Full Show Podcast: 12 December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
How Are You Great? New Zealand's Welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show podcast the number two six three for
the twelfth of December, a Friday. Boy, it was a
feel good show today as we celebrated some fantastic New
Zealand businesses and we talk about the concept of boy. Sorry,
I've just been slamming some of the treats.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
We're not That was nice to Quiller by the way.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, we're not at the Christmas party that everyone else
is because we're on air. Yeah, but there were some
treats that were out in the office and one of
them just repeated on me into the microphone.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Soues it a bit of cam and beer that I
can smell. Yeah, but it can be.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
A bit of vodka right then. So, yeah, it was
a great show today. So we as I was saying, yeah,
we lean into the idea of buying New Zealand made
Christmas presents, so then you give not only a gift
you love one, but also to a local business in
the New zeal economy.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It was good stuff. If you if you've left it
till the last minutes, make sure you listen to that
because there was some good key weeks there. But download,
subscribe and give us a review and give my.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Taste to care of you, all right, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Love you big stories, the big issues, the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Me, very good afternoon to you. Welcome into today's show.
I hope you're having a great Friday afternoon where heavy
you're listening. I am, yeah, me too, me too. You
love a god for love of Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I do love a Friday. But look, how do I
put this? There's the inn zidme Christmas party, the wider
company that we work for, yes here at Newstalk z B,
and they're having their Christmas party. And do you know
when they're having their Christmas party? Tell us between now
and four o'clock, which is the exact time we're on here, Tyler.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean? It feels deliberate, doesn't It feels very deliberate.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It feels pointed. Yeah, it feels like after some of
your behave if you're in some of my behavior at
previous Christmas parties. They've decided to just take the nuclear
option and make it impossible for us to be there.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I think that's a strange sensible strategy for this organization,
considering you know, we heard about the pole dancing yesterday. Yeah,
and you had a good time. Everyone else had a
good time. But I think HR has just said they're
too risky, too risky.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
But how do they know that we don't have a
bottle of tequila under the bench here in the my
Costing Memorial studio, and that we're not just gonna hit
the kick ons at pace?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah exactly. Well, if they did know, then there's nobody
around so to do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
So in that case, I will say categorically, we do
not have a bottle of tequila under the desk here
and a couple of shot glasses.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
We do not know.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
We do not have that.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So if you're listening HR, which you won't, be rest
assured we will remain sober for the rest of the show.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
We're the only ones in the building, so basically we
can do whatever we want.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Good times right to today's show. It is a doozy
for you, as it always is after three o'clock. It
is a Friday. It's the moment the nation waits for
new Zealander of the week.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, who will it be? Have you got some suggestions?
Fire them through on nine to nine two. It's the
most popular part of the show. That along with me
leaving my phone on so you can hear it dinging
all the time.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yep, that's a winner as well.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
If you want to applause that, I'll just turn that off. Yeah,
So looking forward to that. And also after three o'clock
we won't ever a chat about portion sizes. So it's
research that's come out of the UK. But nutritionis here
are jumping on board. Some food outlets have been supersizing
portion sizes rather and they're saying it would be it
would be good to go back to smaller amounts across

(03:52):
the board.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
The question here though, is, and it's a bit of
a catch twenty two because we're not wanting to turn
into fat bustards. But at the same time, when we
go out for dinner, when we're spending forty two fifty
just to make up a number on a Maine, we
don't want to have the diet maine. We won't have
the value for money.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, So what do you do there?

Speaker 5 (04:10):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Are they just going to are they going to halve
the size and half the cost?

Speaker 7 (04:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, No, it's still the same price but less food.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Are you happy with that? Well, you're you're a chronic
doggie bagger, though, aren't you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm a massive doggy bagger. So I love it when
it's a plate just just staged right to the top,
like a pyramid that even if I can't get through it,
and I'll try, I will try. I'm still taking home
in a doggy bag. But you refuse. You hate doggy bag.
You think it's cheap, uncouth. Yeah, it's on key.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
We there's something about it I don't like. I'm not
sure I haven't really formulated my anti doggy bag argument
enough yet. When my partner starts packing everything up, when
she takes about seven chips, when she takes about seven
fries and asks for a bag, that's when I that's
when I pushed back.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I saw the photos. The chips did look good. But
that is half to three o'clock. After two o'clock, we
want to talk about Christmas gifts, but specific type of
Christmas cuffs because it is that time of year of course,
people raising full noise to sort out the presence before
the big day arrives. But how many of us are
actually thinking to be a bit mindful on what we're
choosing and make sure if we can, that we're going

(05:15):
for New Zealand made Christmas gifts.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's right. So if you get your Christmas gifts off
Amazon or something completely evil like Temu, then you know
you may be getting a gift for someone, but you're
not getting a gift for the economy. But if you
buy a New Zealand made gift, you're not only giving
a gift to the person you love, You're giving a
gift to the New Zealand manufacturer, someone potentially in your
local community, and you're also giving a gift to the economy. Yeah,

(05:40):
so let's talk about examples of great New Zealand Christmas
gifts you can get for people if you can possibly
And I've got one that I'll share that I think
is a fantastic New Zealand manufacturer that I'm buying heavily
fone for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
How good that is? After two o'clock, Curvez, Right now,
let's have a chat about the suggestion from Brad Olsen.
So as we know the government announced earlier this month
that was planning to introduce a targeted cap for council
rates so they don't spend too much and that rate
payers have a bit more money in their pocket. But
in for Metrics, chief economist Brad Olson said there was
a certain irony about that idea. Here's the quote. It

(06:16):
seems like, if it's good enough for the government to
cap rates for local government, why isn't it good enough
for them to cap rates on our taxes.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, it does seem a little bit hypocritical. So they're saying, look,
you spend within your means, you can only go up
to between two and four percent. But we don't have
such limitations on us. So if it is possible to
bring in efficiencies and not spend money on the stupid stuff,
the silly stuff as the government saying for the councils,
surely the government can do the same thing. Yeah. Do
you believe this is possible? Do you believe this is

(06:48):
a realistic idea? Do you think lower tax across rates
and taxes and central government taxes will force the spenders
to spend within their means and become more efficient or
it just means that they'll cut core services. Is efficiency
bad enough that they could do everything sense and still

(07:10):
get everything done?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? To cool?
Love to hear your thoughts on this. If it's okay
to keep the rates on councils, should they be capping
the taxes as well? Nine two nine two is that text?
And coming up very shortly, we will have a chat
to Brad Olsen who suggested this idea. So we've got
plenty of questions for him coming up next. So you've
got a question for Brad ninet two nine two is

(07:32):
that text?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's interesting he doesn't have a sort of an equation
on there, and we'll ask him about it. About you
know this, I thought this was interesting. A typical dual
income household pays about thirty nine thousand in tax and
that's before you even shove GST on top of that.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, it's a lot. And then when you look at
how much you on average paid to local government rates,
three thousand, eight hundred, So that's a big that's ten
times more.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So the informentials calculator the average tax bill of a
household with two median income earners earning seventy one, seven
hundred and sixty each people tax they pay thirty nine
thousand to the government and around thirteen thousand, seven hundred
fIF the in cap and tax performance. That is seventeen
at plus eleven thousand in GSTEAH and then about three thousand,

(08:16):
eight hundred in local government rates.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Very interesting, So keen on your views O eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is that number in coming up next?
Brad Olson? It's fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Be very good afternoon, sixteen past one. So a leading
economist says it's galling to see the government planning a
rates cap for councils when it's when it is imposing
no restraints on its own taxes. That man is Brad Olson,
Info Metric CEO and chief economist, and he joins us
now Brad good a good afternoon, book team.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
What core economic problem do you see in the universal
two to four percent rates cap? And is it hypocritical
of central government to cap rates while not capping tax rises?

Speaker 8 (09:03):
Well, I certainly think it's hypocritical. The worry is well,
in a sense, is that And look, let's be very
clear at the outset. I think that the rates increases
you've seen in the last couple of years have been
incredibly hard for people to stomach, and we're desperately to
get them under control. But I'm worried that if you
impose this very artificial cap that doesn't recognize it. There's
a whole lot of differences in what councils do and

(09:24):
the types of inflation that they suffer. You're going to
get back to where Wellington was a couple of years ago,
where we don't invest enough in the right stuff. All
of a sudden, you've either got poo running down the streets,
you've got roads that are broken up, you've got rubbish
that doesn't get picked up. I mean, that's sort of
what some councils around the country are saying if they
aren't able to sort of recover those costs, which have
been increasing faster than households than they are in a

(09:45):
compromised position. But the point around consistency, that's the one
that gets me. Like, we spend a lot of time
talking about rates, and I get it it's important. But
you know, when you're spending about ten times more on
taxes a year and no one ever sends you a
bill for that. Most people couldn't name their taxes yet
when they've increased time and time again, you're giving more
money to the government and they're not taxing, you know,

(10:06):
capping taxes anytime soon. It seems to be that we're
spending a lot of time on ten percent of the
money and we're completely fine with the fairly large increases
in tax on the other ninety percent.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So infor Metrix is calculated the average tax bill of
a household with two median income earners earning seventy one
thousand dollars a year seventy two thousand dollars basically each
before tax, so they would pay thirty nine thousand dollars
to the government around thirteen seven and fifteen income tax
per person plus eleven thousand, six hundred GST, whereas about

(10:38):
three thy eight hundred in rates. There's more tax than that, though,
isn't there There's more tax from the government than just
income tax and GST.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Yes, I mean there's a whole lot of other things.
Is of course, your your corporate tax which is a
tax on profits that businesses are making. There's also a
lot of other let's call them government revenue. They might
not strictly be taxes, but they almost are. You know,
all of the money that's collected in terms of fuel
taxes or you know, fuel excise duty or the other
sort of you know, various fees that you have to pay.

(11:09):
You've got a registration for your car, You've got a
whole lot of other service fees that you have to pay.
So the point there was less, you know, around the
fact that you know, rates aren't nothing. Rates are still important,
but by goodness, you know, at thirty nine K a
year in taxes that you're paying, the amount of effort
and time that we spend on rates compared to taxes,

(11:30):
like I mean, let's be real. You think about you know,
an average council who every year has to spend probably
one hundred thousand dollars or so to go out to
the community consult on what the plan is for spending
that three thy eight hundred dollars per average household. They've
got to go through all the line items they've got
to decide. If you know, Rhode X y Z gets
some potholes filled or that, Whereas I don't know about

(11:50):
you guys, and the government doesn't normally ask me every
year if I'm happy to spend whatever they are doing
in the budget, like it just happens, it gets passed
in the House and I just sort of got to
take it, and that's fine. But I'm sort of like, look,
if it's good enough to try and cap what local
government's doing, surely if central government was worried about wastefill,
spind and everything else like it says, it would equally
apply that lens to itself. What's good for local government

(12:14):
surely got to be good enough full government itself.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
But that three thy eight hundred to councils isn't the
end of it either, though, is it? Because you know,
I just had to register my dog again. I've got
a bunch of consents that I'm having to get sorted
out with the council for a renovation on my house.
So that they're picking us outside of their rates as well,
aren't they? Brat they are?

Speaker 8 (12:34):
But I can tell you right now having run those figures,
that they are not nearly as much as still that
bigger tax bill. But yes, you're right, the difficulty in
the challenge that we often find in the local government space.
And again, having looked at this in detail, is that
a lot of those what we call user charges that
you have, you know, let's call it, you know, your rubbish,
your dog fee, your alcohol license if you're trying to
set up a bar or a pub or something, not

(12:57):
all of those are full cost recovery. So it might
well cost you know, a council, I don't know, let's
say one thousand dollars for you know, doing all of
the alcohol processing for a new bar, but the license
fee that might only be say five six hundred dollars.
And that's because the rest of the money comes from
general rates. The idea there being that, hey, it's probably
good for the community to have these different amenities.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
To have you know, good order around dogs, to have
a good order around.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Alcohol, and so there's a little bit of sort of everyone.

Speaker 8 (13:23):
Has to pitch in, which is where the rates money
comes from. But again I guess that you've looked at
you've probably seen some of the stories recently around the
changes that are coming from rates capping and what it
might mean. There are genuinely some councils now that are going, well,
look we'd have to close the pools entirely, or we'd
just not be able to register dogs for an entire year,
or we wouldn't be able to do these building consents

(13:44):
like the challenge I see with the rates capping, and potentially, look,
this might be a silver lining. Communities are going to
have to say, look, yes we're going to get lower
rates increases, but we're also not going to get nearly
as much as what we got before from our council.
At some point, something's got to give, you know, Is
it that your booms don't get mode?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Is that your dog doesn't get registered?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Are people willing to give up our booms don't get mode?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, burm Pride. People should do that themselves. But it's
a fair point brand and you mentioned here that and
you're quite right that central government over time has continue
to push more and more on to local government to
make them responsible for those things. I mean, is that
a cheeky way of government making counsels the villain here
that they say, right now you're responsibility to do that.
We don't know how you're going to pay for it,
probably through rates, and your residents will hate you for that.

(14:27):
But it's your problem now. So it's kind of a
bit of an underhanded way for the central government to
escape that fury from texpayers. It does seem to be
a little bit of a you know, good, good luck,
off you go sort of message.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
Again.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
I mean, you look at where the where do you
go when there are challenges in the local community. It's
pretty easy to go and you know, talk to your
mayor or complain to your mayor or counselor not often
do you go. You know what, I've got real issues
with my consent. I'm going to go to my MP
to start with. So look, it is I think a
bit more of a focus on councils. But here's the
real kicker for me is that for all the talk

(15:00):
of the rates capping and some of it's come through,
of course that doesn't affect central government at all because
it doesn't pay rates on most of the land that
it has. I'm sort of saying, well, look, off you go,
you go, and you have to have this rates capping
discussion with your community, and you're not going to have
nearly as much. You're going to have no additional money
from central government for all of these RMA changes and
similar that are coming through all of the reorganization plans

(15:22):
that have got to be established, someone's got to pay
for that time. But also we're going to limit how
much you can earn from your community, which again I
understand the cost living pressures, but also we're not going
to pay rates of central government.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I mean very much.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Does seem to be will you do more with less?
And also we're not willing to pitch anything ourselves. There's
no money that comes from central government to pay for
a lot of this stuff, which all I'm saying is that, look,
this might be an important change that comes through with
rates capping, but by goodness, the overseas evidence really does
suggest it. In time, you start to see some pretty
wicked challenges where counselors are saying, look, I don't have

(15:55):
enough money for that bridge, I don't have enough money
for this project. Now what are we giving up because
some stuff is going to start to crumble.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well, they can give up their alcohol licensing work if
you ask me. We're talking about Informentric's chief economist Brad Olsen.
But surely we should asking all forms of governments to
live within government, to live within their means, like we
have to do as citizens exactly, and this is.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
Why next week the Finance Minister will provide an update
alongside the Treasury with the half yearly Economic and Fiscal Update,
telling us sort of how the government finances are at
a central level. Of course, the challenge there is that
when you look at spending activity by central government compared
to how much that earning, we're still going to be
in deficit. We're still going to as a government be
spending more money than we're earning out until about twenty

(16:38):
thirty or so. So put it this way, if you've
got concerns about things at the moment, you've got a
few options. Either you raise taxes or rates depending on
if you're a council or a government, you stop spending
quite as much, or you load that up on debt.
At the moment central government is loading up on debts
relative to the other two. Yes, there's been spending cutbacks
and similarly there haven't been changes in taxes effectively, though

(17:03):
again there's a real challenge here over how you pay
for this stuff. Here's one step that always blows my
mind on just how challenging it is for some of
the pressures that are in the infrastructure space.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
We know that household inflation.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
Has gone up a lot over time. We talk about
mints and butter quite a bit, sort of cumulative household
inflations up around thirty percent or so over the last
five years. You look at though, some of the stuff
that councils spend on. If you want to build a
bridge today, it's cost you forty percent more than what
it was back in twenty nineteen. Same bridge, same concrete,
same steel, and everything else, but now costing forty percent more.

(17:37):
It's those sort of bigger gains over time that do
start to hit just how much money central government local
government rather is having to spend. They're having to put
a lot of money into big infstructure projects, and either
that has to be paid for from rates or from debt,
and what do you use How do you repay the debt?
Of course that comes from rates money eventually, so it
is an awful cycle, but it is a real challenge
around that infrastructure investment over time.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So what alternative funding model would actually work? Because we
can't have councils just up in rates fifteen percent a
year so they can do all all their vanity projects
or ideologically driven projects that annoy all of us, there
has to be some limit to what they're putting up
and some efficiency needs to come in.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Right certainly, And I think on the efficiency point, I
mean the two biggest areas where I think you're going
to see some gains over time are around the likes
of transport and water infrastructure. The councils combine and spend
About sixty percent of the total increase in spending over
the last three to four years has been in those
two categories alone. So if you do something on that,
if you stop having these massive cost blowouts on projects,

(18:40):
if you can get some of the consenting delays moved along,
maybe if you don't have to put out so many
road cones, if a bit more of this work is streamlined,
so instead of every council saying, you know what, I'm
going to go and try and upgrade my wastewater treatment
plant when all the other sixty councils around the country
are doing so, what does that generally do to the
cost of things? Will It pushes them up? So a

(19:00):
lot of that streamlining, a lot of that sort of
planning could be done better. I think though as well,
there are things that more practically could supp hot councils.
Either local government, sorry, central government could pay local government
for the land that it owns, pay rates on the
stuff like everyone else does.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Or you could see the likes of GST on rates
or GST.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
On building consents for example, that go back to local
government at the moment. Again, you pay your local council
for a building consent, and fifteen percent on top of
that then goes to central government just into the general
slash fund that gets spent on whatever. If you instead
put that back to local councils, that would start to
make a bit of a difference in terms of how
much money they have. I think we calculated at one

(19:41):
point that'd be something like a billion dollars, So that
would require central government to give up something. But again,
if we're talking about waste and pressures in government in general,
I think there's still efficiencies to be made across the board.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
Brad.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's a compelling argument and the text machine is absolutely
blowing up. So we're looking forward to what our listeners
have to say. But really appreciate you coming on mate, hey,
and if we don't catch up before the end of
the year, very merry Christmas to you, mate. Appreciate you
coming on various times this year.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Same to you and looking forward to catching up in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Go well, that is Brad Olsen, chief economist and CEO
of Informetrics. Phone lines are opened up by eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. How do you feel about his
argument that if a rates kept for councils okay, then
we need a cap on taxes. It is twenty eight
past one.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking
breakfast timary principles.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Payofer has been rejected.

Speaker 11 (20:32):
Robin Brown is the principle of Birtuville School and a
member of the NZI negotiating team. You've been offered up
to twenty one thousand dollars plus four point six percent,
but you still want another fifteen on top of that.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
What we want is recognition for the unsustainable workload and
curriculum upheable.

Speaker 11 (20:47):
If they say to you we give you fifteen thousand dollars,
we will take the offer.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
We will take that offer out to our principles and
see whether they would take that off.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Robin, that's a lot of money.

Speaker 11 (20:55):
You guys are basically asking for an increase of thirty
six thousand dollars plus four point six percent.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
No one else gets that kind of money either.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Dupusl on the Mic Hosking Breakfast Back Monday from six
am with the Defender NEWSG to two.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Diane, how are you?

Speaker 12 (21:12):
Oh, not too bad toke?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's the story. Now what are you reckon about? Council
caps on the rates and the idea of.

Speaker 12 (21:21):
That they've kept the rates. I think that needed to
become because you know what these super annuent pensions they're
not weren't they weren't keeping pace what we get for
a person on their own.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So what needs to go? Diane? What do they need
to cut?

Speaker 13 (21:41):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (21:41):
What do they need to cut? Well, they need to
cut out their fresh coffees and cream cakes and doughnuts
and things like that. And they probably need to cut
out some staff and running around and the officers and
may not need they need to look at that. And

(22:02):
also you know have it you know, council meetings they
have evening evening kappas and whatever they whatever else they have.
You know, like that's where I need to think that
they need to cut it.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
No more free lunches for the councilors fair enough to
a nd. It's pretty igh spread in some councils. I've
got to say, beg my TM as a journal, they've
got some lovely sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Is a few cups of coffee and some cream donuts
is going to be enough of a cut.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
We might need to do more than that, but Diane,
thank you very much for your call, taking yours on
O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty headlines with ray
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Speaker 3 (23:54):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about
an article by Brad Olsen, or at least a quote
from Brad where he mentions he sees a sutain irony
in the government forcing councils to have a rates cap
while not having their own cap on how much they
text us.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I can't deal with this issue right now, Tyler. We've
got a reno happening in my house. I can hear
there was a lot going on in your life, mate,
and the new floring's being put in and then they've
cut into the electricity and now they are electricity is gone.
We need to get an electrician.

Speaker 14 (24:21):
You know you kidding me.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
I've got bad mate. I knew you were stress. It
so outed stress.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I've got a lot to deal with here.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
But you are laughing at the end of that phone call.
There's got hopefully it gets ort of mate.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Now you've got to laugh and things like that happened.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
You certainly do. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call Greg wack On to the show.

Speaker 15 (24:36):
Here you going boys, Yeah, good, Hey. I live in Hamilton,
and in Hamilton he's starting last year we have got
a ninety seven percent rate increase over five years. That's
it's crazy. Was twenty percent last year's fifteen percent of
this year. It's fifteen something, right, And I wrote every

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single councilor even the new council, and I've only had
one response from anybody. And I lined up some of
the candidates and said, what the hell are you doing
about it?

Speaker 16 (25:04):
Right?

Speaker 15 (25:05):
Because there's no way people can afford that. That's why
I need a rates cap. That was the big mistake
when they made the Supercity. Was already hide made the
super City. They were going to put a cap on
rates of the rate of inflation, and that the last
minute they pulled the pin on it. And this is
the crap we get. So here in Hamilton they're going
to be separating our water rates off from our council
rates and they're only doing it from money grab to

(25:28):
the realty. Is the last time they separated something GoF
which was the work in a district council between the
working the regional council. Get a second set of rate
balls from them the first ship, we're up twenty eight
percent and they said, oh, I know, the rate didn't
go up, it was just a transport levy. Blah blah
blah blah blah. Yeah, in anybody, if they do that,
our rate increase won't be ninety seven percent. It'll be

(25:49):
more like one hundred and thirty percent. It's just not affordable.
And a lot of the things that I say as
I drive around Hamilton are ego projects, you know, yeh
you make my words.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
March next year, all the.

Speaker 15 (26:02):
Councils around the country that have got new councilors on
it will come up with some bloody hairbrain things that
are legacy projects. So they could have a big kid,
you know, and they do it every three years. It's
the same bloody thing, and it's just like, at least
you put some constraints on them. They don't care. They
just go willy milly spending money on anything, you know.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
And a lot of people, me included Greg, agree with
everything you're saying there. But do you think in this case,
and I think this is Brad's point, that he can
understand that there needs to be some restraint on local
councils and what they're spending on, but that same restraint
should apply to central government. And it feels sometimes they
get a lot of apprecia, but sometimes they get off
scot free with where their budget is allocated and where

(26:42):
they tax I mean, for example, the tax bracket creep.
There's been a lot of discussion about having that adjusted
for inflation, but they don't want to borrow that. They
don't want to borrow that because it means more money
in their coffer. But that makes sense that when inflation
starts to go up and you move up those tax
brackets and pay more tax, they need to move with that,
but they don't. So that's the point. Do you think
they escape a bit more of the criticism around where

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they spend their moneys versus the councils.

Speaker 15 (27:07):
For the last time the government tax I've got more
money back.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well that's all right, then it's pretty good for you.

Speaker 15 (27:13):
No, seriously answered a lot of the middle and canonies
in the country, and was the last one they gave
us a tax break? So yeah, probably they should have
a constraint on what they can choses. But I don't
think they'd get away. We're putting a twenty percent tax
rate increase on my taxes or your taxes or anybody else's,
and then next year fifteen percent, and then a year
after that fifteen percent. But they'd be out of government

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within five minutes.

Speaker 14 (27:35):
Wouldn't they have to be?

Speaker 5 (27:38):
You know?

Speaker 15 (27:38):
Whereas the councils, they don't even they don't even had
a council meeting. You asked the question and they won't
answer it, and then they expel you because it's like, oh, no,
you're just a steer and it's like, oh, hang on
a second. I got banned from the Hamilton City Council
Facebook page and it's because I put hate and things on.
I said, no, I'm not, I'm just telling the truth
and asking questions, and I don't.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Want to know.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Can you read out one of your one of your
posts that got your band, Greg?

Speaker 15 (28:02):
Oh, probably a little while ago now, Mat, So I
probably take me a way to find it.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
To be honest, we're going to be great to read.
Were there any expetatives in it?

Speaker 17 (28:10):
Greg?

Speaker 15 (28:11):
No, No, it's like this. There's a brand new roundabout
being built up three years ago. Down the road, they've
had a new roundabout built there ten years ago. I
questioned them why they put a new one up there,
and they said for safety, and I just wrote back,
that's absolutely and rubbish. There's nothing wrong with they put
the round about and originally for safety. And then I'm
driving down there and they've got those stupid things from
the bicycle lanes. They leave a bit of concrete, you know,
overal concrete. They had to go and pull them out

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because they're in the middle of the road.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
So do you think that councils would be onto it
enough if you know that councils are going to be
onto it enough to live within their means, or do
you think that they'll keep doing the vanity projects and
just cut core services.

Speaker 14 (28:51):
I don't know, to be.

Speaker 15 (28:52):
Honest, I'd like to think, I'd like to think wishful
thinking that they actually started concentrating on their core business.
But you see, they also you know, like you ask
them how much money you spend on that, and they
won't tell you. I asked them on my street how

(29:12):
much infrastructure has been put in full and infil housing
has been like two hundred and fifty units built on
about forty or fifty houses property. And this is the
response I got from the council. Oh, that information is
hard to get. We don't know what new infrastructure, but
it'll cost you two thy nine hundred dollars for trust
to get the information for you.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Really, well, they should know. They should know that to
the scent, you know, if they're being efficient, you would
think gret know that.

Speaker 15 (29:41):
I know they hadn't put any in because you don't
walk up there every day. But all they have to
do is look at the last top of a graphical
map and that'll tell you that.

Speaker 14 (29:47):
It was done last.

Speaker 15 (29:48):
They don't want you can only and I mean that's
just a few of the things going on around the city. Mate,
and other cities are just as bad. Towering a city council,
they've got a brand new building forty eight million dollars.
I know, and that's not called business to own it.
But we're going to pay the developer ninety one point
seven million dollars over fifteen years, and the building costs
forty eight million. It's just like a fifty return for

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the who owns the building and the council will get nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, that's taken the make Greg. Thank you very much
for your call. Nineteen ninety two is the text, and
we're getting a few through guys. Our pool gets checked
every two years and it costs two hundred dollars. My
parents live in sell An area and their pool has
checked every seven There are eighty people employed to check
pills driving around in council vehicles.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's it's bs. Yeah, but you know you're paying two
hundred dollars for that inspection, right, So that's on top
of rates. And then as about one hundred people are
texting and they now want to bring in congestion charges, yes,
the evil of congestion charges. And the government is supporting
their congestion charges. So then all of a sudden, the
same productive members of society are getting kicked in the

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nuts for driving to work.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, and to pay taxes to pay this economy in
this country running.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, and that's on top of everything else you've got
to pay. So no, no, this isn't at tax, this
isn't rates. This is a congestion chart.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
It's about traffic. Yeah, yeah, meya break go eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
What's your thoughts? Is the rates cap on council needed
for scrutiny and should the government look at doing something similar.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Dirty congestion judge.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's sixteen to two, The issues that affect you and
a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Sa'd be very good afternoon due it is fourteen to two.
So we're talking about some quotes from Brad Olsen, one
of our leading economists with infometrics, and he sees there's
some irony in the government forcing the councils to have
a rates cap but not putting any constraints on themselves.
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Is this true? What Liz is saying, Hey, guys, you've
probably had this comment, but Totonga Council spent four hundred
and eighty thousand dollars on a coffee machine, and our
rates increase for next year is nine point eight percent.
They were so happy to say, at least it wasn't
the considered twelve percent. It's not right spending on luxury
art items half a million dollars for.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Almost half a million on a coffee machine. I take
it there was a three year It.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Must have been multiple coffee machines, right, I think so,
because I just bought an absolute state of the art
coffee machine and it only cost me twelve hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, which is which that's a messive saving for me earlier.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
To be fair, it was that a black market safe.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I've just found the story here and right. So this
is from March this year. The Council accepted a five
year contract for coffee machines and coffee at a total
of four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Wow for some
bougie coffee coffee machines for.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Nearly one thousand.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Let's break it down. So you spend did you say,
twelve hundred on your one?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Some quick mess?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
In my head, that's a that's a heap of your
coffee machines. I mean that's one for every man in total.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So that must be the coffee machine and the running
of the coffee machine, right, how many people are getting
coffees from that? And what's wrong with the red ribbon roast?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Nothing wrong, Nothing wrong with a bit of griggs or red.
But thank you very much for their text.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Peter, welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (33:12):
Happy seasons to you. Sorry about the Christmas party. But
the thing that you guys are not looking at is
the interest and the debt servicing costs, whether it's central
government or local government. And Brad Olson, I'm afraid he
needs to go and look along with the rest of
people of New Zealand to understand the economics. And Michael

(33:35):
Hudson does it quite well. But if you look at
New Zealand's history, it was the first labor government that
created debt free money to build state housing, railways, road infrastructure,
plant forests. But if you play a game monopoly, you
don't go home and borrow the money off the private banks.
And this is what councils and governments are doing. They're

(33:56):
borrowing the money off the private banks when they can
create ninety eight percent of their money from nowhere. So
these people who vote for whichever color that have the
same idea that you've let the private create all the
money and you change the interest to the rate payers,
all the taxpayers, you're in a losing deal. You don't

(34:17):
go and do that if you play a game of
monopoly at home. And that's the critical factor. And the
Ruth Richardson or the Ministry of Finance debate that they're
not going to debate anything sensible. You know, we're getting poorer.
Look at John Key, no more taxes and GST. When
Labor introduced it, Roger Dugas say, oh, we'll give you
all the benefits and the pensions to keep up with it.

(34:39):
It went from ten percent, twelve and a half percent,
then fifteen percent. So everyone is getting poorer and poorer
and poor, and the richer getting richer and richer.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So hang on, O, can you explain again where this
money you're suggesting that the money should should come from.
This isn't it a printing money situation, is it?

Speaker 18 (34:58):
Peter, Well, that's what they did for COVID. They created
the money from nowhere.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
But they created that money from nowhere, but we definitely
paid for it and inflation and the devaluing of our
general wealth by spending it, and you know now we're
paying back just interest alone as over ten billion dollars
a year.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (35:23):
Well, if you look at how the government could create
money from nowhere, which they did in COVID around the
world because they couldn't carry on financially, and they also
bail out banks. The thing is that the private banks
are creating ninety eight percent of their money approximately from nowhere,
to fund counsels, to fund people borrowing mortgages for houses.

(35:46):
That's what they're doing, and that's why we get inflation.
So in nineteen twelve, for example, one US dollars roughly
has the buying power of one cent today. That's what
inflation does, and it's not on the goal standard. If
you have a private bank, you correct money from nowhere.
And I can remember asking one regional manager of a bank,

(36:07):
I said, what skill in your job? You create ninety
eight percent of your money from nowhere. The government can
make customers be bailed in all the government will bow
you out. You're too big to fail, too big to jail.
And there's no competition worth respect to money in the
sense that the governor of the reserve bank sits the
interest rate. And he said to me oh, I never

(36:29):
thought about it like that, but it takes me eighteen
months to get an appointment with my banking chief executive.
So these banks, you know that they get bailed out
by the taxpath, but counsels need to have a cheaper
form of funding and the government can do that.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Thank you for the call, Peter. I was listening to this.
It was actually with three days in a Row with
referenced this guy which is a professor Scott Galloway, smart
man who's an economist and a professor of marketing. But
he's made a lot of money. But he was saying,
in Western societies, the real reflection of inflation and how

(37:06):
crazily the dollars have been devalued is in house prices,
So that that is something where where you can where
it's just gone astronomical. The rest of it is kind
of hidden from you, yes, but the absolute astronomical explosion
in house prices, you know they've come back a little
bit now, is a factor of the devaluing of you know,

(37:30):
our money, and you see that in the wealth of
a country. Yeah, every Western country in the wild.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Just see that, Peter. Thank you very much. It is
eight minutes to two taking more of your calls on
eight hundred eighty ten eighty beag fory.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Surely Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight
hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's mad Heath and Tylor Adams afternoons news.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Dogs be five to two. Brian says, where is this
guy coming from? The ninety eight percent can just be
created from nowhere and COVID the money was borrowed. The
government cannot just create money. This guy is talking voodoo economics.
Printing money is not the same as borrowing that went
on during COVID. Any money printer doesn't need to be
paid back. But the devalue in the New Zealand dollar

(38:11):
is the problem. It gets diluted.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, yeah, very fair. Text Alan, We've got about sixty seconds.
What do you reckon?

Speaker 19 (38:18):
I reckon Peter was partially wrong. If a council falls over,
the government always steps in and backs it up. So
it's not just banks. That's what central government's there for.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Okay, yeah, yep, carry up.

Speaker 20 (38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (38:32):
As for councils, yes, we pay for our rubbish and
separate it used to be part of the rates, but
it was separated off. We pay a private company to
pick up our rubbish. Our rubbish stump used to be free.
Now we pay to take our rubbish there. So there's
all those costs. But you have to stop and think
what do you want your council to provide for us community?

(38:55):
And work it backwards. The same with central government. What
do you want central government to provide? Then work it backwards.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Thank you for your call, Allan. Yeah, and then add
on to that congestion charges. I can't believe. I mean
that's your thought on that across council and central government. Yeah,
just kicking the productive members of society a lot of
the enough over and over again.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Good luck to them on there. Great discussion, Thank you
to everyone who called in. Text coming up after two
o'clock it's going to be a great discussion. Should you
be buying New Zealand made gifts for Christmas?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Time?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Love to hear from you. One hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine two is the text New Sport and Weather
coming up. Great debut. Company is always hope you're having
a great Friday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Very good afternoons here, welcome back into the show. Six
past two.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
So we're just going through all the nominations for News
on the Week that are coming through on nine two
nine two. It's a flood and thank you so much
from your input on our the most popular part of
the week. Yeah, we've discovered in recent weeks.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
There's a lot going on as the judges deliberate. When
I say judges, I mean the soul judge, Matt Heath.
So you've got a lot to think about, mate, I
appreciate it. But that is coming up after three o'clock.
Looking forward to that because right now we want to
have a chat about this. It is Christmas and people
are a bit frantic at the moment because most of
us wait till about a couple of weeks out before
we have to wraith full noise into the Mauls and

(40:32):
various areas of New Zealand to try and sort out
Christmas parents before our Christmas presents, before the big day rides.
But before you dive into the usual last minute rush,
maybe it's worth slowing down just for a moment and
thinking about who are you actually giving your money to.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
That's correct, Tyler Well, that's an interesting suggestion, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Should I say yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
The discussion on whether it's going to be correct we'll
be up to you on o E. One hundred and
eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two. But there
are many many New Zealand manufacturers out there, makers of
potential Christmas presents for people. And if you should choose
to buy a New Zealand made Christmas present, not only

(41:12):
are you giving a gift to the loved one you're
giving a gift to You are also giving a gift
to a New Zealand manufacturer and a gift to the
New Zealand economy. Yes, and more than likely you're getting
something better than the absolute crap you'll probably buy that's
being brought in from overseasp your TMU and your Amazons

(41:34):
and a you're off the shelf rubbish that just gets
thrown into landfill. So should you consider spending a little
bit more and maybe buying a few less items, but
spending it within New Zealand and on stuff made lovingly
in New Zealand. And if that's the case, I one

(41:54):
hundred and eighty ten eighty give us some examples of
some things you're looking at buying or you know, if
you're a New Zealand manufacturer, something that you're making that
could be brought as a present to hear from.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
You, because there's a lot of people listening. We've got
a lot of people listening to this show. We've got
to say so, and a lot of them will be
thinking cheap is what do I get other family for Christmas?
So if you are in the game and you do
produce something right here in beautiful old New Zealand, can
to have a chat with you one hundred and eighteen
eighty and ull share.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
I'll share a New Zealand manufacturer coming up very soon
who I have regularly bought presents from, yep, because they
make their stuff here in New Zealand and it's incredibly
incredible quality and in their presence that bring a lot
of joy and health benefits. So I'll tell you what
that is coming up.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
This is tempting, this is sounding very tempting. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
You make a very logical argument that it's a win
win win when you buy New Zealand made. So if
you it's important to you to buy products that are
made in New Zealand for your Christmas gifts? What are
you buying? And if you are a manufacturer, a producer,
a creator in this country of ours, really can you
hear from you? And what's on offer?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
This sexer says, as a present for voucher slash cash
rather than getting landfall stuff from Timu. Also, in this way,
the people will likely spend it locally in retail and hospitality.
You know that's true. Yes, please buy local and thoughtfully.
We are peanut butter lovers in our house, so we
load up on picks peanut butter, the choice one and

(43:29):
they are great stuffing fillers.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Oh, I love some picks peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Actually they've said stuffing stickers. They mean stuffing stickers or
stuff stuffing fillers because peanut butter is sticky, so you're
not puting you're not just spooning that peanut butter into
the stocking age you.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Hope not pretty hard to eat out of the stock
and once you spoon it in. And they also said chocky. Yeah,
so chocky is the right choice. Oh I see, yeah,
the chocky chocky one. Yeah, the dessert peanut butter. Oh,
good times I.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Read it about a primary primary school level, don't I
We're getting there though. The worst present that my parents
ever got me, right, and love you guys so much,
you know rop mum, I love you and was probably
her purchase knowing her, but she bought a locally grown
cactus and that was at the top of my stocking

(44:16):
Christmas stockings and I reached in and grabbed the spiky,
hairy cactus around the hound and injured myself.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, I mean, that's a beautiful gift. I wouldn't mind
a locally growing cactus of anyone's listening.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
But well, it was the gift of a lesson as
well from because you know, it taught me not just
to reach into the dark and clutch stuff without having
a look first to see what it is.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
You know, your mum was a very smart woman. Oh
had one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Should you be
buying New Zealand made gifts for Christmas? And if you
have already really keen to hear from.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
You, don't forget about buying New Zealand hams for Christmas?
Support New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Farmers, yeap, so true.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Definitely check and you're buying a ham that it's not
imported and also supplementary question for me, anyone out there
selling a mutton Ham Mutton Hams. I'm a huge fan.
We know them when we're growing up.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I know you love them.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I haven't seen too many mutton Hams around Auckland, but
there are well. I feel like Mutton is appreciated more
in the South Island. Yeah, Mutton pies and mutton Hams.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
It's a deeper richness to it, the old Mutton.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
So if you've seen or selling a mutton Ham, then
I've got some business business for you.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Nineteen nine two et tex number back very shortly. It
is twelve past two.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks B.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
News Talks there B. It is fourteen fifteen, now past two,
and we are talking about buying New Zealand made gifts.
If that's you love to hear from you on oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty This.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Texas is Marcus is obsessed with Muttenham. He knows where
to get them. That's from Gilly Marcus, last great New Zealander. Yeah,
that sort of suggests what I'm saying, you know, because
he's bluff hard.

Speaker 19 (45:54):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, he's almost as south as you can get.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, absolutely well he is. Now he's moved down there. Yeah.
The muttonham I'm going to I'll reach out to Marcus
Lash and find out where he's getting his mutton hams from.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Send him all we text.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
People laugh at you smirk my hands, but they are fantastic.
It's it's different, it's different and better.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
If you ask me, can you explain the difference between
a normal pig ham versus a mutton ham? The flavor profile.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
The key difference. Tyler is ones made out of a peg,
ones made out of a sheep.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I've just got to note down, all right, The different
makes sense. The difference in flavor, it's hard to put
your your finger on it is a deeper is a
game here?

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Not quite as salty ham sweet hams are very traditional.
Hands are very sweet meat. Mutton traditionally has been.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Well it deppans if you glaze it. A lot of
the sweetness comes from the glazing, I'd say, And you
can glaze up a mutton ham as well.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
If you want, what do you glaze it with? Do
you go golden syrup in a you know a little
bit of honey.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I've I've got a glazing technique.
I mean, I think we might be getting off topic there.
I've messed up glazing in the past, okay, but you
know I do glaze them. The glazing game is strong now.
But I don't think you need to glaze. I also
don't think you need to glaze a ham.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
It's good enough by itself, and it's in a semi
you can you can roar dog a ham.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Number raw dog a mutton ham.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah sounds good. Simon. How are you mate?

Speaker 14 (47:18):
Yeah, very good. Thanks guys.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
And what's your product? What do you what do you
buy for your friends and family?

Speaker 14 (47:25):
Waste cheese out of a.

Speaker 16 (47:28):
Fantastic Yeah, New Zealand maids all made with local Ortago milk.
We're I'm calling from the headquarters here and yeah, we've
got eighty staff all picking and pecking and making cheese
all year round.

Speaker 14 (47:42):
One made.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
And do you have a sort of a Christmas pack,
a variety pack that people can order?

Speaker 16 (47:50):
Yeah, yeah, we've got this Leisay wooden gift box or
six cheese is in it and you can jump on
our website and grab it and yeah, we ship them
all around the country and they really appreciated the arrive,
you know, all child wrapped and all that and just
enough cheese to see all for the summer season.

Speaker 14 (48:07):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
See that's a fantastic gift because people are entertaining over Christmas,
aren't they. So you get a gift, yeah, I mean
then you immediately can can you can use it? You
never have enough, rather than having it in the recycling
bin on boxing day like people do with most of
the gifts.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (48:25):
No, it's great for going away to the bench and stuff.

Speaker 16 (48:27):
It's just not to get your throw and getting people
around and socializing and everyone wants to have a planner
and does will fill it with our good New Zealand
product on top.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Hey, I love you Kevin Beer. So I just had
to look at your website and and you're sold out
of the eight hundred grams. Have you got any you
know in the in the back room that you might
hold for me?

Speaker 7 (48:43):
Yeah, it might be.

Speaker 14 (48:44):
It might be to saw you out at the back there. Yeah,
the places like centers, little grotto. At the moment, everyone's
running around, she's fine everywhere. Yeah, like we're getting like
two carriers turning up at a time.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Then I love, Yeah, this is this is a great,
great story. What what percentage of your businesses around Christmas time? Simon, Yeah,
good question.

Speaker 16 (49:04):
Probably, Oh you're getting up around twenty teenth, just December.
It just something switches if everyone wants cheese and we
spend whole year preparing for it, building stocks in the winter,
we make certain stocks then, and then we make more
white mold in the summer. So yeah, and it's just
all hands for the pump right through the summer, and
then you sort of take stock in the one term

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for the next year, and each year we decide to
get better and better try and meet demand.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
When's the last courier pick up?

Speaker 16 (49:32):
I think it's.

Speaker 14 (49:33):
I think it's late next week. I think yeah, I
think it was. I just saw an email the other
day from our team saying, yeah, this is a close
off date.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
But yeah.

Speaker 16 (49:41):
You sign up onto our website, you'll get all the
updates and regular send outs.

Speaker 14 (49:45):
With all of that, it's yeah, we've got the cheese
club as well.

Speaker 16 (49:47):
You can give gifts of cheese arriving every month, so
give your auntie or your family.

Speaker 14 (49:52):
Hey, here you go. To gift that keeps on giving
throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
How good. Now, a little bit off topic here, but
the white mold, So I mean this might be trade secrets,
but is that separate to the old cheese making. You
create the white mold for the camerabier separately and then
it all goes together.

Speaker 16 (50:07):
Yes, And the white mold comes and from France penicillium candium,
it comes in and we add it to the milk
in the vat and then we mature the cheese at
twelve degrees and in that environment the mold and high humidity,
the mold grows on the surface and then when you
wrap it the pat that that down and it's a
natural protectent.

Speaker 14 (50:25):
And that's the one.

Speaker 16 (50:25):
There was some dramas that it were starting to die
off in France, like the mother strain. It's now bino
strain and it's being replicated over and over and now
it's they've actually solved it. They've done some DNA sequencing
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
In France cheesemaking, there's a lot that goes into it.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
And I'm just I'm just on your website, Winstone Cheese
dot com. You can let's just say that this isn't
paid for informercial anything.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
This is this is just a chat celebrating good New
Zealanders doing good things.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Simon's not just ruing. He's just rung in, you know.
Isn't one of those ones you know. Anyway, I'm just
looking at your cheesecakes. But they're actually they're actually just cheesecakes.
They're not a cheesecake. They're just big round cheese celebration cake.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (51:07):
Yeah, we actually had to dedicate people to help brides
design and the colors of the cake. You can go
with the Brian maid's dress, you can go with you know,
the theme of the day like so yeah, and they're great.
So people, rather than having a sweet or move away
from sugar, you have a stack of cheese and then
you've got all the cheese afterwards for the after party
and it flows on.

Speaker 14 (51:28):
Guests can take slices away. So yeah, they go really well.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Oh good on you, good on your Simon. Windstone Cheese
dot Com. If you want to make Simon even busier
before Christmas, Yeah, they're.

Speaker 14 (51:40):
Gonna, they're gonna they're gonna make me take us.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, god speed man, good luck. What a great care
Winstone Cheese oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. We're talking about buying New
Zealand made products and gifts this Christmas. If you're in manufacturing,
your producer, product, your creative, can you hear from you
how is business going at the moment?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
The stix is Matt out from butchery, have mutton Hams
out from? What a beautiful place set up in Auckland?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
No, no, how dare you?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
It's just outside of Dneda. It's nice, beautiful spot out from.
It's the fancy pants place to live these days. Actually yep,
it's about two degrees warmer than it is in the
city speaking.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah, all right, it is twenty one past two. But
taking more of your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. Should you be buying New Zealand made gifts
this Christmas? Beg very shortly.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty eight on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Twenty three pasts too, just to quip me a culpa
from white Stone Cheese.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yes, Whitestone dot com.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yes, not like Winston, No, Winstone, good people, white Stone
down in Omoru, beautiful cheese.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
The study. New Zealand made c NC machined aluminium spud gun.
Ah yeah, great fun, that's buddy. I got a aluminium
spud gun for Christmas one year, and I don't know
why people are more people aren't running around with spud guns.
It's so good. So you just shove it in the
in the potato, yep, and then you fire it at someone.

(53:05):
And you know, at the Heath family is generally three
to four different types of potato involved. There's new potatoes,
there's scalloped potatoes, and and there's also a pile of
mashed potato. So you know, if you can add a
few kids firing raw spuds at each other, which just

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really really sets off the Christmas vibe.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call Christmas May. New Zeala made Christmas guess, Peter, how
are you?

Speaker 7 (53:36):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (53:36):
Good guy? There was a good chap that you had,
were Whitestone.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Very good for style, mate, very good.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
I waited ten minutes to say.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
That it was worth it. It was so worth it.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Mutt in the hands. You didn't
soon go to a local butcher shop that cures his
own hands, and you're you're going to have to be
quick because the problem is going to be sourcing the mutton.
There's a lot of muttons have kind of disappeared off
the shelves now and they've gone into production for different

(54:12):
areas that they need as opposed to selling sides and
roads and all that. So where before teen years ago
was three to four very really you'll see now in
shops unless cure the old things.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
What do you think of my chances of finding a
mutton Ham in Auckland on the on the twelfth December
on topic New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (54:38):
Mate, No, you might get some Australian mutton. I know
you fit of that around, but yeah, I think you've
had a struggle at this time unless he's Watcher is
specifically selling button hams, and I would have trash Marcus
last with Courcy mutton nams. No, he's super dick South

(55:01):
for anything.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
That's a fair point. He's a massive gatekeeper as well,
so even if you ring him, he's not going to
tell you a sort of don't you run for.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Here on a Muttonham agenda. Thanks for it for that text, Peter,
and I'll refrain some saying that was good it from you,
that would be that would be cheap. So I appreciate that, Peter.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Well played and great goal.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Please consider artwork from Sarah C Art for gifting New
Zealand made and created inspired artworks. Sarah C is a
Munga Fi artist. Artworks are suitable for hanging indoor or
outdoor garden artwork Sarah C Design dot co dot n
Z bit of New Zealand. Art's a pretty good option,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Definitely yep? That says I love you to a lot
of people. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty If you
produce things in New Zealand, whether it's a product or
you're creative like Sarah C, love to hear from you,
give your business a shout because we're asking the question
should people buy New Zealand made gifts? And this is
your opportunity to tell them what's out there. So love
to hear from you. I eight one hundred eighty ten

(56:00):
eighty nine two ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
The perfect exmus gift is a New Zealand hadn't it
a beautiful jumper or gift voucher from sisters that knit
or right?

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Good people?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Send that on it. Are we going to the news now?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah, let's go to the headlines.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Eh okay, Well after the headlines, I'll unpaid pump up
the tires of a New Zealand manufacturer that makes a
fantastic Christmas present. As we say, if you if you
buy a gift from a New Zealand manufacturer, you're not
only giving a gift to your loved ones, you're also
giving a gift to a fellow New Zealand business. So
effectively given a gift to the New Zealand economy.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
So beautiful thing. Headlines with railing coming up. We are
of course taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty eight.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
You talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's
no trouble with a blue bubble. The disgraced former leader
of Gloria Vale has been sent to prison for more
than two years after admitting to a raft of sex offenses.
Howard temple pleaded guilty to twelve charges earlier this year.
Workers First Unions not satisfied with the just announced minimum

(57:03):
wage increase to twenty three dollars and ninety five cents.
General Secretary Dennis Marger says it still isn't enough to
pay the bills. Two people are facing serious charges after
allegedly using Facebook marketplace to kidnap and rob someone in
Auckland last night. The victim had arranged via the social
media platform to buy a vehicle. A kick start heading

(57:27):
into Christmas for the retail sector after a busy November.
Stats n Z retail card spending figures for last month
show a one point six percent increase in total retail
sales on the same time last year. A warning to
steer well clear of shellfish from the Eastern Bay of Plenty,
New Zealand food safety reports increased tocks and levels been

(57:48):
eating most shellfish, including mussels, oysters and kenna could cause
serious illness. Contractor to be appointed to rebuild fire hit
New World Victoria Park, Seymour at zid Herald Premium back
to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Thank you very much, Raylean. So is it important for
you to buy New Zealand made gifts a of Christmas?
And if you make or produce or create something here
in New Zealand love to hear from you. Oh one
hundred and eighty ten eighty Hey.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Guys, why doesn't Matt put his phone on silence during work.
The pings from his phone are really annoying. I'd rather die.
Text to them, put my phone on silent.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
That's a big gun. The ever, that's a mass. What
do they want your firstborn chop.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
You'll have to put my phone on silent by ripping
it from my cold dead hand.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
If anything, you're just going to increase the volume, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
By which I mean sorry, I will put it on silent.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
A good, good suggestion. I've just got a suggestions Christmas.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
But I've just got a lot of emergencies at home
with the home reno at the moment, and there's a
lot of a lot of people texting me.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
There's a lot going on in your life.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
My gym's texting me about a certain issue with the
flaws got sorted. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Someone wants trying to get an electrician around all the house.
All the power in the house has gone off when
the flooring people have cut a wire accidentally. Yeah, there's
a lot going on. There is a lot going on
in your Apologies from that highly highly unprofessional now I
said that the company, that New Zealand company that I
buy Christmas presents from as as I keep saying. You know,
you give a gift to a loved one and you

(59:12):
give a gift to a New Zealand business by buying
their products. Yes, and it's do not disturb Sleep company.
Do not disturb sleep dot com. That's do not disturb
sleep dot com. And they make these wise Will sleep
masks completely manufactured in New Zealand out of their factory
and Auckland, and their products are so good. I have

(59:34):
my my sleep masks that they make on every night.
It's so nice to have on your face and and
it just makes sleeping so much better. You know, you
don't know how those little lights around your room are
keeping you awake. They do all these studies and they
find just even the little light on your charger, Yes,
your brain is unconsciously registering it and not going to

(59:55):
the sleep, deep sleep that you need right to fully recuperate.
So these these masks so good, They're fantastic. They've got
like they've got a bunch of other products as well,
like these these all will pull all wool pillows and
douve inners and such. You know, they've got weighted imasks

(01:00:17):
as well, and pillow duvets body pillows.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
This sounds amazing. Anyone who uses New Zealand wool in
their products, they need to be hero. It's fantastic. We
love wool in this country. We need to be using
it more because such a great product, such a great product.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
So we seriously. And I know my kids aren't watching,
but I'm about to get them a little pack for Christmas.
When I say watching you they might be watching the radio.
Some people watch the radio, but I mean listen listening.
But yeah, you got a of the company. You've got
a bit of duck involved as well. Duck feathers are
involved as well in the pillows, so there's New Zealand
ducks and sheep involved. Yeah, the companies do not disturb

(01:00:56):
Sleep dot Com. Fantastic stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
How great key we's doing it doing it well? Oh
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Buying New Zealand made, especially from small handmade businesses, can
make a huge difference. Is this text to someone. I
have a small handmade dolls, closed business where I sew
everything myself and go to various markets around the North
Island and to see the little faces light up as
the real bars. I also have a website, the Dole
Boutique dot cot and said, where I sell to those
who can't make it to market. It's hard work, but

(01:01:26):
I love doing what I'm doing. That's from gem.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
What a great person gym is gid A Rita. Hey,
how are you very good?

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
So I actually have a little fun story for you
about the Do Not Disturb Sleep Company.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Yeah, we love a fun story.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
Yeah, So do Not Disturb Sleep Company get their wool
from Wisewall. Now, when wisewallsaurce their wall, obviously they take
all the beautiful wall for Do Not Disturb and other
furniture manufacturing. But obviously there's the underside of the sheep,
the bellies and the pieces. So we work with them
exclusively and take all the bellies and pieces so the
farmers give a better farmgate return. So the whole fleece

(01:02:03):
gets used and we turn those bellies and pieces into
beautiful garden products.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
What kind of garden products? Reader, So we're.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Called the Stain and Growth So we do walk garden products.
So that's everything from your multi metting for weed prevention
to save you time so you can like plant and
walk away and of spray and walk away or we
do wool palettes that infuse that n't help let enrich
the soil. And then we also do a whole gift
range based around gardening, so we'll kneeling pads, a garden

(01:02:34):
bar projects, you get this really cool cocktail kit. You
get wool, pots, seeds to get everything you need to
grow herbs to make cocktails and then you can drink cocktails.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
Yes, we have a really big gift range as well
as the home garden range, and we'll use the underbellies
and pieces so none of the fleece goes to waste.
And we do that in partnership with companies like do
not Disturb.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Well do you put so when you say beds, so
you'd lay that down on top of the bed that
you're planting, and you know, stops the weeds coming through
and that kind of stuff. Is that one of the
products he's talking about, So we do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
So for example, where tomato growpeck So you get your
wool with pre space planting holes in it, so it's
like taint by numbers. You lay the you put the
fertilizer down that comes in the kit, you put the
wool meting down, you plant in the pre space holes
and you can walk away, so you don't need to
wed that summer of your low on time. The wall
keeps the moisture in the ground and it also acts

(01:03:31):
as a slow release fertilizer.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
A good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
And so the Christmas gift, God, I'm just having a
look now, and just give us the website.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
Again www dot Sustain and Grow dot co dot inz.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
So if you went to do Not Disturb sleep dot
com and bought the face mask or one of their pillows,
and then then you went to you guys sustain a
Grow dot co, dot and Z, you'd begin, you'd begin
the whole sheep. Yeah, you begin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Everything is yeah, fantastic, that's what we love.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
And then and then if I get a mut if
I get a mutton hand as well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Ye, you guys are doing all of you, particularly you mates.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
But it's not just you know when you're shot from
the small businesses that we're like with the New Zealand.
We're all working together as well, you know, you know
it's each other as competition, but if we can help
each other build, then the economy is just better.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, absolutely, ecosystem. It feels good. It feels good. To
be talking about this REATA absolutely Now I'll just fill
that out in case people will put the er. So
it's s U S T A I N A grow,
sustain and grow with an A but fantastic great work reader.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
No, well then thank you for your time today.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
You go well, Happy Christmas to you. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is a numbered of caller. You got
a business out there that makes beautiful New Zealand products,
We're keen to hear from you. Nine to nine two
is the text as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
And the text that that's asking about. Do not disturb.
I mean you can just google google it, but yeah,
you're not putting in the sleep when you're when you're
googling that, it's do not disturb. I mean when you're
going to the site, it's do not disturb sleep dot com. Okay,
so that might be your problem there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yeah, very good, right back, very shortly, but of course
taking your calls on one hundred and eighty ten eighty
and if you want to send a teach than welcome
nWo is that number, it's twenty one to three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
It'd be very good afternoons. You're nineteen to three. So
we're talking about buying New Zealand mate, this Christmas? Is
it the smart thing to do? Is it a bit
of a win. Win for your friends and family and
win for our economy and the good people creating things
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Give a gift to a loved one and give a
gift to the New Zealand economy. John, Welcome to the show.
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 21 (01:05:40):
Good afternoon, Martin Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Good afternoon, John.

Speaker 21 (01:05:45):
How you doing Gooday, Look, I'm a bit hard of hearing.
Are you speaker phone? It makes a lot easier to
communicate with you. You kept getting the name wrong for
white Stone cheese. You kept seeing wind Stone cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Bloody tires, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
This is my last day on the show, John, because
of that. So look, I'm sorry. I paid my price.

Speaker 21 (01:06:09):
Yeah, it's cool. I've been I took I took a
day trip down to kai Kura about ten years ago
with a couple of buddies, a day trip on the ferry,
and we took one of the guys down to shout
him crayfish. The afternoon tea at the Crayfish Caravan at Kaikura.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Be sorry, NaN's ben.

Speaker 21 (01:06:36):
I can't remember what it was called it was, but
it was it was this. It was this around about
his seventieth and it was ten years ago, because now
the guy's eighty and we we called him a specialty
cheese shopping Kaikoura and they had white stone cheese for sampling.
And I've been I've been buying one point eight kilogram

(01:06:58):
rounds of white stone windsor blue for the past ten
years and getting them sent up to Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
How much? How much? With that way, how much would
one of those be? Just roughly speaking, it's a one
point eight kilogram, that's what you said that at the
start them online?

Speaker 21 (01:07:19):
Yeah, I get them from the website. You can don't
even get three point six kilogram.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
How long is it take me to get through one
point kg of cheese?

Speaker 21 (01:07:29):
A couple of weeks, I.

Speaker 22 (01:07:32):
Tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
A couple of weeks ago, nine diagnosed me with gout.
It turned not to be turned out not to be
gout with the older it was actually a broken toe.
But anyway, it doesn't matter. So this is good news
because it's a broken toe and knockout. That means I
can lay into the one point eight kg's of cheese
and crayfish, which which I'm very pleased.

Speaker 21 (01:07:50):
I share them out quite frequently with my friends and
one of my one of my favorite breakfast is White
Storm Blue cheese and crisp well peeled and corn Grammy
Smith apples.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Oh, speaking my language, cheese and apples for breakfast.

Speaker 21 (01:08:12):
Apple and Windstone, white.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Stone, white Stone. You did it now, John white Stone.

Speaker 21 (01:08:20):
Winds of Blue.

Speaker 14 (01:08:22):
It's absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Good on you, John, Thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 21 (01:08:26):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I'm Amanda. My Kiwi business is the Chiller. We're an
online non alcoholic drink store supporting lots of locally produced
non alcoholic wine, beer and spirit producers, perfect for celebrating
over Christmas. There's been a real uptick. In fact, there
was a big story the other day about a non
alcoholic New Zealand manufacturer. I can't remember their call. I
look at ye drinks A drinks that have just had

(01:08:50):
some big sales in the UK, right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they went very well in the UK,
which even they were surprised by. Oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If you're
buying New Zealand made What are you buying Dean, Welcome
to the show. Yes, how are you very good?

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:09:10):
I'm from a company here in christ It's called Greenstone
Crop and we locally carve greenstone pendants and and other
lovely gifts for people. Makes a great gift for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
And where would people be able to find you if
they want to order some of your punamu?

Speaker 23 (01:09:32):
So you're be able to go on to our website
which is www dot Greenstone Shop, dot co, dot and z.

Speaker 24 (01:09:40):
How good and well?

Speaker 14 (01:09:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
And what do people need to know when they when
they you know they might not know too much about pornamu?
What do they need to know when they come to
you and select the piece?

Speaker 23 (01:09:50):
Some of these each of our designs have like different meanings,
so you know, you can you can look at that
there may be certain things going on in their life
and things like that where where they feel that might
be sort of help them.

Speaker 14 (01:10:07):
So yeah, you can.

Speaker 23 (01:10:08):
And on your website there's there's meanings for each of
the different designs.

Speaker 14 (01:10:12):
That we make.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I'm just looking at it now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah, beautiful pieces. So are you a carver yourself? Deane?

Speaker 23 (01:10:18):
Yes, yes, I'm one of the carvers here on site,
so we carve here at our studio here in christ Hitch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Yes, fantastic, good on you Greenstone shop dot co dot Z.
Thank you for your call, Dan, what.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
A great gift. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is that number to call. We are talking about buying
New Zealand made gifts. So if you have bought New
Zealand made love to hear from you. And if you
make New Zealand made really keen to give you a
place a shout out because you're good people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
And thank you so much for everyone that's texting in
and pointing out how I humiliated myself asking the question
how heavy is a one point eight block of geese?

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I didn't want to say anything, mate, but yeah, it's
a fair question. But smashing that in doing a half weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
It reminds me of a Maine and mind that worked
in a fish and chip shop and this dront guy
came in and said how much is the dollar's chips?
And he said a dollar? This was a long time ago,
and then the guy asked, mashed up the rubbish bun.
I don't have a dollar, so I've been laughing at
that guy for saying that for about twenty years and
now I've done it myself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Oh mate, that's too good. It is thirteen to three
bag very shortly, the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
News TALKSB. We're talking about buying New Zealand made this Christmas?
Is it important to you and if you make those
particular gifts or products or you're a creative, love to
hear from you. One hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
And we were talking to someone from the Chiller just
before and look he's a listener backing up. I've purchased
from the Chiller. Prices and variety and service are.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Outstanding, five stars. Nice one, Mike.

Speaker 14 (01:11:51):
How are you good, mate?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
How's it going very good so we can to hear
about your product?

Speaker 24 (01:11:57):
Oh well, it's actually minus.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
My wife.

Speaker 24 (01:11:59):
She's an artist who's sort of been trying to plug
a weight up for a year or so now just
sort of getting off the ground. But yeah, she's got
a a like a craft thing going on. At the
Funny Worker function scene of the Sunday, which is near
Frank Kitts park in one and tend to go and

(01:12:20):
she does. Oh yeah, she's pretty good. Actually, I mean,
I know it's subjective, but you know, she's got a
website it's called Shoreline Studio, which you can search online
and have a look. And she's quite creative. Like she's
a vegan, which makes them my.

Speaker 14 (01:12:37):
Life quite difficult.

Speaker 24 (01:12:40):
But she see all of her soy milk cuttons. They're
not actually recyclable, so she keeps those smashes them open
and prints stuff on those as well. So cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Environment, it's some beautiful stuff. I'm just looking at the
toy skateboard art. She is a talented, talented woman.

Speaker 24 (01:12:58):
Yeah, and you know, if you go in there and
you find something you like, she can put them on
a T shirt or a cap, even though I'm wearing
at one of the cats right now it's covered in crap.
But yeah, yeah, so even if you went on the
wedsline to sad like this design. Actually, one person she
met one of her craft stools like her that too
we are that he asked if he could get it
on as a tattoo.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
So yeah, how good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Oh yeah, there's some beautiful stuff here. So Shoreline studio
dot in zed.

Speaker 24 (01:13:29):
I believe that's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Shoreline studio dot in zid. Yeah, beautiful stuff. See I
can see someone getting this as a gift for someone's back.
It's got a very summary holiday vibe. A lot of
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Yeah, definitely does. And whereabouts was her exhibition? Did you
say that this weekend?

Speaker 24 (01:13:45):
It's on Sunday. It's the Funny Walker function Ceno, which
is mayor Franketts Park and Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Nice good and or best luck for her and the
best luck for you being married to a vegan. I
appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Ands for Mike unfortunately, thank you very much. Mate. Oh
eight hundred eighty T and eighty is the number to call, Diane.
How are you hi there.

Speaker 20 (01:14:09):
I'm giving a shout out to Tumbleweed Teas. I've been
buying them since my son was like six months and
he's now fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
And has tea bags or T shirts T shirts.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Clarify tumbleweeds.

Speaker 20 (01:14:24):
Yeah, t shirts, but they go as Tumbleweed Teas and
they have all New Zealand nature conservation on them and
a lot of their T shirts they give back to
various different conservation efforts and national parks and they're all
handprinted by the family and they come in various shapes
and sizes. Even just choose you know, you want to
bring T shirt with a native flag or a fantail

(01:14:49):
or you know, marine life on it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
You can get a bunch of sharks. Oh yes, for
sharks on a tee.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:14:57):
So they're they're really cool and every year they bring
out new designs and they're really hardy. I've got some
T shirts that he obviously can't sit anymore, but I
actually turned them into a bedspread and he still sleeps
underneath them because I've free thows them into a bread spread.
So you know, they've been going for teen years now.
So go qual of these stuff and it's a really
good family to support.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
You can get a snail on a kid's T shirt
right there. Look at that, beautiful. I thank you so
much for you called Diane.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
What a great business. Fantastic. Can't go past the fantail either.
Got a couple of ticks before we hit the news.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Hi guys, says Clint. Escape Grace Jin move their operation
from Auckland to Trace just out of Cromwell. Hands down
New Zealand's best ever locally produced gin I used to.
I used to holiday in Cludon Valley, which is near Tarras.
Fantastic area around there. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
They do some good booze down that way, don't they.
Ray Gins.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Yeah, and they're looking at putting an international airport up Terrace,
but we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Yeah, Yeah, spend a lot of time in the Cludon Valley.
What a beautiful part of the country. Antonia, how are you?

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
Hey, thank you, hey, thanks for taking my call. I
jumped on here because you're talking all about ze and
we are completely all about New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (01:16:12):
We we actually grow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Power.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
We actually are a hatchery and we grow baby power
haliotis IRUs and we grow them. We take it takes
four years to grow them up to size, and we
actually put a little insert in there. We nuculate them
and actually grow a pearl that takes over four years
to grow. And we do this all on other Power Island.

(01:16:37):
And yeah, if we're a family business and we grow
pearls for in New Zealand jewelry in New Zealand sorry
New Zealand Gold or New Zealand spelling silver. And we're
very passionate about this because we actually are you know,
it's it's our it's our religion, our gorgeous blue pearls,

(01:17:01):
just because some of the rarest you know, the power
is one of the most beautiful shells in the world
and we have we we have the ability of growing
these gorgeous hunique pearls that have.

Speaker 17 (01:17:16):
Not grown nowhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
And do you live on the island on?

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Yeah, yep, we live on the island we live on
which is on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
That? Is that mulble sounds?

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Wow? So how many people live on the island?

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
What twenty?

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
You know, it's a good question. Probably around thirty forty
people year round and then in the summer there's probably
over one hundred old people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
What an absolute beautiful spot to live, stunning part of
the country.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
And so how would people get hold of you if
they wanted to give someone one of your one of
your pearls?

Speaker 6 (01:17:55):
So the best way is online.

Speaker 18 (01:17:57):
We our website has out of Power Blue Pearls.

Speaker 6 (01:18:01):
Dot co, dot m Z or people can actually come
out here and spend a week in or stay a
couple of nights. We've got a holiday accommodation and you
can come.

Speaker 14 (01:18:11):
And do a tour.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Brilliant Sorry, We've got to go. The news headlines are
coming and strong. But should we keep this going? Got
so many people waiting to talk about great New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Product, loving this chat, so yes, please keep it going.
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you're
buying New Zealand made or you're making it, kind to
hear from you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Right your new home are instateful and entertaining talk. It's
Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Zebby how did do you welcome back into the show?
Six past three?

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
I've gutted Tyler, but I got it because we were going.
The news comes at news Talk ZIB whether you want
it to or not. You know, it just comes at
a time we always want it to come. But yes,
it's on a timer.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
It's hard timed out. We'll give there's no flexibility.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
And you absolutely nailed it into the break by saying,
you know you've got the exact words out, brilliantly done.
And then I was so excited for you. I left
my mic on and said, well done.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Mate, ruined it didn't I, well, it's a beautiful thing.
It's nice that that went out to the air waves.
So that you see it as it could have been
a lot worse. So thank you very much mate. But
yeah I felt good about that one. But yeah, the
old mic Putton, I think it's just a bit rusty.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Yeah, okay, all right then should we keep this topic going. Yes,
we were talking about the concept of buying New Zealand
made products as gifts for Christmas, because in that way
you not only give a gift your loved one, but
you also give a gift to a New Zealand company
and in the New Zealand economy, so it's double feel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Good, right yep, one one win. So we want to
hear from you. If you're buying New Zealand made, what
are you buying? And if you're producing New Zealand made,
this is your chance to give a bit of a
shout out and give some options for people who are
probably just starting to get into the Christmas shopping.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Mustache cookies and cookie pies stuff worth dying for and
maybe killing who you go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
That is the business. If you had mustache cookies, it's
down in christ Oh my god, they are freaking amazing.
It's in Riverside, I think. Now go check them out
if you're there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
We make kids travel games. KeyWe car games, football, bingo cricket,
basketball games played in the car on your summer holiday
road trips. Keywecargames dot co dot sorry, keywecargames dot in zeid.
My goodness. I still love playing car cricket yep. When
I was a kid and I had this car cricket

(01:20:22):
sheet that one of the service stations gave away for years.

Speaker 6 (01:20:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
You know, if you haven't played car cricket, you get
different runs for different cars. You know, you get out
on different things, like maybe a car with the trailer
gets you out. I can't remember the rules, actually.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Yeah, various rules. But what a game and that keeps
you entertained for so long. Great for the appearents as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Yeah that's right. Yeah so Keywecardgames dot.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
In zeed Janey.

Speaker 16 (01:20:45):
How are you hello?

Speaker 19 (01:20:47):
I'm good?

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
How are you good? So you create or you've got
some gift ideas for people?

Speaker 17 (01:20:54):
I am the creator and I can offer the gift
of a forever memory because I do photography, and vouchers
are a very good gift to gift to people who
might not be able to afford them them else or
are looking at photo shoots themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
So that was a great idea, a good voucher for
a nice photography session. So what's the name of your company?

Speaker 18 (01:21:17):
I am J Wild Photography and where can we find you?

Speaker 17 (01:21:23):
So I'm on Facebook online Facebook at the moment. I've
just recently done a whole lot of baby minise for
Christmas which is super cute.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Oh that is adorable. And so whereabouts that you based?

Speaker 17 (01:21:39):
I'm Auckland based.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Right okay, Oh yes, I'm just oh, I'm just having
a look now that's gorgeous, very very yes, yeah, that's.

Speaker 17 (01:21:48):
Nine days old, that little girl.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Yeah, oh that's beautiful. You're very talented, Jane. That's that's
a great idea, right well, mention that just mentioned that
name on Facebook again for our audience.

Speaker 17 (01:22:00):
Jay Wild Photography, So just a letter J Wild w
I L d am Photography.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
How good? Thank you very much for giving us buzz.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Oh here we go. This is Chris from Kiwikardgames dot
m Z. I was just talking about you before. So
what what with the cricket, what are the what are
the current rules for car cricket?

Speaker 25 (01:22:25):
The rules we have is that you've got a white car,
respone run, caper vans and six runs and if you
see a truck, you've bowled out someone else.

Speaker 24 (01:22:34):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
And so you've got to describe the product that you're
selling to to play these games, because you've got another ones.
You've got basketball, you've also got football.

Speaker 25 (01:22:45):
Yep, footballers played between two players and directors. And the
car you have pads and you're looking for white cars
which are passers for your team to just go towards
the goal. And you're looking for a green car to
score a goal.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Fantastic. And see the good thing about this is it's
normally the punishing way people normally travel now is mum
and dad in the front, I know, listening to podcast
or something and all the kids along the back on
their devices. Yeah, no one talking to each other. Yeah,
So being able to play a game with everyone, that's
a bit of a boon. Pretty wholesome stuff there, Chris.

Speaker 25 (01:23:21):
It is no devices included.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
What's your top seller.

Speaker 25 (01:23:28):
Being go at the moment? But football, we're very just
developed football and it's new. No one else makes it
in the world, and it's totally fun. The kids have
a great time playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Yeah, what a great presence for someone kiwikar Games dot
Z if I got that right, that's correct their website.

Speaker 25 (01:23:43):
But we do sell for about one hundred and fifty
retailers throughout the country.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Great work, fantastic And what sort of retailers we're talking
BP stations that sort of thing.

Speaker 25 (01:23:53):
No, sadly not. No, we're in places like wet calls,
some paper pluses. We're in a lot of little gift
shops around holiday places around the country.

Speaker 14 (01:24:03):
Yeah, bookstores.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Fantastic, well done. Yeah, it looks fantastic and easy. Say
that's a healthy, wholesome way to keep the kids entertained
when you're traveling up and down the country.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
I love the picture on your website of just this
happy family in a car and they we'll got big
smiles on your faces. It's a great shot you've got there.
How good. But they should be in service stations. I
mean that'ud be a great thing. You stop for gas,
pick up one of these games anyway, Wake up, wake
up servos, give some key we card games in this
in store. Hey, thanks to you call Chris, appreciate it,

(01:24:35):
Thank you very much. It sounds like you're on the
road right now. Are you playing any game you in
your head as you're driving.

Speaker 25 (01:24:42):
Just quietly driving home?

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Good, yeah, good man. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Nineteen ninety two is
the text number. We'll get of two a few of
those very shortly. It is thirteen past three news talks'd
be it's a quarter past three. So if you're buying
New Zealand made gifts for Christmas, love to hear from you,
or if you make them, produce them, create them. O. Wait,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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It's a win win for every What can you hear
from you? Henry? How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 21 (01:25:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:25:12):
Good, thank you, good, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
What do you got for us?

Speaker 26 (01:25:16):
So, me and my partners just not long ago created
a printing business, a three D printing business, and we
specialize and personalized three D lamps reading lamps.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Did you say three? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
And what's your website?

Speaker 13 (01:25:34):
Nesian Elements dot co dot m.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Z, Nesian Elements dot co dot NZ. Let's just check
this out. And so how did you get into this?

Speaker 22 (01:25:42):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
What brought you into the lamp game?

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:25:47):
I was just sitting there at home after work one
day and I.

Speaker 10 (01:25:49):
Thought, I don't like my job.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Oh wow, these are really cool.

Speaker 10 (01:25:57):
Yeah, so we do it.

Speaker 13 (01:25:58):
We can customize for anything to names, for people's photos
or family photos, and we can incorporate that. And it
all comes with a phone light, so you can use
the switch the light on and off with your.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Phone and wow, those are really cool man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Oh yeah, this statue. I know it's coming soon, but
I like the look of that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
So you can turn yourself or somebody else into a lamp.
How amazing.

Speaker 13 (01:26:22):
Yeah, into figurines, into little ornaments. We can turn people
into ornaments. And yeah, just for this week.

Speaker 10 (01:26:30):
As of next week Friday, if.

Speaker 13 (01:26:32):
Anybody wants, they can use the Matt and Tyler discount code.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Oh you're a good man, Matt and Tyler. I know
those guys.

Speaker 13 (01:26:40):
Yeah a nd Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
How good. I might be using that discount code because
I need a lamp. I'm just looking at these. So
so you've got these ones that are pre set designs.
But you can also because these pre set designs are bloody,
they're beautiful. Look at that the light.

Speaker 13 (01:26:57):
My partner's quite the artist, so she she she does
a lot of our designs.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yeah, the light of legacy.

Speaker 15 (01:27:02):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
That's that's beautiful, that's this is these These are very cool, mate.

Speaker 24 (01:27:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yeah, seeing them for the first time, this is a
genuine reaction, you know it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
And how's business going at the moment.

Speaker 13 (01:27:14):
Henry, Oh, it's going. It's going really awesome actually at
the moment. And yeah, Christmas obviously is that is the season.
So people are ordering quite a bit. But we get
quite a few from our community because we give quite
a lot of three things away to our community. So
our local kindergarten, we gave every kid some free toys

(01:27:34):
for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Call family is doing it but hard yep.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Man, you guys are good people. So that website Nesian Elements,
I'll spell that out for our listeners. N ees i
a n elements dot co dot n z.

Speaker 5 (01:27:47):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:27:48):
And we're also on Facebook and Instagram as well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Painted Guiding Wales a cool one as well. Awesome. Yeah,
thank you so much, Henry. So that is Anesian Elements
dot cod on zed and there's a Matt and Tyler
free shipping code there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
How good your allegiend, mate, go well, thank you very
much for giving us a bud guys Christmas. Merry Christmas
to you, Amanda, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
To the show. You've got a go. So you're operating
out of Wellington, I believe.

Speaker 27 (01:28:17):
Yeah, we've got a little family owned Wellington based tea business.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
So a tea business.

Speaker 27 (01:28:22):
Talk us through that teas So it's called T left
T L E A F T dot Co Dozens and
we've got a store up Jig's Arcade in Wellington and
we've got obviously the online store. We do one hundred
and seventy different quality teas and infusions, a whole bunch
of accessories and gift packaging all of that stuff. So

(01:28:43):
we've sort of got something for every kind of tea lover.
But in particular we do a lovely range of New
Zealand teas with unique New Zealand botanicals blended in with them.

Speaker 12 (01:28:52):
That's all done out at.

Speaker 27 (01:28:53):
Our per Tony store factory out there. And yeah, it's
got all sorts of gifts if we kind.

Speaker 21 (01:28:59):
Of tea lover.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
And where do you source your right botanicals from? And
the tea leaves, so most of the tea.

Speaker 27 (01:29:06):
Leaves come from overseas because of course we don't grow
tea in New Zealand apart from the long teas. So
you usually use a tea estate as a base for
something that comes from a farm or a Judge yealing
tea or something from Sri Lanka, Ceylon base teas, and
then we blend them with stuff that we find here
like Coward cow afire.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
And so your website's tea leaf tea dot codnz. But
it's like the letter T than leaf than tea dot Codenzi.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
You got it.

Speaker 27 (01:29:36):
Yep, that's exactly right.

Speaker 21 (01:29:37):
You go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
There's a great Christmas present option spending money locally.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Yeah, fantastic, this is great. Yeah when when? Yeah, Amanda,
thank you very much. We'll take a few more calls
on our eight hundred and eighty ten eight. If you
are a producer, love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Julia Julie asks, men, can you please put up a
list of your callers great gift websites somewhere please? Well
have you been running down all these ones?

Speaker 22 (01:30:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Can I I've just been writing down the names are
the people who have called through on the phone, because
we've had hundreds of hundreds of tea So I think
what we'll do, We'll go through the various company names
and if you're if you've got Google, yeah, and that's
the best way to find them. Yeah, so we'll go
through that before we wrap this up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
But as for putting on the website, the entire rest
of the company is currently at the Christmas party, so
we don't really have any tech backup to put it up.
So it'll have to be a verbal list.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Yeah, our digital man's half cut by now right back
very shortly. It is twenty one past three. But taking
your calls O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty notice or.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Report, isn't it absolutely shocking?

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
Start?

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Yeah, shocking. He's going to regret that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Twenty three past three. We're talking about buying New Zealand
made products this Christmas. Win when win for your loved
ones and win for our economy and the good people
doing it doing the work for our economy business owners.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Hi, guys, people can celebrate with lizards, tintillas, tortoises and
many other amazing animals. Zoo Ventures creates New Zealand made
memories and pets and exotic animals through birthday and excess parties.
Workplace well being in educational workshops.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Is Sally Nice Zoo Ventures dot Co Doors in Chinchilla.
Good times, Pepper, How are you this afternoon? Hello?

Speaker 5 (01:31:22):
Hi?

Speaker 24 (01:31:22):
What do you got for us?

Speaker 28 (01:31:25):
I make handmade scrunches and boughs for your hair.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Oh, scrunchies like this what you put around a ponytawer
kind of thing?

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 28 (01:31:33):
And bows?

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
That's cool? And how long have you been doing that?

Speaker 25 (01:31:36):
For?

Speaker 24 (01:31:36):
Pepper?

Speaker 20 (01:31:38):
I think I started quite young, maybe like twelve or something,
but I've only really bought it at this year.

Speaker 28 (01:31:44):
I'm sixteen.

Speaker 14 (01:31:46):
Good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Good on you entrepreneurial in your teenage years? And how
could people get hold of you your scrunches and bow's Pepper?

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
You can check my Instagram Facebook called TikTok at sweet
apple scrunches.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
What was that again?

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
Sorry?

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
Sweet apple scrunches?

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Sweet apple sweet apple scrunchies.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Great name, okay, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Well, have a merry Christmas and I hope you shift
some units on the back of this phone call, and
good luck going forward with that. It's so good that
you're getting stuck into this so early in life.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
You're going to go a long way, Papa, how good
sweet Apple scrunches. Go check her out on Facebook and
Instagram and welcome to the show.

Speaker 28 (01:32:34):
Oh hello, I was listening to you on my way
home from Palmerston North and I don't make anything, but
you were talking about New Zealand gifts.

Speaker 6 (01:32:44):
Now.

Speaker 28 (01:32:44):
A few years ago I got a group booking of
twelve to go to wet A workshop for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Oh yes, and it was cheaper than buy and twelve
presents and fantastic. I've been there before and it's an
amazing experience.

Speaker 28 (01:33:00):
Well none of them have been there. And for some
people like I thought of going out to the island,
but some of them have done that, so we couldn't
do that. Some people, you know, I know it's a
bit of a shop when you price what it costs
to have an experience and go to the zoo if

(01:33:21):
you've got a number to take, it's quite surprising. But
I was also thinking that for people who don't have
a lot of money, take the kids to a swimming
pool they don't usually go to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah, that's a fantastic idea, Thank you so much. And experiences, yeah,
you know, sometimes experiences last longer than physical gifts.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Absolutely, they go a long way. What a great discussion.
So it's the text to ask could we put all
the businesses up online? But we've had so many through
and our digital man is at the Christmas party having
probably too much of a good time. Oh my goodness,
it's pretty crazy the photos.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
He's a shamuzzle. Yeah, he's a disgrace.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
You did this to yourself, brother, But here we go.
So a quick run through the businesses who called through.
White Stone Cheese, good people, sustain and grow, the Greenstone Shop,
Shoreline Studio, Tumbleweed Teas, Power blue Pearls, do not disturb,
Sleep Company, great imasks of course, the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Knee I'm buying from them for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Yea, yeah, good people, Nesian Elements lamps which are beautiful lamps.
We also had Tea Leaf Tea down in Wellington, Kiwe
Car Games, Jayworld Photography and Sweet Apple Crunches by Pepper.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Yeah, oh how good.

Speaker 6 (01:34:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I feel full of Christmas spirit and chair and vigor
meto and you know, positive New Zealand vibes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Give them a taste, as you say to Key Wei
this Christmas. People have plenty of ideas out there. Fantastic discussion.
Thank you very much right now though it is twenty
seven past three and the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
New Zealander of the Week is up next.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Super excited for that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
You talk, said the headlines.

Speaker 7 (01:35:01):
What's blue bubble tax? See it's no trouble with the
blue bubble. Surprise from the victims. At the twenty six
month prisons sentence handed out to former Glory of Vale
leader Howard Temple, most expected he would be given home
to tention because of his age, his eighty five and
his deteriorating health. Unions are slamming the government's forty five

(01:35:21):
cent minimum wage increase, with the PSA calling it cruel
and calculated. The minimum wage will rise to twenty three
dollars and ninety five cents from April next year. Fire
and Emergency received twenty two emergency calls during a one
hour planned action by union members this afternoon. Twelve of
the calls were in areas impacted by the strike. They

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included two medical emergencies, a residential gas leak, and a
small backyard fire Inland. Revenue has rectified an error affecting
more than one hundred and fifty thousand student loans. Some
will receive a credit or refund. An average of ten dollars,
while others will see interest added and then immediately written off.

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And in the cricket, New Zealand have won the Second
Test in Wellington against the West Indies by nine wickets.
In New Zealand ditches new flight safety video and cost crunch.
You can see this and more from Media Insider at
nsaid Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams, The.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Matteath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
It's time once again for our show's most popular segment,
the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of
the Week. Thank you so much for your hundreds of
nominations on nine two ninety two. But as always, there
can be only one. And remember the winner may not
always be a sentient being, but they will be a
kiwi and they will have been talked about on the

(01:36:48):
show and they will have had an outsized effect on
our great and beautiful land. So, without further punishing admin,
here is the first runner up. The day may come
for you as it has come for this man, when
we must stand up to an logical uncaring power. Earlier

(01:37:11):
this year, This Auckland gentleman was unloading year to help
restore the thirty million dollar council back Saint James Theater
project when Auckland Transport slapped him with a fine in
a peak eight move. No provision for stopping has been made,
so they took him to court.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
That the prosecutor suggested that you know public transport can
be used to help load and this as ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
It's inopical for standing up for common sense and taking
on an illogical bureaucracy. Steve Belby, you are our second
runner up for New Zealander of the Week. A diamond
in flu now onto our first runner up.

Speaker 29 (01:37:52):
These two kiwis just relegated Australia's beloved royal heidiness Bunnyman
Oags and number two Lord and Her songwriter producer Joe
Little for creating Royals and winning Rolling Stone's Best Australasian
Song of the twenty first century.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
You are first runner up the New Zealander of the Week.
You're having a Christmas party today, Well, it's not a
Christmas party.

Speaker 7 (01:38:16):
It's a non denominational holiday mixer.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
It's not happening.

Speaker 9 (01:38:19):
What all branch Christmas parties are canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
All right, it's canceled.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
A few moments later.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Tuday, this week's winner isn't a person.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
It's an institution. An institution under attack from the evil
Health and Safety at Work Act and an anti fun
agenda that missing trops across the land want to force
on the fun loving rest of us. But we say nay.
Tis the time of the year to costume, up raise
a glass and celebrate twelve months of hard work together,

(01:38:53):
the great New Zealand Work Christmas. Do you bring us together?
You put an exclamation mark at the end of the year.
You are the man. He and Tyler Adams Afternoons New
Zealander of the Week and if you go to one,
just make sure you don't do what one text in
the show this week did it their and soil yourself.

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Take it away, Howie Morrison.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
News Talk z B. When Sir Terrorist John Clark passed
away in twenty seventeen, the world mourned and icon, a
defining comedic voice who wrote and appeared in numerous films
and TV productions, and scured political hypocrisy for almost thirty
years on Current Affairs show. He gave away very little
about his own life, a new documentary, Not Only fred

(01:40:01):
Dagg is a remarkable series of recorded conversations between John
and his daughter, writer director Lauren Clark, which traces his
stead fast resistance to authority back to his childhood and
offers incredible insights into his incredible life. The film is
out in theaters on Boxing Day here in New Zealand.
Joining us now is writer and director and of course,
Jean Clark's daughter, Lauren Clark. Nice to see you, Lauren.

Speaker 9 (01:40:22):
No, so nice to be here, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Yeah, thank you so much for coming in now. You know,
John Clark's a bit of an enigma for me. I've
watched him my whole life, you know, both the stuff
he did in New Zealand and then in Australia. Incredible
man and obviously he made millions of people laugh. What
was he like at home? Was a house full of
sharp satirical comments.

Speaker 9 (01:40:46):
He was a boring bastard.

Speaker 22 (01:40:47):
No, he was lovely and very funny and I one
of the things I wanted to sort of celebrate in
this film is like, you know, when you see somebody's
work and you like it and you think I'm connecting
with this, I think I know who this person is.

Speaker 9 (01:41:02):
And then you find out that they murder people on
the weekends or something.

Speaker 22 (01:41:07):
I quite liked, you know, I took it a bit seriously,
the job of sort of coloring in a little bit
what I think he and his audience did together over decades,
which is kind of have this connection through a wink
down the camera. Although he didn't give you much about

(01:41:27):
who he was as a person, you sort of got
a sense of who he was and a little bit
the part of this project is me saying, and you
were right, that is who he was.

Speaker 9 (01:41:36):
So yeah, at home, he was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
He sort of gave people a wink at what they
were like in broad strokes of what New Zealanders were
like and Australians. Right, he was great at marrowing, mirror
mirror ring, mirror ring.

Speaker 9 (01:41:50):
He did mirror very well.

Speaker 22 (01:41:53):
No, he was a studier of humans, so he had
this like innate curiosity that I think he would have
had if he was a panel beater, but he he
like that became part of his sort of if he
had a quest in life, like if he came in here,
he'd need to know how many people were between you know,

(01:42:15):
you and him, So he if there was like a
Kiwi barista in Fitzroy. He would leave and he'd say,
now her auntie, I went to school with my sister
Anna or whatever. And because he was that curiosity, he
was the curious cat, right, And I think you can
see that. He used to say, MY big strength is

(01:42:36):
that I come from my audience, and I.

Speaker 9 (01:42:38):
Love I love.

Speaker 22 (01:42:41):
Sort of that collaborative, playful thing with language that people
do with when they sort of get together.

Speaker 9 (01:42:47):
It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Did you notice that as a daughter? You mean, it's
mentioned in the documentary in film that, as you say,
a big curiosity of people. Did you notice that growing up?
And then when he created these such iconic characters, your
pinpoint elements of I can see where dad got that from.

Speaker 22 (01:43:03):
Oh, I mean there's a direct line right which you
just which is it's too silly. But when I was
a kid, when it was our birthday party and all
her neighborhood kids would come over and there'd be cake
and stuff, but they'd also be past the parcel, that
game where you pass a parcel around, and back in
the olden days when I was a child, you would

(01:43:24):
get a you'd get a next layer and there'd be
nothing in it. And then the next kid would get
it and there'd be another lane and be nothing in it.
So the point of the game was to publicly disappoint
each child, one by one final child, and he didn't
love that.

Speaker 9 (01:43:38):
So he would be the paper collector.

Speaker 22 (01:43:42):
So once you unwrapped your miserable non gift, you would
hand him the paper and he would not quite catch it,
and then he'd fall over and then he'd and the
hysterics that he would wind us all up into would
make this the point. So you didn't care if you
got to think. But I as a kid would look
at fred dag falling over a fence backwards or or

(01:44:05):
you know, just the sort of physical comedy that he
started at with, and I think I know that guy
from my loud for it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
He had a dislike of authority and at some point
in the film, you know, it's mentioned that he was
the most cane guy at his school, had the record, right,
So how much do you think, you know, the events
of his life played into that dislike of authority or
pushing back of authority, And how do you think that
came through in his work.

Speaker 22 (01:44:34):
Yeah, I think that was a key thing, and you
can see that there were a lot of people, and
not in a particularly you know, on the scale of things,
not in a really violent way or anything, but a
lot of people kept telling my father when he was
very young that he would amount to nothing. And I

(01:44:54):
think if enough people tell you that, you sort of
you can react a few ways. And the way he
seems to have reacted was to think internally, m, I reckon,
that's not quite what you mean.

Speaker 9 (01:45:07):
I don't I reckon, You're quite right, I reckon, I'll
be all right, and to sort of just.

Speaker 22 (01:45:14):
Like you know, presume that he was separate from that
in some way, and I think that you can see
that in his work forever.

Speaker 9 (01:45:24):
But he was allergic to it.

Speaker 22 (01:45:25):
I mean, if somebody tried to assert authority for a
reason that he didn't understand, he'd try and understand the reason,
and then if the person just kept saying because I
say so, he would make life so incredibly annoying for
that person.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
Yeah, his encouragement of other creators and other people doing
fantastic work. Do you think that's a part of where
that comes from? That clearly he would celebrate and give
people encouragement. And there's a beautiful line there that when
you give them there. They can use that for later,
or they can use that at the time. But is
there maybe something he felt he didn't get when he
was younger, so it was important to pass on to

(01:46:01):
other people.

Speaker 9 (01:46:02):
I think it's a little bit that.

Speaker 22 (01:46:04):
And it's a little bit that when somebody says something
to you like that in the creative context, you know,
you're not getting paid a million dollars. You're not There's
not a sort of system in the creative world where
you can see yourself climbing up a ladder. This sort
of isn't a lot there. There's not really much scolding,

(01:46:24):
and so when somebody says, like a few people did
say it to Dad, you know, Barry Humphrey said it
to him, Spike Milligan said it to him, Peter Cook
said it to him.

Speaker 9 (01:46:34):
Those things go a long way. And when you are
in a position to do something like.

Speaker 22 (01:46:40):
That yourself, it feels, like he used to say, it
feels like part of the job of being a creative
person to sort of, you know, open your arms and.

Speaker 9 (01:46:49):
Go, hey, I see yah, yeah, you're part of this.
It's fun, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Speaking of seeing people, there's obviously a huge amount of
public footage, and there was a lot of archive footage,
but there was a lot of personal resources as well
that go into the stock of entry. Were there moments
where you go, this is for the f and not
for the documentary. Was there a differentiation?

Speaker 22 (01:47:13):
My mother said to me, you just reminded me when
you ask you that question, because I did laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
She said.

Speaker 22 (01:47:19):
At one point it was quite a way through the edit.
She said to me, the editor sounds brilliant because I
was working. We worked very closely together. I said, his, mum,
he's so brilliant, and we you know, it's a really
difficult task trying to bring together the story and make
it full full, sort of in the right order, in
the right way.

Speaker 9 (01:47:37):
And he's so brilliant. And she said, I hope I
never meet him. And I said, I beg your pardon,
and she said, he has seen so many hours of
the most boring footage of our life.

Speaker 22 (01:47:51):
Because Dad insisted on recording things. He just would put
I mean, there is footage that's in the film of
he's obviously put the camera on like a bookshelf or something.
He's standing there, I'm on the phone. Nothing's happening in it,
you know. So she did meet Alec in the end,
and you know it was lovely, but that that was
such a revealing comment because yeah, there's a lot of

(01:48:15):
stuff there that's too boring for words, and but you know,
in a way, like one of the things I love
about it is those boring bits show you him.

Speaker 9 (01:48:26):
You know, like there's a voicemail in the film, because
because I sort of like you yourself.

Speaker 22 (01:48:33):
When you're leaving a voicemail for someone in your family,
aren't you you have one hundred percent performing for them?

Speaker 6 (01:48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Absolutely, so great when people have note put the diffident
in their life to create the footage that's needed to
tell a story, like that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Done that, Yeah, big help.

Speaker 22 (01:48:49):
Although you know, to be honest, he could have thrown
out the odd envelope. I mean, I have the stuff
that he's left us with has been so brilliant. Part
of the reason why I think we did the film
ourselves rather than have somebody else do is we just
had so much stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:49:05):
But yeah, it is, there's so much.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
And we're loving this chat. If you're right to just
hold here with us for a few more moments, We've
got plenty more to ask you. We are, of course
talking with Lauren Clark, john Clark's daughter, whose film Not
Only fred Dagg hits New Zealand cinemas on Boxing Day.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
More in a moment, have a chat with the lads
On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt Heathan Tyler
Adams Afternoons News Talk sa'd.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Be thirteen to four and our special guest is Lauren Clark,
daughter of John Clark, whose film Not Only fred Dagg
is in New Zealand cinemas on Boxing Day.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Tell us about your career that led up to you
being able to make this film.

Speaker 22 (01:49:45):
I've got a career as a creative person myself, and
I always kind of wanted to keep it separate from
Dad because he was, you know, he cussed a bit
of a shadow. It was a benevolent shadow, but it
was Yeah, so I sort of wanted to be slightly separate.
But I was a writer and a performer and a
director in theater and I did often kids tea. My

(01:50:09):
biggest claim to fame is my involvement in an episode
of Blue. I have worked for decades as in radio.
That was my job for years. I've worked in radio
in Melbourne, so when it came time to do this.
I remember explaining to some of the people who came
to me and said, hey, what if we told the story.
I remember saying, yes, but you know, you need to

(01:50:31):
do this, this, this, And the more I said it,
the more I thought, oh, damn it, I'm going to
do this myself.

Speaker 9 (01:50:36):
But yeah, there's my work slightly different, you can see.

Speaker 22 (01:50:40):
So I did a thing called The Fitzroy Diaries, which
is an audio serial kind of serialized radio play with
a cast of brilliant Australian actors, and I'm in it too,
and it's we did three series of that commission by
the ABC. It's a podcast as well, and in it
you can see kind of you know, a few people

(01:51:02):
have noted since they figured out the connection between me
and him, that there are some of those things about
like noseous people and stuff that you can see in
my work that's also in his.

Speaker 9 (01:51:12):
So when it came to sort of.

Speaker 22 (01:51:14):
Collaborating with him posthumously for this film, which is what
it felt like, we had so much of him talking
about himself, he actually felt kind of natural, like it
didn't feel.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Like such a stretch to making the documentary change any
understanding your head of your dad, you had so many
incredible people who you interviewed and so much of that
incredible footage. Was there anything you found out during that
process that you thought, hey, I didn't quite know that.

Speaker 9 (01:51:41):
I think the New Zealand part of it.

Speaker 22 (01:51:44):
For me, I knew it all in theory back academically,
on paper, I had it, but being sort of invited
back and talking to people I'd never met and sometimes
he did it never met, you know, and talking about
the impact that that character had here, and also as

(01:52:06):
an Australian and outsider also, you know, there was always
this thing why did John Clark leave New Zealand. It
was to have a baby in Australia. So there's like
a kind of Yoko element to my existence. So I
kind of was like, how's this going to go? And
I think for me, it wasn't so much the facts
that surprised me, but it was how much I just

(01:52:28):
felt like, oh, I'm here now, and it just was
such a It was moving and it was meaningful for
me on a personal level, you know, because it's a
creative work, so I kind of it's my job.

Speaker 9 (01:52:39):
But then when I was here, I went, oh, hello, no,
it's a little bit more than that isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
Congratulations, It's a beautiful film and incredibly insightful and Kiwi's
get down there. You're going to absolutely love it. But
love chatting with you.

Speaker 9 (01:52:51):
Thanks guys, this has been great.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
We'll catch up again so much. You can stuck around, Yeah,
you can stick around as if.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
You want to do some talk back with us. I'd
like some parking issues.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
So I hope.

Speaker 9 (01:53:04):
So the bread and butter of all good radio. Thank
you so much for having.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Me, Thank you for coming. And that is Lauren Clark.
Not only fred Dagg is in theaters Boxing Day, Go
and see it. It is brilliant. You're listening to News
Talk Zed Bebag very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks,
ed B, News.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Talks the B seven to four. How amazing is Lauren Clark?
What an incredible daughter of an incredible man.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Yes, so when is that movie?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Ut so, not only fred Dagg. It is in cinemas
around the country on Boxing Day and well worth a watch.
It's incredible, all that family footage and a brilliant, brilliant icon.
So so funny. It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Yeah, she was awesome. Hey, thank you so much for
listening every one. As always, we've loved your chat. It's
been a great old time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Yes, and we get so many great people ringing into
the show that every week we pick a caller of
the week, and this week we were having a chat
about taking pride in mowing your own boom when Andy
gave us a buzz And even when the christ Church
earthquake mounted their house in half the streets of New Brighton,
her husband still took his boom responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Seriously, our house was rubbish.

Speaker 30 (01:54:12):
I haven't fallen down. It was just it was chaos.

Speaker 14 (01:54:15):
It was like Bosnia and war time.

Speaker 30 (01:54:17):
Anyway, he's out there morying the booth and people, of course,
the red rubber eating driving past our house. He's out
there mowing the boom and people were just throwing remote,
laughing at them, taking photos. And he still loves the boom.
He's constantly planting things. I've got tulips coming up in spring.
I've got a new colosy tree. But the guy across

(01:54:39):
the road old Andy, different Andy, obviously, but he's out
there with us. What looks like nails sizzers a couple
of times a wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Good people, the people.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
It's a great call. The great New Zealander Ryan Bridge
isn't going to the work Christmas party. He'll be with
you for Drive after four pm. The podcast of our
show will be up in about now. But Tyler, my
good friend, tell me why am I playing this particular song?

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
This is beautiful Christmas in New Zealand's who's the artist?
Who's the singer? It's Dennis mad.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
Because we were saying before. When you're buy a New
Zealand made Christmas present, you give two gifts, one to
the person you love and one to a local business,
so it's win win.

Speaker 25 (01:55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
How beautiful water song.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Very funky based in this New Zealand Christmas song, very kiwi.
All right, have a great weekend everyone until Monday after noon,
Merry Christmas and you give them a taste a kiwi
from Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 24 (01:55:41):
I love you.

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Leave your work behind and have your holiday.

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And try to keep things simple on your Christmas Day.

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