Full Show Podcast: 14 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Mattin
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Started off, well, we have the numbers there, but I know.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
For a fact it's Valentine's Day, February, the fourteenth of
fourteenth of twenty twenty five. I've lost my mind. It
is the fourteenth of February and this is their podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
And there was a lot of love on the show today.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
A lot of love, a lot of Valentine's Day, a
lot of a lot of chat about bloody something I
can't remember. Festivals, festivals. Yeah, it all got was fired up.
So I think it was actually one of our best
radio shows we've ever done. So it was follow sit
to download, subscribe, etc. And have a great Valentine's Day
and a great weekend and give the taste Kiwi. All

(01:05):
right then, okay, bye, talking.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
With you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
Zb, good after noon, Welcome into the show. Six past
one Friday. Always feel God on a Friday, particularly a
Valentine's Day Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, happy Valentine's Days, mate, Yeah, for everyone, the entire
nation lost thing now is my Valentine. I love you all.
You're lucky people. But I didn't get your mimoss for
breakfast my partner.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, genuine, genuine folks. It was mimosa and a lovely
bouquet flowers for your partner.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
First thing in the morning. A few mimosas is an
interesting way to start the day. So you wake up,
first thing, you have some chocolates, give some flowers, and
start drinking champagne. Yeah, sort of sets you off in
quite a weird that the world seems kind of like
a fantasy, Lamb.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I don't think i'd see you today, he starting off
the morning. Well, and that's him for the Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
But Colostia to cocktail bar, cocktail sort of cocktail cabinet
in here, well on a Friday at three thirty. Perfect
we used to have. We used to have the drinks
trolley that the wheel in. Is there any work out
there that has a drinks trolley still? Because the drinks
trolley is the greatest thing in the world. Takes. It's
a great way to meet everyone in your workplace if
you live in a big company.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
And they spread the job around, didn't they, So you
had your opportunity to be the person's take around.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
The drink trolley was great. Yeah, And when you're operating
the drink strolly, you can drink and drive with the
drinks trolley. Yeah. So you're refreshing yourself right around the company,
meeting people, people having drinks at their desk. Oh, there's
a bit of time. Yeah, there's a enough job. Now
everyone's freaked out about that kind of stuff exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right on to today's show. After three o'clock, deep seat.
You would have heard about this Chinese ai very controversial, controversial,
but now someone has used it to roast little old
New Zealand, and some of the roasts are pretty good actually.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And New Zealand's idea of night life is a kebab
shop that closes at nine point thirty pm and a
drunk nineteen year old fighting a road sign and very good.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Every major city in New Zealand is just a glorified town,
except Auckland, which is a glorified traffic jam.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
That stings, that hurts. This AI has got our number,
hasn't it. It's New Zealand. It's proof that if you
put enough sheep and overpriced housing in one place, people
will actually convince themselves. That's a utopia deep seek. That
is pretty hurtful each that's from our AI over lords.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
But we want to turn it around and we want
to actually boost up New Zealand. You know some platitudes.
What do we do so well here in New Zealand
that you know what's.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The opposite of a roast? Yeah, the celebration. Yeah, celebration,
don't they Yeah, people get to get yeah, celebration.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
And we've already had a few suggestions for on nine two,
nine to two, but that's going to be the question
after three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And also an awards ceremony, an awards ceremony. Well, coincidentally,
I won an award last night. It did the first
annual Changese I saw you fell asleep with it. Yeah,
I sleep with that last night. I'm so proud of
winning a thought its like an Oscar who is fantastic.
But yeah, we'll have an awards ceremony for New Zealand
where you can, you can say what what's great about
New Zealand Because we're running it down a lot at
the moment, aren't we. We certainly are.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
We need some positive positivity and love.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
We've got to do time. I got to do better
than it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, that's right after two o'clock. Are we going too
far and cracking down on booze at events? Festival organizers
certainly think so. They have felt quite put upon by
police in recent years who are effectively saying to them
we don't want you to serve booths at festivals.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, they're doing everything they can to make it hard,
and festivals need to sell booths to make money. And
people that go to festivals want to have a few drinks.
That's how you get up and dance to the bands.
You need a bit of social lubrication. And as I
was saying to you before, Tyler, I was at a
festival recently and they made me take my sunglasses off
to buy a drink. It's like, don't tell me to
take my sunglasses off to buy a drink. Mate. That

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is patronizing that you're treating New Zealanders like babies. So
if someone gets drunk and starts acting like an idiot.
Throw them out. But until that point, leave them arone
and let them buy what they want to buy and
get on with your life. And let's let people that
run festivals and do good things in our communities have
an opportunity to run them how they see fit and
make some money. Yeah, because otherwise nothing happens if we

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just lack a stupid role upon stupid role upon stupid rule.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Nicely said that as I started, Well, that is after
two o'clock. Back right now, let's talk about four year
terms for our government. It is back on the agenda.
David Seymour he had a speech to the Auckland Chamber
of Commerce in which he mentioned the four year political
term a bill that will be introduced to Parliament very shortly.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Here's a little bit of what he said to journalists
after that.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
Well, the government's bills on a coalition commitment to introduce
a bill within eighteen months of forming. So that's going
to happen in the next few months. There will be
a bill introduced and then whether or not it goes
all the way through to referendum will be subjects to
more debate.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
So I mean that is pretty definitive that their bill,
according to David Seymour, who will be the Deputy Prime
Minister very soon, will go through part elament. Then we
need to have that further debate about a referendum, binding
referendum and whether we go to a four year term.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah. Well, so we've had referendums in the past. In
nineteen sixty seven, sixty eight percent of people rejected a
four year term, and in nineteen ninety sixty nine percent
of people rejected. But there is a feeling now that
people can see that we need a four year term
because as everyone says, yeah, one year getting used to
your position, one year doing what you wanted to do,

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and then one year campaigning. And so as a result
we have everything short sighted, nothing gets done and where
people just you know, politicians just rise at writing whatever
the news cycle is, to stay popular, to get re
elected four years, what about five years? Five years has
got as your five years?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Is there many other countries that would extend it to
five years. I mean that's a fair point if we
I think many people would agree three years is too
short in New Zealand and it is probably time that
we relook at it. If you disagree with that, I'd
love to hear from you on Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty five years is quite a substantial amount
of time. I don't think i'd be comfortable with five
because if there is a government in place that is

(07:17):
stuffing things up, and the tide has turned against that
government in the first three or four years, then you're
stuck with them for another twelve months.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So the UK is five years, I believe, I'll just
check that off the top of my head. I think
that they're five years and that does seem like a
long time. And I also want to throw something else
in the mix here when we're talking about it, because
I think we get rid of MMP. I know there's
not a strong tide to put that forward, and I
don't act wouldn't support that because they're in due to MMP.

(07:44):
But I think it's a rubbish system. I reckon, let's
go back to first pass the post.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
It is not working as well as it should be working. Absolutely,
But just as.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
All we ever hear about is the most extreme parties
and the most extreme voices from people that don't actually
have to have opinions across the whole government people don't
have to have sane, sage opinions to seem like they
could form a good government just here and all the
media is it's just the far ends yapping at each other. Yep.
So call first past the post. Yeah, so that's another question.

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It might be hard to get people across the line
on that one.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty do we need a
four year term for our governments? And the supplementary question
from Matt is a time to go back to first
passing the posts. Love to hear from you. N nine
to two is the text number. It is fourteen past one, the.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
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Speaker 7 (08:43):
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Speaker 3 (08:45):
Sixteen pass one and boy oh boy, has this one
kicked off? So the idea of a four year term
in parliament, it appears likely that a bill will go
through Parliament from the act Party and whether or not
we go as far as a referendum is yet to
be decided. But a lot of texts and phone calls
coming through on this one. Nine nine till is the
text number. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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the number to call? Do you agree when need to
go to a four year term? Currently obviously we're on
a three year term.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well this is this is a common text that's coming
through four years of national yay, four years of just
send to know. So really, if you've got to think
more than that, then the government that you want, right so,
because of course if it's the government you don't want,
you want them out quicker, yeah, but you but if
you yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, I'm just trying to think of some policy that
would have got over the line if we had a
four year term, and I get a lot of people
were very upset about labor and fair enough to but
one policy that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Came to mind that would have got over the line
was the theories.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
So if we had a four year term and Label
was still in it, yes, maybe things would have been worse,
but we might have had some theories across the lane.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I never had the money for those theories. They were
pine in the sky theories. Imagine. You can imagine anything
you want, You can describe things. For them is a
lot harder. But anyway, that's not what we're talking about
all right, four year terms.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Pete, your thoughts
on this?

Speaker 8 (10:08):
There you go, and we're going to get the Ministry
of Health and check out the water or something because
I think there's causing dementia. I think something something, something
in the water, because people must have short memories the
last government another Yeah, we we'd be being bugget I
think three years is fine. Live the way it is
that they perform, well, we just roll them over three

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terms four years. But David Seymour, he's got his own
political agenda. Of course, once again with you, he's trying
to do a lot of things, and I think there
trying to privatize the public hospitals and that we don't
want about either. So some city stuff gown on right
now in the country and in Barazonas then I'm definitely
going I want to sick this in the three terms three.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
What do you say about that's, Pete, that you know,
it's a nice idea that you have three years and
then if you if they're doing well, you give them
another three years. But but what say you know they're
not actually doing anything the three years because they're so
focused on telling the people what they want to hear
to get real elected, that they only do about a

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year's worth of work once they've worked out what they
want to do once they once they get in. So
we're actually getting short sighted governments that don't actually do anything.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Yes, but then again, I think what's happened is the
National Round now is crossing them there. Their polls are
going down with the fairies, and then how they've stopped that.
They want to promote progression and motivation and all that,
and Chris Luxon's saying that by pulling the pin on
those theories was a dumb thing to do. That was motivation.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
This is off topic though people about the fairies. I
disagree with you totally on that, but that's that's so
if the last government had been in, Tyler says, we
would have got those theories. Hang on, I don't want
talk about the feries.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, we've got to think about policies that you could
if you had an extra year up your sleeve as
a government, could you get more done? As the base
question without focusing on specific policies. And I brought up
theories to be honest, Pete, but that takes it away
from from what we're discussing here a little bit, but
on your argument, and could you not say one, why
not two years? And if they do well in those
two years, then they get another two years.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Now you're just going to realize, I said before, where
if we had another year of labor, this country would
have been buggered. So we don't want to go down
that track ever. Ever again, three years is fine, just
rolling over the perform Well, we're given them, they're going down,
putting the polls, all the poles I want poles now
as far to you ignore the poles now the labor
polls and he has only glad their own trumpet prasent

(12:38):
last pole goes, don't ignore that totally. If the date's
started performing the next to the next eighteen months, the same,
all these things that a lot of people now that
now they're just fire people. There's a dictation ship going. Well,
if you're going to have experience it, we'll just can't
get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, great, thanks for your opinion. Pizza is no, no, no,
three years is enough.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I mean it goes back to your point. That just
feels a bit of trouble. Right then, he was worried
about labor even another year, but there'd be people worried
about any government having another year or maybe not.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I mean I think I think it'd be very
controversial of a government seed right now we're going to
extend our own term. Yeah, so yeah, you have to
look at it in terms of just that being the
future going forward, and you know, you hope that you're
the government that you agree with has the best the
best sales pitch to get in for that. Four years absolutely.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Is a four year government term better a better option
than three years that we currently have? When is that
the right numbers? Should we extend it out till five
like the UK does?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah? How should we get a benevolent dictator that gets
that gets an aimless term so we can have fifty
year plans? Yeah? Yeah, And questions supplementary question should we
get rid of MP.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call? It is twenty one past one.

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Speaker 3 (14:41):
Twenty four past one. We're talking about the idea of
a four year parliamentary term. Good idea or not?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Sam? Your thoughts on this?

Speaker 11 (14:50):
Okay, guys, Yeah, it has to a four year term? Well,
I be talking about would have been a nightmare of
just under it had two four year terms. I think
probably she would have been voted out after the first
four year terms and we would have only had four
instead of.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Six years with theotentially, Yeah, yeah, because I think the
cracks are definitely started to show a bit more of
four years.

Speaker 11 (15:16):
Conversely, conversely, you know, they can get more done in
four years. But these guys throwing at the moment, I've
got a fear.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh Sam, you're still there. We've lost Sam. Oh sorry Sam, Johnny,
can you say that point again? You just you just
dipped out for a second what you're saying.

Speaker 11 (15:32):
So, yeah, I think these guys right now probably really
what they're trying to do is just get re elected
so they can have another three year term where they
can really do a bit more. Yeah, you know, you
can set a bit of groundwork for that first three
years and then you know, you rip into it for
the next three years. But yeah, four year term you

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get a lot more tune. You can sort of make
the difference.

Speaker 12 (15:55):
And then yeah, if you get in, if you get
them again, you can really really keep going.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
So genuine question, would we have to change the term
of local body election as well, because it kind of
sits quite nicely right that you have the general election
then in eighteen months you have the local body, then
eighteen months you're back to the general. So would you
have to change local body to four years as well?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Think you probably?

Speaker 11 (16:20):
I think you've got more challenge to get people adged.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, that's why I asked, because you look at local
body now and am my, oh my, I mean Wellington.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, when was the last time we only had a
one term government? And that's the question because what we
generally get here is six It's kind of to further
what you're saying, Sam, we get six term government six
of your governments, because three years isn't normally enough time
for people to change their opinion around why they voted

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a previous government out. Although you know, the news cyclers
are rotating so quickly now, three years might seem like
a lot longer in politics than it used to. People
seem to have shorter memories than they ever had before.

Speaker 11 (17:03):
But yeah, but I suppose people don't have enough time
to get disenfranchised for the party two, which is I
think probably what we saw the last Labor government. You know,
they got re elected at three years and year COVID
probably had a lot to do with it. But if
that sort of had another year in power, I think

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that's when the tide has turned, and they would.

Speaker 13 (17:27):
Have been pointed out.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I wonder if we should just go six year terms,
because that's what we tend to get. We either get
two or three term governments. Just go six years. You've
got six years to get it done and if you don't,
then you're out. But that's your shot. That's your shot.

Speaker 11 (17:43):
Yeah, there's an argument is to go to the Chinese
and don't worry about.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, the ideal if we're Sam, if we could find
a benevolent dictator, like just super smart person that we
all trust, that doesn't get corrupted by power, and so
we could have fifty year plans, then that would be
a good thing. The only the only problem is these
dictators they don't they tend to go crazy. Pretty good
they turn.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean they get stuff done, no doubt about it,
but they start to turn pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Get a bit Jijingping on it, you know, they get
a bit Caligula on it.

Speaker 11 (18:14):
It's unfortunately, democracy the best of the worst case.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah. Well, I think if you call Sam, appreciate it.
You have a great day and a great weekend.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
You asked a question before how many one term governments
have we had in our history here in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
So we've had two, right when were they?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
So it was the second Labor government led by Walton
Nash nineteen fifty seven to nineteen.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Sixty, humiliating Nash yep.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
And the second one was the third Labor government led
by Norman Kirk and Bill Rowlan nineteen.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Seventy two to seventy four. That's interesting. So we've essentially
had six or nine year governments. Yeah, in our whole history.
Apart from those, we tend to give people the chants,
don't we to go again? I mean, the Poles aren't
going swillingly at the moment for the coalition, but you know,
as the economy gets better, you can seem likely to

(19:10):
me that they'll get back in.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think we're a fear lot though, and maybe I'm
starting to change my mind about this four year term
that as a country we seem to give the governments
a shot that hate three year the first term might
not have gone so well, but we'll give you the
benefit of the doubt for another go.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, so effectively that success. But it still comes back
to the situation now where a covent government is going
to start campaigning to get re elected now and not
necessarily doing that making the hard decisions that are unpopular
that need to be made that pay off in the
long term. So you know, within about six months now
the government will go into full re election mode. They

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will which wasn't enough time and work mode.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
And arguably some of the little guys have already started.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call headlines with Raylene coming up.

Speaker 14 (19:58):
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the Health ENZ CEO and the Public Health Director A

(20:20):
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to Dunedin to Divert to Wellington, where she was removed.
Agleader David Seymour says the government still committed to New Zealand,
exploring a four year parliamentary term is promised on the
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(21:04):
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Speaker 2 (21:13):
New figures.

Speaker 14 (21:14):
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Back to Matt Eith and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about
the idea of a four year parliamentary term. David Seymour,
on the back of a speech to the Auckland Chamber
of Commerce, said that there will be a bill introduced
to Parliament very shortly on a four year political term.
Where it goes from there is still up for debates.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, yeah, so that the aim would be to have
a binding referendum I'm assuming in the next selection.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if we need a referendum,
you reckon just go for it. I reckon that if
the parties, if they can get a majority on that
bill and all decide that that is a good thing,
they might put it out for submissions to the general public.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I could be wrong on this, So I think things
like this. Constitutional changes like this do require a referendum.
I think you'll change that. You want to get a
Trumpeton here, they're just signs, big steake menus and holds
them up right. O one hundred eighty ten eighty is
a four year term? Sensible?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Is that the right amount? I mean, do we even
need to look at what they do in the UK
have a five year term? O hundred eighty ten eighty's
the number?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Call Tim, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on this.

Speaker 15 (22:30):
Yeah, we had our own trump because that was Sir
Robert Muldoon. But I'm all for the four year term
with a big caveat. We have a three year term
because in nineteen fifty five we did away with the
Upper House of Parliament. Now if we bring back the
upper House of Parliament, I'll be all for the four

(22:54):
year term.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Can you explain how can you explain how the upper
House of Parliament works him.

Speaker 15 (23:01):
You'd have to talk to a constitutional lawyer about that.
But even Jeffrey Palmer, our former Prime minister, he described
MW Zealand's parliament as the wild West of parliament in
the Western world because there isn't the chicks and dances.
Young have to look at sender House to force through
the firearms changes just overnight. You know, that sort of

(23:25):
thing should have gone through and upper hose to Parliament.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And so effectively, so you carry on to the room.

Speaker 15 (23:34):
Is still there in the Parliament building. I've been in
the Upper House of Parliament. It's still there and it's
used for the King's Speech and on things like that.
It's all there. We just have to bring it ooken
some people and bring it back. And that's what we
need is up at another and yeah, so it was called.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
The it was called the Legislative Council. The Leigiers of
Council was part of New Zealand's parliament for almost one
hundred years. The Legiers of Council was the upper house
of New zealand parliament until nine to fifty one. It
was modeled on the British House of Lords, unlike the
elected House of Representatives, Council members were appointed, so then
every law has to go through them, and you get
that kind of situation we have in the States. Yeah,

(24:18):
where you've got the Congress and the House of Representatives
and you know, or the House of Lords in the UK.
But that doesn't that just stop anything happening.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, and if that's appointed by the Governor General. I
don't know how I feel about that. I mean, effectively, Yeah,
you've got a House of Lords, so that is appointed
by the Governor General, who was appointed by the King
of England.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
The more I think about the upper House. Hear what
you're saying, Tim, But I think we've got it pretty
well now.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Sure, in your thoughts, three years.

Speaker 16 (24:51):
And no more, no less. Two's not enough and four
is too much. And the idea has been bandied around
many many years ago, rejected and you neglect the collective
wisdom of the electorate, that your peril. There's no argument.
It's just it's just a no goer.

Speaker 14 (25:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I mean, but you would be taking as a referendum,
so you wouldn't be ignoring the electorate, would you. You'd
be finding out from them whether they want a four
year term. But you're quite right. It was rejected in
nineteen sixty seven, I believe. Yeah, sixty eight percent of
voters rejected a four year term in a referendum in
ninety sixty seven and again in nineteen ninety by sixty
nine percent. Do you think, Sean, it would be popular.

(25:37):
You don't like the idea of it, but do you
think it would go through if it was put to referendum?

Speaker 7 (25:41):
Now?

Speaker 17 (25:42):
Nope.

Speaker 16 (25:45):
I'm ninety years old and I've seen quite a bit
of coming and going and I'm quite happy with what
we've got. It works, and if something's working, you don't
fix it.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
So, Sean, you would have voted in the nineteen sixty
seven and nineteen sixty nine referendum, so I assume you
voted no back then if you can remember.

Speaker 16 (26:08):
I can't remember what I did, but I don't think
that I would have voted for it.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
If it does go to a referendum, Sean, and it
goes to the public and we or New Zealand decide
that we do go to a four year term, you will.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Just accept that. Well, you'll have to accept that. But
do you think he's going to hit the streets. Well
you're going to protest that.

Speaker 16 (26:27):
Sure, No, I'm not a protester, but I am quite
good at putting my idea forward ware of it gains
fertile ground.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, well, good on you, Sean. Thank you for your call.
You're a sprightly ninety year old. I'll give you that, Sean.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
A quick couple of texts here, guys, the idea of
a four year term seemed logical until the Durn Labor
government who brought in a lot of policies that caused
a lot of damage.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's from Sarah. Yeah, although someone you know, I can't
remember who was called before. Sorry, I had a big
night last night at the Changey's where I won an award.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well deserved. Congratulations by the way.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I just thought of bring that up. But potentially a
government doesn't get again, what we generally get is a
minimum of six years. Only twice in their entire history,
as you're saying before, Tyler, have we had three year
a one term government. So generally you get six years.
So there would be a potential that that Labor government
would have only been in there for four because things

(27:27):
were going off the boil, and the one year into
their second term. Yep, this is an interesting idea. Guys.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
How about four years? But if you get re elected,
your subsequent term is only three years before the next
election from Blake.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Okay, that's an idea, but why what would that be
It's kind of a punishment for doing well.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It should be the other way that it's three years
and if you do well this four years?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Is that just because you don't want people being in
there for eight years? That that's an interesting one. And
then your third term would that be two years?

Speaker 18 (27:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
What happens if you get you get four years and
if you do the next terms ten years because because
they get a bit complicated, because you've proven yourself over
four years that you're doing a great job, so then
you've earned yourself right for ten years old.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I like the idea of a reward. Maybe he give
them two years and then if they do well, give
them four years. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to go, Peter, four year terms?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You into it well.

Speaker 19 (28:20):
Next Smith before he was need of a Young Nationals
meeting before the nineteen eighty four election where Label won.
Bob Jones was going to address the meeting, but because
he started the New Zealand Party. I think Philip Burdhon,
former MP, may have canceled his invitation. So and the

(28:41):
talk of all these young like next Smith, Oh no,
labor are going to get in next time and we
don't want it, you know. So you know we can't
agree at the moment. And it's the same Neil all round,
isn't it. People really need to understand economics because whatever

(29:02):
party you gave for already doesn't change much. JST hasn't
gone down despite the opposition at the time. Oh no,
it's outrage, it's going up. And just like National said
it was an outrage introducing it still happened. And you
know Michael Hudson, he's an economs and said, you know,
deck gets written off. You know, so many people just
don't understand. You know, the banks create the money from

(29:24):
nowhere and it's user plays with donations and the speech
is how much money you have. And if you're a
party in Parliament you get more speech than if you're
someone who's not in parliament, and it's quite hard to
challenge in it. So I think we need single transferable
vote so you can decide, you know, whether they put

(29:45):
the party pet up or not you can vote for
someone else. That's that's the real issue is who you
were voting for.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
So you're more sorry to jump in there, Peter, you're
more talking about Matt's wants of bringing back Foost pass
the post rather than the four year parliamentary term.

Speaker 19 (30:04):
Well, I'll be happy for single transferable vote.

Speaker 20 (30:06):
But because of.

Speaker 19 (30:07):
The idea that New Zealand doers rely on royal commissions
that say m MP was the one to go, and
Jim Bolder said, well, if you choose m MP, we're
going to get give you twenty more MPs. So people
did what you know, politicians tell them not to do
something that's a guarantee for kiwis, they'll do it. And
it's just like David Singore saying, oh vote for a

(30:28):
four year term.

Speaker 13 (30:28):
Will they wait?

Speaker 19 (30:31):
It's the same deal, but single transferable vote means and
some elseils have it. You ranked the person you want
in order in number, whereas first past the post. You
might have two good candidates and if the other one
is on the list and gets in, that's good, but
if not, you know, it's an opportunity loss. I like

(30:51):
the free market, you know, competition at election, trying to
choose the best candidate regardless.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Of colors, so single faster a vote. It's a multi
winner electrical electoral electoral system in which each voter casts
a single vote in the form of a ranked ballot.
Voters have the option to rank candidates and their vote
may be transferred according to alternative preferences if their preferred
candidate is eliminated or elected with surplus votes, so that
their vote is used to elect someone they prefer over

(31:20):
others in the running.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
They still do it in some of the local body elections.
I think for the health board down in Christs.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Is still health boards.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, no more health No more health boards.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
What was it all health boards that had STV or
was it just specific.

Speaker 11 (31:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (31:36):
So yeah, no. Things are getting worse economically speaking, and
I thought a lot of the voting age to five
to make up for the people in the rest home
whose votes may be collected. Because I remember when Ross Perro,
Bill Clinton and I can't remember who the Republican candidate,
they went to it kindergarten and then ask them who

(31:58):
they are going to vote for, and they got the
same MANswers that they get anywhere else. I thought that
was quite good, but At the end of the day,
money rules us. Regardless at which party you vote for,
they decide how much money to take or how much
money to give you, or how much money to spend.
It's all about the budget that that's really and the
laws and regardless of what flavor it is, that's still there.

(32:22):
And Michael Hudson said, you know, in ancient times, I
used to write off the debt, and Obama saved the
bankers over saving the householders who got the debt and
couldn't pay it to keep their house and alleging fortunately
loan situation. So that really the politicians are bought and
paid for with respect to donations and lobbying and propaganda

(32:48):
through whatever, you know. Education system you get doesn't really
teach you about the money system.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, well, thank you for you call Peter.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
So he give a lot of threads there that Peter
was discussing. I mean they just go back to the
voting system.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Unpacked that for a minute.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, the voting system so STV. Honestly, when we had
health boards, I know it was single transferable vote.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Are people onto it enough to deal with that kind
of system? I mean you've got to get obviously, like
in my opinion, MP's the worst, absolute worst. Bring back
first past the post yep.

Speaker 21 (33:18):
But you want a clear winer well, just because back then,
if you were say a you know you, you were
your MP for your electric you fought for your electorate
and you might argue within your party for something that's
really important for the place you are from.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
So you'd go to your constituents, you talk to them,
and you'd come to apartment. With first past the post,
it's like you're just going up against the leaders. Everyone's
in line within the party and you just have Labor National.
They have their line. You don't have the guy that's
trekking up from from South to Needin to tell you
what the people from South to need and need.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I like the idea that things get done if it's
first past the post and you've only got one party
in government, then things get done.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
But I don't know. I'll ever think about that and
come back with some more thoughts.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
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Speaker 4 (34:05):
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Speaker 1 (34:08):
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Speaker 2 (34:17):
We're talking four year terms because ACT are going to
introduce a bill to discuss whether we should have four
year terms, a binding referendum for four years terms and
the next election. Your thoughts on this, Ben.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Well, first water, first time I've agreed with Act. Four
years is not enough. You look at China, they got
this four hundred year plan going on and playing.

Speaker 22 (34:50):
But look we seem to do.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's right, four hundred years.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
I mean that is a hell of a long parliamentary term,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
That is that is you know, we could take over
the world, you know, and look we don't because we
get a government and they have these pans, I don't
quite get there. And then then comes the next government
and undose those plans and tries to get implement their plans,
and then they don't quite get there. And this is
just going on ever since. Well you get first start

(35:22):
supposed you can't have three kings in one castle. Yeah,
and when my father in law comes over, you know,
it's just nuts, uh, And that's yeah, we get nowhere
doing that, but it needs to be longer.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I mean the idea, in the ideal world, you'd have
the perfect government of people that were smart, had a
good plan and weren't corrupt and weren't going to let
the power go to the head and don't start imprisoning
people and be hitting people. But it tends to go
that way, and you can see that in China now
with the Xijingping there's some pretty paranoid decisions getting made now.

(35:58):
It's it's interesting though. You look at Singapore with the
junta over there. They seem to make really good decisions.
But boy, but you don't want to drop it. You
don't want to you don't want to drop your gum
on the pavement. You don't want to break a law
in Singapore. But they seem to be They seem to
run their infrastructure very well.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
They get held up as yeah, thank.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
You very much, thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
And that is a fair argument that there's these big
things and.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
The caller gets sick of us talking to him and leave.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries Ben. But yeah, the argument
that we don't get things done here because we've got
a short parliamentary term, so policy is put in place
and then somebody else gets elected and pushes that down.
But that's what referendums are for, right. If there's a
big decision, that's the can's been kicked down the road.
That is what a referendum should be for that you
put it out to the general population. Hey, do we

(36:47):
want to extend the age of retirement? Do we want
to extend it to a four year parliamentary term? Those
are big decisions that where as a country should be
making by a referendum.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I mean, I'm annoyed at the m MP referendum because
my big sister talked me into voting for m MP.
I didn't even know what it was, what it was
back then, and so I've got that sitting in my
I hate him MP. I think it's a terrible system.
And that's sitting because there was just a wave for it,
wasn't there. Well, what happened was we thought if a
first place of the post, what was happening was governments
which had a less of the popular vote were getting

(37:20):
in power due to you know, the numbers and different
electorates and such. So we thought MP would be a great,
great move.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
And wasn't the question not really fit for purpose? It
was effectively, do you want to change MMP to lower
the three shold to four percent?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Or something? Wrong? Those lines? I mean, all these years later,
still most of us are two dumb to even understand MMP,
Yeah yeah right.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call where late, but will be placed some messages and
back with more of your calls very shortly.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's eight to.

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Speaker 3 (38:02):
News talks, MB news TALKSB four year parliamentary terms.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Good idea or not? And do you want to throw
out m MP as I do? Beryl you're a fan
of STV, Yes, but but.

Speaker 23 (38:17):
Guys, I was supposed to have been before Ben and
Ben God came before me.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I know that you wouldn't get that with the first
part past the post system.

Speaker 23 (38:27):
No, you wouldn't. You know, you definitely wouldn't. Anyway, it's
not been fault, probably your fault there. Anyway, I'm for
STV and actually you'll find in some electoral cases, as
you've already said that it is actually happening. And just
be with me.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Well, I make you go on.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You're making a lot of rules here, Beryl, I could have.

Speaker 23 (38:51):
Said what I had to say, guys, just quickly. I
think a three year term should stay in because if
someone said a little bit before that, they can always
get voted back in. I don't blame your sympathy everything
I did vote here, but the sandy the country was
a disaster, and if you bring up England, I wouldn't

(39:13):
use England as a comparison. I've got family opens there
and at a sage year god they it's been absolutely
terribly policit, terrible politically in England between both parties. Actually,
so yes I'm for STZ and yes I am for
a three year, three year election whatever good.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Stuff, Beryl. She's also for phone calls being answered in
order that they come through. She was hot on that one,
wasn't you how You've got to respect it. She's got passion.
She she leaves in fairness.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
She was making all the demands. Thank you very much,
Beryl and everybody else who got involved in that discussion.
We're going to change things up after two o'clock. We
want to talk about booze and festivals.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Let's go yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
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Speaker 3 (40:18):
Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. Six past two.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Happy Valentine's Day. Thank you mate. No, it's I keep saying.
I'm saying it to the listener. You know what did
you give me? No, I'm saying it to their country.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Oh right, yeah, I mean you're a generous man.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, I don't want you to have not a happy
Valentine's Day.

Speaker 20 (40:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I got some of that love as well. I felt it.
I felt it.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
You're part of it. You're one of the five million people.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
You're a beautiful man, very generous. Right on to this topic,
which will be a good discussion. So Alex Turnbull, he
has hosted a huge outdoor party nestled in the beautiful
Kadrona valley, lush foothills each New Year. A lot of
people would know what it's called rhythm and alps. So
he's running for fifteen years, and over that fifteen years,
he says he's had approximately six to seven people arrested

(41:04):
over those fifteen years for getting a little bit out
of control behavior wise.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
So that's safest. So you've got ten thousand people there,
which is a small town. Yeah, and so six rests
over fifteen years nothing that is good behavior. That means
that you were running a very safe, happy festival, absolutely,
and authorities should respect that. That you've shown that you've
got good governance. You think so.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But at the end of twenty twenty three, Turnbull found
himself at a district licensing committee hearing where police and
health authorities were doing something unusual, fighting his request to
sell punters for alcoholic drinks at a time they instantly
opposed it, says Turnbull. He went on to say that
that is a massive challenge because without alcohol sales, quite rightly,
Rhythm and Alps and many other festivals would not be profitable.

(41:50):
There's no way we could run it, absolutely no way.
He went on to say, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
This is symptomatica of across the board. As I was
saying before, I went to a music festival recently and
they kept on telling me to take my sunglasses off.
So that was a new rule. They always come up
with these new rules to baby you. So I'm a
growing and I've got kids. I Am going up to
buy a drink and they're saying, you've got to take
your sunglasses off before you buy this drink. You're only

(42:15):
allowed to buy these many drinks. They don't trust you.
They think you're just going to go around the corner
and drink all four but beers. So what so what
if you did buy four drinks and when a drink
them the south or you're going back to share them
with people. We're adults. Stop treating us like children. If
you commit a crime, if you start behaving badly, that's
when you punish people. But this, I don't know how
we need to We've got to stop this because it

(42:36):
makes it really hard for people to do things and
festivals and New Zealanders getting together. It's so important. These
are the moments you remember in life. And these places
need to make money or else they can't do it.
They're not charities. And the one way they make money
is from the booze. And one thing that people want
to do when they're at these festivals is drink booze,
So stop treating us like children.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
It's effectively litting to tell me to take my glasses off.
Were hot on that one.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
We need to start shaming people that come up with rules.
If someone comes up with the rules like people have
to take off their sunglasses before they get a served,
we need to start calling them bosses. We need to
start doing you can handle them and having a few drinks,
you know, then we need to go back to that
kind of attitude to these people, a good public shaming.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I like it was the next question, sir, how many
of you had to drink over the course of today, Like,
none of your business at fifteen dozens.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
It's just give me my beer. It's no business of yours.
What's on my eyes or what's been in my stomach,
that's absolutely none of your business. If I'm committing a crime,
then sure arrest me. If I start just running around
throwing haymakers, then sure arrest me. I mean, I'm not
even sure why we're not allowed to be drunk like.
I mean, if you're not causing any problems, they can

(43:48):
legislate the state of your mind.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I mean, there's something that's happened and I don't quite
understand it, but over the past eighteen months to two years,
these district licensing committee hearings are effectively zero alcohol.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
They don't want alcohol at any event or anywhere.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
What was the policy change that all of a sudden
police are so so empty alcohol. Yes, they've always had
a bit of a problem with it, you know, in
bars and all that stuff about when a bar can
close and when it can open, and the one door
policy and.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
All that sort of a lava.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
But something crazy has happened that all of a sudden,
what we have no alcohol anywhere?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
And is the harm being done by alcohol in the
community from people that are going out having few drinks
at a festival? Is that where the harm is?

Speaker 24 (44:28):
That?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Is that the cold face of problems in our society
around alcohol? I don't think so. When people are involved
in positive things off and over the holiday break and
people have gone out on a limb, they've risked money,
they've put together this thing together, they've got these bands,
they've got performance to come in, so that they've got
a risk. People go, they're having a good time. They
want to drink andy, want to have a dance. Is
that where you want to screw people down, hard working

(44:50):
New Zealanders that are letting off some steam. Is that
the people that you want to belittle, but telling them
to get their glasses off and act. Look, if we
treat people like babies, the lack like babies.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, I love the
passion from you man nineteen ninety ten.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
To be clear, I'm not angry at the security guards
that do it or the people that are working at
the bar. If they tell me to take my sunglasses off,
I'll do it because they're just minimum wage people just
getting their job done. It's not their fault. The people
we need to shame are the people that are making
these decisions that are at these meetings. It's letting the
the kids win.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
And there's dick kids anywhere you go. But I saw
they were trying to ban somebody having a beer at
a beach in the middle of the day. If you
want to go down there and have a picnic with
your family and have one can of beer because it's
a Saturday afternoon, why can't you do that? Why do
you let the dick kids win. We're letting the scaredy
cats and the chicken lickings.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Decide how we live our lives. And if you do
that then nothing will ever happen and our country will
slowly grind to a very safe halt.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
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Speaker 4 (46:02):
Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
It is a quarter past two, lads. I'm Irish living
here for years and it feels like we live in
a nursing home. It's ficking madness. If e c ki
n he spelt it okay, the Irish way as well,
I did. Yeah, very good. Case you thought I swore
I did not. Yeah, well there's something to that.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I mean, if you're from somewhere like Ireland, and I'm
not saying or Irish, you know a bunch of drunks.
But Europe or the UK, their alcohol, the way that
they deal with alcohol was a lot more relaxed than
how we do it here, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, I think I was talking about this to you
last year. How I was walking along the canals in
London and my sister goes to me. This was last year,
and my sister goes to me, should we get a pint?
And I said, oh, yeah, but it's nice out. I
don't really go into gues and I we'll just go
into the pub by a pint each and they put
it in a plastic cup so you don't steal the
point last and then you just can leave. You need
to take away pint from a pub. And she's lived

(47:02):
over there for twenty years, so for her and I
was going, wow, are we allowed to leave? I was
trying to hide it. I couldn't believe it. He goes,
what why Why wouldn't you be able to buy a
pint and walk out of a pub? And that's it.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
And if we did that here, everybody would freakat having
a beer at a McDonald's for example.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
When we first started having alcohol, are at cinemas freaked out.
I always judge people that start their text with wow, Wow,
you guys really have no idea about alcohol harm in
the community or events. The number of assaults and hospitalizations
that come from large events. Really, because we're just talking
about this one and there's only been six arrests in
fifteen years. Now, ten thousand people are at the festival.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And festivals more than any other I think you know
they know what they're doing in terms of someone who's
had too much to drink or is making a ticket
to themselves. They have absolutely processes in place to get
rid of those dickets.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
And that's it.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
If you want to if you want to buy four
drinks at at the front of the bar and you
want to drink all those four drinks yourself, as long
as you're not making a dicky yourself and causing harm
to other people, then you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well you should be final. Do you know who never
assaults anyone at a music festival? Who?

Speaker 12 (48:05):
Me?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Exactly? Ray thoughts on this on festivals and the crackdown
on serving alcohol.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
So guy, I completely agree with what you're saying. I
love my festivals and my festivals. I love to push
the boat out, have a couple of bears, have a
bit of a party, and I just want to correct
that last season new text in But they don't know
what they're talking about. So of all the flaws I've
been to and all the woman's I've been to, I've
never seen people get aggressive. I've certainly never seen people

(48:37):
get taken out for fighting. I would suggest that might
happen occasionally at younger events and I'm thinking probably Rhythm
and Vines, But at events where there are adults, as
an adult and like predominantly people over about age thirty,
you will not see people getting too drunk or too

(48:57):
out of it or creating problems for any of the
other festival goers. And you know what they are really
interesting is like the festivals such as On such as
kerry Burn and ex Shipwreck and Export used to be
full buyo. They used to have no restrictions on people
and just trusted the people would do the right thing

(49:19):
and not create havoc and cast other people. And the
vestials which still do that now, which is On and Cuban,
they just say their problems, like the police don't need
to go there because people are you know, being violent
or being aggressive or even being two out of it.
And I think the more rules we put on adults
about restricting their behavior at vessels and parties, it's just

(49:42):
like walderism. It's just it's just it's just it's not
it's a lot of its interests of allowing adults to
be responsible for themselves.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah, it's not. As I was saying before, this isn't
the cult face of alcohol harm in our community festivals
where people going along to enjoy music, they're very happy places.
They're not. They're not. I'm with you, Ray, I've never
seen a fight at a festival. I've never seen. I've
seen people get annoyed about someone standing on their picnic blanket.

(50:13):
That's about as agro as I've ever seen it at
a festival. And I remember in Auckland there used to
be the summer series. It was in Albert Park and
you could just bring in. You could bring in a
chili bin and have you drink and watch music. It
never seemed to be a major drama. Society didn't collapse.

Speaker 14 (50:31):
It was.

Speaker 15 (50:33):
Thanks you guys.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
Know where the majority of violence relates to alcohol happens, right,
It happens at home. It doesn't happen in bars and
my cousins family, doesn't happen at festivals. Unfortunately, the majority
of alcohol related violence happens on the home.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not these friendly fun places
where people let off steam, they have a little bit
of dance. They're there to have it, have you experienced
ray what I experienced at a festival. They told me
to take my sunglasses off before I bought drinks.

Speaker 7 (51:09):
I've never heard of that from my fast. I feel
like I feel like I'm about the same age, and
I would just I just don't know what i'd say.
I'd probably make you serious.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, well, I was really confused when I was asked.
But I'm really conscious not to be addic to people
that have just doing their job. You know what I mean.
It's you've got to we've got to be a dick
to the people above that, the people that come up
with these layers of stupid rules. Because people don't push back,
that's the thing they go harm. So now I've come
up with this new one, and if anyone anyone pushes back,

(51:40):
they say, well, we won't get you. We won't, you
won't be able to do your festival, you'll go out
of business. Unless you agree to our rules, you won't.
We won't give you your license. So they come up
with something as ridiculous as making adults who live in
this country, who pay taxes, who have kids, in my case,
like children. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, it sounds sounds like we're
on the same page.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, cheers, Ray, thank you very much so much for
your call. Yeah, and again, I just can't understand. These
licensing committees have existed for a long time. Why is
it over the last couple of years they seem to
want to shut everything down?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
What happened? What was that policy?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
What has gone on with the police in particular that
they want to have all these events alcohol free? I
don't understand it because there hasn't been a big uptick
in these festivals.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
I just think we're becoming a society where safety always
wins the argument. So you can point to a potential
harm that could happen, and you can list off some
terrible things that happen, and there's no denying that terrible
things happen on alcohol. I totally agree with that. That's fine.
But you can list those things off and then you
just shut down the conversation, and then you threaten people's
license to sell alcohol at the event, which means that

(52:47):
they could not run the event, and it just wouldn't happen. Right,
So you've got these people up, but you know you're
holding them hostage. Really, so we need to shame back
the other way there used to be if someone said
something like that, you'd go, didn'ts O. Come on, mate,
blame grow up. You know, we need to shame back
these people. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Now I probably un fairly through under the bus there
they're part of the district Licensing committee. But I actually
think it's the health authorities. It is the health authorities
that are ones who are saying not can't have any alcohol.
But if you know, and you've been a part of
these committees, or you're in the health system or certainly
part of.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
The police, love to hear from you. Oh, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty, what's going on? I love the
idea that you can't buy you four beers at once,
and yet you can go to a bottle store and
buy twelve one, one, two fives of gin if you want.
So when you're in the happy, positive place where someone's
put together a festival, you can't buy four drinks.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Yep, exactly twenty two past two.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Back very shortly, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call
oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Good afternoon. We're talking about the district licensing committees effectively
trying to shut down festivals, or at least opposing them
serving alcohol, which would in turn mean the end of
festivals around.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
The country, making it harder and harder for them to
sell olco at the festivals, and coming up with new
and increasingly strict and bizarre rules every year. Lance, Welcome
to the show. Who do you think is responsible for
this situation?

Speaker 13 (54:20):
Well, there's three groups. Really, We at one stage as
a company had the most will We applied for and
received the most temporary liquor licenses. So I think I
know this thing inside out. You've got three players. One
is the council, the next one is the police guy

(54:40):
who will be the local liquor guy for the police.
And then you've got the medical Officer of Health. And
the problem you have is every single territory in New
Zealand it will be you'll get a different result. So
just as an example, you might get the police guy
in Hamilton might be dreadful to deal with, or I

(55:01):
can tell you for a fact, the medical Officer of
Health for Wellington is terrible. And really the Medical Offices
of Health got involved probably about sort of ten years
ago when they put this whole harm minimalization thing in
and their point of view is you should basically be

(55:23):
one or two drinks under what you would drink if
you were going to drive, And that's even if you're
going to walk or bus so what, And that's basically
where they want you. Anything over that they consider it
to be intoxication, and intoxication is harm. And that's basically
it now as for the people on the front line
are actually serving you, just to give you an idea,

(55:46):
but used to cost us about thirty eight dollars to
get a liquor license. Nowadays, if it's what they call
a large event, which is over fifteen hundred people, it's
going to cost you seven hundred and eighty bucks to
put on the event. And the guys that you're dealing
with on the front line, the reason they're asking you
your sunglasses or whatever is if they serve you and

(56:07):
you're intoxic catered, they will get a ten grand fine,
and then the organizer of the event will get a
ten grand fight. And the person who's got a liquor
license to the event because you're just serving so we'll
get a ten grand fight. So you know, if you're
doing an events in your profit might be you know,
ten grand and you're thirty grand in the hole for
serving somebody who's over the limit? What are you going

(56:29):
to do?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, and that's rough, But I'd questioned the whole philosophy
on that. What's the what's the problem if I'm over
the limit? Well, and I'm not, and i'm not I'm
not driving because I never would, and and I'm not
fighting and I'm doing anything, So why are you legislating
the state of my brain?

Speaker 13 (56:47):
Look, I agree with you one hundred percent. One of
one of the biggest years, we did sixty sixty what
we would call major events. In one year. You just
have two crews going around, you know, with either sponsor
it or do it ourselves or whatever. Didn't see a
single fight. You'd see people, you know, who have had
too much, and they might fall asleep in the sun
and get a wicked case of sunburn. But you know,

(57:08):
I think I think it was I think they got
the mixed right about ten years ago, right, and then
they just went too far. And when was the last
time you saw a blues bruise and barbecues? Yeah, you
know what I mean. And they were bringing events and
they were huge fundraisers for the our essays in the
Gaze Club and they all just got too hard, too hard,

(57:29):
too hard, and you're right, you know, give it another
couple of years the way it's going and there won't
be any events and all that sort of fundraising stuff disappears.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So and you've got this thing where you've got people
that want to do good stuff. They want to create something,
they run on a festival, they want to run an event,
and there's a lot of work in that. There's a
lot of hurdles right now. Those people have to expend
so much energy to fulfill the you know, the requirements
of people that aren't really in line with the thinking
of most New Zealanders. Because these festivals are popular. People

(58:00):
go along and they like to have a drink. So
it's almost like we need to have a jury service
where you get the where people are put on these
these boards that make the decisions that are in align
with how most people think about New Zealand rather than people.
And look, I get it. If you're a police officer,
you would see the absolute worst of the worst. And
I understand why they would have that view of alcohol.

(58:20):
I totally get that they see people in terrible positions.
Having said that, I'm friends with some police officers and
then they like a drink, but I imagine they get pretty
steemed themselves.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, and same with the health authority.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
What did you call the.

Speaker 13 (58:37):
Political officer of health.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Medical officer of Health.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I get that as well, because they would see the
worst of the worst coming through the A and E
departments and how much that's costing the system, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
But then to.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Say, you know, you're okay buying one beer at Rhythm
and Alps, but you can't have four, it just makes
no logical sense.

Speaker 13 (58:55):
Yeah, I mean, look, you know, we see it and
we try to explain. You know, we're trying to get
a local license for a Wellington event at the moment,
and it's crazy. You know, we've been doing this event
for thirty years, trying to apply for this one. The
two people who are involved from the council point of
view are brand new and one of them is literally

(59:15):
straight out of UNI. And the questions we're being asked
that had thirty ridiculous. But you know, you have to
try and explain to these people. Look that they're waited
and queue for forty minutes to get to you to
get a bear by the time. And you know, some
of these guys have got kids, so you know, someone
sitting down looking after the kids, somebody else is in
a queue. You know, you're telling them they can't take

(59:37):
a drink back to the partner.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yeah, and you're saying you don't believe them. So they say, well, look,
I've got I've got some people back there. I don't
believe you're taking it to people. That's not your thing
to decide, you know.

Speaker 13 (59:47):
Yeah, And the trouble is us being the guys serving.
We can see you. You're only sitting twenty feet away.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, you know what I mean. But they bring then
they bring in rules where they are you're only allowed
so many places to serve alcohol within the event that
you're putting on. So the queues are huge. And at
the same time, you're saying that people can't get four
beers to take back to their friends or their family.
So basically you're asking people to be in a queue

(01:00:14):
all day to Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:00:18):
So we were years ago. I showed them the band system,
you know, where you have multiple bands on, right, and
the idea is uhould be passing the buck back to
the actual the individual who's drinking, right, So you have
a band on which is okay, this guy's okay to drink,
you know, he's of the right age. That's one band,
and he's another band, which is he's okay to drink. Now,
somebody gets absolutely tanked and is making a ta to themselves.

(01:00:41):
You know, that's up to security or the guys who
assureing the drink to cut that band off so he
can't he cannot drink until he's sobered up enough and
he can go to the Saint John's into a security
temp or whatever and persuade them that, you know, he's
sobered up or had something to eat or whatever. Right,
so it's back to their personal responsibility. But they don't
want to do that. And so you know, instead of

(01:01:02):
maybe three or four guys at the festival who get
carried away who would do so at home or do
so in the anyway, the rest of the festival goers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Are exactly because you can, you can, you can come
up with an example that's bad. Therefore everyone is the
same as that person when it's just it's just not
the case.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah, and that same person you go to a liquor
store and buy twenty boxes a goon, no problem, no question.

Speaker 13 (01:01:32):
Well, to give you an idea of how how pitty
you get to like the one we're talking about with
Wellington at the moment, we're talking about doing little examples.
We're talking three mills in a place for cup and
we're being asked to put in writing and guarantee that
we won't do more than four servings in an hour
that together, it's not even a single shot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Well that's so they're basically running this idea that alcohol
is inherently bad. But if you go to a music
festival and you look back at the crowds of happy
New Zealanders jumping up and dancing in the sun, if
you look at that and you don't see that there's
some joy in that, and there's some positive positivity in that,
then you shouldn't be the person that's making the decisions

(01:02:14):
around the licensing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:02:17):
Absolutely, And I mean most of the guys who are
running the festivals are really professional at what they're doing.
They've got, you know, hundreds of thousands, it's not millions
of dollars invested. They don't want everybody there trolley. Yeah,
it doesn't work for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Them, No, you know, I understand that's more work that's
punishing punishing for them. Yeah, hey, thank you so much
for your call. Lance, really appreciate that great call. Good
luck with doing things and fighting against things to make
things happen, you know, fighting against all this craziness to
make things happen for people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
And I mean I should have realized, but when Lance
sid when was the last time you went to a
blues bruise and barbecues but seafest and Kai Quarter which
they touched many years ago because it was too hard
getting past the licensing committee. I mean there's multiple events
that now I think about it, have just gone being
Kai Bosh, which is a mess upset to the community

(01:03:10):
that they were held because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Of these licensing committees. Yeah, anyway, all right, you're right. Oh,
e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you disagree
with us? Because generally speaking, I'm just looking at the
text machine, it's got to be ninety percent of people
texting three that agree with us. There's a few people
that a stay in the text with wow, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Well I think we might have after the headlines as
someone who's worked as an adder as a medic at events,
so that we great to chat to that person.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
There's coming up. Okay, to see if we can get
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Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Thank you very much, Royleen. It is twenty two to
three and we're talking about the district licensing committees coming
down pretty hard on festivals and of e in general.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah, someone says, we do want to stop alcohol, which
is legal events, but drugs that are legal, we want
to test for them so you don't get harmed. That's interesting.
One from Trevor. A lot of people texting through this
one about about the Wellington Seven. Wellington's seven closed down
after John Campbell did the show on the Drunk People.
I've never forgiven him for this. John Campbell used to
do that a lot, doing Campy Life. If they didn't

(01:05:30):
have an idea for a story, they'd just go and
film drunk people and shame them and try and act
like the whole world was like that. They remember they
went down to Queen Street, they'd go to the they'd
go to the races and Christ Church cup and show.
They'd go to the Sevens just to just voyous voyeuristically
look at the most drunk people and act like that's
how everyone was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
And that was the end of the sevens, wasn't it?
When they tried to go family friendly as they called it,
that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
It was done. Dalliport Wine and Food Festival was a
great day out for family and friends. Event now no
longer on due to red tape and no council support.
Hey guys, it's not just the alcohol laws. It's everything,
the traffic management, the health and safety. There's nothing they
haven't put their fingers into. That was a weird snort, Yeah,
what was That's not for I wouldn't have snorted like that.

Speaker 20 (01:06:14):
I liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
There's nothing they haven't put their fingers into. All of this.
All of this makes a huge expense for anybody trying
to organize a simple festival. That's the thing. You just
make it harder and harder and harder. So they've got
to deal with the traffic management, they've got to deal
with the changing rules around alcohol, and you just lack
of this amount. So basically, to put on a festival

(01:06:37):
or an event, you just have to be swimming upstream
so hard. And that's before you even deal with the
actual basics of the logistics of running a festival and
getting the artists there and actually putting the thing on.
You've got to You've got to deal with this craziness.
There should just be blanket rules and you don't have
to You don't have to invent the wheel for each festival.
This is what you have for a festival. You can

(01:06:58):
sell drinks, you can do this, you can do that,
and just go They should They shouldn't have to deal
individually and ask individually for each thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
You should run for Medical officer of health of news
Ill and Matt. I think it'd go well in that role.
Now we mentioned before the headlines a medic has given
us a call and he has attended several events. He's
on his way to one now and his name is Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Mike, welcome to the show. Your thoughts on this. I
guess you've been on the front line of people that
have had a couple.

Speaker 12 (01:07:25):
Once or twice over a year. Here definitely couple of
them to imports over time and down on average, we
would probish about five to six percent of patron for
people that we treat for intoxication quite often time toxico
system medically there's enough a wee can merinically, they'll go

(01:07:46):
to a little safety's own and help them sober up
and then taxis sit from that. It's most common. It's
more booboos and ours. The creational drugs and alcohol is
very very low on what we used to treat, and
some of the festivals that we do posted the alcohols

(01:08:06):
like a license in. Police would come in and check
on us and have a chat and see what we're
dealing them. And nine times out of ten, I'd say
I actually quite supportive as to how the event was
going due to the lack of drunk people. I find
really interesting but large mentioned belt people being over the
limit and under the limits. I was actually at a
sponsored a few years ago. My security company were walking

(01:08:29):
around with Brish testing units and if a person was
over the precastly legal limit for driving, I scored off
out of the premises because our class to be intoxicated. Yes,
I'd had a couple of dregs and they're having a
good time. They weren't acting stupid. That's what happened to them,
and that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I mean, that's insane. If you've got the level of
alcohol in your system for walking, it's very different. It's
very hard to do a lot of damage when you're
just walking around. Yeah, you know the idea that you
would run the driving alcohol limit on people just walking around,
that's pure insanity.

Speaker 12 (01:09:05):
Why I actually asked the organizers and security got me offs.
It's these machines calibrated or what are they not just
cheat machines have brought from j car and we're organizing,
said I have an universal tapman and stopped it. There
have been twenty, maybe thirty people it's caught it off
for property because of it. They having a good time

(01:09:27):
and this was a putty cruise the concept. But yeah,
it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
We don't see we've still it's actually it's actually cruel.
They think that they are being the good guys, but
they're actually the bad guys in the situation. And the
other thing you bring up, Mike around illegal drugs. So
kids now know that alcohol is a very difficult thing
to get and it's complicated. It's actually easier for them
to get mdm A or the drugs that they can

(01:09:51):
take before they go in. Yeah, so so you might
you might you might have shut down their drinking of alcohol,
but the kids are going to get wasted somehow. Yeah, exactly, exactly, well, classics.

Speaker 12 (01:10:01):
At one festival that we to do a lot of
the Free Day Festival nine. The first sight have a
different geys and they had fund The second night would
be the big drugs that we were doing multiple ods
and a drunk people and in the last night was
a little bit of a mixture of both. But yeah,
similarly the glugs that are more prominent and the alcohol.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
But the fact that you know you're there as a
medic mic at these festivals, and that's you know, that's
a big point there that festivals have security guards, they've
got medics, they've got people watching out for someone who
might get into trouble for having a bit too much.
That is a far safer environment than you know, then
going into a liquor store and getting a couple of
bottles of whiskey and god knows where you're going to

(01:10:45):
go and drink that.

Speaker 12 (01:10:46):
Well, some of constituency as a classic one dis recently
we're a medical temps. They had nurses running the call
the drunk tent make it easier, but it was the
you know, if you keep an armed people. I needed
to be a medical assistance that come next. Nice, but
they had all support and on one of the days,
the entire time, all we had was forty people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Exactly. Hey, thank you so much for your call, Mike
and your insights at the cold face of a problem
that doesn't really seem to exist. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Wait, one hundred eighty and eighty great to hear from
a medic on the ground. And as he said, you
know what was it four people out of six and
a half thousand that they treated for maybe even a
little bit too much alcohol. Nine was the text number.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
It's funny after I pointed out that a lot of
people say, you know, the really judgment mental people put
a wow at the start of the text. Wow, you
guys need to grow up. Wow. Now everyone's trolling me
by putting wow at the start of the text. You
did that to yourself?

Speaker 16 (01:11:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
News Talk ZB. Good afternoon, Rod, Welcome to the show,
your thoughts on licensing around festivals and such.

Speaker 25 (01:12:14):
Realm Matt and Tyler epic shows blows smoke up your
earth being here lots of festivals and lots of concerts.

Speaker 20 (01:12:28):
Over the years, being an old bugger, But really.

Speaker 25 (01:12:32):
It's it's it's Cognian and what was it competence difference.

Speaker 16 (01:12:38):
I mean, people go to.

Speaker 25 (01:12:42):
Concerts and festivals to get a bit of joy, you know,
and and joy off often involves having a drink and
you know, having a yahoo. So I think it's really
bizarre that they want to stop people going to these
events and you know, not having a drink or maybe

(01:13:08):
having one or two and leaving it at that.

Speaker 20 (01:13:13):
Like you guys are saying, it's a sort of a
many state sort of thing.

Speaker 25 (01:13:17):
I mean, look at all the people that go to
festivals and dropping acid and taking MDMA. I mean, that
is the stuff they should be looking at and setting
up places for people to you know, test whatever weird
substance they're going to take.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It's interesting what you say Rod about you know, people
coming together and having having fun. So that is a
sort of social cohesion in itself. So if we lose
all these events because they're too hard to put on.
Then we lose a lot as a society because coming
together in large groups of different people from all walks
of life to go to festivals, to go to these things,
that is, that is great for people loving their country

(01:14:03):
and loving their fellow citizens. So there is for sure
there's a damage society them down. You know, this is
a damage society by making it too hard for people
to put these things on.

Speaker 20 (01:14:13):
You've nutshelled it, you know, really it's quite bizarre.

Speaker 25 (01:14:19):
I mean, people are not going to stop taking drugs
or drinking.

Speaker 20 (01:14:24):
Alcohol when they go to festivals.

Speaker 25 (01:14:27):
That's what humans do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
All right, and that's it. You know, when you talk
about alcohol, everyone always focuses on the negative sides of alcohol,
but you never hear about positives. And clearly there are
positives of alcohol, as you say, social cohesion, the fact
that you can have festivals, you can go out and
you can have a nice drink with your friends and
family and enjoy something. Have a buggy, have a boggye
oh hundred eighty is the number to call Beck very shortly.

(01:14:53):
And the ticks number. There's some great ticks coming through.
Nine to nine two. It is nine to three.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the VOLDO xc N eighty
innovation style and to save.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Have it all youth talks, they'd.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Be news talks there be. It is seven to three.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Hayden, welcome to the show. Your thought on restrictions around
alcohol at festivals as are going too far?

Speaker 22 (01:15:22):
Yeah, hey boys, I definitely think it is. I think
this is an ongoing symptom from two thousand and eight
when we started to say to New Zealanders that it
actually the consumer isn't at fault for their own purchase
and that the blame must sit with the business. And
when you look at festivals now, they're the latest and
the long line of businesses and hospitality and visitor economy

(01:15:46):
that have been affected by this mindset. If you look
through CBDs now, I think you were in a hospital. Say,
things are tough, but particularly if you're in bars, in
nightclubs now where police, liquor licensing and councils are now
shifting closing times or one way doors to earlier and
earlier times. And you know, probably one of the saddest things,

(01:16:06):
and evidence of that is you go to total right now,
and have a look at this CBD, which used to
have a pumping nightlife. They're as busy at brunch as
they are on a Friday night. And that's that's an
attitude that is across our government, our local body, and
our licensing authorities. I get it. We understand police councils

(01:16:27):
that don't want bad media, if police don't want to
be arresting people in bars, but all they're doing is
shifting people that are going to an organized venue where
there is some security and medical support to garages.

Speaker 7 (01:16:40):
What we do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
What we do is we punish. It is that the
right way we punish people that are doing something and
creating something, opening a bar or running a festival. Those
are the people we punish. Where I mean, I would
support removal of tax on alcohol at establishments now where
you get people out and it's hiring people and you
know people are being looked after in a place. Lower

(01:17:02):
the tax on that and try and move the consumption
of alcohol out of the house and into establishments and
to events.

Speaker 22 (01:17:10):
Rat I'm with you on that. I'm all four making
it harder to purchase at an off license so that
when you are drinking, you're in a well managed, secure
space that has some laws around how much alcohol you
can be served, and that includes festivals. But we're making
it so hard and so much easier for people to

(01:17:30):
just go by a palett of dobos. So it's a
flat and done it and just get less. And we're
seeing just huge rumbles on castle cuity these days, where
we used to see them down in the pubs that
either in having a mean time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah, well, I've got to say that I have had
a lot of great times in dened and sitting on
the couch with a few doughbros with my mates.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
And you would have gone through a few couches as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
I'll probably sit a few couches on fire in my time.
Hey Hayden, thank you so much for your call. You
have a great day ready and great weekend. Great discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
I think ninety nine point nine percent of the Texas
coming through saying, yeah, it's just got a bit much
light and ut. Let us have a bit of booze,
joyce and fist.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
We work hard. Absolutely, let us let off some steam
right after three o'clock. A good story, well of a
good stre.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Exactly, Yeah, good story about this deep seek Ai Chinese AI.
You would have heard about it quite controversial, but are quitetroversial.
But someone asked it to roast New Zealand and some
funny lines there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
But we want to turn it around a little bit. Yeah,
that's right. So we're going to get you to unroast
New Zealand. Toast New Zealand after you've listened to an
AI roast. Next new beginning comes from some of the beginnings.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoons with the Volvo X ninety news Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Good afternoon, six past three, the Hour of Power on
a Friday. Topical tunes coming up very shortly, and we've
got a great topic to discuss with you about roasting
or hopefully toasting our great country, New Zealands.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
New Zealands. New Zealand has been heavily roasted by AI.
It's beauty old Chinese AI deep seek Yeah, and it's
roasted us in pretty good roasting actually, So we're going
to try and turn that around and do the impossible
and get people to ring up on our one hundred
and eighteen eighty and say something positive about New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
A bit of love for New Zealand on Valentine Say
that's coming up very shortly, but right now it is
seven past three.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on ZIBB, we
named the New Zealander of the Week in honor that
we bestow on a newsmaker who has had an outsized
effect on our great and beautiful nation over the previous week.
As always, there'll be three nominations, but only one winner.
And remember, the New Zealand of the Week isn't always
an agent of good. Sometimes the nominations are lame, annoying,

(01:20:03):
or outright evil. So, without further ado, the nominees for
Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the ah nominee
one also receives they think You're better than everyone else award,
harboring an illusion that they live in a scenic reserve
and not a heavily commercialized tourist trap by a lake.
These anti progress, anti delicious food locals showed us this
week why it's so hard to get anything done in

(01:20:23):
this country. The anti Golden Archers wanaka elitist locals. You
have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week nominee
two also receives the too many chefs in the Kitchen Award.
I suffer a moor dupless creefy, Bradshields and Billy proct
have all been entrusted with the role of captain in
their team for Super Rugby this year. Four great players
and great New Zealanders that come on, you only need

(01:20:45):
one captain. I look forward to the four of them
standing in a circle taking half an outside, whether kck
it into the corner or go for three points. There's
bloody four of them. They can't even run. A vote
for being too scared to man up and pick someone
to be your captain. The Wellington Hurricanes management. You were
nominated for New Zealander of the Week. Yep, I done
all right, but there can be only one and the
winner of Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the

(01:21:07):
Week also receives the coveted give him a Taste of
Kiwi Award alright. As part of a fundraising drive for
Monica Manua, a Center for research to fund new heart
valve devices for children, this New Zealander drove a land
Rover up a total of two parliamentary steps and the
same very cool land Rover, which was also driven up
the steps in nineteen forty eight. His reward for doing
this most New Zealand of things, the media angry about

(01:21:29):
other things, proceeded to pretend to be outraged for a
whole week. In some week, winging opposition babies went as
far as claiming he should lose his ministerial position for
two steps in a land Rover, hard enough for daring
to have some harmless fun and a time of pathetic
soft downstairs worsory. David Seymour, you are the Matt and
Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week. We congratulations, give

(01:21:53):
him a taste of Kiwi, God bless and God's speed.
Very cool land Rover, a beautiful past.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
News talk z be.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Well another great winner of New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
And we'll do it all again next week.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
So thank you very much. Right on to this topic
about the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Paper before, can I just something's just happened to me
that's humiliating. I need to share it serious now. How
when I was making coffee before, Tyler, you told me
about a new bathroom I'd never heard of. Yep, down
there over by the coffee machine. The VP barthroom here. Yeah,
so I couldn't find it and I was trying to
get into it, and there's a there's a door there,
and I was standing there and I just couldn't work

(01:22:51):
it out until someone came along and went, you were
a moron pressed the button. I'm just sitting in a
huge amount of shame. I've failed the most basic intelligence test.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
So so there's a kitchen in the office. To those listening, right,
Metts didn't realize that there is a beautiful bath room
just around the corner.

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Walking a long way to visit the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
And you keep wondering where I'm disappearing. Off, you're making coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
And you will disappear. Yet what the hell is going
on back there?

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
So clearly, and there's the big glass doors right, and
that's the doors that you're talking about. So you were
just standing in front of these doors open, sesame, Why.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Isn't this working?

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Yeah, until someone pressed the big cream but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
No, it was humiliated mate. Yeah, So just so the
listeners know I'm an idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Well and now in now and there isn't a lovely bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
I felt like I had to share with people that
they're listening to an idiot that can't even open the door.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
That's going to save you a lot of time. Now though,
right onto this topic, this is going to be a dooozy.
So Deep Seek you may have heard about this Chinese
AI very.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
For lack of intelligence to artificial intelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
So a story that popped up on social media this week.
It was a key Wei content creator and travel enthusiast.
He decided to ask this deep Seek AI to roast
New Zealand and it didn't do too bad.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
I think it's done very very well. Like these actually
burn You know, I'm a huge fan of New Zealand,
love our country, burg supporter of the place, been here
most of my life, so that some of us hurt,
but I'm actually quite impressed by it. These actually pretty
good burns. So we'll go through it and then look,
we're going to ask you on one hundred and eighty
ten eighty or nine two niney two to try and

(01:24:29):
toast New Zealand Love to fight back against the dirty
AI overlords out of China. Here you go. You have
a housing crisis, a healthcare crisis, a cost of living crisis,
and a brain drain problem. But hey, at least you've
got Bird of the century. Rights, that's pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
That is good and a lot. We love our bird
of the century.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Now got what was the bird of the century.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
See that it was the Australian bird because old mate
from a US John Watson's face took over it and
minutes to get that Australian did he?

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yeah? Yeah, old John Oliver Oliver that absolute punished. So
that actually hurts that Actually I went off that Bird
of the Year when they gave it to a bat. Stathetic.
If you give it to a bat, then you're out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
We get excited about it of the year, right number two.
The New Zealander is proof that if you put enough
sheep and overpriced house in one place, people will actually
convince themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
It's a utopia.

Speaker 20 (01:25:23):
That hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
I don't know if that's a roast. Put enough sheep
and over house pricing in one place, people will actually
convince themselves they're in the utopia. Okay. The entire country
has the energy of a small town Facebook group where
someone's constantly complaining about teenagers doing burnouts at three am.
I'm concerned about this. I think we've got our number there.
We are turning into a small town Facebook group with

(01:25:44):
people complaining. Yeah, that does seem what that is accurate.
It's funny because it's very very true. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
New Zealand's idea of nightlife is a kabab shop that
closes at nine thirty pm and a drunk nineteen year
old fighting a roadside.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Again, nailed it, every major city. So we're reading out
some burns, some AI burns of New Zealand. Every major
city in New Zealand is just a glorified town except Auckland,
which is a glorified traffic jam.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Oh yeah, nice again hurt Yeah, quite quite hurtful that one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
So that's an AI roast of New Zealand. But can
we can we toast New Zealand? Have you got something?
One hundred and eighty ten eighty? Can you can you
toast New Zealand? Yeah? What are we atilating to nothing?
I don't think people will. I think we've we've reached
a stage in New Zealand where people are just complaining
and no one's no one's toasting.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Well you think that ones come through already, guys, the
Flat White forget about your fancy Lartes and Frappuccino's New
Zealand And Flint and vented the Flat White, which is
basically a love letter to your soul in coffee form.
It's so smooth you'll be wondering if they secretly blend
magic and with the beans. We do coffee better than anybody.
That's a nice toast, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
I'm going to push back on that. I think that
the Flat White is a terrible coffee. It's just a
it's just a trumped up latte. It's all milk, it's
a it's a weak person's coffee. It's a baby's coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Oh dear, we're going to make you a five oh
one and ship you back to I don't know where.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
That is treacherous.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number
to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.
Let's have some toasts for New Zealand. Good afternoon, seventeen
past three on the on the back of AI roasting
New Zealand, Deep Seak having a go at New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
We were trying to toast New Zealand get people to
text through on nine two nine two and R eight
hundred and eighteen eighty with positive things. And this is
a very good point here from Reagan because you you
brought up the flat Someone text through with the flat white.
Ye said, that's a positive of New Zealand and we
can celebrate that, and I immediately want winged about it.
So come on, guys, the very first toast you get,
Matt has a winge. That's true. Yeah, I can complain

(01:27:44):
about winges. And then I immediately winged about the flat white.
What a hypocrict.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
We're getting some nice ones through, but also, dear listeners,
I don't think you've understood the assignment. We're getting a
lot of roasting coming through, but we want the toasting
the nice things about New Zealand. Oh eight hundred eight
and eighty is the number to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Call country with the most potent potentials? Is this this texter? Yep,
least corrupt question mark best water. I like your confidence potential.
Just came home from London. This textas is, and I'm
enjoying the slow pace of New Zealand. Oh that's nice.
That hurts. I love the slow pace of New Zealand.

(01:28:19):
It's a slight I just think it's a faint praise.
I just came home from London and I'm enjoying the
slow pace of New Zealand. It's not that doesn't inspire
me to. I don't know, tattoo the flag on my forehead.
It's slightly boring. Lots of vaping in New Zealand, says
the texture.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
That's definitely not a post. This one's quite nice. Kiwi's
are super chill. New Zealanders are the kind of people
who would apologize if they accidentally bumped into a wall.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Wall.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
It's beautiful, it's nice. Yeah, we do apologize a lot. Yeah,
we gave the world ynr and nick minute. That's true. True,
that's not to celebrate. Hell of a trade. That one.
We have sweet heaps of sweet tats, says this texture.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Great fishing everywhere you go. That is that is not Yeah,
that is the first one that's legitimate.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
That our kaimawana is exempt.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Exempt, next level, next level.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
My pronunciation of exemplary is not exemplary.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Joe Wan, good afternoon to you. Lovely to chat with you. Yes,
now you sorry, you go. What do you love about
New Zealand.

Speaker 24 (01:29:24):
Well, we have been lucky enough to do a bit
of traveling around the world in the last few years
and gone to all the beautiful spots around the world.
That you hear talked about. And then we come back
to New Zealand and it's just got the best scener
in the world. Best beach's, best, unspoilt bush, bush and

(01:29:45):
mountains and yeah, best place.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Love it. What do you think is more beautiful? This
is a controversial question, South Island or North Island scenery.

Speaker 24 (01:29:55):
Well, I guess they both have their points. But we're
from the North Island and we holiday up at the
tudor Kaka coast, so you can't beat that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Yeah, that's lovely. And speaking of good fishing, doesn't get
much better than to Carca Coast.

Speaker 24 (01:30:07):
That's pretty goes, pretty goes pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Special place certainly is Joanne. You're fantastic. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
This textu agrees. I've traveled, Thank you. I've traveled all
around the world and there's no place I'd rather be.
Long Live New Zealand, says this TEXTA. This is going
quite well on us. Actually sales every weekend at Briscoes.
Is that something to toast news? I celebrate that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Yes, that's true, just don't call it their biggest ever sale. Hi, guys,
we are one of only two countries in the world
that has two national anthems.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Which is nice like that, oh yem unbelievable at the
Olympics rowing sitting down going backwards, so good, says this texture.
We are very good at sitting down and going backwards. Yeah,
as we are. We can be proud of that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
The text of flooding and now oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
We'll get more of your phone calls very shortly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Actually it is twenty one past three.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Matt Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight on news
Talk ZB Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
We've asked for the biggest toast of New Zealand, our
beautiful country. On the back of the story of Deep
seek a I a absolutely roasting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Us, saying things such as the entire country has the
energy of a small town Facebook group where someone's constantly
complaining about teenagers doing Bernatt's at three a m. Look
at there's so many texts coming through on nine two
two toasting New Zealand. New Zealander's tops and rowing has
an America's Cup, a multi winner of the US Single
Cedar Championship and A Kiwi was the founder of IF

(01:31:42):
one World Championship winning team so winning country with a
man putting things into outer space as well. Love that
we have a space program. Someone agrees with that, well,
Hamish does you can head a golf ball in the
rough without worrying about something killing you and we punch
above our weight and sport. Give them a taste to
Kiwi from philm.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Nice, Phil like it. Let's go to the phones. Maureen,
how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 18 (01:32:05):
I am my name Catherine? Actually?

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Oh care three? How you doing good?

Speaker 12 (01:32:10):
Thanks?

Speaker 18 (01:32:11):
I was just telling your producer that we've got some
friends staying with us at the moment, and they were
saying that the best thing about New Zealand is that
our version of light solution comes from the moon and
the stars.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Oh that's beautiful. That's nicely posed. Oh well, I was
camping over the break and you know, away from the
city as you do. Boy, oh boy, when you stir up,
when you're outside of the city and you stir up
at the stars, it's mind blowing. Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 18 (01:32:35):
But then it was a full moon last night and
they just couldn't believe the sight of the full moon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
That was pretty incredible last night.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
I don't know if you saw that, man, I know
you would have been sound asleep with your award.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
But it was stuning last night. The full moon was
still up this morning when I got up to walk
the dog this morning, we had the full moon at
one side, and the and the sunrising and the other.
You know, when you get that that moment at certain
time of the years, that is very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Geez, We're lucky in this country. Yeah, Catherine, thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Clean clean skies, no smog, Yeah, no pollution.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Love it, Catherine. Have a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Part of that is because everything gets blown out to
sea because we're so narrow and thin. But we'll take
fantastic guys.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Just came back from overseas Hong Kong after a month there.
We have the most beautiful, clean country in the world
by far. Love it here and wouldn't live anywhere else.

Speaker 26 (01:33:29):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
That makes you feel brown, doesn't That certainly does? This
text to disagrees. Mark says that Ai is dead accurate.
New Zealand is buggered.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Come on, Marke, it's Friday, mates, Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
You can't take Chinese Ai. Deep seak yeah, the deep
Seak side over your own country.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Deep seek Yeah, screw deep Seak. Guys, absolutely adore this country.
I've lived in several different countries overseas, including many in Europe.
They all had their good parts, but nothing like being
here in our own little corner of the world. It
feels like we don't have as many problem as the

(01:34:09):
rest of the world. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Clear your thoughts on New Zealand. Do you want to
toast our country?

Speaker 27 (01:34:16):
I do want to toast our country. We're actually traveling
on the wire wrapid coast and my husband and I
have decided every coastline in New Zealand would equally anywhere
in the world. And today it's absolutely spectacular. We're out
at Cape Palliser.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Oh beautifully. Yeah, we've got a lot of coastline and
we've got a lot of beautiful coastline we.

Speaker 27 (01:34:39):
Have and today is spectacular. So just letting your folk
know that's a plus.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
That is a big plus. And the variety on the
coastlines as well. If you want a bit of ruggage,
you can go to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
The West coast.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
If you want that beautiful golden sands, head to abel Tasman.
We've got it all, totally, love it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
All right, and we we've also got beautiful Thank you,
Claire for your care. We've also got beautiful internal coastlines
around the lakes and Central Otago and topaul Topa or
Lake Topor. It is magic in their place.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
I'm telling you, guys, we're in the world. Can you
find two road cones for every person?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Yeah, that's right, that that's something that we've got. I'm
surprised deep fake, deep fake deep seek didn't didn't come
up with that because we have we are the road
cone capital of the world. Is that a positive is
something we can be proud? No, I think that's something
we should be deeply humiliated about. Yeah, the fact that
there needs to be an executive order from the government

(01:35:37):
to say that road you can't have a road cone
within a meter of another road cone because they started
they started double road coning that they have road cones
right beside each other. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Oh, this is a great text toast for New Zealand.
Chevorn Ruer Kitty ah, Chevan's great, great New Zealander.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Fantastic New Zealander. Yeah, the best toast in the world
of the Vogels. Oh yeah, good bread, very good bread,
very very too long for me. It takes too long
to taste long like you're taking like vogels from Frozen.
That's basically a two hour job with the toasting.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Yeah, but you don't have to do anything. You just
put it on a toaster, crank it up to a
sex and you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Just walk away done. I don't have time to but
it just beautifully mounts through. I'm too busy for vocals. Vocals.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
Get a David, how are you?

Speaker 15 (01:36:26):
I'm good? Thank you. I just are the best things
of New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
That's smart to be pleased.

Speaker 15 (01:36:35):
What I'm true? All right, I'll read it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
You know. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so
glad you did it, David. We should have thought it
done this great, So you've put us the job. Where
you go.

Speaker 15 (01:36:45):
Look, it's quite long, so you just tell me, wouldn't
to stop?

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Okay, Okay, you go.

Speaker 15 (01:36:51):
New Zealand is known for its natural attractions, rich in culture,
friendly locals, excellent food and wines. Specific attractions and experience
include adventure and tourism. New Zealander's name of adventure and
tourism and location of commercial bungee.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Jumps we love a bungee yep.

Speaker 15 (01:37:15):
Rather than adventure activities including jet boating, skiing, planes and absorbing.
Queenstown is the place for adventure. I'll bring activities such as.

Speaker 17 (01:37:28):
Jetboat skiing, ride skiing, river grasping, hiking and biking. Bird
watching your Zealing is the bird watching paradise, home to
the Kiwi and over the eighty species of seabirds. Beautiful
near Auckland hosts again a colony from October to March.

(01:37:54):
I won't carry on reading it too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
It was great I could have listened to ever. It's
making me feel very patriotic in.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
My heart feels very full right now, David.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
So you know.

Speaker 15 (01:38:05):
I'll email it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Ye, do that all right? Hey, thanks for that, David,
I appreciate it. Yeah, that's that the Ai toast of
New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Yeah, and he was only a third of the way through.
Doesn't that make you feel proud? Guys, no snakes. That
is a massive plus from Philippa Manuka.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Honey, Oh yeah, men. Our country is utterly blessed. We're
so fortunate to have been born here. That's true. I
think people often forget that we winge and wine. But
you you know, everyone compares themselves to two people that
have more than them or or you know or people
in a better position than them. But you know, walking
around New Zealand at any given day, you could take

(01:38:44):
a moment to be, you know, feel gratitude that you
aren't born in places that are ravaged by war or
poverty or starvation. There's so much, so many places in
the world where things are just terrible. And just being
born in New Zealand, you have won the lotter, You've
won the life lottery. Just be being born here before
you start complaining, that is lovely.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
A couple of more texts than wrap it up, because
we've got topical tunes on the way. Guys, we've got
the world class wildlife, from the rear Kiwi bird to
the dusky dolphin on the Quarta Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
New Zealanders home to some of.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
The beautiful beasts and creatures internationally.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
That's nice, isn't it. Nineteen nine two Ed says guys
worked for an American company in Auckland and hundreds of
them would come over and the first thing they would
mention was the beautiful fresh air, no photochemical smock. Oh,
that's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Kiwi hospitality. The people of New Zealand are some of
the friendliest and most welcoming people you'll ever find. I'm
from front and absolutely adore the hospitality here, whether it's
a casual chat at a local cafe or a tour
guide sharing their insider knowledge. You guys are just the best,
super warm and hospitable.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
There is actually no where else in the world where
you can go to a beach, ski lake, mountains, fjords,
et cetera. All in the size of the state of
Colorado nowhere. That's true. We are the pocket world here. Yeah.
Oh that was good. Now, I really enjoyed that half hour,
so thank you very much. New Zealand has the best
Mary Jane in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
It's sure, okay, thank you for that, all right, right right,
that is where we'll leave it. That was some beautiful
toast for New Zealand. On the back of Deep Seek, take.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
That Ai, yeah diddy, old deep Seek right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Coming up very shortly Topical Tunes, where Matt and I
each pick a song related to a bit of a
theme of the week. First two three votes via phone
takes it out. If you want to teach, you can
doesn't count, but.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Oh eight hundred if you want to go, Yeah, it
makes us feel good if we get one in our favor. Yeah,
vote for you song. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty,
we'll share our songs next. It is twenty seven to four.

Speaker 14 (01:40:51):
Jus talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis that's
no trouble with the blue bubble. The Health Minister has
made it clear the Director General of Health, Diana Safati,
was not pushed out of her role. She's resigned today,
the third top health official to quit since last week.
The minister tasked with cutting government red tapes, as we

(01:41:12):
can expect many more sector wide regulatory reviews this parliamentary term.
Probe's last year looked into early childhood care and hair dressing.
A former foreign minister says the US has dropped the
ball in the Pacific by not following through on promises
of aid, leaving the region vulnerable to Chinese influence. Police

(01:41:32):
have arrested a man and recovered a homemade taser and
ammunition when searching a vehicle after a pursuit in South
Auckland yesterday. Auckland's Central Interceptor Wastewater Tunnel has gone live
today in its southern half. When completed, the more than
sixteen kilometer stretch will carry waste from across the city
to the Mangardi treatment plant when just asking questions about

(01:41:56):
science turns into three hundred thousand dead. You can read
the full column at Enzaid Herald Premium. Now back to
Mattethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and it is time for
topical cheer uns. This is what we do every Friday.
At this time, we met n each pick a song
related to a theme of the week, first to three
votes via phone wins.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Yeah, that's right, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number. Do you like my song or Tyler's song?
I'll go first. What's the score for this year because
I won twenty twenty four one apiece, one apiece, one
a piece. Okay, So this topic is a big topic,
and there's no doubt it's on people's minds, especially people
that forgot it this morning Valentine's Day. So I'm going

(01:42:36):
to play the single greatest love song of all time,
which is based on the single greatest love play of
all time. Wow. Although to be fair, very depressing into this.
My song is from the nineteen eighty album Making Movies
by Dire Straits, Ladies and Gentlemen.

Speaker 28 (01:42:59):
Oh, Louise, keep the big the band company, No, I
do this kiss.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Tune through the bars over everyone's going to sing along here.
One of the greatest chorus has ever written.

Speaker 28 (01:43:12):
Are when are we live?

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Pretty Good?

Speaker 28 (01:43:27):
Pretty Good?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
My Straights love song? That is just such a fantastic chorus.
Every part of that song's phenomenal, but just the chorus
the drum fell into it, absolute brilliant. It makes me
emotional every time I hear that song. So one hundred
and eighty ten eighty, surely I'm going to win this one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
It's going to be hard to beat, but I think
I've got the song to beat it. And you mentioned
Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Them the same topic as me. Ya, of course I can.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
We're all feeling the love today and look, I was
one of those people that forgot this morning, so I've
got to make it up right now. And this is
dedicated to my lovely partner, Mave. It is can't help
falling in love?

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Well, haven't you? How beautiful? Life'sucker mate's gonna break up
with you after this, but.

Speaker 20 (01:44:19):
You care.

Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
How beautiful? I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
How can you say no to the king when he
sings like that? Or Dave's already bugger off. He must
really hate help us. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten
eighty is the nuther to call. The first to three
votes takes it out right. We'll get into it very shortly.
It is twenty wonder four.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Should I play the UB forty version?

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between?

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort
news talks, there'd.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Be God Afternoon eighteen to four as topical tunes that
w one one hundred and eighty ten at whose song
as best on a topic? My topic was Valentine's Day,
which is a burg topic, and I played the best
love song of all time? You asked me the.

Speaker 28 (01:45:19):
Band company, No I do his kiss?

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Here we go to the bars of a rain?

Speaker 28 (01:45:26):
Shall we do the star?

Speaker 29 (01:45:29):
Ready?

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
And you already stole my topic?

Speaker 20 (01:45:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:45:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
As you mentioned, I was one of those people that
might have forgotten the flowers this morning. So I've dedicated
this to my lovely partner. May it is Elvis?

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
So I feel like I forget the life being sucked
out of the utter. My song energetic, emotional, should have
played the UB forty vision. What three calls aside? What
they call him the king g A Greg? Greg, Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 15 (01:46:09):
How are you going, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Very good? You sound like an Elvis fan.

Speaker 5 (01:46:14):
I'm a big Alwarts fan, actually, Tyler all right?

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Helbig?

Speaker 11 (01:46:19):
Oh pretty big?

Speaker 16 (01:46:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
And I don't very often do this. Yeah, I agree
with I agree with many head.

Speaker 15 (01:46:33):
Unfortunately I'm gonna have to agree with mess this time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Oh really teasing? Thank you, Greg. I like the suspense
you created with that look. I appreciate your support on
this one. Thank you, Greg. That's one vote for me, yeah,
one vote for Romeo and Juliet by dire straight. Nothing
for Elvis yet. Bruce, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 28 (01:46:54):
Yeah, I'll tell you what you can tell Matt that
it's like taking a knife to a gun sign when
you play Can't Help falling in Love?

Speaker 15 (01:47:02):
That's my karaoke song.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
So so it's you Tyler beauty Bruce. Okay, okay, Bruce,
you can tell me that yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
One eat all right, one hundred eighty Irene, what love
song do you like more?

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Is it Elvis or dire Straits?

Speaker 24 (01:47:23):
What what song do I like?

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Bigger? Part of Irene. What did you say?

Speaker 24 (01:47:27):
Ah, would you want me to choose an Elvis one?

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Or yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
Well no, no, you you get to choose Irene. Would
you like Elvis? Would you like dire Straits.

Speaker 23 (01:47:38):
Die greats more my style?

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Okay? Thank you? You call Irene? Oh we should we
should hung up kind for Irene understood what was going
on here?

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
You're going to take their vote? Or should we just
scratch that one and I'll take that vote?

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Okay?

Speaker 14 (01:47:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Two to Marine Great New Zealand. Yeah you do one, Chris,
Welcome to the show. Welcome to topic tunes. There's that
Tyler's punishing Elvas song on my fantastic distrait song.

Speaker 15 (01:48:04):
You know what to do?

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Chris? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
I think that I'm a big Elvis saying, however, I'm
on Elvis is the safe bet and Mark not an
absolute legend.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
So I'm going to Australia one one, haven't I thank
you so much? Christ, that's well done.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Can we just see what Tim was going to say?
Just just on the off chance.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Okay, which way were you going to go?

Speaker 13 (01:48:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Okay, well yeah we can go, so I go to
another one. See Jimmy, which way were you going to.

Speaker 22 (01:48:31):
Go, let's listen, may take your glasses.

Speaker 8 (01:48:35):
Off, make you.

Speaker 23 (01:48:37):
Away?

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Okay, Jimmy made a different Damn. I shouldn't have gone
to that one. Well done right, okay tunes sing along everyone,
and Happy Valentine's Day, Love you all, I.

Speaker 28 (01:48:50):
Love Struggling roomeal seeing the streets are there, and the
lean everybody, Lord, we love some man.

Speaker 18 (01:49:02):
The streets.

Speaker 4 (01:49:02):
The stepside of the sheet said something you and me
have about it?

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
Julia Head's Romeo. He need to give me a heart attack.
He's underneath the window.

Speaker 4 (01:49:19):
What sing he like my boyfriends?

Speaker 28 (01:49:23):
He shouldn't come around here singing up people like that.

Speaker 20 (01:49:28):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
What you're gonna do about it?

Speaker 28 (01:49:33):
Juliet, The Dykes was loaded from the star and I beg.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
Many ux loaded.

Speaker 29 (01:49:42):
In my house and I fuck I fucky.

Speaker 30 (01:49:48):
The movie song when if You're gonna realize it was
just the times wrong, Juliet, come up on different streets,

(01:50:10):
the boat, the streets a shame, both dirty, both mean yes,
And the dream.

Speaker 18 (01:50:16):
Was just the same.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
And I dream your dream for you, and now your
dream is real.

Speaker 28 (01:50:24):
How can you look at me as if I was
just another one of your deals?

Speaker 29 (01:50:28):
When you can fall the change of silver you can
fall the change of gold, and you can fall a
pretty stranger and the problems say you promised me everything
you promised me picking then you to say, oh yeah,
you know I used to have a scene wha damn, oh.

Speaker 28 (01:50:50):
Yeah, when I was made up.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
You used to cry said I love you, Mike.

Speaker 28 (01:50:57):
It stars about I.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
Love you to do like that.

Speaker 14 (01:51:00):
It's a place a.

Speaker 28 (01:51:05):
Song way you don't it. The time is wrong. I
can't do the talk like to talk on the TV,

(01:51:29):
and I can't do a lot of song like the
way he is man. I can't do everything what I'll
be way anything feel, don't do anything set be in
love with here.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
All I do is miss you and know where we
used to be.

Speaker 28 (01:51:51):
All I do is keep the beat the band company.
All I do is kiss you through the bars of
a rain. Sure you gotta get the stars with him
and he's talking when we neighbor gused to cry.

Speaker 30 (01:52:12):
I love you anything this starts about it.

Speaker 28 (01:52:15):
I love you, Jedi. Thats a fair.

Speaker 14 (01:52:21):
You know.

Speaker 28 (01:52:23):
When you're gonna realize.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
It was just the time to run June.

Speaker 28 (01:52:51):
Yeah, I love struck Romeo singing streets up save in
the way everybody go where they love some name May
buying the convenience street, steps out of the shade and said, somebody.

Speaker 7 (01:53:09):
You and me be.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
How bad.

Speaker 4 (01:53:26):
You and me?

Speaker 26 (01:53:26):
Babe?

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
How about it? Beautiful vests all the lovers. Well done
on Time's Day?

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Yeah, well done, Matt, can you feel the love Tailand
well that song goes on?

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
Didn't that? It's a pretty long.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Actually, yeah, Elvis would have been short and sharp. I'll
tell you it's three minutes fifteen would have been beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
But no, well done, Matt, Yeah, I thank you. Yeah.
So two to one, two to one, early days.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
All right, all right, coming up very shortly, we'll get
the rap of what you want to be watched in
sport Wise over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Darcy water Grave up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Next, the big stories, the big issues, the big trends
and everything in between.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort
news talks, there'd be on news Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Zibby good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
It is six to for almost the weekend and joining
us once again, Darcy water Grave.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Mates the recidivisturn. We love you that much.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
So what's on your watch list for the weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Sport Wise?

Speaker 26 (01:54:24):
I think a bit of Six Nations because this weekend
so I've been watching a wee bit of Six Nations.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
It's kind of a.

Speaker 26 (01:54:35):
Sick fascination just seeing what on Earth whales can do.
Now after fourteen on the bounce, I'm like, things have
got to turn around.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Such a great tournament though, isn't it just so simple?
Six nations play each other once and then you find
out who's best. It's so quick and simple.

Speaker 26 (01:54:50):
Well, that's not the champions trophy again. You've got the
best teams in the world. They play around robin, top two,
semi finalist and in a day and age. You need
to have a confusing situation the way you qualify.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Speaking watched Super Rugby, You'll be watching but of that
as well? Yeah, well what Super Rugby?

Speaker 28 (01:55:06):
That was something that was going on.

Speaker 26 (01:55:08):
Do you see that the Six Nations is going to
be fun. I'm not going to be watching any NRL
pre games because I tried really hard last week, but
there's just nothing on it. It's really hard to get
foods and engage when you know it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
What you're doing is hoping for a lack of injuries
precisely yet to my show too long. Yeah, yeah, I
have been. And the other thing. The other thing with
that is you'r you basically go. If we do really well,
if you're the Warriors fan, that's a bad omen. If
we do really badly, it's a bad open just omens everywhere.
You just don't want to know about it.

Speaker 26 (01:55:43):
So yeah, I'd be watching lots of Superdup and rugby
because I can't help myself.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
And how we got on tonight Crusaders, Hurricanes and what
was the other one?

Speaker 26 (01:55:52):
Highland Howland is taking on the war Retars and that
could be quite the display. Waratars have got big ups
on themselves, tickets on themselves, as they say, and with
guys like playing who is quite the freak of nature.
I get why people want to be watching that. The Islanders,

(01:56:12):
of course want today dismiss that if they will. Is
that two or three I've run and I've lost.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
That's two You're one lost town. You chip your Chiefs
Blues on Saturday night.

Speaker 26 (01:56:22):
Yeah, well, I think all Super Rugby just watch the
whole lot of it. So that kind of fills up
your weekend with a bit of six nations.

Speaker 7 (01:56:28):
Youeral gone.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
What about the cricket black Caps Pakistan? Is that the weekend?

Speaker 26 (01:56:32):
No, that's a few No, it starts at ten o'clock tonight,
so it ticks over, so come midnight, it's the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
You go, I'll watch that.

Speaker 26 (01:56:40):
I'll roll into your sport breakfast tomorrow morning with no sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Good idea, Thanks guy.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
Darzy, thank you mate. Have a great weekend. And that
is us for another week.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Yeah. They happy Valentine's every day. I love you, zul
and give them a taste of Kiwi.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
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