Full Show Podcast: 13 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hell are you Great, New Zealands? And Welcome to Mountain
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one forty five for Friday
the thirteenth of June twenty twenty five. I just realized
it was a Friday the thirteenth. A lot of fall
on stuff. Was that Friday the thirteenth? When the plane
went down? Was that Friday the thirteenth. I guess it's
not really bad luck when someone bombs another country? Is
that it's more purposeful?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Full moon as well? Does that Lincoln to Friday the thirteenth?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Anyway, it was a fantastic show. Wait wait till the
end and the call we get from a guy.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Called Owen, oh so good, so good.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
On the intergenerational behavior in bars and restaurants, and it
really takes quite a quite a strange turn. I got
to say, yep, and look, I lost it. To be fair,
I couldn't keep talking to him on the phone call
anymore because I lost it.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh and if you're listening, we love you, man, We
love you. It was a great story.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It was a great call. But very funny anyway, Tyler.

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Speaker 4 (01:16):
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Speaker 5 (01:26):
The.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Hell load of you welcome into Friday show. Always feel
good on a Friday into the working week for most
of us. Hope you're feeling good where of you're listening
in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Get a Matt, get a Tyler, get everyone hey before
you know ACTU Full disclosure. We start the show at twelve,
but it only goes nationwide at one. Right, Yeah, so
at the twelve o'clock hour, so our Auckland and Wellington
and christ Church listeners will have heard this. I was
talking about how I bought matching track pants and tracksuits

(01:57):
for me and my partner to walk our dog, and
with matching shoes. She's refusing to wear them, and I
just put the question out, you know what's wrong with her?
Why wouldn't you not want to? We are matching outfit
with me and it looks like uh. One of the
text coming back through or saying that it's creepy to
wear the same thing as super creepy.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and the track suit aspect as well.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I mean it's lovely, isn't it. Wasn't that a nice
gest you wanted to dress exactly like your partner to
walk the dog.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
The whole get up, Matt. I mean if you started
off with matching jumpers, maybe maybe you would have got
away with it.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Matt. Couples who dressed the same in publisher as a crime?
Are you five? You will look like inmates drink the
kool aid cult member. Oh dear, that is so sad.
Must be an Auckland thing. Cute on kids, embarrassing on
people your age. There you go. I love matching outfits.
Big thumbs up from Aaron. That you go.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
And Aaron loves it.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Love matching. It's cool and cute. There you go. Wendy thinks.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And this one, Matt, you remind me of Kath and
cow They love it. They love a matching outfit, and
they did. They did a great, great TV show. But
that was a comedy, so people were meant to laugh
at those people.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
No, I think people see us walking around in our
matching track suits with matching shoes, holding hands, walking the
dog and they think lovely right.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
If you get Tracy across the line, can you please
take a photo of it? I'd love to see it
to today's show after three o'clock, as we always do
on a Friday, New Zealander of the week. Who will
it be?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Have you say on nine two nine two. It hasn't
been locked in stone yet. We've got a good idea
who it might be, but we'd love to hear your
feedback on who the new Zealander of the week should be.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
And also after three o'clock. This has been on the
table for some time. This is third time lucky and
three strikes. If we don't get it to it today,
we're not going to get to whatever. But watch generation
is the worst behaved at pubs according to bartenders.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah. Is it the Zoomers or the boomers, or the
gen X or the millennials? It will surprise you certainly well.
And if we don't get to this, we're never doing
it because we've teased it for three days in a row.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Exactly after two o'clock. It is the second to last
day of Field Days today, arguably the biggest event on
the calendar for the rural community in New Zealand. It's
huge and by all accounts it looks like a lot
of positivity, a lot of buoyancy at field days.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Absolutely, farmers seem hugely positive. They're fizzing and buy tractors
down at field days. I was watching on a Herald
now this morning, a live cross with Ryan Bridge, and
the farmers were absolutely fizzing, and a few years back
they weren't. They were feeling no love from the rest
of the New Zealand and they were really, really, really struggling.
So I just want to ask the question, do farmers
feel like the rest of us appreciate them now? And urbanites,

(04:28):
are you grateful to farmers as they spearhead our recovery
or are you still on there There are a bunch
of dirty polluters bars, let's restrict them up the wazoo.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, that's going to be a great chat. That is
after two o'clock and right now, very shortly we're going
to have a chat to an aviation expert. But we
want to hear from you so desperately. Tragic news last night.
Two hundred and ninety bodies have been recovered so far
following the Air India plane crash in Madabad. So the
Bowing seven eight seven dream Liner crashed into a doctor's
hostel right after take off heading for London. Just one

(05:01):
of the two hundred and forty two on board has survived.
It appears he flung himself out through the emergency e exits.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wow, it's so terrifying. Speaking of which, if you're scared
of flying, to horrible accidents like this make you less
likely to fly because there's so much horrible footage of
it out there, because it is twenty twenty five and
there's a lot of people filming on phones. And do
you fly some airlines over others over safety concerns? Would
you pay more for an airline you perceive to be safer?

(05:30):
And also have you gotten over a fear of flying?
Of so how did you do it?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And just this footage put you back where you started.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Love to hear from you on oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And also throughout the hour off you may have heard
Israel has struck several of Iran's nuclear facilities and dozens
of military targets across Iran. Israel has and we'll keep
you up to dated with any news that breaks around
that issue.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Absolutely. We're all big story. That one right coming up,
We're going to have a chat to Peter Clark, aviation
expert and commentator and get his thoughts, but love to
hear your thoughts about this accident as well. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks that'd.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Be It is fourteen past one, So India is set
to lead an investigation into a plane crash in a
Marbad which is killed at least two hundred and ninety
The Air India bowe in seven eight seven dreamliner crashed
into a doctor's hostel right after takeoff heading for London's
Gatwik Airport. To discuss this further, we're joined by aviation
expert and commentator Peter Clark. Peter, thank you very much

(06:40):
for your time here.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
A good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Now, Peter Summer suggesting a duel engine failure. How plausible
is it that both engines could fail simultaneously on takeoff?

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Well, it's it's very unusual. We did see it with
the crash in the rivers of New York once that
did happen there, you know, yep, But double engine failure
is extremely rare, and to have it happen, there's got
to be either a bird strike or something else that
has failed.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm here. Tobad does have a high
incidence of bird strikes, though, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
I'm not sure about that. I haven't been able to
ascertain that. But the only reason that we know it's
possibly a double strike is that during the May day
call it is heard that he said no thrus losing power,
unable to lift off, But none of that has been
really confirmed at this stage.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean it will be, but speculative at this stage,
wouldn't it. But you know, when I've watched the footage
grim footage from a number of angles and it I mean,
I don't know if you would from a long way back,
but you can't see a lot of birds in the air.

Speaker 9 (07:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
There's been a bit of talk Peter about the position
of the wing flaps. Is there anything in that. I
understand it's nearly forty degrees that take off. Does that
high temperature impact the position of the of the wing flaps?
In a seven eight seven look.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
It was forty degrees temperature at that airfield, but to
have taken off normally and had risen, so if it
had an engine problem, they possibly couldn't retract the undercarriage.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
We don't know this.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
And the flaps, that has been very speculative. Some people
have said you can see flaps, but they don't necessarily
use forty degrees. Forty degrees is used more of the
higher flat numbers for landing and lower numbers for takeoff.
But this will all have to come out of the
flight data recorder, which I am led to believe at

(08:38):
the stage has been retrieved.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
The seven eight seven Dreamliner. Tell us about this aircraft.
It is being known to be one of the safest
well look.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
It was launched in April two thousand and four. It
had its first flight in December two thousand and nine,
and after experiencing quite a few delays with fasteners and
other problems, it received certification in August twenty eleven and
it was first delivered a seven eight seven eight same

(09:09):
as this aircraft we're talking about, to A and A
on the eighth Decenttember two thousand and eleven. I was
part of all of those processes, being in Seattle to
see all of them, and I have the greatest faith
in this aircraft so much if it has gone into it.
It's a new generation carbon fiber aircraft of the same

(09:30):
family as we're now seeing being developed by Airbus with
the A three fifty, but that came well after the
development of the Boeing seven eight seven. Initially it did
have some problems with batteries, but they were not part
of the Boeing seven eight seven problems. And we have
seen engine problems recently, and those engine problems nothing to

(09:55):
do with the seven eight seven as an aircraft.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Were speaking to aviation expert Peter Klark speaking of a
safety records, what's the safety record like for Air India.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
Air India's had a bit of a checkered past, but
I think in the last eight to ten years they've
moved forward. They've gone through quite a few management changes
within the airline. They used to operate fairly old aircraft
and then they went into the series of seven eight sevens,
so they've got twenty seven of these aircraft and they

(10:33):
have been operating very successfully. There is some reports this
aircraft in the day before suffered some technical issues and
that has been noted, but all of this is just
speculation and will have to come out of the data
data information. As of February twenty two, there was, sorry,

(10:55):
twenty twenty five, there was one one hundred and eighty
nine of these aircraft flying of this type in this family.
So they are out there and they've had a very
successful operational period.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Now this is a tragic story because I believe his
brother was on the plane with him. But a sole
passenger looks like this survive. What are the chances of
that happening? And if we have any idea how he
managed to survive this crash, I.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
Think that that at the moment, we have no idea.
He walked away, I'm led to believe from the accident,
so he was next to the ball, not the bulkhead,
the cabin fuselage, something there probably saved him. But the
plane disintegrated when it finally hit the grand ground. But
there has been single, single pilot, I'm sorry, single passenger

(11:48):
survivals in the past, and they have happened. But eleven A,
I think everyone will be rushing for that seat on
the seven eight seven, But there is no way we
know why he survived in that position.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, you've been talking about the
great record of this particular seven eight seven, but Boeing
things they've had been in the news a bit of late.
Are Boeing aircraft something to worry about? Are there's systems
something to look into?

Speaker 10 (12:18):
Look?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
I think Boeing is like any other manufacturer. We only
hear of the incidents that are severe or tragic. All
aircraft have incidents and operational problems. But I think with
the way we look at aviation today, there is so
much management that goes into safety and things do happen.

(12:40):
We are humans and they are mechanical, so we've got
to move forward. Boeing has had some problems, but I
would still fly on Boeing aircraft. I have no hesitation
at all to go on there. And there's a classic
saying if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, well very good. Yeah. Peter Clark, aviation commentator and expert,
thank you very much for your time, and we are
going to open it up to you now really can
to get your thoughts on this. So e one hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, if you're scared of flying, do horrible accidents like
this will make you less likely to fire And are
there a ticket airlines that you don't like to fly
because you believe that they are less safe than others.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it is twenty one past one, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic hsking breakfair.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
Interesting stats on our public service workforces down three point
one percent.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
What's that meaning jobs? Well, two thousand are gone, but
quarterly we now have a zero point four percent increase,
Cameron Bagri independent economists with.

Speaker 11 (13:39):
Us that old sort of adage about this lies as
damn lies and statistics. Now, so if I will look
at goverment first and our expenses are up three point
one percent, that doesn't personify too much of a tightening
in regard to what's going on. So there might be
a little bit of hodgepodging.

Speaker 10 (13:53):
There's a lot of writer.

Speaker 11 (13:54):
For about the government tightening the belt, but all the
savings are backloaded for the structural gift, so it's still
deteriorating over the coming twelve months. It's going to get worse.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Back Monday, from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with
the Defender oct News Talks.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Be twenty four past one, Good afternoon, toue, and we
are discussing the Air India plane crash. Incredibly tragic, incredibly sad.
But does it change anything for you when it comes
to flying.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
This Texas says, I only fly in New Zealand because
of their safety reckon, because I trust them to do
proper maintenance. You take your life into your hands. With
most of the world's airlines. Yeah, well, I mean that's
that's a rough call. Ear travel is incredibly staffe You
know that this makes global news when there's a plane
crash because I like this because it is so incredibly rare.

(14:41):
I mean, you look at India, just aar India on
its own six hundred weekly flights with a fleet of
two hundred and eight aircraft. I mean although May ten,
May twenty ten they did ever crash, killing one hundred
and fifty eight and wow, August twenty twenty they had
a crash and a seven three seven roll down an

(15:02):
embankment and kill twenty one. Yeah, so I mean they've
got a little bit in their past.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
They certainly do. Yeah, a chicken past is. As Peter
Clark said before, I'm gotta tell you the only time
I was genuinely scared on an airline was lying here.
It's an Indonesian airline, and they also have a rather
chicken pass. But it was because it was a smaller plane.
It was going from Bangkok to the islands, and it

(15:27):
was flying very low and the turbulence was next level.
And that was the only time that I thought this
may be yet. But other than that, any airline that
I've flown, and I've followen on some airlines that would
be considered, you know, down the bottom in terms of
their safety, in terms of how they rated in the world,
And I've never thought I feel unsafe for here. I mean,

(15:48):
the food is crap, but I never feel unsafe.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Never flying on a plane. Never would. This footage only
proves my point unsafe. You can't say that planes are unsafe.
You can't say that faster your planes are unsafe. I
think in terms of forms of transport, I think the
only two that are safer are probably lifts and escalators.
I think walking, you know, walking around town is less safe.

(16:13):
I think it's considerably less safe from being on a plane.
Matt and Titler. The pilot's first words after may Day
were no thrust. That is the reason enough to ground
all seven eight sevens. There are other factors which show
up in the footage. The width of the wings are
too narrow for the size of the air flight and
tight situations. The undercar carriage being down didn't help. Then
the two engines may also have been not enough for

(16:33):
the size of the aircraft in an emergency. It is
interesting that both both engines went out and I'm a
bad as famous for bird strikes. A bunch of pilots
have been appairing that. I've been seeing interviews going, yeah,
there's a lot of birds around there, so but you
know they have to both engines at the same time,

(16:54):
don't they. But it's all speculation at these At this point,
it is this six. It says, I'm flying and an
air New Zealand seven eight seven to Shanghai tonight. I
have no worries at all about the aircraft. She has
been and I think that's sane.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yep, Jeff, what you'll think thoughts about this?

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Yeah, hi mate? Yeah, Well, you know the only scare
I ever had on a plane, I flew from Auckland
to Risbone and repairing news on and they turned the plane.
This is quite a while ago. I'm not going to
run the air new Zone down because they got a
pretty good record. But they made an announcement that they

(17:36):
were turning the plane around. They didn't exactly say why,
but it came the truth came out that there was
one of the engines was breaking down. And I'm glad
they didn't tell us on the plane because a look
of people's faces when they said they were heading back.

(18:00):
Heading back. They didn't say because of engine failure. They
just said that there was a problem with the plane
and they were dropping they would bring it in. But
apart from that, you know of flowing tire, airlines, of flown,

(18:21):
lots of planes ben and lots of planes and lots
of places. So you know that that guy, that guy
who bailed out of the emergency door. That was just incredible.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
How many times?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
What's amazing about that? I mean, I don't know if
it's truth, there's just speculation. A lot of people are
texting it through. I've read it in a couple of
places that it bailed out the emergency door. But they
were in the air for thirty seconds. So to to
make that decision, to realize that there's something going wrong
from a passenger point of view, undo your seep out

(19:00):
and bail out. Yeah, I mean that if that's the
way it happened, that's that was an incredible situation, right, I.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Mean, it's like enough that he's the only survivor and
the latest that I read they managed to have a
chat with him. He doesn't remember what happened, but perhaps
he was sucked out eleven A. Is that by the
emergency exit?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, I don't know. I don't know. The late we
should have have a look at the layout of the plane.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But being the only survivor, I mean that.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Is eleven A and a seven eight seven Dreamliner.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, I wait. One hundred AC thank you very
much for your call. Gif I eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. This very
tragic plane crash in India doesn't change how you feel
about say about flying and do you pick particular airlines
because of their safety record?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Hey, Matt and Tyler, do you know that the CEO
of Air India is from christ Church and was educated
at my old high school, Shirley Boys. Heighs she's Greg. Yeah,
we did, Thanks for that, but we talked about in
the last hour, but quite a key we connection.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
There absolutely headlines with railing coming up, then will take
more of your calls. It's twenty nine past one.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Did youse talks at the headlines with.

Speaker 12 (20:10):
Blue bubble taxis It's no trouble with a blue bubble.
Israel has launched what it called preemptive strikes against Iran
and is preparing for retaliation. Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz
has declared a special state of emergency across the country
and expects an attack in the immediate future. The family

(20:31):
of Yan Fei Bauer asking the High Court to issue
the highest possible penalty to her killer. Chinese national Ting
Jun Chao is being sentenced today for murdering the forty
four year old real estate agent in christ Church in
twenty twenty three. Doctors in Ahmedabad say the lone survivor
of an Air India plane crash isn't badly injured. The

(20:52):
Boeing seven eight seven Dreamliner heading for London crashed into
a doctor's hostel shortly after takeoff. The only survivor flung
himself out through the emergency exit. Central North Island schools
are getting thirty two more classrooms as part of a
redevelopment package announced by the government today at New Zealand
Fashion Week will return this year thanks to a new

(21:14):
sponsorship deal motoring company Giltrap committing for three years. Napier
business owners facing rise and aggressive behavior linked to drug
use and mental health issues. You can read more at
Ins and Herall Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyner Adams.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Thank you very much, ray Lean and we are talking
about this desperately tragic air crash over in India. Two
hundred and ninety people have been recovered now following that crash.
The Bowing seven eight seven Dreamliner, as we now know,
crashed into a doctor's hostel right after take off. They
were in the air for about thirty seconds and investigations

(21:50):
are clearly underway to find out what happened. But the
question we've asked is does is change anything for you
in terms of how you fly. Do you pick particular
airlines because how you feel about their safety?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah? And a Boeing seven eight seven eight Dreamline, a
seat eleven is typically located near the front of the
economy class cabin along the left hand window. When facing forward.
It is a window seat, usually part of the first
or second row of economy class, depending on the airline's configuration.
Just looking at it here, and it is the seat
eleven A is right behind the door which serves as
the emergency exits and crisis situations. So it's pure stick

(22:24):
speculation here. And it is funny A few people are
texting through saying this lucky guy. I understand that his
brother was on the plane beside him, so he certainly
would not be feeling lucky. And he's going to be
for an interesting time being the one survivor from a plane,
and you can only imagine what that does to you psychologically. Yeah,
but I just find it incredible that someone in a
less than thirty seconds that plane was in the air

(22:47):
to notice something was wrong and then pull the lever
and jump out. It just doesn't it just doesn't seem
possible to me.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
It is insane, isn't it. I mean, like many people,
when I saw that footage, and it's pretty harrowing footage,
of course, when you see the plane go down and
the explosion, instantly I thought there's no one surviving. That
have this one person survive is insane. There's not other
word for it.

Speaker 12 (23:13):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Really,
can you get your thoughts about this this afternoon, Debra,
you were on a emergency landing on a flight that
you were on.

Speaker 13 (23:25):
Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 14 (23:26):
I'm not sure how to run this thing here, but.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
We can hear you.

Speaker 15 (23:29):
Be clear.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
We can hear you loud and clear. Deborah.

Speaker 14 (23:33):
Oh great, Well, I think it was about nine years ago.
My husband and I were leaving Brisbane on an in
New Zealand back to Auckland, and we're about twenty minutes
out of Brisbane Airport and there was this loud bang
and then the lights went out came back on again
straight away, and I said to my husband what was that?

(23:57):
And we looked out we were sitting in one A
and one B and he looked out his window and
and went, fudge, you want to see what's out here?
And the whole engine on the wing had fallen out
of the sky, just fallen out, the whole cowl and
everything had all gone off the wing and anyway, straight

(24:21):
away the captain came on and said, we're going to
have to head back to Brisbane to but we've got
to do a few rounds to get rid of some fuel.
So we sort of taxied around in the air for
maybe another twenty minutes, and then we looked over to

(24:45):
the airport and we could see all the emergency lights
sort of, you know, getting ready for us to come in.
And anyway, at the stage, everyone had to tighten their
seat belts and it was quite calm in the cabin
and the air hostesses they were sitting in their seats
and everyone was very calm, and we could see were

(25:08):
getting lower, lower lower towards the airport, and then all
of a sudden, the captain came on and said brace, brace, brace,
like yelled, yelled and this, and the air hostesses were
yelling at toe. So the next minute everyone sort of
had to put their heads down to their knees, Oh
my goodness, and hold on tight. And all I could

(25:31):
do at that precise moment was pray.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
I was praying.

Speaker 16 (25:36):
I was, I was.

Speaker 14 (25:37):
I could hear in the background everyone was crying, screaming,
people were being sick. Anyway, we were coming in and
I said to my husband, do you think he's going
to be able to get the wheels down? And he
and my husband he's got a.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Little bit of knowledge.

Speaker 14 (25:56):
He said, yeah, I think so, he said, In fact,
we could we probably could have flown to New Zealand
on one engine. But if that had gone then we
would have been history. So anyway, we're coming into Brisbane
and we could see all the flashing lights. They put
us out on a runway way away from the airport,

(26:18):
and so you know, you're just bracing yourself for the impact,
and we're coming down, coming down, and then next minute
we just bang onto the ground, screeching. You could hear
the tie of screeching. And then we came to a
stop and everyone's clapping and people are crying, and and anyway,

(26:41):
I'm looking out the little porthole window and I see
the fire engine. It comes right up beside the plane,
and they all get out and they're all looking around
the plane. And the next minute they're running to their
fire engines and they're pulling out the hoses and they're
foaming the underneath of the plane. We were weird hot,

(27:03):
we were ready to be well.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So you're sitting on the plane and you don't know
suddenly you've selebrated the landing, Debra, and and then and
then the next level of terror is could this whole
thing explode.

Speaker 14 (27:15):
Yeah, it was so hot and you could you could
see they were just all running like little ants to
get the underneath cooled down.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And how long too you could actually disembark from the
plane and that you felt that you felt safe.

Speaker 14 (27:34):
Well, so it seemed like a long time, but it
was probably half an hour because they had to bring out.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Those steps, those inflatable ones.

Speaker 14 (27:44):
So they brought those out, and then there was a
whole of ambulances all lined up and anyway, the doors
opened and we were the first ones off, and we
weren't there to take any bags off or anything like that.
You just had to just exit. And anyway, so as
we're coming down those steps at the bottom where the tower,

(28:08):
medics with the pedals just in case people are going
to have a heart attack. And then we got shipped
over in a bus to the terminal and put into
a room because we weren't allowed to talk to anybody,
put into a room, and then one of these.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
How come you went allowed to talk to anybody?

Speaker 14 (28:25):
Debra, Oh, because I think they were just worried about
that it would you know, the media would come straight
away and they just needed to find out what the
hell went on. First whole plane was put into a room.
We went out into the normal lounges or anything like that,

(28:47):
we had to stay in this room. And then Quantus
ground stuff came in and said, look, we know what's happened,
and there's a Quantus plane leaving for New Zealand in
about half an hour, and we've got some spare seats
if you want to be on us. And I looked

(29:07):
at it's been and I swore and I said this,
no bloody way, I'm getting on another plade. Anyway, he said, look,
we need to get out of here. We need the
family will find out what's happening, and we just need
to get home. And I went, no, I'm not going.

Speaker 17 (29:21):
And anyway, he.

Speaker 14 (29:23):
Talked me around and the next minute I find I'm
sitting on I'm sitting in business class on a Quantus flight. Wow,
and ready to take off. And anyway, and it was
a good flight.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
And have you have you Flyn a lot since then?
Have you have you got over it?

Speaker 14 (29:41):
I wasn't over it for a long long time and
but now I'm okay. But I still when we get turbulains,
I just panic. I just know, I don't know or
when I hear loud bangs.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I just yeah, God, absolutely fair enough.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Thank you so much for your for your call, and
what a story, what a great storyteller difference. Absolutely it
sounds frightening.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Cheered me rivet. Yeah, thank you so much for your Deborah.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
And you know, for people in Deborah's situation, I absolutely
get that when you're on a plane and you face
that and you hear a bit of a noise or
some turbulence, because the factors on a plane, even though
they're incredibly safe, as you say, one of the safest
forms of transport that we have, the fact that you
can't go anywhere, you can't run away, So it plays
on your psychology, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, And after the break, I'll tell you your odds
of something going wrong of a commercial plane crashing, and
I think everyone will be happy with the amount of
zero's after the dot.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Good feel good about this is eighteen to two.

Speaker 4 (30:42):

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
News Talks ed. Be very great to have your company
as always, and we are talking about interesting flights you
may have had. If something went a little bit astray.
We're keen to hear from you on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. But also, how do you feel about
flying in general, the safety of it. Do you protect
pack particularly airlines because you think they have a better record.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
High boys, I've operated six years of my twenty eight
years of flying on the Bowing seven eight seven, a great,
very technologically advanced airplane. I have no problems passaging in
the back of one at any time. A hugely sad
time for Air India and every passenger and the people
killed on the ground cheers. I mean, that's a very
good point. I mean, those poor people. I believe it
was a medical clinic that the year the plane directly

(31:34):
landed on. Yeah, and yeah, they can't be forgotten in
our thoughts around the strategy.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Can they desperately said? All around? Absolutely? Richard, Good afternoon.
I hang it on Richard line to ask you you
so had a fact?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, sorry, Richard, I don't want to keep people holding
on if they cared. The odds of a commercial airplane
crashing are approximately zero point zero zero zero zero zero
one percent, So zero zero zero zero zero one percent,
So you're more likely to that's the dice you're rolling.

(32:10):
When you're you're much more likely to win the powerball
jackpot than you are to to see. Basically, you have
a one in eight hundred and sixteen, five hundred and
forty five, nine hundred and twenty nine chants of being
killed in an airplane crash.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
They are very good.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
So when you sit down on that plane, then you
are not even really rolling the dice of life, you know.
And that's why I mean, I mean, it's so tragic
when these happened, and you know, obviously thoughts go out
to the family, but it's no reason for people to
stop flying, yep, because it's it's it's a lot safer,
as they say, than crossing the road. Sorry Richard, to

(32:48):
hold you off there. I just promised to share that
stat and then I nearly forgot. But welcome to the show, Richard.

Speaker 16 (32:54):
Ye.

Speaker 18 (32:57):
So I threw a flame once. This was in New
Zealand and it was one of the smaller carriers coming
into an island to say what islands and jump up
playing chick after was wet, rainy day and I'm sitting
there at the plane basically on the window seat roughly
in the middle and I thought, why am I getting wins?

(33:19):
And I looked up and there was actually a hole
that I could stick my finger through that went from
the inside of the air crowd to the outside of
the air crowd.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well that's good. Can we just go back and see it, Richard?
So sorry I might have missed it. So what kind
of plane is this?

Speaker 18 (33:35):
It's a small one like it was a nine or
ten seater.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Oh yeah, right, like a bombed deer or such.

Speaker 18 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, thettle craft like that. And yeah, so I
got pretty wet during the flight. Actually stick my hole
my finger in the hole so.

Speaker 19 (33:50):
I wouldn't get so wet.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
That would have been about chilli as well. While the
sounds of it Richard.

Speaker 18 (33:56):
Yeah, like it was a balanced job. Anyway, when we
went to go and land on the island, as we
turned into the runway, if you can call it. That
the interesting thing there's another funny looking exactly the same
painted as exactly the same colors, was off in a
panic and evigently the week before they a little bit

(34:17):
of trouble landing the other plane.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
It's concerning.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
No, that was interesting.

Speaker 18 (34:23):
You're coming into land watching as the one that crashed
last time.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
What did the pilot. What did the pilots say when
when you told him you had a finger just you know,
through a hole in the in the aircraft?

Speaker 19 (34:35):
No, I you know you're going to gus. Yeah, they
do that all the time.

Speaker 16 (34:40):
It's not a problem.

Speaker 18 (34:43):
And I liked to get on the same plane.

Speaker 19 (34:45):
To get out of there.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
And oh, okay, did you use a different Did you
use a different finger the second time?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
No, I just got to set the roll at that
tap would have done the job.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Did you say to the other passenger, how are you
going to have to stick your finger that we want
to fingerr seat a little bit?

Speaker 18 (35:03):
One hundred mile an hour of tape? Would you fixed
the problem? Here's something interesting for you guys. Yeah, aircraft
are really really safe. Most of them world glide when
they where their engines killed, so they can glide it,
such like remember the seven forty seven that picked up
all the Polcato cash and take a glerk forty minutes

(35:23):
before they got the engine three started.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yep.

Speaker 18 (35:27):
The safest, from what I understand, the safest flying aircraft to.

Speaker 19 (35:32):
Be in is it actually a helicopter really?

Speaker 18 (35:34):
Because yeah, well if the engine stops, it doesn't fall
out of the sky, it glides and you can actually
glide it for a long, long way and pick a
landing spot.

Speaker 19 (35:45):
Remember you don't need.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
A runway land Well, it's interesting theory. But we have
a terrible helicopter crash rate in New Zealand, don't we.
I mean, we've got a lot of farmer sitting power lines,
but down in central Target there's been some horrific helicopter incidents.
So within New Zealand, the numbers wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't back

(36:07):
that one up. But yeah, interesting. Thank you so much
for your call, Richard. Thank you for sharing your story.
Chris says Chris here, she says, I'm a tragic flyer,
probably the worst. Every noise smell, I'm convinced something is
going wrong. I even think that the wheels aren't going
to come down or the pilots are going to forget
so so listen for the sound of the wheels coming down.

(36:28):
And yes, incidents like this make me very sad and
even more panicked. Thank you for your text.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, but as you said, those odds again and I
wrote it down. So the odds have been in a
plane crash zero point zero zero zero zero zero one.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, So flying out Tuesday morning. Men wish me luck.
So what I actually wish to this text is luck.
Driving to the airport is where you need to luck
and luck. You know, cooking dinner or having a shower.
You know you're much more likely to slip over and
crack your head in the bathroom than you are to
have a problem on a plane.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Exactly, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Will play some messages and back very shortly.
Here on news Talks.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Here be Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and
Tyler Adams afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
News TALKSB. It is six to two. Couple of texts
to see as to the news.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
One from my big sister, My lovely big sister, Catherine. Hey, Matt,
so sad the plane crashed. I had the worst flight
years ago. It was such bad turbulence. I hope she
doesn't mind memory this out. This is a personal text.
She's been here in my phone and I was all
by myself. The guy next to me even held my hand.
His name was Basil. And I'll never forget how kind
he was talking to me all the way. He said
he had traveled all over the world and he'd had

(37:46):
much worse flights. When we finally landed and got off
the plane, I overheard him saying to his wife, that
was the worst flight of my life. I was so terrified,
but the lady next to me was much more scared.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Got on Bazil for keeping it together. That has a
great story.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Basil kept it together for my big sister.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Another text. I have a mate who I've known for
fifty years flies those dreamliners, them power plants with wings.
He told me the aircraft can be hard to get
onto the deck because they want to fly so bad.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Wow, that's the game.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
So that's a good It's a classic irrational fear. Some
same as sharks. You're more likely to die on the
drive to airport or beach than to die from a
plane cash or a shark attack.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
One hundred percent. Yep, spot on. And this one, Oh,
that's the one that you just read out. Sorry, my
computer's just glitched, guys. I hate flying, but it is
one of those risks in life. I have to fly
for my work, and once I'm on the plane. There's
nothing I can do about it, so why worry about it?

(38:47):
And as you say, Matt, the odds are so incredibly
low that people just freak out unnecessarily, including me.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
So I'm just looking at the shark attack stats for
twenty twenty one, seventy three shark attacks globally, of which
nine were fatal. On the other hand, the chance of
a shark being attacked by human and much higher. We
kill one hundred million of their kind of year. That's
eleven thousand sharks per hour or three per second.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, porta sharks.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
The sharks should be scared of us. Yeah, we are
absolutely kicking their ass.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
We are. And this one, guys, you ever one are
humans one in three million chants of dying from food poisoning. Therefore,
you are more likely to die from the food on
the plane than the plane crashing.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah. So rationally you should not be scared of flying.
But when you see horrible horror event, horrible events like
we've seen on this terrible Air India crash. Yeah, yeah,
it makes you question that rationality.

Speaker 17 (39:35):
It does.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Right after two o'clock, we want to have a chat
about the rural sector. Arguably the biggest event on the
calendar for the rural sector in New Zealander's Field Days.
It's the second to last day. So farmers, are you
feeling buoyant? It certainly seems to be a positive vibe
on the ground at Field Days. And urbanites, how are
you feeling about our rural community now? Are you grateful

(39:58):
for them? Love to hear from U. Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to cool news, sport and
weather on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
Very good afternoon to you, talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons US dog.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
ZIV, Very good afternoons you. It is six past two.
Really good to have your company on this Friday. Are
now just an updates about what is happening in Iran?
The Prime minister, our prime minister is calling Israel strikes
against Iran, usually concerning Israel is preparing for retaliation. Breaking
news today that they have launched strikes against facilities nuclear

(40:40):
facilities within Iran. The United States has been evacuating its
non essential personnel from the region and has confirmed it
has no involvement, but Chris lux And moments ago said
he had been briefed by m Fat and reiterates the
advice that kiwis don't travel to Iran, so it will
keep you up to date with that as the afternoon progresses.
A incredibly significant story.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, and look, in moments like these and interurbulent times,
sometimes it's quite good to get a little bit zen
with your mind. And my youngest son last night, he
was sitting on the couch and he says to me, Dad,
He says, Dad, how many holes are there in a straw?
And I says, immediately, it cleared my mind, warm my

(41:21):
concerns because I just suddenly started thinking it was a
strange thing for him to ask, and it cleared my mind,
which is nice and turbulent times. As I say, and
I mean it said two holes, and he went, no,
one hole. And then then it's been it's been playing
with me ever since. How many how many holes are

(41:42):
there in a drinking store?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Then he takes the group and that through me because
then I went for I mean, there's no pun here
but intended. But I went down a rabbit hole and
I came to the conclusion that on a straw there
are zero holes. What what I'll tell you why Because
a straw primarily started off as just a straight plane
that was rolled up into a straw, So really, can

(42:04):
you call them holes in a straw when it started off.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
As just I think a hole has to appear in
a larger body. Yeah, it has to be dug or
something in there, exactly. That's an interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
It's got to start off as a hole before you
can have a hole.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, I went down a rabbit hole on this, and
as I was going down the rabbit hole, I thought
of rabbit holes and the thing with rabbit holes, as
rabbit holes will have multiple entrances, So there's one rabbit
hole but has a lot of entrances. So that that
confused me with the straw because my son was pushing
hard that there's only one hole and it goes right through.
You're saying there's no holes, But I'm thinking that maybe

(42:40):
it's a straw has two entrances, two entrances as holes,
but as a result it only has it's just.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
One hole because the rabbit hole analogy is effectively like
a curly straw. So isn't it nice to worry about
straws rather than what is happening overseas? But rest assured.
We will keep you up to date.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Where we've got a textas saying waiting for China to
strike on Taiwan next. So that's why you want to
sometimes just spend some time thinking about meaningless things that
sort of semi arrays your mind and clear your thoughts,
like how many holes are there in a drinking straw?

Speaker 11 (43:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Nine two, nine, two, one or zero. Love to hear
your thoughts about how many holes in a drinking straw.
But right now that Dave says a pipe or a
straw has an exit in an entry. Yeah, but are
those exits and entries holes? That's the question, and is
it the same hole? Okay, let's okay, Right, this is
going to be a good hour and move on hopefully
some some positivity. If there's not positivity, we'll roll with that.

(43:34):
But we think this is going to be a positive hours.
So the rural community, it is the biggest day of
the calendar. Field days is underwegh. It is the second
to last day today finishes up tomorrow. But by all
accounts it was incredibly positive on the ground.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Right, Yeah, that's right. And what got me thinking about
this is I was watching Herald now watching Ryan bridge
this morning on the nzied Herald site and they crossed
to field Days and this was the report.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
The vibe of the farmers is really upbeat, really boyan
every tent I've been and happy farmers, happy teens.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
The industry isn't happy now, They're never going.

Speaker 16 (44:12):
To be happy.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Other certainly they are spending more. Our volumes are one
hundred thousand times up on this time last.

Speaker 11 (44:17):
Year, so that's good.

Speaker 12 (44:18):
I heard one story before of a farmer buying three tractors.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Listen, fantastic news today the politician's industries really So there
you go crossing to just people saying happy farmers. Farmers
are positive. It's a great time to be a farmer.
And that's interesting because for recent years it has been
pretty tough for being a farmer. And not only has
it been tough times, you know, thank god for the

(44:44):
farmers during COVID times when we decided to shut our
country down and they still keep producing food for us,
but that it has been hard. They felt like they're
under the pump and they've been experiencing a lot of
stress and maybe maybe arguably not a love from a
lot of love from US urban dwellers.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, and I think there was absolutely the case two
three years ago where there was quite a bit of
push it felt like there was from urbanites towards the
royal community over a pollution you know, on the waterways
and all that sort of stuff, and it felt like
it was farmers being delta blow on all sides. So
not only were they dealing with more regulations and increased

(45:23):
costs and tough yields, but they are also dealing with
perceptions from urbanites, which, let's be honest, we're unfair. So
we want to have a chat to you on oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you are in the
rural community, are you feeling buoyant?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, so farmers seem hugely positive at the moment. They're
fizzing and as we just heard some of them buying
three tractors, but are they feeling the love from the
rest of the country, just wondering whether they feel appreciated. So,
if you're a farmer, are you feeling appreciated? Are you
feeling positive? And urbanites, are you grateful to farmers as
they spearhead our recovery or are you still on them

(46:00):
about being a bunch of dirty polluters? As was the
narrative a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call love to hear your thoughts. It is twelve past.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
We've just received about one thousand I think it would
be close to one thousand texts on trying to work
out the problem around this how many holes in a straw?
So we'll also run that as a subtopic throughout.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, this is good.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons
call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty US Talk ZBB.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
News Talk ZB. We're talking about the vibe or the
mood and the rural community at the moment. It's Field
Day's Day three, the second to last day of field Days,
the biggest event on the rural calendar arguably. But Matt,
you saw a bit of a collection of voices from
on the ground at Field Days and they said they
were very buoyant about what's happening in the farming community,

(46:54):
in the rural community, feeling very positive. So we are
keen to hear from you. Is that the case with you?
If you're a farmer, if you're in the rural communities,
are you feeling more buoyant, more positive. Are you feeling
the love, because it's fair to say they haven't had
the love for we will.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, this sextus is we farmers. They're the only productive
sector we haven't sold to global corporates. We've got to say,
you know, we have low productivity in this country, but
our farmers are incredibly productive and only getting more productive.
Agritech in this country is you know, one of the
things we could be most proud of in my opinion,
But this text of disagrees, disagrees farmers do very little

(47:28):
for our country and take a lot for themselves. We
don't need them. Wow, that's a big call to say
that we don't need farmers. I mean we need mass
Of course, we definitely need some farmers or what will
follow is starvation. And wouldn't you want them to be
our farmers that produce such clean, healthy food and food

(47:49):
that they're selling overseas and stopping our country from going
completely bankrupt and spearheading the recovery with some quite quite
good primary products prices around the world at the moment.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
If you're a farmer, how do you feel about that
text that you're not needed? Apparently, oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
This says so so supportive of farmers. Quite clearly, our
country would be so much worse off without them holding
us all together. This is from a semi urban dweller.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
So if you are in the farming game, O eighte
hundred and eighty ten eighty, we know that you work
incredibly hard, but would love to hear you. If you're
on the tractor now doing some work, get on the
blower and and give us a call. But the last
three four years absolutely farmers have been up against it,
you know, hence the big protest, the farm strong and

(48:40):
the tractors up and down the country saying that the
regulations have been too much. As that started to change
for you, genuinely, are you starting to feel a bit
more positive about running a farm.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Joanne says in the royal community it helps enormously. Not
being continually gas lit by the PM and all of
government are reduction and lies and misinformation has done wonders
for us. So yeah, I wonder what people think about this.
I can't even imagine how someone could have this attitude.
Farmers do very little for our country and take a
lot for them. Soals we don't need them. Yeah, I

(49:10):
can't understand how someone could. I mean, is that just
a crazy person? I mean, I mean there's always a
chance for someone that takes nine two nine two is
just a crazy person.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, there is a very good chance for that.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Actually, he doesn't know where food comes from.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Well, this one says, guys, no farmers. Question Mark spoken
like a true vegan and an insane person.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yeah, well vegan food comes from farms as well.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, you need a farmer to grow crops.

Speaker 20 (49:36):
And this and this.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
This person is out hunting their own food and planting
their own parsnips. Yeah, then they're a crazy person exactly.
But you know, maybe that's an attitude that's out there.
Maybe you agree with this text that says that.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to
call Peter. What's your thoughts on, mate?

Speaker 15 (49:56):
Oh? Bloody, bloody?

Speaker 21 (49:57):
How farmers there?

Speaker 15 (49:58):
They should be given all of a credit plus some
and you know they have, you know, the exports of
kept New Zealand going to a better extent than they
would have been otherwise a lot of people don't realize that.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
What do you think people don't realize that Peter, what
do you think is, how can how can that message
not be getting through to them.

Speaker 15 (50:22):
Because things like you know, there always been chastised for pollution,
so called pollution, you know, animal welfare and all this
sort of stuff, carbon miles and crap like that. I mean,
at the end of the day, some people in the

(50:42):
political spectrum on the letters or left want to get
rid of cows and other green stuffs. Don't like cows.

Speaker 21 (50:48):
Because they fat, Yeah, and quite quite frankly, you know,
I'd love them though, I'd love them to keep farting
because it actually it's actually feeding the world.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (51:00):
And do you realize that we feed forty million people,
that we produce enough food to feed forty million people.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, apparently it's from carminal. And that's that's the argument,
isn't it. As someone is going to bee thee those
forty million people, it might as well be our farmers
that do it in a greener way than anyone else.

Speaker 15 (51:18):
And you know, and you know, and then on the
other hand, we produce point one seven percent of the
world's man made which cows are effectively what they put
in greenhouse gases. I don't know if they counter that
with how much CO two grass takes up. But if
we say cut everything down, we feed say I don't
say ten million. You know you've got to feed yourself.

(51:41):
Our greenhouse gases will probably go down to about two
point one percent, but will be will be the coldest
third world country in a southern hemisphere.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, yeah, And if we're not making much money, then
there isn't any money around for what could be described
as luxury beliefs.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, exactly right. The phone lines have lit up, but
we want to hear from you O eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. If you are a farmer in the
rural community, are you feeling positive? Are you feeling buoyant?
Are you feeling the love? And urbanites? How are your
perception when it comes to farmers in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Do you agree with this text farmers do very little
for the country and take a lot for themselves. We
don't need them twenty one.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Basing Matt Heathen Tayler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZIB.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Afternoon farmers, how are you feeling mood wise? On the
back of field days. It is the second to last day,
and it appears to be quite a positive point. Mood
on the ground, is that the reality on your farm,
in your community.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
And are you feeling the love from the urban dwellers
of this country as you spearhead our economic recovery? Have
you no idea what's happening in Iran? Says this text,
You're sitting there in your ivory tower talking about happy
farmers and angry people in the city while World War
III is kicking off. Well, you know, we've got one

(52:59):
eye out the window for mushroom clouds. Haven't seen any yet.
So far, so good, but it is a reasonably terrifying
situation as Israel strikes Iran's nuclear facilities. At the moment,
America has said they've got absolutely nothing to do with it. Yeah,
Marco Rubio, I mean I think that you'd probably imagine
Israel has told them, at least informed them they're going
to do it, But hither duplessy. Allen will be going

(53:21):
deep into that after four o'clock as more information comes out.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Absolutely, and if there's any significant breaking news coming out
of that story, rest assured you will hear it right
here on News Talk ZB. But in the meantime, we
have a full phone line full of farmers who want
to have a chat about this, Like Emma, we welcome
to the show.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
You grew up on a farm?

Speaker 13 (53:44):
Yes, I'm a fourth generation family idea if a family farm.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
And when it comes to the perception of urban nights,
do you think that has changed or do you think
there's still some ignorance out there.

Speaker 13 (53:59):
There's a lot of ignorance and there's a lot of
a divide a lot, but it just comes from a
lot of an education. Just everything's any more corporate and
all sheltered?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Are you sorry? Carry on?

Speaker 15 (54:12):
No?

Speaker 13 (54:13):
Sorry, but yeah, I love having a conversation with people
to educate them on where their food comes from. This
is where they meet. They're not their dairy, all their
products come from. It's it's amazing to educate people on it.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
And you're sitting in your track to right now?

Speaker 8 (54:27):
Is that right?

Speaker 14 (54:29):
Yes?

Speaker 20 (54:29):
I am?

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Where about CML? Whereabouts is the farm you're on?

Speaker 13 (54:34):
Like it o based?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Right? And are you feeling positive farmers you talk to
and yourself feeling more positive about things?

Speaker 20 (54:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (54:42):
Definitely. I have a different everything with the dairy, the
dry stock, the contracting, so you get a little bit
of everything. Meat prices an all time high for our cattle,
which is a good thing. There's a lot of other
prices being given up, but let's looking up.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Did you experience some of the you know well talked
about problems that farmers were having, the struggle they were
having both you know, making ends meet and also mental
over the last few years.

Speaker 13 (55:10):
Absolutely, because that's what I grew up seeing. I saw
my grandparents, I saw my mum and dad. We thought
they had to deal with regulations that became so tight
and there's a conversation head on the household. It was
even worth it, and it's a low pay up. You
keep on going. You're just a real a big mental battle,
but you do it because you absolutely love the animals

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and you care for them so much and what you do.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, that's an interesting thing that a lot of city
folk don't understand, is how much the farmers love and
care for their stock.

Speaker 16 (55:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (55:42):
I've always absolutely loved them. And you can't do it
if you don't love it. You you have your family
one you scratch them and you pat them, but at
the end of the day, they all go to the
same place and keep the wheel chimney.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. At the end of the day, we
all kind of go to the same place.

Speaker 13 (55:58):
Yeah, quite right, exactly, and if we're here, we may
have all enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
And do you think there is still some farmers out there?
If they have children, they might be thinking, do I
really want my kids to get into this industry now?
Because I know there was a lot of feeling out
there with the regulations and as you say, the pricing
wasn't so good in those perceptions. Do you think that's
hopefully turned around, that farming is still a great industry
and people should be encouraged to get into it.

Speaker 13 (56:23):
Yeah, but it's not just for fighting. Everything has their
ups and downs. Every movement has the ups and down.
But what else would you rather be doing. I spent
it down a few days on Thursday, and I'll be
going back tomorrow. I think there's so many people i'd
rather I just cannot get wait to get back to
the animals, dogs, attractives.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
We heard, Oh sorry, you go go.

Speaker 10 (56:43):
Sorry.

Speaker 13 (56:44):
I'm sorry if you just can't wait to get back
to it. It's a lifestyle. At the end of the day,
you have to It doesn't run on love, but you
have to do what you enjoy and if that's what
you enjoy, write it out.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah. I had this experience. I went to Mount Nicholas Station.
Are you familiar with Mount Nicholas on the shores of
Lake Wakatapu. What a fantastic place that as one hundred
thousand acres, thirty thousand marino sheep and two thousand, two
hundred Hereford cattle, if I remember rightly, And I couldn't
believe talking to the woman that runs this farm, how

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much she loved the farm, the nature, how much she
cared about every part of it, the seasons, how she
cared about the land in a way that I don't
think anyone that lives in the city can fully understand.
How personally it was part of her, This this huge station,
every part of it was she She loved it and

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looked after it, and it was quite I got quite
emotional listening to her speak.

Speaker 13 (57:41):
Yeah, it's amazing. I can get quite giddy talking about
it because my father was very passionate about the regeneration goes.
But it all comes back down to your soil, your
sort of structure, your grass structure, how the animals. If
there has to be the correct and under minerals, the nutrients,
and it goes through the animals and looking after them
how they can be in the best shape possible, and
it just it just all follows on. Is I'm so

(58:03):
so passionate about the whole lot of it, even down
Oh my god, so many worms.

Speaker 14 (58:07):
In the soil.

Speaker 13 (58:07):
You know you're doing something right regenerating that because that's
future generation.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Well, thank you so much for your call, Emma. I
appreciate that, and we'll let you get back to it.

Speaker 13 (58:16):
That's no worries. Thank you so much for I'm have
a good day.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Thank you great leander.

Speaker 16 (58:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Absolutely, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you are a farmer. Are you
feeling positive, a bit more buoyant than you were a
couple of years ago in urban nights? Are you grateful
for our farming and rural community?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
And if had some good advice here? Have you no idea?

Speaker 12 (58:34):
What is?

Speaker 11 (58:34):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
So here goes? Are farmers? The text I rang up before.
Farmers do very little for our country and take a
lot for themselves. We don't need them. And someone's saying, yeah,
we need to ask that person where they think their
food comes from. So if you sent that text, if
you could bring us on eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
We've got a couple of questions for you.

Speaker 17 (58:51):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Absolutely, it has Bang on pas too, headlines with Raylene
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Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Thank you very much, Ray Lane. Just before we get
back to chatting about positivity and farmers and the rural community,
a very excited Andy McDonell has just come in here.
He is, of course the producer of a weekends sport
and exciting, exciting times. While it was for Finn Allen
in the Major League cricket.

Speaker 22 (01:00:34):
Yeah, Major League cricket, who would thought would talk about
this day Finn Allen. Unfortunately I may have jinxed it
here by letting you guys know, but he's just been dismissed.
But he was on one hundred and fifty one off
check this fifty one deliveries playing for the San Francisco
Una Unicorns.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Double yeah, the Unicorns.

Speaker 22 (01:00:51):
Hell of a team name nineteen six as he had
in that knock and still three overs to go, so
he could have he's out now, but he could have
been tempting an all time record. Chris galeholds that record
most runs in a T twenty worth one hundred and
seventy five joll and we.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Got caught back Phillips New Zealander, and then Corey Anderson
Coyerson for a while has got coming.

Speaker 22 (01:01:12):
Well, he's now actually applying his trade for the United
States national team.

Speaker 16 (01:01:16):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
That's that we last saw him. But this is the
thing you should never have told me. They've got this
text coming in. As soon as I got this text
saying watch it, he went out exactly. So as it you, Matt, Yeah,
if I lay my eyes across something good, yeah, it
immediately turns to crap.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
As soon as you came in here. What was it
about a minute? A minute twenty? It was a next ball,
It was a next ball, and it was it was hell. Yeah,
I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
So that's on you bringing us into it.

Speaker 22 (01:01:43):
Yes, well, I'm sorry to run this chat on positivity
by by informing of a cricket are doing phenomenal stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Well, yeah, we'll see how it goes now though, So
fingers crossed and how much time? Yeah, Andy always good
to check mate. That is Andy McDonald, the producer A
week in Sport, of course. But back to farming and positivity.
If you are a farmer, love to hear from you,
how you feel any more buoyant? Are the regulation starting
to change in your will favor? How is the price

(01:02:10):
going for the milk or your kettle or the sheep?
Really keen to get your view on eight hundred and
eighty teen eighty and the perception of urbanized do you
think or are you feeling the love from city folk?
In twenty five Peter, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (01:02:24):
Yeah, good afternoon. Now. I think sort of with the
end of the national government sort of took away a
lot of sort of we're under a lot of pressure form,
water regulations, all sorts of regulations from every farmer. So,
you know, due to some great advocacy work with Federated
Farmers and the Light sort of managed to get some

(01:02:44):
reality back and then back that up with good good
product prices with meat, lamb and dairy, which is great.
But you know, farmers are pretty storical bunch, and you're
sort of they're not laughing in the street streets and
smashing out money, going silly you know, they know the
sort of yous. You're working three months ahead the whole time,

(01:03:07):
so you don't know when things are going to change.
And historically it's a big circle. Everything changes eventually. Enjoy
it while you've got it. But yeah, no, no, it's
really getting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Too carried away working out sites, working outside the real
level er, isn't it, Because every day, you know, whatever
you plan to do can massively change just by what
happens from the skies.

Speaker 16 (01:03:31):
Oh, those guys down in Mackenzie Country, how much snow
they've had just recently, it's just amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:03:40):
But then you've got the other other farmers, which are
the oyster farmers. They've got a fantastic product in the
Maharani River and they've been closed down because of the
excrement over.

Speaker 23 (01:03:51):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
It's a disgrace that one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
So can you can you describe the situation there? I'm
sort of only vaguely across that. It's it sounds like
some pretty odd decisions from the from from water care
in that area.

Speaker 16 (01:04:06):
Well, there's cross contamination between sewage water and the storm water,
so every time it rains, some of the storm waters
leak large amounts of contaminated storm water into the river,
and then there's the actual treatment plant which there isn't
able to cope, so it's unloading beyond what is due

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to excess excrement. I suppose, probably one of the most
ironic things. One of the worst storm water outlets. And
as a little side street off the main street of
Walk with the Livesabeth Street that's actually directly under the
local ward officers. Right, quite good, but their heart's going

(01:04:53):
to go out to these oyster farmers. They need twenty
eight days of clean water before they get even working,
and they can't even get too. They can't even stread
two days together.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
It would have been, it would have been maybe a
couple of weeks ago, Peter the head of Markana Oysters,
or the coen Tom Walters on Mike's show, and I
could hear the frustration a man. I was feeling so
angry for him. I think most of New Zealand anyone
who listened to that interview would have been feeling really
furious with how they've been treated.

Speaker 16 (01:05:19):
I can't I can't see it, you know. I imagine
a farmer constantly dropping not not cowpoop, but excrat human
x commit into a waterway and not being prosecuted. It's
just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, and thank you so much for you call Peter. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, I'm not one hundred pcent across that is.
I'm just allreading up in it now. But I heard
an interview on it on a Hosking show, and you know,
from what little I know, that is a terrible, terrible situation.

Speaker 17 (01:05:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Yeah, And like you, you know, I just go on
what I heard on Mike's show, but it just seemed
like it was silence from from Auckland Water Care and
Auckland Council when they were trying to get some resolution
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Now I've got to say, you know, you know, farmers
listening right now. When we heard the audio from field
Days and just the positivity around farmers after some tough times.
And I've got to say on nine two nine two,
just hundreds of texts from urban lights saying how much,
how grateful they are to farmers. But there are a few,
there are a few, a few texts coming through, and

(01:06:20):
I've got to say, you know, because we want to
keep this positive, but I've got to say that in
the minority. But here's one. The farmers are a greedy
winging bunch. Wow, so few with so much land. Yeah, well, yeah,
you need a bit of land to farm. I mean
you can.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
It worked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I mean I only need like a seat and a
microphone to do my job. Yeah, your space freely, Generally,
farming text involves just a little bit more space. You know,
it doesn't really work without it. And wealth. Most have
been propped up considerably by taxpayers since the seventies, stealing resources,
polluting the air waves. Oh the river, oh right, the river,

(01:06:57):
just saying yeah, I mean, farmers made us the richest
country in the world up until the UK. I mean,
it's it's incorrect to say that they're popped up by
the taxpayer, because that was just at the end of
that when the UK joined the EU and they stopped
importing all our stuff. Up to that point, the amount
of exports that we were having to Britain made us

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a very, very wealthful, wealthy country, and a lot of
the infrastructure in this country was built out of that
wealth of the farmers. Then the UK gave us the
bird and joined the EU, and then Muldoon thought it
was a great idea just to keep buying the stuff,
and that didn't last and as a result we had
what happened in eighty four, we opened up the market.
So it's pretty hard to say that the farmers have

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been helped out with.

Speaker 10 (01:07:41):
Very much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
They haven't been helped out a lot since eighty four,
that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Yeah, very unfair. But if you want to hit back
at that particular text, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty
And indeed if you agree with that, Texter, oh, wait,
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It
is nineteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams
afternoons news talks.

Speaker 8 (01:08:04):
They'd be good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Afternoon Field Days has been under way. It's the second
to last day today. By all accounts, it has been
a roaring success, as it always is actually, but the
mood on the ground this year seems to have been
very positive and very buoyant. So we've asked that question,
if you're in the royal community, are you feeling that way?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
And here's a text on that Maharangi River near Walkworth
Auster Farm situation. Auckland Council in the water care have
failed to provide for the explosion of growth in the
Walkworth area. This text, this is an interesting text, and look,
I probably shouldn't read it out, but I'm going to
Farmers are absolutely awesome, apart from the ones that interfere
with their animals inappropriately.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Wow, giddy up. It says I didn't say that that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I think we can all agree with that. Yeah, farmers
are absolutely awesome apart from the ones that interfere with
their animals in appropriately. But you know, I think that
might be zero farmas. Yeah, I think there's probably zero farmers.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
That do that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
City folk can do that as well. You know, I
don't know any, thankfully, but yeah, I just think for.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
All those people who forget where their food comes from,
words heads remove, Yep, that works. Yeah, Yeah, there we go.
I would suggest that anyone who's not on the side
of farmers banned their boycott their products. Perhaps a hunger
stroke will get them back on board.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Yeah very good. Uh and that was well read actually,
because I'm not having to go at your texture. But
they wrote boycott as in boy little boy, and then
court yeah boycourt yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, Well, I mean spell check as a as a
as a.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Fickle beast series A bit useless.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Farmers are so wealthy, why don't they spread it like
butter for us? All tena blocks nuts. Yeah, I mean,
let's not go into that. That's that's been well. Yeah,
well we've done that before. Done, We've done that before.
Welcome to the show, Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Dan, How are you no, I'm yeah, get a mate, Sorry,
we just had some glitches with our phone system. Are
you you're in the rural community? I take it, mate,
kind of.

Speaker 24 (01:10:07):
I grew up a farm in Central Hawk's Bay, but
I'm actually based in Napier. So but I've just said
my first trip up to the field days last couple
of days.

Speaker 10 (01:10:18):
Just been like.

Speaker 24 (01:10:20):
It was over overwhelmingly positives. Definitely. My my trip up
there was on the back of ASP's announcement with the
aligned facilities of solar and batteries. I've got a solar
company and a good network in the rural community, so
I made a few phone calls and jumped up there
and have literally spent the last two days talking about

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that and yeah, phenomenal. How many people are seriously now
interested and it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
So is solar?

Speaker 25 (01:10:52):
Is that for?

Speaker 10 (01:10:53):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
The the industrial part of farming? Is it for the farmhouse?
I mean, how how is solar employed in the rural communities?

Speaker 24 (01:11:02):
I think probably the lowest, lowest hanging throats, irrigation and
dairy for yes, just because their usage and consumption is
so high, so you know, and a lot of it
happens during the day, so you can obviously the huge
amount of cost by employing solar. But a lot of
retailers offering some really really good contracts where if you're

(01:11:23):
not using your solar, especially irrigation during the winter, you
can actually export back to the grid and sell the
excess for some serious money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Well, one thing you always say about farms is that
nature never does what you want it to have. We
got we got enough sunshine across this country to make
a solar viable for things like irrigation.

Speaker 24 (01:11:46):
When we've got more than enough, and I think there's
more than enough information out there if people go and
search for it. I mean I have to take my
head off to Mike Casey and Rewiring, Alteroa and especially
asp Bank for getting in behind that to actually put
some factual information out there rather than what you hear
at the barbecue. You know, across across the fence, talking

(01:12:07):
to the neighbor, because there's no two ways it works,
and there's a huge amount of savings that can be
had in the real sector, and it's just a case
of asking the right questions. And I think what they've
done during field days has really opened up the conversation.
You know, the cost of capitals now taken care of
while the government's done with appreciation.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Adds another layer to it.

Speaker 24 (01:12:30):
And ultimately it just comes down to getting some really
good advice in the industry and making sure you're talking
to the right people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
A lot of that criticism I've heard around solar dan
and whether it's fair or not, but this is what
I'm asking you, was around that reliability. But it sounds
like it's a backup right that you've got your traditional
means of supplying energy, and solar appears to be a
great backup system that can work and complements to the
traditional systems.

Speaker 24 (01:12:56):
Yeah, I think there's a big misconception that you employ
solar and then that's your only single source of electricity.
It works in conjunction with the grid. So if it's
a cloudy day like I'm sitting in take Rah at
my home and the clouds come over the grid would
supplement what you need, but ultimately solar is the cheapest
form of electricity you can get, hands down. There's so

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much data out there to prove that. And the difference
between us and say Australia is our network is going
to be set up with batteries available so you can
store the excess as opposed to selling it back for nothing,
and then that provides energy at night and the cost
of batteries is only just starting to decline. So as
a country, we've got this enormous opportunity, you know, to

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actually take advantage of that. There's plenty of sunshine and
the best thing is the sun's relative is consistent. That
does come up and go down every day, so it's
pretty reliable.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Yeah, all right, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 10 (01:13:51):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Sorry, Dan,
what's the name of your business? We didn't ask.

Speaker 24 (01:13:57):
It's called Solar Collab.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
We're based in Hawk's Bay.

Speaker 24 (01:14:00):
But yeah, we're happy to help people across the country
as the real questions so by the man's reach out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Yep, there you go, Solar Colac.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
We're always open to a plug on Matt and Tyler
Afternoons on ZIB.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Absolutely right. We're going to pick this back up very shortly.
We'll play some messages in my own my there's been
a whole bunch of ticks responses to a couple of
those other texts as we read out before having to
go at Farmers, so keen to get your views on
nine two nine two as well. It is ten to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used.

Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
Talk Zibby.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Afternoon it is seven to three and it's been a
great discussion about farmers. Are you feeling the love?

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
I'd be interesting to see how Chris Hopkins Skimer's going
down to field days because judging by the texts machine
from from farmers and Chris Hepkins is not a popular man, no,
not a popular man with farmers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
So it's going well, enemy territory for Chris Hepkins, boy
looks of it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
So we got a couple of you know, we were
talking about farmers in the last hour and the positivity
that seems to be coming into the community, and we've
got this text early on have have farmers do very
little for our country and take a lot for themselves.
We don't need them, and so we'll take this call
from James, and then I think farmers we please with
the onslaught of texts from New Zealand urbanites that support

(01:15:24):
the farmers and are grateful for what's going on with
our economy and they're hard work. James, welcome to the show.

Speaker 17 (01:15:30):
Thank you, thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
And you're a crop and dairy farmer, James, Yes, we are.

Speaker 17 (01:15:37):
Yep, we've got a bit of both. And Canterbury very
very wet here at the moment, like whe where does
it's been in a couple of generations? I think?

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
And is that yeah? Is that affecting your positivity a bit, James?
Is that making it true a little bit day to day?

Speaker 23 (01:15:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:15:55):
Yeah, it's grown out there. But all in all, you know,
there is it is, there is positivity compared to how
oz years a few years ago. Cropping to be fair, though,
like the cropping industry is pretty grim at the moment.
It's not you know, returns and arable aren't aren't good

(01:16:17):
in Canterbury and a lot of farmers are actually looking
to try and you know change to dairy lands consent
could change what you know that was completely off the table.
Well I'm to go now the government's a change the government,
then that sort of back on the table now too.
There'll be a bit of yeah, which is interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
So did they shut that down to day James and
Canterbury that there was no more dairy conversions?

Speaker 17 (01:16:38):
Yes, basically no more cows was kind of a labor
policy and e Canna are very green counsel. But I
think there's sort of a gap in legislation. I don't
exactly know what's going on with it, but there are
cut concents being granted at the moment for land. News
can change.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
So are you feeling positive about things at the moment?

Speaker 17 (01:17:00):
James, Yeah, I actually I am, Yeah, I am yep.
Return financial returns a up where they were, and yeah
it's good. I think people are in there in the
seat there and mates around everyone who is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Feeling more positive and you get the vibe that the
city dwellers are like myself and Tyler, are grateful for
what farmers do for our economy.

Speaker 17 (01:17:24):
Well, I can tell you that you two are, which
is wonderful and certainly like today listening to the show,
you can see that people are like, I think it's
just misunderstanding, isn't it for people so far awove from farming.

Speaker 10 (01:17:37):
Now.

Speaker 17 (01:17:37):
It used to be if everyone had a cousin on
a farm or yeah whatever, and that's gone. But now
so they just don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Yeah, well they need to watch Clarkson's Farm on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Certainly as Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Well, thank you so much for your call, James, and
good luck out there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Yeah what a good man. So to those Texters, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Guys, some of the texts are from people sitting on
their laptops working for home. Send them to go and
work on a farm for a month and the elements
rather than just sitting on their butts in their office.
There we go. There's a bit of not happy with
that one. That not who said to get rid of
farmers is obviously just extracting the urine on from a
farming background. But drive trucks now, seventy five percent of
trucks on the road would be involved in agricultural export, fruit, veggie, seafood, beef, sheep, pork.

(01:18:20):
Ignorant people and greenies are idiots are allowed housing and
pukakoe red soils just biggers belief. All right, okay, right,
I mean it's one hundreds.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Of tips, yeah, thousands of tech supporting the farmers, which
is great to see. Love that hour right coming up
very shortly. This is exciting as well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Yeah, that's right. It is the Mattin Tyler Afternoons, New.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Zealander of the Week, News coming up, the New Zealander
of the Week.

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
Your new homes are in stateful and entertaining. Talk.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
It's Matty and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk SEBBI.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Very good afternoon, cheer, welcome back into the show. Seven
pass three. Very very shortly we get into New Zealand
of the Week. But also this hour we want to
have a chat about who is the worst behave generation
at the pub. There was a story out that spoke
to a bunch of bartenders around the world and one
generation stood out as the worst behaved.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yeah, and it probably isn't the generation that you think
it is. Well, I don't know what your prejudices are
against different generations and their behavior out and about, but
it's not the generation that I thought it was. No,
but I would love to hear from you if you're
in hospo or if you are a badly or well
behaved customer on which generation you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Yeah, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.
Call Andrew is standing by, but right now it is
eight past three.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on ZEB we
name the New Zealander of the Week and honor that
we bestolen your behalf to a newsmaker has had an
outsized effect on this great and beautiful nation over the
previous week. As always, there will be three nominees but
only one winner. So without further ado, the nominees for
Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the Week are
nomine One also gets the Death to the Parsoner Award.

(01:20:09):
You were all over the news this week because you
are making a huge comeback across our beautiful country, bringing
New Zealand families and friends together at home or at
a pub, beef check or lamb, spuds, cubes, pumpkin peas,
stuffing Yorkshire pods and a bucket of gravy. You should
be compulsory the good old Kiwi Sunday roast. You are

(01:20:29):
nominated for New Zealand of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Yes, but no pastners, hate pastners.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Pays are the past. NEPs Gem Gross nominee two also
gets the Heartwarmingly Cute Award. Their dad is an absolute champion,
charging to a second PGA Tour title in the space
of a month at the Canadian Open. As the Odt
put it, he may not play perfect golf, but he
is the perfect golfer, a humble, likable, no nonsense, nice
guy who likes to drink, loves his family and sports

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a bit of a gut. But the true champions of
the day were his two little daughters. In a very
key wee moment, while Dad was making his victory speech
in front of a fawning world media, they run off
to play cars in the sandtrap as a bowl And
Margo Fox for running a mark and having yourself a
very cute good time and enjoying yourself on Dad's big day.

(01:21:17):
You have been nominated for New Zealanders of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
World, ain't girls.

Speaker 25 (01:21:22):
That's pretty special to have them here. I apologize to
the guy that's going to have to rake the bunker
just there, but uh, there she goes. Where's can't describe it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
But there can be only one and the winner who
this is big and the winner also gets the non
Winging Pomb Award. Well, everyone in this country has turned
into a bunch of cry babies running New Zealand down winging,
moaning and acting like they are living in the hardest
time in history. These two immigrants stood up in a
major UK newspaper and pointed out that we actually have

(01:21:57):
it incredibly good here. They raved about their improved work
life balance and family time, the safe environment for raising kids,
our friendly and inclusive local communities, are access to beautiful
nature and outdoor activities.

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
On our lack of stress compared to the UK British
couple Robert and Sabrina eaton for moving to Fungerpuror and
reminding us we don't know how lucky we are, mate,
you are the Matton Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of the week,
take it away, Holy Morison, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
To New Zealand.

Speaker 26 (01:22:30):
Congratulations and give them a taste of care. God bless
and God speed. Stop your God damn one Ja.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
New Zealand thirteen past three. Now just a quick heads up.
Heather has a big show planned. Obviously a significant story

(01:23:05):
happening in the Middle East at the moment. Israel striking
nuclear facilities within Iran. So she will be speaking to
many people. One of those is why Kato A University
International law professor elgar Llspie. He will be talking about
why this conflict between Israel and Iran won't lead to
World War three in his view. So looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Oh, that's good here, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
It's good to hear and look, it may seem a little.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Bit trivia what we're going to spend the next forty
five minutes talking about, but let's just call it a
calm before the storm. Yeah, just a breath before you
have to focus in on what is a pretty pretty
terrifying situation occurring in the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
And let's be honest, we can't do anything about it,
so we may as well chat about who is the
most rude when it comes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
To Yeah, I mean, I have to admit I've got
a reasonably big ego, but I'm pretty sure I can
do nothing about what's happening over there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Yeah, we can get you over there to try, but yeah,
so here, the will carry on with that significant story.
And as we've said all along this afternoon, I know
if anything major breaks, you will hear it right here.
First but let's have a talk about poor behavior at bars.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Yeah, so this major study has come out of the
United States, and look, I think it's probably very similar
here across the generations, but it is looking into the
worst behaving customers in terms of hospitality and across the generations.
Is it Gen Z, is it Gen X? Is it

(01:24:34):
the Boomers? Is it the Zoomers? Who do you think
is the worst behaved generation? And who is the best
behaved generation in bars and restaurants across New Zealand OA
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Now, I've got prejudice, prejudices,
pre justices, prejudice, prejudices, prejudices, prejudices, prejudices.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
You have a generation that you hate as monny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
How you sometimes can't say certain words. But yeah, but
I've seen some pretty terrible be from a certain generation consistently.
But I'm not going to say who that is just yet,
but I would like so I'd love to hear your
opinion on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you
work in HOSPO or I, or if you are a
well behaved or poorly behaved patron, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Who is the worst behaved generation when it comes to
drinking at a bar. Love to hear your thoughts on
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and if you want to
send a message, you're more than welcome to on nine
two ninety two. But really keen to have a chat
with you, particularly if you work in hospo. There's a
few HOSPO workers coming through. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I'm going to go with the young ones now in bars.
I'm thirty eight, so i'd guess eighteen to twenty one
year olds. I see them behaving terribly, says Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
All right, well we'll tell you. I mean you would
expect that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
I mean when you're first going to bars, when you're eighteen,
you don't quite have the you know, you haven't learned
your lessons. I mean, where was that bar that closed
down recently? Didn't close down, but it shut its doors
to people under twenty one because it just they just
couldn't behave right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Where was that Da Hamilton? Maybe I think I'm I
have been Hamilton. Yeah, but you're right. A lot of
people would say, is that generation Z the Zoomers that
they've just hit the clubs. I've just turned eighteen. They
can't handle their booze and they're rude and obnoxious.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
This specion says it's the millennials. We are absolutely the worst.
And this person says, Hi, guys, I'm a boomer nineteen
sixty two, but not a drinker. I would say without
a doubt it's us boomers. We still drink like it's
nineteen seventy two, and we're still driving around in horrible
old Fords wearing black Sapath t shirts to the pub. Hey,

(01:26:42):
genexs love Black Sabbath as well. Okay, and see.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Yet that sounds like a good time to be honest.
Yeah right. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number. Call love to hear from you on
this who is the worst behaved at our pubs? It
is seventeen past three.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk SV.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Good afternoon, It is nineteen twenty three, and we are
talking about who which generation is the worst behaved when
it comes to bars and restaurants. So eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, love to hear your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
So a lot of people are texting in and saying
it's the eighteen year olds. And you know back in
March for popular Hamilton bar band patrons under the age
of twenty, what's the bar called House on Hood had
lowered the entry age to eighteen last year, but decided
to reverse the decisions, saying that bad behavior of some
teams is also costing them older customers. Another pub owner

(01:27:37):
has a minimum age of twenty five. So, and there's
actually a few texts here saying that whereas I've just
lost that checks bars should not be opened to anyone
under twenty one? What are eighteen year olds doing in there?
It's insane terrible?

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Text So that BECA doesn't actually say why bars should
not be opened to anyone under twenty one? What are
eighteen year olds doing in there? It's insane terrible? Please
text back or ring back on OE hundred and eighteen
eighty text there and tell us why it's insane and
why they shouldn't be in there?

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Shall I mention what some of these bartenders told this
particular author who is the worst behaved? So I mentioned
and so MICHAELA was one of the bartenders. She works
at a winery where she serves people of all ages,
and she says I quote, by far the most challenging, stressful,
and taxing. And I say this with love other boomers,

(01:28:24):
She said. She finds the boomers, roughly those age between
sixty and eighty, keep this keen eye on any little
thing that they can glob on to and say, well,
you didn't bend over backwards for me. Rachel, another bartender,
agreed that the fifty plus crowd wins the distinction of
the most demanding. She says, I quote, they're going to
I want to pick where they sit, and they're going

(01:28:46):
to tell you every minor inconvenience. I used to work
at a bar that didn't have any air conditioning, and
it was always my fault. According to them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
This is interesting text. Gen X are the worst behaved
and barsn't proud of it. Yeah, I mean that's the
great thing about it general. I mean gen X is
the greatest generation obviously. I mean, I think Eve them
agrees with that, but yeah, I mean that that is
part of the whole gen X rationale, isn't it. Just
do what you do and be proud of it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
You wait till you hear what millennials say about you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Guys, been your thoughts on the worst behaved patrons and bars.

Speaker 23 (01:29:15):
It's got it's got to be the boomers, mate, They're
just they're just gnarly, you know, they just they still drink,
like you say, like you said it perfectly beforemat like
they're still in the in the bloody early eighties or
something like that, and they're still you know, like binge
drinking was a thing like great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
And to be fair being I didn't say that, I
just read out of text saying that, but yeah, yeah, yeah, continue, yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:29:36):
Yeah yeah, and they still think like the law doesn't
apply to them anymore because you know, they've been around
so long, quite opinionated, and yeah, they can just be
can be an issue, you know, getting that overconfident part
of their life. So they still think they're in their twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
What generation have you been?

Speaker 23 (01:29:54):
I'm from the boomers, what's that mid forties? You're an
ex an ex Yeah, yeah, well you can be we
can be pretty temperamental as well.

Speaker 10 (01:30:03):
Yeah, you know, I went through the whole.

Speaker 23 (01:30:05):
Rugby club phase where once again it was not unusual
go to a bar down a Crosts and see the
Kenny brigusaders in there consuming enormous amounts of alcohol alongside
everybody else. Those days are gone. But you know, once again,
I think we'd probably be a good second, if not
first equals.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
I agree, then yeah, yeah, I would actually agree. I
think being a member of the d next generation, I
think we're historically pretty badly behaved in bars.

Speaker 24 (01:30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:30:32):
I might have seen you at a bar now and
I can't say you were a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Yeah yeah, Now, so speaking of the Crusaders, what do
you reckon the chances of the Blues upsetting the Crusaders
and knocking making it thirty and one at home for
the Crusaders and knockout matches? Oh, I tell you what.

Speaker 27 (01:30:50):
The way the Bloys played last weekend, it's pretty encouraging
for them. But by the same token, I would be
hard pressed to put a bet on that. I think
she's going to be a pretty good ding dong.

Speaker 15 (01:31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
And supplementary question, what do you think the chances are
of World War three? Have then before dinner time?

Speaker 23 (01:31:10):
It's a bit nerve wracking. I mean I've only just
sort of picked up on the last hour or so
and haven't really seen any media around it. Bit yeah, yeah,
well wait and see I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Yeah, Well, Heather's going to go deep into that after
four o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Yep, she certainly well looking forward to that. So talking
about gen X's, there were a couple of bartenders that
pulled up gen X's as the worst behaved as well.
So they come in apparently expecting the quid pro quo.
They think that after every three drinks, this is the
gen X's, I'm supposed to give them a free one, Rachel,
said a bartender. That's not a real thing or a

(01:31:45):
hard rule. It's a privilege if you're a good customer
or patron, of course, But I don't owe anybody free anything.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
I don't think I've would ever expect a free drink
for anything in a bar. You know, well, I mean
I must sometimes get given free drinks, but to expect
a free drink.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Gen x are spoken like a chen X.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
No, I mean I will be given a I mean,
especially when I was running the penowasting, every bar I
went to, there was a free bottle of read waiting
out for me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Sure on your thoughts, Yeah, mate, I'm a.

Speaker 19 (01:32:20):
Gen X in myself, just more than nineteen seventy. I
did my when I was a student. I was working
bar in the nineties where there was a lot more
high in bars and restaurants opening, so there's a lot
of higher in behavior. But the worst people I came
across who would be abusive, throwing glasses this is in
a restaurant were the sixty to eighty year olds, people

(01:32:40):
who are you know, no offense, the post World War
two generation of that, they'd pre maybe post dramatic disorder whatever.
And today I think it still is. Okay, I'm in
my mid fifties now I'm going to I'm approaching that era.
But yeah, the people I remember from the nineties, they
were the vendous, mate, they were really herringd it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
So that was that was the greatest generation? Was it
that you were saying that were the eighty year old's
throwing things? See, and they are the ones in the.

Speaker 19 (01:33:04):
War, No that these are the ones born directly after
night what you fought the boom?

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:33:11):
And these are the happies and the seventies are all
about love. When they got to the eighties, mate, they're
all about anger and and and anger management.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Yeah, because because you can understand those that had been
to war have been to world War two or World
War One, but world War two is around in the eighties.
You can understand why you might have a few issues
if you've been there, you've been overseas gliding.

Speaker 19 (01:33:33):
As old gods are pretty good. I'm talking about the
ones who became after World War Two, came of age
in the sixties and there was meant to be the
free love was before my time, the free Love generation
or whatever. They had all the benefits. When you tell
I had a fully you know, welfare syst you know,
there was no problem, he's a plays whatever. They had everything,
and then they made it in the seventies and they

(01:33:54):
became millionaires and they were serious ales. I don't know
what it's like now, my wife don't. I couldn't get
out now the same in the tweets that I tried.
But yeah, I just think the older you get in
my son's twenty two is the university and they're actually
pretty team mate. They're actually there's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
The whole I've noticed that.

Speaker 19 (01:34:14):
Treat woman right, the whole nine yards, you know. So
I think that they're eighties to people who are else
in the eighties, that they are the worst. And that's
my vote. I'm gonna met on My generations a bit
of a close second. But the ones who were born
direk out to all two, they've got some issues.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Well, there you go. Thank you for your thank you
for your.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
Call, Sean passionately said got On in a text. Here
you get eighteen, think the worst drinkers at bars. Millennials
post born in the two thousands. Those born in the eighties, nineties,
and even the seventies are pretty good. We have dinner,
usually a watch of sports game at a bar. Those
born after two thousand drink until they get kicked out.
Go the Blues and the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
It's an interesting idea, though, because surely it's the individual,
as this Texas says, and maybe you go through stages.
So when you're eighteen, you behave like an eighteen year old.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
When you're twenty six, you pay like a twenty six
year old. When you're thirty six you behave like a
thirty se six year old, and when you're seventy six
you play pay like a seventy six year old. I mean,
aren't the generations just moving through? Because you know, people
talk about the boomers now, but yeah, as Sean said,
the boomers were the They were, they were the happies,
they were the absolute rebellion, free love, free love, protesting,

(01:35:30):
sweet Waters, the Queen Street Riots. And then you move
into another stage of your life where maybe you've seen
a lot you and you you don't want your time wasted,
and so you just move into a different phase and
you go, well, I don't want this meal to be rubbish.
I've had enough meals in my life to know that
this feel is rubbish. So I'm just going to be

(01:35:50):
a little bit demanded.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
So you got to base the generations on when they
were eighteen, is what you're saying. Well, I was a
disgrace when I was eighteen as a millennial, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
And then you're becoming less and less of a disgrace
every year, and then at some point you'll become entitled
and demand that your coffee is exactly the right temperature.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
I look forward to that day. One hundred eighty ten
eighty eight is the number to call which generation is
the worst behaved at restaurant and bars? Love to hear
your thoughts. It is twenty nine past three.

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Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Thank you very much, Raylen And we're talking about who
is the worst behave generation at the bars and at
the pubs. A story out of the US says that
the Boomers and the gen x's of the worst behave
gen Z actually pretty good. They are no longer according
to these bartenders. And actually it was a survey around
the world. According to bartenders around the world, gen Z

(01:38:00):
are not the ones who get plastered anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Are they soft? That's the problem? Yes, us gen x's
and Boomers, we know how to drink. It doesn't matter
what age, just depends on personality and ego. That's from Mac. Yeah,
I think that's probably a good point. I think when
you break someone up into you know, groups, then don't
treat people like individuals, then you're you're doing evil in

(01:38:24):
this world. Yeah, so my dad, he's a Boomer, and
you wouldn't You wouldn't get a better behaved gentleman at
a bar. In fact, as a gen X or I
behave far worse than Dad at bars. You know, he's
I'm embarrassed him a number of times, and both of
us combined have embarrassed my sons.

Speaker 20 (01:38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
So, Owen, who do you reckon? Is the worst behaved?

Speaker 10 (01:38:46):
I reckon millennials. And I'll give you an example. I'm
an older man who regularly visits the bars in town,
and I met up with these young women aged between
eighteen and twenty one, and the level of alcohol and
drug abuse was just phenomenal. And there was one particular
drug that they really liked. It was called nitrous oxide.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
Or they call them nag nangs.

Speaker 10 (01:39:11):
Yeah, And then they'd go to the vae shop. They'd
buy four or five canisters. They'd go through them so quickly,
and then they'd go back and get more. And the
behavior of these women was just oh, I just couldn't
believe the level of abuse. Every night with them was
a party.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Well so with the nags though, So you're not really
behaving that badly on nags. I'm not necessarily that good
for you, But you don't you just sort of zone out,
don't you? For for a thirty fifty women.

Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
Not these women. These women would like to fight, They
would like to just do things that you don't do.
They were in the bars, they would fight, they would steal.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Right, what generation? Now, what generation are you? Owen?

Speaker 10 (01:40:01):
I'm fifty five, so I was born in nineteen seventy, so.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
You'd sort of be you'd be a you know, well
you're a genis right, you'd sort of a later was like.

Speaker 10 (01:40:08):
A good daddy to them, right, I spend a lot
of money on them.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
The problem, you're an enabler bar the figure.

Speaker 16 (01:40:19):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
They looked at me and they just used and abused me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Right, that's not good to hear. How often did you
hang out with them.

Speaker 10 (01:40:30):
Kids?

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:40:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
And and at what town are you in? And if
you don't mind me christ and so you knew that
these same young ladies would be at the particular bar
every every weekend.

Speaker 10 (01:40:43):
They went to this particular venue that I went to
and others, and they would hook up with young men
that'd go back to their place. I would tag along.
I'd be in one room, they'd be in the other
doing what they're doing. And it was just abused to.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
I want to come and hang out with you, ohen
that sounds like a hell of a party. The hell's
going on in the other room. So you were that's real.
I think I would sounded genuine.

Speaker 20 (01:41:12):
What did what did?

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
What are you doing in the other room?

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Why did I get put in the other room?

Speaker 10 (01:41:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
When you can leave that other room.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Thank you for your cool one. But just go home, mate,
don't go in the other room.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
Don't be handing out nags to these young women. Clearly
very good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
I don't know, gen X.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Just go home.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
If the millennials are partying, just go home. Don't follow
them back and be put in another room. Nothing good
happens in the other room, Andrew, Mate, Hello, Hello, I.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
Was a hard agre follow.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
It's all right. Do you supply nags to the younger generation?

Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
Andrew, Listen, I'm a proud boomer. Definitely none of that.
Uh that other to be clear, just to kind of
like have a distinction between bad behavior and being demanding,

(01:42:14):
I think you know that the boomers are definitely more demanding.
I don't think that I badly behaved on average. Of course,
there is a few that go the other way.

Speaker 8 (01:42:26):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
I think you get to a certain point in your
life where you know what you want. If you turn
up to like a winery or something like that, you
don't want to chase the worst of wines.

Speaker 28 (01:42:38):
Do you just want to have the.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
You know, sample what is good and platible food and wine,
and you will let people know if you're not getting it.

Speaker 15 (01:42:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
I mean, because I think there's a bit of a
problem in New Zealand with you know, we get what
we get and we don't get upset, and we will
often get you know, the you know, white stuff comes
over and asks you how your meal was, and I
think New Zealanders tend to just say it's good no
matter what. And I think a lot of that is
around and we don't have the tipping culture. But I mean,
are you that demanding If you get served bad food

(01:43:13):
and you say it's bad food, that doesn't make you
a bad client. I mean, if you know, sometimes food
comes out it's bad and you should say something. Am
I right?

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Andrew precisely and being interpreted as being bad behavior. I
think that we just need to reassess.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
We were at in the world because the last last
thing in the establishment wants is for people just to
shut up and eat bad food and they keep serving
it and they never find out and they go out
of business. You know that feedback actually help helps the establishment.

Speaker 5 (01:43:43):
Yeah, and it's even worse when it pops up on you,
like a Google review or.

Speaker 28 (01:43:48):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Yeah, that much Rather you set it to their face
than the publicly blast them and don't give them a
chance to write the wrong. Of course, you've got to
do it politely, right, you can't just go this is
disgusting and be a dick about it. But if you
politely say this isn't great, this is what I ordered, Yeah,
then I don't I don't think that's that. You know,

(01:44:10):
people are too quick to say that's entitled. But if
you paid really good money for a meal and it
comes out and it's not good, I think you're it's
not entitled, but you are entitled to just comment.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
On it exactly exactly. And so maybe that's where the
you know, we're losing a little bit of an interpretation
of here.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Now you've mentioned Andrew. I'm looking at the comments from
these bartenders, and I actually think the bartenders are sold
as zoomers here. I mean, if you're getting blasted by ARCon,
that's you know, zero degrees. Of course you've got to
say something. I'm getting blasted here. I'm freezing my big off. Yeah,
and then zoomers are saying, oh, they're demanded, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Yeah, and then the gen Xes are following young girls
home and sitting in the other room.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Right, a couple of ticks to wrap this one up.
Then we're going to have a catch up with acc
head Mike Lane about Super Rugby. It's down to the
pointy end, guys. There's a lot of tips coming in
for Owen. Actually, guys, I think that boomers are the
best behaved at the pubs. Yes, we can be demanding,

(01:45:15):
but the state of some of the gen x's and
millennials who are absolutely shit faced in their words and
making a disgrace of themselves, it makes me embarrassed for
the generations after me.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Have we just started a generation war with this topic.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
I believe we have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
I want to I want to pull back from this
topic and not do it. Can we go back in
time and just say it's individuals.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
We're in it now and we can't back out. We've
got to keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
I think there's good and bad people across all generations.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
We'll get one more on the line. Oh, Jeane, she
wants to talk about something fantastic. Actually, get a gene.

Speaker 20 (01:45:48):
Good afternoon, am I talking to.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Yep, you're talking to Matt with Tyler.

Speaker 20 (01:45:54):
Oh good, Well, I thought you might like to know
what it was like at the band dancers.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Certainly would we certainly would Gene in.

Speaker 20 (01:46:02):
The fifties and right on through to my until my
and grew up. It was the custom to have a
barn dance in the wool shed or a converted chicken
house or something. For the twenty first and as a
kindergarten teacher in the group we were invited to to.

(01:46:26):
I just turned the radio down.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Just hang on a minute, okay, Jane, will you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Yep, Bond Dancers. I mean that I'd never got lucky
enough to be invited to a Bond dancer.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
I was down in Featherston recently and I saw, you know,
that one of their big halls, and I was thinking
how fun it would have been back just you know,
you know, in the nineteen forties and fifties going out
and partying. Yeah, you know, like that in that old
school way.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Yeah, welcome back, Jane. Sorry, we're just talking about Bond Dancers.
You carry on, and you'd be I'll.

Speaker 20 (01:46:51):
Talk about the NAC one for because it was a
revelation to me. But anyway, the Hoi poloi of Nac
were all there and we had to climb up into
this chicken house with a chicken walk which was only
or about eighteen inches or more, no more than two

(01:47:13):
feet wide, and it was fairly steep, and as the
night we're on, some of these very elegant older ladies
were falling down the second walk and weighing all over
the grass. There's no toilets for them. The women just
had to find some way to go.

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
And now I'll move on.

Speaker 20 (01:47:32):
To the to the woolsheds, and we had one that
I had the members of the district bringing me up
afterwards and telling me, if you ever have an event
like that again, there'll be trouble. And my second son
flowed somebody for peeing in front of the girls because
toilet was outside for the men, the tarp worn around

(01:47:55):
the grating for the women.

Speaker 10 (01:47:57):
And that's all we had.

Speaker 20 (01:47:59):
We just accepted that we were country girls.

Speaker 16 (01:48:02):
Some of us.

Speaker 20 (01:48:03):
And of course they came out from the town with
My eldest was working with kind of choice ones, blue
collar workers and Dunedin at the time, and they were
the worst. They put a bottle of whiskey in the
keg of beer.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Dirty barga.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
See that is class flavor behavior, Absolutely classic Targo behavior. Hey,
thank you so much for your story, Jean. That's that
brought us a little Joe. I would have loved to
go one of those bardans.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
That sounded like a fantastic party, didn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
If someone rustles up a time machine, I'll blast back
there and but I'll do my urination discreetly, I promise, Jane.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Yeah, from now on right, great discussion, Thank you very much.
Coming up, we're going to have a catch up worth
acc hid Mike Lane is the pointing ended Super Rugby.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
What a great call from Jean.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Yes, fantastic. It is sixteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 8 (01:49:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
Sa'd be very good afternoon to you, Super Rugby semi
finals time. It is down to the point to gen
big game tonight Crusaders the Blues and tomorrow night Chiefs
versus Brumbies. To chat about this, We're joined by acc
head Mike Lane, get A, Mike get.

Speaker 28 (01:49:20):
A fellas they just just to clarify acc Alternative Commentary Collective,
not the Accident Compensation Corporation, Okay, because we get confused
with that. We get seeing claims all the time. We
obviously approve we're paying improve everything.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Thanks good, Yeah, that's generous.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Yeah, you just don't have any money to back it
up or any medical services. Also a host of the
Agenda podcast, and I'll be joining you on Monday for
to look back on what we're about to talk about now,
gen Laye. Can the Blues beat the Crusaders and knock
off that thirty and zero record they've got down there
in playoff games?

Speaker 28 (01:49:51):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Crusaders will be concerned because
this is techentially the worst team to play in playoffs
for they the Blues. They proved it last weekend. They
threw everything out there, they had everything on the line
and they managed to pick the Chiefs. And look, I
don't know if they can turn this into a bit
of a horrid affair down in christ Church. Keep it
nice and tight. I've got Body Barrett. He's come into

(01:50:13):
some form and at the end of a game, if
it's tight, you want Body Barrett on your team, and
I think that'll be the key difference the Crusaders. They've
got Taha Kima as the first five young, first five
ye young. But you can't go past body. So i'd
be nervous if I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Yeah. Well, look I dropped fifty on the Blues, but
they're only paying two to eighty. I thought it would
be more than that with that massive record. That just
goes to show it's not the Crusaders of the past.
But will anyone turn up G Lane because I think
I feel like down there, they're absolutely over the old
stadium and they're just not turning up until the new
stadium's built.

Speaker 28 (01:50:49):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like that. But they definitely want
to burn that place down when they're done with it.

Speaker 17 (01:50:54):
But yet you would have the.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Blues when they might burn it down this weekend, do it?

Speaker 16 (01:51:00):
Do it?

Speaker 28 (01:51:00):
Turn it down? Bring on to car Look, I'd say, look,
there's one game you're going to turn up to this
one tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:51:06):
It's the old battle, that's the old classic.

Speaker 28 (01:51:08):
Was Auckland versus Canterbury, Crusaders versus the Blues. I think
it's going to be there's going to be a bit
of spice in this one. Rique Juani and my costumes totutu.
They have been mouthing off quite a bit on social media.
They're not afraid to mouth off, which I quite like.
I love that brings a bit of spice to it.
It brings a bit of American sports to it, you know,
NBA players, NFL players, they're not afraid of expressing themselves.

(01:51:31):
And I quite like the fact that everyone's talking about
it and a little bit of something something to it.
The thirty and oero record, they're like, bring it on,
we're going to smash it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
And what about the Brumbies versus the Chiefs. Can the
Brumbies beat your beloved Chiefs mana? And we could see
the Dream Final on camera?

Speaker 28 (01:51:48):
Well yeah, oh my god, the Dream Final and camera
of what of the Raiders versus the Blues? Jesus Christ
help me, no, Chiefs Mana. You can't tell me last
week when they had that free swing last week, once
the Crusaders went, they could have afforded to lose. You
can't tell me that that didn't affect the Chiefs just
the little bit mentally that they knew that they didn't

(01:52:10):
have to win that game, unlike the Blues. So they
have to win this game against the Brumbies. It's at
home at FML Stadium there in the tron it'll be
a pack house. I can't see the Brumbies getting up
for this one. They will throw everything at it, but
I think in the end there'll be Chiefs marner up
the walls.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
And where can people listen to these fixtures?

Speaker 28 (01:52:29):
Glane, Well, you've got you've got the mission, your position
on gold Sport with the team of gold Sport. But
if you want to listen to the alternative commentary collective myself,
James mcconey, Mnia, Stuart matt Wood, you can listen on
iHeartRadio and also over there on your form your former
love radio Hodaki as well.

Speaker 23 (01:52:48):
Now there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Thank you so much, Glaane, and good luck to your
your beloved Chiefs.

Speaker 17 (01:52:52):
Yeah yeah, thanks mate, Thanks mate.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Enjoy it. That is Mike Lane acc Alternative Commentary Collective.
Heads and go the Crusaders, go the Chiefs. Put some
money down on it. Enjoy it. It is nine to
four back three short here on NEWSTALK'SBB.

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Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Six to four and we have a new thing I
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hundred and eighty ten eighty. It is the Matt and
Tyler Afternoons Caller of the Weekend. This week's call of
the week is Neil, who rang through on Wednesday on
the topic of immigrants who love New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (01:53:40):
Our country is great, you know, we're one of the
richest countries in the world. We've got infrastructure. We've got hot,
cold running water, electra through, we've got cars, we've got
a hospital system. Anyone can get a helping hand from
the government in our country. We've got beautiful beaches. We
don't have that many people living here. The South Island
is such a vast expense mountains, same in the North Island.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
It's just like I don't believe. I believe people grizzle
about our country. You know, in this world there's over
two billion people that still have to cook with dune
and would yeah, yeah, get about our country you know,
so yeah mate, love it well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Preached, Neil. What beautiful words from you. Yeah, I'm standing
on my feet. I've got I've got my hand on
my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Great New Zealand. Of that, Neil, turn those words that
you just said into our national anthem. Man, that makes
you feel proud of the beautiful stuff. Well done the
inaugural winner of the Caller of the Week. Fantastic man, Neil.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
What an inspirational caller that was. I've got my hand
on my heart. Absolutely beautiful And thank you to all
you great New Zealanders for listening to the show. Thanks
so much for all your calls and texts. We've had
a great time chatting to you today. I hope you
have too. The Matin Tile Afternoons podcast will be out
and about now, so if you missed our chats on
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But right now, Tyler, tell me why I'm playing this
absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Song, Harvest Moon. This is some sort of loose connection,
tenuous connection to our great farmers in rural community.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
One correct.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
There you go, wherever you are, whatever you're doing until
Monday afternoon, give them a taste of Kiwi from us.

Speaker 8 (01:55:37):
Love you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Because I'm still love with you.

Speaker 7 (01:55:50):
I want to see dance again because I'm stilling alone
with you.

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Ah Harness.

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