Full Show Podcast: 05 September 2025

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Hello you, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, nine nine Friday, the
fifth of September twenty twenty five. One of the best
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very hard to do. It was hard to it's become
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but it hats off to them. You also got invited
to a hunting.

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Bloody home Killer a red out in the bush.

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Very very good Afternoons. You welcome into the show on
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Hope you're doing well. Just before we get into what's
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Right on to today's show. After three o'clock New Zealander
of the Week. Because it is a Friday, nominations are
still open.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Matt.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, we've just got a bunch of nominations for Scribe
coming in there because he's he's hanging up his microphone.
But yeah, if you've got a suggestion for New Center
of the Week, seen it through A nine nine two
and it'll be anunced just after three o'clock as always.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, always look forward to that. And after three o'clock
the Massurf Sporting Fixture of the weekend of course, all
Blacks versus South Africa, Eden Park Saturday night, hugely anticipated,
lots of nerves and we're already getting already getting the
text coming in thick and fast from a lot of supporters.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
But who's going to win? One hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine nine two is the text a number? And
I want to hear from some South Africans, and we
are hearing from South African fans coming through and they're
very very confident ladies and gentlemen. They dangerously so.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, that's going to be good after three o'clock. After
two o'clock has red meat prices sore. People are looking
to their local butcher to get more bang for their buck.
They're buying less meat, or they're hitting out hunting and
use home kill butchers.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, I want to know how this works. I've only
just found out, as I was saying before to you, Tyler,
that home kill means I just thought it meant that
someone bought an animal around your house that killed them.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, both thought.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
But no, this butcher is involved and then the stuff
gets delivered. But earlier I just got sent a picture
of a chest freezer with only half a beast in it. Yeah,
only half a beast in it, But that is that's
a beautiful amount of meat.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
That was chocol block. Yeah, that is going to feed
that family or an individual for a long long time.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
So we want to talk about home kill. Is it
the way to go? And we'll talk to a home
call butcher as well.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeap, looking forward to that after two o'clock. But right now,
let's have a chat about the freight industry. So truck drivers,
they're under pressure from our customers to break the law
and what is a hyper competitive market at the moment
to move goods quickly. That's from industry leaders and such
as the pressure to reduce costs by leaning on truck
drivers to do more that a union representing the sector
is pushing for a new payment regime to safeguard a

(04:07):
level of driver's wages so they don't have to cut
cross on pay, safety or maintenance. I mean, this is
a big one. As we know, people when they order
something online or god forbid from timu, they want it quickly,
They want it yesterday. They don't want to muck around
the overnight delivery. That puts a massive amount of pressure
on those in the industry.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, So what's it like to make a living out
on the roads at the momenta two hundred eighty ten
eighty a year being pushed to the edge? Is that
speed and speed? Because speed and truckers have been together
both the what's the booger sugar way?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
As well? Good phrase with who's that before?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
To quote the concretor that we talked that we were
talking about earlier in the week. Yeah, I never heard
that before, but you know, you know, historically to get
things done, truckers you hear about a lot in Australia
on those straight roads anyway, have been forced to, well
not forced to, but have have headed down that path.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
The old trucker's choice.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
But also I mean you want your parcel on time,
but you you know what, you want the roads to
be safe as well, don't you?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Absolutely so can you hear from you on oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty if you're a truck driver now
or you used to be a truck driver, how hard
is it out there at the moment? What's it an
hours you working? What is the pay like? What is
the pressure that has been put on you to deliver
these packages in lightning speed? Are really keen to have
a chat? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
number to call or nine two ninety two is the text?

(05:31):
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Speaker 1 (05:35):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
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Speaker 6 (05:40):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons us talks.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
That'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about
the freight industry and it appears truck drivers are under
increasing pressure to break the law in order to get
customers packages to their homes in quick fashion. So the
union is calling for what they do. Over in Australia,
it's called the Safe Rates International Labor Campaign, It effectively
seeks to make employers, clients, and customers responsible for the

(06:06):
financial pressures causing truck drivers to be pulled on with work.
If you're in the industry, is that's something you'd get
behind And it ticks came through curiers as well. Man,
you see those curiers, I feel I feel very sorry
for them because they are massively under the pump. They
are breaking a lot of laws, no doubt about it,
screaming through winds of seactions, getting in front of people.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well as what are the laws on couriers and just
shoving on your emergency lights and parking in the middle
of the road.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
They don't care. They got packages to move, so good point.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well yeah, and man, what about you know the delivering
groceries is all all over the place. Yeah, I mean
I recognize the guys that love in my groceries and
I see them all over the shop. Yeah, you know,
And it's stressful. You're out in traffic, You're trying to
get it done. But is it a good job? And
you know, into city, how's that going for you as

(07:00):
a truck driver, Is it's still a good job? Just
driving around delivering things. How are the stress levels and
is there anyone out there that's running families into different towns,
because that's what truck has used to do.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
And would love to hear from you.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to
call nineteen nine two is a text number. Dylan, how are.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
You, hey, mate? You know Matt he goes.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
So you're a current truckee, are you, Dylan?

Speaker 8 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I've really been feeling the
streets from the customers. But a few years ago, I
used to work for a company. It's not going to
say which one, but there was no one else to
cover a few shifts, sodad that work seventeen hours one
day and then the very next day nineteen well on
my way out to Beachlands and you had to, you know,

(07:48):
not do that again because I nearly well ran somebody
off the road going to sleep. But yeah, at the
end of my delivery, I ended up just sleeping for
a couple of hours just in the back of the truck.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Wow. And so what are the rules on that? How
many hours are you legally allowed to drive in a day? Dylan?

Speaker 8 (08:08):
Thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's a long day.

Speaker 8 (08:11):
Yes, I was well well over the limit.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah. And so if you've been asked to do those
kind of hours, who's found responsible if something goes wrong,
if there is an accident? Is it the company that's.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Asked you to do it?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
With you? You are?

Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right? And so and do you feel at that company
do you feel like you could push back and say,
hang on mate, I've just done nineteen hours. You can't
throw seventeen at me.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, So then you can't well I didn't
Jelly could push back what you guys said this earlier on.
It's a very competitive field and then that remains today. Yeah,
so I end up just leaving the company.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah right, Well that sort of makes sense if you
can do it. What a truckies do around this issue?
I mean historically you hear a lot about truck of
speed and ways to stay awake. Is it just the
slamming of the red bulls or how do you stay
active alert?

Speaker 8 (09:06):
I mean that does help, but one of the major
well they do talk about the managing fatigue. When you
go and see your Class two four and the class
five licenses, then you get your three when you do
your five, the One of the major ways is just
have your window down. That generally keeps you away for
a little bit. Generally when you're feeling that tire, just

(09:28):
just pull over and have some rest. Yeah, I mean
absolutely pull over somewhere.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
So in a thirty hours shift, how many breaks would
you get in that thirty now shift? Is there an
ability to have a wee power nap if you.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Need one, Well, you're allowed to work fourteen, but that
includes your two half hour breaks and after the well
every five and a half hours you have to take
a thirty minute break in between.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Is that monitored because I could say that, you know,
if you want to get if you want to get
the job done, you'd push through that. No, but they
chicken on that.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
Now nowadays with your teletrack nap man and your e roads,
the GPS and the trucks. If you're working for a
very rated a steam company, yeah, then then they most
certainly tracked that and they put a stop to it,
even if you're over the five minutes over the a
lot of time they're allowed to be on the road.

(10:20):
I've even gone there a few times. But back in
the old times, the you could get away with having
two or three log books.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Right right, But but now now it's tracked.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
So yeah, exactly, and.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
How close are your tracked? Are you tracked on speed? Dylan?
So you know what's the lea?

Speaker 8 (10:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
So so again and is that is this been tracked
now made the job better or worse? Do you think.

Speaker 8 (10:51):
Are safer?

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (10:52):
But it's also the resulted in customers being a little
bit unhappy that you can't do as much in a
small amount of time.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
With the We had a few texts a couple of
days ago from a truck you' saying they've got these
fatigue cameras operating in the business. Is that a big
thing in the industry, these fatigue cameras.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
One of the places that I've worked at definitely has
those front facing cameras, and they're a bit of a
pain in the behind, but it's also quite quite good
because what they do is those front facing cameras they
face you. They're not consistently recording as a lot of
truck drivers believe they are, which is why a lot
of the drivers really don't like them. But they only

(11:33):
stay recordings if they detect something that's gone wrong. And
so if you've kept your eyes away from away from
the road for any longer than three or four seconds,
it vibrates the chair very, very vigorously, and it sounds
off this really loud alarm.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Oh wow, mind that.

Speaker 8 (11:53):
If you're slowly dozing off, Yeah, going to vigorously shake
the your seat saying hey, look you're dozing off. Wake up.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Basically, at that point, would you get a call from
the boss to say, we saw you. Yeah, sit off
the alarm you've got all over and stop you shift?

Speaker 8 (12:10):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I can't. I won't say company Amsler,
but yeah, most certainly it goes to that video recording
goes to the parent company if whatever company you're working
for is contracted out to another company, and it also
goes to your company.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right yeah. And as as far as staying, you know,
if you're getting tired, can you as your company open
to that? So you just say, look, I'm tired, I
need to I can't do this, I need to pull
over and have a have a sleep.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Do you the one I'm working for now? Absolutely?

Speaker 10 (12:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, it seems good.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I mean it seems like a lot of precius.
So would you be behind what the union is calling
for here, Dylan, you know, the Safe Rates International campaign,
so it would make when the preces on, it makes
the employers and the clients and the customers responsible for
those costs rather than the drivers themselves.

Speaker 8 (13:04):
That would be great. To be honest with you, I
haven't actually looked into any of this, so this will
here is new to me. But from what you've just said, yeah,
that sounds great.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Is driving still a good job? Dylan?

Speaker 8 (13:16):
The money isn't what it used to be, Yeah, especially
with the time that you've spent, you know, and if
you're over the road drivers, then then the time away
from family just just isn't really worth it. I know
good friends of mine that you know, as soon as
they start talking about their kids, that you know, they're
not even there half the time, you know what I mean.

(13:37):
It's it's really upsetting, especially if you've got you know,
kids and whatnot.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, tough job. Definitely tough job. Yeah, Dylan, thank
you very much.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
Touch a little bit on home kill if you guys
want to just just you know a couple of siggings.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, if you can cover off two topics for us,
they'd be there'd be bonus. Dylan.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
Yes, I got a hunting say I shoot a deer
or whatever, i'd feel address it, which you know means well,
no real way to to put this lightly, but you know,
you gut it out in the field and then you
can either the skin it out in the field if
you really want to, then just take the meat outs

(14:17):
in your backpack or whatever, or you can go and
take it to a home kill butcher and then they'll
do everything. If you want patties, you can get patties. Well,
you've got to pay a bit more for that, to
be honest. If you want salama, you can sausages, you can, yeah, everything,
bring them the carcass and everything.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
What are you hunting, Dylan, dear dear right, yeah, so,
and you know if you bring I mean obviously there's
there's a lot of work in bringing the whole beast
back into down to get to get home home killed.
But how much are we talking in volume? We're talking
a chest freezer full? And how much would you would
you live off that? For Helen?

Speaker 8 (14:58):
Well, you're shooting, yeah, if you're shooting a say a fallow,
which there generally are a lot smaller and they generally yield
about se fifteen to twenty kegs of meat if you're lucky. Yeah, right,
and then that'll last you. Well, it depends on how
much you're eating your meat, to be honest. Yes, if
you're shooting a red then that gives you so much

(15:21):
more meat.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I mean twenty kilos of meat. If that's at
the lower end, that would last me a fear work
of time in my household. I got to say, Dylan, Uh,
and do you does the home kill butcher take any
for himself or it's purely you just pay him for
the for the work and get all the meat and
saucy or salami or however you want it.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Now, you pay him for the work and then he
gives you your your your meat back.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Hey, when you take down and red deer, do you
what do you do with the antlers?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (15:51):
That's all you're shooting the stag. But but yeah, there's
a way to properly process the bone so then you
can hang it up.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Yeah, so you can have a nice ornament or whatever.
But I unfortunately haven't had the luxury of shooting one
just yet.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, Well, there used to be a big velvet trade
as well, wasn't there with the old antlers?

Speaker 11 (16:12):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Really, I was gonna wear of that.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah. Yeah, oh well, hey, thank you for addressing two
issues for us, Dylan. That's a real bonus call.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
We really appreciate it, good man.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
You go well, yes, you stay safe out there.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, over everything, Dylan. But yes, so we getting a
lot of ticks on the old trucking industry at the moment.
How much pressure are you facing if you're in the
freight game this Texas here is guys. The issue with
truck driving in curiers is that they generally run a
franchise system, meaning that the drivers don't get paid by time,
rather by deliveries completed. These franchises are mainly owned by migrants.

(16:48):
Now they will work for twenty hours a day. The
whole industry needs to be investigated a day far right.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, that's not good. And speaking of red deer and stags,
Antler's up, it's up you go Southland?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah you good people?

Speaker 10 (17:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Oh? Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you're in the freight industry. How
bad is the pressure at the moment and what sort
of hours you're working? It is twenty four past one.

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Speaker 3 (18:00):
Twenty eight pass one so freight an Caurier. Drivers are
facing increasing pressure to deliver more packages faster. What are
you facing if you are a professional driver? You feeling
that at the moment? I want one hundred eighty ten
eighties the number to call.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Interesting text here Hey mate, Mate and Tyler assume that
means Matt and Tyler m hm, yeah, yeah, you go
by mate sometimes Yes, Hey, Mate and Tyler love the
show man, Oh good man, thank you. Listen. Every day
my brother and I get around the driving hours by swapping.
We work for different companies so we can put in
long hours. Oh don't say my name, but the pipe

(18:34):
keeps us going. It's the only way, okay, making of
making good money. We're going to give up when we
have enough to move to the Goldie. But mate, that's
one way to get around the driving hours.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Cheap as that is putting it all on the line.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It seems a great idea to me. No, no, it
also sounds like the plot from a movie, you know,
when they say when he says, we're going to give
up when we have enough money to the Goldie. See
the thing with the whole with the glass barbecue, Your
hopes and dreams don't tend to come through.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, off, well, and you put it in some serious hours.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
You don't end up at the Goldie. You end up
losing everything, including your teeth and everyone you know, and
you end up on the street exactly. And also yeah,
I mean, there's so many things wrong with that text,
except for the love the show man.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
But even then, can we just say, dear textra, it's
not a long term strategy what you doing there, but
thank you for texting through and love in the show.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
As the saying goes, never go into business with a
glass barbecue enthusiast, exactly. It can go well for a
short amount of time, but it never goes well for
a long amount of time. So I would say, don't
wait to go to the Goldie to give up. Do
everything you can now to give up, reach out to someone.
There's places you can ring absolutely do everything you can

(19:51):
to get off. Get off that stuff because it's never good.
And if you're planned to get off as sometime in
the future, I'm telling you now that's that's unlikely to happen.
You've got to try and get off now.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
You can scoog and absolute life U it used to be.
There's a few techs coming through saying yoday, guys. At
the moments, I contract out at an hourly rate of
twenty five dollars and sixty cents. That means that I
have to do seventy hours plus to pay my mortgage
and put food on the table. This is where the
pressure is coming from, is that there needs to be

(20:27):
a lift in the wages we are paid on an
hourly basis. So many guys do far more work than
they should be doing and try and get around the
rules just to make sure they have enough money at
the end of each week.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, we'll take this. Anonymous truck driver here was due
a break five minutes ago, but pushing on to the
port otherwise I miss freight cutoff time. The struggle is real, boys.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you're a former truck driver or
a current truck driver. Love to hear from you. What
are the pressures like at the moment.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
This text will grab Parcel drivers aren't truck drivers. Couriers
drive toy trucks. They only make ten percent of them.
I'm sixty four and have been driving for forty five
years to rest, I take it from Graham.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's spoken like a true trucker.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So is that true? Well, I mean I don't know
if courier drivers claim to be truck drivers. I mean,
there's obviously a different thing, but they have their own
stresses out on the road, and especially gosh in Auckland,
trying to deal with just the amount of road works
when you're trying to deliver things. Yeah, I mean, there's
good luck finding a place to pull over in Auckland

(21:33):
half the time.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Exactly. I always get out of their way. If I
see a courier coming through, I just say let them pass.
Let them passed. He might have my passer. Actually, if
you are a curier driver, are you feeling these pressures
as well. Nine two ninety two is the text number.
But can you hear from you on oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3 (23:21):
Thank you very much, Scarlett. We are talking about the
freight industry and the courier industry. Is it just too
hard now? If you're in that game or you've recently
left as a driver, love to hear from you. The
pay is stagnant, the preachers are more than ever and
according to the Union, a lot more drivers are having
to break the rules to deliver on time. So is
it a good career? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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is the number to call?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
And speaking of breaking the rules and breaking the law.
We had a text of four who was saying he
was using the pipe to get through the driving. So
I've just I reckon, mate, If you're still listening, go
to healthifire dot in Z. There's some good advice there
for getting getting off that myth. You're never going to
make it to the Goldie yeah. Yeah, So the advices

(24:05):
reach out to tell your partner, close friends, or family
members that you want to stop using myth so they
can support you to make the change. Contact one of
the specialized services that know about how to stop using
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You can call eight hundred Myth Help which is eight
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(24:25):
Drug Helpline eight hundred and seven eight seven seven ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, good advice. I mean, it is an absolute life
ruin of that stuff. Jimmy, how are you, mate?

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah? Good, good, thank you. That's a pretty shocking statistically.
You just said then that people you know spoken that
stuff to to work, if you know, I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because I'd imagine the most reputable companies they'd be drug test,
wouldn't they. I could be wrong in it, of.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Course, yeah, of course, but I did. I'm sorry. I
have to tell you about my story only briefly, but
I was only I was in the industry about seven
years ago, so I don't know. I didn't see any
of that going on, you know, like people having to
use drugs to get through the day. But I have

(25:21):
heard about and it must be getting very quite serious,
because you know, it was a very stressful industry. I
joined it. I went for a trucking firm to get
my licenses, and I because I love driving, I really
love it. And then when I got into the logistics

(25:41):
sides of it side of it, or for a big company,
the stress was very quite hard. You didn't really know
what you're in for every day, and at the end
of the day, you didn't know how long it will
take for you to get these trucks loaded and on
the on the road. So sometimes I was in the

(26:04):
yard about nine nine thirty at night and i'd started
seven I found it very very hard to settle down
when I got home because I was always stressing about
the next job the next day, because you didn't know
what to expect, and they paid on you, and I couldn't,

(26:24):
so I went to I had to drink alcohol is
the only thing that would make me go to sleep.
Doctors wouldn't give me a pill or anything. So I
was actually stressing every day. I lost my job because
of it, because of the stress, and I asked for help,

(26:48):
very big company, millions and billions of dollars, and they
didn't really want to know me. I worked for them
for five years. The first three years I was the
number one employer, and at the end of the day
I walked out of nothing because they wouldn't listen to

(27:11):
what I was trying to say to them about the
stress and the hours I was working, and it wasn't
really cool. And I love the job. Even though I
love the job, I love driving, I really do.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
So what what would you what would you have needed
to be different so the stress wasn't so bad that
you got into that state. What were the basic things
that could have changed for you? Jimmy, Well, first.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Of all, I believe that okay, you can drive. People
think you're just driving a truck, and then they go, okay,
well just driving a truck. He can he can do
that for twelve, thirteen, fourteen hours a day. Well, no,
you get out there and do that and see how
it feels. You know, it's stressful. You've got people all
around you. That's a and people think, oh, they can

(28:01):
do that, but no, we can't.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Jimmy. Just like people like me, if I drive five
hours to another town or something, I'm shagged for the
rest of the day. I often said, just for some reason,
it's incredibly tiring to drive, you know, just you've been sitting.
You have to be alert the whole time. There's something
just incredibly tiring about it. Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, and that okay, you've got their driving, but imagine
throwing in you have to stop every now and again,
every hour maybe, and have to open truck, unload. You've
got to fight a part, You've got to do it safe.
You've got to unload and give them their stuff, wait
for them to check it, blah blah blah, takes ages.

(28:40):
Next minute you're off off again, and then you've got
to keep doing that for fourteen hours. And and people
I asked for album didn't get it. Yeah, I mean,
I just wish. I wish things would change, and I
really wish they would really listen to truck drivers now,
because we need.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Them, absolutely, and we're so sorry that happened to you,
to you, Jimmy, do you think a part of it
is you know that preciatre ultimately comes from the customers,
right and that expectation to have their packages delivered within
twenty four hours, sometimes even twelve hours.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Do you think, yeah, it's definitely.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Do you think customers like you know, me included? And
I'll probably put myself in that camp. But maybe we
just have to think of it differently as customers that
if we're expecting that sort of convenience, either we've got
to pay more that flows down to you guys as drivers,
or we reduce our expectations on when we can get
these things.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Gil, that's right, I'd like to just reduce your expectations.
But the great thing about being a good driver and
a delivery drivers actually what I want to get to
whatever you have in my truck, I want to get
it to you. That's what I love. And seeing your
face you know, when I'm delivering, it makes it just

(29:57):
makes us then go away. But what I'm trying to
say is like when there's a holiday, everything backs up,
Everything just backs up.

Speaker 10 (30:06):
So a normal.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Monday, if there's a holiday, on a Friday. We've got
to deliver Friday stuff on the Monday as well as
Monday stuff. Did understand some years a holiday, everyone's everyone's there,
and that just puts double more time on us and
more expectations for us to deliver.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
And Jimmy, how are you, Jimmy, how are you now?
Are you going?

Speaker 4 (30:32):
All right?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Going? Okay? Now, so you said that was sort of
five years ago you've been at how are you going
in twenty twenty five? I build houses now, less stressful, Jimmy.
And there's is it a bit of a vision?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yes, a lot more slower and controlled hours. And I
know that I get to go home at five o'clock
and put my feet up with that. Industry is really
really hard. Hey, don't get me wrong. And there's a
great industry. We just need to work with it so
we can manage it and people can enjoy it and
we can get everything done properly. It's not a slow brain.

(31:09):
So we'll just see more people and let's let them
all understand. Yeah, thank you so much, thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, Jimmy, it's for you call Jimmy. Yeah, appreciate it.
So do you agree with Jimmy if you're in the industry.
As he bang on with some of those pressures he
was facing, and how you deal with that For Jimmy,
sadlet was turning Dale cold to d stress. Is they
are they the sort of pressures you're facing? I one
hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
The Sex says the maximum work time for a truck
drivers thirteen hours per twenty four fourteen is illegal. Yeah,
we're saying that, but there's seems to be a lot
of truck drivers that are finding ways to get round that.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, it is sixteen to two. We've got full boards
at the moment. If you can't get through, keep trying.
O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Wow your home of afternoon talk mad he than Taylor
Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk,
say'd be.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Thirteen to two. We're talking about the pressures in the
freight and career industry. So many techs have come through
on nineteen nine two.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, on both sides of it, it's called a job. Jimmy,
I drive twelve hours a day, six days a week,
have done for twenty eight years. Is Dave, this Texas
says Gooday, lads. I got into tracking many years ago
in my twenties. I drove for a large company on
and off for about seven years. When I first started
the driver training, said to me, truck driving is not
a job, It's a lifestyle. He was one hundred percent correct.

(32:24):
That's from Barry thanks to text. Truck driving is not
like driving a car. Most people don't drive trucks, have
no idea how much concentration it takes to keep yourself
on the road and everyone are safe. Honestly, there's always
some idiot in a car trying to kill you. Yeah.
I mean, my point I was just trying to say
to Jimmy was that I get completely shagged just driving
for five hours in a car with no not his job,

(32:47):
no pressure on me. Yep, you know. So I'm just
sympathizing that driving a truck would be so much more intense.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
It is exhausting.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, Rob, welcome the show.

Speaker 13 (32:57):
Yeah hello, Lead's great to be on the show. I
was in my little truck waiting to pick up a
couple of trailers off the Sory at that time, and
I heard the promo about about truck drivers and their life.
So I've got my B train on now and I'm

(33:17):
south of Glenham heading for christ.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Good Man good Man. So what is it like out
there at the moment, Rob, what's the pressures that you're facing.

Speaker 13 (33:26):
Well, I've been doing this for since the early seventies,
so I've owned a couple of companies and now I
just drive part time and I work for a few
different companies, so I see how different managements are. There's
always pressure and you know your guys look for like

(33:47):
Jimmy and your texts, they're all completely correct. Everybody wants theirs,
they want great service and it's always been a race
to the bottom to get the contracts. And of course
the drivers get stretched by trying to provide the service
and their wages so haven't probably gone up as much

(34:11):
as they shouldn't for the work that we all do,
because it is a pretty difficult job. I mean, if
you're you're piloting fifty plus come around our roads with
the quality of car drivers that we have, even some
of the truck drivers, you know you need.

Speaker 14 (34:31):
To be on your game.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, and how does that change? Rob? How do truckers
get that hourly rates up? I mean, there's so many
cost pressures across the board, isn't there?

Speaker 13 (34:42):
Yeah, Look I don't have an answer to that.

Speaker 15 (34:45):
To be fair.

Speaker 13 (34:48):
People drivers, if they're good, they will have recognized skills
that are transportable so they can move to another, a
better employer. But to be fair for the companies that
I work for, and that's sort of little to big

(35:08):
called up, and I enjoy doing the work. They are
saty conscious, they do things promptly, and there's no fisher
for me anyway. To bend the rules. I'm always asked,
have I taken a lot of break etcenta, et cetera.

(35:30):
So yes, there will be people, particularly online haul that
will bend the rules, especially contractors, But for a little
one man band contractor like myself, I think I'm pretty
well looked at and that's why I'm enjoy the job.
But look, I'm not doing its days a week if

(35:52):
I have done that, but now I don't, And I
do it because I love driving. I like being behind
the whell. I'm in a nice flash truck with tach
screens and good SEO.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
And what kind of truck is it? Rob?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh, the black zone of Kai Quarter has just got us.
But Rob, you sound like a good trucky, but.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's a cool truck. Are your back? Sorry you cut out?
What kind of truck you're driving, Rob, I'm driving a
bowlbo oh.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I yeah, solid, reliable.

Speaker 16 (36:28):
Look.

Speaker 13 (36:29):
I've driven everything over there last god knows how many years,
so even have a keem with with stickers on my surfboards.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Love it, Rob, thanks very much for giving us a
buzz when I.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Had a room covered in Kinworth posters.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
It's good. Look it is eight minutes to two. Beg
very shortly.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Mad Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.
It's mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
News dogs, b news dogs.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
There be five to two.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Hey freaking I had the exact same Kim with truck wallpaper.
I can still remember the yellow and red and there
must have been a couple on the too. Oh there. Yeah,
keem with wallpaper was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Matt. You drive a sex wheeler.

Speaker 17 (37:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've driven heaps of things over the years.
But I was going to say we're doing parcels and
food in particular. The pressure is pretty immense, especially if
you're late, because quite often it's not your fault. The
connection between freight is delayed being an activity or a

(37:36):
port or an airport or anything, and it just ruins
your whole day if you're late, because all the customers
are grumpy at you and you can't catch up on time.
And like the guy has said about missing your cut
off times, if you popped into a supermarket or a
food stuff or whatever, you might get turned away. Then
ruins everyone else's day, you know. Yeah, this is part

(37:59):
of the pressure of it all.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
But just a love that.

Speaker 17 (38:04):
Yeah, yeah, I usually do night shift. Is a guy
who's naming overnight the ringing all the time. But yeah,
just sort of. I was thinking about the most pressure
that I've faced over the youth. Then I'd say food
doing Mitro stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh righters, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (38:20):
From town to town as well. Yeah, yeah, but I
like it. I'll keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Good on in man, Thanks you for your call.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
You're going on, you go, well, you're one of the
truckies we need out there.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
The driver is correct about fourteen hours thirteen hours as
the legal and the extra one hour is traveling to
and from home, right okay to text his truck drivers
are the only guys who work eighty hours a week
and fill out a timesheet saying they've done fifteen.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, very true, great discussion. Thank you everyone who phoned
and ticks on that one. Coming up after two o'clock,
let's have a chat about Home Curll Homekoel butchers run
off their feet at the moment. So if you're in
the game or you're buying home Curll, O eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine to nine two is the text number. New Sport
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Speaker 2 (40:51):
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BJ McKay my favorite television show ever.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, but Friends out there first, okaj.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I mean, I know we're moving on from Trucks, but
I'll try and find that theme tune.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Please do I need to hear it? I need to
hear it right? This is going to be a good chat. So,
as we know, red meat price are pretty high at
the moment, and people are looking to their local butcher
to get more bang for their buck, buying less or
hitting out hunting, so cheaper cuts like mints and sausages,
as we now know, can now cost more than twenty
bucks a kilogram in the supermarket. But home kill is

(41:23):
absolutely taking off. This is the guy we're gonna have
a chat to a little bit later on, Aaron Pohatu.
But he's a home kill butcher in the Hawk's Bay.
He's been in the game for about twenty years and
he says he's never been busy at Demand for his
skills is skyrocketed it's grown massively. He says, I'm definitely busy,
busier than I've ever been in my life, which is
fascinating their own home old. Home kill business is something

(41:47):
that most of us. For me, as a city slicker,
I've never really considered it as an option.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah. Well, I actually thought until very recently that homekill
just meant that someone came around with the beast and
killed it at your house, did the dirty work.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, I mean what did I think it was when
you took it to a butcher and got it cut
up and you got all the bits, you know. I
didn't know that was what homekill was. I knew that
the two things existed.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, but I had no idea that the homekill butchers
were there. But he does say that a lot of
hunters are coming to him for his services because that
is obviously a really good way to get a lot
of meat. If you go out hunting and you bring
them the beast and they put it into saucys and
patties and salami, then that's going to save you a
heck of a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah. And I've just got a friend here that just
texted just just did a home kill it's the only
way to go. Sent me a picture of it, and
oh my goodness, that's just the half of it, as
a full chest freezer of bits of beasts.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I saw the picture before, all sorts of different cuts.
It's pretty much that that freezer is chocolate block and
it's a big freezer. Yeah, that is going to keep
them going for a long time.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
And she didn't know how much he paid for that.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, so I wight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're
into the home kill side of things, or you use
a home kill butcher, we're really keen to have a
chat with you. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty for
hunters out there as well. Is that the way to
go that? If you're in the hunting game, the old
home kill butcher? How much do you actually Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I mean, are you gonna do it yourself? Are you
going to hack it up yourself?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Seems like a lot of edmonds, a lot of work.
Shooting's one thing, and carrying is one thing, but then
to put it up yourself?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Are you like me? When I go fishing and you
know there's that you stop off at the wharf and
then in hand you fishing and there's a that gets
filoted for you. Yeah, and put in the in the
tubs or take them home.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, there's a designated filtter on the boat, and it's
never me. I'm never the designated pilater.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Oh man. If I'm fillerting, then there is a lot
being left on the fish.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, yeah, no one's eating.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
And also you know a lot of my blood left
on the fish as well.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Exactly right. Give us a buzz eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty home kill if you use home kill or
you're a hunter out there, really keen to hear from you.
It is eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Wow your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, said.

Speaker 18 (44:00):
Be.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Afternoon, fourteen past two, and we're talking about home kill.
A lot more people are turning to home kill butcheries
to save a bit of money with the price of
meat at the moment. If that's you, I on one
hundred and eighty ten eighty to number to call.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Home kills six hundred for half beasts, six hundred for butchery,
twelve hundred all up average seven dollars fifty per kg.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
That is a good deal. That is a really good deal.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Wow. So many people were a big fan of BJ
McKay and his best friend Bear and best of all,
I don't pay property tacks die. Welcome the show lamers
our packers.

Speaker 19 (44:36):
Yeah, so we do. We showed and trained and showed
lamers and our packers for twenty two years. And if
you didn't place in the ring, then you were in
the freezer. So yeah, we got in trouble with the MPI.
We used to because it's a big our packer. You
can get up to one hundred kg and meat off
in our packer.

Speaker 20 (44:56):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (44:57):
And we didn't realize how strict MPI were on home curls.
So we got a letter in the mail from them
saying that if we if they caught us, or we
continue to do it, we would get a seventy five
thousand dollars fine and three hundred hours community service.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
What's it got to do with them?

Speaker 19 (45:17):
MPI managed the home call which we never knew about,
and the lady came a lady came out to see
us to really prove the point, and we were really shocked.
So you're not allowed to actually sell or trade home
call whatsoever. In New Zealand. You cannot feed it to
your family if they come over for a meal, and

(45:39):
you cannot give it to workers who work on your farm.
Even we were really shocked at the rule book, the
rules that she had she gave us.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
So were you were you were you? Were you hacking
up the l packer at home? Or are you taking
it to a butcher?

Speaker 19 (45:55):
No, we had a professional home caill service come to
the farm and do it, you know, professionally, and he
had twenty two years avatire experience. And then he took
it to the butchers and Alismere who would make amazing
flavored sausages from it. They couldn't believe how lean and
healthy the lama and our packer meat was. The fat

(46:16):
count is really really low on them. But when we
went back to them, we said, laws on you know,
this is you can home tell for us. But we
literally were the only people on the farm who could
actually eat home coill. You can't sell it, you can't
trade it. It's a maximum fine of seventy five thousand dollars,
they told us, and three hundred hours community service if

(46:39):
they caught us. And we thought it was great. So
within our packer and lama friends. Because if you have,
if you're breeding and showing and training and things like that,
what are you supposed to do with all your golded
males that do nothing?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah? What does that mean? This is slightly off topic,
but what does ol pack and meat like.

Speaker 19 (46:58):
It's like, it's as tasty as lamb and as lean
as chicken. It's a color of the meat between chicken
and lamb, but really tasty, really lean, like when we
would do the lamb chops and then do the olpacker chops. Sorry,
there's no fat in the tray once you've grilled them
or fried them. Nothing, there's no fat on them. And yeah,

(47:22):
homekill guy has to be really skilled with his knives,
because we would get the hides off them and we'd
have them, we would take them to a guy a
tannery and he would make them into the most beautiful
hypoalergenic drugs. So beautiful rugs.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Wow, get a lot out of that animal.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Did your ol packers and alarmers have names? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (47:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (47:43):
So we've got young Yum on our flow here with
our stud mail for five years and everyone comes over
and goes too, it's a beautiful rug and we we
show them Yum Yum's ribbons and that, and then he
sailed in the ring and he got eaten.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So right, what was the best part of Yum Yum?

Speaker 19 (47:59):
Definitely, I wouldn't give away the steaks, so I'd never
let anyone have the steaks off the el packers or
the alarmers. They're my favorite. Yeah, and we get one
hundred and eighty kgs of meat off alamaw up to
one hundred, one hundred and twenty kgs off ol packer,
and the neck chops were amazing.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, they sound pretty good. I mean they say, don't
don't name the animals if they're set for the homekill,
but there's a way around it. Just call them Yum Yum,
tasty m burger shop yep.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (48:29):
Bacon and so Kevin.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Bacon love it.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, what sort of thing so you got? You've ever
run a lama salami?

Speaker 19 (48:39):
Yes, they tried that. It didn't work out as well
as the salami. They did make out of the lama
but not the old packer, but it just didn't have
enough fat content in it silami. Yeah, but we did
ham and we did lama bacon. They had to go
up to bacon and yeah, they were an award winning
sausage making butchery. And yeah, they wanted to put the

(49:01):
lamas in the Alpaka sausages in the following year. But
once we got once we got a visit from MPI
were with terrified.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, yeah we should, We'll look up the rules on that.
Absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
But I can't buy so I can't buy lama meat
or our pa.

Speaker 19 (49:18):
No, and she was very clear that we couldn't even
sell a lama to someone. If you have a lama
or no, say you have any meat on your property.
You're a farmer, and you have anything on your property
and you want someone wants to come out and buy
that to them put in their freezer. You have to
show legal ownership of that animal for longer than three

(49:40):
months for it to legally be their animal. To then
have home killed on our farm?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
How far have we fallen as a species from our
hunter and gatherer days. You get someone coming around to
threaten you because you're eating a beast.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
We wouldn't have survived.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Well, thank you so much for talking to us. Die,
that's really interesting problem. Ri ip yum yum. I wish
I was there to have some of his neck.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah, hides ound a pretty good. Day eighty is the
number to call if you're into the home kill business.
We'd love to hear from you. And if you like
die that you've looked at home killing the likes of Atlama.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
It's because of TB et cetera. Yeah, the old TEB. Yeah,
but I mean what I've just still I still stand
by it. How far have we fallen as a species
that we can't just eat any animal that we see
walking around?

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah, we're falling a lot as twenty pars too. Taking
more of your calls very shortly.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
It's twenty three pass too. So the price of meat,
as we know in supermarkets is sky high right now,
so people are turning more and more to homekill butchers
to get a better deal. If that's you, you love to
hear from you. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
This Texas says, I went to camel farm in Queensland.
They sell camel milk pie, salami, cheese, camel burgers, et cetera.
Google it lots of fun. Paul Sorr, I can't.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Call camel burger sounds pretty good. I don't know about
the camel milk, though.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, what's camel milk? I'm a beef farmer, I mean
what's camel milk? I mean, what's camel milk? I know
what camel milker is. It's milk that comes from a camal.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Yeah, but what would it you know, would it be
similar to cow's milk? Maybe it would.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Someone was telling me that whale milk milkers is very
interesting stuff. Whale milk. It's almost like it's like it's like.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Very solid, Yeah, quite thick.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Imagine, Yeah, like nessiles condensed milk, but even more solid.
Quite sweet, quite sweet. Yeah, but I mean whale milk.
We'll go out there and milk a whale. One what
mp I say about that? Someone's swimming out and trying
to milk whales. They were there off the coast of
co Coorda. I'm a beef farmer and we do homecooll
beef for ourselves. Don't get permission, never had a problem,

(51:47):
but we don't sell it. That's from Anna.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, good on your Anna. One hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call John. How are you?

Speaker 15 (51:55):
Yeah, I've got a bit emotional about the help. She
got quite seen the metal about those animals, doesn't she.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah, and a lot of empathy for young young.

Speaker 15 (52:04):
Yeah, empathy. I'm a farmer and we get home killed guard.
I'm just a little bit confused. You're you're you're kind
of conveying that anybody can go and get home called,
but you have to own the animal first, don't you.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, Well, a lot of hunters, so we're going to
have a chat to this guy, Aaron Pohado that runs
his own business. But from the reading of the story,
it is a lot Yeah, so you own the animal
or a lot of hunters are turning up, so a
lot more people get into hunting to try and save
a bit of money on meat as well.

Speaker 15 (52:37):
You're talking about the rural community doing home call versus
the people living in the city. They can't do home caill.
So it sounds like you're conveying anywhere can go and
do homekill. Gun't find an animal and get it killed
and that a home But that's not how it works. Okay,
well it's kind of how it was, but ye, I
mean home killers they come to your property and they

(52:59):
got the animal, take it away, butcher it feeze it
and then you go and pick it up and put
it in your freezer.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, yeah, and you can. But you can so if
you shoot a red deer, for example, you can then
take that in and get that chopped up as well.
You can do this so when you get when you
get home, kill John because someone some are saying before
that you can't give it to anyone outside of your family,

(53:27):
but that's not true. You can invite people around the
m P I doesn't mind if you invite people around
to eat a bit of your meat.

Speaker 15 (53:33):
No, no, I mean, I mean there's only two in
the family. A beast last a very very long time.
So normally you would either you would either sell it
to friends, sell a half or a quarter to friends.
I mean, that's that's that would be the most common
thing that's done on the rural rural New Zealand. I
would have thought.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
But you have to do that when you sorry to
jump in there. You have to do that when the
animals alive. So you sell it to friends, and you
might well you.

Speaker 15 (54:00):
Might just might have say I'm killing an animals. You
want to sell them half? Yes, okay? And they and
so you share the butchery car and you take a
schedule rate, whatever it is, what the animal is selling
as a as a live animal, whatever the scheduled beef
schedule is, and then you pay the butcher costs and
and and and that's it. So but that would be

(54:23):
very commoner. Not too many farmers. And well I shouldn't
say that, but I mean it's been the bigger families.
But a whole beast would last you know, two or
three people over a year just about, and then at
the end of the year you got all the well
they're not very nice cuts, you know, so most people
would would sell a half or a corner, so you

(54:43):
might you could have four people, three people that want
a quarter each. So yeah, that's how that's how it's
traditionally done.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
How much how much better?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Is?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
How much better is home kill meat? Or is it
better than supermarket meat? Can you?

Speaker 8 (54:57):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Once? Once you start on the home meat, does the
other kind of meat taste taste not up to the scratch?

Speaker 15 (55:02):
No, I don't think there's any any difference except you
know where the animals come from, you know, you know,
like I mean, killing them killing them in the panic
is a is a very important thing that that the
animal doesn't get stressed because that's the adrenaline gets pumped
through the animal. That then that can that can make
it quite tough. So you need to kind of stick

(55:24):
up on the animal, so to speak, or not let
it know. And they know they know, So that's that's
not a very nice part of the whole thing. They
don't want to see you let your grand kit see it.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't.

Speaker 15 (55:37):
Think there's a lot of difference. There's always there's always
the thing with home kills, whether you get your own
animal back, it's sort of like, oh, you know, might
get one that's been in the who arranges and it's
built like built like speaker and you and you get
back and it's as tough as old.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
That's the part I hadn't thought of it. So just
looking at the the mp I dot guft in Z
who can slaughter animals for meat. Home kill slaughtering can
be done by either the animal owner on their own
property a listed homekill or recreational catch service provider that
the owner hires. You can only hire a service provider
if you were involved in the day to day maintenance
of the animal or animals of the same kind for

(56:20):
at least twenty eight days. Right before it's slaughter. Who
can eat home killed meat? Homekill meat commeeting by the
animal owner, the direct family or household of the animal owner,
farm workers employed in a farm's daily operations, the farm workers,
family and households.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Yeah, very good. Right coming up after the headlines.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
So technically you can't, according to MPI, invite all your
mates around for a big homekill feast.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Which is crazy. What are they care? Right coming up
after the headlines, we are going to have a chat
with Aaron Pohatu. He's been a home kill butcher for
decades and he said he's been busier, never been busier
than he is right now. So we're going to have
a chat to him about why and what it takes
to be a home kill butcher. That is coming up
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Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
News talksb It's thirty twenty seven to three.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
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We were talking about trucking in the one o'clock hour,
so this might mean something to you.

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Speaker 2 (59:32):
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around in a Kenworth truck with a chimpanzee chimpanzee with
a little hat and as best mate as a lady
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Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yeah, well the Tics machines blowing up nine to nine
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Speaker 2 (59:52):
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Speaker 3 (59:55):
That was nice mate. Thank you for right back to
our discussion about home kill. So the story that we
read today, it mentioned a gentleman called Aaron Porhatu. So
he's been in the game for about twenty years and
runs his own home kill business, and Aaron joins us
on the line. Now, Aaron, very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 10 (01:00:15):
Oh, good afternoon, Thank you for having me on board.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Hey, how much is demand for homekill gone up? And
why are people getting so into it?

Speaker 10 (01:00:23):
Yeah, there's a massive demand for it, and it's quite
simple really, it's off the living and the price of
meat that's in the butcher shops and supermarket.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
So roughly, how much do you save compared to supermarket
meat prices?

Speaker 10 (01:00:36):
Erin, Oh, looking very it's hard to sort of put
a number on that, but it's a lot cheaper, you know,
it could be a third or two dudes cheaper than
what's in the retail world. But they obviously have to
provide their own meat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah, what's the sort of difference in taste quality that
people notice from their own stock or wild game that
that comes through you?

Speaker 10 (01:01:02):
Erin, Yeah, oh that, look, there's a huge there's a
huge difference. So homekill, you know, I put my heart
on that. It's the way to go. For example of
Ben speaking a lot about their venison, those animals are
grown in the most perfect organic conditions out in the world,
and you know, you shoot those and bring them in
and get things made. It's it's one of the best

(01:01:23):
meat you can possibly get your hands on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
And what is the what what is mainly asked for
in terms of the meat product. A lot of people
want saucy salami, steak, the whole she bang.

Speaker 10 (01:01:34):
Yeah, So an average day they would come in, they
want these steaks on the back legs and the back
steaks and then what they're trimmed. They've got options of sausages, meat, petties, saveloys,
mint balami, bears, sticks, cranks, geese, and venison corn venison.
You can also do venison bacon hams. Yeah, it's there's

(01:01:59):
heats that you can do with them now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
And of course that homekill works for those with farms
or if you're if you're out hunting, but what what
can urban families do? What options do the they have
around home kill?

Speaker 10 (01:02:10):
Yeah, they don't have much. You know, like I say,
MPI have quite strict rules on there. So you know,
if you if you don't have an area or don't
have an animal in your own, back out for twenty
eight days minimum. You you don't officially own it, so
you can buy an animal so and then they have
it for twenty eight days and then you can get
a flauded and then put through a home called butchery.

(01:02:30):
But you know, all for guys like myself, it's more
about the lifestyle. You know, the people that have gone
out of the land and they're running their own deep
in their own pigs. You know, it's not just the
hunting world. So you know there's farmers that are bringing
in beef. You know, there's still penny of that going on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
What's some of the more interesting things that you've butchered, Aaron, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:02:54):
I've done osages, and I've do a lot of ducks
to be honest and pass and so yeah, a lot
of birds and things there they're coming in. But like
I say, a lot of guys are out they do
hunting of innocent and pigs, but they also do a
lot of duck shooting and that sort of thing as well.
So they shoot a lot. They want things made with them,

(01:03:14):
and you can do it exactly the same stuff like
sausages and petties, which I mentioned earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, but if I came in with some possums that
I've peeled off a road, I wouldn't be able to
get you to cut those up and turn the midto
sausages what I own.

Speaker 10 (01:03:26):
Well, well I could, but you wouldn't get much off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
It, and there some good bossom stew in the time.

Speaker 10 (01:03:35):
But yeah, so you can still do that sort of thing,
you know, like look those options through out there for people.
You know that it's stuff out there. I recommend go hunting,
you know, get out there, and if you don't, if
you don't know hunters, like put it out there because
there are hunters out there there to do get a
lot of animals and are willing to give it away,
you know. So just let people know that you might

(01:03:58):
be struggling out there and there's anybody got things because
it is out there, and there's a good bartering system
that's going on there to help people as well.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
So there are options out there to supplemental you know,
your weekly income for buying meat and going to the supermarket.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Yeah, that's really cool to hear. So just break it
down for us, Aaron. So I'm just reading some of
your rough prices here, So it's about forty bucks to
bone out of beer? How much a kilogram to make
some saucy's? Roughly?

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
Are there seven fifty a kilo? And yeah, petties are
seven fifty, Minster's four dollars fifty and yeah, so you
know there's a mass of big changes, you know, and
the quality of the meat, and you know, like butcher's
the mice of my caliber. You know that we're we're
quite rare. We're a bit of a dying breed, you know,
butchers that can do the whole shooting box, you know.

(01:04:47):
So what I mean by that is Faster's petties, bacon Hams,
you know, the whole thing. Yeah, supermarkets, They've got big
companies that make all that for them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
And how can people get a hold of you? I'm
sure you're not sure of business at the moment, Aaron,
But do you want to give a week plug?

Speaker 10 (01:05:02):
Yeah? No, no, you can done. You can definitely just
look me up and punch in my name and you
can probably find me. I can give you my phone number,
that sort of thing. But just everyone just needs to
look up Aaron boor To and google me and you
you'll you'll come across me. I'm and haytiens Clive. There's
lots of other home caoll butchers around, these heaps of
us that are out there. I just want to stay
from myself and that I'm only a home kill guy.

(01:05:24):
I'm not a retail butcher. So yeah, MPI registered and
I provide a service for hunters and hope lifestyles, you know,
and that sort of thing. But I don't sell meat.
The only process.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Well, thank you so much, Aaron, so great to chat
to you. So that's Aaron Puhatu p h a tu.
Google him if you want his services.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Yep, and his company is A plus meat processing. If
you google that, it will pop up with his number.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
And been here Ben Ferget. It's around sixty to seven
cent cheaper the farmer and home kill meat eater. Ben's
has set to that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Through love that four bucks fifty for a kilo a
mins the year. That's unbeatable. Oh, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call if you're in
the home kill business.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
So you do it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
We're really keen to hear from you. Nine two ninety
two is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Hey, guys, you were talking about milk earlier. Alligator milk
would have to be some of the best expensive though,
as it's quite hard to get hold of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Yeah, tough job looking an alligator nineteen to one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
They'd be afternoon. We're talking about home kill, the rise
of people using homekill butchers with the price of meat
at the moment. Love to hear from you on I
one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
This text is good. Someone texts in about alligator milk before.
This is a good joke here. Alligator milk sounds like
a crock. That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
That is good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Stuf.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Peter, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 20 (01:06:50):
Yeah, how are you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Very well? So what's your thoughts about the old home kill?

Speaker 20 (01:06:55):
Yeah, look, I've just I'm just a lifestyler.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Really.

Speaker 20 (01:06:59):
I've got a few acrees, and I've got a few sheep,
and I've had some goats. Goat meat is what we
eat the most of and I'm just surprised no one's
mentioned the word goat this and then kiwis to just
have a real trouble getting their hands on it, you know,
or getting their mind around it. You know, what is
the most eaten meat in the whole world?

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:07:19):
Is it?

Speaker 21 (01:07:20):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
I mean, just on the old goat because I've seen
a few goats out in the back country when I've
been tramping, and from what I understand, those those bear
boys are pretty lean, you know, pretty pretty chilly. Is
the farm goat that's that's a better eating.

Speaker 20 (01:07:33):
Well, you know, my hunter as well. So you know,
you get to line up your own goat that you
want to take out of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
A bunch, so you don't really want to take the.

Speaker 20 (01:07:41):
One that's looking like it's been around, you know, twenty years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because they said, well, it's not about stringiness, it's more
more about the smell of them. You can't get near them,
you know, they just think to hey Heaven, you can't
get within about fifty meters of them. You're just kind
of going to run away. Yeah, but at a goat
that's up to around two years old, I've got to

(01:08:03):
shift background too. So I do on my own butchery
myself mostly, you know. I take the backsteaks off the
goat and they go into just a fry pan with
a bit of salt and pepper, a bit of casion seasoning,
and have a bit of chopped up mint with some
yogurt and toothpicks. They last on my Calendra for about

(01:08:26):
three minutes. You know, my family's eating them all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Well, do you do you ever run a goat a
goat curry?

Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:08:34):
Yeah, I've got goat curry in my freezer most of
the time and got plenty of there now it's it's delicious.
And something about goat meat too, it doesn't have a
fat that lamb has. And something else I was wondering
whether we've got a minute to talk about, and that
is antibiotics in you know, farmed a lot of farmed

(01:08:56):
meat these days, yep, you especially. I mean I don't
I don't know so much about the bigger animals, but
you know, something like a chicken farm in that that's
got twenty thirty thousand trucks on it, they get a
couple of trucks that drop off deet or something they're
cuick to get andy virus into.

Speaker 10 (01:09:14):
The whole lote.

Speaker 20 (01:09:15):
Yeah yeah, right, And so you know you just looked
that up and find out that it's not that good
for us.

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yeah, just going back to the goat situation, is a
you know, as a city boy, is tar or is
it shemy? One of those are related to the goats?

Speaker 10 (01:09:30):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Is it Tar? I?

Speaker 20 (01:09:32):
Think they're both related.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Actually, do you get any of those?

Speaker 8 (01:09:36):
They're both mountain goats.

Speaker 20 (01:09:37):
No, I haven't been down to get them.

Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
They're up, they're up in the South Island.

Speaker 17 (01:09:41):
I'm not down there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Sounds a hard yack.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Thanks to Col Pete, he thinks that goat is the
goat of meat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Very good, mate, very good, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yeah, it's not as good as this, someone said, alligator milk.
Sure as expensive. It'll cost you an arm and a lead.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Keep them coming, keep them coming, people, This is good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Surreal, surreal chat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Yeah, we love these bed jakes. We love them all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Father's down Sunday, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Yeah? Yeah, good. Point one hundred and eight eighty is
the number to call if you're into the home kill game,
or if you're a hunter. How easy is it to
find a butcher? Or do you do it yourself? Love
to hear from you, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 10 (01:10:25):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Very good. Afternoon. It is ten to three. With the
price of meat in the supermarkets at the moment, a
lot more people are turning to home curls. So we
want to hear from you if that is you eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
One reason for these strict standards against home kill is
so potentially dangerous meat doesn't find its way into restaurants
or your local food court. Makes sense. Commercial meat works
like MPI on site every day watching the whole process,
and they also have independent meat and spectors on site
through every shift making sure meat is safe. I mean yeah,
I mean in the end. I mean if people are
just you know, nipping the head off a cat and

(01:10:59):
skinning it and having it through a restaurant, you don't
want that to you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
No, you definitely don't want that. And how are you.

Speaker 13 (01:11:06):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
How are you very good? Ods? So home kurl goat meat?
You're all for it?

Speaker 8 (01:11:12):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (01:11:13):
Yeah, we used to eat goat meat a lot. We
had it running around the farm. They used to shoot
mark and used to shoot them when they were young,
about up to about two years old. Thereabout taste just
like lamb, except it's actually better because it's not.

Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
As seti And so where did you?

Speaker 16 (01:11:32):
Also, it's also known as chevron through the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Butchers chevron chevron yep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Nice? Do you know the reason it's called chevron.

Speaker 16 (01:11:42):
Wouldn't have a clue, but that's I think that was
just the given name. I know, apps make it more
palatable to Chinese.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Yeah, what's the part of the goat that you like
the most?

Speaker 21 (01:11:53):
And the leg?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
The leg just like a legal lamb, right lovely?

Speaker 16 (01:11:59):
And so I just used to roast it, so just
exactly like you do lamb.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
And what would you put on it? So just the
same as a lamb, you know, a bit of Rosemary's rosemary.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
So goat meet is called chevron, just purely for marketing reasons,
to make it more patible, I guess. Yeah, I'm just
looking at up actually, and you can still.

Speaker 16 (01:12:22):
Buy goats sausages in the supermarket.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah. Well, apparently the term was coined by a commercial
meat agency in the US, the meat and poultry farmers
and ranches industry. So the idea was, how can we
how can we get more goat through? How can we
get people eating more goat? And the idea they came
up with was to not call it goat. So I
wonder how that's gone for them. Yeah, it's interesting that

(01:12:48):
someone would buy something but not you know, you want
to know what the meat is right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
It's a smart play though, because if I saw chevron
in the supermarket and it's just meat, unnamed meat, I'll
be like, I'll give that a go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
It seems I'm going to find out what a chevron is.

Speaker 16 (01:13:02):
Yes, if you saw, if you saw a leg of goat,
you'd never know the difference between met and the legal
except for the howk the hawk is a lot longer.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Right, right, j goat meat all the way, Jamie, you're
a bit of a hunter.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Yeah, I'm a bit of a hunter. I've been doing
it all my life basically I'm now in my late forties.
But yeah, I just find it weird that you can't
sell game meat but you can sell it live. Like
I'm a guide, so I go out hunting and take
people out and they pay for the animal they shoot basically,
right Yeah, yeah, So I don't see what the difference

(01:13:43):
is if you can, if you Yeah, if I can
sell it when it's still alive and they should it,
that's fine. But if I should it, I can't tell
it to them.

Speaker 21 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
It's a weird loophole, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
And the only difference. Yeah, that is an interesting one,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
Yeah? Yeah, I prob they shouldn't have brought that out
because I know doubt someone's listening, and they'll probably bring
in a rule they will.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Say no when they bet a bloody not, they bet
a bloody not.

Speaker 6 (01:14:10):
So where do you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Where do you do the guide? Jamie? Is that down south?

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
I'm just dont I want to know? You actually a
little a little place called Mangam who probably you wouldn't
have heard of it, Alicia, look it up?

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
And and who and who do you take out? Do
you take out? You know anyone can book you to
take them out?

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Yeah, anybody can. Anybody can not really, I haven't advertised
that much at the moment. I just thought I've just
got a small crew at the moment. I'd rather keep
it that way sort of thing. But I just I
just thought i'd bring that up. It's just it's strange
that you can sell the you can guide people and
they'll pay for the animal for when they shoot them,

(01:14:51):
and you can't sell the meat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Jamie. It was because I keept thinking that I'm a
poor father because I've be't taken my son out, and
my son's out hunting.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
So if you want to take them out get in
touch with me. I'll give you a ball all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
But yeah, carry on, and what sort of what sort
the length trip are they? And stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Well, you know what its well, weekend trips, whatever you
want to do most basically, mate.

Speaker 14 (01:15:15):
How good?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
How good?

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
So you don't need a you don't need your own
gun or anything, Jamie.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
No, no, no, I've got my own gun that you
can that you can use.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
And yet yeah, it's all sort of good. I'll turn
up with my taser.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
It's going to be a good hunting trip, mate. A
right couple of texts to the news.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Hi, guys, we have a few sheep and a swamp
and a ram each year to breed lambs, usually seeing
three or four lambs per year, almost hog its size
one hundred and fifty five per lamb, sliced, and sausages
we sell to friends at cost. I can't believe it's
illegal to do what we do. The sausages are so lean.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
It sounds very good. And this one a hoy. Guys
lucky enough to have a friend with a dairy farm,
so beef got half a cow off them, one hundred
and ten kilograms at eleven bucks a kilo mint sauces,
mince burger, Patty Steaks. So good. Make friends with the
far you won't regret it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah, well i'll tell you what. People love the homekeel.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yeah, they absolutely do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
We've just had hundreds and hundreds of texts and full
lines for the whole hour. So great chat.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Yeah, great chat. And Matt's off to have a hunting
trip as well, so go well with that mate. Jamie
seems like a good man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, absolutely, make me. It's finally a proper dad. Just
some time for Father's Day right, coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
After three o'clock The exciting sports fixture of the weekend,
All Black versus South Africa. Massive anticipation, love to hear
from you. What way do you think it's going to go?
And if you're a South African fan really keen to
hear from you? Are your confident or are you nervous?
That is coming up very shortly? New Sport and weather
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the All Blacks versus South Africa huge excitement ahead of
this big match.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Yeah, absolutely, and the most excitement arguably since the two
thousand and eleven World Cup Final in terms of home games. Yeah,
you got that fantastic record at Eden Park. Thirty one
years since undefeated at Eden Park. It's nineteen thirty seven
that the Springboks last one at Eden Park. It's absolutely huge.

(01:18:22):
You feel the buzz across New Zealand about this game.
It's tense. I'm going along you are, I'm a little
bit I'm a little bit concerned. Yeah, you know, I
feel in my bones that the All Blacks are going
to win. But this is a serious challenge and how
exciting is that to just have a serious challenge an

(01:18:43):
ominous springs box team, the world champions coming to Eden
Park to challenge the AB's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
There's a spiritive energy about it, isn't it? Because it
is a bit of a tin coin toss according to analysts.
But kend to hear from you. I've got to say,
I'm incredibly nervous because, like many others, long backed Scott Robertson,
Rai's a fantastic guy. He's been up against it over
the last couple of matches and however, it goes on
saturdyday night. I just worry. I worry. I worry about

(01:19:11):
poor old Razor.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Well, this Texas, says you. Kiwi's a dreaming. The All
Blacks are cooked. This is the changing of the guard.
I won't bother with the exit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
It's a good exit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I'm assuming. I'm assuming this is from a South Afrian.
I know it definitely is. This is the changing of
the Guard as the best in the world long term,
if it isn't already decided. I'm a booker. I'm a booker.
I'm a booker. I'm a booker. I'm a booker. I'm
a booker. I'm a booker. I'm a booker.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Nicely said, Yeah, that is confidence. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. If you're a spring Box fan South African
living in New Zealand, how confident are you? Is this
the time that you are going to beat the All
Blacks at Eden Park for the first time since nineteen
thirty seven? And AB supporters out there, how you feeling excited? Nervous?
Are the AB is going to take it out? And

(01:19:54):
get on the phone. Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call, right now though it
is nine past three, every Friday on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
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first runner up for New Zealander of.

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
The Week, but there can be only one winner, and
the winner of New Zealander of the Week also gets
the Most Excited Home Gains Since twenty eleven Award.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
The last time we lost Betwixt your Walls. Bill Clinton
was in the White House, Jim Bolger was our Prime
Minister and no one had email yet the PlayStation one
hadn't even been released. Forrest Gump was the number one
movie at the box office, and every man, woman and
child in the stands had a sig hanging out of
their mouths. You are our nation's castle. The spring box.

(01:22:35):
Haven't beaten us on your beautiful green grass since before
World War II. Our national stadium, our fortress, a temple
of doom for opposition for over three decades. And this Saturday,
fifty thousand of us will pack you to the rafters,
and millions will watch at home and in our pubs,
bars and rugby clubs across this great nation as our

(01:22:58):
mighty soldiers in blacks suit up and go into battle.
But we will be challenged. And as a fan, I
see in your eyes the same fair that we take
the heart of me. A day may come when the
courage of our team fails, when we forsake our friends
and break our bonds of fellowship, an hour of wolves

(01:23:18):
and shaded shields, when the age of the All Blacks
record at Eden Park comes crashing down. But it is
not this Saturday. This Saturday, we fight by all that
we hold deer on this good earth. I bid New
Zealand stand up and fight Eden Park. May you reign
supreme for decades to come.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
For you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Ah the Matt and Tyler afternoons, New Zealander of the Week,
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Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
Howie Morrison, Madam Taylor, U's talk said be seventeen past

(01:24:24):
three and we are talking about that big showdown tomorrow
night at Eden Park All Blacks versus South Africa.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
And just a heads up, we are going to chat
with Sir Michael Jones All Blacks Great, the ice Man.
He's going to be joining us in about fifteen minutes.
Are looking forward to that, but ken to hear from you.
How you feeling excited, nervous South African fans? How confident
are you that this is the moment that you're finally
going to beat the All Blacks at Eden Park again
the first time since nineteen thirty seven. And AB's fans,

(01:24:51):
how do you think it's going to go?

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
This?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Texas says the AB's will win by five points. This
text of those they's no way the Ebbies are going
to lose. That game might be close, but they are fitter,
faster and will run rings around those big, heavy weighted
South Africans. Jonathan, welcome to the show.

Speaker 21 (01:25:08):
I here you going, buys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
What are you reckon about Saturday?

Speaker 17 (01:25:12):
Mate?

Speaker 21 (01:25:12):
I think that the spring Box I don't know what's
going to have to Mate. I think the All Blacks
are kind of the steam role of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
My mate stall the love your confidence.

Speaker 21 (01:25:22):
Mate, you know, but I'll tell you something. There is
something better than the All Black and the spring box, mate,
and I'll tell you what that is. Then the Warriors, mate, Yeah, look,
the All Bets and the Warriors.

Speaker 8 (01:25:35):
Mate.

Speaker 21 (01:25:36):
The Warriors have been playing so well recently, getting lost lost,
you know, lost of the lost behind. So I think,
you know, mat, the e Bects are going to step
up and I think they're going to sew up that
the Saturday seven pm and eat the park.

Speaker 20 (01:25:47):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
You're right and manly, what are you reackon about? Warriors?
Be manly?

Speaker 21 (01:25:52):
Then you're reckon with with Oh mate, it's gonna be
It's gonna be a it's a tough game, you know.
Mainly they cann't want to go out on the bank,
you know, in this season.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
So you know, Warrior is just going to play the game.

Speaker 21 (01:26:03):
And you know, at the end of the day, I
think the leadership of my years in Dame Special, She's
really going to carry that that team through. They're going
to get over the line. Maybe I'll give it twenty
four to twelve, sorry for to twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Good score, Yeah, but it's a bit concerning that. They're
wanting to give you Cheerry Evens a big send off
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Yeah, yeah, Jath, go to worry you.

Speaker 21 (01:26:22):
Your events is overrated. Leave to go and get a
big Maybe he doesn't even want to play footy anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
And what do you reckon for the A B South Africa?
What's your what's your school prediction?

Speaker 8 (01:26:33):
That's a tough one, mate.

Speaker 21 (01:26:34):
Look I'm thinking I'm thinking a blowout.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
For imagine that. I hope so, Jonathan, But.

Speaker 8 (01:26:42):
Forty, I'm actually a time traveler.

Speaker 10 (01:26:46):
I'll tell you that for free.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Yeah, I love it. Jonathan. You're a good man. Love
your passionate love you all right, go well mate, thank you,
thank you very much. O. One hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call love to hear your
thoughts and and your predictions for the AB's versus South Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
We were talking to that woman before about her her
home kill Lamas. Yes, and how good the neck the
neck chops were. Yes, Yeah, Cherry Evans, Dally Cherry Evans
would make some great neck chops. Wuldn't it? You get
some good nick chops out of the man's not the
tallest neck in town.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
You get a lot of meat on that neck right, Oh,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
in South African fans love to hear from you. How
are you feeling really keen to have a chat?

Speaker 10 (01:27:28):
Coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
We are going to catch up with Newstalk's edb's Voice
of Rugby Elliot Smith to get his thoughts. So that
is coming up very shortly. It is twenty past three.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
EDB, News Talks EDB. So excitement levels and nerves are
high ahead of the much anticipated All Blacks versus South
Africa match at eden Park's Saturday night News Talks. Edb's
voice of Rugby, Elliott Smith, will be commentating and he
joins us now, kiddo mate.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Afternoon, guys, hugely exciting. I'm hugely excited. How important is
this All Blacks unbeaten record at eden Park and what
will it mean to the nation and the All Blacks
if we should lose it.

Speaker 22 (01:28:14):
I think it's very important, but you've also got to
be realistic at some point, whether it's tomorrow night, whether
it is in five years time, three weeks time against
the Wallabies, whatever it might be, the record will go.
But it feels like with each passing test that the
All Blacks have protected it. The myth has grown, the
mystique around Eden Park has grown, and that is imposing

(01:28:34):
for opposition teams. But it's also I guess a bit
of a millstone for the All Blacks that they carry
this into each game they play at eden Park. Fifty
games without defeat, thirty one years without defeat at eden Park.
So at some point it's going to go. But I
think it is a you know, it's a record that
you want to protect as much as possible. The Springboks
have got allis Park themselves. They lost their a couple

(01:28:56):
of weeks ago to Australia. That's important. Every country sort
of has one of those. And when you can buy
the All Blacks and they're winning record over a number
of years and Eden Park, it is fiercely low and
in some ways it's why Eden Park remains that, you know,
the number one stadium in Auckland and any talk about
another stadium has sort of been quiet ANDed down because

(01:29:17):
everyone wants this record to continue.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
So do you think that that record as an advantage
to the All Blacks or to South Africa in terms
of mindset, I.

Speaker 22 (01:29:26):
Think it's an advantage to the All Blacks and all hones.
Stuff feels like a bit of an invincibility cloak. And
whether that happens tomorrow night and whether it comes to pass,
but it feels like, you know, they go in knowing
that it is a fearsome place for players to come.
You know, New Zealand's not great at creating atmosphere in
the stands, but it is imposing nonetheless, when you see

(01:29:47):
fifty thousand jerseys in black and that the pressure coming
on and you know a lot of these players in
the spring box haven't played at Eden Park.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
She's on.

Speaker 22 (01:29:56):
Kolby's been around for more than a decade across Super Rugby,
didn't play there in Super Rugby's at a test Korea
where he's won two Rugby World Cups. Never played at
Eden Park. So for a lot of these South Africans
it is going to be their first time at the
ving tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
You can feel it in the air, you can feel
the excitement absolutely, But is it, as people have been saying,
the most important home game in New Zealand since the
twenty eleven Rugby World Cup Final.

Speaker 22 (01:30:23):
I think it is in all honesty. You can probably
look back to the Lions in twenty seventeen and that
decided there. But this is the old foe. This is
South Africa. This is a team that rivalry goes back
one hundred years plus of playing South Africa. Aarrans why
they're reinstating the tours from next year. This is the
old foe. This isn't a team that's made up seven
or eight weeks beforehand like the Lions. And I think

(01:30:44):
that's why it means so much. And you throw in
the rivalry, you throw in Eden Park, you throw in
Ardie Saviga is one hundredth Yeah, I think it does
all that up to being the biggest test ince the
twenty eleven World Cup Final. There were thirty plus journalists
at the media session for Scott Robertson yesterday. There's a
real sense in the air that something big is happening.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
To me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Yeah, let's have a talk about Scott Robertson, one of
the hardest in the country being the All Blacks coach.
How do you think he's feeling is the pressure on
Razor and his other coaching staff as well.

Speaker 8 (01:31:14):
Well.

Speaker 22 (01:31:14):
He's been quick this week and he's been asked about
the pressure that he's feeling and trying to turn that
into a positive. If you didn't have nerves, if you
weren't feeling the fear of losing, then you're in the
wrong job. So he's tried to turn that as much
into a positive as you possibly can be. But no
doubt he'll be feeling the pressure. He's coming off a
loss and now has to go to Eden Park and
beat the reigning world champion, so the heat will be on.

(01:31:37):
Andy've had Sir Graham Henry in camp this week way
and Smith's been there as well, just making sure that
all the eyes that dotted the teaser cross and sweeping
through and going if you thought about this, what about this?
And I think that's an ultimately good thing for the
coach because you might go, actually, no, I didn't think
about this. Let's try and implement this come Saturday night
as well. No doubt he's feeling the pressure, but as
I say, he's tried to flip that into a positive

(01:31:59):
as much as possible this week.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Now, speaking of losses, who has momentum coming into this
game considering South Aflica got humiliated at Ellis Park, Westralia.
No one thought that was going to happen, and then
of course what happened to the All Blacks with Los Pumas.
So who has the momentum?

Speaker 22 (01:32:15):
Maybe South Africa, just because they've got a lot of
that World Championship winning team still with them from twenty
twenty three. Hondred Pollard's at ten, Si Callis's playing tomorrow night,
but isn't the captain. All through that team are veterans
that know those big game moments. You look at the
All Blacks and they're building towards twenty twenty seven. For
South Africa, it still feels like they've got twenty twenty

(01:32:36):
three and hanging on without wanting to be disrespectful because
you've got great players in there, but they have that
World Cup winning experience, whereas the All Blacks are building
towards the World Cup. So I think in terms of momentum,
you have to give it to the box.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
So you think the hype around South Africa is real
because when you look at that World Cup, we're talking
three points as what got them the World Cup and
in the final one point they're on the.

Speaker 22 (01:32:57):
Right side of those three points, you know against France
and the quarter against England, the cemi against the All
Blacks in the final it was one point. But they're
on the right side of the ledger each time and
that takes, you know, takes a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
And finally, so South Africa threw it around against Australia
a little bit and got punished for it. So what
are we going to see, specially considering our problems under
the high ball in Argentina, what are we going to
see from South Africa?

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
I don't think there'll be a lot of throwing it around.

Speaker 10 (01:33:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:33:25):
Tony Brown's voice at the Springbox team meetings this week
might have been sort of drowned out by Russy Erasmus
going Nope, we're going one way, singular ball in the air,
using our forwards and playing that spring Box mentality that
we know. So the All Blacks they know what's coming.
They're going to be peppered under the high ball all
night tomorrow night. It's how they respond. And the pressure

(01:33:46):
obviously is on the All Blacks and that they've got
to try and throw that back at the spring Box.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
How are you calling it? I'm going to say right now,
I think the All Blacks are going to win this.
I've got that feeling before. We've felt like this at
Eton Park. But I just think that coming in there
and the All Blacks, and I think losing against Argentina
as a thing, sure, but I just I feel it
in my bones that we're going to have it.

Speaker 22 (01:34:06):
I started the week saying all Blacks by fire, and
I've decreased that by a point every day now at.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
All Blacks by two, So we'll take it.

Speaker 22 (01:34:14):
It's still an All Blacks one.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Yeah, lovelyly Elliott, enjoy it, mate, line of excitement and
everybody's looking forward to that. So the coverage starts at
six pm and it's going to be live here on
News Talks, A B and gold Sport. Enjoy it, mate.
I'll be listening and go, well, can't wait. Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
I'll be watching you from your right where my seats are.
When you're calling, I'll give you away.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
Goom mand. That is Elliot Smith, Newstalks, hed Be's Voice
of Rugby. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Hope you're
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Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Thank you very much, Scarlett. So it is twenty seven
to four in my O. My, we've had so many
pationate techs come flooding into the text machine from South
African fans and All Black fans, and we're going to
get to a few of those very shortly. And just
a reminder, so Michael Jones, one of our greatest ever
All Blacks, will be joining us in about seven minutes time,

(01:36:14):
so looking forward to having a chat with him. Right now.
It is twenty seven to four, Tayloradas. So, Greg was
we is an All Black supervan. He's about to take
off a mass of milestone as an All Black spectator
and he joins us on the line. Now, kid a, Greg, Hey,
how's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
So this will be your hundredth All Blacks Test on
Saturday night.

Speaker 23 (01:36:39):
Yes, one hundredth Test match, and so I'm treating as
one hundredth cap.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Fantastic that what one hundredth cap it is too, you know,
arguably the most significant game home game since twenty eleven
World Cup Final. What was your first test? Greg?

Speaker 23 (01:36:55):
Yes, it was way back in July nineteen ninety five
was actually Eden Park. Was a young whippersnapper back then,
so seventeen years of age, and I still remember catching
the supporters bus up from Harboro and Taranaki and making
it through sitting on the old terraces at eden Park.
So I just felt like yesterday. So fast forward thirty

(01:37:17):
years and I'm here today.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Yeah, so ninety five that's just inside the current unbeaten
record of thirty one years at eden Park. So when
did the hundredth Test start to become into view as
an idea sort of You've clocked up thirty forty at
some point you must have thinking, you know, I'm going
to make the ton here.

Speaker 23 (01:37:35):
Yeah, I'm an old tragic from wayback, so it was
probably early two thousands I kicked off spreadsheet. So the
spreadsheets that's actually quite elaborate now with all the results, locations, stadiums,
and I've got some pre cool pivot tables sitting over
the top of it now. And I've I've got a

(01:37:56):
pretty a pretty awesome man cave back at home and so,
and I've always collected my match tickets and most of
them are all framed up in my cave. So you
have plenty of great memories there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
How good? And what are some of the most memorable
tests that you've attended?

Speaker 23 (01:38:10):
Greg, Maybe for the wrong reasons, I go back to
the two thousand and three Rugby World Cup in Sydney,
some some bad memories back there against Without a doubt,
the two thy eleven final in Auckland was right up
there with the best. Actually, I really loved the experience
in Chicago when we played Ireland. Might have been a loss,

(01:38:32):
but that experience was like top shelf Hong Kong was awesome.
The Bleeder is low up there and obviously going to
twicken him as well, you know, obviously get a win
against the English as always top shelf in their backyard,
and going to Cardiff as well against the Welsh.

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
It's just amazing, amazing atmosphere there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Now, Greg, you said that you've got a spreadsheet and
it's pretty detailed. What are your stats looking right, win, loss, etc.

Speaker 23 (01:39:01):
Yeah, it's pretty good without a doubt. If I look
at some of the negative numbers, Wellington's been a bit
of a gatard for me with four loss. On the
positive side, thankfully, Eden park one hundred per win ratio,
plenty of losses in Sydney, a handful down at Melbourne. Yeah,

(01:39:23):
the I think the average score is about thirty two
points to seventeen. Yeah, so obviously in favor of the
All Blacks there not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
And what are the celebrations looking like for your big day?
I understand Zidara getting behind you.

Speaker 23 (01:39:42):
Yeah, they absolutely amazing. They've really gone way above the
call of duty. So we've got the Captain's run coming
up later today and we've actually we've got a capping
ceremony with one hundredth caps, so hopefully I don't jinx
that I'm celebrating a bit too early. And then got
a dinner book tonight with with twenty two friends coming

(01:40:05):
along here in the city. And then apparently I've got
a little surprise waiting for me.

Speaker 5 (01:40:10):
At Eden Park.

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Wow the game tomorrow night.

Speaker 23 (01:40:13):
So yeah, I'll tell you. Everything's just been amazing and
the build up's been awesome. As soon as I knew
what the draw was late last year, I started meticulously planning.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Yeah, well good on you, Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
What an awesome guy that is Greg Wasley, all Black
super fan about to take off a massive milestone spectating
is one hundred All Blacks Tess match on Saturday. How
good coming up All Blacks? Great? Sir Michael Jones joins us.
It is twenty two to four.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said,
be it is twenty to four.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
So what can we expect or hope for on Saturday
night as the All Blacks face off with South Africa?
Huge anticipation, huge match. Sir Michael Jones is one of
our greatest All Blacks and has given an enormous amount
back to the sporting and PACIFICA communities as well. And
Sir Mike joins us on the phone right now, very
good afternoons you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yeah, Matt and Tyler, Hey, thanks so much for thanks
for so much talking to us. It's awesome to have
you on the show. Why do you think it's so
hard to beat the All Blacks at Eaton Park?

Speaker 24 (01:41:26):
Well, certainly that Leaden Park is it's got a certain
mistique and that you know it is for us New
Zealand rugby plays and particularly those are spot the All Blacks.
That is the field of dreams. I mean it's always
been that for me, and I know that you know,
there's a there's a certain wonder about that space in place,

(01:41:48):
particularly when the All Blacks are playing, So you know,
when we have our our people there and and and
it's packed and it's full, and it's particularly in a
or anytime as a day, but on those sort of
cooler wintry evenings, which is probably going to be a
game tomorrow night, there's something about it. It just has

(01:42:09):
a certain you know, sort of spiritual sort of energy
and presence and it works in our favor. And I
think there's All Blacks we've just learned how to use
it to our best advantage and optimize and capitalize on
that advantage. And that's just something that the All Blacks
had done really well for, you know, for these gets,

(01:42:30):
for these you know, three odd decades.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
And speaking of Manor, you've famously scored the opening try
against the spring Box and the first day of a
Rugby World Cup match in nineteen ninety seven. What's it
like playing the spring Box compared to other teams.

Speaker 24 (01:42:43):
Yeah, I mean it's always been you know, I know
for me growing up in sort of the seventies, and
I was provisibly part of that first of all Black
team that went back in ninety three, not sorry, ninety two,
you know sort of post you know, post post the
apartheid period and where we had been sort of you know,
there was no contact mug be sporting contact for the

(01:43:05):
rest of the world, and we the All Blecks hadn't
been back in an official anyway. So I was part
of that. And I think most of us who walked
off that plane fort of you know, touching South Aurrafkan
sas like probably heard many of us say that we
used to sort of kissed the kiss the ground, because
that's always been for us. For me growing up and

(01:43:25):
watching Sir Ron Williams playing them and that sort of
shady black and white footage in the seventies, it was
always pinnacle and I suppose the benchmark in terms of,
you know, really what was the toughest team to play
and particularly when you played there, you know, the toughest
environment to play. And I don't think that's changed for anything.

(01:43:47):
That's become even more so and become more entrenched.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
So back to Saturday, do you think we're ready for
the inevitable high ball assault that's coming our way?

Speaker 24 (01:43:58):
Yeah, I know that's been an area that you know,
we've been sort of putting a little more pressure on
our back three in particular, and or anyone under the
high boards secure. And yeah, I'm sure it's going to
come our way. That you know, they play in Russia.
Risthmus is obviously one of the most innovative, creative, outside
the box type you know, coaches and strategic minds around rugby,

(01:44:24):
world rugby. And and he'll he'll he'll be wanting to
exploit every weakness he season. I think it's coming, but
I'm sure that and I feel confident. I'd like to
feel very confident that our boys have been working hard
at that. You know, we're one thing about the All Blacks.
We're really good at, you know, working at at the
areas that we need to sort out. I know sometimes

(01:44:45):
we feel that it should happen yesterday, but I think
it's you know, in terms of the personnel we've got
back there now, and obviously you know Will and and
Money and and and Rico, you know, even Billy and Jordie.
I think I think, I think they're going to be
really ready for it. And I think again we're going

(01:45:07):
to have to turn something that the opposition sees into
weaknesses and strength and I'm confident we'll do that and
with that that that's again sort of been the platform
on which we can we win tests. Aditon Park.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
We are chatting to All Blacks, great to Michael Jones,
Micael review felt and it seems to be a lot
of anticipation, a lot of excitement, a lot of energy.
Everybody is talking about this game. Are you feeling that
out in the community, that hype and that's electricity out there?

Speaker 24 (01:45:34):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know that out number one
in the world. I know that day there's a bit
of spluttering with the playing the Aussies, but we know
that when they come and play us, whether it's here
or there, this is what this is the pinnacle for
them too. And it's such a hearty respect between the
spring Bocks and the All Blacks. And you know, I

(01:45:56):
think again in terms of the share combat and the
mental and physical and then every way test of your
mental as an All Black, there's nothing like playing the
spring Box and that's the same for them. So you
sort of sense that out there, you know, just people
are talking about it. You know, people are excited about it,
and I think again, it just really captures the imagination

(01:46:19):
of the rugby public, because yeah, there's something about that
sort of you know, dark green jersey with those gold
collars and white shots going against the all blacks. Nothing
like it. Yeah, there absolutely is such a real excitement
around the around the around the place, and that's great
for rugby. And it's going to be an amazing night.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Yeah, it's it's exciting and terrifying. Now, So Michael, I'm
going to put you on the spot here, which way
do you think it's going? And are you willing to
make a points prediction for Saturday night?

Speaker 24 (01:46:55):
You know, I just know with Ardise hundredth schame, I
just don't sense that our boys will let them down
and let us down. I mean, you know we I
think I think they they're they're acutely aware of of
what it means to be playing at the fortress and
defending that tradition, you know, that legacy of those have
gone before the war in the black jersey. And again,

(01:47:17):
Idea epitomizes that and he he, you know, he symbolizes
everything that's right and good and and I suppose that
is absolutely embodied and the values and the standards of
your black jersey. So what's that sort of a long
winded refy. I was, I was, I was, I was

(01:47:40):
biting for time. But yeah, we're gonna, we're willin, we'll win.
I'd like to think between five and seven points, and
we'll be happy for at one point when of course,
but hey, let's let's I'm feeling good about tomorrow night
and the fact that you know there's there's something to
really celebrate and and really play for. It's always a

(01:48:00):
case for any All Black tests, but against the Springbrocks
Addington Park at ease hundredths, that's that's the way I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
Yeah, he lover when by five to seven points would
be amazing. Sir Michael, thank you very much for having
a chat with us. Really enjoyed it.

Speaker 24 (01:48:16):
My chis thanks thanks Toner.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
That is Sir Michael Jones ahead of the massive match
against the All Blacks in South Africa Eden Park tomorrow nights.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
What a legend this Texas says, how did you muppets
get the great Sir Michael Jones on your show? Awesome?

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
We don't know. I know it's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
And another text feel that man's mana.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, an amazing man. So many texts have
come through ahead of the game. This one says, kddy
guys ex All Blacks fan here. When Razor threw a
pick me or house during the Boys World Cup last year,
that was uncool. So go South Africa. If you want
to see exciting rugby rugby, watch as Ozzie's Joe Wallaby's
team party at Tony Brown's.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
I live in New Zealand, but I grew up in
South Africa and all I can say is go the
All Blacks. This Texas said the last time the spring
Box played at Eden Park was twenty thirteen. Why are
you emitting that fact? What do you mean in missing
that fact? You don't list every single fixture? I think
so the last time they won is nineteen thirty seven. Yeah,
all right, exactly take that text at Eden Park. Yeah,

(01:49:20):
this one.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
I would love to see the All Blacks win, but
I think the Box might just take it out. I
hope not. I'd rather the Wallabi Wallabes beat us first
and then the spring Box at Eden Park. I reckon
it's going to be twenty five to thirty to the Box.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
This one says the All Blacks are going to lose
because Tyler pronounces rugby Rubby. I don't know if that
does that does that?

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
I mean, it can't help things.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
I mean, you're a powerful you're a powerful man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
I don't know if it's gonna gonna change. I mean,
if already heard me say Rubby, I don't think it's
going to matter one iota.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Yeah, he'd be like, I don't care if it's one hundredth.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
It was, say, who's that tyler? Guy?

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Who cares? I can't take the weight of a pronunciation
of rugby.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
There's a lot of Wallabees supporters coming through. The Wallabies
gave the Box the run arounds in the Abs players
are twice as good. It's going to be an absolute
walk over the All Blacks by twenty points.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Boys. I understand why we're nervous because we just lost
to Argentina, But how the Box just lost one to
Ozzie and we're lucky it wasn't too Why are they
so damned? Confidence is Dave?

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
I love it right?

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
The six says you. You lads know the all Whites
are playing Australia tonight and the soccer ashes. Don't you
Whinn't you're talking about that?

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
We all because we read that out bakely. But we've
chosen to talk about the All Blacks on on a
Saturday night because it's the most exciting home game of
rugby in this country since twenty eleven Rugby World Cup Final.
It beats the beats the lines.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
This is hugely excited, absolutely fizzing for it. Right it
is nine minutes to four. Back very surely you're listening
to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 6 (01:50:58):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
It be.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
News talks, it be. It is six to four.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Saying so much for listening to the show this afternoon.
How great was it to have Sir Michael Jones on
the show. What a great New Zealander heres, And thank
you so much for all your texts and calls of
the duration of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
Now we love our callers, of course we don't. We
like to celebrate with a call of the week, and
this week we had such a great hour talking about
what dads really wanted Father's Day that we did things
a little bit differently to recognize the bloody great dads
in our lives.

Speaker 10 (01:51:31):
The best thing for me is just time with my
son and he's twenty hours and you know we get
to play golf for well, you know, don't have a
drink or a meal, And I reckon, it's just the
best thing ever.

Speaker 8 (01:51:40):
I enjoy every day working up to post my kids.
That's Father's Day for me. I don't put a lot
of credence on material stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
It's just about spending time with my kids and men
wanting to spend time with me, giving.

Speaker 8 (01:51:53):
Back to them and letting them know on there for
them no matter what happened.

Speaker 15 (01:51:57):
That's what a dad does.

Speaker 13 (01:51:58):
A sleep and a burnt breakfast and my bed reflection
of craft bears.

Speaker 8 (01:52:03):
And then me and my mates are going out for
a game of goal. All all of our mates did
used to part from my own friend and his wife
if he has to spend the day with the kids.

Speaker 17 (01:52:11):
So I have this thing.

Speaker 24 (01:52:12):
When I have a birthday, it's called birthday month, so
I figured it should be Father's weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:52:16):
I reckon while making the top four.

Speaker 20 (01:52:19):
Friday Night Abs beating the box Liam podium at Monza
and the Bengals beating the Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
And I wouldn't care if the kids bacon and.

Speaker 24 (01:52:30):
Obviously happy.

Speaker 8 (01:52:31):
It's going to be my first Father's Day on Sunday,
But I sort.

Speaker 11 (01:52:34):
Of just treat it the way I drink my birthday.
I don't really like anything extravagant my birthday, just something simple,
like maybe even to the game you can play online
with the boys, and even better the free time to
actually plan it without being bothered. I did love what
the previous call is said as well, like spending time
with my son. It's going to be something I'm definitely.

Speaker 13 (01:52:51):
Keen to do as the years go by.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
A man emotional stark man, that's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Happy Father's Day till all the fathers and a wind Saturday,
and it would be a good start to the celebrations.
Absolutelyful Matt and ty laughter. This podcast will be out
and about now, so if you're missing about great chats,
tune into that where you get your Pard's the powerful
Hitherdically Slander is up next. But why am I playing
this song?

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
My good friend, oh the great Scribe. He is retiring,
but not before he releases one more album called Scribe
is Dead. Good canted, good Rugby fan.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Yep, he's unsubscribing from his career.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Very good mate, well done, all right, all right, go
to the abs.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
And give him a taste at Kiwi. Thanks for listening,
and we'll see you on Monday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
That many, if Anny, that many, if any.

Speaker 8 (01:53:39):
You know caupskin going like this, stick it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
Out, check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Do please give it up.

Speaker 10 (01:53:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:53:49):
That's all you come to, mother.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Do please give it up.

Speaker 7 (01:53:56):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
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