Full Show Podcast: 13 November 2024

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 13th of November, the Government's gang patch legislation is on its way - but will it work?

Kids and sport can be a super expensive thing - some say it is making it elitist or only for the rich.

Shihad are calling it a day - Matt and Tyler had a chat with Jon Toogood ahead of a discussion about your best concert experiences.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Zibi Afternoons podcast for the thirteenth of November four's
Why is the Best Folks? Great show. Today, we talked
about the gang Patch ban and we got a pretty
emotional call from Louise which changed my opinion on it.

(00:39):
So let's look out for that. And then we got
stuck into didn't we Tyler in the second hour, something
really really interesting.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
It certainly was kids in sport, the cost of kids
in sport. And you paid a lot for one of
your boys for cricket.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, oh my god. In rowing. Yeah, but as sport
becoming elitist in New Zealand, it's quite expensive for kids
to be involved at the moment. It's amazing how I
can forget what we've talked about. It was literally an
hour and a half ago.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, and we had some parents that would pay upwards
of one hundred thousand k for their kids and that
chosen sport. You have to listen to find out what
the sport is. Yeah, you'll never guess.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
And you'll find out what the cheapest sport is well.
And in the final hour we were talking about all
the concerts. We talked to Johnny Tugod about the shee
Hard breakup and their final tour of New Zealand, and
we talk about the Coldplay concert and just the best
concerts people have ever seen. And we talked to someone
that saw Elvis Presley law so good, Yeah, awesome is that?

(01:35):
And a lot of people talking about Ed Zippelin at
Wiston Springs. So it's a bloody good show, one of
our best ever. Cavin listen, give it a taste of key.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
We you're on.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
New Home for Insightful and Entertaining Talk. It's Mattie and
Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebbie.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, hello, how you doing well? I hope if you're
listening in the country. Thank you very much for your company.
As always, get a Mets.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Get a Tyler. Good everyone. So a few weeks ago
on the show, I was talking about some stomach issues
I had and then the text machine blew up on
nine two, nine two and calls through on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty telling me to go and get
it checked out.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
And it took me ages to get a doct's appointment,
but got to check out today. So people will be
pleased to hear that I had the most intimate of
inspection this morning and giving the blood tests and so I.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Did what well done, well done.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
All men should do when some of us don't do,
is when we have a problem, actually go and see
the doctor and get it checked out, and don't be
don't be silly about it, like like we often are
where we we we don't find the time or we
don't want to be a problem and we don't go
and do it. So I am forgetting a good telling
off from here the deeply see Ellen, he was one
of them.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
She personally came and told me.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
How did you down?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Actually she said, you book a doctor, and you book
it now, And so I did, and I've been in
there and look news. It was confronting. It was I've
got to say, for you know, anyone that knows what
I'm talking about, it we're going to talk around the issue.
But it's it's it's a it's an interesting way to
start the day.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
The relationship with your doctor moved up a notch.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, we know. Each other very well.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Now, Yeah, yet Nah knows me better than then I
know her. Yeah, great music and great message right onto
the show today after three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, that's right. So she had a breaking up. They're
going on the road for one last time. And look,
they've been described as one of New Zealand's best live bands.
I've seen them live dozens of times. I might have
seen them live more than any other band I've seen live. Yeah,
phenomenal live band, so many hits. They have been a
big part of the New Zealand music scene for a
very long time. But they're calling it quit. So we're

(03:38):
going to have Johnny too Good on the show for
a little bit of a chat about that. But we
also want to talk about live shows in general. We
have cold Play playing three shows two one hundred and
fifty thousand people in New Zealand this weekend at Eden Park,
So we want to talk about the best live band
you've ever seen in New Zealand, best key with you
are international band, the best concert you've ever been to.

(04:01):
And I've been thinking about this a lot. You put
me on the spot just before Tyler, and it's almost
a very hard question to answer.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It is for you because you've gone to a heck
of a lot of concerts and some of the biggest
acts we've ever had on this planet. I haven't been
to that level of concerts, but I've got someone in Mines.
They played in Auckland about fifteen years ago. I'll mention
that after three o'clock though, Yeah, ok, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
All right, okay, well let's talk about that. We'd love
to hear people's thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Also sport, Yeah, after two o'clock. So, Nelson's largest swim
club is facing an uncertain future as the astronomical price
of hiring lanes at the city's public pools puts pressure
on swimmers. And these are children, bear in mind. So
the lane higher at Riverside climb to forty dollars per
lane per hour. That's meant almost twenty kids have dropped

(04:52):
out of the club because the parents say it's just
too expensive. So that's just one scenario. But there's a
line that this particular swim coach said in this story,
it's just really sad to me that kids sport is
now becoming elitist.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Wow, Elita swimming, Yeah, I mean, I know, my kids
played cricket and that is an expensive sport. I bet
by the time they get all the gear, once they've
got the helmets and the bat and the pads and
the box and all of it, it is quite expensive.
And the kit bag, I guess, you know, I'm wondering,
and maybe we went too far or maybe we didn't

(05:28):
have to, but it felt like we had to get
all that stuff for the kids. But I remember when
I first started playing cricket, when I played a creet
high school. I was just grabbing everything out of the
kit bag, sticky old pads, the box at the guy
that had just gone out handed to do you do it?
But yeah, I mean it is. It's some sports, I mean,
different sports more expensive. I'd like to know how much

(05:49):
it is for a kid to play rugby these days,
with subs and such and boots and all that kind
of stuff. Depends how many kids you've got as well.
That'll multiply what costs. But it's the best thing you
can get kids to do in terms of teaching them
team work and getting them out and healthy and getting
them their rooms, getting them off social media, all those

(06:10):
kind of things. Yeah, that sport is very very important.
So it's be a pity if some kid was showing
an interest in swimming and then they just couldn't afford
to do it. It seems like something that we should be
doing everything we can to get kids into.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Absolutely, there's going to be a good discussion after talk clock,
but right now we want to talk about the banning
of gang patches.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So it's a week away from the gang patch ban
and there's two schools of thought on it. One of
them is that it won't do anything at all that
gangs that Yet people will say, well, I like to
see who my gang members are, and if they're going
to walk around and patches with patches on and represent
who they are, then we know who they are and
we can deal with that, and that way making difference.

(06:50):
But I think it definitely will make some difference. And
I like to hear people's opinions on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty whether they think it will make a
distant difference. But this may sound like a trite angle
on it, but I reckon there's something about wearing the
same thing and going out in public. It happens with
sports fans. When I go to watch the Warriors, it
feels cool that I wear my Warriors kit. It emboldens
you and it makes you love the team more. Same

(07:12):
with gang patches. I reckon you know, as I'm saying,
I'm trivializing it because it's a different thing, but it
makes it more And this will sound wrong, but it
makes it more fun to be in a gang. It
advertises their brand, and others will say that that. You know,
it will do nothing to weaken gangs, but in the
same way that banning wearing sports kit would weaken people's
allegiances to the team. You know, that's why we spend

(07:35):
billions of dollars. So I think it will make a difference.
It'll be one of those differences that is hard to quantify.
But they wear them now, and they wear them now
for a reason. The gangs love wearing them and taking
them away will have an effect on them, So I know,
I believe. I believe on that very basic level, it'll
it will affect the morale of the ban of the gang.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Well, well, funny you mentioned that because a quote when
this legislation was first tilted by the National Acts Coalition
and New Zealand first of course, Detective Superintendents Detective Greg
Williams said at the time that patches were really a
license to print money. That's why a lot of these
people want to get in there and get the patch,
because once they have the patch, then the gang is

(08:18):
controlling the area in which they control and they're also
part of a club. It is fun for these gang
members to get their patch, which is bang on what
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, and they don't do it for nothing. I mean
it's a very popular thing. It's across most of the
gangs in New Zealand, So why do they do it?
So if you're taking a way something that they want
to do, and they do obviously for a reason, then
you are hitting them in some regard. And I think
it's a deeper issue around around policing, and I think

(08:47):
there's going to be some other benefits there in terms
of policing, but we can go into that later on.
But oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty, what do you
think as the gang patch ban going to do anything?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, honesty, call this is and I know him in
a bubble and I'll get a lot of abuse here
and I'm all for it. But for most people in
New Zealand, do gangs interrupt your life? I get the
argument about drugs and the damage and the crime and
their community. But on your day to day do you
feel safer than a year ago when it comes to
gangs an honesty call, I do. I feel pretty safe.

(09:20):
I don't run into gangs that often on a weekly
or even yearly basis. So will this make a difference.
I hope it does. I really hope it does. But
I feel pretty safe at the moment. And if this
is about how you feel.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, that's how you feel, tired, sorry to cut you
off the app basket. If it's some people don't feel safe.
So some communities are very different. Like I could say
I don't interact with gangs much, but I live in
Central Auckland, and I get out of my house and
I drive my car into this office and then I
take the lift up and I get into the studio.
So I'm not in a rural community that's absolutely that's

(09:53):
riddled by gangs, and people and are intimidated by gangs,
and gangs are offered up as an option for young
people that don't have too many other options. So just
because I don't feel intimidated by gangs, I can't look
out and see that some people are we need to
do about do something about that.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've been
intimidated by gangs, if your life or family has had
impacts from gang behavior, I love to hear from you
as well.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
I w e.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine to ninety two is the text number. It is
quarter past one.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. That Ethen Tyler Adams Afternoons You for
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Speaker 3 (10:37):
News Talks THEREB. We're talking about the incoming gang patch
band that will be enforced from next week. Quick text here,
Tyler to gangs interrupts your life. If your kid is
on P, then they will stop being so bloody woke
from herman. Get your point, herman, But I know I
don't have kids on P and I'm not on P.
So clearly, look if that's if that's had an impact

(11:00):
on your life and your child is on meth and fetamine,
love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, but they don't have to be your kid for
you to be affected by someone on myth and fetamine
as well. Yeah, like so rates go up. And look,
you haven't been living in Auckland very long, but you
wander up and down k Road, you will interact with
people on myth and feta.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Mein I've seen it. I have seen it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes, And where does the myth infetamine come from a
lot of cases gangs?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, I suppose. Just to my point is a year
ago we heard nothing but gangs destroying all parts of
New Zealand life. It was in the headlines all the time.
Over the past couple of months. Not quite as much
gang activity that I'm seeing in the news, and I
know that's not the real life for everybody. But what
I'm saying is it was a massive problem a year ago.

(11:44):
To me, it doesn't feel like so much of a problem.
But I'm happy to be proven wrong. If you have
had interactions with gangs very recently or still ongoing, you
live next door to gangs, love to hear from you,
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty, what is it like?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, Well, I mean you could also say, look, I
haven't had a lot of interaction, my house hasn't been
burgled lately, but houses are still being burgled. So you
and you put into policies that lower the amount of
house burglaries, even if you live in a suburb that
isn't getting the house burgled a lot. Yeah, you know,
you look at the whole picture of the nation.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yep, good call, Jay, how are you hey?

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Guys? Now, interesting anecdotes here, But you drew a good
parallel and analogy that they were sport. You are right,
it will have the fact I'm doing moral But do
you do you remember or not when Michael Laws tried
to some longanui?

Speaker 9 (12:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (12:36):
Right now, what was the big problem with that in
the end month?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Refresh my memory. I know there was some fish hooks there,
but just refresh our memories.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
The biggest one, brother, And that's actually a very good analogy.
I've never actually thought about it. That is what you said, brother.
But here's the thing. A visible gangster is an avoidable one. Now,
what was happening to get these young bucks going around paying?
Gangs are all shipping and no, what's that meaning? I'm
a head under What do you say when they get
a hide? What I mean, at least so visible they

(13:04):
are avoidable.

Speaker 10 (13:05):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It's a good point. So with the targeting gang patches specifically,
you don't think it will make much differ of a difference.
In fact, it'll make it harder to find these guys.

Speaker 8 (13:16):
Well, that's right, there's that too. And also you are
right about the sports for as you say, you wear
a Warrior shirt. I mean I love the Black Cats.
I love wearing that shit. Yeah, you know, and bega,
it didn't work when Michael Wallas tried it all happened.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, oh, thanks so much for you for your call there.
I mean there is another angle to it as well
that whilst you know, people say, well that the gangs
will just flaunt it and and you know, what are
the police, how are they going to do? But but
also there's there's there's ways that police work where so
if they and this is a quote from a policeman saying,
you know that you know you have someone that's breaching

(13:50):
a few times and then you then you go you
have evidence of patch band breaches would enable police to
obtain warrants and have even greater greater powers to disrupt
the illegal activity. That's when you'll find all the cash
and their drugs, and you turn up at two in
the morning and wake them up in their kids and
find messing uns in their house, right, So this is

(14:10):
the policeman that's speaking off the record saying that you
know that you may be hitting the patch as the
breach and harrassing on that, but then as the breaches
continue it opens up. There their other activities to you
to investigate.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Very good point oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine two
is the text number. How are you feeling about the
implementation of the gang patch band coming in next week?
Love to hear from you. It is twenty two past one.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Breakfast survivors of abuse and care. Cooper Legal is representing
more than sixteen hundred affected client. Senior Associate Lydia Ostahoff
is with us, the people you represent.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
What's the feeling so far?

Speaker 12 (14:55):
We've come a long way, But an apology means nothing
if it doesn't come with a commitment to change.

Speaker 11 (15:00):
This is a massive thing. Given an apology is easier
to deliver. Is it unrealistic to expect here's a check
and here's how we're going to do it. I mean,
this takes time and you want to do it right,
don't you?

Speaker 12 (15:09):
Yes, and I think what we've got to realize is
the final report which tabled in Parliament in July for
the government, and that's a successive government have had the
Interim Readers Report since December twenty twenty one.

Speaker 11 (15:20):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Baby's Real Estate News Talk ZBS.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Twenty five past one.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
We're talking about the gang patch ban that's coming into
effect and a week will it do anything. I'm saying
that it's like a sports team. If you support a
sports team, you feel better and more emboldened and more
involved if you've got the cat on and someone has
texted through on nine two nine two being thank you
for your text, which agrees with me. Trust me. Gang
members feel a whole lot tougher with their patch on
take it off, and they act like puppies. Seen it

(15:48):
in the sharing gangs. No patch in the shed. They
act aal tough when the patches on take it off
and it's yes sir, no sir. So there you go.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Good text. Thank you very much. Craig. How are you
this afternoon?

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Yeah, good, guys. I think less laws that'd be dangerous
for all of us, you know, lad and Smith. You
said it saying yourself constantly say inspiance. Now they Tailer
mentioned the year or so back, all we heard in
the radio and the news was gang, this gang, that gang.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
That.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
I think they did a fantastic market employee to get
the support to get this law through, and I can
see it being used against that they had to change
the Bill of Rights for this law, and that that
bill of rights protect all of us, and what they've
changed in it, I can see down there from years

(16:41):
from now, you won't be able to wear anti political clothing.
You won't possibly be able to wear clothing that identifies
your religion, the salveage army uniform or something like that.
It's that the government has used the gangs, that it's
been a hot topic for the last few years, to

(17:02):
put in a law that can be used against all
of us down the line. And I think it's bloody dangerous.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I see it's saying Craig, because it is a suppression
of free speech. And when it's a suppression of the
gang's rights to free speech, we kind of agree with it.
But then that is because that's our current view on it.
But yeah, when you start making little changes to things
like the Bills of Rights. A different government comes in

(17:30):
with different views and then they have a president to
crack down on that is That's pretty much what you're saying,
isn't it absolutely?

Speaker 9 (17:39):
You know, you look at there's hate speech sools. Now
if what you say isn't suitable to the government of
the day, you're likely to get charged for hate speech,
you know. And I've got a couple of mates that
are in a motorcycle club in New Zealand, I think
probably the first one worldwide, and they are the most

(18:00):
hard working people I know. And I know there's guys
in there that do some bad stuff, but they're you know,
if of people think that they're all eating caviar and
I fill at stake every night, it's a load of crap.
And I just think it's a dangerous president that's been
set that one day will be used against you and

(18:23):
me and everything because it's Yeah, I think it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean that's that.

Speaker 10 (18:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I'm a huge supporter of free speech, and I'm very
suspicious of anything that takes free speech with people's ability
to express themselves. But Craig, if we took that off
off the off, the you know that put that point
to a side. Do you think that the gang patch
ban will be effective in the goals that the government

(18:53):
want to be effective in that it will be a
useful tool against the gangs.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
Well, I can't see it's being useful because if there
are the people within those environments aren't going to stop
there from all activity, the ones that partake in that.
I mean only the media tells ads that were intimidated
by gangs. You go to Pool Void Pub on any

(19:20):
given nice Sunday afternoon and you've got people and patches
of You've got people with their car clubs, you've got
just Joe Blow all together. No one's intimidated.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
That's funny you say that, because maybe I'm a wors
but I've been at the Pool Point Bub and I
have felt a little bit of intimidated by and not
not we're not just talking about and this is a
judgment making, but a bunch of gang members turned up
with patches on. And maybe it is that I've been
hyped up to feel intimidated, but I definitely did feel intimidated.

(19:57):
And maybe that's me being a whop, but I did
feel intimidated by a certain gang that turned up on
a bunch of bikes. But I love the.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
That's a shame, but I just yeah, I don't agree
with that because I just see where it's going.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Okay, No, fair enough to Craig, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
And it's a good point. And we've we've got to
mess with the Bill of Rights very very very carefully,
because yeah, as you say, at one point it's on
your side and then at another point it's not on
your side, and that's why the Bill of Rights exists.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, but just on their point, This whole legislation came
about because that was the mood of the nation, right,
the pendulum was swinging, that we were riddled with crime
and the police need to get tougher, and that was
the mood of the nation. Hence why we've got National
Acts and New Zealand first up there. They promised this legislation.
But if the mood of the nation changes, then this
is an easy legislation to row back on, isn't it.

(20:50):
If people decide, as Craig says, it's gone too far
and the wrong people are being targeted and the mood
of the nation changes, well then a new government might
just go along with that. Mood of the nation.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well, okay, so you say that you're not tyler, you
say that you're not specifically intimidated, and you don't experience
gangs and it's not a problem for you, right.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Not on a day to day basis, no.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
But knowing that there are gangs out there, how do
you feel about the gangs?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I don't like them.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
You don't like them, no, right, And do you think
that they're a problem in New Zealand society? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Absolutely, Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
So do you think that the police need to do
something about it?

Speaker 9 (21:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Okay. And so from the police's perspective and from the
government's perspective, this is a tool to do something about it.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
And if they can get into these gang houses and
they've got that opportunity to do that, I think it's
a good thing. Primarily around the drug trade. That's what
I hate most about it. And look, I'll say it
on the show that I had a cousin who was
on the periphery of the gangs, and my auntie has
had a lot to do on sort of the outskirts
of gang life, and she's pretty strong that she doesn't
like gang she doesn't like how they operate she doesn't

(21:53):
like what happens in the community. But not all of
them are bad people, but how they operate.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
But what do you think gangs? How do you think
gangs make money?

Speaker 9 (22:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
From drugs, from exact crime, right, yeah, from crime? Yeah yeah.
So yeah. So I don't know whether this is whether
this is an effective way to hit gangs or not
that that's really the question. But I think we all
agree that gangs aren't a great pathway for someone in life,
a young person going forward. We prefer that they didn't

(22:23):
choose the life of gangs, right yeah. And we would
prefer that there was less meth mphetamine out there, wouldn't
we So what is the solution? According according to the government,
and according to this police officer that I'm reading this
anonymous statement from, it is an effective tool the gang patch.

(22:45):
It's another way to target them and it's another way
to make them feel less bold in the community.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Where As you're talking about the sports analogy, and it's
a great analogy. It is, and I think you know,
and a lot of people push back at this, and
fair enough that this idea. We've got to stop people
joining the gangs in the first place. It's wally thinking,
and it hasn't done enough. And we've got to stop
treating the gangs with kiddie gloves, and I will get
a lot of those teats coming through, but that is
part of the solution. Clearly, that is a part of it.

(23:10):
And by I think I take your point about the
sports analogy. I think maybe that is another tool to
hopefully stop these young guys coming through and saying, hey,
I want that patch. I want to be part of
that gang.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
They think it, they think it looks cool, and there
are some pretty cool designs. Yeah, gang patches are very
well designed. They have great designers.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
They too, so no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And and people with them because they feel cool. So
hitting that whether you talk about the Bill of Rights
or or that, and that's that. Craig race is a
really important issue there, which which I'm torn on, But
there is no doubt in my mind that the patches
are there for a reason and a worn for a reason,

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and it makes people feel good about being the van
in the gang, and it emboldens them.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
No good discussion. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It is twenty seven to two.

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Speaker 3 (25:21):
Thank you very much. Rayleen. It's twenty three to two.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
We're talking about the gang patch ban that's coming to
effect in a week. Do you think it'll be effective?
Do you think it's the right thing to do? Robin,
Welcome to the show. You want to push back a
little bit on Craig who was concerned about suppression of
free speech in the tweaks to the Bill of Rights
that had to be enacted to get this bill over

(25:43):
the line.

Speaker 14 (25:45):
Yes, well, he mentioned that, you know, we already have
hate speech but as far as I understand, I do
support the Free Speech Union, and we don't yet know
those hate speech laws, and I think the longer we
can push back against those, the better, to be quote Honus.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, Robin, I actually actually he did say that, and
I was about I didn't get around to putting out
that we don't currently have hate speech laws.

Speaker 13 (26:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (26:05):
I don't know what they have tweaked in the Bill
of Rights to actually get the through, but one of
the things that happened to me was because I live
in an area of Hamilton where there were a lot
of people at war game patches. There's not nearly as
many now. In fact, I raally see one when I
drove around. But I had a bit of a fallout
with a bloke one day and he was showing me
his patch on the back and telling me he was
in the Mungrom and then he ripped up his jacket

(26:26):
and showed me that he had tattooed on his back
as well. So if it gives them courage, I'm not
sure if the actual literal patch does or not. But
one of my concerns is what do they actually do
to get those patches? They are a bit different. That
guy was saying, oh, you know, eventually it will become that,
you know, anything that anti government or religious symbol or

(26:48):
something like that, they'll do that. But I think part
of the problem is actually what they do to get
the patches. I'm not sure what they do these days,
but I remember way back a policeman was telling me
what they actually did to get them, and you know,
they're sort of quite inhuman type things that they do,
and that also is part of the problem. I think.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, yeah, so you think that the bands will be effective?

Speaker 14 (27:11):
Robin, Yeah, I'm not sure really because I think it
could cause an awful lot of resentment and how that
will backfire on the police to be quite honest. But
it is interesting around this area. As I said, we
had to ever see a patch now when we first
moved to this therea We deliberately moved to this area.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
Because we want to work in it.

Speaker 14 (27:33):
You know, you'd see a lot of them around with it.

Speaker 11 (27:35):
So Robert, do.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
You do you mind? Do you mind sharing what area
that is? Generally basically you don't have to obviously, Yeah,
don't feel comfortable.

Speaker 14 (27:42):
It was the Norton Crawls Shaw area of Hamilton, Okay, yep, yeah,
And you know, as I said, it was not you
know at all, and you know to go down the
street and see them and that kind of thing, and yeah,
but you know, as I said, I can't remember when
I at last saw one around here.

Speaker 15 (28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
In terms of the you know how much confrontation for
the police as well, they're going to have seventy seven
dead gang disruption offices supported by another twenty five rolls
in the National gang units. These for people take the
lead in establishing how the police would enforce the patch bands.
So they are deploying resources in this area.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, I mean across the ditch, New South Wales. They
would claim they have similar legislation that they put in
some time ago. They would claim that it's made a difference.
But also they had Strike Force Raptor as well, which
was a dedicated criminal task force to tackle the gangs.
So judging on their reporting of it, certainly reduce the
numbers of gang members that you see in the community.

(28:42):
But again there's concern and as you mentioned before, this
one is hard to measure the metrics on it. Concern
that they went underground.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah yeah, and also my thoughts that it's like a
supporting a sports team. You feel great and you feel emboldened,
and I do when I go to the Warriors and
we're my full Warriors cat, I feel great because I'm
part of something. So that's uncontifiable removing that what difference
that makes the gangs. But you have to know, and
you have to have real metrics of if there's less

(29:12):
gang members, if they're doing less crime or not, And
those numbers are harder to get.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
But public perception matters as well, right, so even as
Robin said, she hasn't seen a patch for a wee while,
if that carries on under this legislation, that is probably
a good thing. That if the public perception is that
I don't see gang members as much as I used to,
then they're not interrupting my life as much as they
used to. Clearly the government will paint that as one.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
So there's just as much crime going on, but you
don't feel it because it's not directly influencing or affecting you. Yeah,
I don't know about that one. I can see a
logic flaw in that.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is nineteen to two back in a moment it's done.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You take on talkbag Matt even Taylor Adams afternoons. Have
your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talk.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Z'b news talk Z'd be very good afternoon to you.
We're talking about the gang patch ban legislation coming into
force next week.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Hello, and you come your thoughts on this?

Speaker 16 (30:08):
H oh yeah, yeah. The all I'd just like to
say that we should always be putting there like kind
of those peatures and all its fitting the peatures to
do with gains and that's put them down. I put
them away because I don't know why we even were
even you're mentioning it was rugby teams and club teams

(30:28):
and all that. I know what you mean when they
say you're proud to use it. But we can be
telling our young kids this year, our boys, would you
would you edg your son? Would you let your son
wear once?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I would be mortified and it would be a worst
case scenario in my life if one of my sons
ended up in a gang. I can't I can't even
fathom how much that would worry me.

Speaker 16 (30:55):
Ex actually so. But what I mean is we just
got to school that fit there our young people because
they see it as glory and they're at school really
you know, when they're the young mind. And that's why
it's so easy for the games to push drugs for
our school because they're putting it on the unmeaning the species,
saying you know, you'll get a bike or a cow
or anything like that, and you get plenty of money

(31:17):
and you'll be proud, you know, be proud to do it.
But we've got to remember that the drug is throwing
our kids for a fire. Yeah, it's just showing, you know, authorities.

Speaker 17 (31:28):
We got to remember that.

Speaker 16 (31:29):
So we've got to really be harding spoilts for our
kids that the BETS is staying for fine, mainly crimes,
right yeah, and we know what they're staying for, so
we've got to really push it. We can't just get
it soft on it just because it's right. I know,
it's you're right, Yeah, we still we can't be soft
on it mate.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well you know, and and most people would agree with that,
and you can bet as banning the patch, Is that
going to make us stick a difference in tackling this problem.

Speaker 16 (31:56):
Uh No, it's just not glorifying to day. We can't
glorify I know, we you know, I just don't glorify it,
don't they It's not the same as other patches. I
would rather see my son have a s A is
bed drawn up from the army or something of that.
Do you know what I mean? We can't be mentioned that.
I can't be mentioned it was good bad?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, interesting TEXTI on nineteen ninety two. Wonn't they just
wear the gang colors instead? Red shoes, black and red
clothes as an example? And yeah, gang patches are actually
quite a unique New Zealand thing and Australian thing. Gangs
don't around the world were gang patches. And look, if
you go to Los Angeles and the Cryps and the Bloods,
they represent what side they are on by the colors

(32:40):
that they wear.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, yeah, very true.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Blue for the Crips and red for the Bloods.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, you can, thank you very much. Always good to
chant Louise, how.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Are you.

Speaker 18 (32:48):
Good?

Speaker 19 (32:49):
Thank you? Just on the colors thing that that does
happen here or certainly does an Auckland anyway, and I
think is an identifying thing. I guess my thoughts on
the patch situation. I've come from it from a completely
different So I provide rehabilitation in the community and I

(33:13):
kind of rely on those patches to know what's going
on into the houses that I'm going into to see people,
because I don't get a heads up until I turn up,
so if all of that disappears in One of the
things Mark Mitchell said was they would also band patches
within people's own homes. From a safety perspective, I kind

(33:36):
of need to read the room literally and the street
to know my safety, what colors I'm safe to wear
when I go and see a particular client just an
unforeseen consequence of that banner. It's actually.

Speaker 16 (33:58):
Safety.

Speaker 19 (34:00):
We might not like it, but at least you know
what you're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
That's really interesting, Jess. And so when you go into
a house and you're trying to help and then you
see gang insignia and you know that this is a
house that's that is affiliated with gangs or gangs are about,
how does that change how you interact with that particular situation.

Speaker 19 (34:23):
So I probably take two people. I wouldn't go on
my own.

Speaker 15 (34:28):
I've taken that the.

Speaker 19 (34:30):
Therapist with me and we'd go out together, but I
wouldn't know there. Yeah, I didn't if I didn't see
the signs.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, so that sorry you continued yess rehab.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
But.

Speaker 19 (34:43):
I give a bit of support.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah. Yeah, so that the and it's third reading, the
changes meant that someone who has two convictions for displaying
a gang patch could be jailed if they are found
with gang insignia in their private home or anything with
gang markings on it.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, Luis, just on the wider discussion around gangs and
their impact on the community, what's your view on that? Clearly,
I mean, you made your point for very clear about
the patches that that is a part of keeping yourself safe.
But gangs in their impact, how do you view that
as someone that goes into these times.

Speaker 19 (35:18):
Oh, it's shocking, and I totally agree with Nwkin saying,
you know, we shouldn't be glorifying this. This isn't something
for young particularly young men, to aspire to. But it's
also young woman who use it as protection, you know,
so they will affiliate because they feel protected. But the
amount of violence that I work with that's related to

(35:40):
gangs and myth is unprecedented. I've never come across it
in my thirty years of doing this work. It's horrific.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
So, Luise, you know meth became a problem in New zealand'
you know a you know, decade and a half, two
decades ago. So how materially has that changed, Because it's
a little bit different in my eyes with gangs selling
marijuana than it is gang selling myths. How much have
you seen that change?

Speaker 19 (36:09):
Oh? I can't begin to tell you how. Yeah, the
majority of my case floid would be violence related to kidnappings,
all meth related hideous incidents. It sounds like I'm confabulating,

(36:30):
but I'm not. I wish I was, but I'm not.

Speaker 20 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well, I know people that have come from really good
backgrounds and that have had every opportunity and chance in
life who have become addicted to meth. And the depth
that they've sunk to and the terrible things that they've done.
It's a scourged It's unbelievable. You can have a person
who becomes a completely and utterly different human being. You

(36:56):
can have someone that will change from a good person
that cares about people to someone that is behaving in
an evil manner that would have disgusted themselves. It probably
discussed them Now to discuss themselves leaves into more more myth,
myth and fear. To me is it's depressing and shocking
and just yeah, I like, I feel for you having

(37:19):
to deal with in that in that world. It must be,
it must be, it must be so difficulty.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Final question for you, Louise, what is the solution in
your eyes? I mean, what do we need to do
as a society to deal with what you witness on
a weekly basis?

Speaker 19 (37:37):
Gosh, I don't I don't have any answers to that.

Speaker 15 (37:41):
I really don't.

Speaker 19 (37:42):
I think myth is as we just said, you know,
get rid of there and my casely reduced. It's I
think that's you know, it's actually dealing with what they
the crimes they're committing, rather than the patch. Than the

(38:03):
patch is just I don't know, society issue in my
in my mind.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, thank you so much for your call, Louise, thank
you for sharing that.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, great call.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
So I one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you
think the patch, the gang patch ban will will do anything? Yeah,
boy boy mes.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, absolutely, seven to two back in a.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Month, Matteath, Tyler Adams teaking your calls on Math and
Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
News Talks B, News Talks B. It's five to two.

Speaker 20 (38:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
So we're talking about the gang patch ban. And this
is why I'm really enjoying my move to talk back
because you have a strong opinion and then you get
questioned by callers as you go through. And my gut
feeling is still that the the banning of gang patches
will have an effect on gangs because they wear them
because it makes them feel cool and it makes them

(38:57):
feel emboldened. But then you've got Craig coming in with
the Bill of Rights and Free Speech, which I'm a
huge spider of And you've got Louise who's in the
cold face and she wants to know that people are
gangs before she has to go into houses to try
and help. So there's so many gray areas, But I
think one thing that we can all agree on is
we have got to come to find a solution to

(39:20):
myth and myth and fetamine abuse and the damage that
it does in our country is so depressing and so
invasive and so bad that and the gangs are involved
in that. So we have to come up with a solution.
No one's come up with a solution that's worked yet,
but we need to come up with a solution for
meth and fhetamine in this country.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Nicely said, yeah, absolutely insidious.

Speaker 21 (39:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
That is where we'll leave a good discussion, deep discussion.
We're going to change it up after two o'clock. We
want to talk about the cost of kids sport. Concerned
from a Nelson swim coach that it is becoming elitist
in terms of the amount of money parents have to
pay to get their kids into various sports. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to cool
love to hear from you on this one. Nine two

(40:04):
nine two is the text number. News, Sport and weather
on its way. Great to have your company. As always,
we'll see on the other.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Side talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Tyler
Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four News Talk SIB.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. It is seven
pass two, very very good to have your company.

Speaker 10 (40:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
A story that's caught our interest this morning and it's
to do with the cost of kids sport. Nelson's largest
swim club is facing an uncertain future as the astronomical
price of hiring lanes at the city's public pools puts
pressures on swimmers and their parents. So during winter, the
Nelson's South Swim Club moves from its summer home to
Riverside Pool, which is a council operated indoor swimming pool.

(40:53):
The lane higher has climbed to forty dollars per lane
per hour this year, so coach Glenn Finlace is the
cost as an obstacle and has already resulted in about
twenty kids dropping out of the club. He says it's
a big barrier to enter and it's increasing hard to
rank retained He went on to say that swimming, as
we know, is a healthy exercise for children and had

(41:14):
mental health, self confidence, and social benefits. It's just really
sad to me, he says, it's not prioritized because the children.
The cost is generally falling back on families to pay,
and kid sport is becoming elitist.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, that's an interesting perspective because sport has always been
seen as the great leveler in our society, where people
from lower socioeconomic backgrounds can really show themselves and move
up in a way against everyone else. Because you know,
just money doesn't mean ability. But that's a problem when

(41:48):
your ability to participate in sport is out of your
means because of the cost. So I'd be interested on
our an one hundred and eighty ten eighty to hear
from people who haven't been able to put their kids
into sport, or have had to make great sacrifices to
get their kids into sport because of the cost. Yeah,
or have just been surprised by it. Now on a

(42:11):
personal level, I'm a huge cricket fan, so my son
played cricket and I was pretty amazed at the cost
of all the gear that I had to get him
to play cricket. Cricket is a really expensive sport. Doesn't
start up expensive when they're little and they're playing key
with cricket that doesn't cost very much at all. You
get yourself a bit of a yellow plastic bat and

(42:31):
some of those incredibles and you're good to go. But
once if they move up and they show any any
skill in it, there's not the thing anymore. And maybe
I was at the wrong cricket club or I'm not sure,
but the club didn't really supply the gear for the cats.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
It was up to you as dead as a parent
to supply that gear.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, and you know, I was coaching my son's cricket
team for a while, but just going through roughly, this
is how much it costs to cut my son out
as he got better onto hard ball cricket YEP. One
hundred and five dollars for the bat, one hundred and
twenty nine dollars for the thigh pad, hundred and eighty
dollars for the boots, ninety dollars for the gloves, one
hundred and twenty dollars for the pads, one hundred and
twenty dollars for the helmet, ten dollars for the box

(43:15):
you skimp on that, and a ninety dollars bag, so
that all came to eight hundred and twenty four dollars.
And I am fortunate, out of pure luck to end
up in a broadcasting job where I can afford to
spend that much money on my kids cricket gear. But
there is peer pressure from kids as well to have

(43:37):
the good gear, and it's not nice to be the
kid that turns up. And look, when I was a kid,
my dad stayed at university till quite late in life.
So when I was a kid, I couldn't play football
one season because we couldn't afford the boots. And it
wasn't until my cousin gave me his football boots that
I could join the team. I was trying to play
and beer feet and the coach wouldn't let me, and

(43:59):
and barter bullets. But you know, and luck we ended
up being fine as a family. But at that point
we went well off. And I know back in the
day as well, you know, shoes and boots and all
that kind of stuff were a lot more more expensive
in the eighties. Yeah, but it would be a real
pity if kids couldn't participate in the sport that they're

(44:21):
good at because they couldn't their parents couldn't afford to
do it.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, yeah, Well was that old line that used to
be touted kids in sports day out of court, and
it was a nice line, but it had a lot
of meaning behind it.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Right there.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
You get kids involved in these social clubs and sporting
clubs and it is good for them. And as this
coach said, mental health, your physical health, you know your
place in society, self confidence, the social benefits are numerous.
And the fact that it is costing in this case
forty bucks per laye per hour, that's a big cost.
They have to pass that on to the parents. And

(44:54):
I shouldn't laugh when you said you wanted to play
football when you're in bear feats, because that is the
case for a lot of kids out there at the
moment right if their parents can't afford these boots, which
what at a bare minimum would be maybe eighty bucks,
and then you've got to pay the sub then you've
got to sometimes you've got to try and fundraise to
get them around the country. Love to hear from you, Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is kids sport becoming

(45:16):
a bit elitist.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, and have you been surprised by how much you've
had to spend on your kids sports? And as that
or is the sky wrong and that there's plenty of
support out there and if your kid wants to play
sport then then people are stepping up to provide the
gift for them. One hundred eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It is twelve past two.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Your new home of afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoon Call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
ZEDV News Talks. Be very very good afternoon to you.
We're talking about the cost to get your kids into
sport and a cost of living situation as we've had
for the last twelve months, it is becoming increasingly harder
for parents to do that. This is on the back
of a swim coach and Nelson who said that they
are losing kids left, right and center from the club

(46:03):
on the back of what they call astronomical pricing of
hiring the poll that they need over winter.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
You would think that swimming would be a cheap sport.
You just need speedo and some goggles and you go.
But the lad well you're faster shav your legs and
you go faster than a speeder. Yeah, but I'll be
interested to know how much it costs to play rugby
these days. And obviously, as I said, before primary school age,
it's a lot cheaper, and as they get better at

(46:30):
a sport, it becomes more expensive. And when you get
to high school there is gear provided, but it's not
necessarily the best gear, and as you end up as
a parent really having to buy your kids better gear
than they've been provided by school. Although, to be fair,
my son and his last year of school, I was
really amazed. The head of physical education at his school

(46:55):
is an amazing person and managed to organize the money
through fundraising to get him some really really spectacular gear
not for him but for the team in general that
he was playing. And people do so much in the
community to help kids into sport because we all know
how good sport is for kids.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I mean, if you can have your kids sitting at
home playing video games or sitting on social media slamming
junk food, or you can have them really really excited
about sport, then I think it's a no brainer. What's
better for them.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Definitely, if you're one of those people give us a
buzz oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If
you're part of a sports club, love to hear from
you you as well, How hard is it for some
parents to keep their kids at the club? Get aden here?
You are the going you could. So you've spent quite
a bit of money for your two young boys to
play football this year.

Speaker 22 (47:43):
Made it's astronomical.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
I mean I think we're sort of, yeah, four or
five hundred bucks in fees and subs, and then you've
got one hundred bucks each for cats and a hundred.

Speaker 22 (47:52):
Bucks each for boats. And then on top of that,
you have to pay for private training because being part
of the club doesn't actually provide you any training. So
you've got to facilitate that yourself as a parent, or
share it around the parent group or whatever this whatever
the case.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Ov But one person has to be manager, one person
has to coordinate, one person as a coach.

Speaker 23 (48:11):
On top of all that, you're going to take keeps
time off to potentially make it happen. Yeah, yeah, I
mean that's good, that's great.

Speaker 22 (48:17):
It's great for them to get involved. You know, spend
any money I had to make that happen. But Jesus
not cheap.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and then just on a very
basic level transport because you know, and my kids played
sport in Auckland and it always seemed to be always
seemed to be playing in East Auckland, or they always
seem to be playing the furthest away you could possibly imagine. Yeah,
you know, forty five minute, hour and a half drives
to get to the games.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, so if we.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Look at more help, you're talking about before the days
of having a share of box are gone and long
behind us, which is good.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, that is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, I don't know. You just spit on it, wipe
a sock on it and go.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
You boil.

Speaker 23 (49:01):
It as well, the soaking wet heads and they come off.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, you're wearing pads. I remember when I played cricket.
You're wearing pads. You're running like a duck, you're falling
over in runs, they're flopping around the back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah. So for you as a parent, Dan, you know,
there's there was a call by New Zealand Amateur Sport
Association for a universal student sports subs subsidy paid by
the government to enable all students to be part of
a school team. Do you think that would be value
for money.

Speaker 24 (49:34):
I definitely think it would in certain parts of the city,
in the country obviously, and a lot of the inner
city suburbs. Parents can't afford to fund that sort of
stuff themself, and yeah, definitely got on them, you know
what I mean. But it's certainly not cheap.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
No, yeah, absolutely, if there's some help for people one
hundred percent behind it.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, nice one.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, there's things as well, like my kids got into rowing,
and that is an incredibly expensive sport, as you can imagine,
but there was a system set up in the subs
where people that could afford to play pay more did.
And then there was secret spots that were in there
for people that were interested and it could show talent,
but they could be part of it and their fees

(50:17):
were covered by the other parents paying more. So parents
do a lot. Yeah, And you know, and as you mentioned,
coaches and organizers and that huge amount of effort that's
been put in is just a beautiful thing. You know,
the fact that people will take their time and you know,
teachers at schools that will take time above and beyond
what they already do to teach kids, and then parents

(50:37):
that will coach kids. All that stuff is phenomenal and
it is an economic input, even though you can't put
a financial figure on it, because you know, if you're
coaching a team, you're having to leave work at you know,
at three point thirty to coach that team. You have
to make a sacrifice for it.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Those volunteers. Great New Zealander is absolutely just on the
uniforms man, Yeah, because a lot gets made of school uniforms, right,
and the price for school uniforms it's a bit of
a rought and they shouldn't be that expensive. Is that
a little bit at play with sports uniforms that they
don't probably don't need to be as expensive as they
are for parents.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know, I'm not one hundred percent sure about that.
You know, when my kids played for clubs, it's a
bit different. When you go you play for clubs and
you play for high school, you're going to have to
buy their sports uniforms. Yeah, I mean there's definitely a cost.
Someone might be able to help me on that. I
eight hundred eighty ten eighty how much are sports uniforms

(51:35):
costing at each level when they're playing at club level
and then they go to high school Because that's another
thing as well. And if someone's texting through you know,
you can get boots on Marketplace and such and get
them cheaper. And definitely you can look around and find
your uniform secondhand. There's a wash of kids that have
pulled out or kids that have grown older, but it's

(51:56):
different expense and if you've got two, three, four kids.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
It really rocks up there, definitely does I eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You're a good man, thanks for giving us a buzz.
It's twenty one pass too.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Matt Heathen Tayler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Good afternoon, it's twenty three past two and we're talking
about the cost of kids sport being astronomical for a
lot of parents. Love to hear your thoughts on eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, it's been positive that sport in New Zealand, in
some sports, is becoming only for the elite. This text
aro on nine two nine two at our Cricket Club,
the home of the nine I Express You and Chatfield, brilliant,
Charlie Chatfield. We still have to drink out of our
us sweaty box of the player who scored the ton
that day gets passed around. Great for team building in camaraderie.

(52:50):
That's sort of off topic that one, but I'm not
sure of the health ramifications of that.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Does the player who got the ton have to drink
out of the swoty box? I suppose not, Peter, how
are you?

Speaker 8 (53:02):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (53:02):
You guys, my daughter is a water poloed closes like
the swimming pool. The seas huge each tournament, and they're
saying to me about four per year is about a
thousand bucks. WHOA, yeah, we're we're The cost is also
hard for the parent taking time off. Yeh, loser, you leave,

(53:28):
it's just gone, you know, especially if you're driving up
in your car pulled to make it cheap, or sometimes
it's stible to fly it. You know, you don't have
to leave on a Friday, so you're taking the work
day off work on Friday and then taking a day
off work on Mondays to attend the tourtments. And it's
you know, you do what you can as a as
a parent, but.

Speaker 16 (53:47):
Holy cow, it's it's not cheap.

Speaker 10 (53:50):
It's uniform wise. You know, you have to buy a
special special tag what is about one hundred and thirty
five bucks, you know, and buy that off the club
and you know, swimming camps and all that, and like
you said, full time and yeah, it just ends up quick.
But I was under saying that when I was in
American football here in London, I bought all my own

(54:12):
gear as a club. The club did supply their own,
but that was close to a thousand dollars.

Speaker 25 (54:19):
MM.

Speaker 10 (54:20):
It really hasn't changed that much too much over the years.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
You know.

Speaker 10 (54:24):
If you want your own stuff and you want a
particular brand or model or like you said, the better
of the helmet, says the club.

Speaker 17 (54:33):
You're going to pay for that.

Speaker 10 (54:34):
And I do think there should be a cap at
some stages. Some surize that, especially if you're a solo parent,
because you want your kid to be involved in anything
and everything they can, right, and it's you know, keeps
them off the phones and yad the card work.

Speaker 15 (54:52):
But you do it.

Speaker 10 (54:54):
You just find a way to do it.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
And yeah, Peter, and it's interesting you say that your
daughter plays water polo. Did she come up through flippaball?

Speaker 10 (55:04):
Flippaball so the school flippaball was quite good. Everyone, you're
going to have to worry about uniform and and now
she's only just finished playing clubs this year and thankfully going,
thank goodness all that. Seriously, yeah, you're going I can't
afford to sing you on these trips, and quite a

(55:26):
few trips. Is like, honey, you're going up on your own.
I can't come up this time, and well I just
got no leave of work. And you know I was
like okay then, and that's just how it was. But
you know, she got four years of club from the
age of twelve through the last year. And then you're

(55:47):
throwing an Australian Development tour in there, and yeah, money.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Well, Peter, you're clearly a great dad the time and
if it and financial sport you put in there. And
it's interesting you bring up water polo because people go, oh,
why don't you play the cheaper sport, But you just
want your kid to get into the sport that they're
into and their body type or the implement or what
they can excel at you. You can't choose that, and
then they'll come across the sport that they find and

(56:15):
maybe it's water polo that's a bit more expensive than
another sport. But as a parent you're like, I'm just
glad they're into sport. I had two sons, one was
very supportive and one wasn't. But then the one that
wasn't found flippaball and that was that was so great.
I didn't have a choice what sport they found.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Yeah, the biggest.

Speaker 10 (56:34):
Problem in Wellington that there is is having a pool
available that's deep enough, right, so all they like my
daughter last year, her trainings were at eight two at night.
You know, they go for an hour and a.

Speaker 15 (56:47):
Half two hours, so that was the.

Speaker 10 (56:49):
Only time to get full time and in a deep
pool when you know once nine eyes do next year,
well who have pulled the other for deep water is
closing down for mentionment for eight nine months. So where
we haven't achieved anything where we're found.

Speaker 17 (57:08):
Auckland schools in their clubs they're using school swimming pools,
you know, and it probably is cheap of them, but
she was down here.

Speaker 23 (57:19):
It's it's pretty hard.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
But every sports a sayment well, just on that point, Peter,
And this is what kicked off this topic was this
Nelson swim coach who was flabbergasted at the cost for
the council run swimming pool. And I suppose you know
that makes me extra annoyed that it's a council pool.
Council should be about providing for the community and kids.
Sport is a massive part of the community. Of course,

(57:42):
charge you know for members and rate payers a little bit,
but for kids, just make it free or heavily discounted.

Speaker 10 (57:47):
Surely, well, what's the club if they joined the club.
The club kind of is the pool. Whereas so we're
going to discount it rate I would assume for total
pool closure, right if there's a tournament on that pool's
closed all day Saturday, all day Sundays from learn to swim.

Speaker 17 (58:10):
Sport.

Speaker 10 (58:11):
So I understand the cost of that, but yeah, some
lip there must be. It has to be eliminate somewhere
you go enough enough or sorry you plucked it once.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, well thanks you called Peter. You obviously a great dad.
Now at the other side of it as a parent,
and this appearent going through this with a kid that
played cricket, I was huge cricket pan he played cricket.
He was good, yep, and he got into a bunch
of teams, ended up playing more and more cricket. I
spent so many hours on the sideline, coached his team,
drove him, drove him everywhere, really cut about it, spent

(58:44):
a whole lot of money, was really involved. One day
he's like, I don't want to play cricket anymore, and
its and whilst it was the good thing to do,
at the same time, you thought, I have spent so
much time on your cricket and all of a sudden
is you can't think of anything worse that that. I'll

(59:05):
tell you what I I went into a little bit
of a funk about.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Bit of agree period.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
There was a bit of a grieving period actually, to
be fair, and this is I don't want to be
one of those parents. And you know I didn't let
this on Tim, so I know he's not listening, so
it's fine. But when he started raise the question with
me he didn't want to do cricket anymore. I was
so gutted.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Was part of you living through him. He was clearly
a good cricketer and you think.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
He was so much better at cricket than I ever was.
And I was proud because he was a fast bowler
and I always wanted to be a fast bowler. All
that stuff, But you put that time in but you
got to Yeah, you've got to do it, and it
cannot be about you. And that's why I think a
lot of parents spend so much money on it, even
money that they can't afford, because you know, the sport
is so good for them, and you know, of all

(59:49):
the things you're going to do that that is for
your kids, that is one of the most helpful and
sort of wholesome helpful in a number of ways, from
becoming a team player to being athletic, all those kind
of things for health. So but yeah, when you've put
all that effort and then one day they go, nah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
There were moments for you was a dead that way.
I mean, it would have been prashing pro dead moment moments.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Crickets are pretty punishing sport to watch, Yeah, I mean,
especially when they get better and they're playing more and
more games and you're sitting on the sideline and then
you're just terrified when they're batting for them and then
they go into an emotional funk when they don't do
so well and you're trying to be supportive and and
you know, you you you live it, but also you
go there was a lot of times when I was
really really bored on that side watching as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Thank you, Rayleen. It's twenty five to three and we're
talking about the cost of kids sports.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, that's on a back of a swimming coach that
said a lot of his players, a lot of his
players as swimmers, a lot of the people he's coaching
kids he's coaching if had to pull out due to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
The costs, Yeah, forty bucks per hour per lane. It's
too much for a lot of pearance, he says. But
it's not just swimming. Right across the board, you mentioned cricket.
The cost to get your one of your sons into
cricket was about eight hundred bucks a year this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Texas here on nineteen nine, two seas. I've got two
farm boys into motocross and mountain biking. I've got fifty
k with the machine and equipment in the shed. I'll
take swimming a cricket any day, years Nick, Yeah, you
got to be careful the sport that your kids fall
in love with. One of mine fell in love with
rowing after cricket, and that certainly certainly took a whack

(01:02:49):
in the wall at that one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
The old man. We went into snowsports, skiing, and then
we wanted to get into snowboarding. It was on the
old man and when snowboarding became cool, and said, Dad,
I want to get into snowboarding. Day he said, nah, nah, nah,
you're sticking with skis. You don't like skis, well buy
your own, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I had a friend whose son was getting really good
at cricket and he was having to spend a lot
of money and spend a lot of time and the
weekends going and watch and he was thinking about trying
to convince this say he wasn't as good as he
thought he was quit.

Speaker 26 (01:03:18):
Net.

Speaker 23 (01:03:18):
How you I'm fantastic, glad, tell are you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Yeah? Very good. So you got three kids all into
their sport?

Speaker 16 (01:03:26):
Actually five boys. I've got three currently living at home
with me, the two oldest they've moved out. However, I
do believe that it's important to put your kids into sport.
They make lifeli friends.

Speaker 17 (01:03:35):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:03:36):
The cost is not really an issue. I don't come
from a big socio economic background. However, I think every
cent you pour into your kids in this regarden to
sports is worth every penny. My kids play rugby in
the winter and softball in the summer, so we try
to keep them active. It's keeping them active that I

(01:03:58):
think is the most important thing that yees.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Five kids is a lot. Even though you say that
you know that the cost as bearable, even though you
don't have a whole heap of money, five five five
is a lot, no matter what what way you look
at in terms of time and and financial input.

Speaker 16 (01:04:19):
Well, well, what is this. Either spend the money on
my kids and go down to the firepay the cigarettes.
I don't smoke cigarettes, or boss, you know what I mean.
I think there's money, there's more valuable spent on them
and there we go. Yeah, they're on myself because I'll
probably just waste it, to be honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Yeah, fair enough. So what do you reckon just a ball.

Speaker 16 (01:04:38):
On the other side of that, too, is they play
rip sports, So again I've got to pay again. I mean,
they'll never get these experiences through any other avenue in life. Yeah,
we turn up the sports grounds now and it's it
takes ten fifteen minutes to get to where we're going
it just because all the hellos you've got to do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
That's great.

Speaker 16 (01:04:58):
Yeh, does somebody else you have your bet off taking
a tape record and just record a message here, we've
got to beat it. You know, we're done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
And the other thing for pearents like you invest the
money and your kids and you're doing it for your
kids as well. But for me, when my kids gone
to sport, I meet a lot of parents on the
sidelines and a lot of parents coaching that have become
you know, one of my very best mates was I
was randomly, randomly put with him when we just decided
to coach a cricket team and we're very very good
friends of the day to this day. So the investment

(01:05:28):
you put in kids sports, whilst obstensibly are you doing
it just for your kids, it is a great way
to meet people that you wouldn't normally meet outside of
your social circles, outside of you know, your your work circles.
You meet all different types of people and that's one
of the really really great things for sport, both kids
and parents.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Definitely, yeah, well noick, if one of your boys becomes
an all black. He can sort you out later on.

Speaker 16 (01:05:52):
Eh, well, I'll see acrossing my fingers and hopefully it
doesn't go all in vain and they give it up
next year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Well that that is always here you go next SR.

Speaker 16 (01:06:04):
So for me, if the kids enjoy it, you know,
it's about making them happier, sitting setting them up for
like they get. Yeah, they get other lessons in life
that I can't necessarily teach them my homewight team work.
I can't necessarily teach them the team work because the
last thing they want to do is report each other
with their brothers. Yeah, they rather do get out than

(01:06:27):
help each other out. They step on the sports field,
they've they've got to get along, they've got to hear
other opinions. They've got they have to listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
So yeah, well, well, I mean in sportsmanship is just
a huge thing, and it's a lesson that you learn
out on the park that you might not learn anywhere else.
And I remember one time I was I was, I
was playing sport and I blamed another player, and the
southerly I got from my dad and the car on
the way home for my behavior was a really really

(01:07:00):
important lesson in life around not blaming other people and
taking you know, accountability for what you do yourself first
before you start pointing the finger. Those lessons in sport
are lessons for life.

Speaker 20 (01:07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Absolutely, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to cool. Love to hear from you on this one,
and it is nineteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
We are talking about the cost of getting kids into sports.
Takes tire, Hi, guys, my son was showing real promise
and go karting crime wool two years nearly bankrupted, bankrupted
the family. I bought the six point five thousand dollars
go kart and the chain came off. The first practice
session cost over a grand to replace the bits and

(01:07:54):
the chain smashes that flew off. I'm glad the boys
stuck to football. Now from Greg, what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Do you think I'll be interested in people's opinions on
this eight hundred and eighteen eighty What is the cheapest
sport that you can push your kids into? Someone was
saying taekwondo is pretty cheap running. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Running shoes, Yeah, as you get.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Better at running, you need the ones that are that's
that are molded to your feet, unless you do the
Lulla bud and send them out on their bare feet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Allison, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 13 (01:08:21):
Oh hi?

Speaker 20 (01:08:22):
I just wanted to talk to you about what we
got our children too, and it doesn't fall under the
cheapest category unfortunately. When we've got we've got a son
and a daughter and they were nearly five and seven
and we got started into boreroom dancing and they stuff
started with middle classes and then they went through their

(01:08:45):
medals and then they got obviously they got quite good,
and then they got partners and then they danced ballroom,
New Vogue and Latin. So we needed all the gear,
all the shoes, and they had partners. Sixty dollars for
an hour's lesson, which I used to share with the
other with because the kids had partners, so the parents,

(01:09:06):
the partner's parents would pay hard. We would pay half,
but they would be having a New Vogue, a Latin
and a baarroom. They'd be having that three or four
times a week. Then you've been paying for the practices
and then all the outfits and they did that for
ten years. We would have spent well over one hundred
thousand dollars, but there was an incredible I know, just

(01:09:29):
sort of we sat down and added it all up
once and we used to fundraise to do all the
traveling as well. But they became they actually became New
Zealand National Ballroom champions through there. Our son, our son
was in all the grades junior, juvenile, youth, adult. But
it was a fabulous and they going through those teenage years,

(01:09:51):
they were so busy dancing that they just went to school.
They were and danced and trained and you didn't have
any time for any mischief going on. So it was
money well invested. I reckon that certainly.

Speaker 17 (01:10:06):
I'm a marcher. I do marching brilliant.

Speaker 20 (01:10:10):
Yeah, so we which is to me, although we do
a lot of fundraising, which is we still have to
fundraise even for the master's grade, but really it's just nothing.
It's as cheap as chips really, so compared to those
dancing days.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
You're great, Allison.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Going back to marching, because marching used to be massive
in New Zealand. Has it still got a big following marchings.
There's still a lot of people involved.

Speaker 20 (01:10:37):
Well, when I used to march as a midget, so
I was back in those days when it was just
hundreds of teams. You would get there at seven o'clock
in the morning and you would just be there all day.
And so the Canterbury is quite a very you know,
it's a big area in the marching. But it's definitely
nothing like it used to be in those back in

(01:10:59):
that era.

Speaker 10 (01:11:00):
But it's still very competitive.

Speaker 20 (01:11:03):
We still train, We train and train our hundreds of
hours for a three minute routine.

Speaker 27 (01:11:08):
But yeah, it's good.

Speaker 20 (01:11:10):
It's rare, it is really good, but it's and that's
that's a relatively cheap, cheap sport. Parents just have to
be be prepared to do fundraising.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
So they have they had a big one and travel away.
They had a big one in Amberley quite recently, didn't they, Alison,
what do they call that? When you get the whole
all the marches together, there is a name for it,
an official name for it.

Speaker 20 (01:11:32):
So there is a leisure which is sort of more
of the older woman, which is huge actually throughout New Zealand.
That is a really they are not competitive where we
have where the competitive grade. But we have our We've
got South Islands coming up in December, and then the
New Zealand Nationals will be held in Number Cargo this
year in March.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I was just thinking about it, and thank you so
much for you call Allison there. Marching it's it's a
very cool sport. It's it's a it's a great spectacle.
I was just think about the other thing about fundraising,
as Allison brings up, is the thing with your kids
are given a Raffle booklet and they don't tell you
about it, and then suddenly on the last day you're
on the on the line to buy all the tickets

(01:12:13):
because you find it at the bottom of their bag
that's got half a rotten apple mixed in it, so
you can't return it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Yeah, yeah, I feel sorry for the when I see
that email from the parents in the workplace and say, hey,
I've got all these Raffle tickets to shift, or do
you want to buy a pie because my kid needs
to go overseas And I buy as many pies as
I can, but always feel sorry because they're hard yacker,
hard yeacker. Sharon. How are you good?

Speaker 18 (01:12:36):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:12:37):
Good, excellent. This is a really cool conversation you're having
about barriers to participation in the sport and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
You're involved in it, are you, Sharon in terms of
trying to make it as easy as possible for kids
to get into sport?

Speaker 18 (01:12:51):
We are, yes. So we're part of a well, we
run a charitable trust out a Northe called Resport and
we're all about repurposing sports gear so that we can
give people a chance and we're all about reducing the
barriers to participations.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Good on you. And how long have you been involved
in this?

Speaker 18 (01:13:12):
Eighteen months?

Speaker 10 (01:13:13):
Yeah, right, so we fairly knew.

Speaker 18 (01:13:15):
But yeah, it's very popular. We we've collected just over
five thousand items in eighteen months and we've distributed back
into the community just over three thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
So good.

Speaker 18 (01:13:28):
Yeah, so it Keith also keeps the gear out of landfill.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Yeah, what a fantastic initiative. And how will people interact
with you? How do people reach out to you to
get the gear off?

Speaker 18 (01:13:38):
You just go to the website. It's resport dot co
dot m Z.

Speaker 15 (01:13:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
I mean that's an absolutely brilliant thing for you to do, Sharon,
So thank you for that. On behalf of.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Society, Resport fantastic charitable trust. So just go to the
website Resport. If you google it you'll find it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
I just want to say I called Zola Blad, Zola
Bud Lolabud aquolities. That was the famous South African runner
wh used to run and barfee right to clarify, that's
got to get those things right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yeah. Oh and one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is
the number to call. It is ten to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Three the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
you for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
You've talked zed B.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
News Talk zed B Morris. How much do you spend
on your kids to get into sport?

Speaker 27 (01:14:30):
Oh, we'll start with the cheapest one. The little boy.
He's in the rugby.

Speaker 28 (01:14:36):
Yeah, right to Legia.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Okay, nice.

Speaker 27 (01:14:38):
He's on the word of making the sacred for the fifteen.

Speaker 9 (01:14:40):
He's only fourteen, so that's a level jack all.

Speaker 27 (01:14:43):
He costs a pair of boots and he played used
to play clicking on summer to get the hand me
down from his older brother.

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
What position, Morris, sorry, jump in there? What position?

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:14:53):
Much more to clothing than the sport tenere eighteen kilos.
Oh boy, yeah, but no sad on him. Just big
and the shoulder bigger in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Well we need that, We need bigg We need big
to mighty Williams type players out there, don't we, So
we can we can combat the bomb squad going forward,
all right.

Speaker 27 (01:15:13):
So he's the cheapest right and the other thing we're
going to do with other good of foot, Yeah, make
the un up and down and he's on the farm.

Speaker 9 (01:15:18):
That's that.

Speaker 27 (01:15:18):
So he's a bargain, just a llegiol. Be a bit
more to get more from right now. The next one
that he plays cricket. When he started he was absolutely
rubbish so but he was desperate to be a play
for his Zellam was his dream. So he's head coaching,
you know, four days a week and now he's sort
of Last year he coached he kept in the North
Harbor under seventeens, you know, in the Aukland competition and

(01:15:39):
all that. So he's gone on really good. He's already
played Premier club cricket at fifteen. He's you know, but
he gets sixty bucks an hour fishon four times a
week and then about four hundred k's before he got
his license with driving around a week for the training
and we can get all the tournaments and all the
add ons. So he was round about twenty twenty five
thousand a year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yeah wow, yeah, even year.

Speaker 27 (01:15:59):
The last three years. But he's a very good cricketer.
Like I said, he made the premiere competition in Auckland.
You know, as a fifteen sixteen year old, you know,
first to live and doesn't like that because it's not
good enough grade. He's on the ridge of Walkland. So
but he's not the nearest one. Oh no, no, little
a little most pcice wants to get a pony. That

(01:16:22):
was the first pony, was the worst pony. That was
only three grand. But then every time you go to
an event on a Saturday, it's one hundred and fifty
bucks on I said, down on a Sunday, plus all
the coping that plussives and you got to feed the ponies.
Now we've got three ponies, so the feedbill is about
two hundred and fifty three hound of a week. Right,
that's all the things, and it's six thick end of

(01:16:42):
sixty thousand dollars. And it gets worse, it gets worse,
because she's really ricky good because here on committed, got
sick of but I'll be happy. And then the petrel
one week with her, we did four hundred and sixty
kilometers and running around him everything.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Fours and you got the horse trailer as well. I
take it more. She had to buy that.

Speaker 27 (01:17:02):
That was twenty five grande. The first pony was three
That was the bargain, and the first horse folk was
was was three and a half grand They were bargains, right,
and then she become very very good and you started
winning stuff in your garden there next you know, it's
bloody near full time. She goes to school, she gets home,
she rides for two hours in the morning before she
goes to school, and then she rides a couple of

(01:17:23):
hours when she gets home at night. Totally committed. So
you can't say no.

Speaker 17 (01:17:27):
Yeah, well, it's just ridiculous costs.

Speaker 27 (01:17:30):
And then the better they become and the more they
put into it, but then it gets worse because you're
competing against people who have got a hundred thousands of ponies.
Need some of these parents, one of them. I'm not
going to mention names or anything. They've got a six
hundred thousand dollars truck. The kid's got about four hundred
thousand dollars worth of ponies.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Wow, get more.

Speaker 27 (01:17:49):
And they clearly don't work on minimum wage. But that's
not the point. You know, we're finding that, you know,
we can run a lot of those costs off, but
the fact is that you still it still cost you
the food, it cost you every single thing you put
into it, and then the mileage you get them around,
then the little the little blazes and order. But there's
one hundred and fifty here, two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
I need another eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Too, Morris. I hope it's money well spent. You sound
like a proud dad, so so good on you, and
thank you so much for calling. What a great chat
it's been this out.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Yeah, thank you very much for your techs and phone
calls after three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, we're so interesting and sad news. She Hard are
breaking up after many many years. Got one last tour
on the road, so we want to talk about the
best concert you've ever seen in New Zealand and Coldplay
up as well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a
number to call. We'll see you on the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Your new home for Insightful and there it's a teening talk.
It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sebby.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Welcome back into the show seven past three. Right over
the next fifty minutes, we want to talk about concerts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Yeah, that's right. So she had a breaking up and
going on the road for one last time. They've been
described as one of New Zealand's best live bands. I've
seen them probably more than any other band, and they
are always an incredibly good time. Absolutely, they know how
to rack up an audience. Johnny two Good is one
of the greatest front men in this country has ever had.
We've also had Coldplay throwing three playing three shows to

(01:19:16):
one hundred and fifty thousand people in New Zealand this
weekend at Eden Park. So we want to talk about
the best live band you have ever seen, the best
Kiwi or international band you have ever seen live because
those live constance you see life changing, Yeah, absolutely life changing.
And there's some that just stand out. There's some you
go along and then you just can't wait till it's over.

Speaker 8 (01:19:37):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
And especially if it's a legacy band that plays a
lot of new stuff that can get to you. But
that's one of the great things. I went to see
Billy Joel recently and he started off the tour o
the show by saying, Hey, I've got some good news
and bad news. You know. The bad news is that
I haven't written a song since ninety ninety one. And
the good news is that you're going to know all

(01:19:58):
the songs as basically like that. Yea, I think he
said that. The good news is I haven't written a
new song since ninety ninety one, so you're going to
know everything. But yeah, best show you have ever seen
of eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'm going to
talk about this and yeah, on the She Had thing,
we're going to talk to Johnny toogod.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Well absolutely speaking as you just mentioned. Sad news for
a lot of fans out there. Band She Had Have
announced they are disbanding after nearly forty years are The
band's website crashed this morning Jude to Demand following their
announcement that is the band will play one final set
of shows before finishing up in Wellington in March twenty
twenty five. On the line is John two Good, lead

(01:20:37):
singer of She Had Good A John.

Speaker 7 (01:20:39):
Good a guys, there are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Very good mate? So why are you guys calling it quits?

Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
Well, for a few reasons, but mainly we've been talking
about this for about a couple of years and it's
just like, for so long we've had this as the
center of our lives and she Had. When you're taking
it seriously, you need to be doing it one hundred
percent of the time all the time. So circumstances have changed.

(01:21:07):
We've got kids, We've all got other things outside of
she Had that we love doing. And you know, when
we get together, we'll always make sure that you know,
we bullets the stage and it's great and I think
the last two she Had records are probably my favorite,
but like five years in between each other, and we

(01:21:28):
used to do a record every two years. You know.
When we were everything was all about she Had. But
we just thought, rather than go out with a whimp,
we'll go out on a high point. And that was
basically the sort of decision we came to over a
couple of years of conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
And we are You mentioned some moments there, John, but
what are some of your greatest memories looking back on
that incredible journey?

Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Well, I mean, there's so many. I mean it's thirty
six years, so I mean there's a lot of you know,
there's a lot of albums, you know, you know, good
and bad and average and being great, and then you
know moments where it all comes into focus. I don't know.
I mean when you think about when I think about
live shows, the Big Day Out was always great for us.

(01:22:14):
I loved the Big Out. I mean, being able to
play in front of that many people, go and see
all the bands you're in love with, then hang out
with Joe's strummer from the Clash back age, and you know,
it's just like those moments are so dear to me,
you know, I mean, and then outside of that, you know,
touring with Black Sabbath. I was a Black Sabbath stand

(01:22:35):
from when I was a kid. And then to have
you know, playing one of my songs then look over
and see Toney Iomi and Geezer Butler standing side of stage,
It's like those things are just unreal to me. You know,
they're just so many amazing moments and I feel really blessed,
nothing really unfortunate been how to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
You know, we're talking to Johnny too Good from she
had now speaking of you know, being a kid and
what you imagine when you look back now and think
about the little Metler who formed a band who went
on to write songs that everyone in the country knows
the words too Home Again and Run Pacifier. Does it
ever strike you the impact? Do you just think and
reflect on it, the impact you've had on the country,
and how does that make you feel?

Speaker 7 (01:23:17):
I mean, I'm all. I mean, I come from Zeon,
so I've got a real My parents are both working
class Londoners, so I've got a real workman sort of
ethic towards it, I mean, and all of us have.
It's like it's a it's a job, you know, and
it's it's an amazing job. It's it's so great that

(01:23:39):
I wake up, you know, every day and go cool
actually get much to make music to pay their rent,
which is great. But we never really spend much time
looking back. It's always about what can we do to
improve the life show, what can we do to make
the record sound as big as we do live. It's
always it's going on that journey, you know. So yeah,

(01:24:02):
I always I'm always in a moment and I'm always
looking at what's next. You know, so that whole beacy
thinks it's sort of external from my experience of the band.
You know. I'm always really with people that come up
and say, hey, you know, I was at the Whaling
Bongo when I was at university and you guys blew
my mind. And that's great because I'm like, you know,

(01:24:25):
that's I really appreciate it when people do come up
and say that sort of stuff. But it's for me.
I'm just thinking about how can I articulate my experience
of the world better in a song. I'm on that journey,
you know, so I don't really think too much about
the legacy of the band or or looking back, you know.

(01:24:46):
And in fact, to the point where when we were
when we got the call that we were being inducted
into the New Zealand Lock and Roll Hall of Fame,
I was flatted, but I was also a little bit like, well,
I'm in the middle of right of the next record?
Am I that old?

Speaker 27 (01:25:00):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
You know, have you thought, Johnny about the last show
you play, what your emotions are going to be when
you throw your hand in the air like you on
stage and say thank you and goodbye. When you say
that for the last time.

Speaker 20 (01:25:12):
Have you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Have you contemplated that that moment.

Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
I haven't got that far yet. I've basically basically gone, okay, right,
what is the work load? How are we going to
make these shows memorable and epic and how much work
is that going to require. I'm just looking at making
sure that each show is amazing. So so I'm sure
it's going to be emotional, but I'm leaving that till

(01:25:37):
the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
You know, well, I'm looking forward to that moment myself.
It'll be sad, but I mentioned it'll be awesome, like
every she Had show I've ever seen has been. Speaking
of live shows, put you on the spot here, what
is the best show you have ever played? And what
is the best show you have ever seen?

Speaker 7 (01:25:54):
It's the best show we'd have played. It's got to
be the supporting ACDC with some spring ye I think
sixty yes. I mean it was like literally a town
of rock fans, so we were in our happy place.
I was so nervous walking out beforehand that my eyeballs
were shaking inside my skull a year.

Speaker 9 (01:26:16):
As soon as I was on.

Speaker 7 (01:26:17):
The stage, it was like I felt like I was
in the center of the universe and it was like
the best feeling of all the time. Got played a
great show, then you know, towel down afterwards, got rid
of the sweat, and then when watched my favorite live
band play ACDC. So that was pretty ep at night
for me.

Speaker 8 (01:26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:26:33):
And as far as seeing bands, man, I haven't seen
so many great bands. I've been really lucky. I think
it would probably be through Ghazi at the Uni Hall,
in the Union Hall at the University in Wellington. Just
the fact that they had three park hands, which is
not a light show at all, and yet it didn't matter.

(01:26:55):
It's like the passion those guys in the sweat that
those guys put out. It just totally changed my life,
you know. Like, so that's probably what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Oh well, thanks so much, Tohnny too good. You're a
great New Zealander. You've so much joy to the country.
Thank you. You will be missed, but you will never
be forgotten.

Speaker 27 (01:27:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Go well for the final tour, John and thanks for
having a chat.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
With us, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
So just the details for the final tour for she Had,
If you go to she had dot com, you can
get all the details all throughout summer and you can
find tickets there. It's going to be a hell of
the final tour get amongst. Right after the break, we're
gonna have a chat about the best concert that you've
been to of all time? Yeah, have you had to
think about what you're gonna put at number one?

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I have, actually, and look, this has been. As Johnny
Toogood said, that's a very very difficult question to answer.
I've been to been to a lot of shows, a
lot of Goat shows, a lot of other shows. But
but I've decided on the one I'm going to say
it is because of the effect it had on me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
What it's the sixteen past three news talks, there'd be
nineteen past three. What is the greatest concert that you've
been to? Are you're going to say it now? Are
you going to wait to the end of the hour?

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
No, I'm going to say mine now. It was when
I went to see The Cure as a young man
and at Wellington Town Hall, and that was the most
phenomenal concert. I believe it was the Wish tour and
I was right up the front and the mosh pert
it got so hot at one point I lost consciousness
and when I came back round again, I was throwing
up on some poor ladies back some poor girls back

(01:28:26):
and trying to apologize. But then I was suddenly meters
and meters away. But apart from that down buzz, it
was an incredible show.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
It sounds it right. How are you mate?

Speaker 10 (01:28:37):
I'm good then, you guys, it's good to hear you
this afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
Every day, it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 21 (01:28:42):
Look I tell you yeah, yeah, yeah, look, I'll tell
you what. I'm a country shipkicker sand basically, but you know, grateful, dead, remnant.
But the two concerts that I've seen that were seamlessly
perfect was Massive Attack the first.

Speaker 29 (01:29:02):
Time they came out here with the measling concept Logan Campbell,
and it was just there's nothing wrong with it. And
I also saw that San Francisco dand the residents who
are pretty weird, but I saw them at the power
station and that was a seamlessly perfect concept. Rough edges

(01:29:23):
nothing and they always stand out, you know.

Speaker 15 (01:29:26):
So I just sort of let you know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Good call. Yeah, love, Massive Attack, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
So much for your cal Rod, appreciate it. The residence.
For some reason, I'm picturing a massive eyeball with it
with a top hat on it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
But I'm not sure why bang on. I just looked
them up and that's exactly it. The old eyeball with
the top hat.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Okay, right, that's all I know about the residence.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
Craig, How are you good?

Speaker 30 (01:29:49):
How's your show going today? Quite good, isn't it? It
would be nice to hear a little bit more of
Tyler and not so much from Mat. I mean, otherwise
he's going to run a material for his next book.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
He's got the yarns, Craig, He's got great stories.

Speaker 9 (01:30:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:30:01):
Yeah, It's like I listened to quite often, and sometimes
you hear you Tyler just about to say something and
overtaken by Matt.

Speaker 30 (01:30:06):
It's like which like the anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
No no, no, no, no, okay, it's not the Matt review.
It's your favorite concert.

Speaker 27 (01:30:16):
Oh no.

Speaker 30 (01:30:16):
They take more than now for that.

Speaker 31 (01:30:18):
As far as the concerts go, I've been quite lucky
over the years working for Sound high companies over the year,
so I've got to go behind the scenes and be
on the other side of the stage. Got to meet
some really good roadies over the years and got their numbers.

Speaker 30 (01:30:32):
I still keep in contact with. But I managed you
see like you two pearl Jim the first time around
you to ac DC and all those bands, and it's
a different story when you're behind the scenes and you're
talking to the artists and not on stage and before
they come on, and you get to hear some interesting
stories about them over the years and all that. But
I think my favorite band will have to be Sound Garden.

(01:30:52):
That guy had an incredible voice and yeah, said what
happened all that? But yeah, it was was that concert?

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Where was that concert?

Speaker 30 (01:31:02):
Great years ago now over in Australia. I think it
was Sydney, going back for years now, but man, there's
some of the high notes that guy wreck. You're sitting
on the silent sitting on the side of the stage
on the with all the other soundticks and all that. Yeah,
and you hit those high notes and you're like you
just your hear's in your back and neck would just
go up, like wow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
I mean an incredible band, but also yeah, his voice
could cut through. The band could be incredibly loud, incredibly distorted, Yeah, phenomenal,
but his voice so powerful that it would cut through
in a sound game concert. It was almost fifty to
fifty with the music and the vocals were incredible. Musician.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
He was when he did that cover of Billy Jean
Michael Jackson. That was a haunting version, but man, it
was good. Craig, thank you very much. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is number to call the best
concert that you've been too love to hear from you.
Nine two ninety two is the text. Number eight is
twenty two plus frow Just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
So we hear from Tyler. To make our last caller happy,
We'll put you on the spot and ask what your
favorite concert you've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Yeah, you're right, Okay, Craig, I love you, mate, but
you're wrong. Matt's got some great yarns and I want
to hear the yarns. And I talk enough on this show.
You don't want you. You talk too much more, Matt
less time I say one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to two twenty three past.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Three Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news Talk said be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
So she had an announced that they're breaking up and
they're going on their final tour, and we've got Coldplay
in the country, and I believe with one hundred and
fifty thousand tickets sold over three concerts is going to
be the biggest tour ever to New Zealand. So we're
asking what is the best concert you have ever seen?
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
And you asked for mine before had a good thing
about it. I haven't been to as many concerts as you,
but Red Hot Chili Peppers when they came to New
Zealand two thousand and seven Vector Arena, and that was
next level for me as a young student. It would
have been about twenty one, weighed about fifty kel. I
was a skinny weekend in that moshpet, and that moshpit
went hard. I mean, Anthony Keaters say what you're all about?

(01:32:58):
The guy, great frontman, and all of them flee. He
was getting into it, racking up the crowd. Not too
many stories being told. But when the crowd started to
die down and the energy got low, the ban just
rah right up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
They do a great thing where the band rock out
when Anthony's off stage and they just jam for like
two or three minutes. He comes on to another hurt,
he goes off. They jam out there. Yeah, they're a
really good live man. I'm sick of hearing them because
I was on Radiohadeche for about four thousand years and
we played them every thirty seconds. But great live man Rose,
how are you?

Speaker 25 (01:33:29):
Greetings lovely people, I am great on this beautiful day.

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
And Gisborne, thank you, no, bless you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
How are you very good?

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
We're interested to hear what your favorite concert was?

Speaker 25 (01:33:39):
Okay, lo I you still live in Wellington and we
went to all the concerts, but the one that I
absolutely adored was Simon and Garfu Man.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I would love to have seen them.

Speaker 25 (01:33:50):
Oh they were just crystal clear, beautiful, just the two
of them. Yeah, and it was a beautiful blue sky
and oh my god, they were amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
The harmonies Rose, the harmonies.

Speaker 25 (01:34:01):
I know, they were just crystal clear. It was fabulous.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
I would have loved to have seen and I'm not
sure if they'll ever play again. They sort of they
sort of had some arguments, those guys who now and
they come back together. But I would have I would
love to have I would love to see those guys.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Yeah, what was your favorite song? Simon and garf Uncle.

Speaker 25 (01:34:19):
Oh, Cricky, oh gosh, all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Yeah, yeah, And it was.

Speaker 25 (01:34:27):
An open concert and they started early and so it
was sort of still daylight when they actually started and
it was kids friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Yeah, yeah, a good Simon and Garth uncle love it. Chris,
how you doing? What was your favorite concert?

Speaker 32 (01:34:44):
I've got two second places.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Okay, which is Midnight Oil.

Speaker 32 (01:34:53):
And Chris Cornell doing a solo one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 32 (01:34:57):
Yeah, but I agree with that last person, Rehtli was
a good.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Concert, last person, Chris.

Speaker 7 (01:35:06):
But my top.

Speaker 32 (01:35:07):
One, which my wife I didn't actually mention, but my
wife just said it, which because we went together, was
the Stereophonics.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Was that at the power station in Auckland?

Speaker 32 (01:35:20):
Nah, Wellington?

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Oh, Wellington. Yeah, I've heard a few people say that that.
I know a few people that went to the concert
in Auckland and said it was phenomenal. That guy's got
great pipes, great Welsh pipes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:35:30):
I mean I was just saying to my wife that
it's the only time because we were really close to
the stage, and it's the only time I've seen someone
singing with X.

Speaker 15 (01:35:41):
You vibrates.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Great description, Chris, Thank you very much. Right say, headlines
coming up, but I went one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number two? Cool love to hear about
your favorite concert? Plenty of texts coming through on nine
two nine two. We'll get to some of those very
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Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Thank you very much. Roylean. It's twenty eight to four oh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
One hundred eighteen eighty. Yeah, your favorite band you've ever
seen in New Zealand. It's constant you ever seen Cold
Player in the country. They are a huge band. The
excitement is brewing in across Auckland tonight for that excitement
brewing for me as well as I'm going we have
in Parksio Nick Sautner on the line. Nick, one hundred
and fifty thousand punters over three concerts. Does this make
it the biggest tour ever to New Zealand?

Speaker 26 (01:37:39):
This will be the biggest tour of New Zealand And
thanking so much for your time. The biggest rock band
on the planet show number one seven three tonight and
as you can imagine, we are pumped. I'm sure if
you ask the question tomorrow people will be saying Cold Played.
Edenpark will be ever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Yes, yeah, I've heard that stat that that Coldplayer the
biggest rock band in the world. At the moment, people
try and push back on that, but if you actually
start looking into it, it actually it actually stacks up.
What can people expect for the gig tonight? What of
the band got planned?

Speaker 26 (01:38:12):
It is an amazing show. It's fortunate enough prior to
signing the artist we went over and saw it in
Perth and the tours started in March twenty twenty two.
Our gates open at five o'clock externally. I've just been
walking externally at Eden Park. There are people purchasing merchandise.
They're killing to get on the GA floor. I just

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encouraging people to get here early. There's three support artists
starting from five point thirty, a huge amount of food
and beverage on offer. We're just looking forward to another
memorable moment at our National Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Yeah, fantastic, So Nick, you'll get to watch this concert
three times right tonight, Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 26 (01:38:52):
Well, given the sky Full of Stars was my wedding
dance and my four year old loves Beautiful, My six
year old love Skyful of Stars. They've already created their
outfits to come long later in the week. But I
talk about we've got a big responsibility here. We've got
three thousand staff working. We want people to come have
a safe and enjoyable experience and walk away with memories

(01:39:16):
that they'll never forget. So yes, I am working tonight,
but I can assure you there'll be a time when
I just reflect and I'm so proud of the team
and what they've been able to achieve. When you look
at the artists that Eden Park has had since obtaining
our Consequences and let's bring on more rock at Eden Park.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Yeah, good on your neck and I imagine there'll be
a lump and throat and a few tears at some
point from the CEO of EDN Bark over the next
few days. Thank you so much. So hundred and eighty
ten eighty the best concert you've ever seen?

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Mike, what do you reckon? A?

Speaker 33 (01:39:49):
Greetings, guys, was great to hear job that interview.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
With John Yeah, are you too good?

Speaker 33 (01:39:57):
I'm a Wellington High School old boy as well, but
a bit older than he was when he went there.
And in nineteen seven two we all hopped on a
train at Warrington Station and went to see led Zeppyron
at Western Springs.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
That is an legendary show. I've seen lots of photos
from that show. It looked increadible and you know, no
one was ever going to get to see that that
band again, obviously because not all the members are around anymore.
But can you describe the show? What was the atmosphere like?
Because back then you didn't have the big screens, you

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didn't have the big.

Speaker 33 (01:40:38):
Big screens. It was it was packed out and of
course kind of the whole train was full of led
zeppyron bands. You can imagine what that was like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Yeah, yeah, party.

Speaker 33 (01:40:53):
Phenomenal, you know. And I think it was the first
time they made to step because Stairway to Heaven had
just come out, and I think it might have been
I could be wrong, the first time they'd done it live.
But like you know, one of those you'll never ever forget.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Yeah, historically, Yeah, can you imagine living in a world
pre Stairway to Heaven. One of the things I really
look forward to with my kids was showing them that,
you know, a New Hope, the first Star Wars movie
and playing them songs like Stairway to Heaven and Beam
and Rhapsody, and it's yeah, you can't imagine a world
that existed before Steirway to heaven, it's so burnt into

(01:41:30):
our consciousness.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
So you think about the bands now and which one
of the bands that are playing today worldwide it would
be seen in that respect. You know, it was a
different era, wasn't it that they were historic concerts?

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
I mean it's it's hard hard to say, isn't it
the ones that that last, that that that length of time?
You know, you need you need thirty forty years for
the bands that have that burn themselves into the concience forever.
Which ones they are going to be? It's hard to say.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Yeah, Steve, you're at that concert as well.

Speaker 23 (01:41:59):
Yes, mate, Yeah, you just took it away from.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Well, no, that's all right, because you're at a different
part of the audience, no doubt. How was it for you?

Speaker 16 (01:42:06):
I was.

Speaker 23 (01:42:07):
I was strundon center on the stage right, I was
right beside the damn speakers. Robert planned almostood on my
damn fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 23 (01:42:17):
Did you did you love?

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Did you have a sense at the time how historic
that concert was and how significantly Zeppelin were going to
be as a band going forward?

Speaker 23 (01:42:27):
I had an inkling, you know, I was only a
young feller, like nineteen. I think about by Craiky. It
was something special, mate, and I've followed Robert ever since.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Yeah, how big were they at the time, Steve? I
imagine they were pretty massive worldwide. But were they had
they kind of taken over the world at that point?

Speaker 23 (01:42:46):
Oh, in my opinion, knew they had their own airplane.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
For Yeah, it's a good sign.

Speaker 23 (01:42:52):
But dippin Partla and you know, written sign, written down sign.
It's just something that we didn't see, we never hear
who knew about you know, Yeah, yeah, there's something special.
It really was, and I'm so glad I was part
of it. And Cashmere and you know, a whole lot
of love and Rocius by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Yeah, one of my favorite tivies a show called Freaks
and Geeks. And in the first episode someone said, I
saw God. I saw God last night and he was
playing drums for led Zeppelin.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Great line, Cherry, how are you?

Speaker 17 (01:43:25):
I'm good?

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
I didn't hear you say it was bands and New
Zealand it doesn't have to be. No, Well, I saw
Elvis Priestley and Madison Wisconsin and you you say, wow,
it was just before he died. I can't say that
it was a wonderful conference as far as his performance,

(01:43:52):
because he couldn't sustain you.

Speaker 34 (01:43:55):
Know, those long notes that his early songs were. He
had a backup crew that took swinging, and he spent
most of the time wiping his brow with silk starves
and heaving them into the audience. It was, you know,
I'm an elder stand from way back, and it was

(01:44:17):
just wonderful being able to see him on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Yeah, even if you weren't seeing him at the peak,
just to be in the same area, the same room
as Elvis Presley as phenomenal and something that you can
hold on to forever.

Speaker 15 (01:44:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Did you get one of those cars, Jerry?

Speaker 34 (01:44:35):
No, I was too far back. And it was quite
a story getting there because the tickets were being sold
on the black market for hundreds of dollars, and I thought,
I was, you know, on a strict teeweed buncket. I
thought I'll never be able to afford it. But I

(01:44:55):
went out to the venue and picked on a sort
of shy looking young guy who had one ticket and
when I after the support act had started twenty it's
into the support had and I managed to buy it
to twenty dollars, which was least in the face price

(01:45:15):
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
So wow, I that is that is so amazing to
have seen Elvis Presley. I mean, that is I can't
even imagine how incredible that would be. Yeah, I mean
one of the most famous people that's ever existed in
one of the most genius artists of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
That's incredible if you could see one band or artist,
alive or dead.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
I am so gutted that I never saw David Bowie.
Like me too, I'm I'm a huge fan and I
don't know how it happened that I didn't see him
when he played in Wellington. Just terrible circumstances and where
I was and just couldn't do it. And the fact
I'll never see David Bowie is just absolutely gutting for me.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.
It is nineteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred even
Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Good afternoon, beised concert you've ever been to, Matthew.

Speaker 17 (01:46:14):
Hi, there.

Speaker 15 (01:46:16):
So my one was in Wellington at the sky Stadium
but it used to be called Westpac Stadium back then.

Speaker 9 (01:46:24):
The Cake Turn.

Speaker 35 (01:46:26):
And in Easter two thousand and eight, they had an
event there, a two day rock event called Rock to Wellington. Yes,
and basically it was over two nights. So you had
Alice Cooper and Kiss on night one, and then on
night two you had Poison White Snake and then Ozzie Osbourne.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
What a lineup? What a lineup?

Speaker 35 (01:46:50):
Yeah, so you had all of that come over here.
And the cool thing is we're a workshop did a
lot of the set and they so they had like
a giant guitar and like skulls and demonic stuff, and
then they actually built.

Speaker 15 (01:47:04):
A giant moving dragon on the opposite end of the
to the stage that shot like green lasers out of
its eyes and had smoke coming out of its out
of its mouth. Wow, while they're all while they're all playing.
So that was that was a honorable mention and I
thought I should meet And that was if you type
and rock to wellington'll you'll find it on there.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
And how did Ozzie go.

Speaker 9 (01:47:28):
That?

Speaker 10 (01:47:29):
Yeah, Ozzie still had a really good voice.

Speaker 35 (01:47:31):
Then yeah, yeah, this is he started to dip probably
like you know, twenty thirteen on, you know, and he
got back with Black Sabbath.

Speaker 15 (01:47:41):
But actually in two thousand and eight. He had a
lot of energy and he was singing really well, and
I was as vocals sounded good.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
I saw Black Sabbath when they were touring New Zealand
a few years ago. I'm not sure exactly sure when
it was. It might have been fourteen, thirteen years ago,
something like that. And I saw Ozzy Osborne in the
interviews and he was basically asleep and not making any sense,
and then when he came out on stage for the show,
he was suspiciously energized.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Yeah, it just goes into that mode.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
He was running around and he was in decent voice,
and I was thinking, is the medication involved in this?
But it was a great show, huge black seventh in me.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Thank you very much. Matthew, Hey you, Lisa, Hey, are
you good? What was your favorite concert?

Speaker 36 (01:48:25):
I've been to a lot of really good Probably the
best one was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Toby teased, Oh yep, the country artist.

Speaker 29 (01:48:33):
Yes.

Speaker 33 (01:48:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 36 (01:48:34):
I was in Nashville and I saw a poster saying
he was doing a show which hadn't done one in
Nashville for years apparently. So I raced down to the
stadium to find out about the tickets. I said, how
much of the ticket and they got oh, they started
twenty five dollars. Okay, then how much is the most
expensive ticket you've got? And she goes, oh, the expensive

(01:48:54):
ones are ninety nine dollars. Yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 37 (01:49:01):
And I was like at the stage, if he'd have
stepped one foot off the stage, he'd have landed on
me drink. The only place I could put it was
on the stage.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
That's too good.

Speaker 16 (01:49:14):
And I just don't believe this was real.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Yeah, and it's specially significant when you're looking back to
artists that have passed away, like Toby Keith. Isn't it
that you saw it was still around?

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
I know.

Speaker 26 (01:49:26):
I was just like, thank goodness I saw the poster.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Yeah, Lisa, great, great story. I mean, seeing anyone in Nashville,
particularly country artists, would be an awesome experience.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
I just realized when I see the Cure in Wellington
was the best concert I've ever seen. I just remember,
speaking of artists, that part of what passed away. When
I saw Prince Life that was also one of the
greatest concerts I've seen. I might change mine.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Yeah, very jealous. Chris, how are you mate?

Speaker 38 (01:49:52):
Had a couple on the Dunet and Rugby head in
last year of high school ninety four because we venue
down in Crawford Street called Chammis, which was pretty notorious.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
I remember it well. There's a lot of concerts there.

Speaker 38 (01:50:04):
It's a beautiful venue, sorts of sweat and lots of woodstock.

Speaker 19 (01:50:08):
Look at just to.

Speaker 38 (01:50:10):
Look back on ninety four we saw supergroof which obviously
we're doing the charts and just a massive experience as
a high school sixth former repeat. You know, we'd gone
long and you know, hold the city, put the leather
jacket on and then trying to look a sitting dynamic.

Speaker 7 (01:50:25):
It was.

Speaker 38 (01:50:26):
It was brilliant. And years later I'm down living in
Blenham and they've done the wine and food up here
two seventeen to eighteen, so so here the coming full
circle and doing a bit of a gig next year
is was wonderful. And the other one that sort of
comes to mind is I've done some summer camps in
the States. In the last summer was outside of Boston
and it was a radio sort of concert gig there

(01:50:47):
that included deaf leopards as a tie one diabetic mate
to here, pour some sugar on me.

Speaker 10 (01:50:52):
It was.

Speaker 38 (01:50:53):
It was a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Hey, do you remember the support act from from that
show at Sammy's Known ninety four?

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Nah, I'll be guessing I do because.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
It was my teenage band cand Eternity.

Speaker 20 (01:51:05):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
I supported them at that show at sam Far Understanding. Yeah, yeah,
so it's great to know that we did. It's great
to know that we made no impression.

Speaker 23 (01:51:17):
Did you get a plug in the ODT?

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
We did?

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Actually, yeah, yeah, we've got our picture in the ODT.
Pretty excited about that and had a great night out
with Super Grove. They were big stars back then. Yeah,
I bet, and I had the tramp on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Was that your first big gigh?

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
No, we supported Fugazi as well Sammy's as well.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
You've lived a life, man, Andy. How are you?

Speaker 28 (01:51:38):
Hey, guys, you're going good.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
What's your favorite concert that you've been to?

Speaker 28 (01:51:42):
Yeah, I think you mentioned. I think, well, there's two
first three with Dovid Bowi in eighty three. That was
the one of the best concerts I've ever met. And
I think maybe maybe wrong on this, but I think
it was the biggest biggest concert Walkland's ever had. I
think it was seventy odd seventy five thousand people at
Wichter Springs.

Speaker 9 (01:51:58):
That was just a ten wow.

Speaker 28 (01:52:01):
And the problem back in those days is no cell phones, right,
So I actually I weaent for with about five mates.
I lost them, so I didn't end up seeing him
for rest for the rest of the concert. So I
basically sat there on my own watching with David Dowie
for about two or three hours where it was, and
then found the back at the house later. So it
was an amazing, amazing concert. But yeah, seventy five thousand

(01:52:21):
people were just huge.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Was that was that the Glass Spider Tour or was
that the Glass was later? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:52:30):
Yeah, that was later than this was.

Speaker 28 (01:52:32):
I just I can't remember the name of the concert
the tour, but Serious.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Moonlight, Yeah right, yeah, Serious Moonlight. I'm so jealous. I
would so love to have seen David Bwie life. I
can't believe it never happened for me, and of course
it will never happen now.

Speaker 28 (01:52:46):
Yeah, that was that was pretty good.

Speaker 10 (01:52:49):
What was on the Michael Jackson wasn't too bad?

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
You've seen Michael Jixon as well? Far out Just sorry
beg to Bowie. What was on the seatlist at that time?
I mean what rebel rebel life on Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Well you just said you would have had the dance album.

Speaker 28 (01:53:03):
Yeah, the Legs Darts album was was key one, but
he played all his originals because he hadn't been over
since I think the early seventy. So it was like
all these great bands, they always play their top songs anyway, Yeah,
and then they play their their album they're promoting basically
to it. So yeah, it was that was a pretty
good concept back then.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Thank you so much for your call. Andy. Jealous of that.
I've got to say, so many texts coming through for
the Eagles, and this text I would love to talk
to them, but we don't have time. Best concert ever.
This person saw the Beatles at the town hall in
Auckland in the nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Oh I get out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
So I've had someone that's seen Elvis Presley and someone
that's seen the Beatles contact us today. I mean, that's phenomenal.
People that's seen led Zeppelin. Jealous of all those people.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
That's fantastic, great chat right coming up, we're going to
wrap it all up. It is nine minutes to four.
You're listening to Matt and Tyner. Very very good afternoon
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
It is six to four. As we know, Coldplay their
first concert at Eden Park tonight, fifty thousand tonight, another
one hundred thousand on Friday and Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Yeah, and you and me are going along together, aren't we, Tyler.
So we're excited. So we have the official Matt and
Tyler Zibi Afternoons Top five Coldplay Songs of all Time
at number five Paradise twenty eleven, the Marsa Loto album
Une Rat Tune, Hands in the Air and number four

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from the two thousand and three A Rush of Blood
to the head.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Clocks listens to that piano.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Oh Yes, and from two thousand and five from the
X and Y album Speed of Sound at number two
from two thousand and five the same album Fix You Deers,
this song we'll be sing along to this one, and

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our number one Coldplay song of all time. Have a
great time tonight if you go along. Viva le Vida
from two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Absolute true. I'm getting Goosey's.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Thanks so much for listening on my way tomorrow speaking
at the Air Force's Good Time.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
Yeah, there'll be a great event, so enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
But it'll be a great show with Tyler and have
a good time with You're going to cople or not.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Give them my taste the keyway, sweep the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
I too, I too, fel the enemy says, listens the

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crowd Lord the Old King's dad. London stood it and
I stared my.

Speaker 7 (01:56:13):
Star.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
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