Full Show Podcast: 09 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hellout you Great New Zealands, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one twenty one for Friday,
the ninth of May, in the Year of Our Lord
twenty twenty five. Nearly forgot the reach yep we got.
We got a new pot pope today, Lewis Leo the fourteenth. Yeah,
but we don't talk about that at all really on

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the show.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Do we.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Why you mentioned as popy popey face, good popy face.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, very very lovely popy face. But yeah, a really
interesting show today. I can't remember anything.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
We talked about speed cameras. Oh those new rad fours
with Roofrex.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
That speed camera chat was bloody good. People came back
at us, heart they did. They thought we were being flipping.
There was there was there was a I love that.
There was some fiery tics coming. They tried to team up,
didn't they. They really came in. One guy went to hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
We were so outraged.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
And then we talked about something else that I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Well, we got into colliictions right at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Tyler there's something in the middle. There was something in
the middle. I'm sure it was great. Oh it was fantastic,
Join Me Family Businesses, Well, I said, I knew that. Yeah,
it's one of those shows we hear a lot of
great stories from people's lives. You know. It might not
have been just the cutting edge news, might not have
been razor sharp, but there were some great little stories

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in there. So I think you're going to enjoy the show.

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Speaker 5 (01:42):
Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything
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Speaker 4 (01:53):
Good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show on this
Friday afternoon. Hope you are doing well. Weave you're listening,
Get a Mattes.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Get a Tyler good A ll you great New Zealanders
has got a great show for you. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Now, just quickly, you were talking before about the Hall
of Famers when it came to bullstop in this country,
and you made the claim quite an outrageous claim that
there are bulls out there that have over a million children.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, they've got a million confirmed inseminations. Yeah, I don't
think anyone of any of them had a million children.
That's a big step. But I think there's there's ones
up there in the hundreds of thousands of children. I
doubt daughters, daughters. Yeah, I doubted you.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
But I just had a look at the LC website
and in the nineties nineties was a good year for bulls.
This fella King's mill pa Walisa one million, two hundred
and sixty eight thousand in seminations. How many daughters are
two hundred and eleven thousands?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
See, that's impressive. I mean I pat myself on the
back every day for managing to sire to sons. And
how many daughters has he got? Two hundred and eleven thousand?
That is Look, that is that is hard hard. Yeack,
You've got some ketching up to do. You're going to
have to work over time to provide for all those
daughters exactly what put them through uni Oh my god,

(03:07):
just uniform costs alone.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Now, before we get onto the show, you have an
event this weekend which is going to be fantastic that's right.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Featherston Booktown twenty twenty five, Sunday, the eleventh of May.
I'm going to be on stage with Paddy Gower and
farmer Wayne Langford and Phil Quinn and we're having a
discussion about men's mental health under year. It's all good

(03:37):
men keeping themselves well as the topic. And you can
buy tickets to that. Go to event finder dot co
dot in z and use the code mates rates for
a special discount Blessed bless spear. So that's on Sunday.
What time is that on Sunday? I should know, actually
Sunday at one thirty pm and featherstonep So looking forward

(03:59):
down to flying into Wellington. What's the weather looking down
there at around the airport tomorrow? I'm not looking at
a sideways landing Featherstone. It's always good on Featherstone, isn't it. Yeah?
Land Featherston mate.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh no, we just got to hope you've got Scott
Buttery running that operation.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah, he flies the New Zealand's best pilot. Scott Buttery,
absolute legend. But he's only on the ATR. Is the
all right? Yea, okay?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Right now? Before also we get into the topics today.
Was this something you wanted to have a quick chat about.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Man, was it?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh, let's skip that actually, Okay, that is a hell
of a tease. We're going to bring that up maybe
after two o'clock. Yeah, because I know it's getting to you.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
We've been going on about bull children and my gigs
and Featherston, and I just think we need to move
on with it.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
We do have a show to do. Actually, speaking of
that show, after three o'clock, we want to talk about
when collections become an unhealthy obsession. The Strange Lady over
in Australia. She has been awarded the Guinness World Record
for the largest Minion memorabilia collection, over a thousand pieces.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Shameful, shameful collection. But it does be the question why
why why?

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Why?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, why do we have this desire to collect things?
We're like Octopi or Kars. We just want to collect things.
And so we want you to name and shame your
partners or friends or children or parents that have got
collection problems.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
And you might get a bit of shame directed at
you as well, because you're you're.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
A collector, oh terrible collector.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
That is after three o'clock, after two o'clock going into
the family business. Didn't get to this yesterday, but we
want to today. Ronaldo's son is going into his family
business football. He's been selected for the under fifteen side
in Portugal, which is a great little story. But we
want to talk to you if you've followed your parents
into their career choice or indeed taken over the family business.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, what's it like? Or if you're a parent that's
got a business and your kids refuse to follow you
into it, or if you are the child and it's
rarely punishing to work with your dad. We just want
to look into what it's like going into the family
business because you kind of got this idea that you
go off into the world, you go on your oe,
and then you try and do things. This is sort
of the cliche, and then it doesn't work out. You

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don't become the super stay you thought you were going
to be, and you come home and you work on
your family business and there's a part of you that
goes I didn't I didn't really change the script in
my life. But is that true? Is it a backups
or legitimate or is it just an absolute honor to
go in and continue the legacy of your family.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
That's going to be a great discussion after two o'clock,
But right now, let's have a chat about speed camera vans.
The nz TA has started rolling out new non branded
mobile safety camera SUVs. They've taken over from the police
on the speed camera vans, which means you won't be
seeing any of those well sign posted police fans on
the side of the road anymore. They're going to be

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quite inconspicuous rav fours by the look of it, that
are going to be on the side of the road.
The nz TA does say that these particular vehicles are
going to be visible to motorists. They're not going to
be hiding behind trees around the corner trying to sting you.
But who would argue if you have a look at

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these rav fours that are being posted, they would be very,
very difficult.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
To a They promised they're not going to be around
corners at in areas where people are breaking you know,
when it's been the one hundred k and then it's
coming down to fifty and the corners at the bottom
of hills. Sometimes they put themselves in places and this
is what they shouldn't do where you're more likely to
generate revenue than you are to increase the safety on

(07:25):
the roads. And that's what annoys me.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
And they haven't made that promise. I've got to say, I.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Think it's good that the police aren't doing it anymore.
It seems to me that NZTA should be doing this
because you I mean, really, if we think about what
the police can do and the skills they have, one
of them sits, you know, sitting on the side of
the road for hours with a gun away taking people,
that's a waste of someone that we need out, you know,
doing all the other things, because we've definitely got a

(07:51):
lot of crime in this New Zealand and this country
of ours. But I postulated this this thing before I
pulled this, this sort of analogy out of my butt.
This is good, this is really good earlier, and I
want to know what people think about this. I have
always been confused by this because I hate the idea
of them pinging me. But if you're speeding, you're speeding,

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and if they catch you, they catch you. My example
was it's illegal to murder someone, right yep, highly And
if I stab someone and the guy goes haha. I
was a cop and I have a vest on under
my shirt. I don't go mate, you should have been
wearing a uniform so I knew not to stab you.
You see what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that
speeding the law. If you break it, then that's just

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bad luck. You know, whatever way they used to catch you,
then that's fine, right.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I mean to try and argue with that. Analogy
is a tough thing to do. But I was going
to say, if they give you the heads up that
stabbing is a bad thing to do. Yeah, and there
are signs everywhere saying do not stab people because you'll
go to jail, then everybody knows that, hey, you don't
go around stabbing people in this country.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I feel like this analogy is breaking down. So what
you're saying is that the What are you saying saying that?
So if it's signposted everywhere that the speed limit? What
not explain it?

Speaker 7 (09:17):
Well?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
If the ultimate aim is to get people to drive
to the speed limit, yeah, and you have signs saying
there is a speed camera ahead of you, I guarantee
that is better for getting people to drive to the
speed limit than having a hidden van away because they're
not going to change their their driving behavior. They might
get stung with a fine and then arguably, yep, they

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may change their behavior, but they may not because they,
you know, they'd always think that they can get away
with it. Whereas if you've got a big sign saying
you're not going to get away with it, there is
a van ahead of you and it's going to sting
you unless you slow down, then surely that's a better
way to make people sayer on the roads.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, okay, so you're saying, like some you're entering in
a non stabbing zone right now, we've got anti stabbing
cameras everywhere exactly. Yeah, no, I think I kind of
get your point. So is this true the police staff
and speed camera vans were not cops, so were non
sworn police employees. Cheers much even so, I would say

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even the admin around getting them out there, and the
vehicles they were using, it just seems to me that
whatever resources the police were having to deploy on that
is better deployed by NZTA than it is by the police.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
And some of those were paddi wagons, right, so you're
giving up the resource of a paddy wagon that was
sign rented with all the police livery on it, So
that is a resource taken out of the equation that
police could be using elsewhere. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
The Tony says, Matt, that is the most stupid analogy
I've ever heard. Makes zero sense. Cheers Tony. Okay, Tony, Okay, Tony.
We'll explain why it's the most stupid analogy. It's very
easy to say it's a stupid analogy.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, try and argue against a Tony. It's a lot
harder than I thought. I tried, and I don't know
if I was that successful.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, anyway, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, what do
you think of these changes? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I love to hear from you. It is quarter past three.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
every between.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons, used talks.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
It'd be very good afternoon to you. It is eighteen
passed one. Are we're talking about these new speed camera
events that the zed TA have started rolling out incredibly inconspicuous.
They reckon that they are not going to be hidden.
Here's the quote from nzed TA. They said the vehicles
will not be hidden from road users. We won't use trees,
blowing corners or anything else at the roadside to disguise

(11:33):
our cameras. They'll be visible to drivers. But if you
ever look at the photo, it's a rare four it's
got freaking' roofrex on it. I just thought that was.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
It looks like a family going skiing.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, I thought the journalists just pluck that out from
some sort of motoring magazine. But no, that is from
nzed TA. They got that photo direct from the source.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Why do they have to be in such a flash car?
Why don't you put them in like an absolute crapper? Well,
I mean, bring back Treeking. If you see an absolute
crapper on the side of the road, you always go
that's a car broken down and not a speed camera obviously,
So if they actually wanted to be more less conspicuous, yeah,
then put a crapper on the side of the rape.
But why are we paying for these bloody flesh hybrid humiliators?

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Do you think there should be signage to
say there's a speed camera ahead of you? Or do
you think it's fair cop? If you get stung.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
That's your problem. I eight hundred eighteen eighty Hayden says,
if you don't want to get caught, don't speed. Simple
that's the law, you see. That's what I was saying
with my my stabbing analogy, but Tiny didn't like it. Scott,
Welcome to the show your thoughts today.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Matton Tyler. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
I was driving through a stirtain the other day and
he is one of the old beans pack. You know,
all the snted windows in that park just opposite the
main just one hundred meters up from a set of lights,
so I don't know who they were open to catch there.

Speaker 8 (12:53):
But I don't know.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
You know, you're talking about line like fines and exeter
in front of the cameras and the sower's being musky, So.

Speaker 10 (13:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (13:07):
If you know Emocha and South Canterbury, they've got one
of the most profitable fixed speed cameras in the country.
I'm like, producing over a million dollars a.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Year and tickets, et cetera.

Speaker 9 (13:22):
Yet the signs and that to say you're entering our
speed camera area, so go figure putting signs up around them.
The leave and as you say, having musky vehicles and stuff,
people are going to recognize them eventually and then they're
just going to see them in the distance or people
coming the other way, you know, flash lights and people
just slow down, don't they like when you see police

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and in the distance you come past them your flash
lights of the next car coming out of the way,
so they slow down.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
So what do you think the solution is, Scott, what
do you think the best way to deal with it is?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (13:56):
Most Yeah, most cars these days apose have adaptive cruise
control for the time that they automatically got to know
and want you hit a certain speed.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, do you when you have your adaptive cruise control on,
do you put it at one hundred or do you
put it at one hundred and five?

Speaker 9 (14:12):
Depending on the situation of living in christ You know,
we've just had Southern Motorway from Brown Streak out to
Roliston just had the increase one hundred and ten, so
you know, one hundred and ten. I set mine somewhere
between one hundred and five and one hundred and fourteen,
which is made limits. But once they get fast, for
all of sudden, if I've been on that one hundred

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and ten. I'll bring it back to one hundred and four,
one hundred and five. But of course you know you'd
travel at the steed of the traffic as long as
you're favorable.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. Now, I think adeptive cruise control and has made
driving between cities a so much easier. But also you
just take that out of your hands. But basically you
just get into procession, don't you behind the other cars,
You set the distance that you're going to sit behind
the other cars, you take your foot off the accelerator
and you just cruise. Yeah, and it's I know, I

(15:04):
find driving between the cities so much more relaxing now. Yeah.
And actually you the lines of cars and it's it's
it's almost AI like how locked and stepped they are.
Everyone's just the same distance apart, cruising at the same speed,
which is lovely but safe.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I know that particularly in the South Island because it's
longer roads.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
But there's still.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
People down there that will get behind someone who is
just going over the speed limit, and they're known as
police bait. So you just get just getting behind them
and if there is a speed camera, hopefully they get
stung or the cop swings out and gets them and
you'll be saved.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Can't the camera go bom bomb? Can't get.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Actually, can it do it in quick succession? I measured it.
It probably can.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I think you do it pretty quickly. Could Yeah? Yeah,
thanks to you call, Scott. I appreciate. I mean you
could argue that cameras everywhere, yeah, and just paying everyone.
I know in Italy they had what was the guy
called that there was a vigilante that was cutting down
all the cameras in Italy because they camera everywhere on
the roads over there. And then there was a sort

(16:08):
of super hero that turned up a vigilante for the
people that was going chainsawing down the signs. I lock
up his name because they thought there was unfair to
be everywhere. And also the thing is the problem with
all this is then we had recently some stupid lowering
of speed limits that didn't need to be lowered, and
then you start questioning the government when people got absolutely

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ridiculous with the speed limits. Then you're going, well, I
don't trust you guys, because you're making dumb decisions.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Exactly just what Scott was saying about the fleshing your headlights.
If there's a cop or a speed camera head and
that's a very key we thing to do, and we
can argue whether that's the right thing or not. I
think absolutely you should be doing that. But Google, now,
if you use Google Maps, you can there's something on
the app that you can just press the button and say, hey,
there's a speed camera up ahead. So we already know

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they may as well just put a sign out. It's
the people warning the other people. It's like, you know,
the citizens are doing the job here Insida may as
well just doing put a big sign up and saying, hey, watch.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do you know who the real one is? In the
cruise adeptive cruise control technology and laying technology. Teenage boys
and kids coming through at a certain age because if you're
a dad, you're like, I don't want them banging around
in an old fashioned car now zooming between cities. So
I think more and more teenage boys are getting given
their dad's flash car just because he doesn't want them

(17:29):
traveling between cities and rubbish cars without the all the
safety feature.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
It's a great point. Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It's twenty four past one.

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Speaker 2 (18:23):
ZV afternoon twenty seven past one. So this was last year.
I was talking before about the Italian speed camera vigilantee.
His name was Flexi Man. Itally has been gripped by
a vigilante who calls himself Flexi Man, and he has
made it his mission to tear down as many speed
cameras as possible. Flex Man has already claimed at least
fifteen successful strikes, and a special police task force and

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four different prosecutors officer are now investigating the attacks. The
anonymous vandal began leaving a trail of destruction months ago
in the Northeast as more and more of the cameras
were put out of action. So if we have more
speed cameras in New Zealand, do you think we'll get
our own Flexi Man? I hope.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
So that sounds like a great story closing in on
Flexi Man.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I'll keep looking and see if Flexi Man. Wow,
he rarely did some damage to that camera. I think
he's got a couple of accomplices there as well. Doesn't
he has Flexi Man been found? Yeah, I don't know
if Flexi Man is still operational. Guys, in the UK,
they have averaging speed cameras on all motorways. They measure

(19:26):
your speed so there is no way to avoid it.
And this Texas is in the UK it's illegal to
be given a speeding ticket via camera without being a
prior warning sign. But that's the same here. New Zealand.
Transport Agency puts fixed safety cameras on high rest stretches
of road, and we're installing signs so they know there
is a fixed safety camera nearby. So there is always

(19:47):
a sign saying that you're in a fixed camera era.
But they don't have to have the signs if they've
got some wound or parked on the side of the
road in a car.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, and I can understand why they wouldn't have a
fixed sign there because the van is moving around all
the time, but just a temporary sign to say, hey,
just FYI, there's a speed camera van coming up. Uh, Peter,
you reckon. These new vans are pretty under cover.

Speaker 13 (20:13):
Well yeah, yeah, I was just a little bit confused,
I was saying to you. I get I get confused easily.

Speaker 14 (20:19):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Produced.

Speaker 13 (20:22):
But when you guys said that the new ones are
very inconspicuous, the current ones are as well. I mean
there's no a lot of them are high end, do
look like delivery vans. There's no writing on the sides,
and not the ones that I've ever seen, and there's
no indications that they are a speed camera van. Until

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you get close enough and it takes photo of you,
you might see a flash but generally the ones I've
seen are no different, or the new ones are a
toiler toileter wrap fours, that's a bit different, But the
one I'm being used at the moment are pretty inconspicuous.
And that's why I always take note of every vehicle
I see parked on the side of the road, because

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you never know what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
So if you see, if you see it, if you
see an older vehicle, say something that's early two thousands
or earlier, you're like that, that's just a car that's
been either a dowy ride dumping or someone's broken down.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like in this and premiere or something.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
But any kind of any kind of reasonably modern car,
anything over about twenty fifteen, you.

Speaker 13 (21:24):
Go maybe yep, exactly exactly, and and specifically with the
with the vans, because the vans are pretty obvious, really,
and now that you guys are broadcast, the reinforces are
going to be pretty obvious too. Yeah, everybody be looking
at for reforce or roof breaks.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
But don't you get a tune to looking out for
I do. I am a tuned looking out for vans
on the side of the road now, and more often
than not, it's just backpackers who have pulled up on
the side of the road, but I can see that
van from a mile away. It's like when the cops
change the police cars, we all got to tune the
spotting commodore's coming up in the distance and thinking, oh,
that might be a police officer. So there's something in that,

(22:00):
isn't it that they It feels like they've got to
keep changing it to stay ahead of the population and
what they're tuned for.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
This is slightly off topic, but Peter, but I find
I still find it strange that police cars are scoters now.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yeah, why how did they get that? Across the line?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
There? Very old.

Speaker 13 (22:20):
I'm an old farm I go way back from Skoda
was if you bought a scoter you were laughed at. Yeah,
And I think I've spoken to you guys before. I
used to work at Ford Motor Company and see you
and we were off at a Skoda to do a
comparison against our courteen if we were building then, and
we just laughed and said no, thank you. But funny enough,

(22:42):
the Russians used to come out here when the when
the Russian fishing vessels were used to go around their
coast they used to buy up the scooters and the
larders and take it back to Rutta because they were
a flesh car.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
This is off topic in Peter, but I used to
have a pretty fency done up fee at one two
five mags on it and everything. It was a great car,
but it looked exactly like a larder because the Russians
behind their own and had bought the design for the
Fiat one two five. So I was constantly eating hassle
of having a light.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, yeah, the skate is coming
ahead with leaves from bounds because of out it. Yep,
and they've they've done it for them. But but just
going down to the speed cameras and play. We did
a trip up and you put usrom Wennington last weekend
and there was two places and an actual effect if
you go onto the onto the the Trainsport website, you

(23:37):
will see when you look at the root conditions and
it actually indicates on there where they have these what
they call now safety cameras. I'm not sure why it's
called a safety cameras. It's really a speed camera, but
they're well marked. It's a little like when you're simon
up to party Lane and you're going to you're got
to sign the two kilometers before you get there. These
cameras were marked a couple of CA's before you actually

(24:00):
got there, and then when you got there, there was
another big sign before you actually got in range of
the camera. So I sort of look at that and
think that's fine, But it only slows down the traffic
if the traffic is going fast for that part of
the journey, maybe fifty or sixty meters, you know what
I mean, and then everybody's back up to the one

(24:21):
hundred and ten a in or one hundred and fifteen
or whatever. So yeah, I'm not necessarily a fan of them,
but they do I guess they do. They do generate
revenue for the government and for the transport government.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, well what annoys me though, is the revenue that they
that they generate goes into a sort of consolidated fund,
doesn't it. It does, so that opens it up to feelings
that you're being the leased and it's just a revenue exercise.
If it went directly towards traffic safety or improving the
roads so that they were safer, then I would be

(25:01):
I would be much more open to just having cameras
everywhere and everyone getting pained because they make the roads
and eventually, you know, if you make roads safe enough
and they've got enough lanes and you get to going
one way and going the other way separated, then then
you can put the speed limits up to one hundred
and ten. But they ain't. They just siphon that money

(25:21):
off and then just sprayt around a bunch of other
stupid stuff. Yeah, exactly, you.

Speaker 11 (25:26):
Did, right.

Speaker 13 (25:26):
Yeah, I'd love to see it going various, you know, Yeah,
medium bars down down the middle of the road, because
I do think save hundreds of life.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Because speed is one thing, Peter. Another thing is that
the person coming the other way could be could be drunk,
they could be an idiot, they could be asleep, and
you don't know who's coming the other way. And if
they if they could be going one hundred k the
other way and you're going one hundred k this way,
and if you're just separated by paint, that's that's more
than enough mess.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, Peter, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Great to chat. Have great week, Kenned.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
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Speaker 4 (27:22):
Thank you very much, ray Lean, and we're talking about
new speed camera vans that have been rolled out by NZTA.
Should they tell us where those speed camera vans are
or is it fair cop if they sting you in
your speeding.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Neil's text said your encouragement to destroy roadside cameras is deplorable. Neil, absolutely,
No one did that. No, what a very odd text.
We were talking about Fleximan, a guy in Italy who
was destroying roadside cameras and the fact that someone is
doing it and you're talking about it doesn't mean that
you're supporting that. No, that's a ridiculous call. But he
was called Fleximan, after the German company that developed the

(27:59):
Excel grind at the Angle grinder, that's why. And a
lot of it's been happening in the UK as well.
Nearly one thousand of the ULZ cameras have been target
in the last seven months alone in London, with two
hundred and twenty being stolen in seven hundred and sixty
seven damaged. But Neil, if you just think for more
than fifteen seconds before you text, you'd realize reading that

(28:20):
out is not endorsing. We're not saying go out and
be forty man. Otherwise, every time anyone said anything on
the news, they'd be endorsing it. That's right, you genius.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Come on, Neil, get with the program. Oh one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is a number to call, Trevor.
Welcome to the show. What are they doing Aussie?

Speaker 16 (28:37):
Oh yeah, I was just going it up. I've got
a cold comfort. But you're lucky you're not on the
Gold Coast. We were. I know something really well when
I look in the mirror and you know if you
know what I mean. We were over there cruising around
the Gold Coast. Got two offenses through a camera. One
was the cell phone on the knee right gping it
on the knee, I was sitting on the knee. And

(28:58):
the other one was for the old rooted seatbelt. Two thousand,
four hundred and eighty Australian dollars.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Wow, So hang, what were the two offenses?

Speaker 17 (29:08):
Cell phone?

Speaker 16 (29:09):
Cell phone on the knee, sitting on your knee and
the other one knows about special camera doesn't pick up
speed it comes directly down from probably things going over
them in one into your windscreen and the photos are
so for here by the way, those those cameras are coming.
Those cameras are coming to New Zealand, so beware. But
that's Australian dollars. I think it was two thousand, six

(29:30):
hundred and something New Zealand on.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
More so, you're not even allowed to have a cell
phone on your knee.

Speaker 16 (29:37):
You're not allowed to in New Zealand either. It's not
allowed to be on any part of your body.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Really, So what's the difference of being on your knee
and say, plugged into your Apple car play and then
sitting on your glove box. What's what's the freaking difference?

Speaker 16 (29:51):
Well, I don't know, maybe something you come up with technicalities,
but there we go. I mean that was more than
we went on a GIP holiday. Very enjoyable, but it
was more than the flight.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Fines. Well, what about when I'm on the West Coast
and when I'm on the Gold Coast it's quite warm
sometimes I want to drive around with no pens on.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
You know, here we go ten thousand dollars five for you.

Speaker 16 (30:14):
But the good thing about it for me, mate, I
only got one of the tickets, the ball and change.
She got the other one.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Imagine if I had got both them.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, what was if you don't have shared bank accounts?
So well we do, we do really, but.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Yeah, got them, I know.

Speaker 16 (30:30):
Yeah, So there we go.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
What was one facts?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
What was the bigga one?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
What was there? What was the one that was both?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Both?

Speaker 12 (30:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (30:39):
And the thing about Australia, somebody you're going to have to confirm
that the gold Queensland without doubts the worst I think
that somebody's telling us five hundred and fifty for those
offenses in Western Australia and different and different in New Southwest.
But the good thing about it there over there, if
you get a two hundred dollar fine or less, you
have to pay it and one numb some but over

(31:00):
that there you can talk terms and you can pay
sixty dollars a month if I feel how to pay
them off.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Thank Christ, that is amazing, Thanks for your call, Triverer.
What I think is interesting about that? So if you
had I don't know, like a bucket of chicken on
your knee, yep, that's does that get ping by the
camera because a greasy old finger looking bucket of chicken,
your hands slipping all over the steer, grease everywhere. For me,

(31:26):
if you're not looking at your phone, it's just happened
to be sitting on your knee. I don't know. You've
got another bunch of crap in the middle. You know
you haven't committed a crime just because the phone's on
your person.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah you have if you're if you're using it, so
you reckon just a blanket, man, anything on your knee.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
No, I'm saying your chicken or your phone. I'm saying
ping someone. Absolutely talking on the phone when you're driving,
Is you know, I'm well, you know, on the hands freeze? Fine? Absolutely? Yeah?
Texting and driving bad idea, very bad idea, very very
very bad, very bad idea. But phone on your on
your lap? Who cares?

Speaker 14 (31:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
You could have anything on your lap? Yep. I mean
I'm not actually going to say on your lap. Man,
you would have believed some of the things I get him.
I'll have my dog Colin on my have you. He's
way more dangerous than the phone.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. There's some great tics coming through as well.
We'll get to a few of those very shortly. It
is sixteen to two.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I agree with Neil. It was the way you were
chortling about speed and cameras. The whole attitude was that
speeding was fine. Jackie. Well you what you have done, Jackie,
is what's in your mind You've projected onto us. Jackie
and Neil stop trying to read other people's minds.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
This is classic over analyzing. But thank you very much
for texting through.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
By the way, it is, Jackie, you're better than that.
Come on, come on, Jackie, come on, Jackie.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
A fresh take on took back. It's Matt Heath and
Taylor Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty US talks.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
The'd be good afternoon. Should n zta tell us where
these new inconspicuous speed camera vans are? That's the question
of ust to eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Hey, good news for Neil and Jackie. The texts that
were crying as they texted in. I can't believe that
their hands were probably slipping off their phone with the tears.
How upset they were that we were laughing about Flexi Man,
who was the guy that was cutting down speed cameras
in Italy. He's been caught. FLEXI man, he's got found.
He's a forty two year old worker. His name is

(33:21):
Enrico Montoyan and he has been charged with chopping down
those cameras. Yep, well done Italian police. Yeah they got them.
You're happy now, Jackie and Neil. Here we go. They
got them. Rephone on your knee in your car and
the UK is offense if you have food driving worth
if it's a sandwich, yeah, I mean boy, you know,

(33:42):
a steak and a steak like a mince and cheese pie,
piping hot mint and cheese pie in one hand.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Dangerous, very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That can be dangerous and I get it.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
With a sandwich, you know, easy to fall apart. You
need someone to help you out with your sandwich eating
when you're driving.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, Timas says, I'm with Neil and Jackie. I've been
hospitalized with outrage. It's outrageous. Do you hear me? He's
been taking hospital he was so outraged.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
That is a serious time. We are really sorry to
hear that. It's gone too far.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm sorry mate, this text sees what if I have
pants that have pictures of phones on them. It's a
terrible idea to wear pants with pictures of cell phones
on them on the Yeah, yeah, because you're going to
get pinged. You tune up to court in those pants and.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
The judge is not going to have any of it.
You know, they don't have sets of humor.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And the justice system would be one of the great
on goals. I just really love these pants. They've got
pictures of cell phones on them, but you're on it.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
It's just pictures just right to the slammer, straight to
the tasering.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Sorry anyway, Eddie, welcome to the show.

Speaker 14 (34:46):
Idea.

Speaker 18 (34:48):
So, what I was thinking about the cameras is, you know,
I've come across many situations where people see the speed
cameras for the slow for the camera and then speed
back up again. So what I thought was really effective,
and I visited Sydney last year, they have these. They
have these two cameras. One is said, about a kilometer
away from the other, so the one registers when the

(35:09):
car enters that camera, it registers it. And then when
if the car crosses the other camera before a certain
amount of time, then the camera knows that you've been
speeding through the entire distance, so that I think is
a more effective way of managing speeds on the road.
And also talking about the sandwich, I'm a nurse and
have come I've seen many accidents and the root course

(35:32):
of those distraction and with the phone on the thigh,
there's a risk that always you're picking the phone or
phone's going to pull down. There's always a risk that
your concentration is going towards the phone, and then there
is a risk of crashing into the vehicle in front
of you. So I totally agree with with why they're
fine for things like that, and I'm also safety on
the roads.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, but die, I absolutely agree if you're looking down
at your phone or texting talking on your phone, but
for whatever reason, you just happen to have your phone
on your knee if you're not using it. Also, I
mean a lot of people say why would you need
to have your phone on your knee, But who knows.
There could be a number of reasons you could have.
There could be another of reasons. Maybe I don't know,

(36:14):
who knows. I can't think of one. Yeah, to be fair, eddiot,
I can't think of one. But there will be reasons
out there. But yeah, so absolutely. Though I think eating
and driving is pretty and you've experienced at I think
that kind of distraction is quite definitely.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
We all know these carse foods and there's very unsafe
car foods. Like you said, the pie, the hot pie,
very dangerous, the open sandwich. You can't be doing that, yeah,
beg of chips, that's car safe.

Speaker 18 (36:38):
Well, I think driving driving needs full concentration whatsoever. I
don't think you should be doing anything while driving. You stop,
take a stop and eat or do whatever you want,
and when you're driving, concentrates fully on the road, and
that's that's going to stay late.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I think a lot of people forget because we drive
so much, just how incredibly dangerous driving is. And you know,
my son's getting a license a moment, idiot, and I
said to him, the most dangerous thing you are going
to do in your life is driving this car between cities.
That is the most dangerous thing. So people have to
keep in mind that that that the awesome responsibility, not

(37:14):
just your own safety, but other people, especially in New
Zealand with crazy winding roads and just being separated by paint.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very fair point. Distraction I think
is the biggest cause of excellent.

Speaker 18 (37:25):
Sorry you carry on, Yes, no, I was just saying,
it only takes seconds for an accident, so you know,
the moment you look down and look back up, you're
already in the crash and you'll probably kill yourself or
kill somebody. So that's how important it is.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you so much for you call idiot.
I would say though, most probably distracting meal to have
on your lap would be like a full roast dinner
with Yorkshire pod and beef and or maybe maybe pork crackling. Yeah, pease,
trasing them around that would be tough.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I mean it sounds delicious, but yeah, you get in
the knife and fork out why you're down the highway.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
If you're doing that, you deserve to not only be tased,
but probably put away for a few years, right if
you call it?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, thank you very much. It is eight to two
back very shortly. You're listening to Mat and Tyler good Afternoons.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight
hundred eighty eight. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
News Talks.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
The News Talks. There be five to two steven, what's
your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Hey, guys, here's are going good? Yeah, don't. I don't
think they should be published if anyone, look, I've met
I've sped at times and you just realize, you know,
your speed can get up pretty quickly. But unless anyone
has lost a family member to a road accident, not
really in a position to comment on just the effect

(38:49):
it can it can have. And your previous caller referred
specifically to the what we know as point to point cameras,
which are very common in Australia. I lived over there
for a couple of years and I was very very
aware that it wasn't the single camera that was going
to get you. It was the one five kilometers down
the road that was taking an average average speed, and

(39:09):
that is a far more effective and fear system. So no,
I wouldn't be in favor of them being publicized. But
insane that most GPS is, I mean, your Google Maps
will tell you where a speed camera is anyway through
crowd crowd location and that sort of thing. So it's yes,

(39:29):
people are still going to know to a fair degree
where they are even if they're run you know, these
roaming ones. It only takes a few people flashing their headlights,
which in some countries even that is illegal.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, thank you for you call Steven, Tyler and Matt.
There's no specific glare in the UK eating against eating
while driving. However, if you're involved in an accident, they
could deem that you were not in full control of
your vehicle and it could lead to a fine.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Oh there we go. And this one.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
What about women doing their makeup?

Speaker 12 (39:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
And Grace is that very good? What about women doing
their makeup? Yeah? Explain Johnny yourself. What about men doing
their makeup? Yeah? What's wrong with that?

Speaker 4 (40:07):
How do you do it when you're driving? Only at
the lights while you stopped? Thank you very much for
all the phone calls and texts on that one. Really
good discussion New sport and weather is coming up. It
is great to have your company as always on this
Friday afternoon, you're listening to Matt and Tyler. We will
see you afternoons.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams
afternoons news talks.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
It be very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show.
A new topic for you very very shortly.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
So I've just been you know, the victim of a
scam or an attempted scam. You know one of those
post scams that you get where they send in and say,
you know, you've a package has come for you, but
it just got slight the details wrong. Press this thing, yep,
this this link here, the weaker type of scam. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but this one has come from Lundy seven to one

(41:13):
two three n at gmail dot com.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Well that is a little bit close for comfort, isn't it,
considering what we were talking about yesterday on the show.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
But I don't know that is too much of a coincidence. Yeah, well, no,
I don't think it would be a coincidence at all.
I mean, I think whoever sending these ones out, it's
probably running an AI from overseas across what's being talked
about a lot in New Zealand at the moment. Yeah,
and so Lundy has popped up. There's probably some algorithm
that grabs some things that might you know, grab people's

(41:45):
attention or whatever it might look legit. Yeah, but they've
got this one wrong. Well, I grabbed your attention. Yeah,
But I mean I'm never going to fall for it anyone,
And I can't believe people do still fall for those
that saying that was a package being delivered, but we
need all your details to be sent through whatever. But
just funny, yeah, funny that it came through from a
LUNDI of very goods.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Do you get a few of them? Actually, you were
talking about that yesterday you were getting flooded.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Well, I'm getting absolutely hammered by people claiming that they've
got past parcels arriving. I mean, if it's ever a
Gmail address worth some words and then a whole lot
of random numbers, it's not real. Yeah. Yeah, that's an
easy one. I mean, you know, if it actually does
come from New Zealand Post, it's a very very distinctive email,

(42:33):
very official looking, and they don't ask for any information
from Sethically it's important to remember. And look, you know,
Lundy's out on parole. He's not abound to be running
a male scam. So I'm pretty sure it's not from Lundy.
I don't think he has a phone.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Yeah, So anyway, we can put that one to bed.
Let's have a chat about getting into the family business
on the back of a story. Nice story, actually, Rinaldo.
Here's fifteen year old son fourteen year old son. Rather,
he has just been selected for the under fifteen national
side in Portugal. So he's absolutely following in his father's footsteps,
following the family business, so to speak, in the world

(43:07):
of football. But we wanted to make it a bit
broader than that. On those of you listening right now
that did go into the family business, or at least
followed the same career path as one of your parents.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
I wonder if you go as well as Bronnie James.
That's not good. Bronnie James shouldn't be there anyway. That's
a whole another issue around lebron James's son playing together
in the NBA. Yeah, So going into the family business,
have you done it? What are the what are the
fish fish hooks about it? What what's it like to
be in the family business?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know, you have this idea in your head that
you'll go often and forge your own path in life.
A lot of us do. But is that the right thing?
Is it?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Is it better to you if there's a good, solid
family business, you just lean into that and and then
you make your mark on that business. And and that's
a great life, and it's a great legacy of the
family or if you do that, or you just you
what's the word giving up?

Speaker 19 (44:06):
Have you not? Have you not?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Is it just easy option? Yeah? I can see the
appeal of it.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
If it is a family business that has gone through
multiple generations and has done very well at supporting the family,
the appeal to take it over would be quite strong
because it all it's ready to go, right, I mean,
clearly you've got to have some skills involved and that
handover from the father, mother to the children.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
But it's good to go.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
You could see your future set up for you, and
there's that pride of taking on the family business that
previous generations have worked out for.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
You're a member of the Adams family, I find amusing.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
So I could.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Have guessed that you'd be a friend of a member
of the Adam's family. Works perfectly, But anyway, that's not
an issue. Your dad successful electrician? Yes, the electric company? Yep,
the electric company, great name. Were you and your brother
ever tempted to go into business with your dad and
work away with them in the van and then go
on and take over the business.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
There was a point that I actually was looking seriously
into following him into becoming a sparky but Dad, and
strangely for Dad, and I think running his own business,
he came up against a whole bunch of challenges and
people letting him down. It wasn't fun for Dad for
a long time there with his business. So he said
to me and my brothers that I don't want you
to get into a trade. I will if you get

(45:28):
into a profession where you use your brain instead of
your hands, I will buy each of you a car.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
And he did. We took the car right.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yeah, it was a nice Sabari legacy actually nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So he thought that you were so useless that he
would pay you off with a car rather than have
you getting into the trade.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I told you what happened with the jib. Will you
know when I accidentally cut the wrong hole and he
came in and absolutely flipped out. But yeah, it was
a strange thing, and I think he thought it was
hard graft. And whether that was the experience of everybody
that gets into a trade, clearly it's not. Clearly that
is a very very good career choice for a lot
of people.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Maybe a few years ago now the trades weren't held
in the same level of respect they are now and
now I think every parent would be stoked if their
kids went into the trades.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Well.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Also a big part of it was granddad was a sparky.
So dad actually did follow the family business and followed
his dad into the career path of being a sparky.
And maybe that's a part that he slightly regretted that
maybe he did want to do something slightly.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Different, but he was very successful. What do you well,
I'd love to hear from these family these family companies.
What's it like to be the parent bringing your kid through.
What's it like to be the kid working with your
parent and a company. What's it like also to be
a person that's maybe taken on their dad's company or
built a company up themselves, or taken over their mum's
company or whatever, and then would love to keep it

(46:49):
in the family, But you just see your kids having
no interest in it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Love to hear your experiences.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
A lot of people have been getting this Lundy spam
as well. Oh there we go, so not just you.
This person said I got the Lundy spam too, told
them to f off politely, don't do that. Yeah, don't
respond at all. That's what they want when you get
the Lundy spam and you and you reply to it, Yeah,
that's what they want. They've got yeah, but they want
your detail. Yeah. So just if it looks like a scam, yeah,

(47:17):
delete it, report it, don't touch it.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yeah, don't take the bait. Do not take the bait.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Don't take the bait of telling that you're for that's
what they want. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
And to this text from Ryan Tyler, your hands will
be too soft to be a sparky.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, quite right.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
You know, I'm very proud of my soft tends.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
And for this text that says, Matt was it fosh
hooks or fishhocks? It was fush hooks. Yeah, I'm in
New Zealander. Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've gone
into the family business, love to hear from you. It
is fourteen bus two.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons. Call,
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
Zed B.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
News Talk ZED. Be great to have your company on
this Friday afternoon. We're talking about getting into the family business.
It was loosely related to a story about Ronaldo's son.
He is fourteen years old, just been selected for the
under fifteen Portugal side. So followed this old man into
the family business of football. Hopefull he is successful.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, I'll talk about my dad's attempts to get me
to follow him into the family business. Ander. But Greg,
you followed your dad into his industry.

Speaker 8 (48:19):
Yeah, I did. I was twenty and on the same
day I remember it well, my dad offered me a
job in business that he earned fifty percent on, and
my mate offered me he was going on an iwa
you in six months, and I had to make a
decision about what I was going to do. So I
did in brackets this a sensible thing, and went and

(48:40):
went to my dad for the next sort of ten years.
The problem was, after ten years Dad retired and all right,
this is the first time. So I worked my guts
out for ten years. The company was really successful while
I was there. When it came to Dad to retire,
here was a clause in the contract that he was

(49:00):
a business partner, that he had to sell his heart
to his business partner first. We had to give him
the first right. So long story short, I've worked on
this place for ten years and it wasn't something I've
really wanted to do it. I wanted to be a
hope builder, but but he was in the printing industry
and it's sort of where I where I spent my
first teen years and ended up just being another word

(49:23):
for it. Benefit to your owned by someone else.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
That's pretty rough. And how did that? I mean did
your dad mustn't have liked that either.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
Well, it sort of worked out financially because he ended
up selling to a business part of away more than
the company was worse and then gave me a whole
lot of cash to start my own place. So financially,
that's sort of what he did, the sort of right
thing by me, if it makes sense. But yeah, I
always my biggest releet is not doing that oway when
I was young, I would have done it, if I.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Know, I see it's saying. And was your family name
on the business?

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Yes? Right, I started the business and then this other
guy brought in ah, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And with that money that your dad gave you from
from from you know, selling half the business to his
other business partner. Did you go into the same business
or a different business when you when you spend that
so where a.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
Print is more started to think more of a die
cutting side. I ended up going into the book business side,
so it didn't really compete. What's the old company? Yeah
so so same same sort of industry, but slightly different
sort of screams. So, yeah, if you were going to
do that, I'll find out exactly what the rules are

(50:37):
when it comes to you.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yeah. Yeah, so you so you know if you're going
to spend a lot of your time in that business
that you do actually have the possibility of becoming yours
and continuing on the name.

Speaker 8 (50:48):
And I worked like a dog when I I thought
there was something marriage And.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
How big was the business? Greed? Did you have many employees?

Speaker 8 (51:02):
It was about the steam in league business found a lot,
but it was a good day. The printing industry is
to make a few bucks.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah, And how did it go? So without the family DNA,
without your dad or you involved in the business. And
it sounds like you were working at your guts out
and you and I if you were, it was probably
you probably got it from your dad once you two
were out of the business. How did the business go?

Speaker 8 (51:26):
Well? Like the whole frinding industry collect even the place
of the book finding. Oh, I didn't do so well
after the GSC all my commercial printing company customers will
win out of business and I'm no longer. There'd be
a three percent of the people in the printing industry
now because of technology and frames and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
You know.

Speaker 8 (51:48):
So so the other company is still around, but it's
just a blot on what it was. And Beck and
the heyday, so, you know, not just it just really
put me too. I had to look after my little
bill the other day, and my wife's aggestioned I go
down to whehouse and buyers.

Speaker 20 (52:03):
So I did that.

Speaker 8 (52:04):
Came home with their dollars with the stocks and two
hundred dollars with the negos. If you ever come to it,
if you ever come to her house, sni for yourself, Tilot,
is you going to get an absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
What did you buy?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Greg?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
What was the Lego?

Speaker 8 (52:18):
I bought them? I'm under the as I bought the
Miraica's cup.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I looked at that. I looked at that. I was
I was looking at that at the Lego store when
I bought the Endurance the other day. Sheckleton's ship but
I was weighing up between those those two things. No,
that's a that's a beautiful that's a beautiful piece of legos.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
So like you are such a more on an.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I think my partner quite likes me just you know,
beaving away in the corner with my lego and leaving
her alone.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Man's just playing with his lego for another hour, and
it gives me some space. Craig, you're a good man.
Thank you very much. All right, have a good weekend.
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of call.
Did you go into the family business or was there
a bit of pressure or the potential for you to
go into the family business and you decided not to.
I think things have changed a lot over the last.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Twenty thirty years.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Traditionally it would be quite common to follow your father
or your mother into their chosen career.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, and I would love it if I
had it. You know, I've got a couple of businesses,
but I don't think my kids can really follow me in.
But I've been talking with one of my sons about
starting a business together, just a little business. Well, well
he's going through university because I think I mean probably
from a parent's perspective. I'm not sure if it's as

(53:34):
much of a dream from the kids perspective, but working
with your with your with your sons. Yeah, having an
old Matthew and Sons company, it's got a lovely name
to it. I love the idea of that.

Speaker 14 (53:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call, love to hear your stories on this one.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Twenty two pas.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Two matd Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Good afternoon is twenty four past two, and we're talking
about getting into the family business or following your parents
into their chosen trade. Was it something you did?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Sticky ones. The parents hate talking about succession and just
give you the old line, it'll be yours one day.
Then they drop dead. And no matter what it says
in the will, and even if you have been the
one that slogged their guts out on it your whole life,
your lazy siblings are entitled to their share and you
have to sell the farm and it's all gone. That
is freaking tragic. Yeah, when that happens here, you know,

(54:31):
especially if it's been in you know, because the amount
of work that people put into a farm, the amount
of you know, blood, sweat and tears people put into
running their farm. And you know, if you think you yeah,
and then just to have to sell it because your
kids are your brothers and sisters are useless city folk
that you hear about that so often they shop to
London and they want the millions of dollars out of

(54:53):
the farm just to live their disgustingly vacuous city life. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you took
over the family farm, love to hear from you. And
did you have a situation similar to that where you
were the one of the siblings who wanted to get
into far.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You didn't join the family business, Andrew, but you took
your father's advice to get into the trades.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
Yeah, the teenage lad. It was possibly the first time
I ever thought my father was right about anything, as
I was going stir crazy at college thinking I don't
want to set exams and I've still got another year
to go. Oh god, Dad was right, I should get
a trade. And I was the youngest of three boys

(55:35):
and only one who took his advice, and I think
it was definitely the making of me. He was an electrician,
I'm a plumber, and I just couldn't see myself going
to OH I thought I was going to university, and
then couldn't stand the thought of the classroom, a little
oone in a lecture room, let alone an office. So
that's why, all of a sudden I thought he was right.

(55:58):
And then I even thought I couldn't be a builder,
being stuck on the one site forever.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
So your first plumbing.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
Was the plumbing was the ideal solution in the end,
when I turned up to the interview and I said,
I got to say to him before I die that,
but before he died that his advice is probably what
it has allowed to be to be such a happy person.
I can't imagine going to education, or working in an office,

(56:26):
or just doing any job that you hate and managing
to be happy in the rest of your life. Whereas
I'm fifty seven, I love going to work, I love
my job, I love helping my clients, and I'm happy
twenty four seven.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
That's an awesome story. That's an awesome story, And how
great are your dad to hear that you know that
would make a father so happy if son said, you know,
thank you for that advice, because it made my life.
I can't imagine hearing.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
A couple of times. Yeah, and he's got three sons,
and as much as I'm the only one who's a tradesman,
Dad was self employed where my oldest brother was born
and when I was born. Four years later he went
back on wages as an electrician for the National grid basically,
and he was never self employed again. But all three

(57:17):
of his sons are self employed running successful businesses. So yeah,
he was very proud.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
That's really really cool because that's the other thing, like
you may not follow your parents into their business, but
you see what they do and what the world that
they operate and opens up your mind in that area.
So if you've never seen anyone run their own business,
and that's slightly harder, you know, if you're from a
family where people run their own businesses, you're more likely
to run your own own own business. You know, it's

(57:44):
less scary in as people that you can ask questions about.
So you say, you're fifty seven, have you got kids, Andrew.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
I've got adults.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I've got adult kids, and are they all walking? They
are all part of Andrew and Sons Plumbing.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
No, they are not part of Andrew the Plumber, a
part from when they do jobs for free for them.
I've just done one of the john I've installed six
showery because of my life and now thanks to my daughter,
I've also installed one shoves so.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Well that one of the best, one of the best
things that you can do for your family. As being
a trade yeah, so useful, so useful.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
For my new wife has two sons for builders, and
one of them's basically well six months short of being
a qualified mechanic. And so we've got quite a network
of trade available to us. And we are useful people.
And I find that with my clients most people appreciate
tradesmen for what they can do that they can't do,

(58:48):
and that alone is gives you warm fuzzies to agree.
I've had very few bad customers or bad payers or disputes.
It's like people know what they're capable of doing as
opposed to what I'm capable of doing. And and it's

(59:09):
like me, I pay an electrician to do my electrical work,
I pay an accountant to do my accounting, and I
stick to plumbing. Yeah, I don't even try and six cards.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
So I was actually listening to this podcast. I wish
I could I look up the name of the guy,
but he was. He was arguing that we've become too
much of you know, the old saying, what is it,
jack of trades, master of none or whatever it is,
And he's saying that that's becoming more and more the case.
And if you just focus on one thing, you know,
you could probably be eighty percent of a lot of things,

(59:42):
but that extra twenty percent you can be if you
just focus on that one thing that you become very
good at, and that's your thing, that is actually a
huge advantage over the other people that are trying to
do every every little thing in this world. So it
sounds like you got that nailed. Hey, now, Andrew, did
you and your dad? So he's an aultrition to plumber.
Did you guys ever end up working on the same site.

Speaker 9 (01:00:04):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
Dad was always on wages. Yeah, my entire life growing
up and through a degree. I joked about it sometimes
on site. I don't think he taught me a single
thing about electricity. So all I limit myself to is
wiring up a pre wire hot water cylinder or a
power lead or changing a firmostat and an element. And

(01:00:25):
apart from that, I don't go near the stuff. I
always joke that electricity is witchcraft, and electricity kills you
quickly and plumbing kills you slowly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
So that yeah, very true.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Wise advice, Andrew, thank you very much, just on the
you know, getting into the trade situation, and great advice
from Andrew's old man, but different advice from my dad.
I wonder if there was a time there that trades
fell off a little bit, that they weren't the salary
wasn't quite keeping up with some of the other professions
out there, so it was maybe a smarter idea to

(01:01:01):
try and get to UNI if you if you've got
a direction.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
There was an idea, and I don't know how it
got embedded that going to university was the answer for everything,
and so the whole push of New Zealand changed. We
were saying, if your kids go to university, they're succeeding.
You can celebrate that. And so a lot of kids
went to university, but they ended up with stupid degrees
like me anthropology and philosoph philosophy degrees like I've got. Yeah,
absolutely worthless degrees. And meanwhile, the trades, which were being

(01:01:29):
sort of locked down on from snobbily from elite people
that were going to the universities, actually grew and became
so much more powerful because the idea that everyone should
go to universities is ridiculous. People should go to university
if they want to, but a lot of going to
the university is just luxury learning.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Yeah, exactly, And some of those degrees, you know, take
your eight nine years to complete, rack up a massive
student loan, and then you get into your first job
and it would pay far less than a lot of
the trades would.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you got into the family business.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Love to chat with you, or if, like Andrew, you
took your parent's advice into what to go into in
life and did that work out or not. One hundred
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Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Raylan, we're talking about getting into the family business. Was
it a career path you decided on. Was there some
ambition to get into what your parents were doing o
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It kicked off from
Ronaldo's son, who was getting into Ronaldo's family.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Business of football.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
But we're obviously taking it a lot broader than that,
and we've heard from a lot of people who listened
to their parents' advice and it worked out for them.

Speaker 14 (01:04:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I was interesting with my dad. He was quite clean
for me to get into the family business. Well, you know,
we grew up on a farm, but my dad was
also a doctor. Yeah, and he was quite keen for
me the end of the family business. And I picked
my subjects at school, you know, a lot of chemistry
and maths in there, just to keep my options open
for being a doctor. But it was just a huge
There was just this little problem. I was really thick,

(01:04:23):
and so there was no chance of me ever becoming
a doctor.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Is that a little problem or a big problem?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 19 (01:04:31):
Goodhapp And then how are you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
So?

Speaker 19 (01:04:34):
I was lucky enough to have a family business that
was quite large in New Zealand, which is now being solved.
But being the firstborn child, it was all going to
university and you needed to have both, you know that
accolade and do what you needed to do. I obviously
started business and marketing, did psychology, and then did viticulture

(01:04:56):
and kind of started to realize that Dad was more
interested in the actually people that had the experience over
the piece of paper. But as I was doing these degrees,
as I was getting through them, because the world was
changing so fast, my degree was kind of not really
keeping up with the time. So it was the kind

(01:05:19):
of a back and forth thing where I was sitting. Obviously,
the last degree that I did went into the family business,
and you know, I went overseas to Gongjao and lived
in there and did some amazing things. But it's definitely
something where I think the university is definitely the lawyers,
the doctors and no sorts of things. But I found

(01:05:42):
from my experience working in a family business that the
experience that I was getting, you know, right down from
swooping the floors, you know, right through to the top,
was a faster progression than it was having a piece
of paper behind me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, absolutely so was it as any times at all
when you used what you learned at university.

Speaker 19 (01:06:06):
Well, you like to say, look, there are definite benefits
to it and those sorts of things. But I think
with the world changing so quickly these days, that all
due respect to the university, so I just don't think
they're keeping up with the changes. And I think by
the time you finish your degree, you're kind of then

(01:06:29):
having to learn new and it's yeah, so I think
do the university thing. If you've got a family business,
that's going to help you. But if you've got a
family business and it can get you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Through it a bit quicker work every part of it.
Do you mind me asking about what area of your
family business is in.

Speaker 16 (01:06:48):
Wine? Wine culture?

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean you're in an incredible
position to learn every single part of it if your
family is running that. I mean, you've got experts walking
around that you can you know, you've probably got the
best best teachers in the entire world around you to
learn from.

Speaker 19 (01:07:10):
Absolutely. I even learned how to clovern shoots, so I
mean that was impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
That's a hell of a skill. What I found an
interesting maw with university. So I did a degree in
did a degree in philosophy and anthropology. But when I
came to write my book, it's a book arguably a
lot of it's on philosophy. And I went back to
write the book and I thought, I've got a degreeund philosophy.

(01:07:35):
And I realized, in my entire time at university doing this,
I hadn't learned a single freaking thing. And I was like,
I must have studied this. And I went back and
I was like, I did study all the stuff, but
there's something about university where you don't actually learn it.
And I think particularly, and this might be different across
other degrees. People can tell me, but philosophy at university
is very involved in semantics, opposed to philosophy being used

(01:07:57):
for how you might want to live your life and
actually losing using it for, you know, for a you know,
some lessons on how you could apply people's thinking into
living the good life, if you mean more like a
contest of ideas.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
When you're at university, you get presented with these philosophical
arguments to debate and consider, rather than implement them in
your own life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
So that's what I'm saying. I think this can be
across a lot of different things, and probably the same
with mel. You've got these studies, but they aren't actually
related in any way to the practical application of the
job or in the real world. Yeah, yeah, hey, thank
you so much. Now you go, mal.

Speaker 19 (01:08:37):
I was just going to say, you definitely do learn
something you come out of the university. It's not a
degree that anyone can obviously give a paper two, but
it's definitely you learn how to do your washing, definitely
know how to do a yardglass, and definitely know how
to relate to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
A It's important life skills. All three of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
You learn you learn edwards scrumpy hands and if you're
at Target university, I don't mean you learn possuming. Possuming
I haven't heard this. Possuming is when you climb up
into a tree with your friends and you with a
bunch of alcohol and you drink up there until you
fall out. All right. This sounds similar to hermit. Did
you ever do the hermit? Oh, when you go into
your cupboard in your room.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Yeah, so everyone goes into one room and just hides
themselves away and drinks until you finished the dozen and
come out. Crazy times, but good times.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
It is look, that's well worth in giant student loan
you give for it eighteen to three.

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Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
That'd be very good afternoon to you. We are discussing
going into the family business or did you listen to
the advice of your parents in terms of which career
to go into if they encouraged you into a trade
or an apprenticeship. Love to hear from you. On eight
hundred and eighty ten.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Eighty, John says, you're right to be skeptical of you
need degrees. My daughter has a PhD in micro The
further up the education ladder, the narrow the job opportunities
in New Zealand. For her there are two government research
places or go tech more micro students at a UNI.
Sadly she works and is flourishing offshore and won't be back.

(01:10:17):
She's now applying for citizenship in her new country. Very
good point.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Yeah, hijie. How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 17 (01:10:25):
Hey good man, very good, thank you, good to chat.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
So what's your story? Did you get encouraged to pick
a particular career.

Speaker 17 (01:10:32):
Path oh, yeah, very much.

Speaker 13 (01:10:34):
So.

Speaker 17 (01:10:34):
My dad was a class for tyler in Fakatani back
in the day. Yep, he'd had his own business for
quite a few years and my older brother myself got
dragged to work in school holidays, which I hated, but
it certainly puts that work ethic into my brain. When

(01:10:56):
I finally left school, I wasn't doing so well at school,
but like match now it was over. It wasn't into
doing exams or anything. So I left the beginning of
fifth form. This is in nineteen eighty. Partly my teachers
were saying, well, you're probably not going to do so well,
so if you can find a job, so I did.
I took that opportunity. And I didn't want to be

(01:11:18):
a class retiler with my dad because he treated me
like his son at work, if you know what I mean.
It's got all the dirty job through this thing. But
I really want to be a carpenter. So I got
myself an apprenticeship as a joiner. It's a joiner, so
that really set me up for the rest of my life. Actually,

(01:11:40):
it's sort of only taken me three years to finish
my apprenticeship, but it's me nearly four because halfway through
I was a bit of a free spirits and I
was going first thing instead of going to work. But
my dad sat me down, he goes, you need to

(01:12:00):
finish this, you need to get your trade. So I did,
and I'm still working in that trade today.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Dead. Fantastic on your dad, except for the bit where
he's making you do all the hard stuff because you
were a son and didn't want to seem.

Speaker 14 (01:12:20):
To be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
That's how it works.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
And if you're the laborer and the son of the
business owner, you you did hard raft.

Speaker 17 (01:12:29):
Absolutely absolutely. But my older brother, you know, he's a
couple of a couple of years old and me, he
ended up taking over dad's business and dead retired and
did very well out of it himself and ended up
employing quite a few boys. Especially after the Inscom earthquake,
he suddenly had to employ quite a few stuff. You

(01:12:51):
had two years work booked up with all the cracks
on the walls. Imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Oh, well, good on your dad.

Speaker 14 (01:12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I mean that is the thing though about apprenticeships. They
can drift and drift and drift, can't they Because because
you're working and then you want to live, you of
your life and you and your share and doing the
extra stuff is just hard to get you.

Speaker 21 (01:13:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:13:11):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:13:12):
At the time, you know, a good friend here's going
on on a soe and I was so keen to
go with him. But I was halfway through my apprenticeship.
And that's when Dad sat me down and us, look,
if you do that, you're going to come back with
to no job. Stick it out for another year or two.
You've got to be able to work for whoever you want.

(01:13:33):
That's true because exactly you know, and just sticking out
that apprenticeship and finishing its future employees, employers, I should say,
really like that. They go, Okay, this person stuck at
their job for three or four years. Difference you did you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Did you think about setting up your own own business
with joinery hijik?

Speaker 10 (01:13:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:13:58):
Yeah, Actually I got out of the factory, the old
the dust, and that didn't agree with me, especially with
the building of the kitchen. So now the NDS it's
pretty bad on the old lad. But I've been self
employed on and off for a number of years now,
mostly doing maintenance work. So I've worked with carpenters, I've

(01:14:18):
worked on building high rises and all sorts of different
aspects of the timber trades, but I've decided that the
maintenance is the one for me. There's small, small jobs
in an ounce in a day or less. I like
the variety, anything from fixing a door that's fallen off
as cinders to putting a painting on the wall or

(01:14:39):
whatever people want. You know a lot of There's so
many people out there, either it's got that much money
that they don't want to do it. In South they
don't want to hang that picture, or a retired person
who's outly and their draws not working properly. Well, that's
where I come in. I can easily fix that for them.
So there's plenty of work out there for that time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Love it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
You'd be a popular man in the family, hygie with
those skills.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:15:03):
Well, Mum and dad don't around anymore, and my brothers
moved to Australia. And I've got a sister in christ
Church and whenever I visit, she's got quite a big list.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yea bet she does. Good on your mate and good
on your dad.

Speaker 15 (01:15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Absolutely, finish the finish that apprenticeship. If you're on it,
just go hard and get it done. Finish the job
you started. I get involved in the Apprentice of the
Year awards every year, and there's always stories of people
that just let it drift, and then you've got the
ones that just get it done and you just move
on to that other level. Yeah, exactly. Oh, e one
hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
It is nine to three. Back very shortly here on
News TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
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Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
News Talks AB.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Very good afternoon to you were talking about going into
the family business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Some great techs have come through my family business situation.
As my father died suddenly, none of my siblings wanted
to step up. One is in the same ministry. I
ended up having to become director. I have no experience
in the industry and I'm trying to complete the ongoing
works from another city. Yeah, that sounds stressful work in
a family business with parents and brother have worked in
it since school holidays, from floor sweeper to labor to drive, etc.

(01:16:16):
Now management twenty four years since sixteen, full time. Great
challenges and opportunities, but what could have been very successful business,
so very comfortable, but I encourage kids to pursue other
options as we cannot bring them to the work for
h andsbs that is today, and we could go to
work with our father suffered the boss's son issues of

(01:16:39):
the time where PC was not a thing, but survived.
Kids today cannot see so many jobs as cannot go
to work in the holidays, etc.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Yeah, and this text, guys, I'm a twenty five year
old male, have been working at my father's business for
the last five years. I've wanted to leave, but the
business would fail if I do, which would leave my
parents in a bad situation.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
So that's tough, isn't it. Trapped? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, I mean when you are emotionally connected to the job.
I mean we're all the most connected to a job,
but you know, you emotionally connected on a family DeVault
job harder to make ruthless decisions. Joe, your thoughts. You
didn't you didn't follow the family business.

Speaker 16 (01:17:20):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 21 (01:17:21):
My father was Italian and he was in the restaurant business.
We worked well, We volunteered as children in the business
and I was in Europe though, and we none of
us liked it. We founded two the clients who are
always demanding and annoying and stressful, and so we didn't

(01:17:44):
like it. However, I decided to against my parents will
to go into studies, university studies, and I have to disagree.
So I didn't study philosophy and anthropology. I did read
a lot of books on that, but I have to disagree.
For me, philosophy anthropology are one of the best things

(01:18:07):
one can are in a university because it opens the
mind and frankly it's what's needed, especially nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Well, thank you for so much for that, Joe. Yeah,
I mean I studied them at university. But I guess
my point, Joe, was that I didn't learn anything until
I went back and read philosophy and anthropology on my
own time, and then I absolutely learned a lot. But
you might be right that the base might have been there. Hey, Joe,
quickly when you say volunteered in the restaurant, volunteered for

(01:18:37):
your parents, or forced to work in there.

Speaker 8 (01:18:40):
No, we were forced to work.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yeah, yeah, volunteering in their parents restaurant. But it doesn't happen.
It's a family slave labor. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Hey, thank you very much to everyone who phoned and
text on that discussion. Coming up New Zealander of the Week.
Well it be News and Sport coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Zebby good afternoon to you, welcome back into the show.
Very shortly, we want to talk about collections that turn
into and obsession. A woman in Australia. She has now
got the Keenness World Record for the largest Minion memorabilia collection.
Pretty insane really, but right now it is seven past three.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on zeb we
name the New Zealander of the Week in honor that
we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who's had
an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over
the previous week. As always, there'll be three nominees but
only one winner. So without further ado, the nominees for
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Street and a few days later was returned home safe
and sound. And if he hadn't crapped and pistol over
the seats, he might have won New Zealand of the Week.
But he still gets a nom Ranger the Wicker bless
you for your epic illegal fecal journey across the Alps.

(01:20:13):
You are nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 12 (01:20:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Nominee two also gets the Let's All tas of the
Tall Poppy Award. This week, an ex prime minister appeared
on this very radio station to say he thought New
Zealand had a lot to feel positive about that with
the right attitude, our best is still ahead of us.
In response, three hundred and twenty four people texted Matton
Tyler Afternoons to tell him to shut up because he
is rich and according to them, we shouldn't listen to
successful self made people for proving that the great KeyWe

(01:20:40):
knocking machine is still operational. In twenty twenty five, Sir
John Key, you are nominated for Matton Tyler Afternoon's New
Zealander of the Week. Run shut up, you successful bastard.
But there could be only one New Zealand of the
Week and the winner also gets the Smoke Him if
you've got him award. The White Smokers billowing out of
the Sistine Chapel and Leo the fourteenth is the new Pope.

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And there's even a local connection. Our boy from Wellington,
Cardinal John Dyue, was over there voting intently, had a
zero point seventy five percent chance of getting the job.
He didn't, but he's still got to bang around the
conclave at an historic time, which is pretty cool for
a Kiwi. So congratulations to Cardinal John Jue and New
Zealand's four hundred and fifty thousand Catholics. You have a
new Pope with a lovely popy face on the staff celebration.

(01:21:25):
You are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of
the Week. I should have known Cardinal John ju wouldn't
get the job, so we're never going to make a
Jew pope. Congratulations all New Catholics on your day of celebration.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Matt and Taylor who.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Another fantastic winner of New Zealander of the Week this week.
Fantastic right, So coming up very shortly, let's have a
chat about your collections that may have turned into a
bit of an obsession. So this woman, as we mentioned,
she's over in Australia and she has got the Kinness
World Record for the largest minion memorabilia, which is crazy.

(01:22:21):
I mean, that's disappointing from Guinness World Records.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Shameful, shameful, shameful to be collecting minions. And look, is
that what we need to do? Do we need to
shame people for collecting things more? And do you want
to do that? Well, her husband is collecting stupid stuff,
or your wife is collecting stupid stuff, or your friends
are collecting stupid stuff. I wait, undred eighty ten eighty
is it time to shame them? Because what do we
get out of what do we get out of collecting things? Well?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
I mean funny that you mentioned the shaming aspect, Matt,
because you're quite the collector, and I understand that maybe
there has been a little bit of shaming in your household.

Speaker 17 (01:22:58):
There is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
I'm being shamed for my collecting and I appreciate it. Yeah,
I was collecting it. Sports hat I've got about I've
got so many. I've probably got fifty Dodgers hat, I've
got hundreds and hundreds of caps. I just if I'm
watching any kind of sporting fixture and the team I'm
sporting does well. Before I know it, I'm online, I'm
ordering the hat, I forget about it, and then the

(01:23:19):
little boxes arrive with three hats at the door, and
then I have to sneak them in and hide them.
There's a whole cupboard full of hats. It's an absolute disaster.
I think I deserve to be shamed for my collection.
You do. And recently my lovely partner Tracy brought me
a turntable reconditioned nineteen seventy nine technics. It's absolutely beautiful.

(01:23:39):
When I went into the good people at av World
to get the amp and such sortid to connect with
my son speakers with the digitizer of the hub, they
said to me, look, you are running a Ferrari and
second gear with these speakers, which I took as a
massive compliment. You want to hear. But as a result
of back into Vinyl, I've just got boxes of little

(01:24:02):
pizza boxes. They look like arriving every day with Vinyl
in it, and I'm back collecting that. I need to
be shamed colllectand because I'll just collect and collecting, collect
and collect, and it's like being an octopus. You know,
octopuses collect shiny things. You're a kia.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
You're like a little magpie.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Yeah, yeah, a little magpie. And it's not right. So
this minion woman, we shouldn't be celebrating her. We should
be shaming her for a stupid one thousand minions and
give us a book of records. Why are they what
does it need to be a record of minions?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Why are they encouraging this? I mean it's almost you
need an ultimatum mat that for every vinyl you get,
you've got to give.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Up a hat. How would you feel about that? Well, yeah, exactly,
but no, but there's a one in one out roll
in my house now in my hat. That's why I
think I've moved on to the records. Yeah, because you
can store more of them well without away one line out.
And so every time I get a new hat now
I have to painfully get rid of one, which just
stop me ordering it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
We've done over one hundred and twenty shows and I
haven't seen the same hat twice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
It's always a different hat.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
So you've got more than one hundred and twenty hats
at least oh one hundred eighty ten eighty love to
hear about your collections that you've got and the obsessions
that you've got. But more importantly, if there is someone
in your household that you just want to shame a
little bit for being a little bit over the top
and crazy, give us a buzz.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Hey, guys, my husband has over two five hundred VW
models on display in our garret.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Wow, that is slightly impressive but also obsessive. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It
is thirteen past three, good afternoon, and we're talking about
collections that verge on to obsessions. This is after an
Australian woman she has been awarded the Guinness World Record

(01:25:38):
for the largest Minion memorabilia collection. So she reached down
to the Guinness World Record and said, I don't think
anyone's got more Minion crap than me, And they came
around and said, yeah, you're quite right, we're going to
give you the Guinness World Record for that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Is collecting things unhealthy. As the Buddha said, joy comes
not through possessions or ownership, both through a wise and
loving heart. So you know, vandetha gut mah. He knows
what he was talking about. Come through positions, the positions
own you. Yeah, you know, and then you've got to
find places, and you've gotta have arguments with your partner
about them. Why don't you listen to the boodom this

(01:26:17):
Texas says. My wife colicks those humiliating teaspoons with tourist
spots and royal family members on the top of them.
I refuse to even look at them. She must have
over a thousand. I was thinking of faking a burglary
to get rid of them, but then she just bankrupt
us getting more. My husband collects fishing magazine, hundreds and
hundreds of them. They're all the same. What's the point. Well,
you know, there's different kinds of magazines. It could be collecting,

(01:26:38):
so you know, thank you, Like he stars, it's just
fishing magazines.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Absolutely, Abel, Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 8 (01:26:45):
Oh hi guys, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Great to chat with you. So tell us what have
you got? This is your collection?

Speaker 8 (01:26:51):
Yes, it's a game called Warhammer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
There's a few different Yeah, my kids are into this.

Speaker 8 (01:26:58):
Yeah. I've got the old school sort of kind of
Lord of the Ring style, things like elves and dragons
and monsters and things like that. And then I've got
some of the more so fire ones, which is the
kind of guys in space with guns and yep, things
like that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Yeah, they're pretty cool. Are you. Are you playing playing
the Warhammer game with the ruler and such or is
it just just collecting them?

Speaker 8 (01:27:26):
No dice rulers? Yeah, things like that. You get ten
plates and stuff when you have big explosions and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I look, I'm going to support you on this Warhammer
collecting because I think they're very cool. When my kids
got into them, I liked it because they'd be in
their rooms under the under the big their lamps, painting
up the figures, and it seemed quite creative. It's not
a passive. It's not a passive collection because you know
you're painting them. You're painting yours up. Are you able?

Speaker 12 (01:27:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:27:57):
Yeah, you paint the mark, you make, you make the
terrain and the scenery, you write stories about the characters
and things like that. It's kind of ye.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
See, I think this is cool because it's creative, but
also you're using them to compete, you're playing a game
with them. It's not just collecting things. Because you've got
a weird obsession, and then hiding them with the garage
because you can't stop, like some kind of octopus, taking
them to the bottom of the ocean. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
I saw a whole bunch of people playing at Able
at the my local workmen's club back and christ Church,
and we were there playing Paul and they were in
this other room and I said, what's going on here?
And I sat and watched and it was fascinating, such
a great game.

Speaker 8 (01:28:32):
Yeah, it was that the Wolveston Club.

Speaker 22 (01:28:34):
Yeah, you're onto it, Yeah you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Y oh, maybe I was watching you play.

Speaker 8 (01:28:41):
No, I don't hang out with those.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Guys, the nerds.

Speaker 8 (01:28:45):
They look like bad news, to be fair, their troublewakers
sometimes thereeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Right, yeah, yeah, this is a problem.

Speaker 8 (01:28:52):
Yeah, the thing is next with beer and chips.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Yeah, spot on, that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Wolveston bo beer chips and Warhammer. It sounds a right
to me. But you know, people that dame. Before my
kids got into Warhammer, I didn't know too much about
it, and I'd always walked past the shops in malls or
in stores, and I're like, this thing must be big,
because there are Warhammer shops everywhere so it's it's there's
a lot of you Warhammer clicked. It's out there able.

Speaker 8 (01:29:14):
Oh, it's massive, Like I think Games Workshop, which is
the parent company, you're like the biggest company in the
UK at the moment. They're just yeah, they're just churage
and yeah, and you can get sort of there's lots
of different games. You've got like a big table with
five hundred figures on it sort of fighting, or you
get little versions where there's you know too, you've just

(01:29:35):
got ten guys and girls that fight and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
All right, and you're excited about Henry Cavill's you Warhammer show.
That's Warhammer a show that's coming along.

Speaker 8 (01:29:46):
Very excited. Yeah, because he's about a million times more
into it than me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Yeah, that's the great thing about that. That's a great
thing about him, isn't he He's a total nerd. He's
he's the world's buffest, best looking nerd. He absolutely loves
loves the stuff. He's into Warhammer. And what was the
TV show he was in that way? It went massive
on the Witcher, which off the rails when he didn't
have control.

Speaker 8 (01:30:10):
Yeah, and now we've got one of the hymns were
doing it for the last season.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yeah, and how much to reckon you have sunk into
this hobby of yours able?

Speaker 8 (01:30:21):
I would say at least ten k's because you have
to buy. You have to buy like the figures and
then you have to buy the paints and multiple you
know things to help you painting, like good lights and
paint versions were expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
And have you one if you go one of those
you know looking glasses. You know there's special ones like
a jeweler that you look through for the painting.

Speaker 8 (01:30:45):
No, but my brother in law has to use magnifying glass.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was the word. That was
the word I was desperately searching for. I got to
look at glasses as they got.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
Steady hands like a surgeon, I imagine able.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Yes, whiskey helped, right, Okay, well I disapprove this. I
disapprove of this Australian woman and it's stupid Minion's collection.
But approve of your collection a book? So not that
your approval Yeah yeah, I mean not that means anything,
it means anything at all, But you've got it. Okay,

(01:31:20):
good to chat.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
I eatee hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear about say,
your collections at home and the discussions that you have
with your family members about these collections that verge on obsessions.
Ide hundred eighty ten eighty years and number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
This is a problem. I don't approve of this. This
Texas is My wife collects Crocs, shares about fifty five
peers of them. Help. Yeah, how many pairs of Crocs
do you need? I mean I went into the Crocs
store the other day, Yeah, because because Tracy was buying some.
There are so many Crocks now and Crocs have gone
miles away from just the standard brief. Yeah, they have
got Crocs with heels. There's so many different types of Croxy.

(01:31:55):
I think Crocs has jumped the shark.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Yeah, well, one pair of Crocs is too much in
my view. I eatee hundred and eighty one peer. You know,
everyone needs one pier.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
You got your Crocs on today, no winter out of
somewhat one pair of Crocs. But Crocs have going away
from their brief of just a comfy shore with the
when you know, put the sports mode down. But yeah,
fifty five ps too many? Yeah? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is twenty two past three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
We're talking about your obsessive collections that you've got. An
Australian woman would certainly fit that category. She has won
the Guinness World Record awarded. I should say you don't
win one of those. She's been awarded the Guinness World
Record for her collection of minions. That that crazy little
I mean, it was a good movie, but have a
fifty two year old woman.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Well, how many movies have there been? There's been multiple movies.
There's been all the Despicable Moan movies, Despicable Me movies,
and the minions a small part of it. Then the
minions spun off and the Minion's got bigger than the
Despicable Me. Yeah, but for a lot of people that
can com planning. Because Tyler can't speak and she's got
no right to be on the radio. He keeps saying minions.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
I did read that text and said, what is a minyan?
And then I realized is that yeah, okay, millions.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Let's how you say. In the South, they they're humiliating,
a little yellow things that run around and make childish jokes. Yeah,
to be fair, quite funny. They work, quite fun But
you don't need a thousand of.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Them, No, and particularly not when you're fifty two.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Yeah, Simon, Yeah, how are you good?

Speaker 12 (01:33:29):
Good? And Tyler?

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
I was waiting for that. That's right, and to a
lesser extent, Tyler, you're all equal there, good man, Simon,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Now what have you got? You've got very interesting collection.

Speaker 12 (01:33:46):
Jar changeaws. Not my basically collection I've got. I've got
a few museum pieces that actually still run quite nicely,
But the rest of them are runners that run them
window daily but weekly. Most of them are depending what
job I'm going to do, I just conduce which.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
One will coming out fifteen change.

Speaker 12 (01:34:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's living petrol and four electrics. So
they're all quarterless, the electric ones. But the rest of them, yeah,
they're on the gases.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Have you got you got a favorite? You've got an
old faithful that you just keep going back to.

Speaker 12 (01:34:23):
I No, not so much. It's, like I said, depends
on what I'm doing. There's one sort that comes with
me on every job because it's it's just bloody useful
And that's a an echo. It's Arboruk's top.

Speaker 14 (01:34:36):
Hand or one.

Speaker 12 (01:34:36):
So one of these single handed jobs or you're generally
using two handed, but you can use in one handed.
That that one's that one's my sort of party favorite.
But yeah, I've got a couple of others that I
love to bring out. Yeah, it depends on what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Are you displaying them, like so you love them and
your care for them, are they are they in a
displayable situation like someone can go into your share or
your garage and and and peruse them with you.

Speaker 12 (01:35:03):
Well, yeah, pretty much. On the racking of my workshop,
you wander and basically you see five of them sticking
out the shelf, but they're doubled upper on the shelf,
So there's five tails sitting out, but if you pull
one out, there's another one in there behind it. Yes,
they're all doubled up. It's take a fair space, but

(01:35:24):
it's all good fun and games.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Still got all your fingers the assignment.

Speaker 12 (01:35:28):
Yes, Yeah, we're always excited about that. You're keeping the fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
That's a big one.

Speaker 12 (01:35:34):
Yeah, And it's just the case of sometimes when people
go this this brand and this brand and this brand's better.
I'm like, yeah, I've got nearly one of each brand. Yeah,
I'm not a brand. This sort of person good.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
The old electrics get a bit of a hard time
from the purest simon, how do you feel about the
electric chainsawce?

Speaker 12 (01:35:56):
As far as electric corded one?

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
So I was thinking I were just running off a battery.
Do these things plug into the wall.

Speaker 12 (01:36:05):
I've got I've got both varieties as well, So a
corded one, a plug in mine. I use it when
I'm out in the in my wood spilling area because
I don't need cordless and I don't want gas. And
they are actually quite talking, they're quite quite powerful. But
cordless is definitely It's like with most tools, most trades,

(01:36:25):
cordless is the way to go. They're brilliant, they're really
quiet that they started he pressed the button with you're
away and racing. So I do love the cordless. But
when you need speed or just raw power, yeah, there's
nothing like to stroke.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Hey, so have you ever tried getting a boiler suit
and a hockey mask, taking the chain off, firing up
your chainsaw, and chasing kids around at Halloween?

Speaker 12 (01:36:51):
I don't know why I want to take the chain off.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
I saw that Halloween there was this guy running out
of his house with the chainsaw. It was in ponsible.
It was very very funny. No no, no, no, no, no,
no kids would I loved it?

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call
love to hear about your crazy collections that you've got
at home.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Virgin on obsession. His texas said is that this is
this guy in New Zealand's speed camera, vigilant fleximan. Maybe
he is.

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Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
Thank you as always, Ray Lane. We are chatting about obsessia.
Obsessor for rather collections that you have in your life,
whether that's yourself or a family member that might need
a bit of an intervention. We want to hear from
you at one hundred and eighty ten.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Eighty get a Detroit. You're a fantastic collector.

Speaker 17 (01:39:03):
Hi, Yes, I've got a collectible shop.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Oh you run a click.

Speaker 10 (01:39:11):
Yeah, it's online business.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
And what's that? What's it called?

Speaker 10 (01:39:19):
Dark Legacy Collectibles?

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Good name? All right, and we'll look.

Speaker 16 (01:39:22):
Find me on strade me Facebook.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
So what what's your go to in terms of of
what you collect yourself, Detroit? What's your what do you
tend to lean towards?

Speaker 10 (01:39:35):
Goose Bumps and Pokemon?

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Right, so so and creepy stuff? Creepy stuff? So you
know with your Dark Legacy collectibles? What what define something
that as a collectible? What what do you look at
and go this is a collectible and it is worth
putting in my shop. What are the range of things.

Speaker 18 (01:39:56):
Horror books.

Speaker 10 (01:39:59):
From the Goosebumps series?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Yep? Good series, there's.

Speaker 10 (01:40:04):
Mini series pretty much all of the series.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
And and you mentioned you mentioned Pokemon cards as well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
What about what about magic?

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
The gathering must be pretty pretty high up the list.

Speaker 16 (01:40:21):
That's that's there.

Speaker 10 (01:40:24):
It's not a very easy game to get your hands on.
Nothing is these days.

Speaker 23 (01:40:30):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
Oh, thank you so much for your call. Yeah, also
clicks large gaps between sentences. Our producer Andrew and the
and studio b over there he's collecting. Michael's on the phone, Mike,
He's done a good job, and I'm just looking down
the line here. The next three calls are all Mike,
So I think Andrew's got a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
We need an intervention on the collection of Michael's here, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 14 (01:40:55):
Yeah, which one?

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
We'll go with you first, Mike.

Speaker 14 (01:40:59):
You're talking to me?

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, We'll let the other two hold for
a bit. You're our first.

Speaker 14 (01:41:04):
Mike at three, All right, yep, no, good, good to hear.
But I'm Mike and Melody. My wife is Melody. So
where everybody calls us Eminem and Melody arrived home with
a golfing prize one day one of the little characters.
I've never seen one before. I said, gosh, that's cue.
Don't wonder how many more there are. We've got sixteen

(01:41:25):
hundred of them in the shed now the case outside.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Jeepers and you know, have you ever had to have
you ever thought about just sitting down and having a
bit of a family intervention?

Speaker 14 (01:41:37):
Well, she said, none are coming upstairs, and last time accounted,
she's flogged eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
That is very good.

Speaker 4 (01:41:46):
Yeah, I mean that is I mean when it takes
up the garrete space in sixteen hundred, how long did
it take you to Collick all those.

Speaker 14 (01:41:53):
It's taken just on seven years.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Yeah, that is an obsession. I mean so when so
sixteen hundreds not an obsession? When does it become an obsession? Mike?

Speaker 14 (01:42:07):
When I can't think of anything else to do?

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Mike, And moving on to Mike, you're collecting coins and banknotes?

Speaker 10 (01:42:16):
Yep, this is Michael here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
Oh Michael, not Mike, all right, right, big difference. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:42:23):
Now I've got quantity banknotes from eighty five different countries.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 10 (01:42:30):
The thing is that I collected them as I rode
my motorbike through or for ten years through those same
eighty five countries.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
That is cool. That is very cool.

Speaker 10 (01:42:42):
And I managed to get every coin from each country
and the first two or three notes because that started
to get a expence of each country.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
That's pretty cool. So you will only collect it if
you've if you've ridden through the country, correct, right, See,
that's good. That's good. That that that's a you know,
that limits how many you can go. You can't get
too far out of control, because it's much harder to
to get them, you know, to move it forward. For me,
I can just order another record or another cap online.
That comes keeps coming in. But your distinct rules mean

(01:43:15):
that your collection is more special and more and harder
to grow.

Speaker 8 (01:43:20):
And it took me ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
Cool and what was the most obscure currency that you collected?
Any country you went through that's not the same country anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:43:34):
Sudan is now north and South because of Czechoslovakia is
now Czech Republic and Slovakian Republic. Yugoslavia is now Macedonia
and Bosnia Herzegovner and a few others, the CCP, the
Russian is now. I've managed to get to Moldavia and

(01:43:59):
Ukraine before they broke away. So yeah, there's a few
countries that don't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'll go on your on your Michael. I
don't collect per se, but I hold onto my old
deodorant cans, okay, mate, I have thirty and have about
twenty different cans kinds of can.

Speaker 19 (01:44:16):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
That's just not putting the recycling out. That's just not
putting out the rubbish. That's hoarding trash. That is non collection.
It's like someone ringing up and saying or tix in
and saying I collicked toilet roll the twilet rolls when
the paper's finished. It's like, no, you just haven't put
out the rubbit. You're just a doody bugger and you
need to clean yourself up. I find spraying the scent

(01:44:38):
whenever I go through my memorability box brings back a
lot of nostalgic memories from various stages of life. The
sense of smell is very closely associated with memory. That
is true. And now he collects colone, so you know,
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
Okay, we'll give a glass on that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Then I respect the clicking of colognes. That's fine. I
just realized I've got another clique.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
I've been complaining about people with collections. I just realized
also clicked watches, don't it. How many watches are you got?
Not that many, maybe fifty, But I clicked watches from
behind the iron curtain, you know, oh Russian watches. Yeah,
not necessarily Russian, you we see. So yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway,
let's don't talk about me too much. Hey, lads, I've
been collecting tumors for the last few years and nothing's working,

(01:45:16):
so I'm happy to try shaming them. That's from Tom. Yes,
that Tom. That's great New Zealand to Tom so We
had a fantastic chat with him last week. A great
man and all the best to you, Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
Yeah, crowd favorite Tom, thank you very much for getting
back in touch. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Love to hear about
your collections that are urging on obsessions and if there's
someone in your household that you want to shame about
their connection.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
And what do we need to stop? Is it time
to start listening to the Buddha about collections because we
all know what the Buddha has to say, don't we
do you know what the Buddha has to say. I
don't know what the bo had to say. It comes
not through positions or ownership, but through a wise and
loving heart. You don't need all those caps and watches
and vinyl and records. You just need a wise and

(01:46:02):
loving heart. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
Yeah, Matties Taylor Adams, your calls on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Be welcome back into the show. Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
We're talking about collections that verge on obsession and kinder
hear yours or if you've got someone in your household
that you think needs a bit of intervention.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Werever that. Yeah, Look, and what we're doing here is
we celebrating collections. Everyone's ringing in celebrating collections. But I
want to push back against collecting. I want we're not octopie,
as I keep saying over and over again, We're not magpies.
What is this compulsion? What is this human compulsion to
collect things? What do we get out of it? So
if you know your positions on you, that's what happens first.

(01:46:45):
You own your positions and your positions on you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
I need someone to tell them to get it together
and sort out your obsession worth watches, vinyl at I'm
sure there's other.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Things as this textas says collecting watches is a complete
waste of time, and I agree, but I'm bomb okay,
our third in our collection of Michael's on the phone.
What's your collection?

Speaker 8 (01:47:09):
Guys?

Speaker 20 (01:47:09):
Yeah, Michael just from just before I get onto my daughter.
As for the other Michael has just gone through. It
reminds me I have a small collection of notes and
coins and stamp packs from around the world. My most
prize ones is what I've got left of five dollar notes,
all signed by Ed Hilly and my collection as well.

(01:47:33):
I had about twenty of them, but I gave quite
a few of them way to friends and acquaintances, and
I to me, that's the ones I've got left are mine.
I won't be never given those ones away. And I've
got one and a series of photos with Ed and
myself at Scott Base, him signing a postcard of him
and a tractor and with a five dollar boat sign

(01:47:57):
notes in the middle of the frame. And that's that's
my kind of thing. But I rang up about my daughter.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
Yeah, just quickly before you get into that, Michael, what
were you doing at Scott Base.

Speaker 20 (01:48:08):
I used to work for the antilet program for fourteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (01:48:11):
I spent about two hundred and thirty seven days down
there for eight years.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Wow. Fantastic.

Speaker 20 (01:48:16):
Yeah, about three times, three times when Ed was down there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Oh wow.

Speaker 20 (01:48:20):
He was a gentleman and he signed all his notes
for me on my three trips with him. He was
there for a specially different reason. I was here to work.

Speaker 12 (01:48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:48:29):
So I've got say about half dozen left. Two of
them are subsquential numbers and they're my prize ones. But
you know, I've given them a few away to some
good friends and one to a group and a guy
in America who's continuing at support of Hillary's school and
the Himalayas. He continued the sport because we used to
buy some equipment off him, and he came back and

(01:48:52):
said that it was quite He was supports ed Italy.
So I sent him a signed five dollar note as well.
So I hope he's got to hang up in his
office somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Yeah, great story.

Speaker 20 (01:49:02):
My kids have got one each. But what they've done
with them, I don't know. But they're all framed.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
Yeah, now you're sorry. You're going to mention your daughter
as well. She got a collection.

Speaker 20 (01:49:11):
Yeah, she's about the ten thirty eight and then her
arm outdoor study type workshop. Well she's got she's got
all this Harry Potter stuff. She's got the figurines, the
whole crew of figurines, she's got the box of videos,
all this other stuff, and she's they bought a couple
of things. I've trained me the whole castle, which is

(01:49:34):
all on lego, and she's a whiz at putting lego together,
and she's currently building the bank and she showed me
how it works. So I was just silent what to get.
And I'm actually not say no, you can't do it.
I'm actually supporting it. But I was trying to figure
what to buy for her birthday, and because my sister
lives in the US, I bought her some matchbox toys

(01:49:59):
which all centered around Harry Potter, which includes the train,
the coach with the horses, the car, the figurines. Yeah,
and I bought a more off eBay and my sister.
I finally got the other one yesterday, the last one,
which was a train, And they are going to be
my surprises for my daughter to add to her collection

(01:50:21):
because no matter what, she will never stop doing anything
with Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Yeah. Well that's kind of good. If you know someone
in your family that's into something, it makes it takes
a pressure off when it comes to buying presents. Of course,
you do turn up with the thing and they've got
twenty five versions of it. What do people think about
Tom Hiddleston playing Everest in the in the New The New,
not playing Everest, playing Sir ed Min Hillary in that
new movie ten and what is it called Tensing?

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
Yeah, it feels like he'd be a good Sir Red though,
You can kind of see it, can't you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
Yeah, I can see that. But as I've said before,
if they change the end and Tensen gets up there before,
sir Red, oh, they'll be held a page. I'm boycotting.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Yeah, absolutely, Roland's you want to have a chat about
your collection?

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Is it your collection?

Speaker 23 (01:51:06):
It is my collection. Yes, I've got I've got a
Lego collection, which is nothing that reads me big, but
you know Legos Lego. I've got a matchbox collection that
which ranged from the seventies through about eighty five. I
stopped buying it when the Jets topped the company over.
But my main thing I'm quite most proud of is
my Hornby double train set from the fifties. It's the

(01:51:26):
old fashioned three.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
Rail one, so I take it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
That's quite rare, is it, Roland? I'm you know knowledge
train seats is not high.

Speaker 23 (01:51:34):
That is quite a rare real because it's not rare
because I just spent some money and bought some second
end replacement parts that I needed. There's plenty of it
on trade me. But it is it is old. It
is old from the fifties, which makes it somewhat collectible.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
Yeah, and how much money j rekon. Your collection is worth.

Speaker 23 (01:51:52):
Probably probably a couple of couple of grand cup three grand,
depending on the on the on the buyer.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
Right, what lego pieces have you got? MAT's really into
his lego at the moment. What's the most of my
lego is just the loose blocks all right, Okay.

Speaker 23 (01:52:06):
I'm not into the seat stuff. I like, I like
to buy the loose blox and use my own imagination.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Oh yeah, you're like the that's like the moral of
the Lego movie.

Speaker 12 (01:52:15):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
It's like the architect rather than just.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Whereas I prefer to follow the instructions exactly on the
adult technic set and then put them up on a
shelf and if anyone even looks at them, I.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
Tas them as you should. Hey, this is interesting. Ask
Marcus Lush about his obsession collecting folding rulers that are
stuffed under his beard and boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Wow, that's problematic folding rulers. Yeah, I mean you get
into that. So this is the kind of thing I'm
talking about that needs to be And like I'm pointing
the finger at myself as well. What are we doing?
You know, back in the day, Tyler, when we were
nomadic people, the homo sapien sapiens.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
We.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Moved every day, so our positions we had to carry
on our back every day. Yeah, And I tell you what,
if you had to carry your positions on your back
every day, you wouldn't have boxes and boxes of folding
rulers stuffed under your bed, would you? You certainly wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
And I don't know why you need all those folding rulers.
At least your hat has some sort of practical burners.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
And I wouldn't be off trekking with my two hundred
and fifty sports hats balanced on my head, would.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
I give it a go?

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
I'm sure you'd give that a go. And we are
evolved to be nomadic, and that's why these positions they
start to weigh us down the more we have in
our house, and you know where you store them, and
you've got them piling up in the cupboards and under
your beds.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
Yeah, you know this is just self therapy for you
at this point, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
A huge Marcus flush fan? But I can't support us
folding rulers.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
I just don't know why you need that many five
folding rulers. You don't need one folding ruler.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Says, Hey, lads, I've got a wine collection probably worth
about twenty dollars, going to enjoy drinking at myself tonight.
You see. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with
that wine collection. You bring one in, one and one
out exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
If you've got more than five bottles of wine at home,
you're doing something wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
I mean five and five out. Yeah. So if you're
going to be locked at every glass, every bottle should
be drunk on the night it's bought. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
Oh, eight, one hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the
number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
It is nine to four. Beg very shortly here on NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Six to four.

Speaker 22 (01:54:24):
Don, you were offered a hell of a collection, Yes,
I certainly away, Don, Yeah, just try and take a
step to the left of the right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
Yeah. I really want to hear about this collection because
it's quite impressive. But you're breaking up badly, Don, my.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
Friend, I'll pull over and get off the hand. Three.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
Okay, I would appreciate that. That's very good. Here you go, Yeah,
much better.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Beautiful Mazey died last year in Geneva. I was hitting
over there for another reason later in the year, but
he blew me over the business class to say goodbye.
He died a week after I got home. He offered
me has He's spent his whole life working in research
and development at Rolex. So his personal Rolex collection was

(01:55:19):
over seven hundred pieces.

Speaker 14 (01:55:21):
Wow, and who put them to me?

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
He didn't want to leave them to roll X because
they have a huge museum anyway, and he said it
would just get lost in there. But I couldn't afford
to look after one of them, let alone pay the
insurance on all of them, or even I mean, I
didn't know how the hell I'd get them back into
the country.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
And yeah, you would. You would feel it was wrong
to sell them so well, absolutely, because I mean seven
hundred Rollicks watches, I mean that's I mean minimum, what
ten thousand per watch would be the absolute minimum, right
I would?

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
You know, I've got no idea because I'm not in
that class of any anything, but I imagine they'd be
twenty or twenty five thousand dollars on average, you know, man,
I went a lot of the day that I was born,
being born where I am. I don't need them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
I'm loving this. I'm loving this stitude.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
The kids are all set up. Money isn't the thing,
you know, so I love I love my tools. I've
got a good tool collection, but they've got a practical
thing I can use. I would rather have the memory
of knowing that Marcus was my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Oh mate, you're a modern day Buddher. That's a lovely
way to finish. I mean, my math is a bit
every year. But do you just say no to one
point four million dollars with the watches?

Speaker 4 (01:56:44):
Potentially seven hundred Rolis watches. Yeah, a lot of money,
but don thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Absolutely, Yeah, I agree with his sentiment. One dred percent.
Joy comes not through positions or ownership, but through a
wiys and loving heart. Yep, they're is asked for today.
We'll do it all again next week. Yeah. The Met
and Tyler podcast will be out in about an hour

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
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