Full Show Podcast: 07 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell you got New Zealander and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Afternoons. Full Show podcast number eighty two, eighty two
eighty two for the seventh of March. Great show today,
some fantastic road rage stories and a lot of you know,
a lot of love in New Zealand, a lot of
disappointment with in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1 (01:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Be good Afternoon to you welcome into Friday. Hope you're
having a fantastic afternoon. We certainly aren't. Get a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Get a tyler, get everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
And you're looking very good. I've got to say, man,
looking very smooth. You've added quite the trump.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, that's right. I went to visit my mate Rodney Cheeseman.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Rodney Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think is it true that Rodney Wayne's original name
was Rodney Cheeseman.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's a good fact. I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Anyway, I went to see Rodney for a haircut. And
I'll tell you what this is actually a question. It's
not a question we want to really go to. It's
not going to we don't do three hours on this.
But so I've just had like a growth cut out
of my head by a dermatologists, right, yes, just nipped
out of my head. And and so I've got a
disgusting scab in there. Supposed to tell you your head
dressed before you they start cutting hair. About that one,

(02:14):
because what I say, it was Rodney cheese Man, Rodney
Cheeseman that was cut of my hair. It was actually
just out of Rodney Wayne. So it was a lovely
lady cutting on one.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Of his staffs.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Was it.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, you want a starter, Rodney. Yeah, and one of
the good people that Rodney Wayne Saint looks and there's
a bit of a yelp when they saw the horrible,
horrible growth on my head.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
So what was going through your mind? So you walk
up and said, I've got this hole in my head
and this horrible growth. Do I say anything or just
let it fly? And then you've got the line ready
to go as soon as she screams and sees what
the hell is that?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah? No, actually, all the way there said I must
remember to mention this horrible thing that's growing in my
hairline so as to not you know, because you might go,
I don't want to. I don't want to touch that,
you know, I need to put on the gloves or something.
But anyway, they did a great job. Very happy with
my fate. So I think I'm looking God, I'm looking good.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
It's a little bit lopsided, though. Did she stay away
from the side where there's a big hole in a
scale on the side of your head?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yes, Cheeseman is correct. It was Rodney Cheeseman.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Why would you change your name? I mean, look, I
go to Rodney Wayne. So it's obviously working, but I
like to go to a salon rather than a Barbara.
I don't know what's wrong with them.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I can see why he changed his name. I mean,
if you go to Rodney Cheeseman to go get your
hair done Rodney Wayne, that sounds fougie.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I go to Rodney Cheese. I'll go to Cheeseman over Wayne.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Right, it's good Skifield. I don't know about Heydrew. Right
on to today's show after three o'clock because it is Friday.
We've got New Zealander of the Week, which is always
a mess of and man we've got a winner today.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, huge, huge New Zealand of the Week this week.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Topical tunes as well, where Met and I each peck
of song related to a theme of the week and
first to three votes via phone takes it out. But
we also want to have a chat about tribute acts.
Are they worth the money? And I say this because
we heard Mike Hoskin this morning and he was talking
to his wife Kate and Tim Wilson, but he absolutely
laid into tribute acts.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I've got a bit of time for tribute as
it's hard to pull off a good one. What's the
famous beyond again the aber one. They're very good, very good.
And there's a fantastic Pink Floyd one that people might
that regularly tour in New Zealand. Yeah, that's that, the
Pink Floyd Experience. Maybe they're called, yes, it could be wrong, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
The New Zealand based Oloyd experience.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think they are.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I saw seasons of Cornell a sound garden and
Chris Cornell a band at the Whisky of Go Go
On Sunset and Los Angeles about a year and a
half ago. Very good, very good, very good.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mentioned earlier in the show that I saw a
Fleetwood Mac tribute band and they were okay. But also
I only paid fifteen bucks to see that.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
You've had a lot more to see the original Fleetwood Mac.
Hard to get those harmonies right. The Fleetwood Mac harmonies
are so specific that even when Neil Finn was replacing
Lindsey Buckingham wasn't quite perfect. Because you know those harmonies
so well, you can play the music, go for it,
I mean, Lindsay Buckingham, great Taris's had to learn those riffs.
But you can play the music. But very hard to

(05:12):
get those harmonies just right in Fleetwood, Mac But yeah,
you know, I I don't have a problem with them.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's going to be a good chat after three o'clock.
After two and they're bit's sad. But anyway to kid
after two o'clock. Road rage. This is on the back
of the story of an Auckland driver almost rammed off
the road and what was described as a terrifying incident.
But the question we want to put to the audiences.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Are people angrier on the roads recently? I've seen two
road rage in road rage incidents in the last two days,
two of them. I get the feeling that tensions are
rising on the roads and people are on a here
trigger to explode. Yeah, you see this video here, that's
an example of it. But I know, are you experiencing

(05:51):
more road rage out there? Do you think people are angrier?
I don't know. In my experience, my sample of one,
I'm seeing more of it.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. That is after
two o'clock. Because right now, let's have a chat about
your New Zealand. This is on the back of course
of Greg Furan resigning. The news came out yesterday. He
is going to see out his term. Unlike Adrian Oi,
he will finish up in October and then they'll find
a new CEO.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's the respectable way to do it. It's not just
pack a sad and then refuse to turn up to
an event you're supposed to be hosting the next time.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Don't just potentially leave the country and go to run.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
About Greg four. And he's doing it in a respective,
respectful manner.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, but no doubt about it. He has had some
monumental challenges since taking on that role and a lot
of people would say it was a bit of a
step down for Greek four and going from the likes
of Walmart to in New Zealand. Arguably he did that
at a patriotic duty that he wanted to do something
good for our national airline. He had a lot of
experience there and then boom COVID had and he was.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Just being CEO of in New Zealand. The coolest CEO
job in New Zealand used to be I mean, Michael
Boggs CEO of n ZEN.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Musical guy.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's a good guy, stool job. Yeah, but as being
is that the is that the marquee CEO job in
New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Rob Fife was a very cool dude though he was
a silver Fox, and arguably Greg four and silver fox.
Luxton not so much of a silver Fox, well, no one.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think you might be ginger under it if he
let it grow out.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, it would be nice to know actually what is
here color is But with all those challenges he had
to face, no doubt about it. So how long has
he been there for. We're twenty twenty five now. He
took on that position just before COVID, so closing in
on five years six years.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Not easy when the government shuts down the nation. Yeah,
not easy to be a bridge to other countries where
no one is allowed it ninety.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
But the question is how do you feel about in
New Zealand?

Speaker 6 (07:39):
Now?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Do you stool back that we have in the past
been incredibly proud of the New Zealand. It has been
seen as a premium airline around the world, won multiple awards.
I don't think they've won an award for some time,
but clearly they had let's call them some speed bumps.
They upset some customers in terms of refunds and some
of those international flights and the delays. Jetstar once a

(08:04):
laughing stock of the airline community. They've been doing pretty
well of late.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, and of course the enemy Quantus is increasing their
roots and well in New Zealand is not so. But look,
I'm going to say this, and this is what I
want to hear. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I
always fly in New Zealand. I don't know why. Am
I just a dumb patriot? I don't even go anywhere
else to look for flights? Is that silly? Is there
anyone else like me that's just locked into in New Zealand.

(08:29):
I'm talking domestically and internationally. I always fly in New Zealand.
I feel like there's something wrong. I mean, I've got airpoints,
skin in the game, yeah, you know, and you know,
the Coral Lounge is great, all that kind of stuff.
But as anyone that's loyalty in New Zealand anymore. Because
my sister flew in New Zealand to New Zealand, you know,
from London through Los Angeles recently, and she said in

(08:51):
New Zealand this is what she said. She says, in
New Zealand blows traitorum my little sister Imogen, and she
had always found it before and she said she was
looking forward to it. So I haven't got anything to
compare it too, because I'm only flying in New Zealand
and it's really dropped on in New Zealand Or is
it just the lack of planes is the problem and

(09:14):
thus the prices?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten. And now I've got
to say, if I fly domestically, and I get it's
a smaller market, we don't have as much competition, but
I will always go in New Zealand over Jetstar. Internationally,
I'll try and find a better deal now if Jetstar
or Quantus or Emirates. Emirates is a lovely airline. If
I can get on Emirates, Yes, Singapore Airline, beautiful airline.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I've been writing for Cathay Pacific's in Flight magazine lately.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Again they are premium products. I don't know if your
New Zealand is up there anymore. Yeah, but keen to
hear from you. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is an umble to call. Nine two nine two is
the text number. It is a quarter past one.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
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Speaker 7 (10:04):
There'd be.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Good afternoon. It is eighteen as one. Just before we
go back to the New Zealand discussion. There's been a
lot of ticks about do you still back in New Zealand,
but there's been a text that's coming.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, that's right, I said, I went to Rodney Wayne
and gave someone to fright with a horrible you know
thing that I've had cut off my head anyway, So
it's not going to the details of that, but I said,
Rodney Wayne used to be Rodney Cheeseman, but I'm wrong here.
Rodney Wayne started as a partnership between Rodney Cheeseman and
Wayne carr h in a minute, Hang on a minute.

(10:37):
Wayne soon exit of the business, but the name was
kept the same.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Have I have we fallen to a Have I?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Have I been?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Have I we might have been? Might have been punked there?
Or do some research background anyway made it's a nice
here cut and would you pay for it? Just out
of interest?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
One hundred and nine dollars?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
What from men's here cut? One hundred and nine bucks.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, but I'd had to get some styling wax for
it as well. Upsell, Yeah, upsell. The pressure is applied
when you get to the counter where someone goes, do
you want to get these three products that were mentioned,
and you think that when they're putting on your here,
they're just like the generosity.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
That's just part of the experience.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Look, you like your hair, well you can buy the
stuff and yeah, smells good. So I think I paid,
might have paid forty six dollars for some kind of
put them there.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, that's good. Right back to in New Zealand. Do
you still back in New Zealand? There's our national airline. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. There's some good ticks that
have come through. On nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I got puked on on a Jetstar flight and the
staff didn't care. So I'm never going back there again.
Well that seems fair enough. The stuff didn't care that
that happened to you. That's not good service. Yeah, how
do you.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Get puked on and the staff don't what say, you're
on your own, sorry, you can clean yourself up. I
just can't understand that. Uh this one, I'm sorry you go.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I was going to say this this Texas is in
New Zealand, pilots are awesome. Well you know my feelings
about Captain Scott Buttery, the greatest ATR pilot in New Zealand,
rams it in like a tent pig. He's a good
kid and across one h you want him on the
stick and across one great pilot. Ray, how are you
this afternoon?

Speaker 8 (12:10):
Gooday mate? Hey, look, I'm not an extensive business traveler,
but I've clocked up a whole lot of miles visiting
kids in Germany and in Ireland, so I've done a bit.
I've always backed in New Zealand because I'm a Kiwi
for foreign That guy is no idiot. I mean, you

(12:32):
don't run Walmart if you are. So if there is
something wrong with the New Zealand, my guess is that
it won't be Fourn's fault. Now, in terms of loyalty,
I've had a couple of bad experiences with their New Zealand.
Just recently, I was teeing off in the Gold Coast

(12:54):
I think it was, and I got a text to
say my flight home the next day was canceled and
it took me twenty four hours of flying via Melbourne
and christ Church to get home then about and then
about two weeks after that, I was taking my head
Markapoona up to Ireland to visit my daughter and her family,

(13:17):
and I was going via JFK and the week before
I received an email from A New Zealand saying we've canceled.
We've canceled the JFK flight. Bad luck and so you
know it's a real scramble and a lot of anxiety.
But I do support Air New Zealand. The product is

(13:43):
suffering because they're new planes that are coming in, the
new Dreamliners. They landing them, taking the engines off and
using the other ones. So I just think it's COVID
as the vibe, it's the trans engines. And so I'm
going to remain loyal to a New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, when you say that that sort of capacity problem,
it could be so as a miscalculation to you know,
permanently retire the seven seven seven two hundred rs. And
you know, they thought that they were going to come
out with less capacity, and they've had problems with supplies
the planes and the engines and stuff. But you know,
especially according to our man here, he that was a miscalculation.

(14:29):
So do you blame an airline for making a miscalculation
in the COVID times?

Speaker 8 (14:36):
Well, look, yeah, look I did get a bit dark
with them, but in the end, I'm a Kiwi and
in the end I'll be playing in New Zealand where
I can.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, when they gave you the ray, when they cancel
canceled your flight? And so was that the there was
that the Auckland to JFK flight. Yes, well epic flight.
That's that. Seems we've had a few troubles. So what
do they do they take on board the you know,
rebooking and making sure you can get there. Do they
take some responsibility of that or is it just you've

(15:06):
been canceled. I've never had a major international flight and
so I'm just asking the question, did they take that
or do you have to sort of reinvent the wheel
to get over there?

Speaker 7 (15:15):
I learned from the.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Maroote Store flight they I was one of where I
was one of about fifteen or twenty in our group,
and most of them were rebooked. I had to I
spent about an hour and a half during prize giving
trying to find out what was going on, and then

(15:37):
and so then I found out if I had been rebooked.
But I learned from that. So as soon as I
saw the email come in about JFK, I ran reservations
and it hadn't got through to REZ, but I said
to them, I don't care. Pencil me in please on
a Chicago flight which was leaving two days earlier.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
So you know, look, it can get a bit rough
in there, and people make lots of plans on their
international trips. Yeah, but I do see that it's not
necessarily their fault. Yes, I hear what you say about
the seven the trouble sevens.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
What what can I say? You know, when you get
on a plane, you just take your chances and you
get off at the other end.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
But so you say, Ray, you know, maybe you know
they've had their problems, You've got the problems with their engines,
they've got the problems with the fleet, et cetera, and
their capacity. But is that your problem? That's the question.
Really when there's other airlines like that, like Quantus for example,
or you know in Quantus. You know, I've never really
had a great experience on Quantus, but Quantus and and

(16:44):
you know, Singapore, all these other airlines or imminates that
don't have these problems, so as in New Zealander, you
still stay loyal because it's the New Zealand.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
Well, can I say my last trip up to Ireland,
I went business class with Emirates, so that I came
back last Sunday, right and by crikey, that was a
that was a brilliant trip. Yeah, I mean, it really
was an excellent trip. The crew are all over you
trying to help. It was a stunning, stunning trip and

(17:17):
I appreciated the excellence. And you know, an hour and
a half turnaround and do buy both ways, So I
mean that and that takes stress out. But I will
still go back to New Zealand right there you go.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
But Emorates is a beautiful experience. But just to raise point,
and we all accept some things go wrong and there
may be a flight canceled, but it is up to
in New Zealand in that case to make it right,
even if there's a little bit of disruption and you
might be a day delay or indeed you go to Chicago.
But the fact that they don't tell people that these
things are happening, that is sloppy. There's no excuse for that.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, well this person said I want to be proud
of you in New Zealand on nine two ninety two,
and I want to fly in New Zealand, but they're
making it very hard for me. So you know, we
may tend towards it, but if it gets too hard,
then you're going to take the bit of deal, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, one hundred and eighty ten EIGHTYZ number to call
twenty six past one.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Digging into the issues that affect you the mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
So, no, the airline is not in great shape. It
is at best okay, And no, this doesn't look like
a job completed in any way, shape or for It
looked like a fairly dull old a fair didn't it.
A handful of people sitting on cheek chairs in a room,
and Phil looked like, jeez, I got a three afternoon
I might go along and ask it. I had that
vibe about it, didn't It really didn't need to be
the career ending mess that it turned out to be.

(18:34):
So no terriffts at all on anything. For Mexico. Canada
is still in the gun. The agriculture has been moved on.
Maybe maybe not, but yesterday we got the cart. Who
the hell knows what's going on? Back Monday from six am,
the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Maybe's Real Estate News Talk said.

Speaker 11 (18:50):
Be.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Twenty eight past one neck You've just flowing in New Zealand.

Speaker 12 (18:57):
Yes, yes, I wouldn't sue. The Warriors were in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Created check.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Oh wow, how was How was the mood on the
flight home?

Speaker 12 (19:07):
It was yes, yeah, it was yet quite Yeah it was.
It was quiet, but you know, it was enjoyable.

Speaker 13 (19:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
The thing is when you go over there, because because
I had a lot of friends over there and people going,
oh your trips around, No, your trip's not run. You know,
the worries when the Warriors lose. You went to Las Vegas.
You still had a good time, right, it.

Speaker 12 (19:24):
Was the atmosphere. I'll do it again, but I wouldn't
go wrong. But that was I'll tell you it was inculum.
It was one of the best I've ever been to stadium.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible, wasn't it?

Speaker 14 (19:38):
So?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
How many how many days were you in Las Vegas?

Speaker 12 (19:42):
I was there for six days?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, any three days in Vegas?

Speaker 12 (19:50):
Yeah, exactly exactly. But I threw over United and then
on the way backwards in New Zealand, through said Frank system.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
How did it compare.

Speaker 12 (20:03):
Exactly? That's what I was going to say, United Man.
I'll tell you the play between the two plays. You know,
I thought there was there was no difference, you know,
I I sort of class our service and everything else
just between the two. It was really part because when
I got off to the United flight, I said that
was one of the best parts. To my wife, I said,

(20:25):
that's one of my best fights ever. You know, we're
trying to uh pay to do the commun last last year.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Did you do the whole thing or part of it?

Speaker 12 (20:37):
The last two hundred maybe kilometers?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
My wife, I want to do that.

Speaker 12 (20:41):
Yeah, that was We're going to do the Turkey one
for my sixtieth June.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
So it is the command basically like a flash pub crawl.
You just walked from from Nice.

Speaker 15 (20:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (20:55):
And it was a bit of a chalance because I'm
alcohol free for three years never so you know, I
go to Vegas was a talent.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right, yeah, yeah and so and so you flew back
on New Zealand. You didn't think there was any difference
in the planes? What about what about the service?

Speaker 12 (21:18):
The service I'd give the service to any Zeerom olive three. Yeah,
the ladies, the ladies or the workers, the tenants were
were we're older, if you don't mind me saying what
they have united, but they really were were approachable. Yeah

(21:41):
they don't. They doing a good job. I love their service.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
So you know.

Speaker 12 (21:47):
Sixty forty in New zero.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Sixty Yeah, were you were you kettle class or were
you premium.

Speaker 12 (21:54):
Of the Yeah, premium one of those we can lay
next to each other with your wife and it's.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Got the it's like Bakount lovely options.

Speaker 12 (22:04):
Yeah, but for the two hundred and fifty gold you
pay on top of them and your pluck.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
All right, so stature, so you're loyalty in New Zealand.

Speaker 12 (22:16):
It's I'm opinion in his Zerom. And I listened to
just quickly your man's kid enough to leave to them
about the conversation. My kid was mister before last week,
you know. And I listened to their conversation. I thought
that before him, it's done a really good you know
our steps, you know, And and and tried his hardest,

(22:38):
you know, he was always he was always approachable, always
you know, you to talk to him. But the interview
was like a rundown on him. You know, I thought,
you know this is because he sounds like a nicely
yeah and.

Speaker 16 (22:55):
Didn't do this.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
So he's only had some challenges against him. Neck you
got on you and yeah. I think there was a
bit of commentary on Greg forum versus Adrian or Adrian
or went for you know, ran for cover. A lot
of the time were Greg say what yeah, will about
his tenure at in New Zealand he did front double Law.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, absolutely, yes.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number? Call
it is twenty seventy two.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Are you still loyal to? In New Zealand's despite the
troubles one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3 (24:43):
Thank you very much Raillan, and we're talking about here
in New Zealand. Do you still rate it as our
national airline? On the back of Greg Forum resigning and
has he done a good job during his tenure?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
God an email here, Hi, Matt and Tyler always listen
in when I can from Bali after leaving New Zealand
last year. I have been an elite member with in
New Zealand for over a decade and have three banked
years left. I won't fly with them internationally and its
it's the direct route to Auckland from BA. There are
other airlines that proled much better value for money and
for comparable, if not better prices. Used to fly domestically

(25:15):
at least forty times a year with their New Zealand
The snacks are a joke and it doesn't compare with
other airlines operating in Asia and Europe. Not a fan
of US carriers. Keep it up, guys, you had a
great vibe to Kiwi days. Thank you from Bali. That's
from Chris, thank you for your email. I'll tell you
what you know. If you think domestic flight in New
Zealand is a problem, flying domestically in the United States,

(25:37):
those airlines, it's absolutely horrific. I mean you've seen you
might have seen that South Back episode about that mode
of transport that was yeah, which better and were terrible
things happened to you while you're rolling along the ground.
But it's horrible just getting on the plane the fight
to get your bags into the overhead lockers. Everyone's trying

(25:59):
to ram something in like it's meet. The end of
Meet the parents is their domestic airlines are horrible.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Some of those aircraft as well just timpots, are they?
They are old airs and kind of falling apart. Had
a flight from LA to Seattle and man, that was
a terrible aircraft. But our one hundred eighties and eighty
is the number called Tom. How are you?

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah, not too bad?

Speaker 17 (26:23):
Thanks, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Oh, thanks for giving us a buzz here.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
A family mender has had a problem recently.

Speaker 17 (26:29):
Yeah, my son and his girlfriend were on a return
trip from here back to the States because that's where
they work, and their trials started on the ground here
in Dunedin. Because the girlfriend is a very very frequent
flyer in the States and she's has access to her
a number of different benefits, one of which was that

(26:51):
she's not sort of subjected to the baggage limits, you know,
and the people on the ground here, first of all,
would refuse to acknowledge those benefits for her, and they
gave her a lot of uphill, but in the end
they relented and so she got her baggagehn which that
was the first bad impression that she got for in

(27:13):
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
That was that Mammona Airport.

Speaker 17 (27:18):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 17 (27:20):
So then they got to Auckland and they played a
little bit extra on the tickets for seats, which give
them a little bit more leg grew. Now their bookings
were not honored and they were given seats in the
plane which were separate from each other. So they complained
about that, and then they were given seats at last,
together all the time, of course arguing their case, and

(27:44):
then the plane they were on it seemed that all
they were told was a plane that in New Zealand
was leasing or hiring or something from specific and the seats,
the seats were designed for people of a smaller stature,
and they had a hell of an uncomfortable trip because
I mean, while they're not hugely massive people, they're sort

(28:08):
of marginally above average size. I mean, he's about six
foot two and she's probably I don't know, five foot
eight or something. But they just had a most uncomfortable
trip in seats which are far far too tight for them.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean that's what that's what in New Zealand's
having to do, isn't it, because they just don't have
the capacity, so they're having to lease planes from other
airlines that may not be to their specifications for their
high standards and continue on. Tom. Sorry, So my.

Speaker 17 (28:35):
Son, you know, he's a Kiwi and he's only just
recently got his US citizenship as well, but he's still
got very patriotic feels a lot for New Zealand. But
he was a little bit pisto frankly because he doesn't
believe that his girlfriend's ever going to fly news in
New Zealand again, you know, So he.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Was embarrassed for his natural carrier.

Speaker 17 (28:55):
Well he was really yeah, yeah, And I don't know
if they'll I don't know if they'll get them to
fly that that way again unless they can up their
game a bit.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
It's interesting because so many people are texting that throw
that they want to be proud of in New Zealand
and have been proud of you in New Zealand. So,
you know, in New Zealand bounces back and sorts out
all his problems. I think a lot of people will
jump on board and love it. And there's nothing like
when you've been living in another country for a long time,
doesn't all say for in New Zealand, there's nothing like
when you've been living in London or whatever for a

(29:23):
long time. You get on the plane and the first
time you hear that Kiwi accent from the pilot or
from Kevin Crew. You know, there's been times I've nearly
cried of world up and also laughed. It sounds so
ridiculous hearing that voice came through for a long time,
but it's a nice feeling. It you feel like, you know,
at its peak with the in New Zealand, you felt

(29:43):
like you were at home when you got on the
plane at Heathrow.

Speaker 17 (29:48):
Yeah, so am I called really not so much like
a complaint as such, but just an appeal to try
and lift the bloody bury the boundaries again and getting
us get up to where we were.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Nicely, thank you so much for your cool.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
You're right on the loyalty, but I think loyalty only
go so far. Is it easy to get back once
you lose that loyalty? I think it's real tough to
get back.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
How many hundreds of dollars is the loyalty? Yeah, except
in the difference of fears.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
If they stitch me five hundred bucks loyalty. God, that's
my price. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Nineteen ninety two is the text number. It
is eighteen to two.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah. Are you still loyalty in New Zealand? And you
think that fourun did a good job or not?

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Eight hundred and eighteen eighty.

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Speaker 3 (30:41):
They'd be good afternoon. Do you still rate in New
Zealand as our national airline? Indeed did Greg four and
do a good job?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
As CEO Herman doesn't rate in New Zealand anymore. Guys.
When booking overseas flights, we specifically avoid any flights operated
by in New Zealand. Too many shockers in elastic few years.
In the last few years it's come up as an
elastic few years. It's interesting. One twelve hour flight they
ran out of panhead after first seven panhead, Oh dear,

(31:09):
then they ran out of pan.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
That is a tragedy. Yeah, guys, I only fly in
New Zealand if we hadn't had a national carrier during COVID,
and I'm not sure how all of that would have
gone with our supply chain, communication, essentral travel, etc. When
I get on boardy in New Zealand and America or Australia,
I already feel like I'm home.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, yeah, that's what I say is but you know,
they are a national carrier, and you know, if you
look at flights as bridges to other nations, as some
have been using the metaphor around in New Zealand, they
closed down a lot of bridges. They shut down a
lot of.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Bridges, most of them, most of them actually, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
There's not very many bridges, which makes it harder for
people to get in and out of our country.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yep, absolutely, Neil, how are you this.

Speaker 18 (31:52):
Afternoon to bad guys?

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Hey, I just wanted to say that I've been flying
in zeal for most sixty years. At the back of
the day, in fact, used to be caught teal t
e a l Yeah, and they became I've done about
forty five to fifty return flights between New Zealand and
North America. I'm also flying around South America Central America,
North Africa, Europe and so on. So I've done a

(32:17):
bit of comparison, and overall, I reckon in New Zealand
is pretty good. I don't get put off by one
solitary incident. I'm looking at the bigger picture. One thing
that's been a pretty consistent a dissatisfaction has been their meals.
They were really mediocre. I mean they weren't terrible, but

(32:38):
they weren't very good either. But I just made return
flight earlier this year between North America and New Zealand,
and I noticed that the menu is being completely changed
and it was a big improvement. The plane itself was
I guess A seven eighty seven I think it was.

(32:58):
Was appeared to be refurbished, so it was quite good.
I don't have any problem with the staff. Last year
we did have one sin the problem, but I don't
really want to tire and fair of the whole airline
because of one three uh incident. You know, I'm the
Kiwi and and I do feel as I think some

(33:20):
of your Texters have said about how when they get
on the plane it's it's almost a sentimental So yeah,
so that's that's the way I feel. Yeah, what if.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You don't mind me asking, Neil, what class do you fly?

Speaker 17 (33:35):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Well, we've flown a business class a few times that
we sympapally fly a cattle class. You know, the fears
are quite expensive. We probably save a few bucks if
we if we flew maybe Air Pacific, uh for example.
But but then, like I say, I don't just look
at the fair entirely. I look at the you know,

(33:59):
the record of the airline. I know recently probably some
people have had some other problems for the ZELD, but
but I'm really looking at the very big picture over
the years, and it's it's very rare that we've had
a problem. And I say, I've been flying with them
for almost sixty years. Good on you and done and
done lots and lots of long haor flights. So you know,

(34:21):
I think being being reasonable in terms of if if
ninety nine percent of the time things are fine.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I mean, you can't expect things to be perfect all
the time. Now, Neil, I've got to just a question
that's slightly off topic here, But you say you've been
flying for sixty years, did you fly internationally Back in
the Lily Lily padding days where it took you know,
you're just flying small distances and you know right through
you know, stuff to go through Cook Islands into Tahiti
and such to get overseas.

Speaker 18 (34:52):
Well.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
I did fly to the Pacific Islands on occasion. But
what was your question exactly just.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Back in the day, as you're saying me flying right
back to the teal days, were you flying internationally back
back in you know when when you know fly, it
didn't go as far as you know you wouldn't. They
didn't go as far as Los Angeles. You used to
have the lily pad across a bunch of different airports
to get there. Were you flying in those days?

Speaker 6 (35:18):
That's true? Yes, I did fly one occasion from from
Owner's Heiland to Fiji to Western Samoa to the American
I believe, from not Apia and then from Apia over
to to Tahiti and then from Tahitis to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Needs to be crazy in.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Los Angeles and Los Angeles up to Vancouver. And in fact,
the plane that I flew from Fiji to Fiji to
samo on was I think a DC six that was
back in the old propeller days. The one thing that
I was really pleased to see was the jets that
come in and things are sped up quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, thank you so much, Neil. Yeah, that's the thing.
I mean we complained about flights, but the fact that
you can blast straight from Auckland to JFK, yeah when
you used to have to go through Ireland, hopping all
the way to get to So sometimes we forget how
lucky we got it.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
The DC T Could you smoke on those? I think
you could?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh yeah, mate, you could smoke. You could smoke right
up till the Actually, that's good question. Nineteen niney two
does someone know when they stopped smoking on the New
Zealand flights? Because that was crazy smoking?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
How crazy is that?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Smoking? On any smoking and not smoking? And you know
there's no division between the the smoke traveled.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number call?
Do you still rate in New Zealand? And how do
you think? Greek four? And did as CEO loved to
hear from you?

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Speaker 3 (37:00):
News talks there be it is six to two Peter
Good afternoon.

Speaker 20 (37:04):
Well domestically I used to get the crew from the
credit card. I don't get that anymore. Between Christians and Wellington,
I would prefer a jet service rather than turboprop, even
though sometimes jets to operate the route. At the morning
tea from retired pilots, they were saying that some of

(37:24):
them didn't think the catering was very good based on
recent experiences, and the cabin crew members thought the catering
was for what people pay for business class and other things.
They didn't think the catering was up to standard. And
I don't know if that applies to the lounges as well.
So if you're running an airline on a cost efficient basis,
you know, cutting out orange Juwish years ago would have

(37:47):
saved you hundreds of thousands of dollars just on a
small run, not not serving any catering at all. You know,
it's very cost effective. So the current CEO, he sort
of had to join the company under extreme circumstances, was
a former CEO who's now the Prime Minister, left very

(38:08):
quick we become a member of parliament. And if you
look at the history of CEOs Ralph Norris, who's certainly
made money for the airline. And I believe you know,
the short departure of the Prime Minister when he was CEO,
he left in a big hurry and if he was

(38:28):
still there, you know, his copybook would have been, you know,
sort of not look good because of the COVID situation
happening worldwide. So I don't think end Zone really is
up to standard. Last time I did a big international trip,
I went on China Southern. I do like the Dreamline, don't.

(38:51):
I think it's the best aircraft in New Zone have
I don't like the other aircraft. But if you don't,
you know, give a premium service. It's hard to get
a premium price and very.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, we'll keep this conversation going on after the news
because so many texts and calls coming through. We need
to get to So one hundred and eighty ten eighty
in New Zealand do you rate it? Greg?

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Four?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
And what kind of job did you do?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Nine two ninety two is the text number? News sport
and where they're coming up? You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
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Speaker 3 (40:09):
Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. Been having an
interesting chance about the state of air New Zealand and
twenty twenty five on the back of course of Greg
four and resigning. He will see out his term till
October before they find another CEO. But it has been
a challenge for Greek.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, they've got capacity issues, they've got engine issues, they've
got a lack of planes. He had the helm, he
had the stick through COVID, so he faced a lot
of challenges. But you'd say that in New Zealand's currently
sitting below its peaks analogy to put it. It's good

(40:44):
it's flying at twenty four thousand feet.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yep, another six thousand ago before that's back to twenty
nineteen levels.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, they ever flying at thirty four thousand feet.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, some great teams coming through on nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Recently for around the world used many different airlines of
different caliber, and I must say in New Zealand was
the most deflating. The airline was nice, but the service
wasn't good at all. To lack the luster nowadays, which
is a pity because I love New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
So thanks the luster, lovely turn a phrase that's.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Funny because you say lack luster. Yeah, I've never heard
him say they lack.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Lack the luster. Yeah, very clear.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I would never fly in New Zealand again. After flying
up to Hawaii on arrival, landed terminal miles from the
main exit, no proper signage to find bags on leaving
some issues, walked miles to find check in, and finally
found the ticketing in a temporary set up on a
cardboard box with bag tickets set up, no signage, no info,
just like we had to ask people all along the airport.

(41:41):
As for Greg, for and good guy, shame about COVID,
he has been up against that. I think he has
done a good job. But noticed a few weeks ago
when he was speaking to Mike on the show he
sounded drained and exasperated. No surprise he decided to go.
I'll tell you what, flying out of Hawaii, it's a
disappointing quarto experience, is it? Yeah? Because it's shared with

(42:01):
another airline. I mean, it's a nice quado, but you
basically have to sign forms and triplicate to get in.
Right in my experience, who's the other airline I'm just
trying to think now, is that American airlines? American?

Speaker 7 (42:13):
American?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Sure with some of the American airlines. And look, in
my experience a couple of times trying to get in
the coddo there and look this is poor me. That
was rough. Yeah, chorus sounds that what was a buffet
like buffo?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Was good?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Was it good? Okay? Yeah, well that's that's something.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
And I ran into malacho for Katoa in the the
the and that a lot of the cora.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, it all worked out in the end, Andred he
gave me the evils. Ten eighty is the number of call?
How do you rate Air New Zealand and twenty twenty five?
And how do you think Greek four? And did as
Ceo loved to hear from you?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Hey guys, you so still rate in New Zealand. They
don't tend to land and run into brick walls, run
into helicopters, all get shot down by Russians. Love the
show cam, Yeah, okay, none of that stuff has happened
in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Play yeah, thank god, Yeah, Jason, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 8 (43:01):
Hey, good chips.

Speaker 21 (43:02):
He just isn't it funny how we could all probably
travel on the same junior within New Zealand to the
same destination and all have opinions on the quality that
that last one you read out before was just just
absolute one, you know, completely one addy to my experiences.
But hey, isn't it terms of grade four and first?
And there's two comments I want to make for me.

(43:24):
He sort of was the right guy at the wrong time.
And I mean that in the sense of he arrived
at in New Zealand pretty much at the time COVID arrived.
And you know, there's three real hardest jobs in New
Zealand I put is, you know, one's being the coach
of the All Blacks, one's being I can't remember the one,
the other one is ce of in New Zealand.

Speaker 16 (43:46):
And it's like, well, you.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Know, as the third one as the third one not
the prime minister.

Speaker 21 (43:51):
And the third one being the prime minister, the thee
of in New Zealand probably number two because at least
with the Prime Minister, you know, you get to get
out of it every four years or three years.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Sorry.

Speaker 21 (44:04):
Yeah, in terms of experiences and everything, you know, as
a proud dad of a son who's recently within the
last twelve months joined in New Zealand as a pilot,
there was nothing more prouder to see.

Speaker 8 (44:17):
I don't know, there's.

Speaker 21 (44:18):
Something about it in terms of being national.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
Carry on.

Speaker 21 (44:20):
We did the New York sixteen hour one direct you know,
a few couple of years ago when it first came out,
and like you touched on before the news this or something,
I don't know what it is. When you get off
there with your fellow crew from New Zealand and you're
on the other side of the world, it just gives
you that sense of euphoria and proud to be proud

(44:41):
to be a Kiwi sort of thing. And I think
it'll come back. I think they've lost their way on
the national sorry regional network, and that they probably thought, well,
we can charge whatever we like and we'll still get
you know, people still fly with us. I think that's
a real big work on for whoever follows Greg fourant
is to win that businessman back again, because that's something

(45:03):
I've really had the gut sat with over the last
couple of years. You know, four hundred dollars Wellington versus
eighty dollars Jet Star type.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Saying yeah, isn't an It's a huge difference and as
interesting though, Jason, going back to what you said before
that the three, you know, I guess most prestigious jobs
prime minister, Cooly in New Zealand all but coach. All
very tough jobs. But that's what you assly to you
aspired to tough jobs. I think the Prime Minister would probably
be the toughest out of those three. The amount of

(45:32):
variables coming at you as prime minister.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, but there was you know, I heard some analysis
about Greg four and and Adrian or we don't want
to get into Adriam, but you know a lot of
people saying when you get to that level of the
corporate world or the in the Adrian's case, the Reserve Bank,
that is what you want in life. You want challenges
and you want some hurdles in front of you. But
I don't know who Greek four and really wanted what
he got in there.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Well, there's also a premium premium special hyper flash corrow
as well. When you're flying that we don't even know
about us mortals don't even know about Hey, Jason, you're saying,
did you say that your son had become a pilot
as a New Zealand pilot.

Speaker 21 (46:07):
Now, yeah, we went through that journey, you know, the
financial burden of trying to get a person into aviation
and all that stuff, and honestly, mate the time when
he when we're overseas on that trip I mentioned when
we've got the news he had been successful, it was
the most proudest moment probably in my life. That's wicked, Yeah,
it's wicked, and it's like, you know, yes, he could
earn probably three times more flying for another you know,

(46:30):
in Emirates or double for Quannas. But you've got to
remember too that in New Zealand's got the toughest entry
requirements of all the world aviation.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Airlines, great safety record. Did he go through the Air
Force wale or privately trained?

Speaker 7 (46:44):
No?

Speaker 21 (46:44):
I went through the pathway through the you know, the
pilot what do you call it, the affiliate private scheme?
But you know, you get left with a massive amount
of short hours and you've got to fight. You've got
to finance that.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It's like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, isn't it.
By the time you finished.

Speaker 21 (47:00):
There, I think he left with about a two hundred
thousand stewed alone.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
You know, medicals, more h and what kind of planes
is he flying? Now?

Speaker 21 (47:09):
You know the turbos, you know the regional Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the dashes yep.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Oh how good?

Speaker 16 (47:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (47:16):
But you know, it's just something you fororic about in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah, there is, I'll tell you what. Like you know
I was saying before. You know, when you're in London,
you've been living over there for a while. This is
specific to me. And you get on the New Zealand
Plates flights, you feel very proud just to be in
New Zealand, to hear the voices and back in the
day in New Zealand was such a great airline. You're
so felt proud of about that. But I can't even
imagine the levels of pride I'd feel that my son

(47:40):
was a pilot flying for your New Zealand. That must
be very very cool, Jason, So well done.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Thanks, thanks guys, thank you very much. Yeah, that would
be special, wouldn't it. A couple of texts Hi Boys
nineteen eighty eight on domestic flights and nineteen ninety six
on International, Oh, they banned smoking thanks from Dave, we asked.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
The question Little Domestic nineteen ninety six on International isn't
that crazy? The nineteen ninety six you could still smoke
SIGs on a plane. Yeah, I mean just seems crazy
now to me that you one could be walking around
with little sticks of fire on a plane.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
When did they stop smoking indoors at pubs in New Zealand?
I remember it was, remember, remember the tenth of December?
But was it the.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Cigarette and lighter plot?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Yeah? Yeah, it was tenth of December though, right, it
would have been just when I turned eighteen.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Nineteen ninety two. Let's go to the Oracle of Truth
and Information. Yeah, I need to get callouses on your
fingers looking it up on Google. Tyler Paul will tell.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Us let us know, oh, eight hundred eighty ten and eighty.
But we will go back to having a chat about
EAR in New Zealand. Do you still rate it as
our national airline? And how do you think Greek four?
And did a ceo? It is quarter past.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
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Speaker 19 (49:00):
Call eight hundred eighty eight news Talk, said B.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
News Talks hered B it is eighteen past to a
truckload of techs coming through a nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
WI fly in New Zealand domestic to get given a
crap coffee and an average snack. Take the risk on
Jack's jet Star and spend the money you save on
a couple of beers on the flight. Cheers Tim. So
you know, take your byo the flight.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah, I do like the Quardu hour low, get a
nice class of wine and.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, I mean part of my loyalty to in New
Zealand is the corrow, right, Yeah, because I don't want to,
you know, left out there.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
It's good lounge.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Actually, I've got to say though airports now, because recently
I've been flying and not going into the lounge for
there's a couple of reasons why i haven't been able to.
And you know, it's actually it's actually all right out there.
It's actually pretty good out there.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Well outside of the lounges.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, yeah, that the bars, restaurants are and I mean
airport's are pretty flash now all over in New Zealand.
Here we go. Recently flew Delta domestic in the States
and it was outstanding, from booking to boarding, the flight
and the postflight excellent, brilliant. I've been flying with the
New Zealand weekly for decades. The past few years experience
with the New Zealand has been appalling to the point
of being lingering mental trauma. That's Chris, Yeah, that's you.

(50:10):
Don't often hear people saying positive stuff about domestic flights
in the United States. Paul, you're in New Zealand experience.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
Good money, things quite good.

Speaker 18 (50:22):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 14 (50:22):
At the I was at the airport about a year
and a half ago and I was putting my bag
on and I look at this guy that's lifted my
bag and I couldn't see his face, and I said, Tom,
are you Greg? He goes yeah, and I said aren't
you supposed to be running the show? And he goes
all hands on Dick today And I said to him,
Nick should be flying the plane.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
That is. That's a good CEO, a clever CEO to
be seen on the ground. And what he was handling
the bags was.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
He Yeah, he was putting the bags, taking them off
the people's and putting them onto the conveyor belt.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, because some people, some people you know, said that
his lack of aviation experience was a problem when he
hit the ground, and he had to learn very fast.
The best way to learn is to do every part
of the business, going kind of have a week in
every part of the business. Are the b CEOs. Are
the b CEOs the ones that come from the bottom
of the business start, you know the cliche, start in

(51:17):
the mailroom and work the way up to the top.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Definitely must be Yeah, what do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (51:22):
Yeah, no I think he Yeah, Well, without a doubt,
you've appeared to do the work and get your hands dirty.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
And what was the reaction? Was it just you that
spotted grig or did a lot of other customers not
it was him?

Speaker 6 (51:35):
No?

Speaker 14 (51:35):
Well, because you know, I just saw him for that
fifteen seconds and put our bag and made a joke
with him and walked off. We Also, I just flew
back to Japan on the weekend, and it's just just
a stunning flight with them as well. And I sat
in the airport in Japan and looked out of that
ere New Zealand plane and just well full of pride.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yes, so I like hearing that, Paul then went them
and running.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Everyone's we running everything down? But how about it just
feel a little bit proud, but proud in your country?

Speaker 14 (52:05):
Yeah yeah, I love everything's perfect. You know we know
that on.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Your bill stuff. Thank you very much, all right, mate,
have a good afternoon. Why fly Air New Zealand domestic
this Texas is two because you own the airline as
a textpayer. The reason jets they are so cheap is
it is a lost leader. I fly every week and
will not fly any other airline other than in New Zealand.
On a trip back from Brisbane last week, the service

(52:31):
was perfect, even had to cancel and change the flights.
All done easy. Have flown New Air New Zealand for
twenty seven years from heighty.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
There you go, heidy, I tell you what, there's a
whole raft of texts coming through after the initial running
down the whole situation, there's a whole raft of texts
coming through big upping the airline.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yep, we're going to get to more of those very shortly.
Back keen to hear from you on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty do you rate New Air New Zealand and
how do you think Greg Foran did As CEO. It's
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Speaker 1 (54:16):
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Speaker 3 (54:22):
We're talking in New Zealand. How do you rate the
airline in twenty twenty five on the back of Greg
Foruan's resignation he'll finish up in October. And supplementary question,
how do you rate Greg Fouran's tenure.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
My husband and I live in Napier, Sister Sex out
and travel a lot. It's hard to remember the last
flight we took with in New Zealand when the flight
wasn't delayed or canceled completely. When we travel overseas, we
always go to Auckland the day before. It's too risky
to go the day of the international travel. What annoys
me the most is that if I want to change
my flight, there is a change, a change fee and
extra for the new flight. In New Zealand do it

(54:55):
all the time and don't get to build them back.
I would love to lovey in New Zealand. I really
want to be proud of them, but they are too unreliable,
and even though they claim to be the best, there
are others out there that are better. Guitar Emirates, for example, Sadley,
we only get in New Zealand in Apia, so we
have to suck it up and pay the high fears
and suffer the unreliable service. That's from Donner. I think

(55:18):
if your.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Text, yeah, Liz, now you are closely connected to Air
New Zealand, is that right? Well?

Speaker 22 (55:25):
Not now, but I used to do about one hundred.
In fact, I counted up my boarding.

Speaker 12 (55:29):
Passes one year.

Speaker 22 (55:30):
There were ninety one, and most of that was international travel.

Speaker 12 (55:33):
And they were very good.

Speaker 22 (55:35):
They were very very good to me, and I used
to get upgrades and in fact I used to know
most of the people on the twenties. I'm in christ
to it on the twenty third or twenty sixth floor
of where Air New Zealand was there. But I am
still connected to stuff that have been close to Air
New Zealand. And I think you guys have summed it
up very well about Greg Boren and what he's had

(55:55):
to put up with. It's been a major I've heard,
you know, getting parts for the planes. They're having to
be parts up. New Zealand is way down the list
on getting parts for airplanes.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
All these other countries.

Speaker 22 (56:06):
Get seem to get after first. And what I've also
been able to ascertain is that Greek Faud has been
held back by the union some decisions that he wanted
to make. You know, they haven't been a happy mixture there.
So I don't know how true it is, but it
was a good authority.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
But I've heard that.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Oh well, thank you, Liz. Now you've done ninety one.
Surely you've got to get another nine flights in there
and get the century.

Speaker 22 (56:33):
Oh look, I don't I don't do it very much now.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
I did it for years.

Speaker 22 (56:36):
I was always overseas and you know, coming. But even
the trips i've been in the New Zeand and recently
I haven't had a problem with them. I cannot say
that they've failed us.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I mean it on the day, sorry, Liz. Depends on
the day.

Speaker 22 (56:51):
It depends on the day, It depends on the time, depends
on the weather, It depends on a lot of things.
And I mean, nothing's perfect.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
No, thank if you callers, I still think you need
to get another nine flights ninety one.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
That is like a cricketer almost getting the century, isn't it?
Just get that nine more flights Lis and you would
have hit that hondy the nervous nineties, Richard, you had
an experience line to Japan last year, go to bed.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
Oh pretty badly with the new season. So first of all,
the flight got delayed, and then I was asking the
bank's checking people what do we do. They didn't have
a clue, so I know thed not fairly well. So
I went over to the ad seed the place there
when you have to be delayed, I said, okay, like

(57:40):
you doing some vouchers and if you like that for
drinks and I don't hear it. No, yeah, we've had
I also said to them that because of so in Japan,
chang stop at midnight. So because of the delay, I
couldn't get the Shika sad track to kiot So. I

(58:05):
was sitting then to stay in Tokyo for the night,
which meant book a hotel in Tokyo, chancel hotels in Kyoto.
They go through all that expense, and I asked her
about was there any conversation involved in this? Do they
help out? Basically it was like that, you know, yeah,
well this is your book.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
For you, and that's where I think they'll fall off. Richard.
You're quite right, and clearly they've had they've been in
financial dire straits over the last five years. But you're
quite right. When it is the airline's mistake and you
are out of pocket, it is only right that they
try and make it up as bits they can.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
Yeah, and I believe they should have. But they're pretty
loved about it all basically now and are fly anywhere.
I'll use an Asian airline slot, better service, the airline
staff and a lot more friends here on. There nothing
too much of trouble with them, where with their news
they're just seemed to not not really care much and

(59:05):
I want to be fair.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Do you have a fly KFA Pacific?

Speaker 8 (59:10):
Oh I haven't.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Thank you for your disappointing because i'men writing for Casa pacifically.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
And I'm surprised by that because there's a boogie yearline.
Yeah yeah, so it's a very classy flight, yeah yeah.
So what are you writing about New Zealand?

Speaker 6 (59:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
God, patriotic my love of the country, Yeah, lovely, So
should we Yeah, we'll put an end to this fantastic
chat we've had and I think if we sum up
the feelings that people have had, right, we want to
love you in New Zealand. Of course, you know, like
I'm collating the thoughts of thousands of texts. We want
to love in New Zealand. We want to be proud
of them, but we're currently frustrated. Things do seem to

(59:44):
be getting a little bit better, but there are challenges,
and overall, Foreign probably gets a pass mark. You know,
he's been in the cockpit and some pretty turbulent times,
made some decisions that have turned out to be poor,
like the permanently retiring some planes that we could really
do with right now. Yep, although there's been pushed back
on that that those engines were too hard to keep up.

(01:00:06):
But overall, you know, he had had a tough time
in that cockpit. It was a bit of turbulence. You
see what I've sort of tried to do. There's a
lot of analogies. I've tried to bring in a sort
of a flight theme in there. It didn't quite work,
you know, you didn't even notice that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
But beautifully surmised. I've got to say, well done and
good discussion. So thank you to everybody who phoned and
text on that one right coming up, Let's have a
chat about road rage.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, so there's a pretty high profile road rage incident.
You can watch the video on the Herald website right now.
But I've got a theory. I've seen two road rage
incidents in the last week and I believe people are
getting angry on the roads. Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Am I right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Two nine two is the text number headlines with rayling
coming up?

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(01:01:16):
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Zealand News Giant. You can read this and more from
Media Insider at zaid Herald Premium. Now back to Matt
Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Thank you very much, ray Leane, and we talk about
road rage. This is on the back of an Orkland
man who was nearly rammed off the road by an
aggressive you drive in Auckland. The yout driver attempted to
swerve into the man's car and later tried to open
his door.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
How crazy is it that someone will risk that all
and how much worse is your behavior in that situation
than the thing that started the road rage? If you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like, so it's so
bad to do what they were doing. But by the
time you're trying to ram someone whatever in discretion, the
person there before you are clearly a worse driver than their.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Heck you, I mean that is the red mess. Surely
there's no other explanation when you try and ram someone
off the road and you're effectively that's attempted murder, Almost
didn't it. You can kill someone very easy, but the road.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
At that point in your hear to you thinking this
is completely normal? What makes total sense that I'll be
trying to ram someone like I'm in a Hollywood movie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yeah, this is a logical reaction to what just happens.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
How much of a muppet do you have to be
to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Exactly? Yeah, it appears the offender in this case, the
employe got involved and there is an investigation, so clearly
that person hopefully will lose their job being an absolute idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
The employer of Defender. Yeah, yeah, my driving is monitor
in one of those cars.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yes, what a numbscull.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
We've just got this here. I mean, if you drive
any of the ins in me cars, then you'll get
an email if you go over the speed limit?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Instantly?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
That must only be up in Auckland because it doesn't
have any chrisis.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
They doesn't ever down a cross. You up here? You
go the speed limit, immediately get a telling off email?

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Is that one O five or one ten? What do
you mean hundred? So you're on the open road? Yeah,
do they get an email if you go on?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
I think it's one O five?

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Yeah, or fifty five can be a little bit more
generous than that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
I got to say, though, an email, it's not that
bad a punishment.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
But the question we want to put to you, whiz
and you you have a theory that things are still
a bit tense out there met You've seen a few
incidents of late.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, this is a sample of one me walking around.
I've just seen two quite quite aggressive road rage incidents
in the last week. And I was just wondering if
the tensions, you know, what's happening with social media, what's
happening with pressures from the economy. You know that there's
a level of anxiety and I guess anger in the

(01:04:25):
world now that may not have been there a few
years ago, And I wonder if that's manifesting on our roads. Yeah,
because I'm just seeing more road rage. But and you know,
you see this on the on the TV, I mean
on the zid herold and you go, oh, yeah, yeah, Well,
that that's pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Roadrage makes sense. They also call it mad March. That
was a new phrase that I heard, but it kind
of makes sense. Is that March all the UNI students
go back to UNI. Everyone's back at work. The motorways
at shock a block. But it's the same up and
down the country. It seems that March is a month
there people get a little bit fired up on the road.
Really yeah, mad March? Okay, oh, eight one hundred and

(01:04:59):
eighty ten eight years the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Absolute rubbish me, but it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Thanks for sharing. It's to the conversation, doesn't that nineteen nights,
it's the text number. Let's gout of the phones though,
Get Aaron, you've got a theory on road rage.

Speaker 16 (01:05:11):
Yeah, good mate. I think it's because you know, there's
so many major roads closed during the day now, Like
I've been working in Gisbon and we were coming home
a couple of days earlier, but they had the main road,
the Gorge between the Potaga and Gisbon closed from what
like ten am to five, So then you're diverted down

(01:05:34):
all these other roads and then everyone just assumes, for
some reason now to speed them everywhere is eighty k
on the highway, people just go slow, which irritates people. Yeah,
that's amazing, and.

Speaker 23 (01:05:45):
Then it's just yeah, that's that's the main reason to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Be honest, Aaron. You kind of guy that someone's driving
eighty k when they should be able one hundred that
you get you get right up their ass and make
a point of it, get into the tailgating allegedly.

Speaker 23 (01:05:59):
But I'm not gonna lie, I do toot, I have
stopped like I don't. I'm not a road rage. I
don't know. I don't get aggressive. Now I was quite well,
not bad, but i'd like two and full of fingers.
But now I feel like seeing all these videos online,
it's like, you don't know who you're going to piss off,
or yeah you it's someone you don't know what starts

(01:06:20):
thinking in their head or what's going to happen to you.
Because I was coming to work one morning over the
Crimes at six thirty and this guy I passed him
in the passing line perfectly fine, and then he got
upset and put down his foot and cut me off
and then slowed right down to about fifteen k's and
he was like putting his arm out the window. I
didn't do anything wrong in his mind because I passed him.

(01:06:43):
He wasn't happy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I totally agree with you, Aaron. I think it's
amazing the risks that people take on the road in
terms of, you know, getting on the horn and getting
abusive because you don't know what that person there's That
person could have been up on the on the pea
pipe for four days, yeah, on the myth n fetter Meine,
you know, and then they'll come at you with a
tyre iron and you know it's hugely risky. I had

(01:07:05):
a friend in Los Angeles that he was a bit
of an AGGRESSI driver honking at people and a guy
got out with a glock and pointed it as.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
It's okay, yeah, that's the last time you'd honk at anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
And you know we're not without guns in New Zealand. Yeah,
so you gotta be careful before you go absolutely crazy
and ramp the situation up to that kind of level.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Yeah, Aaron, thank you very much. Speaking about honking, I
do actually remember the last time I honked it. Someone
wasn't too long ago, but I think it was. It
wasn't quite a friendly honk, but I was on the
motorway right and four lanes, and the guy to the
right of me just slowly started drifting into my lane,
so I just give the way and then oh, I

(01:07:45):
could almost see him, you know, like sort of shake
up in his seat and then swerve back into islaie.
So that to me was appropriate.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
But that's what the horn is invented for, Tyler, that's
what you need the horn. You prevented an accent with this.
You reminded someone that something was going wrong. Say, for
some reason, they're they're they're reversing and you're behind them
and there's no way you can get out of the way.
You or even in that case you go. But people
that use it as than if you, that's not the
correct usage of a horn. Okay, No, never honk the

(01:08:13):
horn and anger. Only honk the horn to inform people
of a potential danger.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Save a life, or to give a we thank you.
But even that way, you know, hey, you're virgin into
a lane here, you might have an accident that could
have turned on me. That person could have just been
having a bad day and said, what the hell is
that person?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
If you turn around and someone's giving you a real
loud horn, blast right yeah, and because you haven't pulled
out it in a section or whatever, and you turn
around and it's a European cast, but particularly an Audi,
you're gonna understand there's no control than an Audi over
the They're the hardest horn to control. You're like, you're
trying to go for a book and you'll get and

(01:08:52):
you're like, no, I was just trying to give you
a friendly pull out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Audi drivers. Can you confirm eight ten eighty TIX number
is nine two, nine to two. We'll give a few
of those very shortly. It's eighteen to three.

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Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Be good afternoon. It's a quarter to three. We're talking
about road rage on the back of a story and
they hear it about quite a serious road rage incident.
But we're getting a lot of text to the question.
Are things a bit tense out there?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Yeah? People getting ramped up with all the financial pressure
out there. I think there's something to what Aaron was
saying before about the mount of roadworks around Yeah there.
I mean, you know, in Auckland, City Auckland Transport is
basically trying to squeeze you out of your car to
torture you into not driving your car. That's their principal goal,

(01:09:48):
is to make it so horrible to be in your
car that you're forced to go on their terrible public transport.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
I almost missed my turn off this morning coming down
Nelson Street and there was a whole bunch of cones
that have been there forever ever since I've been here,
and they've taken the cones away, And I thought, am
I in the right place here where all the road works.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Try driving down Papanui Road a few times day. You'll
be ready to hurt yourself. They might as well just
get rid of the lights, because everyone just ignores the
red lights. I'm a district nurse and cruise that area.
I'm in despair by the time I finish.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Papanui is notoriously bad. It's in christ Church and yeah,
there's a truckload of lights and it's Chocolate Block and
the congestion is out of control and it goes past
the god awful more. Yeah, it's just bad. It's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
So this is further to my thing that you should
only use the horn as a warning. This text says
on nine to nine two, what happens when they don't
correct the driving after several friendly toots? Or you can
tell their texting, or they're just oblivious. Yeah, I mean
you can increase the you know, the the volume and
the duration of your toot. Yeah, if they're you know,

(01:10:55):
if they're reversing towards you and you see them coming
down and they can't see you, go. But if they
don't talk around, then that's a good time to go, obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I mean there is a lot of lane creep
on the motorway. Let's be honest. I mean, how many
honks do you get out of a standard? Yeah, stand
of a horn in the car? I'm going to run
out of hanks And.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Look, it is a horrific crime to sit at a
light on your phone and mess when it goes green. Yeah,
I mean everyone's waiting, everyone's stressed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
You should be called out for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
And then and then you you don't pull out, Yeah,
I mean, come on, keep your eyes on there, I mean, yeah, yeah,
what's wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Get it together? Oh wait, a show one hundred and
eighteen eighties and number to call Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
What happened to you the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
I was going home and at the Upper Harbor Bridge
and the Green Iife Bridge and they're doing a roadworks
and three lanes went down to one, but they let
you know, about five hundred meters out, you know, those
blinking lights on those trucks and the arm sort of
saying that two's going at a one. So nearly when
I was in the left hand lane sucking it up.

(01:11:57):
It's going to take them five minutes long or whatever,
and there's people running up at the end the other
what lane that's still open, and then just crawling and
just as it disappears.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Ah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
So I just went in the other lane and the
same speed as a guy by me, and this guy
comes running up to me, you know, swimming up in
a four wheeler and gets to me, see I'm doing
the same speed as everyone else and gives them a
flashing Give me the bee, mahong can give me the
if you with the fingers, enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
That is exactly what he doesn't want. You know, He's
still all that stuff, but it's tackling you. Yeah, yeah,
good on you, Peter.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Thanks for you, coul as a good story. Just we
story here by text. Guys, I get peed off with
drivers who do not know how to merge, drive too
slow on the motorway, stay in the fast lane when
the motorways are quiet, when they should move back to
the left, don't know what you do when emergency vehicles come.
I think it is after the back of COVID. Too

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many drivers who don't know what they're doing. We need
to have checkpoints at every motorway entry one weekend to
get the bags off the road.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
It's so interesting, the whole merging thing. And because I'm
teaching my son how to drive, and you know, when
you're teaching them how to merge onto the motorway, you know,
merge like a zip yep. That's quite That's such a
gray area in driving because you have to negotiate. So
every other part of driving pretty much I'm teaching them
is a sort of black and white. That but it's
like this is a negotiation. You indicate you want to
go there. You if they're not giving them big enough gap,

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you have to start sort of making it quite clear
that you're coming across no matter what you know. And
some people drive along completely oblivious and aren't looking out
for people to merge in, which are terrible human beings
and deserve to be tased. But it's just a really
really interesting sort of communication via vehicle that you do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
But that's something I've had to learn that when you
come on to the motorway, as I understand it, the
crect rule is you gun it right to the top
and then you merge right to the top of the
merging lane.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
So if you're coming onto the motorway and you gap
it right too as far as you can go, and
that's the point where you merge, I believe that's the
correct response. But I actually like you're what you're teaching
your boy is that you were negotiating, So you don't
need to get it right to the top. If you
see it, we gap there or you're indicating and someone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
But even at the top you're in negotiation because if
you're teaching a kid to drive, by the time they're
at the end and if they can't get in, then
they're run out of runway to get on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Yeah, so things get angry.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yeah, yeah, thanks, get think get angry. But it's a
it's a very complicated, interesting part of driving. James, Sorry,
press them wrong. Goddamn button, didn't I James, you had
a bit of an incident in christ Church.

Speaker 24 (01:14:43):
Yeah, I did, as I said the producer, not directly,
probably quite thankfully. See six years ago and now, driving
into christ Church on the motorway two lanes, choker chocolate,
bumper to bumper, I knew my wife was about four
or five k's behind me. I got a phone call
from it and she says, if you just had a
car pass you? I said no. She says, oh, car

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was throwing down the grass boots on the left, probably
doing twice a speed of everyone else. And I hadn't
seen it. And I got to the stage on main
North Road where the bus lanes are, and that same
car came flying down on the left hand side, past
everybody and up there to the front. So I got
on the line to the police. Start whatever it is,
triple number, tell him the police about it, and he says,

(01:15:27):
we've had a few phone calls about that. I gave
him as much info. I carried on and I got
just to the mobile station and here's this car parked
up outside the front. So me being me, I thought right,
so pack up in front, got out with my phone.
The guy was leaning into the back of the car,
and I took a photo of him and the number
plate in the car. Back in my car carried on.

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A few k's down the road. There was a police
car parked on the side of the road, so I thought, bagaret,
I thought, I'll stop and have a talk to the cop,
which I did. He says, yet, we're looking for that car.
And I told him who I was, and he says, okay,
if you're here, i'll get a statement off you. I
did the statement, I set in the back of his
police car, showed him the photos of the car. While

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we were doing that, one of his colleagues got on
the radio and says, we've got him. The guy's absolutely bananas.
He's gone nuts and he's real peeved off. So long
story short, as they got him. PROP said thanks very much,
and then he turned around and said to me, he
says that one was a good one to get. The
guy was a recently released murderer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Oh Wowapers, that's lucky, very lucky.

Speaker 24 (01:16:35):
How long ago was it, James will be six seven
years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Now wow, that's my action. That is Yeah, what a
great story. Thanks for sharing that, James, Thank you very much.
Got James got a murder off the roads. Saved lives James.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Yeah, World done, James. Nine two is the text number.
We better play some messages, but we'll come back with
some more phone calls very shortly. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is
seven to three.

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Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
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Speaker 15 (01:17:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Good afternoon. We're talking about road rage and plenty of
ticks coming through on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Yeah. The trouble with heaps of Kiwi drivers is that
they drive up the ramp to the end and then
put the indicator on. This is what Tyler does. I
never let those muppets in. I have my indicator on,
and as soon as I near the motorway, people let
me in cheers in sang on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
I said, I'm pretty sure that's the official rule in
the road code, but you should go on. I don't.
I actually think it's rude behavior. And I see it
and it eaves me off the motorway. Yeah, and I
see people gunning it straight to the top of that. No,
you just moves nicely and ask to be let in
as you can.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
I think no, I think as soon as you get
to the area which is straight motorway, you start right. Yeah,
but that's not very.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Long, so you get the broken white line. You can't
you're not to be merging.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
You're not crossing that one. You're crossing, you're not crossing
it until the broken white line.

Speaker 18 (01:18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
You know you can't movege there because you're going up
onto a non drive zone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Yeah, so soon you come down there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, think Okay, all right, I might have
I might have unfairly tard you with that. They actually
need ads on TV to educate dumb dumbs on everything
from not speeding up in a passing lane to even
checking you haven't taken up to parking spaces before you
walk away from the car, even how to indicate through
a roundabout. Many clowns indicate right then left, we're going

(01:18:33):
straight through. You go, Greg, thank you. Hey, we're going
to keep this topic coming. Road rad one hundred and
eighty three A.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
And eight nine. I ever think about how I merge
because I'm confused now, so I ever think about that.
But New Sport and weather coming.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Us sunny Texan calls coming through, but join the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Matty
and Taylor Adams afternoons with a Foldo XC eighty on
News Talk SENV.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Good afternoon, I hope you having a great Friday after noon.
Just a reminder New Zealander of the Week coming up,
as well as topical tunes where Matt and I each
peck a song related to a theme of the week
and first to three votes take it out. But we
have been chatting about road rage on the back of
a story in The Herald where an incident of road

(01:19:29):
rage where a driver was almost rammed off the road
and started to get a little bit herey, a little
bit dramatic.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Yeah, watch the video, see what you think. It's crazy
those kind of incidents when you get to that point,
I can't even get my head around someone getting to
the point where they attempting to ram another car. At
that point, there's nothing to jump up in your head
and say, maybe maybe I have lost my freaking mind.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Someone here says the amount of peak consumption in New
Zealand is probably the problem here. Yeah, another texts is, guys,
the peak consumption two peak consumption texts in a row
rate is increasing significally. Probably has something to do with it.
That's from Hugh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:20:09):
Point.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I'll tell you what. If you've been up for three
days smoking methan fetamine, you're probably not going to drive
the friendly way, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
No? And if someone honks it yet, it's not going
to go well for either party? Is that you think?

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yeah, so this is interesting as well. So yeah, eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you think that road
rage is getting worse? With the financial struggles people are
facing in New Zealand, with the insane punitive roadworks that
are being done across the nation, with the with the
just general levels of worry and angst that people are

(01:20:42):
getting from jumping down their internet rabbit holes. I feel
like tensions are raising and they explode out in road
rage incidents.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Humidity doesn't help if it's a humor day. Yeah, as
I start getting pretty angry.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Merging on a motorway says this text are worse best
when the person entering the motorway matches the speed of
existing motorway traffics so as not to cause cars to
slow down, which can cause accidents as they break or
change lanes quickly. Steve exactly. That's what part of merging
like a zip is you get into a speed that
you can just seamlessly move where ideally no one really

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has to change much in their.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Life as fast as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Yeah. Yeah, obviously you want to You want to get
in there as quickly as you can, I believe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Well, that's why I ask the question because I feel
that if it's crawling the traffic and you only going
five k's an hour and then someone joins the motorway
and they scream to the front, in my mind, I'm thinking,
you just want to get a hit out of everybody.
Go to the back of the queue. We've been here
for thirty minutes crawling, and you want to jump ahead

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of everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Are you the kind of person when someone's you know,
when there's a merge and they go to the end,
like say there's an exist you know, say that there's
a there's a right turn right yep, and there's a
straight through and then you and there's a huge queue
of traffic and you have that person that whips right
there and then starts indicating to get into that lane
with you. Are you the kind of person and go,

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this person's from out of town. They probably didn't know
they had to be on this side, and that the
last minute they've seen it and they're trying to get in,
Or you're the kind of person goes that person's trying
to jump the queue and they've come right to the front.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
I'm definitely in colum b and I have been known
in the past, haven't done at some time, but just
to jump right in the middle, you know, to block
both lanes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Yeah, there's so many texts saying this, and I don't
know what the truth of it is, but I reckon
there's fifteen text saying something similar to this. You need
to set aside another hour to talk about Ford Ranger drivers. Cheers, Matt.
People seem to be saying that Ford Ranger drivers are
the worst drivers. I just think that there's a lot
of Ford Rangers out there, so a certain percentage of
a bead drivers.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Yeah, we can definitely raise that as a topic next week.
Are Ford Ranger drivers mess of a holes?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Clive? You want to talk about merging?

Speaker 18 (01:22:55):
Yes, idea, guys.

Speaker 25 (01:22:57):
I'm just chuck laying at your conversation because I'm driving
a Ford Ranger right now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Okay, well talk to us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
So you used to have a Ford Ranger, Clive, and
I drive the Friendly Way.

Speaker 25 (01:23:10):
Well, you know, changing lanes actually causes me road range.
Every day of the week. I travel on the freeways constantly,
and people do not know how to change lanes, and
from the sounds of things, you two guys don't either.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
We'll explain it to us, Clive.

Speaker 25 (01:23:33):
Well, the road rules, the road code says if you're
changing lanes, the onus is on you to do it safely.
An indicator is not an automatic right of way as
most people seem to think. They put their indicator on,
will stop in that particular lane and wait until it's

(01:23:56):
clear and then move across. So that affects hundreds of
people behind that person, and that's what gives me road range.
Times I want to ram a car out of the
road because they are so selfish on the road that
they think they own it and they don't care about

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anybody out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Sounds like you've got a bit of rage in the system, Clive,
but it is.

Speaker 25 (01:24:22):
Also you would be on the freeway.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Well, you would though, agree though that as much as
the indicator isn't a guarantee that you get to move across.
When someone is indicating to merge, it is your job,
if you are the car in that position, to make
space for them to come through. That's how merging like
a zip works.

Speaker 25 (01:24:43):
No, that's against the road rules. The person changing the lane.
Person changing the lane must make sure it's safe to
do cloth.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
But I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
No, one hundred percent, Clive. But what I'm saying is,
if someone's indicating get into your lane on a motorway,
it's your moral responsibility as a driver to make space
for them to get in. Round the system doesn't work.

Speaker 25 (01:25:10):
True, Yeah, that is very much true. That keeps the
traffic flowing. Yeah, but for people that don't know how
to change lanes, that believe it's an automatic right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Of way, Yeah, yeah, so you.

Speaker 25 (01:25:25):
Are expected to let them in whether you want to
or not.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Yeah, there enough clothes, somewhat fear.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
He's just proved that the rumors that Ford Ranger drivers
are anger.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Yeah. But attention there for Clove.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
What a good man.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Thank you for you mate. This six of says guys,
I can do between twelve hundred and sixteen hundred k's
a week Auckland to Katya. Been doing it for forty years.
Idiots are everywhere. But again the Ford Ranger drivers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Look, I actually resent there because I had a Ford
Ranger for a very long time. Yeah, and I was
the voice range for Ford Ranger for a very long
time as well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Yeah. And so sturdy vehicles, you know, they do well
off road. But if it's got a tray, stay away.
What do you got now You've got to forward escape.
That's some far more gentile boys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
As a truck driver, the arrogance of traffic management is
hard work to handle. Also, demos and swift drivers are
the worst driving, inteed getting worse.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
I yad agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Demios, well, mostly demeos have been stolen and been driven
right through the front of deeries, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Oh maybe that's that's to blame.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
You can't blame the demo for the ram raids. The
demo is a victim in the ram raid.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Eight eighty is the number. Call is road rage worse
out there on the roads? I love to hear from you.
Nine to ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
This is a conspiracy theory from Jody Ford Ranger minus
the ah is Ford Anger the driver is a redhead,
then they have anger. Anger. This is this is good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
We've cracked crack right, that's deep. Right, We're going to
dig deeper. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighties and
number two cool it is put us through.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yes, they are a chance, absolutely champions trophy go the
black Caps into another final Scenday night. We are like
the Asterix and Obelix. You know that that Gaulish village
that just produces superstars. There's some kind of magic potion
that just cracks amazing sports people in New Zealand. And
for the black Caps to once again be looking to
break the hearts of the Indians just makes you feel

(01:27:36):
so good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Cheez, We're good, aren't we?

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
I love us?

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Not on maybe not on the roads though, according to
the texts coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Yeah, stuck in eastern traffic going north of Wellington a
few years back, a group of cars with patch munger
mold members thought it didn't apply to them, so they
made their own lane on the grass and weaving around cars.
Yeah that happens a bit yep yous agree. Ranger drivers
think that Ranger drivers think they own the roads. They
drove way too fast. Ute drivers always drove too fast, boy, boy,

(01:28:05):
witness a punch up on the esplanade, p TONI this week.
All right, See, if you're in a car and then
you end up outside of your car punching someone, then
you just take a sick and go. I might be
a pathetic human being.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Yeah. I think rule one is don't get out of
your car if you're get into better road rage, sustain
your blooming car.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
John, your thoughts on road rage.

Speaker 15 (01:28:28):
Oh, there's a love of show, by the way, fellas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Thanks.

Speaker 15 (01:28:32):
Yeah, Look, there's no doubt getting bad. I think that's
partially traffic getting worse. And I haven't got a tendency
to blame too much. Plea. No point in getting angry
with the mongrel Bob and guys like that. If there's
stupid enough to drive, you know, when you see the
idiots coming and they're going to cut you off, just
let them go. Don't get angry, get out of there.

Speaker 7 (01:28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:28:53):
But the think there's it's particularly when people talk about
changing lanes and Virgin likes it. But all that is
common sense, common curtesy. It's not hard, just the true
important essential rules of life. It'll get you through life.

Speaker 16 (01:29:07):
Comments.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Yeah, yeah, very wise. Absolutely that yeah road.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
That uh, Steven, the reverse merge you want to talk about, right,
that's going to be good.

Speaker 26 (01:29:25):
An Auckland version of this, which is the bus stop
reverse merge, right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Sorry, not the but lane.

Speaker 26 (01:29:33):
I don't know how well you know bell Moral Areas Minion.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Road very well.

Speaker 26 (01:29:38):
So I used to regularly drive along the Minion Road right,
And when you come to the intersection of Bellmorral Road
Green Lane Road there and there would be one hundred
cars and the queue waiting to get across Green Lane
Road Road bell Morral Road, and there's a bus lane
that runs along there from four o'clock, but it seems
nobody wants to drive in the bus lane regardless of

(01:30:00):
what time it is. There would be this big lane
that's completely empty, and I would drive all the way
up the lane past one hundred cars getting out. I'm
not going to push in front of anybody. I'm not
going to push in front of anybody, but I know
that if I get to the other side of that
that intersection, I'm going to be ahead of about three
lanes three changes of the traffic lights, right, and I'm

(01:30:24):
never going to have to put them in front of
anybody because I also know that the guy that's sitting
in the front, he's going to wait till he puts
his car in gear and thinks about it and then
drives off, you know. And I'm off bomb.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
Straight by that.

Speaker 26 (01:30:36):
I know it's all over Auckland. Nobody will drive in
the bus lane.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I've noticed this, Yeah, And if you're in, if you
live in the area, you've seen the times you're like,
this is just a this is like a heck that
knows feb it's a freebee. It's only the bus lane.
When it's the bus lane, you shouldn't have seen anything. Steven,
that was your lane. Thanks for you, Steve, very good.
I had the situation where I was rushing my kids
to cricket and I thought, there's no way I can
get there. And if I get in the bus lane,

(01:31:00):
they're going to be waiting late for the game, right,
And I'm umpire, so I've got to be there, right.
So I've got a car full of kids and they're whites,
and I get the guy to get there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
That's an emergency.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
And I saw this camera set up to ping people
in the in the bus lane, so I thought, well,
I'm going to get a take it anyway, So I
pulled up beside the guy and I said, and we
all posed for a picture out the window. Guy gave
me the sourist lock.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
I'll like, enjoy your job, mate, Yeah, does happen to you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I'm going to pay two hundred fifty dollars for this.
Just just film us and enjoy it. And because you know,
I wanted the picture, and I got a picture. But
the guy with the camera, no joy in life.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
What a miserable sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
No joy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two niney two is the text number. It is
twenty two past three.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk said the good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
We're talking about road rage, but it's kind of gone
into merging rules and also Ford Ranger abuse at one
hundred eighty's the number.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Well cool this Texas says that toy to Aqua drivers
are the worst. So there's been a bit of shade
at Suzuki Swift as well. Yeah, well so much shade
at Ford Rangers, which I take.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
No highluks abuse. Highluks are getting off Scott Free.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Does this ring a bell Ford Ranger, beautiful voice, George,
you want to talk about merging?

Speaker 13 (01:32:25):
Yes, yeah, I can sort of understand the frustration of
a couple of previous callers about merging. What I'll think
it out is that merging is more of a as
much a speed control exercise as it is indicating. Yes,
just going back, I remember watching a current affairs documentary
probably fifteen years ago, or actually might have been one

(01:32:47):
of the things like one close up at the end
of the news or something. But they had several commentators on,
and one of them was the manager of Mitsubishi Sabaru,
and he said that the biggest problem on one of
the biggest problems that he sees as people who don't
know how to merge, probably, but he did added, it's
only a small percentage of drivers, and that's sort of

(01:33:10):
what I observe. You know, most drivers merge correctly, but
they probably do it without it just intuitively, and it
is a speed control exercise. The truck driver that was
frustrated and saying that he was conferg a losing his temper,
and he said he was saying how some drivers will
sort of stop and put their indicator on and then
and then that messes up the whole flow of the traffic.

(01:33:33):
He put He was saying that the onus is more
on the person changing lanes, and then he kind of
retracted that a little bit. It's a bit of both.
But you can actually merge almost in some situations without
using indicator. That's the road code also states that you
must travel at the same speed as the traffic that
you're merging with or trying to adapt to that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Yeah, I means to me, George, it's it's far easier
to merge if the traffic is flowing, but if it's
bumper to bumper traffic on the motorway, then it doesn't
get that much trickier. Oh, sorry, you're going mate.

Speaker 13 (01:34:07):
That's where that's where you're not using your norgan.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
It's experiences every day, George.

Speaker 13 (01:34:14):
You're coming onto the motorway and it's bumping and bump
and it's moving it about ten k and what you'll
see what that truck driver has noted that people will
go halfway along the merging lane and then they kind
of come to almost to stop and try and slot in.
And that caused huge What we're doing if you're coming
onto it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
It just worked.

Speaker 13 (01:34:31):
Just it's the same. It's a speed control exercise. So
you come down the merging lane, you're doing a sixty cawn.
Oh the motorway's choker and it's doing ten k. You
just drive along the merging lane and as you get
to the end of it, you just gradually slow down
and slow down until you're traveling at the same speed
as the tack on the motorway.

Speaker 25 (01:34:49):
You will.

Speaker 13 (01:34:50):
You don't even need to use your indicator.

Speaker 18 (01:34:52):
Try it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:52):
It works.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
You're a voice of reason and a traveling time.

Speaker 13 (01:34:58):
If I can just said one more thing that's in
the road code. It also says use all of the
merging lane emphaside.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Well, that is what I said. Originally I thought that
was the road code that you've got to use the
whole merging land.

Speaker 12 (01:35:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Oh, George Aby hasn't merged into an oncoming truck.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
I'm sure all is okay with George. But yeah, thank
you very much for the reason, Shane. You sorry, Graham,
you've got a road rage trigger.

Speaker 27 (01:35:28):
Oh, there's a couple of things go on. You get
these people, particularly in the cities and there, to pull
up to an intersection. There's not two lanes up there,
but there's not for two vehicles, and they certain the
might of medal. Now they might have to cross street
turn say right, but you've got a free run list
and they just hold you up, and people are not

(01:35:49):
thinking about the people behind you. I live several red
lights on the motorway, and a red light will come
up and I'll see it from eight hundred meters away
and people will slow down and sometimes leave seventy meters
in front of them. There my particular suburb, there's a
third thing to pull over with a free vast and
sometimes a week behind. Those things extremely frustrating when they

(01:36:12):
used to have a manual van with a dodgy gearbox.
But I still just think that the people behind you,
you know, just that those things will just trigger people.
There's another third thing that goes on where we've got
people that drive on their GPS and people that drive
on their speedo. Now generally speedos are about eight to
ten k's less than the speed litters, So the people

(01:36:35):
driving on their gps are pissed off of the people
that are slow in front of them. The people are
driving by their speedo think the people behind them as
speeding and you've got that, you've got those people, and
all those three things trigger people. You know, my I
developed shorts and Turett's. I've driven up from Willington. I'm

(01:36:56):
going to hand and down to the Moto Fest to
watch the Britain racing this weekend, just to play for
a head there. But I you know, you're just people
that just don't think about the others on the road
and there's no reason to have road rage. But just
don't trigger people.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Yeah, well, Graham, Yeah, I mean you're always going to
run into idiots on the roads. That's an inevitability. But
what you can do is just take a breath, yep,
and just accept that idiots exist. But that doesn't mean
that you aren't a great person that you can't just
drive the friendly way.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Exactly. It's Friday, it's almost happy hour. It's going to
be all right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
I tell you who, I tell you. You never see
people in Evolvo XC ninety driving poorly, dear.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
No great vehicle, great drivers, just all around. It's a
good time and involve o XC ninety. We got time
for Shane. Yeah, we've got time for Shane.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Shane. Welcome to the show. Your thoughts, Ah.

Speaker 18 (01:37:51):
You know, I'm just listening to everything, and basically, I've
risked been the receiving end of road rage. I've delivered
my own bits of road rage in my past, got
sent to anger management because of it, and did a
bit of a dive into some.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Fisty cuffs psychology. What Shane, if you get into the
fisty cuffs.

Speaker 18 (01:38:16):
Yeah, a little bit. You know, just followed someone home
parked in their driveway so they couldn't get away from me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Wow, that's on the outer edge of road rage.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Yeah, so that's court mandated anger management, like the movie
pretty much.

Speaker 18 (01:38:28):
Yeah, but it was back in the essay, it wasn't
here and what I.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Imagine an essay it'd be risky getting involved in too
much road rage. I mean we hear a lot of gamble, Yeah,
a gamble, a few more guns floating around.

Speaker 18 (01:38:41):
Yeah, you never know what's going to get out of
the car. But you know, live life on the edge
when you're young.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
What did you learn in anger management? And it did
it help you?

Speaker 18 (01:38:51):
Basically, we dived quite deeply into the psychology of time
behind anger and particularly road roads, and the fact is
the majority of people on the road are in too
much of a rush to get anywhere, and they lose
all passion for anyone else on the road. Like everyone else,

(01:39:11):
I don't care about you. Get out of my way.
I'm more important, agreed, And that's where the problem lies.
And ever since I made that shift, Like my drive home,
even though my drive to work is twenty minutes and
my drive home is an hour and a half, Like,
it doesn't phaze me. I just, you know, put on
the radio, chill out. I think, do you can press

(01:39:33):
from my day at work? So when I get home,
I'm in a good mood.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:39:37):
And if you think about it, you drive in a
rush to get home, and you let everyone else around
you pest you off you get home, What does your
family see? You're permanently pessed off, You're permanently angry. Yeah,
if you've felt kids, what are you passing on to
your kids? That's the reason I made the change in
my life, Like, I didn't want my child growing up

(01:39:57):
being a loose scannon just going around smashing anyone that
looks at them. Funny, good, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
It's a risky way to live, isn't it. And you
and you're just allowing people to take over your mind
aren't you. That's the thing. I mean, they're acting like
an idiot, and suddenly they have they're in near They've
taken hold of your emotions. You're angry and it makes
you life worse.

Speaker 18 (01:40:18):
Yeah. But I mean if you look at it, like
you can see when someone is a nervous driver, right,
Like everyone can tell there's a nervous driver. They're breaking
on every corner, they're keeping a big distance following the
car in front of them. Okay, maybe they just passed
their license, maybe they don't know where. There are a
million different reasons why they're driving slowly. What is the

(01:40:39):
point in letting them affect you so much? Is it
so important to get home? Exactly? At that moment, you
know it, just chill out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
We're all going to die one day. Do we want
to spend our time on this planet just filthy angry
at someone that's not a very good driver.

Speaker 18 (01:40:53):
Yeah exactly. I mean we're all stressed enough as it
is with everything, with prices, grocers, rent, everything else. It's
ridiculous and it's hard enough like living. Why add more
stress to your life. I don't get it. I used
to be there. Yeah, well, thank you so much, real,
young you know, yeah, exactly, move on.

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Well, thank you so much, Shane, and congratulations on your
personal growth and it's great to see you in a
better place.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
He sounded very chill, didn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
He did for a guy that followed someone home into
their driveway and got sent down management course, I'll tell
you what before we finish this topic. It's been fantastic
and thanks so much for your text and phone calls.
It's been a brilliant discussion. But I'm currently teaching my
son how to drive, so I've got the l plates
on and I can't be bother taking them off and on,
you know, out of the windows when I'm in and out.
So I'm just driving around with the learner plates on.

(01:41:43):
I've seen it, and I'm pretty sure people are treating
me worse. I'm pretty sure people aren't letting me in.
I'm pretty sure they they are getting right up my butt.
I think people see a learner plate and this is
his This speaks to some kind of evil undercurrent in
our community that they will make it harder for you
to drive as a learner.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
How do you try and learn how to drive on
my motorway?

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
I don't have any the odes starter on it, but
I just get the feeling with the learner plates on people.
They're just like I can't be bothered with a learner,
so they make it hard for.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
You learn how to drive. Thank you very much. Right
headlines coming up then New Zealander of the weekend. After
that topical tunes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Here's a text just to finish. Gents, agree with your
comments about good drivers. That's Ellen, who drives an XTE.

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(01:43:31):
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How the super richer biohacking their way to immortality. You
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matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Every Friday on Mantala afternoons on zb we name the
New Zual of the week and on a wee bestow
on your behalf to a newsmaker has had an outsized
effect on the great and beautiful nation that we love.
As always, there will be three nominees for only one winner.
And remember, like the Time magazine Person of the Year,
the New Zealand of the Week isn't always an agent
of good. They are often placed on the list sarcastically.
Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. It's confusing even for

(01:44:28):
me and I write this rubbish. So, without further ado,
the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of
the Week. AH nomine one also gets the own Goal Award.
There is no government job more cushy and glamorous than
the UK High Commissioner. You get a driver, a nice car.
It's whining, dining canopies, nice digs and cocktail parties. All

(01:44:49):
you have to do to keep this plush gig is
not insult major political leaders in risky times. Fill God,
we're kicking it straight into the back of your own
net and ending your career with the lame historical ryer side.
You have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 20 (01:45:05):
What we you?

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Thank you two So gets the toys out of the
cod Award. He opened the biggest cash hos and history
sprayed it everywhere, then went to sleep and failed to
tame the tiger that came out the other end. So
he shoved us into a recession to band aid over
his own mistakes, hired a million people to help him,
and got eight hundred K a year to do it, Adrian,
or for packing a sad and quitting your job. You

(01:45:27):
were useless at anyway. You are nominated for New Zealander of.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
The Week, all right, matey, and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
The winner, I mean there can only be one New
Zealand of the Week sadly, and the winner also gets
the Hangover four Award. They traveled to the City of
Sin and did what so many keyws have done before.
They humiliated themselves and flew home with their tails between
their legs. By all accounts, they didn't hit the town
and collectively wake up in the morning on the floor
of a hotel room with a tiger in the bathroom,
but by the way they played, they might as well

(01:45:55):
have come on with Mike Tyson facial tattoos, baby strapped
to their torsos, black eyes, missing teeth, and no memory
of the night before. The New Zealand Warriors for coming
home humbled, ready to put your life back together after
a trip to Vegas. You are the Matt and Tyler
Afternoons New Zealanders of the Week. Yes, boys, we still

(01:46:17):
love you. There's a lot of games to go on
the season. It's a long season. See you at Mount
Smart next week. You ever gonna taste that keyway. Very
long season, only one game, keep the faith, only one game,
novel the game doesn't count, probably not earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
As always, very well deserved winner this week.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
It's a long season. I was watching that game that
was going it's a long season already?

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
How long do we say that too? Do we say
about the middle of the season?

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
About halfway at half time? I was already saying it,
it's a long worri yah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Yeah, we got a long way to go. It's not
over yet, right. It is time for topical tunes. It's
a game we play each Friday. We're Matt and I
each pick a song related to a story of the week,
theme of the week, if you will, and the first
to three votes via phone take set out. I think
you're slightly a hid.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
It was to do itally on that at some point.
It's unprofessional that we don't know, but I think I'm
a hid. You won last week though I did.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
Yes, so I'm closing in, but I believe you're up
four I am three.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Okay, there you go. So this is this is really important.
This one e one hundred and eighty ten eighty Who's
tune is most topical who's tuned? Do you want to hear?

Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Do I start? Because when it go first.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
You certainly do. You're you're a winner in this one
small aspect, but go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
So there was a lot of chat about horse manure,
horse droppings, horse leavings. It all turned to be a
bit of a storm and a teacup.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Arguably too much talk an hour and a half on
our show on when was that Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
Hey, the by in was phenomenal, but read that number
of text and calls turned out after Mike Coskin actually
got one of the I think it was the deputy
mirror on the program to say it was never an
issue in the first place. The horse can take can
pool on the road and we're not going to freak
out about it. But my song today is Horse with
No Name?

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
To you you have the song's only got two chords?

Speaker 19 (01:48:27):
That's all right?

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Yeah you? Is there a c in there?

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
I think that'd be is a G and F No,
only got two cords.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
Chords Horse with No Name America? Anyway, great song went
undred eighty t and eighty. If you really like that song,
what have you got? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
So Reserve Bank Governor Adrian or pact, a sad and quit,
probably because he was told to rain his expenditure and
stop hiring millions of people. High Commission to the UK
Phil Goff foolishly had a swing at Donald Trump as
some poorly attended Q and A with Finland got axed
by Winnie Peters and then Greg for and stepped down
as a CEO of in New Zealand AF after a

(01:49:07):
t time and the cock pets. There's a lot of
people saying godbye, which makes my tune pretty topical. Absolute
uns mi steem. Song was also sung at Congressman L
Green when he was walked out of the Joint Session

(01:49:30):
of Congress for waving a stick and yelling at Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
It is a great chance, is it in a stadium?

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
And the Congress turns out great chant, great chant when
you want to shame somebody, ow of a chune. Yeah right,
Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. First to three votes takes it out. If
you want to teach you more than welcome. We don't
count them, but we like seeing them.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Nine two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Yeah. If you want to affect the outcome, you've got
to turn up at the booth and the polling booth
is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. My tune or Tyler's
it is quarter to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Four the issues that affect you and if it have
fun along the way Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the
Volvo XC eighty Innovation, Style and design.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Have it all you talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Be good afternoon at it's time for topical tune. So
on the back of an hour and a half of
horsepoop chat, here is my song today, the Dropping, the Dropping,
drop droppings with no name America.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
If it eats grass, it's droppings.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Yeah, love it all right?

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Yeah, and this is my song on the back of
Reserve Bank Governor Adrian or packing us out.

Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
And cooking.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Good song right. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call full lines. But if you can't get through,
keep trying.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
James, what's your song of choice?

Speaker 21 (01:50:58):
Well, we're gonna have to go through the dissert or
no name?

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Yeah, beauty, James, Janks, you have a great weekend. Disappointing
one for me?

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
Yeah, none for me.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
I mean it's only got two chords. Does it really
count as a song?

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Well, oh yeah, we looked it up e minor in
D six slash nine.

Speaker 6 (01:51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
I think generally when you're having a song like that,
it has to be that relationship between the two. There's
only yeah, it doesn't matter, there's not get technical on it. Greg,
your your choice of song please and topical tunes.

Speaker 27 (01:51:27):
Well today.

Speaker 25 (01:51:29):
Quite a few times I want to say goodbye to you,
Mesty all right.

Speaker 12 (01:51:34):
And I'm gonna have because you, because you're behind Tyler.

Speaker 25 (01:51:39):
I'm going to have to with that no name horse.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
You beauty well, Greg to you, I say no Nona, no, no, no,
no goodbye, got crowd to hang up on them. Even
though it stop talking. It didn't really work.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Right, Josh, how are you mate?

Speaker 7 (01:51:57):
Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
You're the man?

Speaker 6 (01:51:58):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Different.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
It's so different from that segment, Josh different. How could
you could you confuse? You're a good man? George, thank you?
Trail trail?

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Okay, all right, But the consolation is it's a fantastic song.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Yeah, so crank it, enjoy it and forget about that
horse poof.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
It was never an issue dropping.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
Started on the journey. I was looking at all the life.
There were plants and birds.

Speaker 28 (01:52:31):
And rocks and things.

Speaker 5 (01:52:33):
There were sand and mills and rain. The first thing
I met was the fine with the barsund the sky
with no clown.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
The heat was hot and the ground was.

Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
Dry, but the air was full, long, silent up in
through the desert on the horse to crown name. It
felt good to be out far the rain in the desert.
You can remember the journey because the rain no one
going to get getting on than the the.

Speaker 6 (01:53:22):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
After two days in the desert, my fin began to
turn ben. After three days in the desert, fun Now
I was looking out of the river bed un the
story of told of a river that foll Maybe besides

(01:53:44):
to think it was that you see.

Speaker 28 (01:53:47):
I've been through the desert on a horse with no name.
It felt good to be out of the rain in
the desert. You can't remember your day because there ain't
no one bought to give you, no pay.

Speaker 5 (01:54:06):
The night that the horse raf free does the desert

(01:54:38):
and turned to see there were plants and birds and
dark sound things, the sounds and kills.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
And what a tune. So I think that may tie
things up. We'll go back through the records and figure
out what the actual telly is. But thank you very
much to everybody that voted for me.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
I think it might be four to four. Yeah, Hey,
something blew my mind this week. You know the author
Bod Woman yep, the reporter for the Washington Post, you know,
nineteen seventy two, would his team busted the Watergate thing open?
You know? And he's written twenty one books and I've
read a bunch of them. Fire and Fury was the
Trump one, right, yep. He also wrote this book called

(01:55:18):
Wired on Belushie and you know, very respected. You could
have get a more respected writer. Yeah, but I listened
to this podcast with Bob Murray, and Bob Murray read
started reading Wired, and he said that this book is
so far from the truth that he just does not
believe anything that Woodwide has ever written in his life,
because he is he knew Belushi and he knows this

(01:55:41):
is not true. Right, So it makes you think about everything.
Got a question everything, don't you? You absolutely got to
question everything. And every time you know something about something
and it comes up it's normally wrong. If you don't
know anything about it, you believe what they're saying. Bob
Woodwine nicely for the crap.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
Nicely said it is seven to four, beg very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
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everything in between and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC
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Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
What a good week, if I do say so myself.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
When I was talking about before, I was getting my
Bob Murray's and my Bill Murray's, my Bob Woodwards and
my Bill Murray's together, Yeah, it was Bill Murray pointing
out that Bob Woodward was making stuff up about John Belushi.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
And that was on Rogan, wasn't it. Yeah, Yeah, well
worth a watch pod.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
I love Bill Murray. I love him.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
He's very clear. Thank you very much for today and
this week. We'll do it all again next week.

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
Yeah, and across the weekend. Love your lots and give
them a taste of Kiwi whatever you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
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