Full Show Podcast: 09 June 2025

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 9th of June 2025 - a controversial start to the show with the proposition that Elon Musk is the most principled person in the world.

Then experiences of changing career as technology bites.

And a lip-smacking finish with the trend back to the Sunday Roast.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello are you great New Zealander and welcome to Matt
and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one for one for Monday,
the ninth of June and the Year of Our Lord
twenty twenty five. Boy, what an interesting show I think
if you go on this show, and can I just
say thank you so much for all the people that
are listening to the show. We've been flying up the
podcast charts. In fact, the head of podcasts that insid
me came to me and said, geez, your growth is impressive.

(00:39):
She wasn't talking about my Haglin's deformity that's growing up
the back of my heel after running in the topau
Pilla to Poe, We're talking about the growth in our podcast.
Thank you for downloading and tell friends about it if
you like it. But what I was going to say
is what a what a show it was, because it
starts off with me sort of postulating an idea that
whether you agree with Elon Musk or not his principles,

(01:02):
he's a principal human being that he believes in his
principles right through to just the most heartwarming chat about
and they got quite heated, right right through to the
most heartwarming chat you'll ever have about Sunday race.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, you'd a last hour, but you're right as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's a real journey. Yeah, and then shit goes down
with the pass ups. But yeah, yeah, I look forward
to your thoughts on that. Look, have you ever got
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Speaker 1 (01:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:53):
Good afternoon to You're welcome and so Monday, I hope
you had a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Getto mess, get a Tyler good av when you had
an amazing weekend. Down and topau at the pull it
to po which is a relay that you run around
It's the seven point two k track and you run
relays over six hours.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's agrun.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So I ran about three running at five sixteen a k.
So ran I ran three three laps.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well done, so that's twenty one kill, twenty two k
half marathon.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I had another member of my team, which was a
lot who was a lot faster than me, so he
wasn't giving me much rest time. But what a great thing.
You've got to celebrate people that come up with ideas
and put them together and put them on. I think
we don't celebrate people like that enough. We're always listening
to people that are wing ging or have a problem
or coming up with reasons why they can't do stuff.
But these great New Zealanders at the at two Mile
Bay Sailing Club putting that, pulling that together, and it

(02:44):
was their first year. It was just so well run.
People had a fantastic time. And the thing about running
a relay race, even you know it's a long relay race,
it's not like the four by one hundred it's in
our case it was three by seven point two k.
But it's fun because running because off in the solo sport,
isn't it. You go a long distance run, you talk

(03:04):
to people at the start and at the enn, but
the relay aspect of it made it so fun. So
thoroughly recommend of the politipone next year. If you're if
you enjoy a.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Bit, are running fantastic? How's the legs?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Legs are a bit stuff? Actually?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I know because I saw you well in Studio B
at the moment and I saw you walk out of
the previous studio.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, bit of a but I'm don brashing around, got
a bit of a dom brash gate on.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, fair enough too. After twenty one k right, I
want to today's show very quickly. After three o'clock Sunday
Roast revival across New Zealand, the once old fashion Roasters
back on the menu and were loving it.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, are you bringing it back? Have you let it?
Let it lapse? And what's so great about the Sunday Race?
And do you have to make it south at home
or is it or is it better to go out
and go to a pub Sunday lunch? Yeah, Sunday Race.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Big questions that is after three o'clock, looking forward to
that after two o'clock. Changing careers, gen X is at
the laddest generation to find themselves having to change career
or upscale in New areas because of technology.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, there aren't a lot too many. There aren't too
many gen X that have gone from the start to
the end of their career in the same business. We've
had to go all over the place. And are we
the greatest generation gen X?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's been cool.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I think we've been through a lot. I mean, we
were smoking a lot when we're kids, because the push
to stop smoking wasn't.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
There behind the bike sheds.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, right through our late teens into our twenties, we
were smoking. We were we thought RaRo was healthy. We
were on the white bread. No one told us that
was a bad thing. In fact, the food pyramid was
around the other way, simple times, and all the businesses
that we work and disappeared slowly. So you know, have
you had to change careers eight hundred and eight, ten

(04:45):
eighty And what generation has had at the hardest? Yeah,
definitely not your soft millennium.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Generation stage millennials. Absolutely. I'll make my case for that
after two o'clock because right now, let's have a chat
about Elon Musk. Is he the most principal person in
the world right now? So tensions obviously erupted over Donald
Trump's one big, beautiful bill. Let's call it the O
Triple B. It proposes extensive text cuts which could add
roughly US five trillion to the national debts. So, after

(05:12):
stepping down from his role as advisor to Donald Trump,
Elon Musk criticized the O Triple be as a disgusting
abomination that would burden American citizens with crushing, unsustainable debt.
Trump returned fire, suggesting Elin was wearing thin and he said,
I quite. I asked him to leave, and he just
went crazy. So it was a dramatic escalator escalation. But

(05:34):
Musk has since deleted a few tweets that he sent
through addressed to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
So the question is, is Elon Musk the most principal
man in the world right now? And you don't have
to agree with his principles, but you've got to say
he is willing to take a lot of personal risk
and take a lot of hits for what he believes
in the debt thing. He thinks that US debt is
an existential risk. He talks about debt slavery. So he
was in bed with Trump because he thought Trump was

(06:01):
going to lower debt. Then he looks at this big,
beautiful bill and it could add trillions up to five
trillion over the next five years. So now he moves
against he moves against Trump. You've got space. He's working.
Really he believes that we need two places where humans live,
just in case there's in a terrible event on Earth.
Right as he says, to our knowledge, life exists only

(06:22):
on one planet Earth. If something bad happens, it's gone.
I think we should establish life on another planet, Mars
in particular, And that's why he has spent so much
of his life working on SpaceX and space because he
believes that it's very important that the consciousness of humanity
lives in two places so it keeps surviving. Free speech,
he believed in free speech to the point where he

(06:44):
spent forty four billion dollars to acquire Twitter, way more
than it's worth. Population collapse, he's definitely doing his bit
for that with his fourteen kids. He believes that population collapse,
as he said, population collaps due to low birth rates
is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming.
So he's pumping out kids. Artificial intelligence. He believes that's
an extential existential risks. So he started open AI with

(07:07):
Sam Altman, and now he hates Sam Oltman because some
Meltman has commercialized something that he thought needed to be
a project for the good of humanity. So he's really willing.
And then you get into his whole work with Tesla's,
so he's for what he's believed in. He's he's become
absolutely hated. Five years ago, everyone loved him. He was

(07:28):
an absolute legend of the left. People celebrated him, appeared
on every TV show. He became a he became the
definition of the great inventor and the great forward thinking man.
And then he you know, he he jumped in bit
of Trump and then they were people were burning down Tesla's,
Tesla's sales yard. So he has he has suffered a

(07:49):
lot for his beliefs. So whether you support his principles
or not, you might he seems to be a very
he seems to be willing to sacrifice a lot for
his principles.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, from what I know about those principles that you
talked about, certainly the space one. When I first read
about Elov Musk, and this was going back decades, that
was a big pillar of what he believed. And as
we needed the planet b because if things go wrong here,
we need to keep humanity going. And he hasn't waived
on that particular principle, And it seems like he hasn't
waived on a lot of the principles that he stands by.

(08:19):
But he confuses people, right, He confuses people on the left,
he confuses people on the right. And is that because
he just has a go at everybody that is against them?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, when the yeah, exactly, So that's the point. So
if you align with his principles, he's on your side.
If you go against them, then he's zero sum. You're
now his worst enemy. That's that's basically the way he works.
And that's because he does have these set principles that
he believes in very very very to the point of

(08:48):
destructive behavior.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
You might say, eight hundred a ten eighty is the
number to call is elo on Musk the most principal
person in the world right now, really can get your
view on this. It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh there you go, all right, Here comes here comes
the text, Here comes the angry text. We love them,
yeap nine two nine to eight hundred and a two.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Let's get into it. It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (09:22):
Very good afternoon sixteen pass one. Elon Masku is the
is he the most principal person in the world right now.
He's certainly stood by his principles when it came to
debt in America. He's gone against this big beautiful bill
because he believes it's going to add two dangerous debt
levels in America. But it's not the only thing. He
stood by his principles on.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh that's right, space, free speech, buying, Twitter, population collapse.
He's got fourteen kids, artificial intelligence, He's in a war
with Sam Eckman, who was the who he started Open
AI with, and now he's investing a lot in groc
So he believes if it's an existential risk to humanity,
he will fight for his principles to keep humanity going.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
You could argue, or you could argue differently. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty ride. Welcome to the show. Hey, right, Rod,
Rod Rod Right. We might just come back to Rod
in a minute. Couple of texts.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
There again, we'll go to a couple of texts now
studio has not set up for us to do the show. Hi,
Elon is cool, certainly not woke and not broke. Yeah,
he certainly not broke. If Elon was so principal, he
wouldn't have sat on his knowledge of Trump's inclusion in
the Epstein files until after they fell out. Well, he's
deleted that text about the Epstein files, and I think

(10:37):
he was just throwing that out the anger because one
weakness that Elon Musk has as he's willing to tweet
crazy stuff without thinking. And it was interesting in a
thread because someone came through with about fourteen followers and said, Elon,
maybe you should cool down and think about this for
two days before you respond, and Elon responded to that, Yeah,
this is a good idea. And he since deleted that.

(11:01):
But it's tweet.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's what a lot of people love about it, right,
is that whether that's trolling or he sees what he
feels in the moment, he tweets that out. So are
we ready to take calls yet? We'll try that again,
right are you?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
There?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Rod?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
What we're going to do in play some messages and
we're going to sort this phone system out, but always
full disclosure.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
We've be moved into another studio and hasn't been set up.
So while we'll get onto that, we'll sort that out.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Oh, eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call and we will take your phones next once
we get some engineers. And here it is nineteen past one.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking
breakfast time.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Mister joins us last week's announcement on the lack of gas.
How alarmed do you become each time they say this?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I think this is one of the great tragedies of
New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
We honestly have abundant natural resources and we should not
have an energy problem. The reality is this, at eighty
seven percent, we're a top ten country on renewabooks. We
want to double that because we're going to need it
with data centers and other things.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Do you honestly believe, heart of hearts, that we will
get to a renewable story in some way, shape or form.
I just don't increasingly don't see you. Well, we've got
to be so renewable and it's so unreliable. That's the
point I'm trying to make, is that we are going.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
To need guests for several decades to go back.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Maybe's
Real Estate News Talk ZEDV.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Good afternoon, We're talking about Elon Musk. Is he the
most principal person in the world right now? Plenty of
texts coming through on nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
This Texas is a bit of a stretch to call
a man that has several children with several different women
and it's strained or non existent relations with many of women. Principled, yes,
but that might be not one of his principles, right,
So we're talking about he has his set of principles,
and one of them is he believes that population collapse
is currently as he said, population collaps due to low
birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than

(12:49):
global warming. And another quote of his from twenty twenty one,
one of the greatest risks of civilization is the low
birth rate and it's rapid decline. If people don't have
more children, civilization will collapsed. So and his principle is
that he needs to have more children. So he's currently
had fourteen and he's trying to have more. So his principle.
You may not agree with it, but he has set
of principles. He's very public with them, and he will

(13:11):
risk a lot to back those principles. Yeah, one of
them doesn't seem to be being a present father for
someone that's not one of his principles. That's one of
my principles. I think you should be there for your kids.
Maybe not so much for Elon, except for little X and.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
This Texas says Okaday. Guys Elon Musk for all his
critics as the Thomas Edison of our time. Elon is
an unusual character, no doubt, but has an amazing mind.
He created the concept of mainstream politics, electoral engineering of
peaseenger cards. He has worked hard to create easier access
to space on an easy task. TESTA is now the
biggest AI project on the planet to change the way

(13:48):
we move around. Transport is the biggest industry in the world,
and this guy is and has reformed it. Don't discount
him yet from Paul.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
All right, so have we got telephones yet?

Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Okay, let's see if we can get right on right.
Welcome to show, Matt and Tyler. Yes, yes, sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
We had our own Elon musk Eden to sort it out.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
I thought that I was thought of saying that, but
I thought, no, no, I pull what back on that.
But I think I think Elon's got a heck of
a lot of principles and very evident and you know,
nobody's perfect. That he's still a human so and many
people want to pick holes in him, But I think
one of his great things is his transparency.

Speaker 9 (14:33):
You get what you see.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
I mean, he you know, like I mean, what's it all?
I mean, he turns up at a conservative convention with
a chainsaw to use, you know, and he possibly he
was high on ketamine in ecstasy, who knows, But it's
all out in the open. He doesn't hide anything like
and he hasn't got this sort of routine like Bill

(14:56):
Gates and and other ones of that. So all the
all the good are doing in the world, they're going
to set up, you know, food programs in Africa and
things like that. With Elon can see what he's doing,
not to forget the neuralink, what he's done with stroke
victims and people with that business, with that guy's site.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, that's definitely right, that's definitely a problem for
people that really lay into Elon Musk is the good
work for the neuralink because you could ask those people
that he's helped there how they feel about Ela Musk,
and they'll say, well, I can communicate with the outside
world for the first time so.

Speaker 10 (15:28):
In a long time.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
So it's by your you know, by your fruits, you
will be known. And he's he's superb, I think. And
I think he's got a lot of playing a lot
of humor there, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Do you think do you think that he has sometimes
his own worst enemy?

Speaker 8 (15:45):
Oh? For sure? And I mean who isn't sometimes you know,
I mean he is definitely. I mean he gets on
X and he gives on about some crazy stuff. But
that just proves he's human. He's not trying to put
up an.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
X time rod. That's what. That what That's what shocks me.
So with all the work with SpaceX or work he's
doing with uh, you know, with AI and everything he's
doing with all his different companies Tesla, how does he
have time to be blasting out so many tweets, so
many ill advised tweets.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Exactly, And some of them are so remain you know,
and some of them are just stupid. Means, Yeah, and
the thing is, but I've noticed with with some of
the stuff he shares, like with the regarding the left
and the right, Occasionally you'll you'll see something he posts
a clip from some somebody who's definitely a lefty, you know,

(16:42):
a leftist in their in their leanings, but they've got
something relevant to say or something to to to post,
and so he doesn't sort of cut off people. I
think he's No, he's he's unique, and we're always going
to have the people picking holes in him. But now,
as I say transparency, he's he's he's pretty much you

(17:03):
see the human side of him as well as genius
and his American side. I suppose, you know, he's a
bit of a lout.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Is there anything that he's done that you strongly disagree with? Rod?

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Not really, I haven't really, I'm not going to blow
smoke up the proverbial, but I honestly haven't really seen
anything that sort of gets up my nose at all,
you know, Yeah, you know, I haven't seen anything that
I think he's been. He's complimented Trump and they're both
you know, ego driven crazies in some respects, but he's

(17:43):
been a very you know he's a good balance there
for Trump.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, thank you for your call, Rod, They're definitely a balance.
Now that's sort of gone a bit out of whack.
This Blake says, in that case, we are all principal. No,
I wouldn't I disagree with that text, Blake, because a
lot of people have principles that they back away from
as soon as it gets tough. So there's things that
they believe in, but when it gets tough and there's

(18:08):
personal cost to pay, they back away from it. What
we're saying with Elon Musk because he's willing to take
huge hits. Look what he's taken the hit for. You know,
he was absolutely loved and then people were burning down
Tesla's because he believed that debt was such an existential
crisis for America that he needed to buddy up with Trump.
As a result, the left that had loved him for

(18:29):
so long essentially one of them dead well.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
And now he's facing the the IRA people and Donald
Trump can So he's successfully made absolutely nearly everyone hate him. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Elon Musk is the most principal person in the world
right now. Love to hear your thoughts on this. It
is bang on Hulpass one head lines with railing coming up.

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Speaker 3 (20:16):
Thanks very much, Raylan. We're talking about Elon Muskin. Is
he the most principal person in the world right now?
He has a bunch of principles that arguably he has
held for most of his life and very really waivers
on some of those principles. The latest one that flared
up was about the US state level.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, and so this text he has said, both Trump
and Elon Musker unbalanced. If you ask me principled, God
give me strength. That's from Israel. But that's because you
disagree with his principles. So the definition of a principal
person is someone acting in accordance with their morality and
showing recognition of right and wrong according to their morality,
even risking personal loss. So I mean, everyone has different principles,

(20:59):
but a principal person is willing to risk a lot
for what they believe in, and we've outlined what his
principles are. He's willing to risk a lot for because
he believes debt is an existential threat to America and
the world. He thinks that the Earth is under existential
threat from a calamity, so he thinks we need to
be colonized Mars so humanity survives. He believes that free

(21:21):
speech is very important for democracy, so we bought Twitter,
population collapse, artificial intelligence. He has these principles that he
believes in and he's willing to risk it all for them.
This Texas says, you two are totally ignorant. That's always
a good start when someone starts a text without He
is just like Trump, a narcissist and it's all about him.
It's all transactional for him. Firstly, he hates the Big

(21:42):
Beautiful Bill only because it removes the subsidies for EV's.
That's been proven not to be true because he asked
for the removal of ev subsidies in the Trump campaign.
He said that they should not be there. He disagrees
with subsidies, so that's not true for someone that came
in with you two are ignorant to make a mistake
that quickly. That's easily provably wrong. He has no inventor.

(22:03):
Everything he owns is through buying the best ip and scientists.
That's also not true. He was right at the start
of X and right there at the start of Tesla.
You know, people say because he wasn't he was. There
was no Tesla, there wasn't even a prototype when he
joined Tesla, and he bought X to be his own
personal megaphone. Don't forget he fired all the moderators. That's
because he believes in free speech. So his principle you

(22:25):
may disagree, but his principle was free speech is very important.
That's why I fired the moderators. Fourth SpaceX is just
a vehicle to get his two thousand children and the
best scientists to mars Well, that one's probably true.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
That's someone that clearly does not like Elon Muss no
matter what he does.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And we say, but we are ignorant. I am, I am,
I am ignorant of many things.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call Sun j.

Speaker 12 (22:49):
What's your thoughts?

Speaker 13 (22:54):
The different point obviously his principle man, but there's also
common sense. Now there's two hundred members plus in the
in the system over there. They're all one piece of
the play.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
So black.

Speaker 13 (23:06):
All the Republicans have said not it wants give what
they want to do this, but it keeps them the
test cuts because if the test cuts going in, want
an America has.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Now some jay just you you're just cracking up a
little bit. It sounds like there's a bit happening in
the background. Do you on a speaker phone, Yeah, ye'll
just speaker phone carry on.

Speaker 13 (23:28):
Yeah, So yeah, obviously there's comment he has ever got
to consent. He's not going to get what he wants, obviously,
just like some of the I know, like some of
the other centers in Congressman, they want, but they're not
going to give what they want. So that's why it's
called the Big Beautiful Book, because not one's going to
give what they want. But it ensures test cuts bought

(23:49):
Americans because I'm pretty sure nobody else wants to be
putting any more than they have before for anything.

Speaker 12 (23:53):
Basically.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
So, so you think you think Mark is would you
say that one of his flaws as a lack of
ability to compromise, Well, it's.

Speaker 13 (24:03):
Politics, man, tans I mean, who's the movie get new
for you?

Speaker 14 (24:06):
What's all the time?

Speaker 13 (24:07):
You know, I'm not said, that's a breath. And obviously
he's given up rock to to help the president and
forget him, Uh President Trump, he got shocked. They tried
to bankrupt them, They tried to they try to put
him and all that stuff and just on theis just
for that person to commented before if that was true

(24:27):
that he was in the st philes. Don't you think
that Democrats would have absolutely used that.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I think I think I think Elon's walked back those comments,
and you know that the lawyer the last talk to
Epstein has sort of put the point I think that
was that was rage. That was a rage tweet there
from Elon that one. But I agree with you on
that one. But you know, if you're if you're Elon
Musk Sanjay and you believe that debt as Americas is

(24:54):
on the fast fact to debt slavery, and you believe
that is an existential crisis for the American economy and
Western civilization, do you think the fact that it's protected
the Big Beautiful birl is projected to increase debt between
two points three a trillion to five trillion over ten years.
Can you see how that might aggravate Elon there?

Speaker 13 (25:14):
You guys, Come on, you guys. You're not going to
just flip everything over and in like the first and
obviously comes there for four years. You're not not not
going to have everything happened at one time.

Speaker 15 (25:24):
That true, that's true, yeah, politics, But.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
From my point of view, Son James, it's not. It's
not even about the big beautiful bill whatever. And clearly
you're in support of that, that's fair enough too, But
it's more about Elon Musker's principles himself. So he is
not a big fan of this bill because he thinks
it adds to the debt level. So with that in mind,
whether you agree with that principal or not, he's stuck
to that principle at the at his detriment because now

(25:48):
he's upset Donald Trump's camp. He's probably upset you as
maybe as a former supporter. He's upset the left in
a previous life.

Speaker 13 (25:57):
He's done a good job. I'm not going to go
I'm not going to knock for what he's done his company.
He's he's basically done like nobody else in government. And
your history is buible to come and cut and was like,
if you even hurt half the stuff they were paying
out money to you. I'm in the half four years
in the last business. Let's not say obviously yesterday give
it up to him. But again, man, this is political.

(26:19):
You're not gonna always get what you want, especially in
the first round. And they're trying to bring this saliation
what it was called. When he's taken all their savings,
they're trying to put into law. So obviously there has
to be a bit of a help. And obviously if
he's deleted all his post then obviously it was just
a bit of a hit up moment. He was just
heeded me. Obviously he's come down, probably switch the joint

(26:42):
and figured out.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
He might have woken up the next morning and go, god,
what I went. But I think he's done that. He's
done that a lot of times in his career, hasn't
he The one thing is keeping his thoughts to himself
has not been a big part of his career.

Speaker 13 (26:58):
I could just say I'm one hundred percent Donald Trump,
President Trump for supported thank you.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I mean up, I'm being honest. That's what I can't
figure out about Musk as I loved his story around SpaceX.
That was a phenomenal story and people said it couldn't
be done, and he did it for the reason that
you said was we need a planet b that he
was so worried about what was going to happen here
to Earth that he needed that company to get up
to Mars and establish another colony, which is fantastic. But

(27:26):
then the the Elon musk that I see on Twitter,
and that's what people love about him, right, is that
you what you see is what you get. There's no
hide in a way like other politicians or other you
know people are the tech leaders in the world, they
tend to have a pr version of them that they portray.

(27:47):
But still I love a lot of what he does.
And then he sends through a tweet and I think, oh, Elon,
come on, but that part of his charm.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right, Yeah, it's chaos. It's absolute chaos. You mentioned the
people at SpaceX, you know, the people working hard at
SpaceX company he's supposed to be running, and then he
threatens to shut down the Dragon. Yeh, it's like, come on,
you know to the guy that's you know, instrumental in
the funding. But I mean, you know, If you actually

(28:19):
want to know what really started this feud, A lot
of it is because Trump shut down What's the guy's
name is, Jared Isaacman. I might have got that name wrong,
who was a very close friend of Elon, wanted to
be the head of NASA, And because the Trump administration
found out that he had received some Democratic donations, that
he just cut him out. And so that made Elon

(28:40):
incredibly angry that from what he had done, what he
thought he had done for Trump, then he'd been paid
back by them refusing to put his guy in charge
of NASA. Right, Okay, on what was what he thought
was spurious political reasons.

Speaker 10 (28:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
So it's complicated.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It is complicated, but love to hear from you. O
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
And this text is really what we're trying to say.
A principle is not a principle unless it costs you
something otherwise it's just words, right, And so Elon Musk's
backing of Trump, rightly or wrongly, cost him a lot
when it came to Tesla, didn't It certainly did YEP
and his popularity with the American people and the people
of the.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
World one hundred percent. It is nineteen to two back
forvery shortly.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk, say'd
be here, Ay.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Good afternoon, sixteen two two. And we're talking about Elon
Musk and his principles.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, I disagree, Matt. The definition of a principal person
includes someone who has strong moral beliefs and acts with
fairness and responsibility. Having a number of children, with a
number of women and no relationship with some of them
is not morally right, nor responsible or fear to them.
You see, I would agree with you. That would be
one of my principles. I think if you have children,
then you need to be part of their life. Absolutely,

(30:02):
so I would agree with your principle there. But that's
not obviously not one of Elon Musk's principles. But is
willing to risk a lot for his principles. And one
of his principles is that we need to populate the world.
And so personally he's had fourteen kids, well he's been
involved in fourteen kids. Easy for a billionaire, yep, very

(30:24):
easy to have just blast out fourteen kids or you know,
be involved in forteen kids.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
He can afford them, He can afford them. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
But yeah, obviously it's not one of his principles that
you need to be around and he seems to be
spending a lot of time with Little X, but it's
obviously not one of his principles that you need to
be around in every kid's life.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yep, exactly in this text here is apparently Elon is
a savant, would explain his amazing mind, but he is
not so hot on social skills. Ideas with unwavering obsession
can make it hard when that, oh, when others don't
believe in that particular vision that's from him.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I'll tell you what's very interesting as how much the
you know, Hollywood has shifted on Elon Musk. He was
the absolute darling. He was on every show when he
was seemed to be aligned with Hollywood values and like,
for example, what about the episode of The Simpsons, The
Musk Who Fell to Earth. The Simpson's a very left

(31:21):
leaning show. They used to absolutely love Elon Musk.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
It a being with intelligence far beyond ours. Give me
by baseball band, Hello, I'm Elon Musk. The pass to
be the greatest living inventor. You're the guy who put
wheels on luggage.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Bless you, bless you.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I'm not that guy. If you're interested, you could come
to the nuclear plant where I work tomorrow. I am,
and I will if anyone ask where I am, just
cover for me. Man, I wish those were white meatballs.
That's an idea, white meatballs, synthetic meat that you can
print in your printer.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Come on, keep throwing things at me, but.

Speaker 16 (32:00):
Sure you know who that is?

Speaker 17 (32:01):
A man who's revolutionized the car industry.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Every food good to see it?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
One thing too many? Exactly what if we made the
cream cup out of sugar so it dissolved in the coffee?
WHOA Between your genius and my nothing, we make a
great team.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah. So he probably won't be on The Simpsons again anytime.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
So no, you know you've made it when you met
on the Jade.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (32:26):
Yay?

Speaker 9 (32:26):
How are we going?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Very good? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 19 (32:30):
Look, I've been following Mask and I guess while US
politics fans for a couple of years now. In one
of the podcasts I look forward through every weekend as
they are on podcast, there has potentially four billion years
that are now very very close to Washington.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Funny enough, Sorry, what was that?

Speaker 20 (32:46):
So?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
What was that podcast called Jade? I just missed that.

Speaker 21 (32:50):
Sorry, the all In podcasts All In podcast the number one. Yeah,
funny enough.

Speaker 19 (32:56):
They didn't release an episode last weekend, as I probably
think they're probably under the damage control at the moment,
and they're both very close to Trump and must However,
I guess what's all this sort of going on? I
suppose the question to ask, is you know with you know,
I guess a special company that must have formed in
order to create such large donations to lobby the government.

(33:19):
It just goes to show, I guess the level of
potential corruption that could happen when the private state or
private sector gets involved with the public sector. Now, don't
get me wrong very for what Doge and what Elin
have done with the current current administration, but it seems
as Fiord's been laying on a whole bunch of laying

(33:41):
on a whole bunch of favors and expectations.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, I mean, as I was saying before, the person
that being appointed to NASA has been a big sticking
point for him, So you could look at it that way.
That he thought he would have more influence in that
area than he did for what he spent. Yeah, and
that is a problem, isn't it If you can, if
you can buy influence, which, of course American politics is

(34:05):
all about buying influence, isn't it with the super acts.

Speaker 21 (34:10):
Well, yes, that's correct.

Speaker 22 (34:11):
Hasn't always been that.

Speaker 19 (34:12):
Way, And you know the way that the US government
set up, you know, the split of power between Congress,
the Senate, and the administration branch's supposed to have be
a power check, but it's seemingly that the private sector
is getting more and more influenced, which you know should
should be removed from politics to sitt degree.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent there.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, but is that I mean, there's always been, as
you say, Matt, there's always been lobbying behind the scenes.
And there's a couple of very famous brothers in America
who never talked to journalists, theak Brothers. Yeah, so they
never talk to journalists. They keep their head down and
for you know, smart reasons, because they don't want to
be known. But they spend a massive amount of money
lobbying and getting people elected in America.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well, there's a lot of billionaires on both sides. Isn't
there this cuban on the other side principles and morals?
He's an eccentric got sucked in t Trump who has neither,
and when the liaison hit his businesses, he bowed not
worth worth talking about Only in America. I think it's
absolutely worth talking about him, thoroughly enjoying the chat, as
is the huge amount of people texting and calling through
on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I think this is

(35:14):
a good text. Hey, guys, is elon the Prince that
principle about populating the earth or is he just using
it as an excuse to be a keyless shagger?

Speaker 7 (35:23):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Maybe, Yeah, I'm not convinced all of those impregnations are
happening in.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Just to keep the population high.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, this is a real test tube vibe to the
way he's true populating the world.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,
love your thoughts. It is ten to two.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams. Afternoons
News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
News Talks, EDB it is eight to two and we're
talking about Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, I'm not sure if people really got to the
got the understanding what we were trying to say. Elon
Musk has principles that's clear, whether you agree with them
or not. He is willing to sacrifice a lot for
those principles, and hence his current arguments with Trump around
debt in America and the big beautiful Bill. But you know,
he's willing to spend a lot more than Twitter's worth

(36:17):
because he believed in free speech.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
But look, there's anything to do with Elon and Trump.
It's hard to discuss nuance. It inflames people when you
say those two names, and difficult to get it to
the nuance of a discussion.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Love the conversation. Hey guys, most people don't know, but
Tesla is lining up for a global transport solution that
sell self driving cars that can be used privately. But
when you are not using your car, you can nominate
the car to be self driving taxi service. If you're
an uber driver, expect that within five to ten years
you will no longer have a job. Elon has a
big plan for transport on the adoption of AI and
given his mind, he will achieve it. Elon Musk is

(36:54):
definitely a candidate, says this text, for to be the Antichrist.
The telling point will be if he rules the world.
As per predictions of the Antichrist during the Biblical Tribulations,
the Antichrist is predicted to rule the world for three
and a half years. All right, there you go. So
there's some varying opinions here, yep, Elon, here we go.
Elon wanted the Dome Defense contract so he could learn

(37:16):
how to take the entire world hostage and rule the world.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yes, wow, okay, okay, well this one here, geta guys.
The work Elon has started with Doge is amazing, and
the Dems hate him for what's going to happen soon enough. Yes,
he is principal because he was a Dem himself but
didn't like what they were doing. That's from John.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I hope they sought things out between him. However, Elon
is a spurges Donald Trump, Whon, a landslade Victorian is
implementing everything he can came on. According to Zebbi's favorite Sourcena,
Trump's ratings are right up there over fifty five percent,
while the Dems are lower than ever before. Cheers Dave, Yes,
so so many man Elon. If one does nothing, that's interesting.

(37:56):
If one does nothing, then you will never do wrong.
If you do lots, bound to get a few moments wrong. Also,
we all see right differently. I mean, that's kind of
my point. My point is you might not agree with
his principles, but he definitely is willing to sacrifice a
lot for them.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Absolutely, thank you very much for that discussion. Very interesting,
and thank you to the hundreds who takes through.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, so we couldn't get to everyone. Good so much
absolutely so much feedback. But we're going to put this
topic to bed.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
We certainly are because after two o'clock, and this is
going to be an interesting discussion. Gen X's they are
worried about their jobs. They're having to upskill and change
careers later in life because of technology coming into the
creative industry. So we want to have a chat to
you about when you change careers, how did you do it?
How did your upskill? The weight hundred?

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, and is gen X the best generation?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I think we are. I think we are millennials, someone said,
and I think that's what I am. Not quite millennial,
not quite gen x bang in the middle.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I thought you were a boomer.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
One hundred eighty ten eighty feel like it. Sometimes it
is five minutes to two back very shortly. Here on Newstalks,
it'd be.

Speaker 18 (39:30):
And I'm too pussy, and then I'm just going clean.
Told me to get a job, and yours a lie anything,
and I'm too perve, so I open lighting loud.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I want to be me and that not a loud,
and I'm too lad.

Speaker 18 (39:50):
And then I'm just saying you hate it when I'm
crying that that time fun and I'm too pert.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
So I'll show you that I'm known a thousand people
like a leaving.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, you know, talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt

(40:27):
Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons used.

Speaker 23 (40:30):
Talk z B.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.
It is seven past two and this hour is going
to be very very interesting. But before we get that,
I saw you eating something.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Can I just say what a great New Zealand to
hear the duper c Ellen it's already Not only is
she the Sir Paul Holmes broadcast of the year, but
she also bought a bucket of KFC into it.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
A massive bucket of checking for her and her team,
and she I didn't even think.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
It was for her.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
It was just for her team.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I hope some of it was for me because I
grabbed something that maybe it wasn't for me.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I think the offer was on the table, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I'm part of her team, aren't they? But I was
blund part of the wider z B team. If there's
a bucket of KFC, I'm allowed.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
To some chicken for one check for all? I say?
But what blew me away? And people who listen to
Heather's show. No one of her producers, she calls the
German Laura. She's very very good, never tried KFC in
her life.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, positive reviews too.

Speaker 15 (41:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
So if there's any sort of technical hitch ups, hiccups
this ideas because of putting greasy fingers all over the
my cost moral studio.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Oh no, Mike, it's not going to be happy with that.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
So much grease on the buttons.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I can see it dripping on the disk as well. Right, anyway,
this is going to be a good discussion changing careers.
So gen x is are the latest generation to find
themselves having to change careers or upskill and new areas
because of new technology. So creative careers like advertising, magazine, publishing,
graphic design, music, film, TV, et cetera. They are fast changing.
We all know that, and workers are finding their skills

(41:54):
are becoming obsolescent. So that's what we want to have
a chat about.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Is obsolete in a word? Just before I jump onto
the before nine nine two, skew as you obsolete? Did
you mean their careers becoming obsolescent? No, that is definitely
a word. That's the become obsolescent.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah, okay, becoming obsolete. Sorry, they are obsolescent.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, their jobs are becoming obsolete nine two nine two.
Someone will three of us personifying their jobs. If you're
saying they're becoming obsoletent obsolescent anyway, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
It are their skills becoming obsolete. And that's what we
want to have a chat about. But you also want
to back up your generation. You are ANIXA.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, I want to talk about the Gen X generation
as a whole, because I think we're an incredible generation.
I think that like we battled through having to smoke
cigarettes right through our late teens and through our twenties
because we were really the last generation to really lean
into cigarette.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Do we thank you for that?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Is that that's a possible before they became too expensive. Also,
the food pyramid was round the wrong way for us.
That was confusing, absolutely round the wrong way. We were
stitched up. It was if you were eating mac and cheese,
you you were basically a dietary hero when I was
growing up, a huge pile of white bread, butter and jam. Yeah,

(43:08):
you were basically living the absolute most pure, clean living life.
And if you wash that down with a glass of RaRo,
that was your that was your fruit. Yah, and you
were fine. It kept you going though, didn't that's wild.
I don't know if it was a good school and
it can go. And we grew up with no internet
and no cell phones, yep, and so we remember an
era before that. We we we rode the change. And

(43:31):
I just think that we are the greatest generation of
all time, the best movies ever made in our time,
the best. That's about it.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I'm just trying to think, Hey, Citizen King was pretty good.
That's right up there, Citizen generation.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
You can stick rose, but up you whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
So O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If
if you want to have a bit of a generation
will We're up for it.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, but that's not really what we're talking about. We
want to talk about changing careers and are you worried
about it? Have you managed to successfully change careers as
as your career has either become obsolete or not financially
viable anymore? You know, where are you at? And look,
I think I think right now gen X straddled a

(44:16):
really really huge change, and I think there's about to
be We're in the middle of another massive change with
the AI revolution as well, Yeah, which is taking away
more and more jobs.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Because how do you figure out what skill to go for?
I think that's the tough element now is where do
you upskill what is going to be a skill that
is almost future proof? That's the real difficult thing at
the moment, right is. I know a lot of friends
who they are a bit over their career and they
can foresee that it's not going to be around forever.
So they want to change and they want to upskill,

(44:48):
maybe even go back to UNI, but they can't figure
out what to do. So love to hear from you. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you've managed to change career. In your thirties, forties, fifties,
What did you change into how did you do it?
And if you've managed to upskill, how did you go
about that?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeap, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It's twelve.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Can you change careers in your fifties?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call,
Oh eight hundred eighty gen eighty news Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Very good afternoon, Tue fourteen past two. And we're talking
about changing careers later in life in your forties or fifties.
A lot of Gen X are looking to do that now.
They are in jobs where their skills are becoming obsolete
more and more and are now having to look at
upskilling and changing career. So really keen to have a
chat to you if you've been in that situation. Oh,

(45:42):
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Plenty of teps coming
through this one, says Matt. We were, as in Gen
X as the last generation to know what boredom was
and how to navigate by doing stupid stuff like jumping
anything on a bicycle.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, I agree with that. Boredom is a superpower. If
you can get bored and will motivate you to do
great things. Yeah, I think it was a huge advantage
growing up as I did on the farm. I mean
I used to I'm not want to just tell these
boring old stories. But on the on the farm, we
had a big forest, right, and I was so bored
that I'd push my BMX up the scravel road. It

(46:18):
would take me an hour and a half to push
it up the road, and then I'd ride it down
through the trees like I was on in Star Wars,
and then I'd turn around and push it all the
way up again.

Speaker 15 (46:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
It sounds like a fun ride on the way down.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
That was an amazing ride, But there was a lot
of effort to get back up every time. And I'd
do that all day every day. And I think now
if I grew up, the entertainment would be too good
and I would just be on my phone.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
So it's actually actually a pretty that that being able
to be bored was actually you don't know it at
the time, but that is actually a real blessing.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I agree. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty CE
number to.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Call Malcolm, Welcome to the show. Oh, sorry, their phone's
still not working properly. Malcolm. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (46:59):
How are you going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So
my question that I put to the Fall was upskilling
is not necessarily everyone's what everyone wants, you know, in fact,
down skilling, but just taking on it easier responsibility is

(47:20):
sometimes has a lot of health benefits if nothing else.
You know, the high stress, high pressure jobs are not
everyone's cup of tea.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
It's a fair point, is that what you did, Malcolm.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
Well, I used to run a engineering workshop was you know,
the boss was the only one above me, but it
was it was high pressure ish, not too bad. I'd
still do it now if the place hadn't gone under,
still be there.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
But you know, I do know.

Speaker 12 (47:49):
You know a lot of these people that are under
high pressure you think, why the hell do you do it?
And as far as money goes, you know a lot
of these brick layers for instance, even hammer hands, and
you know in the industry building that they end up
getting as much money as anyone else anyway. So it's
you know, and you can just go to work and
do your job and you've got a.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Wonder Yeah, it's still quite a transition though, Malcolm, isn't it.
I mean, I agree with you that more and more
people are looking at perhaps quite a stressful career in
saying this is killing me and I need to get
out of this and going to do something that doesn't
pay as much. It might have better hours, but that's
still a transition to make in terms of a career.
It might not be technically upskilling, but you've got to

(48:31):
lose some new skills.

Speaker 12 (48:33):
Oh definitely. And that's I think a lot of people
might be well, actually, I've got a daughter at sixteen,
and she's heading towards you Yukole at the moment, heading
towards the building career. But she has actually had a
lot of people disit and say, oh, why do you
want to do that?

Speaker 24 (48:49):
You know?

Speaker 12 (48:50):
But the thing with a builder's career as an engineer
by trade, which was actually a very difficult trade to
become a self employed person because it involved a lot
of machinery builders with stuff in a van, you know,
I know, not hundreds, but many builders, and that they
can in quite good money and employee people quite easily.

(49:12):
And I think that's another thing. That's what I've told
the daughter to look at it, because she can you know,
she's a lot, so you don't want to do that.
You end up with a broken back and all that
sort of stuff. But I just see it as a
good thing that you can employ someone.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, speak speaking of stress though, I think you know,
I've got a bunch of friends that you know, run
construction companies or you know small you know, small building operations,
and the stress that they go through. I marvel that
they survive. But you know, as jobs blow out and
the quoting and the having to decide whether you're going

(49:46):
to take this job, because a whole lot of jobs
can be coming in, but you sometimes have to just
make that hardcore and not take that big money because
you've got to finish the job you're doing. And you know,
the pressure that comes from employing people and worrying about
keeping them working. And I think that is that that
can be a very high, high pressure position to be in.

Speaker 12 (50:07):
Yeah, that's probably a different level. I'm thinking just that
the one man band type. You know, I know a
lot of people to build their own houses. So the
biosection build a house and you know, it's cut and dried,
really and as far as I'm pouring people that they
get people on labor only sort of thing, and you know,
they sort of pay their own tax and that sort
of stuff, and that's sort of easy as far as

(50:29):
I can see. I have done it myself a bit
building project lot a lot easier than going to the man,
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
So just just sewing Malcolm, what generation are you?

Speaker 12 (50:39):
Uh, I'm sixty.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, so I think you just sneak in on Gen
X outer end of gen X. Yeah, I say that
was love, Malcolm.

Speaker 12 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I personally probably would have rather
been I don't know if I was eighty now, I
probably would have been in a better working environment. You know,
you go back a bit further, things are easier, you know,
especially with the evaluation of everything just going skyrocket. If
you go probably go back thirty years really when things

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were accessible more.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You just don't want to go back so far that
you end up fighting in the trenches. That's the track. Yeah,
definitely not thank if you call me, I can appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you've changed careers later in life. Love to
hear from you. How did you do it?

Speaker 11 (51:28):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
I mean, it must be scary That's what I'm thinking
here with some of these stories about the Gen x's
who are having to change careers now that they've done
the one job for all of their career, and now
they're faced with being effectively forced to find a new job, right,
a new career and upskill. That's a frightening position to be.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
In with a mortgage hanging over your head. You're still
looking supporting your children, you know, and then the career
you've been in just disappears in a puff of smoke.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah, if you managed to navigate that. Love to hear
from you. Oh eight hundred eighty teen eighty is the
number to call twenty past two.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight hundred
on news Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Good afternoon. We're talking about changing careers later in life.
Gen X is the latest generation to have to face that.
Many of them have been in the same creative jobs
for most of their working life, and now, due to
technology and the changing nature of those industries, they're faced
with having to change jobs and upskills. I love to
hear from you on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty
quick text to you, guys. I'm about to turn forty

(52:32):
and just starting a job getting back on the horse
after being made redundant seven months ago. It seems your
path is formed once your past late thirties almost impossible
to earn a scent outside of your usual industry.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Right at what age? Did they say that?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Just about to turn forty? So they were made redundant
seven months ago and they're saying it seems your path
is formed once your past late thirties almost impossible to
earn a scent outside of your usual industry.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
It's really tough to go one hundred and eighty ten
eighty after forty Have you found a new career and
turn things around?

Speaker 8 (53:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Michael Hill Jilla did?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
He said he did.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Michael Hill Julia didn't start Michael held Jeweller's until he
was in his forties.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
You've practiced that. That's very good.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
He's been very successful, isn't he? He has started at
school at age forty seven after twenty five years civil engineering,
took seven years working as a BT to Matt salary
of twenty years earlier the UK forty seven.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Love that Oh, eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call Ian?

Speaker 14 (53:29):
How are you okoday, guys. I'm now seventy two and
two years ago my job was close to twenty three
years became redundant due to restructure. Are used to sell advertising,
but I actually all changed unders and new owner that

(53:50):
owned it, and the change times don't good at Oh.
I know, I got a technology the stars computers to
concern the mouths of tools of my trade. And I
was wholly successful at that for close to twenty three years.
But that's all this three now, So there we go.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
I suppose and what age did you face that redundancy.

Speaker 14 (54:12):
In seventy or seventy one? The Christmas Christmas twenty twenty four?

Speaker 24 (54:20):
Was that?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Was that hardman? I think yeah, yeah, And I think
most most people would understanding that at seventy that would
be hard to change careers or to upscale or to
get into a different industry. I mean many many people
do it.

Speaker 14 (54:32):
I'm not Yeah, that's right, you're on the button. I'm
not going to get a job now. I have tried,
but there's no one interested. So I mean, And Cristal
was a follow for already newspaper, right he is, So
I suppose and you have to accept it.

Speaker 24 (54:51):
But I.

Speaker 14 (54:55):
Was learning too lively. It was quite handy to put
doubt it one or is bit harder but difficult?

Speaker 8 (55:00):
You know?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, absolutely rough, Hey, fellas. At thirty eight years old,
I joined the Fire and Emergency in New Zealand as
a fire I fight. I previously owned a bar for
fourteen years. Best decision I've ever made.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
That is fantastic, thirty eight years.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
So let's just work out exactly where gen X is
what is jen x, because this is what we're talking
about here. We want to talk to all generations. We're
not We're not just exclusive to the millennials just as well,
we're not just exclusive to the best generation yep, So
we'll talk to other generations as well. Sixty five to
nineteen eighty. If you're born between sixty five and nineteen eighty,
you are. You are a heroic gen xer.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Pip, you had a bit of a change at fifty one, yes.

Speaker 22 (55:42):
Hi, I know.

Speaker 16 (55:43):
I was at banking forever like twenty plus years, and
then I am my business for a little while, and
now I work as a wholesale on the signage industry
and it's a completely new industry and I'm learning hate
and I love it. I probably love it more than
I did thanking. It's great people, and I'm twenty one
and I'm in the middle of menopause.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
I don't remember.

Speaker 16 (56:03):
Anything, but I'm learning hate from there. So these people
that are texting saying changed skills, they need to look
at themselves.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty rough to give up at forty.
I mean you should. I mean, Lewis Hamilton's over forty
and he's still worsing. If won you know, you can't.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder. Yeah, I'm just having a We
look back at their texts and and you're right, they
can absolutely learn new skills. But I wonder if they
they say that they weren't given a fear go after
forty did you find you were given a fear go
when you wanted to jump through?

Speaker 16 (56:42):
Given a fear go?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Totally?

Speaker 16 (56:44):
There was one hundred and ten people that applied to
the job Widelife for I got it, so, you know,
and I was up against people that were already from
within the industry. So you've just got to back yourself.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah right, So, so Papa, I just missed. How come
your banking career ended?

Speaker 16 (57:00):
Oh because I got sick of it?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Oh, you got sick of it right, you were you were?
You went moved on by technology or.

Speaker 16 (57:05):
Something totally by choice, Yeah, and just going to meetings
and city like, I didn't love it anymore. I'd worked
some incredible employers that are amazing, but when you fall
out of love with it, you just kind of got
to go and do something else.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, And why signage? What drew you to signage?

Speaker 16 (57:23):
Oh god, it's a very long story, but I hasn't.
I relocated and I went to it for a sign
shop in the regions. They're an amazing employer. So when
we came back to Auckland, I just wanted to stay
within the same industry.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Good on your part. Appreciate it. Ladistixsas he graduated with
a medical degree at thirty eight. Never too late.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Yeah, I mean that is phenomenal to go and get
a medical degree in your in your thirties. But I
suppose what's the average length of time to get a
medical degree about eight years? So if you started at thirty,
is that about right?

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Takes ages, boy boy.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
If you want to specialize, then then it blows out
of it, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
My dad was still at union when he's thirty. Yeah,
but he did a lot of different upscaling of as.
I think he might have got two PhDs anyway.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Right, okay, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Hey guys at age forty six, I got made redundant
from agricultural retail. Have been X raying bags at the
airport for nineteen years.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Right, do you like it?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Got as agricultural retail into X raying bags?

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Okay? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty found anything cool? Yeah,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
I've got a text here that I've just spotted or
read it out after the headline slightly controversial, but we'll
get to that very shortly. Headlines with rayling coming up.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Oh yeah, look at this. This is yeah, we'll read
that out.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Slightly nasty as a career in who.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
You talk?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Said the headlines with.

Speaker 11 (58:47):
Blue bubble taxis, it's no trouble with a blue bubble
climate Activists turned Palestine supporter Greta Turnberg says her aide
Flatterda to Gaza, has been kidnapped by Israel.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
She's posted a video.

Speaker 11 (59:00):
Begging supporters to precious Sweden's government to secure their release.
A christ Church corporal accused of covertly filming women during
sexual encounters. Has pleaded not guilty in a court martial today,
claiming he had consent. A thirty nine year old man's
turned himself into police and been charged over an alleged

(59:20):
hit and run on Auckland's north shore yesterday in which
two women and their dogs were injured. Protests continue into
a third day in La over raids and deportations of
undocumented migrants. Video showing car's burning in the streets. Donald
Trump sent in two thousand National Guard troops. The Reserve

(59:41):
Banks again delayed releasing explanations over former Governor Adriannall's abrupt
departure in March, Why charities tax got kicked into touch
and what it means for New Zealand. You can find
out more at Anzet Herald Premium. Now back to Matt
Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about changing careers
later in life, in your forties or fifties, or indeed
in your late thirties as well. Gen ex As are
the latest generation to be facing that I've worked the
same job for most of their career, and creative industries
like magazine publishing newspaper, journalism, photography, graphic design, advertising, music, film, TV,
et cetera. And now because of technology and the fast

(01:00:20):
changing nature of those industries, they are having to face
upskilling and changing careers and it's very difficult for a
lot of people. So if you've navigated that'd love to
hear from you on Oh eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty I have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Till the end of last year, I was a breakfast
music radio host for eleven years and now look at you.
Oh now, I've moved one hundred meters to a mic
upstairs for I'm a news talk zb talkback cast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
You have had a lot of jobs in your life though, Man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Oh yeah, I was just writing a list of my jobs.
I might I might share those, Yes, I might. Dave welcome, Dave,
Welcome to the show. How are you How? You doing
very good? Better since we've heard from you, Dave, of
course you have, of course you are.

Speaker 21 (01:01:02):
Hey, Hey, look I've had I had a ton of jobs.

Speaker 22 (01:01:05):
Man, I'm sixty four now and I've had I've had
fantastic careers.

Speaker 21 (01:01:11):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:01:12):
I started my recal career eight years ago and it's
been fantastic, and it's fantastic and but I you know,
early two thousands, I've spoken around the world on yachts
and cruise ships, and you know, my philosophy in life
has always been live your life for like a cocktail straw,
you know, be able to flex and bend. And you

(01:01:33):
see the problem is with a lot of men, particularly
men in New Zealand and Australia and a lot of places,
we get tied in, We get we get warriored hard
into this this mindset where we can't.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
We can't move around, we can't be like a cocktail straw.

Speaker 22 (01:01:49):
And life is too bloody short to not to not
be out there and enjoying what there is, you know,
the on offer, and there's tons of things on offer, mate,
don't limit yourself. I mean, you know, I just I've
just enjoyed my life. But I left scot fifteen was
a farm cadet and I've gone a thousand miles from
that now.

Speaker 10 (01:02:09):
But you know I had loved it.

Speaker 22 (01:02:10):
But I'm in a totally different world corporate blah blah blah.
But you know, you know I'm still going, mate, I'll
just care, carry on and.

Speaker 25 (01:02:21):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
It's a good attitude. Dave but you know, thinking about
my own situation some of my friends. When you've been
in the same industry for most of your career, it's
it's shit scary to think about doing something different, you know,
because you are. You have got to think about am
I gonna have enough money? Am I going to bring
enough money in to support my family? Am I going

(01:02:42):
to be able to pay the mortgage? You know, all
those things that you've got responsibility for later in life.
To then think about changing career or doing something different,
that's a massive consideration, isn't it. It is, it is, Tyler.

Speaker 22 (01:02:55):
But look, look end of the day, my friend, it's
all you know, your oxygen mask has got to be
on first, and that is the truism of life. If
your oxygen mask is not on, if you're not looking
after yourself and you and it sounds a bit selfish,
but dude, you've got to You've got to do what's
right for you, because if you're not doing what's right
for you, and that that means changing your job, changing

(01:03:15):
the color of your here, whatever, then no one around
you is going to benefit from that.

Speaker 15 (01:03:20):
Family.

Speaker 21 (01:03:21):
Your friends, I mean, mortgage.

Speaker 22 (01:03:22):
Payments, all that sort of stuff. They can all all
be resolved really easily, you know, but we get stuck
into this trap.

Speaker 21 (01:03:30):
I've got to be this person I've got to be.

Speaker 22 (01:03:33):
I've got to be you know, the father figure, the
boyfriend or whatever the case may be. But end of
the day, you've got in life. You've got to do
what's what, what really motivates you, what excites you, and
what is it all about you? Then your your family,
your mom, your dad, your kids, whatever the case may be,
they will benefit from that. And stick your oxygen mask

(01:03:55):
on first, mate, and you know, you know that's the
way life should be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Just describe exactly what do you mean by stick your
oxygen mask on first, grig.

Speaker 22 (01:04:06):
So so you know, think about think about when you
get on a plane when they tell you to put
your oxygen mask on first before you put your children's.
And the reason for that is obvious, right you can't.
You're not good to anyone if you're not safe, if
you're not breathing, if you're not you know, like, if
that life force is not going through you, and that

(01:04:27):
that you strapolate that out to your life you're living
because if your oxygen mask is not on, who the
hell is going to benefit?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I love that you know, Yeah, good analogy that I
love that.

Speaker 22 (01:04:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:04:40):
So I'm writing a book.

Speaker 22 (01:04:41):
It's called The Oxygen Mark Theory. It'll be out shortly
all good bookstores.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I yeah, very good. In some cocktail straw analogies in
there as well. Place you can you can you stretch
that out to two undred eighty eight pages made.

Speaker 21 (01:04:54):
I've got made do it. You can do war and please.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Thank you're called Greg. I mean be a cocktail straw.
Oh was that Dave?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
My phone was telling me Greg. Yeah, sorry, Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Sorry Dave. The phone system is doing something crazy today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
And I love Dave and I've called him Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
He's still there. He accepts it, dn't you Dave?

Speaker 10 (01:05:14):
Dave?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Mate, I'm sorry I called you Greg.

Speaker 20 (01:05:17):
You can call me Bob if you want.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Okay, Bob, we'll get you on, get you on each Monday. Dave,
you're just full of full of positive energy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I'm going to get the name right from when the
book comes out, so I know no to buy.

Speaker 22 (01:05:27):
It, said brother.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yea, all right, dahnd be a cocktail straw. But you've
got to ask who's sucking on the straw. That's the
most important question in life.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Yeah, You're just going to have to Readay's book, aren't you.
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you've changed career later in life.
Love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Twenty one to three, the issues that affect you, and
a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons ECUs Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
It is nineteen to three, So we're talking about gen
X and the changes that are happening to careers for
gen X's as AI comes in. Technology changes can be
very different from what you started studying in the nine tease,
the way you started your career. Now, I'm gonna play
some audio here, which is the ultimate gene X movie audio?

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Are you ready for it? A radio from nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 26 (01:06:21):
God damn it? An entire generation pumping gags, waiting tables,
the slaves with white collars. Advertising has just chasing cars
and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy
shit we don't need for the middle children of history man.

Speaker 24 (01:06:38):
No purpose of place. We have, no great war, no
great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our
great depression.

Speaker 26 (01:06:48):
It's our lives all been raised on television to believe
that one day we'd all be millionaires in movie gods
and rock stars.

Speaker 21 (01:06:56):
But we won't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
We're slowly learning that fact.

Speaker 24 (01:07:01):
We're very, very pissed off.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, what a great monologue.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
That's right. Fight Club, what a great movie, one of
my favorite of all time, and also a great book
from Chack pollionac. But yeah, I mean that's that sum up.
The gen X's the middle, the middle children of history, A.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Little bit last, little bit angry. The number to call Greg,
Welcome to the Shaw.

Speaker 21 (01:07:26):
You know, guys meet You can call me Dave if
you want.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I don't mind, Well, thanks for calling Dave.

Speaker 21 (01:07:35):
Scooled in the late eighties and went to the printing
industry and man, what well changes that sort of went
over the years and end up owning my own finding
factory for commercial printers. So yeah, and the and the
two thousands of global financial classis certain my factory, I
had thirty eight printers that were companies commercial printers, and

(01:07:57):
six months later he was ten of them left because
of the just technology and the destination of Yeah, it
was just just the printing industry teamed upside down and
the big boys bought the little boys, and.

Speaker 20 (01:08:09):
The work just slowly it dried up.

Speaker 21 (01:08:11):
And one of our biggest jobs was so when you
when your company was a certain size, you had to
print five hundred in your reports to give to all
the shareholders and things like that. And that was probably
seventy five percent of our work. And one day the
poloitician turned up and said, you don't have to do
that anymore. They're going online.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Right, just just did you have any incline that that
was coming that did did you see this coming down
the train?

Speaker 21 (01:08:38):
You could sort of know it was going to happen
one day, but it happened so fast. Yeah, that was
that was ridiculous. You know, didn't really have time to
plan for it so much. But I managed to hang
on for a while, but sort of hit to start
thinking about what I can do. So I decided I
needed to do something that I enjoy. And I was
always good with my hands, always good at woodworking and
things like that. So I just ended up buying a

(01:08:59):
handyman franchise and now I just sort of suck in
my own houses. I flipped on for everybody else and
sort of really enjoy it. Get time to listen to
you guys, and my headphone Ronald Day and put around
helping people. So it sort of worked out at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Yeah, so did with that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Was that a that would have been a financial hit though?
Was it so a financial a spiritual game.

Speaker 21 (01:09:23):
Exactly? I had I sold up the company for a
dollar basically minister all my debts, working for one of
the big companies for a few years to just sort
of re establish myself and then yeah, I mean you
can make good money doing what I do now if
you're if you're good, you've go to work really really hard.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
Was it not so good?

Speaker 21 (01:09:45):
Yeah, from all the years in the factory, but we're no,
I'm enjoying it. I really enjoy it.

Speaker 11 (01:09:52):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Was it a risk originally? Great to buy the franchise,
which I imagine is a bit of capital, so a
bit of savings invested in there. You're not quite sure
initially how it's going to go. That must have been
quite a bit of nerves when you first died that.

Speaker 21 (01:10:06):
Yeah, but I've been sort of being self and and
so just been self employed most of my life. It's
always new, you know, when you're living on the head.
So to be honest, I didn't have the cash, but
I just put it on the mortgage just when house
prices started to go up, so I had a bit
of capital in the house. I just dropped on that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
So yeah, yeah, Now tell you what, though, Greg, to
be a handyman, you have to be handy, and I
fear for a lot of people, a lot of gen
X is when people stop being handy. Most boom boomers
are pretty handy. Less gen xs are millennials absolutely useless,
uh and and zoomers or whatever. So few of them
can could could transition to helping people fix their houses

(01:10:47):
from whatever career they're now because I've just never would
have learnt those basic skills.

Speaker 21 (01:10:51):
I'm just old enough. We are like here. I tied
its third form typing, and then in the fourth form
was the first of a year that computer studies came out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Typing class.

Speaker 14 (01:11:06):
I wasn't.

Speaker 21 (01:11:07):
I was just where you hit to fetch stuff for yourself.
Yeah you know you didn't really rely on too many people,
didn't You concorded your own driveway, which I did. My
fruous house I either bought, I played eighty eight green time,
I think, and sort of the shell and then you
build everything around it where now you buy a whole
complete house. And yeah, people wouldn't know what end of

(01:11:28):
a concert. Much of it was from the other So
I think I was lucky in that regard. But you're
still gonna be handy.

Speaker 10 (01:11:33):
Yeah, what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Good demand out there for that, Greg Yeah, absolutely, this
text to see is okay, guys. I used to manage
a tire store, even won a few awards for sales.
But three years ago, at the age of fifty seven,
after thirty two years, I'd had a guts full of
being told how to do my job by people half
my age it head office. Since then, I have mowed lawns,
worked on a farm, and now deliver firewood. I have

(01:11:55):
loved all of these jobs. It is possible. Just make
a decision, Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Yeah, people should watch that movie Office Space. It's a
fantastic movie, Mike Judge movie. And he's working in an
annoying office job and slow stress, and then he gives
up and just goes goes to work, back to working
with his hands, that's right, and finds happiness.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, David, you were made redundant.

Speaker 7 (01:12:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 15 (01:12:20):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
Yeah, So I've been a carpenter and finally got qualified
and got on off the tools and went into the
education side of and I made some decisions. But yeah,
unfortunately got made redundant and my body is getting a
bit broken at forty seven, and I'm now looking at
getting into the health and safety. I'm starting a qual
in three weeks and so hopefully leading something else. So

(01:12:41):
hopefully it can make work site. It says a lot safer,
work sites a lot safer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
How are you feeling about it change, David?

Speaker 15 (01:12:48):
Have you nervous?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Yeah, they're nervous.

Speaker 15 (01:12:51):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
It's a good thing though, because my son struggles at
school a bit as well, So you know, I'm explaining
to him that Dad's going back to school. Yeah, you know,
just shows that education is actually important.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, and so yeah, looking down the future, did you
feel how did you feel when that that that other
career finished?

Speaker 8 (01:13:09):
Did it hurt?

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Hurt?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah? Yeah, that my mental health badly. And how long
did it take you sort of to find a way forward?

Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
Well, it was October. I got made redundant, and you
know it's still affected me now, but you know, I'm
doing something about it and moving forward.

Speaker 8 (01:13:27):
Was it?

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
And and the previous guy like that put your mask
on first? And yeah, I'm a massive believer in that
myself actually like that that one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Yeah, that is good, isn't it. And so you've got
your kid, so that's a huge motivation to sort your
your situation out and do a difficult thing.

Speaker 9 (01:13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
Yeah, my body is pretty broken now. I think I've
just damaged my toe as well a sore shoulder which
I wait to see a specialist about. So you know
it's time to get off the tools and that you
do something else about it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
And how did you get into the study aspect?

Speaker 11 (01:13:59):
Was that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
You know, how long did that take you to study out?

Speaker 7 (01:14:04):
Well, just just starting the qualification for that one. In
the last three years i've been she managed to achieve
quite a few qualifications through my employers and things like that,
which is really good. And it's I've achieved more Master
of Years than I sort of really ever have in
my life. Yeah, and it's actually started at domino effect.
Now it's what else can I achieve? Obviously I'm doing
it later in life. But having a young son, being

(01:14:25):
an older dad, it's just yeah, I think it's one
of those things reassuring for him that you know, don't
give up, don't just keep that going on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Get on you, David, Yeah, and all the best with
That'll give us a ring back sometime and tell us
how it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Absolutely, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you've changed careers later in life
in your forties, fifties, sixties, love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
You checked out from reading that horrific text.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Oh, I can read it right now if you we'll
come back with it. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I think I think you're.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Standing by It. Just took me ages to censor it,
but I think so it has a go with us,
and I've changed some of the language there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
But well, that's the first person that's ever had to go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Who would have thought but never is coming at us
six months.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
And it's been nothing but niceties of nineteen nine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I read that out the extent as nine to three.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons, U S Talks, B.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
News Talks here B seven to three. Right, I've managed
to try and rewrite this tea. It's still got the
same vibe about it. So I haven't I haven't done
this person of the service, but I just needed to
change some of the language.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Right, please, you've removed the sea words, I assume you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Have from Yeah, there was a lot of yeah, a
lot of sea words in there, and a lot of
words as well. So this is the vibe of it.
You guys are if in numb skulls. Everyone should just
give up, as AI will fast be taking all of
our jobs, no point and up scaling in anything. It's
time we had a regular income from the government for
being human. There's no point anymore. You guys are just
if and morons for even talking about it. Signed by

(01:15:58):
a gen xer. Now he didn't use the word more
on or numb skull.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
I've changed that. But yeah, well, I mean, well just
give up because I mean, you don't know what AI
is going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
It's a been defeatist, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah, I mean people just give up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Yeah, the government, you've got to keep up till.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
You can give up. But I don't know. I don't
know how much money you're going to get from the government.
I'm fifty two this year. I worked for a massive
multinational for twenty three years running a distribution center. I'd
had enough so resigned with nothing planned. Now I'm in
a nineteen ton loader in a sawmill. No managing staff,
no meetings about meetings, no emails. Oh and no mortgage. Okay,

(01:16:34):
well that helps you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Okay, handy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
No mortgage is a handy one in that one. But
that's an uplifting story. I am probably an anomaly. Will
be completing forty years for the same employer in a
few months. Was looking for a change in job when
I turned fifty and was ready to leave, but ended
up in a new role that wasn't customer facing, with flexibility,
work from home. So happy because the company have been
fantastic to work for. That's from Andrea.

Speaker 20 (01:16:56):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
That's someone that is a genics that hasn't had to
change their job.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Love that. And this was a great text as well. Guys,
great topic, thank you. Very interesting that every person saying
you can easily change careers just put your mass gone first,
et cetera. Is a male. I'm a thirty nine year
old female with two young kids a husband. I would
love to join the police. However, being away at college
for three months and being away from family to then
go to shift work and take a pay cut just

(01:17:21):
seems way too hard. Right now, I realize this message
sounds quite negative. Haha. I am usually quite a positive person.
Just the truth and there is something to that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Yeah, well here's a builder here, had a guts full.
I'm going to sell up and start a bar somewhere
in the Mediterranean.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Well there you go, Yeah, tell us that where and when.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
All the best rob Yeah, we'll come over. Go well,
I'll have a peanut Lata and Tyler will have a
Shirley temple.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Right, thank you very What is a Hurley temple? By
the way, is there a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Of whiskey in that? No, that's okay, just a lemonade
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Okay, I'll take it all right, come it up. After
three o'clock, we want to talk about the Sunday roast.
It is back in vogue and we want to chat
with you about what makes the perfect Sunday roast.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
It's a key issue for Kiwi's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
That absolutely is our wait under an eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Andrew is dandy boy, great,
have your company as always, you're listening to met and Tyler.
Good afternoon.

Speaker 18 (01:18:14):
He comes the two of the three of the four
when this last call and he kick it shout at
dark skin kind of lay. But the ladies want some
morn Oh my good lord, gonna drink.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
So I'm gonna put me up a double shadow.

Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
Whist.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
They're on me attack. Dale's got it his free. There's
a part of downtown near Fish Street.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Everybody had the barkeet.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I'm gonna pull me up a double shadow. Listen, they're
on me attack, Dale's got.

Speaker 18 (01:18:44):
You got the bottom level, Botty doll Man, you got
anybody bardet.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Everybody had a barket.

Speaker 22 (01:18:59):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Everybody had the barn.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
You're a new home for insightl and Entertaining Talk. It's
Matt and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Sebby, welcome back into the program. Seven past three. Just
before we talk about the Sunday roast.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah, that's I've got a bit of an apology here
because I laid into millennials. I was really just sort
of trying to lay into Tyler, but there was some
clatter of damage. In this text, it says I'm a
millennial and I disagree with you, Matt, that we're not
good with our hands. We run circles around the old
boys and have a lot more technical ins and outs
that come with our job. That the old boys never
had to deal with cheers lads. Yeah, yeah, No, I

(01:19:39):
mean there's absolutely there's a huge amount of millennials out
there on sites and different walks of life being very handy.
My point was more that, like, my dad is more
practical than me, was really my point. Yeah, and as
a result, my kids aren't as practical as me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Yeah, just a slow e roading of those skills being
handed down.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
It was a factor of how hard it was me
to get me to help on the farm compared to
how hard it was to get for him to be
helped for his dad to get him to help on
the farm, if you know what I mean. Yeah, instead
of building the deck, you preferred to be throwing stones
at trees and riding through you know, riding through trees
like Luke Skywalker.

Speaker 20 (01:20:19):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Watching Rambow First Blood for the four thousandth time on VHS.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
And before that, I said that, not that anyone cares,
but I took the time to write it out, so
I feel like I might as well share it. These
are all the careers that I've had as a genixer.

Speaker 7 (01:20:34):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I started off as a nursery worker, which was basically
shoveling gravel at Donaldson's nursery. Good job, and cutting down
Christmas trees. Yep, that was my first job. Then I
became a record store employee okay, Echo Records and then
Real Groovy Records in Auckland. Then a weirhouse manager, right,
very different, first at Flying Nun Records and then at

(01:20:56):
IHAG Packing Computers, and then I became a fixed assessor
fixed assssor it's when you go round and you find
out the value of things for insurance, right, so you
just find out that said, does how much is this worth?
You know that kind of thing. So it was a
research job yep. Then a stunt TV show producer and
host yep. Then a TV producer, music radio host, animation

(01:21:17):
company director, and now a news talk radio host. So
they look at that, I'm a genix that it's been
all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
What a journey, What a journey. But good for you
to read that out because I could see you working
away on that for the last hour.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Yeah, so I just had to get it out there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Okay, absolutely, Now let's have a chat about the Sunday roast.
It's going to be a great chat. On a recent Sunday,
Dean Thompson found himself doing something he hadn't done in years,
sitting down with his family for a proper Sunday roast. Now,
Dean Thompson here is the hid chef at Schnapper Rock
and tutor car Kapp Snapper Rock, so he knows what
he's talking about. He's also a twenty twenty four Beef

(01:21:51):
and Lamb New Zealand Ambassador chef, so he usually works
at night. But his partner suggested making a Sunday roast
for a weekly ritual, and he said it wasn't just
about the roast, it was about creating a tradition and
experience for the kids where Dad is home at the
table at least once a week, so he's not alone.
Across News Ellen, the once old fashioned Sunday roast is
back on the menu, not as an obligation but as

(01:22:13):
a chosen pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Yes, so it looks and a number of other stories
around about and if you're anywhere near social media, well
if you're in my bubble anyway, there is a whole
lot of Sunday roasting going down a real resurgence. It's
sort of slipped away for a while. It did, but
now it's come back, and sometimes things start happening and

(01:22:35):
it becomes a cultural thing or that's in the zeigeist
and you realize you're doing it, and you wonder whether
there's just a group thing that happens that everyone we're
all sharing a similar experience. We all move to things
at the same time. But I've been moving heavily to
making Sunday roasts for my kids over the last few
months and it's a game changer. So it's so good

(01:22:57):
to get together. You make the food very I think
it's incredible for one of a bit of a word,
mental health. It just feels great to spend the time
cooking the meat, choosing the meat, making everything, putting it together,
working together, getting the Yorkshire pud right, which always turns
into basically for me, just solid whack of pastry. But anyway,

(01:23:19):
that's another The Yorkshire pud oh hard to get right.
You've got to go really hot. Anyway, let's not get
into it. And then sitting down with the family and
eating and it's just with everyone in their phones usually
now when everyone doing other things. Just to force everyone
to get rid of around the table and cook food
together and eat it. Together.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
It's just so gratifying, that big jug of gravy right
in the middle of the table. You go gravy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
And what sort of meat do you go? I mean,
granted you choose the choose the cut, and go down
and decide what kind of roast you're going to have,
but what you go to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Well, you know, this weekend, I roasted up a couple
of chickens.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Yeah, love it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Love a chicken roast, yeah, chicken roast.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
But enough love the chicken RoCE. I'll to a beef yep,
I'll to a lamb yep. You know when I'm doing
the Sunday roast and summer it'll be an ie fill
it on the barbecue. So it's not really but it's
the same same idea.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
You also mentioned earlier in the show that you do
something controversial. I don't want to hear it right now. Yeah,
but we're going to have to get to that. I
don't know what it is to anybody listening.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I'm expecting to lose any respect that anyone has for
me when they find out one of the absolute staples
of a Sunday roast in our house that I will
I will not consider it a Sunday roast until this
is part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
All right, We'll leave that right to the end of
the hour.

Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
There No.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty Do you still do
the Sunday roast and your household? And what makes a
good Sunday roast? Love to hear from you, and if
you want to send a teach more than welcome. Nine
to nine two. It is twelve past three. News Talks
there b. We're talking about the Sunday Roast. Why you
ask is that it's making a bit of a resurgence.
It's coming back into vogue households up and down New

(01:24:52):
Zealand and getting back into the Sunday Roast and hospo
as well. They're loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Matthew, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 25 (01:24:59):
Oh good, A topic very close to my heart.

Speaker 15 (01:25:02):
Guys.

Speaker 25 (01:25:03):
We had a took last night.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Oh yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 25 (01:25:05):
But my family. I a lamb and I love that
little shank that you can get at the end, you know,
when you cook it, you can you can pick that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Up exactly what you mean, exactly what you mean.

Speaker 25 (01:25:16):
That little knucklebe little knuckle juicy, quite controversial, like that's
only like the cook in the bag roe, you know,
and I'm a bit ho I'm about it all. You know,
the these bags that you can get that your little.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Cable ties that you seel up what you mean with
everything in there, including the veg.

Speaker 20 (01:25:37):
No, no, the veg is separate.

Speaker 25 (01:25:39):
The veg is separate. But it is good because it
does make a good gravy. But it doesn't you don't
get the you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Don't get them.

Speaker 21 (01:25:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
I did a chicken in one of those bags once.
Its just the whole thing just seemed a bit moist
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Yeah. I try to do you go, Matthew, and it
falls apart, just like I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Not that hard to roast a chicken. Why do you
need the bag? I mean, it's not it's not exactly
a high level of complexity.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
No, well it doesn't. It can end up pretty perfect
depending on beg you used. But because I do it
in one big tray with the veggies, I find with
the ones in the bag it's too juicy, so all
that juice gets into the vegis and then the veg
just turned to mush. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no good.

Speaker 25 (01:26:21):
And I think I love it. Yam with the yams
with the roast, and I do partner and carrots mashed
with malt vinegar.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Oh jesus, that's crazy talk. Are you Are you cooking those?
Are you cooking those yams up with honey?

Speaker 24 (01:26:37):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:26:37):
I haven't done that one. I haven't done it. I
do like roasting. I do like roasting a bruthels brout too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Yeah, that sounds like you're innovative. It's an innovative roast.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Yeah, my on the roast.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
My roast is handed down from my appearance. Do it
the same as they did it for me? Yeah, you got?

Speaker 25 (01:26:56):
You go with your favorite roast would either be pork
or lamb. Yeah, and then again a glazed A glazed
ham is also very good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Got, you got your You've got potatoes there right obviously,
are you?

Speaker 22 (01:27:11):
Are you?

Speaker 10 (01:27:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
You're boiling those potatoes first before you roast them.

Speaker 25 (01:27:16):
Yeah, yeah, and then putting them in the strainer and
flupping them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Up, and which you attempted to duck fit them metew
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
I did duck that last nights to do studs.

Speaker 25 (01:27:29):
Have you seen the price to duck fed? I want
to chuck it in the pants.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
You may as well cut your own duck I think
at those prices.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Once you start, once you start duck fetting your potatoes,
it's hard to go back a potatoes so disappointing. If
you haven't double coture and D you can't go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's very good.

Speaker 25 (01:27:49):
It's very good. Yeah, I do love.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Oh good on you if you and like so the
family is around for your roast.

Speaker 25 (01:27:56):
Yeah, you know the kids, we get them off the boat.
They're pretty good. And they're not they're not a big
they're not big fans. I'd rather Asian. They go blooding
roads like West and.

Speaker 15 (01:28:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:28:10):
It's also controversial, but.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
There's just a feeling of well being that I believe
comes over you when you've spent some time to prepare
a meal, taking a while, and you serve it to
your family. This just is I just feel so good
for the rest of the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
And you have to be around the table. It's not
something that you can eat on the couch watching TV.
It just doesn't work. You've got to be around the
table with that jug the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Piece goes oh yeah yeah. As a father, do you
when the p goes off the plate? Do you make
the joke? Oh, look, your pete on the table. Do
you make that joke?

Speaker 25 (01:28:45):
I haven't used that one, but yeah you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Will now and then any other dare joke. You say,
it's just give piece a chance, and then it ruins
the dinner for everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Yeah, that's what happened to the Sunday Roast. That's why
it went off, ruined by rubbishags their jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Yeah, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. What makes the perfect roast? The Sunday Roast
is back. Confession If you do it, love to hear
from you. It is nineteen past three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Brian your chicken before you roast it. Your muppets says
this text it Brian a turkey. Yeah, I'll brain a turkey,
but I won't to know. I won't brow a chicken.

Speaker 22 (01:29:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Matd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZVY very good afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
You were talking about the Sunday roasted is back in
vogue and a lot of families up and down the
country getting back into the Sunday roast. We want to
hear from you. If you do that, is it for
the tradition? Is it just because it can be hopefully
something that's relatively easy to put together. Love to hear
from you on one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Tear open the bag. At the end, Tyler and Fan
bake for thirty minutes of say you use the bag
for a bit and.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Then right and then off some of the some of
the juices.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Yeah, off the moisture and maybe get you get a
bit of a crispiness going. All right, Kathy, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 15 (01:30:05):
Welcome, Hello. I haven't spoken to Ton for a long time,
but any live in christ Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Nice to cheat again, Kathy. You're pretty into your Sunday roast,
aren't you? From memory?

Speaker 15 (01:30:17):
No, no, oven doesn't want I'm sorry, no no, no
has been had it for three years, so I can't
do any roasting now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
But what I wanted to say, can you get your
How come you can't you get ovens fixed? I can't
afford to someone go around and fix.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
We get someone around to Kathy's place. So what are
you doing instead of the oven?

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Kathy?

Speaker 15 (01:30:40):
I just use one frying pan?

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
All right? Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:30:44):
Yeah, But what I was saying is I think food
is not a trend. Food is luxury. You know, like
it's not with you wear a pink shirt or blue
shirt or red shirt or whatever. It's food. It's not
a trend.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Can be a trend though, food food goes fashion. Yeah, yeah,
I just.

Speaker 15 (01:31:05):
Don't agree with that because I think you know you
you tell that to the people all over the world
that haven't got something to put in their mouths at
night time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Thank Kathy. We live in a time where are now
more people die of obesity than of starvation. You know
that that's a that's a happy fact of the world
that we live in. A twenty twenty five Yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 9 (01:31:26):
Right, it's a tyler.

Speaker 15 (01:31:27):
Yeah, I haven't seen you. I know that you live
in my neck of the woods. I just I'm a detective.

Speaker 8 (01:31:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Well, well, Katy, just before you carry on, I have
moved up to Auckland. But you carry on. So you're
you're out, Oh you're up here. You're upe in Mount Wellington.

Speaker 15 (01:31:46):
Yeah, of Mount Wellington. I was being on the cuff
and I shocked over that for New World a lot.
And I think I know where you might be situate it.
I won't say, but I have never well, I wouldn't
know what you look like because I don't have a
TV either.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Well, so I'm going to get you around for a roast, Kathy. Actually,
and we are. We're going to be yeah, yeah, absolutely,
and we're going to sort out your oven. Actually, so
just when we put your back on hold, you just
have a check to Andrew and we're going to sort
out your oven and lets me and you get together
for a Sunday roast. What's your what's your protein? A choice?

Speaker 15 (01:32:19):
I do like them?

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Yes, yeah, okay, So Maddy's going to get the lamb.
I'm going to get the yams, and we're gonna sort
Kathy out. But we are going to sort of here,
rubbin out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
I'm getting the lamb, you're getting the yams. Yams are
a lot cheaper than yam.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
Hey, we all know who gets paid the most on
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Okay, I'll get the lamp. I'll get the lamp.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
But just hold on the line because Andrew's gonna have
a check to you. We are going to sort your
oven out, Kathy, because that's not on. Uh Gregg, how
are you?

Speaker 11 (01:32:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:32:48):
Goeta guys, Now, what do you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Reckon when it comes to Oh, you don't get into
the charcold, are you?

Speaker 10 (01:32:55):
Mate?

Speaker 20 (01:32:56):
That's that's all goes good to my household on the Sunday.

Speaker 11 (01:33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:33:02):
Look, it's the process. It's the process. It's enjoyable. Also
means you get it on about between our two pm
and by the time it's ready, you've you've had a
few beers and the kids are the kids are fanging
around on their scooter while you while you're sort of
looking at the barbecue.

Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
It's good.

Speaker 20 (01:33:19):
It's a good way to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
What's the longest you've ever cooked a meat for? Greg?

Speaker 20 (01:33:25):
Well, look, I'm not a I'm by no means a pro.
I I tend to stay away from the massive briskets
and things because, yeah, they're just it's a long ride
for a short slide, So I tend to just stick
with it. Even like roast chocks. I've got the ceramics
thing where you fill it up with any liquid you want,
chuck the ROAs chuck on top, put on there for

(01:33:47):
an hour and a half. Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Yeah, the only thing with charcoal, Greg, And maybe you
do it a bit bit of a I've got a
mate who really gets into it and it's, you know,
a beautiful wee barbecue and charco operation he's got. But
the last time we went round there and he promised
this beautiful bit of meat and he keeps saying, you know,
I've got to seven o'clock and he said, oh, you know,
another another forty minutes, got to eight o'clock. Oh, just
give it another thirty And we didn't eat until about

(01:34:11):
eleven o'clock. And by that time I was legless. You know,
the red wine was pouring. So that's the only thing.
You've got to have your charchole game down pat to
make sure it's ready to go by no later than
eight pm.

Speaker 15 (01:34:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:34:23):
Look, I've got two kids and we try two young ones,
so we try and eat quite early so that they
can have a try of it all as well. But
we it all depends on your operation you set up.

Speaker 19 (01:34:33):
I got.

Speaker 20 (01:34:34):
I've got a you know, a ceramic one, so once
you I don't find them difficult at all.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Well, you're a brave man, Greg. I mean, I've seen
the charcoal operation before and it looks good, and you're right,
it tastes bloody good. But it just I don't know smokiness.

Speaker 20 (01:34:49):
My wife, My wife doesn't love it. She doesn't love
everything smoked too smoky, But the hand to smoke good
and it means it's a nice it's a nice way
to spin the vo and you tend to get your
way through a few beers at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
And how good does it feel putting the effort in
to cook the meat, cook the beast and then you
feed it to your spring? Is that is humanity? It
is purest.

Speaker 20 (01:35:13):
I like it, but I've got a two year old
that's the most probaular faciity seater in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Well, how good does it feel trying to force your
fussy two year old to eat them food that you've
spent a long time preparing for them and then have
it thrown back in your face. That's humanity for you,
right there?

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Yeah, yeah, Greg good Man, thank you very much. O.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call the Sunday Roast? Do you do it in your household?
And if you do it, what is the essential part
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Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Thank you very much. Railian. We're talking about the new
Zealand Sunday roast. It is back in vogue and a
lot of hospitality restaurants and cafes are undertaking the Sunday
roast as well. Fell off a little bit the Sunday roast,
but it's coming back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
And you know, look, I believe in the making it
at home and working with your family and serving that,
but also a big fan of going out for a
Sunday roast. If you want to big up a Sunday
roast purveyor yep, anywhere in the country, then we'd love
to hear from you. How do you do your Sunday
roast traditional or do you have a modern twist plant
based roast? Okay? Or should people be tased taste presenting

(01:37:47):
a plant based roast? And yeah, so what's so great
about your Sunday roast? Day? And Phil, what do you
think about this roast issue?

Speaker 7 (01:37:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:37:58):
Or the old Sunday roast. I haven't had of a
Sunday roast for god so long and great you Tyler
for more from the cooked one for Kathy, I think
it was a getting their oven flicked, the nice one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
There's there's some good people that have text through as well.
And I think we've got a fellow here who actually
works from Appliant Servicing company, so hopefully we can tee
him up with Kathy and get an oven sorted, because
that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
On and pill. I'm paying for the yam, so I'm
helping out as well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
There the lamb, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, got it, big
money heath over there.

Speaker 7 (01:38:30):
Film.

Speaker 17 (01:38:33):
Yeah, no good one matter, yeah, that's they're good onto both, yeah,
because you're playing for the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Yeah yeah yeah, and so so for for you mate,
what's the perfect Sunday roast? Obviously a lot of root
vegetables are involved, but Yorkshire put would you go that far?

Speaker 22 (01:38:52):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:38:52):
Not, because I was brought up very sort of brought
up with the pretty traditional Sunday roast where I can't
ever remember having that Yorkshire Yorkshire putting being part of it.
But it was just your basic bog standard but but beautiful,
like most simple things and life, your basic lamb bog

(01:39:14):
standard meat with your lamb and your beautiful just raised
potatoes and your and your root veggies like yams and
punkin and parsnip and parrots and just wonderful.

Speaker 17 (01:39:26):
You know, just missed that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Yeah, I'm not. I don't. I don't like I gotta have.
This is controversible, but I don't know. I got no
time for a partner.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
I've got no time for a pasta, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
When there's potatoes and kumina to be eaten? Why would
you bother with them? Dirty partner?

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Well, you're got to get the ratio right, and you're right,
you want more spud than passna. But you gotta have
a parsnip. I mean we're now, so you're eating pastap.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Sharon, you got a parsnup in your Sunday race?

Speaker 9 (01:39:52):
No, I never had, no, No. We we are definitely
the Yorkshire pitting I'm a daughter of the Yorkshiremen.

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
So that.

Speaker 9 (01:40:03):
But also we I cook our roast on our I
would do it cooked up on it. That's really good.
But no potatoes, pumpkin, kumera, carrots and these. But in
our house it would I would be a divorce materiol
if we didn't have decent gravy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Right, So you can't just whip up some bistow in
some boiling water, spin that round. You got to make
the proper with the fans.

Speaker 27 (01:40:31):
Well, yeah, we do.

Speaker 9 (01:40:32):
I do, really because I like the sabo tastes. But
I have had gravy and core. There's nothing wrong with that.
But yeah, it's got to be decent stuff. If it's
roast pork, it's going to have apple with it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
And who you having this roast with, Sharon?

Speaker 9 (01:40:45):
My husband and my son?

Speaker 12 (01:40:47):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:40:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
And is your son on board of them? Because I
think there may be the reason why I love a
Sunday roaster is because it was something my parents did
and I think it's a great tradition to pass on
for the family. So maybe at the time your kids
don't know how great it is. But does he into it?
How old is he?

Speaker 9 (01:41:04):
Yeah, definitely, nearly twenty three. And he likes he likes
his roast. He never complains when there was Well, so.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Does he come home, especially it's a Sunday tradition that
you come home for Sunday roast or is he still
in the house.

Speaker 9 (01:41:16):
Well, at the moment, he's still in the house, but
he has actually, you know, been flatting in things. But nah,
I guess he would claim that as his home meal
that his mother makes. And hopefully fondly remembers it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
And for your gravy, do you use flour or a
bit of corn flour?

Speaker 7 (01:41:33):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:41:33):
I always use corn flowers, just the way I was taught.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
How do you get the lumps out? Because that's I
love cornflower and it works well but gets a bit lumpy.

Speaker 9 (01:41:40):
Hex it with he mix it or with a bit
of cold water.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
And final final question for you, Sharon, how are you
dealing with the Yorkshire pud situation? Because you've got to
shove the oven up to two hundred. But if you've
got anything else in there at the time, that's that's
a bit of a bit of a problem. But if
you don't get the Yorkshire puddies at for then then
they come out all right, But then they think flat
and there's nothing worse than having to battle through with chewy,
unfluffy Yorkshire pud.

Speaker 9 (01:42:03):
Sharon, Well, I used to cook them out in the oven.
I now cooked them in the air fry.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Ah, I haven't tried that.

Speaker 9 (01:42:10):
Yeah, come out really good. As to roast potatoes, they
are very yummy out of there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Yeah, and you're duck fat, duck fedting those potatoes.

Speaker 9 (01:42:20):
No, I don't, but people do we're chrible win but
oh I love.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
You know what, this whole chair has been so worth
it for me just to have the Yorkshire putting in
the for I don't know, I didn't think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
That's genius.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
It's all about it. It's all about the temperature of
the Yorkshire race. All right, thanks so much, we call Sharon.
Thank you for your insights. That is a Sunday rast.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
There's a lot of people coming through about the past
nips Heath. You either starting eating parsnip or I switched
back to Hoki. That's from Herman and this one says, yep,
he thinks thank god, someone has said up pastnips we
should just leave them in the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Guys, God, I hate past nips. Featured it all day. Yeah,
there's a rising time.

Speaker 11 (01:43:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
This has come up on this news article about how
much the Sunday roast is coming back and how good
it is for people's mental health and bringing families together.
But it's there is also a rising tide of anti
parsnip feeling in the community, which I thoroughly support.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
If you're what to beck the Hubble part oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty But also is Sunday roast
a big thing in your household? Did the kids come
back for the Sunday roast? And how do you do it?
If you've got a bit of a twist to it?
It is twenty two to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Med Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on med Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
It'd be I've got a massive bit of beef here
and I'm going to cook a big beefy roast and
I'm going to do coliflower.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Cheese and roast potatoes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
And the beef was sopping wet with beef wet, so
I dried it, oiled it and salted it and then
set it aside to become the temperature of a room.
Cauliflower cheese will be present, and I thought I'd use
the leaves as today's greenery. I also sliced up peeled
spuds for roasties and peeled carrots for carrots. I had
leftover celery and some onions which would have supporting rolls
in today's gravy. I simmered both the couliflower and the
spuds until poked threw a ball with a knife. I

(01:44:03):
drained them both, and then got some oil hot for
the spuds. Salt pep and wil flowered corn and a
bash about to create crisp edges is all that's needed here.
Into the hot oil they went.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
But then I remembered I had.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Some dut fat in the fridge, so that went in
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
The beef needed a seer on all of its sides,
and I then added the celery, the onions and garlics,
and both rosemary and thine into the oven.

Speaker 22 (01:44:22):
For a while.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
It did go As I shuffled the spuds on a
hot hot I turned the oven down Here also I
made a lovely cheese sauce, starting with a roue loads
of blue cheese as well as conte and cheddar. Made
this the kind of cheese sauce, but if a lactose
intolerant person took one with off they.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Did, you'll get their pants clean.

Speaker 22 (01:44:36):
Off.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
In went cooked coliflower and into a tray of oven
proofness it went, with breadcrumbs and chili flakes atop.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
The beef needed a rest and the gravy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
Needed making with red veno and blended cow chicken stock
topped it up, and I added a little jam for
sweetness and soy for death. I got the collie cooking
and strained the liquid gold gravy. I poached the carrots
and a star and ease and bay and fused chicken
broth for roughly ten exact minutes, and sauteed my greens
with garlic and chili. The gravy was thickened with a
cornflower slurry. After slicing beef flaps. It was time to
serve up a lovely Sunday special and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Douse it with gravy. Just delightful roach. Do you get that?

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
Oh that sounds so good. They're a very saucy roast,
isn't it love that we trumpet in the background as well,
really really sold it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
I thank you Carrot and Parson. It meshed butter, salt
and pepper, yummy ross. And there's a bunch of ticks
coming through here stuffing your muppets. That's a good point, Like,
if there's a chicken involved, there's got to be stuffing involved, right, Yeah,
you've got to twist on a roast there, Johnny.

Speaker 14 (01:45:31):
Yeah, yeah, butcher's string.

Speaker 7 (01:45:35):
So I used to love in South lond And we
hit a lot of Sweden passed ups and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Traumatized God, I've experienced. I grew up you know, in
Southland as well for a lot of my life, and
sometimes my grandma would mash swede and passment together and
too just to unholy lump on the side of the plate.

Speaker 17 (01:45:57):
You beat me too, I was just going to say that.

Speaker 8 (01:45:59):
And gall and George Street and south to they having
mash swede with with turnips.

Speaker 22 (01:46:04):
And reminded me of the Black Any episode with the
Puritans White Eddy.

Speaker 14 (01:46:12):
Getting the raw turn up and liking it.

Speaker 20 (01:46:17):
On the media.

Speaker 14 (01:46:17):
Stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:46:18):
So lamb flaps, yeah, when there was a must in
to your head or rabbits and rabbits roasted are very.

Speaker 15 (01:46:24):
Very nice time.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
I think Jamie Oliver does a good one, but I reckon,
you know, the humble mutton flap.

Speaker 15 (01:46:30):
That's from the belly you d boneet.

Speaker 7 (01:46:33):
You make up some stuff into your liking and and
then you get some botch the string and you tied
it into a roll.

Speaker 20 (01:46:39):
And you can do it on a skiller on the stove.

Speaker 8 (01:46:41):
You can.

Speaker 24 (01:46:42):
You can.

Speaker 20 (01:46:44):
Get it nice and sealed, I think it's the word.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
And then assault on that end and once they stead
of brown and you can pop it into the oven.

Speaker 14 (01:46:53):
And slow cook it.

Speaker 12 (01:46:54):
And from there people might add their dear wine, pnegans
or whatever, but I just keep it pretty simple.

Speaker 16 (01:47:00):
I've got herbs grown out the kitchen outside.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Of the kitchen there and if you're who you're eating
that with, Johnny.

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
I mean misses and the kids and the dogs on
the dog, the dog gets in as well.

Speaker 15 (01:47:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
And how good is it? As I keep saying to
just you feel you feel like you're in touch with
what you're supposed to be doing with life when you
spend the bit of time cooking a big meal, cooking
a beast and then serving up to your offspring.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Yeah, you feel good, absolutely, Thanks, Thank you, Johnny. That
is a nice Well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Sometimes I think that my my parents were running scams
on me. Like one thing they used to say, like
a baked bean special, and so I thought that the
most special meal in the world was baked beans with
cheese on it. But also the you know, off the roast,
the string which one of your kids wants the string
off the roast, and we'd all jump around excited about that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Was it a scam though? Because that was just oozing
with fat, wasn't it? And you're the string was.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
You're just eating something about to throwing the rubbish. Your
kids are jumping up and down excited. It's like the
skin of the gravy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
You know, that little part at the tail of the chicken.
What do they call that? But it's a little kind
of it's the end of the tail.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
That's nose.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Oh, that's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Sage young and stuffing and the roast chok or cover
the roast pork and bacon and then glaze it with mables, maples.

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Ben yep and this one matt homegrown passing up absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Get amongst death to the person. Never you're on the
mutton as well?

Speaker 10 (01:48:20):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Yeah that you never?

Speaker 23 (01:48:25):
Yeah, no, no, we hit last night. We had roast
mutton and that is such a nice fat, greasy everywhere.
You know, you got her on all the dishes and
everything we had was that. We had kumera, We had
roast potatoes, We had carrots done when my wife does
it in honey does the carrots and honey. And we

(01:48:46):
had the old old man's toes, the old yems, yeah,
the maggots and they were old men's toes.

Speaker 17 (01:48:53):
We always called it.

Speaker 23 (01:48:54):
Yeah, and that's yeah, that was that was a really
good feed.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
But mutton.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
You know what are you doing to the mutton? Like
how you just roast it, salts it and roast it
just not even salt, not insight.

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
Right, Where where do you get the mutton these days?
From nivel? I mean you don't because you don't find
it in the in the supermart, don't.

Speaker 23 (01:49:16):
You can't you can have you can hardly buy today.
My daughter is a meat inspector and who her husband
is a a processed person at a meat with the
meat works, right, and then when they have their sale
day they have leaves of mutt.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Oh, so you got to know someone basically, yep, you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Got to be Yeah, bring back mutton because I used
to be a big fan of the mutton ham at
Christmas and I prefer the mutton ham over the the
pig ham. And also a mutton pie. You can the
mutton pie is the top pie. And where I come
from is it's on the advertised out in front of
a shop, a mutton pie.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
So you Southlanders you don't like parsnip, you're into the
mutton ham. You just I just want to go against
the grain.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
You know all this Texas says here you've brought up
my personal trauma with my with the past ups. My
family loved mess carrot, parsnip and swede. Just looking at
it makes me feel sick. But even the next generation
love it, so it's not come off the table anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Yeah, Mike, you want to talk about the Sunday roast?

Speaker 10 (01:50:16):
Yeah, Hi guys. Yeah, back in the early eighties, you know,
six seven years old, my grandparents lived five minutes away
and every Sunday we'd go around there for dinner. And
the ultimate has to be in New Zealand, the leg
of lamb, the roast legal lamb. Yeah, really sick. And

(01:50:39):
that was back in the days when you know, late
in the afternoon there'd be Disney on TV. There was
two channels one and two and we'd sit around watching
Disney on TV, and you know, and you'd smell the
food wafting through and I'd go into the kitchen and
back in those days, the leg of lamb had some

(01:50:59):
sort of extra knuckle on it, like some sort of shank.

Speaker 21 (01:51:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:51:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:51:04):
I always Nana Nana, and you know she was from Glasgow.
She knew to do it roast and you know, can
I have the little shank?

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:51:12):
Yeah, So I chew away on that and it was
just absolutely delicious. But sitting down for dinner around the
table and the whole family's around, now you'd have your obviously,
and to this day, roast potatoes are my ultimate favorite,
and obviously kumera pumpkin, and then you've got your broccoli
and your cauliflower with.

Speaker 8 (01:51:32):
The you make.

Speaker 10 (01:51:37):
You make a root with flour and water and butter,
and then you chucking the cheese and make a cheese sauce,
which is just divine.

Speaker 7 (01:51:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:51:45):
Past I never never used to be a fan of
passing it, but I hate it these days. I mean,
surely it's got some goodness and extra vitamins that might
add to your health. So yeah, I put that, Yeah,
I'll put that away.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Keep them in the ground. No more pass I can't agree.

Speaker 10 (01:52:02):
I love a good pass it, yeah, but definitely, I
think the key to a good roast is the gravery
gravy where you know, you we use the juices from
the roast and then you use the water from the
vegetables you've cooked with gravy, browning of flour and bitter seasoning.

(01:52:25):
But I can't I don't think anyone's mentioned yet to
make it epic.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
Is the mint sauce, Yes, especially with lamb.

Speaker 10 (01:52:34):
Yeah, the mint sauce ye with that. Yeah, and you
know I mean that that It's just an incredible meal
and it's a privilege, privilege.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I'm salivating.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
I'm just trying to think of the mint sauce that
I absolutely it might be Witlocks Whitlocks mint sauce.

Speaker 15 (01:52:51):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
It is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
I bought I bought some fancy pants mint sauce the
other day and there's too much mint and it you
can't get it out of the end of the bottle. Yeah,
you just get you just need to get the big
plastic one.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
That's what I mean. It's missed the old mint sauce
and you've got to find the right one. But yees,
spot on, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Yeah, thank if you call Mike, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
I think we've got time for Steve. Get a Steve,
you want to talk about Granny's roast?

Speaker 27 (01:53:16):
Yeah, Grannie's roast about forty years ago. Once a month
it would be your standard veg. So did be your spuds,
your Comera yams, one hundred broccoli or collie and cheese
sauce with some chopped up parsley in it nice. Definitely

(01:53:36):
Yorkie pods.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Yeah, Ykie pods.

Speaker 27 (01:53:38):
Definitely a gravy boat in the middle of the table,
and the protein was a beef wing ribbed fully salted,
and you cannot beat that. You get those Yorkie pods,
you pull them with a bit of butter, a bit
of gravy and a bit of beef. Yes, pick them
up and eat them like a little sammy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Oh yeah, you're talking to me. And have you ever
tried have you ever a horse right of chips? So lete?
Have you tried making just a massive Yorkshire and putting
the whole roast inside the mass of Yorkshire?

Speaker 27 (01:54:12):
Well, actually, my mother used to make that for breakfast,
and she'd call it Sweet Yorkshire's and she'd make a
hole like a dish the size of a dinner plate
and we'd filled in with jam and cream for brecky.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Ooh god, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Yeah, that's making me hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Yeah, how freaking good. I remember an episode of Coronation
Street when I was a kid and someone came home
with Yorkshire puddings but they brought them from the shop,
and I can just remember the line store bought yorks chees.
I'm not eating store bought yorkses.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Good people, right O one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. We might have time for
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Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
All right, that's almost started. Is five to four.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
I didn't get around to my confession that I always
put a lentil roast in with my roast.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
There it is, that's right at the start.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
I mean there's a meat, there's a protein part of
as well, but the Heath tradition of the lentil roast,
it's delicious. Don't judge me till you've tried it. I
can't agree more about parsnips. They not only taste terrible,
they also behave terribly, like celery and fig leaves. They
contain some word I can't pronounce, and they do terrible
things to your past ups are disgusting. Pastips are the greatest.
How do you say this about passnips? Parsnips roasted? You're

(01:55:36):
an idiot. Past ups were all all right.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
It was more controversial than what we talked about at
one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
I got no idea great tune dancing with myself?

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
This is Billy Idol, but he was in gen X
and the song was first released by the band gen X.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Very good.

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