Full Show Podcast: 15 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to the Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast.
And this podcast going forward will feature all the bits
from the show cut together, but also a little bit
at the start, like this, a little bit of bonus
bespoke material, extra content just for.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
You, a few yarns, a few teasers that we couldn't
get out on the show today. And there's what there
was a beauty that you really talkedout making you really talked.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I was frustrated, Tyler, because I wanted to share this
story and no, I wanted to hear it, so it
has to go out into this this forum here.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, we're going to tease a tease and we'll get
to that a little bit later. No, no, we're going
to get to that right at the end of this intro.
Really aviation chat. That was great chat. Aviation security really
enjoyed that. Focused a lot on batteries.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
In the end, it did actually get get sort of
bit waylaid with batteries. Everyone was really interested and you're
listening batteries and why you weren't out on the on
the on the plane, I was accused by one caller.
I'm trying to remember the word it was, but being
a bit not glib. There's a word for it, being
a bit blase. A was the word around airplane safety.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
But in the dangers of batteries. Lien to that and
maybe I didn't have the comeback at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And this is another thing I'll do on the start
if I don't if I don't think about the the
comeback at the time, there's a term for it that
the French have, which is called steerway wit. I don't
know what the French translation it is, but.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
If you like in the sound of it.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, if there's a caller that says something that I
don't think of the response to at the time, I'll
throw it in here.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'll throw it in here. Okay, Well here's your chance.
So I'm going to play em. So, Matt, you know
you've been joking around about batteries, but batteries are no joke.
You know, they can start a fire on a plane,
and that is the last place you want to fire.
What is your repast?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Get out as if to AA batteries or any kind
of risk on a plane if they are a risk
on a plane. I don't want to be on a
plane if it's too risky to have.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
To AA batteries on a plane.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Whatever you call the name that I can't remember now,
which we really appreciated.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You call em a great caller, and that's what That's
what he wanted to say to you, but he didn't.
I want to say, a great caller, thanks for calling in.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
But come on on, two AA batteries, rub them together.
I mean, you're going to stop us from taking flints
on the planes in case we start a fire. Probably.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Actually, well, you did mention the two sticks, which and
I thought that was taking it a bit far.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Actually, so I was excited about the aviation chat. That
was good, even though, as you said, went down battery.
We were just talking about safety on planes and not
really what we were talking about a security and getting
on planes. And I think we can streamline it. And
I think we're just a bit airring on the side
of shutting everything down as opposed to getting my ass
on the plane as quickly as we can.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah. I think we found efficiencies today. Yeah, I think
we solved the problem. We also had Tyler our Frisco Chat.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Now, Yeah, what I liked about Frisco Dining Chat.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
What I liked about this hour in particular is you
did a deep dive on the word al Frisco. Yeah,
and you found out some interesting facts that you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
On Wait wait till you hear my interesting thing about
old Fresco dining.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's going to be well worth with the weight.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Although there is accusations that I got the country of
origin wrong, but we're not.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
We're won't open up that can of worms. No, no,
not just leave it, leave that. We don't want to
break over those calls again.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
And then we got we got deep into boys trip
chat and whether I'm going on a huge, old, dirty,
old rolling shimozzle of a boy's trip is a good
thing for a relationship with.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Some great calls on that, some great stories about lads
trips and girls trips as well. Yeah, yeah, the old
hem's trip. They get wild, man.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I mean, a boy strip can be a girl strip.
It's still a boys trip. If a group of girls
go on a girls trip, it's still a boys trip.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, it's a trip where you.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Go away from without your partner there, and we argue
that it's great for mental health. I mean there are
limits to it. They can go too far and be
terrible for your mental health.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's a good line to throw to your partner or
your wife and say, I've got the boy's trip coming up.
It's great for my mental health. I need this for
my mental health. Yeah, and that is a fair line.
We're not joking around about that. That is legitimately. You know,
boys trips, staying in touch with your mates when you
get a bit older as a male, incredibly important.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, but you can take it too far, and you
can have a boy's trip that goes so far and
it's such a boys trip that it ends up adversely
affecting your mental health. We go into that in great detail.
So that's a good chat.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
But here's my story that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I didn't have time for in the in the in
the in the in the body of the show. I'm
in Paris, YEP on a boy's trip right with my
mante and I asked Stuart good Man, ge Lane's there,
Joseph Jury's there, and we've been in Paris for a
few days. We're over there for the Rugby will Cup
end of last year, and where we go into a
French restaurant and Parisian service staff. Parisian waiters are famous

(04:56):
for their rudeness.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Did you go Alfresco?

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, Alfrisco, there's great viewing.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
They set up the Alfrisco situation there like a grand stand,
so you're sitting outside the cafes watching people go down around.
This was mont mart area near socda Cleur, and we
were sitting there and we sat plant down and a
waiter came.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Along and he looked us up and down and he
profiled us and he said, for shit lagers, I assume.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And he just looked at us, and it's kind of
considered in empoweris to eat, to drink beer is kind
of considered German and English and kind of ghosh. So
they profiled us as four guys with reasonably decent bellies
on us and he said for shit lagers, I assume,
and and we were tickled by that when he said, yes, please,
you're four shittest lagers, please, sir.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And he brought them out and he goes, you're shit lagers,
and we drank them.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And then he came out again, and because we've been
so jovial about it, he decided he liked us, and
he goes another for shit lagers and then so we
drank those and then he came out and.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
He goes, ugh, you English really enjoy your shit lagers.
And we said we're not English. That's where that was
the problem, as he thought you were English and the
French do not like the English.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
We said we're Keywis of New Zealand. He said, ah,
for shit laggers then and he got us there shit
lagas and that was the story.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I wanted to get in there, but there wasn't time.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
And I'm sure you podcast listeners feeling like you've got
some bonus content because of that.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, very good. Well that is the intro and here
comes the body of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah mate, sure you make sure you subscribe to follow
and tell all your friends about the Matt and Tyler
Afternoons podcast.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons new for twenty
twenty four news talk Zibby.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, get a welcome into the show. Matt and Tyler
with you until four pm. Get a mate, Get a mate.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So, second week of doing the show, seventh show. Actually,
so you have been around for a while, but I'm
brand new to the station and to talk back. And
I'm having a fantastic time. But there are a few
teething issues or a few bits of advice that are
coming in from above, some lessons.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Some lessens. We're both learning together on this journey.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, and one thing we'll be doing, is we mentioned,
is saying bad boy a lot, so particularly you Tyler.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Great phrase, and I do love to send out a
bad boy if I think the occasion calls for it,
but I do it a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You do it nearly every sentence before you headed me
a coffee and you said be careful, the bad boy
is hot. And yesterday's show apparently we fight out between
us three bad boys in a five minute period. So
today we're running the one bad boy each guarantee. So
you and none of these bad boys here count And

(07:42):
those don't count because we're talking about the bad boys.
These aren't counting as the bad boys. We're not allowed
to say.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Right from here on, as soon as I right now, no,
you still want to check out a few more, I.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Think from when the show starts after this, Okay, okay,
as soon as we've done with this part, yeah, no
more BB one bad boy each between now and the
end of the show. All right, and you can help
us out on nine two, nine and two or eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty if you hear a bad boy.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
And we may have an alarm that goes off if
one is I should because the bosses are pretty hot
on this. No more bbs.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah yeah, so, and there'll be a punishment. I was
suggesting before that I would I would take my belt
off and administer an old school parental punishment on you
if you bad.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Boyd severe but fear some would argue, many would argue.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And and I think if I bad boy, then I
have to buy you a beer.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
So I think that's probably the best way.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
To do it, right. So that's our first guarantee of
the show. You can count on that. After three o'clock,
lads trips, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
A man is for advice after his girlfriend has forbade
him going on a boy's trip. We want to know
do you support your partner going away and ripping it
up with their friends, or do you shut them down,
or worse, do you insist on going along with them.
That's a very important topic in these days of social isolation.
I think it's very important that people keep friend groups

(08:57):
going and spend time outside their relationship. Speaking of which,
member of my friend group, Jeremy Wells is joining us
on the show as well to talk about a new
book about the commentary team that we're both a part of,
the alternative commentary collective, the acc almanaks out and he's
got some good chat to show with us on that.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, looking forward to Evin Jeremy on the show to
talk about the Almanac after two o'clock. Our fresco dining
fees of Riled Up Torong in Mount Monganui cafe and
restaurant owners. This started to be charged by the council
on July one. So the question we're going to throw
out there is do councils, because it's not just Toyroong
and the Mounts that charge these alfresco fees. Auckland do it?

(09:38):
Christ you just do it? Wellington do it? Just give
cafes a bit of a break for goodness sake. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
In my opinion, the primary job of a council is
to help businesses do their business and the more people
we can get out and about sitting at cafes and
bars on the street having a great time.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
The better.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hospital employs people, It gets people together, So councils should
not be looking at finding them for it. They should
be looking at ways to help them facilitate their business.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
In my humble opinion, Tyler, that's a beautiful opinion. That's
after two o'clock. Right now, Transport Minister Simon Brown is
quietly investigating a shakup of aviation security at New Zealand airports,
hoping to speed up passenger processing and cut costs. So Brown,
who's made no secret of is disdain for queues at
the airport's screening points, is considering outsourcing security services currently

(10:30):
run by Aviation Security also known as AVSEC, which is
part of the Civil Aviation Authority. AVCC is owned by
the government, largely funded through fees paid by passengers when
they buy their tickets. But in a discussion document sent
to airports and airlines and obtained by The Herald, Brown
raised the prospect of av sex jobs being run by airports,

(10:51):
airlines and private security companies. But this is a doozy.
I mean a lot of people listening right now would
have had a mirror of a time going through that
aviation security checkpoint.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, whether it is outsourced or not. I think the
way it's run right now, you can see inefficiencies, so
what could what could they do better? Now, whether they're
handed over or not. When you're going through security, do
you see inefficiencies? Do you see things that could be
done better? One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I see a lack of consistency. That's the big one
for me is quite often I'll be asked to take
my boots off. Yep, take the belt off. That's fine,
I know the drill. But recently when I had to
fly a pe to Auckland, actually when we were planning
for the show and I started to get the laptop
out and they said, oh no, don't worry about that,
so we'll ended that change. I always got the laptop out,

(11:41):
and not only that is then I got pulled across
because they found something suspicious in my bag. Turned out
a couple of AA rechargeable batteries not allowed I know
how Yeah, and I felt like, oh, oh, this is
that of really stuffed up here because they you know,
then the stern face comes on. They take it to
the side. Everyone can say, all cheap as that guy's

(12:02):
going down yep, And they had to throw those double
A batteries away and they're expensive as well.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean that that seems ridiculous to me. And
the belts and the boots. Don't get me started on boots.
Let people wear boots on a plane. You're holding up
the queue getting people to take their boots on and off.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Anyway, what do you think? What inefficiencies do you see
right now at airport security? Domestically in New Zealand e
one hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It is twelve past one, back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Mat Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US Talk said, be it's.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
A quarter past one. You're listening to Madam Tyler. What
do we do to make aviation security more efficient? Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call Blair.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
How are you hello, Tyler? How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
God? Nice to chat again my friend.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Up in the big smoke now living the dream.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, it's a good vibe up Pable.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
I've got to say, I don't know if I'd consider
living the dream up.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
There, but quietly fair enough, Aviation Security inconsistent.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Yeah, I just say hello, Matt, welcome in.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Oh hello, bleir, how are you? We are living the
dream up here.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
But you can live the dream anywhere in this fantastic
country of ours, can't you. Oh he's good, isn't he? Blair?

Speaker 6 (13:23):
It's going to have to try a bit harder. Hey anyway, Yes,
so sick.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Improvements and consistency I think is probably the key. You know,
when you get allowed to take a single or my
daughter in law is allowed to take a single action
lighter on a flight from Wellington to Auckland, gets through
no problem, but gets pulled when we want to come
back from Auckland to Wellington and they say, oh no,

(13:51):
you can't have a single action lighter and you've got
to get rid of it. Where's the consistency? If it's
good enough to fly up there, surely it's good enough
to fly back on.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
The whole Would you would and the whole blear? Would
you think that you should be allowed to fly with
a lighter.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
It wasn't that it was a lighter. It was the
fact that it was a single single activation lighter action lighter.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
So what's the difference between there's a single activation and
a duel activation.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Well, I don't really know. I mean, I guess if
you're talking like a zippo where you've got to lift
a lid and then strike it, that would be a
dual action. If you're just talking about a like a
pleaser type, we'd just press a button once and it lights.
I guess that's what they would call a single action.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
So you're allowed, you're allowed a duel action, but not
a single action, correct, man, I reckon I could do
a lot more damage with a duel election is a
powerful powerful lighter?

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Well, I mean, I just but the thing is if
you can, if you can fly up with one type,
how come you can't fly back with the same type.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Yeah, So that's that's my question around that.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I agree with you. I mean, I talk And this
was genuine blair that I had those double a bed
taken off me and when I had to pull over
to the side and he said, there's some batteries in
your bag, and I said yeah, because I had a
couple of vake pens in there, and there was the
the storage banks, you know, the big batteries, but it
was the little ones they took and I thought batteries

(15:24):
are battery, isn't it. So I'm allowed a big battery bank,
but I'm not allowed a small double it.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
So it's the idea in the battery that you are
going to use it to power something dodgy, or that
the battery might be something that they don't know what
it is.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I didn't ask questions at that point because you don't
want to get off side with the sick. If they
said we're going to take the batteries, I said, yep,
take whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Please, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
But yeah, I don't know what the actual reason is
for taking that genobly Is it because they think that
you might use those batteries for something the.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Furious I suppose.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
I mean, were they lithiums or were they just like ads,
you know with outder standard sort of ever any things
or these lithium ones that are that are getting a
reputation for self igniting. But I mean then at the
end of the day, I think if if you're going
to have a self igniting battery, I think it's probably
better to have it in the cabin with you then
down on the hole with no bugger's going to see

(16:17):
it if it goes.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, And also I mean you've got your cell phone battery,
you can take your laptop battery on there. There's a
whole lot of batteries on there already. Perhaps we could
get through security a lot quicker if you were just allowed,
if Tyler Adams is allowed to just take a couple
of AA's on the plane, and then maybe we and
he wasn't being taken to the side and slowing things down,
and maybe we could get through security a lot quicker.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
So I am what you would take on it?

Speaker 9 (16:42):
Hi, Tyler?

Speaker 10 (16:43):
Hello, Hey, I'm flying tomorrow actually to Auckland. Now, every
time I've gone overseas, you know, left from christ Church,
I've had no problem as long as kind of taped
together in groups and not lying loose.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah they were rolling loose. I forgot those batteries were
in there.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
But Tyler, how could you forget it?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
You know?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah? I know, Diane, I know, shame on me. And
I was made to pay by evsick they you know,
it was quite embarrassing to be pulled aside and say
how dare you with these double A batteries? But if
they run the packaging, you're all right. I can understand that.
So if they are in a package all good. If
the lucy goosey in the bag you're in trouble.

Speaker 10 (17:22):
Yeah, and that's no. It's good to talk to you
now that you're up in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yes, Diane. And where you're flying to this time? So, Matt,
Diane is a is a notorious traveler. She's been everywhere where.
Is it another cruise, Diane?

Speaker 10 (17:37):
No, No, I'm just going up to spend a week
with a couple of my friends and go up the
coastline a bit.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
And Gil's trip from from Auckland.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
Yeah I know. No, No husband's coming along too, you
know when we do the sight seeing boots and that.
But yeah, no, just a week's break because I've got
to get back for the cruise ship season.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yes you do, Diane, Thank you very much. Hey, I'm
just looking this up here.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think you've been I think you've been robbed here. Yeah,
I think you've been robbed there, Tyler. I'm just a
lot of the rules. You can carry up to two
lithium batteries or two point eight grams of lithium content.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
So you had two lithium batteries. Yeah, ah, you've been ribed.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
You can one twos two grams.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
You can take to two non spillable batteries and your
carry on bags. You cannot fly with wit sell spillable
batteries such as a car pet trick.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I can get you. I can get that. Someone taking
a car battery on your carry on is probably a
no noe O one hundred and eighty ten eighty What
do we do to speed up aviation security? Love to
hear from you. Nine two ninety two as the text number.
It's twenty one past one.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 11 (18:50):
The Prime Minister whll Us Christopher Luxom trans Tasman Resources,
who are one of the people on the short list,
claimed they can earn a billion dollars a year. I'm
assuming when the committee looked at the fast track they went, jeez,
that looks good. I'll put them on the list. Once
they got on the list, they've said that doesn't count anymore.
Are you in trouble with this?

Speaker 12 (19:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
No, not at all.

Speaker 12 (19:06):
I mean we've got to grow this country. You've got
to say yes to stuff. But do you say from
there who clearly made it up? Well, I'm not sure
that that would be the case if.

Speaker 11 (19:14):
I claim I'm making a billion dollars, and then two
days after I'm on the shortlist, I claim I'm not
going to make a billion dollars. Did I make it up?
Or did I make just a bit of a whoopsie?
But I well, never mind, I'm on the shortlist.

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Well, Mike, I'm not going to go into the individual
cases that are in those fast tracks.

Speaker 11 (19:27):
Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike Asking Breakfast with
Mayley's Real Estate Newstalk Z.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Beat's twenty four past one.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, so we're deep into Tyler Adams battery gate here.
So he says he's been pulicided for taking two AA
Leftian patries and they've been confiscated on you at a
domestic flight from Christia'stalkland.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Is that correct?

Speaker 7 (19:45):
It has?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
So I'm looking at the quick battery guide for flights here, Tyler,
you can bring up to fifteen personal electronic devices on board.
Who has fifteen first electronic devices they need to bring aboard?
You can pack up to twenty spear batteries and power packs.
They must be in your carry on bags.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
A pacemaker doesn't count towards your electronic device limit.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
That's fair. If you have a power wheelchair and mobility aid.
That's all good.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Police pack your advices so they're protected from damage, keep
away from metal objects like jeweler ends up as and
all that kind of stuff. So I think, I think
you've been unfairly targeted for taking two with the in
batteries on the plane, and I want to take this
all the way at the time, I want to take
this all the way.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
It is possible. It is possible, Mett Heath, that I
might have panicked in that situation. I might have disparaged
this ev SEC worker that he was actually kind of nice.
And I think when he pulled me aside, and I'm
in panic mode by that stage, thinking oh God, what
have I got in the bag, And he starts to
explain to me in a nice way what we can
do about these batteries, But instantly I'm saying, I don't
know whose batteries are. I've never met those batteries of

(20:43):
my life. Get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Smart, because you were carrying some contraband in your back pocket,
you didn't want it to look too closely.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
John, your wife works for ev SEC.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
What do you think around the issues of efficiencies at security?

Speaker 13 (20:58):
Yeah, you're good afternoon. Guys. Hope you're doing well in
your new showing. Congratulations, thank you, John. Yeah, yeah, I
won't say where she works. But Tyler, were your batteries
did you say they were rechargeable?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, rechargeable?

Speaker 9 (21:14):
Right?

Speaker 13 (21:14):
Were they in the actual holder, the rechargeable holder?

Speaker 3 (21:17):
No, they were not. Now they were loose in the bag.
And the worst thing was John, is that nobody can
see my backpack here. But there's a heck of a
lot of pockets, more pockets, you know, like head and
pockets that I don't know about. So it took a
long time for him to find.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
The revoked Tyler Adams flight status. Yeah, put them on
the no fly list.

Speaker 13 (21:38):
Yeah, No, I was just sort of thinking because of
the actual charge itself, it's got scott wires coming out
of it.

Speaker 14 (21:44):
Now.

Speaker 13 (21:45):
What they've done and they is they've changed the X
ray machines from two D to three D right now,
that that takes a lot of time to go in
like three dimensional, to go through all your pockets, to
pick up everything that's in your bag. That just takes time,
and ultimately that that slows the cues down unfortunately. But

(22:05):
it's it's just one of those things. That I'd rather
have that five ten minute weight knowing that that bag's
going to be checked and there's not this mental bomb
in it, or a gun that you can put together
in three or four pieces on the plane and start
shooting someone.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, I've got a couple of questions for you, John,
as someone that's whose wife works said have sex, how
often does she find something dangerous, like literally legitimately dangerous
that could lead to kind of those security issues you're
talking about.

Speaker 13 (22:39):
She had an issue last week. All the bells and
missles went off. Team leaders were called and thankfully it
was a false alarm, but it was picked up through
the new three D X ray machine and it looked suspicious,
but on further investigation it was clear. But if they
privatize this place and just to get people through quicker,

(23:02):
that would have been missed, that would have been put
on a plane, and you imagine if something had happen
up at twenty thirty thousand.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Feet or they do privatize.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
It is privatized in London and Australia, and you arguably
have a higher security risk there. John, I've got a
question for you as well, another question, follow up question.
I was once going through security and I saw a
glock pop up in the picture and someone's like, you know,
a glock a handgun. He popped up in the picture

(23:34):
of someone's bag, and then I went, oh, my goodness
to the person like your wife that works there, and
then they just pressed it, tapped on it, and it disappeared.
And what it was, if I understand correctly, is every
now and then the system will pop up a picture
to make sure that you're watching.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Can you confirm or deny this?

Speaker 13 (23:53):
Yes, that's right, that the test would The ray machines
that are like they're rostered every fifteen minutes, so you're
on a for fifteen minutes, you're taken off to do
another duty and then you come back, so your attention
isn't basically you don't get bored on it. Other duties
they're rostered to half an hour, then they're shifted off

(24:13):
to do something else. They come back, so they're rostered
around all the time doing different duties so they don't
get distracted board what do you want to call it? Yeah,
with the X ray machines, it's very intensive, especially with
you three d ones. Yeah, yeah, fifteen minutes they're taken
off do something else. But yeah, they early in the mornings,

(24:35):
they go around and the team leaders put out test
pieces all around the terminal and the people are rostered
on earlier. They have to go out and find these
test pieces. They could be in the air bridge.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
This is good.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
That sounds fun. Yeah, that would be my part of
the job. That would be my favorite part of the
day if I worked in there. Hide and seek and
a sick Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, just on the three D you have to find them. Yeah,
just on the three D scanners. John, why did they
bring those out? Well, what side you said on? Because
are you saying that they are Security comes first and
foremost and we need the three D scanners there to
make sure that nothing nefarious is getting on the flight
or do you think genuinely it's a little bit too
much for domestic.

Speaker 13 (25:16):
Oh yeah, it's sort of domestic. It's it's different like
if you're on a jet. That's why you go through
security thing because that plane is capable of going into
national They're not worried about propellers. They can't go into nationals.
They don't worry about that, right. It comes from the
International Civil Aviation Authority, which is overseas that's they're worried

(25:38):
about the jet planes that can take off from here.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I've always wanted where that was.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I've always wanted why you can just rock onto an
ADR and no one cares, But on a jet that
makes sense exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, this is good job. We're learning a lot here.
I got to take a break. It is half past one.

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(26:17):
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(27:05):
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enz in Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eith and
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Thank you, Rayleen, it is twenty six to two. And Marie,
how are you good?

Speaker 15 (27:19):
Thanks?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Are you very well? You used to work for EVZEC.

Speaker 15 (27:22):
I did just quite recently. They were just introducing, as
I left, the three D X ray machines, which you
can actually see a lot lot more wrong, which is
why you don't have to take your laptop out anymore.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
So.

Speaker 15 (27:36):
On the two D machines you can't actually see through them,
so you can have anything hidden behind them. Seven nine
ty get episcides as you can't. They're very very dense.
But with the three D X rays you can turn
them around. You can spin everything around you can see
exactly where everything is.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
That That is interesting how many airports have that now?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Because I was going through Aukland the other day and
it said there was a sign saying you have to
take your laptop out, but then when I went up
to go through, they said you don't have to take
it your laptop out.

Speaker 15 (28:03):
As I was taking in there, I see a lot
of the international ones. They're doing all the international ones first,
flying domestically. They're slowly taking over a little bit at
a time, but it depends. I don't really know what
order they're doing. Excuse me, they're doing them at and
again I think it was John that was your previous
caller had mentioned about everything. All the rules are handed
down from the CIA, so if you want to be

(28:24):
an international airport, you have to abide by those rules.
And why some of those are different in other countries,
I don't know. Because we are always told you must
take the boots off, don't have sex shoes. You can
hide things in boots. You can hide things around your
ankle which can go through the metal detector. There's three
D printing now people have got three D princes knives,

(28:44):
so they've just been extra cautious. You know, if you're
traveling in America, you take shoes and boots off.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, so as a new technology on both both, your
bag goes through the scanner and then if you get
picked up on the metal detector, you have to go
through and stand with your arms apart and do the
three D scanning. Then. So both of those systems are
being upgraded, have.

Speaker 15 (29:05):
They yes, so if you you'll still through. I think
eventually they want to do away with the first one,
the metal detector, and everyone will just be scanned on throw.
But the metal detector does just pick up metal. The
scanner picks up any anomalaly if it doesn't matter whether
it's metal or not. You could have a big, bulky
handkerchief in your pocket, it'll pick that up. It's just

(29:28):
it's it's scans you, but it's not an X ray.
It just scanns your body. And if you've got anything
that shouldn't be there, then we ask if we can
please pat that area down just to clear the area.
And people forget all sorts of things. People do have
pocket knives in their pocket and they've just forgotten that
they're there.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
What happens in that situation A Marie. If they find
a pocket knife, is it all all hands for the
pump at that stage for ebbs or no.

Speaker 15 (29:52):
We just it depends on the size, because there is
a size of them. It's of blades and scissors. I
think it's I believe it was six centimeters. If it's
over that, it can't go through. It has to be confiscated.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Henry, how long did you work for six.

Speaker 16 (30:05):
Four I was only there for eight months, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
So in your time there, and you know, talking to
other workers there, how often did you find something or
heard about people finding something that, rather than being a mistake,
they actually thought was a genuine attempt at an attack
on a plane, a genuine terrorist threat.

Speaker 15 (30:29):
A genuine zero and most of them are zero. People
just bring things back through accidentally. I think the worst
thing I found was a knuckle duster, and that so
that that's an illegal thing that police had to be
called for that, right, There's very I mean, I think
the most frustrating thing because we do get frustrated too,
and I know passengers do. But standing on the other side,

(30:49):
the biggest frustration for us is passengers believe their brains
in the taxis are in their cars and get into
the airport. They do not read signs, because most of
the signs at the airport I was at were very clear,
please empty your pockets, please take laptops out. And people
would come through with keys and phone and everything in
their pockets. So you'd send them back and they'd come

(31:10):
back through again there's still something else, and you've sent
sometimes three or four times. Just can you just take
your jacket off? Can you just please empty everything thing
with out of your pocket. That's what slows the whole
production laying down. Otherwise it's really fairly quick. You go through.
You don't be if you pick up your bag at
the other end. I mean the battery thing. The battery
shouldn't have been taken off here. You just had to.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Wanted to run.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Noies my pans tylert that you had something else there.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I didn't want to look at anymore.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I think the AFC guy was still talking to me
while I was running.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I swear though that that in all that time nothing
has been through.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
That was a genuine risk. It's an interesting thing to
go to.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
A job every day and you never quite find the
thing that is you're there to find, because no one's
trying to get them on on onto planes, and god
forbid someone does. But I mean maybe that's an argument
that we could make things a little bit lacksa domestically,
but of course, because the jet planes can go overseas,

(32:15):
we have to be beholden to international rules.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
But a good point, Am Mariemade that if people read
what was allowed in the bags to carry on bags
and had it sorted before they got to aviation security,
run a lot smother. Yeah, but no one's ever going
to do that, are they? Like you might do that? Well,
I didn't because you wish to my battery.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Any good system takes into account that people will be useless.
Every good system takes that into account.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Wise words, it is twenty one to two.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.
Matt Even Tyler Adams afternoons used talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Good afternoon to you. It is eighteen to two.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, Transport Minister Simeon Brown is exploring options to outsource
aviation security airports. Before we do that, are there inefficiencies
that you see when you're going through airport security domestically
in New Zealand that you think could move things along?
I personally believe that thing as we've ever ever found
anything in.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
A boot that people should just be able to rock
through with their boots. Yeah, that's a big one for you,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
In fact, I don't think they found one anywhere in
the world. Richard Reid, that was the guy that was
was it two thousand and one? So he's done so
much damage that guys who was getting on a transatlantic
fight with a bomb and a shoe a terrible human being,
and as a result, people all around the world fit
to take their shoots off his shoes off on flights.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
The US do go hard on aviation security, and we
all understand why the US particularly goes.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I get it. I get it in the United States
of America. I definitely get it in the UK.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
But they almost make you completely disrow before you go
through security in the US. Patty, how are you this afternoon? Hi?

Speaker 16 (33:53):
I'm very well. Thanks. Good afternoon, guys, Good afternoon. Yeah,
I've got a little story to share with you, just
an amusing story. I wanted to take an ear bike
up to Auckland from Nelson, so I need I needed
a box YEP. So I went to the airport to
ask in the third box. I said yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I looked in the box the guy I said, oh,
there's no bicycle in this. I said no no, I
said to him, I just want to see if my

(34:14):
ebik will foot in here. So he said, oh, you're
not taking the earbux to unclean noise. I said, yeah,
well you can't take the battery. I said, yeah, I
know that, so he said so I said, oh, talking
about that, I said, what is the deal with these batteries?
So he said, because I'm acting stupid easy, So he says,
oh no, he says, you know, we've just reduced the

(34:35):
size of the battery so that you can take on
a plane. So I said, okay, well what's the deal
with them? So he said, well, the size of the
battery has got to be so that it fits into
the sink in the plane, so they can fill the
sink with water to dowst any fire. I said, you
are serious, so he said yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Now.

Speaker 16 (34:53):
I don't know if he was just telling me this
to get rid of me or what, but anyway, so
I said to him, do you know what elethia mine
battery does when you put it into water? So he
said no, So I said, it gives off hydrogen gas
which is highly closer. So he goes, really, I said,
and you didn't know this? No, So I said, okay,

(35:16):
well thanks for the info, and off I went. And
he said, how are you getting your battery to Auckland.
I said, that's for me to know and for you
to find.

Speaker 17 (35:22):
Out that.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Taking it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
But my dad sent me and e bike up from
from Dunedin recently because he didn't want to ride his
e bike anymore. It's a very cool little orange foldable one.
That was quite a rigma role getting it up here.
I don't I think it had to go across land.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (35:41):
I think, well you can send the e I think
you can send you can send the buck because I
did send my e buck.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (35:47):
But they said, oh you've got to send the battery
by courier, and that's got to be a special courier.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think that they speak
from you. I think we send the whole bike is
a special courier. But I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I was like saying to my dad, I'll just take
the put it on the plane, take it back up
to Auckland with me, And he said.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
No, no, no no, no, no no no no no no, no,
you can't do it. No, you can't do that. I mean,
we do get but silly on those batteries, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
But they when one of those batteries starts burning, burns
and burns and burns and burns in a way that's
quite weird and what you wouldn't want on to play
in a Biggie Bite battery.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, it's a good point. I take them.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
I opened the door and have it out.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Of course, Craig, what do you think on this one?

Speaker 8 (36:25):
They has a game?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 13 (36:27):
Well.

Speaker 8 (36:27):
I sort of work as a contractor that does a
lot of work in the airports, and I find it frustrating.
I flew down to Crash at around about two thousand
and I wasn't really paying much ginches what you could
take and what you couldn't take back in those days.
And I walked into Crashes airport and bumped into Jason
Gunn and then we're past, yeah, past the big display
end of all things you can't carry, and that's what

(36:48):
I was carrying them with little carry on bags like
cigarette lighters, utane torches.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Oh yeah, so it's like, well that's not good.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
But then a few years ago we did work up
at Auckland Airport, and yet we're doing all of warring
for their WiFi, for.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
The access points.

Speaker 8 (37:02):
I had screws and screw drives in my pocket and
walked up through the metal checker in the road with
everyone now, so had to take them all out a
couple of times, and the guy sort of knew me
by then and said, oh, you just go through. And
I remember going through the middle kicking, screaming, you see
it off and turned around. All these passengers are looking
worried because they didn't get stopped. But I also had
a security passage gave me the excess all areas, and

(37:22):
what I found was quite interesting. There's some parts of you,
but once you get through that. On the international side,
I found out that the police are actually governed by
international law and not local law. So right back in
early two thousand and they were carrying glocks and that
when New Zealand police weren't doing that. And I walked
down the other side and this guy comes up to
me and goes, what are you doing in stern voice,
And I went to grab my little ID tag out
of my pocket, and as I was pulling my tag out.

(37:42):
I could see his hand going down towards the gun.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
It's like, oh yeah, yeah, that scary.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
But yeah, it's interesting what you can carry and and
stuff like that. But I guess you got to you
gotta be safe and all that. That's a contract. It
does get a little annoying when you plasically got a
entire tool box. As you go through the the thing
and that you see all these people on lying look
at chickney watchers and you're like, oh crap, I'm pissed
someone off. But that's just what it is.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
But I'd be interesting if there was some kind of
full security investigation, psyche report, full investigation into your whole
life and all your acquaintances.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
And you just get a teck that this guy is good.
He can carry stuff onto the plane, he's safe.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
You'd never fly anywhere if that was the case, mate,
I'd flag straight away.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
I wouldn't give me that license. But there are good
people out there.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Now, that's interesting, Craig, thank you very much, mate. Lorraine,
how are you hi?

Speaker 18 (38:39):
Good things?

Speaker 19 (38:40):
Now?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
You want to give me a serve on my battery situation?

Speaker 20 (38:43):
Yeah, just to say that when you're carrying batteries especially
lithium batteries. You're supposed to have them either in the
container that they were brought in or in the items
that you were using it in. They don't just like
them floating around at the bottom of your bag. They're
combustible and they're fire rests.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
About what if Tyler had said, I'm gonna put one
in one pocket and one in the other pocket and
never the Twainshill meet.

Speaker 21 (39:08):
No.

Speaker 20 (39:08):
But but even still, I mean, you know, if you what,
why cut corners and try and do you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Right, what kind of low level terrorist is sitting on
a plane pushing two AA batteries together trying to bring
the plane down? But there would be there'd be a
terrible terrible plot that one.

Speaker 20 (39:24):
Yeah, yeah, oh well they have they have were also
that the majority of the people can fly, and you know,
I mean it's for that reason for a virus lessian batteries.
When they're put out, they can respark again. So they're
supposed to be in a container, the original storage container,
or in the item that they're being used, and not
floating around at the bottom of the bag, even if it's.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
One yeah, toilet. They were pretty manky batteries as well.
To be honest, they're rechargeable. I had them for about
what you have, what you bring them up for? You
had two ten year old batteres just rocking around. Loosen
your bed. That's why I just desire dis owned the
actual bag and just started gapping it. And the guy
had to call me back and said, you want your bag,
I take that, Just take the batteries. Oh, eight hundred

(40:07):
and eighty ten. He is a number to call. It
is eleven to two.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Mattith Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight and Tyler
Adams Afterloons News Storks.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
New Storks. There be met and Tyler it is eight
to two.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
We're talking about aviation, security of sex and how we
can move things along and make them more efficient. You've
got some battery chat, I understand.

Speaker 21 (40:36):
I do.

Speaker 22 (40:36):
I have some battery and firetech.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Okay.

Speaker 22 (40:40):
I think you guys are being a little sort of
last day about Yes, I think that if there's a
fire on board, there's a lot of those batteries for
self ignite, and people do do crazy things like trying
to charge their fape using the airplane.

Speaker 23 (41:00):
Yeah you shouldn't be doing that, no, but but there's
a risk there, and that's why the rule is there,
and it only needs to be one time or something
to go wrong to warrant it.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
But just on that, Emma, and I get what you're saying,
absolutely right, and that's why the rules are in place.
But my double a battery, I don't want to I
didn't think we'd be hanging on this for a whole hour.
But how is that different to a power bank? You know,
a power band is a bigger battery. Isn't that more
of a fire risk?

Speaker 22 (41:30):
Well, well, I don't know the brisk between. I think
what people could use it for or what what could
potentially have, especially if it's a lithium Then you don't
want to fire in a plane.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
No, you certainly don't.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Well, Emma, I'm a big fan of being blase about things.
So what about someone taking two sticks on the plane?
You get someone who's taking sticks on the plane that
may make a fire. But interesting enough, you are actually
allowed if you if you can make a fire with
two lithium batteries. You are allowed to take a gas
lighter on a plane if it has two independent actions,
So you actually are allowed to take something. You're actually
allowed to take something on a plane that can actually

(42:09):
and is designed to start a fire.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah, but I think you're coming from Emirates more. The
it's not a deliberate attempt to start a fire. It's
might You might have these batteries in that just reignite themselves,
and then you've got a world of trouble. Yeah, okay,
is it a world or trouble? Is it a world
of trouble?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Or is it a very small fire between two AA
batteries that you would immediately feel in your pocket and
you could dampen out. Someone could just go.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
And it's out. Yeah, but I don't want to have
that conversation with aircrew and when we finally land and say,
were they your double A batteries? You should have been
picked up at absect.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
But also when I look at the rules, you are
allowed to take those batteries on the plane anyway, even
if they are loose. Yeah, so you are actually allowed
to take those batteries on a plane.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I was robbed apparently, right, Thank you so much for
your call, Emma. A couple of texts and then we'll
wrap this one up. Get guys, I came through airport
detection and the security insist that I had missal I
knew I didn't in the X ray unit beat. I
was then asked to go through a third time. She
asked me to remove my necklace and I said I'd
never seen that rule before. Eventually and loudly said that

(43:17):
it was my bra. It was bepen. The lady behind
me was rolling with laughter at this. I felt like
I was being picked on it.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
But you did.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, we couldn't have something kind of rule.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
You've got to take your bar off before you go
through security. That's the consistency you're talking about. Yeah, because
I have to take my belt off, but if I
was wearing a bra, I would get to leave it on.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Just to come full circle on this, yeah, because this
is about privatizing sec or allowing airports to run their
own security, and we all know clearly there's some inconsistencies
in the process. Now, will they do a better job?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Well, they do it in the UK. I think airports
do a very very good job of getting people through
and organizing organizing the throw of people. And I know
that if he in New Zealand or an airline was
running it, they'd be very careful and keep up to
the regulations. So I'm sure they could do it as
good a job. I guess that comes down to price
for the government and efficiency. Anyway, should we put that

(44:12):
airport security chat to bed?

Speaker 13 (44:13):
Yes?

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Speaker 3 (45:23):
Welcome back into the show. Yes, Matt and Tyler until
four pm. Hope you're having a great shoesday now. Before
the news, Matt, you mentioned we sleep tip that you've
read about that has changed your life.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
This is changing my life absolutely. I actually watched on
a YouTube clip with some guy called the.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Doctor Sleep humulating name, but he had some good advice
that I've been using because.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
You know you're sleeping.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
It's all very well to go to bed on time,
but you when you wake up in the middle of
the night then and you can't get back to sleep.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
I guess that's a big issue.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
It is, And what doctor Sleep was pointing out something
that I didn't know that a lot of that was
to do with the beating of your heart, how high
your heart beat has and actually go back to sleep,
your heartbeat has to come right down. So say you
need to get up to visit the bathroom. Some of
us have to a couple of times in the evening
because we've got weak pelvic floors. When you get up,
you're getting out of bed, and the walking to the
bathroom increases your heart rate massive makes sense quite a lot,

(46:17):
and actually really fast, because you've gone from completely and
utterly docile docile to up and about. So your heart's
going but you can't go back to sleep until your
heart beat comes down. And there's a very very simple way.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
And you might have heard this before, and I had,
but I stopped doing it and it's been changing my
life recently.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
So what you do is you breathe in for nine seconds.
Oh sorry, I've got that wrong.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
You breathe in for seven seconds, yep, hold it for
four seconds, and then breathe.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Out for nine seconds the seven for nine track.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, and you do that, and that has been scientifically
proven to lower your heart rate. And so if you
concentrate on just that breathing seven for nine, then you
can actually feel your heart beat lowering. And this has
changed everything for me. And then before I know what,
I'm back to sleep because I didn't think about that
heart rate. And it makes a question whether you really

(47:10):
need to get up and visit the bathroom and all
those normal things that don't turn lights on, any lights,
checking your phone or you know, finding out what time
it is. Any of those kind of things will keep
you awake.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
It's what navy seals do, isn't it. I'm sure that
was their technique to calm them down and snipe just
before and a sniper sniper, they need to have their
heart beat low before they fire.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
But seriously, try it. If you're waking up in the
middle of the night, try this seven for nine. And
I've been sleeping, you know, I'm waking up just as much,
but I'm being able to get back to sleep better.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Live in everybody right, great zip, Now, this is going
to be a good discussion our fresco dining and this
is specifically in Totonger and Mount Monganui, but this happens
across the board in New Zealand. There has been some
concern about the fees being charged to cafes and restaurants,
and Todroong are to allow some of their tables and

(48:01):
chairs to be placed on public foot baths. The council
reintroduced the charge. They let it go for a wee
while during the pandemic years because they thought it was
too much for these cafes and restaurants. Reintroduced it in
July and the charges it stands now is about seven
hundred and fifty bucks a year. That's Edmund Coss then
an extra one hundred and fifty bucks per square meter

(48:23):
and quite rightly, the cafes and restaurants in the Mount
and Todonga are wildly upset with these charges.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
So right now in Auckland and Christchurch and Wellington they
charge alfresco dining fees for cafes and bars.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yep, correct different charges and we will find out how
much they actually charge. In Auckland and christ Church always controversial.
It is controversial in christ Churge, controversial up here in Auckland,
controversial in Wellington Well one hundred and.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Eighty ten to eighty.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Should councils be charging olfresco fees or should we be
doing everything we can to get people out and enjoying
beautiful cities and doing everything we can to help HOSPO
in the difficult time.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Before I get your take on there, and it's a
good take, a hot take, Mount Monganuy Business Association destination
manager Michael Clark said O fresco dining at a vibrancy
and helped attract visitors to the area. He's not there.
He went on to say, I don't think there should
be any charges for using these public spaces for those reasons.
The co owner of Polar Dessert bar On Prince av

(49:27):
said the fees came as many Mount Monganuy businesses face
rising costs, including council rates and the price of goods.
They went on to say, I don't think it's justified
for our council to charge us significantly more for street
dining spaces than other main centers. This is just piling
even more misery onto businesses already struggling, and you'd agreed
with those businesses.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I guess the question is what do we want from
our cities. We want a thriving, thriving hospo industry, and
we want people out and about. We want people getting
out of their houses, we want people spending time together
in the community, and we don't want businesses going out
of business because of fees like this. And I would

(50:09):
say personally that that's the council's One of the councils
of any city's primary jobs is to make sure that
we have harming districts, huming entertainment districts.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
And a lot of people will agree with you. But
here's the response from the council why they have reintroduced
these charges. So City Council City Development and Partnerships General
Manager Gareth Willis said the council fully sympathized with the
hospital businesses facing tough times, but he said it's important
to have written street dining agreements with businesses to ensure

(50:40):
pedestrians can properly access spaces.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah mate, sure, good one, but that doesn't mean that
you need to charge them for it. You can just
make some rules around where the tables are and negotiate
with the businesses on that. If you're worried about pedestrians
not having enough space to walk past, etc. You don't
need to then charge them per meter.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
But how much of the footpath are they taking up here?
It's got to be done discreetly, right, we're just talk
looking one part of the pedestrian footpath that they take
up with their tables and chairs. They're not blocking the
whole football.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's a totally different issue to charging them for it.
That's just an issue around space and practicality, and I'm sure,
go for your life. Council make some rules around that,
but you should be airing on the side in my opinion,
of making El Fresco dining and hospo in general more

(51:35):
successful and greasing the wheels for them rather than adding
costs on top of what unnecessary costs in my opinion,
on top of what they're already difficult times.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
You're hot on this. I love it. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. Do you agree with matt here or
do you think the council has a right to charge
the pedestrian? The footpaths are owned by everybody, so what
they're doing there is saying, hey, you can use it,
but we're going to charge your fees because you don't
actually pay rent on that footpath. That's the rationale. Are
going to charge pedestrians for walking part the space they take.

(52:08):
Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number
to call. It is fourteen pass two.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Your new home of Afternoon Talk and Taylor Adams Afternoon call.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
News Talk said, good afternoon, it is sixteen past two.
We're talking about a fresco dining. It's kicked off in
Tyrong and Mount Mong and Nui. The council has reintroduced
the charges to cafes and restaurants that want to utilize
the footpaths for a bit of alfresco outdoor dining.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, and I say, do everything you can to support HOSPO.
Don't add extra costs that seem unecessary to me. And
look in a second, I don't want to slow things down,
but I've found something shocking about the world, the word alfresco.
And when I share that, I guarantee it'll blow your mind.
It's going to change the world, change everything when I
share that.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
But just not not yet. Bryce, what's your take on
this one?

Speaker 17 (53:01):
This one hundred and something dollars that they've got to
pay for meter? Yeah, the first square meter is per
year or per day at a.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Peers to be per year, peers to be per year.

Speaker 17 (53:12):
So per meter that were to be something like twenty
cents a day. Yeah, so that's some of the cheapest rents.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Ever, I reckon, we need to look into that. I
don't think it is.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
I think.

Speaker 17 (53:28):
You carry on, Bryce, It's well, if it's one hundred
and something to say, what was it one.

Speaker 24 (53:34):
Hundred dollars A yeah, we'll just read out the word
in we do.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
We might try and get the Totung City Council on
the phone here. So I'm just going to read this
out verbatim. So the fees for Mount Main Street businesses
for the next financial year will be one hundred and
fifty dollars per square meter of street use and half
that for Mount Central. They would also have to pay
GST in a five hundred dollars administration fee. Now, just

(54:01):
to put that into context with Auckland. So they found
Auckland charged four hundred and one dollars a year permit
fee plus twenty one dollars to one hundred and fifty
four dollars a square meter, So that says to me
it is per year. But we're going to try and
get a hold of Totong District Council and find out
about that.

Speaker 17 (54:18):
Well, if you work at a that's my limited mass
around its twenty.

Speaker 25 (54:25):
Cents a day.

Speaker 17 (54:26):
But I don't agree with the seven hundred or whatever
the administration. I don't agree with that. I think what
you do is if you're applying for say six square
meters at one hundred and fifty one hundred and twenty
whatever dollars per year, you actually cost you for seven

(54:48):
because they had one square meter as the administration feet
for the year. The other thing that I have and
sowing we're in the mountain are already notorious for this
is when the restaurants get given a two meters, they
take the full foot path and people in wheelchairs, people

(55:09):
are with friends and pushchairs and that can't get past
these places because well, you've got the people dining, but
you've got all the mates that have stopped to talk
to them as well.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I guess that's a I guess that's a that's a
slightly different issue though, I mean, if if you've got
a zone that's that's assigned to you and your charge,
and then that that's one thing. But I mean, of
course a cafe can't take up the whole the whole
pavement or else obviously. I mean it's it's it's designed for.

(55:43):
I mean, you have the you have the pavement for
people to walk down as well, but I mean you
built bigger, wider pavements. If there's a big wide pavement,
then then there's there's nothing better than then walking down
a road and being out in the community with a
lot of people sitting out and having a good time.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
It's it's community with.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
That change if it's a monthly charge, because I believe
it is. I've found some more information here. So this
is from the co owner of the Phoenix Bar on
the Strand, and he used to make the annual rental
for the two outdoor spaces he was negotiating to use
would be about six grand a year. So that is
a fifty charge. So I think the admin cost of
five hundred bucks per year, but then the cost per

(56:21):
square meter of outdoor usage has probably charged at a
monthly rate, right, Okay, would you support this?

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Bryce?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
What happens if you you know, you don't charge the
cafes for the space if there is room to go pass,
but potentially fines if the if they're outside of the
area that's been assigned to them.

Speaker 17 (56:44):
Yeah, I'd agree with that. You have to very clearly
market that make it so those marks could have just
been scrubbed out for food.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Put up a shrubbery, yeah, put up a shrubbery. Yeah,
thank you very much. Bryce. It is twenty one to two.
Back fore shortly.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten on talk Z.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Very good afternoon to you. Now met you had a
bit of a factoid about the word.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I remember when I remember growing up in Dneda and
when they extended the pavements down George Street and everyone
got excited about the world word of alfresco dining. Great
word which you can't always do in Dunedin. Beautiful city,
pretty city. I love love that town more than anything
in the world. But I've got to say there are
some days where you'd be crazy to try.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
And alfresco dine. But I remember the word going around
and I.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
First learned it. I saw it in the Attago Daily Times.
I was like, a fresco, how fancy? A fresco isn't
actually a term used in Italian. It's not actually alien.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Because it just screams to me European alfresco dining.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
It does, and it's a it's a it's a word
we've thrown together and out in English, which is which
is saying cool, fresh air.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
But the Italians don't say that at all. They say
a la perto.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Well, that's even better, a liberto.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
So alfresco, which just means basically fresh air. That's that's
the creation of English mine blowing.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
It's mind blowing, mind blowing.

Speaker 25 (58:14):
Pete.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Firstly, our fresco versus the Italian version, what would you prefer?

Speaker 9 (58:21):
Yeah, I reckon, yeah, Italian, I suppose, but it's spoke
to produce it. Then about it buy? You know it
should be free, but I suppose you have to look
at it a bit of this way too. The counts
is looking for money. But as long as I think
there should be maybe a little bit of a fee,

(58:42):
because if you buy a business and you're you're going
to pay per square meet asami, it doesn't want you
tay per scream you buy a shop, or at least
out a shop or whatever. You got to park on me.
You and I got a paper parking to use the
parking parks in the towns and stuff like that, so
I don't hit them too hard in the pocket. So
maybe a little bit of a fee, but don't be

(59:04):
too greedy about it. So if I, if I, if
I get into the restaurant business, and I saying okay,
I've got a choice of maybe putting some chetes outside
and things like that and a few tables, maybe two
fifty or three hundred dollars for a year a reasonable fee.
It's still a little bit of money for the council,
but not over the top, so it's a happy medium

(59:25):
get into and to a shot. Might want to extend.
I'll use that boot pathod, but I do have to pay,
you know, didn't even get into it for to us
for two fifty three hundred just a little bit of
a fece. It's a bit of money for the council.
About going over the top. Not but along as it's
health and safety, so people can still use the boot
path for pedestrians and stuff like that, and the mobility
stoodents can still use the heavy access of that footpath

(59:46):
and that's pretty fair.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yeah, well, Pete, would you say, though this is slightly
on a wider sort of view of it, would you say,
pert dining, I'll go back to Alfrisco al Frisco dining
as a thing is a great thing for a city,
and it's a great thing for community, and it's something
that we want to encourage as long.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
As it's not getting the way of mobility scooters and such.

Speaker 9 (01:00:11):
I think so because you want to probably all know
the councils of Kilda cities, Auckland. We will know exactly
and how can we get these cities back to where
they used to go. You scuff Aukland a lot of times.
I don't go up there much now. You know, five
beteen years in the World Cup and it was going
two thousand and lift. It was thriving up there in
al So you want to get it back to that again.
At the end of the day, I will still reckon

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you certain center of the sea. That's your heart.

Speaker 13 (01:00:35):
It's like on your body.

Speaker 9 (01:00:37):
Start making out with your heart.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
To kill it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
The more I think about it, they are the places
where you can have our fresco dining in a city.
In New Zealand. That is where you go to get
some some great food or some hospital service, isn't it
Trafalgar Street and Nelson just down by the waterfront in Queenstown.
Probably the viaduct in Auckland. Maybe that's changed now. I
mean it is you just zero went like most a flame.

(01:00:59):
If there's outdoor dining, that is where the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
People go, and it is an advertisement for your business
if you if you're running a restaurant, if people are
sitting out the front having a good time, then then
that attracts more people to come and more business and
more people to the area. If everything's behind closed doors,
it's it's a bit like the Michael Hall Julius Jewelius situation.
He worked out this a long time ago. If you
open things up so people can see what's going on,

(01:01:23):
then they not that he's selling jeweler out on the streets.
It's probably not the perfect example, but what I mean
is that you're advertising your business. The food's out and
people are walking past. It creates a vibrant hospit and
environment and what makes people want to come into these
businesses and be part of them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I always go for the garden bar if i'm eying
up a pub. If it's got a good garden bar, boom,
that's me. If it doesn't have a good garden bar, I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Always feel like I've been downgraded if I have to
go inside.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
You know, my favorite bar if I find if it's
too busy, and there's a particular one that I go
to if it's too busy outside in the garden.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
But ere, I'm like somewhere else. I don't want to
go downgraded to the dark, dingy inside. Julian, how do
you feel about this one?

Speaker 26 (01:02:07):
I'm good, let's think it stakes. I mean, what do
you know you're paying your whether it is to meet
what the council give you for that. Do they come
along and clean it every day? I mean it's a
two yak billboard. It's a twoy billboard there straight away.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:02:23):
I mean, you know, if you've got a business and
a cafe, you you keep it spotlessly clean. Nobody's going
to come out there if it's covered in chewing gum,
all sorts of stuff. Yeah, if you're if you're in Europe,
I mean, I've been lucky to travel a fair bit.
You go to Italy, round Spain, Morocco, Turkey, you pay
a different price for eating inside as opposed to outside.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Right, so you pay a premium to eat Alfrisco.

Speaker 26 (01:02:46):
Well, look, I can't remember which way it works, but
you know I would go in and get an expresso
because there's no way you can get a decent cappuccino anywhere,
because I used to put it down to the bressas,
but it's actually to do with the milk. So try
to get to get a decent cappuccino in Italy and
it's just a waste of time. So I would have expresso,
and sometimes I would pay two euro and sometimes I

(01:03:09):
will pay one euro. And they would always ask are
you you seating outside or inside?

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
And in some places, like in Paris, the all it's
like a grand stand outside the cafes, so you're looking
out so you can look at all the beautiful people
when they walk past. And that's I'd pay for that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah, okay, for the view. You'd pay more to eat outside,
is what you say. In Paris, there's a lot to
look at.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Oh A one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Should the councils across New Zealand and after
this particular story in totrong are in the mount. Get
rid of the charges that they are laying on the
feet of the good cafes and restaurants. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty it's hap pass two.

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Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Thank you very much for lean. So we aren't talking
about a fresco dining fees have been reintroduced in Toron
and Mount Long and Nui. It has riled up the
cafe and restaurant owners. Should the fees for our fresco
dining around New Zealand? B Wave do you say yes?

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Talma? What do you say?

Speaker 19 (01:05:30):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:05:31):
Sure?

Speaker 21 (01:05:31):
The fellows here look for me.

Speaker 9 (01:05:33):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 21 (01:05:36):
It doesn't bother me what they're collecting the money for,
whether it's revenue, whether it's compliance, whether it's health and safety.
And it doesn't even bother me. With the charges that's
put in place. I think six grand a year. You
see it for next to ten twenty meters of four
space for a business that cheap rents. I think the

(01:05:58):
issue is the timing of when the port and when
everyone's struggling. Like, if your business is running top notch
and you're making a few hundred grand a year out
of your business, that six thousand dollars isn't going to
have a huge impact if you're struggling to break in
and then you just don't have the money, that that's
the issue. And I think I think it's that businesses

(01:06:21):
should pay for the faith. I think you know that
there is upkeep and stuff and wear and tear, and
it is basically spares extra footage for their business. But
it's just a manner of is this the time to
do it? And obviously you don't have to be a
rocket scientist to know that hospitality is struggling at the

(01:06:43):
moment and now it's.

Speaker 25 (01:06:44):
Not the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
You're exactly on a fee on people and businesses at
a time when we should be doing everything we can
to help out and keep them in business through through
through a tough time. Yeah, I think you're one hundred
percent right there, Talma. That's that's that's the thing that's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Really got timing that hurts. So they could reintroduce at
once the cost of living crisis is over and they
are holding it off for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
To be fair, they're not They're not they're not doing
it straight away. I mean I would say as well
that alfresco dining is part of what a city is.
And in the same way that you have pavements for
people to walk down a city and a city council
create spaces for things to happen. And one of those
things that you want to happen is for people to
be dining outside so places feel vibrant and there's a

(01:07:29):
sense of community out there and a sense of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
But shouldn't there be specific spaces within a CBD or
the central Party districts you called it earlier this week,
the CPD. Shouldn't there be specific places where alfresco dining
is the norm. What I think they're asking for in
Titron run Mount Monganui is that every cafe and restaurant
should be able to get a bit of footpath space.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Well, I mean not every cafe can, because I mean
if there's not enough room for people to get past,
you know, you can't just ram a table right in
the middle of a pavement and you've got elderly people
taking their people in wheelchairs having to go out onto
the road.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
To get past that would be ridiculous. Someone's going to try, George,
how are you?

Speaker 19 (01:08:11):
Yep?

Speaker 27 (01:08:12):
Good? In Willington, some of the business the bars and
pubs and so on, have got seats in ukor it
el fresco outside, but they have boxed their areas in
with surrounding, let's say, barriers, So you're actually sitting in
the areas that are now exclusively able to be used

(01:08:32):
by the patrons but nobody else, which means they are
effectively leasing the land for their business use and then
doing whatever they like on it. And I find that
quite interesting. When I was in Paris the North recently
on a weekend up there on a Sunday, there are
so many cafes that had all the setting outside. But

(01:08:54):
not only that, the Count's the friend I stayed with,
she said that, you know, she works with the council
and they are really supportive of the businesses and doing
everything they can to encourage businesses to survive, work well
on them. And not only that, the top of its
Servit Avenue where it goes into the square used to

(01:09:14):
be two lanes down and two lanes up. Well, they've
taken the center lanes out and turn them into power
or car parks, so there's more parking in the middle
of town, right adjacent to where people want to go.
They are really supporting people and their movements so that
businesses can thrive, compared to Wellington, which is the opposite.

(01:09:34):
Now my question with you is can you find out
for Parmerston North do they charge Old Fresco or do
they just give a permit to the actual businesses to open.
My preference is not charged for the foot space, but
to provide a permit that you pay for per year
for the use of that end, because after all, it's
only used for eight hours and it's closed up unless

(01:09:57):
it's open during the night. The rest of the night
is not being used, so you're only making use of
that land part of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
When you talk about the being cardened off maybe with
a s of shrubberies around the side, I mean the
positive part of that is because some people have been
complaining that you have people standing around the tables and
it's spewing out everywhere. I guess if you mark it off,
then that is the area that's going to be used
and there is space for people to get past.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
A nice poje of car where maybe I.

Speaker 19 (01:10:22):
Don't know if I'm still on or not, certainly are
I had another question the parking meter boxes, since they
are saying that it's a commercial use of a public footpath,
therefore you have to charge.

Speaker 27 (01:10:37):
Would the council be charging themselves for where they put
the parking meter read the units of that space there,
because now that's exclusively used by the council, can't be
walked through, and it's impeding traffic, And the same with
any street signs and anything else. I was going to
say about all the parking meters, but there's very few
of those around there, so it's basically anything that is

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actually for commercial use on a footpath should be equally
charged for the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Well, well, I believe that parking charges are theft, and
that we've all paid for the city anyway, So I
understand parking fines of people are sitting around, But the
fact that you charge the citizens of a city to
park somewhere, I've never been able to get my head
around how we let that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
It's controversial, I mean, particularly up here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
You you couldn't be very hard to wind it back now,
but it's a pretty odd idea that we've paid for
everything and then new charge us to sit there. I
get there, if you I get if you find us
for being there for too long. But I say parking
fees are theft.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
You've opened up a candle worms there. It is twenty
to three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eighty
Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
You for twenty twenty four news Talk said, be good afternoon.
You're listening to Madame Tyler and we are talking about
a fresco dining. Now, you wanted to figure out how
much it was going to cost for a new pub
cafe restaurant in Auckland. Yeah, that's right, so let's run
through it. Let's run through because I've got a calculator
right in front of the cape. So I want to
run an establishment and I want people dining out front.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Okay, I want some tables out the front.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Okay, you're right right. So I'm a council officer that
have come to ask you some questions about your outdoor dining.
So what's the name of your cafe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Let's call it Maddie's Al Fresco Grub and steam Hoole. Okay, right,
So it's sort of classy joint.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
We're gonna have to send that to a different department
at council. I think to get an okay on that one.
How how big is your outdoor area? Just give me
the square metap.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Okay, I'm gonna need It's going to be very successful.
It's gonna be pretty popular, Tyler. I'm going to say,
give me, give me twenty meters, twenty square meters.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Twenty square meters. Okay, that's a big outdoor area. So
your location are you city center? That excludes K Road
and also Newton down the bottom of town here. I
want to stay in business, so so Loo, look, put
me on K Road, mate, put me on K Road Road.
I came down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
There are obviously some issues there with THETHMFETA mean enthusiasts
walking up and down there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
But I'm gonna open up on k Okay, yep, bold,
And how long do you plan to use your outdoor area?
Six months or twelve months? Twelve months? Thank you? Twelve months?

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Oh, hang in a minute, I see what you're saying.
In the middle of the winter. No, I'm going to
be bold. I'm gonna put up some of those guess heaters.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Yeah, you're gonna roll with a twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Yeah, right, and roll with the twelve. I'm going to
I want to go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I'm consistent and offer the selfresco opportunity all year round.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Tyler, all right, So Matt Heath from cafe what was
the name of your Cafegan Maddie's Alfresco Grub and Booze Hoole. Okay,
So you're estimated total fee for Alfresco dining is three thousand,
eight hundred and thirty eight dollars per year. That's a
rental fee of three thousand, three hundred and ninety two
dollars plus a base annual fee of four hundred and

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forty six dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Okay, Well, I mean I'm planning to on a successful business,
so I could handle that, but I morally think that
I shouldn't have to pay it because I'm providing the
service to the beautiful city of Auckland of a wonderful
community alfresco alfresco experience for.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Them a lot of texts agreement. So is that all
it is for the whole year? Yeah, based on this calculator,
and anyone can go have a look at this calculator
on the council website. Okay, what if I went into
the CBD, is that is it? Because there's the challenges
of oh, we're going to change it now so we
can go cutting a happy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Road being let's be honest, a little bit stinky from
time to time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Well, no city center, that's the most expensive. Say you
want to open your cafe and pons and be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Oh yes, okay, yeah, okay, let let's open it up
on pontserb. That's where I want to be Ponto b.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Okay, instantly, you've saved more than a grand. That's twenty
four hundred ninety eight bucks in ponds and beef. It's
al Frisco dining, so.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
It is cheaper.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
It's going to be cheaper to do to open the
South Frisco situation in Ponsonby than it is in Totong. Yeah, yeah, quick, okay,
well I can see why this is good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Up and running. I can see why.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
These owners in the Mountain total are angry.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yeah, A quick couple of texts disgusting for council charging
al Fresco dining bear good enough, taken away car parking
with unnecessary cycle ways, especially in these hard economic times.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Exactly, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
I think it was probably what ninety percent say that
the councils shouldn't be charging. Yeah at right, News Talks
ed B. It is fourteen two.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Three The issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four News Talk zed B.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
News Talks EDB. We have been talking about Alfresco dining
or the fees that totong Are City Council and Auckland
City Council, christ A City Council, Wellington City Council charges
good businesses like cafes. You're very anti it, but you
actually I want to hear your story about France. But
we'll get crag in here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Just before the end of the hour, I will share
a story about being profiled in Paris. Very God well
if Alfresco dining.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Okay, so that does surprise people need to hear this, Craig,
how are you?

Speaker 9 (01:16:10):
God might hear you?

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Good? Goods? Oh so you heard met and doing your
joining your new shirt guys? Oh, thank you very much,
thank you, Craig. So first up, let's talk about the
old Fresco dining fees. Do you think the councils need
to pull their head in a bit.

Speaker 13 (01:16:23):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
And on the you picked up on what Matt was
saying about the parking fees.

Speaker 18 (01:16:29):
Parking council, I'm passionate about that is well, I mean, right,
payers have paid for all the infrastructure, right, they've not
the city right, players and the councilors just they need
to start creating income rather than just stoody grabbing it
of us all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Yeah, and now they're not even hiding the fact that
it's revenue generation. They're not even hiding any fact.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I mean because sometimes they used to argue, and I
know it's an age old discussion, but they used to
argue that they had parking fees that charge you to
park somewhere so people didn't park there all day and
to keep traffic moving and so people could pull in
in front of shops and not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
But they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
They've not the case anymore because they have it the
parking fees and times when there's absolutely no one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Around we paid I agree with Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
We paid for everything as the citizens, so we should
be able to park there. And if it's about moving
people on, then find people with the mean too long
you can park here for three hours, that's fine, But
if you're there over three hours, we find you because
but then you're actually then then it is actually an
administrative issue as opposed to a revenue generation issue.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Yeah, a little story.

Speaker 18 (01:17:37):
About I think it would re ignite city centers as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yeah, yeah, and you're not wrong. A little story about.
I mean you're quite familiar with Nelson, yep, great city. Yes,
so would have been would have been about fifteen years
ago that Richmond is another you could call it a
semi town that is about fifteen minutes outside of Nelson's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
It's confusing when you're over Nelson. It's a lot of
different towns in a straight line.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Yeah, so there about fifteen years ago, Richmond, as it
was starting to build up its ownly Town center, offered
free parking. Come out to Richmond, get free parking on Richmond. Yeah,
got on Richmond. Nelson City never offered that. Now Nelson
City is dying and Richmond, Richmond's lace.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
They go, well, I mean just basically, mall's offer free parking, right,
and people go to malls. CBDs don't offer free parking,
and that's another reason why people don't go in down there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
In fact, they had to even offer parking. You end
up in a Wilson's car park playing fifteen dollars an hour, a.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Big one in christ which as well, one of the councilors,
Jamie Goff, tried to get it running that it was
free parking for an hour. It didn't get across the line.
To me, that was a slam dunk.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
That would have brought people back into CBD as long
as it takes to shop, yeah, or go to a
movie or whatever business people want to do in town,
because that's I believe one of the primary functions of
a council is to get people to businesses and give
the opportunity for businesses to make some money.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Mary, what's your thoughts?

Speaker 28 (01:18:56):
Yeah, yes, nice to chat.

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
Nice about it.

Speaker 28 (01:19:02):
It's a very difficult situation because, yes, you're right, it's
lovely to have people in town and whatever incentives, but
the ratepayers actually pay for that land and it's akin
to a premises getting rent free use of that space,
which is a difficult one for councils to navigate.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
I think you are we back on the we're back
on the Frisco dining here.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Yeah, But I usually agree with Mary is why I
can understand for cafes and restaurants, hospitals hurting, no doubt
about it, and I agree give them as much help
as we can to get through these tough times. But
where do we draw the line, Because Mary's right on
a logical thinking about this situation. It is it's like
giving them extra floor space, and they don't have to
pay anything for that. So do we allow give them

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the extra floor space? Because what do we want from cities?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
We want people out on the streets having a good time.
We want to have vibrant communities where people get together,
and I think that's what councils are supposed to facilitate.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
And businesses open up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
They have people on the street dining, there's laughter, there's
there's good, good share in the community. I think that's
a very very important situation. I think the vibe of
a city is so important, and a Frisco dining is
so good for the vibe.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Tyler, but what.

Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
About it.

Speaker 28 (01:20:20):
They do clatter the patients so and the viaducts became
a real problem. When these premises started encroaching further and
became a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Really good time Mary became a fantastically.

Speaker 28 (01:20:30):
Good time sadly I'm the party police or I was
the part a big banned from more pubs than I can.

Speaker 26 (01:20:37):
Shake the steps.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Oh you sound like a good time, Mary, Yeah, good time,
very good. No, but just to pick up on my thought,
what them as If it's the local Bunnings, for example,
and they need more floor space to advertise the latest
bathway that they've got, is that okay for them to
just chuck a few you know? Well, I'm not showers
on the foot park. I don't think a shower on
the footpath increases the vibe of the city. Isn't the

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vibrancy of the community. But I wouldn't nickel nickel and
dimond them on having a sausages lad on the street? KFC?
Are they allowed tables? Are they allowed a butt our free?

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
I'm not a food snob, I reckon Yeah, absolutely, people
people are eating chicken on the street. Is a good
time for everyone walking past and seeing it. Wherever there
are people having a good time, other people have a
have a good time, and it raises the raises just
the the.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
The goodwill of a place. Okay, empty streets, empty streets
lead to bad things. Ross what do you reckon?

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
How are you mate, Yeah, good mate, Yeah, there's you
know Twiler.

Speaker 29 (01:21:39):
A few months ago I moved from Gore up to
esh Burton. Yep, and I've noticed Burton don't have any
parking meters at all, good parking parking for an hour
and there's only as far as I know, there's only
one paid parking car park here and it's three dollars
for the day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
It's pretty reasonable, is it. Are you angry about that?

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
No, not at all.

Speaker 29 (01:22:03):
I just told you know that they did a way
for parking meters here some time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
They said, yep, see always been wise an ish burden.
They know what they're doing down there. But but you know,
I mean, is there a difference there between getting people
into the CBD of ashburna which I don't think there
is a problem with at the moment, versus somewhere like
Auckland or christ Church or Wellington where they have a
lot more people. Well, they used to have a lot

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more people coming into the CBD.

Speaker 27 (01:22:31):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (01:22:34):
Well.

Speaker 29 (01:22:34):
Thank around crisis.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Hey, thank you so much for your call. Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
It sounds like great parking there in Ashburton. It doesn't
sound like I've got time for my hugely exciting story
about Elfresco dying in Paris. I demanded that time, Tyler,
and you've taken there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
You got forty five seconds. Have we got enough time
for it? We don't have enough time and needs detail
and need me on sea. There was a massive setup
for the story and Pari characters I need to introduce.
I can't tell the story in forty five seconds, right,
We might have time for it after three. We'll see
how we go. I hope for the good of the
listeners that we have time afterwards. You're back in the story.

(01:23:11):
We do have time for.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Jeremy Wells, who's coming into the studio, own old friend
from the Hodik and Breakfast to talk about a new
book from the Alternative Commentary Collective.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Yes, after three, the Almanac, looking forward to that new
sport and weather on its way. We will see you
very shortly. You're listening to Maddon Tiler.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
It's Matt Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
News Talks EDB Well a very special guest in this afternoon.
He's here to talk about a new book the Alternative
Commentary Collective. Almanac, Jeremy Wells, get a good a Tyler,
get a Matt good a Jerry. Of course, we did
breakfast radio together for eleven years.

Speaker 30 (01:24:00):
We did.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
We're back together to celebrate something else we do together,
the Alternative Commentary Collective. And I thought you were the
perfect person to come and talk about because you were
there from the I mean, I'm one of the authors
of the book, but you were there from the start.
You were the ACC beforehand. What is the Alternative Commentary Collective?

Speaker 31 (01:24:15):
Well, the Alternative Commentary Collective is a group of people
who were brought together to commentate sports.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
And I guess when it first started.

Speaker 31 (01:24:26):
The Alternative Commentary Collective also known as the ACC not
to be confused with the Accident Compensation Corporation, although it
often is. It often is, particularly around emails. But they
were a group of people brought together to provide an
alternative commentary. So what we were listening to at the
time was generally cricket commentary radio commentary, and we were

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listening to a lot of it, and we thought, you
know what, this is perfect. This is perfect to get
together to talk a little bit of rubbish between the commentary.
It's the perfect vehicle, you've got essentially six hours a
day to talk, and so yeah, we assembled a rag
tea bunch of people to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
And it's got to the point point where we've been
going so long that we've got a hardcovered box about it.
Round written by myself and Mike Lane and Dylan Clader,
just on that it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
Has become a behemoth. The ACC commentary, Did you think
in those early days it was going to get as
big as it's become? Certainly not, certainly not.

Speaker 31 (01:25:29):
But interestingly Matt was talking about that first ever broadcast
where we started with zero listeners. We're in a caravan
in Napier sitting there commentating New Zealand playing India. And
after the first broadcast, because it's digital, you can actually
get the actual listenership numbers back right, and the first
after the first one, I believe they're about two and
a half thousand listeners or something.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Who tuned in?

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
I was like, oh wow, yeah, okay, that's interesting because really,
to be honest, we were using the caravan as a
trojan horse to get beers into cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Grounds so we could sit and drink them with our mates.

Speaker 31 (01:26:02):
Yeah, we were already watching the game together, and so
we thought we might as well watch the game and
broadcast at the same time and go along to all
the games. This way, the company will pay for us
to turn up to the games and we can potentially
bring our own beers in because the beers at the
time that they were offering in the stadium weren't very tasty.
So we succeeded there. But then we thought, are people
going to listen? I mean, did we care if people listen?

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Probably not. Initially I didn't. It was never on my
radar whether that was going to happen or note.

Speaker 31 (01:26:29):
So we had two and a half thousand people listened
to the first broadcast and we were like, oh wow, okay,
there's people are actually interested in this. And then the
next broadcast, because it's a series, there were like four
and a half thousand, and then the next one there
were like six, then.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
There were eight, there were ten, there was like twenty forty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
It started to grow with every game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
You must have ruffled a few feathers in the cricket
commentary said a tradition of New Zealand. I mean, there's
one name that comes to mind. I think was a
bit grumpy with you guys, said Brian Waddle, Did you
ever make up with Watts? No, we attempted to a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
We offered more olive branches to the great Brian Waddle
than the entire olive growing district of New Zealand. He
wasn't having a bar of it. He took the alternative
line as an insult. He was like, why isn't there
just one commentary? But that was the point we always made.
You can listen to that commentary, but here's another option.
We can all exist. And the success of the ACC

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I believe if I'm gonna pump our own tires brought
in a lot of people to cricket that had never
listened to cricket before. Yeah, and that's the thing we
hear most is that people just wanted a different way
to listen to cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
And it's been hugely successful.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
And thank you Jeremy for inviting me to be part
of the team way back and then, because it's been
one of the most fun things you could possibly be
involved in. And if I hadn't been invited, I would
have sat back and with such raging fomo.

Speaker 31 (01:27:47):
Well, that was the reason why we included you. Because
we realized if you did it, we'd be You'd be
on your keyboard sending us messages. Though I was certainly
the least knowledgeable of cricket in the crew. Well, part
of it was definitely when we started we wanted to
do something that was weird, and it was it was
the perfect vehicle for doing it, as you know, you
got so much time to do it, but also as

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time we worked out that, oh, there's actually a great
chemistry between us and the stories that we used to tell.

Speaker 30 (01:28:14):
You learned.

Speaker 31 (01:28:15):
You really learned a lot about your fellow commentators, sometimes
too much, yeah, yeah, And in terms of the outside
and how other people felt about us. I think in
terms of Brian model, I think the thing that wound
him up the most was the fact that we all
had had suits.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
We looked like a commentary team. He didn't know that
we'd bought those seats and matching suits ourselves. We had
to go to the Helenstein's dollars. But the almanac very
proud of it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
A lot of work's gone into it. It's it's it's
an oral history, so everyone in the ACC's interview, but
it's also a history of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Sport over those ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
There's there's some fantastic images in there, some shocking ones,
one of me and Glane and a frozen banana that
I asked to be removed, but it's it's remained good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
So it's an oral history.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
There's also you know, the scoreboards from from from games.
It's it's a great read if you ask me, and
you would if I would say that, because I'm one
of the authors.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
But there's one moment I remember very vividly, and it
was a great moment with the acc but it was
the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup and you know what
I'm talking about here, stayin coming up against Grant Elliott.
Here we go, stayin to Elliot, Hey, pos.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Oh, you want to wry about it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
The passion and emotion and just pure joy from you
guys through that. We were all feeling that as a nation,
weren't we when he smacked that sex right out of
the stadium.

Speaker 31 (01:29:56):
We were so lucky to be commentating at a particular
time when New Zealand cricket was on the ascendancy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
It was on the rise and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
The fandom was on the rise as well.

Speaker 31 (01:30:07):
So we commentate and the beginning of the a SEC
just happened to conside with possibly the greatest era of
New Zealand cricket of all time.

Speaker 17 (01:30:14):
Yeah, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
We're blessed in that regard. Yeah, that was the fuel
for our success in many ways. The Alternative Commentary Collective
Almanac is out now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
It's been described as the most important book released in
this country since Michael King's book of New Zealand history.
And I can believe that it's a beautiful looking book
in bookstores now, Jeremy, good.

Speaker 7 (01:30:31):
To see it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
Oh, thanks very much.

Speaker 31 (01:30:32):
Just before I go, just a comment from a mum
who's an avid listener to the show. She's an avid
listener before you guys started. She says, good works for
a start. She's very happy with it, yep, but she
just wants to make sure that you get some female
callers on the line as well. Just a little bit
of advice there from Scheryl Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
My praise and good advice. I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Big Hello to Cheryl. Bless her and eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number for.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Cheryl to call. You can text her as well. Cheryl
nine two nights. But newstik Z b back in the mow,
A very very good afternoon to you. You're listening to
Matt and Tyler, right. So a fascinating post on Reader
and it's a subreddit as they call it, or a
page on Reddit called am I the a Hole? So?
It was a man who was asked for advice after

(01:31:17):
his girlfriend forbade him from taking a trip to Greece
with his guy friends, the lads Trip. He said, I quote,
she just said I was disrespecting the relationship by going
on the lad's trip, and that I should say no
to my friends, said the young man, who, as I said,
shared his story on Reddit. He explained that a group
of friends from university planned to take a trip abroad

(01:31:38):
to celebrate graduating in twenty twenty, but the pandemic put
a trip on the hold. Once the world got back
to normality, he wrote, we all had jobs and it
was a nightmare to align our free time. Then, earlier
this year, a friend suggested taking the long awaited trip
during the upcoming europe summer. His uncle had a villa
nice and Greece that they could use for seven to
ten days. His girlfriend, however, wasn't quite as thrilled. He

(01:32:03):
proposed going somewhere together at the start or end of
summer for five nights, but she refused. Is she wanted
to go away for longer in the middle of summer.
So this is a curly one for relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Yeah, so we want to know should you support your
partners going away and having a good time with their
friends or shut them down.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Or worse, arguably worse, insist on going along.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
I guess it's a way to question around relationships and
as a healthy relationship one where you allow your partner
to have relationships outside your relationship. I'm not talking about
sexual relationships, because that's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
A different type of that's a different topic.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
I'm talking about mates and friends and experiences that don't
involve you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
To me, absolutely critical, super healthy for a relationship to
have not so much separate groups, but the ability to
go away on what might be a boys' trip, but
also the reverse to go away on the girls trip
and not feel any guilt about that. That is something
I think is hugely important to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
So if your lovely partner to you and said I'm
going away for two weeks with my four best buddies yep,
to the Goldie yep, and you said, can I come
and she said, I'd rather you did it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
How would you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Feel I'd be absolutely okay with that. I would help
me pack your bags. Yes, I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
You gotta be care if you're not too keen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Yeah, you can't. Two weeks is a big holiday, to
be honest. I want to know how much.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Okay, let's just say for a weekend. Let's say four
days right behind it, right behind it. Yeah, And i'd
be interesting to tear if there's anyone that if someone
honestly is against that and thinks that's kind of a
betrayal of the relationship that you go away for say,
for example, you flip it around and I went to
my partner and said, I'm going away for I mean,
I do it all the time, but I'm going away

(01:33:57):
for four days with some friends on a golf trip
or something. Yeah, And they said, no, I think that's
a red flag in a relationship if they if they
want to hold onto you that tightly.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
How often would you go away with Tracy versus just
going away with the boys. Would it be mostly that
you and Tracy and maybe your group of friends go
away together, more so that you do a boys strip.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
Hmmm, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
I have to get out the numbers yet I go.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
There's I love a strange life.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
And we've just talked to Jimmy Wells about the Alternative
Commentary Collective and stuff where a lot of it's hard
to tell the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
Difference between work and fun.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
That's a boys trip.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
What do you mean like when when when they say, well,
but you're getting paid because you're going to cover a
sports event. It just so happens that it's a sports
event you wanted to go to as well.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Yeah, well, tell your situation recently is that Mave's parents
own a batch in Mobra. Sounds and beautiful part of
the country, but it is a proper batch. It's a
key we batch. It's got bunk beards, all that beautiful stuff. Now,
I asked if we could have a boy's trip at
her parents batch for the first time. So may Eve
and none of the family members who actually own this

(01:35:04):
batch are invited to the strip. And that was quite
a hard hard sell. Is that may have kind of thought, well,
it's my batch, my family's batch. I should be there
and if I'm there, then the girls are coming too.
And I said, well, this is just the boys' trip.
This is a fishing trip just for the lads. You
can do the girls trip, but because it was her batch, yeah,
I mean, did I go a little bit too far there?

(01:35:25):
Her parents were okay with it in the end.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
Yeah, I don't know that when there's a slight complication
in that one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
But she was cool with it, yeah in the end, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And it was a great Swiss call with it in
the end.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Maybe wasn't cool that it came around to it in
the end and it allowed it to happen, So I guess.
So the question is is it in a healthy relationship
do you go away on separate trips together?

Speaker 7 (01:35:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Do you do you party individually? Do you go boys
and girls trips? And if you don't think that's that's
something you should do, why why oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty some plenty of plenty of good teachs coming
through on nine two ninety two. Let's get into this
is going to be a great shat. It is twenty
two past three.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
eighty on news Talk ZB Good afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
So is it okay to go on a lad's trip
or a girl's trip while you're in a relationship. It
was a post on Reddit's a young man asked for
advice after he was invited to a lad's trip and
his girlfriend wasn't too happy about that. Brenda, what's your view?
Hey you Brenda, I might have to come back to Brenda.

(01:36:39):
Quick text here from Tammy said, gooday, guys, I think
it depends on if the lady has ever been on
holiday with her partner and is it your combined savings?

Speaker 21 (01:36:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Fair, right, so you've never if you've never taken your
partner on a holiday at all, and then you go
on a boys trip.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, I can see.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
I can see how your your lovely partner might be going.

Speaker 30 (01:37:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
So as like the question you asked before, Tyler, what's
the ratio?

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
So is it one trip to one away with your partner?

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Does it have to be fifty to fifty or do
you think it should be seventy five to twenty five
in favor of your partner or vice versa.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Yeah, it's a good point though. If you've got the
holiday savings for you and your partner or your wife
or your husband, and then the husband comes to you
and say, hey, the boys have invited me out on
a fishing trip. Can I just tap into the holiday
savings accounts? I think that's probably a step too fast, Sue.
What do you reckon? Hey you Sue? Oh, he might

(01:37:36):
be having some trouble with the phone lines there, Andrew,
I'll tell you what. We're gonna get to the headlines
very shortly. We'll try that again. No, we're definitely having
some phone issues. Quick couple of texts and then we'll
get to the headlines. Hey, guys, I supported my wife
going away on the condition she didn't come back from Darren. Hi, Darren. Oh,
so I think horrible Darren. I think we've got you, now,

(01:37:59):
do we, Sue?

Speaker 14 (01:38:00):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
So, yeah, how are you problem?

Speaker 17 (01:38:05):
Guys?

Speaker 32 (01:38:05):
Tell are you?

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Yeah? Very good? So what's your take on the lad's
trip or the girls trip?

Speaker 32 (01:38:10):
Nothing wrong with them? Absolutely nothing wrong with them. When
I was married and I'm widowed, I'm not divorced or anything.
When I was married, my husband and I we would
do things together. We always planning things together, So planning
things together was our default position. But if something came up,
like a girl's trip away or a guy's weekend away

(01:38:32):
or whatever, we would do those on our own You've
got to have your own interests as well. You can't
be just doing everything as a unit. You've got to
be a part. And are you always used to look
at it? I used to love it when he went
away because he was away having fun. And I if
you love someone, why would you ever stop them having fun?

(01:38:55):
Loving them is part of making their lives happy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Do you think it's an insecurity thing if you don't
want your partner to go away on a boys or
a girl's trip. Do you think it's it's you think
that maybe they'll meet another girl or boy on that
boy's trip and not come back.

Speaker 32 (01:39:12):
Yeah, the problem is all from that scenario that you
read out at the start.

Speaker 20 (01:39:16):
It was it was all a woman's problem the guy,
you know, am I the ahole?

Speaker 32 (01:39:20):
No, he's not, absolutely not. You know, It's a lot
of it is someone else's insecurity. They feel threatened in
the relationship for whatever reason, whether whether there is something
to justify or it's just themselves. There is a deeper
problem than just saying no to someone going away on

(01:39:41):
a holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
And so if you had some pretty decent girls trips.

Speaker 32 (01:39:45):
In your time, Oh, I'm a lot younger. Gosh, I'm
past it now, but I was younger absolutely. You know,
I went away to the Cook Islands with friends on
a girl's week. I've been to Hawaii on a girl's week.
I've done a lot of things in Australia several times
just for girls. And quite thinkly, you know, my husband

(01:40:06):
used to say he couldn't think of anything worse then
going away doing what we wanted to do, not lie
on the beach and eat.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Maybe drinking. Yeah, part of me actually thinks, and I'll
get a little bit deep here, but I actually think
it's probably more important for fellers to have those boys
weekends than for the ladies. And the reason I say
that it's yes yet sexist, but as guys get older,
and we've seen it gets a lot harder to maintain
those friendships for fellers and to make new friends. It's

(01:40:37):
just the facts, right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
It seems that females are better at holding their friendships
and keeping them to a deeper level. And you know,
the stats play out that men disassociate as they get
older and then they rely.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
On their partners to organize a lot of stuff. So
it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
It's good for the male mental health, and that's a
good thing to say to your partner as well. This
is a mental health weekend. It's not golf, it's not partying,
it's not all about the drinking. This is about mental health.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
That's a great line. I think you've cracked this one.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty to hear you are from
you on this one. Was this guy the jerk in
this situation? Or was it his girlfriend who was the jerk?
It's twenty nine past three deuce talks.

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(01:42:28):
Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Thank you, Rayleen. It is twenty eight to four.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
We're just talking about boys trips and girls' trips and
as healthy for relationships if you head off with your
mates without your partner every now and then. And I've
just had an interesting things happened. I just realized it's
happening this time. I just texted Tracy and I said,
you want to go to Oasis. We should book some
tickets to Wassis in Australia yep.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
And she said put it on the list of.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Holidays we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Does that mean I can now transition that trip into
a boys trip by texting my mate Prong. I was
just about to do it and say, mate, do you
want to go to Oasis? Because she's sort of poop
pooed it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
She hasn't said no though she said put it on
the list. I think that's poop oing it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:04):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
I know that you're a brave man to just already
without saying because you're going to go back to Tracy
and say, hey, are you in or out? Just one
hundred percent? Because I need to know because Prong wants
to He's a massive Oasis fan fan. Yeah, and it
might be. You're not going to say it's going to
be a boys trip. You just want to say Prong
wants to come along.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
It's an Oasis trip, that's what it is. And you
you were lukewarm on it, so it's now now it's
turned into a boys trip.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
Slash awaysis trip?

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
I don't know, Brenda, how are you?

Speaker 19 (01:43:32):
Hi?

Speaker 28 (01:43:32):
Good?

Speaker 33 (01:43:32):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Girls trips? Are you are? You're a big fan of
doing a girls trip without your partner?

Speaker 7 (01:43:39):
Nah?

Speaker 21 (01:43:40):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Nah good you?

Speaker 19 (01:43:43):
No?

Speaker 26 (01:43:43):
No no no no no no no no.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
What about him doing boys trips without you?

Speaker 25 (01:43:48):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:43:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
So all trips have to be together together it or
never the couple that plays together stays together. You regain Brenda.

Speaker 34 (01:43:56):
Absolutely, that's it.

Speaker 33 (01:43:58):
We're represented the one mate.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Brenda, what are your what are your fears about a
boy's trip without your partner going on a boy's trip?

Speaker 33 (01:44:08):
I would I wouldn't say fear was just sometimes when
you're going to be on your own, you get off
track and you know you have too much fun that you.

Speaker 15 (01:44:16):
Forget, like if you can go off track easily.

Speaker 16 (01:44:19):
CoA, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
I've never heard of a boys trip going off track.

Speaker 33 (01:44:28):
For next minute, who your woman is?

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Your boys trips are famously well behaved a fears that
sounds like an incident that happened in the past. Brenda.
Was there one boy's trip that just went a wee
a wayward and you said, no more, no more? Yes,
you learn from Okay, okay, can you tell us more?

Speaker 30 (01:44:51):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
All right, take a seat on the couch. And what happened, Branda?
What was the boys trip?

Speaker 33 (01:44:57):
Well, actually it wasn't so much a boys trip. It
was actually a team.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Yes, yep, yep.

Speaker 33 (01:45:05):
And you know me and Panna back then we shared
everything and everything. So he went away spin a little
bit and I didn't know anything.

Speaker 8 (01:45:14):
To do with the yacht.

Speaker 33 (01:45:15):
I didn't know there was a body in the yacht
until I saw the transaction.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
Oh head transaction, and how much money was spent, I.

Speaker 33 (01:45:24):
Would say one night, probably almost two grand.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
I say, yeah, so if it's so, But would you
sport a support.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
A fiscally responsible boys trip where everything had been outlined
in advance and you were across the details?

Speaker 34 (01:45:39):
Oh why not? Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Yeah, And that's a fair point that Brenda made of
May went off on the girl's trip, say, to the
Gold Coast, and then came back and I look at
the accounts and it's down ten grand because she went
to the casino and got a bit silly. I would
be pretty upset by that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Yeah, but that opens up a path for you to
behave in a certain way on your next boys trip.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
Doesn't it like it's not bad?

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I mean ken, I mean, I know in relationships that
really works up that those brownie points don't really seem
to be transferable.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Yeah experience, Yeah, yeah, not for the lads anyway.

Speaker 25 (01:46:13):
George good Fellows, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
So you're a massive pro on the lads trip without
the without the wife.

Speaker 25 (01:46:22):
I've certainly been on a few boys trips that have
gone off track. As the last caller she'd met, I'm
a converted radio hope Ay listeners. So you're doing a
great job with the new show. I really like it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Welcome a board, George.

Speaker 25 (01:46:33):
Well we have made as we've got well, my wife anyway,
she's part of They call it a book club. Anyway,
I'm not sure how many books they actually speak.

Speaker 30 (01:46:42):
About, George George.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
There's there's there's there's a test on a on a
on a book club. If a book club ends up
in a nightclub, it was never a book club.

Speaker 25 (01:46:51):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure plenty of that happens as well.
What we do is we're actually doing quite good mates
with all the fellas or the plus ones within that
group of mates. So we've done our fishure of trips
and what have you. Is a is a group of guys.
I think it's actually quite healthy. We when all the
couples tend to know each other, you know, because then
you get a bit of the girls go off and

(01:47:12):
do their fun, the guys off their fun. But you
can inevitably get events I don't know, willing to cut
races where everyone comes together. I mean, it's good. So
it's not certainly not a boys trip where the girls
don't know who they are or vice versa, and it's
it's quite a you know, we're in the stage of
bringing up young family and I'm sure you guys can
comment on listen, the past is sctually quite healthy. A

(01:47:33):
little bit of time away from for either partner. But
don't get me wrong, it seems to be a common
occurrence that when when we go around trip to our
onnes are a bit more larger and expensive, consistent monthly
catch ups that the.

Speaker 8 (01:47:46):
Girls did have.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Yeah, well, the thing with you know, and male mental
health is an issue in this country, and so it's
female mental health.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
But as we were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
Before, men can tend to not do the work it
takes to keep friendships going. Yeah, and there's a term
that people are using our call being the shirpa, and
it's being that the guy in your friend group that
organizes things to get people together, that gold does those
because the stats on men dying alone and the stats
on men having no one to reach out to, no

(01:48:16):
one close outside of their relationship and if their relationship ends,
having no one at all outside of work, and especially
going into retirement, A lot of men men end up
on their own, and that's because the work hasn't been
done to get together. And as much as a boys
strip may just be an absolute rack up, it's stories.
It's keeping friends together. And I think it's a very

(01:48:38):
very important part of your life, your relationship, and you
want to be a great partner, but you also want
to have a great group of friends, and you want
to put the work into both areas of your life nicely.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
See, because fellers buy and large, I mean some fellows
do this, but if you haven't a bit of a
crap day, I would assume there'd be a lot of
fellows out there in New Zealand that wouldn't ticks their
mate and said, had a real crappy day. Can I
just come over and we just watch some some crappy
tea together. Guys don't do that. Girls do that very well.
Guys need an excuse to get together, and sometimes that

(01:49:07):
excuse is having a beer and a post and they've.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Sort of done some research on it to say that
men don't get together face to face and this is
alcohol involved, but they don't get to face to face
and talk about their lives. And maybe go that little
deeper bit unless they're doing something else, and that's why
a golf trip's so so good, or doing something where
they're doing something together. They've got a reason to be together.
And then the talking and if someone's got a problem

(01:49:29):
might come out of it bit deeper into the trip.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Yeap bang on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
up next speaking about boys trips.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Out on boys trips of course stagnoo's and I've got
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Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
This is going to be good. Twenty to four, it's done.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
You take on talk bag Matt Heath and Taylor Adams
afternoons have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty
news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
They'd be very good. Afternoon we're talking about lad's trips
and the girls trip. Are they healthy for a relationship
and you how do we tease about was it the
ultimate stagdoo?

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Yeah, Look, I'm gonna this is gonna be controversial and
a lot of people say that's not a stag do
and it's and it's and it's purity.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
But I've been on a few stagdoos recently that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Have had an innovation which will be a modern innovation
and evolves maybe eight hours with the boys, but then
the stag Doo meets up with the Hen's party.

Speaker 5 (01:50:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
So both teams go out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
From about lunch time and then and then at a
set time, the hens party and the stag do meet
and that's when that's when sparks fly, ensured, that's when
things get real. And that is a hell of a
hell of a good time. And there's probably Stagdoo purists
out there that go, no, no, no, no no. Stagg
is a stag doo hens but his hands with never

(01:50:54):
the twain shall meet. But but I say try it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
So with the groom to be and the bride to
be they meet up as well. Yeah, that's bold, it's old.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
It's like a crashing of two oceans. A lot happens,
a lot goes on. It's also a great opportunity for
people that are maybe single to maybe it's a great
way to meet great singles party as well.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Craig, how you doing okay?

Speaker 18 (01:51:20):
Bad?

Speaker 8 (01:51:20):
I thought my freend Stagg. Do you think was a
little bit worse than that. But anyway, we basically he
got a bit too much of the track. We put
him on a bus from Hamilton to Wllington with a
suitcase and all we have was bras and songs when
you went down there. So we said, oh, you won't
go to Wellington and we're problem in the bussy kind
of passed down the lift.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
I've been involved in some terrible staggers with terrible things
that happened. That's kind of thing that the Hens Party
might stop. Actually what happens is the Hens Party turns
up and their worse behaved. Yeah, and they actually instigate
the stuff, but thet they're going to be sensible, but
that way worse. But they're implicit and anything that happens,
you know, it's plausible deniability. It's sheared, she had guilt
and she had responsibility.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
So the lad anyway, Yeah, you're going to get the leader.

Speaker 8 (01:52:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a good idea because I
reckon you spend time oay from me and you tend
to appreciate them more. In my relationship, my partner bumped
into her whole boyfriend and moved up to the north
Old years ago and she asked me he wanted to
take me out for a dinner to catch up, and
I was quite happy with that, and she goes, you sure,
that's okay, and I see that I trust you. So

(01:52:25):
he's got to be trusting the relationship. But then on
the other side of things, as my workmate I work
with went fishing every weekend, every fortnighte with some one
of the people from work, and there's always like, I'm
going fishing with Sam. So the wife's like, oh, you're
fair enough, We've been doing it for years. And then
one day they caught a really large fish and he
posted the photo on Facebook and he's Sam and a

(01:52:46):
bikini hold the fish, and the whites like Sam and
he goes, oh, yes, Samantha.

Speaker 7 (01:52:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:52):
They didn't go down too well from their relationship after that.

Speaker 24 (01:52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:55):
I mean, if you trust your partner good enough to
be in a relationship, you should trust them to go
out and they should be able to know their boundaries
and go over there. I mean, there should be mutual respect.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
I reckon between couples absolutely, Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
If you love someone, set in the free regularly, and
if it's meant to be, they come back again.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
I think there's some kind of thing that is that
a sting. I think there's my best thing. So I
think it does help if your partner or wife knows
that the friends knows the friends you're going with a
lad trip on, you know what I mean, So that
there's an added sense of trust that, yes, there's always
one person in the group that can lead the others astray,
but as long as your partner wife knows who that

(01:53:33):
person is, they can take the full heat of anything.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Well you want as a Tyler in your life, someone
that your partner will know is a responsible person, and
you can say Tyler's going to be on the trips
and then your partner will go, oh, I guess it's
going to be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Then it's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of
pressure on Tyler. Scotty, how you doing good?

Speaker 10 (01:53:50):
Good?

Speaker 7 (01:53:51):
This brings back like one of your book club groups.
We've got a bunch of boys who've been operating for
about sixteen years now doing boys travels. Yeah, and it
comes off one of the greatest stories amongst our group people.
We've got about six we always talk about. One dates
back to starting about two two thousand and eight when
they announced the New Zealand had the Rugby World Cup.

(01:54:12):
So the boys sat around and said, right, let's start
putting in six seven hundred bucks a year. We'll do
a voyas tour when the Rugby World Cups comes around.
So yeah, allocate the games. We decided to go. We're
up in Auckland. We decided to go to the furthest
game away from Auckland that we could end of the cargo,
and we worked out a road trip after that eleven
days so fro about eighteen months. Once we had the

(01:54:34):
venue sorted out, we planned. We planned whitewater rafting, we
planned jet boating, we planned skiing, we planned trips out
of TN. Craft beer visits, country pub visits, bit a hunting,
bit of quad biking. Everything.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Now I beat Scotty that you had a fantastic time.
But when you got back, I bet you were pleased
to see your partner.

Speaker 7 (01:54:56):
I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
I feel like you're about to get to the punchline
of your story.

Speaker 7 (01:55:02):
I came off, We're getting there, We're getting there. So
three weeks out, three weeks out, one of the wives,
who is good mates with my wife, says, do you
know what the boys are doing on their road trip,
and my wife says, yep. And the other wife says, no, no, no,
do you know what they're really doing on the boy's trip?
And my wife says, yep. She said no, no, no, no,

(01:55:25):
no no. Do you really know what they're really really doing?
And my wife says, I've heard nothing but planning for
this bloody trip for the last three years. Everything they're
doing down to the nearest minute. And the other wife says,
they're going jet boating, they're going skiing, they're going paragliding,
they're going hunting, they're going to publish it. And my
wife says, you're I know all of that, and she says,

(01:55:46):
did it to My husband only told me about the
three weeks. I just thought they're going down to watch
two games of rugby. Fast forward, the trip goes off
without her. There was a great boys tour, boys having
fun with their mates, mental health or good YEA four
weeks later, the buddy's wife goes to him into a

(01:56:08):
cruise exhibition in the city and he says, oh, yeah, okay,
that sounds good. I'm going to go for a bike ride,
so we'll catch up later on. She comes back that afternoon.
She says, he said, hell was the exhibition the ships
of the Cruise X though she says absolutely fantastic. I
booked a cruise for three weeks around the Mediterranean.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
That's good, that's that's strong, healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
But the deeper part of that story is and well,
the vice there is b if you're going to go
on a trip, if you all the information is out
there and you're very careful because I mean, I've been
involved in the situation before where you go you don't
want to give the full trip because you don't want
to sound it too fun, and you can actually get
into this thing when because a lot of my trips,

(01:56:54):
as I said before, a kind of work trips, kind
of boys trips again of mixed and mixed together, and
you can get into the state where you're pretending that
it's worked so hard that and I've met up with
my mates at the before we go, and we've been
pretending so hard to have partners that this is work
and we don't really want to go. We've been selling
that story so hard at home that we've arrived at

(01:57:14):
the airport and going, oh God, this trip and then
one I'm go, go this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
You go, oh, that's right, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
I've been selling that. I've been selling that this is
a terrible time and I really want to stay with you.
I have to do this, and I started believing it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
Crystal, how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:57:30):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
What's your thoughts?

Speaker 30 (01:57:33):
I was just really got that saying that you were
you were talking about if you love something, you let
it go and if it's it will come back, and
if it's not, it will never come back.

Speaker 3 (01:57:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
So if you love someone, if you love someone, you
let them go on a boy's trip, and if they
never come back from the boy's trip, it was never
meant it was.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
It was never a real thing. It was never love.
Insightful Crystal, you must have had some good girls trips.

Speaker 26 (01:58:03):
Oh no, I haven't had any good girls trips.

Speaker 30 (01:58:04):
I've been had some good trips doing with my husband
and when he hit cancer. So yeah, I've been a
pretty busy among of parents and kids. So it's not
my time to have trip dogs to do that when
I retire, Crystal.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Yeah, sure you do. Morris, how you doing?

Speaker 34 (01:58:23):
Yeah, I'm good. Things so good. So I just wanted
to I had been hearing quite a bit that's you
know what's been said, and it's all brilliant. It's all
about refreshing your relationship and you know, making that stronger
by having the freedom to do stuff and trust is
a big deal in any relationship. I met another guy

(01:58:48):
run a breakfast men's breakfast and we have up to
sixty men come along and we have speechs who are
experts in their areas such as mental health, men's men's
physical health, like all the examinations that they should have, prostrate,

(01:59:11):
heart or all of that very current things that you know,
they some of these topics are in the news, so
you know, we line up someone to talk about it.
In fact, in a few weekends time, we're going up
to Lake or sorry, down to Lake Coleridge and we've

(01:59:32):
got about forty five men that are coming and once
again we'll be talking about current topics. And you know,
these guys and myself, you know, we get so much
out of just being able to sit down, face to
face talk to guys about some of the things that

(01:59:55):
that we face because you know, we all get older
and all of our our bodies start to you know,
need particular attention to keep it functioning and all the
rest of it, so to be open and honest about
what we're going through and what sparked all of this
sort of stuff. As I had a brother in law

(02:00:16):
who didn't mention anything that was happening in his body.
When they sort of found out it was too late.
He had bell cancer and it was far too late here.
They could do nothing for him and he passed away
way before his time.

Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
Yes, I mean they're critical the men's friend groups or
the men shed which I've seen as a big thing
up here in Auckland. They are critical for fellers as
they get a bit older. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
And also you know we're talking about a boy's trips,
but it's also a boy's lunch or a girl's lunch
or a boy's breakfast. Doesn't have to be three days
in a golf trip and an absolute rip up. It
might just be getting together and having a chat.

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
Yep.

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