Full Show Podcast: 10 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Welcome to Matt and Tyler Afternoons, podcast number sixty three
from Monday, the tenth of February. I'm going to keep
this on Troy really cork Shorks. I got to run
down and watch the end of the Super Bowl. Fly
Eagles Fly on the road to victory. A great chat today.
We're talking about American sport and whether and a lot
of people saying the Super Bowl was boring. But boy,
we had some good chats with people about other sports

(00:39):
and clinting some support sports.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You wouldn't expect people to talk about. Turns out people like.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Violence, Yep, that's what danger aspect.

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New Zealanders like violence, and that's what they equate with entertainment.

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A lot of slalom skit its weird.

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Speaker 5 (01:03):
Talking with you all afternoon.

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It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoon with the Vols.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Talk said, good afternoons. You welcome into the show. Great
to have your company as always.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Can immense get a Tyler, fantastic to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
After three, I want to talk about little secrets you
keep from your partner.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Is it okay?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
This is after I was sitting in my car smashing
McDonald's into my face and in the car out the
front of the.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
House, hiding away from your power.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, is that okay? After two?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Are auctions the most horrible way to buy a house. Yes,
this is after the gavelf It was banged in an
Auckland house auction. The house was awarded, but then the
auction was reopened controversially and ordered to another buyer, the
original winner of the auction. It's always funny to say winner,
because you know you've won the right to pay off
a mortgage for over a very long time. It's furious

(01:57):
about it. So we'll talk about that after two. But
right now it is Super Bowl Monday or Super Bowl
Sunday in the United States of America. It is a
huge deal, not just over there, globally. The tickets to
go along to Super Bowl fifty nine or Super Bowl

(02:17):
Licks as it's written in Roman Europeol numerals. Tickets between
four four hundred and sixty nine one hundred and eighty.
That's quite a growth since nineteen sixty seven with the
first Super Bowl, where tickets were twelve dollars each. Fifty
five million dollars in ad revenue just across the Super
Bowl over then the States one hundred and twenty three
million viewers last year in the United States alone, close

(02:39):
to a billion worldwide glamour, glitz, crowd, social media up
the wazoo, Superstars, the President's at the game.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
American football seems to be growing and growing and growing
and growing.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But if you're listening to the show right now, you
aren't interested in the Super Bowl or not interested enough
to be at a Super Bowl party.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
There's a huge raging one downstairs. When I came in
the building, it really is.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
The whole place is pumping with Super Bowl fans, all
in their outfits. Bars across Auckland that I saw are
open especially for Super Bowl. People are taking the day off,
but Super Rugby, Super Bowl and Super Rugby in the
news at the same time because Super Bowl Rugby is
about to kick off, and more than any other year,

(03:28):
I feel like Super Rugby Crickets, we're hardly hearing about
it at all.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Super Bowl is everywhere. Super Rugby is very very quiet.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
So if you aren't interested in Super super Bowl or
American football, love to hear.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Why, it's unreal the hype behind Super Bowl, and I
get super Bowl is the is the you know, the
final of the NFL season, so it's a massive game.
But this hype that I've seen for today, and I'm
not a massive NFL fan, in fact, I'm not a
fan at all, is unreal. I think the hype that
I've seen today is more than I've seen for an
All Blacks game for many many years in a World Cup.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's actually a fair criticism, Tiler. It's pretty rough to
compare the start of season to the end another season,
of course, because the season builds up to the finale,
and of course hype builds up across across the season.
But I do think that the hype is there. But
what has rugby got? What has Rugby and Leeue got
that American football has not? What leads you to keep

(04:23):
with the sports that don't have as much hype and
don't have as much glamor and don't have as much
money behind them. Weight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
or nine two nine two is the text number the
first text have seen that's just popped through here. Couldn't
give two flying IF's about the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Wow? Yeah, and this one super Bowl was boring, much
like Valentine's that from Martin oh eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty. What is it about American sports that seems
to have captured the attention of particularly young sports fans?
And obviously with Super Bowl today? But I'd say, Matt
that the general season of NFL, the hype was bigger

(05:02):
this year than it has been in New Zealand. I think, ever,
would you agree with that? And I know you're a
massive inner, so maybe you are a bit biased here.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
And I think fantasy is a big part of that
as well. Fantasy football is blown up and rugby unions
not as well equipped to be turned into a fantasy sport.
Just the way the stats are collected are quite is
a little bit different. But yeah, I think it is so,
And you know, I fear for it because my kids

(05:32):
don't care about rugby union at all, but they're across
American sports, So I know what can New Zealand sports
do to try and compete with this?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Onslaught. I'm going to ask you a question very shortly
about how you got into NFL specifically, because there must
have been something that attached you to your beloved rams,
and I want to hear that answer very shortly.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But yeah, and also we're going to go live to
the actual Super Bowl. We've got Ben Harlem, serious XEM producer.
He's at the ground and we're going to give him
a call and ask him what what's happening there right
at the cold face of Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Licks love it?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty What is ANFL and
American sports more broadly doing that rugby is not doing
here on the ground? Or do you disagree? Are you
still a massive fan of Super Rugby and the All
Blacks and you find American sports a bit boring? Nine
two nine two is the text number. It's twelve past one.
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Speaker 1 (06:32):
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Speaker 4 (06:44):
B News Talks there B. It is fourteen past one,
and we're talking about the massive rise of the love
of the NFL in New Zealand. There's no doubt about it.
Looking at the hype for Super Bowl Monday, which is today,
of course, is the most hype I've probably seen ever,
and more hype than I've seen for an All Blacks
game for some time.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
And look they're coming to Melbourn playing the Melbourn Cricket,
the Rams versus the Eagles. Eagles are in the Super Bowl.
They're coming to Melbourne. So they're making their play for
this end of the world.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
The NFL. They're coming for you.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, which will sell out in record time. Now, I
mentioned before the break, I want to ask you, how
did you attach yourself to your beloved La Rams.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, I just came across the video game, the Madden
American Football game Madden. I'm not sure it was on
PlayStation one, so huge game. A long time ago. I
played Madden, and then so I learned the rules of
American football from playing the video game. And then I've
been a huge Dodgers fan baseball fan for the longest time,
and there was wasn't a NFL franchise in LA since

(07:48):
the Rams left. And then so when the Rams came back,
the Dodgers sort of associated themselves with them, and it's
sort of the easiest team to go and see. I'm
going to see the Rams plan and so far. So
that's how I got to being a Rams fan. Before that,
I was a Raiders fan. But now I'm all in
on the Rams. But in this game, you know, in
this game, it's definitely fly you girls, fly on the

(08:09):
road to victory. Fight, Eagles Fight. It's got a touchdown one, two, three.
I'm all in on the Eagles for this game. It's beautiful,
very patriotic.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I want to see. I hate the Kansas City cheeks
and I don't want to see them when I'm furious
about the whole whole thing. So even though the Eagles
knocked out my beloved Rams, Fly, Eagles Fly, We'll.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Fight up about it. While they are hit at the moment,
aren't they Yeah they are? Yeah, all right, let's go
to the phones, Nick, good afternoon to you.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Good amen. American football. One big feti binging into another
big feti and they all they make half a yard
and all fall over. I mean, everyone jumps up and
hot dogs around. The hotdogging is just oh my god.
Those guys wouldn't last five minutes on the rugby league peddick.
They open their trap and they would that would be

(09:00):
met with an almighty punch in the face and told
to get on with the game.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, but there's I mean, it's a totally different game.
So you have different set of skills, right, So you've
got to have your offensive and defensive lines, and that's
where your big fatties are and they fight each other.
But then you have got then you've got absolute athletes,
the wide receivers. You know, you've basically got Olympic sprinting athletes. There,
You've got your running backs. They are totally different shape

(09:26):
as well. So one of the great things about rugge, every.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Time they miss a tackle, always that they should have
made you. Always you hear about he's the greatest athlete
on the planets. Just for once, can't they just say, God,
that was a terrible mistackle. Take them around the legs
for goodness sake. But look, I'm hoping today that the
Philadelphia Eagles lose because, like you, Tyler, I'm a massive
baseball fan, and I don't want the Eagles using up

(09:50):
what little good luck Philadelphia sports teams get. And so
my Phillies bloody, you know, because I know you're a
Dodgers fan and that annoys me. And I'm sure and
there's a bandwagon happening there. I'm sure of it. I'm
sure there's a bandwagon happening there.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But anyway, f I've been with the Dodgers since before
they had any success at all, and then I've just
been But when we can't.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
We can't come together.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
A man United fan to let me get you a
man United fan?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Probably not.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
I don't want I don't want the Eagles using up
any Philadelphia good luck. Might fully have to win the
World Series this year.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Okay, well we can. We can come together in our
love of Chase Utley.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Though then dodge Chase God, I've got to Chase Utley
T shirt at home.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, I would discuss you, and I'll discussed you, and
I'll tell you I've got to Chase Utley Dodger's shirt.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Yes he was a Dodger as well. Yeah, yeah, we'll
give you there. He went to the Dodgers Philly Bully
Dodgers this year, phillies, Mate, we've got a beacher. We've
got a beacher, all right.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, okay, so that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So next is that he finds American football boring and
has a problems to where it's run. But he loves baseball.
But a lot of people would say baseball's boring. I
love baseball. I love cricket, yep, I love rugby. Those
three sports are always being accused of being boring. And
I hear people accuse, you know, football soccer being boring

(11:19):
as well. So isn't it just that you don't know
the sport When you know the support and you've got
you know a sport and you've got you know, you've
got skin in the game because you really passionately here
who's who's going to win? That's when it means something
to you. So I'm always suspicious of people that say
a sport's boring. It's the Dunna Krueger effect. You just
don't know enough about it. You don't know enough about

(11:39):
the details that you can say and it's a great man,
but you can say it's just a couple of fatties
working into each other. But when you start looking at
the going in depth and the details of what those
guys are doing in the offensive and defensive lines. Then
it's very very complex and very very interesting, certainly is
so my question would be, I wait, undred eighty ten
eighty or nine two ninety two, what is the most

(12:01):
exciting sport in the world or what is the quintus?
What is the objectively most exciting sport in the world
when you take away things like national Pride, and you
take things like you know, how much knowledge you have
in the sport? What is the what is the instantly
most exciting sport in the world.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Good question, I've got an answer for you. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to hear from you on
that as well. Nine two nine two is the text number.
And we'll be going live to the Super Bowl in
the stadium. They're in New Orleans in just a couple
of minutes. Yes, speaking to Ben Harlem, host of Serious AIRFM.
So look forward to that. Right nowadays, twenty past one,
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Speaker 4 (13:28):
It is twenty three past one and we have been
discussing the huge hype around this year's Super Bowl. While
joining us now is Ben Harlem. He is serious XM
host and he is there live being very very good
afternoon to you.

Speaker 9 (13:43):
Hi, guys, how are you? I am literally here in
the concourse watching from afar and seeing what's happening. What
a good court first quarter so far?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, amazing Eagles ahead. Well, a clearly incredible atmosphere. Can
see that on the TV. I can only imagine what
it's like to be there. It's the crowd going for
the Eagles or the chief who's the favorite with the
people there.

Speaker 9 (14:03):
Look As someone who lives in New York normally, I
know that the Philadelphia fans are very vocal. They can
be very outlandish, and they can be crazy, and they
are living up to their reputation at the moment. They
are going insane at the moment.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
So with Trump and Taylor Swift, how was the security
getting into the ground.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
Yeah, well that's what I was trying to work out
all morning. Was was the police escort for the President
or for Taylor Swift? He was shown during the national
anthem to a very mixed reaction. Taylor Swift was also
shown on the screen again to a very mixed reaction.
So that sort of shows you the half and half
fans that are here. I know who I would prefer

(14:46):
to be in a suite with and it's not the President,
I'll tell you that much. I much prefer Taylor Swift
and her celebrity booth.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
How did you get to go to the Super Bowl?
Did you have to pay? Or is this a business
you there? Professionally?

Speaker 9 (14:59):
I would love to say that me doing this cross
with you makes it attacked right off. But I did
get my ticket through work. I didn't have to pay
the five thous and New Zealand dollars that they were
going for earlier today. I luckily paid face value, So
I'm very lucky.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
And where about to your seats?

Speaker 6 (15:18):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (15:19):
I was up in the nosebleeds and then someone came
to me and said, Hey, my sister actually had better seats.
Do you want to swap? So I went down to
the next section down and she went up to seat
with her family.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
I was like, this was a bonus?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Is the best?

Speaker 10 (15:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
And in terms of the hype leading up to the
Super Bowl, bem, what has it been like on the
ground in America? Is it kind of the talk on
the street everyone is discussing this particular Super Bowl? Is
it that big? With people on the ground every wink.

Speaker 9 (15:46):
Oh yeah, absolutely. So here in New Orleans for the week.
It's been crazy. Like I was here. I was in
Vegas last year and I thought that was like in
like crazy. Sorry I'm saying crazy a lot. I thought
that the atmosphere was really intense last year in Vegas,
but this year is something else. It feels like that
everybody's been talking about the game. Everybody has a has

(16:06):
an opinion on who they think is going to win.
It's been really fun to watch, actually, it's been I
know that the Taylor Swiss hype was a lot last year,
but that stuff has died down. It's been very much
everybody either e cited for the game or the chicken
wings and beer that they're drinking at home.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Now being I'm feeling guilty keeping you on the concourse,
or when you get back to the game. It's an
amazing situation you're missing out on here. But which team
looks like they've got this stuff early on?

Speaker 9 (16:31):
You know what, Eagles have been very good in that
first quarter and they really have shut down everything that
the Chiefs have delivered. But she's just caught an Eagle's
pass and they're trying to get down the field. So look,
at the end of the day, you can't bet against
Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs have already done it two
years in a row. They are down at the moment,
so we'll see if the Eagles condyle things up for

(16:51):
the rest of the game.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, thank you so much for talking to us, Ben Harlem,
serious XM host, very very jealous that you're there. You
go back to your seats and you have a fantastic time,
and you know, give them a taste of keywing.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
All right here, I go back on my seat.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I love it. Thank you very much. That is being
Harlem's serious ExM host. Oh man, you've got to feel
pretty jealous by their man.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, I certainly do.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I mean, look as Australian at an American game, so
give him a taste to key is not probably the
right thing to say.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, you did say up the words. It's a nice
place to end that year, right, Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Now you ask the question before, what is
the most exciting sport on the planet.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, because everyone's texting in here saying American football is boring.
I hate it, And that's abound to happen when you're
running this top at Quella Super Bowls on. Yeah, because
the majority of New Zealand American football fans will.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Be watching the TV and not listening to us. Two wounders.

Speaker 11 (17:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
But so if you're going to say that American football
is boring, then eight hundred eighty ten eighty what sport
is more exciting? And give your give your case for
I don't know, rugby union, Yeah, you know league, there's
some great techs coming through. Nine to nine too is
the text number? Are you going to state what you

(18:07):
think is the most exciting sport on the planet?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Me?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I was just texting being think this is unprofessional for me.
I was just texting being we were talking to You've.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Got to keep the corries happy. Yeah, what did he say?

Speaker 11 (18:19):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Sorry?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I said crazy about two hundred times there.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Oh that's right. That summed it up very well. It
was clearly a crazy atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I was just texting about great chat and so I
wasn't listening to you, Tyler. Sorry, unprofessional of me. I've
got one eye on the on the Slipper Bowl, one
eye texting the guy who're just talking to And I
asked your question, what was it, buddy.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
What is the most exciting sport on the planet. I'm
going to give your mind right now, and maybe you
give yours after the headline, and we'd love to hear
from you as well. But I think genuinely, and it's
died down a little bit, but I still think it's
right up there, UFC. You don't have to know bugger
all about the sport. It's got the personalities behind it.
Conor McGregor is when I got into it, quite substantially.

(18:56):
He's dropped off now he's got a bit older and
he's not fighting anymore, but his personality and the confidence
and it harked back to Muhammad Ali. But you don't
have to know anything about it apart from they go
into the octagon and they beat the crap out of
each other and it's short, fast, here, the exciting, brutal.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
The most excited I've ever been in a game in
any sporting fixture ever was the semi final of the
Cricket World Cup twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
That was the most excited I have ever.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Been, you know, just before Grant Elliot smoked that sex
to put us into the final. So, but that's a
lot of you know, to say cricket's the most exciting
sport in the world, that's probably a hard sale because
if you just showed it to someone that knew nothing
about it.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's quite hard. It's quite hard to get into.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But with all the build up to that and my
love of cricket growing up and my love of the
Black Caps all coming together in that moment, that was
the most exciting, potentially exciting moment of my life outside
of the birth of my two children.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, and we've got to find that audio because it
has something to behold. But that is down to that
precise moment, right That very ball was what made did
it exciting? I mean the lead up was fairly exciting.
I imagine there's rain then there was, it was a
lot going on yet. Yeah, but oh, e one hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call love to
hear from you. What is the most exciting sport to

(20:21):
you on the planet? Objectively? Headlines coming up with Raylean
it is bang on one point thirty.

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Speaker 4 (21:51):
Thank you very much, Raylean twenty six to two.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
So the Super Bowls on Super Bowls they're calling it.
It is Super Bowl fifty nine Eagles versus Kansas City Chiefs.
They're going for their third.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
In Arono and we've ever done it before. But the
text machine is blown up on nine two, nine two
and eight hundred eighty ten eighty with people saying that
American football is boring.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
If it's so.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Boring, why does they make five hundred and fifty million
dollars an ad revenue every time it's on. But anyway,
the question we were asking is what's more exciting then,
and what is the most exciting sport in the world, right, David,
David your.

Speaker 11 (22:27):
Thoughts, yes, young man, I just had a left field
a bit. I'm not looking at rugby or American football.
But if you want to define an exciting sport as
something that is displays daring and skill, then in my opinion,
the most exciting sport on this planet is these incredible

(22:51):
athletes in downhill ski racing, slight and racing.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh yeah, right Ad, the slalom.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
Saloon, Yes, I've done a bit of skiing in my use,
and I'll tell you what those people have got. So
afternoon showed they've got to go there. The students, they're females,
certainly do.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I've watched some of this firsthand.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I was staying at a lodge, a skiing lodge down
in the South Island, and the American slalom team were
staying there as well, because they're practicing there on season.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Off season.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I went to watch them train for a bit and
it is terrifying how fast they they screened lie down
the mountain.

Speaker 11 (23:29):
I know, and it's not I don't think it's class
as a team sport as such, but well, in a
sense that there is that those people, my god, they
it's so dangerous and so skillful. It makes s gets
me interested.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
As part of it, David, And be honest here, that
part of you is hoping one of them goes us
up and has an almighty crash, because there is something
exciting about that. Granted, you hope that they're going to
be all right, but you know, there's a little bit
I think behind each of us saying a crash is
quite exciting.

Speaker 11 (24:04):
It's exactly the same reason my motorsport. One gets so
many viewers, doesn't it the hope of the carnage.

Speaker 13 (24:12):
It might not be that.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It might not be the hope of the carnage, David,
so much as the threat of it.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So you're always on the.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, just aiding the danger see them tumble.

Speaker 11 (24:23):
Yes, hopes they're wrong word, sorry, expect well.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
That the the the Yeah, the teachers, the chance of
us yeah, yeah, makes it exciting and it makes you sorry, David.

Speaker 11 (24:38):
You no, I'm interrupting, you know. To me, it's not
it's not that having had a few prayings myself on
that after a couple of which was not good. No,
it's no, it's not so much the hope of injury.
In fact, if anyone does get injured, it's makes me

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feel bad for them, you know I have been. No,
it's the it's just the sheer daring of these people.
And you can look at a rugby team or your
football team, and even American football is slow unless dangerous
by comparison to a top fast salm racer.

Speaker 10 (25:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, clearly you you are a man that can see
the skill of someone who does the slalom scheme, which
is a heck of a skill one hundred eighty ten
eighties and number to call. Thank you very much as always, David.
A few texts here, guys. Nothing beats the sale GP.
Absolute magic on the water, exciting, fast, quick and we've

(25:41):
got skin in the game.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Love it, yees see.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
I think that further Today's point around slalom being exciting
because of the danger. Sal GP has added a lot
more danger when you've got those all the boats.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Foiling towards a mark together.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, that and the pace they go, and when you
go down to watch it, you're you're in the grandstand,
they come straight at the straight at the grandstand.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
It is.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
It is exciting because of the danger they added danger.
Do sports need danger in them to be truly exciting?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
There's not a lot of danger in soccer football and
it's the biggest sport in the world. There's not a
lot of danger in table tennis, but that's hugely popular.
Love watching that, yeah, but there's a lot of danger
in mma.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, a lot of people are texting through. Women's volleyball
is the most exciting sport. Interesting, it's a good watch.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (26:31):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
E one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call what is the most exciting sport on the planet?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
To watch?

Speaker 4 (26:37):
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Speaker 4 (26:54):
They'd be good afternoon. On the back of Super Bowl Monday,
which is underway right now, we've asked the question what
is the most exciting sport on the planet?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
People are saying that American football is boring. I think
there's done in Kruger. I think you don't know enough
about it too. If you think it's boring, any sports
seems boring until you get into it and understand that
this is an interesting text on nineteen nineteen nine two.
Why can't we watch American football live and free to
air in New Zealand but have to pay? Why can
we watch American football live and free to air in
New Zealand but have to pay to watch the All

(27:24):
Blacks their natural sport team national sport team in Australia.
Games involve the national teams are live and free to air. Yeah,
I mean the Super Bowl is free on TVNZ plus.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
It is a fair point. I mean, do you think
that is behind some of the waning of interest in
the lights of Super And I will say that the
waning interest in the lights of the All Black I.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Think the All Blacks and Rugby and New Zealand needs
the revenue they get from Sky to run their operation.
Whereas you know, as I was saying before, five hundred
and fifty million in AD revenue for playing the Super
Bowl on American TV, so the AD revenue can cover it.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Absolutely. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call, Bob You reckon if I was one
of the boring sports.

Speaker 14 (28:12):
Uh. Yeah, I firmly believe that. I lived in Richmond,
Texas for like nineteen years. I had a home there,
and I used to frequent the games, particularly the college games,
with my best friends, and I believe it's the most

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boring game after.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Test cricket controversial.

Speaker 14 (28:41):
He had two sons that played the game in college
football and they were delighted if they got more than
two minutes playing time on the pack. Yeah, it's just incredible.
That was a big day out, a big sporting day out.

(29:01):
If they got over two minutes, they were just aesthetic.

Speaker 11 (29:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I mean it's a different kind of game, and I
think New Zealand has struggle to get our heads around
how the game is put together. It's sort of sorry,
it's a game about moments, so it's like a sprint.
So there's a lot of set up and then you
go and then things happen over a matter of seconds
and then you set up again.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
What sport do you find exciting? Bob?

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Oh, you're down you're a skier as well? Are you?

Speaker 12 (29:36):
So?

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Not just lalem? Just downhill straight downhill skiing?

Speaker 14 (29:40):
Not me more, I'm maybe two years old. Yeah, that
was my thrill of.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Oh yeah, I mean that's okay, so participating, there's no
doubt that downhill skiing is an exciting thing to do.
But what about in terms of viewership watching a sport,
what's what's what's your favorite sport to what?

Speaker 14 (30:02):
Well Slalen was downhill skiing? Isn't that?

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Okay, so you're you're like an X game sort of guy, Bob,
or is it just skiing? You know, we've got some
pretty phenomenal athletes who are performing pretty well in snow sports.

Speaker 14 (30:18):
Oh, I think of marvelous what the New Zealand guys
are doing. I'm a girl, incredible stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, yeah, the freestyle Zadowsky, Senate and Portius, they're they're phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
And that you know, we were talking before about risk
in a sport.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
You know, you used to watch ski jumping, you know,
and you thought that was incredible and you'd watch it
and you go, wow, yeah, that's terrifying. But then you
see what these freestyle snowboarders do. It's it's crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
John, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 11 (30:55):
Good?

Speaker 15 (30:55):
Thanks?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
And what do you reckon? It's the most exciting sport
on the planet.

Speaker 15 (31:01):
I reckon rugby, rugby league gain, American football all the
same to me, contact sports.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
You reckon each had it strength and weakness, right.

Speaker 15 (31:10):
Yes, yes, I agree, totally agree.

Speaker 10 (31:12):
So when each can learn a bit.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Off each other too.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
And so when it comes to the inn of ol,
what would you say would be the strength and the
weakness of American football?

Speaker 15 (31:24):
I think I think the advantage is the third, fourth
and final game, when you get ten meters, you get
the ball back. There's a it's a. It's a change
of the gameplay every so often. You imagine if the
Warriors could kick the ball ten meters in there and
get it back, they restart the technic cap.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, I think, I think I agree with you, John.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think one of the things about it is there's
also a countdown all the time because you're always trying
to move move the chains, so you're always trying to
get their ten yards and you've got four attempts to
do it.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
So there's a.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Constant small battles all the way through the game. And
I think if you don't understand the game when you're
watching it, like what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Nothing's happening.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, but you don't know that, you don't understand that
the strategy is they need to get four yards here,
and so they've got to come up with the strategy
that will get them four yards.

Speaker 15 (32:06):
Yeah, exactly. And the balls and the tish every good
place rugby league the balls only in the contest on
the fifth tagle when the opposition can get the ball.
And that's what's got over rugby league and Rugby's got
advantages is to contist every breakdown.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (32:20):
Well, yeah, I mean they just they just can't crack
the defensive line of rugby league, so rugby the defensive
lines are too tough to crack. So each team can learn,
each smot can leave a learner butt off each other.

Speaker 14 (32:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yeah, because because when you say, with rugby union, for
some of the ball is always in contention. You're always
trying wrestling to get the ball. And that's one of
the great things about rugby union. There's a saying that
one of my friends said to me, he reckons the
best game of rugby union is the best sport you'll
ever see, but the worst game of rugby, the worst
game of rugby union is worse. And he believed the

(32:51):
average game of the league was better than the average
game of rugby.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Totally, totally, So John, I say to you, Oh sorry,
you go carry out.

Speaker 15 (33:03):
I think that's another thing that rugby can learn off good.
There's only sixteen games in the season, you know, and
they're all sold out. They're all you look forward to.

Speaker 12 (33:11):
It.

Speaker 15 (33:12):
If you go back to when COVID was here and
Super Rugby started in April, all the games were sold out.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, you're scarcely. Scarcity is important.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I think another thing that they do I think, which
is amazing and I often you know, you know, people
talk about the mass commercialization of American sport, but in
American sport, they will never play professional football the on
on on the Friday because they leave space for the
high school game, and they won't play on a Saturday,
so they leave place for the college game. So they've
thought about the game across the whole thing. I mean,

(33:45):
can you imagine that? Can you I Mentionine Rugby New
Zealand saying we're not going to We're going to leave
space for high school rugby to be played on a
Friday night, so we're not going to put games on
that that time to make sure the game keeps growing it.
It's that kind of hardcore decision that keeps a game
scarce and gets people supporting it from the bottom up.

Speaker 15 (34:03):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because if you don't, if you don't
make it as an American football person, you've become a
life supporter. And I think that applies for all sports.
You plower. I used to play rugby and I'm an
all black supporter.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Through and through.

Speaker 15 (34:16):
But if we're losing people in our game so young,
they don't become live supporters and that's the problem we've
got with our national game, that American doing better than us.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
So, John, if there was a scenario where the Super
Bowl is on, we've got let's say the Rugby World
Cup and the All Blacks are in the final, and
let's say State of Origin is on, what would.

Speaker 15 (34:35):
You go for? Well, I wouldn't go to the State
of Origin because I'm a Kiwis.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
The Grand Final the Grand Final? Well, and the.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Warriors are in the ground, it's got to.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, that would be huge? Would It'll be huge?

Speaker 6 (34:55):
It'll be huge. The thing with the Warriors is it's
going to be a bit like the All Blacks.

Speaker 15 (34:59):
Once they win it, the expectation is they're going to
be there to win it all the time. And and
that's the newson in public. So so you know, and
I think that's part of the problem with Will next
to you.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
They had the six six success.

Speaker 15 (35:12):
Under McAll and all that, and now everybody's just sort
of had enough of it. They were on the waiting
for the Warriors to do it.

Speaker 11 (35:18):
Jump ship.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
But you know, can you imagine a world Can you
imagine a world, John, where where the Warriors have won
so much people lose interests like what happened with the
Crusaders and.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
All blacks exactly?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I'd like to if only.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I don't think it's possible.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I think that competition is just too hard to have
dominance like that.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
But anyway, hey, thanks someone we called John. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
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Speaker 4 (36:02):
It be It is seven to two, and we've asked
the question what is the most exciting sport on the planet.
It's on the back of Super Bowl that is underway
right now. But a lot of teas came through saying
that any FL was an incredibly boring sport. Wrong, yeah, wrong.
So we've tisted that around and say, if you don't
like NFL, what do you love? Get a Greek?

Speaker 16 (36:20):
Hey, I actually quite in love watching ANFL. I think
it's a great sport, but if you're sports staying, you
just take a good doubt of whatever still playing. It
doesn't matter whether it's seadily rinks or darts or angry
or cricket or swimming or poppy or whatever. I just
enjoy watching it and it doesn't matter that it's slow.
There's a huge amount of strategy goes into the game.

(36:42):
But I don't think we sort of being to understanding
here in New Zealand. But one of the things that
NFL do properly that we don't and then is it's
free to air. Then here as well. They might all
be free to but they have a Sunday game. Was
only what they have, you know is they night game
just played on all the EVF for nothing. And so
you guys said it by them giving them the high

(37:06):
school football Friday night and Commas football Saturday night. That's
how you encapsulate and keep your base working instead of
you know, he would have a test match at seven
o'clock on a Saturday night, but the increasing teams will
be playing at six thirty or five or else, and
then we get finishing time to watch it. And I
don't think there's a lot of planning goes into that

(37:29):
and you know, I only watching two Test matches back
to back or the key we said all Max at
Eden Park, I think quite a few years ago now,
but it was a great spectacle and that's the sort
of thing you need to do to give it go.
But you know what you guys said that having a
sextyness in the final of the World Cricket Cup was
there sporting highlight, because I think it's a very personal

(37:52):
individual thing. Whatever your main sporting highlight is, whether it's
whatever it is, you know, and for me that's a
personal thing as well. So it's but it's a great
sporting moment for me, best sporting moment in my life.
So not for me, it's my son. But you know,
I think that that's a principal thing on an international stage,

(38:13):
and so yeah, I love watching it on the busy today.
Unfortunately otherwise that be sitting and I'm watching on this
even because I just all love the atmosphere, the game, yeah,
you know, the strategy and all the rest of it
and the rubbish and the after on show entertainment. So
you know, one of the things I can't at this
theme is why they haven't taken T twenty Cricket was
one day predicted Heart in America. It's an ideal game

(38:35):
to their broadcasting set up.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, well, I think I think the thing with that,
Greg is that it's just ingrained baseball as a catching
and throwing game. It starts with you father and son,
mother and daughter or whatever in the backyard, and it
just goes through. It's ingrained into their whole culture. So
I think it's really very hard for a game like
cricket to get into that because it's just not something

(38:59):
that they know, you know.

Speaker 16 (39:01):
You know, I know, I appreciate that, and it's never
going to change. I'm just like, it surprises me that
they haven't because of the way crickets structured. But you're
right listening grained, and you know, it's a sporting highlights
away our percival friends and you know, if you want,
I watched watching it going where I mean the su
give the pronoma. It was an incredible piece of sporting. Yeah, moment,

(39:24):
the nursery of the country, just like winning the World Cup.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Greek, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Thanks for call. Sound like you're on the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
But that's all good will take calls from any any
part of your house, your workplace.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
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Speaker 4 (40:01):
SEV heard it's seven bars too. A lot of excitement
in the studio. What's going on, Matt?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think a J Brown? How I got money on
for anytime? Touchdown? Just scored a touchdown for Eagles.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I've just ran into a super Bowl party in the
break and you're.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Back in time because you're professional. But yeah, this is
a hard day for you, mate, You know you genuinely
you see please have a leave day. Well originally, but
then you thought, no, this job means a lot more.
So I'm going to be here front up.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I'm an American sports fan. I love baseball, I love NFL.
Of course, I love cricket as well. I love rugby.
I love League I love a lot of sports, but
I go deep into American sports, and this is a
tough day for me. You know, for the last eleven years,
I've been in a breakfast so super Bowls have been
very easy for me to watch.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I don't want to jinx anything or do I even
ask this. I mean, it's looking good. It's looking good, man.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, I mean the Eagles phenomenal up twenty four nothing.
We're still in the second quarter though, And just I
don't know how much do you need to be up
on Patrick Mahomes before you can feel any kind of safety.
I mean, he is, you know, he's in the conversation
now with Tom Brady, greatesful time. If he won this,
he'd definitely be in the conversation. So you can't give
him a chance to win it at the end of
the game or he will. But look, we're getting off

(41:16):
topic here. It's not just about Super Bowl, because those
that care about the Super Bowl probably watching the Super Bowl.
We're talking about what's the most exciting game of the world.
Because when we brought up Super Bowl before, just the
text machine on nine two nine two exploded with people
saying American football is boring. So if American football is boring,
and I think you've got Danna Krueger. If you think that,
I think you don't actually know enough about the sport.

(41:37):
And I feel like if you grew up with it
and you studied it, you would probably love it. But
if that's a boring sport, what is the most exciting sport?
So eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two,
what's the most exciting sport in the world? According to you,
hey boys? In my opinion, rally is the most excited,
exhilarating form of motorsport. There's nothing like a car flying
sideways down a gravel road at one hundred and eighty
kilometers an hour. They are the most talented drivers around.

(41:59):
Cheers Willie. I agree, rally is an insane sport and
look long may the audience be risking their lives standing
on the sidelines watching that sport, But the talent and
that it's absolutely phenomenal rally And that's another sport I
got in two three video games as well.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah, WRC Rally, which was a phenomenal game. I mean
phenomenal competition. I mean, have we fallen off as a
nation a little bit when it comes to rally driving.
We were at one stage it felt like incredibly invested
in WRC. Did Possum Born ever make it to WRC.
I think he may, I may have.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
This is a funny text here in nineteen nine two.
I was going to watch the Super Bowl, but I'm
going to work site. The painter of just painted the wall.
I think I'll just watch that dry much more interesting. Yes,
someone here says, when you're going to talk about esports.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, wait, give us a buzz. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. There has been a messive up tickt esports.
I know that is slightly controversial calling them sports.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
This texta here says, is this a man cave afternoon?
So boring?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yes, it's man cave afternoon. You've given me a name
for it. It's man cave afternoon. But yeah, yeah, absolutely,
we're talking sport.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yeah, and ladies, if you're listening right now, clearly you
know women watch sport as well. If you've got a
sport in mind that you think is the most interesting
on the planet, love to hear from you on e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. But let's go to
the phones. Chris, how are you this afternoon.

Speaker 17 (43:28):
Yeah, good, thank you, Kelda Kelder. Yeah, so I wanted
to talk about I don't know if it's a sport
that a lot of people would know. But during my
studies I came across uh docu series on Netflix called
Home Game, and in the very first episode it was
called Culcio Sto Rico based in Italy, in Florence. In Florence,

(43:52):
in Italy, and it's like a cross between rugby and mem.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Oh so spelt c a l cio.

Speaker 17 (44:01):
Yes, it's cel Cio sto Rico, and it's got it's
a mean history about it. When I watched it, I
was this is brutal. It's so brutal, and the rules
behind it, like you cannot be a part of it.
They've only got four teams that happens once a year
and you cannot be a part of those teams unless

(44:21):
you were born there.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
So if you are.

Speaker 17 (44:24):
Part of that family and you move out of Florence
and you were born outside of Florence and you can't
come back and play for them. You have to be
born in the city to be able to represent these teams.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
So, so, what what did you say? It was like
a combination between Mma, and what.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
Rugby.

Speaker 17 (44:41):
Right on the thing, it says soccer, rugby, big time
wrestling whole lot.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
So does that just mean that you can you know,
it's an actual fight for the.

Speaker 17 (44:52):
Ball basically, yeah, yeah, they say it's it's a brawl.
But they've got some rules like you can't kick people
in the head, but you can body land them and
all those sorts of things. And you score by getting
the ball into the opponent's goal, just just like soccer,
but in the last fifteen minutes, and they just they

(45:12):
just go for it and it's like pride, pride in
their area.

Speaker 18 (45:16):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Chris, what about off the ball? So you can you
can fight for the ball do pretty much anything?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
What about off do you just fight?

Speaker 17 (45:27):
That's all part and parcel of the of the strategy.
So on the rules, there's like twenty seven twenty seven
players on each team, so fifty four on the field.
You've got a couple of goalies, you're half backs, fullbacks
and stuff like that. But it's basically I don't know
if you've seen there's an old school movie called Salute
of the Jugger, and yes, Salute of the jug and

(45:48):
it's basically just a massive rumble for fifty minutes, and
they say when it comes to the subs, you cannot
substitute people that are injured and cannot you know, if
they're injured to the point that they can't move. Well,
now it's twenty seven on twenty six, Ah, right, So.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
That sport you're just looking at has been played since
the sixteenth century.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Ye, it's got a bit of a history to it.

Speaker 17 (46:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hard out. So when you see what's
the most exciting, I like most sports, you know, And
I think I heard a couple of people say they'll
be interested in slalom slalom and things like that. So basically,
whatever you're interested in is going to be the most exciting,
and they were interested in that, Like I like watching

(46:34):
a good game of soccer because the skill involved. I'm
actually watching the NFL right now, and so again there's
just the skill that's involved in these different sports. But
I think you raised it when you said if you
don't understand it, well, then people aren't going.

Speaker 15 (46:52):
To like it.

Speaker 17 (46:54):
So yeah, each to their own, And I suppose that
that's what the good thing about sport is that if
you're into high, high octane you should go onto the
Home Game series. Watch episode number one of the whole
history and then it's just brutality.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
That's on Netflix, is it?

Speaker 17 (47:13):
It was on Netflix, but you can go on YouTube
and just and type it in and there's like a
twenty minute clip on the history of it in a
couple of games.

Speaker 19 (47:20):
Nice.

Speaker 17 (47:21):
So there's not even any prize money involved. I think
you get like they win a cow for the somebody there.
It's crazy. It's just basically pride from where you come from.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I've got a friend from from the States speaking about
where you understand sports or not, and he was actually
he played as a running back in college football, but
I've been teaching him in New Zealand sports and he
struggles a little bit. I took him to watch a
bunch of Warriors games and also watch the All Blacks,
and at one point he asked, why is the score different?

(47:56):
Why is the points for a try different? Between games?
And after all I'd explained to him, he hadn't noticed
the difference between league and union, which seems so.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Massive to us now.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
It seems because we've been brought up with that, seems
that it's so clear they're different sports.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
But if you haven't been clear for him. It was like,
I can't tell.

Speaker 17 (48:14):
That Night Live Saturday Night Live did a thing with
George Washington, like you know, a skit, and they talked
about football and football.

Speaker 10 (48:23):
Is a game.

Speaker 17 (48:23):
So they kicked the ball sometimes you know football you
can't you throw and you catch it, we will kick
the goal and you know how you said he couldn't
tell the difference between the points and it was like, well,
how much of the how much of the kick worth? Well,
sometimes the worth three and sometimes they're worth one there,
but nobody knows. So there and I thought that was

(48:45):
quite quite a good.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Well, it was one thing that one thing that he
said to me that he thought was unfair that if
you know you're kicking a conversion right over by the
touch line, why is it worth the same amount of
points as one that's right out the front. When it's
about one hundred times you're harder to get across.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
That's a good point.

Speaker 17 (49:01):
Yeah, yeah, well that the whole thing with with the
American sports is they just do it different. My son
over in America and I went over there and we
basically had like a boys two weeks and we went
to the NFL. We went to college basketball. We went
to the NBA and we haven't managed to get in. Like,
I don't even like ice hockey. I was like, no,

(49:22):
we'll just go because it's a thing I've never been to. Yeah,
and the ice hockey fans where they were next to
where they were crazy, and just the whole vibe and
every single one of those sporting arenas was amazing. So
America just does sport different.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
You've got the money walking it.

Speaker 17 (49:39):
On TV versus being there, two different things.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Yep, thank you so much for me.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
You call Chrus. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you want to have a chat
about the Super Bowl. Love to hear from you, but
also what is the most exciting sport on the planet.
Nine two ninety two is the text number back very
shortly here on News Talks eb Wow.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoon
with the Volvo XC ninety.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Turn every journey into something special.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Call News Talks, News Talks, it'd be good afternoon and
we're talking about the most exciting sport on the planets.
One hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call Michael,
how are you good things?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I understand you're going to put forward and you're going
to put forward the case for curling.

Speaker 13 (50:30):
No, no produce to mess. It's hurling.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Oh, hurling, Yes, hurling in Ireland.

Speaker 13 (50:37):
Yeah, you get pretty guys and give them sticks.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Yep, I've seen it. They're like massive, massive wooden spoons.

Speaker 13 (50:47):
Something like that. I've occasionally had one flat across the fears.
The supports were what do you call it helmets? Yep, yeah,
and it's just yeah. The fight afterwards is usually more
interesting than the than them. I think the guy that

(51:09):
was that was talking earlier, they weren't running an arm,
was sticks and beating each other around the head with them.
And then there's the scoring, which is the similar for
both Gaelic football and and for hurling, which is that
if you get it over the bar similar bar to rugby,
you get a you get a point, and if you

(51:30):
put it in the in the net you get a goal.
So you can have a score like three goals and
eighteen points too, and everyone has to try and work
out what who actually won because you've got to add
the scores together.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
So is it closer to hockey? Is it closer to
hockey or lacrosse neither neither.

Speaker 13 (51:53):
You can you can actually you can run with the
ball on the on you know, holding it on the
stick yep, but you can only take so many In
Gelic you can only take so many steps with the ball,
so you've got to bounce it. You can kick it,
you can hand pass it. Yeah, it's very it's different
to all of them.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
So it's sort of a is it a sort of
a bigger is it a bigger ball like a soccer ball.

Speaker 13 (52:18):
It's bigger than a soccer ball again, yeah, my and
a heavier ball too. Yeah, if you if you had,
if you had a a soccer player with a a
Gaelic football, you'd you'd knock them over.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
And it's popular.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I've just looked it up and there's there's ninety two
there's eighty two thousand people at this All Ireland Celia
Senior Hurling Championship final in Crook Park.

Speaker 13 (52:48):
Crook Park in Dublin ticks eighty or ninety thousand. In fact,
the rugby guy because if he the only between forty
and fifty, so that the rugby guys are constantly wanting
to use Cook Park because it's such a big venue. Yeah,
and it's it's an ancient game. We've been playing it
for for than than people have been playing rugby or

(53:12):
anything like that. And also a f L and Australia.
The uzzy rules is based on Gaelic football. The only
thing they changed was the shape of the ball, so
it looks as if it was Irish people came over
and they didn't have a round ball, so they just
had to use a rugby ball.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (53:31):
So, and they also play play a game where they
get Gaelic players over from Ireland and they play against
the against the Aussie.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Players right in terms of hurling though, is there any
other nations that you play against or is it all
just within Ireland?

Speaker 13 (53:48):
Well, they just like we have here in New Zealand.
We've got a g A, a Gaelic Athletic Association here
and so they play all the games like Harland Gaelic
football and camogie and games like that. So they cagy
is a bit more like like hockey, but they they
play all of the and then go over home and

(54:09):
and compete and in competitions. So one of our local
our bunch of our local guys went over to Melbourne
to play recently so from cars christ Church. They all
went over. So there's a bit of a played around you.
You'll find them if you if you google it, there's
probably people playing in most countries. I've been in America

(54:31):
as well, but the Irish diaspora over there. But yeah,
it's it's a good bit of fun. So you've always
enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Michael, you led to hit each other with the sticks?

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Oh that happens, so yes, but you're wearing helmets.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Can you can you just go up and wake someone
with a stick or.

Speaker 13 (54:56):
I know I've suffered once or twice from it. Yeah, anyway, did.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
You start it by Michael? Any?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Hey, thank you so much.

Speaker 13 (55:05):
No, God, no, but yeah, they there's plenty of injuries
from it. Yeah, yeah, I think if we braid it
a bit more, acc wouldn't be particularly happy.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Hey, thank you, Michael.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Michael, definitely going to che checkout.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Hurling sounds like a great time. Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will take
a few more of your calls very shortly. What is
the most exciting sport on the planet? Twenty five past two.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on news Talk.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
SAB twenty seven past two.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
So we started talking about Super Bowl and why it's
so popular, and then we just got a lot of
text saying it was boring.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I disagree, I love it.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
So we asked the question, what's the most exciting sport
in the world. Darts are very exciting to watch. Used
to play darts as well. Since this text that Matt
and Tyler yess Fortnite World Championships of.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
A couple of years ago Booger one.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
He was about sixteen years old and took away around
one million dollars.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Unbelievable, so good to watch. Yeah, a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Textings through saying that they follow E sports as Texas.
Here is why Why has nobody mentioned basketball? The kids
will play it at the school. It's so popular. The
game is fast scoring, it doesn't take forever. It's an
easy game to understand and watch. There's nothing more exciting
than athletic big dunks and three pointers. If you ever
get to a Breakers game, they turn it on with

(56:29):
a DJ and atmosphere and amaze the players don't want
to bounce the ball to the beat of the music.
Both the crowd is so family friendly. It seems like
a perfect one for people to celebrate. Yeah, basketball, and
in terms of sports, you can immediately understand. You get
it with basketball, you've got to bounce the ball, you
gotta put it in the hope. I've tried to explain
cricket to foreigners is it's.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
A long chat.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
It's a complicated sport.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
When you go the bowler's bold delivery which is also
referred to as a ball and at the wickets, but
it also bounce off, bounces off a wicket before you
even get into the field positions, and the change of.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Over the four and now.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Well the fours and the six of the easy part.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
But yeah, like cricket is a very difficult sport to
understand and I believe also explain to people that play
sports that are.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Closer to it.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
So rugby is quite hard to explain to someone that's
an NFL fan because it kind of similar. I mean,
NFL came out of American football, came out of rugby.
Some Harvard University students decided to improve rugby in their mind,
it's quite hard if they're close.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
So trying to explain cricket to a baseball fan is
very very complicated.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Yeah, yeah, great chat. A lot of teachs coming through
for the Isle of Man as well, which is a
pretty hear raising sport.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Absolutely hello, fast paced humans and animals, amazing control of
the horses.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Love a bit of polo.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Guys, you've got to be boring. Super Bowl is as
boring as watching paint dry. A lot of people have said.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
That, yeah, yeah, well okay, there we go.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
That must be why it's so popular.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Yep. And we're in halftime now, and again, how many
people are watching around the world? Man, about two hundred million.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I don't know how many people are watching around the world.
One hundred and twenty three million watched in America alone
last year, close to a billion worldwide.

Speaker 10 (58:08):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Unreal. And I think this is Kendrick Roulama we're listening
to right now. But anyway, good chat, Thank you very much. Andrew.
Coming up after the headlines with Raylene, we want to
talk about auctions. This is on the back of a
story on the Weekend where a gentleman called Matthew points
he thought that he had won an auction in Auckland.
His bid was one point three million, and they put

(58:31):
the gavel down, see going, going, gone, sold, and then
reopens the auction again. So this Matthew fella ended up
missing out on this particular home. It went to another
buyer for one point four million. But the question we
kind of want to put to you is is it
the worst way to buy a home?

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Auctions? Is it a good way to sell a home?
Is it a good way to buy a home? I
think it's probably a way to sell a home if
you're feeling pretty confident about things and you're trying to
get people to ramp each other up and get FOMO involved.
But anyone that has sat through an auction and tried
to buy a house, I mean I remember buying a
house an auction. You're not sure if you've won or lost.

(59:10):
You look around the room and go, well, all these
people rarely here to bid. Were they just neighbors having
a lock? Is that someone that was bidding against me
a friend of the person selling the house. There's a
sinking feeling after an auction that you may have acted
rashly or you may have been ripped off.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
I agree. It felt like a little bit like I
was on the Truman Show and all these sort of
actors were coming in to outbid me. It was a
horrible experience, but let's get into it and a little
bit later in the show we well, hopefully we're going
to have a check to an auction year. Oh e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two nine too is the text number. It is
twenty nine to three.

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Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Thank you very much, Ray Ray Lean. Now let's have
a chat about auctions. This is on the back of
the story and the Weekend an Auckland home buyer. He
has sent a legal letter to Bailey's Realty Group after
he thought he won a house auction, but the bidding
was later reopened and the property sold to someone else.
So this is Matthew points he had been locked in
a bidding war for the home at a December twelve

(01:01:29):
auction which he made a one point three million dollar bid.
After taking time to call around the room for higher bids,
the auctioneer banged his gavel announcing the home had been
sold to Matthew points. However, he then began talking with
others in the room before deciding to reopen the bidding
to a person willing to pay one point five million.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Well, yeah, so the auctioneer said, it's going gone selling.
It has sold now, congratulations, well bid, Well bought and
banged his hammer, but that wasn't enough for it to
be his. And Bailey's has said that it's within their
rules and the guidance and what you sign up when

(01:02:09):
you go to the auction that if there's contention that
someone tried to have a bid but didn't get it
in in time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
That they reopen the bidding.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Right, but it's going gone selling, it's sold now, congratulations,
well bid? What brought the person in the room couldn't
yell out during that sentence?

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
If you're speaking, is nodding with you?

Speaker 13 (01:02:35):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Was it a hand up at that point? If you're
going to bid, in this case one point four million dollars,
surely you're at the back screaming, hey, hey, overfinished.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yet it seems a bit sus to me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Certainly does.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
But you know I'm not hastling Bailey's or the auctioneer
on this. If those are the rules, but well, actually
I kind of am hassling them. Maybe the rules are lame.
I think that what's the point of banging the gavel
down and saying it's going gone, selling it now sold, congratulations,
well bid well bought, and then hang on a minute,

(01:03:08):
you know, a few minutes later, hanging on, there's a
guy at the back that was too lame to make
enough noise to buy it, and we're going to give
it to Tim. Yeah, just the shame of not being
able to You shouldn't be able to get the house
just because you're not very good at being in an auction.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Because at that point, what is the point of an
auction that, as you say, you had the three bangs
going going gaun sold, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I've run auctions, and I've been in auctions. I've never
run a property auction, but I've run charity auctions where
you're in front of a whole room. You go give
a five good, five good, five ove good, five five
hundred five undenyone to do more, five hundred and five
hundred ten and five fifth thing out for everything, and
then you point at the person and then you remember
the person that was bit before, and then you hassle
them to try and bring them up, and you know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
You did that really well. I've got to say that
takes you training, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
But you are so attuned to everyone's facial movements, everyone's
hands movements in the room, and if you're just doing
an auction, I'm not. I'm imagining. You know, I've done
auctions in front of five hundred people, five hundred people
at tables, and I've been able to spot even the
slightest movement to the person that's interested. Plus you can
gauge before you get there who's interested. So it's it
seems quite amazing to me that this person claims to

(01:04:12):
have tried to get in there but didn't didn't even
put their hand up, wave, yell, scream, there's sob a table,
there's things you could do, and that in the length
of that sentence.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
There's something a little bit suss about this situation. But
it leads me this particular story, and I looked at
that and it just reinforced my view that auctions are
the worst way to buy a house. Everything feels stacked
against you. Only ever went to one auction when we
were buying our first home and got all this advice
about what to do, you know, Tyler, dress in a
three piece suit and set up the front, and whatever

(01:04:44):
your budget is, you've got to go hard and go
pretty close to your maximum. I did all that looked
like Gordon Gecko rocking into this bliming auction. Go to
the front, you know, trying to make out like I
was the big I am. Had a bit that was
pretty close for my maximum, and then all of a
sudden boomed ten thousand above, twenty thousand above. I was
out within about thirty seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
What a Muppet show? You turned up? What in a
fancy suit? Yeah, to try and pretend you were flash.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
That was the advice I got, and I listened. This
was advice from you, you know, people who had bought
a few homes in their time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
What's the theory there that you'll scare people off because
they go, oh, this guy's got a lot of money.
He's going to keep bidding, so there's no point in
fighting with them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Yeah, that was the advice they say. You know, make
sure that you've got to look like you're going to
outbit everybody, even if it's wildly overpriced. You got to
look like you just you want this house. Out of
pride more than anything else, that you're just going to
outbit everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
I bought my last town house and shorts and jandles
I was. I was going for the other approach.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
That would have been a bitter strategy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
This loser doesn't look like he's got enough money to
buy this house, so if it flips, it flew under
the radar to the last minute.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Him pounced yeah, and spent way more than I should.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
But the worst part was the auctioneer keep I was
out within thirty seconds and blowing my our budget. But
he just kept looking at me throughout the whole process,
and I just wanted to trivel up and die. I
was in the front racer, sir, you started off fast?
What's wrong with it? Do you want to jump in now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
That's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
That's why I'm suspicious the situation here, because they know
who's bidding, and they can tell. An auctioneer, you can
tell by their eyes and the way they talk to
people who's there to actually bid and who's even in
the game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Most of you know the people there in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
So he knew at this auction yet that you were
at that you were in the game at least to
the point to make a bid, So he's going to
keep hassling you and hastling you and asking you. But yeah,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Are there any tricks
to an auction? Are they the worst way to buy
the house? And should we all just boycott them and
then just buy the ones with the price on them
or by negotiation? Yeah, we'd love to hear your thoughts

(01:06:42):
on auctions. And what do you think about this one?

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Yeah, something smells something a bit suss on this one.
Nineteen ninety two is the text number. Let's get into it.
It is nineteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Matteath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo
XC ninety tick every box, a seamless experience, awaits news talks,
there be good afternoons.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Seventeen to three. Are auctions the way to buy a house?
I say, absolutely they are. But it's on the back
of a story on the weekend where a gentleman he
was bidding for a house. He'd made his bid and
the auctioneers he going going gone sold, well, sold.

Speaker 9 (01:07:20):
To you, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Then there was a bit of murmuring in the audience
before they opened the bidding back up, and he got
out bid by someone.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
At the same time as the fall of the hammer,
one of the senior managers spotted another bid.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
The Bailey's person said.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Auctioneer Smith then correctly, according to them, declared it was
a disputed bid and restarted the auction at the last
undisputed bid of one point three five. Milt, I have
no doubt that the underbidder was disappointed, but the auctioneer
acted correctly and professionally. Bailey said, which, yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
It was a Bailey senior manager that spotted this other bid,
was it, That's what?

Speaker 20 (01:08:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Well, well, they said they could be an interesting circumstance
where you can imagine what would happen in those circumstances
of the guy who's bought it at one point three
oh five then walks over to the guy at one
point four and says, I'll sell it you now to
one point three eight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But then how would that person know that. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
It seems like once the on the sniff test, not
knowing much about it, and you know, I've been to
a few auctions run a few charity auctions, but not
knowing too much about the high stakes end of auctioneering,
it seems like once the gavel falls, logically, I would
expect what if you assigned before you go into the auction,
you would expect that that's the end of the auction.

(01:08:35):
That's how you imagine it goes. That's why you have
the That's why you have the going going gone. What's
the point of that if it's not going, going gone.
It's like going going gone. And there's someone else that
I didn't see.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Has more money? Has oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty love to hear from you on this get ape,
Ty got.

Speaker 10 (01:08:59):
Taken with a cleaner's dead. We're going to the front, right,
You were right on the back.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Yeah, right to the back.

Speaker 10 (01:09:06):
It's closest to the doors. They have to exit really quick.
So you see a managing the business well, and I
a little bit about it, but yeah, you don't do that.

Speaker 14 (01:09:15):
You just.

Speaker 10 (01:09:17):
He just waits the trade me roll. You wait for
the last three minutes before you jump on the on
the trade on trade me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (01:09:24):
It's the same thing with the actions that the real estate.
You just wait right at the last minute, you don't
bid at all. You just you just know what your price,
what you're gonna afford. When everybody's starting to slowly and
then you're jumping to skar the ship out on.

Speaker 21 (01:09:39):
Hopefully that you.

Speaker 10 (01:09:40):
Might you might get it, you might not, but you
need you wait right to the end.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
So you've gotta wait. Yeah, so you've got to wait,
pete until the auctioneer is saying go once, going twice,
pretty much, and then boom, and then you jump in there. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:09:56):
Yeah, so you wait right so the pretty much to
the end.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
You look it around.

Speaker 10 (01:09:59):
You say, you're looking at I said you go to
the back. You're looking around, who's who are these bidders
and say he's one. That's for some people they just
go for what they just want. They want it right
or wrong. You're gon must out anyway, but just watch
them anyway. And when it slows down, there's only might
be two bitters left in there, and they're not in
that room. And then you're swinny, only two of them
where it's getting very close and he's going to hand
put the ham and then you jump in and see

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here you know on me you might miss out or
at least to scare them the sheep.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
So so you know your price.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
So if if it's gone past your price, then you're
out anyway, is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Peak. But then that's what But then, but then.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
The last money you jump, you jump it by one
hundred grand, scare everyone off, hit your price, and then
you know, just put your sunglasses on and pay up
and leave and you've you've killed it.

Speaker 10 (01:10:47):
Oh not even one hundred grand. You just go slightly
above what it is. And just then you just challenge
that last that or what you say you can do
that might know how much money you've got to do.
They wouldn't do that. But just wait, wait, wait pretty
much at the end of the larger the two bitters
that a bidding on it, that to be biter. Sometimes
the options they don't even besave when bidding it anyways,
it doesn't even sould. But just wait, you just suss

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out the sussi out, what's who's in the room, and
then just wait for the last minute and then chucking
a bid and then you know your price they gave it.
You're not gonna lose his sleep over it.

Speaker 21 (01:11:15):
Then just walk away.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Do you wait for a pete to get down to
let's say five hundred dollars increments, right, and so you
let it get down to the five hundred, and then
while it gets there, you just boon another five k.
Is that a good way to skip people off?

Speaker 10 (01:11:28):
Yeah, you're gonna do that way too long. You know
your money. And then you say, well you pretty much
know the people. Anybody's gonna really keen on it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:35):
You just just they do.

Speaker 10 (01:11:36):
They've got whatever price you had decided you pay for,
maybe put five thousand, and the next is pretty your
scared them a little bit. I just putting five pound
you you might be maxing them out anyway what they
could afford. You soon find out they're going to big
it out. But anyway, then just pay. They played the
game basically, they're putting that hammer down. Basically, I reckon

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that guy should have won that.

Speaker 21 (01:11:57):
I don't like.

Speaker 10 (01:11:57):
I reckon what they've done here is that's not that's
not honest. It's always on the hammer goes down, it's yours.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, just just just just in
your own and the way that we understand options. The
said a senior manager saw this and the rules, it's
the way you're supposed to do it. But that's not
how we understand auctions across the history of the world.
Is that when when the gavel hits the ground, that's
that's it's over going going on. Thank you so much
for your call, Pete. That's an interesting thing. He's talking

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about the numbers going up. But you know, in life,
I will often go out for dinner and I'll go, boy,
that steak's expensive at forty five dollars, right, yeah, can go.
I don't know if I'll have the steak. It's forty
five dollars whatever. That glass of wine is quite quite
a lot. But then you're in an auction and someone says,
come on, another five thousand dollars, and because your mind
has just been smashed to pieces by what's going on

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in the room and the amount of money that's being spent,
you're like, oh, five thousand dollars doesn't seem like a
lot more. I might as well go for it rather
than missing out.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
I've gone this far, I've gone hundreds of thousands of dollars.
An extra five hundred bucks, yeah I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Could do that, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Which is which is the crazy mindset that goes into
it to an auction and why they work so well
for getting highest price because you just you're all sense
of perspective goes out the window. You know, normally, when
you spend five thousand dollars on something, it's a major purchase,
and you think about it really for a really long time,
when you're a octure going oh god, damn, I got
another five thousand and another five years, keep it going,

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and here's ten thousand nothing, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
So what would work for you? You'd really love a
buy now on the house, is what you're saying. Just
give us a buy now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Yeah, it's an interesting concept. I'm not sure why whether
that would be better for house prices. I'm sure people
want to get the best price they can for their house.
But you know, if you go to a dairy and
it says a dollar and a can of baked beans,
then you pay a dollar. It'd be a very interesting
dairy if you went in there and you and there
was an auction every time I'm haggling. You know, you
know you've been overseas and you start haggling for things

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that that's pretty that's a pretty crazy situation to be in.
But if you want to say, there's an argument potentially
if you want to sell a house, you think it's
with two million dollars, then put two million dollars on
it and see let the market find out.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Or near offer. I like that, Oh, one hundred eighty
ten eight How do we feel about auctions? Are they
the worst way to buy a property? And if you
have sold via auction, did it work well for you?

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Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Good afternoon, seven to three. We're talking about auctions when
it comes to buying a property on the mack of
a story where a gentleman made what he thought was
the winning bird. Certainly the auctioneer put his gavel down
three times and said sold. Then they reopened and he
was outbid by another bidder. But love to hear of
your auction experiences as well. Good afternoon, Margat.

Speaker 14 (01:14:52):
Hello.

Speaker 20 (01:14:53):
Yes, I think you know a written a verbit agreement
is just as bining finding as a written agreement. So
as far as I'm concerned, if I was the decision maker.
I would have had Baileys up for one hundred create
difference between selling between the you know, the one point
three one point four and given it to the first
buy it, so, especially if there were witnesses it was sold. Again,

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a verbal agreement is just as binding as a written one.
So yes, I would have had Bailey's up ball for
hundred things. And anyway, that's my uncle opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Yeah, well that what they're saying is that it is
you know, when you sign on to the option, that
that you agree that that there is such a thing
as disputed bids, and that that that the Bailey says
they are rare, but it's very clear before the auction
started that what would happen should there be a disputed bid?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
So they have an out on it.

Speaker 20 (01:15:45):
What's the questions? What is the laws say about that?
I'm sure that Baileys have the terms and conditions, but
what does the law say about that?

Speaker 21 (01:15:52):
So they know it's really what does the law say?

Speaker 20 (01:15:58):
Bailey's can't just make up, you know, have this this
difference between the it's unethical and bad business.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
But I guess if you agree to those terms when
you go in, then you're kind of beholden to them.
But I think morally, for me, it seems that the
way we see an auction is when someone says going, going, going, gone,
it has gone and ensure the disputed bird thing. Sure,

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the disputed thing seems like a way to get out
of it, just so they make sure that they get
the most money for this seller.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I get that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 20 (01:16:35):
They have to be fear to both bodies, and I
would say it's completely unethical because you know, they are
the agent. They are the person in the middle, and
that's why they are supposed to you to do the
right thing, if I can put it to you that way.

Speaker 13 (01:16:48):
So, so it's not about the buyer or.

Speaker 20 (01:16:50):
The sealer day in essence, agents for both, So for
the buyer and the seller.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:16:56):
So I would never use Baily because of something like that.
But guys, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
I love you afternoon, Marga, Thank you col So.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
In this situation, he told the gather, the ouctioneer said, no,
like birds in the auction room, it sells here at
one point three five if there's no bidder, I imagine,
looks around the room.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
It's going gone selling, It's sold.

Speaker 12 (01:17:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Congratulations, well, well bought so what was this muppet doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
Somewhere at the bank. Excuse me, excuse me, Well it was.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
It was spotted that he was.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Anyway, oh eight eighty ten, eight years and number to four.
We're going to carry this on after three o'clock, and
particularly want to hear about your auction experiences. I went
to one and that was the last time I'm ever
going to go, I think, to an auction to buy
a home. I thought it was the most craziest experience
in terms of everything was against me. But as Pete mentioned,

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apparently I was a muppet. My strategy was completely wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Yeah, and also you got to understand, Tyler, that the
idea is that the seller gets the most out of you.
It's not to make it a pleasant experience for you.
The auction is to get the most possible money for
the seller.

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Was I too naive? Clearly? So eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to goal. Nine to nine two
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They were heavily favored the Kansas City Chiefs, but they're
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on the road to victory. You don't fly on a
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of victory lyrics.

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Aside, it's very patriotic in terms of our sports chart.
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Speaker 10 (01:19:44):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
We're going to keep you updated on the super Bowl
as the afternoon continues, but we are talking about auctions.
This is on the back of an Auckland home by
he has sent a legal letter to a realty group
after he thought he won a home in auction, but
the bidding was later reopened and the property sold to
someone else. So we've managed to find a bit of
this particular auction.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
A lot of them are videos, yep, so we've got
the exact audio of the situation before we play. It
was when I was reading this action is words out,
I was putting a lot of space in there, which
made it seem strange to me that the person that
was coming through didn't get a chance to put their
hand up. But I think this auctioneer has gone way
faster at the end than I've ever heard an auctioneer

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finish up an auction.

Speaker 23 (01:20:28):
Listen to this, anyone else here? No late birds in
the oct room. It sells here at one three h five.
If there is no better is going on selling it
is old now, congratulations well bed Well bought.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
So it seems to me that there is still time
for someone to get in there. But that is really
really rushing to the end of the auction. But the
question is once the gavel goes down, I know that
there's rules before you go in and stuff. But it
feels I think to me that once the gavel goes down,
that's the end of the auction.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Otherwise, why do we have it?

Speaker 21 (01:20:59):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
But there was no going going on, was there? I
would assume maybe there was going once, going twice and
then he did the fire bang. But as you say,
that was very quick to say, no other bid is bang?
Well bought.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Well, we've got Rosie on the line who's run a
lot of options and she's also trained auctioneers. Welcome to
show Rosie. How are you today?

Speaker 24 (01:21:21):
Thank you boys?

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
How are you very good?

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Rosie?

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
When you go to an auction, you have to register
in advance, right, what is usually agreed to around disputed bids.

Speaker 24 (01:21:33):
Well, you have to read out the terms of the auction,
and one of those terms, if there is a dispute
arise in, the auctioneer does have the right to determine
that dispute or reopen the option at that disputing bid.
So that is read out very clearly as part of
the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
But if you're teaching an auctioneer, though, do you teach
that when the gabble is down, it's down and the
thing is over. Because even though there's that rule there.
It's going to cause a lot of controversy if you
bang the gabble award the house or say that the
house has gone to someone and then as far as
the concern, take it away. So as in terms of

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auctioneer technique, surely you want to do everything you can
to make sure that when that gavel goes down, that
is final.

Speaker 19 (01:22:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 24 (01:22:20):
Personally, I actually use a flower style because that is
me and a lot of octioneers they do what they
would probably do the same, They would draw it out
a bit more and say are you sure?

Speaker 21 (01:22:33):
Are you done?

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Over here?

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
Over there?

Speaker 24 (01:22:35):
This case, I've gathered the bidder who came in at
the end haven't actually been part of the option, so
the ouctioneer may have been a bit surprised and probably
not accepting it. So always I think it's better to
draw it out of it. Are you sure anyone else biting?
Are we absolutely certain? That's how I would have thought

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it would be done. This case is fairly quick, as
you said.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Yeah, I have never seen anything like it. I've been
to a lot of options in my time. I've even
run charity auctions which are for much less money, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Will draw aw that thing out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I will scam the room looking for any kind of reaction,
and definitely people that you know have been interested, you
will drill them, won't you, Rosie.

Speaker 24 (01:23:21):
Absolutely, And you want to make sure because you are
working for the bend door. They are they the ones
who pay you. Obviously you want to make sure it's
there for the buyers as well. But you must make
sure you do the best by the bendor. And that's
where we come to the point where the auctionnaire did
reopen the bidding.

Speaker 11 (01:23:39):
Had they not, it.

Speaker 24 (01:23:40):
Could have been very awkward and the vendor would have
missed out on that extra money. So if he had
no choice really but to reopen the bidding, Rosie, I'm
sorry I wasn't there, but I would have referred to
the vendor and said, what do you want me to do?

Speaker 13 (01:23:58):
Just to make sure everybody was happy?

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
I say, yeah, Do you have to, Rosie, give the
three opportunities or is that just a bit of theatrics,
you know, going once going to anybody else?

Speaker 24 (01:24:11):
Actually that's a good question. I believe you do. So
I always do the once try some certain final times
because I think it makes it very clear that you
are giving everyone every opportunity. So, and I think it
depends on a style, so some auctioneers are quicker than others.
But the third and final time, I say, makes it

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extremely clear.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
So few people in the world are more attuned to
the movements and intentions of people in the room than
an auctioneer. Is it believable to you that the auctioneer
didn't see a person that was interested? Can you imagine
a situation where someone's moving, because any kind of hand
movement or all would attract your eye, wouldn't it. You're
not looking at a thousand people, You're looking at the

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people in the room.

Speaker 24 (01:25:00):
No, the only difference wasn't in room options there could
be a better crowd. And if this person was at
the back, which it sounds like they were, and as
they hadn't already bid, the optionyer may not have hacked
that person on their radar. If people are bidding, of
course you see them, you can you do go back
to them and say are you in?

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
Are you in?

Speaker 24 (01:25:21):
What's happening over here?

Speaker 25 (01:25:22):
Would you like to come back in?

Speaker 24 (01:25:24):
But the fact that I think they came and after
it was probably a bit disconcerting, and one has to
wonder why they did that of course, so the buy
who thought they had it would have been once obviously
taken aback. But it's happened, and the people who were
around us person that that obviously realized what was going

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on and brought the option's attention to that situation. They
did the right thing, but it looks it doesn't look
as though it was as good as it could have been. Unfortunately,
it's just the way it happens. They had no choice
but to do what they did.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
So it sounds like a bit of a one on
a thousand things. And anything that you do, there's going
to be anomalies that you couldn't expect, and you know whatever,
someone not having a great day doesn't see something. But
in your experience, i mean, like in your opinion, is
when the gabble goes down, that's the moment the person
that has won the auction celebrates or that is yes.

Speaker 24 (01:26:25):
Yes, you're right, it's what you would accept. But there
are times that they can happen simultaneously, which is obviously
what happened in this case. As the general was going down,
somebody else is saying that and it's been missed. It's
very rare, Honestly, guys, it would be so rare, but

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now the market is picking up of this, so there
is more action. That's something we probably have to be
aware of as option is we have to make sure
we have covered everybody in the room.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Very interesting and Rosie this situation aside, What would be
your top tips for someone that is wanting to buy
a home via auction they haven't been in an auction
room before? What would be your top three tips for
getting the beast out of the situation.

Speaker 19 (01:27:13):
For a buyer?

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
You mean, yeah, make.

Speaker 24 (01:27:16):
Sure they have a bit of a chat to the
auctioneer prior. I mean they usually deal with an agent
rather than the octionaire, but I think it's really important
when I go along to an option, I would like
to chat with the buyer to make sure that if
they've got any questions, they understand the process and make
sure they feel comfortable and just make sure they have
lots of information that feel very comfortable with the process

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because it's very transparent, it's easy to buy at options
if you understand this. Sometimes it's good to have a
meeting a few days prior with your agent and introduce
the octioneer if that's possible. So there's lots of things
you can do to the feel comfortable. An option I
did on on the weekends. I introduced myself to the
buyers and we had a good chat prior. So if

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you can do these things, it depends how many options
in rooms. Options are way busier sometimes and it's not
so much time for preparation. But I think we all
have to try hard to make a bit of time
to get the buyers to feel really comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Rosie, what do you think about Tyler's plan of dressing
up like a billionaire and putting on a suit he's
never worn before.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
And standing at the front trying to intimidate people.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
I look the part, Rosy. I'm just saying that right now.

Speaker 24 (01:28:28):
Do you mean you're going to be the auctioneer title
or are you.

Speaker 26 (01:28:30):
Going to no?

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
So this was genuinely in my experience when I was
by my first home, Rosie, So tell me where I
went wrong here. This was advice, and clearly it was
bad advice. But I turned up to the auction I
didn't speak to the auction here. So one I'm already
offside there. But I got told to wear a very
nice suit, be right up the front, and when the
auction started be pretty close to our budget, so straight

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off the bat, go as high as I was willing
to go. And clearly that didn't work for me. So
what did I do wrong?

Speaker 24 (01:29:01):
Things on the market Tyler when bosses, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
This would have been tweeny twenty, So just.

Speaker 24 (01:29:09):
A code, I suppose in terms of just sort of
starting to move.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
Along yep, just before the tres lockdown.

Speaker 25 (01:29:15):
Actually, oh right, okay, interesting.

Speaker 24 (01:29:19):
Look, it entirely depends on the interest at the time,
and sometimes buyers do tend to open the budding at
maybe their top because they think they might eliminate some
people who were there looking for a bargain. And sometimes
it works. Sometimes if you do open as a really
high level, a lot of the other buyers look back
and I'm not going to pay that, and it can work.

(01:29:41):
It depends on the market. Yeah, well, right now we're
entering the busy markets, so people have to be a
bit more prepared and go along ready to you know,
with their sort of buggage of mind, with a little
bit of fighting money.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
What about the part where you dressed up like a
muppet and an ill fitting suit to try and intimidate people,
as well as what you wear matter.

Speaker 15 (01:30:02):
It is enough.

Speaker 24 (01:30:03):
Really, does he normally dress like a muppet?

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Well, he went just as like a muffet, but an
informal muppet. So normally is a casual muppet.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
But in this case it was it was off the rack.
It was Helenstein. So there's probably where I went wrong.

Speaker 24 (01:30:20):
Thanks, it matters what you're wear.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Okay, Hey, thank you so much for your insights, Rosie,
appreciate it.

Speaker 24 (01:30:25):
Nice to check guys.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Likewise, I was the chief fantastic. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty If you've recently purchased via auction, love to
hear from you, or if you think it is just
a massive have or a difficult way to buy a home,
love to hear from you as well. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two is a text number.
It's nineteen past three. News Talks there, b Patrick. Good

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afternoon to you.

Speaker 15 (01:30:50):
Yeah, great guys there, you going very good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Your thoughts on options, Oh.

Speaker 26 (01:30:55):
Look, I think entertainment been too many options over the years.
With my wife, we've been really excited about buying X
y Z property only to find it a bit like
what you guys said at the outbreak at that at
the outset that you know, you enter there before guns blazing,
and you're kind of skilled very early on. And that's

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happened a few times. But the last option which I
was successful at, where we ended up buying something and
I was out of town, out of coverage for a
lot of it, I'm on the phone, putting on the.

Speaker 21 (01:31:28):
Phone, and that was that was another level of.

Speaker 19 (01:31:33):
Drama and excitement. At another level of drama and excitement.
But generally, I reckon auctions are are good. Really, I mean,
it's supplying to buner. Really, if you really want it,
then you got to throw money at it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Do you think an auction well, I mean the reason
why you run an auction though as a seller is
because you're confident you can get more than if you
just put a.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Tecker on it. You think that people get excited.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
So if you're going along to an auction, then I
mean it's a desirable house, but you're probably going to
pay more than a negotiation, do you think Patrick.

Speaker 19 (01:32:05):
Well, I think he possibly. But if I think about
this last situation when I was down country and at
arm's length from the auction room and the people bidding
in front of the you know, the auctioneer. I was
just in fact, I was potentially more motivated to want
to buy it because you know, it was there. There

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was the phomo fear of missing out. It wasn't in
the room.

Speaker 15 (01:32:30):
There was that element.

Speaker 19 (01:32:31):
So I just think it comes down to the circumstances,
because in that particular instance, there wasn't There was bit
slim pickings in the market at the time, and so
we were kind of determined to just get something, and
this was the best of the lot, and I probably
paid a dollar more than I should have.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
But you know, so be it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
You've just gone from the worst phone line to the
best phone line we've ever had.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
On the shows, You're coming through clear so clear, all
of a sudden, Patrick, But I found similar to you.
I found, well, sort of in a different situation, the
last house I bought a auction.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
I've been looking through.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
The house and you're standing in the yard, and you've
already pitched yourself in the house and your mind that
is your house. You've aught about everything you're going to
do with it. You've imagined the kids running around the backyard.
You're standing in there, and and then it starts to
feel like someone's trying to take that house away from you.
And then you start going up in five thousands, and
you start getting competitive, and then you're like, who's this

(01:33:22):
guy trying to take my house away from me? And
then before you know it, you're signing the papers with
a shaking hand, going, oh my god, what have I
done in the heat of the moment. And I guess, Patrick,
that's the idea, isn't it. The idea of an option
is to get you in that mode.

Speaker 15 (01:33:37):
Absolutely, you know, And I'm used to, like everyone used
to trade me options where okay, you're not spending hundreds
of thousands of bucks. You know, you're not subject to
a buy now or best bit or highest bit or whatever.
But perhaps it's smacking or telling of the fact that
all the trade in the auctions that me and everyone
else has been through over many years, you kind of

(01:33:58):
just become, well, I kind of become a bit accustomed
to the fact that it's an option, best best price wins.
But the interesting element here was the fact that I
was removed from the from the from the bidding room.
And I don't know whether that was better or worse, you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Know, I don't know if this is a thing or not, Patrick,
But do you know if there are people that perfect
professional not auctioneers, but professional people that go along to
an auction for you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
So you send someone along.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
That's really good at auctions, you give them the information,
they know how to work at room, and they do
the job for you. To take that sort of emotion
out of it, that does that person exist? Someone will
know nine ten nine two over one hundred and eighteen eighty,
because that'd be quite a good good person to get,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:34:44):
Yeah, I reckon, although you know, and I suppose you'd
have to instruct them that, you know, fifty dollars is
your maximum bet and if you go to fifty one,
then you know you're not paying it.

Speaker 15 (01:34:54):
You know we're not going to buy it. But therein
lies the rub, right you kind of you her. When
we bought this last place when I was out of town,
my MAX was about fifty grand. Well, we'd agreed that
my max or ol max is fifty grand less than
what I ended up buying it from a buget. You know,
we're not talking gazillions of dollars here. But it was
again that fear of missing out kind of thing, and

(01:35:16):
the market, the market, there were people crying because they
missed out, and I'm thinking for it. You know, this
is this is not cool, but it was just a
sign of the times.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Yeah, they'll be terrible for that surrogate auctioneering and said,
good news as you've got the house. Bad news as
I've got into a bidding war. I think I might
have paid five hundred thousand dollars more than it's worth. Hey,
thank you so much to be called Patrick.

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Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Thanks very much, Raylan. We're having a great discussion about auctions.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Yeah, and I was saking before.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Can you send along someone to the auction for you
to deal with the auction if you're not up to it,
and you know a lot of techs are coming through
saying yeah, you can engage a buyer's agent to get
that done.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
Very good. Right, We're going to get to more of
your phone calls very shortly. But right now we are
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Very good? So let's start with why this is an
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Yeah.

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But it's not.

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Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
Thank you very much, Julie. We'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
All right, going back to auctions on the back of
the story on the weekend about a bidder house buyer
who made a bid for one point three million the
auctioneers here, going, going, gone, and then they opened up
the bidding again and he lost out to somebody else.
But we're getting a heck of a lot of texts
coming through for those who have bought at auction who

(01:40:41):
have sold at auction mixed feelings about whether auctions is
a good way to go. Don How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 14 (01:40:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:40:47):
Great, thank you. Look I'm I'm a retired real estate agent.
I've been out of it for five years now. I
sold mostly by option, and i'd recommend you if you
are selling by option. First of all, find an agent
that has sold a lot of properties by auction and
has a good success, because selling by option is quite

(01:41:11):
different to selling by price or any other way, so
there's different skills needed. Secondly, I sold most of my
options on site. I wouldn't recommend that for every property.
If it's a city apartment or down the steep driveway
AND's no parking around that sort of thing, I would

(01:41:33):
sell in rooms. But very good reasons for selling on site.
The main one is that everybody that's at that option
is there for your property, even if it's just a spectator,
even if there's some thosey neighbor you're there for your property.
The auctioneer can go around and meet everyone that's there
as and if they intend to bid, get to know them,

(01:41:55):
and when the option's going slow, you can actually call
that person by name and say, h John, you indicated
that you're keen on this property. I know your wife
wants us how about a bit and that puts them
on the spot, and that's worth go I totally recommend
it for that reason.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Interesting Another reason is that in.

Speaker 21 (01:42:15):
An in the room's option, there's a potentially a lot
of properties up for auction. If your property is number fifteen,
it probably indicates that the company concerned doesn't think yours
has got a very good chance of selling. They'll put
the prime ones up first. At least that's been my experience.

(01:42:37):
Others might disagree. So if the earlier ones don't go well,
don't go off like a cracker. It kind of sounds
the whole process. You really want the properties that precede
you to sell if possible, or at least gets furs
and bedding. So the other thing is that as the

(01:43:00):
auction progresses, or as the options progress, more and more
people leave the room, and by the time you're comes
up for auction, there might be only half the people there,
and the auctioneer hasn't met for bidders, he doesn't know
or she doesn't know which of them is likely to bid.
And that's at a disadvantage, So definitely on site if.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
You can don when someone puts their house up for
auction or the agent suggests that, is that a position
of power that you're basically saying that this house.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Who knows what it's worth, it could be worth more
than we think we think.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
It's a very direct, desirable situation as opposed to putting
a price on it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Is that basically saying you're ready to sell, you want
to move it.

Speaker 21 (01:43:47):
Look, especially on this market because from what I've been
reading and for the information I've got, properties are selling
in Auckland anyway at twenty and even up to thirty
percent under council valuation. So you really don't know. Even
an experienced salesperson, I won't really know what a property's

(01:44:12):
going to sell at. You certainly don't want to discourage
any better than this market. If I'm selling a property
that or if I was selling a property that might
get two point three and a buyer comes along and says, look,
I've got one point dight do you think I should
be at the option? Do you think I should be

(01:44:33):
a better I would definitely say yes, firstly because I'm
working for the seller and I don't want to discourage anyone.
I know it makes it hard on the buyer and
I'm not working for them. Secondly, you really don't know
for sure what the circumstances of your seller are. They

(01:44:56):
might be in a much dire situation than you might think.
For instance, one property is thinking of there was a
large number of Bene fisheries and if each one might
be ten beneficiaries, if each one was only going to
drop ten round, it's not going to be a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Yeah, well, it's great to chat to you. Don You've
been very honest so as an agent, and I know
it depends on where the market is at, but would
you see a lot more benefit in an auction for
a seller rather than a deadline sale. I just say
that is because I've bought by deadline and I can
see some some fish hooks in that process for a

(01:45:36):
buyer as well as in it's it's non transparent. You
don't know what the other bids are, whereas at least
auction is transparent.

Speaker 21 (01:45:44):
Look, a deadline sale is actually are some that's what
six years getting older did a deadline. So you really
don't have any idea. There's no transparency, as you.

Speaker 15 (01:46:06):
Said, so.

Speaker 21 (01:46:09):
You maybe would be prepared to pay more for that
property than when you actually than actually happens. Yeah, I
mean it's possible that you might miss out by ten
thousand dollars. You might miss out for reasons that you
don't really understand. You might miss out because another buyer

(01:46:32):
might be a cleaner buyer. They don't have any property
to sell, they don't have a mortgage qualification to go through.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
So don you're in a unique position to answer these
questions because you're out of the game, but you've had
a lot of experience in the game. So when a
real estate agent is selling the house, and I think
a lot of people have be in this position where
they talk to the real estate agent and they ask
what they think the house is going to go for,
and you go along to the auction and you realize
when you get there that that you were never in
the ballpark. Is the real estate agent trying to pack

(01:47:03):
that room? So the buyer feels like they've found the
market price for the house us or are you trying
to pack the room? So this person that said that
they've got a million and then the house goes for
one point five might just go crazy and jump in
because in the heat of the moment.

Speaker 21 (01:47:22):
Look, I feel VANSI bias who miss out, and you've
maybe encouraged to be there. But as I said, you
don't really know in the end how much that vendor
is going to drop the reserve by, so that person
might have a chance. It might be remote that they've
got a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
And you are working with the vandor yeah, but are
there situations where the real estate agent will say a
price that they know is way lower than the house
is going to go for just to get this poor
sod along full of hope with no chance of succeeding,
or with little chance of succeeding.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Sorry, little chance of succeeding.

Speaker 21 (01:48:01):
Sorry, you go, Don, You've had on a very important point.
The agent should never quite a price, never ever, ever.
I would never do that. Maybe when I was first
up in an experienced years, but never never quite a price.

Speaker 4 (01:48:17):
Interesting, thank you very much, Don. Well, as I mentioned
to you, when when we purchased our first time, we'll
tried to go to this auction and the real estate
agent that we were dealing with, she was quite young,
but she said when I mentioned the price and said
here's our budget, said, oh you surely get it for that.
That's a good price. Surely you get it for that.
And of course we didn't wear her out by a

(01:48:38):
couple hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
And you think and I think that was you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
Yeah, absolutely, she was trying to pack the room. Yeah,
that was deceitful.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
But you'll remember her and you'd never use her again,
would you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
That's why she must get people that would go back
to her and say, hey, that was pretty that was
pretty naughty of you. That was pretty deceitful. Were you
just trying to pack the room? You know, just as
a work life balance for an agent. If you're operating
like that, I don't think I can imagine your career
would become pretty rocky.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
It's a dangerous strategy, isn't it right. We'll take another
couple of calls, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
but we've got a full board at the moment. It
is accorded to.

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Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
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Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
Say'd be thirteen to four. We're talking about auctions. Are
they the poorest way to buy a home if you
are the buyer? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Sex This is how much a vent is missing out
on with an auction. Buyers are leaving tens of thousand
dollars in their pocket with the auction process. Tender and
deadlines are outperforming auction in the Wellington market by considerablemount
according to this text. So but you know, we know
how the Wellington market's going. Yeah, so, I mean you
might it's probably probably not the time to be running
an auction in Wellington.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Order, yeah, absolutely, but just on the deadline sale. That's
how we purchased our home. And look, now, clearly we
didn't overpay considering the value of the home at the moment,
but at the time, I've got to say with the
deadline sale, because it was so in the shadows and
so untransparent. Is there word untransparent? But I actually I

(01:50:21):
thought we'd overpaid and we probably did compare because we
won the deadline. Clearly we did overpay. So there's these
problems with the deadline sale as well.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
Yeah, well, I was buying an apartment recently and you
know you've made your offer and then the agent goes, well,
there's another person that wants to pay this, So if
you pay this right now, you've you've got it, and
you don't you know, and you're here, You're going, are
you telling the other person this?

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
If you do this, you do this, and you you know,
there's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
You know, there's regulations and stuff and there's things they
can do, but there's definitely gray areas they work in.
So I mean, you never quite know, you know, when
you're in an auction, you never there's a creeping feeling
that you've paid too much or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
In the end, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
In the house I bought, my brother in law at
the time was in my year, just going it's too much,
it's too much to pull out that ridiculous amount.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
But he was standing by me.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
I had him there as a sort of support animal.
He's going to pull out, pull out. And this was
like ten years ago, buying house in Mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
And yeah, I was so like, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Listen to yea Julian, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:51:24):
Yeah? Led again?

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Good?

Speaker 25 (01:51:26):
Yeah, look, I've been listening all afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Just thank you for that.

Speaker 6 (01:51:29):
I think the I think that I think the.

Speaker 25 (01:51:32):
Bar did exactly what Rosie suggested. Had a bit of
a quick word to the auctioneer beforehand and said, look,
if I managed to get that place, there might be
a bit of a bonus in it for you.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
You're talking about the story in the Hero, was it
so this Matthew points, so as now taking legal action,
it appears I don't know, I didn't read that in
the story.

Speaker 25 (01:51:55):
So I mean again, I mean usually with those auctions
there's a couple of spotters there as well, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
You're suspicious of that, aren't you when you're there, always
think about it. But in this case, the person that
pay in the end, he paid one hundred thousand or
fifty thousand more than the guy who won the auction
was willing to pay, because I think they went back
to him and said can you can you beat can
you beat that price now? And he said no, Well,
the price I thought I won the auction was my

(01:52:23):
top price, so it'd be a difficult scam to run.
But yeah, I mean, you are always you're so right, Julian.
You're at an auction, you're aways looking around all these
people here. Legit is this just a friend of the
people that own the house that are running up this auction.
You just your conspiracy theories go off the chart when you.

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
And I get the advice. I always speak to the auctioneer.
You want to be somewhat familiar, but you don't want
to give them too much information because I imagine if
you're a good auctioneer, like pleasure to meet you, what
sort of budget are you working with? You know, what
are you looking at? What you know, how high you're
willing to go here? Which would be terrible information to
give that auctionneire.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Yeah, but I guess you want to talk to them. Yeah, sorry,
you go, Jullian, you know that's a that's a.

Speaker 15 (01:53:07):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Thanks you if you think, let's appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
But I think what Rosie was really saying is you
get to know the auctioneer so they're never going to
miss your bit. They're aware that you're there and you're
in the game. Good point, and that you're part of
this whole thing because there are a lot of tie kickers,
these neighbors in the room. There's just people that there's
probably weirdos that just go to auctions for the thrill
of it. It's actually pretty good reality TV watching an.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
Auction can be good entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
You look at families, they come in, you go, they
got it? There they go, they got who got it?
You know, it's actually it's actually probably a reasonable spectator sport.

Speaker 5 (01:53:39):
Ye, so.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Higher than zero. Number of people in the world probably
go to auctions just for fun.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
That's why they love stream it now.

Speaker 11 (01:53:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:46):
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Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
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Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
EDB five to four. Ryan, you're our last on this
and you're a real estate agent, which is perfect.

Speaker 18 (01:54:12):
Hi there, Yes, I'm happy to just spew what I
know if you'd like.

Speaker 19 (01:54:16):
To hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Yeah, we've got sixty or seventy seconds of you spewing.
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
Well.

Speaker 18 (01:54:21):
For buyers, they need to figure out the circumstances as
to why that vendor is selling, because that gives you
some leverage in the auction room. You also need to
figure out the style of the auctioneer. You need to
figure out the style of the company that they are
auctioneering for. Do they have vendor bidding, which is basically
like having a friend in the room pushing the price up.
What's going to happen if it passes in? For example,

(01:54:44):
the company I work for will allow the agents if
the vendor allows us to show the reserve to the
top bidder. After the property passes in, we can walk
up and say, here's the reserve, and they might be
ten thousand or one hundred thousand away, but you have
the opportunity right now to buy the property at the reserve.

Speaker 15 (01:54:59):
Would you like to take that?

Speaker 18 (01:55:00):
And they are the only person with that opportunity. No
one else in the room gets that, but they only
get it for ten or twenty seconds. So you need
to understand how the company work.

Speaker 4 (01:55:10):
Just quickly, right, and I know we're running out of time,
But the vendor bidding, that seems a bit deceitful. Do
you know when you're in there that there may be
some gender bidding going on?

Speaker 18 (01:55:20):
Okay, right, Well, this is where if you're a telephone bidter,
it becomes hard. If there's vendor bidding, it's hard to
distinguish between a real bit and a vendor bit, especially.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
If you're on the phone.

Speaker 18 (01:55:29):
Yeah, So a vendor bird must be placed very clearly
on behalf of the owner by the auctionere So if
you're in the room, you will know and you will
hear that, but it can be lost in translation via
a phone bitter.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
Yeah, very good, Ryan, Sorry, we're out of time, but
some good advice there. Get to know the real estate
agent and now they operate in the auction bid and
you're a happy man at the moment.

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Full Show Podcast: 10 February 2025

On Purpose with Jay Shetty