Full Show Podcast: 14 November 2024

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 14th of November - with the hikoi headed for Wellington, we ask if it's OK to take kids out of school to join a protest and when do you start talking to your kids about politics? 

Then we discuss the issue of Wellington Council digging up Thorndon Quay to redo recently completed roadworks.

And Tyler asks for advice on inflatable tents - can he trust them?

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
All right, welcome into the Mattin Tyler Podcast. Maddie was
away today. He was entertaining the good people of the
Air Force and Ohakia and having a ball of a time.
He sent through a photo of being in the cockpit
of one of the forced aircraft's done up. That was
a good idea. He was having a good time though.
But the show today had some great chat about kids
and politics. When do you start talking to your kids

(00:39):
about politics? How young is too young? Do you rip
him out of school? If the protest is right? That
was after one o'clock. That was a good chat, got
a bit gnarly. Then after two o'clock we talked about
compensation for businesses being mucked around by roadworks, as is
the case in Thornton, Key and Wellington. Then a massive
chat about inflatable tents. I wasn't convinced inflatable tents. When

(01:04):
you talk about, you know, tents that you've got to
pump up, sounds pretty flimsy to me. But I owe
my the amount of people that came through saying they
the best thing since sliced bread. Good chat anyway, We
will catch you again tomorrow, see you then.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty
four News Talk said, be good Afternoons.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You welcome into the show seven past one. I hope
you're doing well on this Thursday. No Matt Today he
is at Ohakia Airbase inspiring the next generation of acadets.
Can you believe that? But he's having a ball of
a time. He sent through a photo to all of us.
It looks like he's in the cockpit of some sort
of aircraft and he looks like a cat in the
candy store, massive smile on his face. He's having the

(01:51):
time of his life. He will be back tomorrow, so
don't worry about that. Will end the week in style.
But onto today's show. So I've got a bit of
a problem, and I'll talk more about why I've got
this problem after three o'clock. But through a series of
unfortunate events, the holiday home we had books had to
be canceled. We lost me and my partner made quite
a bit of money, but we are now having to

(02:13):
camp over the summer periods and I have found myself
looking for a tent. The tent we did have it
was an okay tent, but I did the stupid thing,
didn't clear it out properly and left some moisture in
there and it went moldy. I had to tuck the
thing out. But as I was looking for tents, everybody,
everybody are talking about inflatable tents and I don't know.

(02:35):
I don't know if I buy them. So I'd love
to hear from you about inflatable tents after three o'clock.
Are they all that they are cracked up to be?
To me? When I think about inflatable tents, I think flimsy,
it's going to blow away in a stiff breeze. Is
it really gonna cope if it starts barking down in
mid jan I'd love to hear from you on inflatable

(02:57):
tents after three o'clock. The text number nine two nine
to two. If you've gone inflatable? Why and are they awesome?
After two o'clock, construction crews have begun tearing up already
completed works on Thornton Key after the Wellington City Council
called for a rework of some sections. So Thornton Key,
as you may or may not know, leeds into the

(03:17):
Wellington CBD from the north and it is a hub
for home weares and furniture shops, among a range of
local businesses. So on Wednesday morning, those construction crews went
back and started tearing up an already completed section of
the project. Wolf Store Design Center owner Paul Robinson said,
just two months on from completing some of the work,
they were already changing it. He says, I quote, this

(03:38):
is utter madness, and I agree with him. And here's why.
The Wellington Council said that the rework was required as
the Council's Regulatory Process Committee decided to remove some of
the raised safety platforms. So they built these raised safety platforms,
how to change of heart then decided they needed to
remove them. That is madness, isn't it? For those businesses

(04:04):
in that area, they are now stuffed for god knows
how long a again they put up with the original
works had a completion date in sight, and boom counsels
coming back to dig it all up because they changed
their mind. So at that point I think they should
be compensated. And I know this argument about compensation when

(04:24):
it comes to road works. So geared's a bit tricky.
Can open up a can of worms, but when they've
stuffed up like this, they've changed their mind. That to
me is a mistake on the council's part. Those businesses
should be compensated. But keen to hear what you say
on that after two o'clock, because right now let's have
a chat about kids in politics. Associate Associate Education Minister
David Seymour is disappointed. He says some teachers have gone

(04:47):
against his advice and issued their own guidelines encouraging students
to skip school and join the hikoy. One school actively
encouraged it. Another said children who joined the hekoy would
have their absences logged as justified. So, David Seymour told
The Herald parents who took their kids out of school
to go on their hekkoy would have to explain their absences.
I quote. Any student who reaches a clearly defined threshold

(05:10):
of days absence will trigger an appropriate and proportionate response
from their school and the ministry. My expectation is that
schools will treat students protesting as explained but unjustified, Seymour said.
Now I do agree. I don't think it's appropriate for
schools to have a stance on protest one way or
the other, particularly at the primary level. Whatever that protest

(05:31):
may be, whether that's the Hikoy climate marches or groundswell,
doesn't matter. But what I want to talk to you
about is when is the right age to talk to
kids about politics? At what point do you want them
to start thinking for themselves, making up their own mind
about that, how they feel about the big issues the
world around them? Do you talk to your kids about politics?

(05:52):
And at what age? For many parents, I think there
may be a sense of pride in their child if
they are showing some competency and passion on a big
social issue. You may think that there's some big holes
in their rationale and world view. And at that point
did you bring that up at the dinner table? Political

(06:13):
debate within a family I think can be healthy, can
be you don't want to let it get too far.
I remember a teacher telling us as kids, I would
have been eight primary school level. They asked with this
particular teacher asked us to go home and ask our
parents who they were going to vote for because there
was election coming up and as an eight year old,

(06:35):
I had no idea why he wanted us to ask
our parents this. I'm sure there was a lesson in
there somewhere, but what I do recall vividly is going
home talking to Dad and said, hey, Dad, teacher wanted
me to ask you who you're going to vote for.
And Dad's response was, it's none of your teacher's business
who I'm going to vote for. I will tell you,
but don't you tell your teacher who I'm going to

(06:56):
vote for. But that sparks something in me instantly as
an eight year old, I'm thinking, well, clearly this is
quite important. Dad got a bit upset when I asked
him that. So clearly politics adults are caring about it
for a reason. But love to hear from you on
this one. Kids in politics do they mix a lot
of people are quite uncomfortable when you see these big protests,

(07:18):
whatever the protest may be, and you see the pictures
on Taly, and you see these kids holding placards, and
their young kids, and you start to wonder, do they
really understand what this is all about? Do they understand
what that placard is that they're holding. Sometimes I feel
that that's just emotional manipulation that they've been dragged along

(07:38):
to these protests and they don't really understand, but keen
to hear from you on this. One oh eight, one
hundred eighty, ten eighty is the number to call. Nine
two ninety two is the text number. It is thirteen
past one.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Mat Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you
for twenty twenty four US talks dead be news.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Talks, there'd be It is sixteen past one. Kids in politics?
At what age are you okay with talk to your
kids about politics, whatever stance they may take. And we
know children tend to lean towards the left side of
big social issues. But this is on the back of
two schools that will one actively encourage their kids to

(08:22):
take part in this hikoy. Another said that if they
did attend this hikoy with their parents, their absences would
be listed as justified. And if we take the hrkoy
slightly out of the equation, whatever protest is going on,
whether it is this hikoy or a climate march or groundswell,

(08:45):
is it appropriate to take young children to those protests?
Love to hear from you. Oh eight, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call, Sundra. How
are you?

Speaker 4 (08:56):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm good? What's your view on this?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
So to start off with, I grew up in politics.
My dad was in the local council and highly involved
in national elections of support for what was Social credit
back then in the Ring of Pickie. So I grew
up in politics. It was discussed very frerely and openly
growing up. As I grew up, I also ran for

(09:20):
local council but I didn't get in, but really happy.
I brought up my kids always talking about politics. Of
me and my three kids, we all vote for different
parties and we talk about it. And it's the local
American elections. We had two for Kamala Harris and the
family and two for Trump.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Down the middle.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
I lost, so you know who I voted for. The
bet was if if they were whoever, one had to
buy each other tea. I had to buy my son tea.
Last night he wore a Beanie Mega hat Beanie which
made me laugh and we discussed it. We talked about it.
So it is something that as a family I grew

(10:05):
up with my kids have grown up with. It's been
pretty open. It can get a little heats of at times,
but it never divides us.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, and I think that's healthy. Sandra. You know, there's
always been this kind of social rule that's left unspoken
a lot of the time that you never talk about
politics and the family home. But I disagree with that.
I think that is important. But I suppose the hang
up I have there at what age do you bring
your kids into that conversation? For you, did you have
an age where you thought, right, I can talk with

(10:36):
my kids now about these big social issues.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
No, I think because for me, I grew up always
hearing it. I was always aware of it growing up.
So my kids were also aware of it growing up
because my dad being on council. They grew up seeing
that and hearing it, so they knew from a very
very young age they knew all about it. So it
was nothing that they were necessarily introduced to. It's always

(11:03):
been part of their life, as it was always part
of my life, So it was it was just part
of our life.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Did your appearance and you mentioned that you came from
a very political family when you grew up, did your
parents try and convince you to vote a certain way,
to lean towards a seventh No.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
No, And I haven't done the same with my kids.
I know which by my kids vote that.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
No.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
My parents were very involved with Grace Faith and social
credits me my age that they. I never grew up
being told this is who I should vote for or
how I should be once Social credit really wasn't so
much the same in the Ring of Turkey. I don't
actually could tell you who my parents voted for. Yeah,

(11:55):
I could not tell you. With me and my kids, you.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Know, we do a lot of We do a lot
of talking.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
And a lot of sensive memes and joking and stuff
and harassing each other slightly. But it isn't good fun.
It's never to the point of trying to so upset
the other person. We stopped speaking.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
We don't go that fast.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
So, Sandra, and sorry to jump in there. But if
one of your children, and I take it, they're a
bit older, now are they, if you're discussing us politics
and the nuances, Yeah, when they were a bit younger,
let's say they were in the early stages of high school,
so thirteen fourteen. If there was a big issue that
they were passionate about, and there was some sort of
protest action happening, and they came to you and said, Mum,

(12:44):
we want to get out of school to attend this
because it means a lot to us. What would you
have said to them, Oh, it's just go for it.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I would have I would have probably offered to go
with them if I could have that. If it was
something that they was that passionate about, I definitely would
have been supportive.

Speaker 8 (13:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, great to chat with you, Sandra, Thanks very much
for kicking us off. What what did they buy for
for dinner?

Speaker 9 (13:09):
Why?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Or you had to buy dinner?

Speaker 10 (13:11):
What did you have?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Would you buy?

Speaker 6 (13:13):
So?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
He hoped? My son's hope, but of chicken?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Nice? Nice, very good.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, the chicken last night and he wore his Naga
beanie which made me laugh. And fair enough he gets
to have he gets to have bragging rights for the
next four years.

Speaker 11 (13:31):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (13:32):
So that fair enough.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's ye can't tuggle with that.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well hopefully they well, hopefully in four years time you'll
be able to pick the dinner.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Oh I'm hoping absolutely in four years time we will
have another bet and when it gets bragging rights, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, Soandra, thank you very much for giving us a bus.
Love that chat. Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty Love to hear from you as well on this.
If you're a parent, do you talk to your children
about politics? If they are passionate about social issues, and
in the age of social media, it must be real
hard for them to be shielded from a lot of
these issues and they might not understand it completely. At

(14:13):
what point do you sit them down and have a
chat and do you try and stay objective diplomatic around
those issues to encourage them to think for themselves. Love
to hear from you. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine two nine two is the text number. It
is twenty two past one.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 13 (14:34):
You can hold the presses. Because the government has released
a new framework for public private partnerships and the Labor
Party is on board with its infrastructure mister Christmas ship
is with us. The relevance of having Labor on board
how significant.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
We are bit surprived by and please buy it.

Speaker 14 (14:49):
I'm trying to build greater.

Speaker 15 (14:50):
By partisanship around infrastructure because that's what the country desperately needs.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Why are we no good at them? Well, we're not
good at them because.

Speaker 15 (14:56):
I would argue that we haven't developed sufficient expertise inside
the Crown to make sure that the government is a
is a good client on our side of it. And
that's one of the things we're changing with the development
of this new National Infrastructure Agent.

Speaker 13 (15:09):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Made These Real Estates News Talk zaid, be good afternoon
twenty five past one.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Would you let your kids leave school for some sort
of protest action, whatever that protest action is. This is
on the back of two schools that we know about.
One was okay or actively encourage its kids to join
the hecoy with their parents, and another said that if
they were absent and they joined the hecoy, then it

(15:38):
would be labeled as a justified absence. David Seymour isn't
happy about that. But when it comes to children and politics,
have you ever been in a position and there be
a lot of people out there on the back of
those climate strikes, the school strikes for climate there was
several of them, very controversial. If your child came to
you and said mum, Dad, I care about the climate

(16:01):
and I'm going to Ditch school to join this protest
with my fellow students. What did you say, Oh, eight,
one hundred eighty is the number to call, Tony? How
are you hi?

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Tyer Tyler.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
I think if the teachers spent as much time teaching
the kids to read and write and then they would
understand what was written on the placards, then they would
understand why they were instead of, you know, going out
on political what is simply political activism by the teachers

(16:34):
union that half these kids have no idea. Half the
people you listen to, you I've seen on TV don't
even understand what the bill is all about. Whilst it
refers to the Treaty and no one is disagreeing with
the treaty and it will never change theirs. The bill purpose,

(16:56):
as I see it, is to cut down on political
activism by judges and the Bowery Court and such like
were interpreting the treaty. The treaty is the treaty is
a treaty.

Speaker 16 (17:09):
It is what it says.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But Tony, you've clearly got a firm opinion on this issue,
and that's a good thing. But when it comes to
children being involved in not just this hiccoy and this issue,
but issues in general. And you can pick whatever issue
you like. I mean, look on the other side of
the coin groundswell. For example, farmers were deeply un'nhappy with
the labor government and there was a lot of reasons

(17:31):
for that, and they had a lot of general support.
But there were children at that protest. Was that appropriate?

Speaker 5 (17:36):
But the children then that case are in fact probably
well educated, being farmer's kids at good schools in the country.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
But also.

Speaker 12 (17:47):
They are directly.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Involved because they live and work on the farm themselves
as children. Children from farms actually work as children and
they're not at school.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
But if it was something like just for an example,
and I hear what you're saying, Tony, and this is
a good chat. But for example, if they were holding
a placard about the unfairness of emissions and the carbon legislation,
that is complicated legislation For a six year old to
be holding a plant card up about.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
No, I think, yeah, that's fairly easy. Every everyone knows
that the climate. Climate changes every mani seconds of time
and has done since living and breathing creatures started sticking
in oxygen as they were at the planet evolved.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
But again, Tony, you're an adult and you've read up
on these various policies and you've firmed an opinion based
on what you've read. But we're talking about children here,
and the appearents their parents have a firm view on
those policies and those politics. But when it comes to
their own carrying.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Children on farms are learning from basically when they can
open their eyes, they see animals born quite often, they
possibly when they're a little bit old, to see animals
killed for food. It was sent off to the works
they live or school. But anyway, you and I were

(19:14):
both schoolboys at one touch stage, and any excuse for
heart for an afternoon, not for any sort of alaricanism, yeah,
would be sent to know with open arms.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well not by my parents. That wouldn't have been Tony,
And you know I haven't mentioned that, and I was
going to, but you know, I can I can say
pretty confidently that if there was some sort of issue
going on at the time and I said to my parents,
say I'm going to bunk Off school to join this,
they would have said, like, Hellia, you were kind.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Of school we were a bit smart as well. I
don't know about you, but we were a bit smarter
where we were kids. You always found a good excuse
to be not at school, and this was a good one.
We're learning would be the answer that springs to mind
in my time.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Tony, you're a good man. Always love chatting with you.
Oh e one hundred and eighty, teen eighty. Love to
hear from you on this conversation, particularly if you're a
parent of a child that is starting to talk about
these things. And as I mentioned before, was social media
pretty hard to shield children from these issues, particularly if
that teenagers. Have you had a situation where your teenager
has come to you and said, I want to bunk
off school to join a particular protest action.

Speaker 16 (20:16):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty as the number to
call it is bang on hap pass one.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Jus talk said the headlines.

Speaker 17 (20:24):
With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.
The hikoi protesting the bill is moving south through y
katur Nzta. WARN's traffic will be effected on State Highway
one through t Do until three in Gisbon. A separate
hikoy traveling from Hairpippie Park to teporho at Our Weirdy

(20:44):
Muddy will affect traffic around Wainui Rode from four this afternoon.
About two hundred unionists and rail workers are marching in Wellington,
fairing the government will privatize cook Straight ferries and asking
it to commit to rail enabled vessels. Energy Resources Al
says the government venturing into supercritical geothermal technology for extracting

(21:08):
energy as a potential game changer. Canterrib University is vowing
to ensure student care is up to scratch after unsafe
preparation of shredded chicken made more than one hundred living
in halls sick reports. Milania Trump isn't planning to move
back to live in the US capital Washington for her
second round as First Lady. Why every country has its

(21:31):
role to play and climate change battle. See the full
column at ends in Herald Premium. Back to Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Thank you very much, ray Lean. It is twenty six
to two and we're talking about kids and politics. This
is on the back of the Hekoy which is currently
taking place. Two schools one actively encouraged their children to
take part in the Hekoy if their parents were attending.
Another said if a child did attend this particular protest action,
their absence would be labeled as justified. That has upset

(22:01):
David Seymour. But we have been talking about a broader
conversation about what age is it appropriate for children and
to start learning, talking, taking a position on politics, whatever
way they decide to go. And with the emergence of
social media, very very difficult to shield children away from
big political issues. So what age do you start having

(22:23):
a chat with them and do you try and stay
objective and let them make up their own mind. Love
to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Kreen,
how are you?

Speaker 11 (22:32):
I'm good, Thank you. I'm just really really upset about
taking I've got two young children, yeah, in primary school. Now,
I wouldn't take them out of school. I've got too
much currency in this country anyway. But the thing is
that these kids are just kids. They don't understand what's

(22:52):
really going on. They'll hear their mum and dad talk
to benow men and they'll go, oh, what's that?

Speaker 18 (22:59):
And they learn.

Speaker 11 (23:01):
As they grow, but they don't understand what this whole
thing is about. So there's hrcy is coming from Auckland
down to Wellington so they have the ones an Awks,
they can their whole kids out of school for how long?
I think it's just absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well look, I tend to agree with you Kieran. When
it comes to primary school children. Does that equation start
to change if they are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old?

Speaker 11 (23:28):
Yeah, a little bit different, I think. But you see,
you know, than these young kids. And it just breaks
my heart because they really don't know, you know, and
all kids want to do with the play and now
they don't understand politics. They can see things and then
you're stuck in their head, you know, because it was

(23:50):
a lot of big sponge they really are, so when
they are going for these hikoy and you know, I've
got lovely Met Murray friends and stuff right there. But
sometimes it's just a little bit overcool. I think just
come back to a little bit it and just look
at everybody in New Zealand. We're not just Marrows, but

(24:15):
all here is tea week.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Do you talk to your children about various social issues?

Speaker 8 (24:22):
Uh?

Speaker 18 (24:23):
Well yeah I do, Like, yeah, how would I'll put it?

Speaker 11 (24:30):
You know, I'll always be there to listen to what
they had to say, or they had a bad day
at school, social issues, the social media, it's a different story.

Speaker 19 (24:44):
It is very hard.

Speaker 11 (24:44):
But I will never get my child a cell phone.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
How old are your children's sorry Karen, sorry? How old
are your children?

Speaker 11 (24:58):
Seven?

Speaker 19 (24:59):
And nine?

Speaker 20 (24:59):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, that that is too young and in my view
and a lot of other people's view for a cell phone.
But just you know, if your nine year old came
you and there was a lot of action over in
the US during the the election, clearly that was everywhere.
But if your nine year old came up, jin said,
you know, what's going on over them? I'm or I've
read seen something on social media. I know they don't
have a phone, but they might have been told something. Yeah,

(25:23):
I saw something on TV. And what's all this pilavor?
And why people are why are people getting so upset
or over this thing? Is that a difficult conversation to
have with a nine year old.

Speaker 11 (25:33):
I'll just say, oh, it's all right down, you know,
I go just having an election and some people disagree
and I don't disagree. Yeah, you know, And you know
when I was growing up, you know, I heard two
sides of the family. One was labor, one was national,
but we didn't fight about it at all, and I
was really protected from that as well, and we just

(25:55):
didn't discuss that they everybody had their views and we've
didn't criticize it.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well, I'm just thinking of my own situation here, and
it's it was similar to yours. Is that my dad,
I believe, voted differently. And when we would have I
would have a conversation with Dad and he would give
me information about something that was happening in the news
that was the issue of the day, and then when
I have a chat with Mum, she would have an

(26:24):
opposite view of that particular issue. And to me, that
was a good thing because that lead me, as a
young teenager to think, well, neither of you guys really
agree on this thing. So clearly there's a bit more
to this, and hopefully once I got a bit older,
well clearly I did. I started making up my own
mind about how I thought about those things when.

Speaker 11 (26:42):
I was a teenager, not when I was in primary
school or you know, so you learn as you go
and you think all of a sudden, you think, what's
all that about? Well, why is the selection happening? And
then you know your peers will sit down and talk
to you a little bit about it. But I just
think taking kids out are school so much. Trump say,

(27:02):
you know that's education system.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Just yeah, I know, yeah, No, Kieren, thank you very much. Sorry,
we've got the kind of a couple of air brakes
we need to get away. But thank you very much
for your phone call. Really enjoyed that. It is twenty
one minutes to two. We'll get to more of your
calls very shortly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Call your new.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Home of afternoon Tour and Taylor Adams Afternoon call. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Very very good afternoon to you. It's eighteen to two, Peter,
good afternoon.

Speaker 12 (27:39):
Hey, Tyla.

Speaker 21 (27:40):
I took my fifteen year old girl down to Parliament
Grounds during the occupation. The head down there one from
the point of showing her that this is her right
to piece of peacefully protest and to show her that

(28:00):
what she's watching on TV is not necessarily what's going
on on the site. So she was apprehensive apprehensives at
first about going up to the very front where or
the action was, so to speak. But once we left
she realized that it wasn't what their media was reporting.

(28:21):
You know, there was different different fractions within the group
there that were trouble makers, other people that was people.
And I just believe that is really important for her
as a young child that's growing up, that this is
your right as a New Zealander to peacefully protest your opinion,

(28:43):
and regardless of what side she decides to follow when
she becomes an adult at the post of the school,
I disagree with them pulling or allowing kids to go
out a protest unless it's the whole school that's going
and they're in the uniform, if they wear uniforms. But

(29:06):
it will never happen because as you know, they have
to ask for permission, slips, and they're always asking for
parent help, and they don't have enough stuff to do it.
So yeah, no, I shouldn't be allowed out unless it's
the whole school or the whole year group going together.
None not just starting to go to McDonald's or the beach.

(29:28):
They need to go together, you know, ye are they
going to do it? Do it right? Don't do it
yeah fast?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
And I think that sound logic. And on your first point, Peter,
was that because you're your thirteen year old asked you
to take her down there, or she was asking a
lot of questions about what was going on and you decided, well,
we need to go and have a look.

Speaker 21 (29:48):
No, she was getting the wrong with you, right. She
was seeing a social media side that was wasn't painting
the full picture, and and a lot of it like
she knows where I belong politically and being a blended family,
it's I'm the only one that thanks for us, so
we she started asking questions was after that, and it

(30:11):
was more so on the point of the double all
the double name showed the English Moldi name together and
they were trying to kill the Maldi language. And I
had to explain, no, one, I'm not trying to kill
the Maori language. So they're just trying to use two names.
And then you actually go research, you'll see that they

(30:31):
have no intensions of killing the Maori language. But it's
all what she was seeing from her perspective, and it's
no different to an adult seen it from their perspective.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean it's slight. Oh clearly, it's a it's
a different issue. But if she was asking questions about
what was going on, with this hikoy in this March
and they're going to be in Wellington, is it today
or certainly in the next couple of days. And she said,
I want to go down and see what this is about.
Would you take it.

Speaker 21 (30:58):
Down if it's outside the school? Yeah, not a brom.
I think the schooling is more important. Now I'm saying
that her mother's Molly, their older sisters, they will probably
join the Ekoi. And if she's with her mother and
other older sisters, then I'm not gonna. I'm not going

(31:22):
to kick up a fuss us she's worth a parent
and I'm not going to be happy with it, but
you know that's what they feel strongly in, so I'm
gonna I'm going to back that up. I'm not I
might not agree with it, but they're doing what they
were writers in their mind to to peacefully protests.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
So do you sound like a real good dad?

Speaker 9 (31:47):
Peter?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Thank you very much for giving us a buzz. Colleen,
how are you?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Hi?

Speaker 22 (31:53):
Hi, I've got some I'm looking after three grandchildren and
two of them arrived at me. One is twelve and
one is forty, And then you know, little politics sort
of came out. I was absolutely amazed at how much
they knew about politics. They were well versed in the subject.

(32:16):
The one thing that really came to mind was they
were totally dissolutions with politics of today. They you know,
they were sort of versed by their parents and deft
wind politics, but they were totally upset it disonder and
what what happened there. They didn't like. They didn't like

(32:36):
national because that's to do with rich people. So they're
more or less, from what I gathered with them and
their friends, they're more or less forming their own political
ideas at the moment. It's very very interesting listening to them.
They really know about the subjects.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
What age that one one was twelve?

Speaker 22 (33:02):
Mine was fourteen when I got them, and so like I,
I guess they've been looking online, working things up for themselves.
I've stayed very politically neutralism because I've finally for their
views very quite fascinating. Actually, I've I've taken them into

(33:26):
various things. Last week I gotten me and a whole
lot of other people who were anti Trump got invited
to a Trump party which had some fairly high earning
right when people at it.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Ye names Colleen, but yep, I get your point.

Speaker 23 (33:48):
I'm not.

Speaker 16 (33:50):
Yet carry on, I'm not necessary.

Speaker 22 (33:54):
And it was very very interesting that listening to what
was going on. I put my grandkids to it, and
there's some of them, you know, a couple of them
were cringing when it was coming very clear that Trump was, well,

(34:14):
I can why they do it in the weekend and
there is a city at because they're not walking between
the cities, you know, they just formed these different cities.
Why they have to do it in school times. It's
totally against what I believe in.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
But to your first point, and that's very valid, Colin,
But to your first points, is it about once they
reach a certain age? And now I suppose that's the
reason why we're talking about this, but say the fourteen
year old at that point, to me, it's probably appropriate
to maybe question why they think a certain way about
a social issue. Where did they get that information from?

(34:56):
And that's not to sway them, that's to make them
still think about the information that they're getting and have
that critical eye to forming their opinion.

Speaker 22 (35:06):
They definitely got those ideas from these school from people talking.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
Right.

Speaker 22 (35:16):
Some of their ideas are.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
Really really good.

Speaker 22 (35:18):
So they're so politically appearance, it's quite amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, Colleen, thank you very much. Lovely to chat. It
is ten to two. Oh e one hundred and eighty.
Ten eighty is number to call. We'll have time for
a couple more phone calls well, quick text to the break, Actually, Tyler,
awesome for kids to be politically active as long as
it's fair. I hope next time I want to take
my kid out of school to support what would traditionally

(35:42):
be a right wing cords the scored market is justified
as well. That is my problem with the whole thing.
Keep those taps coming through on nine to nine to two.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
It is ten to two, Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking
your calls on oh eight hundred and eighty.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Mad Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Afternoons news talks be seven to two. Charyl, how are you.

Speaker 24 (36:04):
I'm well, Thanks Tyler. This is an interesting topo, the
one that I've got my views on. I think if
very much depends on the child and their understanding of
the issue at hand in some cases, so I don't

(36:25):
know if you remember, I'm one of the co founders
of Fate Free Kids, so I can use my experience
as part of that organization as an example. But I've
encountered when we presented a petition to Parliament, you wouldn't
really call that a protest.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
It was an event.

Speaker 24 (36:42):
It was an event around the presentation of that petition.
A lot of people came and a lot of those
were I'm a Tati or young people, teenagers, and they
were very well across the issue at hand. They were
experiencing the impact of that issue in school.

Speaker 11 (37:00):
And my own son was there, and as.

Speaker 24 (37:03):
A parent, I did take him out of school to
come and be part of that event, and because it
was extremely relevant to him. The alternative was that he
was going to be in school where a whole lot
of disruption of his education was happening as a result
of said issue, and so I found it was extremely
relevant and I advocated to the school that it was

(37:26):
going to be much as an unjustified ebsence, and I said, well,
if it has to be, it has to be, but
here is my justifications for it. And right through We've
had many, many times we've been at Parliament, whether it's
a help Select committee briefing or a hearing or making submissions,
and we've seen a lot of impressive young people that

(37:47):
have a really good understanding of the issue and are
really keen to be part of democracy. And I think
that is what is happening in terms of you know,
other hcoy and movements for various issues we underestimate to
young people. I think, well, a lot of the callers
I've heard seen too, get that there are other platforms

(38:11):
that our young people take their news from. I know
that when it comes to the Treaty Principled Bill, there's
a number of TikTok accounts, for example, that have really
good breakdowns so that young people can can consume it
and understand it and form an opinion. So I think

(38:33):
we shouldn't assume that they just fear for I think
one of them for some Americanism. I think one of
your other previous callers called it.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
We can't assume that, and I you what you're saying, Cheryl,
But just on the I mean when you mentioned TikTok,
and I get your point, and there are some very
clever young people out there, no doubt about it. But
when you bring social media into the mix, and it
can be incredibly one sided, and there's nefarious information on
those social media platforms, and that's what worries me. But
I get your point about as long as a kid

(39:01):
or children have that critical lie on the big issues
and they can think for themselves, and that's a good thing.
But just quickly, and we've only got thirty seconds. If
your son and you brought them along and clearly the
issue that you're talking about, the vast majority of New
Zealanders agree with you when it comes to vaping and
children and the number of ape stores. But if he
said to you, if he came to you and said, actually, Mum,

(39:22):
I think it's freedom of choice, would you allow him
to have that opinion or would you try and convince
some otherwise?

Speaker 24 (39:29):
Well, no, it's illegal, but that particular issue for children, Yes, no,
I respect his informed opinions. Because just to go back
to your point about the skewed social media social media
as media.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Now, yeah, absolutely, Cheryl, thank you very much. Wish we
could carry that on. But good discussion. Another one after
two o'clock.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
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Speaker 2 (40:00):
Zebby Good Afternoons. You welcome back into the show. Just
me Sila Today Matts is inspiring. The next generation of
Air Force personnel at Ohakia and they'll be absolutely loving
him that. He'll be back on the show tomorrow to
see out the week in star and good discussion over
the last hour. We're going to change it up over

(40:21):
the next hour or so. I want to talk about roadworks,
and this is roadworks in the Capitol in Wellington. So
construction crews have begun tearing up already completed roadworks on
Thornton Key. This is after the Wellington City Council called
for a rework in quotation marks of some sections. So
Thornton Key, as you may or may not know, leeds
into the Wellington CBD from the north and it is

(40:43):
a hub for home weares and finisher shops, among a
range of other local businesses. So on Wednesday morning, these
construction crews went back to tear up an already completed
section of that project. Wall Store Design Center owner. He's
one of the businesses affected by these works, Paul Robinson.
He said, just two months on from completing that work,

(41:04):
they were already changing it. He said, I quote, this
is utter madness and I tend to agree with them.
A Wellington Council, Wellington City Council rather spokesperson said the
rework was required as the Council's Regulatory Process Committee decided
to remove some of the raised safety platforms. Now that

(41:26):
is madness, isn't it. A change of heart over some
raised safety platforms means those businesses are stuffed again for
god knows how long they put up with the works,
had a completion data in sight, and Bang Council says
we've changed our mind. We don't like the raise safety
platforms anymore. We're coming back to change it and sorry,

(41:48):
you're going to miss out on some more foot traffic.
So here's what I want to talk about. Compensation for
businesses around these sort of projects. Now, I know this
has been banding banded about for a long time when
it comes to roadworks interrupting and interfering with businesses, and
that can open up a can of worms. It can

(42:09):
get very tricky and complicated. But in this situation where
they've gone back because of a change of heart about
raised safety platforms, at that point, I say they absolutely
should be compensating the businesses. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety
two is the text. Because I think most.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
Of us.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Can understand the need for progress in cities to some extent,
and I know Wellington has been a basket case for
a long time. We all understand that. But when they
have to go back in and tear up already completed work,
when it is crushing these businesses, that to me is
deeply unfair and a smack in the face to those businesses.

(42:59):
And when we hear these stories again and again and
again about businesses being interrupted by roadworks, we can get
a little bit outside the frame of what it actually
means to those businesses. What they went through to set
that up, the blood's wet in tears, what they had
to put on the line, the amount of hours that
they put in setting up those businesses. For councils to

(43:23):
turn around do the road works, they lose the foot
traffic and what is already a tough economic climate, and
then change their minds and dig it back up for
another couple of months that they're not going to have
that foot traffic going through that area. These are people's livelihoods.
That is why it's so deeply unfair when you break

(43:44):
it down to the personal level. I so feel for
these guys, these businesses, because that is their livelihood. That
is what they have dedicated hours and hours of their lives,
setting up at great risk to themselves quite often, and
it just seems these are flippant decisions by in this
case the council. So love to hear from you on this.

(44:07):
One oh eight one hundred and eighty is the number
to call. Nine two nine two is the text number
if you want to send me an email. More than
welcome Tyler at Newstalk ZB dot co dot nz. Let's
get into it. It is eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
You're on new home of Afternoon Talk and Heathen Tyler
Adams Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said,
be very.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Good, afternoon due fourteen past two, and we're talking about
compensation for businesses affected by roadworks. And these aren't the
initial roadworks. This is on the back of a story
out of Wellington Thornton Key, so the council has gone
back and decided. So they were already doing roadworks there
and it was affecting the businesses and most of the
businesses by all accounts, we're sucking it up and say, okay,
not great, but we've got a deadline in sights and

(44:52):
we hopefully will get through it. But now the council
has decided they didn't like the raise safety platform so
have gone back or sent the contractors back to dig
it back up. And businesses quite rightly say this is
utter madness. That's a direct quote from Willstore Design Centerna
Paul Robinson, whose businesses is deeply affected by these roadworks.
And I say, when it's this situation, the council has

(45:14):
changed their mind about the raise safety platforms or whatever
it may be, and go back and rip it all
up for another couple of months. At that point, that's
a stuff up. That's a big mistake and they should
compensate those businesses. But what do you say, Oh, one
hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call, Paul.
What do you think.

Speaker 25 (45:31):
Who pays the compensation?

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Tyler?

Speaker 17 (45:33):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
This is yeah, this is where it's going to get interesting, Paul.
Because the Wellington Wellington Council stuff up, it's going to
come from ratepayers.

Speaker 25 (45:43):
So maybe we should have a system in place where
these pounds that are making these decisions and that's all
you can call them as clowns held responsible for some
of them, maybe they'd think twice about it. Before they
actually made the decision.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah, well yeah, because this is all about accountability, right.
This is what upsets so so many people is when
these stuff ups happen. And this is clearly a stuff up.
This is a mistake that they changed their mind and
they should have thought about that properly when they knew
they were going in to do these roadworks and it
was going to screw a lot of these businesses. But
when it comes to that accountability, what are you talking
about heads rolling? People losing their jobs or it comes

(46:19):
out of their paycheck.

Speaker 25 (46:23):
They should lose their jobs. I'm the bilder. If I
building your house and I put the slab in the
wrong place, who pays for that?

Speaker 21 (46:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (46:33):
I mean it has to stop.

Speaker 23 (46:35):
Tyler.

Speaker 25 (46:35):
We just well, we're treated as if we were an
ATM machine.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, yeah, I suppose that. I mean the argument with
this particular situation, it was a council committee and we
know who are on those committees. Paul is the councilors.
So when we talk about sacking the council as well,
there's a Crown observer in there. Now say never, say never,
But that's you know, when the people in Wellington get
to the next election. I'm sure there's going to be

(47:02):
big changes in that council.

Speaker 25 (47:05):
Well, there needs to be. I I'm involved in quite
a lot of committees, and I always find that generally
people that want to go on committees and tell everyone
how they should and shouldn't first stuff to be the
people that have the list amount of knowledge. Yeah you yes,

(47:27):
it's even like one point two million dollars for a
Christmas tree and lookment who's actually checked to make sure
that's for kosher?

Speaker 21 (47:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, Well we did talk about that a little bit
earlier this week, and yep, clearly a lot of controverts
around there. That one was harder because it's Christmas. You know,
it's a Christmas tree, and that becomes a little bit
harder as it becomes a motive and kids love Christmas
and all that. But I get your point, and that's
the lot of tecks we got through saying how does
this keep happening again and again and again that these

(47:56):
as you say, it's like an ATM machine, And we
just feel like the councils and the governments to a
lesser extent, but certainly they have in the past, are
not making sound financial decisions because they feel they don't
have to.

Speaker 25 (48:09):
Well, they need to be dragged into line because at
the end of the day, mate, they have got the
best of the expertise available to them if they need
to get consultancy or whatever, and maybe they should get
the stuff here reviewed and then they don't make these
colossal How can you actually do that work and then
when it's finished say, oh, hell there was a mistake.

(48:33):
It's madness mate.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, But just going back to the compensation aspect, and
I get your point about sacking them and a lot
of the people that decided they wanted to remove these
raised safety platforms after deciding they were a good idea
of counselors and their time may or may not come
during the next election. But when it comes to compensation
from rates, how do you feel about that? My stance, Paul, genuinely,
as a ratepayer in christ Church, if this situation happened

(48:56):
in christ Church and a business was going under because
it was a council stuff up, I would be okay
with some of my rates going to that business because
I can see the unfair nature of it. Yes, it's
going to cost me as a ratepayer, but I would
be okay with it going to that business because I
can see that's a business that is going to crumble
through no fault of their own.

Speaker 25 (49:17):
Yes, they do need compensation, no doubt about it. But
you know, at the end of the day, you've got
to stop being the ones that had paid the compensations
because we're not the ones that are making these mistakes.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, Paul, always great to chat mate. Thank you very much, David.
How are you, yah, Tyler?

Speaker 10 (49:36):
I hope to get your Christmas camping thing sorted it
out before Christmas.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well, the inflatable tents turned out. Man, you should have
seen the text machine and the emails I've got with suggestions.
I wasn't wrong. People are loving the inflatable tents. But
we'll get to that alf to three o'clock David.

Speaker 10 (49:52):
Yes, okay, Look, it's reprehensible that the compensation should not
be paid, and it's obvious that the Paul retailers have
been barely trees have. But look, just the slightly wider
issue is that, as you be aware of the Simeon
Brown has appoints an observer right to the council and

(50:16):
there's a lot of discussion on talkback radio with Neck
Mills that that's not enough, it should have been a
commissioner because the council officers, the not the Council laws,
you know, the bearucrats who advised the council we were
supposed to have made major stuffs up. There's just one
of many taking up the road again, and it's the

(50:43):
observed just observes, and he just observes the council. It's nuts.
He should have gone much further. A commissioner could go
deep inside the council and root out the dead wood
and the bad wood. And just one final example the
bedwood is the advice that the bearacrats gave to Council
Laws about this whole rabbit whole thing of selling the

(51:05):
airport chairs.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
May it may still go to the point, David, you know,
step one is the Crown observer. And the Crown observer
gets in there and starts to have a look around
and assess the situation and the books and the behavior
of counselors. And if he reports back to Simon Brown
that all is not well and this is far more
serious than originally thought, then it may end up being
commissioners appointed.

Speaker 10 (51:26):
Yes, I think a lot of people would have a
party on that, you know, on the mega hats.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Maybe well, I'll find out how long it's going to
take for the Crown Observer to report back to Simeon
Brown and see if I can find that information out,
because yeah, look, we all know that the Crown Observer
was the least egregious option in terms of well that
was the light touch, right, But that's only step one,

(51:53):
and his job is to report back to Simmy and
Brown at some stage about his what he's observed, and
if he doesn't like what he's observed, or he sees
behavior within that council that is deeply disturbing, then the
next step is Commissioner's.

Speaker 10 (52:06):
Clearly he hasn't told you apparently has to report back
by July, which is months and months away. You know,
if they're going to be tearing up roads and he's
poor retailers, you know, they're really suffered, and all the
interests of cyclists. It's predicted the year twenty thirty four,
that's going to be four thousand cyclists on along thorns

(52:26):
and key. Well, I'd love to see the mathematics behind
that prediction, but you be I want hold you up.
It's he should have seen in a more thorough investigation
a commission.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
That's just fair enough and just quickly, David, you don't
ever spe a holiday home and moral sounds to you.

Speaker 10 (52:45):
I do actually.

Speaker 21 (52:47):
Like Cargo Bay.

Speaker 10 (52:48):
I think you and I've talked about you're like Cargo Bay.
That's your head.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Oh maybe maybe, And you have a chat off here
because I'll mention after three what happened. But it was
a bit of a bit of a pilava. But David
always good to chat to you mate. It is twenty
two past two. Back of the mine.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams dudes call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Good afternoon mattaway today, but he's back tomorrow to finish
the week in style. And we are talking about roadworks
in the capitol. In this instance there was roadworks being
completed or nearing completion in Thornton Key. The council have
changed their mind about a particular part of those roadworks,
raised safety platforms and have gone back and dug it
back up. And businesses are crying out saying this is

(53:34):
utter madness. They are struggling. The end was in sight
and now they're back to almost square one. So does
he need to be compensation. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is a number to call.

Speaker 26 (53:43):
Get Andrew Gooday Tyler. Anybody was more than half an
ounce of what's with justice or compassion in their and
their brain would have to say Corso's businesses should be compensated.
But I think I think the bigger question is is

(54:04):
about the incompetence, the lack of accountability of the councils
all around the country, you know, and how do they
come up with the costs, Like in Auckland you have
the windyard bridge, sixteen million dollars to fix it, build
a new one planet and so on.

Speaker 12 (54:22):
It's to fix it.

Speaker 26 (54:24):
How do they come up with these numbers? You know,
the numbers that these people come up with are just extraordinary.
And then they say, oh, it'll blow out, so you
can you can double that number. You know, if you
say sixteen million, it's going to be thirty two million
by time they've finished. Well, where's the accountability if I

(54:45):
if I around a project like that in my work,
I'd be unembroyed by it by lunchtime.

Speaker 8 (54:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Well, in the Auckland situation, I think that is more
interesting than other places around the country because of the mayor,
and he's he's made pains that at the overspending areas
that he would consider ludicrous. But I suppose that that
paints why it's such a problem that someone like me Brown,
who is quite a strident character and he doesn't tolerate fools,

(55:13):
he appears to be struggling to get that cut through
that these decisions still kept getting made, and he's still
in the papers saying what a stupid decision? Why are
we spending this money? But as of yet hasn't managed
to change it.

Speaker 20 (55:26):
Oh.

Speaker 26 (55:26):
Absolutely, but it's you know you, I think you've got
to take a look at councils and understand that it's
not the elected. It's not the elected councilors that are
running it. It's it's the high powered bureaucrats behind them,
and highly paid bureaucrats behind them as well. Yeah, and
so you know the need in hospitals another example, they said,

(55:50):
oh it's going to cost four hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 11 (55:52):
To build it.

Speaker 26 (55:53):
We've only budgeted three hundred and fifty million, and we
know by time it's felt it'll be seven hundred million.
I'm making those numbers up, obviously, but.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
You know it's just.

Speaker 26 (56:05):
How on earth can you say, oh, we're going to
have a project and we expect of the budgeted price
to double.

Speaker 14 (56:12):
How can you how can.

Speaker 26 (56:14):
You function with that degree of incompetence? You know another example,
I've lived in my house for five years. The road
outside it has been dug up six times in that
five years.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, now, no, I get it, you know, you know,
I gotta make a joke and say maybe they just
love digging holes. But I get your frustration. And this
is what it's about, right, It is the frustrating scenarios
and some people, you know, I get some situations are
a bit more complicated in the world we're in at
the moment. Some some that you know, there's inflation and

(56:53):
cost of materials and where a country in the corner
of the world, and some of those materials need to
be shipped here. But when it's everything, every project seems
to double quadruple. Most people in New Zealand are looking
at that and thinking why, why, why, And when it
starts to bloon out, why isn't someone jumping in there insane.
We're not going to have this. We're not going to

(57:13):
double the budget for a project. We said we're going
to spend this much and if you can't do it
for that much, we'll within close to that region. Then
we're not going to do it.

Speaker 26 (57:24):
Well, look, there's a thing called liquid data damages. Why
is there not liquid data damages in these contracts in
the private sector? If I do a project for newsborg ZDB,
I'm going to build you a new studio and it's
going to cost ten million dollars and it has to
be finished by June the twenty fifth of June next year.

(57:45):
On the twenty sixth of June next year, if I
haven't built you that studio for ten million dollars, you're
going to start charging me out of retentions and deducting
money out of retentions for non performance.

Speaker 20 (58:00):
That's how the real world works.

Speaker 26 (58:03):
Why don't councils in public service work under the same
restraints and accountabilities as everybody else?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yep, it's a good point. And just to bring it
back to the compensation for these businesses in this scenario,
how would you feel about that? Andrew? Clearly it's got
to come from from the rate space. Is that a
fair thing to do for these businesses?

Speaker 12 (58:26):
Well, it's not a fair thing to do for the
rate payers.

Speaker 26 (58:29):
But a fair thing to do is to compensate them,
and and I don't see any other way of them
receiving anycount any compensation because there won't be liquidated damages
in that contract with Fulton Hogan or whoever it is,
and there won't be accountability clauses built into the manager

(58:54):
of roading services for Wellington Council or Auckland, Auckland Transport
or whatever. So we need we need to we need
to start doing this and doing it with vigor. You know,
you can't just keep having these project being redone, blowing out,
being overpriced at the beginning, and then and then doubling,

(59:15):
and people's lives and their livelihoods being disrupted and you
know and heard from the process.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah, nicely, said Andrew. Thanks for giving us a call.
Oh e one hundred and eighty teen eighty is a
number to call nine two nine two if you want
to text you as well. Get to some of those
very shortly. It is twenty nine to.

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(59:56):
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to Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Thank you very much, Raylen and we're talking about council roadworks.
This is on the back of a story in Wellington,
and we know Wellington is a bit of a basket
case at the moment. But the roadworks on Thorndon Key
were started some time ago and the end date was
in sight, and businesses have been struggling and hurting, as
you can imagine. And then the council decided that part

(01:01:18):
of that construction they didn't like anymore raised safety platforms,
so they sent the construction crews back in just as
it was about to be completed and have dug it
back up again. So businesses are saying this is utter madness.
My question is at that point should they be compensated?
That is clearly a stuff up with no consideration given
to those businesses. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

(01:01:39):
is the number to call, Gabrielle. How are you this afternoon,
Cure Tyler?

Speaker 27 (01:01:44):
How are you sure?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I'm good?

Speaker 27 (01:01:45):
I'd like to yeah, I'd like to join the growing
chorus of people that oppose this decision from Wellington Council.
Just a couple of things. First of all, the observer,
the Crown observer that already is he he can't actually
defer or stop any decision that that council had made.

Speaker 10 (01:02:07):
Can no no.

Speaker 27 (01:02:09):
Observe that's what he does, So wold have made any
differ respect that he started on Monday and he's in
there today. He just observes. The other thing was that
the council would have been good if we could have
had somebody from there in that group on radio where

(01:02:30):
you could interview them. They don't have to take questions
from us. It'd be a million of us ready to
jump the phone. But even if you could interview them,
that would have been good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Yeah. Well, I'll find out who sits on that particular committee.
But as we know, Gabrielle, those committees are made up
of counselors. They get information and advice from staff members
within council, but ultimately they are decisions made by counselors.

Speaker 27 (01:02:55):
You're right exactly, So that's why it would be good
to get one of them and anyway that's more input.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
No enough, Well, just as a as a Wellentonian, Gabrielle,
would you in this instance and we know that your
rates have gone up astronomically and really feel for you
guys in Wellington far more than other places in New
Zealand and most most major settings have had big increases
to their rates. Don't get me wrong, but for you,
would you be okay with some of your rates going
to these businesses in this scenario to compensate them.

Speaker 27 (01:03:25):
Yeah, because of the circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yes, very nice to chat with you, Gabriel. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you want to join this conversation. How are you, David?

Speaker 19 (01:03:37):
Are Tyler good?

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Now you've got some intel from Barcelona?

Speaker 17 (01:03:42):
I have, I have.

Speaker 19 (01:03:45):
I was just fortunate to be away for a month
and had two weeks driving around Croatia and then two
weeks in Barcelona.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Lucky man.

Speaker 19 (01:03:55):
Unbelievably, I never saw one road cone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
What have they got against road cones?

Speaker 19 (01:04:02):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:04:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (01:04:04):
But even the main street in Barcelona, they Larumbla, they
were doing extensive roadworks and there still wasn't a road cone.
All they had was little meter high fences and all
the pedestrians are just walking up and down getting on
with their daily business. As that the workers actually working

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in the construction the dead. It was just happened in
a formerly manner. And also the America's Cup like there
must have been I don't know five thousand Kiwis or
more there and everyone was saying, where are all the
road cones?

Speaker 12 (01:04:45):
No roadne we can give.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Them some of our road cones. We got plenty.

Speaker 19 (01:04:49):
Well, I mean I couldn't count. I couldn't count how
many road cones I saw between Mangre and my house
there after we got back to Auckland. It's just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Well, it's just bs, is what it is that these
guys need.

Speaker 19 (01:05:06):
And they even't need a real eye opener. But as
far as Wellington, there's a lot of fat cats at
the top end that have got all the money, i e.
Consultants and engineers. Now, I don't think the rate payers
should be paying to have jobs done twice. Yeah, they
paid once and that's enough. If the council decided, well

(01:05:27):
they cocked it up, well then put in their own pockets. Yeah,
don't go to don't go to the ratepayers. People are
struggling as it is.

Speaker 16 (01:05:36):
Well, yeah, because what will happened next year?

Speaker 19 (01:05:39):
We'll just get passed on. I'm sorry, we've got an
increase in rates again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Well, this is why this one's slightly Well, I don't
think it's that complicated, but it's not the construction workers
issue here. This was a decision by the council to
change something that was already agreed to. So in this instance,
I can't blame the contractors and I don't think anyone can.
They're just doing what they're told to do. And this

(01:06:02):
is why I think it's a good discussion, but a
hard discussion, right, is that we can all feel a
lot of sympathy for these businesses, and anyone that's set
up a business knows what goes into that and what
you put at risk and the hours that you have
to invest to setting up those businesses and hoping that
it's going to work. And when you are cut off
at the knees by a council that appears to be

(01:06:23):
unsympathetic to people losing their livelihoods, then me is as
a rate payer, I would be okay with some of
those rates going to those businesses, even though I know
it's deeply unfair to help those businesses. You know, I
suppose it's that scale of Yes, i'd be angry at
the council, but I just feel so much sympathy for
those businesses.

Speaker 19 (01:06:44):
Well, yeah, well we've got we've got the same situation
here with the light rail that they've been doing here
for god knows how many years in the city. Yeah,
let's drag on and on and that's affected a number
of businesses over the years that I wouldn't I wouldn't
be wanting to pay for a job twice my rates,

(01:07:05):
knowing full well that the council is just going to
come back the following year of the year after and
upgo you're raped again.

Speaker 8 (01:07:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
How was the America's Cup in Barcelona?

Speaker 19 (01:07:13):
By the way, I was fantastic, good, fantastic and Barcelona
got on such a fantastic event, which worries me here
in Auckland because we've got sale GP earlier in the
new year. Yeah, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me fur
council are investigating getting built inflatable road cones to put

(01:07:37):
out on the harbor.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Well, if you get into that business now, David, you
might make a bit of money.

Speaker 19 (01:07:45):
On pastor lot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah you're a good man, Thank you very much. O.
One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call.
It's nineteen eighteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four you've talked they'd.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Be good afternoon. It is sixteen to three Morris, very
good afternoon to you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
Mate. Hey, look, I've got a guy that I bump
into each once a week we have a coffee. He's
on one of those roading councils in Auckland. In my
view of those boats have been compensated in Wellington, but.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
The business he explain to me how it works.

Speaker 9 (01:08:22):
And he's in Rodney, right, and there's ten of them
on the committee. They get forty grand a year reach.
There's one particular person that has spent in that council.
They spent one point six million dollars in the last
year and a bit on asking stupid questions for the
con to the consultants that questions like how many road codes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
This is someone on the committee, Morris, I just missed
that on the committee. Yeah right, okay, yeah, yes.

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
And you know if you got that issue that all
councils they were going back with this that might have
not necessarily been decided by the council or actually.

Speaker 12 (01:08:55):
The bureaucrats in the council.

Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
There's a big chance to vote it in committee that
you have a more on in there who does all
the stupidity and they've got no This particular person got
on there because he was going on about the potholes
and the roads in Rodney. He asked so many one day,
he sent sixty seven emails as a consultants and every
time they respond, at cost you a grand sixty seven
emails and then forty eight hours is.

Speaker 12 (01:09:18):
What they hit the pain.

Speaker 9 (01:09:20):
Then you ask that question, why does it cost so much?
Because people are getting voted in to do a job
but they have no expertise in it, they're not qualified
to do the job, and they asked the most ridiculous questions.
And there's no, you don't have to you don't get
an outcome. You know, if you work, if I employed you,
and I want an outcome because these people are not

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employees per se. They were on you know, they get
paid to sit on a thing. There's no, no, nothing,
It's just it's just ridiculous, right, sixty thousand dollars of
consultancies and forty eight hours for stupid emails like in
one of the emails. And then I can't mention his
name because it's not good, he asked.

Speaker 21 (01:09:58):
He asked, how wide are.

Speaker 9 (01:10:00):
The road cones and how many are you going to have?

Speaker 7 (01:10:02):
You know, data? And they should be this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
What does the you hear about that? I mean, what
a stupid question? Why the road road coner?

Speaker 9 (01:10:09):
So then the consultant then had to go to the
road because he had to get it from someone else's
because everyone's covering their bacon, right, And that's it. And
there's one point six million dollars or nothing. And if
you look at an orphan from who are pied to maucu,
it's two and a half years to put a cheese
color and widen one lane two and a half years.
And rumor has this particular person it's the bane of

(01:10:33):
the contractors.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Well, the chairs should get involved in that situation, shouldn't
they mar us like, I, Yeah, that's ridiculous. And now
you know, if you bring the analogy back to your
own your own home. If I'm dealing with a lawyer
and me and my partner both have questions, we don't
both send emails to the lawyer independently because we know
every time we do that he's charging us another couple
of you know, three hundred bucks an hour or whatever
it is. So we compile all the questions we need

(01:10:56):
to know and then send that email out. Surely the
cheers should be talking to that guy and say, mate,
pull your ed and if you've got a legitimate question,
we all do that at once.

Speaker 16 (01:11:05):
That's the funniest thing.

Speaker 9 (01:11:06):
The cheer said, he does that doesn't listen. He just
does it anyway. And it's book bombarding and there's no
oversight on it. There's no one saying, hey, you can't
do that. There is no rules because they are erected
in and they are they look after the public. And
it's just if you look at the systems and the
processes and everything, and I understand why the meal would
be so frustrated because here we seeing this and there's

(01:11:27):
nothing you can do about it. Yeah, and then these
people are voted in and when they say hey, I've done,
I send off three hundred emails just making sure we're
all good. All his voters he voted them all say oh,
what a wonderful guy.

Speaker 12 (01:11:40):
He's doing his job.

Speaker 16 (01:11:40):
We want him back.

Speaker 9 (01:11:41):
But actually he's cost us one point six million in stupidity.
Things are take it three years instead of one, and
there's no outcome, and there is no outcome for anyone
except the consultants. Say, well, old answer that, I'll go
and speak to ten people and I'll give you an
answer because that's your job.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Yeah, well, whoever wants that position. I mean these you
am o next election to get them off the off
that local board at simon, how you doing.

Speaker 12 (01:12:09):
I've got a solution for them. So I'm in the
industry and an well, and like we get liquid at
the damages on jobs for the rest of it if
we don't finish on time. So if you say you've
got a million dollar job you're doing. Yeah, basically there's
a ten percent retention, so one hundred thousand, and that
if you haven't finished it by a tight to time frame.
You also have a contract with all the companies that
you're affecting, and so there's ten businesses that are affected.

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If the job goes longer than your set time, that
liquid of damages doesn't go into council and disappear, goes
into a fund that pays the businesses for jobs running
over time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Great idea, I mean that would be you know, but
that would so that would be that ten percent would
be paid by the contract that would be paid.

Speaker 12 (01:12:52):
To the council, or the council would have a contract.
The business is affected, they know who's affected, and that
money gets put into it basically a fund which then
pays it back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah. I like the idea right behind that. I suppose
in this this is it. Yeah, so you go, mate,
I'll get another thing.

Speaker 12 (01:13:08):
You know, your inflatable tint. Yes, I've got to sidetrack.
I've got to I've got your daughters. They leave these
tints that they go to, these contents, they leave the
tints up and every year we send to buy two
or three tints, these cheap tints and power banks. This year,
I've beaten them. I've found an inflatable tint with solar panels.

(01:13:29):
There's solar panels on the roof that they could charge
their phone and it charges the inflator and their tents
as well, so there's no excuses about putting the tin down.
It's a it's a company called output Envy dot com phenomenal.
I've got them. I'll let you know next year how
I get on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yeah, this sounds like exactly what I need, but I'll
look it up. I mean, we're going to be chatting
about that over the next hour. Legitimate though. Yes, you're
waiting for it. You're waiting for it the county.

Speaker 12 (01:13:55):
You know, I've ordered it.

Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
I've ordered it.

Speaker 12 (01:13:58):
Just because she was talking about buying two tints or
three tints of the summer. I went, I've got two daughters,
so that to double up. I went, I'm gonna beat
you guys this year. I'm not buying power bags and
teens to get left for a paddict somewhere and gisbond
or somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
So yeah, love it. Yeah, OK, let me know how
you go. Mate. That's great. Oh eight, one hundred and
eighty ten eighties and number the cour think we're going
to get to inflatable teens very shortly. But we'll wrap
this one up after some messages. It is nine to three,
the issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four,
you've talked said.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Be seven to three, get a Thomas.

Speaker 14 (01:14:39):
Are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Very good? Now you're in Wellington, you're a rate payer.
How do you feel about these businesses who are maybe
losing their livelihood because the road's been dug back up.

Speaker 8 (01:14:50):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:14:51):
So I travel on LinkedIn k Yeah, sorry, everybody in
the city streets yep, on a very very regular basis,
every single day, sometimes three or four times a day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
YEP.

Speaker 14 (01:15:00):
I do not write a push bike on the road.
I'd rather write a push bikes in the hills.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (01:15:04):
And so every action has an equal off reaction. Every
cost must have a return on investment or a cost
benefit ratio. Those four businesses have suffered. The council asked
whether it should happen, and there was a vote no,
and they've gone ahead and done it anyway, just pushing
their ideology. The ideology is to get people writing pushpikes.
Got it, understand, great idea. But here's the thing. Let's

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talk about carbon footprint. How much cost and how long
will the cost benefit ratio of the cyclists increasing as
to opposed to the costs that we've increased and incurred
in the cost of producing the cycle lanes, closing people's
businesses and everything and all flow on effect of such.
So do you understand my point? What's it costing us

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to save one hundred dollars a day when it's costing
us one thousand dollars a day to save a thousand.
It doesn't make any sense. Those businesses have been hammered.
The great payers shouldn't pay. The council should have a
default fund and the councilors should have to pay. The
council should have to pay for it because everyone's kind
hard to We want to see everyone do well. Then

(01:16:11):
someone's got to pay, right Yeah, so poplication, Yes, but
there's got to be retentions all you know, if you
run over anyone runs over a contry they don't perform
or things run over, there's a penalty in there, but
it doesn't end to be anything. They just run a mass.
So I've just driven down kent Terrace. There's one cyclist

(01:16:32):
in the cycle lane and three riding up the road,
not on the cycle lanes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah yeah, And I thought, yeah, I agree with you, Thomas,
and I've actually got nothing against cycle lanes per se.
But there are the right time to invest in those
particular projects, and now it's not the right time. And
on a cost benefit analysis situation, as you say, it
appears a good chunk of Wellington and other places around
New Zealand do not want these cycle ways. At this point.
There are more things we need to spend our money

(01:16:58):
on and at the cost of these particular businesses as well.
You weigh those things up and then you look at
what the council was doing and deciding and thinking you're
on the wrong track. You're there there because of the
people elected you to do what the rate payers are
asking for, and you go in the opposite direction. I
think that's where you know, that's a level of arrogance

(01:17:18):
that really upsets people, and I think that's where we
get ourselves into these situations.

Speaker 14 (01:17:23):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:17:24):
So the thing they've given us to some numbers thirteen
hundred cyclists today.

Speaker 16 (01:17:27):
Use the thorn and key.

Speaker 23 (01:17:28):
That's great.

Speaker 14 (01:17:29):
I'd love to know is that on Willington's very, very
best day And is that in both directions just one day?
And has that averaged over the whole year? And they're
saying that's going to triple triple by twenty thirty six.
So to get any benefit, we've got to wait twelve
years and set everything of what's the cost to do this? Yeah,
and every time they've got to relay the road, which
they're doing again right now is Thornton Key. They've maybe

(01:17:52):
just just painted the cycle the little green arrows and
all the cycle images all over the ruck, but now
to all it up and they're redoing it again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, it nicely said Tom. It's good discussion. Hopefully those
businesses don't go un day and they get some sort
of conversation, but I kind of doubt it. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is a number of call about
inflatable tents, because that's what we're going to talk about
very shortly. New Sport and Weather on its way. Very
good afternoon to you, talking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
With you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty
four News Talk Zibbi.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Good afternoon to you. Hope you're having a great Thursday.
Great to have your company as always, seven past three,
just me today. Matts is at Ohakia Airbase. He is
speaking to the new generation of Air Force cadets and
he's having a ball of a time. But he will
be back tomorrow for Friday, so don't worry about that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Good, last couple of hours, grunty, last couple of hours,
But I'm in need of some help over the next
hour or so. I want to talk about inflatable tents.
And I'll tell you why. I want to talk about
inflatable tents. So we were tasked worth booking a holiday
home for us and six of our friends in early
jan and my partner May She went to go make

(01:19:07):
the booking and we paid the money and as you
can imagine, it was quite a lot of money for
that amount of people. Got the money from our friends
and on Tuesday I hear her shout from upstairs, I've
done something wrong, and she was in bits crying what
have you done? So I've done something terrible.

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Tell me what have you done? I've booked the wrong
dates for the holiday home. So she had booked for
the second to the sixth of December, and clearly we
cannot make that date, and unfortunately it had gone past
the point where we could get all of our money back.
So lost a lot of money, lost the holiday home.
But luckily we managed to find a campground for us

(01:19:48):
and our friends, so that part's sorted. But now my
problem is I've got to buy a tent. The tent
we used to have, it was a nice tent, but
I did that stupid thing that a lot of key
we do. Let's be honest, that I left some moisture
in the tent, didn't open it up for a year,
and it's buggered. So I checked that one out. But
as I started looking tents, what keep popping up again

(01:20:11):
and again and again are inflatable tents massive trend At
the moment, everybody was talking about inflatable tents. Whatever a
Facebook page I went to about camping, or website I
went to about the best tents. Everyone was recommending inflatable tents,
and I just don't buy it. Oh eight hundred and

(01:20:31):
eighty ten eighty. The problem I think I've got with
inflatable tents is are they that sturdy? If you can
pump up a tent in ten minutes, to me, it's
a strong gust is just going to blow that bad
boy over. And as we know worth Kiwi summers, some
of them are good, but sometimes you get smashed with rain.

(01:20:52):
I just worry that those inflatable tents. Yep, they look
easy to set up, fantastic. You get to the campground,
get them on the pump, have a beer, kick back, boom,
You've got your house for a week. But I don't know.
I just think the old canvas tent, even though they
are a pain in the butt to set up, particularly

(01:21:16):
if you only do it once a year like I do.
Even with that tent that we have for a couple
of years, every time I unwrapped the bloody thing, I
kept forgetting how it was erected, and then there'd be
the scraps about. You know, have we got the fly
around the right way? Have we got all the tent
pigs in there? No, we're missing tent pigs. So if
you've got an inflatable tent, love to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Is it all?

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
It's cranked up?

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
To me?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
The text have flooded in oh On. One hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you've
got inflatable tent? Sell it to me? Honestly? Are they
as good as people say online and in the shops?
Would they? Because I do a lot of back country
hiking myself, right, so I get for the campground, it's

(01:22:02):
probably a good thing. But honestly, can I get an
inflatable tent that is somewhat light rate weights that I
can take into the back country? Help me out here?
Get on the phones. I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
The phone lines have already lit up. It is ten
pas three. Will get to some of your calls very shortly,
good afternoon. Inflatable tents, are they really worth the money

(01:22:24):
or are they going to quite literally let me down
in six months time? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call, Ethan. What do you reckon?

Speaker 16 (01:22:31):
Oh?

Speaker 28 (01:22:31):
Hi Tyler, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Very good? Have you got an inflatable tent?

Speaker 28 (01:22:35):
We do, mate, We've had one for about five years
now and still going strong, still going strong, mate, Highly
recommend what brand? It's just a torpedo seven one torpedo
seven yet torpedo seven yeap, never let us down? Heavy rain,
are strong winds, yep. The amount of pigs that come

(01:22:56):
with them to peg it all down, those those through
the trick. It's a bit of tension.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
And so what these are the poles that are inflated
with here are they?

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Is that?

Speaker 25 (01:23:06):
How you got three?

Speaker 28 (01:23:07):
So it's got three so one on one on one end,
one through the middle and then one through the other end.
It takes literally ten fifteen minutes to set up. Once
you've got it the bottom peg down, get the pump out,
pump the back one up. That takes a minute, pump
the middle one up, another minute, pump the front one up,
and then peg it all down with another twenty twenty

(01:23:29):
five pegs and you're good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
And it doesn't move around in the winds. Honestly, if
there's a massive cast.

Speaker 28 (01:23:38):
It does move around a little bit, but it's not enough,
not enough.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
To to really worry about when you go and set
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Do you feel And this is why I kind of
like the idea of it, if it works, is that
if my mates have got the old standard canvas and
the bookerrem trying to set it up and where's the
ten pegs and where's the instructions, do you just wake
out the pump, pump it up and then grab a seat,
have a beer and just watch them.

Speaker 23 (01:24:04):
Pretty much.

Speaker 28 (01:24:05):
Sometimes we jump in and give them a hand click
and all those poles together, which are absolute nightmare and
feeding them through and they come undone. Yeah, but yeah,
one hundred times easier.

Speaker 23 (01:24:15):
Love.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
I'm looking at the tea now to put torpedo seven ones.
They look ye, they look real nice, to be honest,
they don't look like they're inflatable.

Speaker 8 (01:24:24):
Not expensive either.

Speaker 28 (01:24:25):
I think we've got our one on sale.

Speaker 12 (01:24:27):
Five years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:24:28):
Now it wouldn't have been.

Speaker 28 (01:24:29):
More than six hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Do they wait quite a bit?

Speaker 12 (01:24:33):
Though? They do way quite a bit.

Speaker 28 (01:24:35):
I just heard you're talking about going tramping with it, Nat.
You wouldn't want to have that on your back for
any amount of time.

Speaker 23 (01:24:43):
I mean, when it's on.

Speaker 28 (01:24:43):
The top of the pull it off, roll it off
straight on the ground for a nice campsite, nice purt
of flat ground, you're good to go. But to carry
it anywhere, no, you would, You'd be no good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
You'd have to be the rock Ethan. Thank you very much, mate,
Thank you Maddie. How are you?

Speaker 17 (01:25:01):
Yes?

Speaker 18 (01:25:01):
Good things?

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
How he is very good? Are you a convert to inflatable? Ten?

Speaker 8 (01:25:05):
Say it?

Speaker 18 (01:25:06):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
I am.

Speaker 18 (01:25:07):
I was never much of the cancer, and then long
story short, ended up having to get into it bloody quickly.
So I got a tent and instead of pumping it
up to a flate, you just press a button so
you don't even have to worry about the four minute
pumping up the sides with it. He has press a
button and flates, and it also had like charging pugs
inside of it from the solar panels, and so you

(01:25:27):
could charge your fine and everything. You don't feel like
you're in a tent.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
See see this is getting pretty full noise. I mean
I kind of like it. You know, we want those
nice things when we go camping. But so so this
pump is built into the inflatable tent. How how do
you charge it up?

Speaker 18 (01:25:43):
So you've got the solar panels all on it, so
the solar panels can help charge a tent, but also
just the button itself. You just hit the button on
the side and leave. I think it took us like
twenty five seconds and it fully pretty much inflates the
whole tent. It's not very heavy, eiver. It's a couple
of kg's and all fits like tight packs into one
of those bags. I'm pretty sure the guy who called
on before he got it from the same place that

(01:26:05):
was from output Indy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Oh yes, yes, now, Andrew, our producer, found that looks
somewhat legit. I mean the price was right, Madie. But
this is a two manner, is it?

Speaker 11 (01:26:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:26:19):
Yeah, so I preferid I think we I we came
with my sister and we had it last summer.

Speaker 19 (01:26:25):
I just took it up north.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
I'm starting to be converted but see, the problem I've
still got with inflatable tents is the same problem I've
got with inflatable mattresses. And we had an inflatable mattress
that had the built in pump. Great for eight months
and then it got a leak and just slowly but
surely started to let us down. Quite literally, you don't reckon.
That's the same situation with these tents. They are bullet place.

Speaker 11 (01:26:48):
Well.

Speaker 18 (01:26:48):
So far it's been so good with this Phon, honestly
for the price point as well as even last in
the eight months, I'll be happy enough to buy it again.

Speaker 14 (01:26:54):
It was that great.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Yeah, good's output. Envy love it, Maddie, thank you very
much for giving us a buzz O eight one hundred
and eighty teny plenty of texts coming through on inflatable tents.
Tyler got an ear tints z Empire. Awesome till they
pop an air tube pumped up to the right pressure
in the dark, then it popped in the sun the
next day. The replacement tubes take days or weeks to

(01:27:17):
get a hold of. If it was a pole tent,
a bit of duct tap would have fixed the broken pole.
That said still love it, Cheers from Matt. See, that's
my problem. If anything goes wrong with a canvas, good
old pole tent, you can jimmy something up. Any air tent,
inflatable tent, I don't know, but keen to hear from you.
The z Empire. I'm going I look those up. I
have heard a lot of people talking about the Empire.

(01:27:39):
I think they're ridiculously expensive though, aren't they. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It
is twenty past three.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news Talk, z'd be good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
We're talking about inflatable tents. They're all the rage at
the moment. I'm in the market for a new tent,
but I'm just not quite sold on the old inflatable.
But a lot of people are, and they have purchased
inflatable tents and they're loving them, but not this text
to get a tiler only ten to have as a
canvas tent with steel poles. We have camped for twenty
five years. It's hahi and been through multiple cyclones, weather events.

(01:28:19):
In a big event. The only tents still standing are
the ones like ours. Love that text kDa Donald.

Speaker 29 (01:28:27):
How to have to disagree with that last caller. I
remember that summer we had like the cyclones come through.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Yep.

Speaker 29 (01:28:34):
Well we did seven days up in Talpo Bay, which
was amazing. We had six days of rain and in
the end the only tints that were left standing were
the inflatable ones.

Speaker 21 (01:28:47):
Really well, the thing is, the secret with them.

Speaker 29 (01:28:50):
Is to not get the small battle tents, the small
little ear popes. That's why they explode. There's no stretch
in them. And you do pay what you do, sort
of pay what you Yet unfortunately the sometimes the cheaper
ones have problems.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
So what I've got a motion but honestly, yeah, inflatable
is the way to go. So what I've got on
my he is, you know, I imagine with the inflatable poles,
I'm thinking, you know, it's almost like a balloon that
it waves around a little bit and I can squeeze it.
It's not like that. Is it rock solid when you
pump it up?

Speaker 16 (01:29:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:29:19):
It was.

Speaker 21 (01:29:19):
Honestly.

Speaker 29 (01:29:19):
The tent that we had was an English model. They
don't bring them in anymore Zondas and it was just
bomb proof and that the big dust. Yeah, our friends
there had our canvas tent ended up leaving early because
they just couldn't deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Would make you feel a little bit smook, Yeah, we
were you the first. Were you the first out of
your group to go inflatable?

Speaker 29 (01:29:43):
Yeah, we were, and after our first trip, four of
our friends got the identical tents. Yeah, and it's not
this group of the same tents. But I'm going to say,
when it comes to tramping, there's a company called Nemo.
It's an American company, and I think they were the
first to bring transing weights or style flatable tents that

(01:30:04):
actually stand.

Speaker 25 (01:30:05):
Up to the wind.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I'm having a look now Nemo inflatable tents because I'm
quite aware, you know, it's probably different if I'm going
into the back country and it's just a tent for
me and the dog, that would be a bit different
from what my partner have is probably expecting over some
of that she was, you know, but a room, a
couple of a couple of extra bedrooms on the tent.

Speaker 14 (01:30:23):
This time we have as big.

Speaker 29 (01:30:25):
It's great for the wife and the two kids. But yeah,
I'm a outdoor person as well, so when I go tramping,
I don't take that clearly, because it's like putty kgs.
But I quite like courses for courses, but honestly, if
it comes to camping, it's so much easier. And you know,
you put it up, you inflate it, and as long

(01:30:47):
as the inflation has a dialog, it it's correct. It's great,
you sit down, get a beer out, your sweet a
bit pumping it up. But you get to watch everyone
else put up the canvas tents. That's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Yeah, d reckon. You could plug the pump into the car,
you know, you put plug it into the we nine
vault to pump it up instead.

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
No, there's not enough power in it.

Speaker 27 (01:31:06):
We tried.

Speaker 29 (01:31:07):
You can buy a big, big capacity one to think
the empires seldom, but they are about two hundred bucks,
some of it Scottish to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'm the same, Thank you very much. Make
great cool Tody. How you doing?

Speaker 14 (01:31:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:31:22):
There you go?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
You're convert as well, are you?

Speaker 8 (01:31:26):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (01:31:26):
I am?

Speaker 20 (01:31:27):
I am.

Speaker 8 (01:31:28):
I am a convert like like you. I pretty much
thought if you couldn't make an air mattress to last
twelve months, you can make a ten class same period
of time. But I have totally been converted. We've got
his Empire ten. We've had it for about five years
and we take it off great over we go camping
up at Lake Tarawera and we're a couple of families

(01:31:51):
and I'll do a run across with a boat, drop
off the wife and the kids, and then go back
and pack up friends. And by the time I'm back,
tense up and it's ready to go. So in terms
of ease of putting out, that's great. And yeah, in
terms of durable too, We've we've put it up on
the south coast of the Wide Upper down in nawi

(01:32:13):
here and a gale wind and it moved around a bit.
It's relatively flexible, but it'll stand up rock solid site
stand aside, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
A lot of people are teaching through about the z Empire.
That appears to be the gold standard. Tony. I'm just
looking at some of the the models, the Delta Force
V two. Holy moly, it looks like a hell of
a tent. But you pay a pretty penny for it.
But I suppose that's quality, right, Yeah, I reckon if.

Speaker 8 (01:32:42):
You pay a bit more for it, I think it's
going to last for us. Family tent comfortable. We can
put trust in it, and we know it's going to
go up, and we know it's going to last. But
I want to feel comfortable. Game. Probably a cheap tent
down a down last tent.

Speaker 14 (01:32:58):
Way, but.

Speaker 8 (01:33:00):
Yeah, I think that's going to go down their lines.
You've probably got to spend a little bit more. We
can get a little bit.

Speaker 14 (01:33:06):
More trust in it.

Speaker 8 (01:33:07):
Yeah, they are heavy too. You there, that's twenty kg,
so definitely won't be taking that. I just camping up
on the Bush's my little two man tenth there with
the flexible holes, which is the way to go on mat. Yeah,
but for an easy family holiday, I'll go every time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Love it, Tony, Thank you very much. And again this
isn't an ad. And I'll mention the Empire Delta Force
V two seven thousand bucks looks roomy though, three bedrooms.
Nice little warning that would solve the housing crisis, I think.
But it weighs fifty seven kilo. I had one hundred
and eighty ten eighty. If you've gone inflatable tent, I

(01:33:49):
think I am leaning towards that now. But love to
hear what you went for. Because a lot of people
are texting through. You can get a perfectly good inflatable
tent from Temu. And I haven't bought anything off Timu
let alone thinking about buying a tent. But if you've
gone the Timu route, was it really that good? Love
to hear from you. It is twenty seven past three,

(01:34:09):
she will get is it? Gimme Jean, Geen, Jean? How
are you?

Speaker 17 (01:34:15):
Ma?

Speaker 23 (01:34:15):
I'm good.

Speaker 20 (01:34:16):
Hey, Look I've came my whole life mapfull. We all
sorts of teams and a couple of years ago we
went the same way when the inflatable which we've got
from Dwight Dwight Canvas.

Speaker 30 (01:34:28):
Yeah, it is a kind of a canvas.

Speaker 31 (01:34:29):
Kim and Mate's bloody brother. The name as just yeah,
so good, so solid, and the the ear pockets are
really firm. You wouldn't even know. It comes with a
pumping comes to the pump with anttle gauge on it,
and so you just pump up to where it goes
into the green. And yeah, we've we've kemp bill conditions

(01:34:53):
like the last color down in South Wairapa and it
just it just stayed steady because you put put your
teeth in the ground, heat the pegs and she's rock solid.

Speaker 17 (01:35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
So you'd never go back to the old standard canvas.

Speaker 14 (01:35:06):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 31 (01:35:07):
I wouldn't speed bear.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
I mean, just so people know it's not an ad.
And you mentioned Dwights, and I like Dwites. That's you know,
they do good, good quality products all around, not just
the tents, and they're having a look at some of
those inflatable products. But that's I mean when you go
on the website, that is front and center, so clearly
that is taking off. Everyone's going inflatable these days.

Speaker 14 (01:35:27):
Yeah, I think we've got.

Speaker 31 (01:35:28):
The endeavor even modeling, and I mean we've got the
those flash inflatable mess which is amazing. It pumps and
help up and stuff. We've were pretty much gleaming at
their stage. Yeah, we did have some people in the
cameground beside us. They blew up with their ear pockets
because it was the cheaper tents. But I went over.

Speaker 25 (01:35:47):
I just tied the pocket and a knot and we
pumped the back cup and then.

Speaker 31 (01:35:50):
We just jimmed up, pocked it up to his wagon
and she was good to We could get a replacement,
but it might be the idea of just a peace
of mind to go and get a spear pocket for
justin case.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yeah, yeah, well I think I'm pretty much convinced. Yeah,
Dwight's outdoors. But every website you go to, Gene, thanks
very much, mate, every website you go to if you're
looking for a tent inflatables front and center. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty, will take a few more
calls on this one. Headlines with Raylene coming.

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Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Thank you very much. Rayleen and we have been talking
about inflatable tents and I think I'm almost converted there.
They are all the rage at the moment. It seems
for good reason, because my concerns about inflatable tents were
the same concerns I had about inflatable mattresses. That they're
good for about eight months, then spring a leak, and
then the bugget and terrible. But it turns out well,
according to you good people, that inflatable tents are rock

(01:38:02):
solid and you can set them up in a cyclone
and you're probably going to be okay. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eight is the number to call. Also,
there's a few ticks coming through about game changes when
it comes to camping, and we're kind of talking glamping
or luxurious camping. So you're still in a tent, but
you're in an area where you might have your car

(01:38:23):
close by, or it's a little bit more reasonable than
the back country I can and tinting I've been talking about.
So your game changes. This texa came through, Hi, Tyler,
love the inflatable tent. But another game changer for us
when we go camping is a backpack caller. It's run
via a battery, but it calls your drinks and lasts

(01:38:50):
up to seventy two hours. Absolute game changer for us
over summer. So love to hear a pack pack caller
sounds amazing. So love to hear your game changes when
it comes to camping as well. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty get a Jonathan.

Speaker 30 (01:39:05):
Get how are you?

Speaker 19 (01:39:06):
Tom?

Speaker 7 (01:39:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Goods? Are you an inflatable tent convert?

Speaker 30 (01:39:11):
I am a lot of different tent converts, but specifically
air tints and their frame tents A bit of a
game changer for the market. And I don't know if
you've heard this saying that they've been dubbed the marriage saver.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Yeah, I don't deny. And as I mentioned before, Jonathan,
and it's you know, I'm not embarrassing this. Every time
we used to set up the old tents that's now
bugging because I didn't dry it properly. It was always
there was always arguments to the point where I just
send poor mave a way, and it was usually my fault.
I was the one getting frustrated. I'd send her away
and say go have a my type and I'll just

(01:39:48):
I'll set this thing up. But it took so freaking along.

Speaker 30 (01:39:52):
Yeah, I think I think the You know, we're lucky
in New Zealand. We've got a number of different supplies
manufacturers and designers here in New Zealand making great tent
and leading the challenge probably globally now and they have
found a way for the shorter and less strong person

(01:40:15):
to be able to put up a pretty big family size.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
You know.

Speaker 30 (01:40:18):
It's not like in the old days where you had
struggled to put up a big canvas and with pole,
metal poles and stuff. You know, so that that's where
that's really where the changes happened.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Now, it's just it's just dawned on me. Who you are, Jonathan.
We've spoken before, but you run a very successful camping
company and Facebook page.

Speaker 14 (01:40:34):
Is that right, that's correct?

Speaker 30 (01:40:37):
Yeah, Fun Adventures Camping.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Yeah, and so for your group on the on the
Facebook page, yeah, sorry, carry out.

Speaker 30 (01:40:43):
I was just going to say, I've been enjoying traveling
the country lately, putting up quite a few ear tents,
you know, and that and that for different expos for
quies to check around the country and having the air system,
you know, employable system means you can put up a
huge amount of tense in quick successions. So this is
there's one side effect to a positive side effect to it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
Do you get some of the hardcore are camping members
of your community, you know, the backcountry guys that just
can't be sold on inflatable or is that completely changed now.

Speaker 25 (01:41:18):
There?

Speaker 30 (01:41:19):
Look, it's it's there's different tents for different uses in
different people in different situations. So you're talking like the
hiking type camper who's traveling up the mountains are not
taking an inflatable temper too. But the system itself is
heavy and bulkier, so that's probably not for them. They'll
still consider a lightweight, poled.

Speaker 16 (01:41:41):
Tent, but much important.

Speaker 30 (01:41:43):
Right, most people in New Zealanders today will be converted
and could easily be talked into an air frame system.
So what we're smartis are smart when it comes to camping?

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Oh yeah, absolutely they are.

Speaker 19 (01:41:58):
And when it comes to do it easier.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Yeah, when it comes to the brands that come top
of mind, what what are people? I imagine there's some
brands that are sticking out now as the go to
in terms of quality. See the Rock, Solid and Comfortable.

Speaker 30 (01:42:12):
There's probably three that I can just rattle strapped to
my head, so non need a particular order. But Empire
Dwight's Outdoors I think you've mentioned just recently and Key
Week campaign would be the top three inflatable brands that
I would easily just recommend to any New Zealand camper
t Inflatable tents well, I would just not be promoting that.

(01:42:35):
It would not be something I'd be not not for
any particular reason other than they are not made for
New Zealanders for our conditions, you know, and they's such
an important thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
So yeah, yeah, what have you got yourself, Jonathan, I have.

Speaker 30 (01:42:50):
One of everybody's tents.

Speaker 12 (01:42:52):
At least.

Speaker 30 (01:42:54):
I am lucky of a whoard of different tents, but
I'm lucky enough to have one from everybody. That's a
big part of what I do to ensure that I
don't just say something is good without using it myself.
So out of the three until seven probably really just
rounds out the four as I shouldn't have left them out.
They don't make a trustworthy tent as well, so and

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price at a really good level for Kiwis. So out
of those four, I've got one of each, if not more,
you know of each brand.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
So love it. Are you camping now, Jonathan, I'm not.

Speaker 14 (01:43:28):
I'm not campaign now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
No, where's the next spot? We're off the next.

Speaker 30 (01:43:33):
So this weekend we are at Battle Hill in Wellington.
We've we're hosting and helping with a mum and child
children's sort of event, or at least a woman's events.
So I'm clearly not a woman, but I'm out there
helping them with how to put up ten to any Christians,
I've got general questions, so that's part of what we

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do as well. We run a woman's specific outdoor group.

Speaker 9 (01:43:57):
So yeah, love it.

Speaker 30 (01:43:59):
We're out there this weekend with that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Yeah, love it. Always good to check to you, Jonathan.
If you want to check out their Facebook page, New
Zealand Fun Adventures Camping. They've got one hundred and twenty
five thousand members and it seems to be a pretty
good place to go if you need advice about camp gear.
Thank you very much, Jonathan. Right, we'll pick this back
up very shortly. It is twenty to four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on
matt ETHN. Tyler Adams Afternoon News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Be very good afternoon. We've been talking about inflatable tents
and I'm pretty well converted there. But if you've got
an inflatable tent, love to hear from your on eight
hundred and eighty teen eighty. Also talking about the the
must have or the game changes when you go camping.
A couple of texts through on that regard high Tyler.
Must have gas Califont for hot water on bag borrow

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with the gas bottle, twelve vault battery and twelve vault
pressure pumps so portable. Put beside the sixty liters water
tank and you are good to go love that, Julian,
How are you good?

Speaker 10 (01:45:02):
Mate?

Speaker 17 (01:45:02):
Sir?

Speaker 7 (01:45:02):
Do you hear from Calstia about it?

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
You kidd mate? Nice to chat again.

Speaker 7 (01:45:06):
You know you've realize this. It's all irrelevant until you
can convince mave all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Right on the tent. Yeah, well, I showed her one
of them. I won't mention the brand because people think
it's an AD and it's generally not an AD. But
the one that I did show her, it's been mentioned
over the last forty minutes. But the problem is, I mean,
she loves it and it looks like a great tent
and it's massive, it's three bedroom's got a lovely warning,
but it's five grand. I know, to spend five grand

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on a tent?

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
Yeah, hey, look I bought one off Timo. I bought
a lot of stuff off Timo, and I've never been disappointed.
Why don't you just buy a cheap one off Timu
to see if you like it?

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
But what im is Yeah, I hear what you're saying,
but some of the ones that I saw off Timo,
and I've never bought anything off Timu genuinely, but I
may do. If you know that some of the tents
on there were looking pretty good for the price. But
the ones I was eyeing up is about five hundred bucks,
and that's still a lot of money. And if I
get that tent from Timu and I set it up
and it starts pouring down with rain and it leaks

(01:46:06):
and it deflates, then that's fine. One hundred bucks gone.
I'll never see again.

Speaker 7 (01:46:11):
Yeah, but you will be able to flick that on
if that happens, because you know, I mean I the
one that I got off a team who I think
was a round about one hundred and twenty. It's not
a huge one. It's it is really sturdy, and I
I am a camper, but I'm not that I'm a
fair weather camepra so to be honest, if I and

(01:46:32):
it was poorn with rain, I wouldn't put the tender.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Yeah that's so, you know, so I think there's a.

Speaker 7 (01:46:37):
Way the round it. But that would be my suggestion.
By a cheap one. If you like it, see how
the you go with thowing it up and all that stuff,
and then when you're convinced of that, then you know,
then spend a bit more get something decent. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
No, well I'll take that into consideration. Julian has cass
by the way.

Speaker 7 (01:46:54):
It's great, Yeah, very very good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
It always is down there.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Thank you very much, Julian. Someone ticks through Tyler just
high retent. I never thought about that. I mean it
kind of makes sense, but I have never seen anywhere
that would rent out a tint. I imagine they do exist.
But if you've rented a tent, if you can rent
an inflatable tin, that probably solves my issue here that
I can rent it. If it goes well, then I'll buy.

(01:47:20):
But can you actually hire out tents? Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call, David.

Speaker 23 (01:47:25):
How are you hey, Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Inflatable teints? Are you going mate?

Speaker 8 (01:47:31):
Ye?

Speaker 14 (01:47:31):
Yeah, playing as well?

Speaker 23 (01:47:33):
Uh convert? I think so to seven years ago. And
then we have one that actually made I think it's
an English brand mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (01:47:42):
And the highlight for me is.

Speaker 23 (01:47:46):
Because it has a big onwning that connects to the
car as I drive a van as well, so I
have people sleeping slipping in the van and you can
just walk through the awning and then get into the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Tent and all that You've got it sorted. So we're
talking as it a four man tent and then you
can connect the awning to the van.

Speaker 23 (01:48:05):
Yes, yes, it's all in one piece. All one tis
the connection or whatever. It's just there is another lever
to just connect to the fin either at the back
or the sliding door. And uh yeah, the whole ten
is it's good. Inflatable it's good because everything is one piece. Yeah,
you know, your your pole and the whole wall and
everything is all in one piece. So it's very organized.

(01:48:28):
It's pretty cool and put up real quick, put down
real quick if you're an organized person. It's really really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
You know the other thing I've seen, David, that has
been popping up, obviously the inflatable teams. Everyone's raving about
them good times. But the rooftop teint did you ever
consider that? I see, I see them everywhere now usually
there are youth forward rangers, but maybe on the van.

Speaker 10 (01:48:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:48:49):
So like see, because in New Zealand, if you if
you're you want to be, we try everything. We try
camper van for rented, and then I'll all intend and
all that, and then we I came to the conclusion
where you know, if you want rooftop ten, you want
to do all year round and all that. It's just
and not not ideal because it's going to be wet

(01:49:12):
and then you know, you can there's no connection with
your kitchen and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Yeah, so you know it's just a place to sleep. Yeah, yeah,
but I have seen them pop up everywre and I
get that if they're on the Ford Rangers or the Utes.
I imagine most of the people using the old rooftop
tent set up are hunters. So it's just a place
to sleep. But David, thank you very much. Lucy, you've
got a camping game changer.

Speaker 6 (01:49:37):
Well, actually.

Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
Yeah, not as well.

Speaker 14 (01:49:41):
I do have a test.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
But the thing that for me has changed the game
as a sleeping bag liner.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Sleeping bag line, a sleeping.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
Bag liner made out of a hundred percent silks. So
I've had them before. I as a young as a
young backpacker, I made myself as one out of a sheet.
But then I came across still sleeping bag liners, and
oh my god, talk about taking luxury with you wherever

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you go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
I like your style silk sleeping bagliner. Oh yeah, they
look luxurious.

Speaker 9 (01:50:18):
It is in it, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
I mean it's light, and it's it's warm, and it's
fool and it's weighs nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:50:26):
And it takes up no space.

Speaker 6 (01:50:27):
And I've bought them for everybody I know.

Speaker 19 (01:50:30):
Because I just love it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:32):
I love it And sometimes actually when I go on
stat friends places, I if I'm just going for a night,
I'll even take it so that I saved their sheeps.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
That it all.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
If you take it with you, even when you're not campaign,
that is a game changer. I'm looking at them now.
That the fairly priced, so it depends.

Speaker 6 (01:50:52):
Where you buy them from. But it's but like but
like your man said, the fool with the tent, if
their chiefs, they're probably not silk. I got mine from
a place, an online company in Wellington. That's where that's
where I get all the ones that I But yeah,
it's silk is reflected in the press not bad, you know,

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about a hundbable fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
But it's that's also something I can take into the
back country. Imagine that ways next to bugger all that
I can just put that in the in the backpack
and get a little bit of luxury on top of
a mountain.

Speaker 14 (01:51:27):
Completely.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Yeah, love it, Lucy, thank you very much. Silk sleeping bagliner.
I love that Rob, you want to have a chat
about t MOO tents, not.

Speaker 32 (01:51:40):
Particularly about tents, but team OU generally, if you are
unsatisfied with their goods and they're not upto quality, which,
to be fair, an awful lot of them are not.
If you take a photograph and complain, they will give
you your money back. Now I don't know when this
would include a five hundred dollars or a thousand dollars

(01:52:02):
tent or not, because I've never been there, but certainly
for smaller stuff they will give you your money bank.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Is it a pain to get that money bank? Or
is it pretty easy process?

Speaker 32 (01:52:13):
No, it's it's pretty easy process. You take a photograph,
you post it online to show you what the defect is,
and the money comes back almost immediately, much the same
as Ali Express. I mean an express that does the
same if you're not happy and you've got good cause.
And to be fair, the first time I did it,

(01:52:36):
I think it's just a pair of shorts which just
weren't very good shows. They wanted a photograph, so I
sent them through a photograph of a seagull which I
happen to have on my gallery, who's actually an albatross
in the Southern Ocean, but that's by the buy and

(01:52:56):
they just want a photograph. They don't I don't think
they want a photograph of the isem. They just want
to photo and they send me my money bag. It's
only about twenty bucks or something.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
Maybe they just really like the photograph of the seagull. Rob,
you never know, man, that guy knows how to photograph. See. Yeah,
that's interesting because I always thought I have I've never
bought anything off Timu, but I have bought off Ali
Express in the past, and I kind of thought, whatever
money I spend on that platform, if the if the
product is no good, all good, I've lost that money.

(01:53:26):
But you're telling me it's pretty easy process to get
your money back if it's dodgy.

Speaker 32 (01:53:29):
Yes, but Only Express does sell quite a lot of
branded goods as well, and suser isn't particularly cheap, but
if he's branded, they're good goods, and the generally speaking,
they have pretty pretty reasonable price.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Nice to hear from your Rob, Thank you very much.
And just on Rob's point, this text to Tyler, why
do you keep bad mouthing Timu? Their refund policy is
better than other online shopping I have dealt with often
a refund with no need to return the item as
it costs them too much to have it back. I've
never never needed to do a large return. Gin Well,
thank you very much. I don't know if I was

(01:54:03):
bad mouthing Timu. I just have my reservations as all.
But maybe maybe I'll take a punt on a TM
tent and let you know how I get on. Oh
had one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Will have time
for another couple of calls. It is eight minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four used talk, said zaid B.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
News talksz B Bruce. We've got about sixty seconds.

Speaker 16 (01:54:34):
All right, I've just got two points of view. I
live full time in the camping ground yep, a different
setup in Minavi now. But I have gone through the
research for at tents in the past. But I speak
to a lot of inflavorable tent people in the camping
area where I'm at, and they're generally haven't been happy

(01:54:57):
with them, and the main reason is the tents collapsed
in a wind or a decent wind right, but maybe
there's maybe there's newer tents that are more sturdy these days. Yeah,
and however, look at about a second or two for
another point of view. When I did research on what
I wanted for my own tent, I went eventually.

Speaker 10 (01:55:18):
Went with a steal.

Speaker 16 (01:55:22):
A steel type hoot type tent that had it was
a polyester type of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Yep, well that sounds good, Bruce. Good place to finish.
I think I am converted on the inflatable tendon to
everybody tixing through Saint Tyler, borrow our tint and then
if you like it, you can buy another one. You
are good people. That is why I love New Zealand
and lots of those techs and I'll try and respond
to some of those. Thank you very much for today.
Matter is back for tomorrow Friday. We've got topical tunes

(01:55:49):
and New Zealander of the week, so looking forward to that.
Have a great afternoon. Hither is coming up next We
will catch it in tomorrow

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