Full Show Podcast: 16 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello all your great New Zealanders and welcome to the
Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast. Great show today, Tyler, we
found out what the what the quintessential salt of the Earth,
New Zealander is.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, a lot of discussion about where the Christopher lux
In our Prime Minister is in touch with the common man.
I think the consensus was he's probably is in touch
for the most part, maybe not to the same level
with Sue john Key.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, according to the z B listeners, I'd like to
be with Luxon though, Yeah, yeah, well you'd like to
ever be with Luxeon? Yeah, he won't ever be with you.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, because he doesn't drink.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
He doesn't drink. Yeah, I don't think he's ever drunk.
I don't think he's ever had a drink. We're this
interesting situation recently when we had Luxon and Leehart together
to see if they're the same person because seen them
no one had ever seen them in the same room together.
Turns out that they they are different people. One of
them had a lot of beers and the other one hadn't.

(01:11):
That's a good way to tell them apart very much.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
So, so what was the common man? In the end
did we decide who?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
We decided that the common man was Dame Lisa Carrington.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Great, great, just a spoiler alert for the pot.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think that's where we decided that the ultimate common
common soult of the earth kiwi that we all aspire
to be is Dame Lisa Carrington or Willy upiad.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
And we can all get behind that message. That was
a spicy chat. Another chat that went quite deep was
the idea of heartbreak leave that introducing it in the
Philippines where when you have quite a nasty breakup you
can go to your boss and say, hey, I'm feeling
pretty rough my life's and bits because I've just split
up with my girlfriend or wife or husband. I need
a few days off.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Controversial certainly was fired up the phone calls. Some people
said hard enough and go and everyone's becoming soft. Other
people said, you guys are being marcho because I said, look,
the best thing you can do when you going through
a breakup is keep your dignity and find those rails.
And those rails and life are things that you can positive.

(02:15):
Thank god, I said over and over again the podcast.
Wait to listen to it. But it's like going to
work is a rail you can hold onto your life
so you can move forward and reach out to your
friends and your buddies. But go to work, which.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Is a great trade. But interesting that you got challenged
on that by a few callers, female callers.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, the female callers came for me, which is great.
Love the female callers.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Great debate, and finally love this chat the gym Meticut.
This is on the back of you spashing it out
at the gym at the moment, but we all know
that bad behavior and the list that you created at
the end. We actually got a lot of text from
Jim Oas saying we need that list now because we're
going to put it right on the front door.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
That'sult You won't find that out for a full one
hour and fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
You can fast forward, apparently, but no, no, no, you
got to listen to the whole thing to get the context.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
All of it is amazing. All it is not even
not even a quarter of a second of downtown in
today's podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
So that you go, or just just to give you
a wee taste on what was your number one pet Peeve?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
The seagullers.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, the seagullers. That's groups of people that stand around.
Five mates go to the gym together and they seagull
around a machine, each having turns. Just split off into twoes, mate,
split off into twos. Get it done. The gym is
not a social place. It is a social place. Sorry,
So I'd say that's great to talk and chat all
that kind of stuff, but you don't go there just
to hang around, stand around like you're at a barlin.

(03:39):
You're there to get it done. You're there to get jacked,
all right.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Didn't you say that on the show? I mean that
was beautiful, mate, say that on the extra radio show
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I was from yesterday. I was going to try and
remember that what the French expression is, which is stairway wit,
which is when you remember you finally work out what
you meant to say after the fact. I'll find out
what that saying is for tomorrow's but this is what
this intro is going to be. It's going to be
stairway where I finally come up with what I meant
to say on.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Here, and we ended up talking about noud to a
lot more than I expected today.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, I came out in favorite. You were anti it,
So there we go. All right, Okay, here's another edition
of the Matt and Tyler Afternoons pod.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk Sebby.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Good Afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome into the show. Matt and
Tyler with you until four pm.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Maddie get a Yeah, huge day in my household? Certainly
is my son is buying me a beer tonight. My
son is going to take me out and buy me
a beer. He's eighteen today, one eight. Can I just
say to anyone that's got young kids, it goes so
incredibly fast. I know it's a cliche, but I'm just
I'm tearing up today looking at pictures when he was

(04:56):
just little me. At one point he could sit in
my hand. He could literally sit in my hand, and
now I can basically sit in his hand.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Mate. That's a beautiful moment, isn't it. Eighteen and buying
his first beer for you? What's he going for? What brand?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, I don't know. He's a big fan of get gammis. Yeah,
so he might be buying me that, but you know,
there's is a little bit of stuff around there. He's
got to get his ID together. But I've seen this before, actually,
I've seen that situation where you can you can buy
a beer and you want to buy a beer for
your dad and your mum, and you head up and
it's a big moment and it's just the swagger and

(05:28):
you and your step. But they don't ask you for ID.
It's just the way you walk up to the bar
when you when you're when you're completely and utterly legit,
where they just serve it to you. But it's going
to be a big, big moment.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Or Charlie's a strapping lad, isn't he six point two?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah he's up there. Yeah he's pretty buff. He's a big,
big guy. But yeah, boy, it goes so incredibly fast,
and as much as you're proud and the joy and
seeing this big fellow walking around, you just miss all
those all the different moments in the life and you
love to live them over.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Again, beautifully said mate, And enjoy it tonight. That's going
to be good. Right on to the show. After three o'clock,
you want to talk about Jim etiquette.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, that's right. I'm going to the gym again because
I've got some time in the morning. Now I'm doing
the afternoon show after doing breakfast for a very long time,
and it's a real pleasure to be going to the
gym in the morning. It's a great way to start
the day and being lucky enough to have the time
to do that with their show starting at twelve, as
you know. But there's some terrible geomatic etiquette going on,
the amount of time people crowding around machines and each

(06:30):
having a go with friend groups, so they hold a
machine for a very long time. There's people between sets
just sitting on their phone taking their sweet time, just
doom scrolling through TikTok or whatever punishing social media they're on,
rather than just taking the amount of time you need
to rest and then doing your next set.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
This is going to be a great chat. That's after
three o'clock. After two o'clock, we want to talk about
a bill that's been introduced in the Philippines. They are
calling it Heartbreak Leave, so it's in recognition of the
negative emotional baggage that can come after a relationship breakup.
It's getting a lot of traction online, and I've got
to say online fifty to fifty whether it's a good

(07:12):
idea for other countries to look at something like heartbreak
leave and fifty percent the other way that get out
of town if you have a breakup, just you know,
get back to work, get some routine.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
No one would question bereavement leave. Yeah, I mean fair enough,
heartbreak leave. I mean my thoughts on this and I'll
go into this more after two o'clock. But it's like
the best thing you can do when you go through
a breakup is just get back to the things you know,
the things that you can do move forward. Your job
is something you can do that's positive. You keep your dignity,
You get on with life, and you show yourself that

(07:43):
you've got a future and you build it. Sitting at
home moping is the worst thing you can possibly do
for yourself. And as if you're an employer, you might go, well,
or do I want someone just moping around the office.
You probably don't. But from the perspective of the employee,
I say get back on the wagon straight away, no
days off, get into it. I think there's a lot
around people work hard well, A lot of people know.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
We'll talk about that more after two o'clock each year,
because right now we want to talk about this. One
news Verian poet showed just over half of people think
the Prime Minister Christopher Luckxon has lost touch with voters.
The poll of one thousand people found fifty one percent
believed he was out of touch, thirty seven percent thought
he was in touch, and twelve percent didn't know or
preferred not to say not. Surprisingly, Green Party supporters were

(08:27):
most likely to say that the Prime Minister had lost
touch eighty eight percent, followed by the Labor Party.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
So as the Green Party supporters really answering the question
or just anything to do with Christopher Luxon, they're going
to slam yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Luxon went on to reject the idea that he's lost
touch with voters, saying he was out and about meeting
people most days around the country. I understand this is
a quote from him. I understand New Zealanders are doing
it incredibly tough at the moment, and I'm working hard
to make sure I deliver results for them. But what
we want to talk about is what does it mean
to be in touch with the common man?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Surely we want our leaders to have been successful at
some point. Yeah, as being wealthy a bad thing? Or
is it? Surely it's a good thing to have success
scessful people. And look, I know a lot of people
are out of touch. They have no cash because they
spend their entire time in social media bubbles. So out
of touch isn't necessarily a factor of wealth? Yeah? Can
wealthy p be in touch? Is this just tall poppy

(09:20):
or does it mean something else all together? I mean
it's kind of a strange question to ask, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
How do you know?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's a very pointed question, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
And how do you define what is in touch with
the common man? Who is the common man? But for you,
if we focus on Christopher lux And as our prime minister,
and you're in a different scenario because you've met him
face to face on numerous occasions. But judging on what
you see, and this is hard to do, but judging
on what you see on telling and what you read,
do you think he is in touch with most New Zealanders?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, I think he's a very personable person. Personable person,
that's a strange thing to say, But he's got good
chat he's interested in other people. Yes, he's you know,
I'm a broadcaster, so that might be slightly different. But
he definitely seems to be interested in the wider world
in my experience, take politics out of it. He's definitely
into sport and he'll give you a great chat about

(10:09):
rugby and cricket.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
And I didn't know that about Christopher Luxon that he
is quite a sport brain. He knows a lot about rugby,
a lot about cricket.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, so is that in touch? It's pretty in touch
if you're talking to me.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, it's going to be a good chat. I eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Keen to hear from you? Is our prime minister? In touch?
Does it depend on which way you vote? Love to
hear from you? Nine two niney two is the text number.
Let's get into it. It is thirteen past one.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
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Speaker 3 (10:42):
B used talk z B. It is a quarter past
one and we are talking about this poll out from
one News and Varian showing that fifty one percent of
key we think that Christopher Luxon is out of touch?
What do you reckon? I eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call, Karen. How are you
this afternoon?

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (10:59):
Bloody good, Tyler?

Speaker 8 (11:01):
How's it going?

Speaker 5 (11:01):
All right?

Speaker 9 (11:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Very good? You reckon Luxon is out of touch?

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Hey, he is in.

Speaker 10 (11:09):
Certain cases. But well, I think it's probably a I
think it's it's probably a good thing, really, because I reckon,
the most in touch pime minister we had was actually
little English and look out there we went.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Hun So yeah, you wouldn't say John Key was pretty
in touch with the average New Zealander. I mean the
thing that was said about John Key a lot is
he's a guy you'd like to have a beer with,
bring around, you know, invite to the barbecue. Where the
people would say that about Christopher Luxe and not to
the same extent. And I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, Christoph Luxon won't have a beer with you because
he doesn't drink alcohol at all.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, well you can have a zero zero.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, I mean, what does it mean, Karen? What do
you think it means to be in touch or to
be out of touch?

Speaker 10 (11:57):
Well, in the English's case, I remember the first thing
I've seen him on the TV was sharing a sheep
and I thought about us in touch as you could
get sheep, And two weeks later I couldn't believe it.
I thought, I thought it was great things he did

(12:17):
put in Zealand. But yeah, he was so in touch.

Speaker 9 (12:21):
He was so in touch.

Speaker 10 (12:22):
New zeal And got rid of him.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah. Well, I mean he actually arguably won that election.
If they hadn't in a non MP situation, he definitely
would have won that election. He was pretty in touch
with his walk runs and his spaghetti on pizza, spy
on pizza. That that was pretty in touch. I mean
spaghetti on pizza that could have been looked at a
play so play to try and make him look in touch.

(12:47):
But there's no doubt that Bill English was. He was
soul of the earth.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
He was from Dipton. Yeah, absolutely. Just on the question
a wealth care and do you think that comes into
it when you look at being in touch with the
common man or common New Zealander, does money come into
the equation?

Speaker 6 (13:05):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (13:05):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. Prime ministers should be role models
and I think, yeah, all this all this rubbish around
money like, I know, money isn't the only source of happiness,
but if you're going to live a long, prosperous life

(13:30):
in New Zealand, is definitely going to make things easier.
And any any wealthy person is going to admit that
to you. And I just think, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's
the reading with a bit of wealth?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, I mean the idea that because you're wealthy, you are,
by virtue of that out of touch. That doesn't seem
to make sense to me. I mean, you don't know
what other people do in their life, who they interact with,
and I don't know. Arguably you want our politicians to
have been successful in some way and and and to
have risen above the great unwashed like myself.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, well, there hasn't been a prime minister in the
last thirty years. I would say that hasn't had what
would be called a decent amount of wealth. Yeah, but
Helen Clark just Sindra Adern, Sir John Key, Well, now
Christal Reluxeon.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I guess you're comparing sort of career politicians over people
that have been in the business world and come back
into it. But we don't have that thing in New
Zealand where you're a lord. That's like in the UK
where you've come from, you know, the upper class. I
mean John Key, you know, obviously famously grew up in
a state house and Luxon christ Church Howard, I mean

(14:46):
his parents were did okay, but he's done better than
they have. Yeah, so you know, arguably he's he's pulled
himself up from something to something else.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think politicians have a harder time now by trying
to get that cut through, trying to present themselves like
they understand regular kiwi's because we have been over the
last four years since the pandemic, incredibly tribal now, and
I think it is harder to get that cut through
on the six o'clock news or in the papers. So
when you try and compare Christopher Luxon to John Key,

(15:16):
I think that's an unfair comparison to how they are
when they're in front of you face to face. Do
they come across as good people? Are they interested in you?
I do think Christopher Luckxon has to think he is.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah. I think he is a person that can hold
a very very warm conversation with anyone that he talks to.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call twenty past one, Putting the.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 11 (15:42):
The interventionism of the Supreme Court New Zealand Initiative chair
and senior fellow Roger Partridge is well, I'm glad somebody's
finally got onto this because this has been concerning me
for absolutely ages. Is it the individual group of judges
at the Supreme Court level that we just happen to
have got some sticky beaks or is it the court itself?

Speaker 12 (15:59):
It's more the current judges. We've always had activist judges
within our senior courts. The movement and has gained momentum
over the last few years. A court that's much more activist,
to the point where we're out at the big boy
to the riskers. They're perceived a substituting their own values
for those of them. I'm a law it's obvious that
they're not equipped.

Speaker 13 (16:17):
To do that.

Speaker 11 (16:18):
Back tomorrow at six am, The Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Twenty three past one. Matthew Good afternoon.

Speaker 14 (16:27):
Good Ay, Tyler good O. Maddie, how are you?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Maddy?

Speaker 14 (16:30):
I'm pretty good? Pretty good. Firstly, you guys are out
of touch for eating in the studio. That's definitely well,
definitely leaving that, leaving that tun it in there awesome.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well, well Maddy, Maddy brought it back when he got
on the end of the dyson and started beck and cleaning.
You know that that was that's in touch.

Speaker 14 (16:51):
That was gold. That was absolute gold.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Anyway, if what's.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
More in touch in spilling months and months and cheese
pile a studio, what's more.

Speaker 14 (17:03):
But sticking of luxon? He hasn't been in touch? I mean, like, yeah,
he's like, look at where he's come from. He's like
in New Zealand, he's been in the States. Has he
been in touch when he's been there? Like he's he
lives in a different bubble. I think he's you know,
and look at any politician, like look at you know
the American politicians. Are they in touch? No? You know

(17:25):
Paris and Trump? I mean, are they in touch?

Speaker 10 (17:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well it's interesting one if you bring up Trump, he's
that the working class think he's more in touch than Karmela.
And he's a billionaire and it was born into wealth,
so you know it can be more. How you interact
with people. Can you be wealthy and lived a different
life and be because there's different ways to look about

(17:50):
talk about in touch? Is in touch just the way
you live your life or the empathy you can feel
for other people. Matthew, I think no.

Speaker 14 (17:57):
I think I think Luson does have empathy for and
like he's trying to turn things around. But look, he's not.
He's not at the ground, he's not at the at
the cole face. Is he really? He hasn't been for years,
And but I think he empathizes with the current plight
and he's trying to do his best.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, because what's the end game on this? If someone
to be in touch, someone has to be experiencing what
everyone's going through, then then that's not a case like
for example, I mean, I wasn't in christ Church in
two thousand and eleven for the earthquakes, but I could
certainly and so had an experience and that it was
going on. But I was extremely empathetic for the situation.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
You can empathize with those situations, and I.

Speaker 14 (18:36):
Think I think he does. I think he does. I
think he understands that you know, the average Joe Blow
is doing it tough even with the interest rates and stuff.
But you know, but you never see a politician that's
just come up from very few like you've said, Tyler.
They've all come from you know, from somewhere and gone
into politics. But they don't get into politics for the

(18:57):
money either.

Speaker 12 (18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Theah, well, well, I mean there's no doubt that Christoph
Luxen could make a lot more money if he continued
on his career path that he was them going into
into politics.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, and what was it? Was it meyor Wayne Brown
might have said that he doesn't want any counselors there
that are just there for the money. You kind of
want people there that genuinely want to make a difference
enough they're just there to take a paycheck as a politician,
then that kind of takes away from from why they
should be there.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
And the old days, they definitely used to think that,
and politicians used to be a lot older because the
idea was that you do something and then you'd go
into politics because you've learned something. And nowadays politicians are
tend to be younger. And I mean there's two sides
of that, because you don't just want wealthy people in politics,
and you just don't want people of said an agent
in politics, do you but just be odd to say

(19:55):
that you didn't want successful people to be running?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
He carefully want successful people and there, John, what do
you reckon?

Speaker 15 (20:03):
Look?

Speaker 9 (20:04):
I think this is just a total beat up by
one News. They love posting the borax at Luxeon and
particularly their political journalists. And I think the who are
out of touch with people is in fact TV one

(20:26):
and they would likely go the same way as TV
three if they don't make changes. If you look at Desinda,
if we're talking about wealth, so there's a real double
standard there because she also sold her house after two
years for a very nice capital gain. I think it

(20:46):
was three hundred thousand dollars and that really doesn't get
much of a mention. And also I think, you know,
for the labor in Greens to comment about people being
out of touch, well sad to say they were totally
out of touch by the time of the last election
and that's the result they got. You know, the things

(21:11):
they did in the lead up to the election, and
you remember ut Texas and you know, all these sort
of things which actually impacted comin folk were disastrous. So
you know, lux and for me, I'm sure he doesn't
get everything right. But I just love his energy and enthusiasm.

(21:32):
My god, I get tired just looking at his travel program,
you know, and that's what we need. And you know,
they are focusing on what people think is important, so economy, crime, health,
that sort of thing, the other stuff. And I noticed
in a recent sort of hole that things like climate

(21:56):
and climate change were way down the list. So they're
focusing on things that are important to people. So yeah,
my view is that it's just a total beat up,
you know, clip of TV trying to make themselves relevant.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, there's no doubt about that that the Pole is
not done for the good of the nation. That the
Pole has done. The one news variant Pole is done
to have headlines and have content and obviously lead to
lead to ratings. So you don't ask the question, you know,
is Christopher Luxe and touch you know, just just because

(22:32):
just out of the goodness of your heart, because you
think it's something that the nation needs to needs to
needs to know. But also it is I mean, in politics,
it's not just about what's true and what's fair. It's
about Unfortunately, it'd be good if it was just straight
down the line facts and people made decisions on what
was true and what wasn't. But it comes down to

(22:53):
this horrible word that really weird optics. Yeah, I hate
when people say the optics are bad. Let's not talk
about the optics. Let's talk about the actual reality of
the situation. But that's not the way politics work. People
are busy, they're they're they're they're struggling in their life,
So the optics of a politician is so important.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
And that's not the way humans work. We all make
judgments about people, whether we we think we do or not.
You know, that's the whole thing. First impressions count, They
absolutely do. It's just human nature. Unfortunate thing for politicians
and people like Christopher Luxen is when you've got a
six second sound bite to try and present your arguments,
you're not going to get a fair run. And I
don't think he has had a fair run. I don't

(23:30):
think a lot of politicians get a fair run. But
that's what we say. What do you say, Oh, e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?
It is half past one.

Speaker 13 (23:41):
Jus talk said.

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Speaker 3 (24:49):
Thank you very much, Raylen. It is twenty six to two.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Welcome to the show term luxen out of touch? Does
it matter?

Speaker 17 (24:57):
Give be an example of a New Zealander who is
so in touch with every New Zealander right down to
the bottom of the fifth that he four foot of
the golden years of the strayer, four million dollars a
year returned to his country to a trainery and solely
devoted himselves on a fraction of that for every New
Zella's benefit, to turn this absolute pig style and to

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get it up and going from seven percent to two
point two percent inflation.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Where were wrecked.

Speaker 17 (25:26):
He could have lived the life of absolute riley from
afar and four million dollars for good he ever came
from here, he chose to return home and grind out.
And one of the most unfaithful clasks to ever have
to have critical little rats like Bikey seven seaming the floor.

Speaker 9 (25:42):
Up bitching about him.

Speaker 17 (25:44):
When you've got a bunch of socially funded bloody losers
running around shoplifting, drinking boost spinning out the vehicles and
all on the state and making a fortune on the
run the country into the ground of over spending. And
they grew us by sixteen billion dollars of public spending

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for nothing and ruined the place.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
That's interesting because because tell us what you really think
to him?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
But it was good.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, Well, the thing is like are we talking? That's
why this is such a great question in terms of
conversation that they've thrown out there, and the very reason
why they've asked this question and this very very unpopul
because it's an undefinable thing. And you know when we
say before that Green Party supporters were most likely to
say the Prime Minister had lost touch at eighty eight percent.
That's because it's long critical lines. But if you take

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politics out of the situation, really are we talking about character?
Is that what we're saying, or some people will define
it as you're just rich and so you're not experiencing
what the common man is experiencing. Because if you take
politics out of it completely, and I would say that
the politician that I've met in my life that was

(26:55):
the most in touch and the most soul of the
earth was David Shearer. Yep, he's a fantastic guy, but
he was disliked for other reasons because he was seen
to be politically optically.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Not He wasn't good with the SoundBite either, was he
but there's a fair question, Tim. I mean when you
look at Akay been in touch with the average New Zealander,
what is the average New Zealander these days?

Speaker 7 (27:17):
To you?

Speaker 17 (27:19):
Well, I mean the average is struggling and having a
pretty tough time at it and an economy that was
out of control. And he's have voted his time and
his team saying we are going to be everywhere it
takes to help bring us under control so that quality
of life can return. I don't think you could do
anything more or a better for the economy than what

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he's done is say we're going to try and help
you guys back on a footing so when you go
to work and do your forty hours that you actually
might be able to live a good life.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Thanks so much, Tim, Yeah, I mean you're talking about sacrifice,
So sacrificing potential four million dollars a year jobs to
come and do what he believes is the right thing
to get the country back on track. Maybe you can
be out of touch and do that. Maybe you don't
know everything about every part of someone's life that is struggling,

(28:11):
but you can have empathy from your ivory tower as
you do it.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, But empathy is a big thing. I mean, just
looking at who would be in touch with a common
man in New Zealand, those characters that we think are
quintessential Kiwis.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's such a bizarre question because what does it even mean.
But if you said someone that I think is quintessential
Kiwi that I just immediately pops to in my mind,
which I think is an absolute great New Zealand, I'd
say Dame Lisa Carrington.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh she's great. Everybody loves Lisa and she is just
soult of the earth. She is quintessential Kiwi, batler and achiever.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, but like she's out of touch because she's winning
gold medals, she's off in Tokyo, she's in Paris, she
owns a kayak, she's got her own boat. She's out
of touch.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
We used to have we haven't done it for some time,
but we used to have the most Trusted People in
New Zealand list. From those lists, yeah, yeah, So I
found that the most recent one I could find from
twenty seventeen. I just want to give you a give
you the top five, now, can I have a guess? Yeah?
So number one twenty seventeen, who was the most trusted
person in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'd say Willie Appiada who you're close? He's number two,
number two, right, Can I give you a clue? Yes,
rugby player Oh Richie.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Mccaugh No, Richie's number three.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Karen Reid, great New Zealander, very much in touch. He's
the common man.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I've got to go down the little bit it for
Kier and that's unfair on Kieren. He should number one.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Karen Reid should be number one.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Great captain rugby player who went on to be a
great advocate for men's mental health.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Ah, Sir John Kerwyn.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
There it is twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Well, you know I saw his house when it went
on the market. If we're going to nicol and dine
people on their houses, the beautiful property that he's recently
had on the market.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I bet he does right. It is twenty one to
two oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Call the big stories, the big issues, the big trends
and everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
You for twenty twenty four news talk, sa'd.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Be eighteen to one.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
We're talking about a one news Veriant poll that has
come back with a finding that fifty one percent of
New Zealanders believe that Christopher Luxon is out of touch. Kevin,
what do you think?

Speaker 18 (30:26):
Well, I'm just wondering, is one news in touch themselves?
Are they actually relevant in any way? They're struggling to
be financially viable. Perhaps they should actually model themselves a
little bit on, take a few leaves out of Chris
Luxon's book and actually try and make themselves financially viable.

(30:46):
I mean, the guy's done quite well. He's come from
a working background his parents, and he's done. He actually
paid attention at the school, went through and became a
commercial leader, you know, in various companies and there rose
up to run national companies in this country.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
So would you rather get a guy I've got.

Speaker 18 (31:08):
It's a friend called Alan at the moment, really in
touch with He knows everyone around here. We can get
him to run the place.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
He'd be, he'd know everyone, but.

Speaker 18 (31:18):
I think we'd would probably kick him out in about
three days.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I probably want to make him him on the first day,
but I'll Alan a shot. He can, you know, do
the coffees to start off with and see how he goes.

Speaker 14 (31:28):
Well, we used to.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
We used to.

Speaker 18 (31:28):
I just work for a government organization that used to
have twenty four hours where we would reverse the roles
and the lowest ranked person in the company would actually
end up running the company for a day, just to
appreciate the crap the top of the boss and he
and they were just going, yeah, and new appreciate when
you talk the spokes masters doing yeah, new appreciation. I
didn't realize all the stuff I have to do to

(31:50):
to and you know, he didn't make any decisions, but
he said, right now, you got to kind of look
at this report. And then the guy just went, yeah,
I'll go back to the my my at the cold face.
I'm quite happy building this building, these whatever projects youve
got me building. So it's just, you know, I think
it's I think I seem to think it's it's my
seat is like you're gas lighting him because he's done well.

(32:10):
And I'd rather a guy who's done well to show
me the way that I can do well. I can
or give us something to emulate and go, yeah, actually
he knows how to get things done, and that's leadership
is getting stuff done.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I think people are kind of confusing the idea of
wealth with being out of touch. But you can certainly
be out of touch and have no money at all.
I've got friends that have absolutely no money but are
so entrenched in social media bubbles that they have become
completely out of touch with what most New Zealand does are.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
In their little tribe, and they think that's what most
people think, but the reality is that that's just a
real small proportion of the population.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yes, So if you're you know, your metric for how
in touch someone is how much money they've got, or
how many houses they've recently sold, or the optics of
the situation, the word that I absolutely hate, then you
probably have got a pretty simplistic view of what in
touch and out of touch is.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, I'm always uncomfortable, and Kevin, I'll bring you back
in here. Always uncomfortable. The way that we do tend
to try and bring down politicians. It's determinant on how
you vote when you want to try and tear that
person down. And I love that Theodore Roosevelt quote. I
think it is that the credit belongs to the person
in the arena, and politics is not a job I

(33:29):
would ever want to do. It seems an incredibly hard
job and you get bugger or love for it. People
just love to try and tear you down, and you're
there to try and do the best you can for
this country.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I mean, why would anyone do it? Well, that's a
really good question. So if people that have been successful
know that if you go into politics now then you
are going to be abused for your success, then is
that going to make it even less attractive for really
successful people to jump in and see what they can
do to help their country.

Speaker 18 (33:58):
Kevin, I think you've it, nol On had that there's
some at the moment we don't give enough, We don't
make it a trace of enough to get really good
people in running our councils and running our our and
being in parliament, and you end up with the message

(34:18):
you have and because you're trying then to basically, if
you if you're running a company, you get to decide
how the company runs, you know, so you achieve your
whatever the aims of the company company are. But then
if you go into a council, then you're arguing with
people and it's all getting written up in the in
the press the whole time. Every time you try and
make a decision that someone might not like. And even

(34:40):
though Barma spoke about it when he left, he spoke
about as the president, he only really had two years
before he then had to start working because they voted
against him for in the in the House of Representatives whatever,
and he then said, right now, I have.

Speaker 19 (34:56):
To move these people.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
You have to.

Speaker 18 (34:57):
You're basically horse trading all the time to get anything done.
Even though he's the president for eight years and everyone's
saying that he was a fantastic or some singtle say
it's a fantastic present, he didn't really get much achieved
because he had to keep trying to get one group
and then trying to get another group, and you try
to sitting swords. But the word we seem to be
at least we've got a group of three people who

(35:18):
are moving in the same direction, or a group of
three parties that are moving in the same right direction
or a direction. Some people might not like it because
it's affecting them worse than others. But if you're then
going to tear the guy that or people down in
the leadership positions, you try to come out with the solutions.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean that's a big question. And democracy,
isn't it. How much time do our politicians spend actually
doing what they believe and they've been elected because they
believe that to do the best for the country. And
how much do they do they spend dealing with media
punishers like you and me, Tyler coming up with content
for our broadcasts for our own personal gain to nicol

(35:59):
and Diamond little things that that's arguably meaningless in the
big scheme of things as democracy.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Baby, Julia, what do you think on this one?

Speaker 20 (36:09):
Well, I agree with the well Kiora, now you two
both help. I totally agree with the previous callers that
I've only just come in and I never you know,
call in. It's but this really gets me because what
a stupid question from TV one. I just think they

(36:29):
are woke and out of touch. I totally agree with
the previous to call us.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
What a question.

Speaker 20 (36:35):
I mean, in touch with whom if you're talking about,
in touch with business people and people who want to
move the economy, grow the economy, so we can afford
as a country to help those who are going to
always be you know, there's going to be always people
that are needing help. I totally agree with we need

(36:56):
to have funding for that, but you can't do it
the way the books are at the moment, and with
what we've inherited. It's it's it's drawing on the tall
poppy syndrome society that just want to slash and down
the poor guy. I feel for him. Every media question
that comes at him is just demeaning him. And when

(37:17):
he's out there overseas trying to increase exports, now exports,
that's exactly what we need for growing the economy. If
you want to say, is he in touch with the
common man? And I think that's what TV wan are imply. Well,
I suppose you'd say Jasinda would be more in touch

(37:39):
than Luxeon, but look where she led the economy.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
So what a stupid question?

Speaker 20 (37:44):
Why not say, do you think Christopher Luxeen is growing
the economy, is doing a good job in trying to
grow the economy. I would say absolutely yes.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Nicely said, well, thank you so much, Julia.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Don't often call, but you have, so we appreciate that,
and please call again. So seeing is the simplistic metric
that people seem to be judging this, whether Luxe Ander's
in touch, out of touches property yep. I think he
sold a few properties recently.

Speaker 15 (38:15):
There.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Who doesn't sell a property and make money?

Speaker 7 (38:17):
You know?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
But if that's the simplistic last metric we're looking at,
I've got a question for you. What do you think
is the most expensive residential property in New Zealand? And where?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Good question. I'll give you an answer very shortly.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It is ten to two, matteeth Tyler Adams steaking your
calls on Tyler Adams afternoons news dogs.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
It is eight to two now before the break, you
mentioned where New Zealand's most expensive property.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Is and how much?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Well you think Paratie Drive in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It must be in Auckland, are you idiot? Queenstown, Oh Targo?
How much fourteen hectare estate in Queenstown sold for well
over forty million dollars? That is the most expensive residential
property in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
How many beds do you get for forty miili?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
At least it's confidential, Yes, it's confidential, sixteen forty just
one bathroom though, no, I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
How are you, mate?

Speaker 21 (39:28):
Very well?

Speaker 7 (39:28):
I want to what the race ball will be for
that exactly?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Now?

Speaker 15 (39:33):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Is our prime minister? Is he out of touch?

Speaker 22 (39:38):
He?

Speaker 7 (39:38):
Possibly when he's interviewed. He appears to me to be
sort of always a bit awkward, But as a prime minister,
I don't really think it's a necessary a tribute to heave.
In a lot of ways, he is a good manager
and that's what he's doing. He's managing the country. But
the only thing I would say is, when I see him,

(39:59):
I often feel that he lacks the ability to think quickly,
like making comments about along the lines of it's not
my fault or it's not my I'm not going to
apologize for being rich or wealthy. I can't remember exactly
what he said. Those sort of comments are probably not
that helpful to the average person, and it doesn't particularly

(40:22):
worry me, but some people would think, well, you know, okay,
why would he say something like that when I'm struggling
to pay a mortgage and all that. It's sort of
rub assault into the wound a little bit, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
But I guess I guess what's he supposed to say
under that circumstance, though, I mean, he's just telling the truth.
I mean, sometimes the politicians, if they pretend, if you know,
they roll up the sleeves in the in the you know,
a photo op where they're they're out sharing a sheep
or something. Yeah, it's kind of disingenuous. But if you
are wealthy and successful and you say you're wealthy and

(40:55):
it's successful, then in a way, that's just that's just honesty.
And I can kind of appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's a hard one. I get your points on any
but I do wonder in that circumstance, I'm sure he
said a lot more than what was just quoted there.
I've picked out one part of an answer that probably
had a lot more context in it. And that's the
fair part about it, right, as he might might have
tried to explain a bit more about Yeah, he's done
well in life, but can also understand and empathize that
people who are struggling at the moment need some help

(41:25):
and that's what he's in for well.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
And what I'd say, Tony, is he maybe he comes
across not as well on television as he does in
real life. And he you know, he's going out meeting
people as the Prime Minister should, but as a person
that's spent some time with them, you know, and just
in a broadcasting professional sense, he comes across a lot
better one on one he does, he's got good chat.

(41:49):
He does have good chator. Yeah, knows the sport.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Josh, we got about forty seconds, my friend, what's your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Oh, guys, come make me wait for ten minutes forty seconds.

Speaker 23 (42:01):
Sorry, I got a call.

Speaker 24 (42:03):
To get me.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Tom coy his Facebook rabbit hole us where they go,
man go, I can't do on forty seconds?

Speaker 9 (42:12):
I'm afraid.

Speaker 25 (42:13):
Can I come back?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'm going to I'm I'm going to talk to your
off air and then I'll try to regurgitate what you
tell me. All right, Josh, Josh calls this hour. Yeah,
thank you very much of us. That was a good discussion. Right.
Coming up very shortly, we're going to be talking about
a new bill that is going through Parliament and the
Philippines they want to introduce what they're calling heartbreak leave.
And you have a bad breakup, you ring the boss

(42:35):
and say I'm hurting. Can I tap into my heartbreak leave?
No problem? Signed off? Where it's coming up very shortly.
Great to have your company, Newsport and Weather on its way.

Speaker 13 (42:59):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four US Talk said be.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
News Talks. He'd be Yes, Matt and Tyler with you
until four pm. Great to have your company has always
hope you're having a fantastic afternoon wherever you're listening in
the country. Good discussion last hour, But we're gonna shift
it up for the next forty five minutes or so.
We want to talk about what's been called heartbreak leave.
So a bill in the Philippines is trying to secure
time off for workers after a breakup, and they think

(43:30):
it may improve productivity.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Surely, if that's happening in the Philippines, then it will
happen here eventually.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
In recognition of the negative emotional baggage they say that
can come after a relationship breakup breakup. Riccardo Deblado great name,
chief executive of the cebu Car Century Plaza Hotel in
the Philippines, last year unveiled an unusual news staff policy
five paid days of heartbreak leave. So the time off,
which can be taken annually, provided the breakup is with

(43:59):
a different person each year, was inspired by Riccardo's own
experience in the Philippines. The idea is catching on a
parliamentary bill in February this year proposed that any worker
going through a romantic breakup should be eligible for up
to three days of unpaid leave, and employers, it appears
across the world have increasingly sought to make concessions for

(44:20):
their workers' personal lives, offering well being days, flexible work
and in some cases counseling services. So in the UK,
employeers including Tesco, the Supermarket Chain and Metro Bank have
targeted break up support to families. Signing up to the
Parents Promise created by Positive Parenting Alliance and Advocacy Group,
employers make commitments to help parents who are separating from

(44:40):
each other, including giving them a chance to work flexibly
and also giving them days off.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, a couple of things on this. I would say
when you're breaking up with someone that it's best to
focus in on the positives of your life. Get into work,
hang out with the people at work, keep the structure
in your life just for you, going taking outside of
the issue of employment and your relationship with your work
and the using of your using of your sick days
for it. I would say, you get the structure in,

(45:11):
get back into work the next day. It's all about
keeping your dignity in the breakup, and it's a great philosophy.
It's all about making keeping the structures going a foundation
for your life going forward. So for you much better
chance of getting that person back if you're seen to
be out there achieving instead of at home sulking.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
You've got to look good, get down to the gym,
just better yourself, better for yourself.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
And no one ever got someone back by by taking
preak leave work.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Would this be a step too far? I mean, you
are an employee, you've got you've run businesses in the past,
and you still run businesses now do you think this
is just too much? Where does the line or where
is the line between what a boss is expected to
do and looking after their employee because effectively bosses are
like counselors.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Now, well, I think people forget that bosses, generally speaking,
really care about the people that they that work for them.
They sort there's sort of this idea out there that
they're just trying to use people as hard as they
can and get everything about them. But most employees spend
a lot of time worrying about keeping their employees employed,
and they worry about their families, and there's hardly any

(46:15):
employees out there that don't spend at least sometime losing sleep,
worrying about the lives of their employees and feeling responsible
for them. So I think from that perspective, and you
know you're not you know, bereavement leave as an example.
People definitely open with bereavement leaves. So I think there
wouldn't be many bosses out there that wouldn't go okay.

(46:36):
And as long as you're not milking it, you know,
like as the Sticks has said, you get one after
a one night stand. If someone rings up and says,
I really like this person but that don't seem to
like me, I need to take a day off to
deal with it, then they're no. But I just think
I just put it back on you, and it's you
as a person. What's best for you, and what's best

(46:58):
for you is getting on with your life and not
changing anything and focusing on the good things as I
said before, which is your job and your friends and
the structures in your life.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Would you prefer an employee to be upfront about it
that the hey, boss, I've had a break up with
my long term partner or wife or husband. I'm going
through a mirror of a time my life and pieces
at the moment, I need a couple of days off.
Can I use my heartbreak.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Leave rather than pretending to be sick?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Yeah, because that's what most key wes will do it
at the moment. If they having a bad day for
whatever reason, call it a mental health day, because that's
effectively what it is. Right, you're going through some mental
health issue issues after a breakup that you just say
I'm feeling a bit sick, I'm not going to come
in today, and that becomes sick leave. I actually think
it's better to be more upfront with your employeer and
say I'm going through some things mentally because of this breakup.
I need some time so that you can get the

(47:46):
best out of me when I return.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I mean there's another side to that as well, as
do you want your employee to think that you're mentally
strong and you know, and the right person for higher honors.
That's another way to look at it. Yeah, if you're
keeping reaching out and saying that you needed some time
off because of heartbreak, you need a time off for
this and that, then they go, well, as this person

(48:08):
dependable and they'll probably be empathetic empathetic to you and
they'll probably give it to you, but in the back
of their mind they're going to go emotionally week.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. This is going to
be a good discussion. Have the Philippines lost the plot
with heartbreak leave or is there some merit in the idea?
Here in New Zealand. Nine two ninety two is the
text number. It's twelve past two.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Your new home of afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoon call.

Speaker 13 (48:35):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Good afternoon, it is fourteen past two. Michael, you think
this is a bit of a step too far.

Speaker 8 (48:46):
Oh, surely it's a joke.

Speaker 24 (48:48):
I mean what man worthy sot would ring in Telly's
boss he was heartbroken, was having three.

Speaker 26 (48:52):
Days off work?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, I mean, look, it is actually going through Parliament
and the Philippines at the moment on the back of
this boss of a big hotel chain. He went through
a bad breakup, so he thinks his employees need five
days to get over it. But a lot of people
would agree with you that. I take it you'd be
in the same philosophy as Matt that when you go
through that sort of stuff. It's it's about the character

(49:15):
of who you are to push through and do the
best you can and keep going to work and get
out of that funk. That's the way through it. Rather
than bring up your boss and say I had a
bad breakup. I need a day off.

Speaker 24 (49:26):
Oh exactly, Well, most men deal with breakups are completely
different way. They go out, have plenty of bears, and
wake up next to someone else the next morning. So
I don't think I'm staying home crying about it. It's going
to help.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
So it'd be better to say to your boss, Hey,
I'm hungover today because I have had a horrible breakup.
I've gone out and I've woken up with someone else,
and that's causing working.

Speaker 24 (49:47):
Up in working up in some random house somewhere else, just.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Making my car keys and my wallet. I don't know
where I am. I may be late.

Speaker 24 (49:55):
Yeah, I'm at home crying, watching the notebook with a
cover of ice cream.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Well, I think there is a point in that as
well as what you want to portray to your employer
as well. You might have a really empathetic employer that goes, yeah, yeah,
you have you have two weeks off, mate, you have
two weeks off for your for your heartbreak. But as
I said before, they're then going well. Is this person

(50:23):
the iron clad, strong minded person that I want to
move up the ranks? And so for yourself personally, as
I said before, moving through moving through your life. The
structure of work is very important and also part of
work is trying to move up through your work. So
what you portray to your boss may be different from

(50:45):
what you portray to your best mates. You have a
cry on the shoulder of your best mate and have
a beer, tell your boss that I'm sweet as I
am strong as an ox, and he goes well, he
just went up for a terrible, terrible breakup and his
numbers have never been better.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Is that a good thing? I mean, I hear what
you're saying, and I can understand. You know you're you're
a great character and a great philosophy that when something's
going wrong, you're going to pull yourself out of that and.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Lean on what you've got. You know, in your job,
if you're lucky enough to have a job, that is
one of the things that you can you can excel
at and hang your hat on and something that you're
doing well. But when other things are falling to pieces.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
But Michael, do we not want to be I'll bring
you back in here. Do we not want to be
honest with our bosses when we're having a bit of
a crappy day or we're just not feeling mentally al
right for whatever reason, that we can be upfront and say, hey,
I'm just feeling a bit off today. I just want
to let you know that.

Speaker 24 (51:35):
I think honestly is the best policy. But if I
was the employer and someone rang up to say I've
broken up with my partner, wife whatever, and I want
to have a day off, I'd be like, well, that's fantastic.
You're gonna have a permanent holiday, take up your desk
and don't come back.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Very good, Michael, thank you very much for kicking us off.
Huh quick text, and then we have got to get
to some messages. Guys. There are too many soft people
around these days with no resilience. Instead, let's get in
touch with our emotions and well there, I'm sensitive. I
heard easily, and my heart has been broken. But that
is life. Get up, show up, get on with it.

(52:11):
That is the best medicine in my opinion. Did you
write that text?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
No, I'm not saying. I'm saying talk to your friends,
reach out to people, talk to your mum, talk to
your dad, talk to your sisters, talk talk to your buddies,
and be vulnerable with them. But to say to your
boss that I'm heartbreak and I can't come in, I
think that's a risky I think that's a risky, risky,
risky approach to take into work. And I think it's

(52:35):
also a risky approach to you because because, as I said,
keep saying over him again, those structures are so important
and keeping your dignity, keeping your dignity is the most
important thing you can do in a breakup.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I agree with you there, one hundred.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Don't take the day off so you can stand out
in front of your work crying.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Definitely don't do that. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call a nine two ninety
two heartbreak leave. They're doing it in the Philippines and
elsewhere around the world. Is it a silly idea? Is
it too much for you as an employer? How would
you feel about that? Get on the phones, give us
a buzz. It is nineteen past two.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
News Talks, EDB. We're talking about this idea of heartbreak leave.
They are looking to introduce it in the Philippines. Are
five days off per year if you have a bad breakup?
How would that go?

Speaker 14 (53:28):
On?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
New Zealand, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call, VICKI, how.

Speaker 21 (53:31):
Are you HIGs for you?

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah? Good? Great to chat you reckon? This is a
bit too far old heartbreak leave.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Look, in circumstances where there is marrow finances all that
sort of thing. I appreciated the gentlemen who rung befoce
point of view. But you know, in circumstances like that,
when it's years and years of commitment or not even years,

(54:01):
you don't have years and years of commitment to have
that bond, you know. But in circumstances like that, dignity
doesn't come into it. You know, Jesus, if we're that proud,
O meant your health is never going to be good.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, but I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that. I
think you misunderstanding a little bit. They're Vicky, what I
mean by dignity, I think dignity for yourself so that
you can be proud of the way that you faced it.
Because if you lose the person that you love for
whatever reason, and you also lose your self respect at
the same time, then you've lost two things. But as
time goes on and you go through a breakup, and

(54:38):
you can look back and say, I stood up and
I did the right thing for me, and that was
I went into work and maybe I said, look, i'm
having a bit of a rough time here to people,
but I held on to what I think is important
for me and the principles of what I am. Then

(54:58):
you can look back a year later and you can go, well,
that was great, and you can feel you can feel pride,
and also the person will probably come back because I'll
be like, oh, this guy's.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
And that's a good trait. But VICKI go on you
calling up because I feel Matt's viewpoint, and that's a
great trait that Matt has. But I think that's a
real male viewpoint is get back on the horse, get
down to the gym, better yourself as a person, and
you'll be all the better for it. But I think
there's a bit more.

Speaker 21 (55:24):
That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Yeah, but it's amazing how many men who think that
they can do that and at Marcho enough and strong
enough and brave enough to do it, can't do it
or need to help and just by saying, hey, you know, yeah,
totally ridiculous you go out for one night standing at
and say, my one night stand hasn't had work, but

(55:47):
hey I've had a good time. I'll squear you know, totally.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
No, but I would I would say slightly different. My
point of view isn't that it's being Marcho and it's
manning up. I'm saying it's you reach out to the
rails you have in your life to hold on to,
and one of those things is your employment. And you know,
work isn't just the way you make money. Those are
the people that you spend a lot of time with
and being around them, and being around other people is

(56:12):
really really important. When you go through.

Speaker 21 (56:16):
Family, yeah, well you know, absolutely we forget about that.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Get care for you like your family.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
So if you can go around and be with people, yeah,
so much, Vicky. But yeah, if you, if if you also,
if you, I'm not saying don't reach out and don't
be vulnerable to your family and friends. Absolutely, But I
just I think keep your dignity and look for the
rails in your life, the things that you can hold
on to, the things that you can be proud of
and move forward with.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Well.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
The other question is is it your employer's issue? For
lack of a better word that how much does your
employer come into the issues that you're having in your
personal life? Because that's what it comes down to. A
lot now that as an employer they now have to
consider the mental health and I think that's a good thing.
Or a manager they now have to consider what's going

(57:02):
on outside of the office for that and they nearly
all do.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
They nearly all do.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah, But how much responsibility does the employer have to
their their employees home life?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, and in small companies definitely. If you're going to
site and you're getting picked up by your boss in
the van and you go to him, look, I'm going
through a bit of a tough time and the drive
to work. In those situations, I guarantee that that most
bosses in New Zealand would would be sympathetic to it,
but also go good on your mate. You turned up
to work and then then they'd really really appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Cameron, what's your take on it.

Speaker 19 (57:39):
Well, I've been self employed for fifty years, and my
take on it is that okay stuff even five days
off for a bit of a marriage best breakup, and
I would say, I'm flipping the coin and oh, hey, guys,
I've had a bit of a merriage breakup and my
wife's taking half the business. So I was just wondering

(58:00):
if you guys would like to support me by working
five days for nothing.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Mm hmm, yep.

Speaker 19 (58:08):
It isn't that the same call in re Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I suppose it is. Yeah, So for you, it's a
step too far. I mean, all these these new days
that are being offered to employees around the world, it's
just it's too much that people need to take some
self responsibility of things that are going on in their
life and deal with it as best they can. But
that can be sickly.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
For example, yeah, you will, you know, I mean in
my day, I mean when I was when I was
employing it.

Speaker 19 (58:38):
I mean, if I had something wrong, that was my time,
private life. That was for me to fact, it wasn't
my boss's responsibility to sort of you know, it could
be a cuddle and a warm handshaken, you know, standard.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
And it's an interesting thing though, because we wouldn't we
wouldn't think about that in terms of bereavementally though, would we.
We'd go if if you've lost not no, no breving.
So we do. We do believe that people can take
time for emotional situations. I mean, bereavement leave does involve,
you know, organizing the funeral and the you know, all

(59:16):
the stuff that goes around someone passing. But you could say, well,
I've got to you know, I've got to sort out
some things around the house. I've got to I've got
to get my stuff out of this house as soon
as I can. I've come home, I found it with
someone else. I've got to get all my stuff out
of the house. I've got to go and speak to
a lawyer. I need. I need three days for the admin.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
I'd say, so, you tell me, would he come to
work on a Monday and say that so he wants
the next three days off? Or would he say it
on Friday morning? Look like I just have Friday off
because I need three days, and I'll do it on
the weekend as well.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Yeah, you sound like a good employer. I mean, if
they came to and said it, well, I've gone through
a mirror of a divorce and it's getting messy, and
I've got a lot of things to sort out a house.
It's going to get messy. What would you say as
a boss, so I can give you one day and
then maybe take a couple of days and you'll leave.

Speaker 19 (01:00:04):
Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
It's an interesting thing for a self employed person because
so you're going through a breakup and you've got to
deal with other people. You know, you've got to deal
with you know, your clients, you've got to deal with
your accounts, and you've got to deal with being just
at the call face making the money to pay the mortgage.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You don't have a choice, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
You can't wring yourself up and say I'm going to
take two weeks off heartbreak.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Leave, Thank you very much, Cameron. Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call keen on
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Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. Twenty eight minutes to two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, we're talking about heartbreak leave, which is being introduced
in the Philippines where you can ring up your boss
and say I've gone through a breakup, I want some
time off YEAP, similar to Mental Health League. But in
people are saying I'm being really much so with whether
I'm saying here that I think that you should go
to work if you've been through a heartbreak and bearing
in mind whatever complicated complications around that. But that's not

(01:02:13):
about being much so, I'm not saying that, and there's
nothing wrong with being incredibly heartbroken, and that doesn't make
you less of a man if you're incredibly heart broken,
I'm just saying for your own personal good and your
hopes of feeling better and dealing with your life and
it not becoming a complete catastrophe, I'm saying, going to
work and keeping the structures going in your life is

(01:02:35):
the best possible thing you can do, and just keeping
keeping in mind my dignity, keep being proud of doing
things that make you proud of yourself, because if you've
already lost someone and you're already heartbreaking and heartbroken, and
you start doing things that make you not proud of yourself,
then that makes it worse. And I think if you
lean into work and you start achieving there or you

(01:02:56):
go along. Not only do you have the structures of
work and feel like that you're doing something for yourself,
but also you're around people, and so I say, absolutely,
rich out to your friends, Absolutely talk about it, but
keep your dignity and hold onto those rails in life,
things like your job. If you're lucky enough to have one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Good clarification, Julie, how are you this afternoon, I'm well.

Speaker 27 (01:03:17):
Thank you. I'd just like to say that this is
a very bloke oriented angle. Yeah, and I don't think
there's anything wrong with having a few days off. Yes,
you might be heartbroken, but who else in the family

(01:03:38):
need support? You may have children. You're not just going
to break up and go back to work, because what
are you offering to work if you're broken and you
haven't sorted this out, and then you might have to
move out. But the children come first, yea, and their
sanity and their safety. So if you have a few

(01:04:00):
days off to sort this out, get your head back together,
then you go back to work. I'm sure you would
be a better person to offer to your boss and
not have the daily stuff of coming home that kids
are upset, your wife's angry and I think this is
a pretty blokey conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Well, it certainly is. I mean, we're both blokes, so
thank you so much for coming in and giving us
the female perspective on it. But I would say, in
terms of things you can be proud of and dignity
and a breakup, the way you look after your children
is something that you could hang your hat on. And
if you if you make the assessment that what you
can do best in life is for your children and

(01:04:42):
be there for them in the breakup and do what's
right for them, I would say that that was something
that you could feel proud of and as I say,
hang your hat on. In terms of dealing with the breakup.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, I agree, no, but I hear what you're saying, Julia.
I mean, you know, thank you very much. But when
it comes to divorce and these children involved, and you know,
they are incredibly devastating things for a lot of people
to go through, not even'body, but a lot of people.
And you know, my own parents divorced when I was eleven,
and that was an incredibly tough time for both of them.

(01:05:15):
They tried to shield us kids as much as they
could and they did a pretty good job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
How was it for you, Tyler, if you don't mind
me asking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Devastating, evastating for the family. Yeah, and it was a
little bit missy, and that was nobody's fault. And it
wasn't anybody's fault that the parents decided to split up.
And they get on well now they get on okay,
But it was it was tough years and I think
Dady was running his own sparky firm electrician firm at
the time. He tried to push through ended up having

(01:05:41):
to take a few days off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Kewy Fruit involved as well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yeah, there was yep, we had a Kiwi fruit orchard
and that needed to be sold, so that was stressful.
They were well, they had plans to turn it into
an olive orchard and never quite got to that point,
so they made a big loss on that orchard. It
was thirteen acres, so that was losing a lot of money.
Dadd had to keep running his business. Mum was self
employed as well as a contractor. So it was incredibly

(01:06:06):
tough and love.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
It and as a parent going through a breakup, if
you could look back and go, I did right by
my kids, then that's something you can feel very proud
of and obviously that is the most important thing. Yeah,
so then that is part of as I said, that's
part of the dignity thing, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Yeah, very good call eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It is twenty three to three.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
I've got a question for you nine two nine two.
What do you think who is more likely to instigate
a divorce? Males or females?

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
We'll get the answer very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Matteeth, Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred
and eighty eight Matteth and Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
That'd be very good afternoon to you. It is twenty
to three. And before the brain Keith, you had a
wee bit of a tease for the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah, who is more likely to instigate a divorce? Males
or females? I don't have the New Zealand figures, but
I've got two other similar countries. In the US females
instigate divorce right in the UK sixty two percent females.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
And what was the key reason did they say that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Well, there's a number of reasons. Obviously there's some real
dickheads that people need to get away.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
From the they can.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
That's a big part of it. Interestingly, in the States,
the woman becoming more wealthy than the man, or more
successful in business, it will often lead I'm not sure why,
but it will lead to the female going now not
into you anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
And tristing George, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 26 (01:07:39):
Oh, I'm very good. I'm sitting on my dig I've
got bushfall around me. Whose sky I'm watching about four
two yes lining up to drink off a toy feeder.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
You're a good man, beautiful.

Speaker 26 (01:07:50):
So that's what I'm getting at is that's some mental
just serenity, peacefulness. The window is gently blowing and you're
discussing the issue. Is that are mental stress? And I
think this is really interesting. Now I've got two points.

Speaker 6 (01:08:07):
One.

Speaker 26 (01:08:07):
When I was eighteen, I had a very lovely girlfriend
who decided to give me back my friendship friendship ring
i'd given a gold ring I decided to like many more.
Now that goes down the same path as when I
was married many many years later, and it will split
up d you to just circumstances. Both were disasters, but

(01:08:28):
the first one really set my mindset about handling an
issue of personal stress. Now, does this mean that schools
are also going to allow time off for kids who
break up with their girlfriends or boyfriends on Facebook? You
know this is a mental stress issue that you're talking about,

(01:08:50):
and when it comes to families. Yes, there's a whole
range of circumstances for people. I had to I was
self employed. I was running my own business. I couldn't
take time off because I had to attend to my
customer's needs. They weren't going to say, oh, no, you
don't need to come when my computer'sn't working anymore because
you have you split up. I went to Social Welfare.

(01:09:10):
I sat down with them. I said, what can you
do because I now kicked out the house, And they said,
I want you to keep working. I want you to
focus on your work. I want you to focus on
normal life. I want you to have your head in
a normal space while you handle this. So I'm going
with Matt on this. He is actually saying the right things.

(01:09:33):
You can't just sit home and mope because you'll just
go down the rabbit hole. And when you split up
with someone, there's a rabbit hole and it gets very
dark for a while. And you hope you get out
the other end of the tunnel and you start to
see normal daylight again. So there's a whole lot of issues.
But do we add this day that you are now promoting,

(01:09:54):
because that's what you're doing to the pet bereavement day.
For the way you discussed it on the radio a
few weeks back. I'm told you to God to do
matter IQI now divorce day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I'm telling you right now, Tyler and George, when my
dog Colin passes, I won't be here. Genuinely though, I
worry every day every day I see Colin.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
He's getting older every day.

Speaker 26 (01:10:22):
Are we going to also have the America's Cup Lost Day?

Speaker 28 (01:10:27):
The Cup day we go?

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
But genuinely, Georgie looked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I probably needed a day off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
That absolutely, But George, you know we used to. We
had our first rescue, Cecy, and we only had her
a couple of years. She was an old dog when
we got her. I think you know that. And when
set and passed, that was genuinely a devastating day from me.
Even talking about it now makes me tear up a
little bit because she was the goodest of good dogs.
Want that and but I got water in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
They're good on you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
I did show you, guys.

Speaker 26 (01:10:59):
We had this beautiful bishon frees Aussie Terrier cross, most
amazing dog that I bought that would run longer than
what the kids could in the day, and it would
still be going, come on, guys, your stuff, But I'm not.
It got old enough that we had to put it down.
So I went to the vet with the dog and

(01:11:19):
the kids, and I took the afternoon off to go
and put the dog down with the kids, and everybody
said goodbye to the dog at the same time while
they injected it, and then we brought the body home. Now,
that is a devastating time to Yes, there is acknowledgement
for all this, but you do have annual leave, you
do have sick leave which you can take for these issues.

(01:11:43):
Why do an employer now expect to carry the additional
expense even if you're not paying for them. You've lost
that production from the worker for that day or four days,
you know. And we just came going on about productivity
in the country, and we kept giving productivity away. That's
all I'm getting to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Well and interesting for me, and this might be a
bit personal, but when my why not be per snore.
Why wouldn't I be? But when my my lovely mum died,
and you know, she was the most important person in
the world to me. When she died suddenly and she
was at the other end of the country, and my
dad rang up and you know, looking at what flights

(01:12:25):
I could get down, he said, go to work and
then come in and then get their first flight down.
You can after that. And he didn't mean that in
terms of you know, hard and up or anything that
he thought that me going into work would be instead
of sitting at home, I'd go to work and then
I could I'd fly down. So I was with people,
And that's really what I'm saying. I'm saying it was

(01:12:46):
hard to do, and I blubbed on here, but it
was It wasn't about being being hard. It was about
being around people and doing something and keeping those structures in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
My life as a support structures as a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Way to get through to the you know, the flight
down and moving into the funeral stage of things. So
so that you know, and I'm so glad I did
go work this morning that morning, because you know, people
you're often if you're lucky enough, then your work can
also be a sort of an extension of your.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Family, nicely said Carrie, how are you, Tyle?

Speaker 26 (01:13:23):
What Taylor should?

Speaker 29 (01:13:24):
I says? I think we're going off topic a little
bit today. You know. It's there's so much lead at
the moment. But we do have ten days mental stress days,
and surely that would come under that kind of a thing.
But but if you were going to do it, you
want to do it on like a Wednesday or a Monday,

(01:13:45):
wouldn't you, So you could have a really long, bloody weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Do it like the teacher the other teachers down Friday.

Speaker 29 (01:13:53):
The other thing is that the end of the day,
things happened for a reason. Like I've had a lot
of partners and thought I was and loved, but I
obviously wasn't. And I'm a real big believer in things
happening for a reason. And I've been with my partner
for twenty five years and I had to kiss a

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lot of frogs to find my princess.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeap.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Very good. Well, Well that's I mean, it's not helpful
when you break up for someone to say, wow, there's
plenty of other fish in the sea, because it doesn't
seem like there is. Yeah, but arguably it's true. Yeah,
and things you may look back and go, well, that
was a good thing.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Good call Kerry, nice to check mate. We've got to
take a break. It is thirteen minutes to three.

Speaker 13 (01:14:40):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 13 (01:14:47):
You talk said be News Talks B.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
We're talking about the idea of heartbreak leave. It's going
through parliament in the Philippines. Five days off per year.
If you have a bad breakup, good idea or bad idea? Glenn,
what do you reckon?

Speaker 30 (01:15:01):
I'm probably in the same campers as matte another and
as much as I think you should keep your routines
going rather than mope, although I had understand that brackets
can get messy. A situation where I worked with the
bloke some years ago and his relationship relationship had fallen apart,

(01:15:22):
and he was married, well married with kids, and she
decided to move back to Waddington, and so I'd been
pre arranged that one month's time at work she would
come in with the kids so he could say his goodbyes.
And you know that poor guy. He walked back into
work so forlorn. He was sort of holding back tears.
You know, he was trying to at the same time

(01:15:42):
he was stoic and blokey. So you know, I would
have thought of that situation, he could have spent time
with the kids or you know, yeah, because his focus
would have been totally elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Did you how did you deal with that? Glean? Did
you did you go past shoulder or anything.

Speaker 30 (01:16:02):
I felt like I felt like crying for the black
of town, like he was crying on the inside. Did
He was all stoic bloke having a little bit of
a laugh.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
You know.

Speaker 30 (01:16:13):
I think we encouraged that we have you needed anything,
call of us. We were available. You know, it'd since
we've done and gotten to another relationship as lot of
guys do. But that particular time he could you know,
his focus was totally elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Yeah, but as good he had you there, Glenn. You
know that you were an important support structure as life.

Speaker 30 (01:16:38):
I mean, we're young blokes ourselves, and we're all about
sort of chasing women. And this is going back about
thirty years ago, back in the nineties, so you know
the news is I really felt for the guard and
I told one of our I think one of my
female supervisors, and she, yeah, she was quite a ghast
of what had happened.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Yeah, so rough when kids are involved, and if kids
got taken away from you as well as the breakup,
that that's pretty rough. Here, care that is pretty rough
when they go through a breakup and then the kids
get moved to another another city.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
You're starting to change your mind on this heartbreak leave
while that's slightly different, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
No, I mean because I'm not talking about it from
anyone's point of view except for your own, and their
routine is helpful. Sometimes you need other things to be doing,
and that doesn't mean you're not facing it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
But I'm not about taking a concrete It's it's about
leaning into those support structures in your life. And for you,
you've been very lucky that those support structures have existed
in your workplace.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah. But the other thing I would say is that
everyone thinks the best idea, and a few people suggest
it is that you get some beers with your mates
and go out and hopefully meet someone else. If you
could possibly not do that drinking side of it, because
there's one thing going for a breakup, then not going
to work because you're having a heartbreak day that they've
reached out to it to your boss and got and
then you've got a raging hangover full of the anxiety,

(01:18:00):
anxiety and anxiety that you get from a hangover. I mean,
in the perfect world, you'd go, Okay, I'm just going
to lean into my work, get through this and and
not get absolutely steamed to deal with because they're hiding
from it. But yeah, in the past, I've sodenly leant
into the the having a few beers option to deal
with things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
As you do, les, how are you?

Speaker 22 (01:18:22):
I just thought I had to light and relief up
because I lost my husband not terribly long ago, and
I actually teach our music by bad so I had
to go to teach my normal class at school and
I got these lots of little boys came in and
they said to me, oh, Ruthie, it's so sad we're here.

(01:18:46):
Your father died and I said that was the word
it was my husband. I said, do you so now,
And I said, well, we don't we understand, Ruthie because
he was in the ground. Because my goldfirst died and
I had to think of their hold and put them in.
I never forgotten about. I've never forgotten because it was

(01:19:07):
such light relief. With that, I realized that you just
still have to get on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yeah, And I imagine you'd have struggled not to shed
a few tears with that beautiful moment.

Speaker 22 (01:19:20):
I just couldn't get over it that I realized that,
you know, for me, it was the way it was,
and these little ones are understanding, and I just taught
them and thought, oh, how beautiful. It's really in a
way that we do have to hold a certain amount
to us, because as we get older, we come to many, many, many,

(01:19:44):
many things, and we can't go out and make the
whole world suffer, especially if you're in employment. Because I'm
older now and I've been through some horrendous areas and
I've stuck my hat on my head for teaching hat,
and I put it out the way because if no
one else is a shoot of my own, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
A beautiful person.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Lis thanks so much for sharing that with us.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I think that's a nice place to end a couple
of texts. Then we've got a new topic on the way.
Ghetto lads, what is next for businesses? Extra week holiday pay,
extra week sick pay now treated like holidays with latest
generations extra public holiday. Over the last six years, business
has had this taken off their bottom line of business
with fifty people have to fund two hundred weeks more

(01:20:30):
to pay and replace those weeks. Gets a bit much
for employers to have to look after every aspect of
an employee's personal life. But any good boss should know
their employee well enough to be able to look after
them as best they can.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Yeah, okay, up next, we're going to change tax completely
and lean into gym etiquette.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
This is going to be a good one. You've been
recently back at the gym smashing those weights, but you've
noticed some bad behavior and it's time to call it out. Yep, right,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Stick around because we're going to get into jim etiquette
very shortly. It is four minutes to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Three your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's

(01:21:40):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Said welcome back into the show. Met and Tyler with
you until four pm. So a doozy of a topic.
Now it's something personal to you Matt, I think you've
been experiencing recently bad behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Yeah, well, lucky enough that I've been moved to the
afternoons here on the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon
since the b where I get to go to the
gym in the morning because we're not un till twelve
after eleven year on breakfast radio. And what a treated
as in the morning to see one bright eyed and
bushy tailed going about their lives. And I love seeing

(01:22:19):
people going to the gym. It seems like a positive
thing to do. But when I get there, there are
some horrific breaches of Jim etiquette that I see.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Jim crimes, Gim crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
I'd call them, and I'd love to talk to you
about them. Maybe I'm getting them wrong, maybe I'm getting
them right because I haven't got a list. I don't know,
I don't know what the rules are. I just go
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
But I just want your your your top one, the
one that gives you the most grief, that really grinds
your gears, Just the first one, because we want to
hear from people on their ones.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
What really winds up people that are on a machine
and they do this their set and then they take
then they jump on their phone, so they're sitting on
the machine and between reps they're doing between sets, they're
doing two three minutes, just sitting on their phone scrolling

(01:23:09):
through busy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Jim, that's a big one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
That is a big one, and I've locked it up
and thirty to sixty seconds is all you need between sets.
It's about getting through. If you want to be on
your phone, go over and stand in the corner on
your phone. But if you want to, but it's not
a seat, it's not a lounge. It's not a chaise
lounge that you're on. You're on a machine and you're
there to work out, and there's people waiting there trying
to get through. So you do your reps. Then you

(01:23:35):
have sixty seconds. I'd even let you ninety seconds if
you're really pushing yourself to another limit. But the other
day I was there and there was a guy that
he was there for I'm going to say, so I
went off and did four different machines before it came back,
and he was still sitting there reax just relaxing. I
know what pathetic weights as well, he was pulling a

(01:23:58):
pathetic amount of weights up and then just relaxing afterwards,
and it's just it's selfish.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
If they didn't pick up their phone in between sets,
you'd be a lot more okay with it. That's what
hurts you, right, is that they then sit down and
they look like they're just having a nice Sunday morning.
Slimp over our Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Slump over, terrible posture, over the phone, doom scrolling. And
this particular person I walked around because they ended up
in a machine that was sort of behind him. Dude
was on Instagram?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Was he taking selfies?

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
He wasn't taking selfies. Let's not get into that. People
that film themselves at the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Have you ever taken a selfie at the gym?

Speaker 19 (01:24:32):
I have?

Speaker 22 (01:24:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Good, good, because I was about to cool you out.
Then you've sent us a selfie of you at the
gym eache.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Yeah. Because we were organizing the photos for this show.
You were looking at and I said, look, can we
do them shirts off? Because I'm at the gym. Yeah,
I'm looking great. Well I'm not. Actually, I'm currently in
a dirty, bulking situation. I've just moved on from that.
They've got that wrong. But we're not going to talk
about that. We're talking about jim etiquette.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Bad behavior. What are the gym crimes that you've seen? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty as the number to
call or ticks nine two nine two. It is ten
past three. What's the worst behavior you've seen at the gym?
Matt Heath has been smashing the gym recently. Seems he's
got his morning's free time and he seeing some incredibly
bad behavior. Taylor, what is it for you?

Speaker 7 (01:25:16):
Yeah, any guys a game very well.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Jim crimes, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:25:21):
Jim crimes.

Speaker 23 (01:25:21):
Like I don't know the rules either, like what Mett
Will's saying. But you know, I have no issue with
busy gyms. But if if people are hanging around a machine,
or you know, if I'm on the machine and I
see people hanging around, I generally offer. I say, like, oh,
do you want to use this machine like liter rotator

(01:25:42):
in between sets? And then usually it just becomes I
find it's a lot quicker for both, and then it
keeps your rest time on us as well. You know,
it's like people aren't resting on their phones because they know, like,
well I offered it to you, and you're sitting down
on now once you're done, if you're set, you get
up and you get off. And then instead of like

(01:26:04):
z gen scrollers, I mean, I can get stuffed, man,
you can.

Speaker 8 (01:26:09):
Get out of here.

Speaker 23 (01:26:11):
I get it, like if you're lifting heavy and you've
got to have longer rest times, but like if you're
taking the person, you've got to like kind of get
out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
But seagulling, you're talking about people that seagull applying some
sort of passive aggressive pressure for you to finish your
You're you're doing everything right, You're going through your sets
with the reasonable rest time, and people are just sniffing
around like a seagull. On some chips you can censor
it from.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
I don't even have to say anything. They just eye
you up and you know that they want the machine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
They'll do a few walk by and look at you.

Speaker 8 (01:26:46):
And then that's when I'll just take the friendly approach
and I'll just say, hey, mate, Keena jumping in between
sets and let's just smash it out.

Speaker 19 (01:26:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
That's a little problem with gems now though, because everyone's
got headphones on. You're trying and talk to someone and
they don't hear you, and and the sort of social
side of the gym. This is a totally different issue.
So I don't want to go off top of that.
But but but it's really hard to even discuss or
talk or or ask someone if they're finished with the
machine because no one can hear you because everyone's got
headphones on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Would you genuinely do that if you're on the treadmill,
law the bike because you were doing the the tech cycles,
wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Would you?

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Generally there's a stranger next to you, you just have
a chat. I beat your day while you're going at it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I might if something came up, maybe maybe a chat
around the you know, around the drinking fountain, or a
chat around seats. Absolutely, but you you everyone's got hit
ear plugs in now, so so they that's not really possible,
is it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
You're a social fellow, Taylor. There's a great one.

Speaker 27 (01:27:43):
Rob.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 28 (01:27:45):
Hey guys, good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:27:49):
So I've been a gym goar for many years, not
as of late because of two words home gym. That's
the best way to cut out all of the thing.

Speaker 19 (01:28:01):
You're pretty.

Speaker 15 (01:28:03):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 28 (01:28:04):
You know, Matt took the words out of my mouth.
So I was going to say the headphone and the
complete disorientation of people in the gym. You can't communicate
with anybody anymore, you know, you're trying to make cons
that you look you look like freak.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
You're jumping up and down, waving your arms.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
What have you got in your home set up? What
do you got going on? Is it just one of
the one machine that does thirty different things or you've
got a good setup.

Speaker 16 (01:28:32):
So so I've got a.

Speaker 28 (01:28:33):
Little little bench press and one of those multi gym things.

Speaker 8 (01:28:38):
So it's the.

Speaker 28 (01:28:39):
Backs and backs and laps and then the chests and
with all the push up stuff. So it doesn't have
to be very complex the old gym home gym set up,
you know. But yeah, that's that's as simple as it
needs to be.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Yeah, and you can you can spend as much you
can spend as much time between sets at home gym,
doom scrolling on your phone if you want to, and
you're not annoying anyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
You don't need to even have to spray down the machine. Rob,
that's a great one, David, what do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:29:09):
Yeah, mine's probably more focused on the changing rooms etiquette
when I get when I get it out of there,
you like to give them by some quick get out quick.
You know, I don't know my contact with people's yeah,
you need to change. But there's sadly there's a generation
coming through a gentlemen that like to stand in front

(01:29:31):
of it is with the glow dryer out load load
drawing their bodies dry. And they're more more specifically the
pubic here. So this has become grea by GM's concerned about.
I don't know whether they're trying to say how or
whether they're just exhibitions, but it's just like right, and

(01:29:52):
then there got another champions there and things are because
it's about six o'clock at night, at waste that everyone
else is getting changed, the glances around sitting there, everything
has passed us out with yeah. And then when I
the last one was in the actual gym itself, I've
got a group of young guys there's probably like to

(01:30:13):
slap each other as hard as they possibly can and
face while the other one is doing the weights machine.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
You're going to, David, it's a very.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
Well steplist, reputable gym that's a nationwide but I can
get Yeah, it's got so many people and that as
you're going to mention that you see all sorts of
all sorts of types of people doing some weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
It's interesting though, because it used to be an old
school thing.

Speaker 14 (01:30:40):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
I thought to just operate completely nude in the men's
changing room just to get out of the shower, walk over,
get your stuff together, have a chat and the nude.
There's to be this that that used to be the thing,
wasn't it. And but you're saying that's continuing on at
your gym.

Speaker 7 (01:30:58):
Well, these guys again, but to failure with the blow drawing,
and you know I didn't grow blow drive.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
I'm with you, David. I mean just you know, like
when you're in the changing room, and I'm sorry to
say it's usually sort of the older fellas, and I
would be considered an older fellow now in the gym
where they get butt naked and then they just hang
around for a chat. So I've got some blooming clothes back.
It's natural, yeah, but you're not. You know, once she
got your gear off and then they hang around for
fifteen minutes, you can't be chatting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
About crooking and rugby with you with your gear off. Look,
I've seen it, and you know there's someone that's going
to the gym on the way to work, and they
may need to hang out and get themselves looking good
for work in the nude. Well they look. I've seen
ironing being done in this. Some gyms have an ironing
board and there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Nothing wrong with the ironing board.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
I love going wrong with a nude man stands the
ironing is closed.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
Do you use a headraw?

Speaker 27 (01:31:49):
Hu?

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Do I use a headra huh? I have been nine
to Yeah. I don't own it, but I've used. I
sometimes used the missus head.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Interesting one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Tell you what.
We've got a gym owner next, so'd be great to
talk to her. It is nineteen minutes past through.

Speaker 13 (01:32:08):
Bad Heathen Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Afternoons call oh eight hund on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Good afternoon, What is the bad behavior you see at
your local gym? Aaron, good afternoon. Hi guys are very good.
You're great to chat to because you are a gym owner.

Speaker 21 (01:32:25):
Yes, I am in a small town in the white gaddow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
And give us trying to give a plug for your gym.

Speaker 21 (01:32:32):
Oh, I don't think any of my listeners would be
listening to news talk.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
It shows my age well, let's let's talk about the
bad behavior first and then you can decide whether you
want to plug your gym.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
We have lots of young listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Era have you got have you got specific rules for
your gym on things that you know your clients cannot do?

Speaker 13 (01:32:50):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:32:51):
And this is my biggest pet peeve. And I actually
don't have anyone that does this at the moment. But
it's letting go of the cables. Oh yeah, I'm okay
with dropping dumb boughs to prevent injury. So dumb boughs
does solid and it's a concord flour, so it's not
going to be too much of an issue. But the
cables just letting go and slaming those Yeah, I will

(01:33:13):
hunt you down.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
And there's no need so.

Speaker 21 (01:33:19):
And it's so expensive for a gym owner because it's
craps the plate that's on the stack, on the weight stack,
and so that's really hard for us to replace. Then
it's replacing the cable with that that will jump off
the pulley if it's been slammed, and then the next
person goes to use it, they horse it because it's
not on the pulley that breaks the cable that is

(01:33:39):
a day job for me, like that will take up
most of my day when I have to replace the cables.
It's also a house and safety issue when I hear
a cable just being let go home. I'm like, I
will let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
So what is it when you when you're dropping the
you know, the free weights, the dumbbells. Because I was
at the gym the other day and the sky was
lifting the doing some liftings is a big failer, and
he was lifting the impressed amount of weights, but he
was dropping them each time, and each time, every single person,
even though everyone's got headphones on, was looking around and
getting a fright every time. So that's okay. You're saying

(01:34:15):
it's okay to drop the dumbbells.

Speaker 21 (01:34:18):
If I had someone that's doing it repeatedly, then I
will go and talk to them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Right, So you're saying that some people are dropping them
by accident. It seemed like this guy was dropping them
as part of his routine.

Speaker 21 (01:34:31):
Just attention seeking. Yeah, and I will go and I'll
give you some attention. And there's a door.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
It's the throwdown, though, isn't it. It's the march show boom.
I take it the area where you've got your weights.
Do you have extra padding there just in case there
is an accidential drop.

Speaker 21 (01:34:46):
Yeah, so we're on a concrete floor, but we do
have our freeweight does have Jim matt the rubber Mattine there.
I do have some very old school elliptic metal dumbbells,
so when they yet dropped there a lot louder. But yeah,
if someone's doing like chest press or chest fly, and
I'll be knowing I've had to let go to prevent injury.

(01:35:08):
But if someone's doing that time and time again, I'm like, mate,
you need to lower your weight.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
As a Jemona, what are your views on people taking
selfies or filming themselves at the gym?

Speaker 27 (01:35:20):
It's so hard.

Speaker 21 (01:35:21):
It's it's so hard because I felt my own workout.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Yep.

Speaker 21 (01:35:30):
But I do it when the gym is quiet, Like
I actually train right at lunchtime because there's no one there,
probably the quietest time in my gym, But as soon
as I have members come in, I start filming. It's
great for social media, but at the same time, there's
a big privacy thing it gets.

Speaker 26 (01:35:49):
It's a real.

Speaker 21 (01:35:50):
Complicated kind of debate really at Jemona, whether it's a
Yale or a ny and I do. I do agree
with Jim Gyms. Perhaps is no more filming, but it's
a very thing hard thing to police, good answer, hard
to police New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
I mean so recently the New Illan Herold did a
story A Day in the Life of of myself, Matt Heath,
and they came in and filmed me in the gym
and as humiliating poor report. It was just the day
of the life, but it was I think it was
one of the most humiliating things I'd ever done, because
I'm not buff and I'm not listening a lot of weights.
And then then there was a there was a camera

(01:36:29):
crew there and other people were trying to work out,
and I think it was you know, if I could
turn back time, I would have said no to that,
particularly posed a little bit of s yeah, especially when
I saw the photographs.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Aaron, You've been great to chat too. Did you want
to mention where your gym is.

Speaker 21 (01:36:42):
It's a little weetown and Trehung and the White Time, okay,
down by Waite Time and the White Day. So tre
Hung a house on fitness and I like to say
that we've been going since nineteen ninety nine. So it's
a good long standing family operated gym.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Yeah, love it, good operation, Thank you very much in
the area.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Hey, okay, so nine two o two, what percentage of
Kiwi's are signed up to gym's? What percentage of New
Zealanders do you think are signed up to gyms? Have
a guest there, tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
You're not going to give multi multi choice. I will
say what percentage of keywis a sign up?

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
I'll give you, I'll give I'll give you. I'll give
you three options. It'll be like the chase. One of
them is ridiculous. Fifty percent, Nah, twenty percent. Mmmm, this
is adults.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Yeah, fifty percent, twenty percent or.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Three percent?

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Oh three percent? Well, you know so that is okay,
it's got to be twenty then got to go in
the middle, go for the nine grand every time on
the chase? All right, all right? Ninety two nine two,
what do you reckon? Headlines are coming up? It's twenty
seven pars three.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
US talk.

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Sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble
with the blue bubble. The local government minister and Wellington's
mayor will be talking after a week of rumblings since
the Council reversed its plan to sell airport shares. It
means that long term plan will need revising to cope
with the change in funds. Inflation may be settling down

(01:38:07):
with the annual rate at two point two percent, but
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insurance have risen more than twelve percent. A military lawyer
says our army could easily find Tom Phillips and his
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(01:38:28):
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be smoothly implemented. The new Power's ban insignia in public
and let officers disperse gatherings. Four Southlanders have been caught
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Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron enter SALDI partnership separate to

(01:38:50):
any potential deal over the next America's Cup. You can
find out more at ens at Herald Premium. Now back
to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Thank you very much. Raylean, So you asked the question
before the headlines, what percentage of New Zealanders are signed
up to a gym. Some good teachs coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Yeah, okay, so the percentage is twelve percent percent of
all people, but that wasn't one of my options. Twenty
percent of adults, twenty percent of kiwis assigned up to gym.
That that doesn't say how many people are actually regularly going.
Because I'm on the wall at my gym is a
gym legend, So I'm actually my name is listed on
the wall as a gym legend.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
It means people that continued paying right through COVID lockdowns.
But that was because I wasn't aware I was still
paying because I'd signed up. You know, you do that
sign up in January because you're going to make your
life better and then you just pay to be there.
But so twenty percent of adults are signed up to
a gym.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
That's in fact. How many gym memberships do you reckon
you've had in your lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
I've had a lot. Yeah, I think I nearly always
have a gym membership, but I go through periods of
going to the gym right now, gym hard.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
I reckon that gym membership percentage would go up at
about January each year. I reckon that would rock it
up to about fifty percent. Drop back off absolutely, well,
you know if you remember to cancel it. Brigid bad
behavior at the gym? What's your watch? Your number one
pet peeve?

Speaker 31 (01:40:10):
Well, back to the gym etiquette. So I used to
go to a gym in Australia and called Fitness First,
which is kind of like there's mills, big gym, and
women would sort of just walk around not dressed normally.

Speaker 26 (01:40:24):
Etiquette.

Speaker 31 (01:40:24):
I would say, as you have your shower, you put
your bottoms on, and I on your clothes, work and stuff.
But people just walk around butt naked. And then one
day I went into the gym and this woman was
there and she was drying her hair, drying her hair,
and then she gave it a blast in the front
and toot in the back, and I thought, oh, it's horrible.
I don't want to use the hair dryer as if
you've been using it for that as well in front

(01:40:49):
of everybody. It's a really big there's a whole big
sort of U shaped area with hair dryers. So I thought, okay,
So when he got the Fitness First logo and did
a made up a little sticker and it had a
sort of silhouette of a human. It had the logo
and it had a hair dry pointing down there with
a cross.

Speaker 7 (01:41:06):
So it was an international sticker.

Speaker 31 (01:41:08):
You know, you didn't need to speak English to understand.
And then I went around the gym when there were
many people there and stuck these stickers by all the
hair dryers and the woman room. And because they were official,
I could. After about a month, I owned up to
the reception. I said, look, I've done something and they.

Speaker 10 (01:41:27):
Said was that you?

Speaker 31 (01:41:28):
Because the head office came and did their walk through
of the gym, and someone from a head office marketing said.

Speaker 26 (01:41:34):
What is what are those?

Speaker 31 (01:41:37):
Because no books are such a big gym, everybody thought
that it was an official piece of signage.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Good on you. You should be applauded.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
You should.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
You should have gotten a free gym membership for that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
And appropriate use of the hair driver.

Speaker 13 (01:41:52):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
They have the communal hair drawer as well. I mean,
come on, we just respect if it's a communal hair dryer.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
But I mean, I guess it goes one way. It's
not a it's not a vacuum cleaner. I mean that
that's a problem because that will bring some stuff back
and at least it's I guess it's blowing. Well anyway,
it's not good too deep into that, Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
What's your thoughts about eat a kid at the gym?

Speaker 19 (01:42:13):
Hey? How's it gone?

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Good, good good.

Speaker 25 (01:42:17):
One was more in search of a gym. So but
the background, I was doing my OE and the UK
and I was doing shop sitting, so we were moving
around the UK a week at a time, and I
was I was just signing up for like the free trials,
moving around and we ended up doing a job in
the north of Scotland and like a little in Red

(01:42:40):
Town and and uh so I got to one of
the laborers on side. I said, oh, mate, I'm looking
for a gym. Is there any gyms in town? And
then he stares at me and he's like, oh, I
don't know, Laddie. There's two gyms. There's the Jim McDonald's
down on the corner, and there's a Jim McConnell's over

(01:43:01):
the bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
So good, so good, yeah, great one.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
But no Joe down to the But no, no gyms
you could actually work out in.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Not not one that you'd want to do that, you'd
want to Jimmy, what are you reckon?

Speaker 5 (01:43:21):
Mate? I've got a different take on this. These puffcakes
that are ringing, mate, this is unbelievable. It's not a
hairdressing shop where you've got blow drawers and that right,
that's step real mate. Now, I'm christ you boy. I
love it, and in my heart of hearts, I used
to go. I'd have a look around, but always stuck

(01:43:42):
with a one gym I stuck with. I used to
go to Golds and haven't we look? But you know
number one was quiet and Cob was mate. There was
three floors, Tyler Matt. Three floors. One was straight out weightlifters,
one was boxing, one was typ one dough and I
kid you not to this day, I miss it. It's

(01:44:03):
not there. I'm in my seventies, but I promise you
and the old boy used to run at Old Oh mate.
You know it was hard sweat. If you go down
below to pick the weight, you could smell the shit
and the pete and everything else. It was hardcore mates.
The Reds, Yeah, I make there was Modis, There was

(01:44:24):
park in Russians and all no mirrors. I mean today
they quacked the mirrors. They too busy looking at themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Mate. I trust a gym that's run by old Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
I've seen some footage of early early gyms in New
Zealand with people smoking cigarettes between sets.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
You know, Jeffy. Thank you very much, mate, quick couple
of texts and then we'll carry this on Kiday. Guys.
I hate stinking gym members who have a mix of
sweats and links to the over And yes, you know
there's that smell in the locker room of a gym
that there's no other smell like it. When you go
in there, you just know you're in a gym locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
I don't know if they can bottle that up. It
would be a best seller if they could.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Yeah, but I mean you've got to say, like we're
talking about links here, but lynx Africa is you know
that that'll cover most my stuff? That is a powerful
scent that Linkxafra.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Does it really cover though or does it just come
to it? Yeah? Mixonment's a good smell though. Yeah, that
is a great one. I love the smell of liminent limitents.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call text number nine to nine two stick around because
coming up. Oh, this is a great text from Luke.

(01:45:38):
It is twenty three minutes before.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Your new home of afternoon tour Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
Afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
News TALKSB. We're talking about the worst crimes that you've
seen in the gym or bad Jim etiquette. This is
on the back of Matt Heath. He's got back into
the gym hardcore and he seems some pretty bad behavior.
Quick a couple of text and we'll get back to
the phones. Luke says, many were headphones, but forget that.
You are only speak louder, but you're grunting. Crone louder
also not a bad habit. Amusing though.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Yeah, I mean I don't have a problem with grunters.
Do you like that's a big thing that people complain about.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
I'm a massive grunter.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
When you get into the living must the last few reps.
I got to grip the teeth and get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Do you lift to fail?

Speaker 15 (01:46:29):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
Yeah, you lift to fail. Yeah. So you've got a
number of reps, but you've got to set right. If
you you don't you don't make the the the reps
on your final set when.

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
You're like.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
But then you don't do you don't do Aaron was
talking about, you don't then let go of it. If
you're on a machinery.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Ross, what do you reckon you lads?

Speaker 32 (01:46:56):
Selfies, yeah, one thing, but selfies in the showers walking
around naked is a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Thatregious.

Speaker 32 (01:47:08):
And yeah, I don't know, people just I'm not really
a care of it. And I think it's probably a
matter of time before someone shared a picture on social
media something and there's a naked foot on the background.
It's been to cause a bit of trouble. But that's
that's my number one I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Reckon generally is a rule if you if you absolutely
need to take a selfie, and and I'm guilty of that.
I sent one to Tyler when I was at the gym,
but it was a comedy win.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
It was a comedy one. It makes a joke associated
with about the phone, and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
I didn't look good, so it wasn't a vanity shot.
But also I made sure there was no one else
in the back. And I also felt humiliated because someone
looked over at me taking the shot and they thought
this pune thinks he's taking his shot. He's firing that
up for his social.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
That's a great one. Ross guys. People on their phones
were sitting on equipment between in between sets. They get
so engrossed in their phone that five minutes can pass
before doing their next set. That's your big one, Yeah, Jim.
Etiquette is to keep your sweat and like in the gym.
Nothing worse than the gym job and jills who duck
out of work for a midday session then come back

(01:48:11):
to work to call down at their desk showing off
all their sweat, and it's to prove that they've just
been to the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
It's just gross.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Yeah, the midday gym goers. I get you've only got
so much time in the day, and if all the
time that you've got as your lunch hour to go
down to the gym, I mean, so be it. But
you've got to have a shower at work if that's
the case, right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
What do you mean by that? Sorry, I'm not misunderstanding
the complaint.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
There were saying people duck out of the office, they
come back, they smash out the gym. Yeah, they come
back all sweaty and stinky, and then they were saying
that that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
Yeah, we're active, were for the rest of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Yeah, A big no no.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
I think anytime that you stink at work is not
a good thing, right, That's not a great thing. I
just want to go back on a point people are saying.
People are really being really empty this nudity in the
in the in the changing rooms. Yeah, I disagree. I
think I think you're allowed to be new, don't you. You
go and have a shower, it's natural you go and
shower and then you walk back and it's it's a tradition.

(01:49:07):
It's definitely a traditional and sports sheds and I've talked
to an all black before and he said that was
a huge part of the bonding.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
That's a bonding that everyone gets new nude And.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
What do you got to hide? What's wrong? I mean,
you know, I mean someone overly, you don't need to.
I mean, obviously someone could be bending down in front
of you. I mean there's a way to do it.
But but if you want to go to this shower
rather than trying to hang your your all your stuff
up to cover yourself up coming back and that that
you can't do that that that's that's too much, Edmund,

(01:49:40):
I think there's nothing wrong with walking back and if
it takes a little of time to cover up your towel.
I mean, I'm not talking about people that get completely
nude and run around with a wet tawil trying to
flick other people like we used to do it swimming
when I was at school. That's too far, that's that's
a step too far. But is it a big deal?
I mean, we're all born nude. So if you can't

(01:50:00):
walk around a gym changing changing shed for briefly, then
then then what would we doing here? We're all here.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Let's do a text poll on it. Nine to nine
two excessive nudity in the gym locker room. You've had it, excessive, exceptable.
I'm pretty sure I heard you say excessive.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
No, no, no, I'm saying, what would my word but
reasonable nudity? She said, nudity, reasonable nudity and the changing
shed respectful nudity in the changing room. I think that's
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Nine two nine too. I'll tell you what. Maybe I'm
the weird guy here, and easily I'm one hundred percent
I'm the weird guy here that when I get into
the gym locker room. I am into the shower, out
of the shower and get dressed as fast as possible.
I'm not hanging around in the nude as well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Have you got to hide, Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Nothing? But I'm not there. You know, if I would
ever chat to guys, I will get clothed before I
have that chat. Sit around with me, you know, just
lounge in the in the locker.

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Room having a weed chat. That's what I say respectful nudity.
I mean, if you're going up to a stranger, standing
in front of them, leaning back, doing your stretches while
trying to well talking to them, then that's excessive. But
I think it's just it's just between the shower and
getting back to your clothes and getting dressed. Then what
are you supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
What about the sauna? Do you utilize the sauna at
the gym? You must have because saunas are great, They
are very good after a good workout. Do you bring
a towel with you or you just go?

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
You've got to bring a towel with you otherwise you're
sweating all over the over the bench.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Yeah, but do you go a bit but naked and
the sauna.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Just open the towel.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Yeah, depends who's in there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Right, Yeah, what did what did soprano do? I'm just
trying to think I do whatever he does.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
One hundred eighty ten eighty and the text number nine two,
nine to two. They're already flooding in excess nudity or not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Yeah, And I'm putting together the list of I've got
a list of all these complaints that the people have
put through the flaws in gym etiquette, and I'll share
them at the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
I'll tell you a nation who loves sauna and getting
a bit nude as Denmark get a wine?

Speaker 15 (01:51:55):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (01:51:56):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:51:56):
It is?

Speaker 8 (01:51:57):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Yeah? Good god, You've got a good gym story from Denmark. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:01):
So I went and lived in Denmark for about six
months and I wasn't working, so I just go I'd
go down to this local germ sauna. But they have
these massive, big saunas steam bars, yep. And there was
there's a group that was in there every day every
day that I went down there, mostly immigrants, uh and

(01:52:27):
and you know they'd all sit around and sit around
all totally naked and chat. And then one day there
was also unfortunately a group of quite right when guys
who came in and all sat down and they are
all no nude as well, and I couldn't really understand it,
but insults started to fly and they started having this
massive punch up and all naked, Wow, all naked in

(01:52:51):
this in the steam room. It was just off the chart.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Wowow?

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
And what did you do? I mean, I suppose what
do you do if you're watching this? There's not much
you can do at that point. You can't get involved.

Speaker 8 (01:53:01):
Yea scarper.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
You put, you put your pants on, and you run out.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah is when you're I've been
in Japan not so long ago, and the on Sin
is an interesting situation of full nudity there. Yeah, and
you're not allowed in the on Sen. Yes, your nude.
It's the height of rudeness to try and go in
there in a speedo.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
And it'll be the same in Denmark as well, wouldn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:53:25):
Yeah yeah, no, you weren't allowed to wear anything. Yeah, absolutely,
it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Leveler, great level oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We got time for a few more calls on this,
and Heath, as you said, you've got a list of
the world of people in the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
You've come from. With all these calls we've got today,
I have compoler lists, the ultimate list of Jim Etiquette.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
This is going to be good as twelve to four.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 13 (01:53:52):
That Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US Talk said, be
coming up at four.

Speaker 13 (01:53:59):
It's hither duplicy Allen Drave We've won.

Speaker 33 (01:54:02):
The war an inflation baby, so how much further will
interest rate drop before the end of the year. Wellington
City councilors are whole an emergency meeting with looming threats
of government intervention. We're going to find out what happened
behind those closed doors. Plus, we talked to a Daily
Mail reporter about the world's obsession with the missing Mardikalpa family.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Getting the answers you deserve either Duplicy Ellen Drive with
One New Zealand next.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
On News Dogs v Right, we asked the question before
excessive nudity in the locker room, yay or nay? It's close, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
Heath, Yeah, roughly, I mean they keep coming through, so
it's hard to keep up with the count. But I'm
going to say, and this is disappointing to me, because
I'm a supporter of a certain amount of respectful nudity
and a changing shed fifty five percent roughly, I'm going
to say one hundred percent anti nudity in the changing
sheds of the gym, and I don't know how you can.
I don't know how you can achieve that getting back

(01:54:53):
from the shower to unless you're hanging your stuff up
at the risk of it falling on the ground and
getting wet, and you're little in the showers. I don't
have work. But fifty five percent anti nudity and forty
five percent pro nudity.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
That's pretty close. Yeah, a couple of texts in that regard.
Keep the junk and the trunk. I a year, go
hard gear out in the sheds. I don't go nut
on the lockers, otherwise other gents will truly feel I
never feel like a man again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Oh that's that's that's very generous of you, very generous.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
I've got a decent reg so I don't mind being
naked from Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Quick, a few more techs and then I want to
hear this list that you've got, Mett Heath, It's obvious
that you two boys have never played at rugby and
enjoyed the camaraderie of the open showers. Being naked in
the shower beside the dirty big prop is nothing compared
to worrying about what he.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Don't tire me with? Don't tire me with Tyler's brush.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
I was pro that, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Yeah, the team showers, go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Well you mentioned the all black and we're not going
to name names here, but right behind it, that was
how we got the team together. Yea uh and this
one from Shame my wife chumped off that and we're
going to read this one out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Yeah, my wife jumped off the bench and let out
a bit of a squirrel when a guy chucked down
the heaviest dumbbells in the gym. Hate it when they
throw them down like they are at the Olympics. Chairs
from Shane.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Oh yeah, it gives everyone a little bit of a fright,
doesn't it. Okay, So my complete list here, please, Okay,
So the complete list of Jim crimes as suggested by
the callers to the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons
on ZB seagulls. Seagulls so seagulls are groups of people

(01:56:32):
that go to the gym together and they all stand
around the machine where they go through their sets. Five
up to five dudes standing around and occupying a machine
for up to up to forty five minutes is a time.

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
No one likes a seagull.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
No, go to the gym with your mate. But I
think it's peers. You've got to peer off.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Okay, okay, that's good, okay seagulls.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Lounges. Lounges are people that use a machine like it's
their chay's lounge at home. They do ten puny little
reps and then they sit there doom scrolling on their
phone for five minutes between set. Yeah, you only need
sixty seconds. You only need sixty seconds between between sets.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Yeah, it's like they are sitting up for a nice
Sunday morning with a nice espresso on a newspaper.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Just move on, finish up right. Loungers Lurkers Lurkers people
that want to use the machine next, and they just
sort of lurk around applying pressure instead of just changing
their routine and going to another machine. You can you
can ask to jump in and go set for set,
or you can or you can find another place to
be just sort of lurking around, standing slightly too close God.

(01:57:39):
Exhibitionists and their people will will have come out in
support of respectful nudity or exhibitionists, people that are putting
on a whole show in the sheds. There's been a
lot of a lot of people unhappy with that. Spielberg's
people that are running a film film shoot in the gym.

(01:58:01):
Do you really need to film it for I'm sure
you're especially you know, a social media influencer, and they've
got about forty eight people in the background extras, involuntary
extras in the background.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
Quakers.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Yeah, we're not talking about the religious group. Between people
that repeatedly drop their dumbbells so loud that the entire
gym turns round. And finally stinkers, people that smell horrifically
bad at the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
That's a great list.

Speaker 10 (01:58:29):
Here you go.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
There's a list, the complete list of Jim Crimes.

Speaker 3 (01:58:32):
Seagulls, lounges, lurkers, exhibition as, Spielberg's, Quakers, and stinkers.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
Are you one of them?

Speaker 15 (01:58:38):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
Be better We're going to get that to Jim owners
to post art right on the door. We don't want
these people. Hey, good chat, Thank you very much for today.
Don't forget. We've got the podcast out. You can get
it wherever you find your podcast iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts. That's
going to go up online at four thirty pm.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
All right, been great chat today, Thank you for listening,
and we'll see tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
We'll do it all again tomorrow. Here they do, please
s yell them with you on the drive home four
to four. We will see you tomorrow.

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