worth of grocer That is because
it wasn't pack and Safe's fault. They have to if
you're a GSD Regis's business, of course they are. Twenty

(16:15):
twenty three legislation says that you have to get certain
details email phone number, certain details of anyone spending one
thousand dollars in any store. And that's around stopping money
laundering where people would just have a whole lot of
legal cash to go and buy a bunch of TVs
or buy a bunch of stuff and then sell it
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, and that was born in at a time that
no one was spending a thousand bucks on groceries. But
I went undred eighty ten eighties and number to call.
Hey you, Linda, Hi, Hi, Hi, nice to speak with you.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So, Lin, do you think a thousand dollars would be
easily doable?

Speaker 11 (16:49):
Well, when I was working, I used to do a
monthly shop or a two weekly shop, so could easily
come to one thousand dollars. Now I'm not working, I well,
you know, we can part time. I just go and
do little shops, but they can come to about four
hundred and fifty dollars because I'm feeding four adults. Yeah,

(17:09):
and we don't need many takeaways. We're just you know,
it's all ingredients types of stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
When you say four adults, you got is that two
adults and two kids kind of situation? But grown up kids?

Speaker 11 (17:20):
Yeah, grown up kids?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
How old are the kids? If you don't mind me asking.

Speaker 12 (17:23):
Linda and the twenties.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh okay, right, because I've got two teenage boys at home,
and boy can they eat absolutely inc Yeah, And what
would be the big the big cost for that weekly
grocery shop.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Would it be the meat or is it kind of
the incidentals?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
No.

Speaker 11 (17:43):
I like to buy decent food because I think it's
it's better just eat properly and stay away from the
doctor and keep healthy. So I'd rather spend the money
on food rather than health bills. And like I like
to get you know, some Tierra tea for us to
wall and some decent cuts of meat, and you know,
I try to go to places wholesale places as well,

(18:06):
and markets and things to cut on the bill. But
I still don't like to compromise too much on getting
really you know, creepy stuff. And I try to cocky
decent meal rather than get packets.

Speaker 13 (18:19):
Of stuff and.

Speaker 11 (18:21):
You know, the stuff from the middle of the shop
basically stay away from it.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah right, yeah, I mean, is it possible go to
supermarket just go down the vigie aisle and then along
the back past the meat aisle, and then get the
bread and eggs and get out of their life and
that's the way to do.

Speaker 11 (18:38):
It, right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't buy many cans
and you know, definitely no packet food and things. I
spent quite a lot at the market actually getting fresh food.
So and I noticed that the markets put all their
prices down on Saturday for the fresh fruit and produced
to cater for the markets.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
So what do so that you say the supermarkets lowered
their their vigial prices to stop people going to markets.

Speaker 11 (19:05):
Oh yeah, cheaper key bastards.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
So when you say, when you say what you spend Linda,
but you spend money elsewhere, do you ever do the
add up of everything you spend in terms of food
Because a lot of people are texting and saying no
one seems to be counting the alcohol costs that they
have in there as well. But do you do you
count the supermarket cost that you're going to through farmers'
markets and you're buying bottles of wine?

Speaker 11 (19:29):
Probably, yeah, I probably need to count it all. We
don't really drink very much or smoke it all, so
it's mainly just food. Yeah, I probably need to add
it all up.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
Yeah, it just comes to a bit, doesn't it. Because
so darn expenser.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 11 (19:47):
It's definitely cheaper if I shop at the markets, absolutely cheaper,
and it also dictates what meals I'm going to have
for the week. Yeah, so you know I can clean
it better. But when I was when I was working,
I couldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I just didn't have the time.

Speaker 11 (20:02):
Two weekly shops or monthly shops and put it all
in the freezer because I just simply didn't have the time.
So you could easily spend I mean, you know that
person might have been a dairy owner, but if someone
did a monthly shop, because easily stand a thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, thank you for your call, Linda.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Good point about the farmer's market. So is I need
to go more often to the farmer's market. I'm too
bloom and lazy and I'll put my hand up for that.
But butchers, you know, I've noticed noticed there's a lot
of very good butchers around where we are in Mount
Wellington and Auckland, and I need to step up and
go to those butchers because quite often they are cheaper,
better cuts of meat. You're looking after the local economy.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, yeah, and it's actually fun doing that. I've discovered
and I never thought i'd say this, but just sort
of wandering around on a Sunday, buying things from different places,
maybe going to a farmer's market more likely a Saturday,
but wandering around. It's pretty good. And I think I
was say on the show, I went to the Cleveland
farm and farmers Market. Yeah, last weekend, I.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Think fell in love with Buffalo's.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, fell in love with Buffalo Buffalo milk, Buffalo cheese.
But something so cool about buying eggs off the person
who has the hens that laid the eggs, and buying
the meat off the person that grew the meat, and
buying the wine off the wine makers. All that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Feel good.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
That feels good.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
It does feels real.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It feels like you're a real human being. Okay, I've
got a fun question for your fun fact.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Right here we go to.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Ninety two is the number for your guesses and the
correct If you get the question correct, you will win
no prize, but you'll win the respect and admiration of
your peers. All right, what is the most popular vegetable
in New Zealand?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Great question, Now that.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Is our favorite vegetable in our fine country. Now, normally
I answer, but I'm not going to answer this time.
I'm going to write it down.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
But if you think you know, nine to ninety two.
So I've written down my answer and we'll see I
reckon I right. Oh one eighty ten eighty is the
number to call though, love to hear from you. And
just as the side topic there about shopping at farmers'
markets or butchers or the local grocer, you know the

(22:10):
vegi grosser. Is that something that you have actively tried
to do as the cost of living his starts cheap?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is that actually cheaper? It's more fun, but is it
actually cheaper? Yep, it's more wholesome, but is it actually cheaper?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Love to hear from you?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, and can someone be mark on seven hundred bucks?
That's the that's the highest weekly shop we've got going.
And that's for a family of four.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties. The number to
call it is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 3 (23:54):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean and we're talking about
the average weekly grocery bill.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, O, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. This is
on the back of a woman being stopped by one
thousand dollars worth of groceries a pack and save. Turns
out there's a twenty twenty three law which means that
you have to big give details if you can leave
a store with one thousand dollars if peck can stay
have stopped it. They didn't get quite right, but they
have apologized. But this peaked our interest because I wasn't
that surprised that someone could spend one thousand dollars at

(24:21):
at at the groceries, at the at the store, at
the supermarket, and our highest spender so far as mark
On seven hundred dollars for a weekly shop for four people. Yeah,
for four people, so it's up there. I wait, one
hundred eighty ten eighty, What are you spending at the
grocery store? What hacks have you got for spending less?
Or do you not care? And have you broken the
a thousand dollar mark? Before the break, I asked what's

(24:43):
New Zealand's most popular vegetable? And the text machine exploded
with people texting potato Jaane says potato, Tim says potato.
Troy SE's potato. Hundreds of people say potatoes. There's a
bunch of people saying broccoli is our most Broccoli is
not our favorite as a.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean, Rockley's pretty good, but it's not the favorite.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
We should eat broccoli, but it's gross.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Onion. Onion would be up there, sure.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Onions, Yeah, you need onions and a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Carrots, cabbage, who's the cabbage. It's not the sixties anymore.
Cut out with your cabbage now. I wrote down my
answer so you can see it right there. I said,
pumpkin Is that you're writing? Oh, come on, mate, Jesus
is a.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Pumpkin or not? Is that an Arabic? What is that?

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Do I need to take a picture of this and
just put it on the Facebook page? So is it pumpkin?
Pumpkin must be right up there.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, Once again, you're miles off tomatoes and New Zealand's
favorite vegetable. Statistics New Zealand Householdier Company survey also found
that bananas our most popular fruit. New Zealand has spent
one hundred and eleven million dollars on bananas a year
and ninety six million dollars on tomatoes. That's interesting. I
mean a lot of people think tomatoes a fruit, but

(25:54):
it's a vegetable. Yeah controversial, Yeah, but tomatoes. So what
do we using tomatoes in sandwiches, salads, pasta. I mean
we're using a lot of them. The top ten vegetables
are in New Zealand mats, potatoes, lettuce, shrooms, carrots, capsicans, broccoli, yeah,

(26:19):
cumera yeah, onions, and in cucumbers.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
So capsicans above pumpkin. I I'm going to go to
Statistics New Zealand and just question. I am in touch
with the common man. Everybody's eating pumpkins. They were cheap,
a nice butternut pumpkins. Yeah, roasted up delicious.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Anyway, let's give big contract Karen, your thoughts on grocery bills.

Speaker 15 (26:44):
Grocery bills? Okay, So I was just putting another eded.

Speaker 13 (26:49):
Thought to that.

Speaker 15 (26:49):
I actually live in Monmonui and Pekin Save the Pekin
Save is actually one of my shops. It's kind of
kind of a messy situation because I wouldn't have been
aware of that laws and we are rural, and we
only get paid monthly, and I did used to only

(27:11):
shop monthly. We used to go in and do a
monthly shop. I now shot more often because I'm in
town more often. But it's nothing for me to go
through the checkout and clock up four ninety three four
ninety seven per grocery shop.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Have you ever got up near the one thousand.

Speaker 15 (27:33):
Frequently when we were shopping monthly?

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (27:36):
Right now, I've broken it down because I'm in town
more often. One thousand dollars really doesn't surprise me. What
does surprise me is that the idea has come out
and said that that is actually law. It wasn't something
that I knew, and to be fair, I think it
was probably really poorly handled by the stuff. I mean, yes,

(28:00):
I've apologized, but to be put in that woman's situation,
to be standing there and nobody'd been able to give
you an answer, I mean, it was rough on here.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I guess the thing that the good news for you
is if you're willing to give over your email address
with some form of contact, then you can leave with
the one thousand dollars with the product.

Speaker 15 (28:19):
But was it was it just that they were asked?
I got the impression that the woman was kind of
really thrilled. About it. But but getting back.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
To the I don't think they I don't think they
handled it well. Handled it well, that's for sure.

Speaker 15 (28:33):
No, I mean, but getting back to the thousand dollars,
it really would not be hard. You're feeding a larger
family with the meat and even try something in there,
a bag of cat biscuits a lot a reason, you know,
like a small bag of cats up over fifty bucks.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, and once you start getting your you're dishwashing tablets
in there, you know, your your washing machine power fifty bucks.

Speaker 15 (28:58):
Yeah, if you buy a bigger packet, you know. And
it's like so a lot of people do try to
buy and bulk these days because it's more economical not
to travel and not to spend the guess and to
do it in bulk. But you know, it's just the incentive.
I mean, I guess now for everyone else, this is
highlighted as actually a law, so people will break their

(29:21):
shops down so they don't have to go through the
same situation.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, cares for your call, Karen, Yeah, very good. Just
stand by.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
This is news Talks the breaking news.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, this is big news and breaking news. New Zealand's
Reserve Bank governor Adrian Or. He has resigned and we'll
finish at the end of the month. He was first
appointed in March twenty eighteen and says it has been
a privilege to lead the institution. So just repeating that
New Zealand's Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Or has resigned and
we'll finish at the end of the month. That seems unusual.

(29:56):
I'm sure there will be more to come out of
that story. Is at the end of his term?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
That seems like a pretty quick turnaround.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, we may see.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
It's absolutely not the end of his term. No, he
was signed up for a long time, just before Grant
Robertson left.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, we may. There'd certainly be more on that story
in the two o'clock news, and we may try and
have a chat to Liam Dan a little bit later
in the show as well.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
There's a lot of people that have been pretty angry
at Adrian Ow's, you know, operations at the Reserve Bank.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
So yeah, right, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty bank
to what you spend at the grocery store on a
weekly basis, What is the top spend at the moment,
I think it's still mark on seven hundred bucks for
four people.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, that's for one week. So you know, we've had Karen,
who might spend one thousand dollars for a monthly shop.
You can understand that that comes down to two hundred
and fifty dollars. Yeah, you know, but the tops one
week spend is seven hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
It's impressive planning out for a month.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Our issue isn't the weekly two hundred and fifty dollars shop.
It's the three extra shops at eighty dollars, a pot
for stuff we've forgotten, wine, et cetera. That's the problem,
you see. Yeah, that's what I was That's what I
was saying before. You know, you if you add up
all the things you buy, like all the amount you
spend on food, because you might both groceries, groceries, one
of those three grocery that sounds good. That's an idea
waiting to happen. That's like the man shake groceries.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
I'm going to write that down and steal that idea. Groceries.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
But then, you know, you go to the bottle store
a couple of times a week, you're buying some lunches
at work. Yeah, you maybe go down to the diary
because you need a couple of other things, and then
you're and then maybe you're seven hundred dollars shot, Mark
might be up round one thousand.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
And are you really forgetting it? Or you just get
a bit of a sweet tooth after dinner and said
I just need some cake and hit down then one
hundred and eighty ten eighties number of cool It is
sixteen to two.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, and I've decided not to read out any more details.
Come on more, my six hundred and fifty dollars shop.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Can we can we have two more? Three more? Three more?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Okay, I'll give you three more lines, all.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
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Speaker 3 (32:05):
Sa'd be very good. After noon to you, thirteen to two.
A few more ticks on the how much you spend
at the grocery store on a weekly basis? This one says, guys,
they say the grocer store is getting expensive, but you
should talk about the tuck shop. They are crazy expensive

(32:26):
these days. Love your show. Steve from Invercargo.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Thanks Steve from Mvercargo. Hey, guys, I get paid monthly
and would easily spend one thousand dollars a month. They
used to only shop monthly being raw, but shot more
often now cripes. My budget is two hundred and fifty
per week. There you go. Okay. Regarding people spending way
too much often at the supermarket, they need to go
to Costco's by carefully. It's half the price with the

(32:50):
more volume.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Have you ever been to Costco?

Speaker 14 (32:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I never been to Costco.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
No.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I got a mental block on Costco after everyone got
too excited and started lining up and talking about it
too much.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
We did lose our minds on Costco on the first
day of opening. Now, just before we go back to
the phones, you mentioned you were going to give a
couple more lines on your latest grocery shop.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
This is a six hundred five fifty dollars shop that
I did a few a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, okay, for.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Four people, including two very hungry boys.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah yeah, a few more lines. Yeah okay.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
So we like the jerries and you've got a bit
of support on the Jerry's products.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
So Jerriies go low carb Keto buns, high protein four
pack Jerryes super Bread, low carb. I guess I have
to just read down the list, please editor, Low carb protein,
Keto five seventy gram, Plowman's Bakery, toast bread, country grains.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Oh, that's middle of the oath. Plowman's is good, but
not that good.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Cream Fresh three hundred miles anchor protein, milk light, two
letter bottle, Farmland hot beef, thin sliced sounds nice, fresh
and fruity, yogurt, Feta cheese, creamy Greek sky so Tiger
meal maker. You go, this is all pretty.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Started off bougie. And then I think that's pretty in
touch with the common man. As you went the study,
go south.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Fresh avocados, apples, bananas, tomatoes, more tomatoes, excently by broccoli, capsicum, pumpkin.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
There you gath.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Rooms, cause yet look at this, hang on a minute,
straight up line, coleslaw, baby spinach. This is normal stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Just back to the avocado. You didn't say free sh
avocado before you said pre ripened avocado that you've got
to buy a premium for.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I have got there. There's also fresh avocado and pre
bribin Macro free range New Zealand. Chicken thighs, Macro free
range New Zealand, dice chicken, plant chicken something, New Zealand beef,
mince grass New Zealand, New Zealand, lamb shoulder.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Chops, beautiful sausages. This is good, patriotic, Yeah, I take
it back.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Some frozen prawns start.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
It off with. But you're bringing it back sold.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Of the earth me and we go into the chocolate
and sweet Sexien, Mexicano chips, bluebird chips coming through black currants.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
This is good stuff or flavor chips.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Peso luxury toilet paper.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I knew you'd be you'd be a Peso man quist.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Peanut butter cups. Is this is? I'm a ges I
won't read that personal care stuff out shocking shocking stuff there?
Who got that on the on the tillar around?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Oh yeah no, don't read that. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
The fifty to fifty I'll give you on that one. Right,
Let's go to the phones. Matthew, how are you?

Speaker 14 (35:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Hi?

Speaker 7 (35:21):
There you go?

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Good?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Thanks?

Speaker 8 (35:22):
Hey, I just go.

Speaker 12 (35:24):
There's obviously more to this. Was this woman paying in cash?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Good question, I'm not I'm not sure if she is
paying in cash.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
But I think, yeah, I mean that the law just
states and it's to stop money laundering. I believe the
twenty twenty three law that just states over one thousand dollars.
I think no matter how you pay over one thousand dollars,
you have to leave some details.

Speaker 16 (35:46):
Yeah, well we've.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
We've we've just moved house and so we've been there's
been a few expenses that are over one thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (35:55):
I did on.

Speaker 12 (35:55):
Yesterday for a single item at Bunnings, and they as
from the telephone number and name and telephone number, and
I didn't think anything of it.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean that that is that
is the but that was sort of missing from the
story here. Why she was so reticent to hand over
an email address. I think it only has to be
an email address or a telephone number.

Speaker 12 (36:17):
Yeah, So I think there's a little bit more to it.
And was there a language varying difference between the two people?
Did that not help?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (36:29):
I think I think probably what it is is that
you know, you go to Bunnings, you go to nole Evings,
you don't think anything of it, but you don't expect
it at the supermarket.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, and I think there has been some kind of
miscommunication there and misunderstanding on what is actually happening, because
surely you wouldn't mind just handing over you your starts
to take your email address. I mean, we hand it
over to everything. I mean, I wonder if she's on
social media, you're handing over all your information.

Speaker 12 (36:56):
There because because why, I thought it must have been
cash because you play with the credit card that you
they don't even have to ask.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, do you know what, Matthew, This actually makes me
less annoyed when I'm buying stuff over a thousand dollars
that are you know, at a you know, an appliance
store or whatever it is. That because because when they
asked me for my email address or something like that,
I always thought they were just fishing to hassle me with,
you know, emails to sell products and stuff. But actually,
now that I know they have to do it, then

(37:24):
they have such a big deal. That's not such a
big deal, you know, but they still will punishing emails
about about savings.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, don't worry about that, Matthew. Thank you very much,
very good points. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is
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Speaker 3 (37:53):
B News Talks It BE. Thank you very much for
all the techs and phone calls about the grocery bill.
Plenty came through the winner. In terms of the most
expensive weekly grocery bill.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
There's this person here, high family of five including three
teenagers and two pets, grocery bill each week eight hundred dollars,
usually two shops a week, So that's our number one,
all right. We didn't get anyone that was doing one
thousand dollars a week, but that's only a matter of time, people,
don't you worry? Exactly you worry. It's only a couple
of years before people will regularly, regularly be paying a
thousand dollars a week. And maybe it's adrian Or's fault.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Maybe. And speaking of Adriane Or, as we heard a
little while ago breaking news that adrian Or is stepping
down at the end of the month. As Reserve Bank governors.
So we're going to open up the phone lines and
the text on Adrian Or. How did you feel about
his tenure as Reserve Bank governor? A governor very turbulent.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, that's right, and there's been accusations that he was
too slow and too slow to curb inflation and then
and then absolutely squashed the economy. Yeah, so you know.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Something very suspicious about wrapping up in a month's time.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
How much notice do you have to give?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, as the Reserve Bank governor?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
No, but how much in your job here?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Oh, in my job, hopefully a month month would be nice.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
A month seems very short for a person that's on
eight hundred thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Absolutely well, he hasn't seen out his tenure, so he's
reading it up early.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
He got signed up real good by Grant Robertson before
he left.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
When he chatted with Mike was it last week or
the week before? He sounded very very chipper for Adrian
Or because he can be a prickly man, and maybe
he knew.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Then that he was actuallyow.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, wrapping it all up. But love to hear from you,
Adrian Or, how would you rate his tenure as Reserve
Bank Governor.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
One hundred eighty ten eighty or nine the text number.
And I think we've got Barry so Boud to talk
about Adrian or just after the.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
News talking with you all afternoon. It's mad Heathen Adams

(40:09):
Afternoon with the Volvo XC nineteen News Talks n.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
B Good afternoon, right, big news, last hour. Adrian noy
He is stepping down as Reserve Bank Governor at the
end of the month. He made the announcement today, four
years before the end of his second five year term.
To discuss further, we're joined by senior political correspondent Barry
so big Ya Barry.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Good afternoon, lad. It's nice to be here, Barry.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
A month's notice that seems very short and dramatic. Any
word of fees being pushed or leaving or what's going.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
That's always the question, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (40:42):
Well, the thing is, I think he would have been
contemplating his future from the time that.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
National won the election.

Speaker 17 (40:49):
And to come to that conclusion is pretty easy because
when he was reappointed to the job by Grant Robertson
in twenty twenty two, you know, a five year appointment
a year after from an election, which was really unusual
because Grant Robertson knew quite forcefully from Nikola Willison others

(41:12):
that they didn't want Adrian Or reappointed. Nevertheless, I think
it was his final finger to the National Party.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
There was a spike appointment as opposed to he thought
that Adrian Oil was the best person.

Speaker 17 (41:25):
Well, I think mistakenly Labor did think Adrian Or was
doing the right thing. I mean, Adrian Or was quite
public as more like a farmer. I always thought that
a leading banker. But he publicly said that he was
going to engineer a recession.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
While he most certainly did that.

Speaker 17 (41:41):
He used the ocr against the economy like a firing squad,
because it was all over the place, going mainly in
the wrong direction, going up, and sucking so much money
out of the economy that nobody had much to spend.
Needless to say, those on mortgage interest rates the ones

(42:02):
that suffered the most, but so did business and the
rest of it. So he drove musical and into a recession.
And that's what the power of a reserve bank governor
is separate from the government. Statutorily, they're separate, but you know,
I think there should be more inclusion from the Reserve
Bank and the beehive.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Across the road.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yes, so we essentially had the hardest landing in the OECD. Right,
how much responsibility is that on the Reserve Oh totally.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
But don't forget.

Speaker 17 (42:36):
He works to a committee as well, So when they
decide on the ocr and what it's going to be,
the Committee of infinite wisdom sits around and decides what's
likely to happen in the economy a minutes. You know,
economics says we all know is a very inexact science,
and so you can only take a punt like the
rest of us. But this Adrena wall Or was much

(42:59):
more deliberate when it came to the economy. He believed
that he had his finger on the pulse and printing
money was sort of out of control. The government's spend
was out of control, and that allowed them to spend
the way they did. So look, there's a lot resting
on Adrian Or's shoulders. In a personal sense, Adrian all

(43:23):
was quite a nice block. I mean, before he got
these lofty positions. I remember having a lovely dinner at
the White House in Wellington, very expensive restaurant, with another
bank of mate of mine, from New York and tasted
one of the best bottles of wine. I remember with
Adrian that night, But from then on in he became

(43:44):
more and more elusive when it came to journo's and so,
having known him years ago, I really don't know the
man that I had dinner with that night.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Do you think the writing has been on the wolf
for some time? Barry? I remember when he was on
with Mike on the Breakfast Show, I think two weeks ago.
He sat a very chip, a very happy, very jovial,
very different from the prickly persona that we've come to
know of Adrian.

Speaker 17 (44:07):
In fact, listen to that interview, and like you, I thought, goodness,
gracious me, old Adrian. He really thinks he's on top
of all this now, and indeed the economy is starting
to go in the right way. So it maybe that
Adrian thought, well, I've done the job. You've got to remember,
this man came from a very lofty job at the

(44:29):
Superannuation Fund, earning well an excess of what he earned
at the Reserve Banks.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
What did he end at the Reserve Banks About eight
hundred thousand, eight hundred K. Yeah, So if he's jumping
his contract two years early. Then he's arguably dropping one
point six million out of his earnings.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 17 (44:47):
And but he dropped from well over a million at
the Superannuation Fund to coming into that job. So clearly
he felt that he had a mission to fulfill. He
fulfilled it in the way that he thought was better
for New Zealand. But as it turns out, we all
know now and it's easy with hindsight, the decisions he

(45:09):
made will go down in history, will be the decisions
that really sunk this economy, and now we're fighting to
get out of that.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
So what happens with the Reserve Bank governor position? Now
I know the Deputy Christian Hawksby has taken over for
the time being. Then will there be an appointment made
in due course?

Speaker 6 (45:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (45:26):
What happens is that the Board of the Reserve Bank
they will consider names though it'll no doubt be I
would imagine advertised internationally for this job.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
And then the.

Speaker 17 (45:41):
Recommendation has made to the Finance Minister, the Finance Minister
signs it off. So there will be a committee the
kitchen cabin to the National Party. They'll meet and they'll
decide on a governor. Even though they're meant to be
independent of the government, a political these decisions are always
a bit more political than what we're led to believe.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And Adrina has been on a hiring blitz, hasn'ty over
those time in the reserve, the Reserve all the public
there's huge, huge amounts of people working there that were
working there before he was there exactly. So they could
be an interesting position if National put a new a
new boss, a new GARV that goes, maybe we don't

(46:23):
need all these people just to move.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
One number up and gone, Brush. I'm sure you'd love to.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
That would be a great phoenix from that on the flames.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Absolutely final one for you, Barry. Out of ten, what
would your rate Adrian or as a reserve bank go?

Speaker 17 (46:37):
Oh, he had a hell of a time and the
COVID thing didn't make it easy for him.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
I'd give him the.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Five five for five yep, General right.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I feel like there's a begrudging five.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Barry. Always good to see you, Thank you very much
for coming in. That is senior political correspondent Barry, so
bad and we want your thoughts on this one. I wait,
hundred eighty ten eighty, what would you rank Adrian or
out of ten. I think poor old Adrian's going to
get an absolute battering over the next forty five minutes
or so.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, well, it'll be interesting. Just looking at the text machine,
it's going one way at the moment. But did you
love Adrian Oren? Did you love the way he he
landed the plane after COVID Yes?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
So one hundred eighty ten eighty, And hopefully very shortly
we're going to have a catch up with Brad Olsen
as one of the infoment tricks.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
He actually, to be fair, we're probably still circling the
airport when it comes to that, aren't we.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Yeah, nineteen nine two is the text number. It is
fourteen past two.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
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Speaker 18 (47:43):
Said, be.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Good afternoon, sixteen past two. So we want to hear
from you how you felt about Adrian Or's tenure as
Reserve Bank governor. If you want to rate them out
of ten, that's a nice easy thing to do. We'd
love to hear from you. Oh, one hundred and.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Eighty ten eighty. He's finished and it will be out
in a month. He's given a month's notice. He was
appointed in March twenty eighteen, and then appointed for another
five years, but controversially by Grant Robertson and end of
time twenty twenty one for five years. So he's hungover
to the next government. So a flurry of texts coming
through on nine two nine two. So let's get stuck

(48:17):
in there.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Hooray.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
But how does the hold so much power?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
He seems untouchable, well ordinarily, but he's been maybe pushed
out for this new coalition. Hey guys, I've just heard
the news about Adrian or best news I've heard all year.
I'm literally attempting a backflip. Good riddans. Will you be
careful with that?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Adrian Or gets a B minus on the one to
ten scale. That's from John.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
B minus isn't too bad. If a C is a pass,
be minus is pretty good. Guys. Eight hundred thousand dollars
a year to be the Reserve Bank governor, That is
chump changed to what Mike Coskins, he.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Will be known as the worst RBG. Ever, how do
you know that he didn't resign for health reasons. We don't.
We haven't made any speculation at all about what he
has resigned. We've just said that he has resigned for
a month. Maybe he's been pushed, Maybe he's decided he
wanted to do other things. Maybe he thinks his work
here is done and he wants to go on to
other things. Maybe it is health reasons.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
We don't know yet, Sarah says Matt and Tyler. This
is great the resignation aka push, Just like Sarah fit
from Farmac. This is the national purging of the woke left.
Better be good people to step in watch this space.
There will be more before the end of March.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Okay, almost as happy to see or go as I
was when scumbag Cindy bug it off after ruining the country.
So there's a bit of that coming through as well.
In or worst Reserve governor ever, didn't understand inevitable connection
between quantitive easing and inflation, didn't listen to advice. He
was Robertson's puppet. That's from Wayne, So it's we're not

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seeing a lot of love for Adrian or in the
from the text machine on nine two ninety two or
the phones on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Yeah,
and we did have the hardest landing of any of
the countries in the oecd H after COVID. So whether
that's one hundred percent his fault or not, it's got

(50:20):
to be partially his fault.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Definitely. Well, that's it, right, is that clearly there was
some strategic decisions made and mistakes made at the Reserve
Bank and under his leadership, but he was on a
hiding to nothing, right. I mean, all reserve bank governors
or heads of the Federal Reserve, or those who are
charged with the financial system of whatever country, all of

(50:42):
them have been criticized pretty heavily. I can't think of
one country and one leader in that position that has
got a glowing recommendation that they did a fantastic job
coming out of COVID and all the rest of it.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, although you've got to say the United States seem
to deal with it a bit better.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
They had the soft landing that we all wanted and
we just didn't get.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
If I compared his performance to what mine would have been,
I would give him eleven out of ten. That's from James.
So James doesn't rate himself as a Reserve Bank govern
but you know, no one's asked you to do the
job yet.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
James and Ray. I rate him a three point two
five out of ten, but I'm targeting at least five
points lower in the year term from Ray. Very good.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, that's some good humor from Ray.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Like that right.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Coming up very shortly, we're gonna have a chance to
Brad Olsen you you know him well, CEO of Infometrics
and he's been across Adrian Law's tenure over the past
seven years. So we're going to break it down on
what his legacy will be. And we're two from here.
That is coming up very shortly. It is twenty past two.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Matt Heathan Tyler Adams Afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Good afternoon, twenty two past two. And as we've been
discussing Adrian Or he is stepping down as Reserve Band
governor at the end of this month. He made the
announcement today, four years before the end of his second
five year term. To discuss further, we're joined by Brad
Olson c of It some metrics get a brand.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Good afternoon now, Brad. It has been said that the
Reserve Bank and Adrian who were created crisis by moving
too slowly and then had to engineer a recession to
deal with that mistake? Is that there and if so,
when did the reserve banks start making mistakes?

Speaker 19 (52:29):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (52:29):
I think look that have certainly been criticisms over time,
and hindsight is a little bit twenty twenty in terms
of moving too so on, probably both up and the downside.
I mean you look through parts of twenty twenty one
and inflation was clearly getting going much quicker than the
Reserve Bank at the time picked up on we were
looking at the numbers just before, and inflation over the

(52:52):
governor's tenure has been above three percent, so effectively outside
of the band.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Now.

Speaker 8 (52:56):
Yes, there's been a lot of global factors in that
as well, but certainly a challenging time on the inflation front,
and I don't think that the Reserve Bank's sort of
ability to get inflat under control, and certainly the confidence
in the market has been as under pressure as in
recent years. But in fairness, inflation is now back under control,

(53:16):
so at the very least, you know, the reserve banks
inflation fighting credentials are a bit more back than before.
I mean look to be honest, So guys, I mean
that this was still we're a bit stunned by how
quickly this has come about. I mean, it looks like
the government is effective immediately, almost not working, given that
there'd be no reason to point an acting governor until

(53:37):
the end of the month if he was going to
keep going. So this is super out of the blue.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
And so do you think this is a political push
out the door or the governor himself made this decision?
How do you read that? Brad, It's a difficult one.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
I know everything I've seen so far, and you know,
we're still trying to wrap half our heads around what's
going on. It does seem to be much more driven
by Adrian Law personally, and that I think is the
way that it should be. Almost no matter what, the
government of the day can't shouldn't have any real influence

(54:14):
over that. And so the discussion looks like from the
public reporting that we've seen so far, has been more
between the board and the outgoing governor. That's appropriate, I
guess sort of. It would be an unusual time for
there to feel like there was any political pressure as well.
You know, interest rates are coming down, if there was
going to be political pressure from you know, a new government,

(54:36):
and there shouldn't be, but if there was, it would
presumably be when the new government came in rather than
a year and a bit after. So it's a little
bit hard to wrap your head around that place that
I'm sitting in at the moment.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, when you talk about politics, would it be safe
to say that Grant Robertson dunt Adrian Or on the
new government? And if that's the case, what did Grant
Robertson think that Adrian Or could do for the economy
that a replacement couldn't.

Speaker 8 (55:04):
Look I think at the time when the governor was reappointed,
I think it was sort of an unsavory peererod of politicking,
putting the Reserve Bank and the governor themselves aside for
a moment. You know, the expectation is that there is
you know, discussion and sort of at least tacit agreement
for a governor appointment, and that's generally happened over time,

(55:25):
and I know that. You know, when we last had
Adrian Or appointed for his extended term, it wasn't with
agreement from the then opposition. That was nothing personal against him.
There was just a difference of view, and so the
fact that that appointment went through with political disagreement, I
think that that hampered, you know, the idea of political

(55:47):
neutrality on the Reserve Bank at the time. I don't
think there's any caste dispersions at the moment, but like
I say, I mean, I think it's unhelpful when politicians meddle,
and at that point Robertson as Finance Minister had meddled.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
In my view, he's had a lot of criticism over
his tenure. Bread does he deserve and the wider Reserve
Bank do they deserve some sympathy with what they had
to deal with.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
Oh, there's obviously been a lot of challenges that were
completely out of their control that they had to blind
react to. But in fairness, that's also the job that's
we don't appoint the Reserve Bank, you know, governor and
the board to sort of just manage through business as usual.
That they have to be able to respond to whatever
gets thrown at them and to be fair, Look again,

(56:36):
things you know, criticisms have been around the Reserve Bank,
sometimes too slow, but today we have inflation that's at
two point two percent is the latest measured figure almost
as close as you can get with a bit of
normal variation to the midpoint of that one point one
to three percent target that the Reserve Bank has taskworth.

(56:56):
So at the moment things are in a bet of spot. Yes,
there have been.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
A lot of challenges.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
You look like the Russian invasion of Ukraine which sends
fuel prices going higher. You look at the general supply
shop from the pandemic, All of that was very much there.
But I think with again hindsight, you look back at
particularly twenty twenty one and go, well, actually, the economy
was clearly starting to build up a head of steam
at that point. It wasn't as much need to massively

(57:25):
stimulate the economy. We kept doing so, and that certainly
contributed to where we got with inflation. Not the only response,
but it wasn't helpful either.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, and it does look like we had one of
the worst you know landings, as we've been saying in
the OECD, So you know, we didn't get everything right.
Now there's a lot of texts coming through saying, you know,
blaming Adrian or for the quantitive easing of the last government.
But what role does the Reserve Bank have and quantitive easing.

Speaker 8 (57:53):
Well, I think that that's sort of the challenge. Yes,
the government had to borrow a lot, the Reserve Bank
didn't have to buy it all. There was certainly a
need to keep the market functioning, and so the Reserve
Bank has in the past and certainly did during COVID
have to go in and buy some stuff and sell
some stuff to sort of keep the pipes moving. When
it came to you know, bond activity and all that

(58:15):
sort of thing, that was definitely true. The Zero Bank also,
for the first time in monetary policy history in New
Zealand at least, took a very definitive view that actually
it was going to do more of that, with a
deliberate view to using that to influence monetary policy, to
influence interest rates, to influence you know, how easy or
not the economy had a path in front of it.

(58:35):
So that was a deliberate choice. It happened certainly, very rapidly,
and I don't know if we've fully come to grips
with how that changed the game and what it would
mean for the future. So I do think again there's
questions to be asked, but to be fair, and I
think probably the most important thing, because we're talking about
a person here at the end of the day. Adrian
Or has always been willing to front up. There's been disagreements,

(58:56):
you know, that have come through around monetary policy stances
and decisions, but he's always been fronting up. He's always
sort of delivered his message. There might have been differences
on what that message conveyed, but he put it forward
and he put it forward strongly.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
So all in all, Brad, what do you think adrien
Or's legacy will be as Reserve Bank governor?

Speaker 8 (59:16):
I think it's a bit too early to write that
one fully. I mean, he's technically still in the role,
and you know, we always want to see a bit
more data. But like I say, inflation got out of
control on his watch. Wasn't fully his houltful that at all,
but he was the person tasked who getting it back
in order. There have been some challenges along the way,

(59:37):
I certainly think't here were some missteps, if you know,
from different people's view, probably including mine, But at the
very least he hasn't tried to abandon ship midway through
the process. He's actually got inflation under control. Would have
been very different tones I think of thought coming from people.
If he had gone when inflation must say seven percent,
or at least he's leaving with things in the right

(59:59):
starting position.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Brad. Always fantastic to get your analysis. Thank you very
much and we'll chat again soon. Brilliant that is Brad
Olsen Infometrics cheap chief executive and principal economists. Plenty of
texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Oh yeah, the texts have exploded. Don't blame or for
the economic woes. Blame Grant Robertson, Or had no show
when the government forced growth and employment into mandates when
all his predecessors only had to focus on inflation. Yeah,
ten out of ten, here we go. We've got an
all fan boy or girl bill. We've got we've got
our first or fanboy come in ten out of ten.

(01:00:35):
Or didn't introduce COVID. No one else could have done
better with the cards he was doubt didn't Hoskins advert
just highlight how many winges there are in New Zealand.
There are a lot of wins, Yes, absolutely, I mean, well,
is there is there when the one thing's winging and
other things criticizing people that have put in positions of

(01:00:57):
authority that greatly affect our lives absolutely, and I think
there's a way that you can you can harshly comment
on someone that isn't winging.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah, if you want to give us a buzz and
give us your thoughts. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety two
is the text number. Headlines with Raylene coming up. Great
to have your companies always listening to Matt and Tyler.
Good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Jus talks at the headlines with.

Speaker 14 (01:01:26):
Blue bubble taxis It's no trouble with a blue bubble.
The Reserve Bank governor has resigned after seven years of service.
Adrian Or says the banks made considerable progress and its
approach to financial policy in his time and has built
its capacity to respond to global challenges. Deputy Christian Hawksby
will be acting governor for this month. Police are investigating

(01:01:49):
seven suspicious fires across Port Wykuttel from early January to yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Oh why cut?

Speaker 14 (01:01:55):
The mining company in Tahudor has been fined one hundred
and five thousand dollars for dumping pollutants into the Tasman
Sea two years ago in a thick brown sludge. Auckland's
drier than usual Summers prompted water Care to pull supply
from its Ye countal treatment plants with catchments low. Mandatory
water restrictions are unlikely, but Aucklanders should continue to watch

(01:02:19):
their water use. Labour's leader says most parents of kids
in poverty have jobs. Chris Haipkin says the same government
that raised the minimum wage less than the rate of
inflation is blaming parents for being poor and needing school
lunches for their children, while New Zealand business groups are
backing power purchase agreements. You can find out more at

(01:02:40):
z and Herald Premium. Back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean. Now, just before we move.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
On, Yeah, that's right. So we're going to move on
from Adrianaws stepping down from the reserve back governor position.
But Ryan Bridge will have a lot more in that after.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Four pm, so tune in absolutely right, Let's have a
chat about horsepoof.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, I feel like we need to pivot. Yes, pivot, pivot,
pivot towards horsepoop.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
That wasn't a great seguay, but I know you're enticed
horsepoo chat.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
You sort of drop me in it. I think that's
kind of a pun.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Yeah. So the story is, and you may have seen
this Northland horsewoman. I love that word horsewoman. Clear Ganatchian
is seeking support from fellow horse riders over the wording
of an animal by law in Northland involving horse manure.
So she says she opposes the Far North District Councils
new Keeping of Animals by Law regarding horse riding in

(01:03:32):
Public Areas that states any person riding or taking a
horse or horses on any public place within any area
zone residential, commercial or industrial in the District Plan must
promptly remove or safely dispose of any horse manure or
droppings deposited by that horse or horses in that place.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
That's ridiculous, very official. So you're supposed to every time
your horse drops its business, you have to get off
the horse and comp over there in your job pers
and pick it up in a ridiculous bag and carry
it off.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
That's exactly what they're asking horse riders to do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
That's ridiculous. They're vegetarians. What does it matter if there's
her horse leavings lying about?

Speaker 8 (01:04:10):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two text number.
Do you agree with me? I just think vegetarian leavings animals.
And look, I'm not talking about human vegetarians. Human vegetarians
can't be going and doing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
This, no, please don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
But sheep, cows, horses, I don't agree with having to
deal with that on Who cares? It's just natural and
go away. It doesn't even smell that bad. It's fine.
Cow patties, go for your life. Who cares?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah, a nice wee horse, Patty on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I think what we've got here is concept creep tyler.
I think what's happening is at one point we got
all stressed out about dog leavings on the roads, and
so we all got those humiliating little bags, and now
we follow around our dogs and wrap up their leavings
and plastic bags for the next one thousand years and
put it in the neighbor's wheelibin. And that kind of
made sense because when I was growing up, there were
white dog leavings. Everywhere there was dog leaving. It was

(01:05:00):
a minefield walking to school, and so that probably made
sense because they are horrific leavings, dogs, cats, humans, gross, Yeah,
absolutely disgusting. We don't want them anywhere, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I'm glad you love humans and with that we can
all visualize that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Yeah, if there any other carnivores out there, if they're
out there leavings.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
There's a line up after your lines smell.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Terrible, absolutely horrific. But animals that eat grass and a
bit of hay and maybe some palettes. What does it matter,
what's the big wait for the next rainfall? It'll move on,
it's going back into nature. So you want to wrap
these huge leavings up and then throw them in a
WHEELI bin, it's just silly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
You shiver in they're hissy in sick and put it
on the side of the road for two dollars a
big great for the garden.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yeah, oh sure, I mean maybe there's a business in that.
But if there is, and this is a real problem
with horse leavings all over the Far North, I'd like
to know. Like I don't know. When I'm up in
the Far North, and I spent quite a bit of
time up there. I love seeing the horses riding around.
I love seeing people out on the horses.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
It's cool, it is nice, it's very country killing. There's
that nice heart of New Zealand rural life that I enjoyed.
But on the road with you on the footpath, I'd
be against horse paw on the footpath.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Yeah, I mean there's disgusting things everywhere. Do you like,
what's the big difference between that and do it good point? Yeah?
I mean I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
It's easy to get off your shoe than horsepoop.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
We're just spending so much time solving these problems that
aren't really problems, like what is the huge problem? Look,
maybe I'm wrong, Oh wait one hundred and eighty ten
to eighty. Maybe you're in the far North and there's
just a huge problem with horse leavings everywhere you go. Yeah,
but I mean I just haven't seen it. And I
just think the more people that out on horses, the
cooler it is. And I think you're going to have

(01:06:48):
less people out on horses if they have to get
off and dismount and walk back and pick them up
in a humiliatingly large horse leaving back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Can I throw something into the mix. Yes, So it's
about dog poop. And I know dog pool is controversial, genuinely, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Very controversial if it gets on the shag pole carpet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yes, yes it is. But I think if you're on
the beach with a dog and not a heavily populated beach,
and you're below the high tide, what is the problem
with leaving dog pool on the beach and wait for
the ocean to take it. Same with horses. Horses are
in that group as well, well, hanging out you're digging
a hole for it. Yeah, yeah, I might dig a
shallow hole. Gross.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Why what if what if a little kid comes along
and they're making a sand castle and then the first
thing they pull up is peppers leavings.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Then it will be a deep hole. Then no longer
shallow hole.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I'll dig it at least like a grave six feet down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I'm just going to think about this. If you sprang
this on me, my initial feeling is disgusting. Don't soil
the beach. And you know, my most hated thing ever,
that you step them back in the day when smoking
was prevalent, when people use the beach like an ashtray.
You see someone smoking and they put out and they
go it's just soond. Yeah, that was disgusting. I think
we should keep our beach as clean as possible, But

(01:08:00):
I mean, yeah, it would just go back to nature. Yeah,
what do people think about that? And is there anyone
out there on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty And
I've talked to a few peace that say it's ridiculous
that we even pick up dog leavings. What does it matter?
In the eighties there were white ones everywhere. It was okay, yeah,
it was all right. Now we're just following around, and
if aliens came down, I'd think that dogs ruled the

(01:08:21):
world because we're following them around like servants, picking up
their leavings.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
It's a good point wrapping them in plastic. Is that
really a good idea? Oh? Eight one hundred eighty to
ten eighty. Horse riders would love to hear from you,
and dog owners we can talk about dog poo as well.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is
eighteen to three the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.
Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo X eighty Innovation
Style and design, have it all youth talk, Sa'd.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Be sixteen to three.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
My own mind, we thought we were getting a lot
of communication over the Adrian or issue, but this horse
leavings in the far North topic has absolutely blown up
and your controversial comments Tyler about leaving dog leavings on
the beach and how you support it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
I'm going to need security go into my car after this.
There's some very very upset people about my question. There
is it okay to leave dog poop below the high
tide market a beach that's not heavily populated.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
You've just added the below the top height.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Expect the sort of anger. I don't expect the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yes, we have the courage of your convictions. You said
that just Pepper, your dog goes, and then you just
kind of brush the sand over.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
It, said a shallow grave.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, poo, Tyler, you are our world's problem, and with
your immature and naive thinking, says this Texas. I tend
to agree with that. Hi, guys, I can't remember the
last time I saw a dry white dog poop.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Keep your mouth closed and mow over it. Three second
cloud and gone. Leave the hords alone. Horses alone very
different to man altered dog and cat excretions. Cheers BEV.
And that's my point. I just think that it's you
can't put them in the same category. I know they're larger,
the horse leavings. But it's a totally different substance. It's natural,
it's beautiful, it's just grasping. It's the circle of life.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Good for the gardens. Who is making up their cat
poo though? That's what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Cat your your thoughts on this, this proposed band?

Speaker 18 (01:10:17):
Okay, yeah, a little bit to see and other winging
people up in Northland, you're right with horse poo by
having some family or if they're that worried about it,
bought in their entrepreneurial skills, collected said.

Speaker 20 (01:10:36):
Poo and sell it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Yeah, thanks for the.

Speaker 18 (01:10:39):
Person that's actually got it, make some money out of
it for goodness sake, it's a free enterprise. There's a
little bit of time on their hands. And then just
the other one.

Speaker 8 (01:10:49):
We don't like to call it.

Speaker 18 (01:10:50):
Dog poo in our area. We call it a bark
a barker's mess.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
A barker's mess.

Speaker 6 (01:10:56):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was looking for away because because I
was wondering, I was wondering, how how many times will
you get away with saying a dog pool in an hour?
So yeah, barker's mess is going Thank you for that case.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Thank you very good guys. Leave the horse leavings where
they fall. There is no problem with vegetable eaters, as
you say met Cat owners should, however, have to pick
after them, especially when they go in my vegigart and
human vegetarians are the exception. They should still pick up
their own drop. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Absolutely, We've got when we say vegetarians, it's not human
vegetarians that we're saying should get a pass on that.

Speaker 8 (01:11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I mean I would say in order of horrendousness, it
goes cat dog human.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
In terms of smell, no, just in terms of just yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
A horror of it all. I think cat dog human.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
I'll put human right at the top, would you. Yeah,
horrendous We all know it come omeral humans.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Hey guys, I wonder what they did one hundred years
ago horse drawn carriacters. Yeah, I was reading once about
eighteen ninety four. I think there was a massive catastrophe
in London. I think there was one thousand ton of
horse leavings being dumped on the streets of London every day. Yeah,
a thousand ton, because you know, everything was everything was

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horse based carriages. It was an absolute catastrophe and the
city nearly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Drowned in horsemanual.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
And nearly ground to a holt under the weight of
the horse manure.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Peter Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
You've got an opposing opinion to me on this one.

Speaker 16 (01:12:36):
Good gentlemen, Well, it shouldn't be. You know, that's your animal,
it's your responsibility. You know, it's sort of saying I'm
I should ride motorbikes. I don't anymore. So if you
get a shouldn't say about a horse to it's not
as slightly bigger than a dog's too, you could say, so,
I reckon, if you're a responsible horse owner or whatever,

(01:12:57):
it's like a dog, you're going to clean up should
and it shouldn't be two cents of rules dogs you've
got to clean up the dog. We become horse bits
are quite big. So if I'm riding along my motorbike,
then I go to a country road almost throw me
up bikes. Let's say road safe for the isrshoe as well.
I reckon that it's you should clean it up. Just
get those all camping shovels. You you go riding on

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your horse, a little shovel on the back of your
said all when little wee dogging bag or a horse
beg in this case and clean your miss up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Yeah, well there you go. Thank you so much for
your opinion. Pete. Someone's saying that horses can have catches.
That is this such a thing as a horse nappy?

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Right, Well what about the New York horses? They have
little horse nappies, don't they do? They have little horse nippies?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Can someone do some groundbreaking research on horse nappies?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Okay, Vicky, your thoughts on this key issue for kiwis.

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
I know it's so important to us of all the
things that are going on in the world. But I
just think you were talking about in the olden days.
Oh you know, in the eighteen hundreds, people actually tip
their human poe onto the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I mean they were hardy bunch back then, weren't they.

Speaker 15 (01:14:08):
They were?

Speaker 13 (01:14:09):
And now we're perpetect because you know, when I was
in my sixtiest now, but when I was a kid,
you stop still in some dog po You get in
the car and everyone goes, Poe, what's that smell? And
you think, oh, and you just stop the car, wipe
your show, and away you go. And I think it's
just got I lived in the country, on a cottage

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in the country, on a farm right by the beach.
And you know, if a farmer is supposed to pick
up all that sheep poo which I like to put
on my garden, my veggie garden. You know, if that
chap that was ringing before doesn't like to run up,
he shouldn't go to the country to stay in the

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city where everybody has to pick up. And cats are
really clever because they dig a wheyhole, do their business
and then cover it up.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Cats, I mean, that is the thing that cats have.
If they don't like you're watching, they're very private and
that regard that's.

Speaker 13 (01:15:09):
Very private, and it's very I think the whole that's particulous,
you know. And and cattle. Well, if you don't like
the country, don't go there. And nowadays you're not really
well how often do you see a horse or a
car or anything bataran or the city And if you

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don't like that sort of stuff, then don't go there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Yeah. So just on the cats, and you're quite right,
they're pretty clean animals and they don't like being watched
and they bury their own poops. So when I mentioned
that my dog can't do what a cat that does
and bury her own poop. But if I do it
on the beach, Vicky, am I on the right there?
If you do it, yeah, I bury it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
You know what you do it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
I bury the poop.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Oh Okay, I thought you're saying, if you do it,
you have a po when you have a poole, Well,
I'll a hole on the beach.

Speaker 13 (01:15:58):
I dig a hole, have a poop, and then cover
it up. Kill anybody enough to.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
I think that answers what there was, like a totally
different question from your answering that. Vicky revealed a lot
about herself and I respect.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
That and I think that word out for me kind.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Of what is the harm done?

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Yeah? I mean the sea takes it away, and you
know nature finds away. Is the number to call? It
is eight to three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Good on VICKI.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo
XC eighty Innovation, Style and Design, Have it All, News talks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
B, News Talks ed B. It is five to three.
Some great texts coming through about the horsepoo and dog
poof for that manner.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Yeah, we've got a lot of communication coming through full line,
so keep that coming through the eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. This is a key issue. Obviously. It's disgusting
walking the shallows and seeing dog leavings, pick up your
Pooh tyler baby's crawl on the beach, so you know
a lot of people, not people happy with you and
your pepper, and you're digging this shallow grave for your
dog's leavings.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
I did see one in support. I've lost it now
because there's been so many ticks, but I will find
that supportive ticks to whoever you are. I'm going to
find that ticks and read it out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
It's hard, there's so many coming through. What about farmers
moving stock? Do they need to clean the road up afterwards?
I believe they do. Actually, someone could confirm that rowhena
Dunk can confirm that could confirm that for us. But yeah,
I think you're right. I think that farmers do have
to clean up, which is ridiculous, ridiculous. It's not much
different from just dirt. You know, what is dirt if

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it's not sheep leavings.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
But what happens to the farmer if they don't. I
kind of agree. If you're shifting your sheep across the
road and then you've got to go back, and what
do you do? You just sweep it to the side
of the road.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Mate. It's the countryside, you very expect. Yeah, we need
farmers to be productive. We don't need them going cleaning
up the leavings of their sheep. In the was in
the far North recently passing through a small town, had
stopped for an ice cream, saw a horse being gracefully
ridden down the footpath and then down into a lagoon
for a full horse bath. Absolutely beautiful sight. That's nature

(01:18:09):
for you, Mark. See, yeah, that does sound lovely. That's
what I wanted the fine off. I don't want people
not riding horses because they have to clean up the leavings.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Yep, very good. Right, I've got a question for you
going into the news. You're ready horse related.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
It couldn't be more ready, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
All right, how many times per day does an adult
horse defecate on average?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
It's anything like me, once in the morning and once
at night.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
You are regular if you think you know, nine two
nine two is the text number. And we're going to
pick this back up after News worch is next.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Look watch.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
A Catch for your Hona.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Your new home For insightful and entertaining talk, It's Maddie
and Tyler Adams afternoons with the Volvo XC Nighty.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
On News Talk sev Good Afternoons. You welcome back into
the show. Seven past three and a half. I've been
a pretty in depth discussion about Horseman.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
You were yes's absolutely gone off and we had some
fantastic revelations from Vicky before that we might not go
into right now, but a new proposed by Laura and
the Far North would have horse riders picking up their
horse leavings clear genetic, keep carry on. It was like
a tripped over Ganitashian as it was like I ran

(01:19:34):
into a wall with that name. I stubbed my toe
on the pronunciation there as opposing this, saying that you
should only do it when it's safe. I say this
whole thing's concept creep and I think I don't care
where it is. I would try to see people galloping
around the countryside on their horses because it's beautiful to
watch and see. I love seeing horses out and about

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and if if they have to go back and pick
up their leavings, and I think people will ride horses
lest and it'll be disaster. And who's really cares? What's
the difference between horse leavings and just dirt just on
the road. One hundred and eighty ten eighty two nine
two is the text number. Tyler also thinks, so he
shouldn't have to clean up his dog Pepper's leavings on
the beach. So yeah, your thoughts on that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
I'm getting a lot of abuse on that one. But
also you know there's this TEXTI here, Hi, Tyler, I
absolutely agree with you. Our lovely little dog likes to
defecate in the ocean. Not much we can do about that,
and as you say, the ocean washes it away, so
no harm done.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Well, if it's in the actual ocean, then I understand
from a dog owner's point of view, what are you
going to go out there with a net go fishing
for it? Yeah, I mean that's over. It's happened in
the och, And if it's an aqua leaving, then that's
between you and mother nature. You can't swim out there
with a plastic bag and try and capture.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Now I mentioned before the news, Well, I ask the
question how much will a adult horse defecate per day?
And there's been a whole bunch of texts coming through
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
This textas says ten to fifteen times. This one says times.
This some one says, like me, eight times. Well that's
an interesting texture. Wow, Okay, they there's oh, there's hundreds
of these coming through.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
This one says four times, this one says seven times.
So the answer is for a one thousand pound horse,
which is an eight four hundred and fifty kilogram horse,
between four to thirteen times a day. So if you're
if a horse is rocking up to thirteen times a
day defecating, that is a heck of a lot of
horsemen you in the far North.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Yeah, but the horse isn't out on the roads all
the time. I mean half the time. It's going to
be on a panic, which is fine. I mean it's
just I mean, how much time is actually spinning. You're saying,
there's spend a whole twenty four hours walking down the road.
Maybe you'll get how many you say fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Up to fourteen if.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
You're up, So if you're out for two hours and
you get it one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Yeah, okay, I get your point. I'm just reading more here.
This is quite a lot of manure, up to twenty
five kilos a day, nineen point one tons per year. Yeah,
but it's that is a busy horse.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
That's beautiful stuff, mushrooms growing it good for the great
for the booms, great for the garden, great for the community.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you are
a horse rider, love to hear your thoughts on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
And I asked before the break with a well, someone
asked before the break where the farmers have to clean
up their livestock leavings. I was pretty sure they did.
This is from Tony lads Diry. Farmers have to clean
up a massive amounts of cow dung is caustic damages
road surfaces and cars causes for us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Right, so is that the same for horsemen you're as well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
No, Well, I mean if you get a whole I
mean there's a lot of there's a lot of cows
crossing the road, right, Yeah, then maybe that's a lot.
But I mean, you know how many horses are you
riding on? You got like maybe go out with two mates,
three horses. That's not going to cause the problems, is anyway,
I think I think that's rough on dairy farmers as
well myself personally. But anyway, Lisa, you're a horse rider.

Speaker 9 (01:22:56):
Hey, lads, I am, I am, and approximately one adult
horse is their twenty per day.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Oh, there we go. It's a healthy horse, it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Healthy horse regular.

Speaker 9 (01:23:10):
Anymore than that giving too much to I mean less
than that, you've got trouble called events. Yeah, so I
pick up a lot of horse poof a. Look after
all the horses riding for the disabled, that's seven of them.
I'm going to come from there actually, and I ride

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regularly on the road as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
And what do you think about it then? Because you know,
my saying is, doesn't that make horse riding no fun?
And people won't do it if they're constantly I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:23:42):
I'm not going to be able to get off. My
horse is too big. I can't get back on. I
need a mountain block. So that's ridiculous. I'm not going
to be able to do it. But what I have done.
If I ride on the road and they put on
someone's boom, that's you know, a rural property and you've
got a clearly mode lawn, I will go back and

(01:24:03):
get it. I will go back and get its blute
hassle that I do cross the road to where it's
more scrubby, and and if he poose over there, it's fine,
So I won't pick that up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
So what you get in a car and go back
and get it or walk and so you remember you go,
I remember about two hundred meters down that way.

Speaker 7 (01:24:28):
Then yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (01:24:30):
Can remember where he's done it, because you know when
your horse is stopping, and you know why they're stopping,
and you step forward when they're pulling.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
So yeah, yeah, sorry, Lisa, is there is there any
way to know it's coming in advance? And then across
the road now pretty rumbling.

Speaker 9 (01:24:55):
The telegram, You'll be moving along, having a happy time,
and then he'll just stop. So if I feel that
it might happen, I'll try to get over to this
the a side of the road where I don't have
to go back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
But is it a major problem?

Speaker 12 (01:25:13):
So no, I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
So I mean, really, I mean, how many people do
you see out riding horses when you're out riding a
horse rorally?

Speaker 21 (01:25:20):
None?

Speaker 9 (01:25:21):
No, none apart from us.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Yeah, So I mean, aren't they just trying to solve
a problem that doesn't really exist, considering that horse leavings
aren't even that. I mean they're not bad. I mean
they're vegetarians.

Speaker 9 (01:25:32):
No, No, I mean we bake up a per our
da and put it again and people come and buy it. Yeah,
for goodness sake, So you know, like people love it
for the garden. So it seems really ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
If they were creating massive size leavings of a consistency
and horrific nature of a dog leaving, then I would
understand that. But it's not really any different. Well, it's
literally works in gardens. It literally helps things grow. It's
actually a bonus.

Speaker 9 (01:26:04):
Really does in all horse poo does when it gets old,
is it dries up and it floats away. Yeah, it
just drives up in floats away. Leave it that long.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
It drives up and floats away, Like yeah, like what
do you mean floats away?

Speaker 9 (01:26:20):
Well, I mean once it's dried up, powders very light.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Like fairy dust into the world, which just.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Like a little bit of smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
It's beautiful, the populace.

Speaker 9 (01:26:33):
Hay grass and a little bit of hard feed.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
And so Lisa, there's nothing Lisa, So you said that
you run horse horse you know experiences for disabled people.

Speaker 9 (01:26:47):
Did you say that I go riding for the disabled?
It to maroon you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
I good on you. And how many people do you
have enrolled in that?

Speaker 9 (01:26:57):
Five children?

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
See that that must be that must be well, you know,
hard but rewarding work for you, Lisa.

Speaker 9 (01:27:06):
It's the best. It's the best. I mean horseman, so
it really I love you know that people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, and you know the joy that you get out
of riding a horse. You know, I've ridden that, ridden
the odd horse in my time and it's it's a
fantastic experience, a great way to get out about beautiful animals.

Speaker 9 (01:27:25):
The disabled kids. You know that therapy is more than
physical therapy. That they could ever get that movements, you know,
for forty five minutes walking around on a horse to
set natural movement of the body and the posture and
the yeah, and being in the fresh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Air and the freedom of it.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Well, good on you, Lisa, and thank you so much
for your care.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Wasn't she great?

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Fantastic? And look it's a fair point, but Lisa does
the right thing, that picks up after her horse at
a later stage. I think she shouldn't It's common sense though,
right that if your horse defecates on somebody's lawn or
right in front of a bunch of kids, then you
might do the right thing and the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Go back and charge them for the nutrients that you're
putting into their boom.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Yeah, the fertilizer.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
You go back and put a bill and then it right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Keen to hear from you if you are a horse rider. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I guarantee a lot of
horse riders are like Lisa, that they go back with
a car afterwards. Whether we hesy in sack and clean
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
What do you keep saying hissy in sack, because that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
It is, isn't it say hesy in sick? So what
I envisioned on the side of the road with the
two dollars for horsemanure on it? Yeah, nine nine two
is the text number it is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Look, I'm getting hassled here for saying leavings instead of
crap or poop.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Yeah, goody that time, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Just trying to clean up this shocking show.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Sixteen pass three back in the month, Very good afternoon, tire.
It is twenty pass three.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
We have dived deep into horse leavings after this by
law has been suggested in the Far North, where horse
riders have to pack up their leavings. This Texas says.
My Minchael's alive now he's ninety years old. He used
to collect horse droppings behind tram horses drawn in christ
Church and sold it to gardeners.

Speaker 6 (01:29:16):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
It's good job job, Yeah, good work. Yeah, I should
get a special award. I pick up after my black
lab and she picks up after all the cats as.
That is a complete Dalasy delicacy to her, disgusting. You're welcome, Lisa.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Yeah, on that lab.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
It's a very different issue in my little mini Schnauzer.
What he's laying down compared to a lab. Oh my goodness,
some of them bigger dolls.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Yeah. O one hundred eighty and eighty is the number
to call. We better play some messages because we're horribly late.
But when we come back, we're going to have a
chat to a person who delivered milk by horse and
carts not that long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Yeah, and we've got a lifetime rider from Horror Finois.
So keep listening and keep bringing weight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine two.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on News Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Good afternoon to you, twenty two Parts three, and we
have been talking about some outrage over a proposed by
a law up in the far North that horse riders
would have to pick up after their horses when it
comes to their droppings. And we mentioned before a caller
who rang up who wanted to talk about milk delivered
by horse and carts.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Audrey, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
Oh hello, I used to live in Selkirk Street, but
it's now Anglesea Street. Yeah, I'm largely two years old.
But when I was about twelve, our milk was delivered
by a horse and cart.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
And he used to just get the milk out and
slap it into the billy and he would walk beside
the horse and it had a nose thing with feeders
and at the bat there was always this bucket with
a little shovel in it rattling. So we did sister

(01:31:08):
and I decided to watch one day and he came
past the horses to stop at his house. I don't
know how new, but it did. And the next door
day was the horse did a big business and he
hopped off, but he was walking, but he got the
bucket in the spade, a little spade, scooped it up
and then just walked to the next place. He never

(01:31:29):
even washed his hands.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
The good old days, so there would have there would
have been what the early nineteen forties, just doing my
meth roughly.

Speaker 5 (01:31:39):
It was eighty years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Yeah, yeah, wow, And that must have been interest at
that point though, Audrey. Was that out of the ordinary
for someone to be still operating with a horse and cart?

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
Oh no, no, no, no, we didn't have milk. We
didn't have milk in the bottles for quite a few
years after that. He could hear him coming because the
cats on the backward rattle that the way he slapped
the milk into the bill. He weren't sure whether it
even got our pots.

Speaker 19 (01:32:10):
But he.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Sounds like a loose unit. But what I was asking
Audrey though, at that point though, was was there a
lot of horse and carts around still and doing business
or was the primary cars?

Speaker 5 (01:32:24):
Oh no, there's a nightcart man used to come and
we had a pull chain at the top, but there
was a big steel sort of a bid thing underneath,
and once a week the night cart man would come,
and the sister and I decided to wait up and
see what he was up to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
What was what was the night cart man? What was that?
What was that job?

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
He was in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
The toilets drops?

Speaker 18 (01:32:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Once a week?

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Yeah, he was doing it once a week. It was
a big tin tan that he'd drag his cat around
and take the other one and put it on the
back of the horse and cart.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
The type of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
Wow, I hope you got paid.

Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:33:11):
We were up.

Speaker 5 (01:33:14):
The sister and I decided to watch fore night because
he used to come quite late, and we sort of
got if you fell over and then we're all over
and you don't wonder.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
What so, Audrey, in your life, you must have seen
so many technological changes. You just must have seen the
world change so much. Do you do You look around
now and go, my things are futuristic.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
Oh, I think it's changed for the worse, not for
the better. It was better in my day, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Yeah, simpler times. Eh.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Yeah, you know with a young kids today that this technology,
they're not out playing and doing the things that we did.
We climbed trees and did all sorts. But they're not
allowed to of course, today.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Yeah, yeah, well, thank you so much for your call, Audrey.
That's really really interesting stuff. You might have been, you know,
the nightcare guy. I don't know if that you know
what you're job satisfactions like riding around a horse and
cart picking up people's people's buckets anyway, and once a.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
Week seems like quite a rotation. I mean maybe to
deeper hole so he only has to come around once
a month.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
But that is amazing. I mean that's you know, that's
World War two. That's the end of World War two era,
So that doesn't seem that long ago that that that's
how things were being done.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
So the milk guy, he must have had a big
vat on the back.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Of his cart and then just poured it out into
your thing. What a great call from Audrey. Thank you
so much. Guys. Councils for bid horses going on now
on popular bike trails as it drives the cyclist is
insane and they have overridden the ruling on normal horse trails, right, okay,
Well cyclists drive people insane and a lot of other places.

(01:34:53):
Again it's give and take.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
Yeah, absolutely, Hi, boys, This text to says if your
horse drops a load of manure, put a sticker on
it with the price and your bank account number. It
will be sorted asap.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Hey, someone's texted through. And I'm very grateful of this
because I was being hassled for saying leavings, and I
was trying to politely talk around it, because you know
on new to news Storks the b I can't come
up here and been using filthy language.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
It's a classy show.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
So I was saying leavings and then people saying I
was a wors for using leavings and not describing what
was actually going on. But this texture has helped me
out here. It's droppings when it's when it's grass fed leavings,
fair droppings. Right, So the official turn according to this
text a why would someone text in a lie to
nineteen ninet two? Horse droppings?

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Horse droppings? The things you learn on this show. Oh eight,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We've got headlines coming up. They're more of your phone calls.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
More of your horse leavings, I mean droppings beats.

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Adams, thank you very much, Ray Lean. And we've had
quite the response over whether horse riders should pick up
after their horse when it comes to manure droppings.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
I'll tell you what that presidential Joint Address to Congress
from Trump at the moment, I'm watching that with the soundown,
and it's dramatic enough even with the sounddown.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
There's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
There's a lot going on. There's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
They've got we auction kind of what would you call
those auction signs? So false for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
And the Republicans steadfastly stand up and applaud everything he says.
Will the Democrats frown and remain seated at everything he says?

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Elon's there as well. It's quite the show. We'll bring
you updates on that as the afternoon continues. But back
to Pooh Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Your thoughts on horse riders having to pick up the
leavings of their steeds.

Speaker 22 (01:38:05):
Right, I think you have been preemptible. Someone who's texted
you saying that droppings is the technical and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Acceptable terms I use droppings. I got to remember that.
Thank you. Leave.

Speaker 22 (01:38:18):
Yeah, and of course it can also be referred to
as horsemen. Your On the Chatham Islands there still quite
a few people use horses for moving stuff and as
well as riding for pleasure. And my observations there and
on the mainland are that they don't ride on the

(01:38:38):
hard but they will ride on the grass verge because
it's actually it's bad for the horses food to go
on the hard surface, so they do droppings on the verge.
Nature is going to take care of it anyway, just
as when your dogs on the beach if he if

(01:38:59):
he does dog droppings below the high tideline, nature is
going to take care of them. Why should people be
fussy about dogs doing it when through all those fields,
dolphins and person everything else and seabird.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
That's such a good point. Yeah, that's a really good point.
No one's no one's chasing around a blue whale with
a plastic bag trying to clean up its leavings.

Speaker 22 (01:39:29):
Can I also help you on terminology? There's no such
word as pronounced the as and if you pronounce things correctly,
you are using good pronunciations. But to get back to
the for the horses, but are you you've heard of

(01:39:51):
the riddle about the four men approaching across roads where
a young lady.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
I can't so have not recently.

Speaker 22 (01:40:00):
There was a jogger, a cyclist, a man driving a car,
and a man on a horse. Which of them was
going to stop the young lady's place?

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
And right, so a jogger, someone on a horse, a
cyclist and someone in a car, and there's a young
lady at the crossroads.

Speaker 22 (01:40:21):
Which of them is going to stop at third place?

Speaker 7 (01:40:23):
And the.

Speaker 22 (01:40:27):
Man on the horse because the horse manure?

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Then, very good? Okay, right, you didn't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
No, I'm gonna have to google that one. But he
deserved a laugh. I mean that was quite the set up,
and I wasn't going to leave him hanging on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Elena, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on this horse
dropping a shoe?

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
Well, hide, I don't think they should pick it up
at all, you know, only if they've got a reason to.
I was just excuse me, sorry, I'm an older lady,
an old lady, and I remember when I was a
young woman driving out South Auckland amongst all the fields
back in the day, and I saw this humongous big sign.
I was only young and it had h o sh

(01:41:16):
ten dollars a bag, and I've got hysterical laughing about it,
and I've never stopped laughing about it when I think
of it, and I haven't thought about it for fifty
years or more until you, guys.

Speaker 12 (01:41:27):
I heard your.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
Horse, your horsh conversation. Now quite clever, very clever.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
And my mum when I told my mom, she saw
you're a good girl not to say that bad word.
So anyway, I just want to tell you that it's
probably something and nothing, but it amused me, highling.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
It still does that. I'm seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
So oh well, thank you so much for your call,
Eleanor I appreciate that hor horsh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Yeah, some great texts coming through here, this one get
a guys. In the sixties, our milk was delivered from
cream cans on the back of a small truck or trailer.
Milk was ladled out in Pineto caught lots, usually about
one shilling and three pence for a court. You heated
the billion until the milk started to rise, then took
it off the heat once called skim the cream off

(01:42:17):
the top and spread onto homemade BlackBerry jam on breadge
hairs from Gordon Man. That sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
That's a different era. When when did someone will know
on nine two nine two or one hundred eighty ten eighty?
When did milk stop being delivered? Did you have milk
delivered when you were ok here?

Speaker 6 (01:42:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Yeah, had the milk bottles and the wee totals that
you put put.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
In there and you can get the the orange stuff,
the pinto or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
Yeah, and it used to help the help the milkman
deliver on occasion. And you've got to wee chocky milk
for your for your work.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
When did that stop? Is it happening anywhere in the
country still? If not, when did it will stop? And why?

Speaker 6 (01:42:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Why it seemed like a good business. Was that just
because kids were stealing all the money out of the bottles?
Because every now and then someone to forget their tokens
and put some money in there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Highly likely? Oh eight hundred though, oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty love to hear from you. Nine two ninety
two is the text number. It is twenty two to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.
Matt and Taylor afternoon with the Volvo X ninety, attention
to detail and a commitment to comfort news talk.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Sai'd be so a little bit earlier, there was a
gentleman called Lee Lovely Feller. I think he's on the
Cheddarm Islands. And he told a riddle and I'm not
afraid to admit that you'd make a laugh night. I
didn't quite catch on to what the punchline was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
You didn't get the punchline, so you pretended that you
got it in you laughed.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
So, to paraphrase the riddle slash joke, a cyclist, a driver,
a jogger and a man on a horse meet at
a crossroads. There's a woman at the crossroads who takes
the woman home And he said, the horse manure and
you know it was a bit slow, but slow on
the uptake and someone sticks through. The horseman knew her,
of course.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yes, man, But what if you didn't know? What were
you laughing at?

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Look, it's been a long, long afternoon talking about horseman?

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
You were, Sam, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 23 (01:44:09):
Yeah, it has a guard in your massive backbone.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Sam, what's going on?

Speaker 23 (01:44:15):
No, No, just listening boys, Just cruising down the old
Mighty statehole.

Speaker 9 (01:44:19):
I two from upper Huts.

Speaker 23 (01:44:20):
To Wellies, and I heard the yarn about the old
the old milkman. And when did that sneeze up?

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:44:25):
And I just wanted to say I was born in
Marlboro in nineteen ninety six. I lived in two thousand
and one, yep, And so I was what five years old,
nudge and six?

Speaker 16 (01:44:35):
It was still going.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 23 (01:44:37):
Well they just sort of candor as I was leaving
maulbra And I'm pretty sure the reason why they did
it is because it was getting sour or people's milk
was getting.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
Racked, right, that would make sense.

Speaker 23 (01:44:48):
I don't know if you guys recall, we probably do.
But they used to leave the milk and the glass
bottles on the front of the litter box. You know,
you get the boxes with the holes yet, yeah, get
solen from there. And like people think their milk money
in the box as well. Milkman would just show up,
drop two letters off, grabbed the coins.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Yeah, he gone.

Speaker 23 (01:45:04):
But I think there's too much stick and too much
quality control.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Yeah, overlook, what a bloom and shame may. I don't
know about you, Sam, but I remember fondly helping out
the milkman do his deliveries, and he gave us a
week chocking milk for our troubles. It was good time, brother,
and you just hook it right up.

Speaker 23 (01:45:25):
We were only going to help just to get our
chocolate back. So that might have been the catalyst.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Who knows, Yeah maybe so. Yeah, I mean it does
seem like there's a good chance that people were just
stealing milk from from people's driveways. Yeah. Yeah, Well, thank
you so much for your call, Sam good Man. You
keep driving, you keep tracking. Hey, So, but when I
was a kid, right, the really cool kid's got the
job on the milk you know, the milk truck. Yeah,

(01:45:51):
you know, and I just had the paper run. But
to get riding around, hanging off the back of the
milk truck running and delivering milk was a cool job. Yeah,
if you could get that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
I think it was just first and first serve, wasn't it.
Whoever ran out the fastest quick couple of texts. Here
guys my grandfather and hiss but would race to collect
them manure for their gardens. The horse would leave a
deposit a deposit outside the Glenn Davis Street property every day.
They both had great gardens. There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Well the horse was the horse targeting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
That must have been a well trained horse.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
I've just returned to New Zealand from the UK. They
still deliver milk and glass bottles once a week in
the UK, says Dam.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Wow. Yeah, hey boys. I grew up in the Eastern
Soubers of Melbourne and milk was delivered by horse and
cart until the late seventies. Dad would put the coins
in the empty bottles and would be replaced with fresh milk,
complete with a foil cap. We had to make sure
we got it inside before the magpie picked through the
term foils to get to the cream. Cheers John. So

(01:46:50):
that's right for the seventies and horse.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
And cart in Melbourne. Yeah, hundred eight Australia exactly. Keep up, mate,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
should we got to Audrey. Get a Audrey, Audrey.

Speaker 21 (01:47:06):
I have been listening to your program with great interest
and I've got two comments to make.

Speaker 6 (01:47:11):
Yes.

Speaker 21 (01:47:11):
The first nothing to do with horse droppings. Whatsoever is
to do with cary droppings. During the war when we
were in the UK, the carriage used to be driven
home from market every Sunday morning, and we were and
all our neighbors and my father used to go out
to the road and they were allowed to clear the

(01:47:33):
cary droppings off the area demarked by the line down
the middle of the road and the boundary of the house,
and well protrid if you took it off some day
off's patch. And then they put it all in the
gardens because we were digging for victory and growing our
own vegetables, so that was one way of getting the
road clean. And then a short while ago I heard

(01:47:53):
another lady called Audrey saying she remembered the milk being
delivered by horse and cars. Well, when I was working
in Edinburgh in the seventies, I used to drive into
Edinburgh every day and I used to pass the co
op cart delivering the milk, and the horse knew the
route too well.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
The man used to.

Speaker 21 (01:48:12):
Run up the paths and put the milk on the doorstep,
and the horse would walk on to the next stop
and the way he went and that only stopped. And
I think you might be interested in this. When that
particular horse became the Queen's drum horse, and that was
the horse that she rode at troop.

Speaker 11 (01:48:29):
In the color.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Wow, that's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
So hang the minute. So you how old were you
in the war, Audrey?

Speaker 21 (01:48:38):
I was a little I was about seven.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Right, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
I love the phrase digging for victory.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
You've got a very young voice for someone that was
running around during the war.

Speaker 21 (01:48:49):
Thank you very much for that. I do my best
to keep myself fit and keep myself on the move.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
It sounds like it. It's very chipper.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
Good on you. Thank you so much for your call
digging for victory.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
It is a great phrase, isn't it. I imagine that that
that's in relation to keeping up a good garden and
growing food for the message.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Hey guys, still milk and glass delivering and in Auckland, now,
cheers Gaff.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
Where tell us more, Gath, tell us more?

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
So there was an area, according to Gav there's an
area in Auckland where you can get milk delivered in
glass bottles? Do you thedore old school tokens?

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
What milk delivery Auckland? All right, we're going to do
some investigations so if we can find that. Paul, how
are you this afternoon?

Speaker 20 (01:49:30):
I'm good, but I think the milk sort of stopped
with the phasing out of glass bottles and the introduction
of supermarkets, right, and the ladies that sort of stopped
around Palma sauce because guys are worked to.

Speaker 24 (01:49:42):
Say, milk for a guy, and they used to finish
work and then do the milk on at six o'clock
at night to put your tokens and the milk one
would come, put the milk in a letter box and
off you go. The first one I remember was school
milk because I went to when the sun hit the
school milk from about six o'clock in the morning, so

(01:50:04):
when you got to drink it at ten o'clock and
by then as or kurdled it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Yeah, yeah, because I guess it was quite a lot.
There's quite a lot involved in it, wasn't there. Because
you're having to, you know, sterilize the bottles that that
factory had to keep going and then filling them up.
It was quite quite a quite a a operation around it,
I guess. And when people just started going to the
supermarkets more and just buying the plastic tubs or the

(01:50:31):
tetrapac tubs, it just I just must have eaten into
the into their business and run them out of town.
It's yeah, that sucks. That sucks, because what an awesome
thing to you know, have milk delivered at the bottom
of the street.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
Yeah, because I remember vividly getting cream delivered and it
was a fight, you mate, and it was a fight
with the brothers to whoever got the top of the
cream that was kind of solidified and it was really
good on the corn flakes. One hundred eighty is the
number to call. Plenty of texts coming through about the
milk run. Guys. Remember milk delivery. You had the silver

(01:51:06):
and the blue top from Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there was different milk, right, it was
one homogenized and one n or something or full cream
or there was something going on. I mainly remember just
getting yelled out forgetting to put the tokens out and
then being no milk in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
Yeah, so it was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Do people drink more milk back in that in the day,
because you had because you were getting milk every day, right,
and it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Was four leaders, wasn't it. I remember getting four leaders
you had that we carry boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
You get one, you get one of the pinto orange juice,
you get a cream, and you get four milks.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Geez, you were lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
Someone was going to text about my South Darlin pronunciation
of milk milk. That's going to be annoying someone right now. Anyway,
we're messively off topic, but does that really matter? Probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Yeah, if we wrapped up the horse poof discussion yet
I went under an eighty ten eighty, we got time
for a few more calls very shortly. It is eleven
to four.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt and Tayler Afternoons with the Volvo
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Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
The conversation started with a new by law that's being
proposed in Northland to make all horse riders pick up
their leavings, which I think is unfair because the droppings
from a horse beautiful natural things that make things grow,
and we want horse riders out there, and we want
them because it's beautiful seeing horse riders out there, and
we want them out there and not getting off the

(01:52:30):
horse all the typically leavings. But a lot of people
disagree with me. But it's gone down a different route
and now we're talking about milk delivery. Don welcome to
the show.

Speaker 19 (01:52:38):
Yeah, thanks, I'm familiar with both milk deliveries, my horse
and nights All Removal. The nights Aw Removal was at
Wahea Beach and it was originally with the horses, and
they just plodded along and stopped at every gate, like
the milk ones did they knew exactly where to go.

(01:53:01):
The toilets just had a can underneath. They're all outside
and way overside you. If you were out there at night,
they happened to came. It was too rare.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
So were they picking up once a week? Did you say,
don they?

Speaker 19 (01:53:15):
I think you booked them in because a lot of
the places there were batchers.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
And yeah right, yeah, it was disgusting.

Speaker 19 (01:53:26):
They also had not delivered by horse there. And I
remember also Markaitani, where I used to visit, milk was
delivered by horse and cart. And again they just plodd
along and stop at every gate, so cute. And they
had of course boys helping to deliver. The high school
boys and after school or in the morning would be

(01:53:48):
delivering the milk bottles. We also had the school milk
and schools of course, and that was probably a bit
fought with problems because I used to sit outside in
a special stand out at the gate of the school
in the morning and it was shaven that it would

(01:54:08):
get warm, and kids used to be sick all the time,
and we had wooden floors, and they can imagine they
keep a box of sawdus spread.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Yeah, well, yeah, hey, thank you so much for your
called on. And people are complaining about lunches these days.
A lot of texts coming through in New Plymouth district.
We have two hours to go back and clean up
our horse droppings. Most of us ride longer than that
and it is usually squashed by then. Anyway, Yeah, you
come back and nature has taking its course. Just wanting

(01:54:43):
to notice, is this text of vegans do droppings? Yep,
vegetarians do droppings. Everyone else has. And grapefruit juice too,
That's the thing I forgot about, Judy. Thank you so
much for your text there. Yeah you spelled to get
grapefruit with your with your milk at the end of
the driveway in the bottles. Grapefruit juice was so good.
My goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Muzz says I got busted stelling milk money from neighbors
in the seventies and as punishment chores for them all
for six months. Yeah, good months. Don't steal people's the
milk money.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
There was a lot of honesty involved in that. I
think they went to tokens, didn't they. Yeah, because people
were stealing the money. But then people could steal the milk.
There was a lot of honesty involved in their whole
milk delivery, wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
It was better times. You just couldn't do that now,
could you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Guys, I did the milk run in the eighties and
fitness from doing that job set me up for a
great sporting career. I want to who that's from. Yeah,
we're in to assume that is from a no Shaw Fitzpetrick,
Seinfad Aliens from out of space. If you saw a
dog and a man walking dog does a poo and
a man picks it up and carries it, who would

(01:55:46):
you think was in charge?

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
It's can carry Yeah, very good. And we've had an
email from a gentleman called Adam, thank you very much.
Going back to the horse manure, apparently you can get
horse nappies, but he's given us a website called bun
Bag and you can buy liver draft horse manure catches
for about one hundred bucks. There you go. Okay, I

(01:56:07):
better live in everybody all right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Thank you so much for listening today, so many calls
and Texas's been a very busy day. We'll be back
again tomorrow. Ran Bridges up next. Until tomorrow, pick up
the poos and leave the droppings and give me a
taste of keiwek

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