Full Show Podcast: 07 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good are you Great? New Zealanders? Welcome to Pod number
one five five on the seventh of July twenty twenty five.
Great show today. Now Maddie is not here for this
little bit here because he's got to shoot back to
the airport to fly back up to Auckland. He's been
down in the beautiful city of Dunedin for the past
few days at the All Blacks, the Lucky Bugger and

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catching up with his family. But a really good show today.
We talked about what was the best way to get
your kids back to school? So some fantastic calls on
that one, including one woman that shot her Is that
the right word?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I suppose it has shot her children in the face
with the water gun to get them out of bed,
so that seemed to work. Then after two o'clock we
talked about zoos. Are they crawl or are they awesome?
And some pretty grunty discussion there. Then after three o'clock,
people who have been married three times? Edmunds TV personality
superstar in the UK and here in New Zealand he's

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getting married to his third wife for the fifth time.
I'll let you work that out. But that was a
great chat and had some fantastic calls on that hour.
But download subscribe, give us a review all that good stuff,
and in the meantime, give them a taste.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 4 (01:37):
Be.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday show. Hope you're
doing well wherever you're listening in the country ghetto.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Matt's get a Tyler gide everyone. I'm coming to you
live from Dunedin City, my hometown, the pretty city here
in the panoramic Insidney studios down here, beautiful view.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Tyler, you've been filling up on mutton pies and cheese
rolls and what other southern delicacies. I saw you. You
sent through a photo of your mutton pies outside the
local bakery. It was good to see man.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I was dipping cheese rolls into seafood chowder just yesterday
afternoon and it was delightful, absolutely delightful. Saffron the Lunar Cafe,
Anthoneen and anyone that's been down here is beautiful, beautiful views,
and there's so many great places in this town. I've
had a fantastic time, although I did I'm not going
to go into the details, but I did briefly get

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lost up in the Silver Peaks area for a while
on a run. But you had a pretty punishing holiday,
and didn't you have the worst holiday you've ever had
in your life?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It was a disaster. And look, don't get me wrong.
I was pleased to get at least a couple of
days in the Mulborough Sounds that was absolutely beautiful. But
when we were talking about the show a couple of
fridays ago before we took the time off, that weather
bomb came in. Actually I hate that term. The weather
came in and it was pouring down with rain and
molbraugh and there was a civil defense emergency and I thought,
she'll be right, She'll be right. So we drove down

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straight after the show, got into Wellington, stayed the night there,
then got into Marlborough Sounds into Picton and the road
was completely washed out to the batch, so we stayed
a couple of nights and Picton with the in laws
managed to get through eventually. Luckily, the father in law
has a pretty grunty four will drive, so followed him through.
Got three days in the batch in the middle of

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the Molbra sounds, and then we decided to leave early
because there was some more rain coming through. And I'll
tell you what, it did not let up for the
whole week. It just rained and rained and rained. The
fishing was terrible. Got a couple of red cod. Nobody
likes red god, so we spent another couple of nights
in Picton. Then we booked the faery on Friday, plenty
of time to get back to Auckland, and got on

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boards on the Connimara the Blue Bridge. We're on board
for about four hours before we get a knock on
the cabin door saying I'm really sorry, but we're going
to have to disembark everybody because they had some sort
of technical issue and that whole fairy was out of
action for a couple of days. So we ended up
we ended up having forget. I was a disaster and
I was stressed to the max. I mean may have
thought it was a big adventure, so good on her.

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But the fairy we managed to get was five o'clock
on Saturday, so I or we had the drive through
back to Auckland and we got back yesterday morning at
four am. Wow, so wistful, massively stressful. I was about
to get on the phone to our boss here ed
Swift and say, mate, I'm not coming in on Monday.
I'm gonna have another few days in the main plant.

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But hey, we got here and you mate, are still
in Dunedin.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah, well that's right. I decided to stay down here
for a little bit longer. But yeah, you did the
holiday the hard way. I just got on a plane
flew to Dunedin. My dad picked me up and he's
been looking after me like some kind of butler last
because he's a great man, and just being served food
and sitting around and watching sport and it's been fantastic.
So I'm rested your stress.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Listening on with the show, I'm glad you had a
great holiday.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
On to today's show after three o'clock. This is going
to be a great discussion. So no, no, Edmunds huge
TV star over in the UK. He is going to
have his fifth wedding to his third wife. If you're
a bit confused, well explain it.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
So fifth wedding to its third wife. So he's had
three wives and this is the third wife. Yep, but
he's married of five times. They have they broken up
between the marriages or is it just a re re
showing your love's type situation? They just love weddings.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, it appears they love weddings. And this is the
fifth time. And this is the fifth reproposal when he
reproposed to his third wife in his hot tub in
his Tasman estate here in New Zealand. Say he's seventy six,
his wife Liz Davies's fifty five. That is quite unusual
to not only have three wives, but also your third wife.

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Third times a charm obviously, but to repropose five times.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
He's a great man. Noel Edmunds. Noel Edmunds house party
was a fantastic show back in the day. Shout out
to mister Blobby. If he's moved to New Zealand with
Noel Edmunds, can we get Noel Edmonds on the line.
I'd like to get the details on it. But a
wider question, it looks like he's pulled off the third marriage, right. Yeah,
I'm always suspicious of third marriages, so I'd like to
hear from people on our eight hundred and eighty ten

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eighty who have had a successful third marriage. I know
people that have been married three times and I've refused
to get them a present for the third.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Time, as you should. Yeah, I mean, that's a massive
ass that you've been to the first two weddings. You've
got them a nice bread maker, and then they want
a third one.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Come on, Yeah, there's got to be a certain amount
of you have to be reasonably humble, I believe, and
I could be wrong. I love to hear people's opinions,
but in the third marriage it has to be a
more humble affair than the other two, I believe, because
the first one's a big deal. It's fantastic, you believe
in love, it's going to be forever. Yeah, But by
the third one, you've got form in terms of not

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being able to successfully pull off a.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Marriage nicely said. That is after three o'clock, looking forward
to your calls. Then after two o'clock. A gruesome story
out of Australia. A woman in her fifties. She appears
to have had her arm taken off after a line attack.
This is at Darling Down zoo, and it's understood she
was an employee horrific.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
But we want to.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Talk about the perception of zoos in twenty twenty five
many a controversial. There's a growing school of thought about
sometimes the cruelty element of some zoos out there in
the world, or do you think they are actually awesome.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
I think zoos are fantastic. I think Auckland Zoo is
a great zoo. I can kind of see people, you know,
you don't like to see sad animals. I also believe
that if a lion takes your arm off, then that's
just a line lion being a lion, lion a lion
being a lion, and you've just got it. You can't
blame the lion for doing that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
That is what they do.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
They take that's poor security, or that's user era, that's
human era. You've got a line in a zoo. But yeah,
a lot of people I know hate zoos. They won't
go to them. They think the whole idea of it's
cruel I don't know about that. I think it's the
wonder you see in children's eyes when they go to
a zoo and see these creatures that they may never
be able to see, and I think it's just a
fantastic thing learning experience for kids. So I love zoos,

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but you've got to be nice. They can't be in
a tiny little cage. But the animals at Auckland Zoo,
I think get to have a bit of a roam.
But yeah, as I say, if I was at the
Oakland Zoo and a lion took my arm off, I'm
not gonna Kappa Bara took sunglasses at one pointment. That's
another story.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, you can't blame the kipibar either. That's what they do.
They take some classes and lions take arms.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
That is after two o'clock. Looking forward to your thoughts
on that one then. But right now, let's have a
chat about kids not going to school. So new data
shows thousands of kids haven't been enrolled for more than
a year in school In the last three years, three
four hundred and fifty eight of the Education Ministry's non
enrollment cases for five to fifteen year olds have remained
open for more than thirteen months. That's a big increase,
or there was a big increase. From twenty twenty four

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to twenty fifteen, eleven thousand students in twenty twenty four
waren enrolled. That was a five hundred and seventy six
percent increase from twenty fifteen. So the Graham Dingle Foundation,
they work with disadvantage youth and CEO Joe Malcolm, said
that they had seen a rise in young people using
their services, but she went on to say what we
measure as well, because we are primarily in schools is

(09:00):
unjustified absences. So young people that are enrolled in school
but just aren't coming.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, I mean, as a parent, one of your absolute
basics and life is to enroll your kids in school.
There's probably it's probably in the top five things that
you have to do. You know, how's them, feed them,
love them, get them to school. Yeah, is probably another
one come up before. But you know, maybe it's one
of the four basics. But if you're not enrolling your

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kids in school, Jesus, that's that's not great, is it?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, No, it's not. But for the parents out there
that struggle to get their kids to school every day,
I imagine there's a so many people listening right now
where that is quite a common problem because kids can
be you know, you know, mate, you're a father that
if a kid doesn't want to go to school or
something is happening, the ability to try and coerce them

(09:52):
or force them to get to school each day can
be really tough for some parents.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Well, I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this, because
I've always had a zero tolerance policy for it. You
essentially you kids have to go to school. There's no
there's no debate. I think around COVID everyone got a
bit weak around it, and a kid could just pretend
to be sick and not get to go to school.
But my parents had a very you have to go
to school attitude, and I've always had a veryer you
have to go to school attitude. There's never been a
debate about it. But I also think you can be lucky.

(10:20):
I think I've been lucky with my kids and they've
enjoyed school, and they've gone to school and they've done well.
But I know friends who every morning it is a battle,
It is a fight to get their kids to just
get out of their room and go to school. So
it's a huge stress in their life. And I don't know,
I don't know if you can put that down to
bad parenting. I think you can have bad luck with

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your kids. Yeah, I think there's different there's different different
situations that go on. So I wa e. One hundred
and eighty ten eighty. How do you get your kids
out the door if you've struggled with it and you've
found a way to get them out the door in
the morning to get to school. Is it just a
massive stress in your life that you're having to do.
But I would say it's one of the things you
have to do as a parent. You have to get

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them to school, you have to get them enrolled, and
you have to get them to school.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Absolutely. I do wonder how much of a role the
schools play these days. Is when I was at school
and I wagged, and I had some days where I
wagged off school, pretty quickly my parents would find out
because they had that system in place that, oh, Tyler
didn't appear at science, we better contact as parents and
find out where he is. And so Mum and dad
would find out pretty quick that I didn't go to

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the last couple of periods of school. But I wonder
if that is so those systems are still in place
where if your kid doesn't show up, the school instantly
starts making phone calls and that process kicks in.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah. Absolutely, but you can be hassled by the school.
But if you've got a kid that's and a kid
can be quite big at fifteen, you can have serious problems.
Just physically getting them out the door can be a problem.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right, Yeah, yep, very true.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
It's all very well and good if you're lucky enough
to have kids that are great and want to go
to school like I do and I have had. But
what do you do if you've the school's told you
your kids not going to school and you and they
still won't go to school. I mean, attendance is up
this year across schools across New Zealand. I was just
looking at the stats before, what are they up? It's

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up to here go the stats. They want it to
be ninety four percent. I think we're running at eighty
percent at the moment.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's good news. That is going in the right direction. Yeah. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you're a parent listing and you've struggled to get
your kid to go to school on a regular basis.
Love to hear from you if you've got tips and
tricks for how you get your kids to school. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is seventeen past one. Back very shortly here on
News Talks there B. You're listening to Matt Tyler.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News
TALKS'B News Talks.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
There'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about
new figures are just released that shows thousands of New
Zealand kids haven't been enrolled in school for more than
a year. We've taken it a bit wider than that though.
We've asked you the question how hard is it to
get your kids to school on a regular basis? If
you've had problems getting your kids to school each day,
we'd love to hear from you on eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Yeah, And the story comes up around a certain percentage
of schools students that aren't even enrolled in school. So
that's terrible parenting. If you've got a kid and you
can't even enroll yourself your kid in school, then there's
serious questions need to be asked about your level of
commitment to being a parent. But I will say that
enrolling your kid in school it's quite an involved process

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in the times I've done it, maybe because my kids
have gone to contested zone schools, but it tested me
in terms of, you know, justices of the peace and
finding all the all the jabs have had and everything
that there was a lot. There was quite a lot
to it.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
It took you a few days to get sorted, didn't it.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, I did. But but then again, I'm a parent,
so it's absolute basic that you get it sorted out
into school.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
There should be absolute public shaming if you if your
kid isn't enrolled in school, then shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
But this Texas is a good point. It's kind of
what I was saying before about getting your kid out
the door to school. If you're small oller than your
fourteen year old and he threatens you, nothing you can do.
That's biologic and biology and physics. They have to they

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have what they do, what they want. Yeah, I mean
that's a huge problem. Teenage kids can get pretty big, Yeah,
and every morning you're going into battle to get them
out the door. Yeah, can be pretty tough. It could
be pretty tough for solo pearans, you know, absolutely, but.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know, going back to to I don't know what
role the school could plan that scenario, but uncles or
rallies to come around and physically get that kid out
of bed and hog tie to get them to school.
You know what else do you do to try and
get a child like that to school? If they are
quite big and they say no, I'm not going and
you can't make me.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
It's so easy to sit here in my palatial panoramic
studio in Duneda and go, you know, get your kids
to school. And we all believe that that's an important thing,
but the actuality of it can be quite hard. Children
are teenagers, are forceful human beings.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yep, absolutely, let's out of the phones, Mirriam. Very good
afternoon to you.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Yeah good. How are you going?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yes, yeah, very good. And what's your situation have you?
I take it you've got a couple of children yourself.
Are they still at school?

Speaker 8 (15:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:21):
I've got one still at school. But it was the
middle when I had more trouble with getting to school,
and as a single moment, wasn't that easiest because they
had no one decking me out. But I kept in
touch with the school. We had a few meetings at home,
probably a couple of meetings at home, and the last

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resort was getting the police involved.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Wow, so the police did the police come round and
hassle them out the door of the place.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
The police come and took her. Supposedly she wasn't she
was determined she wasn't going to school, and they were
going to take it to the cop shop for the day.
But she actually did go to school, and she was
setting a little off the side of the school office
and she stayed there for the day and I got

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to pick her up for their feet and it worked.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well, Miriam. Good on you for just keeping going against
you know what's quite a difficult obstacle to obviously get
out the door, but to keep trying things.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
I've thrivened that and I had to carry through. And
I was just lucky that the school was on my
side and they got the police on side as well.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
That did that? Did that finish the problem? Mariam?

Speaker 8 (16:46):
Sorry?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Tyler? Did that finish the did?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Did?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah? Right? And what did the police say to them
when she she spent a bit of time with them?
Do you know, did she give you a bit of
an insight?

Speaker 7 (17:01):
Wouldn't wouldn't have a close She didn't tell me it was,
but it didn't happen again.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
That tell me how that situation went down? Mariam was
the doors kicked in with her dasers out? How did
it go down?

Speaker 9 (17:15):
No?

Speaker 7 (17:16):
No, she had just been happily. She knew she wasn't
going to win against a couple of police officers, and
she thought that she was just going to spend a
day at the plast station rather than go to school,
and she thought that was going to be pretty cool.
But as it turned out, she ended up as a
say at school for the day and I had picked

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her up just before everybody got released for the day,
so they didn't see her in their pajamas and no
shoes or socks on.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Now does it? What did they talk about? What authority
the police have in those circumstances? Do they have the
authority of appearance? He is come and take my kid
to the police station or the school.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
With the backing of the school. I know there was
a lot of paperwork that the deputy principal had to do.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, right, well, yes, I said before I've got on
you for just trying every revenue to sort out the
problem because you knew that going to school is an
important thing, so you just kept trying. So that's that's
admirable from you, Miriam. Thank you for your call no worries.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Thanks, thanks so much, and hats off to our police
force as well by coming around and saying we'll sort
it out. Mum, don't worry where your daughter's coming with
us for the day and rest assured by the time
you get it back, she'll be.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Good as gold. I like the idea, just some you know,
tear gas smashes through the window, please storm the door,
Tasers out. You know you're you're forced into the back
of a handcuffs on in the back of a police
wagon after school.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Scare them straight. It is twenty six past one. Keen
to get your thoughts on O eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty If you had an issue getting your
kids to school, what worked for you? Really? Keen to
have a chat with you. Nine two nine to two
is the text number. It is twenty six past one.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
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Speaker 5 (19:03):
Breakfast, we have Deputy Prime Minister David symour this independent
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Speaker 9 (19:08):
I do.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
I don't think it's ever made sense speaking just for
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(19:29):
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On the first wa why would we pay for stuff
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Hither duplicy?

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Ellen on the mic asking breakfast back tomorrow at six
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Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's twenty nine past one and we've asked the question
how hard is it to get your kids to school
in twenty twenty five? If you've gone through that.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Bat all love to hear from you this co text
your kids to school, Try taking the internet router out
with you, or unplug and hide it. When I didn't
go to school, when I was kred, if I was
genuinely sacked, there was nothing to do. It was boring
being at home. Who was absolutely pun I'd watch Aerobic's
Hods Style and then there'll be nothing else to do
for the day. So Jesus size, yeah, people have a

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certain note, we'll know what I'm talking about. But anyway,
you know, it is pretty fun and entertaining to be
at home if you're a kid these days, you know,
so if you got what your games you can play,
there's internet, there's social media, all that kind of stuff.
I think if a kid stays at home, all that
stuff has got to be off right. You've got you
can't make staying home from school fun. This this TEXTI

(20:37):
here says thing, and I think this is a real problem.
I got bullied, real bad in nineteen ninety seven. I
was eleven, hated hated school. Mum kept me going. I
got suicidal. My older brother figured it out and got
mum to change schools. Yeah, I mean that is that
is the question. Why isn't your kid going to school?
And if they're just getting horribly bullied. I guess that's
when as a parent you need to engage with the

(20:58):
school and try and engage with the kid and find
out what the real problem is. Because if it's just
incredibly horrible to go to that particular school, I'm sure
you can get help to move them to an other school.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, and if you've been through that situation, love to
hear from your on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Lisa,
how are you?

Speaker 11 (21:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (21:16):
Good?

Speaker 8 (21:16):
Thanks?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Hey, you guys doing very good this afternoon. So what
was your technique to make sure the kids went to school?

Speaker 13 (21:22):
So it was only my son. He was just lazy,
wouldn't get up. So I just got the water gun
and put fridge cold water in it, and I would
give them two chances. We always had a one, two
three rules, so through third one there's a consequence. So
fridge cold water got them up. Every single time you
have to touch them, you just got pulled. The sheeps
backed them with the water.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
He's a three much a.

Speaker 13 (21:44):
Girl get out of bed. If he got to that
three and he got the water gun, then I'd also
take his phone.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Off him for a week, right, Yeah, because once, yeah,
because once you have water gun then you're out of options, really,
aren't you except for the phone. That's that's smart. You
got to you got to keep escalating from the water gun.

Speaker 13 (22:02):
So well you got both they got with the water
gun and the phone taken.

Speaker 11 (22:05):
Not from them.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
How often was he remember when.

Speaker 13 (22:09):
Our dad used to chop thee the power chords on
the TV, them all off. You couldn't do anything. There
was nothing to do.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
I remember because I remember when my kids, my parents
would come home and they check the TV. That immediately
put their hand on the top of the TV to
see how hot it was.

Speaker 13 (22:28):
The things that you couldn't plug it in, so there's
nothing we could do.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean the old power cord on the TV.
M'm always threatened to do that and I thought, you
won't do that. That's an expensive TV, mum, and we
can't afford another TV. And then she did it, and
that was me thinking, Okay, I'm going to behave now
because I you know, I really needed that TV. Need
to take these.

Speaker 13 (22:46):
Days, parents are just too soft on their kids, worried
about what John is going to think or do it.
It's like two keys, like you're a kids. There has
to be you know, consequences for your actions, and if
you don't and you need to follow through, you can't go.
If you don't do this, I'm going to do that.
If you keep doing that, they're just going to think
I won't do it. You actually have to have like

(23:07):
a strategy where you know, you get the three strike
rule and on the third strike, whatever you say you're
going to do, you have to follow through.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Lisa, how many times do you reckon? Did you you
followed through with the water gun?

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (23:18):
Yeah, it's quite a few times. But it got them
out every single time and got out of bed also
when I threatened it and didn't have to use it.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But what type of water gun
are we talking here? Was it one of those huge,
really cool super soakers that you get.

Speaker 13 (23:33):
No, that was just a little squirt gun from the warehouse.
It didn't take much because when you get fridge cold
water and your founder's sleep.

Speaker 11 (23:40):
It's not good.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That would do the job.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
It's sort of it works. I don't know what's the
current rule on and this is slightly off topic. Are
you supposed to spray dogs with cold water? Stills that
you're supposed to educate dogs because.

Speaker 13 (23:52):
And cats because it doesn't hurt and they just don't.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah, so dogs, cats and kids.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Sometimes husbands as well. Oh yeah, everything, Lisa, you're great,
Thanks for very very much for giving us a buzz.
All right, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. That is
a great technique. A bit of cold water to the face.
We'll get most people out of bed. But plenty of
teachs coming through on nine to ninety two.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
A secondary school teacher here that the work with teenagers
is done when they are little two three, four five.
You need to establish that you are the parent and
the aar to do what they are told. Limit choices.
You also need to learn which battles to fight. Ig
let them get the piercing. But they must attend school.
That's an interesting one. And keep the lines of communication

(24:38):
open so they talk to you and tell you what's
going on if there's a real problem at school. As
a parent, you need to support your child, but keep
an open mind and be prepared to see things from
the school's perspective, but also keep advocating and supporting your child.
It is very hard doing that, though, if you haven't
laid the foundations as a parent when they are as
little as they need to be a give and take

(25:00):
from your child to be able to work through the
school problems when they are teenagers. Good luck to all
the parents out there. Thank you for that text, n
It's a fantastic text.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
There's a few techs coming through and we'll read some
of those after the headlines about their children being bullied
and not wanting to go to school. And it took
them a bit of time to find out that information.
If you've been in that situation, really keen to hear
from you on oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
what were your tips and tricks of getting your child
to go to school on a regular basis? If they

(25:31):
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(26:24):
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Speaker 2 (26:59):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. It's twenty one to two.
We are talking about getting your kids to schools. New
data shows thousands of kids haven't even been enrolled in
school form mone more than a year. And as we
talked about a little bit earlier this hour, Matt, I mean,
not enrolling your child in a school full stop is
pretty outrageous.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Yeah, I'd like to get together the probably the top
five things you have to do as a parent, But
I think enrolling them in school would be one of
those things. Yeah, one of the absolutely. You know, you've
got to obviously feed them and put a roof over
their head and clothe them and house them, and but
schooling's got to be up there. Yeah, as something you
are a pretty lame parent if you are willing to

(27:39):
go through the admin and enroll your kids at school.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
The old Maslow hierarchy. Absolutely, And we also talked about
because we had a lot of texts on about kids
who were getting bullied in school and the parents didn't
know about it, so they thought the kids just were
being difficult not going to school. This Texter, Hi, guys,
my daughter is getting bullied and a very unsympathetic teacher

(28:01):
so have told her she won't be in trouble if
she punched the boy and told her to do it
in front of people, but can be very difficult to
get to go to school.

Speaker 15 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Well, I remember when I was first went to high school.
I came from a very different intermediate and I chose
to go to this high school because I wanted to
play basketball. It was the best basketball school whatever. And
I was getting massively bullied at school when I started,
just because I didn't know any kids and I was
a little kid when I started school had a massive
growth spurt. But I took the approach of just psychotic

(28:31):
violence against the bullies until it was sort of stop.
But I was terrified. I was terrified to go to
school for a while, you know, for the first few
months at that new school. But I'm not sure what
the best strategy is because that strategy might not That
strategy doesn't always work. I mean, it can blow back
in your face terribly.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
I was lucky that that strategy worked for me, But yeah,
I don't know. And that is a real problem because
you know, your kid may seem to be very very difficult,
but you might be sending them into a hell hellish
situation at their school.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, and sometimes changing schools is not a strategy that worked.
So if you've been in that situation or currently in
that situation, your child is facing some pretty serious bullying
at their current school and is not wanting to go,
how are you dealing with it? Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Plenty of
texts coming through on nine two ninety two, but we're
a bit late. We'll play some messages and come back

(29:25):
with more of your calls. Love to hear your stories
on Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What is
the best way to get your kid to go to
school on a regular basis? It is nineteen to two.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
everything in between.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
They'd be very good afternoon to you, and we're talking
about what are the best tips and tricks to get
your kids to go to school on the regular basis.
It's on the back of new figures out that shows
thousands of kei we kids haven't even been enrolled in
school for more than a year. That is at the
extreme end, but no doubt about it, it can be
very hard yep for parents to get their kids to

(30:05):
school on a regular basis in twenty twenty five, any
a good teach coming.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Through with regards to kids not going to school. I
think the Dingle research it cracks me out. I mean,
I'm an immature person, but the fact it's called the
Dingle research lowes it's credibility anyway. So I think the
Dingle research mentioned lockdowns have an impact on student's attendants,
and I very much believe that lockdowns did impact students
going to school. But we need to remember and knowledge

(30:30):
that students in Auckland were most impacted by numerous lockdowns,
including the unnecessary long lockdown at the end of twenty
twenty one. Students in Auckland needed specific support support to
re engage with the schools. Yeah, I mean that incredibly
long lockdown in Auckland did a lot of damage to kids'
attendants to school and also the perception that you have

(30:51):
to go to school. Yeah, because as I was saying before,
with my kids, it was always you have to go
to school. And when I was a kid, my parents
there was a zero tolerance. You just went to school, right,
So you never, even at any point in your schooling career,
there was no debate about it at all, But then
we're the lockdowns. It came in, and then there was
sort of this push that going to school was suddenly

(31:12):
not the most important thing in the world, that there
were things that were more important than going to school,
which had never been never really been a discussion before.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
In my opinion, it's a messive part of it. When
they had the ability to start to do some of
those elements and subjects from home. I imagine in children's mind,
they think, why can't I do this all the time,
even though we're trying to get back to normality here
and hopefully covids in the distance past. I imagine some
kids are thinking, I don't need to go to school anymore.
I can just see some of the stuff from home.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
And also, you know, going to school is quite an
intense thing, and that's one of the reasons why we
go to school to socialize ourselves. But this goudden anxiety
inducing thing going to school every day and facing hundreds
and hundreds, potentially thousands of other students other students. But
you have to do it, and the more you do it,

(32:01):
the better you are at dealing with it. But by
people not attending for a long time, I think they
lost those skills they became and correct hibernating in their house.
You know, they got used to hiding away from school.
But there's no doubt that school is quite an intense
thing for young people to approach. You know, you're walking
through the gates with hundreds and hundreds of kids. It's

(32:22):
quite an intense thing.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah. Absolutely, this is a good text Fellas. I lent
my second TV to a good mate. His kids watched
it too often and didn't listen to him, so he
cut the plug off a week later and then threw
it away. And I'm an electrician, so not hard to repair.
My other TV then failed within a month, gutted. Not
hard to get my three kids to school. So feel
for the parents that battle as I see it daily.

(32:44):
And we talked to Lisa a little bit earlier, apparent
who that was the final step if you didn't go
to school, I'm going to cut the plug on the telly.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
But that's hard, and the modern day version of that
is taking the internet router with you when you go
to work. So if your kids are going to stay
at home and not go to school for whatever reason,
even if they're sick, because it can't be fun to
be at home no matter what. And look, there's a
lot of support coming through for me pointing out that
the only decent thing to watch on TV when I

(33:14):
was a kid if you were at home was Arobic's
OZS Style. Yeah, there was a number of reasons for that,
but it can't be fun, right, So if they're home,
all you're doing. If you're home, you have to be
so sick that you're just lying in bed recovering. So
you've got to take that router out the door with you.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Exactly the dickster, says Matt. I told my physics teacher
one day that I had to leave class to go
to the police station to be fingerprinted for a murder investigation.
Instant attention for blatant lies. The principal got me out
of class. When the police came to pick me up,
still got detention. Classic to Meru, and that's a hell
of a strategy to get out of class.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Well, I had a friend who told the teacher that
their grandmother had died. Without realizing that the teacher small
town stuffed this that the teacher was really close to
the grandmother, and the teacher started crying, saying, oh no,
I'll no Mary's there is terrible life, terrible life.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
That will do it though, Oh one hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It is twelve to
two back very surely you're listening to Matt and Tyler
very good afternoons.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
You Matteath Tylor Adams taking your calls on oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams
Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
News Talks there B and we have been talking about
what is the best way to make sure that your
children go to school on a regular basis. Some great
teachs coming through on nine two nine.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Two X cop here from South Auckland. We used to
get the kids down to the station so parents would
have to get off their backstards and do something otherwise
dropping them off at school as a band aid problem.
So what they pick up the kids taken to the
police station and ring the parents and say you're going
to have to get your kids from down here.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, that's more to call police and I love it.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
I don't know, I'm I'm sure I could find this out.
Someone might be able to tell me. On oh one
hundred eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two? But
what are the police's power? What power do the police
have to just because we had Lisa, was it Lisa?
I can't remember Miriam? Miriam, Yeah, who called the police
and to grab her daughter and take her to school? Yeah,
you know, take it to the police station if she didn't
go to school. So it'd be interested to know what

(35:16):
the powers the police have if a parent gets involved
in the school, gets involved to you know, enforce attendance.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
One.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
We absolutely struggled to get our daughter off to school.
Bribery works for us. We started pocket money twenty dollars
a week, only gets it if she goes every day
unless she is genuinely sick. Also, no screens after seven pm,
gets here into bed earlier. Yeah, it's a take strategy,
take the phone off them. Yeah kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Twenty bucks a week sounds pretty good. Get avon well
high sweetheart.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
Our son's older and now I's forty seven. But he
his teacher rung and said he hadn't been to school
that day. And I went to and I said he
didn't go to school, haven't been for three days. My
husband was overseas at work, and I said, right, So
I wrung a friend who had a grainling business, and

(36:11):
I asked him if he'd take him out and show
him what he'd have to do laboring if he didn't
cut of school. So principal went along with that, and
within three days of hardly getting up the driveway at
the end of the day he said, Mama, never want
to be a laborer. And he's since done three America's

(36:33):
Cups and has his own business. So you just have
to give sometimes tough love. It was bloody hard, but
it worked. And in English he but he just didn't
like school.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Now you obviously that that worked for you. What and
what capacity did he get involved in the America's Cup?

Speaker 12 (36:55):
Well, he's a carbon fiber specialist. He did an apprenticeship.
I think that I said, you had to get an
apprenticeship where you can't leave school, which he was lucky
to do because he was right with his maths and everything.
Never looked back since a sixteen year old told the world.
But he knows he knew then that I wasn't having it.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, but does he thank you vonn Does he ever
talk about but thank god you got me to school, mum,
because now I've got a fantastic job and get paid
pretty well.

Speaker 12 (37:28):
We have a wonderful family and he has its own
business and he's amazing son. But he could have gone
the other way if we tuned, if Mahaby was away.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, Yvonne, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.
What a great story.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
I don't think this text makes sense. Maybe the police
could shoot them if they don't tune up to school.
I think they would be kunter. That would be counterproductive. Yeah,
we're not talking about the police coming.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
We need more babies in this country, not not Yes.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
That's not a solution.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Anyone suggested this Textas says guy speaking as a kid
that was bullied and forced to go to school regardless
move to a predominantly white high school. The first months
was how hiding and toilets during class just to not
feel like I didn't belong. No one wanted to get
to know me. Luckily, I was happy with my own company,
tool pretty sporty, and things change quickly. Not long after.

(38:21):
I always look back disappointed and my parents who forced
me to go regardless. I really tried to fit in,
but even when I did, I still didn't feel like
I did Well.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
That's what the teacher said that texted before that communication
with your kids, because you know, you want your kids
to go to school, but you don't want your kids
to go to school and get horribly bullied, so you
need to know that information. So I guess as a parent,
you need to have great if you can communication with
your kids, but also great communication with your schools. And
if there's just no way to solve the problem at

(38:50):
that particular school, then you've got a lot to move them, right.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, absolutely, And this text, guys, this discussion is out
of balance. Some of us absolutely love school and have
no trouble dealing with bullying. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, of course, of course, I mean you get yeah,
of course, of course some people absolutely love school and
have no problem with bulling. That is not out of balance.
We're talking about the problem part of the situation, as
you often end up doing in talk back. You'll talk
about things that you want to fix, yeap, not things
that don't need to be fixed.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Exactly one hundred percent. Hey, thank you to everybody who
phoned and text on that discussion. Really enjoyed that, and
coming up after two o'clock this will be an interesting
chat as well. A gruesome story out of Australia. A
woman attacked by a lion at an Australian zoo. It
appears she was an employee. But we want to talk
about zoos in general. How do you perceive zoos in

(39:46):
twenty twenty five. Many are controversial, but there is a
growing for a growing school of thought Rather about the
cruelty of some of the zoos or do you think
they're amazing and they contribute a lot to what we
know about animals and biology. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call New Sport
and weather coming up. Great to have your company as always.

(40:07):
You're listening about and Tyler, very good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Cheers talking with you all. Afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
It'd be very good afternoon, Chier, welcome back into the program.
Great to have your company as always. Matt is broadcasting
from the Dunedin studio today and we might be having
a few greenlins in the system, but he's in a
beautiful studio color in Pj's studio from the Hats and

(40:41):
was loving it. But we've just lost connection, I think,
so we'll just restart now.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I'm back, buddy, he's back. I just put my coffee
down on the off button. Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
No, I know that's right. I thought you were having
a mouthful of cheese roll there, but just.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Looking at the beautiful view in Dnean.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
If anyone boy cheese rolls, can I just say that,
don't get clevel with your cheese roll. Just a standard
there's a very standard way a cheese roll has to be.
And as I was saying before on the show, I
was dipping cheese rolls and seafood chowder just just two
days ago, and it was one of the great experience,
one of the cuisine experiences you'll ever have. And also

(41:17):
they do a great mutton pie down here in my
hometown in the chop Suey Patty.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
You took a lot of photos outside the bakery, the
mud and pie shop. Yeah, whole series.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Absolutely love it. Hey, before we go on and just
speaking about food. So before we left this show last
week because I had a media blackout because I like
to take a break. You know, on the show you
need to be across the issues. But it's quite nice
to take a break, right.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It is raw, donnin I think is what it's yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, And so just before we left, we had that
big discussion about the mushroom woman and the beef Wellington
and then I checked back in after being off news
for a week and find out they didn't. We were like,
they were going to be an out in forty five minutes,
but they still haven't had a verdict on the mushroom woman.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Still going How crazy is that? Because yeah, generally, and
that's what a lot of people thought. The gentleman we
chetted too over in Perth he said, Yep. The idea
is that they're going to be in and out pretty
fast once the judge sums up. But they are still deliberating.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yeah. Well, if you're the defense, you like that, don't you. Yeah.
The longer they deliberate, the more chance it seems that
you'll get away with it.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, if that news comes to hands, you will hear
it here first on News Talk ZB. We are all
looking forward to the jury coming out and delivering their
verdict on the mushroom cock. But in the meantime, let's
have a chat about zoos and sticking with Australia, a
woman in her fifties was rushed to hospital after sustaining
significant injuries from a line attack at darling Down Zoo.

(42:42):
This is a popular wildlife park near to Woomba. It's
understood the woman she was an employee of the zoo
and she lost her arm in the attack. They are
the reports coming from Australian media. That is horrific and
a very gruesome situation. But when it comes to a line, Matt,
I think you can kind of expect that if it
comes for you.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Yeah, that's right. So these were promoted as supervised lion encounters.
My thing with the lions, they had dangerous animals and
if they rip your arm off then that's just a
lion being a lion. You cannot blame the lion for
doing that. Can No, That's that's what they do. That's
that's human era. But zoos in general, because I know,

(43:23):
you know, more and more people are just absolutely hating zoos.
I've got friends that will just not go to a zoo.
Whereas I love a zoo. I think a well run zoo,
I'm thinking of Auckland Zoo. What are some of the
other great zoos in New Zealand. I think a zoo
like that is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I think Wellington zoo's probably up there.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
I mean education for kids, the wonder you see in
the eyes. They do a very good job of looking
after animals. Is this conservation taking place? You know, you're
keeping you're keeping animals, engaging animals alive. I think a
well run zoo is a fantastic thing. But what do
you think, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, do
you think that zoos are cruel and we should shut

(44:04):
just shut them down? Or do you think zoos are
awesome and a fantastic experience that all humans should appreciate.
There's a two poles you can have. You can have
an opinion in the middle of that as well.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, I mean I am torn when it comes to zoos,
and I think you're right. Auckland Zoo is a phenomenal
zoo and they do things very well there. But and
I'm not going to name them, but I've been to
some zoos in the past here in New Zealand, and
I think they've changed their ways. But I've seen animals
where I see, you know, they look sad and they
look like they are incredibly bored. And these are majestic animals,

(44:39):
and I look at that and I think I hate that.
I actually want to see you break out of that
cage and maybe take down a few people as well,
because that's what you were bred to do. But then, yeah, again,
you look at the Auckland Zoo and what they do
for animal conservation is a huge benefit. And I think

(44:59):
Auckland Zoo get it right with the African animals. They've got,
they've got the space there, they're entertained, they've got enough
there that they're not going insane. But some of these
zoos in places like I don't know, like dan Quite
for example.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
I think we'd all agree that keeping a wild animal
in a small cage is an evil thing to do,
but that's not what most modern zoos are. Like most
modern zoos, there's people that are experts on animal welfare
that thoroughly care about the animals and are AlwaysOn trying
to make their enclosures the best possible thing. And what
are you supposed to do if you want to see

(45:35):
a draft and you live in New Zealand unless there's
a zoo. Yeah, you know, not all of us can
get over to their natural habitats at a point. And
I'm a big fan of humans, and I think humans
you know, if you're as you're growing up as a kid,
what's one of the first things that kids get absolutely
obsessed with. It's all the animals. It's the drafts, it's
the elephants, it's the hippos, it's the zebras, it's the kangaroos,

(45:58):
all the interesting animals of the world. It just fills
there's something very very instinctual for children to just be
really focused on animals. And then they get onto dinosaurs well,
which is harder to visit. And we all see what
happens when you run a dinosaur zoo, judging by the
new Jurassic Park movie that's in the theaters at the moment.
But you know, you know what I'm saying, it's it's

(46:19):
a wonderful experience for children to go and see these animals.
And I think it's I think, you know, if it's
done well, then it's just a fantastic thing.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah. Well, then you know, you look at the late
great Steve Irwin, who did incredible things for animal conservation,
but he was running Australia zoo and.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Then what did the animals do to say thank you?
You know, what did the sting rays to do?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
What the rays do Did he even stick ray on
the zoo baby?

Speaker 12 (46:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:44):
No, maybe not. Hate zoos, says this text. No breeding
in captivity only engined and orphan animals only, says this text.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, yep, and a lot of people would agree with that. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
This is a good point. Zoos aren't cruel, Matt. You
go to africancy animals being killed and eating alive slowly.
I mean that's a really good point. It's not all
fun and games out on the savannah.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, Survival of the Fittest. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Are you a massive fan
of zoos or do you think they can be a
bit cruel? Love to hear from you. It is thirteen
past two.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons
call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Very good afternoon to you, sixteen past two. We're talking
about zoos. Are they cruel or are they awesome? Love
to hear your thoughts on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Some good texts coming through on nine to ninety two.
This one says guys take the zoo out of Wellington
and expense for both animals and humans where the zoo is.
I always thought Peter Jackson, a wetter can create a

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Traassic Park theme zoo from Lee.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
It's an interesting idea, but they have to be real animals.
You could have animatronic animals. I guess that's what you're
kind of suggesting that you could that Peter Jackson could
whip up a zoo where it appeared to be drafts
and hippopotami.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yep, I think that it works.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Hippopotamuses, hippot of us, hippopotami, hippotomi. I'll tell you what.
Hippopotami are a slightly boring animal to see at the
zoo because you just see the top of the head
of the hippopotamus often, although famously hippopotamus did swim out
of Auckland zoo really and flooding and ended up, you know,
running around Western Springs back in the day.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Is that right, I've never heard that story. Yeah, hippopotamus
live in Auckland. Eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Lorraine.
How are you?

Speaker 16 (48:37):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
How are you very good? What do you think about zoos.
I hate them and why.

Speaker 16 (48:46):
I just think it's cruel. I mean, I understand that
people want to see animals, but I think it's cruel
that they're in captivity for human and children's entertainments. And
like you said, the kids love dinosaurs as well. They
don't get to see them in real life, it doesn't
mean they can't still get some joy out.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Of learning about them.

Speaker 16 (49:07):
I think that that hippopotamus did the right thing, and
if he's prepared to swim out of a zoo, it
just goes to show none of them like it in there.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, a great escape? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Is there any kind of Is there any kind of
size of zoo that you would think was okay? And
are there any kind of animals that you think are
better suited to a zoo environment?

Speaker 16 (49:31):
Probably not, because if you opened all the doors like
that hippo, they would all run off. They'd all take off.
They don't like it there, don't want to stay there.
I mean a lot of them is, particularly lions and tigers.

Speaker 13 (49:44):
They're meant to be out in.

Speaker 16 (49:45):
The world, running free, and you know, I know that
there's problems in their natural habitat where they are killed
and poached, But does that mean we get to lock
them up, imprison them basically for their lives, just for
our entertainments.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
What do you think about the conservation of animals and
the role that zoos play and keeping these animals alive.

Speaker 16 (50:09):
Yeah, I mean that there are areas for it, like
the kiwied breeding kiwi and trying to keep species alive
and going. I think that that's fine. But if you're
just locking them up for people's entertainment, like seals, they're
not endangered, I don't think. And they're all trapped in

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a swimming pool at the zoo.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Yeah, it's pretty cool though watching them swim past. You
know that they look like they're having a lot of
fun in the in the pool that they have at
Auckland Zoo. Anyway, it seems like quite a spacious environment
for them.

Speaker 16 (50:43):
But I'd say if there was another flood and they
got to swim out like the hippo diad, they would Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
What do he said? But you could say that about
a dog, right, So if you know, you we have dogs,
and we you do them and then we lock them
in our homes. But dogs seem pretty pretty happy, don't
they living with humans?

Speaker 16 (51:04):
I think so most dogs, if you open the front door,
dogs will listen to you and come back. Some particularly husky,
they'll do a runner and they won't come back until
you catch them. Yeah, so I guess that there's the
rare breeds that do take off and run off and
roam and try and escape, But most dogs, I think

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would go home.

Speaker 17 (51:28):
Well.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
I was actually thinking about this the other day, laaring
what animals you can actually domesticate, and there aren't. There
aren't a lot of animals really that you can. You know,
you can't keep a possum in your house. You know,
you can try, but it gets crazy. You know, there's
that documentary Inflix about people that try and keep chimpanzees
and that when they get big there that's an absolute disaster.

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So dogs, and then the thing, there's that relationship we
have with dogs. Dogs love humans, humans love dogs, you know,
man's best friend kind of thing. There is a special
relationship there where they're very happy to be with humans.
You definitely can't have a tiger in your house.

Speaker 16 (52:04):
Yeah, I mean, when you get home from work, if
you leave your dog at home while you're at work,
or you go out for a few hours, when you
get home, he's really happy.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Yeah, if you lift a tiger when you got home.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
Yeah, if you get.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Home and the tiger would beppy because they would have
something to.

Speaker 16 (52:19):
Eat exactly preferably you, I would imagine.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
But what about the wonder that kids when they see
these animals, and that could lead to them understanding the
natural world and maybe doing more to help with the
natural world as they get older, getting to see these animals.
Can you see that argument at all?

Speaker 16 (52:41):
All right, No, I don't think that they have to
see them in person to learn about them. I mean,
a lot of kids are really upon things with dinosaurs
and how they lived and operated, and not one of
them has seen one in person.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
What about a wildlife? So many sorry, finishing, so.

Speaker 16 (53:01):
Many learning activities and availability to information these days, they
can learn it elsewhere.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Do you think that a zebra's life and a zoo, though,
might be better than a zebra's life out in the wild,
because a zebra's life out in the wild. As you
run around for a bit, you look pretty cool, you
you know, look like a predestrian costume for a while,
and then you get eaten and you die eaten by line.

Speaker 16 (53:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure how many how many zebras
do come to that demise? I mean, line numbers are
probably a lot less than gazelle's and zebras. And no,
I don't think that i'd rather if I was a zebra.
I would rather have a short, happy, free life than
a long, miserable, drawn out, paged life.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Okay, well, thank you so much for your call. We
appreciate that supplementary question. Why is it that we can't
domesticate zebras and ride them around horses?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I'd love to ride a zebra quite small horses?

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Is this something? Are they not horses? Actually? I should
look into the investigate and find out why we don't
have because it seems to me that it would be
pretty cool to be riding around on a zebra.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Just googling how much can a zebra carry? We'll come
back with that. It's a very shortly.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Second kiss question. Is it zebra or zebra? Zebra? I
think it's zebra in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I'm going to go zebra nine nine to if you
want to correct me. It's twenty three pasts two.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on used Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Twenty five pasts two, and we are talking about zoos.
Do you think they are awesome or do you think
the majority of them are cruel?

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. This Texas says that this
caller is bonkers talking about our last call that was
very anti zoos, saying that animals don't know they're in captivity.
I mean it's a good point. But the drafts at
Auckland Zoo, they don't go, we're in captivity. They go,
we're in this enclosure, We run round, this is our
environment and people feed us every day. Yeah, I mean

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it's pretty great. What does an animal primarily want? They
maybe they want some space to run around and do
their animal stuff, but they also primarily, in my opinion,
my hugely informed opinion, want something to eat.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
That's most of what they want to do is eat
something every day.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Eat and make love. I don't know if animals call
it make love, but that's a good point. And we've
done a deep dive into zebras.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
That's I asked the question, why aren't they why don't
we ride them around like horses? And so the key
criteria for domestication is capability to breed in captivity, non
picky eaters. That's important. Social hierarchy. A clear social structure
allows animals to assume leadership roles. That's important. Rapid growth.
They have to be able to grow really quickly and
calm disposition, right friendly nature. Zebras have none of this.

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They're very aggressive zebras, so there's no way to train them.
They have evasive reflexes, they have a strong ducking reflex,
and they're very complicated to restrain. They have no social hierarchy.
Unlike horses, zebras do not have a clear family structure
or social hierarchy, which is crucial for domestication survival instincts.

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They will do anything. They think of everything as a
predator and they will kick and attack anything, and they
have a terrible back structure. They're no good for writing.
They would have.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Thought zebras are a bunch of mad dogs. And we
also asked about the pronunciation of zebra in this Texas
says it's not zebra or zebra. It's called a bar
coded donkey from Steve, so we can go with that one.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
But this person said, I wrote a zebra or zebra,
I wrote a zonkie in Mexico. Oh, zebra donkey mixed
looked like a three thousand texts just came in and
pushed my text at the bottom. It looked like a
donkey with stripes.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Zonkie. Great name for it, Doreen. You went to the
zoo this morning.

Speaker 8 (56:57):
I went to Aukland zero this morning. It was packed,
lots and lots and lots and lots of happy people,
sunny days. Didn't see any depressed drafts of zebras. But
as a small child, we enter the zoo a couple
of times a year, and it was the old Aucklands.
Who I'm sixty six, and things were caged up. There
was an insane a couple of insane polar bears, other beers,

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a number of brown bears and other bears, and everybody
looked pretty bored and sad. And I love the way
it's made to look more like their home, you know,
and counting for their needs, their natures, things like that.
These days, the rhinoceroses were happy. They were eating lunch,
and everybody was happy the cause we're happy. And also
we went to the dinosaur enclosure. They've got a whole

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lot of dinosaurs, size built dinosaurs. As an exhibition there
at the moment, and you know, pretty unnerving when you're
standing behind this dinosaur and its eyeballing you up and
making funny noises. But yeah, brilliant. It's encapsulated the Jurassic age.
Husband and I learned something. The six year old and
four year old learned something. Everybody had fun, and you know,

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I think I think the anausor as entertained as we are,
they look at you as if to say, what the
heck are you doing? And we were lucky enough last
year to be allowed to be in the Flamingo's enclosure
with our two grandchildren standing there, and people were watching
us like they watched the flamingos and just standing there

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for ten to fifteen minutes, and they'd come around, walk
around us and do their Hong Kong thing. But amazing.
You know, the zoo has got all sorts of different
things that pulls out for different different groups and everybody
has a fun time. We've got a annual pass for
our kids, grandchildren and ourselves and would go all six, seven,
eight times a year.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Were you around when they had the tea party?

Speaker 8 (58:49):
Chimps, Yes, yeah, the chimps that the whole year they're
completely different zono. We knew no better, we knew so better.
But yeah, you know, we saw the kiwis. Today's several
kiwis walking across the little darkness. But we're not the kid.
We had one little tiny enclosure and you're all in
the court and the little key was in the corner going, oh,

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get out, get out. You know that's done differently. I
too feel that we'd have a lot more animals die
and die out, become extinct if we hadn't had zoos.
But my bug is circuses. I hate trying to make
animals human doing human things, dancing dogs or you know

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type rope walking, and with that, I don't go with
that's they're an animal. There are a dog of catter,
giraffe or whatever. Don't try and humanize them. And clothing
lions and tigers. There's a master beasts. These are the
you know, these are the alphas, the you know, they're
the top and nearly just take away.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Well, that's a very very good point because if you
go back to as I was saying with the tea
party chimps, that's what it was all about. So it's
a very very different era of zoos. And if people
don't know what they were. Every day the chimps would
come out and they'd sit around in human clothes at
the Auckland Zoo and have have tea and they'd have
knives and forks, and they have plates and and bowls.

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And the last tea party chimp, I believe, died in
twenty and thirteen. So there was a ripe old age
of chimps. But then there's also those chimps that you
see in zoos in Russia that smoke cigarettes. I'll be
backhanding a backhanding a darry and it's actually very cool.
I think some of that someone might be able to
correct another, but I think some of the tea party
chimps were smokers because a chimpanzee loves a cigarette.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Because they had a whole bunch of ads. Was it
the Lipton t ads in the UK? Where it was
the chimpanzees in the in the ads PG tips mate,
PG tips? That's right?

Speaker 12 (01:00:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Yeah? Do you know the piano's on my foot? You
how much a blurt? That one?

Speaker 11 (01:00:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
That's the one? Yeah, okay that And to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Dorian's point, it's very very different zoos from that. So
I think often when people have a problem with zoos.
They're describing zoos from the past, not current zoos. Yeah,
current zoos are very very different from from zoos from
the past.

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Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Thank you very much, Raylen, and we're talking about zoo's
on the back of quite a gruesome story in Australia.
It was a darling down zoo where it appears an
employee lost her arm after a lion attacked her, which
is an horrific story. But as you said earlier, Matt,
that is what lions do, you know, the wild beasts
and sometimes they'll take your arm off.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Well, you know, if everyone knows the story of Sigfried
and Roy their performance in Las Vegas where Roy got
attacked by their white tiger named Matacre. I think it
was called I think it was back in two thousand
and three. So you know, they performed with this giant
white tiger for the longest time and then one day
the tiger just went nah and ripped the tan German

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performer to pieces, and you know, he survived, but they
didn't continue on the attack called severe injuries. So he
was I think he had a stroke side of stage,
but they didn't that that lion didn't get put down.
It left led a whole life afterwards, because a tiger
is a tiger, and sigfeed and Roy. As much as
Siegfried didn't want Roy to be cut to pieces, Sigfried

(01:03:40):
was like, it's a tiger being a tiger. We messed
up because they didn't have a rehearsal and they didn't
and they changed up the performance a little bit. And
what you realize is that every single day meant to
Kor was thinking, I'm gonna maybe I'll eat this guy.
Maybe I won't. You know, you thought he was trained,
but he was a wild animal. He was going, yeah,
I'll lead him today, and he ripped him to pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Is the day to day yep? Yeah, absolutely, I.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Certainly certainly hope and I assume that that that lion
that was involved in that incident in Australia, isn't being
blamed for it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Yeah, And we also mentioned some zoos of the past,
and I was just looking up the North New Brighton
Zoo that many people will remember, just outside of christ Juchure,
New Brighton. So that had a crocodile, it had lions,
it had tigers, but it was closed in nineteen ninety
six after a bit of controversy from the public. They
said it was cruel to keep these lines and tigers

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in these small enclosures. And the alligator was in a
glass case as well. That was pretty tiny. But again,
back when that was operational, hugely popular zoo, and not
many people thought about the ramifications of is this crawl
to keep these lines in these small cages. But eventually
in nineteen ninety six things started to change and they realized, yeah,
maybe not the best place for a lion, so they

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relocated them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
How cool was a Runna Park neck in the day though?

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, that line enclosure where you drove in
with your old lader. Yeah, good times, Mike says.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Apparently there was an Auckland chimp in the ninety fifties
that would ask for ciggies and then drain a sig
in one puff. Yeah, that's a powerful powerful animals. The chimps,
But those tea paddy chimps they didn't sit around the
table like that. Like I was talking before. They've stopped
in nineteen sixty three, So you can't blame the Auckland Zoo.
You know, lots of things were different back in nineteen
sixty three.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah, times have changed, Pete, how are you this afternoon? Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:05:24):
Yeah, And the Mecnent tire they are more for zoos,
you know, all these brag or snail huggers, what are
you want to call them? You know, the will is
not a perfect place, but some people they can't afford
to go over seas, maybe go to a big zoo
where they might might be if you're lucky enough to
have their money to do that. But I think every
country's got zoos. You're not going to get rid of it.

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And today, like their previously, she pretty much seen it all.
You know, the enclosures that they improved a lot from
there were probably twenty thirty fifty years ago. What they are,
they're a lot better now.

Speaker 11 (01:05:56):
They made it.

Speaker 18 (01:05:57):
You know, the area is bigger for them, they get
well fed, they probably get better looked after, and they
do in the actual wildlife in the world, like they
really have to whit, don't they. They get a feed down.
I watched these things on YouTube and then the poor
lions and you're with if you went, so what they
go through to make it to five?

Speaker 11 (01:06:18):
Which is the cruelest.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting people say let the animals run free.
Often when they're running free is when they're running away
from being hacked to pieces for a predator as well.

Speaker 18 (01:06:30):
Yeah, Pete, Yeah, we got we got one here and
new Plymouth, which is going to see here it's free.

Speaker 12 (01:06:39):
It's good.

Speaker 18 (01:06:39):
It's good to get away from your house and for
them to grow up and monks. We got the new
plimmer who got goats and sheep and all sorts of stuff, boods.

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:06:48):
It's a good, good day out with the kids, you know.
And you're going to have those sort of places so
the young ones can see the sea animals live, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, Pete, what about the likes of SeaWorld that has
come under a lot of controversy and are they still operating.
If they are still operating, there's no longer orca in captivity.
Do you think you know where the zoos, most of
the zoos in the world are trending to the right direction,
that they're starting to realize animals like orca cannot be

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kept in a tiny little pool. Or do you think
there is still a place for having those wild animals
in play and zoos like that.

Speaker 18 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I think it's put of a hard one that one.
But end of the day, like Nape they used to
have that. I was the Mary the merry Land when
they had the ice swam for dolphins. That's going back
about thirty odd years ago. Now when we have that
was done probably about thirty years or they're ran about
the and I swam for dolphins. They get well looked up.
They had the seals there, and I don't think another enough. Okay,

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there was on a perfect place. They get well feed.
You know, it's I don't know, it's probably not probably
not right in some ways, but the animals are probably
a lot more stressful there. Then they say, going back
to about the wildlife, they listening for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, fair enough. This is the tricky part of the
argument for me, is I base it on the intelligence
of the animals. So Orcas are very intelligent. Dolphins are intelligent.
Gorillas are intelligent. There's a gorilla enclosure down at Irana
Park and by all accounts very popular. But where do
you draw the line. That's the difficult thing for me.
It's tigers have an element of intelligence. Are they smarter
than dogs? I don't know. You know, it starts to

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get a bit murd and where's the balance. At what
point do you say you're too intelligent to be in
that cage and you're dumb enough to.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Be in that cage. Yeah, And animals aren't the greatest
people in the world either. Have you seen that footage
that's come out recently of that orangutang Haf's a possum
across the zoo. That's the possum's up the up the
tree with it. Yeah, and it just hafs grabs the possum.
So if you're talking about animal safety, you know who
doesn't care about animal safety? Animals?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah, I mean that a raga thing video was amazing.
He winds up and just flings it across the enclosure.
It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
And what's amazing is and this is the resilience of
possums that possum just lands and runs off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
That's what the hell was that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
It's been throwing off a three story building, bussy. It's great,
it's great footage. Put yourselves in the animal's shoes. Would
you like to be caged and fed or roaming the
savannah fed and looking for looking for a bit of
random mating. Yeah, I don't know, and that I think
that's that's the question. I'm not sure. I mean, I
think you probably enjoy being on the savannah until you

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were being hacked to pieces by a predator. We're starving
to death, you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
We got full lines at the moment, but if you
can't get through, keep trying. It is seventeen to three
back very surely you're listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams
afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
They'd be good afternoon quarter to three oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. Do you agree with zoos or
do you find them a bit cruel? That is what
we're talking about right now, so many ticks coming through.
On nine two ninety two.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
This Texas says, hey, guys, how would you feel if
key we kept on display and glass display boxes and
broad daylights so people could appreciate them. After all, they
are just done birds. The thing with Kiwi's, there's lots
of fantastic displays, is the one in Queenstown. I forget
what that bird park is there. It's fantastic, but you
go in there. They've got you know, soundproof glass, multiple

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glaze glass. It's in fred lights so they can't see it.
So you just see kiwis running around and they've got
no idea that humans are watching, and it's absolutely fantastic.
They look like, I don't know, people running around with
their pants falling down. This an interesting thing about Kiwi's,
how their backsides hanging down. But I went to that

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and I hadn't seen a Kiwi in the wild before, obviously,
but it actually I actually got tingles up and down
my spine. I felt hugely patriotic looking at these Kiwis
and running around, and I think that makes me more
likely to be invested in their conservation, having actually seen them,
rather than just being told about them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Remember that story, and quite rightly New Zealand got outraged
over it. I believe it was in Chicago, was certainly
in the US Miami Zoo, Miami, I'm just looking at
it now, and they had a kiwi there and the
kiwi was in daylight and they allowed a petting situation
so the zoo members would come in and they'd be
able to pet this kiwi. And we absolutely got outraged

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by that because that's our national bird. And luckily they
shut down that particular exhibit and the kiwi in question
part or is now back in the dark. But you're
quite right, I mean, we take that pretty seriously when
it comes to our national bird, to make sure they've
been looked after. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Hang in a minute. I've hung out with a kiwi
in the daytime. I hang out with this kiwi called Sparky.
I had one leg.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
It's a great name.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
Sparky was Sparky was very very happy to be hanging
out in the in the daylight. Sparky the kiwi.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
How did it get along with one leg? As you say,
they're pretty gooberous at the best of times. Of two legs.
One leg should have called it hoppy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Sparky was sweet airs try.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I'm just look at them now. Oh yeah, the kids
love them.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
Yeah, there you go like, look, I'll post a picture
of that on my Instagram. Matt heath in Zen on
Instagram of me. I found this picture here of me
hanging out with Sparky. Sparky it was fine with being
out in the in the daylight. So I don't know
it's good enough for one leg at Sparky. Get them
all out in the daylight.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
So we're going look at them, Jimmy, mate, Hey, how
are you guys?

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
Good to hear? Hey, I'm hanging out with two kigwis
now on the radio.

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
Boys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yes you are, Jermy spot On. We've got both our legs.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
I'll tell you what I look. I mean, there's so
many things that could be right and could be wrong.
But my take on is I remember the movie Born Free,
and then that is exactly what they are. I see,
doesn't matter what they are, you know, lions, tigers, chim monkeys, gorillas.

(01:13:07):
They go back and forth, mate, and that's not natural.
It is not them smoking cigarettes, you know, And to me,
I just said, is cruel. I'd hate like I've got
my little animal, and by goodness, I'd hate for her
to be caged up twenty four seven. You know, our entertainment,

(01:13:32):
we go and watch them, you know, and I mean
think about it. Is it really what they want?

Speaker 19 (01:13:38):
They?

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
You know, they're pacing up and down.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
And what about, Jimmy, what about what about animals that
have are endangered? And that's the only way to keep
them going, and keep breeding, breeding of the animals going,
you know, keep keep keeping them exacting.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
Light, Matt, Matt, that is light in the wild. In
our culture, everything you risk is a risk, Maddy. And look,
no matter what happens, you know, these animals are not
designed to be put in the goddamn zoo, you know.
And look I went when I was young, and admittedly,

(01:14:15):
but I haven't been to a zoo probably forty odd years.
And you look at the doccos on teeth. Even Richard
Edinburgh says, they're not meant to be put in something
where they can't do their own natural things. And look,
I'm not being rude. This is the longst I've ever
talked on the phone actually to you guys. But look,

(01:14:38):
it's just it's just me, mate, and I think it's
cruel my personal opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
But Jimmy, you've got to meet the zoos now very different.
You brought up these smoking chimps. That was nineteen sixty three,
so it's a huge like zoos today. Can't can't be
how to account for the behavior of zoos in the past,
can they No?

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
But it's still Maddie. You imagine your little dog being
stuck twenty four seven. I mean, come on, mate, I
you know i'd treat minding his dog.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
Yeah. If my little dog Colin, he'll be listening at
home right now, and he's he'll be he's inside, although
he does have a little door to get outside. But
if you're listening, Colin, you're a good boy, Colin. What
a good boy, Colin. I'm soon Colin.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
He's got a great little cage at home. He's got
a whole house and a radio going. Colin loves it,
gets feed every day.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
Perfect. Thank you so much for you call, Jimmy. He
thinks zoos are terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
I think there's different levels of zoo. When I go
to the Aokland Zoo, I don't think the animals look miserable.
I see a capa borough, which is a fantastic animal.

Speaker 11 (01:15:38):
God.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I love a Kapa Borough even though one style my
sunglasses one day, but but they're they look.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Happy, Yeah, very much.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
I don't know about a polar beer being in New Zealand.
I don't know about a polar beer hanging out in
our summers. That doesn't that doesn't seem right to me.
I think there's there's definitely levels of it. I mean,
does a tarantula really care if it's in a in
a container? Although I'm not convinced Aalklands Zoo's got tarantula's
I've been to that. I've been to that that can
close quite a lot and I've never seen them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah, if you've never seen them, do they exist? Is
the number call? I got to take a quick break,
but more of your calls, very surely eight to three,
the issues that affect you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
And a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks, B News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
There be Steve how are you?

Speaker 15 (01:16:25):
Oh? Very good? Thanks Matt, Tyler. Now I've got to
come to the point your producers told me because you've
got news coming up now, you know, I've listened to
this today and what have you, and the I agree
with so much, especially the fact that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Zoos are so.

Speaker 15 (01:16:42):
Educational for children, they learn so much and so benefit
you run through my thoughts. Now we we have another
zoo in New Zealand and what have you? And I
think it would be so educational for the children. It's
called per maximum.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Right and.

Speaker 15 (01:17:05):
And coming straight to the point, I could go on
and on, but imagine if you had an open day
there to see all the animals. Wouldn't it be a
great deterrent for keeping young children out of there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Maybe? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean definitely if you I
don't know, yeah, what you walk through, lead through and
steer at them and their cells?

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Maybe yeah, I mean they get fit every day. But
you know they can't they you know, there's no maybe
going on.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
There's been a lot of anti zoo rhetoric in the
last hour. And look, I would say, like a properly
run modern zoo, you could describe it as a modern arc,
couldn't you. Yeah, you know, they care, They safeguard and
dangerous species. They offer kids, millions of kids, thousands of
kids in New Zealand. You know, the opportunity to it

(01:17:55):
to be wonder at animals and it's successful. They can't
go there. It's a first time experience of a wildlife
and I think it makes people empathetic both to animals
and to humans that that kind of experience. You know,
you see people caring for animals, and you know, I
think this probably makes people more likely to support conversation

(01:18:15):
conservation across the across the globe if they actually see
animals firsthand. So I think modern zoo is very different
from the old zoos. Yep, And personally I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
For him, nicely said, and you as a big kid,
when you saw that key we up close and little
old Sparky with the one leg, absolutely loved him, and
you just wanted to save every KeyWe you come across.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
Yeah. Absolutely. And when I saw the huge black tongue
on the giraffe at Auckland Zoo that day, actually that
terrified men.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, lucky girafts. All right, coming up after three o'clock,
we want to talk about getting married multiple times. Nol
Edmonds is doing that. That's coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Your new home are insateful and entertaining talk.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sebby.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Welcome back into the show. Great to have your company
as always on this Monday afternoon. I hope you're doing
well wherever you're listening in the country. Noel Edmunds, there's
a name many many people around the world know, incredibly
famous here in New Zealand and the UK and elsewhere.
Noel's House Party was a huge hit here in New Zealand. Maddie,

(01:19:21):
you're a big fan of that as a kid growing up.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Well, I was aware of it, Yeah, mister Bobby, I
had some time for that. There was the was the
Gunge situation, wasn't there? There was what was that?

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
That?

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
The there was the lyric game, the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Gunge Tank, That's right, the Gunge Tank.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
Was that that was a predecessor to Nickelodeon Gunging and
what now Gunging, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
And then he had the hidden cameras, the Gotchid moments.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
Yeah, yeah, there was.

Speaker 15 (01:19:47):
There was.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
There was a lot on that. There was a lot
on there. There was some kind of incident. I was
just trying to get my head around it where there
was some kind of terrible thing happened at one point
involving a crane. Remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Well, I just had a deep dive and I can't
remember that incident, but I do remember. Actually I don't remember.
I'm reading it here, so that's a lie. But Uri
Galla remember the old spoon man who used to say
he'd been yeah the.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Bend the spoons.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yeah, so on the on the incident caught on Noel's
house party. He had a hidden camera and he caught
Uri Gala bending the spoon with his hands off set
before he came on. So that was a big moment.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Okay, this wasn't on the Noel Edmunds house party. That
that that incident, the faithal incident and the give it
a World section that was on the Late Late Breakfast
Show with Noel Ah yes, no omens. Okay, so we
can't we can't tarnish the house party with that. Which
but anyway, we're not talking about that, are We're just
talking about let's let's go through the relationship situation with

(01:20:42):
Noel Edmonds because he now lives in New Zealand, doesn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
He does, and he's had a new reality TV show
that's hit the air waves about his new life in
New Zealand. But what we want to talk about is
Noel Edmunds is getting married to his third wife for
the fifth time, so he's.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Let's unpack this. So he had one wife yep, that
he married once, yes, and then another presumably divorced, then
another one that he married and then divorced, and then
this the third one he married, maried and then is
married three more times and then wants to marry her again.

Speaker 11 (01:21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Oh four times already, He's right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
So there was the original one, and there was three
more and he wants to go again.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yeah, one more time?

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
Yeah? So are they are they breaking up between each
and getting divorced or are they just reffirming their vows?

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Well, let me tell you what the man himself as
sid So this is a and.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
Then full discosure, Tyler. We have been trying to get
hold of Noel Edmins to see if he'll talk to us,
but we have failed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
To failed to so fair on messages in and I've
tried mister Blobby as well, but he's unavailable.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
So here's what Noel Edmonds told the Mirror. So he said,
regarding their fifth wedding to Liz Davies, We've been married
a lot, but we want a key we won. He
said there was a compelling reason behind another wedding, he said,
I quote, we own a chapel, so why wouldn't we.
I've had an idea. We have never been married in
New Zealand our home. I propose that we restore the
chapel on our farm and on our wedding anniversary, I

(01:22:05):
want to walk down the aisle of our own chapel
and have the wonderful Russell, the local minister, marry us again.
Deal or no deal? Question mark?

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
How long have they been together?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
They got married first in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 5 (01:22:17):
All right, and so since then there's been that. It's
four So every now and then they do it. Well, okay,
Well they just love getting they just love getting married.

Speaker 20 (01:22:25):
Is there is there?

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Is there?

Speaker 11 (01:22:27):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
Do you have to get a new present for them
every time? If you're a friend of Noel Emonds, do
you have to turn up with another toaster every few years?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Or what would you do if your if you're reproposed
to their wife five times and said, hey Matt, we're
having another wedding. Come along and remember a gift is mandatory?

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
Wow, you know it depends what the situation is. I mean,
you know, if the wine's flowing and there's a there's
a nice meal and there's a party return, then maybe
more likely than if it's a fifth different wife or
an eighth different wife. In this situation, eighth Mary, eight
weddings to different people, I'd be less likely to turn up.
And I think that I'd like to hear from this

(01:23:04):
because I've got a series on this. Right we're do
you you know by the time you Okay, maybe I
won't have a theory, but I'll ask a question. If
someone's married for the third time, is it going to
work out? Are they getting better at being married? Or
if someone's third marriage, it looks like Noel Edmonds in
my opinion, Noel Edmonds will have an opinion. I wasn't going,
but he's an outliner. Yeah, I think that people get

(01:23:26):
married three times, they're probably just terrible at weddings. They're
just terrible at being married. You know, they can't they
can't hold a marriage together. So when you're married for
the third time and you just I mean one marriage,
sure you make some mistakes, then you learn some lessons
and you get married again, and then by that one
you should have worked out how to be married.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
I just don't know too many people in the sweet
spot of two marriages that I genuinely know quite a
few people that have been married three times and for
whatever reason, it is third time the charm that really
used to work for them. That these are people a
little bit sort of later in life that they've found,
you know, their new partner and got married for the
third time and they said this is it and they've
stuck to their word. But the people that have been

(01:24:09):
married two times now, I don't know too many of
those people. It's kind of that sweet spot either number
you just get married once, where you get married three times,
or maybe there's people out there are being married more
than that. Love to hear from you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
What do you do as a third We'd love to
hear from you. One hundred and eighty ten eighty on
this issue. Have you been married three times and by
the third time, had you sorted out what it was
like to be married? Has it been successful going forward?
And what's a third wedding like? Can you have a
wedding if you've had a really spectacular, big wedding where
you've had your vowels in front of your family, vowels

(01:24:39):
in front of your family and everyone, and promise to
be together forever, and then you've lasted a wee while
and then you've broken up, then you've done it again
for the third time. Can you can you be trusted
when you when you're when you know asn't everyone just
sitting that winning going this isn't going to last?

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Yeah, exactly, I had one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
I do agree with you the logic of if you
if you're going for your third marriage, why do you
bother with the whole hullabaloo of it? Why don't you
just stay together and say, you know what, we're going
to be together in every way apart from another marriage,
Because I've done this twice didn't work out, and I
just don't want to go through the pilavora of it again.
I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. There's some great tics coming through?

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Yes, there's a few. Can we can we read those out?
Or are they We might have to talk to our
lawyers about that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah, we might have to sense in some of those.
But love to hear from you if you've been married
multiple times? I ad hundred eighty ten eighty was it
third time? The charm? What was it about? Having another
wedding that was so important to you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
Yeah, I guess what I was trying to say us
struggling to get my words out. But if you wherever
you go, that's where you are, right. So the problem
that a lot of people have with marriages is they
blame the other person for all the problems in the marriage,
and then they go to the next marriage and they're
just the same person, so the same problems happen, and
then they go it's this person's fault for they go
to another one. But wherever you go, you where, that's

(01:25:58):
where you are. Until you sort yourself out, then you're
always going to have problems, no matter who you were.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Yep, exactly. Oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call love to hear from you if you've
had multiple marriages, or you have been the husband or
wife of someone that's been in multiple marriages. It is
fourteen past three. You're listening to Matt and Tyler, Good afternoon,
very good afternoon, seventeen past three. So Noel Edmonds TV

(01:26:23):
superstar in the UK and tire back in his heyday.
He is getting married to his third wife for the
fifth time. He loves a wedding, loves reproposing. I think
that's the word to his third wife. But the question
we've asked is if you've got married multiple times or
got married three times? Is three the charm?

Speaker 17 (01:26:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
One hundred eighty ten eighties and number to call?

Speaker 20 (01:26:43):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
How look, this is just like you cynical people. This
is just a publicity start to try and keep Noel relevant,
and you guys are falling for it. No no, never,
no no no no no no, would never do it
in publicity. Absolutely, it doesn't sound like him at all,
and we would never fall for a publicity stunt. Absolutely, no.

(01:27:05):
It's pure love for the fifth time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's a love.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
It has nothing to do with the new reality show
and the potential shot and the hot tub. When he
asked her to marry.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
He just loved Yeah, one hundred eighty. There's plenty of
ticks coming through. We'll get to some of those shortly.
But don good afternoon.

Speaker 9 (01:27:24):
You can have to know this nothing about know all
all that, but good my observation, so that you know
the the breakup of the first marriage, it is really uh,
rip your apart, and then it's very easy to fall
in love quick again and there's the number two that's

(01:27:45):
not the right move, and then number three probably yeah
he settled out a bit better than that, but.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Just row with emotions.

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
And yeah, the rebound for number two, Yeah, that's an
interesting that's an interesting way way to look at it.
And I'd be I wonder what the stats are on that.
How quickly people who have you know, maybe they didn't
want the first marriage to end and it's ended on them,
how quickly they marry again, and how successful those second

(01:28:12):
marriages are, because I can certainly see that happening.

Speaker 20 (01:28:15):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
You know, you just want to get back to the
position in life you were. Then, so you meet someone
and you think, yeah, this is great, I'm in love.

Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
But really, you know, I've learned, I know well, I
know all of the mistakes. I'm just yearning for the
love and sorry, it doesn't seem to work.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
How many how many marriages have you had? Don two? Two?
And oh hang on a minute, so too? And did
the second? Was the second one not great? And that's
why you bring this up? Or is this just your exert?

Speaker 9 (01:28:44):
No, I'm a moment too, right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
So you defeated, you defeated the odds done and you
you made it work, Yeah I did.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah, so I waited quite I waited quite a while.

Speaker 9 (01:29:00):
I didn't sort of yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
Yeah, so you're you're your second one wasn't a rebound marriage, don.

Speaker 9 (01:29:07):
It wasn't a rebeuld. I still in love with the
old one?

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
Yeah right, okay, you're still in love with the old
one to this day.

Speaker 9 (01:29:14):
No, at that time?

Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what a while to get over it? Yeah?
And how long is the how long was the how
long was the first one? And how long was the
second long one? And how long was the gap between don,
if you don't mind.

Speaker 9 (01:29:26):
Me asking, twelve thirty years and this one's thirty six?

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
Oh oh right, okay, well this one seems like it's
a solid one. It seems like you've got to sort
it out. For the second one, Well.

Speaker 9 (01:29:40):
Took my time over it, and I had a few trials.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
If you don't mind me asking, Don, what what was
it in this in the first one that that meant
you guys went your separate ways?

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Alcohol?

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
You were you were her.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
Both, all right? Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:30:07):
And and so and but alcohol alcohol is only symptomatic.

Speaker 6 (01:30:11):
So yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (01:30:18):
Well it's a lot more to you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
I can a question quickly, Yeah, Yeah, complicated, but alcohol
hasn't been a situation in this current thirty six year
operation ye're running now?

Speaker 9 (01:30:30):
Nope, not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
Yeah, Oh, thank you so much for you call, Don,
Thanks for your insights. Yeah, fascinating. So Don reckons the
second one is Hang on a minute, what was this theory?
So he was married for the first time for twelve ys. Yeah,
that's right, and he thinks for a lot of other
people that the second one can be the rebound one,
that can be the problem one. So the third one's
the charm. Although that wasn't his experience. His experiences, he

(01:30:54):
played the field. He so does wild oats after the
first one and then and then settled down with the
second one, and that's been a roaring success.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
Yeah, good strategy from Don oh eight. One hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you've
been married multiple times? Love to hear from you? Was
third time the charm? Some good texts coming through here.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Yeah, malb just got hatched for the third time since
this text, and only one spice skill showed up. Doesn't
that say everything? Jade?

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
See, I think I think by the third one it's
hard to get people to turn up to the wedding. Yeah,
because hello, I'm not going through this. This is rabbit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
If you've been to too many times, yeah, if you've
been to someone's third wedding, what was the situation? Did
you have to bring a gift? Was it a smaller fear?
Love to hear from you. On eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
It is twenty two past three, back very surely. You're
listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Very good afternoon, twenty four past three, and we're talking
about getting married multiple times. If you've done that, why,
what was the situation? What happens? No, Edmonds, he is
getting married to his third wife for the fifth time.
He's reproposed so many times. He just loves a wedding.
But love to hear your stories. On eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Some good texts coming through. On nine two
ninety two. This one, kiddy, guys, My brother in law

(01:32:11):
got married for the third time last year and it
was his wife's first marriage, so it was a big
deal because of this not fear. She should have a
quiet one just because of his history.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
Yeah, I mean that's a good point. Yeah, Because I
was saying before, if a friend of mine's getting married
for the third time, I'm like, mate, I'm not gonna
make much an effort for that one because I've been
to two others and it doesn't seem like you've committed
to those ones. So I'm not going. But you know,
his new wife, she might just want to have all
the bells and whistles. I always wonder about the other
wives what they think about the new weddings, if they

(01:32:42):
compare the weddings. Yeah, you know, And is the size
of the wedding representative of the size of the love?

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Definitely, one hundred percent. That's what they do. And if
you win a bit beer bones for your first wedding
and then went all out for your third, the first wife,
quite rightly would be thinking, cough up, Lee, how are
you this afternoon?

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
I'm fine. First of all, I know nothing that Dan
can care less. But to get back to my three marriages.
The first one ended in divorce. And I always say,
listen to either side of a busted marriage and the
other side I'm out sounding like a monster. The pass

(01:33:25):
to say, I did my best to behave correctly terminating that.
Then I met the love of my life. And this
is where it's a bit unfair when you say if
three times felt there's too much or reflects on the
person we had. We were married for six years and

(01:33:47):
then I lost her to cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
I'm so sorry, lad.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Yeah, And then million a year later I met the
lady to whom I am now married. Equally happy. Both
were extremely happy marriages. Two of my two steps from
my second marriage, one of them was tied up with

(01:34:14):
university exams from the States and couldn't come, But my
brother came to my third marriage and stood alongside my
son and my future three step children and took part
in the ceremony. So yes, I am now extremely happy

(01:34:39):
having with my third marriage. Of course, I'm eighty six now,
so i'd out still be a fourth because my third
wife is sixteen years younger than I am.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
And so just so I get my head around this.
So your second marriage there were children, but they weren't
your children in the second marriage, Is that right? Did
I get that right?

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Exactly, But you've still got a great relationship with them, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
And of course when we were courting I h R
because I was living and working on the State of Islands.

Speaker 9 (01:35:20):
And when my.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
H H my fiance would get a letter or hang
up after a phone call and say that I was
coming out to the mainland. The boys would light up,
and he can take us rabbit shooting and take us
surfing up at go Orbey. And they began making all
sorts of plans, and until she put her foot down

(01:35:45):
and said, ow is my boyfriend not yours. Yeah, that's
the tone for our marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
I don't want to pry too much, but just quickly
the marriage the third time, was that hard for you
to do considering what what happened in the second marriage?

Speaker 6 (01:36:05):
No, no, I.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
I was a grieving but again I met someone to
whom to whom I was with whom I clicked straight away,
and her three children all get along extremely well with me.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
Lee, thank you very much for just before you go,
Lee quickly. What was the biggest wedding out of the
three The biggest, Yeah, you know like that, the most
component ceremony.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Oh, the first wedding was the biggest, and the second
two were again perhaps more in more modern times, they
were sort of right, okay, but yeah, we're attended with
pretty much the same number of a wedding guests and relatives.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
Well, thanks so much for you call Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Yeah, what a story. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call if you've been married
multiple times. Really keen to have a chat with you.
Headlines with ray Lean coming up.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
See there's always there's always problems for my theories, and
Lee's pointed that out. So it's you know, if your
if your second wife passes away tragically, which is said
to hear Lee's story, then you can't blame the person
for the third.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, they're really clear and then yeah, absolutely right,
bang on Hoppers. Headlines with ray Lean coming up.

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back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Yes, that is the Mister Blobby song from Nole's House
Party that brings back some beautiful memories. I just had
a deep dive into mister Blobby. He had a number
one Christmas song in nineteen ninety three. He was on
the top charts for one week.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
It brings back beautiful memories, punishing memories. Asn't the whole
point of mister Blobby that it was incredibly punishing and annoying. Yeah,
that was the gag.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
It was quite an unusual show, but I think I
was too young to kind of No.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
I'm not not questioning the whole of Nole's House Party.
I'm just saying that the particular joke of mister Blobby,
and I think there was an issue with our beloved
Hudson and Hall being slightly humiliated on Knowle's House Party
as well. So I think Keywi's have a slight problem
with Norwegman. I'll look into that one. Yeah, but yeah,
you go, mister Blobby. I don't think it was meant
to be good, mister Blobby. That's my point. I like

(01:39:57):
it's comedy that was funny in its punishment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Meant to be cringe.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
Yeah, well, I don't know it meant to be cringe.
I think it was more just meant to be a
parody of horrific child's television.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten, eighties. We are talking
about mister Blobby because we're talking about Noel Edmonds. He
is getting married to his third wife for the fifth time,
and that's what we're talking about. If you've been married
multiple times, love to hear from you on oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. Quite a few ticks coming through,
and a lot of Kiwis have been married three times.
This one here, I am my sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
You go mat. I am my husband's third wife, my second.
He arranged a surprise marriage to happen during a surprise
fiftieth birthday party that was nine years ago. We are
very happy with each other. So I am my husband's
third wife. But that's her second, all right, there you guys.
Seems seems like he's still a pretty romantic guy even
though it's the third, third wedding, Yeah, third marriage, surprise

(01:40:53):
fiftieth birthday party. Very hang in a minute, can you
do that? Can you just throw a surprise marriage? Can
you throw a surprise wedding? Doesn't the lady you want
to bloody organize everything'd.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Be pretty awkward if she turns up and see his hand.
On a minute, I don't want any part of us.
It's a hell of a gamble.

Speaker 5 (01:41:11):
It's like those proposals as stadiums in the States. There's
a compilation of like dudes getting down on their knees
and the and the woman just going no.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Yeah that ever had at c that is very cringe.
And how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 16 (01:41:27):
I'm great, Thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:41:28):
How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Very good? Now? How many times have you been married?

Speaker 7 (01:41:33):
Two and a half?

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Okay, tell do you do a half?

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
How do you do a half in?

Speaker 17 (01:41:39):
Because I'm not married to them?

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:41:43):
So two and a half first time?

Speaker 17 (01:41:46):
I was too young when we get married. But we
were married for twenty six years and I left second time?
Or fifteen years?

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
How long? But how long between those two? How long
between one and.

Speaker 12 (01:41:58):
Two and three?

Speaker 8 (01:42:01):
But three years?

Speaker 5 (01:42:03):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:42:04):
And I'm th one war was like three years as well.
But this one, I think because we're both older and
he's never been married, it's a different.

Speaker 6 (01:42:21):
Sort of thing.

Speaker 12 (01:42:22):
It's not.

Speaker 17 (01:42:24):
It's quite hard to explain. We don't have the same
worries I did when I was married. You know, we
do a rwin thing.

Speaker 20 (01:42:31):
But both of my marriages we told everyone afterwards.

Speaker 17 (01:42:38):
Because we didn't neither was neither of my husbands or
I wanted the big flashy wedding.

Speaker 8 (01:42:44):
So wel I elope twice.

Speaker 15 (01:42:47):
So.

Speaker 20 (01:42:49):
I think I should work for the big quite flashy wedding.
You have to get that from my next birthday.

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
So are you even though you're not married, you're as
committed to your current partner as you were the ones
you were married to.

Speaker 17 (01:43:03):
Yes, yes, yes, As I say, the first one was
definitely like, I was only twenty when we got married,
and then we had our first son within a year,
and it was for me. I hadn't even left home
before I got married, so yeah, and I had come

(01:43:27):
from New Zealand, from Scotland to New Zealand, so for
me it was a thing. And then I just suddenly
realized that I had grown up and I hadn't lived life,
if that makes any sense, you know, detriment to my
ex husband, It was me, I just grew up. The

(01:43:49):
second one wasn't my fault.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
It was his fault.

Speaker 17 (01:43:51):
He took off with someone thirty years younger, and I thought,
I'm not hanging around.

Speaker 20 (01:43:57):
So but this one, we're both mature and I think
I've learned.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
So if you went to your current partner, you know,
you know, I reckon. I would like to get married,
and I want to have a massive white wedding with
absolutely everything, with the reception, marquees everywhere, you know, tens
of thousands of dollars worth a bubbles. Do you think
he would go for it?

Speaker 12 (01:44:25):
I think he would be.

Speaker 7 (01:44:30):
I'm just thinking.

Speaker 20 (01:44:31):
But we are so so different, you know, you couldn't
get two more different people, like my own grandkids.

Speaker 17 (01:44:41):
He's very quite quiet, Grammy, He's not like you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
Now I've got to ask this question the second one,
the second husband that ran off with the person thirty
years his junior. Did that marriage last or did that
blow up in his face and they didn't get married?

Speaker 19 (01:45:01):
No?

Speaker 20 (01:45:03):
No it didn't. Yeah, it didn't last.

Speaker 17 (01:45:06):
But I think in many ways I heard you talk,
I'm someone talking about the love of their life.

Speaker 20 (01:45:13):
I think that marriage was so it was really hard
to go over it, and that I thought never again, Yeah, never,
never again.

Speaker 5 (01:45:26):
Do you have any do you have any contact with
this that that that gentleman?

Speaker 20 (01:45:32):
Hey, this is going to sound weird, and every once
his mother is my best friend. We traveled or receive together,
and people go, you're kidding me that he and I
are really good friends.

Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
That's good, But there must have been that must have
been a bit complex for a while when you were
still hurting after the the infidelity or whatever.

Speaker 20 (01:46:01):
No, because she backed me, she was, you know, like
I left.

Speaker 8 (01:46:05):
We lived in Auckland, and I left.

Speaker 20 (01:46:08):
I moved out of Auckland and my ex mother in
law lived up there, and she was still very very
supportive of me. They for me, that one was traumatic,
but I had the support of people like that that
you wouldn't think about. You know, people go, my god,

(01:46:31):
just had your ex mother in law to stay with
you with your boyfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
Well, you know, there's so many different ways to do things,
isn't here? Whatever works? Thank you so much for you call. Anne.
Appreciate it. Thanks for sharing that, and good luck getting
the eighty thousand dollars marriage across the line with your
two and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Exactly, Good luck, Anne. It is eighteen to four. Beg
very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Your home of afternoon talk man Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons
call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty you talk.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Said, be sixteen to four. We're talking about getting married
multiple times, plenty of time that's coming through.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
I remember having a great divorce party, says this text.
So did Noel Edmonds have four divorce parties? That would
be the only reason to remarry the same woman, Steve
divorce party. Yeah, I think, look we might be victim
of a publicity's done there, and look we're happy to
be victims of a publicities, don't. I think the fact
that Noel Evans has a new reality TV show out

(01:47:30):
might somehow be rated related to his wedding to the
same woman.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
You might be onto something. Would no do that? I mean,
for reference, it's called Noel Edmonds Key We adventures for
three parts here, put Around and at State. And he
did not pay us to say that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
Totally above board?

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Yeah, John, how are you?

Speaker 11 (01:47:48):
Yeah? John? Yeah, well thinks And.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
You're being married two times?

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
Is that right?

Speaker 11 (01:47:54):
Let's right? Yes, I have been married twice and my
now wife for three times.

Speaker 5 (01:48:02):
Oh wow, And so did you Are they all sort
of reaffirming your love marriages or did you break up
and get back together and get remarried?

Speaker 11 (01:48:11):
Okay? My story is my first wife. We known each
other nearly sixty years, married fifty six, and she lingered
with Luncenter for five years. They did a great job,
was done by hospice, and she died in her own bed,

(01:48:33):
which was her wish. And then I I was fine,
I was have you tell her? I did my greeting
and and got on with life. But sort of light
bulb went off and I thought one of my first

(01:48:53):
girlfriends still about So I finally got her phone number
to know she was still still with us, and I
ran here and said, do you ever remember John back
in the day, And she said, that's you, John and
so and we spoke for about an hour and she

(01:49:19):
had a cleaner there at the time, and the cleaner said,
you're right, Gene. She had sort of just exhausted, and
she said, yeah, I'm fine, but that was my first boyfriend.
And that was well now seventy years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
Oh wow, So that that was a successful move by you, John.

Speaker 11 (01:49:41):
You've got to say, well, the result of that was
we were married. Although she did say to me up
here on the North Shore, she visited, you know, I
could never get married a third time. And I said, well, okay,
to what if I asked you? She said, well, ask

(01:50:01):
me and the results we were married three years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Oh, John, what a beautiful story. I mean, that is,
you know, very very sad for his first wife. But
the you know, to find a high school sweetheart.

Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
Yeah, that's right, John's a romantic.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
I love that absolutely. John, Thank you very much for
giving us a Buzzkida Stephen, good evening there.

Speaker 19 (01:50:26):
Yeah, I seaven here. Now we've been married sixty one years.
It's good innings so and still going strong. But people
who have multiple marriages, I can only think of two words,
am I either brave or silly?

Speaker 14 (01:50:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:50:51):
The reason why I say it is because fats have
with all those brother in law's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Yeah, yes exactly, Stephen.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Course step wasn't quite sure what side of the column
he fitted on their brave, brave or silly? But clearly
you know a lot of people going for marriage number
three and third times the chart.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Well, the big question here, before you know we put
this topic to bed is when are you going to
drop the knee, Tyler? I mean when are you? When
are you gonna man up and ask your lovely partner
mate for her hand? When you when are you going
to go?

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
It's been a lot of time since you've bring this up, actually,
which probably says a lot about my situation. Should we
should we bring this up?

Speaker 18 (01:51:31):
When are we?

Speaker 19 (01:51:32):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Which July? Do you want to bring this up in
July next year?

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
And we'll see. Well, there's a lot of people starting
to wonder when are you actually gonna take the plunge?
I mean, how long have you been together? Long enough?
You've moved from christ Church to Aukland together. Just when
are you gonna do it? Buddy? A lot of people
are wondering.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
I'll tell you why. If you want to take a
guest nine two nine two, we'll do a sweep steaks
and and you can have one of Met's heads if
you get it right, We're going to take a break.
It is eleven minutes to four.

Speaker 5 (01:52:00):
Beg brute shortly go.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
everything in the two Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
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Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
It is eight to four. A few texts to wrap
up this conversation. A fellow I know got married for
the third time at his property. He lied to everyone
to get them to come around, then told them it
was a surprise winning Most people said, baga, that we.

Speaker 8 (01:52:30):
See.

Speaker 5 (01:52:30):
I think people are suspicious of the third wedding. And look,
there's a lot of reasons why you might have it,
and a lot of justified reasons that people have rung
it and said. But I think especially there's certain people,
there's certain philandering, unfaithful friends of mine that I'm definitely
not turning up to the fourth wedding, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
You know who you are.

Speaker 5 (01:52:49):
No, I'll be there if there's wine and song, if.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
There's a return on investment on your part.

Speaker 9 (01:52:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Absolutely. This one here says, get guys, I had my
third marriage two years ago. We have been together for
twenty five years. First one I was twenty years old,
far too young. Second one was abuse of the third one,
we'll last have to say the third one was the
best of all three.

Speaker 5 (01:53:10):
Yeah, well, I mean the abuse of marriages and the
marriages where someone tragically parts pass away don't count in
the obviously, don't count in your and your your tally
do they No, because because they're obviously very legitimate ends
of a marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Yeah, if your partner cheats on you, you know exactly.
And this one here, separating from my first wife, now
we have a difference of opinion. She believes she does everything.
I believe. The psychiatrist she sacked because she didn't agree
with the diagnosis persa. Anyone came for a wedding and annulment.
So I can move straight to the lucky third from Carlos.

(01:53:44):
That sounds messic, garloss, So good luck with that. I
don't know if you're selling yourself, Carlos, all Right, thank
you very much for all your phone calls and texts
on that. Really enjoyed that discussion.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
Yeah, and thank you so much for your great New
Zealands for listening to the show today. And look, thanks
for all your calls and texts, not just on that
subject but on all the subjects today. We had a
great time chatting. I hope you did too. Them At
and Tyler. Afternoon's podcast will be in about an hour
or so. So if you missed our chats on getting
your bloody kids to school when they don't want to
go or zoos are they amazing or evil? Then follow

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our podcast review get Them Tyler? Why am I playing
this song?

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
That is due to start in about ten seconds, but.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
Because I want to talk about it right now? Why
is it starting in ten seconds?

Speaker 13 (01:54:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
It is county five four?

Speaker 5 (01:54:32):
Okay? Why am I playing the song right now?

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
A bit of the Beatles? I am the Warres. Great
chat about zoos. I think we were talking about seals
rather than walrises. But what a great choice well done
you have.

Speaker 5 (01:54:47):
Now you can get a Warris in a zoo, can't you?

Speaker 20 (01:54:49):
You can?

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Beautiful animal zoo's good or bad?

Speaker 5 (01:54:51):
Listen to our podcast for right now. Thanks for listening everyone,
See you tomorrow AVO. Until then, give the taste to
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