Full Show Podcast: 06 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell you, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, one eight for Tuesday,
the sixth of May twenty twenty five. We've just got
off here and heard a fantastic story about a woman
kicking heir crew in the balls repeatedly, so that's worth
the wait. We've also had a bunch of interesting calls

(00:37):
around something that happened at the start of the show
that I can't remember were first topic was. It was
being positive and polish about this great little country. We've
got some uplifting stuff at the start of the show,
people that love New Zealand and a real push to
shut the winges up in this country. And also that
I really enjoyed the meme memes coin shat. So it's

(00:59):
a really good show today, Tyler at a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yep, me too, absolutely, and we'll do it all again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, So enjoy, sit to down load and follow and
such and good taste. KII all right, okay, then love
you bye.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
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Talk said.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Be.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
We'll get ad you welcome into the show Tuesday afternoon,
six past one. Hope you having a great day where
ever you're listening in the country. Get a Maddie again,
A Tyler. Good everyone. I watched a movie last night
that I thought was good. Oh yeah, and I want
to tell you about it please.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's What's Inside. That's what the movie is called. I
saw it on Netflix and it's a It's a horror
slash sci fi. So basically what happens is is a
pre reading, pre wedding reunion and then turned it descends
into a psychological nightmare. A bunch of college friends and
one of them turns up who's become a bit of
a tech successful in tech and works had a way

(02:01):
to change their personalities between their bodies. So they get
involved in a drinking game where say, if you and
me were involved with some change personalities, and horror and
hilarity ensues.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh, this feels like a movie that would just create
a lot of anxiety.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's pretty it's pretty complicated. You might want to have
a pen and paper to write down who's becoming who, just.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So you can follow the characters as they go between bodies.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Because some people go between bodies pretend to be someone
else to confuse the situation, and some people make pacts
to say that they're going to be tend to be
that person, and then next thing you know, someone sees
their girlfriend heading on someone else and someone else's body,
and it's very confusing.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's called it's wats inside. Yeah I've just said, look
looks creepy. Yeah, but funny as well. Yeah, yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
But like you know, it's a real comment on the vacuousness,
the vacuous, vacosity, viscosity, the vacuousness. Yeah, okay, I'll say
that the different way. How vacuous social media influences are. Yeah,
love it because there are all a bunch of influencers
as well. Yes see, a all of those.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Things you said were words, by the way, I was
quite impressed that you went through those and they were
all actually words.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
That was briskiness, Yeah, viscosity, viscosity is more around the liquid.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Anyway, it was appressive. It was very impressive and a
good movie.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
There's some vacuous people in this movie. It's good.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, very good. Right on to today's show, After three
o'clock bad behavior on flights on the back of a
story in New Zealand had to delay a flight to
LA because of bad behavior.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I love a bad behavior on flight story. So
I want to talk about bad behavior on flights, what
you've witnessed and what you think should be considered bad
behavior on flights? What's borderline? Marched this person off for
their behavior on a flight, and recline when someone's dining.
Never recline when someone's trying to dine. I think I

(03:55):
think under those circumstances, people should be man handled and
put in the brick into your land.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Maybe a bit of tasering boot. Yeah, it is after
three o'clock, after two o'clock. Mean coins, they've taken the
crypto world by storm. You, even if you don't quite
know what they are. I imagine you've seen some of
the names like doge coin or shebu in you. They've
been all over the news. Hook Tour was another one
that's got that particular woman into quite some trouble.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
There's the Trump and Malania coins, there's the there's wiener Ai,
there's Kanga Moon there's egg dog, there's popcat. There's so
many difference. There's the pizza coin, there's some quite lude
to him. There's sad hamster coin, bonk coin, sponge coin.

(04:42):
So you might know a little bit about crypto like bitcoin,
but mean coins are next level. On the surface, they
seem like a horrific scam, but a lot of young
people are getting into them because they see themselves locked
out of the economy. They see it very difficult to
get onto the property market and maybe carrying a lot

(05:02):
of student debt, you know, and they see this is
a way to get rich, and they are ridiculous the
mean coins, that's the whole point of them. They're tied
to jokes and trends, and they'll almost certainly blow up. Yeah,
But the thing is, can you write it and make
the money before they blow up? So what are mean coins?
Have you traded in a mean coin? Has it blown up?

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Or did you make a whole heap of cash? Should
they be celebrated, derided or ignored.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's going to be a good chat, that is after
two o'clock, because right now, let's have a chat about
how you're feeling about this country at the moment. It's
on the back of a comment Sir John Key made
on the Mike Hosking Breakfast Show this morning. Here's a
bit of that answer.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
You still get that feeling when you come home to
New Zealand where this it's more than just look it's
a nice place to live in there. Every country you
go to has significant problems. So my point is that
is the same one I always used to make when
I was primeans lot. We have tyranny of distance, always
been our problem. We're at the bottom of the world. Well,
actually technology is changing that very rapidly in helping us.

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We also are very small.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
So while we, like.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
You know, I have sympathy for chrys Luxance pem slow
to turn things around, but we're still a lot quicker
to turn around in a bigger country. I mean, can
we with the right policies, with the rights of the
level of confidence, with the right sense of enthusiasm, could
we actually make New Zealand you know, a fantastic better
place than it currently is. We're a great place to

(06:30):
grow things, We're a beautiful place to visit. Do we
need to do a hell of a lot better and
play our SOPs up and actually do we need to
be more welcoming to foreign capitals. Smart foreigners want to
come and live here. These stupid things like, oh I
can't come here and buy a house. I mean, for
god's say, if they've got an IQ that's well above
one hundred and they're bringing capital or whatever, let's have
them in the country generating jobs.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
But can we do it?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
The answer is absolutely we can. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
So, I mean that answer was a long winded way
to say that he's very bullish on New Zealand, and
I think he had some interesting points as he made
that answer.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, we're isolated, but Tecker's changing that to a certain extent.
It still takes a long time time for our profits
to get somewhere. But yeah, we're definitely changes and technology
are making us less isolated in a number of ways.
We're small, there's no doubting that, and arguably that does
make us nimble. We can grow things, that's for sure. Certainly, again,

(07:24):
our agrotech is incredible, and you know, our our agriculture
sector is incredibly productive. But are we welcoming to foreign
capital and are we welcoming to smart, rich people, as
John Key suggests, we need to be. But I think
underlying all what John Key's saying there is that if

(07:45):
we have the attitude, if we have the attitude to
try and make our country a better and more productive place.
I don't know if we are you getting that vibe
one hundred and eighty ten eighty because me it's he
seems like it's become fashionable in New Zealand and complain
and say things are too hard, But are they really

(08:06):
that much harder than any other time? Or there are
a lot of opportunities out there. I mean, you're unlikely
to starve to death in New Zealand if things go wrong,
try something and they blow up in your face. In fact,
if you're poor, you're actually more likely to become a beast.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, very true.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, So is it just a mindset thing it is?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I mean when you mentioned their ambition and I picked
up on that that we have I think lost our
ambition in this country. And I think we've lost our confidence,
you know, whether that was after COVID.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It just feels like we've.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Been in this malaise that we like to winge and
we think it's never going to be better, and we
like to say this country stuff we never used to
be like that we used to actually have in most quarters.
I meant of part of that.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
We used to shame people for winging. Winging used to be,
but now people seem to be celebrated for winging.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, there's two texts on either side of this. On
bullish one hundred percent, I'm just in the process of
buying a franchise on top of my business and employing
four more staff, going to die wondering. Good on you.
There you go. Whereas this person's the opposite end. So
where do you sit on this shl waye hundred at
eighty ten eighty? Where do you sit on the spictrum
around here? New Zealand is the worst place in the

(09:18):
world to do anything. I'm saving up to leave, which
is nearly impossible on a benefit. Most I can save
it's thirty bucks a week, so ten weeks and I'm out,
never looking back. It's crappier. Well, you got to look
inside that Text's a couple of things here. Firstly, it
can't be the worst place in the world if you've
been put on a benefit, because the worst places those
places of the world where the textpayer doesn't and hand

(09:41):
out a benefits. Right, You've got a safety in it here. Secondly,
it seems like they've only just started saving. Most I
can save, it's thirty bucks a week, so ten weeks
and I'm out. So have they just started saving? And
thirty bucks because a flight to Okay, let's assume they're
going to Australia. I'm just assumed here that this person's
going to Australia.

Speaker 9 (09:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
You can get to Autralia for about a round bucks. Yeah,
so they think this is the worst place in the
world and they're going to save their benefit to go
and that's teen So if they just they haven't even
started saving yet.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
No, And I don't want to be harsh here, but
if you're not cracking it here, I mean, are you
really going to crack it in Australia?

Speaker 10 (10:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?
Are you bullish about New Zealand? And if you think
we've lost our ambition? Where did it go? And how
do we get it back?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
You love to hear from you, And I guess is
that our moral opportunity obligation as New Zealand is to
be more positive and get things done and find a
way to make things work better for future generations of kiwis.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, it is sixteen past one. Love to hear from
you on I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
It'd be good afternoon, eighteen past one. Are you bullish
about New Zealand? Do we need to get our ambition
back if we have lost it? Love to hear your
thoughts on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It was on
the back of John Key. Sir John Key was on
with Mike this morning and Mike asked him if he
was bullish, and Sir John Key certainly, he was a
lot of positivity about New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, some people are angry just at John Key for
having a say on this this Texas is John Key
is rich. He can shut up. What does he know?
It's interesting? John Key is out of touch. He doesn't
have to worry about grosson but rich coming from him? Really,
I mean just because someone's been successful. I mean you
could argue if someone's been successful that they probably they
might may know something, as opposed to you've been successful,

(11:33):
So shut up, you aren't allowed to have any say. Yeah,
it's a very very odd attitude that I don't quite understand.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
John Key didn't start off with fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Now we all know that. You know, he did work
for it. Hi, guys, I'm very bullished. But our confidence
was not for six by the previous labor government. They
sold us down the river, and it will take us
a long time to come back. We just have to
wait it out. Helen. Yeah, but if that's true, waiting
it out is not really the thing to do, isn't it.
Aren't we really saying that we should as a whole

(12:01):
and that we some people on either ends of the
bell cud that do a lot and some that do nothing,
but at the middle of the bell curve should be
ambitious and trying to push things forward and trying to
do what's right to make our country better for our
sales and future generation. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
It's like breaking up worth a partner. Some people will
go and hide out in a bedroom for months.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
At a time.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Some people will go down to the gym and say,
bugger this, I am going to make myself a better
person and to throd in the face of that person
that broke.

Speaker 8 (12:30):
Up with me.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, right, So one betters themselves and one just goes
into a deep dark rot.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And when someone's in a relationship and they see their
partner going to the gym, they think they're cheating on
them or getting a cheating way. But there's all different
attitudes on the spectrum. Sharon, welcome to the show. You
bullish it out New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
I think I am.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Because I run an accommodation lodger. I see a lot
of people from overseas, and I've been able to see
the self of course as well.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Think it's pretty good here. I mean, goodness me. There's
a lot worse places. And it depends on where you're
coming from. I suppose I think we've got a great country.
We just need to pick ourselves up or a bit
and get on with things a little bit more than
we have been.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Perhaps, How do you think you changed that attitude so
people that are grateful but realize that things need to
be done and get on with it, rather than what
I perceive is a bit of a winging mentality that's
come across the country, but of a defeatist way of
looking at things.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, I'm not sure. Perhaps you could have have a campaign.
I mean, people would probably call me a bit of
a pollio and because are like, you know, I'd like
to see the positive and things. But you know, goodness,
me can get outside the beaches do all sorts of
things that people I suppose they can do them overseas,
but you know, we have a great places, really do.

(13:57):
And I just think that perhaps we have to have
a positive campaign perhaps of how good it is here
and they're not to the point where it's going to be,
you know, ridiculous, but it really isn't that bad, surely.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I think if you call Sharon, I love a Pollyanna.
I was going to call her. I was about to say,
I think if you call Pollyanna.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, no, wrong, We've been a Pollyanna.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
We love a Sharon.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I love a daily dose of Sharon would be great, on't.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I love a Pollyanna and I love Sharon.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Just just quickly with Sharon. I think she's still there, Sharon,
now creep when if I'm wrong, But you are or
were quite recently a business owner as well.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Is that right?

Speaker 11 (14:33):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (14:33):
I am still a bus Yes, that's right.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And that's see your attitude is particularly good because we
all know business has had it incredibly tough over the
past five years, no doubt about it, and so for
you to still have that positivity that is huge. That
you can obviously see the light at the end of
the tunnel, but that's that pride about what we do
well here in New Zealand, and it is a beautiful country.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah, that's right. I mean I'm in the thought well, yes,
I mean we had no income for we were, you know,
and that sort of tends a little bit of a
down on things. But you know, I'm not going I'm
in the tourist industry, so that's picking up and then
we're very fortunate in that regard. But you know, you
can't be you can't come have tourists come to your

(15:16):
place and say how terrible the place is. I mean,
you just don't do that. So I guess it bumps
off on people.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
How did you stay positive in those tough times?

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well, I didn't actually run my business, of course, but
I actually worked in the health industry and it was
hell on earth, to be honest, it was awful. It
really was bad, and you know, luckily we came out
the other side but there wasn't I think for how colleagues.
My colleagues, I should say I probably have been a
lot worse. But it definitely wasn't an easy time. But

(15:49):
you know, you just have to get on and get
on with it and then see what happens out the
other side if you can. But yeah, it wasn't easy,
and it wasn't easy for a lot of people. It
still hasn't unfortunately, I do understand that.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I think if you call Sharon Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number of call? Are you
bullish on this country? And if we have lost our
confidence or ambition, how do we get it back?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Here's a text from a Rosie. Let foreign buyers in
over one point five mil just charge them in extra
buy attacks. We need their money.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, yep, good points. I love to your thoughts on
that one as well. It is twenty four past one.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
John Key as well as do we know where the
puck is going? When we've got a bloke in America
who's changing the rules literally on a daily basis.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
To describe as unpredictable would be an understatement.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
But he's put on these massive tariffs and what did
they get?

Speaker 12 (16:42):
An enormous vomit from the stock market.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
But here's the best predictor I thinks the market.

Speaker 12 (16:48):
And that is the markets themselves.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
They are not buying that he's leaving massive tariffs on.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
When you put them on, they had a child reaction.

Speaker 13 (16:56):
That's not been the situation for the last twelve days.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
So these people are pretty.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Smart and they've worked out that he's going to negotiate
some solution.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
a Veda News Talks.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
It be afternoon twenty six past one and we're talking. Well,
we've asked the question are you bullish on New Zealand?
After a response by Sir John Key this morning on
Mike's show, he said he was absolutely bullish about New Zealand,
But we've just got to do things a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, he said, we've got the tyranny of distance, were isolated,
but tech is making that better. We're small, but that
makes us nimble. We grow things very well.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
We do.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
But are we welcoming to foreign capital? And should we
do more to get the super rich and the super
smart to move to New Zealand. Yeah, Matt, your thoughts.

Speaker 13 (17:41):
On this, Yeah, I can let the foreigners. We need
money in a bit of wealth in this country to
get ahead. And what's what's some of your call is
ringing up in texting giving John Key crap?

Speaker 12 (17:53):
Who cares if he's rich?

Speaker 13 (17:55):
It's honestly, but there's there's something wrong with a lot
of Key. They're like jealous or something.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I find it really odd when someone says that person
can shut up because they're rich without adding any details
to it, like the idea that if you're you're a
rich you instantly don't know anything. I mean, I think
it could be an argument that if you're rich, you
probably do know something.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
A very strong argument for that.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
Oh, it's just ridiculous, the mentality of people. That's why
I think that a lot of Key we don't like
Luckson because he's done well for himself. It's ridiculous. Do
we want a loser in charge? Wh Do you want
success or or not success?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's interesting because Luxon gets I believe, more hassles for
being wealthy than John Key did, and I think that
may be a change in the way people think. I
think there's been sort of a change in the political
zeitgeist where you were there's something now considered evil about
being wealthy, whereas with John Key, we were like, oh,

(18:49):
he made it from a state home. He made at
the top, he's giving his he's not taking a salary.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, you know, it was a big part about it,
not taking a salary.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
It was hard, hard to really kick him when he
wasn't taking a salary, you know. But yeah, I mean,
and so what do you think about what John Key
was saying about New Zealand's advantages and problems?

Speaker 13 (19:09):
Oh? There, Yeah, we've got good things going on, but
we've got a lot of things offer and we're not
We're not happened. The problem is there's I don't think
this happened because there's a coalition you've got that doesn't
like investments. So good luck for fat.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Do you think we have lost our confidence Matt or
we're always kind of a little bait wingy when things
went going.

Speaker 13 (19:31):
Come to a wingy, bloody nation that has become.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
How do you think we changed that, Matt?

Speaker 13 (19:36):
Well, God give themselves an appercuts.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I think they can be them. I think shaming people
is a big is quite an effective way to change things.
So if someone's winging, if you start just calling them
a winger, yeah, then I think, I think because I
think winging is now being celebrated. If you can five
five things to winge about, you get celebrated for it.
But if it starts to be a sort of a

(20:02):
social cost and political costs for winging, then maybe that'll
that'll change people's attitude.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, shame the winder in your life. Matt, Thanks very much, mate,
appreciate you giving us a buzz. Oh eight hundred and
eighteen eighty is the number of call love to hear
your thoughts. Have we lost our ambition? Are you bullish
about New Zealand? Give us a buzz? It is bang on?
Help us one headlines with Raylene coming up.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hey, shut up, Matt says this Texter and your magical thinking.
You are always telling us, with the right attitude, things
will be better. Bollocks. If it's crap, it's crap, no
amount of philosophical thinking. Philosophical thinking that's their spelling, are
not mere reading it wrong? Okay, we'll change that. Would
you know what I'd say to that person? Well, the
happiness of your life depends upon the call of your thoughts.

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As Marcus Ralia.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Said, it's beautifully said.

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Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean and we've asked the question.
Now you bullish on New Zealand after John Key was
asked that very question by Mike Costkeen this morning and
gave an interesting answer. He was pretty bollish on New
Zealand loved it.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
He was.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So I was saying before the John Key gave up
his salary when he was Prime minister. This Texas said,
that's a lie sless Smith that gets repeated too often.
He has only ever gone on record and saying he
would donate a portion of a sally, which is basically
what we all do. There's no evidence or comment from
him ever saying that he would donate his salary. That
is interesting on a look into that.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Because I was adamant that he donated as salary as
prime minister.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, I says to Tyler, he definitely said donated sally
and you go, you see he says he different did.
And now I've just been trying to do some research
to find.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Out I've found a quote from him. So, okay, that
was in two thousand and nine. He was Prime minister
in two thousand and eight. I believe Key. This is
the exact quote. Key named in this year's rich list
is worth fifty million dollars said he was planning to
give away a chunk of the three hundred and sixty
one thousand dollars dollar PM salary if his party won
the upcoming election. So he made the promise in two

(23:13):
thousand and nine, so he must have been must have
been that year that he was elected.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, that's a chunk. Yeah, I said all of it,
So I was wrong, and I walk those comments back. Yeah,
likewise until someone can prove that he gave all of
it away. But either way, that still doesn't change my
general point that just because the idea that someone should
shut up because they're rich is ridiculous. Yeah, exactly, and
my opinion. Let's go to the phones. Phil, welcome to

(23:38):
the show.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Okay, thank you, Our age is both you.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, very good, Phil.

Speaker 15 (23:44):
Excellent, excellent. Now I've got about three points to make
here just trying to remember them hopefully, but I'm thinking, like,
where the bloody how are you attitude? If you remember
that ad for the Aussie girl? And I say also like, yeah,
go to the gym. If you break up and go
to the gym, take that attitude and the positiveness, you know,

(24:07):
rather than put yourself in a cave and disappear for
months with you.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So that was for people that messed up before. That
was Tyler's metaphor, wasn't it your analogy? Yeah, there's ways
people can face tough times such as a breakup or
an economic downturn exactly, and go to the gym, get
yourself hot out and move forward. Or you can lock
yourself in your bedroom and cry.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Two choices.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
But Phil you'll go to the gym. I appreciate that.

Speaker 15 (24:33):
Yeah, okay, good, Okay, that's the because I think, you know,
because I do dwell. Tyler sort of knows me and
knows that I battle mental health problems at the moment
with depress and stuff like that, and I've had problems
with alcoholism. No, I do dwell on the negative a bit,
but I know that it's no good that attitude. You know,

(24:54):
It's much better to try and be positive and go
forward like the lady was with the business that you
were talking to. But I'll get onto my points with
the like I think one the fellow that texts them
with the benefit and city was saving thirty dollars a
week to bug her off. And I thought, well, that
in itself says that this is not the worst country
you can be. And the fact that even on a
benefit he can still save some money to go somewhere,

(25:15):
that you even get a benefit rather than just being
thrown out in the street the thing for yourself like
a dog, which happens in other countries. So and I'm
not a rich man, but I think what John Key
Sears makes Sears said makes a lot of sense. And
I agree with him with the foreign investment part, especially
you know, let them and buy a house, and let

(25:36):
them and create a business and create joys and things
like that. And I think too that I think that
we have maybe because I'm fifty I'm fifty eight now
and growing up in that and sort of over the
years now I think we have lost a little bit

(25:56):
of that resilience that kind of can do.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
Key we attitude that was like wow, things mightn't be great,
or you're struggling or whatever, but let's just roll up
our sleeves and get stuck in and try and make
the best of it.

Speaker 12 (26:09):
I think.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
Over the generations that has slipped a bit, you know,
just my general feeling.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, well think if you call phil as I've been
banging on this week and last week I watched the
McLaren documentary, fantastic film made by Roger Donaldson, an incredible director,
and boy it was interesting just looking because parts were
really hard to get into New Zealand. So if you
wanted to make a race car was hard in New Zealand.
So a bunch of kiwis found out just worked out
how to do it with the parts they got, and

(26:37):
as a result they became incredibly talented and innovative in
making race cars. So when they went to the UK
and they had access to the parts and that they
could in the US, you know, everyone knows the story
of Bruce McLaren, and anyone that watched the f one
across the weekend or actually yesterday morning, we'll see how
well McLaren is doing to this day. But it was
quite eye opening seeing how they saw things that things

(27:00):
were hard and complicated, so awesome. Let's let's see what
we can do.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
They embrace those challenges.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Let's see what kind of racecar we can put together
with the stuff we've got.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, and a lot of that is right. They can
do Kiwi attitude and a lot of people would argue
that the government just needs to get out of the way.
That is that is the you know, as long as
people can try and better themselves in this country and
have as little red tape as possible.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
What do you think of this text from Daniel? Here
it says, if you're a super sulker, go sulk with
your sulkin group. We don't need that here until you
make it unconscious, conscious effort. We detect your life and
you will call it fate. Check your houses in order
before you criticize the world. This is not the end.
It is the even the beginning. It's not even the
beginning of the end. But perhaps it is the end

(27:45):
of the beginning. Daniel, I love a series of quotes
and cliches, and I think there's a lot very well,
how did it start off?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
If you want to be with your your sulkies, I
did like that first part.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, another thousand texts have come through since I've read that,
so it's going to be you want to go with
your sulky lot. Yeah, that was something I agree with. Hioys,
I'm Australian. I've lived in here in this great country
for nearly twenty years. My experience is that kiwis are
and understated, unassuming bunch, which is both endearing but can
also be in Achilles Hill as it holds us back.
Maybe we could learn some from lessons from Australians who

(28:16):
tend to be more positive and boisterous about the country.
It's not arrogance but positivity. We too need, in our
unassuming way shout from the rooftops. We need to, in
our unassuming way to shout from the rooftops about New
Zealand and New Zealanders who are achieving great things. Maybe
some sort of public campaign to promote the change that
mindset would help. New Zealand is a fantastic place, with
fantastic place, with so many opportunities. We just need to

(28:38):
get our mana back to once again make it the
envy of the world. Chairs Ossie John.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, you go very good, Yeah, very well.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Put look look at me like I'm a successful broadcast
and I can't even read, so that should be I
should be an inspiration to everyone.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
And we don't need an Australian, you know, telling us
to be more positive, even though I really like your style.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
As a John Sir Bob Jones grew up in a
state house, as did John Key, chairs Chris, as did
John Banks. So there you go. I mean start with
fifty million. He had to earn out the idea that
you would not listen to someone who's had a story
of success as crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh, e one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number
to call? Are you bullish on this country? And if
you are, why can you hear from you? It is
nineteen to two.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Matt Heath, Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Sa'd be There's sixteen to two and we've asked the
question are you bullish on New Zealand's And a lot
of people turns out they are bullish.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, And a lot of people are pointing out though
that there has been sort of a malaise that's come
across a country over the last few years. And I
was pulling to the McLaren film that I watched the
other day from the twenty seventeen movie about Bruce McLaren
made by Roger Donson, and a lot of people asking
where I watched it. I watched it at in zidfilm

(29:59):
dot co dot in zi nice can watch it there.
It's also on Amazon Prime. But it's that tricky thing
they're doing with the end sertification of the world. I
hate that.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Well, Prime Prime is a great thing, but now half
of their catalog you've got to rent it all by it.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, well it's on, but that's all right. You can
read films, it's fine, you know. So something's a part
of the streaming and some things you read.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I've just yeah, this is
a problem. It's too easy to just go into this
winging opportunity.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Listen to your chiler. There's an opportunity for you to
watch this movie in your house. Yeah. And and you're going, oh,
it's too hard. It's going to cost me four dollars
ninety nine. Who does that?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Fort dollars ninety nine. Go to oh bays I seeking
of it. He's successful. One undred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call Bob, how are you?

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, Hi guys. Yeah, I'm almost eighty two year old
Kiwi and a successful business man. I left New Zille
in nineteen sixty four and went to Australia and ended
up getting involved in the oil and guests industry and

(31:10):
set up. I developed, invented and developed six different tools
for the industry and great. I think New Zealand right
now is an incredible place for opportunity and I think
if the New Zealand public sticks with Christopher Luxeen, he

(31:34):
will lead this country into prosperity in the very near future.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Hanneya, do you think that is, Bob?

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm sorry, Hanneya.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Do you think your prosperity is half far around the corner?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Well? I think he needs at least one more turns
and he will get things on track. And he's doing
that already, laying the foundation for that. I think he's remarkable.
He's got a lot behind him that proves that he's
capable of doing the job.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
What do you think he's doing well, Bob, him and
his team. To be fair, you know he's got a
team behind him which needs to be acknowledged a little bit.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah, of course, Yeah, but you can't run an operation.
It's a business. Being in control of the government, the administration,
you're running a business. Yeah, it's not a plaything on
the side, it's a business.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, Bob, thank you very much for your thoughts. Really
appreciate it. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. I think it's fair to say that
Christoph Luxen does get a fair wack of criticism, and
I think some of that would be considered fair because,
I mean, lock he's got a lot to.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Do to turn this country around, in the economy around.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Some would argue that they are starting to make some moves,
but it's not fast enough.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's weird. The criticism that we have for him now
is a lot of it is style. It's how he
answers questions, how he presents how and you know, people
talk about is he winning people over with how he's
directing his message. I find that the strain and the
strangest analysis of politics. You know, if you watch a
debate and afterwards they debate how they came across, they
don't debate the substance of what they're written down, And

(33:18):
that's just the way things are these days. I guess,
and that's part of the game of politics. But I
think so much of the criticism of Chris Luxen is
on style as opposed to substance. Guys, you're missing the
obvious point here, says this text to money is not
the infinite measure of success. Yes, it's a marker, but
there are far greater things to measure success than how
much money I've made in my lifetime. Perhaps this is

(33:39):
why we don't listen or discount those people. Yeah, I
mean that is one hundred percent true. I think there
are so many markers of someone being a good person.
But my argument was the idea that you would rule
someone out as a bunch of text messages have someone's
opinion just because they're rich. That seems like a crazy
idea to me. But absolutely, there are so many more markers.

(34:01):
There's plenty of evil people that are rich, but there's
some great people that are rich. There's also a lot
of evil poor people.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So where you sit financially, I don't think has anything
to do with whether you should be listened to or not.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Helga, how are you?

Speaker 16 (34:16):
Oh Hello, I'm a city secker for three lamps points
and I went work in nineteen sixty four when I
was sixteen, And my opinion now watching the history of
business and jobs in New Zealand, everyone had a job
in the sixties and seventies, and I think the business

(34:37):
has made a big mistake of putting the jobs overseas
because a lot of New Zealand has lost their jobs.
And that made a big difference. On the shoe factories.
They're clothing factories. They made just about everything here except
humber cars came in and that was the factories.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
So you support you would support Helger, you would support
Trump style tariffs to bring back manufacturing to New Zealand.

Speaker 16 (35:03):
No, I just think they were very foolish to do that.
Because I was reading China's made a big ballistic missile.
It's on the news today. It's huge no Korea, so
all these people are thinking about war, whereas I think
giving New Zealanders jobs, we don't want all these people
on the unemployment. I mean I was unemployed the odd tom,

(35:25):
but I've always got a job. I've got one brother
who's a millionaire in their sets. I've got a son
and a grand side geral businessman.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, well, thank you for your Elga Helga Ala Alger's
not a.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Name, Helger. But look, I mean to your point about
what Trump is trying to do in America, I think
that's exactly what Elga wanted to do in New Zealand. Look,
and that's you know, part of the point is that
is what Trump is trying to do is bring manufacturing
jobs back to America, rightly or wrongly, whether that's a.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Strategy annoying if you're in New Zealand if he does that,
especially if you're in the film industry. Yeah, if he
says that every movie has to be made in America
instead of overseas, that's a problem for them. But what
Alga's saying is, you know, that's how you know New
Zealand to be like that. We did. We used to
be a very protectionist under Muldoon until eighty four when

(36:14):
that longer government came in and changed that.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah. Right, it is nine to two. We'll take a
few more calls very shortly, oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. Keen to hear your views on this.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Mad Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
news TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
News talks there be and we're talking about well, we'll
ask the question, are you bullish on New Zealand get
a berry?

Speaker 11 (36:40):
Yeah, guys, tell you very good.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Are you positive about the future of New Zealand.

Speaker 11 (36:46):
I've always been positive at our wonderful country, you know,
I've been fortunate that the travel of the world being
at all sorts of places, and frankly speaking, there's a
lot of people in this country that if only they
could go to some of these countries and just see
how the other half live, I think it'd really wake
them up. But I've got a good idea. Let's put
all the Polley's on the left, Greeny Green of politicians,

(37:11):
most of the Labor Party teaparty Mary, get them on
those seven five seven Air Force chits, fly them off
to somewhere like Ol Salvador or Iran or something like that,
and hopefully they break down and they never come back
because there's a lot of negativity there. They bring nothing
positive to New Zealand. They're always kicking. And the other
thing is the TV news. Some of those people on

(37:33):
TV news, I mean, I don't watch it now, just
everything's you know, free starts and there's always the next moment.
It's but this is wrong, but that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, I agree, it's always a but yeah, I agree, Barry.
And you've got to say, look, we I work in
the media, obviously, but I came to the conclusion that
just because media tells me to worry about something, I've
got to worry about it. I mean, gone to those days,
because then you fall into that same spiral of negativity,
that there's always something wrong with with the story. As

(38:06):
you say, whereas you know we to be I think
we used to be a country. Maybe I am being
too much of a Pollyanny here, but we used to
be more ambitious, and we used to be more confident,
and we used to back ourselves a lot more.

Speaker 8 (38:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (38:18):
Well, look, look, this country breeds wonderful kids. There's so
many good, you know, young people that grow up into
this world. I've got a couple of three myself, and
you know, you see, you know the schooling, you know,
buy and buy is excellent. You know, you can go
to public schools and get a great education. You know,
the house this system is pretty damn good. Let's face it,

(38:40):
there will never be enough money, but you know, we're
a great country and it's you know, we just have
to get back on track as it were, and and
just you know, move forward back to the times when
when we were you know, one of the world leaders,
which you know, we really haven't lost that unfortunately, you know,

(39:01):
some of the politicians have put us in a spiral
and too much debt in the country. But we've just
got to get on it now.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, and I like that. I like that. I like
that Barry get on with it. Yeah. Yeah, Hey, guys,
the reason for our social losage is quite simple. A
certain political group has been trying to convince us that
we are socially, financially and sexually oppressed. Maybe ignoring or
silencing this group would help us snap out of it. Dave,
I'm not sure if I support silencing anyone more of

(39:29):
a free speech advocate, but maybe maybe we just need
to be more positive. It sounds so trite, but do
things not because they're easy, but because they're hard. As
JFK would say, you.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Know, I still like your point. Shame the winges. You know,
if you've got a winder in your life, just give
them a bit of shaming at the dinner table. Shut
them up.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Shame winges wherever you see them. Don't silence them, just
shame them.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
It was a great discussion. Thank you very much. Right
coming up, we want to have a chat about mean coins.
If you're into mean coins, if you investment mean coins,
if you've lost a bit of money and mean coins,
we want to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
To call, talking with you all afternoon against Matt Heathen,
Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
They'd be very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Welcome back into the show.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Just before we move on, Yeah, before we move on,
Tyler to a new topic which I'm excited about, the
meme coin topic, and I'm chomping at the book to
get into that. I've been accused of toxic positivity in
an amusing text which I thought I responded the first
someone called my next book toxic positivity.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
It's a great book tip.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Another texta says shut up heath you, Pollyanna. Another one
says Matt, I'm triggered by your relentless, naive positivity. And
so I thought, under those accusations, I thought what I'd
do was I'll double down I'll double down. I'll double
down on my positivity. And I was asked to write
something for the on the Up section in the Herald,

(40:59):
a campaign in the Herald to look at positive stories
in New Zealand. They asked me to write a little
bit on how I stay positive. Okay, so I'm going
to punish you guys by reading it out. All right,
you can't steals, can't stop me. You can't stop me
being a Pollyanna. You can't stop my native positivity. I'm
unstoppable here it is. I am a fan of the

(41:21):
philosopher William b Irvine's approach. Everyone experiences obstacles professionally and personally.
We feel set upon by admin, the economy, bad luck,
and sometimes other humans. Irvine flips this brand. He rebrands
obstacles as challenges. If you can face a setback with strength, virtue,
calmness and competence, you pass the test, get stronger and
earn the right to feel pride in yourself. If you
freak out, give up, or blame others, you fail the challenges.

(41:43):
It's a simple perspective trick. You are not set upon
by events and obstacles in your path. You have been
gifted opportunity to show yourself what you are made of.
It sounds simple, but it keeps me positive. With this mindset,
you almost look forward to the challenges in life.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Love.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
That's How's that for toxic positivity?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
It take that text us, Yeah, I mean that is
our show in a nutshell, though, wasn't it. There's always
a big mountain to climb every day, and we get
through it and we face it with gusta certainly do
all right, all right, on to this topic, and this
is going to be an interesting conversation. Meme coins. Now,
you may or may not have heard of meme coins,
but it's taken the crypto world by storm. There are

(42:22):
thousands and thousands of them. But the big ones that
may come to mind Doge the ogbu inu.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Which is the type of dog that was in the
original Doge meme in twenty thirteen, isn't it yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Correct? Yeah, So that was just a fly on from Doge.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
And doges gets some pretty confusion because it was from
a meme about a Japanese dog, meme that then became
a coin and then became the Department of Governor Efficiency.
So it's swirling around in meme coin exception complexity, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah. Hook Tour was another recent one. You may have
seen that particular. I can't remember her name, Haley Welsh
I think is her name, but she became very famous
from one tiny week clip. We don't need to go
in to what that clip is, but you can look
it up Hook to a Girl if you're interested. But
that was another mean coin into it. It didn't me too.
That didn't work out for her. She got a lot
of stick because that was a meme coin that went

(43:18):
up very rapidly and declined very rapidly. They called it
the rug pull.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, I get that, But this is what I really
want to talk about, And people that have delved into
meme coinage can help me out here in eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, because I think it's unfair that
she got slammed for that, Because isn't the whole thing
of a meme coin. It's sort of a who can
get in first and who can get out first? And
if you get out first, then then you make the money.

Speaker 9 (43:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I mean, they're all tied to jokes and trends and
celebrity endorsements, and they will almost certainly blow up, you know,
and the people that get angry I could be wrong here,
but the people that get angry about it's just because
they didn't get out quick enough and rip the other
people off. Yeah. Yeah, it's a form of form of gambling. Yeah,

(44:06):
but they are ridiculous. I mean, and people go, well,
who are these idiots that are investing in the tour coin?

Speaker 8 (44:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Who are these people that investing in the Trump coin
or the Millennia coin or the or you know, dog
is actually still valued at about thirty nine billion I believe,
Yeah that, you know, which was the original meme coin.
But isn't that the whole thing, the humorous, humorous origins,
the community driven. They're obviously high volatilility, and they have
no practical use. They're not like bitcoin. They have no

(44:35):
functionality these coins. So that's what a meme coin is.
It's a pump full of hype and can you make
the money now, it's like a collectible. Yeah, you know,
it's not far off in NFT.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
You want to get it on the ground floor and
you hope that it goes viral. Then other people start
getting into it. The value of that meme coin goes up,
and then you've got to get out before it hits
The peak is effectively the strategy, right.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, and there isn't that. They think a lot of
the reason why this is so popular with young people
is because they feel like they have been locked out
of the traditional ways to get rich. They feel locked
out of the property market. They may be running a
lot of debt, and they are living their lives online

(45:21):
and they see these meme coins. They see the humor
of it, but they also have seen people that have
made millions and millions of dollars. And you read about
the person that's made millions and millions of dollars, you
get fomo and you want to get involved in this
latest stupid coin before everyone jumps out of it and
you don't, you know, And of course, like all these things,
most people lose. Yeah, but you know people that hate

(45:43):
the meme coin. For me, it's kind of like when
you bet on a horse and your horse doesn't come true.
You're like, well, was I ripped off? Or did I
just picked the wrong horse?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
It was worth a gamble and it didn't work out
for me. But yeah, the story it is in the Herald,
but it quotes Uva Mendoza and she's twenty five. She
earns six figures in the state. She's in the Bay Area,
and she says, I quote, nobody can afford to buy
a house, she said, of her generation, so we feel
like we need to do something a bit more risky.
She is among the young investors seeking out that incredible

(46:11):
wealth sometimes by investing in these a meme coins. It
is effectively a get rich quick scheme, but one that
there are a handful of people that get incredibly incredibly wealthy,
and far more that probably missmiss out if they invest.
But keen to hear from you on on oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty have you given a crack on

(46:32):
a meme coin? Putting some money into a mean coin?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
And isn't it interesting? So you might be a bitcoin
investor and you might be thinking, oh my god, meme
coin is crazy in the same way that people that
are property investors or share market investors think that just
in a solid crypto coin, investing of that is as crazy.
So I love your thoughts on meme coins. Eight hundred

(46:54):
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
It is thirteen past two, back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Wow your home of afternoon talk. Mad Heathen Tyler Adams
afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Said, afternoon, sixteen past two. We're talking about meme coins.
These are effectively cryptocurrencies. They don't have any inherent value
apart from being funny.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
But if you get in early on the ground floor
and the particular meme coin that you've put money into
goes viral and other people buy it, then you can
make an awful lot of money.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yes so, And look, I'd love to hear from someone
that that points out this is wrong. But isn't there
volunteer volatility and the lack of functionality the whole point
of the meme coin and why the money can be
made because it is all hype and it all is
all pumped up by whatever joke is involved and whatever.
You know, if you could call the hawk toy girl
a celebrity, whatever cultural capital someone has at a certain

(47:54):
certain time.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
The higher the risk, the higher reward.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Right, Yeah, so you don't mind me saying you were
telling me over a coffee before that you bought a
meme coin at one point, yes, yeah, money into it.
And why did you put money into it?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Because I thought it was going to make me money? Fast, right, yeah, fast.
So I had it in bitcoin, and I'm not sure,
you know, I've said that before that I had a
little bit of money in bitcoin, sold the bitcoin, put
it into this mean coin called Pepe because I'd read
that it had just come to the market, so to speak,
and it might go up exponentially, and it did. But

(48:27):
I didn't get out early enough, so I off money.
But the point is I didn't put any more around
than I could afford to lose.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, so when you got out, and look, I want
to differentiate this between putting money in a savings account, well,
I don't know, buying gold or investing in property, all
these different things slower burns, especially in property these days.
But you were in there to make a quick money,
a quick amount of money. So someone was going to

(48:55):
lose money. You just didn't want it to be you.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, it was a mess of Campbell and I knew that.
That's why I think it was. So it's roughly about
two hundred bucks because a.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Mean coin, and I'm not saying this for crypto in general,
is a it's close the gambling than it is to
invest in.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Definitely, it was like me putting money on you know,
a pony to win the Melbourne Cup. It's it's coming
in at one hundred to one. It's not likely to work,
but there's a possibility.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
All right, Kim, you've bought mean coins?

Speaker 17 (49:26):
Yeah I have. Hey, it's risk and rewards and basically
all over to say, when I've bought the trump fit coin,
which is you know, ma, it was I'm not I'm
not particularly worried about that. And the second mind is
the trump Fit.

Speaker 9 (49:41):
Point buck.

Speaker 8 (49:44):
That?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
What was that one?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Say that one again?

Speaker 17 (49:46):
It's the trump It's the trump Fit point bucks.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Oh that's the trump mean coin is it?

Speaker 17 (49:53):
It's not a court buck and one hundred foot point
notes and it's gold and it is absolutely gorgeous and I'm.

Speaker 18 (50:02):
Never selling them.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
That sounds like, So you you have bought it as
a collectible yea, I have.

Speaker 17 (50:10):
There's only a finite amount, and yeah they are they.

Speaker 12 (50:14):
Are done, mate.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
And what's the value at now?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Oh we just lost your kim Met just asked what's
the value at now?

Speaker 17 (50:26):
I haven't actually lost his off this week. It's still Yeah,
I'm gonna have to have to go on mine. But
as I say, I'll quite have you sell the bitcoin coin.
But I won't sell the bucks. I'll take those for sure.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Oh well, I think if you call him, I mean,
that does sound like a clickable. So that was a
physical note? Was it that Kim got sent?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Is that I think she got a natural buck, which
is which is a Trump buck, which is which is
different from the Trump Mean coin. Yeah, or the Millennia
Mean coin.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
And I will say I was reading the story in
the Herald about the Trump Mean coin and a lot
of these meme coins do absolutely nothing and they never
claim to be. But for that particular coin at the moment,
I think if you buy enough of them, then you're
going to be invited to a private garlet dinner with
the president. So you get something out of that if
you if you want to risk quite a substantial amount

(51:19):
of money buying that coin, then you might get to
have dinner with the president.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Well, okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call if you've purchased meme coins before. Love to
hear from you if you think it is a good strategy,
if it's worked out for you, or if you've lost a.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Bit of money. Yeah, yeah, and just you only what
you think about meme coins and I'd like to hear
from some crypto people that are judgmental of meme coins
that are just straight lined the doubt, straight down the
line bitcoin and the solid solid crypto.

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Speaker 3 (52:48):
ZB twenty four past two. We're talking about meme coins.
They have taken the crypto world by storm. There's thousands
of them, and it turns out there are many young
people in the US and here in New Zealand that
are looking to meme coins to make money because the
traditional route of the housing market has let them down. Yeah,
they can't get into it.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, but is it just what this Texas says, don't
chase rainbows are full of rainbows are full and his
money are easily parted. There was phone cards and where
are they now? They're worthless? Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
That is a fair point. I mean a lot of
people have called it a bubble, but I think to
your point, if you know it's a gamble and it's
highly likely you'll lose the money that you put into it,
is there anything wrong with it?

Speaker 8 (53:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I mean if you're buying sad Hamster coins and you
lose the money, or pizza coins, surely you know what
you're getting into, or the Pooh coin.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Or like me, Peppy I didn't even know what Peppee was.
It just It just sounded like a thre potential.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
If you're dropping big money on the poo coin and
you lose money, I mean, I'm not sure how much
symphony symphony sympathy I have for you.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Yeah, you can't go to your financial what happened here?
It was a done deal. I thought there was a guarantee.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I mean, it's on the blockchain. Here you go, Pawin,
Welcome to the show. Are your thoughts on mean coins?

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Hello?

Speaker 8 (54:09):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (54:09):
Yes, actually I was trading in meme coin, but the
trump mime coin gave me some money, but I lost
all money on ethereum when like the price dropped from
twenty eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Right right, and ethereum is is considered one of the
more solid you know, one of the more solid points.

Speaker 19 (54:29):
Yeah, but I think all of the crypto concepts like
mime coin, you know, because what happens, like some guys
who got a lot of followers and they got like
groups in telegram and all sorts of stuff over there,
like the message or this is gonna drop, so a
lot of people they just sell the coin and all,

(54:52):
so the price going down. Some people like they they
send the message in their groups or price going up
so people start buying, so how it's like going up
and down. So a lot of people like they yeah,
controlling the price on the co and all good stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
So you you made a lot on Trump you lost
on a lot on Ethereum. Where are you sitting? Are
you even or you are you down? Overall?

Speaker 19 (55:21):
I like, I'm out from the game because it liquidated
of everything because on Etherium, like I was putting more
money to save that. Yeah, but Etherium was on twenty
one hundred. I was liquidated on the Etherium yeah, thirteen

(55:42):
and fifteen hundred, I think.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Yeah, when did that crash? Was that at the start
of the year?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Was it one?

Speaker 13 (55:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah, yeah yeah right yeah, so it's currently sitting at
three thy and thirteen.

Speaker 19 (55:58):
Yeah yeah, I like all of the coins or even Etherium,
like they have people control, some of the people controlling them,
you know.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Just what they the Trump coin and I take it
you knew it was a gamble per want you Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (56:14):
I think so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
But it sounds like you've got to be in the
right Internet groups right to find out or hear about
these things, because if you're not first, you're highly likely
to lose money.

Speaker 19 (56:27):
Yes, yes, yeah, like e when trump coin? Was it
a ten or twelve that time I entered, and I
around fifty or fifty two? It was, Yeah, it went
to ninety or night.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I think was that just before the election, was it?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I think?

Speaker 9 (56:48):
So?

Speaker 8 (56:48):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (56:49):
Around the elections?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
I mean, is that any different too?

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Because you could bet on the election result, right, whether
it was going to be Trump or Karmela. And as
it got closer, it became pretty evident that that Trump was,
you know, good odds to take the presidency. That's effectively
what it was, right that if you put money into
this mean coin, it was effectively gambling on Trump winning
the presidency.

Speaker 19 (57:13):
No, I think Trump worn. I think, Oh, I actually
I don't remember now because I'm not doing anything now
about I think I forgot that.

Speaker 12 (57:24):
Yeah, I don't know, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Yeah, right, well, very good to check with you, and
and good to hear that. So you're pretty much even
Stevens or a little bit up. He's out, Oh you'd but.

Speaker 19 (57:36):
Yeah, liquidated.

Speaker 12 (57:37):
So I'm out now.

Speaker 19 (57:38):
So I'm just doing my job. Yeah, so I'm not
on not trading anymore.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Last question for you, have you got a partner or
a wife?

Speaker 20 (57:46):
Paun?

Speaker 19 (57:47):
Yeah, yeah, I got.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
How did she feel about this invecement strategy?

Speaker 19 (57:52):
Nolet case, yes, ses, she was all right, like we
tried something and but I found like one thing from trading,
like if you want to do trading like sport trading
instead of decent one, you know, like a sports trading
like it, you might take sometimes like a one year

(58:13):
or two years to get the price back, but in
the liquidation it will be like maybe in the one
month like it will You're all many gone.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, very interesting, great to chat with you for one.
Thank you very much for giving us a call.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Should we start a z b coin? So we've basically
got a funny, engage engaging meme. Yeah, I know something
around you probably you're pretty funny and engaging tyler. We'll
call it coin.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
We could have your face on it, okay, yeah, matt coin, yeah,
heath coin, Heathorium.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
We'll choose a blockchain, I think well, we'll put it
on the Ethereum blockchain. This is coming together very fast.
We'll create a token, yep, this token mint, you can
do that. We'll set the parameters, we'll make it how
much the number of decimals just well, well, and then
promote it on social media.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
We'll have some utility and then if you buy enough
of them, you get to lunch with met Heath.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, and then we'll pump and dump it on the
mattin Tyler afternoons and then any suckers that by that
coin deserve to lose everything they've got.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Exactly you knew what you were doing. Oh, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It
has bang on to thirty.

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Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're talking about
mean coins. These are part of the cryptocurrency space, but
they're not your Bitcoin or ethereum type token.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah. This after a really interesting article on the Herald
about a Hooters coin. This Smisson's making six figures from
starting the Hood's coin. But it's about young people who
they're calling them financial nihilists. They don't believe in the
financial system anymore because they don't think that they can
get on the property ladder, and they don't think that

(01:01:09):
they're going to have a job for life, and they
just don't think that the current system is set up
to make them succeed in their way that their parents
did or their grandparents did, so they're doing crazy things.
And a mean coin doesn't really have any functionality. It's
just a it's all hype. Really, it's a you know
a lot of like bitcoin has a functionality, right, and

(01:01:33):
XRP has a functionality, but mean coins do not have
a functionality. They are just hype, yeah and pump and
don't really.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Yeah they are. I mean, it's a massive gamble, high risk,
high reward. But a lot of these young people quoted
in the story who are all about the mean coins
to try and make some quick cash because they can't
get into the housing market. They go on to talk
about the game Stop situation, which is very similar as
in putting money into a stock like game Stop, which

(01:02:03):
was effectively this is where you go to buy games
for your Xbox or your PlayStation. By all counts, that
was a business that was on the down and out,
and all of a sudden, one person says buy some
game Stop shares. Boom, the value skyrocketed, and it became
a bit of a meme, like a you know, a
whole group of young Internet users just saying yep, I'm

(01:02:23):
getting on this train because it's a fast way to
make catch.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Matthew says these meme coins have no tangible value in
nothing of any substance backing them. They are a pyramid
scheme for the gullible and desperate. I nearly put money
into Solana, not a mean coin, but probably similar in substance.
Before I could buy I watched its value dive over
a couple of months. So grateful I didn't put But
who knows. It's a crazy world. It could go absolutely
ballistic from my point of view, and this is at

(01:02:47):
the far end of the scale. If you invest a
lot of money in poo coin, which exists, and you
lose your money, then is there any sympathy there because
you're just involved. You're just trying to get in and
get your money when you can. Ah Morris, welcome to
the show. It's been a while.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
Ah. That word busy time of the year for us.
But anyway, I think it's all hub of we're all
waste the time. If you want tom a house, we'll
give someone the b of advice. A young noodle lunatic,
don't have a coffee every morning that costs you seven bucks?
Then they have one at morning tea, then they have
one at lunch in there one going home twenty eight bucks.

(01:03:29):
Don't bund sushi every second day because you think it's
healthy at fourteen dollars. It actually save your money. Go
shop and get some groceries, learn out cop and take
lunch to work with you in drink t bags or
instant coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And do you think week? Do you think? How quickly
do you reckon? They'll get you on your prop marketing
mark the property market. No, no, no coffee, is no
no sushi.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
You'll save six hundred bucks a week if you actually
and you live properly and you don't spend your money
on nonsense. And if you save six hundred bucks a week,
then I'll make your thirty grand a year. So over
five years or one hundred and fifty grand. Well, I
have a daughter on a six figure salary, reading poverty,
I can't live. He was living with her mate when
you were making seven hundred bucks for her shoe of

(01:04:15):
the rent, literally just like that, never had a dollar
a week to week, look from week to week, and
she was claiming poverty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
MM.

Speaker 8 (01:04:22):
Just ridiculous. And they want it all now, they don't
want to work for it in the world, ows and something,
and then they take these hit the credit borrow money
and put it on these weird things.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Would you admit, though, Morris, that it's harder to get
on the property ladder now than it was when you did.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
Have a son who's tight, miserable and everything. He got
on the property letter of all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
He's thirty two, Is he happy?

Speaker 15 (01:04:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
Yes, years he's got married now with a couple of
kids and over the moon happy years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
So you think you could be Do you think, Maris,
you can be tight and happy?

Speaker 20 (01:04:54):
What I call them tight?

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
And this is this is it. You guys are little
pretentious yuppy. So you like your coffees in the morning
and all that bench and stuff. But do you need
a seven dollar coffee on the way to work? Then
I'll go down for lunch, sniff the coffee every day
of the week, three times day. We'll sin washoe twenty
one dollars a day, which is one hundred bucks a week.
Do you need that? What's wrong with Inston coffee?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Well, Mett's doing pretty well actually, because I bo't buy
most of the coffees. Morris say, he's got me, He's
got me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
There I'm saving coffee, and I'm saving.

Speaker 8 (01:05:26):
Then you go out just for a little laps.

Speaker 19 (01:05:27):
I'm just getting can I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Just I'm just going to hold you up there for
a second, Morris, seven dollars fifty coffee. I think you
might be exaggerating the crust of coffee. I don't know,
because my coffee. How much are you paying for my coffees?

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
For your one? Yeah, your one's five twenty. My one
is four dollars seventy. I just go long black. You
know they's fancy for me. Okay, they're a little splash
of cream. You're getting yours there?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Really? Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:05:48):
So where are you guys getting them from? Where I go?
Seven bucks?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
What we're like, Adam, we're about to you you're.

Speaker 8 (01:05:56):
Mokey?

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, well I'll go back to the tea bags, Morris.
I mean, you're paying seven bucks for a coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
You're getting ripped off because I have a fancy coffee
that I get tiling to buy me every day, and
there's only five to twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
They saw you coming, Morris.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
But you know when you look at it, but all
those little bits ed up and what happens that it's
just the coffee. It's just soush. It's just that, and
then I don't need it, hope any more. The eat
takeaways and shit like that, or or I go here
or they so the next thing, you know, like I
proved to my daughter, I ate where you really well
for one week on one hundred and fifty seven bucks
for a week when I did the shopping started a

(01:06:30):
new place and they've done a hundred and fifty seven
bucks a week, And she couldn't believe it. And I had,
you know, like ham sandwiches with lendus and tomatoes for lunch.
You had stuff like that, and you can do that
one hundred and fifty seven bucks a week for one person,
ate broccoli and coulie flower, you know, you get to
beat or vegetables and you cook it home. What onlass?

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
What about your entertainment? Marris?

Speaker 19 (01:06:50):
Were you?

Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
Were you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
What do you say? One glass of wine a week?

Speaker 8 (01:06:53):
No? No, well you don't go out for that, just
one glass that comes sex?

Speaker 21 (01:06:57):
You know how it is?

Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
Yes, but what you do and if you want entertainment, seriously,
go and join a sports god and player sport so
you can do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
But I think your figures are a little bit out
forget about the coffee. But you see it's by not
buying a coffee you saved six hundred bucks a week.
I mean six hundred bucks a week. You've got to
cut out a lot of spending to save that.

Speaker 8 (01:07:16):
No, No, what she did when she cut all the
crap out that she wasted the money on, she saved
six hundred bucks a week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
So what was she buying?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I mean coffee is aside, that's a lot of expenditure.

Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
Was she week for four coffees a week? To goo
for pizzas two nights a week? You'd eat out most
every other night. When you went through the whole how
she lived? She said, you know, she was on over
one hundred a year and she's week to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Week And what was her happiness levels? Like between the
rampant spending and then when she tightened about Morris.

Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
When she had money in the bank, could she get
to see some positivity?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah? I think this. I think there's some truth in
that Morris. I think that there's some truth. And when
you're when you're just burning money, you may feel like
you're having a good time, but there's that sinking feeling
of just money flying away from your directions. And I'm
a but like this, I mean, I won't buy the coffee.
That's up to you. Tyler. You're lucky to have a
job working with me. So you're still in a trial period.
Has it been ninety days yet?

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Yeah, been far past ninety days down. I think I'm
only a three yearly try.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I missed that. But as I said the other day,
I spray money around like a fire hose, and it
does It doesn't make me feel good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I had one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
of cors. I guarantee Morris has made a crazy gamble
at some stage in this life. Morris is still there,
Morris at some stage, I mean, forget about the mean
come yet. I think a lot of people can agree
it's it's it's not a good strategy for getting wealthy
in the long term. But you must have been a
bit of a gambler in your youth.

Speaker 8 (01:08:42):
No never, or it just worked and saved and worked
and put it into bricks and mortar. Because I was told,
you know, the only milliar gambler in the head. I said,
a horse that we raced an alancy. She paid ninety
two dollars. Then we took the grain each way and
we put these o our equipments and it bolted in
an alsie. Her name was Morris Less. She was a
person over here. And the funny thing about that, my
daughter wants to put the money on at the pub

(01:09:03):
and there is TV because that's how it was, and
she said, can I borrow twenty off you? I said,
what's for the doors? Because you're doing it, I'm going
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
That's gambling, Morris, thank you very I'm sorry. I asked.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
I've got a pook coin for you, Morris, if you
want to put some a you're good on that. Guys.
My local coffee shop charges seven dollars for a rigidar
flat rite. Younger people at work will get uber eats
from three hundred meters down the road instead of going
and getting it down. True boy, I found out and
uber eats from one of my cats that was about
I think forty five meters from home.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Well, you can't talk, you spray the catch around like
father lu likes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yeah, terrible example.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call mean coins and in the crypto space, if
you're involved in the NFTs as well, love to hear
from you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Tell you this, Texas is trump coin went ten x
on on inauguration. And that's the thing with a mean coin,
like the Trump coin, for example, it's not about the
substance or the functionality at about it. It's about the
hype around it. And so even though Trump's inauguration had
nothing to do with the value of the coin really,
but the perception of his name and therefore the hype
went up at the on inauguration day, so the Trump

(01:10:13):
coin went up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Yep, exactly. It is seventeen to three. Beg very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Have a chat with the lads on mad Heath and
Tyler Adams afternoons News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
News Talk zed B. James, Good afternoon, Yeah, good, here's
go very good. So you're involved in NFTs.

Speaker 20 (01:10:33):
Is that right?

Speaker 15 (01:10:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:10:35):
It's the funny thing about NFTs is people look at
things like the mean coins or the thing that you know,
like Justin Bieber bought a dancing monkey or something for
thirty five thousand dollars or something like that, and it's
kind of given NFTs a bit of a bad name,
and people think that, you know, they're a better rubbish,
but what they basically are is the something that's digitally unique.

(01:10:59):
So so what what my company does. We do events
and memberships, and we use the NFTs to create unique
things like you know, an admission, an admission ticket or
a membership card for your club, and the whole thing
can be stored inside your phone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
So that so as you're you're the n f ts,
you're talking about more functional than they are collectible.

Speaker 22 (01:11:27):
Yeah, a lot, you know, like you wouldn't when you
buy a piece of art, where you say I bought art,
You don't say I bought a paper, you know, or
a canvas, you know. And that's that's the playing The
n f T is just the means of storing the
information as opposed to doing the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Itself makes it's on the blockchain.

Speaker 13 (01:11:46):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 22 (01:11:47):
So people only associated with you know, with with a
value like a coin or a or you know, the
meme or anything. It's actually that the n FT itself
doesn't hold a lot of value with the content that does.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yeah, I see what we're saying. It's it's it's it's functional.
So how do you get around are you, you know,
in your business because n f ts are running up
a bit of a stigma. Stigma now and they've sort
of become the buzzword for for for things in a
digital space blowing up.

Speaker 22 (01:12:16):
You know, the with with my with my business. The
the user doesn't actually have to muck around with blockchains
or anything that it will just you download the app
and then your membership card or whatever you will arrive
in your in your digital wallet. So because the users
don't have to touch it, it's it's really really simple.
And also the merchant, the people who like the club

(01:12:38):
or the organization that use our software, they they're just
using the I guess the functional part of it, the
the minting on the on the blockchain. That sort of
stuff all happens in the background. So so all the
all the all the people, all the users are saying
is the end results. But but but by using the
n f T, like like I say, it makes it

(01:12:59):
makes them in digitally unique. So so for instance, you know,
like a like an event ticket or something like that,
you don't want you don't want to have a p
D sent to your email, you know, because they can
be infinitely sold on trade me like they have been.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Yeah, people don't, yeah, I mean people don't often talk
about the functionality of these things. There was some talks
going back to crypto that you could imbard people's bonuses
into the coins that you're paying someone, and there's there's
all that kind of functionality in this world. James, Yes, yeah,

(01:13:35):
that's right.

Speaker 22 (01:13:35):
And also like like after a concert, for instance, we
can then air drop memorabilia for the for the concert
to the the people who went to it, right well,
so which which would be unique to the people who
went there, you know. So you know, I don't know
about you, but I can't stand it when people just
hold their phone up the whole the whole concert.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
You know, it's incredible.

Speaker 22 (01:14:00):
Yeah, you have they go and leave your phone in
your pocket for goodness sake, hopefully people are listening. And
and then you know, after the fact, you know, if
you get sent some some really cool pictures and that
sort of thing because you're an event, because you went
to the event, then you know that that sort of
thing that gates the need to be stood there trying
to record a whole concert on your phone, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
James, do you think when n f t's first launched
and you talked about the board ape and the Justin
Bieber's paying three hundred and fifty thousand dollars for one
of those images NFTs. Do you think it was over hyped?
Does it found a better floor so to speak, now
that the hyper has died down.

Speaker 22 (01:14:36):
I think it's because it was new, you know, and
people thought it was the new space, and it is
and it is fantastic. It's just been given it's just
been given quite a bad rep from because everyone refers
to it as an NFT, whereas the like I say,
when you're selling, when you're selling paintings, you're not saying
I'm buying a canvas.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Yeah, you know, And how's how's your business going, James.

Speaker 22 (01:14:59):
We're just launched. We're just launching the last week or two. Yeah,
so it's very very very new to the market, and
so yeah, we're working on getting it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
What do you call, James, It's called.

Speaker 22 (01:15:13):
Xpunge and for if you dissect the name, it's because
it's non fungible, so x funge. It's xpunge dot com.
And so yeah, anything from a small club with one
hundred members right through to a multinational can can use.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Their software expunge dot com. Thanks, you call James all
the best. Paul here again, don't use my name, Okay,
Peter here again, don't want to talk as my wife
doesn't know about well, let's call him something else. Simon
Simon Simon here again. I don't want to talk because
my wife doesn't know about my crypto as she is
anti it. I have over sixty k currently and started

(01:15:51):
at five K. Made some good calls on Sologenic and
scurium and XRP. Now I'm earning weekly for stacking scoriam.
So there are people out there that are that are
making money.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Yeah, it's a good game from five K to sixty k.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
But he's not. He's not in the meme coin industry.
That was he He's not. Those aren't meme coins.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
I don't it didn't sound like it didn't sound like
pow coin.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Yeah, it's slightly different than pizza coin.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Or coin yeah, or curly snake or whatever you want
to call some of these meat coins, right O. One
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine
two ninety two is the text number. It is eight,
But it's the three.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
B News Talks it is five to two three and we've
been talking about meme coins.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Oh man, this this person has been on your coin
is the one that you lost some money on, Tyler,
I got involved in a pre launch for a coin
called Mpeppie. The website looked professional and the ideas behind
the coin were out there. It appeared to be a
crypto gaming sports betting site. During the pre launch, you
could play free games and win more tokens that you
could buy more coins with. The Telegram group was full

(01:17:05):
of hype and enthusiasm. When it came to launch day,
the cread has disappeared with everyone dollars. I lost my
fifty dollars on that, But I think that might be
different even from this, even a step back from your
pipe coin, I think it is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
I think'st that I also lost money on and then
came along and turned out it was the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Hi, Mett and Tyler. It's all like buying n FT's
non fungible tokens. Thousands got into it, but nothing has
changed over the centuries. Just like lemmings falling off a cliff,
we seem to be slow luners. That's from Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Yeah, very good and guys, These mean coins have no
tangible value. We already read that one, Tyler. Oh, we've
read that one. Oh that's from Matthew.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
You need to turn that one to an NFT and
follow the blockchain so you don't read it twice.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
This is the one I wanted. Mean coins are toxic
to religious people and impressionable people. Bearst for enlightened liberals
who are aware of the risks. Anyone conned by it
as simply idiots.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Well there you go. Yeah, yeah, I agree. If you
lose money on sad Hamster, pizza coin, sponge coin or
poop coin or winer ai, I think you're probably getting
what you deserve.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
We will start work on Heaththereum as we're gonna call
it with his face right on that and we'll see
how we go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Matt and Tyler pucoin.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Right coming up after three o'clock, we want to talk
about bad behavior on flights. What is the bad behavior
you've seen? We're keen on your stories. Soight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call at nine two,
nine two. If you want to flick us a text,
it is three minutes to three. You support and weather
on its way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Good afternoon, your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.
It's Matte and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk. Sebby,
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.
Seven past three. This is gonna be a good hour.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Bad behavior on flights story today in New Zealand. I
had to delay one of their flights to our lay
due to disruptive behavior from a passenger. Now, as quite
often is the case, I didn't say what exactly this
passenger did, but if you have a look at the
Air New Zealand Code of Carriage, it'll are several potential
reasons for refusing service to a passenger who is unruly.

(01:19:20):
So that includes the passenger refusing to obey instruction, instructions
causing offense or discomfort to others, or causing or involving
risks to themselves or others. So highly likely it was
one of those situations in this case.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
So have you seen bad behavior on planes? Weight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty. We want to head about
disruptions on planes, what causes them, what you've seen, and
what you've done, Because I've seen some pretty terrible things
on planes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Let's just start with Actually, I've done some terrible things
on plane. I've heard the story here. I can imagine that.
Let's start with the reclining of seats, though, because you
had a we are we rhyme, which may makes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Me think you've talked about this many, many, many times.
When it's time to dine, you don't recline.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
That's a good way to remember it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
I had someone recline on me and a flight out
of Paris about a year and a half ago, and
that turned into a It turned into a sort of
a tug of war where I just kept pushing the
chairback up. Some reason, there'd been some kind of era
and I'd been bopped at the wrong end of the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
You're in kettle class, and I'm so sorry to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
It was a terrible eraror it's crazy. I couldn't believe
it when I turned the wrong way when I got
on the plane. It was shocking. But then there was
this woman that it was some intent of reclining when
I was trying to dine. You don't recline when it's
time to dine. And I think that plane should be
turned down and turned around and taken back to the port.

(01:20:50):
Of exit and people should be taken off and tasered
for doing that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Just dropped out of the emergency door midflight.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
What did you do?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Is it kind of that pessive aggressive that you just
put your knees up or your hand up, or do
you actually say something to that person and say, hey,
I'm trying to eat here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I did. I said to her, you can't recline, I'm
trying to dine. And she said, I can do whatever
I want. And I said, well, yeah, yeah you can,
but like I've got a meal here, you know, you're
right up in my face. I can't eat it. And
she goes, well, if you weren't allowed to cry and recline,
why would the chairs be able to recline? There? Oh

(01:21:27):
one of those people, and I see it, and I
see it. Well, there's a lot of things. There's a
lot of functionality and a lot of things that you
have to use discretion around. You know, just because something
can do something doesn't mean it has to do that
whenever you want it to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
It's a good morality lesson for that woman. Oh one
hundred eighty ten eighty what was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Actually I'm actually glad there was no one got a
phone out. I think I think that incident on that
particular fly could have easily turned into one of those
humiliating techtok sort of stories that go viral with it
on on plane altercation.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
The one that really does my head, and it's when
you're come in to land and just as they switch
off the seat belt sign and everybody, well actually not everybody,
the good piece people just stay in their seats, but
the real punishers get up, stand up and get into
the middle of the aisle so they can be first
off the plane. What is that about? Just take your

(01:22:16):
seat and wait. It will be an orderly progression of
who gets off the plane based on where you're seated.
You can't just get up and barge your way through.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
One hundred percent. People should be tasted and thrown off
the plane for that and returned back to the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Port of origin exactly one week in jail.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Minimum goes like this, left has priority yep, and all
the way down the plane you don't get to go further.
Everyone all the way down the plane gets to get
their bag and get off in order. Left first.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
I mean you were allowed to be polite if say
there's a pregnant woman or someone with children, yep, and
you might make it easier for them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
A very elderly person, you can go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
You can go first, absolutely, but that's how the right
of way works. And anyone that does that then breaks
that as a bad person. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call bad behavior on flights? What have you experienced and
what does you'll hear and love to hear from you?
It is eleven past three news talks there we're talking
about the worst behavior on flights that you've experienced. There's
a little annoying things that other passengers do that just
really wind you up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
And if you want to rap out if you were
on that plane or know anything about that, why that
plane was delayed from leaving Auckland for nearly two hours?
We need details as a misbehaving passenger was disembarked. Ye
how humiliated that? I mean? That's if Look, we don't
know any details, so there might be another reason, but
I understand it's what are the words that have been
used there? Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
So it was an incident involving a disruptive passenger.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
So the disruptive suggests that they are misbehaving. I mean,
you can be disruptive by I don't know, being sick
or something about that's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Not a medical event. Usually they say if it's a
medical events like being sick.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yeah, So how humiliating to be marched off a plane
for disruptive behavior normally involves the drink, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
So at that point do you just tie them up
at the front of the plane and there's everyone leaves.
They get one free shot at that for an hour
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
That fields the welcome Alvin, you've got a story about
my bad behavior.

Speaker 20 (01:24:22):
Well, I'm just driving along and I heard and I said, yeah,
I know, beauty. In the days I used to travel
back and forth from Japan the n usual, I used
to stop the Fiji on the way back, so you
got to judy free and you were allowed to take
it on board. So a couple of hours out of Auckland,
this character that managed to drink the whole bottle of

(01:24:43):
vodka and others, and he got into a fight with
a passenger behind him. The next thing is there in
the aisle of having a real go at each other.
So the cabin cruise said, we've got to take him down.
So we did, and we sat on him until we
landed in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Wow how long? How long were you sitting on them?
For Alvin?

Speaker 20 (01:25:03):
I don't know how well now in the bet was
he comfy? But it was papers should be reported to
but I do remember it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Yeah, what what year was this?

Speaker 20 (01:25:16):
Oh? Look, I'm saying it's probably early nineties, nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
So yeah, I mean, you can still take your b
why you know, you're your alcohol you can't take you can?
You can if you buy it at at a Judy
free you can take on the plane. But you can't
just be drinking straight out of you one one, two
five of kidneymore, can you?

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:25:37):
I do remember the stun has told him he wasn't
allowed to drink out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I mean, I think it's been
a long time since you've been allowed to do that.
So so did the person that was fighting him on
the path behind? Was he a good person? Was he
in the right? Was he just trying to calm this
person down or was he also ended up in trouble?

Speaker 20 (01:25:57):
No, he was. I think he was trying to maybe
something like your seat adjustment. And then the guy got upset,
and then the two of them really got into each other.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
When you're in a first fight on a plane, you've
gotta sort of ask yourself, you know, how's this going
to end? That's always the thing that I wonder because
there was such strict laws around and rolls around how
you can play it behave on a plane. So when
you're in a first fight, you're going this is not
going to end well for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
There's no getting away. You can't you can't scarp her
off after you have your wee misty cuffs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Not only am I going to be in trouble, but
it's going to be public trouble. As you say, Elvin,
that's going to make the news.

Speaker 20 (01:26:37):
Yeah, that's not the only one. I tell you. The
head of Well have a big corporation in Japan, he
got rotten drunk on and then ms on the flight
and we had to contain him on the floor. Literally,
he went to sleep on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
You are you You're just a passenger on these planes
every couple of weeks, so you've you've had to restrain
two different people on two different flights in your time.

Speaker 20 (01:27:08):
Oh more than that, America that was I can tell
you a story of America. But look that's just a
few of them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
So just on the guy who smashed back the vodka
and got into a wrestle with another persenger. Was that
on in New Zealand?

Speaker 8 (01:27:23):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
I'm going to try and find that story.

Speaker 20 (01:27:25):
It was DC tens of memory. That's not the date throng,
but I do remember it anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
That's a doozy help and thank you very much.

Speaker 20 (01:27:38):
The Japanese one that was in New Zealand as well. Yeah,
he was the head of the Big Steel corporation.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
So if you you want to be on a flight
with Alvin, if any trouble goes down, then he'll sit
on the person until your land and that person could
be safely removed by authorities.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
He's got a lot of experience. By the sound of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
You were never allowed to drink your own Judy Free,
I started as an air flight attendant in nineteen eighty four.
Yeah I knew because I was on a plane with
a mate and he started drinking his beers. So we've
been delayed and he started drinking. He was just cracking
the bottles and I.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Was like, hey, what are you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
I was like, spoos, you can't do that, and he said,
you you can. I was allowed to bring them on
the plane. I was like, no, you can't, can't. And
then I think some of his bottles rolled down the
aisle and then he got.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
The game over. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty couple, one
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call the
worst behavior on flights. Love to hear your stories and
what really does you hid in when you see it
on a flight? It is nineteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Three matd Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
News Talk ZB. We're talking about bad behavior on flights.
This is on the back of any New Zealand flight
to la It was delayed by an hour and a
half after a disruptive passenger incident. That's how they've described it.
No other details.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Yes, we want to hear your complaints about people's but
other people's behavior on planes, although we did a entire
hour at the start of the show and people not
when but anyway, your complaints of people on planes and
oh look at this, Cheryl, you had a friend that
was on that flight.

Speaker 23 (01:29:17):
Yes, I got a text at twenty past two yesterday
from my friend right and it says what a journey
flight to San Francisco was canceled When I started to
write to check in, that was like an eight o'clock flight.
The next flight was eight o'clock in the morning. They
were told next day, but then they got a message
to say they actually could travel by LA. Right, so

(01:29:39):
the plane was due to go at nine ten didn't
leave to ten o'clock. Many from my flight were all
downgraded to economy business as well as premium because my
friend always travels premier economy. So they all got got
on this flight, but we're all downgraded. One man met
ballistic and became very beligerent and aggressive, so the flight
captain wasn't having it, so he taxi back to the

(01:30:01):
airport and after I'd loaded him and his luggage. Wow,
So La my worst night were in airport. And then
because she had trouble with the ongoing bookings, got nothing
matched and you know she's got that sat. The dramas
went on for her from there. You know, they didn't
recognize the flight because things were changing. All of that.
She had all nightmare and seven hours in LA. So

(01:30:22):
that's how her right when you started.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
So your friend was downgraded as well.

Speaker 23 (01:30:27):
Yeah, yeah, but she she took it an economy and
the plane.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
So she but she took it with good grace.

Speaker 23 (01:30:33):
Obviously not very happily, but she didn't want any Zealand
cancers on her last year when she went, and because
she had ongoing book and she ended up paying another
four grand has to go business class because there's an
option to get there. So this is second time, and
he didn't vetted down by canceling a flight.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
When they downgrade, do they say you'll get a refund?

Speaker 23 (01:30:54):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know she's get a
refund on that. She just had flight connections. And you
when you're going for a short time and got the
rest of your holiday planned, did not going days later?
Do you a day later? Because there's nothing nothing did
she did?

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
She sherel Did you have any more details on how
disruptive this particular individual got.

Speaker 23 (01:31:15):
No, I don't know how much she saw. She just
said he went blistered, became very bligerate and aggressive. Well,
I don't know what his problem was, Probably because he
was possibly down the back of the plane when he
was originally booked to go to the front of the plane.
I don't know it sounds like it is usually quite
My friend is usually quite eloquent in her texts and language,

(01:31:36):
so yeah, yeah, and of course then are other dramas,
you know, because then she's trying to unbook her other
flights and you know, so.

Speaker 8 (01:31:44):
You have its sister.

Speaker 23 (01:31:45):
Not easy when you're a mature lady.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yeah, oll think if you call Cheryl.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Well, we asked and and Cheryl delivered.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
So I'm assuming that person has been downgraded from business
class to cattle class. Right to go that to go?
That become belligerent and cause enough problems to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Be ballistic just for being downgraded.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Yeah, Well, the thing is, you know, how much worse
are the consequences of anger than the causes, if you
know what I mean. So he's angry about this situation
that he's been downgraded from business or premium economy, but
to me, it seems like business to get that angry.
And then so his situation has become worse than worse. Yes,
he was looking forward to traveling in business, but not

(01:32:28):
as bad as the plane taxigain And you're getting kicked
off exactly, And then muppets on the radio laughing about you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
So Cheryl, thank you very much. Can I just go
one further. If you know the individual involved and who
went ballistic, we we'd love to hear game and shame.
Who was it? Who was it? Someone famous? We want
to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
I you're assuming that someone famous?

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Now, well, you know, if they've got a bit of
money up the off the front of the plane, you
never know, all right, I one hundred eighty ten eighty.
But we're also talking about bad behavior on airplanes in general.
What are the things that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Really do your head? And if you're flying, keen to
hear from.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
You, I hually will take one more before the headline,
because we've got a bit of time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Paul, Paul, you want to talk about recliners.

Speaker 21 (01:33:12):
Some years ago, I was on a flight walk into
LA and the meal got served and before I could
even pick up my knife and fork right back.

Speaker 8 (01:33:24):
Yeah, So I.

Speaker 21 (01:33:26):
Grabbed the head wrist and I started shaking up from
all I was worth. Got to the nixtuor of Russians back,
asked the lady to put his seat up, sit up,
and then just gave me a sort of a knowing
smile and a nod and keep on going. Problem solved.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Wow, I mean that is it's an effective strategy clearly, Paul.
So the hostess didn't ever go for going Well, Paul
was in the right here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
So Paul was effectively doing the stewart's job because you're
not allowed to recline when it's time to die.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
I said it was an effective strategy, but Paul, it
was you know, you went straight for ten, didn't you,
Rather than than just go slowly, you just start shaking
the head that will get the job done. Or nine
I didn't clock her, okay, yeah, nine, No, it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yeah, yeah, Well see, you get what you deserve if
you recline when it's time to dine. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Absolutely, yeah, you seep as if I'm ever in front
of you guys on a plane, I'm deeply not reclining.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Pulls the good guy in the situation. He's a hero.
He's a hero. If someone reclines when it's time to dine,
then shake shake that there needs to be a you know,
public service announcement, you know the opposite of shake the baby,
shake the seat. Someone reclines when it's time to dine,
shake the seat.

Speaker 8 (01:34:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
A lot of people are angry at my take on that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Oh one hundred eight. If you want to give me
a bit of stick you more than welcome is twenty
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Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about bad
behavior on flights on the back of a story there
in New Zealand flight to la had to be delayed
due to, as we now know, thanks to Sheryl one
of our callers, a man who went the listick because
he got downgraded.

Speaker 8 (01:36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Ah, lot of people got downgraded, but one person was
became belligerent and got downgraded again off the plane, which
wasn't great for the people on the plane because the
plane was delayed for ninety five minutes. So good on you, mate,
Good on you, mate for messing around with a whole
a bunch of other people. But whenever there is a
disruption on a plane, I always think of this moment

(01:36:55):
from Meet the Parents, when Ben Stiller's characters trying to
stow his luggage on a plane.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
I'm sorry, Sarah, you're going to have to check out.

Speaker 18 (01:37:02):
No, I'm sorry that bad won't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
No, No, I'm not I'm not checking my back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Okay, okay, there's no need to raise your voice, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
I'm not raising my voice. This would be raising my
voice to you. Okay, I don't want to check my bag. Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:37:13):
And by the way, your airline, you suck at checking bags, okay,
because I already did that once and you lost it,
and then I had everything screwed up very badly for me.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
Okay, Well, I can.

Speaker 18 (01:37:21):
Assure you that your bag, we'll we play safely below
deck with the other luggage.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Oh yeah, how do you know my bag will be
safe below with the other luggage.

Speaker 9 (01:37:28):
Huh?

Speaker 10 (01:37:29):
Are you physically gonna take my bag and put it
beneath the plane? Are you gonna go right now outside
with the guys with the ear muffs and go put
it in there? No? No, Okay, then shut your pie
hole and listen to me when I say that I
am finished with the checking of the bags conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Sir.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
We have a policy on this airline get a bag
at this lodge, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Okay, it's not like I have a bomb in here.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
It's not like I want to blow a plane.

Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
I just want to stole my bag according to your
safety regulation, sir. Hey, sir, you would take a second
and take a little sticks out of your head, clean
at your ears, and maybe you would see that I'm
a person who has feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
And all I have to do is do what I
want to do.

Speaker 10 (01:38:06):
And all I want to do is hold onto my
bag and not listen to you. And the only way
that I would ever let go in my back would
be if you came over here right now and tried
to pry it from my dead, lifeless fingers. Okay, if
you can get it from my kung fu grip, then
you can come and have it, Okay. Otherwise, step off.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Such a good say, that's so far striting. You're raising
your voice now, I'm not. It's a classic Kathy. What
you got physically thrown off a plane? I understand I did.

Speaker 18 (01:38:34):
I sure did. And I was seventy three.

Speaker 20 (01:38:37):
At the time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Wow what did you do?

Speaker 18 (01:38:39):
Wow, I'm not.

Speaker 17 (01:38:40):
I'm a tiny person seventy three years old.

Speaker 18 (01:38:43):
Well, my fishirt had a stroke and I got the
first plan I could get out of New Zealand to
the United States because it was a midnight's light I
know that I get up in the middle of the
night to go to the bathroom. So I got to
the airport very early to make sure that I could
get an aisle seat, and I did get an aisle seat,

(01:39:06):
and I got on the plane one of the first
people on the plane because I was one of the
first people up the gate, and I was old, here,
I have my bag put away, and it was the
right place bent and I was sitting there for about
ten minutes when a young couple came up and they said,
we're sorry, but you seem to be in our seat,
and I showed them my boarding pass and the person

(01:39:28):
had duplicated passes, so I said, well, I'm sorry, I
been here for ten minutes. And they went and they complained,
and a steward came and he was very nice. He
squatted down next to me and he quietly said, could
we ask you to move to the back of the
plane freeze And I said, look, if you can get
me and i'll see, I'm happy to move. And he said, well,
we can't promise that, and I said, well, I can't

(01:39:49):
get stuck at a one tow see when I got
a peep in.

Speaker 11 (01:39:51):
The middle of the night, you know.

Speaker 18 (01:39:53):
So he bought another man, and that other man towered
over me and kind of pointed his finger down at
me and he said, well, my stack tells you to move,
you move, and people started looking at me. And I said,
but but I was here first. I have a farting path.
And he said, you get there and you go to
the back of the plane and you move, or you

(01:40:15):
get off the plane. And I said, but why, And
that's only this. I didn't yell at. I said, but why,
And he said that's it. You're off and he threw
his hands in the air and I was escorted off wow,
with everybody looking. Everybody looking and go, you know, whispering
about me. And I got to the exit of the
plane and I started crying and I said, my sister

(01:40:36):
is dying and I have to I have to be there.
And he said, well, then you get back there and
you keep you know, he didn't keep your mouth shut.
He said, you get back there and you behave yourself.
And I said, but I just he said you, I
don't want to hear anything from you and I and
I got back on the plane. And when I complained
to AM, I like to say the name of the airlines, yeah,

(01:40:57):
get U. When I complained to Hawaiian Airlines about it,
I said, my my concern is that I would like this.
He was a senior person. I looked at his badge
and he said, that's right. My name is such and
such an. I am the senior supervisor of the senior
steward here. And I said, well, okay, I said, you know,
if you've got a senior steward, that was not only

(01:41:20):
humiliating to me, but it was humiliating to your airline.
Everybody was watching how I was being treated, and they
offered me one hundred dollars discount on my next life.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Right, So, after all that, did you so you didn't
you got physically moved down the plane, but did you
actually go back to your seat a seat afterwards?

Speaker 10 (01:41:41):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:41:41):
No, I got I had to go. I got back
into the airplane and they put me in a middle
steed at the very back row of the airplane. And
the guy who was sitting on the aisle, I said,
would you want to change with me because I'm going
to have to distribute at night to go to the bathroom.
And he said no, you know, he didn't want to change.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Oh well that was sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
You go.

Speaker 16 (01:42:05):
Well, I was just going to say that the.

Speaker 18 (01:42:07):
Person in my situation that was the aggressor was the Steward.
He was under pressure, it was getting late. But I
have never been treated like that by a professional ever
in my life, and I hope never to be again.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Oh thank you for sharing your story with us.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
That was a very well told story. But it sounds
like two alpha personalities coming against each other. Now unfortunately
in Cakes Care for you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Lost that one. This person says absolute fat passengers turn
into five year olds having tantrums when they bought an
aircraft behavior wise and a mentality wise. Yeah, very true. Boys.
When I was loading, when we had a guy who
refused to get off the plane until the police came
and got him. The captain was trying to calm him down.
One of our boys tried to talk to him and

(01:42:52):
he got told to us off. The hostesses were standing
outside the plane. Security came along and they failed. The
police turned up and he went freely with them. That
was before it even took off.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
There you go, keep those stories coming through on oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty worse behavior on a
flight that you've experienced. Keen to get your stories. And
also if you've been booted off a flight like Kathy,
where can to hear from you?

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
What happened. Yeah, I'm interesting to hear the other side
of that story.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Yeah, I want to talk to the steward. It is
twenty two to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
It's a fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heathen,
Taylor Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty news talk they'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
It's nineteen to four and we're talking about bad behavior
on flights and get in some great stories, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 24 (01:43:40):
Good afternoon, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Hey back in me.

Speaker 24 (01:43:43):
It was between nineteen eighty and eighty five. I worked
for a hairdresser in town. We won't mention their names.
The husband and wife flew to Las Vegas for the
World Hairdressing Champs. The husband became belligerent after all the
free grog which they served in those days, and he
got really aggressive, and I believe the purser was the

(01:44:06):
only one allowed to restrain him. He restrained him and
there was a bit of argiebargie. So they made an
unscheduled stop in Hawaii, and when the plane came to
a standstill, the stairs went down. The cops were at
the bottom. They took them away in cuffs. She flew
onto Las Vegas and attended the champs on her own.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Imagine that hangover. You've drunk too much on a plane,
you've become belligerent, you've been restrained, and then you've been
dumped in a different location than you meant to be.
In custody, you would wake up and like such a loser.

Speaker 24 (01:44:45):
We never would known about it, except we had quite
a few stewards and stewardess's coming in for haircuts, right,
and one of them sort of said, hey, did you
hear about And so all of a sudden, the whole world,
our world knew about it. So yeah, quite an entertaining story. Myself.

(01:45:05):
I've never flown. I've never been on an airplane.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Don't you never even not even domestically.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Is there a fear of it, Tony?

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Or you're just not interested?

Speaker 24 (01:45:16):
Well right now because I'm so old. It's on the
bucket list previously. I mean, I live in the best
country in the world. Why the hell would I want
to go anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
I love that good answer. I love that that answer.
Whereabouts do you live? If you don't mind me asking, Tony,
I'm in north code Auckland, North Code Aukland. How does
the North Coke. Tevin, you don't need to go anywhere. Hey,
thank you so much for Thank you so much for
you call Tony. Appreciate that. I imagine being that. You know, So,
you're the wife and your husband's got drunk and belligeon.
He's gone to a fight, he's been restrained, the plane

(01:45:49):
has been diverted, your husband's been taken off. Of course
you've got to continue on. That's you've got to get
out of there. But how embarrassed would you be.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
The anxiety of the husband? I'll be through the roof.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Pete. You've got another story for us.

Speaker 12 (01:46:05):
Yeah, guys. I used to be head of security for
a major international airline for fifteen years, and I could
write several books because I had the pleasure of man
handling people physically for writing to them saying you're no
longer welcome, including quite several New Zealand identities and pop

(01:46:30):
celebrities from around the world, and getting abusive phone calls
from their so called bodyguards in the middle of the night.
But anyway, I won't distract that personally in my personal
observation I encountered before I worked in the airline security
industry in the late eighties. There was a lady on

(01:46:52):
a flight. I think she was a young backpacker on
a flight on Air Olympia. I think it was Greek.
She I don't know whether she'd had a romantic liaison
in the bathroom, but she brought her smalls and draped
them over for the head wrest next to her seat,
which still had some sanguine stains evident to everyone. Truth beautiful,

(01:47:20):
So thanks for that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
There you go. Did she get did she get escorted
off the plane or is that okay?

Speaker 13 (01:47:29):
I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:47:30):
I didn't.

Speaker 12 (01:47:31):
I was too busy taking my gas canisters off.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Thanks for your call. Pete. If you're hanging up, yeah yeah, yeah, gruts,
yeah on someone else's seat, that's a freedom camping. That's
not on. That is absolutely not on. I had an
in New Zealand flight in two thousand and nine from
Hong Kong to Auckland where a Kiwi guy who was

(01:47:56):
on transit got very drunk before getting on the plane.
There's a common denominator and all these stories where he
continued to drink more than he started annoying a girl.
After a few requests to stop his behavior, staff took
him down the back of the plane where he was
strapped down for the right home. Police took him off
the plane in Auckland and he was charged. He had
a problem getting back to Christs that day, as in

(01:48:17):
New Zealand refused him from flying with them getting strapped
up at the back of the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
So have they got specific straps or as you see
in the movies, they just get the seat belt straps
and they just kind of tie you up as bits
they can until they can get on the ground. Yeah,
if you're in the game, how do you restrain them?
Have you got like handcuffs of the plane somewhere that
you can put on an unruly passenger?

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
I mean, and you know you have to be. Yeah,
some pretty strong people out there, and not all aircrew,
are you know buff? Yeah, So you know who restrains
them or do you get I mean we've had a
few call smily from people that are restrained. A lot
of people in his time when he was flying, he

(01:49:01):
was restraining them by sitting on them. Jennifer, Hi, Hello,
you've experienced some unruly behavior on planes?

Speaker 25 (01:49:09):
Well, one was unruly one with somebody that was usual
flying and didn't know what to do. The unruly one was.
I was was back in the seventies when things were
not taken as seriously as they are now. And I
was in the by the window and the person next
to me was an old lady and everybody was putting
their seat thoughts on when she suddenly surged up into

(01:49:30):
the aisle and yelled at the top top of her voice,
this is that that she was going. Jad Tate was
taking over the plane and I said to her, you'd
probably have been and it was a hush it which
yielded it was a hijack. And I said, if this
was a mirror for somebody would probably.

Speaker 8 (01:49:46):
Have shot you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
At this point, it wasn't a hijack. It was it
was was she doing? What a joke? Hijack? What was
she doing?

Speaker 25 (01:49:53):
She'd always wanted to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
On your bucket list?

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:50:00):
Rather odd, But if I say, in those days, people
wouldn't make such a fuss about someone doing something like that.
So so nobody complained that the other one was not released.
It was understanding. I was going back down to Varsity
on the plane and this girl of about sixteen was
in the seat next to me, and she said, I've
never flown before but I'm quite confident. I'm not at

(01:50:22):
all worried. Anyway, We're just about to take off, and
she suddenly got down and got under her seat, and
I said, what earth are you doing? She said, I'm
just getting my parachute. I said, they don't issue parachutes
to passengers. That's when she got worried.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
They are great stories, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Imagine if they did try and run parachutes on a plane,
considering how long it takes for people to disembark, if
you're going down, and everyone had to get their parachute
out and try and get out the door.

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
Good luck.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
I can't see that one working. I didn't. Yeah, we'll
go one more, Chris, get a Chris.

Speaker 12 (01:50:58):
The base out and very trivial, I know it is,
but I was on a flight from the christ Church
and you know, in the middle seat, you know, you
look at cramped. It's sort of an unwritten rule that
you get both elbows, you know, on the homo sides
of the whether those things are in between.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
You yep, the armories you're talking about, Yeah, the armory.

Speaker 8 (01:51:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:51:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:51:25):
So about quart of the way through flight, I felt
around picking up a magazine or something like that, and
then both of these ladies that I didn't know took
them off me on each side, and then I was
stuck there, you know, with my shoulders clenched inwards, you know,
like sort of like a pencil for the rest of

(01:51:46):
the flights. Not wanting to be rude, I was like,
that's poor etiquette from these two Shielers. But I don't
want to be rude because I don't want the coppers
coming for me. Thinking what I'm thinking to say, I
had absolutely self control.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Yeah, well good on you. But you've got to establish
your real estate real fast. When you sit down, you
pick your arm rest that you need gress, and you
you claim that real estate for everything you got.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Well, I think the roof.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
Can you give up both?

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
I don't know if there is a I don't know
if there's a set rule that the airline's told, but
I believe and I would. I would fight for my
territory to the point of getting the plane turned around.
If you're in the middle seat, you get your what
you want off both armrests.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Or can you get both of them so you're in
the middle, and then the one on the left gets
the left one towards the window. And the other person
gets the oil one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Yeah, if you're in the middle, you get both armrests.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
It does sound fear, I'm just trying to think in
their official you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
You don't need to be a dick about it. Yeah,
but your arms at the back there because you're in
the middle. Otherwise you've got you don't have nearly as
much sort of room to move. Yeah, you know you're
you're you're sting to be you know you're stuck in there.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
So what would you do if you're in Chris's situation?
Would you just give the nice weed tap, just the
slow push off your arm wrest, start.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
With a full chicken wings bang out to the side.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
You just take it straight to the extreme And sorry, ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
I open with elbows. Oh I think you I think
I mean? Am I wrong? One hundred eighty ten eighty
nine two nine two? I'm pretty sure that.

Speaker 8 (01:53:15):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
I've always taken that as the rule that if in
you're in the middle, you get both armories. Yeah, tell
us what you think it is. I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
Nine minutes to four oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Just quickly a bunch of people who work in the
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Speaker 12 (01:53:40):
Three.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Yes, they do have handcuffs and cable ties on boards.
Yeah goodness, yeah absolutely yeah. Uh Peter, you used to
be Kevin crew.

Speaker 9 (01:53:50):
Yeah no, I was Flate teck ah And what was
the situation training check? One of the last whites out
of Willings on the DCA flight check just across the
ditch James to Sydney, and we had a lady who
was drunk a skunk and running off with her toy
boy who was three feets ahead of hers, and he

(01:54:10):
was egging her on and she was just getting more
and more wound up. And in the end she kicked
one of the stewards in the ball and put him
out and they wave waved that he got up, and
then they called the captain. He was a check captain

(01:54:30):
and the rest of us were laughing at heads off.
Actually put the captain and I said, don't forget your hat,
don't forget your book of rules, and take a baton
with her and hit it between the eyes and wake her.

Speaker 13 (01:54:40):
Up, and he said, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
I'm joking.

Speaker 9 (01:54:44):
Anyway, he went down and he got kicked in the
balls as well, and he went down. Male stewards jumped
on told him and cuffed him. I cussed her and
put her in her feet way down the back. The
cops got on and the cops dragged her off, and

(01:55:06):
first of all, shot had a girl down next to her,
a female cop, and the rest of them were heavy,
big guys, I mean big, big guys, cuffy. They said
to her, you're going to behave of course, and then
this girl sat down beside her. She still was cuffed
in front bow. Anyway, she was nice as high and

(01:55:30):
all the rest of it. And then as soon as
they started moving all the passengers off, she turned to
the cops sitting next to us and put the cuffs
across the side of the chart of her cheek and
opened it up right to the bone. Wow, that was
New Wales, please, because they picked her up about six
feet in the air and threw her onto the deck.

(01:55:53):
All the pasteonts were going on this stage, and they
took her off the back stairs on the DC eight
and they grabbed it by the legs and dragged it
down the stairs.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
I bet they did.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
I mean that is uninged. Well, that's that's quite a story. Yeah,
that's all from us. The fabulous hit The Doup of
c Ellen is up after news until tomorrow.

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