Full Show Podcast: 10 June 2025

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Hello you great new Zellers, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, forty two four Tuesday,
the tenth of June twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
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It's a great law.

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It's like Godwin's law when people immediately jump to bringing
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Going to catch on. Yeah, and wait till you hear
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Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show on
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Speaker 3 (02:12):
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don't know what you're talking about, mat Ai, I said,
I don't know what the hell you're you're singing there,
but nine two nine two yeah, real.

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funk baselines, but the way it sits in the pocket,
it's just so beautiful. Here we go. Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Sixy such a beautiful baseline.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh yeah, that is very funky.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
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by flying the family Stone and so rip to sly
Stone who passed away at eighty one.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I believe now I've heard it. You actually did a
pretty good job at ed trying to sing it. So
well done.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
New Zealand band Dimmer released a song with the baseline
that was a tribute to this call get What You Give,
which is also a great song.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, well that is good to put to bed because
that was doing your hidden Listen.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
To this text. Shut up, Matt, don't want to hear
your singing. Shut up, you mup at your tone death.
I hate you stop singing. That's not very nice. After
I've complimented the nine two nine two people come through
there and I'd say to those texts, or if I'm
so tone deaf, how come so many people could work
it out from my baseline exactly?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
But that's what happens on the text machine. You give
them a compliment, then they'll come back and just give
you a we we serve, just a wee bite on
the hand.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh you poor person, that ends in eight six. You
need a cuddle.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, be happy. What a great tune, though, great tune,
and thank you very much for the text machine for
sorting that out for me.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Either you go slan in the family stone on the
great Funk. I'll tell you what will make you happy.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Though. We've got a fantastic show today after three o'clock.
This is going to be a good chat. It's been
called the Jason Statham effect. So this was a home
Jason stath and rented out when filming The Meg and
Auckland sold for twenty eight million bucks, which is a
lot of money. Yeah, but I you know, as you
said a little bit earlier in the show how much
you can attribute to Jason Statham, who knows. But the
question we're going to put out there is, have you

(04:31):
purchased a house because something cool happened in that house?
All was associated with that house?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, that's right, or the vice versa someone terrible living
there so he didn't want to buy it.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
That is after three o'clock, After two o'clock? Are we
just a bunch of wines when it comes to life
here in New Zealand? A great story in the Telegram
about a bunch of couples in the UK making the
move to New Zealand's Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So if people come to New Zealand and you see
it all the time and talk about how awesome it is,
are we just a bunch of wines in New Zealand?
All we hear is how bad it is here and
how everyone's rushing off to Australia. But is it just
a comparison? Is the thief of joy? Grasses green or rubbish?
If migrants to our country we can enjoy our place
and see the worth in it. Why are we failing
to at the moment? Why are we, in my opinion,

(05:15):
becoming a nation of complainers and wedges and everything else.
Everything is other people's fault.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeap, that is after two o'clock. That's going to be
a great chat. And right now, let's have a chat
about corruption. New Zealand is becoming more corrupt. We've dropped
four places down the list from being the least corrupt
country in the world to the fourth least. You might
not think that that's bad, but experts say we are
increasingly in a vulnerable position to greater threats. Organized crime

(05:42):
groups have become more sophisticated insiders. We're increasingly being used
and we are naive to that growing threat.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, well, oh Z one hundred and eighty teen eighty.
Have you experienced more corruption in New Zealand? Have you
been approached by someone? Because one way that the corruption
plays out is people organized crime approaching people in customs
and at airports, baggage handlers, people working at the poor
to turn a blind eye to certain certain imports into

(06:13):
our country. So have you been approached or have you
seen this corruption? Because if it's raising at the level
that we think, then there's something to be alarmed about.
And if you are approached, what should you do? Or
if you do see corruption, what should you do, should
you report it? And to who? And sometimes you know,
people are in a vulnerable position when they are approached.

(06:34):
You know, perhaps they've got gambling debts, or perhaps this
is the way they see this their way out of
a problem. And let's be honest, we pay people pretty poorly.
A lot of the people that are at this front
facing people to that are you know, most likely to
be approached by people that are look at organized crime,
that are looking to get stuff into our country.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, I one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. There's no doubt there will be someone listening
right now that has been approached, and we'd love to
hear from you. We can use a pseudonym, we can
protect your identity, but we're really keen to have a
chat with you if you've ever been approached with someone
offering money to look the other way?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Texas is Matt. You have the voice of an angel.
I cried, it was so beautiful. You're singing of that bassline?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So who's that from?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So what? I don't make up text from Tracy? I
don't make up texts. Excuse me? You're making that text.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You've got a good voice, bade good voice right. Coming
up very shortly, we are going to have a chat
to Jared Savage. He wrote this story about increasing corruption
in New Zealand. If you've got a question for Jared,
you can tax that through to nine two nine two.
But he's investigation investigative reporter and looking forward to having
to chat with him very shortly thirteen past one.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
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Speaker 3 (07:51):
Very good afternoon. So corruption by organized crime groups is
a real and growing threat in New Zealand. To discuss this,
we're joined by investigative reporter with the New Zealand hereld
Jared Savage. Jared's very good afternoon to you. Thanks for
having a chat with us.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Hey, good afternoon, guys.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
M Zealand more vulnerable to corruption than before.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Jared, Well, basically we've got more and more of these
really sophisticated organized crime groups from based on the seas
working lists with local groups here to distribute drugs in
New Zealand is a very lucrative market for the drugs.

(08:32):
One of the best ways to keep drugs through the
country it's quite helpful if you've got somebody working in
the ports or working in the airports who can help
facilitate the movement of that drugs easily without getting caught
by customs or the police. And I just think, you know,
we're sort of New Zealand's probably a little bit behind

(08:54):
the rest of the world in terms of you know,
these kinds of trends and where we're finally sort of
catching up and seeing more and more sort of corruption
in the space. When we look at before, what is.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
The organized crime playbook in terms of recruitment for these
inside jobs, Who do they target and.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
How well it's a lot of these jobs to say
you're a Steve Adore at the port, or you're banging
camera at the airport generally sort of lower paying jobs,
so you're quite susceptible to somebody offering you ten, twenty
or thirty thousand dollars to sort of help, you know,

(09:36):
look the other way, or help get a beg, helping
a beg on the plane. A lot of these sort
of it's not like someone wakes up one morning and
decides to be corrupt and then a lot of the stuff.
A lot of these sort of relationships actually start off
of like family ties. So you know, somebody will know

(09:57):
somebody will know somebody in the airport or in the port,
and they'll introduce them. It's not like a cold call
necessarily straight off the street. There'll be some kind of
existing relationship there moving onto small place, you know, tvgrees
of separation, and you know if somebody, you know, if

(10:18):
someone says, hey, look, can you get a bag through
without telling you what's on it? You know, by the way,
he's twenty thousand dollars in your troubles. You know, if
you're any min I'm a wage, that'll be quite a
quite an attractive proposition, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Speaking of family ties, famously, drug cartels will threaten family
members to make them do things. Has it reached that level?
Now do this or your mum dies.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
I haven't heard anything quite like that yet, but I
mean there's always that fear, you know, that the coersion
of particularly maybe maybe you do start, you know, helping
out and bringing a few bags through or whatever, and
then you just try to stop. Yeah, I think I
think it would be very hard to stop because they're
going to say, well, hey, you know, we'll we'll dob

(11:06):
you in or you know, maybe you should think about
what might happen to no more dad or your sister
or whatever. So that that's the fear and the intimidation
from you. Organized climate gangs is real, and I think
once they've got their hooks into you, very hard to
walk away USC.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And then new article you suggest that essential anti corruption
body might be better for fighting this organized crime.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yeah, so this was the idea of the advisory group.
They kind of their whole kind of point was, we
don't have any sort of national strategy for combating corruption
in this space. We don't have any data. We need
to have a strategy to sort of set by the
government across all government agencies, to set the standards around

(11:55):
you know, a bit of vetting of employees and high
risk industries, not just public sector but private sector as well.
There needs to be like an almost mandatory reporting of
anything that might be suspicious because often these sort of cases,
if anything dodgy does come up at the ports or
the airports, it can be treated as an employment matter

(12:18):
as opposed to and it's referred to to the police
or things like that. So that they just want to
I guess the idea of having a secral body is
that you know, one one agency can sort of receive
all those reports, sort of build a bit of an
intelligence picture.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
And then refer those cases to be for further investigation.
And it's probably not a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
We were an easy target, aren't we? Jared at the
end of the day. I mean, as it seas in
the report, we're naive, but it appears to be we
have been an easy target for some of these organized
criminal groups who are very sophisticated, and we need to
wise up effectively.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, it's one of those things we're getting zelands and keywis.
We like to think of ourselves as you know, corruption
free or largely corruption free, and that you know that
has been backed up by the sort of international Transparency Index.
But were used to be number one and now we're slipping.
I mean, just as a I mean, I've been reporting

(13:15):
about organized clients a sort of fifteen years now, and
it's you know, in the early days of that reporting,
we didn't really see so much of this sort of.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Corruption in the ports the inside man. It was often
that the drugs would be well concealed, to be well hidden,
and you know, that was the focus of these groups
trying to get them in.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
I remember the first time.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
We wrote a story about the bag of handlers being corrupted.
It was five years ago, and that was sort of
a bit of a big deal, front page story. And
then now it's like, you know, every other case is
basically there's an inside man somewhere. So we're definitely a
little bit noise about it. We're definitely a little bit
behind the ball in terms of hardening up our systems

(13:59):
to sort of make it harder for organized crime to
do this. So the report to my mind as a
positive step forward to putting a bit of pressure in
the government.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
What should key we's be looking out for and who
would they report approaches or dodgy stuff too?

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Jared Well, I guess, I mean, you're not going to
be necessarily walking down the street and sort of picking
up on something, But I mean if you're working in
the ports or the airports, I mean, I guess the
first port of call would be to report it to
your employer. But if there's no action taken, I'd be
calling the police about this. They need all the help
they can get. Police investigations are only as good as

(14:36):
the information they sort of receive. If you're if you're
a neighbor of a baggage handler or Steve Adore and
they seem to be flashing around too much cash and
probably probably make an anonymous phone call to the crime
stoppers or something like that. But this is a problem.
I mean, yeah, who do you call? Because if you're
in the local police station, they might not necessarily grasp

(15:00):
the you know, they're they're they're busy, they're busy dealing
with some shoplisters.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Right, So having having having a sensible.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Body to say, right, we suspect some sort of you know,
these people have been acting as an inside man, as
a corrupt good worker, would make sense to me, Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Eight hundred gangs.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good good number to you.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Give me a call, yes, yeah, well just before you go. Yeah, Jared,
his books are Gangland and Gang parat Us are excellent read.
So I thoroughly recommend your work.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Jared. Thank you very much for having to chat with
us and fantastic work on the story. And you can
go read Jared's story on The New Zealand here a
website will check again soon.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Thanks guy.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
That is investigative reporter Jared Savage A Savage so we
want to hear from you on this. Are we becoming
a less trusting place? Do we need to wise up?
Are we becoming more corrupt? Do we need to have
as the Advisory Group has suggested a new organization, new
ministry to deal with corruption in New Zealand. Love to
chat with you on O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah and O E one hundred eighty ten eighty. You
can do it completely anonymously. But if you've seen anything
in terms of this kind of organized crime corruption, have
you been approached around trafficking drugs or because of where
you work, and then we'd love to hear from you
as well.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, you can do it anonymous, anonymously absolutely. Our eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
It's twenty four past one.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Breakfast the news from education as we find out we
have more teachers entering schools than in the past twenty years.
Education Minister Erica Stamford's well as what's the breakdown at
locals for immigrants and does it matter?

Speaker 8 (16:43):
Look, I certainly want to grow our own We know
that last year we had a substantial increase in young
people studying at initial teacher education this year.

Speaker 9 (16:51):
This is just provisional figures so far.

Speaker 8 (16:53):
It's a twenty seven percent increase. So we are seeing
more and more young people choosing to go into education
and be part of this world leading education system. But
we are bolstering the numbers, of course by overseas teachers,
and we have to do that at the moment and
we probably will continue to need to do it in
the future as well.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
the Defender of Newstalk ZB.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Good afternoon, twenty seven past one. We are becoming more
corrupt as a country. It's on the back of a
ministerial advisory report, so we want to hear from you
if you have been approach that you've seen corruption. Oh
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. You can stay entirely anonymous.
But the chair of that ministerial group is Senior Crown
Prosecutor Steve Simon. Here's a little bit of what he

(17:34):
said to Mike Coskin this morning.

Speaker 10 (17:36):
We are a country that's become incorrupt. We were proudly
the number one country in the world in terms of
the least amount of corruption, we've dropped down to number
four and we're unfortunately trending in the wrong direction. But
more than that, I think what we're seeing is we
used to be a country where I think we genuinely
could trust one another to keep up the values of
our country, and sadly, I think it's being eroded.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
So I mean pretty sad comments right at the end
there that we used to be a country where we
could trust that the values were there and we could
trust one another, but that was being eroded.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah. Well, I mean some of the Pacific nations are
close to becoming narco states basically, and that leads on
to us, and primarily because you can sell a class
drugs in New Zealand for a huge amount of money. Comparatively,
the amount people are willing to pay makes Australia and
New Zealand very very attractive markets for people that are

(18:32):
wanting to get illstit substances across our borders. Kiwis don't
Snitch said this text there you go. Yep, you guys
are asking this is another text that you guys are
asking us to become a nation of narcs. Okay, no,
corrupt in New Zealand. My ass if there is cocaine
in our country, there is corruption to get it in.

(18:55):
It doesn't walk here itself. The airports are super dodgy,
says this text. I don't want to talk, but I
have seen some stuff that would surprise you. At the ports.
It's more prevalent than you think. It's routine, mate, routine.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
That is frightening. And this text to sees guys. I
bought a couple of cardons of cigarettes back from mate.
Tobacco limit is fifty darts per person, so got hit
with an excise duty. Fair enough, I played the game,
but then the cheeky bug is put gst on the
excise duty. That's double dip. I wouldn't be able to
get away with it if I were a business. So

(19:28):
marginal administrative corruption if you ask me, but I can
see why people try and sneak it in.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yees so I e one hundred and eighty ten eighty
Do you think our country is becoming more corrupt? Have
you seen corruption? Have you been approached by someone? If
you're in one of those positions, it is helpful to
people that are trying to bring drugs in the country.
Have you been approached?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call, love to hear from you? If you
do work in these industries? Does there need to be
more vetting of people that you do employ? I eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Twenty
nine past.

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I'm captain in the Millennium Falcon. Chewie here tells me
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Years Indeed, if it's a fast ship, fast ship, you've
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Speaker 11 (21:56):
What is it?

Speaker 12 (21:56):
Some kind of local trouble.

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Let's just say we'd like to avoid any imperial entanglements.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Thank god. I mean that's terrible corruption. I be word
wand meaning smuggler hands solo for the first time. Terrible
corruption at Massilicely Spaceport and Tatouine. I mean, if Tatouine
and Massily Spaceport can be targeted with that kind of
smuggling and corruption and not wanting imperial intanglements, then what
hoped in New Zealand's ports.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Exactly a Jedi knight of all people. But that is
exactly what we're talking about corruption in New Zealand, and
sadly our corruption levels are increasing. We've dropped down the
list internationally. We were number one in terms of the
least corrupt nation in the world. We're now number four,
and experts say we're going to continue dropping because we've
been naive and organized criminal groups who are very sophisticated

(22:47):
are taking advantage of us and using insiders more and
more at the ports, at the airports, and also in
public institutions.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I know some prison guards, says this text, get paid
five K for smuggling a cartoon of cities into prisons.
Guards are not allowed to be personally searched if suspected,
only their lunch box and bag can be searched. Do
it four times a year. There's twenty K, So you
know that's corruption on a I mean, I think we've
all known that that's been happening in prisons for a
long time. I'm always surprised how much stuff is in

(23:16):
prison and how it gets there. I remember I remember
for a while I was in the news around Mount
Eden Prison where people were just driving past and haffing
stuff over the.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Over the walls that stripes. That was an easy way
to get some guns.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Would you call that corruption? Just driving down Boston Road
and having some drugs over. I don't know if that's
a corruption, but I find really interesting because you know,
when we were talking to Jared Savage before, and you know,
the idea of who would you approach if someone approached you,
if say you were a baggage handler, or if you're
working on the ports, or you're someone that could you know,

(23:53):
you know, put a blind eye across things coming to
the country. And a lot of people have said that
you shouldn't say anything. As we said at the text
four keys don't snitch? Are you asking us to become narks?

Speaker 8 (24:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Dobbing people in isn't the New Zealand waste? Is this text?
Snitches get stitches if someone approaches you, says this text
to say no, but don't call the cops too much trouble.
It is not your problem. The sticks says, I don't
take drugs, so why do I care if other idiots do.
Let them bring it in. Idiots can take it and
smuggle it. Who cares?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, and this one if you want to stay happy
and healthy, mind your business. It ain't the movies fellas whoo.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
So is that what we are because that is by
far the biggest comment that we've got on the text machine.
And look, I wanted people to ring on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and tell us if they'd seen anything,
and especially if they've been close to it at the
ports or an airport or had been approached. And you know,
no one's calling in on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
It might have been a little bit of a pipe

(24:51):
dream that there would happen.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Literally, we're getting a lot of tech.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
But is that because people, yea, we're getting hundreds hundreds
of text telling us this thing? Is that because people
in New Zealand generally believe that you shouldn't snitch on someone,
that you shouldn't be a n arc and that you
should turn a blind eye to Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Corruption depends on the level. But I think it is
a little bit of New Zealand culture that you don't
dob on people for what could be seen as minor infractions. Yeah,
you know, you wouldn't dob on your neighbor for I
don't know, maybe chopping down a tree for example, that
he shouldn't chop down. Most people, I think in New

(25:30):
Zealand would look at that and say, would idb on
that person? Or there'll be a lot of people that
think we're the opposite, you know. The Karen comes to
mind that we're a bunch of busy bodies. But I
actually think it's more ingrained that we don't dob on people.
We don't knak, we don't you know, snitches get stitches scenario.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
But what about in Lockdown where the whole nation turned
into a bunch of narks, Yeah and dobbing in their neighbors.
That was a weird turn of events, wasn't it it.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, Well, it was like you putting your you know,
some of your rubbish and your neighbor's bins that I
would I would suspect that even if a neighbor saw you,
if they dobbed you in it's bad New Zealander. Yeah, oh,
or are you the bad New Zealander for actually using
their rubbish bin in the first place? But you know
what I mean, that's a minor infraction. So I saw
my neighbor putting stuff in my rubbish bin, I would

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be ringing the council to say, do you think we.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Should drill down on corruption to that level? Yeah, the
absolute to the level of people putting rubbish in each
other's burns, that's corruption. It starts there.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
See. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty are we
a bunch of dobbers or not?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Corruption?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Michelle? How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 13 (26:36):
Hi?

Speaker 14 (26:36):
Guys, good, Thanks.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Now, you're a great person to chat to, Michelle, because
you have been approached and obviously we're using different names
and we're not going to name names in the scenario,
but this has happened to you.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (26:50):
So I employ about fifty staff and I have recently
had a number of them the migrants looking to hit
their visas and they would well, the government's changed the
roles now, but up until recently they had to have
a medium wage and if we didn't want to pay
them that then they wouldn't get their visas. And so

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I've had a couple of my staff basically say to me,
can I pay you the difference cash.

Speaker 15 (27:18):
You know, as a battender.

Speaker 14 (27:20):
And I attest to them to the medium paying them
the medium wage, and they were quite scared to pat
to me in cash and dribble it out of their
bank accounts.

Speaker 16 (27:29):
And I refused.

Speaker 14 (27:32):
And they couldn't understand that because they said they were Chinese,
and they basically said, but we all do it. That's
how all of the Chinese businesses operate.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
So if you had done that and would refused, if
you had done that and you had been caught, that
would be a serious charges.

Speaker 14 (27:53):
Against you, oh massive, yeah, yeah, And I didn't. And
for that loan I refused, But ethically I felt it
was completely wrong, and I just refused on my personal
values and because it was us wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Did you think that you should report these people for asking?

Speaker 16 (28:17):
Well? I couldn't really.

Speaker 14 (28:19):
I didn't really feel I had anything to report them
on because there was nothing actually happened. If I had
knew that, no, and they've done it through another business
that I knew, for example, and there was some actual
proper wrongdoing.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, you know, I would have had something.

Speaker 14 (28:36):
To report, but there was There's nothing actually wrong.

Speaker 16 (28:39):
They just passed.

Speaker 14 (28:40):
But they certainly indicated that lots of people they knew
were in very similar arrangements.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So I wonder what the charge would have been against
you if you caught doing that. It would be someone
might be able to tell me, is that fraud?

Speaker 14 (28:56):
I would have would have been ford, But also I'm
an accredited employer, so I would have all my accreditation
and I would have been in trouble and you.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Would and you would have been accused of You probably
would have been accused of exploiting migrant workers as well.

Speaker 14 (29:14):
Yeah, exactly, it was the other way around.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, so you don't have to you don't have to
answer this one, Michelle. But what sort of money are
we talking about here? Clearly you are a good citizen
and have have ethics, but was it enough money for
someone who was a bit more nefarious might have taken
them up on that?

Speaker 17 (29:33):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (29:34):
I look it with five dollars an hour for us
right on an hourly rate, you know, that's probably in
the three to five dollars rate. But it was the
principle of it, and they went worth the extra money.
In my mind, anyway.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, so, yeah, fascinating Michelle, Thank you very much for
having a chat with us, and and cout on you
for turning them down. But you know, as the the
article says, without a body to be able to, you know,
go to and say, hey, I've just been approached by
these people. What else do you do?

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Who else do you go to to say this has happened?

Speaker 14 (30:09):
Okay, we're just taking principles nowadays.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, all right, thank you so much for your call, Michelle.
Appreciate that. I mean, that's there's something that that's corruption
on Tony different levels, isn't it. Yeah, so that there
is this little corruption like you accusing me of rubbish
spin coruption yep, dumping my rubbish and different people's bins yep.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Quite the infraction now.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
And there's this this kind of corruption here around you know,
migrants trying to game the system and a backhanded type
situation yep. And then you've got people that let whole
containers of methan feitamine get.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Into the country and getting paid nineteen thousand dollars for it. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call love to hear from you. If you have been
approached or you've come across a corruption in your industry
or job. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call and do you agree.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
With fifty percent of this text machine at the moment
and the hundreds of texts coming and saying that kiwis
don't snitch?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Taylor Adams afternoons used talk.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
ZB News TALKSB. We're talking about corruption in New Zealand.
We are going down the list in terms of the
least corrupt country in the world. We were number one
for a long time and we were very proud of that.
We're now number four and experts are concerned we're going
to drop lower because where naive, organized criminal groups are
taking advantage of us, and more and more insiders are

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being used to smuggle things across the border, to grease
the wheels, to take some money and turn the other way.
So love to you from you on O eight hundred
and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Hi, guys, snitches do get stitches in New Zealand. That's
what I learned a long time ago. Love your show,
Jason all right, a lot of people say that snitches
get stitches, yeah, and that Kiwis don't snitch.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I need to know more.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Jason Ian, welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (31:56):
Thanks serving me.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Thanks for giving us a buzz. So what's your story
in regards to corruption.

Speaker 18 (32:04):
Those fairly through military styles? We sa us or saw
the apartment at first open and one of our employees
started off as a student Chinese guild, which is absolutely
excellent work, and she sort of worked her way through
the management. But the she that she had is between
all her Chinese community, it was seen as unfair that

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she wouldn't be paying us money to have one of
these management quite roles, because that's how they were getting
visus at the time to stay in the country after
being be a student.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
So the fact, so how much money did she offer?
Can I ask that?

Speaker 18 (32:44):
In like would? We solidly turned her down multiple times
that she said, just getting bollied so bad from hermates
that she is you know you're going to have to
walk away. But she's just there's actually three owners at
the time, She's just put one hundred and eighty bucks
in until a week and she just said yeah, basically

(33:04):
she couldn't take it out. We've had to take it
or just call it over taking or whatever. But yes,
she's getting really badly bully because yeah, she wasn't paid.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Well wow, And then so what did you do? How
did you deal with that situation?

Speaker 18 (33:28):
Used to be a pub there, we just go, yeah,
sort out the over balance until it's to the things.
But you know, we didn't want to take money. Didn't
think it wasn't it's illegal, right, yeah. But just basically
since she's you know, she's going to have to quit,
its just so ingrained.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So you're saying that the fact that she wasn't so
that so essentially to not be corrupt was frowned upon.

Speaker 19 (33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Absolutely, that that's a really difficult situation for you to
be in because the money is not being handed it's
not being handed to you in a you know, a
brown paper bag or slipped in your back pocket or whatever.
It's just being left in the till so you have
forced you're forced to actually deal with it, you knowles
you yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
And that peer pressure too, you know, I mean, I'm
sure she didn't see it as corruption, but that's exactly
what it was. And the peer pressure of our other
workers to do that, yeah, that is a difficult situation and.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Absolutely getting bullied to be corrupt.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Not even handing the money over, just leaving it in
the till.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I had a friend who was telling me about a
pizza place that his son daughter I think was usked to,
was working in and they said, we'll only pay you cash. Yeah,
And they were new immigrants to the country. New migrants
to the country, will only pay you cash. And then
after the first few shifts, they said, we didn't get
any cash coming in, so we can't pay you at all.
And they were like, well, hang on a minute, so

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we're going to go We're going to the i ID
with this. You know, when you said you're only paying cash,
we thought you mean you were paying in cash, but
this is the and they said, no, we'll only pay
you if cash comes in and you're not in the box.
And it was a complex situation for how they were
running their business to get citizenship and such. Under those circumstances,

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what do you do. Are you supposed to go and
say this pizza shop is corrupt?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Well, yeah, I mean because otherwise.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
You've got people that are running a company in New
Zealand that aren't paying any tax into.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
The system exactly. And as soon as you take their cash.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Or aren't paying tax into the system, well wht anyway.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, and then the IID will come after you as well.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call love to hear from you. Tim. What's
your view on this afternoons gentlemen.

Speaker 20 (35:47):
Yeah, So I dropped into the into the station and
started listening, and I ended up with more questions. I
was teaking to your producer about it. So what I did,
DIPEA is sort of since I spoke to them, I've
looked online to see what defines corruption and give themself
quite an education, say, because.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
It would appear.

Speaker 20 (36:14):
See, I mean see, I was wondering, how like where
at what point does say a negotiation become corrupt? And
it could include anything like in a relationship. Ah, you know,
this is the where I was going. And this list
that constitutes corruption is astonishing and I think basically it

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could make all of us hypocrites.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
M there's a line.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
No really, yeah, okay, so you've got some examples on there.

Speaker 20 (36:45):
Okay, So one would be like neptism and you know,
he doesn't want to help out a family member, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, and we leave that game.

Speaker 20 (36:58):
And but also and there've got so many questions about it,
but can we afford to not have things that work
that way? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Got agree with the wheels, Right, Yeah, that's an interesting
idea that if you don't have any corruption at all,
does things just grow into Oh, is there a certain
amount of corruption? And we're not talking about helping people
smoke drugs, smuggle drugs into the country, but there's a
certain amount of Yeah, I see exactly what you're saying,
A little bit of.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that is a fact society. You're
quite right. Yeah, But I suppose it comes down to
personal ethics, doesn't Most of us, looking at those scenarios
would use our ethical values and say, is that breaking
the law? Is that breached the line of what I
would consider corruption versus greasing the wheels? But here you

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raise an interesting point.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Thank you you call Tim. I've got my questions on nepotism.
I'm interesting. I don't know, is nepotism that bad? Isn't
the whole point of being a parent as you get
yourself in a position where you can make your life
easier for your kids. Isn't that Isn't that what we're
trying to do. Aren't we just struggling away every day
to get into a position where we can maybe use
our contacts with other people to maybe make the incredibly

(38:16):
tough business of being a human being growing up. Yea
a little bit easier.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
So the way of the world, it's always been about
who you know.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
So I think it'd be very hard to get rid
of nepotism, Yeah, because it's just so ingrained in us
to look after our kids.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, I agree, Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty, ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I hope one day I'm in a position to to
bestow some nepotism on my case.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, most parents woulds It is seven to two bag
very shortly.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Madd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams
Afternoons News Talks V.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
It is forward to two great discussion text here get
a guys. I don't think it's a kiwis don't snitch trait.
I think it's more of a cowardly not my business attitude,
And you can clearly see it when there's an argument
fight bullying going on in a public place. For example,
no one in Devens. They stand back with their phones out.
That has cowardly behavior. That goes hand in hand with
what you were talking about the rise of corruption in

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New Zealand's.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
And the sex says nepotism. The game the whole family
can play exactly that.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
It is right.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Great discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who phoned
and text on that topic. We've got a new topic,
cup after two o'clock are we a bunch of wines
in New Zealand will tell you more very shortly, New
Sport and Weather on its way listening to Matt and Tyler.
Good afternoon to you. You want to be you want

(39:54):
to be wrong?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, you know, talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen,
Taylor Adams Afternoons News Dogs.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
It'd be good afternoon. Chare welcome back into the show.
Six past too. Just before we get into the next topic,
we were talking about roasts yesterday.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Matt, Yeah, delicious roast chat, said, a.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Beautiful roast chat. And a lady called Kathy rang up
and she had a bit of a chat about roasts.
But she said that her oven was broken and she
couldn't afford to fix it. So we said, we're going
to try and help Kathy out to get her oven
fixed because that's not on now. This is why we
love the station and the TICS machine. So a guy
called Chris from Axeal Appliance Servicing God in Touch and

(40:48):
he said, hey, I'm happy to help Kathy out. I'll
go around and have a look at her oven. So
we've hooked those two people up. Chris is going to
head round to Kathy's place and she get her oven
and fix that for her, which is a great news story.
So Kathy is absolutely chuffed.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
And we were going to supply you were going to
supply the lamb, and I was going to supply the
yams so she can cook a roast.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I thought it was the other way around, wasn't it.
I hope you've been shopping for some good lamb. Kathy's fussy.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, well you need an oven to roast, don't you.
So we'll make sure we sought that out for him. Yep, exactly.
And what was the name of the company again, this Chris?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
What was Exeal Appliance Servicing. I've got to say, Chris said, hey,
I don't need you to give me a shout out
or anything like that just because he's a good bugger, clearly,
But I said, no, we're gonna give you a shout out, mate,
us mate exactly, So Axeal dot co dot NZ. He'll
be embarrassed by that, but go see them if you've
got a problem with your impliance. Good people and they're
helping Kathy out, which is what we love. So speaking
of loving this country, are we a bunch of winches

(41:43):
when it comes to life in New Zealand? Now I
say love in New Zealand because there's a great story.
It's in the Herald today but it is written by
the Telegraph in the UK and it talks to a
bunch of couples in the UK who made the move
here to New Zealand. So the costs involved, what it
takes to get a visa, what sort of skills that
we require, all that sort of information, but the big

(42:06):
takeaway from the story is how much these UK couples
and citizens absolutely adore New Zealand. And the quote here
that I absolutely love from one of the couples, Robert
and Sabrina, they said, I quote, we could have earned
more if we moved to Australia, but we weren't happy there.
The weather was good, but it wasn't as welcoming as

(42:27):
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yes, so you know they thought news. This is how
they rated New Zealand. Improved work life balance and family time,
Safer environment for raising children, friendly and inclusive local communities,
access to nature and outdoor activities, less daily stress compared
to the life in the UK. And yet what do
we hear in New Zealand. All we ever here is
in New Zealand is so bad. It's so terrible listening

(42:51):
a living here was so under the boot that we
can hardly succeed and it's all we can do to
upsticks and move to Australia because it's so horrible here.
And yet here's an article in the Telegraph in the
UK saying how great it is in New Zealand and
how people that live move New Zealand absolutely love it.
So how can those two things be true? That if

(43:13):
migrants to our country can love our country and see
how good it is, why can't we.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty have
we become?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Because I don't think New Zealand has used to be
Winges I think we used to have this attitude where
we don't know how lucky we are, what a fantastic
place it is to be here. Thank god I was
born on these beautiful islands yep. But now we seem to,
you know, judging by the text machine and judging by
a lot of calls we get. And if you go
anywhere there social media, winge, winge, winge, every article and

(43:43):
the Herald, there's people winging about how bad it is.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah. I mean when I hear from anybody who lives
in the UK, they say that it's there's never any sun,
so it just rains all the time. If there is
a slight bit of sun that kind of pokes out,
everybody rushes to the outside bar and you can't get
a seat. If there's a beach day, good luck at
trying to find a good beach in the UK. There's
only a handful. But of course that absolutely rammed. And

(44:07):
then I look at you Zealand life here is we've
got bugger all people compared to other countries, which is
a good thing. We've got beach's galore, beautiful landscape. We
are good people. There's so much to love here and
I just get.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh, have we become more winging than the winging palms?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Maybe? I eight one hundred?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Is it now happy palms? Winging kiwis?

Speaker 6 (44:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (44:28):
But also, if you've moved to this country, why did
you pack New Zealand as your new home? What was
it about this country that you maybe fell in love with?
In love with?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I should say, yeah, Well, maybe if we listen to
more migrants telling us how good our country is, then
we'll get over ourselves and appreciate it more.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Maybe we just need other people to come around and go, look,
it's actually pretty good. You're winging crying babies. Hey, can
we make a proviso on Kathy's oven? Yep, that we'll
give her oven, but you're not allowed to cook parsnip
in it. As this text is well done, boys with
the oven? Hey, Matt, don't forget the parsnips. Let's that's
from Phil. So look, I'm willing to help Kathy, and

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I think she's a lovely person and she deserves an oven.
She's horrible, but I just don't want any more parsnips
to be cocked in the community.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Can we let Kathy decide? If I text her right now?
And just put put the ball in Kathy's caught. Are
you up for that? I'll teach Katy right now.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I'm not going to give Kathy any conditions, okay on
the situation, but as I make clear yesterday, I cannot
buy a passing them.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Okay, we'll draft that text up, just a quick one.
Kathy parsnips, Yeah, your nay, and we'll see what she
comes back with. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call full boards. If you can't
get through, keep trying. It is twelve.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Person Already people coming in with the winging improving my point.
Oh god, God, come on, we need to start shaming winges. Yep, yeah,
you think you've got it. There's so many other places
in the world that have it so much worse.

Speaker 21 (45:51):
Exactly your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk sed B.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
News Talk zed B. We've just got a truckload a
text in on this discussion. So of ask the question,
our New Zealand is a bunch of winges On the
back of this Telegraph story you can read it in
the Herald, but it is based on a couple stories
of those in the UK who have decided to make
New Zealand their new home, and they absolutely adore it
here better than Australia, obviously better than the UK, better

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than the States, better than Thailand. And why can't we
see how lucky we are in this country?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, so if you have moved to this country and
you think it's a great place, so I one hundred
and eighty ten eighty. We'd love to hear from you.
Maybe migrants to the country will make us appreciate what
we have, yeah, or are we just being pollyannas? And
is this a country? An absolute disaster? And we have
every right to spend our time sooking and crying and winging.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
And if you can't get through, keep trying. There's a
few techs in that regard, So just keep trying. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty Scott, welcome to the show.

Speaker 22 (47:02):
Good afternoon, lads, And you're right to quote the song
We don't know how lucky we are, mate, because you're
dead right, because we have a fantastic country to live
in and it's really nice the fact that the English
have seen it as for what it is it truly is.
And it is situational too in some aspects too, because
I'm sure there are some out there if they watch

(47:24):
Chantel one news all the time, we think the country's
gone to hell, and of course it has not. The
country's a wonderful place to live. And it's not about
what the country can give you. It's about what you
can do to improve.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
The country lovely.

Speaker 22 (47:38):
Now we're all here, we're here to help grow our
nation so it's a better one for our kids or
our grandkids and their kids. We want to make sure
that this place is one that will continue to be
a beautiful place, a thriving community one. I think personally
that we need to get back to our fundamental basics

(47:59):
on which is a smaller net area looking after each other.
Now we sort of talk about not knowing our neighbors.
Where we've gone to the point where we don't even
know the guy down the road. And the old days,
the rural community especially all knew each other. Got to
the community halls, that's why they're everywhere. For example, the
old dairy factories used to be there as well. They
used to all go there and sell all their dairy

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and I'm sure they use it as a as a
place to congregate as well and have a genuine chat
about the situations and share problems, because you know, especially
in the farming and rural community, guys, are you taking
it pretty hard there? And I just think they just
don't probably have that same net and community that they
used to have. And I just think if we can
get back to that sort of mindset, our country is
one and that can definitely help these people come into

(48:44):
our country and enjoy what we have to enjoy it. Yeah,
I really feel that if they just stay away from
the negative nancies, if you like, sorry Nancy and just
say and just stay just you are a product of
your environment. Yeah you're having a good time. Everyone else

(49:05):
around you will too.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
And I think that's a good point, Scott, because you've
got to ask yourself the motivations of people and that
that are winging, because often winging comes with you know,
social media cachet and likes or you know, as a
news source, you might find that you get more engagement
the more negative you are. I mean, a story that
says New Zealand's pretty good, it's not going to get

(49:28):
as many ticks and not as many cliques as a
story that says New Zealand sucks to put it really
black basically. So I think you're right, Scott. I think
it's a good idea to just question why people are
saying this, yeah.

Speaker 22 (49:43):
And look at themselves in their their situation, find ways
to improve your situation instead of, like I sort of
said before, instead of asking what they can do, what
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, it's good talk to I wonder if because you know,
that was in JFK's nineteen sixty one in augural address
when he said, ask not what your country can do
for you, ask what you can do for your country.
Didn't nail the thing, But can you mention a politician
saying that now and people going yeah, yeah, that's not
the way people look at things anymore. If if someone

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ran on that platform, people would be like, why would
I do anything for my country?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
They'd get angry. They've seen it, you know. I mean,
arguably we don't have a JFK in New Zealand right
now in a political spheres, but I've heard that that
it's time to take personal responsibility and we want to
see you succeed and do better, and you can help
that by pulling you know, I'm paraphrasing here, pulling the
bootstrats up and doing something for yourself, let us help you,

(50:42):
and then people get angry.

Speaker 23 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well it's like what can you do for your family
and then your community, and then your wider community and
then your country. Yeah, I mean that that's probably the best.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Way to look at It should be a message we
can get behind.

Speaker 24 (50:55):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I can't just imagine if any party tried to run
on that.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Now, good luck, yeah luck, some great tics coming through.
Get our guys. I'm from South Africa and New Zealand
is truly the country of milk and honey. Life is
so good here and the crime is very little compared
to back home. You kiwiz, don't know how lucky you are.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, I'm getting a lot of kickback on my attempt
at Jaffk's accent.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
It was because, you know, on adult sportsnagger them.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
My favorite quote of Jaffks is we do these things
not because they're easy, but because they're hard. I get harded, right,
that's that's good, but not the easy. Yeah, And that's
another great quote. Do things not because they're easy, not
but because they're herd. And that was his speech at
Wright State University, you know, starting off the race to
the moon.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
He was a genius. Seek guy, Oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you
have migrated here to New Zealand. What did you love
about this country? Love to hear from you twenty past two.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Know JFK wasn't German. I want to find the actual speech.
My inmitations are poor.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons, call Oh eight hundred eighty
eighty on news Talks.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
News Talk, zed b. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Ask not what you can do for your country, ask
what your country can do for you. Okay, let's compare it.
I've been I've been getting a lot of a lot
of pushback on my jaffcam personation. Only a person who
hates parsnips would make such a mess of jaff case
Accentsince Henry, I agree, all right, Here we go, Here
we go. Here It is from Jaffk's inaugural speech in
nineteen sixty one.

Speaker 25 (52:33):
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask
what you can do for your country.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Who got nailed it?

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Well, not quite nailed it, but that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I've got to say, there's a second bit that even
forgets fellow citizens of the world.

Speaker 25 (52:50):
Af not what America will do for you, but what
together we can do for the freedom of man.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Oh that's a good line, isn't there?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
How about that?

Speaker 20 (53:01):
Who?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
That's what we need to hear in New Zealand. Plenty
of teachs coming through on this one, but we are
talking about a UK list is coming to New Zealand.
Great story in the Herald written by the Telegraph, of course,
talking to couples who have immigrated here, and they say
they absolutely adore New Zealand, but we can forget being
born here and growing up here. How fricking awesome this

(53:23):
place is.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yes, so they said, improve work, life balance and family
times say for environment, for raising children, friendly and inclusive
local communities, access to nature and out directivities, less daily
stress compared to life in the UK. So do we
need to lead to listen to migrants that say it's
awesome before we'll stop winging. This person's still winging. New
Zealand is stuff. It's full of pea, and this government
refuses to face it and deal with it. It will
soon be totally out of control. Well, I'll tell you

(53:45):
what a lot of other countries that are full of
pea as well.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Welcome to the show, Mars.

Speaker 26 (53:51):
It's been a while, oh boys with the working trying
to make some money to pay them Texas, to keep
all the unemployed happy to hear.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
You're doing what you can. You're not asking what the
country could do for you.

Speaker 27 (54:03):
I'm just doing it.

Speaker 26 (54:04):
But I wear a bunch of the ring socks. Seriously.
You know, I've lived in the UK and I've been
back there recently, and I think I wouldn't want to
even go near there again visiting anymore. I lived in
the Philippines for a year and a half. You know,
we talk about potholes here, Well over there you can't
do over fifty k's because it's not potholes. It's just
half the roads missing the roadse messing. You look at that,

(54:27):
you go, dee, it's not that bad at Hope, And
I lived in the Solomon Islands and TG you know,
and the litter and the warribush and the waste and
all that we all at least it all gets collected here,
you know. In overall we're not that there, but we
are becoming the senseiment titled in the last probably twenty years.
We actually don't want to do any work. We look at,
you know, like going to pick fruit and an orchard

(54:48):
and that the averages ell it won't do that because
we're too good for that, or we're educated. But if
we look at the stool and we can't read or write,
and we don't really add and subtrack, but we're educated,
and I think that we actually rate ourselves higher than
what we really are. We need to just get a
griff of reality and say, hey, you know, get off
your ars, go to work, and life's going to be fine.
And we don't we owned about potholes, but.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Go on travel and wild and see what it's like
everywhere else.

Speaker 26 (55:13):
We're actually punching way above our weight. And you know
your little my taste of jsk, he said, ask.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Not ask the ask not Harris, ask, ask what your
country can do for you?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Much, what you can do for your country, Marris, can
you give the full line?

Speaker 24 (55:37):
No?

Speaker 26 (55:37):
No, no, no, I'm not going to ask what the
country can do for me. I'll just do it for myself,
because what I've ruined in life is it at least
you get off your ears and do it for yourself,
and no one else is.

Speaker 28 (55:47):
Going to do it for you.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
And I said that to my kids.

Speaker 26 (55:49):
You know, no one's going to you know when I die,
there's nothing less than the pot because I'm going to
spend it all. So you're better get off you all.
You're getting goot an education.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, that's not what Morris can do for for for
as kids. Ask what his kids can do for Mars.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Yeah, absolutely, simply enough of them.

Speaker 26 (56:06):
I can spend a month with each of them now.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
You know.

Speaker 26 (56:08):
Yeah, yeah, and don't worry about the super fund. I'll
just go and bludge off the kids for a month
when I get to a sage, when I need to.
And that is what I've contributed to society. They reckon
that we're declining in population, when I'll help keep it up.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, I thank you very much, appreciate them.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
We've we've heard a lot about your multiple kids.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
But you're a good man, This says, Ask what the
country is doing about p Okay?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Okay, right? That doesn't quite ad the same ring to it.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of
call if you are a migrant here. We'd love to
hear from you. Why did you move to New Zealand And?
Why did you stay? Plenty of tecks coming through about
your jfk impersonation as well.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
This is interesting texts. Think God Jeff k became president
before Viegra. Oh, I think he. I think he still
managed to.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
He did it right, haven't I said? A good time?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I think I see what you're saying. Yeah, you would
have done even more.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, the Kennedys did pretty well in that department. I think,
dear text to.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
You that that's yeah, they were into there.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, they gave a lot to a.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Bunch of pants. Me and the Kennedy's America.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
It's twenty eight parts.

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Speaker 3 (58:29):
Thanks very much, Raylane. We're talking about immigrating here to
this beautiful country. There's a great story on the New
Zealand Herald talking two couples in the UK about why
they chose New Zealand as their new home.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yes, so it was reprinted in from an article on
the Daily Taragraph. So it's you know, a UK newspaper
interviewing some British couple that have moved to New Zealand
absolutely love it. Meanwhile, everyone hears winging and moaning. Do
we need to listen to migrants that love the country
so we can finally see how good it is here? Yeah, Paula,
you've moved here from the UK.

Speaker 29 (59:03):
I have.

Speaker 30 (59:04):
Yeah, I moved here when I retired sixty five. I
was born in Liverpool in the UK and I worked
in the NHS for nearly forty years in the UK.
I retired at sixty five and I came over here
with my husband on a parent visa.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
On visa sorry what a perlent? A permanent apparent?

Speaker 30 (59:29):
Yeah, okay, it.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Was pretty good on peer No, I can't I.

Speaker 30 (59:34):
Talk about Liverpoolian this.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 30 (59:41):
Yeah, I used to know him. Have another story, yeah, okay.
My two children born in Liverpool in the UK, believe
us or not, married two New Zealanders, one each. And
my six grandchildren lived.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
And were born in New Zealand.

Speaker 30 (01:00:04):
And I came over with my husband when I retired
to support them, to support my children, to look after
my grand kids, so my children could go to work
if they were sick, to go and watch them play sports,
go to the beach with them, and I also work
for twelve years in New Zealand as a volunteer in

(01:00:26):
a hospice op shop, which i've just left.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Now, how many stars do you give out the country
since you've moved over.

Speaker 30 (01:00:35):
Here, I would say five stars. This is a beautiful place.
And today today I went to the post office and
we've just applied for citizenship my grand kids. Yeah, we've
just applied for it today. I've sent it to Wellington.
Lots of form filling for both myself. My husband is

(01:00:56):
eighty in a couple of months, and we're hoping our
grandchildren can watch our citizenship ceremony because I watched my
kids at the ceremony when they got citizenship and it
is very moving if nobody's seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Paula, when you hear New Zealand is winging about the country,
what do you say that.

Speaker 30 (01:01:18):
Well, we've been to lots of places in our time,
mainly your but I have been to Australia as well,
and honestly, I don't know. They have no idea what.
I don't know what they're winging about because they live
in Paradise. You know, it's the most beautiful place, It's
it is it's the most beautiful place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Well, thank you so much for that, positively, Paula. But
I've got to take you back to Ringo Star because
I'm a huge Beatles fan and anytime, anytime there's any
mention of the Beatles, I get excited and I have
to I have to tell So just tell us how
you knew your new Ringo.

Speaker 30 (01:01:53):
I didn't know him directly, but I used to go
to the Cavern, yes before, before the original cavern in Liverpool,
before anyone had ever heard of the Beatles. Yes, only
the people that lived in Liverpool knew them before they'd
made their records, and really just after they'd come back
from Hamburg and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Would have been would have been a great live band after.

Speaker 20 (01:02:16):
All the.

Speaker 30 (01:02:19):
Early sixties. We went at lunchtime, we went in the evening,
We danced to them and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
What was it like record? Sorry, what was it like
to watch this band that you'd seen at the Caven
just a small band playing the picked out crowds and
being big in Liverpool just become the hugest thing in
the world.

Speaker 30 (01:02:39):
Nobody knew of them outside Liverpool. And I bought the
record Love Me Too, and they were under the Polophone label,
and and I forgot that record and I took it
to London with me to see my friend. I was
about fourteen, and unfortunately I left it there. And I

(01:02:59):
think she spread the world in the London area about
this group called the Beatles, which she had never heard of.
And when I came home, I.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Balls under the one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Yeah I had.

Speaker 30 (01:03:10):
Yeah, So you know, it's to be at the beginning
when nobody knew them, and to dance the nights away
with the sweat running down the wall. There's no fire escapes,
there's nothing, you know, Silla Black taking the coat, things
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
So well, Silla Black was there too, so very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Thank you so much for your call. Paula, So paul Up,
I'm gonna I'm gonna call it that record she took
to London that started Beatlemania.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
The Beatles would be nothing without Paula.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Without That's how it got out of Liverpool, Yes, how
it spread.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
What was the Cavin, by the way, it was the
Kevin and Nightclub. I take it, is that right? Well,
when you mentioned the cabin, the cavern or the Cavern,
which was the place they fit. It's the very famous
venue where the Beatles first started playing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It's beautiful brick sort of place. Yeah, I love that,
very famous the Beatles fans.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Thank you very much. Paula. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
teen eighty is the number to call if you are
a migrant here to New Zealand. Why did you pick
New Zealand? What do you love about it? And look,
if you're a Kiwi that actually adores our country as well,
we can hear from you. It is twenty two to three.
Back fore shortly here on News TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
A fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eight TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Good afternoon, It's twenty to three.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Do you know why I'm called Matthew?

Speaker 23 (01:04:27):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Because the Cavin Club where the Beatles first started playing,
is in Matthews on Matthew Street in Liverpool.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Is that actually true? Yeah, that's what you were named us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
So I'm a Beatles fan before I was even born.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Mate, A claim the fame, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
The cabin is from Coronation Street, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah, and there was a ticksie That's why I was
having a week. Gaggles said, what is the cab cabin.
Geez Tyler met has such patients with you, I'd say
it's the other way around.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Usually, Yeah, I don't have any patients. A great show. Yes,
As a South African immigrant and having lived in four countries,
New Zealand is the best. Keep secret. Met my wife
here and have three girls, best place on earth. And
see we need migrants to our country to tell us
that it's good to stop us when jenemally and welcome
to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Can they guys away very goods?

Speaker 23 (01:05:16):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (01:05:16):
And he a little disclosure. So my father moved out
from Ireland in the seventies and my wife came out
from France and about twenty odd years ago. So I
that doesn't taint my view. But what it does is
I get to travel back over most parts of my
life through the eighties and nineties two thousand's to those

(01:05:40):
countries and got to visit them and compare. Even lived
in Island for a year when I was growing up
in the nineties, and there is no comparison in my
in my opinion, even recently, as much as four or
five years ago, out of business that used to go
to Italy and you know I'd go there. I heard
someone talking about Potos earlier. Itly their road. The infrastructure

(01:06:04):
is fantastic, the trains and the walls, Carda which goes
through you know, the goes over valleys and through mountains,
but it's pretty rough. The road's pretty rough. But the
biggest point was my in law said that that move
here in a heartbeat. There's there's many things in Europe,
but it's great on the postcards, it's great on great

(01:06:25):
on the pictures, but you just don't get that sense
of freedom and and just easiness of living, and easiness
of talking to the person beside it, and just a
real as that British caple said, just a real easiness.
It just doesn't exist out in most other places.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Yeah, nicely, said Ryan. And as you mentioned from your
relatives from France as well, we're very very lucky here
that a lot of people and I think you know
it is the ones winging here is Kiwis that haven't
done much traveling around, so they don't get the concept
of how freaking lucky it is here to not have
too many people, to have all these gorgeous beaches. The

(01:07:01):
friendliness is quite high in relation to a lot of
you know, other countries. I mean France, for example. Lovely
country but pretty pretty tough.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I mean I would push back on that a
little bit. The lack of people here can be a
downside as well in terms of your entertainment options.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah that is true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yep, I reckon we could do with probably ten million people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
It's a good number. Yeah, we got room, We've got
space for it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Shove them in Stuart Island. Yeah, we'll be fine. Hey guys,
anyone that complains about life in New Zealand has sadly
never traveled the world to see how damn lucky we are.
There's a person that's agreeing with you, Tyler. I'm Japanese,
but I love New Zealand more than Japan. There are
good work circumstances, beautiful nature. Woman Oh yep, good woman
in Japan. I see woman a quality much better than

(01:07:46):
Japan and New Zealand, right because.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
The woman we've got good woman here in New Zealand,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
My kids love New Zealand as well. Come to New Zealand.
They're a woman.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Yeah, it's a good selling point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I'll tell you what. I wouldn't want to live in
a country with that woman.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
No, that would be it'll be horror show. I we
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call Edwards? How are you the after night?

Speaker 11 (01:08:10):
Hi?

Speaker 31 (01:08:11):
Hello, yep, I'm from the Philippines. I'm from the Philippines.
I'm migrated here nine years ago, I think. But before that,
I lived in Singapore for six years, Malaysia and Indonesia
for six years, and we visited New Zealand once and

(01:08:34):
fell in love with it. And now we're citizens in
New Zealand. And Yeah, people don't know what they're complaining about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
What do you like about New Zealand? What do you
like about New Zealand? Edwood?

Speaker 31 (01:08:48):
Oh, I work in the semiconductor industry that we're in.

Speaker 11 (01:08:53):
Uh.

Speaker 31 (01:08:53):
When in my work, even you're sleeping, you have to
answer calls and then wake up in the middle of
night and the night and go to the factory and
fix stuff. Here in New Zealand, it doesn't happen right,
So they respect early. Yeah, that work in life balance
is really good, and especially my company is quite good

(01:09:17):
with flexibility. So now I'm supposed to work eight to five,
eight thirty to five, but since my daughter needs to
go home now I can just tell my boss Oh yeah,
I kept may I pick up my daughter because I, uh,
she's not feeling or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I've got a question for you because I had
a good buddy and Toned and moved to Naden from
Malaysia and he's what he used to say to me
is it's so quiet. He goes, I like New Zealand,
but it's so quiet. How did you deal with that
side of things?

Speaker 31 (01:09:52):
Oh? I like it actually because yeah, I recently went
back to Singapore and even Malaysia and Singapore is connected.
It's like causing in countries.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:10:04):
So even at nighttime there are people's and the people
on the street like.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
That, yeah, middle of the night.

Speaker 27 (01:10:11):
Yeah. So yeah, I like the.

Speaker 31 (01:10:13):
Quiet and the greens here. Singapore is nice and everything,
but you cannot compare New Zealand with it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:10:23):
I haven't been to Austria. Like the sound of music things. Yeah,
if you drive from Auckland to Wellington, it's it feels
the same thing.

Speaker 23 (01:10:33):
It's like very.

Speaker 18 (01:10:34):
Green, very peaceful.

Speaker 23 (01:10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:10:37):
So I really love it here.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Edward, thank you so much for your for your call
the sticks to disagrees total bes. I've been to all
major countries from the UK to New York, Well that's
not a country, is it? To Hong Kong, to the USA,
to China? And New Zealand is definitely the worst backwards
and so is your show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Oh, thank you very much, rob backwards. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
is that such a bad thing if that is true?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Being backwards?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Yeah, it's just just a slower pace of life.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
So yeah, I'd like to think of us as show.
Is that the cutting edge forefront of me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
This country, this country, you know, slightly slower pace of life,
and that's what is appealing to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I married a Keywien, moved here from the UK. When
marriage broke up, I decided to stay here despite all
my family being in the UK, because it's so damn
good here and New Zealand is my home and has
been for thirty five years. Thank you, Steve, you're a
good man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Charles, you reckon, You're lucky to be here.

Speaker 23 (01:11:38):
Yes, we are so blessed. I cannot tell you living
on a farm in South Africa that every morning we
woke up we were so grateful that we hadn't been
robbed or murdered or raped or something like that. That
is something that we treasure very dearly of New Zealand.
People who haven't traveled or haven't lived in those environments,
haven't seen object poverty, abject crime the whole time, just

(01:12:02):
don't know how lucky they are. I mean, we're now
citizens and we're so grateful to be here. And I
think attitude is something that that people forget running water,
I mean, streets that are clean, pavements that are mode
electricity that works all the time. These are things people
take for granted. And you can criticize for standards. I
get that to keep the standard high, but be grateful

(01:12:24):
for what you have. That is, we're really so blessed
and so grateful to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Are you surprised how much winging there is from Kiwi's.

Speaker 23 (01:12:34):
I think it's because they just don't know any difference.
So's it's kind of like, you know, we're involved in
committees on schools and things and people will say they
want this or they're not happy about this or whatever,
and then I say to them politely, well why don't
you come and join the committee to make a difference.
And of course some people don't, but it's all about

(01:12:55):
what you can what you can do to your micro environment.
And that collectively makes up this great country.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call, Charles. Ask
what you ask, not what you your micro climate can
do for you, Ask what you can for your micro climate.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Yeah, we're leaning into JFK today and I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
No, I love that call from Charles. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Rob's come back and he said Singapore is cleaner and
more advanced than New Zealand and closer to to holiday
spots that take that. Come on, robys, We'll go to
Singapore then, mate, compare something stopping you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yeah? Absolutely, I mean then the United Singapore definitely fantastic place, beautiful, beautiful,
clean streets, but you might not like some parts of it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Exactly. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is eleven to three, the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
News Talks THEREB it is eight to three and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
This Texas says absolute rubbish from you guys. I've been
to forty countries. New Zealand ain't the most picturesque or
cheapest or the best culture. And that's from a Karen. Wow,
I'm not saying from our Karen, from someone called Carmen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
That was their actual name.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, I've lived in lived ten years in Europe and
all over Europe, and seventeen years in the US. Spent
a lot of time in Australia. I moved back to
New Zealand twenty seventeen. Greatest place in the world. It
has its problems, but so does everyone else. Send man,
that's the whole that's the whole point of it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Doesn't that exactly nicely? See it? And man, Cody, you
just spent some weeks traveling in the Middle East.

Speaker 27 (01:14:31):
Oh, I was away for work actually, But yeah, I
agree with you said everything caller that rang up. People
just need to experience other countries and then they'll probably
realize how good I've got it over here. I'll I
lived for a year and a half overseas in the
States and it wasn't too bad, but always just wanted
to get back to New Zealand. And I've traveled to
a lot of countries and I go to country school
works that aren't countries you generally travel too, so they're

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pretty rough. And we've got it pretty damn good here in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
What ways, What are the ways that stick out to
you when you come back to New Zealand that are
better than when you travel the places you travel.

Speaker 27 (01:15:04):
To, there are a lot of people that live overseas
that live probably in pretty rough years, but those biggest
he's like that, he's talking about the things for great
but it's a concrete jungle like you just you've got
the spacey you know, like space and obviously the poverty.
You don't really need to talk to much about that.
But I've been to a lot of the world countries,
even in the last few weeks.

Speaker 24 (01:15:22):
And.

Speaker 27 (01:15:24):
There's some pretty rough people living pretty rough out there. Yeah,
as soon as you're back in New Zee and you
realize he's I'm sure it's expensive, it's not. It's not
great in every way. Yeah, but I'd say, you know,
I've lived sorry, he probably spent two or three years overseas,
and that is nowhere that sticks out to me that
I'd rather live than here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Cody, what part of New Zealand do you live in.

Speaker 27 (01:15:45):
I'm from South and they grow up on a family
down there, but I live in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, because I mean that that's what this
couple that started this chat. This this British couple that
have moved here. They say access to nature and outdoor
activities is just like nothing they've ever seen before where
they come from. And that that's I mean, we take
that for granted. Say Auckland, for example, there are so
many beat here. Yeah, and and they're accessible. You can

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just go to a beautiful beach. Yeah, you know, and
we you know Singapore.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Is not like that, No it is. It's a massive
appeal for a lot of people, Cody. As you say,
around the world is that's a very difficult thing to
find in many other countries, and we don't realize how
luckily we are. I mean even mountains in the North
Island when it's not known for mountains, but four hours
away I can go and see in beautiful volcano there's
a skifield stool there. I mean, it's it's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
In Singapore. Try taking a couple of dogs and a
gun and heading out into the bush. Yeah yeah, get
yourself a pig, good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Yeah, maybe at the zoo. Cody, thank you very much,
make good to chat. We're going to carry this on
after three o'clock. So our e one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call if you are
a migrant to New Zealand. Why did you come here?
What do you find fantastic about it? Let's spread some
positivity because I think we've just got into this trap
of winging about how crap this country is and it's

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just not true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
And supplement requestion, is it time to start shaming the
Wines as being ignorant people that haven't seen the rest
of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Exactly a couple of texts up until the news. Good A, guys,
I am from South Africa and I'm so sick of
hearing New Zealanders winge about this country. I am so
fricking lucky to be able to call this place my
new home. You guys, as fred Dagg's here, don't know
how bloody lucky you are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Afternoon. I love New Zealand, moved here five years ago.
Being to thirty countries in New Zealand's by far the
most beautiful and friendly country I've been to. We're so
lucky over here. I'm from Mexico and my wife is
kiw lovely to be a tourist in Mexico, but different
when you are part of the system. Glacis that's from Gabrielle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Nice Hey and Rob's text back again as latest one is, Guys,
I didn't mean your show is backwards, but I have
to balance out all the positive advertising BS for you
promoting hard to believe so many just their own place
they come from with contempt like they endophobic. So he's
come around now, thank you, Rob, That's all we ask.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
He's kind of come around. You sort of come around.
Then he went circle background and went against us. But
love you text Rob, Yeah, and thank you so much
to everyone that listens to the show and communicates with us.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Keep them coming. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call if you want to
see in the text. Nine two ninety two is that number.
New Sport and weather coming up. You're listening to matt
and Tyler. Very very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Your new home are insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams Afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Very good afternoon to you. Having a great discussion. Are
we just a little bit whiny when it comes to
life here in New Zealand. There was a great story
out from the Telegram when the UK talked about the
process of moving to New Zealand from the UK, several
personal stories of couples who had made them move and
how much they adore this little country of ours.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
How can it be that migrants New Zealand talk so
so positively about our country as these two migrants said,
improve work, life balance and family times say for environment,
for raising children, friendly and inclusive local communities, access to
nature and outdoor activities, less daily stress compared to life
in the UK. How can call after call to the

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show and text after text from migrants to this country
is telling us how great it is compared to where
they've been and what they've seen. How can that be
the case? And yet we are winging and winging and
winging about our country. So who's wrong migrants to our
country or us? Are we have we forgotten how lucky

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we are?

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Just got to stop and smell the roses and go
back and ever listen to the last hour and stot
for that matter, and it will make you feel good
about living here in New Zealand. But love to hear
what you think about this O E one hundred eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
This Texas one hundred percent agree with that last caller.
Anyone body complaining about this country has obviously never worked
or lived overseas. Came here over thirty years ago, having
lived and worked in over thirteen countries. New Zealand will
always be a breath of fresh air. Harvin, Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Hello, Hello, nice to chat with you. So how old
are you? How old are you?

Speaker 32 (01:20:42):
Haven't, I'm eleven years old?

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Eleven years old? And where are your parents from?

Speaker 32 (01:20:48):
I'm my fans are from India?

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Is that your mum in the background? Hervin? Oh, Harvin,
I think we might the phone might have just cut out.
Are you still there?

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Haven, I'm here, Okay, Haven. How long have you been
in New Zealand?

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
For when I was?

Speaker 32 (01:21:09):
I was born in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Huh? And uh? Where are your parents from New Zealand?

Speaker 11 (01:21:16):
Originally no, my parents were not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Where were your parents from? Heaven?

Speaker 32 (01:21:24):
India?

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Okay? And do you like New Zealand?

Speaker 30 (01:21:30):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Do you like New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
Yes?

Speaker 32 (01:21:33):
I like New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Do your parents like New Zealand?

Speaker 32 (01:21:36):
Oh? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
What do they like about New Zealand? Heaven?

Speaker 32 (01:21:43):
They like that It's like there's lots of trees and
we can always go like we can always go to
like once we went to Carmandel and it was like
there was no no people there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah, we do that well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:22:03):
And the weather.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah, good weather, good beaches.

Speaker 27 (01:22:07):
Haven, Yes, and they're good people, good people.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Oh love your gorgeous Thank you so much for your call, Harvin,
appreciate it. Good people and sometimes not very many people.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Lots of trees, lots of tree, good beaches.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Corrimandel beautiful place.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah, and that is an interesting thing. Although I was
saying before that I think New Zealand could do with
some more people. And this person texted with me. A
lot of people said, how dare you, Matt. You'll ruin
this country if you have too many people here. You know,
I'm always saying on the show that that population decline
is a huge problem, and I think people would do
everything they can to have more children.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I've always saying this, but this person is one of
the few people that agrees with me. Guys, in my opinion,
we need a less a population of fifteen million to
get the revenue up to improve our country. That's from Craig. Yeah,
there's room for fifteen million here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Zat numbers sound pretty good to you fifteen million.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
But then again, Harvin, if he goes there and there's
there's no people there, and then if we get fifteen
million people, the places that you go with their very
few people there will become less exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call lovely to chat with you, Harvard. We'll be back
very shortly. But there's plenty of great texts coming through
on nine two ninety two as well. Very good afternoon,
shee thirteen past three, and we're talking about how awesome
New Zealanders. And we've had a lot of people hundreds
texts through who have migrated here saying we don't know

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how lucky we are.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Have you heard of Godwin's law?

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Or is that? Actually? Just tell me what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
I don't know right, Actually I'm paraphrasing here, but I
think it's basically that if you bring up Hitler in
a conversation, you basically lose. That's right, yeah, And also
that all conversations tend towards Hitler the longer they go
for yes arguments. So basically, if you invoke Hitler in
the conversation, then it's considered a lazy argument and you lose, right.
I think I want to start a law called Heath's Law,

(01:23:57):
and it's when you inject Trump into a conversation when
it's got absolutely nothing to do with Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
I see where you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Yeople are so sucked in and compressed by the black
hole that is the non stop lazy media coverage of Trump.
That and the and the sugar rush they get of
mentioning Trump, that they'll bring it into anything like this
takes to here. So what's your point? Trump supporters love
living in the States, their best country in the world.

(01:24:23):
People live all over the world. You know what has
Trump got to do with this goddamn conversation?

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Injecting Trump and the conversations that have absolutely nothing to
do with your meeting, you should immediately lose the argument.
And I'm talking about hates law.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
I like that law.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Don't inject Trump into conversations that has nothing to do
with Trump. Welcome to the show, Damien.

Speaker 33 (01:24:47):
You're from Malaysia originally, yes, hi, Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Yeah? How long have you been here?

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
Yeah yeah yeah, just under tree here. And I've actually
got two things to say. Yeah. So, first thing is
no countries that were perfect. Number One, I was a
flight defendant. So I've traveled quite a bit. Yeah uh
and yeah, well I haven't been in Europe or America,
but yeah uh and Malaysia being in number two. Yeah,

(01:25:19):
so yeah, it's the values, it's your subjective take on
a country. For example, you know, if food is you know,
street food is cheap there I can get in Malaysia,
I could get food for that two dollars street dollars
twenty four to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Yeah, but yeah, but you know there's a chance of
well it's not very clean. So yeah, that's that's so
my my take is would someone be willing to do
to do to pay to play a koremium? Yeah, you
know it's twenty dollars meal here?

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
And what did you what did you pick New Zealand
to come to?

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Damian lovely country, walks, creaming green, people of people are friendly.
And obviously it's not not every not not one hundred
percent true, but not always a hundred percent true, but
it's it's well, it's it's still psatively true. And the
second thing I would like to if you don't mind
me talking, this second thing I would like to bring

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up with Rob just now got Singapore. I mean, everyone
is very going. Well, I see, I see, I see
a pattern here. Everyone's very goot Singapore being the man Asian.
I think many of us work in Singapore. By the way,
four hundred thousand people cross the causeway from Malaysia Singapore
every morning and back. Yeah, that's the population of christ

(01:26:34):
Church crossing in and out every day. So and I've
got heaps of friends who've worked in Singapore and they say, yeah,
it's everything works. It's you're a tourist, Yeah, it's it's
it's probably yeah, probably heaven or Earth, but liven' there is.
Living there is is really really competitive. Now. The thing is,
the thing is being a tourist in their country versus

(01:26:56):
actually living there are two very very different things. Because
you know, you had a great time in Baal, your attire,
it doesn't mean that it's it's it's it's a great place.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
A lot of people, a lot of people have discovered that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And and and the other thing is
I've got friends from Singaporean friends. I've actually got a
friend a nurse couple from from Singapore achieved then they've
immigrated through Brema and because they have they have two children. Yeah,
they said, it's a much better pace to bring up
because you know, they go to the bush, they go

(01:27:28):
to London and every yeah, almost every every weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah, Now, Damon and I had a friend I haven't
talked to him for a while but called Omar that
was from Malaysia and he moved to Duned and he
was at university with me and he he what he said,
but he loved a lot of it. But he said
it was so quiet and there was so little going
on that he sort of got a wave of depression

(01:27:56):
because he was so used to you talk about the
street food. He was so used to all the activity,
and even though it was a little bit stressful, he
missed that and he kind of he said, it got
to him and eventually, you know, he loves Malaysia now again.
But did do you get any of that that that
the quiet quiet here is a lot to deal with.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
Is differently? I actually I actually ringe about that a
lot to my partners. To the social religion. Yeah, yeah,
because kl where I'm from, program for is it's double
the size of It's almost the size of London. It's
double the size of the population of New Zealand. Yeah,
and obviously yeah, that's one of my pain points. But

(01:28:38):
I try, and you know, I try and have some gratitude,
you know, like like so many people like I've got
friends who are very qualified and they want to stay on.
I don't consider myself very qualified, but you know I
I my partner was offered a job by her boss,
who's also a friend of ours.

Speaker 23 (01:28:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
I've been very spiritual and religious of the eight and yeah,
exercise and gratitude. So so yeah, I mean food through
all the wings there. I mean, especially the people who
say Singapore is you know, Singapore is incredible. If you
can go and reddit and you go on this this
subreddit r slash Singapore raw and r stash asked Singapore

(01:29:21):
and you can see you can see the amount of
Singapore is winging there. Well, yeah, because it's it's a
small it's a city state. One one one of one
of the thin points. Men Singaporees tell me they can't
have a place to escape to. It's not like imagine
if open was its own country at Papa to Albany
and that that's that's how big Singapore is. And you

(01:29:44):
you you anywhere outside it's the sea or it's too Malitia,
which you need a passport for so so so. So
if you could imagine that that that kind of situation
of Caen the Assam. Yeah, probably they they be like, yeah,
probably not they And and there are other things as well,
you know, like like the word pressure.

Speaker 32 (01:30:05):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
A friend of mine, she was an auditor in a
in a in a big four company in a war.
They had to work. It's very it's it's quite common
for them to stay up to past midnight in the
office and they don't even they don't even head back.

Speaker 33 (01:30:20):
They don't even hit home because the trains don't run
anymore after midnight. Right, Yeah, yeah, obviously your your mileage
ni very if you're an expat, you know you're coming,
you know, with your big guns. And then well, for
lack of a better word, you know we Asia, you
know we you know, many companies tend to white worship.

(01:30:41):
They say, oh, you know this this guy from this
man from museum and he's so yeah, yeah he's he
he can be CEO or what Yeah, probably that's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
Yeah. I've got one more thing, one more thing. I
followed this YouTuber who's Ouzzie actually, and he lives in Malaysia.
I won't say his name across but he but I
find people like that online a bit must meeting because
he was talking about his interview. We I think an
Aussie cup book, I need to move in the Asia,

(01:31:11):
or you know, just to stretch your dollar because they say,
you know what was in expensive? Hey, yeah, it's Ausie avenging,
do you know? And yeah? Yeah, if you've gone, if
you're going bad and you've gone to Australia for the
a bringing as much.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
As this, Yeah, that's an interesting one, isn't it. I
mean that's just the oldest adage in the book, isn't it.
The grass is always greener. Yeah, so wherever you are,
you think somewhere else is better.

Speaker 6 (01:31:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
But I have a friend that was born and grew
up in Singapore, and she was saying her brother wanted
to form a band, and so you can't. You have
to get a permit every an individual permit every time
you want to have a band practice. I mean I
think they wanted to that. You know, they were trying
to play some pretty horrific metal music. But Singapore is
you know, there's all trade offs, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Yep, certainly is one hundred and eighty ten eighty c
numbered call, take a few more calls. Next it's twenty
two past three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoon call. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZEDV.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
News Talk zed B. How beautiful is New Zealand. We
get a lot of New Zealanders here who wing and
say that this is a terrible country. It's all going wrong.
But over the last hour and a half we've had
so many calls and texts from people who have immigrated
yet saying we don't know how lucky we are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Love your show. Sister's text. I came here at forty
husband was forty five. No one migrates at that age.
From a land of milk and honey. Honey Malaysia. Girls
with five and ten, best decision ever, wonderful home to
bring up children, great family values. Twenty plus years later,
we're still working, happy, with a great work life balance.
Girls have grown up to be caring, competitor, responsible, hard worthing,

(01:32:48):
hard working health professionals. This is my home now and
has been for a long time. Grateful to be here. Bevana,
love that ah Neil you love New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Hey, hey guys, get a mate Kee wee.

Speaker 17 (01:33:03):
Born and bred in the King Country, in the King Country,
the good old King Country colony. Yeah, all these immigrants
must have must know, you know, they must have heard
Fred Dak song all those years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
We know how lucky we are.

Speaker 17 (01:33:16):
Yeah, yeah, oh, you know our country, our country is great.
So you know we've got all you know, we're one
of the richest countries in the world. We've got infrastructure,
we've got hot, cold running water, electros through, we've got cars,
we've got a hospital system. Anyone can get a helping
hand from the government in our country. We've got beautiful beaches.

(01:33:38):
We don't have that many people living here. The South
Island is such a vast expense, mountains, same in the
North Island. And it's just like I don't believe. I
can't believe people grizzle about our country. You know, in
this world there's over two billion people that still have
to cook with dumb and wood.

Speaker 28 (01:33:59):
Yeah yeah, get that through your heads.

Speaker 17 (01:34:02):
People, good about our country, you know. So yeah, hey mate,
I'm one hundred percent love it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Well well preached, Neil, what beautiful words from you. Yeah,
I'm standing on my feet. I've got I've got my
hand on my heart great New Zealand of they nail
turn those words that you just see it into our
national anthem. Yep man, that makes you feel proud of
the beautiful stuff, right, I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
We have time to chip to Phil. Yeah, we'll squeeze
fill and get a mate, get a tyler. How are
you very good? Now? Forgive us Phil, But we're a
bit short on time. So you you love New Zealand, mate,
I do.

Speaker 9 (01:34:39):
I was going to crack a funny for Matt there,
but since we haven't got time, because I was going
to say I love New Zealand because of long white
partnates and soil.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Line, don't trigger me with the yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
But no, but no, I do love.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
I love this country. I was born here, my father
was born here, but my granddad came from Northern Ireland
and my grandmother came from Glasgow. They went, they decided
to leave their countries and they stopped and Naussie for
a while and thought, no, no good there carrying on
to New zeal And.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
Thank god they did.

Speaker 9 (01:35:10):
I just what that last caller was saying was a
lot of what I was thinking as well. That's why
you know when people say like you've done it the
other day at third world country. I mean, what are
you talking about? Third world country? Exactly, mate, Yeah, And
I think I think there has been a sort of
mentality of creeping and that never used to be. And
I think we have become a slightly wingsy and I

(01:35:32):
don't know why, but because we used to be the
old can do attitude and I love the old Fred Dag.
So that's my anthem. Mate. We don't know how luck you are.
And I've never met anybody that's come from another country,
especially England and says god, I regret moving here.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
I absolutely hate it.

Speaker 9 (01:35:48):
I'm off back again. They've only been positive, you know,
and wanted to just glad they moved basically from their
own countries.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Spot on the go, Phil, thank you so much for
your cool great New Zealander.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Great New Zealand's Neil. Yeah, absolutely, and that's probably so's
free Dag. Yeah, fantastic New Zealander. That makes you feel
proud that era and a half. And man, oh man,
the amount of ticks we got through from people have
emigrated to here saying Kiwi's wake up. This is a
great country and love to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Yeah, And I agree, parsnips are just albino carrots. Yeah,
you keep the parsnate, keep the New Zealand love coming through, yep,
and keep the parsnate parsnip hate coming through, and then
you'll make me a happy man.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Love some parsnips. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Hi, Oh God, pump yes, kumera yes, potato yes, but
get that parsnip out of the roasting dish.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Yeah, horseradish. That's a topic from your Yeah, we talked
about roast yesterday. Anyway, coming up, we want to have
a chat about your house. Does your house have a
bit of a story to it? Have you ever purchased
a house because it had something cool about it? This
is on the back of the Jason Statham effect. Will
tell you what that is very shortly. Headlines with railing coming.

Speaker 11 (01:37:01):
Up, US talk savy headlines with blue bubble taxis it's
no trouble with a blue bubble. Unrest in the US
is spreading. Demonstrations are into their fourth day in LA
and a major protest is now mobilizing in Dallas, Texas,
blocking streets. CNN reports people are gathering to march in

(01:37:24):
cities stretching from Florida's Tampa to Massachusetts. One person's died
after a house fire on Upper Huts Taradua Street overnight.
The blaze isn't believed to be suspicious. Auckland Council's release
of updated property value show widespread falls that are worse
closer to the city center, where some lost value buy

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as much as fourteen percent. A plea for more support
in the classroom to back up last year's record two
point five percent growth in the workforce. A southerly flow
through Coronet Peak and the Remarkables last week has dropped
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travel posts reveal about each generation. You can see the
full column at in zid Herell Premium. Back to Matt
Eath and Tyler Adams, you.

Speaker 24 (01:38:16):
Really think you're ready for the field? I once used
to fibrillators on myself. I put shards of glass on
my figh. I've jumped from a high rice building using
only a raincoat as a parachute and broke both legs
upon landing. I've swallowed enough microchips and shut them back
out again to make a computer. This arm has been

(01:38:36):
ripped off completely and reattached with this arm an nather.

Speaker 30 (01:38:41):
That's possible medically.

Speaker 24 (01:38:43):
During the threat of an assassination attempt, I appeared convincingly
in front of Congress as a Barack Obama in blacknas.
That's not appropriate. I watched The Woman I Love get
tossed from a plane and hit by another plane mid air.
I drive a car off a freeway on top of
a train.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
While I was on fire, not the car. I was
on fire. The great Jason Statham from the twenty fifteen
comedy Spy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Such a good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Jason Statham, great man. Just blast out the same movie
over and over again, and I'm there for it. Beekeeper
was fantastic working Man. It's all the same movie. Always
sales The Transporters. Yeah, great crank movies, Meg one, Meg two,
not so.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Good, The working Man the latest one, fantastic actor. But
we are talking about what has been called the Jason
Statham effects. So Jason Statham's KEYW Crib sold for twenty
eight million dollars as part of a fifty six million
dollar deal. That's all the owners of two very expensive
Auckland Home swap keys and suburbs. So this four bedroom

(01:39:51):
trophy home in Auckland, which Statham famously rented while he
was filming The Meaghan Auckland was built by rich lista
Sharon Hunter and former Totonga mere tenB Palce. So twenty
eight million dollars. It is a heck of a lot
of money. And they are putting some of that twenty
eight million dollars because went above expectations, down to the
fact that Jason Statham, Hollywood superstar action hero rented out

(01:40:14):
that property for a long time while he was filming
The Meg.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
I mean, how much more you pay because Statham's been
in there. I mean, I love Statham and I've talked
to people that work with them on The Meg here
in New Zealand and said he was a great man,
lovely guy, always paid for drinks, fantastic human being. And
look he's pretty famous. Yeah, but you'd say he's he's
a he's an A list actor in a way, but

(01:40:39):
he's got a real super balist vibe about him.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
He certainly does.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
This movie is just keep getting being successful. The bee
Keeper was massive. Operation Fortune was another film I watched
with him. Recently Wrath of Man. They just keep they
just keep coming. Jason Stathan being Jason Statham. But that's
not the issue. I'll get bogged down and Jason Statham
chat if I'm not careful because I'm a big fan.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
But just to you, just to your question, how much
would you pay extra because Jason Statham stayed in a house?
I'd probably put an extra twenty k on on my offer,
would you?

Speaker 20 (01:41:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
I reckon about twenty k could be would be about
my Jesus was whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Twenty eight million minus twenty k was about twenty k
on there. But it does its interesting. So if you're
buying a house, does it interest you that the history
of the house and if there's been someone spectacular that's
owned it. Yeah, if there's someone spectacular, someone bad that's

(01:41:33):
owned it, or some amazing event that's happened to it,
has that led you? Has that led you to made
you more excited about buying the house? Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Have you got an amazing story from your house?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
There'd be a lot of people out there that would
have bought properties that were owned by very famous and
maybe not just New Zealanders, very famous people that own
that house before you, and I'd love to hear from
you on one hundred eighty ten eighty. And you're right,
Infamous is probably a bit of word because maybe they
weren't such good people. Maybe they did something that has
gone down in the annals of history is very bad

(01:42:05):
for this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
I was staying in the house the other day in
Edston and they were like, Sir Keith Holyoaks dayed the
night in that room. Wow, yeah, that is huge, And
I was like, how do I feel about that? And
what I found interesting was this two single beds, so
mister and missus Holyoak went sleeping in the same bed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Okay, So looking into that, I mean, would you pay
more for a house because Sir Keith Holyoak has looked
in it?

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Did you ended up staying in that room?

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
I didn't get given the holy Oak, Holyoaks, Holy Oaks
sweet rude. I didn't get given it. Yeah. But I
had some friends that had a stretch zephyr, a stretch
zephyr that they said the Queen had been in and
they paid extra for it because the queen had been
driven around dneat and in it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
That is cool, that is very cool. How much extra
did they pay for it?

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Got no idea. I was a kid at the time
when they told me. But I remember sitting in the
back seat and going, Wow, the queen has been in here.
That is huge, and so that was quite quite big
big for me. Yeah, I wait, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty. I once slept in the same bed as
Kate Middleton, did you She wasn't in it at the time,
That's unfortunate, but it was the same bed that she
had recently slept in.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Whereabouse was it? Whereabouts was this bed?

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Wasn't I snuck into the palace? Okay, No, no, it
was in. It was in, It was in Where was
it was in? Wisport?

Speaker 30 (01:43:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Good bed?

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
No it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Good hotel right, greymouth hiker, tacker, hoker taker.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Take a beach front hotel?

Speaker 6 (01:43:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Anyway, was it? Was it a queen the bed?

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
No, it was she was a princess. Damn it I
missed that joke? Was it a quick she's a princes?

Speaker 30 (01:43:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Yeah, yeah, good right. Anyway, we want to hear from
you if your house is as a story. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call love
to hear from you. If it's a bit of a
talking point, we want to hear about it. Twenty two
to four.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
I can't believe I missed that game, mister, damn it.
I won't be able sleep till I think.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
About the big stories, the big issues, the big trends
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Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Sa'd be afternoon. The phone lines are blowing up. Have
you got a house with a bit of a history,
but of a story to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
The state of effect they're calling it? Hey, guys, I
live in Moray. Brad Pitt flew over our house and
a helicopter. Does that increase the value of our house?

Speaker 20 (01:44:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
I mean does the counseil know about that? The cancel
evaluations have just come out. Yeah, if Brad Pitt's flowing
over the top, you won't be down by nine percent.
Your rates will still be at the same level.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Cutching to you what I've got to say.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Mirwaie, I should say not mervo as I said.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Judith, you've got a famous connection to a house.

Speaker 29 (01:44:35):
Yes, well it is famous, but I've forgotten the name
right Well, no, no, it is the famous cricketer.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Okay, describe the cricketer, see if we can pick them.

Speaker 29 (01:44:49):
No, no, no, goal of a primary in Stoke Nelson.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Yep.

Speaker 29 (01:44:59):
Okay. So I owned the property for eighteen years and
after I brought it the I who owned it, and
he brought a property behind me. He went by the
way that was the birthpay place of this cricketer.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Wow, okay, no, no, no, we need to know the
name us. It's not a great story.

Speaker 6 (01:45:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
If you don't, if you don't have the name, bless
you Judith Judor. But no, no, if you don't have
the name of the famous person, it's not a great.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
I'm trying to google that night now Stoke Nelson cricketer.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
But welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (01:45:36):
Hey, boys, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Very good?

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Greg good.

Speaker 16 (01:45:40):
I've got two words for you if you can identify.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
The police, right okay, freak freak off, freak off, freak off.
Did I get that right?

Speaker 8 (01:45:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Yeah, that's the words freak off. DIT's have a freak off? Oh,
freak off, get your freaking off.

Speaker 16 (01:46:00):
Come on, in the news, it's in the news.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Come on, what's in the news at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
It's hey on a didy party.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Yeah, he stayed next to the famous place for the
dody potties exactly right.

Speaker 16 (01:46:16):
So you know, if I was buying that one, Tyler,
not only would I take twenty grand off, but I'd
probably change all the toilet seat.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
They definitely want to check that the cameras went store operation.

Speaker 16 (01:46:29):
I don't think you could get that place clean with
a full met cleansing man.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
The amount of uh lubricant that they took out of that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
House, Matt, you know you had to take it there, Matt,
really exhibit It's.

Speaker 16 (01:46:43):
I traveled in different circles back in the day, and
I stayed next door to it, not there. I hadn't
been to a party over there or anything. I've met
him actually a couple of times socially.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
Socially, yeah, especially and he never invited you to a
dooty partty to a frequently.

Speaker 16 (01:46:57):
I no, no, you know, really different circles, different crowds,
that type of thing.

Speaker 24 (01:47:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Yeah, you guys are both the list, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
as a egg, if you were called to the witness stand,
you know is is he did he do it?

Speaker 16 (01:47:13):
I signed nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
You're a good neighbor.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
You saw nothing from next door. You didn't see Russell
Brand or Jonah Hill or Austin Kutscher or Debbie Moore
or Amber Rose heading in there? Who else was in
the Alenix Lewis was there at some point? Wasn't here?

Speaker 30 (01:47:30):
Mary J.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Blige apparently Reytha Franklin was partying in one of those
Diddy parties at one point.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Wow, she was going hard in later life.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
R E s p et scene. I can't even spell respect.
All right, that's a great one, Michael, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 28 (01:47:44):
Yeah, hey boys, this is a bit of a freaky
one for you. So I own more Sure demolition and
we demolished a house about fifteen years ago. I was
going to tell you the suburbs, but I won't now
it was up here in Auckland. So we didn't have accidents.
You know, we've been doing demolition for years and every
single staff member had an accident, including quite a bad cut.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Fatada spooky.

Speaker 28 (01:48:06):
He finished the demolition and an old boy came past
and said, of you know, that house is gone. It's
got a history. Somebody was murdered there, and I went back.
Us happened to go back and went past it. After
cyclone Gabriel and the house the new house that was
built was destroyed by the cliff based chop on the house.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Right.

Speaker 28 (01:48:27):
Wow, So so yeah, the four odd house. Man's something
really pretty scary about that side.

Speaker 5 (01:48:35):
You've been rebuilt.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Again, You've got it. What was so what was the
what was the actual situation in the house before that
makes you think that led to these injuries? And then
it pink destroyed.

Speaker 28 (01:48:46):
Look, you know, we demolished a lot of houses and
you go through them and some give you good vibes
and some give you bad vibes. But this house gave
us some bad vibes right from the word go. I said,
every single staff member had an accident, and we did
not have accidents.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
That is spooky. So, Michael, you didn't actually know what
happened there. You suspect there was something nefurious that went on,
but you're not sure.

Speaker 28 (01:49:06):
Oh an old boy went past and said you said
to us and said, oh, somebody was murdered in the
house years and years ago, and they kind of all
kind of came into place. But yeah, it was a
pretty freaky job.

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
I'll tell you the exorcist, doesn't it. Yeah, Michael, thank
you very much for your call.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Yeah, bad, bad, jujo of the house.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Yeah, well that's not the Statham effect though, is it.

Speaker 30 (01:49:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
So I don't know if you'd pay any more for that,
would you?

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Yeah? I mean when Statham stayed at your house, it
doesn't cause injuries for demolition people or caused the house
to fall down, you know, as far as I know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Yeah, Beverly, Hi, guys, how are you very good?

Speaker 15 (01:49:46):
Okay?

Speaker 27 (01:49:46):
Oh do you want my story please?

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (01:49:49):
About twenty five years ago we sold a house in
roal Matty, which is down sort of round power Friends,
north of Orlington. And after we'd sold the house a
couple of weeks stay so that new owners wrang us
up and said I've left a briefcase behind and found
it under some something in the water. Anyway, so they
said come back and you know, collect it. And they

(01:50:11):
invited me into the house. And when I walked into
the lounge, the first thing I noticed was a bast
sitting on one of the shelves.

Speaker 11 (01:50:21):
Award a batht award.

Speaker 15 (01:50:24):
And I noticed that and I said, is that real?
And they said, oh yes, yes, it's very well and
they let me hold it. It was really heavy, it
was extremely heavy, so of course I asked, you know,
how did you written the Beafter Award? And they said, well,
it wasn't actually us. Our son who was? His name
is Andrew Nicholl. He wrote The Truman Show Jim Carrey.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Yeah, very famous Andrew Nicchol.

Speaker 15 (01:50:48):
Yes, yes, yeah, his parents bought our house.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
He was a New Zealand screenwriter, wasn't he Andrew Nicchol?
That's right, Yes he was.

Speaker 32 (01:50:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
And he also wrote Gaddagher, which is a movie I enjoy.
And he's written quite a few movies, isn't he? How good?

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
How cool?

Speaker 15 (01:51:04):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
So he thought he won that that bafter for yeah,
for that for the Best Original Screenplay.

Speaker 15 (01:51:13):
Of the Truman Show. Yes, gifted to his parents.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Right, So do you think that do you think the
value of that house should go up because it's had
a baster award running screen right, especially a great movie
like the Truman Show.

Speaker 15 (01:51:26):
Oh, I know, maybe we should have. They just should
have disclosed that, and I'm putting them their offer. We
could have got more for the place.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
It's pretty cool getting to hold it as well, Beverly.
You know, not too many people get to do that.

Speaker 15 (01:51:40):
No, No, and I was quite surprised. It's just the
weight of the thing. It was really heavy.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
He also wrote The Terminal, which was at that Tom
Tom Hanks Steven Spielberg movie as well.

Speaker 15 (01:51:51):
So I've got another quick story about about Tom Hanks.
Very very quickly. My husband, who was an airline pilot
for a New Zealand, was in New York just recently
and met Sully.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Met who Sully, the real Sully, the s.

Speaker 15 (01:52:14):
In the Hudson River.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
Yes, and how was he was he?

Speaker 23 (01:52:16):
Call?

Speaker 15 (01:52:18):
He Glen said. He was extremely gentle and polite and
quiet in his demeanor.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
That's so interesting. It's so interesting Sully because he's been
played by Tom Hanks. You kind of when you think
of Sully now and then the Sully movie, when you
think of the face of Sully, you think of Tom Henck.

Speaker 15 (01:52:39):
Think of Tom Henks.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
So who was it that met Sully? Was it your son?
Did you say?

Speaker 15 (01:52:44):
No, my husband?

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Your husband? So he recognized but he recognized the real Sully.

Speaker 15 (01:52:49):
No, he didn't actually recognize that. A lady that Sally's
wife recognized the pilot because my husband's a pilot. And
they went up to the pilots because they were taking
the there was four of them, and they him and
his wife were talking and saying, oh, they must be
going Long Hall because there's four pilots. Wonder where they're going.
And so they approached my husband, where are you guys

(01:53:10):
heading off to? And then the conversation started from there
and my husband was like, sorry, you are Sully? I
am he They had a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
How good it's good good to hear that he was
a good guy, Sually, I'll be terrible to hear that
he was any. The miracle on the on the Hudson
in that in that movie was that Sully was not gray.
He had had dark hair right through and still to
this day. But for some reason, for some reason, Tom
Hanks decided to run with a gray hair to be Sully.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
It worked for him, didn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
I don't know. I don't know why, but that that
reminds me of you know the statue of William Wallace
that was erected in Scotland, but it was a statue
of mel Gibson and William Wallace. Yeah, I mean he
played the Hell if the movie's famous enough, then your
your face will be replaced in history by the actor
that plays you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Right, That is where we'll leave it, I think, but
think he's so much some great texts coming through. We're
gonna have to bring this up another day because so
many people wanted to have a chat, but we've got
to play some messages.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
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Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
Couple of texts on this One's been a great discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
In the UK. The then Prince Charles came round to
our house. He rode his horse on my father's land
and chose our house as it had an enclosed yard.
He stayed for a couple of hours, got changed in
one of the bedrooms, had a glass of whiskey with
my mother, and then went on his way. Good do
you go see that would increase the valley of your house.
If Prince Charles's pested around with him whiskey coming around

(01:54:52):
with his horse, that's got to have the Jason stath
And effect on your house.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
And this one says guys lived over the back fence
from Jeff Wilson family while he lived there, and in
the cargo he was an all black at the time.
I'm about the same age as him. Older female friends
wanted me to jump the fence and steal his underwear.
That thought grossed me out, did it anyway? Well, Goldie's underwear.
That's worth something I made up there last part. She
didn't still the underwear.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Oh okay. So I worked for Andrew Nicol at an
ad agency in the eighties. He snogged me on the
way home after a staff bunny. Oh maybe I shouldn't
read that one out. Certainly it's very talented New Zealander
written some great movies.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Yep, absolutely right, that is us for today.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
Yeah, thank you to all your great New Zealanders for
listening to the show. Thanks so much for your calls
and text. We've had a great time chatting with you.
I hope you have too. The met entire Afternoons podcast
will be out and about now, So if you missed
our chats on the organized crime and corruption in New Zealand,
or British migrants showing us how to love our country
and stop winging, or the Jason Statham Effect, set our

(01:55:52):
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Sir Paul Holmes broadcast over the year and KFC fan
here the dupe to see Allen is up next for
right now?

Speaker 30 (01:56:01):
Tyler?

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Why am I playing the song?

Speaker 27 (01:56:03):
Oh mate?

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
We don't know how lucky we are in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
There you go, the great friend Egg, There go wherever
you are, whatever you're doing until tomorrow, IVO give him
my taste that key.

Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
We love you.

Speaker 30 (01:56:20):
We don't know how lucky we are.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
We just don't realize how forty we are.

Speaker 25 (01:56:26):
We have the other idea of luck because yes, collectively,
we just don't know how lucky.

Speaker 16 (01:56:32):
We all are.

Speaker 30 (01:56:33):
Be full stop.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
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