Full Show Podcast: 10 April 2025

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Hello you guy Zillas, and welcome to Matin Tyler Afternoons
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for the Thursday, the tenth of April. Fantastic show today,
some uplifting stories from a greyhound. We actually get a
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What was the number one?

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Wait out, wait and find out. Yeah. And we had
a great conversation about alcohol on the back of ben
Elton and look, and then breaking news came in through
the show once again. We threw boottops and look fuller
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Speaker 3 (01:55):
Good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show on this Thursday.
I hope you're doing well. Weave you're listening in the country.
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Speaker 3 (02:09):
Thursday?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's Thursday.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I know, Thursday already, thirsty Thursday.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
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three o'clock. We didn't get to this yesterday, so we
really want to dive into it today. Botox and lip
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
I think why Yeah, a poor woman who's gone to
get her lips filled late at night has had a
terrible reaction, and there's been accusations that the correct medical
procedures weren't taken. But why would you rusk having your
lips field? Does it look good? Do you want it?
We wanted to talk about it yesterday. We don't and
we want to find out about lipfuler.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, I mean that is It's a pretty simple question,
but a big one. Why what do you get out
of it? That's after three, after two o'clock. Adopt the
greyhound events has been heund today. Winston Peters will be there,
Chris Bishop will be there, star studded event. But the
big question we want to put you is would you
adopt a greyhound? And take it a bit wider than that?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, so a lot of greyhounds, as you know, are
becoming unemployed. They need to find homes. Are they good dog?
Would you take on a greyhound? And the wider question
of whether you should adopt dogs as opposed to buying
from a breeder. Get you get a custom or you
just get a whatever, you get a pick and max.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, adopt or shop? Ye, that is after two o'clock
pick and mix.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
But right now, let's have a chat about drinking and
potentially the demonization of those who like a drink. It's
on the back of Ben Elton. He is here in
the country onto a writer comedian rack on tour. Very
funny and very famous individual. But he's been telling interviewers
while he's been in the country, and I don't think
this is new for Ben Elton. I think he's told
this interviewers for some time that he really loves a drink.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, he said it for a very long time and
it was never controversial, but nowadays it's quite full on
to hear someone to talk so positively about alcohol. I'm
a huge fan of the man Young Ones is one
of my favorite TV shows of all time. A love Blackadder.
I really enjoyed his novel Stark Popcorn Identity Crisis in
twenty nineteen, was his last book. Was a fantastic read.

(04:14):
But this is what he says about alcohol. I drink
far more than the government says its healthy. Well if
it if you sniff a sheery bottle, you're over the limit.
I love to drink. I'm never going to give it up.
But I'm not an alcoholic. I'm a happy, functional family
man and I've never been in a fight in my

(04:34):
life it is. You don't hear people giving that wholehearted
endorsement of alcohol. But I think most of us know
people that drink but feel bad about drinking and are
constantly trying to stop drinking and talking about their drinking
and trying to do drive julye and trying to do
sober Sunday and all the different things. And isn't there

(04:55):
a January one? Now?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think so? Yeah, And this over Blindeyeh, it's too much.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Here's a February one. There's a lot of people trying
to give up alcohol, but there's also those people that
just love drinking. They're heating us, the Epicureans. They seem
to be drinking quite a lot, but they're also good
family people. They turn up to work, they do a
good job. They just don't feel bad about drinking. Yeah,
I wonder if drinking and feeling stressed about it is

(05:23):
worse than drinking and not feeling stressed about it.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think you're onto something because we are. We're bombarded
all the time. Now that if you want to be healthy,
and you want to be well, and you want to
get the most out of life, then it's probably wise
for you to give up booze. If not entirely, then
then pretty much entirely, which just seems to be a
little bit of ski tactics, right that the only way
that you can get the most out of your life
is to completely give up booze. Where the equation or

(05:47):
the elements of drinking that you do. For a lot
of us, we get some enjoyment out of it, we can.
You know, there are some good elements of sitting down
and having a drink with friends, social occasions, whatever it
may be, that never gets taken into account. Now all
of a sudden it is a bad thing to drink
alcohol rather than the opposite that we used to kind
of lean into.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wow, there's a lot of tech story coming through on
both sides of it. But give us a ring. Eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you agree with ben Elton?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And drink away, drink and be Mary, drink up.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It is eleven past one. Let's get into it. Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
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Speaker 3 (06:37):
News Talks thereb it is fourteen past one, and we're
talking about the perceived demonization of those of us who
enjoy a drink on the back of ben Elton, who's
been pretty clear that he loves to drink.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, he's in the country at the moment. Is when
there's a start cour start will find that out.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Actually, yeah, yep, he is. He's here for a series
of speaking events which will be incredibly popular as a
ways are.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
When I went to see him last time, he was
very funny. Yeah, absolute energizer bunny. I think he's sixty
five years old, but he's up and down the stage
age very very well. He doesn't like people say this menic,
but he comes across as menic but funny. Being a
fan of his my whole life. This is what ben
Elson had to say.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
I exercise every day, but I love to drink. I
love to I mean, I will never give up booze.
I adore it. And I hate the fact that governments
seems to see it as their duty to endlessly tick
us off for doing the things we like. I mean, yeah,
some health campaigns are fine. The cigarettes, you know, Yeah,
that was kind of fine. But now let's do it
on booze, let's do it on food. I think you
know this idea that longevity is the only worthwhile medical ambition,

(07:42):
that it basically medicine has won. If we can all
just live longer and longer and longer. I think that's
madness because they don't consider the quality of life. And
you know I used to. I was doing a routine
on my last tour. You know, the government was terribly
pleased and anxious for us all to know that. Apparently
it's a fact, and it is a fact that if
you drink, even in moderation, it will not two years
off your life. And the British kind of government was

(08:03):
kind not everyone should know this because imagine it, these
two years of your life just for a few glass
of wine. Who would do that?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
They don't tell you which two years.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
I mean, I don't want to live those last two years.
I watch my parents. It's not nice. I'd rather have
a few more drinks than avoid the last few years.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
There, he goes, do you agree with them?

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to core
Brett's how are you?

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Yeah? I'm good, I thank you. There's a game.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Very good. Do you enjoy your drinking. Are you proud drinker?

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Oh? God, yeah, yep, yep yeah. I moved to Australia
when I was seventeen and I was running a bottle
shop and I got hooked on it then.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So would you say you're hopked on alcohol?

Speaker 7 (08:46):
Well, I like it. I mean I don't want to
stop drinking. I'm sixty two now, yeah, and I'm a
truck driver. I get up at one o'clock every morning.
I have a few beers in the afternoon, but I
know my limit.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah. Do you do other things, Brett? You know, because
it's important. Ben Elton says he does quite a bit
of exercise, even at the age of sixty five, to
make sure that he can still enjoy you drink and
that offsets whatever, you know, bad things a drink could do.
Do you do that stuff?

Speaker 7 (09:14):
Not really? But in my job it's very physical because
I'm like liver foods and everything and some of those
crates and that are hippy, and boy, I need a
beer after I finish.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
And when you say a beer, how many beers would
you have when you say you have a beer?

Speaker 7 (09:31):
I have an average of probably five seven to fifty
million bottles a day.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Five seven fifties is the big botes every day? Right?
And what's your health like? Do you say you're sixty two?

Speaker 7 (09:44):
Yeah, my house's fine. I've just been on a I
need a new knee. That's about it. But that's got
nothing to do with alcohol, do you I have regular
medicals and being a tructor over and believe it or not,
I'm Keith Richards. My liver is perfect.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
As Keith Richards lover and perfect. I'm not sure. But
do you lock better than Keith Richards? It's the question.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, A lot of people come how I look
like I'm fifty not sixty two?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And so how long do you think you've been drinking this?
What did you say? Five seven fifty mils of beer
a night? How long do you think you've been doing that?
For Brett, I've been.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Oh mate, I've been doing it for years and years
and years. I mean I used to run bars and
clubs and everything in Australia. Then I come over here
and when you're in that industry, it's you sort of
get hooked on it. But yeah, I'm okay, I'm class
as an alcoholic, but I as the other guy, I
don't I've never really been in a fight over it,
hanging in the bars, and I used to run. Yeah, no,

(10:44):
I mean I have a few beers. I feel a
little bit sluggish when I wake up. But I've been
pulled over by the cops early in the morning. I've
always been under the limit, So that's the main thing.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Do you ever feel bad about how much you drink
and think about cutting down?

Speaker 6 (11:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Have you have you got have you got kids?

Speaker 7 (11:03):
Bread?

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Yeah, they're all growing up?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, and so you.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
Ungus is nearly thirty. My oldness is in the.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Forties, right right, and so would you say? You know,
obviously you've you've turned up to work, as you say,
at one o'clock in the morning. You work hard? Were you?
Were you a good good dad?

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (11:22):
Oh god?

Speaker 10 (11:23):
Yah?

Speaker 7 (11:24):
Yeah, I mean I wasn't a good husband, but I
was a good dad.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Does he mean I've been I've been married twice.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Nothing wrong with that, Brent. Does anyone ever give you.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
What it was? Was booze? The problem in the in
the relationship spread?

Speaker 7 (11:38):
No, No, the woman, I believe it not the woman.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Were it wasn't you? It wasn't you, you know, absolutely
no fault of your own. These breakups.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Apparently apparently in the lawyers things, I was, but it
wasn't true. Alcohol.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, does anyone ever give you not stick? But are
they they come to you and say we're a bit
concerned that you're drinking five bottles of seven hundred and
fifty mili a day.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
No never, no, Oh, well, thank you so much for
you call Brett. I appreciate it, Thanks for sharing your story.
You're a good man that you gain you've got Brett.
He agrees with ben Elton. Yeah, nothing wrong with it,
according to Brett. And because say that's a good that's
a good intake. That is a very muche five big bots.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
But there's Britt said, you know, he's got a fairly
physical job that he's cuting around food and other stuff
that he's got to transport out of the truck and
he's moving on a regular basis. But yeah, and maybe
that's you know, it absolutely says more about how I
think of of alcohol and maybe the messages that I've
been bombarded with that I look at that and think, jeepers,
that's a lot of booze.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
But three and a quarter liters of beer night, that's
quite a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's quite a lot, but he sounded onto it, didn't
he And he's still going hard.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Absolutely no judgment for me at all.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Great Winston Churchill had a prestigious capacity to consume
alcohol and lived to ninety one. He also defeated fascism.
If he did, he was on the He was on
the bubbles, wasn't he? Winston Churchill like bubbles in the morning?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah? Well, funnily enough, I watched Dark as Hour last
night because it popped up on Netflix. And I don't
know whether it was true, but may I imagine it
was that he had whiskey during his breakfast?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Not just a wee tiple of whiskey and.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Soda really with his breakfast?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah, all right, it's some eggs and whiskey.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I've actually I'll find it. The queen had a really
a regimented drinking regime that seemed to go most of
the day. Yeah, I'll look that up and share that.

Speaker 11 (13:39):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Have we demonized drinking a little bit too much?
Has the pendulum swung in the other direction? With all
this fascination about zero alcohol bears and no drinking.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
If you go to work and you work hard, and
you're a good parent, a good friend and a good partner,
and you do your bit for your community, but you
drink a reasonable amount, is that any reason to be judged?
That's really the question I'm asking, because Ben Elton says
NAH twenty one past one.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

Speaker 12 (14:12):
Breakfast Finance Minister Nikola Willison, I was watching Trump's speak
to some party, faithfully said everyone's ringing up kissing his ass.
Are we one of the people kissing?

Speaker 7 (14:20):
Is?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Ask?

Speaker 13 (14:21):
Well, look, our diplomats in Washington has said, been speaking
with the US counterparts.

Speaker 12 (14:26):
When you talk or they talk to the administration, do
they come back to you with any level of clarity
that makes sense?

Speaker 13 (14:33):
Well, uncertainty is because this is a significant global economic event,
and as the Finance minister, I need to keep on
top of what's happening. Implications for New Zealand and so
far very much our view as we should stay the course.

Speaker 12 (14:47):
Back tomorrow at six am, the mic Hosking Breakfast with
Mayley's Real Estate News Talk zed b.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Good afternoon, it is twenty four past one.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
We're talking about alcohol consumption. Ben Alton, the famed British
comedian who now lives in Australia. A fantastic writer. I've
been a fan of his my whole life. He's he's
come out and wholeheartedly endorsed drinking alcohol and says he's
still a good person. And you know he's a good partner,
good family person, and he drinks quite a lot. I said,

(15:18):
was talking before about the Queen's drinking routine. Yes, and
this has been texted through so I didn't even have
to look it out. I say this all the time,
nine two nine two. So it's better than Google, It's
better than AI. Whatever question I put out, the answer
comes back through.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
It thinks know your stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Thank you so much. According to former Royal staff and
meter reports, her reported daily routine before she reportedly cut
back later in life, included before lunch, a gin in dubinet.
That's a French apparative class, he said, with lemon and ice.
With lunch, a glass of wine, usually dry. After lunch,
a dry martini, which was reportedly her favorite class. In

(15:53):
the evening, a glass of champagne before Beard.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That four standard drinks today.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I mean, that's the I was going to say, what
a classy way to drink, but it was the Queen.
So if anyone's going to be classy in their drinking,
a gin and dubinet, yeah, you'd have to get it
exact right. The pressure to make a gin and dubernet
for the Queen would be intense.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
And a dry martini straight after lunch, yeah, oh well
there that's the Queen. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
and it's fair to say. I mean, ben Elton did
make the point because it was a question about wellness,
and he says that he exercises quite a lot to
make up for the drinking that he enjoys doing. But
his whole point was talking about the wellness argument that yes,
for some people when they drink zero alcohol, that may

(16:36):
be better for their physical body, But in terms of
overall happiness and enjoyment about life, what is wrong with
having the occasional drink and enjoying that.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well occasional drink. Ben Helden's not talking about an occasional drink.
We're talking about someone that drinks a lot. Mike says,
I was like that chat earlier about the many beers
every day came up four years ago. Best thing I
gave up four years ago, the best thing I ever did.
And I was the last guy you would think would
stop drinking. Now I preach it. It's a shocker. Yeah.
I mean there's so many people. You know, you may

(17:07):
you may think that your life's fantastic, you know, with
how you're living it, but unless you try something else,
you might be wrong.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I mean, people that love alcohol and think their lives
are great, you'd still recommend that they tried taking three
months off just to find out if life could be
even better.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, just give it a punt. Oh eight hundred and
eighty teen eighty is the number to call. John. How
are you this afternoon?

Speaker 9 (17:30):
Yeah, pretty well, thinked, Thank you very much. Yeah, I
just wanted to have a chat, you know, preface like, Yes,
I'm a big fan of fan of Ben Elton, you know,
enjoy his work. But also you know, I think we
need to acknowledge that alcohol is the drug that most
does the most image in New Zealand. It's the biggest
killer in relation to drugs in New Zealand, and I

(17:54):
think probably Ben a previous caller Brett functional alcoholics. I
think Brett even said, you know, he was considered himself
an alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, to be fair Ben Elton, I don't think Ben
Elton considers himself and alcoholic, but yeah, Brett did say that,
didn't need.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
John, Yeah, it was an interesting question to who are
opposed to to Ben? And that's that awareness. But I
think there's a real danger in you know, Ben and
yourself kind of promoting alcohol as as safe.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Who's been doing that? We haven't been. We've been just
having the discussion John, and we can. We must, we
must discuss everything.

Speaker 9 (18:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the viy on getting
across from you is that yeah, yeah, alcohol's fine, but
it's it's really not.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
No, I don't think you would have been getting that.
We're just reading out what people's feedback is we and
we allow anyone to ring up so interested in hearing
your opinion, John.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, hunting three and a half
liters of beer each night and then going out and
driving a truck at one in the morning. Yeah, I
think there's some some dangers in that.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Three point wasn't it? He was that was actually three
point seven five liters of a night.

Speaker 9 (19:11):
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a lot.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
I think there's a lot. There's a lot of people.

Speaker 9 (19:16):
And Ben Elson included and go, yeah, it does me
no harm, and it's it's you know, it's not an
issue for me. But and you know, you could say
saying about about smoking. My dad's ninety one and he
used to be a heavy smoker and he's saw alive
and kicking, and he'd go, yeah, he hasn't done me
too much harm. You know, fast race on the lung

(19:39):
for about ten years, but hasn't killed me yet. So
there's lots of people who take various sorts of drugs
and there, and they're fine, but you've got to look
at the population statistics and and yeah, alcohol is a
big dealer.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, And to go back to britt, he never drank
at night, so because he started work at one, he
only ever drank in the afternoon and then had had
full sleep. And there's no suggestion all that. Yeah, it's
no suggestion that he would he is driving this track
at all under the influence of alcohol.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Just quickly, John. So the other point that there've been
Elton made, and it is about overall wellness and physical wellness.
I think we can accept that if you have the
amount of alcohol that been claims he has, and certainly
Brent has, then that's probably not good for your body.
But the other side of the equation he was talking
about was overall mental wellness, the socialization, those aspects that
can be good for people's mental wellbeing. Surely that plays

(20:36):
into it a little bit. When we're talking about the
demonization of drinking alcohol. Perhaps it has swung too far
in the other way when there is some benefit that
can come out of it if you're careful.

Speaker 9 (20:49):
Well, I haven't drunk alcohol for over forty years, so
I get on fine on a social aspect, until a
couple of hours into the light and everyone had a
few too many and they're just not making sense. I
think if you're relying on alcohol as approach long term,
you've got some issues. I think you've got some short
term issues and using it as a bit of a

(21:11):
bit of release, bit of mental pain relaxation. Yeah, there's
an argument for that. I think if you're using it
all the time, you've got a question and we'll hang on.
Maybe we need to be addressing the roo cause rather
than just using alcohol.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
As a mask.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well, thank you so much for your call. John. This
Texas is just amount of time before the wells is
called in conversation about glorifying alcohol, drinking alcohol is harmful,
any of it. This is not okay. I am so
disappointed a New z b shame on you, So, I
mean there's no conversations we shouldn't have exactly, I mean

(21:48):
the idea that shame on you for playing the audio
of someone that's visited this country saying that they drink
quite a bit of alcohol and is still a good
family member and works very hard. I mean been Elson
has created so much content over his life. Yeah, I
mean he's written is it fifteen novels?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, and it's a legal product. I don't know what
the survey numbers are. I'll try and find them, but
I could almost guarantee that the percentage of people that
enjoy an occasional drink in New Zealand would be very
high in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Hi, guys. The demonization of alcohol is stepped up significantly recently.
The latest wave in a woke tsunami driven by the
Green Party. I assume it's part of their plan to
broaden recreational drug use across society. There goes that's Dave's opinion.
But yeah, but when it comes to all these people
texting you shouldn't talk about it, well, I always find
that a really odd angle to take, that you shouldn't

(22:39):
talk about something. Why not you think you think that
everyone's so infantile in the country that if they hear
someone talking about alcohol, they'll suddenly jump up from their desk,
go to the bottlestore and buy a one one two
five of gin and come and then just give up
on life. Yeah, I think talking about things is as good,

(23:00):
especially on talkback right.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
And lucky for us we got full boards. There's a
lot of people who want to have a chat about this.
Funnily enough one hundred and eighty two. If you can't
get through, keep trying headlines with railing covenup.

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Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about the
consumption of alcohol on the back of Elton Ben Elton's comments.
He's in the country right now, he's about to start
his tour and of course well known comedian, racon tour writer.
But he said, and I quote and this is what
he said to the Herald. He said, I drink far
more than the government says is healthy. If you sniff

(24:53):
a sherry bottle, you're over the level according to the government.
I love a drink and I'm never going to give
it up.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
The sexer says, I think ben Elton did acknowledge some
of the harm alcohol does to you, eg shortening your life.
He did it with humor. Basically, when he drinks, he
makes an informed decision, which is what every patient does
when making choices with their doctor. I don't drink, but
cheers been you get my vote. Yeah. What he's saying
is that will shorten his life. But he didn't like
the light. His point was actually logically a logic that

(25:24):
wasn't didn't make sense because he said, well, yeah, you don't.
Actually that's he goes because he didn't think that the
end of his parents' life was a great bit, so
he didn't want to experience that last two years. Yes,
but I think the thing is if you're going to
die earlier from your alcohol consumption, you're going to have
a long period of it not being enjoyable. If you

(25:44):
see what I mean, You're not like a cat that
just goes and goes and goes and then drops deared.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no guarantee that you're going to
have so.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's a slow splutter out and you can have a
period of terrible health. There is a fine line between
free choice and judgment. What about people who are awoful
with money budgeting or making terrible choices with partners which
harm burden them and their families? Easy to start making lists.
Me personally, I'm anti Marriaea drugs, but moderate drinking is
okay according to this text. This one says that isn't

(26:15):
it a known fact that there's no safe level of alcohol?
Cheers Eli, Yeah, I think that's where they're going now.
You know, they were saying for the longest time that
you know, a glass of red wine was good for you.
But I think they've walked back that. And you know
a lot of health people listen to an entire podcast
by Andrew Huberman that said, no, that what alcohol does

(26:36):
to you is generally bad, even just in the damage
it does to your sleep patterns. Yes, but just because
something's not good for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
And we don't want to live lives that are completely
and utterly safe. That would be a terribly boring life,
wouldn't it. There are calculated risks that you make in
your life, and if you're Ben Elton, he believes that

(26:56):
drinking makes his life better. So he's going to continue
drinking quite a lot, even though he understands that there
are risks that comes with it exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Janey, welcome the show, Hi, And what's your view on
on what being out and had to say about drinking?

Speaker 14 (27:15):
Well, I think in moderation it is okay. You know,
if you're at the end of the day and that
you've been at work and you just want a cold one,
that's fine, you know, as long as it's limited. But
I think that I'm going to bring like a view
from the other side. I don't drink myself, but I
did watch my brother drink, even though my whole family didn't.

(27:39):
He went down that path and it was scary. It
was very scary.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
So he was a he was an alcoholic.

Speaker 14 (27:49):
Oh yeah, yep, definitely. Very rarely did you see him
without a can of something, or it'd be boxes of
code's or whatever. And he was also on some pretty
bad drugs like higher than marijuana, shall we say, And
at times it was scarier with him drinking than it

(28:10):
was with him.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
On that And how is he now.

Speaker 14 (28:15):
He can't drink anymore because it affected his liver so much,
then that's the only reason that he can't. And I
think it's been a few years now, like a good
four years class since he's had a drink, which is good,
but yeah, it ruined his liver. So every time he drunk,
he'd curl over in pain. And yeah, it did not

(28:36):
do good things. So that personally has put me off.
I mean, I've never had the will to drink anyway,
but I can see both sides. Like my partner will
have like a bear once a week or something. That's cool,
you know, but if you're excessive, it's scary and people
around you.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Alcoholism as a terrible disease when you see it. It
can destroy families quite clearly. And and you know, I've
been involved in second sences were tried to help people
that alcoholics, and it's hard. It's so it's so hard
that the lies and the and the damage that you

(29:17):
see them doing doing to themselves. But I guess Ben
Elton is saying and kind of what you're saying, Jenny
as well, as there's that, and then there's there's there's
different levels of it, isn't there. I mean everyone that
drinks shouldn't be, you know, categorized in the same way
as as someone that had a terrible problem like your brother.
But I'm glad he's doing okay now is he okay?

Speaker 14 (29:39):
Yeah? Well and the alcohol isn't Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Okay, we don't need to full audit of your brother.

Speaker 14 (29:46):
But no, no, but yeah, no, it was pretty scary.
But yeah, like you know, if you're drinking it, you know,
and moderation has been not a problem. I think it's
not the alcohol it's a problem, it's how you use it.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well, hey, thank you so much for you call, Jane.
I really appreciate you sharing that with us.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Thank you very much, Jenny. Yeah, and that is obviously
for Jane's perspective, seeing her brother go through that would
obviously alter your view on alcohol. This Texas says, guys,
what is the big enjoyment with alcohol? Can anyone please explain?
Is it the taste? I suppose it's a personal preference,
you know, depending on who you ask when I have

(30:27):
a drink. I think it is the socialization side of things.
I don't have any alcohol during the week zero from
Monday to Friday, and I'm not making a considered effort
to do that. I just don't enjoy drinking during the week.
But on the weekend, for me, the enjoyment I get
out of it is sitting in the sun with friends
and having a good time.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
You can't sit in the sun with friends and not
have a good time with alcohol.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
You can, absolutely you can do, but I think it
elevates it.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's an interesting thing, the sitting in the sun, because
that seems to be there's a lot with alcohol. There's
a lot of things that are related to So I
just need to get home from work and I'll have
a drink to relax, you know, sitting in the sun.
It's a beautiful day. I need to drink. Friends, you
need to drink, go into a show, I need to drink.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Matches up with a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call keen to hear your thoughts. It is seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Bag very surely, Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as
your afternoon rolls on. Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons
News talks edb.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
News talk ed b oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call, and we are talking about
consumption of alcohol on the back of Ben Elton. He's
in the country for a tour as we speak, and
he mentioned to the Herald, I quote, I drink far
more than the government says is healthy. But I love
a drink and I'm never going to give it up.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
The whole point of alcohol is its effect. If you're
not drinking enough to get that effect, you're wasting your money.
Drink water, it's cheaper. That's from Bob. But you can
just have a glass of wine and it perfectly can
match the I fill it you're eating or something. Nice.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Nice glass of red can elevate me absolutely.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
The thing about a nice glass of red is really good.
To follow that up with another glass, and then another
glass and then Nixon, you know you're finishing the bottle,
and then do you know what you really feel like
doing after a bottle of wine?

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Longer?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Up with another one, another bottle of red. Josh, how
are you?

Speaker 11 (32:23):
Yeah? Hey, boys say coming to you live from Birkenhead, Auckland.

Speaker 15 (32:27):
I'm about to have my second beer of the day.

Speaker 16 (32:31):
So here we go.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Grats.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Oh look at that? Can you hear this?

Speaker 17 (32:39):
May not?

Speaker 7 (32:40):
You can hear?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
That? Was that real? It sounded like a sound effect.
That was beautifully, beautifully poured.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
That's a Carlsburg Elephant beer.

Speaker 15 (32:51):
That one just like nice beer.

Speaker 16 (32:54):
Hey, hey, look I felt bad for.

Speaker 8 (32:59):
Uh mister.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Ben Elton.

Speaker 11 (33:07):
Hey look here, he's right to say what he said, Like, hey, look,
there is a therapeutic value to liquor. You know, you've
got to think about what it is. What is it?
It's well, it's a well, it's actually a depressant, and
it's actually a sensitive So.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
For people like me.

Speaker 11 (33:28):
Whose brains are running at two miles per hour, I'll
tell you what. Having three beers and watching the Mask
all this afternoon probably the highlight of my last three days.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
So you drink alcohol to slow your brain down because
you know one of the effects of it, as you
know that it's a it's a what do you call it?
The opposite of a stimulant? What's that? Some RESI.

Speaker 11 (33:55):
I think that actually I didn't know that. I didn't
know that, but I.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
Think that's what's actually happening.

Speaker 18 (34:02):
Yes, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, you don't find that that it increases your All I.

Speaker 11 (34:09):
Was going to say was Mike King got crucified for saying, hey,
some people are still around because obviously, you know they
like a little bit of liquor. And I think that's
true because you know some people, well, we obviously gravitate
to certain things to get the effect, the desired effect.

(34:30):
And that's that's fair enough. That's there is a therapeutic
use for liquor to an extent. But can I explain
it this way? Because I was thinking about this for
a little while, and I was thinking personality wise, what
happens to individuals when they drink alcohol and what kind

(34:51):
of level of alcohol Like obviously I'm having three beers
this afternoon, I swear. I mean, I know there's seven
point two percent and there's two point eight standard drinks
per can. However that that's that's kind of like a

(35:14):
that's to the day kind of thing, like if I
can tell you that obviously, obviously there are individuals that
you know, I mean, even myself I was laughing.

Speaker 18 (35:29):
Before when you guys are talking to another caller thinking that, yeah,
you start off like mister bean and then you move
into Robert de Niro.

Speaker 11 (35:42):
But you've got to back off before you hit the
sort of Joe PESHI.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think that's good advice.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeap, Yeah, smart.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Good advice, Josh.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
At Carlsberg Elephants, it's a seven point five.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I didn't realize though, were that powerful.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Now elephants powerful beers that Josh is going to enjoy
this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Enjoy the basketball, Josh.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
A couple of texts.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Just been on a cruise and everyone was drinking fun laughter, No,
Hussle's not a problem at all. Not drinking alcohol doesn't
make your life longer. It just seems longer.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Guys, I drink half to a full bottle of bourbon
every day after work, work eighty hours a week, farming
in the like, family and such, building my own house,
never miss abeat. Guys, work hard, play hard. That is
a lot of bourbon.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
There you go. I used to say my drinking team
had a rugby problem.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Okay, very good.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
You are both drugged out booze thinned, blood thinned booze hounds,
All right, are we Jim?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Ok, thank you Ji, thanks for that. Oh eight hundred,
it's the number to call. We'll get a few more calls.
In very shortly. It is nine to two.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Do you call us worthy? Talkback when you have a
bunch of drinker drinkers calling in, Get it together, guys,
I feel talking about things that happen in society worthy.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, that's what we do here. It's back nine to two.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams
afternoons News talks me.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Afternoon. It is six to two. We're talking about the
consumption of alcohol. After comments from ben Elton saying he
loves a drink and he's not a shaped shame to
admit that.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Which just seemed quite sort of stuck stuck out. It's
a thing for someone to say in twenty twenty five
Fellers ben Elton is English and their drinking culture is
far more social and mature than ours. The neighborhood pub
is an important social hub for all ages there. Peter, Yeah,
I noticed that when I lived in England that i'd
in London stop off at the Boogoloo previously there's Shepherds

(37:49):
in Highgate nights and have a drink home on my
way home. Every night after work.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yep, Hayden, we've got about two minutes before the news.
My friend, what's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 19 (37:59):
Hello, it's me Hei tay g go mate. Yeah, and
I haven't heard of this nor the boy Ben Elton before.
But no, I think it's good that he's putting this
point across. And there's nothing wrong with a few drinks.
I drink daily and I'm gasping for it by the
time I get home.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yep, how much would you have on a daily basis
A couple of beers?

Speaker 19 (38:19):
Easier doesn't Easier doesn't right? I work in the trades.
We're in the Central North Island and most of our
crew are same. They love a good drop as well,
but we're always up and ready to go.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
For work in the morning.

Speaker 19 (38:34):
But you know, I like to have a few in
the evenings every evening. I mean it just that helps
me put up with her a wee bit as well
once because she's a bloody shocking drinker, so she'll knock
over a couple of bottles of wine. But I normally
have it, maybe a couple of wines or two after
I'm full of beer. But I don't bloody hurt any

(38:54):
won and I always make sure I'm ready to go
to work again.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Have you ever taken a break from alcohol?

Speaker 19 (39:00):
Funny you should mention that, because one was going to
put me in a home quite a few years back now,
and I had a girlfriend that I extremely love, and
it was extreme love, and she was getting sick of
the boozing. So I knocked it on the head and
I went cold turkey sober for four years. Then I
tried to give it up again and I couldn't, so
they tried to give me this medicine called anti abuse,

(39:20):
and that put a stop to it quick smart. So yeah,
I knocked it on the head again for a while.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
But how did you feel in that four years when
you went drinking.

Speaker 19 (39:30):
I didn't really feel any different, to tell you the truth.
I mean, I've got a lot more done. I probably
lost a bit of weight, but I honestly didn't really
feel that much different. I dreamt about drinking. I would
dream that I'd been drinking the day before, and I
would wake up feeling what do you call it when
you think you've taken something that you haven't a placebo effect.

(39:53):
So I'd wake up and I think I was hangover,
and I'd think to myself, Oh shit, I wish I
didn't drink yesterday. And then then I realized, oh, hang on,
I didn't drink, but I would dream of drinking.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh well, thank you for your call, Hayden. Yeah, I
mean I would say that if you're dreaming of alcohol, yeah,
it might be, it might be deeper.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, it might be a step too far for most
of us. Thank you very much to everyone who called
and text. After the news, we want to talk greyhounds.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams
Afternoons news Talks.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
It be.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
News Talks, it be welcome back into the program. Great
to have your company. As always, seven past two, let's
have a chat about beautiful greyhound dogs. So just finished.
Actually it was an adopt a greyhound event. It was
attended by the right Honorable Winston Peters and Chris Bishop

(40:51):
as well as a bunch of media. He has a
little bit about what Winston had to say.

Speaker 20 (40:55):
It Well, I'm here to advocate the New Zealand media
do something responsible for want to change and take a
dog each and.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Look after it.

Speaker 20 (41:01):
Spend more time with that dog and they might understand
more about himity it may be a ration dog, but
it's incredibly different when it's at home idle. You won't
have to do all that much work do you look
after it? And they're very, very affectionate dog.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
So obviously Winston Peter's a massive fan of the greyhound.
But that's what we want to have a chat about.
So we know that there are thousands of greyhounds in
New Zealand at the moment that do need a loving
home as the industry is wound up over the next
twelve months. So we want to hear from you if
you've adopted a greyhound O eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty and take it a bit wider than that

(41:34):
in terms of the discussion around adopt or shop, as
they say, if you've rescued a dog before, love to
hear from you, or if you think it's better to
go the breeder option ten to hear from you as well.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, because if you it's probably morally the better thing
to do to you know, adopt a dog, but you
never know what you're going to get. I know a
particular friend of mine whose life is being ruined by
has dog. He's got no idea what it has adopted
it absolutely terrorizing their lives. I just look at it
so so hard to deal with. Whereas my beautiful little

(42:10):
doggie that I got knew exactly what I was getting, packed,
picked the traits that I wanted in the dog. Yeah, no,
y happiness, bit of intelligence, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Little Yeah, so silent, smart, small, easy to handle.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
So it is not a working dog. My dog although
there's no rats in our house and there's no cats
in our yard, but that's you know, that doesn't have
a wide problem. Greyhounds as Pets dot org dot n
z as the site to go to if you want
to adopted greyhound. As says here, when you adopt a greyhound,

(42:46):
you received much more than a dog. Greyhounds as Pets
is registered charity rehoming greyhounds that are no longer suitable
for racing, with over three thousand completed adoptions being a
testament to the success of our processes. Affectionate, gentle, and intelligence.
Greyhounds make great pets for most households, including those who
live in smaller homes. Right, I've said it before. I

(43:07):
feel I feel inferior when I see someone that takes
a greyhound to the beach at pace Yeah, they're beautiful creatures.
They are so well. Look, I know we've manipulated them humans,
but if you look them side by side and you
didn't know they're being manipulated, you would say that they
are more evolved than my little short legged little wounder.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
It is ahic of a thing to see a greyhound
go full noise and the joy in their little faces.
If you see them on the beach and they go
in hell for leather, you can just almost see them smiling.
I mean they're going too fast x you see their faces,
but they love it, and I think it is right.
If it's a pure greyhound, they love a mess of
run around and then they sleep for the rest of
the day, but love to hear from you on O
aight on hundred and eighty ten eighty this sticks from us, guys.

(43:53):
I breed my greyhounds with a Steffy cross for my
pig dogs because I hunt in the pine blocks and
pigs are bloody fast and a straight line, so the
greyhound helps keep up beautiful dogs. Now that's interesting because
our adopted dog, Pepper is a greyhound mixed with Staffy
and she is super fast, pretty bloody strong, but She's

(44:14):
also a little bit nuts because she's been a rescue.
She's just came with a few issues that has made
life a little bit extra challenging for us, and I
would never give her up. I think it's been a
wonderful thing to be able to adopt Pepper. But like
your mate, we it would be a light to say
it's been smooth sailing. Yeah, it certainly hasn't.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
So should no one buy a dog until all these
greyhounds that have become employed have been adopted.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
It sounds nice and theory, but I just wonder. I mean,
when it's said there that they are ideal for small homes,
I do question that if you've got a greyhound, does
that sound right to you? Ken greyhounds thrive in an
apartment or a small house. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. It is eleven
past two.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Wow your home of afternoon tour Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Call oh eight hundred eighty News Talks.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
V News Talks ed be good afternoon, and we're talking
about adopt or shop when it comes to dogs. This
is on the back of and Adopt a Greyhound event
that was attended by the right on honorable Winston Peters
and Chris Bishop, urging not just the media but anybody
else to adopt one of the greyhounds who need a
new home on the back of the industry being wrapped

(45:35):
up over the next twelve months. So oh, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call, paul Lane,
You had a greyhound, Is that right?

Speaker 10 (45:44):
I had a share in a greyhound, a racing greyhound,
and then when he retired, I took him home as
my own pet. And I recommend people you don't need
to buy a greyhound, you just get them to adopt
them through GAT because they are then trained for a
greyhound as a pet. Yep for people at home are

(46:08):
the ones that either they've either been raised and they're retiring,
or they aren't suitable for racing, because some dogs just
don't want to race. Some greyhounds, you.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Say, it's I mean, obviously you know you're adopting them,
but it's not their expenses in the transaction.

Speaker 10 (46:25):
Pauline, Well, yes, I had a half share with the owner,
so yes, it did cost me initially, but I if
I didn't buy him as a racing dog, I could
have just got him for nothing as such, if I
had adopted him.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah, and they were good when he finished racing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I finished racing and and greyhound. He was a good pet.
No issues.

Speaker 16 (46:52):
He's amazing.

Speaker 10 (46:53):
He's amazing. I had I did have a few issues
now and again, but he's just a wonderful companion. Is
very loyal, He's got his own personality. He's just very
eager to please. Yeah, he's a lovely dog, a lovely

(47:14):
natured dog.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Really nice, Pauline, How much exercise do you have to
give a greyhound? Obviously their runners?

Speaker 10 (47:24):
Yeah, absolutely, he still loves to run, and he's going
to be five in August, and yeah, I take him
down to a dog park and he he just sprints
from you know, he just out sprints everybody out of course,
it's quite quite a bit of show. He still loves

(47:45):
he still loves to run.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
So do you take how long every day would you
take him out for?

Speaker 10 (47:51):
Well, every every day I would take him for at
least two fifteen minute walk.

Speaker 16 (47:57):
But you know, once I've retired, you don't.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
Have to over exist.

Speaker 10 (48:01):
You can over exercise the dog to feature.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Is he a feature?

Speaker 8 (48:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I always think they're fitch dogs that fetch because my
dog will not bring anything back. I mean, that's a
great lazy exercise dog. Just sit on it, sit on
a bench and throw something and they bring it back
to you. Way to exercise them, Pauline, what's your dog's name?

Speaker 8 (48:26):
He's called Quby Joe Joan.

Speaker 10 (48:28):
He's named after my dad that passed away. My dad
was called Hubert and his middle name Joseph. So that's
really special that I could name them lovely my dad.
But he did also have a racing name and he.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Was called like Axel, not nice. And what about with
small dogs, Pauline, do you have to be careful around
small white dogs when you take it?

Speaker 10 (48:50):
He's no, he's very good with other small dogs. He
really loves them. He wasn't at the start, but he's
got used to all dogs and he has been to
a boarding kennels. And then the next time I went
down to a dog park, he went round.

Speaker 15 (49:06):
There was five.

Speaker 10 (49:06):
Different dogs around them, the dog and he went around
and and suggestd them each.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
What a gentleman does he get? Genuine question though? Does
that get trained out of them? Because you hear that
a lot that you've got to be careful around cats
and small fluffy white things because that's what they've been
trained to chase and take down all their lives.

Speaker 10 (49:25):
Is that true, Well, yeah, exactly, I'd never trust them.
I have got a cat though, and he's very fluffy
and they can be together for short times, but.

Speaker 15 (49:36):
I do.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
When I first got him, every cat we saw down
the street, and with every cat seem to come out
to greet him, he would he would try and go
for them, but I just would say, well, no, no, Hube,
it's just a cat. And I keep saying, look, it's
just a cat, no big deal.

Speaker 15 (49:56):
And so I do you know he did.

Speaker 10 (49:59):
He's very intelligent.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
Dogs.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
Well all dogs are intelligent, but you can they do
understand an awful lot of instructions. So it's just a
matter of constantly doing the same saying the same thing
over again, or pulling them up and saying and stopping
them like I can get them to get to a
corner and say wait, and then I can say walk

(50:23):
on and he'll walk on.

Speaker 15 (50:25):
So they're not silly.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Is is Huby Joe there right now?

Speaker 10 (50:31):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
No.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Keep you put Hube Joe on the phone. If hub
the next.

Speaker 10 (50:37):
Time h yeah, yeah, yeah, but no that that looks
They're a wonderful dog. But I would suggest that if
people want a greyhound because the use the industry, which
you know, I'm still on the sense whether it should
go or not because greyhound's yes, they do love to run.
My greyhound still runs and he loves it. But yeah,

(51:01):
I think it's quite sad. I think the expectation of
twelve months now of the spreed going is totally wrong
because yeah, they just sprang it, I think on people.
I mean, yeah, it was always talked about, but then
all of a sudden, you know they're going to act

(51:22):
it where I don't think that's fear.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, well thanks so much for you call Pauline and
Hube Joe sounds.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Like a good boy, what a good boy.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Hey, they are retired, not rescued, and people adopt should
be aware that there will be no more. The banning
of racing will be the end of this beautiful breed
in New Zealand. Really said Greyhound lover that that is said.
But yeah, we were saying that these we weren't saying
that they were rescues. We were saying as two topics.
We're talking about whether you would alike to adopt a greyhound,

(51:52):
the retired greyhounds, but also the wider idea of rescue
jobs dogs over buying a dog from a breeder.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Yeah, oh eight hundred and eighty or a pet store.
So they still do that. Yeah, I suppose they do
with dogs, do they? Well? I don't know if you've
bought a dog from a pitzaw recently. Love to hear
from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. We've got full boards, so we'll play
some messages and come back with more of your phone
calls very shortly.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on youth tog ZV.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Afternoon twenty three past two. We're talking about adopting a
greyhound and also the wider philosophy of whether it's better
to adopt or shop when it comes to dogs. This
Teapsu says, Okay, guys, many people don't know enough about
greyhounds to want one. I'm on my second and I'd
recommend one to anyone wanting the dog. Each has its
own personality, but they sleep fro up to eighteen hours
a day and providing they have a bed and are warm,

(52:49):
not outside, then they'll be happy left alone, short bursts
of energy then sleep. Prime example your program with Mark
the Dog Trainer the other day. No one calls with
an issue about the greyhounds. People always stop me and say, oh,
a greyhound, no one says, or a Stephi or labrador
or toy dog from GeV.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
The six is malvioln is full of skew greyhounds. Most
were personalized pjs. The gentle giants like to be walked,
love to chill out a lot, great for apartment living.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Guess you wear the pj's because they've got they've got
very little body fat, so opposite of you, Tyler. They're
lean machines, they're fast, they're agile.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Thoroughbred. No, no, sp I used to be thorough It's
hard to get back to that. Kristen, how are you?

Speaker 7 (53:35):
Hell?

Speaker 10 (53:36):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Good now, great to chat to you because you've got
an event tonight. I believe that is promoting the adoptions
of greyhounds.

Speaker 21 (53:44):
Yeah, so there's there's twos. It is one in Sunnings
and Parmertan North and one in Bunnings in Hamilton and
will be there with some greyhounds for adoption, So a
good way to go and meet them and see what
you think of them.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
What's the process like? So if someone comes up and
meets a greyhound and likes it, can they take one
of them away.

Speaker 21 (54:06):
Or not on the spot. They need to apply online
and get all these details down, but it's pretty straightforward,
pretty easy from there.

Speaker 22 (54:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (54:17):
Yeah, And they'll also try and match the greyhound to
you as well, so your life style if you do
have cats, obviously it's a bit harder to find, but
some are okay with cats.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
So how do you test that whether a greyhound is
going to be okay with cats or not.

Speaker 21 (54:35):
I'm not the trainer, so I don't know exactly, but
just lots of Yeah, they know what they're doing. So
I'm just fostering for them at the moment, but very
up fostered lots of like rescue, you know, mixed breeds
and stuff, but this the greyhounds by far being the
easiest of to foster.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Oh that's interesting because a lot of people would a
lot of people would think, you know, and I would
think that that'd be a dog that would need a
lot of exercise and a big yard.

Speaker 21 (55:03):
But Is that not the not at all A good
a good walk around the block and he is out
lying down.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Is that because they're sprinters not marathon runners.

Speaker 21 (55:15):
Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, they they can sprint, but very
short period and then they're absolutely done, especially after expert,
they're done for at least a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, So, Kristin, you obviously love greyhounds. Is there any downsides?

Speaker 21 (55:35):
It's just being weary obviously because they have been racing
so off lead and things like that is a bit harder.
They recalls especially, Yeah, when you first adopt them, it's
pretty non existent. So it's just doing that work for them.
But again, as long as they're on a lead or
a long leads, they're pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Can they get away from you?

Speaker 22 (55:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Sorry, I was just going to say. My little dog's
got stumpy little legs. And I was out walking on
a board walk and he stopped, and I kept walking
and didn't look back for a while, and then I
look back and I saw him, and he was confused,
couldn't see me, and then he ran off from the
other direction because he was confused where I was. And
he's tiny with stumpy legs, but he was so far
away from me so quickly to run after him. So

(56:19):
imagine with a greyhound, if they start going away from you,
you're not catching it, then they would get a long way
from you if.

Speaker 21 (56:27):
They saw something to chase. I don't think they would
run up just because, but if something caught their iron,
they wanted to chase it's and you couldn't important to
keep them on lead. I was just going to say,
it's kind of the best of both worlds because you're
adopting but you're also adopting a pedigree dog, so you
kind of got the best.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
Of both of them.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, right, so there's no one, no one, There are
no one. Quantity is really what you're saying. You know,
you know all their trails.

Speaker 21 (56:54):
They breath well, because if they want a healthy dog
to race, you know healthy dog is going to race better.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
So yeah, most people get to the point where they
can take them off off lead and hopefully you know,
even if they see a rabbit, they will be able
to control them, like you need.

Speaker 21 (57:11):
Think it depends on the dog. I think some of
the ones that's for adoption that have failed racing grossel
so they might be a bit deeper. But I think
it depends on the dog and the work that you've
done with them.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Yeah. Great to chat with you, so just give us
the details again for the event.

Speaker 21 (57:29):
Yes, it's Bunnings Hamilton's South and then Bunning's and Palmerston
North both have a bas on tonight.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
And how many doggies are you going to have down there?

Speaker 21 (57:37):
Oh I'm not too sure how many will be there.
I know mine who's up for adoptions will definitely be
in Hamilton. Yeah, but the OBCO meet and.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Pat and what's their name? The one you're fostering, Louis
Louis louis.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Slowly with you? Is llowly with you right now?

Speaker 21 (57:52):
No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
We want to get one likely sleeping we're really keen
to talk to We're really keen to talk to it
to a greyhound.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
We'll get one, Chris the Lovely to chat with you.
Thank you very much. Oh went hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you've got a greyhound standing by a man, it's
really keen to chat with one. Yeah, so is that
too much less?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
It's all very well hearing you know secondhand information about
what it's what greyhounds are like. I'd love to put
some questions really hard questions to a greyhound. Yeah, it's
really it's a real gotcha kind of questions, like, for example,
are all greyhounds gray?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I'd love only the big questions here. It is twenty
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Speaker 3 (59:46):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about greyhound's
adoption and event how today are attended by Winston Peters
and Chris Bishop Guys.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
I feelings, but sorry for you. No dogs want to
talk to you. Tell you what I do? A pretty
good Scooby Do impression? Shall I give you a call
and pretend on a dog? We'd love that, Ian, Actually.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
We're not going to say no to that good offer?

Speaker 15 (01:00:05):
Was there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
The good Scooby Doing impression is key to anyone's repertoire.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, I don't have one, all right, Ian, Oh, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
That was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Actually all right, Catherine, welcome the show. You have two greyhounds,
Yes I do.

Speaker 17 (01:00:24):
I've got one that I've had for three years, and
then I fostered Classy who had a major hock injury
and twenty five thousand dollars worth of surgery on his leg.
And he was a foster and I ended up keeping them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
You did you have to pay the twenty five thousand.

Speaker 17 (01:00:42):
Dollars ket then no, the racing in the story pape,
the racing board pay for that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:47):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:00:50):
And just with the cats and small dogs at get
and Levin, they put them through their paces with the
jack Russell that just nutt is a fruitcake and they
put muddles on them and put them in with the
jack Russell to see if they're okay with small dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
It's a bold jack Russell.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah yeah, got a job for the jack Russell. We
must love it.

Speaker 17 (01:01:17):
Oh yeah, he's the reason that jack russeller. Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
And and so if they do, if they do try
and more the jack Russell, they treat it like the
racing rabbit. Do they can you train? Can they be
trained away from doing that? Or is is that just
done for them? They're they're going to be a they're
going to be a cat killer.

Speaker 17 (01:01:36):
Well no, when they put them in with muzzles on
all the time, some great because or if the cats,
but on the whole they're they're pretty guys like rural.
So they've got rabbits the lord and now they just
don't even bother with them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Really, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Where do you live?

Speaker 10 (01:01:58):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Hor okay? So so if you look like in central
Icago and you had a lot of problems with with bunnies,
would greyhounds just go around and destroy all your rabbits
for you?

Speaker 20 (01:02:15):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (01:02:16):
Well they have one or two one one flushes something out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
And taste of do you need at least too for
the operation?

Speaker 17 (01:02:23):
Yeah, most easiest dogs to train. I've had very to
all your pointers. Tell them at like I've trained and
they were really hard work. These guys are just both
on another night of a needle called needle Nose and
Peppery Coast.

Speaker 21 (01:02:43):
Now I'm puppy because I'm.

Speaker 17 (01:02:45):
Wanting the dogs. They we've both homestays for them. So
the owners go over Casar on holiday and they stay
get to stay in a in a home home home
and yeah, so that's out really really well, that's needle Nose.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, good Catherine, thank you for your call. Is that
the you know, mixed and metosis didn't work down with
the rabbit problem in Central Otago and in the lower
South Island. Yeah, maybe we should just release all three
thousand greyhounds that are being retired into into that area.
I love it, just absolutely destroy Yeah the greyhound again

(01:03:22):
and yeah, so we'll just find the ones that didn't
attempt to kill the jack rustle, Yeah, and ship them
off to be a fosst into families in central Attiger.
Is there a problem with my idea?

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Eighty?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I don't see any plaus It is twenty three to three.
We're back with more of your calls. Very surely.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks'd.

Speaker 20 (01:03:47):
Be it may be a rating dog, but it's incredibly
different when it's at home, very idle. You want have
to do all that much work? Do you look after it?
And they're very very affectionate dog.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
You go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Winston Peters loves them and he is keen for you
and many other people in New Zealand to adopt the greyhound.
He was at an event this afternoon. We know that
there are thousands of great that need a loving home
as the industry is wound down over the next twelve months.
So can you hear from you if you've adopted a greyhounds?

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, and greyhounds is Pitts dot org dot in zis
the place to go. Yep, if you want to look
into adopting a greyhound or down to Bunnings in Hamilton
at five o'clock today there's going to be some greyhounds
out Which Bunnings?

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Good question?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Well we'll look that up again. We'll announce that the
two Bunnings that that there's two Bunnings in the country
with greathounds are going to be there today with great
caller on the on the subject before.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
You can go to greyhound as a greyhounds as Pitts
dot co dot org dot in zi. Rather and I've
got some details there about the events that the holding
around the country.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
This textas says that my idea don't free see I
had an idea or to do what to do with
all the greyhounds is to unleash them on the rabbit
population of central Otago. Don't free the greyhounds and Otago,
you idiots is in they might go after the Kiwi
birds and other BirdLife.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
You mup it right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, that I mean that is quite a flaw in
the plan. We love a kiwis well, I don't know anything.
Going by my mate's farm that I was staying at recently.
There are so many bunnies, yeah, there are. Oh my,
it is crazy. It is absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
So you know you don't have to look fa do
you just look out the window and they are everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
So I think the greyhounds that are interested in the
bunnies would have there have plenty to do down there. Alex,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 15 (01:05:37):
Oh good o. Fellas has a game very good?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
How are you? You've got a couple of greyhounds.

Speaker 15 (01:05:41):
I've got to cut the greyhounds. So I'm going to
try and fulfill one of your wishes. Matte As. You've
been doing talk back for a little bit now, you'll
probably be quite used to these opinions. So first off,
I'm going to try Twiggy twe twigs right, it's a
sea less celebrity on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
That's a compliment.

Speaker 15 (01:06:05):
We'll try the other one. Winston when's got his poor
in the air, Good boy, Winston, the grow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Your news dogs be Winston, Winston, come on.

Speaker 15 (01:06:18):
Winston, come on something. So what they do is instead
of purring they sort of do us funny mickey thing.
They made us so when they when you when you
pet them, instead of like a cat or greyhounds, stick

(01:06:43):
their tongues out a little bit and so they sort
of sound like he was. Yeah, you probably couldn't pick
it up on the phone. Yes, So you've got his uh,
the stamp of his approval.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
That's good. It's actually Winston's the corner of the day
so far. Yeah, I appreciate with the little tongue out.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:07:08):
And he's still put this poor in the air just
to say like you have you got anything else for fun?

Speaker 7 (01:07:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Got anything else, man, But you've got.

Speaker 15 (01:07:14):
A POWs as good as you're ever going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah. So for those listening at home, we got a poor, Yeah,
we got a poor from what job done?

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
And what Winston is he named after? Is it Peters
or Chu Chu?

Speaker 15 (01:07:27):
No, it's he's named after the narrature of Georgia or
Wells nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Oh wow, very nice. Well, and do I need to
ask about Twiggy. Twiggy is just you know, thoroughbreed. He's thin,
then he's fast.

Speaker 15 (01:07:41):
Well she's a she. Oh okay, So Twiggy was they
get arranges when you adopted him. So yeah, yeah, there
you go. So she came as Ziggy and I just
thought twiggy after the sixties, Supermodel was more appropriate, and
Winston was called Flash or something stupid. Yeah, Winston and

(01:08:04):
also Winston was very popular name in the seventies and
eighties in London, especially amongst the West West Indian community.
So wins done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
It's a great name. But kind of ironic that your
greyhounds called Winston and then Winston Peters came in and
banned greyhound racing.

Speaker 15 (01:08:23):
Sort of first question, what's its name? But I've got
one top tip for those who they are perfect. They're
all good that you'll be surprised. They are small, they
can curl up. Everyone everythinks that these guys get two
half hour walks, one in the morning, one in the evening.

(01:08:44):
They like going out at dusk and dawn. They get cold,
so that's why you often see them. They've got very
stin skin. But there's two things i'llswering. One is their teeth.
You have to clean them daily, really because they are
yet they're well, you don't have to, but it really
helped because if you know all the vet bills like,

(01:09:04):
so they are susceptible to bad teeth. So you put
these little things on your finger and you just you've
obviously got to they love them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
It's so easy.

Speaker 15 (01:09:15):
No no, no, no, no no, no, I use I
use a wife. She's not listening. She's a teacher, especially
well she shouldn't be. But when I got Winston first,
he was the first one who's actually raised. We had
we was getting on a bit then, but a black Clad.
So when you first get them, they have like you know,

(01:09:36):
they sleep in crates at night. They're very well looked after,
but they're not They have no idea. So he followed
Reggie the black Clad to learn how to be a dog,
and I think that really helped him as in as
in a pet. And then when we got the second one,
obviously Winston had that experience of you know, using the

(01:09:57):
house as he does. And so that's really good because
when you first get them, they haven't got a clue.
They still chase cats, which is good because if you
come on to my property, you get you get so
but they very rarely catch anything. They're so fast, they
go for about twenty seconds, and it's like, I can't
be bothered so so that they are wonderful and I

(01:10:21):
would encourage people if you can. And I think it's
important because that as we had border Collie as well.
They were probab purebreads, all from you know, breeders. But
I used to love going to the dogs when I
was lived back in London, and it was an issue

(01:10:41):
twenty odd years ago back then as well about rescue greyhounds.
So when to pank Pass, we said, right, we'll have
a rescue you and I said, oh, greyhounds, And then
of course said that my wife she went away and
did her research and before you know it, I was
down in Reston on a very wet day picking up
a bloody greyhound.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
There you go, thank you so much for your call, Winston.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
And there you go. You're happy you got a poor
and you got the way you tongue out per.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, that's that. With that, that's more than I could
have asked for all of the day. Winston a good boy,
good boy, Winston is Winston. But be careful, Tyler, I
don't want you're miss gendering any any dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Okay, yeah, how Daremie? I mean Twiggy sounded you didn't
get much from Twiggy, but Twegy sounded like a great
greyhound as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Dawn, welcome to the show. So you are from Greyhounds
is Pitts dot org dot m Zankkyota.

Speaker 21 (01:11:34):
Yeah, that's correct. I am the events and volunteer coordinator.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
With gap SO events. So just so we get this right,
there's a couple events on today around the country, isn't
there There's one in Hamilton and one elsewhere where people
can go and meet dogs. Is that correct?

Speaker 21 (01:11:49):
Yes, that that is correct, Thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (01:11:51):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 21 (01:11:52):
We've been having a wonderful collaboration with Bunnings where several
of the Bunnings warehouse stores across the nation have been
inviting us to bring greyhounds to a variety of their
events and tonight is their Easter Family Night. They've got
a lot of cool things going and one of those
things is the opportunity for families to come and meet

(01:12:14):
greyhounds and chat to our volunteers about you know, what
it's like to adopt a greyhound or foster a greyhound,
and it's a really great way for people to meet
them because a lot of times people have never seen
a greyhound in the flesh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Yeah, up close. Now, how hard is it? What's the
process once you decide you know, you've meet a greyhound
and you go, look, I want to adopt one. What's
the processed after that?

Speaker 21 (01:12:40):
Dawn, Well, we really try to keep our process simple
for the humans and the sense of, you know, not
making it this crazy journey, but at the same time
making sure that the doggo is going to be loved
and taken care of and that it's really ending up
in a good home for it. And what we do

(01:13:01):
is we have a rehoming team. They endeavor to match
the greyhounds as much as they possibly can to the
applicant that's come forward. So we're going to ask questions
like what's your lifestyle like do you tend to like
to hang out at home a lot? Or do you
want a dogg o that can go to a cafe
with you and be happy at a cafe or happy

(01:13:22):
you know, walking through a market or are you really
outdoorsy so you'd like to adopt a more active greyhound
who's going to be happy to you know, tramp to
the hanulas with you. So we get an idea of
what's your lifestyle like do you have kids? Do not
have kids. Are you a little bit older and we
want to make sure we're not giving you a houndie
that's going to you know, jump around a lot and

(01:13:43):
pull you over. Or do you have a two year
old and we're going to make sure that we've got
to really calm, you know, because they're big, they're big dogs. Yeah,
you know, we want to make sure that you're you know,
we're not. No one's getting knocked over.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
So there must be that must be quite a process
to find the traits of each dog. Aut do you
you have have a system where you go, well, this
dog's this cone of dog, the good lights, that's that's
that's that's, that's, that's and then and then you keep
records on each one.

Speaker 21 (01:14:08):
Yeah. So that's why I always say, like as best
we can, because you know, it is a it's a
lot to figure out about a dog in what can
be a rather short amount of time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:14:19):
So the process, I'll try to walk you through it
quicker so I don't lose anybody's attention. But process basically
is is if the greyhound finishes racing or they determine
that it's not going to race, it goes into what's
called the great mates program. That program is run by
Greyhound Racing New Zealand. They dissect the dog, they vaccinate
the dog o, they do different temperament testings and they

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kind of figure out, you know, there's like a light system.
Or is that it is a green dog. That usually
means that it's pretty bulletproof, going to happily and easily rehome.
Is it an amber dog That might mean there's a
little bit of some behavior stuff. You know, maybe it's anxious,
maybe it doesn't like small fluffies things like that, maybe
it's not good for kids, and you know, and then

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is it a red dog and that means that it
needs to go It doesn't come to us case, it
usually goes to another organization that kind of helps work
with those dogos. So we're looking at greens and ambers,
and that's kind of when they're there. They also cat
test them when they're at the kennel's try to get
an idea of this dog is going to live with
a cat or if it's going to eat the cat.
So I'd say about one in ten greyhounds is what

(01:15:26):
we would call a cat trainable and then they come
to us. In our ideal world, we get every single
greyhound into foster homes, because in foster homes that's where
we really learn about the dogs. That's not always possible,
so sometimes we are just kind of coming with what
we've learned about them from the kennels. So yeah, that's

(01:15:49):
kind of where we get the information and start trying
to figure out who they're going to live with best.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Is there some things that you need to see from
potential owners. Do they need a little bit of space
or can they potentially go depending on the greyhound and
the dog involved, go to an apartment.

Speaker 21 (01:16:04):
Yeah, so I live in a sixty two square meter
apartment with two greyhounds. Wow, they are rated the second
best apartment dog out of all dog breeds. And yeah,
and this is because.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
What's numbers the one it's the Great Dane.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
The big dogs is a door that the greyhounds snuggle
out real small though, because these skinny exactly the.

Speaker 21 (01:16:30):
Dog, Yes they do. And that's the thing. These big
dogs are usually quite low energy, whereas you know, people think, oh,
small apartment, I need a little dog, but little dogs
are quite high energy, and they've also been bred to protect,
so they're going to bark, bark, bark, bark, bark.

Speaker 11 (01:16:46):
But these big.

Speaker 21 (01:16:47):
Dogs, you know, greyhounds, they're not going to anything, but
they don't bark. You know, well, okay, there's the odd
greyhound who barks, but for the most part, they're not barkers,
and so that's part of the reason they're so great
in apartments. They're not going to annoy your neighbors. And
they curl like you said, the little doughnut dogs, they
curl up small. Also, generally, if you give them up

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or a place that they can sleep, that's where they're
going to be. They're like, I'm going to lay here.
The only time my apartment feels slightly small is when Henry,
my boy greyhound, sees me pull the lead out. He
gets really excited and he usually like pounces onto his
giant cuddle pillar and starts prancing around the living room
with it, making a little bit of chaos. But other
than that, I don't really notice that I live with

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these gentle giants in a fairly small space.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Thank you so much. Dawnside Greyhounds as pets dot org
dot z as the best port of call to move forward.
If people are interested in adopting a greyhound.

Speaker 7 (01:17:43):
That's us.

Speaker 21 (01:17:43):
We've got a big button at the top of our
main page that says adopt. That'll take you to the
application for adopting and fostering. Also, we've got to meet
the team page. It gives you every single phone number
and email for every member of our team. We want
to hear from you. We're really passionate to get these
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Speaker 10 (01:18:01):
Dawn.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
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And up next, I'll tell you why greyhounds are called greyhounds.

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Right, you teach people about the origin of the word greyhounds.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
It's very disappointing. It comes from the Old English word
gray meaning dog, and hound meaning hunting dog. So greyhound
is actually basically dog hunting dog. There you go, because
they're not all gray, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Good afternoon to you, Welcome back into the program. Seven
past three.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Well that's pretty interesting, wasn't And then news Winston Peters
is speaking out against the Prime Minister's plan to combat
Donald Trump's tariffs the foreigners to criticize Chris Luxe's plan
to move on forming a free trading block of Asia,
Pacific and EU countries to collectively push back. Luxon has
spoke to World Letters this Afternoons. Peter's is not backing
the plan.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
This is all very premature.

Speaker 20 (01:19:33):
Well, look, and we're trying to sort out this other
thing with America and China's trade war, and we're rushing
off the solutions.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Let's find out what happened there first.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah, I actually I was thinking that this morning. I
thinking about this. Christopher lux In this week has been
going hard on that, and I don't know, don't do
We just want to one hundred and eighteen eighty be
interested to see what people think about this. Do we
just want to keep our head down and wait till
things settle? Do we really want to be the country
that's publicly saying that we are planning to form a

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free trading block of Asia, Pacific and EU countries to
push back collectively? Pushed back? I mean, what has Luckson
actually said?

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Well, the quote from him this morning, so he welcomed
the pause that Donald Trump implemented. He's ramped up the
tariff war with China, but paused the ten percent tariff.
So he said, I quote, what we really need is certainty.
And part of the problem is the instability and uncertainty.
We've woken up this morning and there's been a suspension
of reciprocal tariff's above the ten percent level for many

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countries for ninety days. The danger is that everybody's just
sitting there in a state of stasis, actually not wanting
to invest, consumers not wanting to purchase or buy because
they don't know what's happening next. He said he had
lined up calls with a series of world leaders to
discuss forming a trading block with countries that wanted to
retain the free market system.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Well that's slightly different than collectively pushing back. But I
don't know. Yeah, I'd love people thoughts one hundred and
eighty teen eighty because this is a developing situation. I mean,
how different is things looking this morning than they were
even yesterday? Do we really want to be putting up
a hand and saying, hey, look at us, look at us,

(01:21:12):
look at us. This is what we're doing. We totally
disagree with you. Look look, look, look look over here,
look at look at New Zealand. Because Trump seems to appreciate, well,
this is he was the seventy countries that have reached
out to him. He talks a lot about loyalty and
the people that didn't didn't, you know, put up reciproccriprocal tariffs.

(01:21:34):
And currently, obviously his sights are on China. But do
we really want his sights to be on us? I
don't know? Or is that just cowardly thinking? And if
New Zealand believes in what Christopher Luxon believes, and if
the Prime Minister believes in that, then he should just
go go for it because he believes that's the right
thing to do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Well, ironically, Christopher Luckson has got a lot of stick
for you know, making a lot of noise but not
doing much. Now he appears to want to do something.
But I easily agree. I think that is quite a
brave move from him to say to reporters that he
has lined up all these calls with the leaders to
try and form this. Well, it will be a new
trading block, right, and there's no doubt that that will

(01:22:12):
get back to the United States of America. And Winston
is very very good in that foreign minister role. He
knows how to work a room, and he knows how
to charm, and he knows the ins and outs of
those negotiations. And for him to say premature I would
be leaning on the side of Winston Peters.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Well it is. It feels like a strategy that Christopher
Luxen this week has decided to go hard, hard on
discussion free trade and saying exactly what New Zealand believes
in and we do and that's how we've behaved as
a country. And we're a very very good trading nation
and we're very fair with other people. Yeah, I mean,
Canada hasn't been great with us with tariff lately, but

(01:22:51):
we are very and we have to be Basically, that's
the situation we are in. But I don't know, I
don't know. It seems full on and it is definitely
quite full on that Winston Peters has said, maybe call
you jets buddy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What are your thoughts?
Do you think christ Luxon is jumping the gun here?
Do you agree with Winston Peters that it's premature or
do you support what Christopher Luxen is trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Should the PM keep his head down or should he
be proactive? To use a business speak.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is eleven past three. Very good afternoon to you.
So we're talking about the pushback from Winston Peters. He
is speaking out against the Prime Minister's plans to combat
Donald Trump's tariffs. So Christopher Luxen announced plans this morning
to potentially form a free trading block of Asia, Pacific

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and EU countries. He spoke to worldly leaders this afternoon,
some of those world leaders this afternoon, he says, but
Winston Peters is not backing the Prime minister. He called
his moves very premature, and he says before rushing off
to find new solutions. The government should be finding out
what happened there first and getting to the negotiating table.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
So it's an interesting coalition. Governments are interesting out there,
especially with one Speeds because this is the deputy prime
minister and sort of a contradicting the prime ministers. It's
pretty interesting. But yeah, I mean, the question we're asking
is should Christopher Luxen be going so hard at this
point or should he just wait? Ye As Whenston Peter says,

(01:24:26):
to see how things settle currently America and China are
going at each other, do we really want to put
up our hand and say, look at us, look at us.
We're trying to form a new trading block, but of Asia,
Pacific and EU countries to push back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Do we really want to say that? It kind of
feels like the only advantage we've got at the moment
is that the US is not really paying attention to us,
which is a good thing, and by keeping it down
and not ruffling feathers or trying to set up a
potentially new trading block with other like minded nations at
this stage, I would be leaning to what Winston Peters
is saying here that Hey, now is not the time

(01:25:02):
for going for a new strategy. Let's just call our jets,
keep our head down and hopefully the US will treat
us quietly going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Trump's only in office for four years. This is this texture.
He can't run again. Reacting might be premature, but safeguarding
New Zealand against any future trade instabilities, whether from the
US or elsewhere, is never going to be a bad thing.
And so I support the Prime Minister's move. You know,
he's doing it quite publicly, though, isn't he Because you
could have these chats to all these leaders and just

(01:25:30):
you know, feel things out a bit. But he's doing
the press rounds and saying, look that this is what
I want to do. I want to He's being very
very clear on that he doesn't support what America is doing. Yeah,
Luxon should keep out of it. He's not the world
CEO he thinks he is. Says this texture. Yeah, Charlie,
your thoughts.

Speaker 16 (01:25:51):
It depends exactly what he's trying to do. On the
sweet he's pushing back against Trump. It's not a good idea,
but it doesn't sound like that's what he's doing. If
he's looking for a way of maybe leveraging some more
momentum on free trade agreements and people like India and
such like. It's a fabulous idea.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Do you see the angle from Winston Peters And he's
you know, he hasn't used incredibly strong language here, but
he's alluded that it's premature and right now, arguably it's
better for us just to keep our heads low. And
we do have diplomat diplomats in the US right now,
probably around the negotiating table or in a good position

(01:26:29):
to start those negotiations. Is that a fair argument, Sharp.

Speaker 16 (01:26:34):
I don't know. I mean, we're not highly in the
fact that we believe in free trade, and that's Luxon's
a huge part of that part of it. So he's
not going to against everything he believes. I mean, we've
been spending the last however many years trying to get
a free trade agreement with all these countries. In a
way this could fast track our ability to do that, So,
you know, I don't think it's a slight on trumb

(01:26:55):
and details him. I don't believe in taris while he
said that a million times, most people have done. But
if he's using it as a pushback to Trent and
that's quite different, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Yeah, it's interesting because I'm just reading the headlin that
came through and this is breaking and it said the
Foreign Minister's criticized Chris Philux's plan to move on forming
free trading Block of Asia Pacific in the new countries
to collectively push back. Can we just bring up what
actually Winston Peters is said, because it has just just happened.
If we play that and let's actually listen to what

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Winston Peters said, we'll.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Just get that audio lined up. You just give us
a thumbs up when you've got that ready to go. Andrew,
So this was Winston Peters. He was at an event
earlier today and he was asked the question about this
new plan. This is him speaking right now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
This is all very premature. Well, look, and we're trying
to sort out this.

Speaker 20 (01:27:45):
Other thing with America and China's trade war, and we're
rushing off the solutions.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Let's find out what happened there first.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, so let's find out what happens there first. Is
what he's saying. Do you think that there's any do
you think that's what? Why is it all? Charlie just wait,
like still completely still completely believe in free trade as
we do, and obviously Luxon has his views. But do
you think there might be some advance auntage and just
playing a little bit quiet at this point?

Speaker 22 (01:28:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:28:14):
I mean the Jackie Grady played after that actually seem
to specify exactly what Laxman was doing, which was going
about as this is. I mean, there could be some
good that comes out of this, you know, we don't
know how. Apparently it just just been reading and the
thing that China reaching out to Australia at the moment
going to be best budies with him more. I mean,

(01:28:35):
now I'm sure the Australians are good because that is
that going to annoy Trump while Australia's doing that with China.
I don't know. But where do you draw the line
with this guy? I mean he's a crazy man. I
mean every day he changes and changes his mind and
what he's going to do. I just think we need
to carry on what we believe in, as you say,
I don't think we're pushing back on Trump. I just
think for being smart.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Yeah, or maybe it's getting to the table on time.
But you know, people say that Trump is changing what
he does every day, but he's been He campaigned on
saying exactly what he was going to do around tariffs.
Some footage of him on Oprah talking about it from
the nineties. Trump has been very clear what he's doing.
He's but he's actually doing what he said he was

(01:29:17):
going to do when he was campaigning, which I think
is freaking out freaking people out a little bit. Yeah,
but he's not opposed you know, maybe just doesn't even
care about New Zealand, but he's definitely not opposed to
just slamming someone because they put their head up, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Yeah, I mean to Charlie's point, I can understand that.
And Charlie, I get your point that if there are
opportunities that can be gained from, you know, countries, say
in the European Union that traditionally we haven't had strong
trading relationships with, if we can leverage that, that's a
good thing. But you've got to get that balance, right,

(01:29:51):
don't you. With what is happening currently, it's clearly a
very moving situation and every country needs to be very
careful about how they tackle it.

Speaker 16 (01:30:01):
Yeah, I mean that this ninety day flip flot yesterday.
It just shows that he misunderstood how the market is
going to react. And I wouldn't be surprised if this
ninety days gets pushed out further, you know, I mean, what.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Do you say to people that don't say that. You
know a lot of people in America are saying that
that wasn't a flip flop, that this is the plan
all along, and it's just Trump playing out his Art
of the Deal strategy that is, you know, was in
his nineteen eighty seven book.

Speaker 16 (01:30:28):
Well, I guess you had to decide which side on
whether he's a genius or idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Ye, yeah, thank you for your call, but just you know,
and that is your bang on that. He has been
talking about his not love of terrorists, but he clearly
likes that strategy, and he's been talking about that not
just in the last year, but for the last twenty
thirty years. Right, So nobody can say they didn't know

(01:30:54):
it was going to happen. The problem was that they
never thought he was going to implement it because they
couldn't understand the rationale. But that's very different. He was
quite clear, quite clear during the campaign that he was
going to en next terists. He said it again and again.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Dude has been talking about it for thirty years. Yeah, exactly,
how does that saying go about? Evil happens when others
stay silent, good on lucks and support China and others
being made to kick kiss Trump's butt? Yeah, I mean yeah,
I mean that's kind of what I was saying before
was and I was like, is Luxon doing this because

(01:31:27):
he thinks it's a moral stand? I don't know. I
imagine he must think that this is a strategy, a
strategy to you know, jump in while things are hot
and see if he can sort things out for New Zealand.
But you know, I guess time will tell.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Yeah. Quick, a couple of messages here, Tyler, You're clearly
not an export. No I am not. So if you
are an export, I love to hear from you. How
do you feel about this? Are you right behind Christopher
Luckxon's plans or are you more akin to what Winston
Peters are saying is that we just need to take
a step back and just let the dust settle and
then start to decide what our strategy is going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
I think when s Peter's has been handling things with Trump, wisely,
and we got off lightly with only ten percent. Like
Peter said, we should wait to see where the chips
settle first and not be too hasty in our reaction.
Not to mention it's foolish to upset Trump. That is
saying what I tried to say in a such a
much more succinct way than I've been trying to say.

(01:32:23):
Thank you, dear, thanks you for your text.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It's twenty three past three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Be afternoon, twenty five past three, and we're talking about
a potential change in strategy from the Prime Minister that
he's looking into. It's getting a little bit of pushback
from Winston Peters. So what the Prime Minister says he
is looking to do is he wants to put the
feelers out for a potential new free trading block with

(01:32:58):
out Asia Pacific partners and others in the European Union
on the back of the tariff situation that is still
unfolding as we speak. Winston Peters has said today very
recently that it's probably time to just have a we
pause and a breather. I'm paraphrasing here, this is not
a direct quote.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Clearly, he's saying, there's a lot going on between America
and China right now, let's just let the dust settle.
Is this more about Is this more about the wind
being taken out of Winston's role as trade negotiator. Winston
doesn't like his turf being encroached on this. Texasays, thank
god for Winston yet again, Luxeon showing his naivety. And

(01:33:36):
this has been said. Trump can get a third term,
he can be elected a third time. JD can be
elected and step down to let the VP Trump take
the reins. I'm living in hope for that to happen,
said Jake. So as everything with Trump in the headline,
there are wildly disparate views. Glenn, welcome to the show.

(01:33:57):
Your thoughts on this?

Speaker 23 (01:34:00):
You guys just oh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Glenn, think we just last year. We'll put you back
to Andrew one. We got you back.

Speaker 23 (01:34:08):
A couple of things. Firstly, Trump's flip flopping all over
the place. At the time he was announcing that there
was a ninety day pause going on. One of this
as made your advisers, was speaking to Congress saying Congress
saying that they were staying the course. The left hand
doesn't know what the right hand's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Well, that's is one of his advisors. That that's you
don't know whether his advisor wasn't on the plan though,
you know.

Speaker 23 (01:34:37):
Sorry, the reality is he was saying that Trump was
going to stay the cause he'd been talking for two hours.
Had to be interrupt Congress to say that Trump had
changed his mind.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
So do you think, though, if we agree that, let's
just say for argument's sake, that Trump Trump is flip
flopping all over the place, do you think under those
circumstances it's good for us to be playing a hand,
as christ of Luxon seems to be, or do you
think as Winston Peters seems to be, suggesting that we

(01:35:10):
wait things, wait for things to settle.

Speaker 23 (01:35:13):
I don't think he's playing his hand. I think one
of the things that New Zealand needs to do. It's
a very I think partners that we are trading with
in a free trade agreement all the time before.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Oh man, we've lost you, Glenn, because we really want
to hear what you think about this. Yeah, but we're
currently just having terrible phone line from you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Absolutely, we'll go to Greg in the meantime and hopefully
get Glenn back. Get a greeg.

Speaker 22 (01:35:41):
How are you going, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Oh that's a beautiful clear line from you, Greg. Thank you.

Speaker 22 (01:35:45):
Take take Trump seriously but not always literally. He loves
McDonald's and they love our mince Man, right, brilliant those
So look, he's a horse trader. Watch previous Paller said
about the guy in Congress. There was actually some hours
in between those two clubs. If he was watching CNN

(01:36:10):
or something, that's probably what he would have seen.

Speaker 8 (01:36:12):
It would have been.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yeah, there's been a bit of pus, there's been a
bit of there's been a bit of pushback on how
that was that was put together.

Speaker 7 (01:36:18):
Oh, of course, of.

Speaker 24 (01:36:18):
Course it is.

Speaker 25 (01:36:19):
Of course it is.

Speaker 22 (01:36:20):
I mean they had they had several people talking like
from twenty four hours ago over there, and I watched
all the cable networks for three or four hours a day.
It's a bit of an illness really. But look, he's
got close to seventy countries. Now that he's got three
of the experts are going to sit down with and
negotiate and at the end of the day, China is

(01:36:43):
the problem, and they've isolated China as the problem. You
look over the Bibing years with the spy balloon, and
there's all the punching of intellectual property, there's there's a
trillion odd dollar trade deficit, and there are other countries
like Canada and Canada itself. The hypocrisy there is I
think was it twenty twenty three they stuck a one

(01:37:07):
hundred percent tariff on Indian e cars and e bikes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Yeah, well, well we're currently they're currently screwing us over
tariff that at the moment. We've got them in the
world trade courts at the moment Canada.

Speaker 22 (01:37:20):
Yeah, yeah, So look, at the end of the day,
the markets are going to be all over the place,
as they were with Covid, as they were with the BFC.
Just let the dust settle. And I'd rather have Winston
on it than Luxton on it at the moment. If
the crap at the fan and we had a referendum,
which way do you want to go? You know, do
you want to go with China or the United States?

(01:37:42):
Where do you think that vote would end up?

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Yeah? Now, Greg, if this is a standoff, between China
and America. Who do you think will blink first?

Speaker 22 (01:37:54):
Well, China's in a massive, massive financial hole at the moment.
They've built city upon city upon city that are empty.
Their whole shear market was I think seventy percent geared
to their population, and a lot of them, you know,
the mid class people in China over the years, that
have lost a lot of that value and shares because
the government promotes these people to buy shares to crop

(01:38:17):
the market up. It's a sugar coated plastic economy. If
you look at at and America. Look, he wants to reindustrialize.
Why not at the moment there was a conflict, the
military conflict. China's got the steel, the aluminium, The've got
the pharmaceuticals that got all the PPP gear in America

(01:38:39):
hasn't and that's what he wants to flip around.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I guess the question is how quickly can manufacturing come
back to the United States. And if you add into
it that China doesn't really have elections, well, it doesn't
have elections. It has elections, but we always know who's
going to win the elections. Whereas Trump has to keep
his people on side. There's midterms that come up at
some point and the Republican Party might blink and start

(01:39:05):
putting pressure on him. So under that that, you know,
just just democracy versus not democracy, you can you can
hold on to your plans for longer. From China's perspective, well, look,
put it this way.

Speaker 22 (01:39:18):
Can America keep kicking their debt can down the road?

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:39:21):
They forty trillion in debt now, if that's what the
Democrats want, borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow. The interest alone is
more than their GDP in the States. It has to
change somehow somewhere, and he's getting billions of dollars in
every day with terraffs. There are countries that are now going, yeah, okay, yeah,
we do need to talk to you. Yes, we're the

(01:39:43):
European Union. We're slapping thirty percent on your cars and
you're putting two and a half percent on our cars.
If that was New Zealand and Australia and you know,
a trade sort of spat, I think people in this
country will be saying the same bloody thing. Look at
what China did to Australia over the last ten years
with their growin and their wines and everything else. You know,
here's five hundred percent tariff here and four hundred percent

(01:40:05):
tariff here, and that eventually they backed off. But China
is the problem intertwined with China, you know, in perpetuity.
So that's our position.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
So our last caller said that Trump's a madman and
he's flip flopping everywhere. Greg, do you think that he's
got a plan? Do you think he's playing three D chess?

Speaker 22 (01:40:27):
I don't believe that was a flip flop because within
that time period, all of these countries are now wanting
to sit down and talk, and he's got three of
his senior people that have that have split up and
they're going into groups to talk to all of these
countries that definitely want to talk to the States.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Yeah, it does seem to Japan and the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
It does to be fair seem very much the playbook
from his nineteen eighty seven book The Heart of the Till.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
There's a big difference between a flip flop and a tactic,
and that feels like a tactic and that word.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Yeah, But as our previous caller said, you know, depends
which way you look at it. Thanks for you call, Greg,
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
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the final debate on his Treaty Principle's Bill before it's
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Speaker 12 (01:41:30):
Mister Speaker, members of this House.

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Can still change their minds.

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Where are the police helping.

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Us with us?

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
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(01:42:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean, and we're talking about
a small kerfuffle between Winston Peters and Christopher Luxen, but effectively.
Christopher Luxon said he has plans to move on forming
a free trade block of Asian Pacific and EU countries
to collectively push back around the situation that's happening with
the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
And appears at Winston Peters as pushback on Christopher Luxon,
saying cool your jets. This whole China America thing is
blowing up right now, putting words into his mouth, but
maybe just let the dust settle a little bit, Luxo
before you go hardh I'll tell you what. Like everything,
and when it comes to Trump, we're getting a binary response.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
We certainly are. Now. Just before we go back to
the phone calls and text, here's a little bit of
what our Prime minister had to say just before he
called some of those world leaders.

Speaker 25 (01:43:10):
A lot of my focus is on the Indo Pacific,
in particular, the countries that I have visited and the
leaders that I've built relationships with and wanting to check
in with them and really understand where they are and
how they're interpreting what's going on in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
So there you go. I mean that is what did
that add to the Well, well that he's trying to
form this free trade block with the Indo Asia Pacific partners.
So I said, yeah, we want to hit that again.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Put that again.

Speaker 25 (01:43:36):
Nope, A lot of my focus is on the Indo
Pacific in particular the countries that I have visited and
the leaders that I've built relationships with and wanting to
check in with them and really understand where they are
and how they're interpreting what's going on in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Well, that just sounds like he's checking in as opposed
to this new headline said that he was her plans
forming a free trading block between Asia Pacific and EU
countries and that he just said I'm checking in with them.
That's a very different thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Well, maybe he's already toning down the language after what
Winster Beaters said. But a couple of texts coming through
on nine two nine two, this is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
What I was talking about for the binary response, the
opposite the despout response, Greg is a clown being a
US bootlooker. How many countries have China invaded versus the
US And yeah, for Greg, someone talking common sense, you
could be more polar opposites in their opinions there, Glenn,
welcome to the show. We've got you back.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
Sorry boy, So where we left off. You saw the
potential of what Christopher Luxen is trying to do here.

Speaker 23 (01:44:37):
Yeah, I think the reality is we're a free trading
nation and we have been for a number of years.
We've champion free trade agreements and we've wanted to get
one with the US for many many years. Now, We've
we've got tariffs on US products totally one point eight percent.

(01:44:58):
Now the Trump Trump's people are saying it's we've got
us at twenty percent, which is just completely in coherent.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
So yeah, that's that's that's an equation based on the
you know, the just you know, the what do you
call it deficit? Sorry, yeah, that's right now.

Speaker 23 (01:45:20):
The trade deficit is what the trade deficit is. You know,
the government can't impact the trade deficits. The current government
can turn around and say, well, we'll buy more of you,
because that's not up to the government to do so.
That's up to the importers to make the call about
where they want to import. So what's left to negotiate,
and I mean with all jurisdic to Winston, I think

(01:45:42):
he's doing a magnificent job. But the reality is, long term,
we need to be trading with like minded countries, and
unfortunately we can just no longer trust America.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Well I get I get a lot of that, Glenn.
But the problem I have with this strategy as it's
been done in public, shouldn't this be happening behind closed doors?
I think we can all agree that any extra strategy
or leverage we can get is a good thing, but
at this point that should be just with government officials
rather than media stand up information.

Speaker 23 (01:46:15):
Well didn't we didn't. We were we very public when
we went to India and we you know, we were
openly looking for a treat free trade deal with India.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Well, I guess, I guess what's what's different as the
I guess Whence Peters is just call you jets. Briefly,
let's just wait till the dust settles before we make
any big plays, because we don't want, rightly or wrongly,
we don't want Trump to suddenly make an example of
US and say, look, there you go, one hundred percent,

(01:46:46):
hundred percent tariffs on new Zealand because they're trying to
form this this this free trade.

Speaker 24 (01:46:53):
You know, this trading block and just you go fundamentally,
So fundamentally, if we if we trade more with other countries,
like minded countries, and we trade less with the US,
does that automatically fix the balance of trade deficits that
we've got with the US.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Well, it's really just the purchase of it's so close,
it's really the purchase of a plane difference, isn't it
at this point.

Speaker 23 (01:47:20):
But if you increase the trade with you know, we've
only got a limited amount of products South. So if
you if you increase the trade with other like minded
free trading company country and that as a result of that,
you reduce the amount you're trading with the US, then
all of a sudden, our trade deficit disappears. He should

(01:47:41):
be thanking us.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
Yeah, interesting, Yeah, I will thank you so much for
you coodling.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
I mean, they are currently our second biggest trading partner,
is all, and that would be a pretty pretty intense
smack in the face if suddenly red meat was one
hundred percent tariffs were just slammed on our meat that's
currently going into a lot of burgers over there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
Yeah, exactly, And just in terms of the international pickup
of what our Prime minister said, I'm just having a
look at the new sites now. It's been picked up
by Bloomberg, it's been picked up by Reuters, it's been
picked up by CNN. So there's no doubt about it
that information will get back to the White House. Whether
that's a good thing or not, I suppose we'll wait
and see. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to court. It is seventeen to four.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
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Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams. Afternoons have your say on
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Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
Afternoon. It is fourteen to four and we are talking
about Winston Peters, the Deputy Prime Minister. He's speaking out
against Christopher Lux's plans to potentially or try and combat
Donald Trump's tariffs. So the Christopher Luction's plans involved a
move to form a free trading block of Asia, Pacific
and EU countries to collectively push back, and he spoke

(01:48:58):
to some of those world leaders this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Has he actually said that though that he is trying
to form a free trading block because in the audio
that we played before, all he said was that he
was going to reach out for catch up. But it
has made CNN and Bloomfield. Yep, almost immediately, hasn't it. Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
So the two headlines I'm looking at the moment from
Reuter's New Zealand Australia speak to other countries on butt
racine free trade and Bloomberg New Zealand proposess rule based
trading block to counter tariffs, and CNN is the similar
headline to Bloomberg.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Yeah, so we're getting both sides of this here. Trump
is brilliant. He's played the whole world for his entire country.
We're all watching in awe. This text to says, anyone
who thinks Trump is a strategist clearly hasn't watched the
man speak. If it walks, talks and looks like a moron,
it is a moron. The fact that his strategy is
working is purely coincidental.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Okay, thank you very much, Aaron. How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 8 (01:49:54):
How are you?

Speaker 15 (01:49:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:49:55):
Good goodness, hilarious listening to you. So I'm hearing skepticism
in your voice, and Mattie and I think you're right
I'm calling the yes on that headline. I'm going to
call it now at whatever time it is three forty

(01:50:17):
seven in the afternoon market, because I think what has
happened because you have not played audio onto the Prime
Minister saying what the headlines claiming, and I think what's
happened as a reporter somewhere, probably quite less leaning, has
extrapolated out his conversation turns it into saying it's not
then other world media have gone or someone's criticizing Trump.

(01:50:39):
It's a world leader will brand that it's a headline
because you look at the ones that have run it
are quite anti Trump, so of course they're going to
run that headline.

Speaker 23 (01:50:48):
And so that's that's my call on it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:50):
That's where it's at right now.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
It's a fair quote. Yeah, it's a fair call, Aaron.
I've just found a direct quote here, so and this
is how it's been written, so you can take, you know,
a little bit of it with a grain of salt.
But Luxeon said he would be testing what leaders and
this is the quote quote here directques can do together
to butterer us the rules based trading system. So he

(01:51:13):
told those gathered at the event, can what we can
do together to buttress the rules based trading system.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Yeah, that's quite different from forming a free trading block
of Asia, Pacific and EU countries to collectively push back.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Yeah, that's fair that they're slightly different things.

Speaker 8 (01:51:29):
It's kind of like a scene out of Star Wars
when they're forming trade blocks that hearing similar language. Yeah,
so I think Winston's here, we just ride this out.
New Zealand's not in a bad position in the whole deal. Yeah,
because we've got the lowest tariff. Most of our trading
opposition overseas as higher tariff, So of course we're going

(01:51:50):
to do better out of this. So I don't see
the drama. And as far as the reset goes, the
world absolutely needs a reset and the because you know,
you haven't got the same company spacy rules and China
you've got the same environmental rules. So it's an uneven
playing field for manufacturer in most countries of the world
that's played by the rules. And then there's argument. So

(01:52:13):
there's many reasons why this needed to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Thank you so much for you call eron.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
Yeah, I'm just trying to find more information. We've tried
to find that audio and difficult to track down. He
did speak to the country, I believe yesterday in a
similar vein, but you're right, and the language is important,
and if he didn't after the words trading block, then
that is very different from having conversations about what may happen,

(01:52:39):
you know, down the track.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
What I've heard from Crystal Eluction on interviews on this
radio station has been a full throated endorsement for free
free trade and making it clear that he disagrees with tariffs,
which is a position that New Zealand saild for a
very long time. And christ flux and differently differently holds.

Speaker 15 (01:52:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
The latest tweet that Christopher Luxeon has just put on
X and I'll read this. This was posted at three
forty six pm this afternoon, so minutes ago. This is
breaking news, and he says, I've just spoken with Malaysia's
Prime minister. He leads a country that is our tenth
largest export partner, as well as our two countries being
partners in the CPTPP. Prime Minister Anoa is chairing ACIAN

(01:53:22):
this year. So we've had a great discussion on how
we can work together to support free trade by the rules. Okay, diplomatic,
very diplomatic.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Yeah, I mean, is that collectively pushing back or is
that just reaching out and doing what Christopher Luxen was
doing in India and just trying to push our trade globally.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Oh, eight hundred, ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Or do you agree with Winston Peters that we should
just keep our heads down for a little bit and
see how the dust settles with everything that's happening between
China and America at the moment, considering how much things
have changed in the last twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
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Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Good afternoon, it is six to four and we've been
discussing Christoph lux now Prime Minister appearing to speak to
other world leaders in the Asia Pacific market about the
free trade rule system. Here's a little bit of what
he said earlier today.

Speaker 25 (01:54:26):
A lot of my focus is on the Endo Pacific,
in particular the countries that I have visited and the
leaders that I've built relationships with and wanting to check
in with them and really understand where they are and
how they're interpreting what's going on in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
And Winston Peters was asked about the strategy this afternoon,
and here's what he said, This is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
All very premature.

Speaker 20 (01:54:44):
Well, look, and we're trying to sort out this other
thing with America and China's trade war, and we rushing
off the solutions.

Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
That's fine, up what happened there first.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
So there's been plenty of texts that have come through
over the course of this discussion. This one says, guys,
we aren't forcing our meat on America, as the earlier
caller alluded to. They want it, So what if we
can sell it elsewhere and say no to them?

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Yeah, I mean that's trade highest price you can get.
Absolutely bahaha. The fellas with Trump derangement syndrome all sound
the same, high pitched and on the edge. Okay who
specifically was talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
Then, Well, Luxeon is finally growing some balls. Peter's needs
to resign and so does Donald Trump. Both old idiots.
Free trade should exist, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Trump always overstates his goals, hence his pores on high
tariffs and living at universal ten percent. As for free trade,
who does it not Ossie, not Canada, not the EU,
not Japan, definitely not China. They're the worst offenders. That's
from Stan. Well, it's been a great hour of conversation.
Ryan Bridge will have more on this developing situation after

(01:55:54):
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