Full Show Podcast: 17 June 2025

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 17 June 2025, Foodstuffs is celebrating their new Rolleston Pak 'n Save supermarket coming in under budget and early - but why does construction cost so much?

Then stories of buying a dunger house and doing it up. A discussion that went slightly sideways to Spaceship houses!

Then shocking renditions of National Anthems at sports events - what the worst example?

And - it is Bowel Cancer Awareness month and BCNZ CEO Peter Huskinson popped in for a chat.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Helly, you got New Zealand and Welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show and podcast number one four seven for Tuesday,
the seventiay of June twenty twenty five. Hell of a
show today, kind of confrontational around the cost of a
supermarket that's been built for fifty million. I think that's
too much for a supermarket, even eight thousand, one hundred

(00:38):
eighty one hundred meter square meter supermarket.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
A warehouse, let's be honest. And there were a lot
of henry people about that one.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, it fifty miil. It's cheap. Oh, that's cheap. It's
like fifty million for a supermarket. Luck maybe it's cheaper
than supermarkets and auckland that have been built recently or
other buildings, but doesn't mean it's cheap. There's still some problem. Yeah,
it cost fifty million dollars to build a supermarket. Anyway,
don't listen to me. Listen to all the callers that

(01:04):
came through that knew a lot about it.

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And there was one guy that built a tempool two
the sun. Yeah, look forward to that guy. He was
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Speaker 1 (02:38):
Stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything in between.
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons news Talk said the

(02:59):
this is news Talk said the breaking news.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, breaking news or developing news. So there has been
a smoke advisory at the New World Victoria Park fire
significant fire at that particular supermarket in Auckland Central, So
just out from the Fire Service and many in Auckland
Central would have got that big alert on their phone.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Fire an emergency, A large fire in College Hill is
producing smoke that is traveling southwest. Closed all windows and
doors and await further instructions. For more information, visitfire alert
dot n Z. So where reason to be close to that,
But we're well sealed in here in the my Costing
Memorial studio.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
We certainly are. So just a few more details that
have just come to hand from the Fire Service. The
fire started around eleven twenty this morning. In Fire and
Emergency in New Zealand has sixteen trucks and a command
unit at the scene, fighting the fire. The fire is
not yet under control, and if you're in Auckland Central
you can certainly see that there's still some work to
do to put out that fire. If you are in

(04:01):
the area, we'd love to hear from you. Oh eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you are in
the supermarket at the time, really can to chat you.
What are you seeing. There's many roads closed around that area,
and from photos that we've seen of the workers, some
very scared upset workers on these on the pavement.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
We're about a kilometer from there. Surely there's someone from
the Herald or news Talks he'd be down there that
we can cross live to.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, we're hoping across to Katie Harris, who is down
there from the New Zealand Herald. We're just struggling to
get a hold of her. But as soon as we
get a hold of her we will get her on
the line too.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
If she can't come through, I'll run down there and
report back.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's not that far. Is that you're a good run
of these days as well? Mate? Thanks mate, So we're
really keen to hear from you if you are near
that far. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Paul's just sex just drove pass looks pretty bad. Yeah,
that's Paul's report on it looks pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Thank you very much, Paul. But we're also sticking with supermarkets.
We also want to talk about this Rodiston supermarket that
is due to be open in or two months early,
I should say.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
So.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's a head of schedule and under budget. That's million bucks.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's the largest supermarke in the South Island. It spans
eighty one hundred square meters. That is huge, surpassing all
other pack and stave stores in the country. The project
has been delivered for underf fifty million dollars, which is
below initial budget expectations, and it's opening on October fourteenth.
It's pretty interesting because when I heard that and I
was actually I heard I heard this on Hosking Breakfast

(05:20):
this morning. Okay, we don't have that audio, so we
don't have a reporter down at the fire and we
don't have that audio. But basically people were celebrating that
it was coming under fifteen to fifty million dollars because
of similar but smaller supermarket in Auckland it cost one
hundred million dollars, but When I hear fifty million dollars,

(05:41):
I think that's a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It certainly is.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think that's a huge amount of money for a supermarket.
Where does all the money go? Why is it so expensive?
And look, I'm sure I'm ignorant. Absolutely, it's not my
area of expertise. But when you tell me a supermarket
costs nearly fifty million dollars in Rolliston, I think, isn't
it just some walls and some sliding doors and some

(06:05):
shelves and then some paint to mark out the park?
Why does it cost? Why does it cost?

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Us?

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Court, this person said the Pack and Save Highland Park
costs one hundred million dollars. So as this text here,
that sounds like a bargain for fifty million dollars one
hundred million dollars, that's in.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Senity, that is insanity. But that I mean, you know,
the one hundred million dollars for the for the Peck
and Save and Highland Park. Does that rarely discount the
fifty million dollars spent on the Rolliston Peck and Save,
even though it is bigger, because when you take out
the cost of land, arguably say that's ten million dollars
in Rolliston. That's still forty million dollars for a very
large warehouse with some racks because pack and saved by

(06:43):
its nature is bare bones. That seems a hell of
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well this Texas said, the new Walworths and Nelson is
costing seventy million dollars. I mean, no wonder. Grocery prices
are so expense. So if you can't get a supermarket
for under fifty million dollars, how are you supposed to
get your bloody broccoli?

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Are you supposed to get your bachelor's handbag for under
twenty five bars?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Exactly? Oh? Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call love to hear from you if you're
in the end street. Why does it cost fifty million dollars?
A lot of people very happy that it's come under
budget and I hit a schedule that is rare in
today's age. But if you are in the construction trade,
why does it cost fifty million dollars?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah? And how does that compare globally? It would a
supermarket be built built in Australia would it cost that much?
Would a supermarket built in I don't know rural China
cost that much.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, keen to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine
two is the text number. It is eleven past one.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That new will fire is filling our shrink wrapped tent
on our building site. It's awfully unpleasant, says this textor text.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yes, and if you are close to that fire, we
are really keen to hear from you. If you're on
the ground, if you were shopping at that New World
at Victoria Park, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, and this Texas is why don't you just go
down there? That's what I'm saying. If if we don't
get a live cross soon, I'm just going to run
down there and do it.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yep, you'll be pretty speedy. I think it is twelve
past one.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
It'd be very good afternoon two fourteen past one, and
we're talking about a new supermarket pair can save in Rolliston.
That's gonna cost fifty It has cost fifty million. Dollars
or just under and it's a eater schedule and a
lot of people are very happy at that.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, let's listen to Hosking this morning.
I do have some good economic news for you this morning.
I'm very happy to be able to inform you that
Pack and Save Rolliston.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
Rolliston is the center of the world. It's part of
the Selwyn district. Selwyn is the center of the regional world. Packinsay,
which is the biggest retail outlet in the South Island
eighty one hundred square meters, so she's massive. Is going
to be built under cost under fifty million dollars and
it's going to be opened two months early.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
So all of this businesses.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
We can't build anything in this country and it blows
out forever and it takes way longer than you thought.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Not so not so Pack and Save Roliston. Well there
you go, cal and sheep a celebration for a fifty
million dollar supermarket in Roliston. And look, there's no doubt
that it's cheaper than other other construction in New Zealand
as this Texas is fifty million sounds cheap given we
pay four hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
For a pedestrian cross that is a very good point, or.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
A peanut shaped roundabout in Dunedin coming in at one
point five million.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you're in the industry. Are we being taken
for a ride with some of these building costs?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And go back to the fire deep in supermarket land?
Here the fire at Victoria Park and New World and Auckland.
Update from the people that were working under the smoky
shrink wrap. Yes, we've called it a day. It's too
smoky and stinky. I've got my builders complaining since.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
The sixt Fair enough, that's a half day of it.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
You don't think about that. So you've got the smoke,
it's out and about and then you know, you can
close windows in a building, but if you've got your
one of your shrink wrapped building sites, all that smoke's
is going to go up in there. It's a horrible,
horrible situation.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well seasoned. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. John. What's your thoughts on how
much it costs to build a supermarket? You know John?

Speaker 8 (10:12):
Are you calling to John?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, that's you, my friend.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
So what's the fifteen million for the building, the building
in the lands, the building in the car pack, Because
you're all over the price with your pricing, Well.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
There's for the whole project.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
We haven't given any money. We haven't given any what
do you mean, we're all over the price of it,
all over the place in their price in John.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
But fifty million for the land as well, Well.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's there's the land acquisition as well.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
Yep, take that away. Just look at the cost of
the building, eight thousand square meters and at about five
thousand square meat, I would have thought it was the
forty million dollar bill, say the lands worth ten million,
there's fifty. And then you've got all your infrastructure, car packs,
store water, water tanks, the inside the building, you're plumbing

(11:01):
and elect school. So the whole project's probably likely to
come to sixty million, not fifty million.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, now they've said it come and has coming to
under fifty million dollars completed, it's coming in well no,
hang on, mint you they have it's opening in October.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
It's open in October. They don't what about all the.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Car parking, Well, well it's it's in Rolliston. So it's
not it's not underground parking or building a car park.
It's just some it's just some ash felt and some paint.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
Surely a car parking and it's stillwater involved the car.
Back to millions, So.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
What's your point? So what's your point? John?

Speaker 8 (11:39):
The point is what is the actual we're getting back
to the building. What's the cost of the building.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's the question. So you've rung up to
tell ask us the question we're asking you.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
Sammy.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thanks for Carl, John, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, And that is the question we're asking is is
take away the land and say generously ten million bucks
for the land in Rollston, then you've got forty million
dollars for this big warehouse. It is a big warehouse.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah. Well, if you're John, you think that that's that's
a fair enough cost for a supermarket. And it's just
really I'm asking if you do you think that we
should celebrate that a supermarket costs fifty million dollars. I
mean a lot of people are pointing out that there
was one in you know, built in Auckland recently that
cost one hundred million dollars. But does that mean that
does that mean that fifty million dollars is okay? If

(12:26):
one hundred million dollars? Yeah, you know, I'm just asking
the question, Trevor.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
Oh guys, how are you very good?

Speaker 11 (12:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (12:33):
I actually understand what you said. It's cost fifty million dollars.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Open.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
Not too sure what that first goal was talking about.
But you know, look, I'm in the refrigeration game, and
I'll tell you what. I don't do supermarket stuff obviously,
but that will be in the millions. You know, when
you walk around and say a big packing slaves. You know,
when you've got the freezers, you got the chillers, you
got with the stinky first day, the cakes are all refrigerated,

(12:57):
and when you look at all that and the guys
that have to remote with the motors and that are
I don't know, but the millions. I wouldn't be surprised
if a big supermarket they spend ten million dollars on refrigeration.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah right, I mean makes sense when you look around.

Speaker 10 (13:17):
Yeah, well, when you look around, when you walk around
a supermarket and you look at the refrigerated cabinets that
you see, I mean there's a lot of money there. Yeah, mession,
I guarantee it. But somebody who deals on that or
might know more, But I wouldn't be surprised. Actually, that's
the refrigeration. You know, all the refrigeration, and that included
when you put refrigeration and you put your your veg

(13:38):
racks net and sometimes are refrigerated day spray water and
usually just link with the refrigeration company. I wouldn't be
surprised at the single biggest cost is the refrigeration.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, that'd be interesting. So what have you got. You've
got land acquisition, you've got to prepare the site, You've
got building and construction. Obviously, you've got foot out in
the terriors which which includes all your refrigeration, and then
there'll be a whole lot of electrical around that and plumbing. Yeah,
I mean expensive. But do you think that if you
think fifty million dollars when you hear that, you think,

(14:08):
oh yeah, that that that seems like a good deal
for for eight thousand square meter supermarket in Rolston.

Speaker 10 (14:16):
Well, I'll tell you knowing or what the refrigeration would be.
I mean, we just had a pack and slave here
and the Tony and they've just got every every every
bit of their refrigeration equipment. Were replaced. I guarantee that
was in the millions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
So when I mean, yeah, and good good to chat
to you, Trevor, because there's a few teachs coming about
refrigeration as well, and you're in the industry. But when
I see that figure for the Highland Park pack and
save and they quoted the reason is the high Land values.
We all get that. But then the cost of construction
in Auckland. So why with refrigeration included, would it cost
that much more in Auckland than it does in Rolliston.

Speaker 10 (14:53):
Well, I tend to think probably in Auckland. If they
including the land purchase, I think that, I mean land
would be there in Auckland then in Rolliston, wouldn't it. Yeah,
you can add a couple of arrows on from look
it for the same size, but the land and yeah,
so I'm picking if it does include the land one
hundred percent to be the land in Auckland. But imitter
see what people come through who sort of know how

(15:14):
it's you know, cost of things in that. But as
I say, that's just one item, one hundred percent, you're
in the millions of dollars for the refrigeration.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Trevor very good to chat to. Thank you very much
for giving us a bus. Love to hear from you
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Plenty of teps
coming through as well. We'll get to some of those
very shortly.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Whither you go, slowly getting the answer to my question,
why does it cost fifty million dollars? Refrigeration big part
of it, big part of it.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yep. So we can take that box. Let's keep going,
Let's keep going, let's break it down it. There is
twenty two past one.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the Mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Nearly one thousand families out of emergency housing. Minister Chris
Bishops back with this was great news.

Speaker 12 (15:54):
We're really proud of it.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
There's a few things going on.

Speaker 13 (15:56):
I mean, the first is we adopted a policy.

Speaker 12 (15:57):
If you're on the social housing weightlist and you've been
in emergency housing for twelve weeks or longer and you've
got kids.

Speaker 13 (16:03):
You go straight to the top of the weightlist.

Speaker 12 (16:05):
Which means that coying or area in the community housing
sector can take you out of motel and you get
the first preference essentially to get into a social house.
That's made an enormous difference three years eg into labor.
At one point we had over four thousand families living
permanently in these motels. We this top of the view
that you were absolutely priority number one. No one wants
children growing up in these motel rooms.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We're talking about the Rolliston pack and Save that is
due to open on October. There is celebration that it's
coming under budget fifty million bucks and it is ahad
of schedule. But the question we've asked is why does
it cost fifty million dollars to build what is effectively
a giant warehouse. Refrigeration we heard from Trevor is a
big part of it.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Hey guys, the supermarket adds up to six five hundred
per square meter. The average house in Auckland works out
to four thy five hundred per square meter, so fifty
million is a bargain. A lot of people seem to
think fifty million is a good deal for a supermarket
that size. So you know, my natural gut instinct might
be wrong, but I just thought the levels of celebration
we had that a supermarket came in just under fifty

(17:07):
million dollars on time, was and well, this is incredible.
It just seems like a lot of money to me.
But you know, you could argue that the fact that
it's six thousand, five hundred per square meter for the
average house in Auckland is.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Horrificly expensive, exactly. And that's what it comes down to, rights,
no doubt about it. Construction across the border in New
Zealand is very expensive, and commercial construction incredibly expensive. So
when we see numbers like this and get people as celebrating,
but is something a little bit wrong when we are
celebrating spending fifty million dollars on a supermarket that is

(17:42):
effectively a big warehouse.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, and everyone thinks it's great that it costs fifty
million dollars, but I would say it was six five
hundred per square meter in the average house. I mean,
there's a lot more going on in your average house,
isn't there. I Mean, that's a bit of refrigeration in
a supermarket, but isn't a lot of it just shelves
in a big warehouse? Yeah, with you know some some
you know air conditioning you can see from the outside.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You know, do you have to meet insulation codes when
you build a supermarket? I wouldn't think so. Par from
the duration plenty of takes coming through. On nine two
ninety two, Paula.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Says high I met and Tyler. The reason Auckland building
costs is so much higher than elsewhere in New Zealand's
because of the cones that are needed to keep road
users who are driving by the site safe. This is Paula,
But you know, I think road cones is a nationwide problem,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah? Absolutely, Ian. How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 10 (18:33):
Well, good guys, how are you very good?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And what's your take?

Speaker 14 (18:37):
Well, my take is just the size of these buildings.
If you think about it, it's the largest, you know
in the South Island at eight thousand I was involved
twenty years ago, maybe, but less than that. And you know,
in requiring sites, and the thing is that at eight
thousand square meters, you know you've probably got two to

(18:59):
three times the size of that building and land which
you have to require. If you take the actual car
packs themselves tend to be a lot thicker and the
tar seal underneath them potentially because they don't want all
the stormwater coming off in one go. They have holding

(19:19):
tanks which you have to build. If you start on
the roof, in eight thousand square meters of roof and
then you just work your way down the building, you've
got eight thousand square meters of fire and the kidney
can cost as much as as the other guy was
talking about in terms of refrigeration and freezers. Your flooring
has got to be absolutely level across eight thousand square meters.

Speaker 15 (19:43):
It tends to be.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Tends to be.

Speaker 14 (19:46):
They say no fruls, but you know it's it's a
very next one of the key components. And then on
top of that racking. There's just acres of racking and
they were all heavily loaded. So you've got going to
make sure your colcrete and all that kind of thing
is you know, suitable for it. So there's a heck

(20:07):
of a lot of stuff that And that's high speech,
even though it's a basic building, or people call them
basic buildings, but they're not.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah right, they're specialized. See that's that. I thought there
might be more to it than just my fifty million.
Seems like a lot for a big warehouse. So thank you.
So much for that. And do you think construction costs
in New Zealand are prohibitively high in terms of you know,
projects in this country.

Speaker 14 (20:36):
I mean, I think a lot of us you know,
it just seems to be the supply chain a.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Lot of it pretty limited, yeap.

Speaker 14 (20:45):
And so there's probably a fear bit of in terms
of a lot of the stuff is probably a fear
bit of risk effective enterprising.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, in really good to chat with you. Thank you
very much for giving us a buzz. Now, as we've mentioned,
big news today a fire at Victoria Park and we've
been trying to get someone there. But let's go live
now to Susie Norkwist, who is at Victoria Park New World. Susie,

(21:12):
good afternoon, Good afternoon, So what is the latest? What
are you seeing? Are you directly outside the supermarket as
we speak.

Speaker 16 (21:21):
Look, this is a pretty huge response in spectacular scenes
here at Victoria Park New World, which is in central Auckland.
Firefighters are still battling this place. They will call to
the fire about eleven twenty this morning and they're battling
it from all angles. Really from here I can see
sort of cherry pickers from up above fighting the fire

(21:42):
and they've busted the hose is actually just busted through
the side of the New World. You can see where
the smoke has trailed beside of the building, and that
there are hundreds of people gathered around from members of
the public curious and of course firefighters from all across
Auckland and people in Coonsmanby, which is a nearby suburb
are being told to close their windows Grayland as well.

(22:06):
They've been pictures circulating showing the people can actually see
this across the bridge in Auckland's north shore and take Apoona,
so that gives you a sense of how big this
event is.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Anyone injured do we know?

Speaker 16 (22:20):
Prior an emergency have told us that everyone made it
out safely, which is good news. Construction workers were on
site at the time, and this talk that the spine
may have started in the storeroom underneath the building, though
there's actually a car park, and I was talking earlier
to a woman whose vehicle is actually in that car park.
She said there are a few vehicles down there. So look,

(22:42):
we'll hear more about that, and actually shortly there's going
to be immediate briefing so we will be able to
clarify some of those details.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Excellent, And is there any word at all yet on
how it started.

Speaker 16 (22:54):
We have heard that it may have started in a storeroom,
but that is sort of just word of mouth at
the moment. But look, it's caused a lot of damage
and traffic disruptions here this afternoon, obviously nearby suburbs as
they say they have been told to close their windows. Look,
it's not PCR yet, but later on, you know, it

(23:14):
could cause some chaos on the roads as well, with
nearby roads closed all around.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, and from when you're standing, you've got any idea
of the level of damage. Are we looking at a
complete rebuild here?

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (23:26):
Look, I'm no expert, but I'm looking one side and
there's this holes that have been busted from the fire
hose all across the builder. On one side of the building.
You might be able to hear the hoses in the background,
actually quite loud. But yeah, I mean, I would say
it'd be a huge reef of after this.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Susie, thank you very much for speaking with us. Stay
safe and we'll catch up a little bit later this afternoon.
That is News Talks Hebs Susie norkwith outside the scene
of the large fire at Victoria Park New World Headlines
with Raylene coming up.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, so interesting. We're talking about the cost of building
a supermarket in Rolston and another one at Highland Park
in Auckland. They might have to rebuild one not far
from Ponsby, which is not a cheap place to do anything.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yet exactly.

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Trump posted everyone should immediately evacuate tait Arm Civil defense

(24:40):
phone alerts have sounded in parts of central Auckland warning
of a major blaze at the Victoria Park New World supermarket,
Smokes filling the air at College Hill. Locals are warned
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Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
News Talk ZB. We're talking about this new supermarket and
Rolliston look shiny beautiful when it's ready to open on
October fourteen, and a lot of people are very happy
about it. Mike Costking for one mention that on his
show this morning he was chuffed good news, he said
in the construction center are sector, and a lot of
people would say that it's come in under budget, just
under fifty million dollars and ahead of time. Ahead of

(25:54):
time particularly that is very good in this climate. But
we've asked the question, fifty million dollars for a supermarket,
even a very large one in Rolliston, are we actually
getting value for money? Is commercial constructions still so over
low and in New Zealand?

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, my question is am I an absolute moron for
thinking fifty million dollars as a lot for a supermarket,
even a massive eighty one hundred square meter supermarket. How
how how you know? It's just been looking at property
prices in Rolliston and so you know it's it's it's
the town of the future.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
It is growing, yep.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
But you know that's not going to be the biggest cost,
is it? You land acquisition.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
There's a lot of land in Rolliston, which brings the
cost down substantially compared to Auckland.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
The Texasys to lay the concrete Alan would be an
excess of two hundred and fifty trucks consents during the
cost ten percent of total bill, plus the design and
architecture costs, all that before you've even hammered in a
single nail. Tim your thoughts on this and construction costs
in general.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
I mean, it's just a Karrent hospital at the moment.
And just along the road Frombly about a cord and
a half, there's a new Bumming.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
Store opening on Camera Road, yep, opening today, as luck
would have it.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
And that's a four thousand, three hundred square meter site.
So it's small and it was refurbished.

Speaker 11 (27:16):
Gilmore's building and it looks like, that's about fifty three
million dollars cost.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
To open the doors. I think it was about seven or.

Speaker 11 (27:30):
Eight million dollars cost of pictures from Gilmore's and I
think it was twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And that is that part of the that that cost.
You're saying that the acquisition part of that that cost.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah, I think I think it's there to say that
that's included.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
So that's you know, so that makes that quite an
expensive bill I think for the side.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, sounds like it was.

Speaker 17 (27:56):
And I mean, the.

Speaker 11 (27:57):
Whole footprint of the land was there, so they've you know,
straped a bit of the building out, but they used
a lot of the existing shell. So I don't know
what to make of that. That's Bunnings, that's a building company. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, I guess not for me to say

(28:19):
where the building costs are too high. I mean, I'm
not even in the game. I'm just some general nobody.

Speaker 18 (28:24):
But it seems expensive, yeah, And I mean that's my
point because because we can list all the costs, But
then my question is why are the all the costs
that add up so high.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Just across the board. Everything that people are texting in
the wild cost this much for us refrigeration, for the concrete,
for for the shelving, just keeps coming and coming, for
the for the for the what do you call it
the air conditioning or whatever it is, the ventilation, each
one of those in New Zealand seems huge to him. Yeah, yep,

(29:01):
you go to just before you go go to him,
did you say you're you're you're in hospital.

Speaker 11 (29:07):
No, no, I'm just mum there to drive up to
the Bunnings, which I will do after.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Just for a look, probably about fifteen.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Hundred meters up the road maybe yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
And it just opens to the opening.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Today give it again.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well I don't be able to give in there for
a look, but it'd be quite an event for how I.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Will should be a good sausages outside as well.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Might be able to get yourself sort.

Speaker 11 (29:29):
Of a cultural void.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
I think that'll be happening on the weekend. The saftigit.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
All the best for your mum as well.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call if you're in the construction game.
And because here's what I can't get my head around
on this fifty million dollars and it sounds like for
this particular building, it's quite a deal in New Zealand.
But we heard about the cost of construction materials, right,
and no doubt about it. That ballooned out and that
was incredibly expensive, and there's there's some changes have been made.
And then we talk about consents. Ten percent of the

(29:57):
project bill goes to consent paying for consense. That is crazy.
And again changes were indicated in the consens department and
the red tape. Is that starting to filter through? Or
is commercial construction still wildly expensive in New Zealand?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well this Texas says, Matt, you are a complete moron.
Fifty million is cheap for a supermarket that size, Steve right,
So everyone's happy. It seems like people are happy to
spend a lot of people are just happy that a
supermarket costs fifty million dollars to build in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, and he'd equaled you a moran actually rather than
a morn.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh that's a fancy moral.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh a morah oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty
If you're in construction, are cost starting to go down
and we seen some of those policy expert aspects start
to filter through? Or is it still wildly expensive to
build in New Zealand. It is eighteen to two back
fore surely.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
A fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten
eighty US Talks, B.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
News Talks that be good afternoon. We're talking about the
Rolliston pack and say fifteen million dollars. It's been celebrated,
it's under budget and ahead of schedule. But we've asked,
why does a we're a supermarket of that size cost
fifty million dollars?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, the most the Texas and callers are running around
patting ourselves in the back saying it's quite cheap for
construction New Zealand, which just shows I don't know anything
at all about it. But John agrees with me. Six
hundred and fifty million for predominantly a shelf of a
shell of a building with shelving a concrete floor. Building
costs in New Zealand are excessive, Thanks John. Yeah, so
that's my gap feeling, all right. Me and John are

(31:28):
on the same base exactly. Everyone else is like, whoo,
just under fifty million, What an amazing construction costs we
have in New Zealand just might as well just throw
anything up. It's so cheap you can't just accept it.
Remember brother, who is in large construction. He openly says
they add twenty five percent of the total cost to
building shopping type buildings and shop compounds, and they are

(31:50):
creaming it. There needs to be a government crying into
commercial building costs.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
All right, here we go, Yeah, here we go. How
were getting into it? Hello, Renee? You work in the industry,
is that right?

Speaker 19 (32:01):
I work in excavation mate, Yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
That is the industry and on the groundwork side of things.
How much would that play hard in terms.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Of the cost.

Speaker 19 (32:10):
I don't know how much it would have cost, but
I know the sites I've been working out there quite
a bit. So they would have had to clear all
the trees, shrubs, you name it, everything in that caddock,
everything out. They would have had to where the building's
going and everything. They would have to have dug all
that out and based it up with metal, concrete and
everything to that effect. Then you've got the car parking,
which I'd have to dig out and ash felt and

(32:32):
stuff like that. Plus have had to change the whole
roading and intersection around that supermarket. So they've had to
redo the roads and take take out a roundabout and
put in traffic lights so that you know, there's a
bit of a cost in that involved and all that
sort of stuff there as well.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
And so there's this is all above ground though this
site Renee, there's no there's no underground parking or underground.

Speaker 19 (32:57):
Seat it no, no, no, no, all above ground. Everything's
been done above ground. So and there's a there's a
craploaded car parking in there. So there's a lot of
land that had to have been taken down and stuck
with metal and then nashvelted and everything to that effect.
And then as I said, you've got intersections and everything
like that. They've had to redo the roading and all
that sort of stuff as well.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is that redoing Does the redoing of the roading fall
upon on pack and save that's not not a council expense.

Speaker 19 (33:25):
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I'd say they
would have to contribute towards that, because for them to
be able to put that supermarket in the other they'll
have to agree to changing that whole whole lineup and
set up of the road. So i'd say, there would
be a cost involved in.

Speaker 11 (33:38):
That for them.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
And so when you when you when you hear the
just under fifty million dollar price tag and how good
that they've they've done a head of schedule. You don't
hear that much in the country these days. But when
you look at that that that situation, you go, Yep,
fifty million dollars seems like a bargain for a supermarket
that size or do you think that it seems a
little pricey?

Speaker 19 (33:58):
Yeah, I still think it's a little bit brighty fifty mil.
And that's the mine. I mean, the buildings. I don't
think that buildings any bigger than the new one they
built out at Papanoi. Yeah, And I don't know how
much that one came in that, but yeah, I do
think fifty miler is probably a little bit extravagant. And

(34:20):
that market you mentioned before, the twenty five percent, I'd
say that'll be right across the board on everything that's
going into that supermarket.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Do you think construction costs are starting the flat line? Rene,
You got any insight on that, because there was a
lot of talk about, you know, policy changes for materials
that were border and cutting red tapers, that starting to
flow through.

Speaker 19 (34:39):
I wouldn't know anything on that. I don't do pricing
or anything on that, so i'd made I just basically
drive a truck and cut the product that side out
at Rollingston. Yeah yeah, so yeah, price wise, yeah, I
still think it was quite high. But I mean, I
don't know what's been involved in that whole sort of
scenario with that building and everything. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
So is Rolston the town of the future Renee.

Speaker 19 (35:02):
Supposed to be, so I've heard, But I don't live
in Rolliston, so yeah, a lot of subdivisions going up
out there.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, when you drive your truck around Roliston, you go,
this is the town of the future.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
No, not for me.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Thanks for your call. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. We're going to play
some messages, but we'll come back very shortly, and a
truckload of text coming through on the construction cost. We'll
read out some of those very shortly. It is eleven
to two.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Mad Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor Adams
Afternoons News Talks Envy.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
It is eight to two.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Maryland says, Hi, guys, six k per square meters of bargain, fridges, freezes,
check out, computers, shoving, racking, ventilation, ovens, friars, perfectly level floor,
double glazed windows. Not to mention supermarket Trolley's defo a bargain.
That's from Marylyn. Yeah, when you break it long down
like that, Scott, welcome to the show.

Speaker 13 (36:03):
Hey guys, just you understand that eighty one thousand square
meters Well, yeah, eighty one.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Thousand, eight hundred square meters.

Speaker 13 (36:14):
Eighty five meters by one hundred meters square, So it's
almost two rugby fields side by side, and that's just
the building.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, she's a big store.

Speaker 13 (36:23):
Yeah, but didn't I read the headline it's coming in
out fifty million dollars under budget, not fifty million dollars total.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
No, it's becoming it's being delivered under fifty million dollars.

Speaker 11 (36:35):
And below.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's on expectations.

Speaker 13 (36:38):
So you think. So I was driving trucks in and
around christ Church, and like when I was doing that
for the company I did it for, there were one
hundred and ten dollars an hour for truck and driver,
so you know, another forty bucks an hour. These days
are that and the last quarter you just looked that.
He said he's a truck driver. So one hundred and
fifty dollars an hour, ten hours a day, that's fifteen

(37:00):
hundred bucks for one truck. So you have a dozen
trucks doing that and soon balloons out quite quickly in.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Cost, doesn't it, Yeah, certainly does thanks to you call Scott.
It certainly a piece appears to you know. And this
fifty million dollars is a lot cheaper than other supermarkets
have been built. There's there's some a smaller one being
built in Auckland recently that cost one hundred million dollars.
So if you break down what the costs are, you've
got land acquisition and site developments. You've had to buy
purchased the sites on Levy Road and Rolston. You've got earthworks,

(37:29):
construction and building shell and structure foundations, structural framing, roofing, claanding,
size ofic strengthening down there of course. Yeah, compliance with
the New Zealand Building Code and earthquake secure. You've got
to fit out the interior, shelving, flooring, back office areas,
staff amenities, freezes, call rooms, checkouts, there's so much. And
then there's a mechanical electricity, electrical plumbing. You've got the

(37:52):
sustainability features, installation of solar panels apparently in their heavy
charging stations. You've got the lighting, the technology and automation. Apparently,
you've got sixty shopping go handheld scanners. That's going to
cost something just going through the ODT here ODTS that
put my my beloved local newspaper the target eighty times
has gone through and broken it down to a certain

(38:12):
extent that sounds like a lot four hundred and eighty
five car parks.

Speaker 17 (38:16):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You've got professional fees and project management according to easy
Architects engineers. I mean you can see it racks up consents,
approvals and compliance and that's not going to be cheap.
And then you've got you know, you're fifteen to fifteen
percent contingency buffer.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, So when you break it down like that, that
is a big list. That's a lot of things to
include in a supermarket, and a supermarket that's in the
town of the future. Fifty million bucks. Again, that is
a lot. Even with that big list, that is a
heck of a lot of money for a warehouse, even
a very advanced warehouse.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Hey stick man, here, we hear at pack and sav
always finding ways to save you money. And another example
is pack and Stave Rollison coming in under budget. We
leverage the hell out of supplies to feed our pockets
and save the money in yours.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Are very nice to hear from your stickman and nicely read.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Gariff's just come through fire protection as well. Yeah, judging
what's happening in Victoria Park, you want to make sure
that you've got some good fire protection in place.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Absolutely right. That is where we'll leave that. But speaking
of the Victoria Punk New World fire, there will be
more on that in the news very shortly with Ray Lean.
Then after two o'clock we want to talk about the
Old Door Upper. Did you buy a crap house? And
why did you try and do it up? And house
in and Vicago recently sold for one hundred and fifty
eight thousand dollars and it's an absolute dunger, but they

(39:32):
want to do it up.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's been described as the worst house in in Vicago
and there was a bidding war for it.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call love to hear from you did you buy
a door upper as that an art that is lost
in New Zealand and twenty twenty five new Sport and
weather on its way. Great to have your company. As always,
you're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons news Talks.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show
seven past So just a reminder after three thirty we're
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Speaker 2 (40:54):
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(41:36):
lou event. And that was something dear to your heart.
You were a big part of that for the past
couple of years.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah. I spent twelve hours on a toilet promoting that
last year day mission. Yeah, absolutely, but the toilet was
on stage. It was a symbolic situation. But it's a
very emotional thing. Interesting that that story in the news
about the you know, the final being sold out in
christ Church at the stadium and you know the local
christ Church Rugby. Can it be Rugby celebrating that no

(42:00):
Chiefs fans will be there? Surely you need to run
a system where you do you want people flying flying
in for another city to support their team there. It's
a weird take, isn't it. Isn't that a mistake? Shouldn't
you have made sure that there was room for chief
fans so they could come down there and spend their
money there, and and you know, just make it more
of a fixture exactly at least fifty to fifty just

(42:23):
to have a little bit of argie bargie in the stadium.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
But you know Ken tams in their rugby.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, they love it. But you know,
do they just want to celebrate by themselves and they
just want to watch the game by themselves.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Quite often they do.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, speaking of sport, I'm hugely excited.
And look, there might not be a lot of people
in the country that care about this, but I do
because I'm a huge Dodgers fan, huge baseball fan. I'm
a huge show Hey Utani fan. And for the first
time in two years, sho ha or Tani is pitching again.
So he's a Unicorn player. He was bought by the

(42:56):
Dodgers for over seven hundred million dollars a couple of
years ago, and he's been absolutely phenomenal. But he is
one of the rarest things you can ever imagine. He's
a starting pitcher and he's also a big bat. He
hit over fifty home runs last year, well over fifty
home runs, and he's hit twenty twenty four home runs
so far this year, but he's going to be on

(43:17):
the mound, so exciting for you. That's value for money.
It's over seven hundred million dollars that you've got a
guy that can pitch and bat and at one point
when he was playing for the Angels, in one six
start session in twenty twenty two, he went six and
zero with an zero point four to five RA and
fifty eight k's and thirty nine innings. At the same time,
he was batting at point nine to nine seven ops.

(43:40):
So he's an absolute phenomenal. He's a dude that can
throw a one hundred mile per hour fastball, who has
hit two hundred and fifty home runs in his career,
So he's just a phenomenon, absolute freak. So for baseball
fans and there are some of you out there, this
is a unicorn moment. We've got shohe Tani back on
the mound for the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
And Maddie will bring your updates on that. It's about
to kick off, isn't it. We've got ESPN on the
tally ready to go two ten, two ten, looking forward
to that, but right now, have a chat about buying
crap home. So Invercargo's worst house has sold for one
hundred and fifty or four thousand dollars after a bidding war.
So this house, if you see the pictures on one roof,

(44:20):
it is an absolute dunger. It's got corrugated iron on
the windows. The inside of it is all broken down.
But an absolute bidding war was underway, worth more than
a dozen people, was far flung as Australia, and most
of them had the intention to do the house up,
not to bowl it and use the land for development.
To do this house up. So that's what we want
to have a chat about. Did you buy a crap

(44:41):
house a do or upper and how did it go?
Were the unforeseen challenges that you faced with the old
door or upper used to be a real kiwi thing.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I'm excited about this house because it's so on near
my grandma's house or my grandma Mum Powell rest in peace.
So she was on Woodhouse Street. So I spent a
lot of my childhood quite close to this absolutely rubbish
house that sold for one hundred and fifty four thousand
and a bidding war on O'Hara Street down by the
Old Bluff Road. Yeah, memory Motorway Bluff. Howay, Yeah, just

(45:09):
street view so good. I'm just looking at my grandma's house.
What a great house that was. Ah, I'm down by
the estuary.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, good place in for cargo. Marcus lash obviously loves
the place. But one hundred and fifty four thousand dollars
even for this stung run in for cargo seems like
very good value. But they've got their work cut out
for them. If you go see the pictures in one roof,
it is it is fallen apart, no doubt about it.
It's so good luck to whoever's geez, gotta try and
do that up.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Geez, grandma's house not looking good.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
It needs a tidy he needs a lick of paint.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
You reckon, jeez, I don't even know if that would
go for one hundred and fifty four thousand. That's really
ruining some childhood memories there looking at this house on
the street view.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
You need to go down there and give it a
lick of paint. But oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. If you bought a
doer upper, how did it go for you? Were there
any challenges that you face when you started to do
the renovations. Did you have to sit in this crap
house for a long time while you worked up the
money to get it done.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Or did you just buy a crap house because it
was going to be good area and you were just
quite happy to live in a crap brand downe house
and that was fine for you. Hey, because I've raised
this issue about the Crusaders not allowing tickets to the
final for the Chiefs. Yep, Fred's just come home, come through.
So before we go back to the crap house situation,
let's just let's just let Fred have a word.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Get Fred?

Speaker 19 (46:23):
Hey, is there you til?

Speaker 17 (46:24):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Madie, Hey, Hey, hey.

Speaker 10 (46:27):
Hey, I just just a quick comment on that Crusaders
and Chess game and and all the tickets sold out
to the Crusaders.

Speaker 20 (46:34):
I think that so that I think the.

Speaker 9 (46:36):
Chiefs will warp them badly?

Speaker 17 (46:38):
Whp them? What do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's fighting words, Fred.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
It just seems a little bit It just seems a
little bit grimm doesn't it shouldn't you shouldn't you do
everything you can on you know, you're putting on a fixture.
You know, you make allowances for the other fans to
turn up. I mean, you could argue that they weren't
quick enough on the on the on the button, but yeah, yeah,
but I think I think you want to have as
many opposing you want, I reckon you want it to

(47:01):
be at least thirty percent opposing fans in the final
of the of Super Rugby some all.

Speaker 17 (47:06):
Yeah, definitely made.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
And that's why I think the Chiefs are going to
go down there and share of them.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
My partner, Chief's Manna, Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
What do you reckon? The score is going to be? Fred,
give us a prediction.

Speaker 20 (47:18):
Oh okay, okay, I think it'll be twenty six twelve.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Oh, dreaming, dreaming, mate, God christ Fellow, you're a good man.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Fred.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Thanks for your call. Fred. Look, there's a part. There's
a dirty We're going down a sports thing. I've just
been talking about the digest. We've got John here. He's
a dirty Padres fan, Fernando Tatist, the cheat. Get out.
If you're sorry, John, I'll take that. He has says
or tourney is as really as a weapon. Y okay, okay,
sorry I read that. I got triggered by the first

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half of the text. But then he has supported my
boys show Tarney.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
So save it at the We'll let that go. Good
on you, John, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is a number to call if you bought a crap home.
Love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Hey, Tyler, can you stop using the word crap? It's
it's really object says this text.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Could you a worse word, yeah? Or a better word?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah? Look, if you keep complaining about crap, well we'll
upgrade it to a similar word starting with this.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
All right, be warned. There's fourteen pass two.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, said, be.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Seventeen pass too. Have you bought a door upper and
how did it go? A story on one roof that
someone has purchased a very dilapidated in the cargo house
for one hundred and fifty four thousand dollars and it
is a massive to a rupper and it appears, according
to the agent that they are going to renovate the
home rather than bowl it. But love to hear your
stories about buying a crap home.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, and look to stop us calling it a crap home.
Because someone was texting about it being called a crap
home and they didn't like it. We'll call it a
rubbish house. We won't call it crap anymore because the
person doesn't like hearing the word crap on the radio.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Okay, so sorry about that. So if you bought a
rubbish house, love to hear from you on eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Just stick to the guys. I agree that you shouldn't
use crap on the radio. Preferably used term pooey. We
could do this, love your show. A powe house, a
pooey house.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
In a vocago that might upset more people, to be fair, Jake,
your dad bought a door upper.

Speaker 21 (49:25):
Yeah, in two thousand and six, my mum and dad
bought like a door upper, like a batch house, just
twenty minutes north of Dunedin in the place called Warrington.
Oh I know it well, yeah, so yeah, in two
thousand and six there was like a one bedroom, one
lounge sort of batch house that had been used by
the locals when they were building whatever they were needing

(49:46):
to build in the town at the time. I think
it was the whole the year it was pretty rundown.
I was only about one at the time, and the
house has just been built on and built on and
built on. And I've lived there for nineteen years now,
oh well in the year.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
And so right now is it a comfort comfy place?

Speaker 21 (50:07):
Yeah, it's so. They've bought it about for about a
hundred and fifty thousand were back in thousand and six,
one hundred fifty thousand and now on property market while
I was having a lot, while I was waiting for
you guys to pick up, and it's worth about eight
nine hundred thousand.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Now it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Wow, that's not bad.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Good return on investment, that one.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
That's not bad for Warrington.

Speaker 21 (50:28):
Now, Warrington is the best place in the world, mate.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
You say, Jake, you tell it.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Well, you know you want to have some decent insulation
there in Warrington, don't you.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
Ah.

Speaker 21 (50:40):
Yeah, well we're right down at the bottom, right down
where it's cold, right next to the beach. So yeah,
well when they bought it, there was no insulation, know nothing,
And now they're build up and it's quite warm. Now
I've got three younger siblings.

Speaker 17 (50:51):
They are pretty warm.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
So you might have yeah, you might have been a
bit young, Jake, But can you recall any time that
your parents got pretty stressed out with trying to repair
this house, or maybe your old man said, what the
what the heck have we done here?

Speaker 21 (51:07):
No, my desinity, So they were never stressed out. The
only time we were really stressed out was when the
Kaikor earthquake went and we had to run up the
hill because of the tsunami warning and also one of
the earthquakes in South America. We were also because we're
right down at like sea level, so we would had
to run up the hill at like three o'clock in
the morning get out of the red zone.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I tell you, when you talk about Warrington, you've got
to bring up the Spaceship house. Though you're not living
in the spaceship house, are you?

Speaker 9 (51:31):
Oh god no.

Speaker 21 (51:32):
I was right down the other end. I trying to
find the spaceship out every morning on the way to UNI.

Speaker 17 (51:37):
So I'll look at him.

Speaker 21 (51:39):
I've looked at it all my life, and I never
ever really wanted to go inside. I don't know the guy,
and I don't really want to know.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I was so excited when I was a kid when
we'd go out to Warrington for whatever it of us
at the beach. You were in the Spaceship House that
used to that used to weigh heavily on my mind.
Was it really was it really a spacecraft? So someone
still lives on it?

Speaker 6 (51:56):
My dad?

Speaker 21 (51:57):
Yeah, my dad always told me stories when I was
like five or six. I always knew he was just
full of it. So we've always just left the guy
in it goes.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
It just it just sets up on the on the
top of that bank. It just it just looks so cool.
But last time I saw it, it had quite a lot.
It looked like I had quite a lichen on it.

Speaker 21 (52:16):
It looks like, yeah, pretty green now I think it
was white when the first water was pretty green. But
it was like the first thing you see is your
ends of Warrants is the last thing you see. So
you think, oh, it's a weird much a weird place.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I've got to describe it, describe it for people who
haven't seen the Spaceship House. So it's it's got you know,
it's circular, you know, let's disc shape, looks like a
like a flying saucer. It's got oval windows all the
way around it. I'm not sure what's happening inside the air,
whether it's got bathrooms or different rooms or such, but
definitely someone someone's dream to build a spaceship house, and

(52:52):
they and they have. Actually, you know, just if anyone,
if anyone's ever been in there and can describe what
it's like in there, I'd love to hear from your
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I'm just watching a video of it, and cheap as
she's one out of the books, that's.

Speaker 21 (53:06):
For sure, knowing Warrington to be like a renovated kitchen
in there or some sort. But yeah, we don't go
on that. We don't go down there.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
It looks cold. The space ship hower looks cold. Well,
I'm glad that your your house is so nice now
and that your parents have done that up. And good
on you're Jake, and thanks for calling.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yep, you're a good man.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I used to boys to spend a disproportionate amount of
my childhood thinking about the spaceship house in Warrington. I
did because I think I thought, until I was about
seven that it was actually a spaceship that had landed there.
I think because you know how your parents just tell
you big lies. So I think we drove past them
once and my dad said, look, there's a spacecraft you
know that landed there in the sixties. You know who

(53:49):
lives in it.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
If you live in it and you're listening, by chance,
please give us a call. Well eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. You'd have to be a bit of a
loose unit, I think, and I love it right, Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've bought a
door up or a rubbish house, love to hear from you.
If you bought the worst house on the best streets,
get in touch with us and.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Can I just say there's a lot more base fans
out there, then you might think.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, they comes the kids firing throw it certainly is
twenty three past two.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZB very.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Good afternoons you It is twenty five past two and
Mad is deep into baseball. O'tanni.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I'm trying to watch the baseball on my MLB TV app,
but the internet's so slow at New Stalks hed B
that it won't play video. But you know, if you care,
it looks like so Otorney's batting at the moment, so
he has been pitching but I can't. I can't even
find out what's happened here. But it looks like, you know,
the giants have scored off them, so anyway, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
We thought we had ESBN two in the Mike Costki
Memorial Studio, but apparently we don't, so we're going to
try and get that on the screen. In the meantime, though,
we're having a great discussion about doer ruppers. Did you
buy a rubbish house to do up? Or perhaps it
was the worst house on the best street? And is
that bit of a lost art in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
The Spaceship House is classic. It's futuro collectible from the
nineteen sixties.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, so yeah, And also like I want to hear
if is there any house in the country that's cooler
than the Spaceship House?

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Yeah? Good call? I wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I mean, is the word cool or I guess interesting
note worthy? Hey guys, I think you can find the
Spaceship House was a bank office at the nineteen seventy
four Comwealth Games in christ Church as ed if I
remember correctly, it was super cool at the time, So
then they transported the spaceship House down to Warrington. It's
a great bat Yeah, Allison, welcome to the show.

Speaker 22 (55:47):
Yeah. Well, I've done twenty four to twenty fives or
those four houses over the years and they've been all real,
real gungos. I learned a lot about building myself and
it's been really good trip for me. The first house
I did, and the first lesson I learned is to
go in the budget.

Speaker 23 (56:08):
Just forget it.

Speaker 13 (56:09):
There's no budget.

Speaker 22 (56:10):
This is whatever it is, so, you know, so I've
just I used to just put on it, put buy
a bed block, a lane and put a house on it.
Whatever I could find, and there was some some I
put two on the one property, you know. So, but
it's good and it's much much cheaper generally than trying
to buy an existing house at least, you know, at

(56:31):
least one hundred grand in it.

Speaker 10 (56:33):
To be honest, at.

Speaker 8 (56:34):
Least, you know.

Speaker 22 (56:37):
And it was years ago and I've I've done that.
The last most recent one I did is probably about
ten years ago. I paid ten thousand dollars for the house,
seven thousand dollars to get it removed onto the place,
gutted it, spent eighty grand on it probably is now
worth so probably about seven hundred and fifty eight hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
It's a return. Was there any house that you purchased, Allison,
that didn't go well that you may have lost a
bit of bit of money.

Speaker 22 (57:02):
On the only time I would have lost money was
when one I built a new house and I nearly
lost money on that.

Speaker 13 (57:11):
That was not good.

Speaker 22 (57:12):
But there removal homes, you know that. Look, you know,
all you need is some good people around you. I
didn't hire top notch builders or anything. I did a
lot of the work myself with whoever I could pull
and to help me out. And you know, I learned
that in a different life, I would have probably been
a builder.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
It used to gave me. I was just going to say, Ellison,
it used to be something that first time buyers would
scramble over to get a house that needed it a
bit of work, because, as you say, you could save
quite a bit of money. But I wonder if that's
a bit of a lost art. Now there wouldn't be
too many young people getting into the property that would
go for an absolute dunge. Just maybe they don't back

(57:52):
themselves to have the skills.

Speaker 22 (57:54):
Hey, you know, I don't even really think it's too
generational either, because a lot of my friends that would
come out, I'd say I've got another house, come and
have a look, and they'd stand in the middle of
this wreck and go, what are you thinking? You know,
it's on a It is not for the faint hearted.

Speaker 15 (58:10):
It is not.

Speaker 22 (58:11):
And you've got to have a really good work effort
to get it done, because you know, anything can happen.
You can pull a wall down and the whole ceiling
falls down, which has happened to me with that sort
of stuff, And it's just that the end result if
you can do some of the work yourself, or as
much as you can even without just below you know,

(58:32):
I did it by watching people, and I've learned how
I can build things myself now. But you know, but
be a big part of it. And then once it's finished,
there's no feeling like it and people seeing people come
back and see that they've seen it at the beginning,
and people come back in and go, oh my god,

(58:53):
I can't believe this place.

Speaker 13 (58:55):
It's awesome, you know, be a great feeling it is.

Speaker 22 (58:59):
It's real good and I probably I'm getting on of
it now, but I probably do one more maybe for
myself on Elison.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I mean that's that's the inst ideas in it. So
if you buy an absolutely rubbish house and then you
make it better, then that'll feel pretty good. But if
you buy a completely pristine house, it's only going to
get worse from there, except it's only going one way.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Yeah, very good. Point eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call headlines coming up.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
This is interesting. The spaceship house is one of many
around New Zealand. Believe they were a set from Sweden. Wow,
many situated at beach beach beaches, around beach beaches. I
guess beaches are around the country. So is this true?
This is the spaceship houses all over this country?

Speaker 11 (59:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Apparently there's
one near christ Church as well.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Have you seen a spaceship house.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
I'd love to hear from you, or a real speedship.
It is twenty nine to three, you.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Thank you very much, Raylen and we are talking about
dur uppers. But a side issue that has erupted is
spaceship homes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, that's right. So I thought I was special growing
up in Dunedin when we'd go out to Warrington to
go to the beach where drive past the spaceship house,
which is sort of looks like a flying saucer with
over windows, and I thought that was just that was
just something amazing that had landed in Warrington, near my
hometown of Dunedin. But I've seen a lot of spaceships
this year due to driving in the rural areas before dawn.

(01:01:33):
Probably not spaceships, mostly lower to Earth near the clouds. Okay,
I think there's actual space ships. There was one in
Raglan that sold and moved to christ Church. There was
a spaceship house exactly like the one at Warrington on
a section in Mount Montaniwi for years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Are they're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
There's a spaceship house on the Avon River in New Brighton,
up the Dodgers, up the Dodgers. Yeah, good Man High
lad spaceship house south of Kaikuorta on a hill visible
from State Highway wan rout there everywhere, gain or welcome
to show there.

Speaker 12 (01:02:04):
Hi.

Speaker 24 (01:02:05):
I've been to parties at that spaceship house at Warneton.
Have you with the people that actually got it from
christ Church. They've been up to a show or something
and they I remember, and they arranged for this house
to come to Warrington, so it was quite a normalty
when it first went there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
How does it work inside? Has it got multiple rooms?

Speaker 24 (01:02:30):
The rooms all sort of come off the lounge. The
lounge is the main room, and then there's a little
bedroom to the left and a little bedroom to the
right of the main door, and then the kitchen. You
went up a couple of steps to the kitchen area.
That was basically.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yeah, so how many how many pe How big was
the party? How many people can fit in the spaceship houses?

Speaker 22 (01:02:56):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:02:57):
Well, I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. It will
probably just be well, would be smallish, I suppose, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah, And what was the gain or were they quite quickers?

Speaker 24 (01:03:10):
Were nice? Yes? And the owners now they've changed. She's
not listening, Dudy would be bringing you up on this.
She shifted down to Rose Niece, which is a suburb
of Port Charmers. And yeah, after a few years, so
then it's I didn't know that. The next lot of
people that bought the house, so yeah, and they bought it,

(01:03:32):
they put a greenhouse on it down below at the
back you couldn't really see it, just to extend the
living area of it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Oh, I'm just looking at a picture of that now,
that's where they had the laun tree and then so
like we enclosed patio on the back of the spaceship.

Speaker 24 (01:03:50):
Ah well, yes, I suppose it was. Yeah, well you
mean when you saw it was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Looking at pictures now from twenty fifteen.

Speaker 24 (01:03:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, this is well back right
right and the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Thanks for your call, gain or spaceship house at the
bottom of wahik to justin. You're calling in from Australia.

Speaker 9 (01:04:13):
Hey guys, yeah, calling from Brisbane, extra need and void,
but just want to let you guys know there's actually
a space ship home. The tweettheads you're on the Gold.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Coast rights as the same type that's sort of white
sort of disks.

Speaker 9 (01:04:29):
Yeah, it's very it's very similar. Instead of it being
one pot, it's actually two pots side by side.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
See that'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
That is fancy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I'd like that you could have a situation where you
get three or four of them and then some kind
of communal living area spaceship house in the middle.

Speaker 9 (01:04:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
So I'm just trying to look it up there justin
what part of Brisbane isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:04:55):
Now it's on the tweet heads it's on the Gold
Coast Spaceship Home tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
We'll check that out. You'll thanks for you call justin.
There's a spaceship house at Pouhada Beach, Golden Bay. They're everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Future ow house.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
That's a bigger on the inside than it is on
the outside. Like the tartist, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Good question if you own one of these future ow houses. Oh,
eight hundred ten eighty is the number to call. They're
coming through thick and fast. It is twenty one to three.
But we're also talking about doer uppers as well. Yeah,
so we'll get to a few calls in that and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Talking about the pitfalls and opportunities of buying the Crapper's house.
You can find after this house in the Cargo, which
was described as the worst house in the Vicago sold
after a bidding war for one hundred and fifty four
thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Yeah, keen on your stories.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I've messly derailed it because Jake rang and then he
lives near the spaceship House in Warrington.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
It is twenty one to three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
They'd be very good. Afternoon. It is eighteen to three
and we're talking about doer Uppers and also future row houses,
the UFO houses. There seems to be a lot more
in New Zealand than we thought asked before. How much
does it roughly cost? So this is just from AI.
We'll do some more digging on this. Apparently three hundred
thousand dollars in New Zealand for a future row house.
That seems like quite a lot cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
There are two spaceship houses in North Canterbury, one in
Sefton and one in Ohaka.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Never seen them?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Yeah, well, Peter, you bought a crap house nine years
ago and you're still working on it.

Speaker 25 (01:06:34):
I understand, Yes, I am, and I'm probably only one
eighth finished. Wow, it's actually turning into a palace. I
actually have marble on the walls. Wow, would work that
I imported from Saint Petersburg a week before the Ukraine
was invaded. I'm still working on that because I've just

(01:06:56):
faced behind it with white marble with the beautiful gray
streaks and a gold pint. And I've done all of
to scoes around the ceilings. I bought a nineteen fifty
three house with high ceilings. Yeah, unusual house on half
an acre in the middle of Cambridge, and everybody said,
you're an idiot. Paid four hundred and ten. Now we're

(01:07:18):
one point six and the house should still be demolished
because of the land it's sitting on, perhaps six houses
on it. It's right in the middle by the White Church,
if you know Cambridge, all beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Count Oh yeah, right right there.

Speaker 25 (01:07:29):
Yeah, I've got inlaidwood floors in the backyard because I've
got basically two lawns front and back the size of
two tennis courts, and around the edge of gardens of course.
But I built a temple out of granite with inlatee
floors of granite and marble, beautiful colors, just like a

(01:07:51):
floring Florentine church.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Really, So, Peters, what's your usual? What's what's your plan?
Are you making it up as you go along? Is
there going to be a day when it's finished?

Speaker 9 (01:08:02):
Probably not.

Speaker 25 (01:08:04):
I'm sixteen, I'm sixty three years old. I started when
I was like fifty fifty three, and it's just my
hobby and my wife does not mind that the bath
sat outside in the cardboard box to the cowdboard box
rotted and finally we bought it and it still doesn't
have the nine hundred dollars taps attached. But I've finished
the kitchen to where the taps now work. After eight years,

(01:08:26):
she's lived with us and not left me. So I
think she loves what I'm doing because it's a beautiful, beautiful.
One room is nearly finished. You walk in and you'd
think you were standing in a French chadow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
What are you worshiping in the temple? Are you and
your wife worshiping anything in there?

Speaker 25 (01:08:41):
Son? It's the sun.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
We all need one of those people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
And is this is this your Is this your full
time situation or are you running a job as well?

Speaker 22 (01:08:52):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:08:52):
No, I work five jobs, which is where the house
is taken. I've volunteered for some John Ambulance. I volunteer
for the hospice. I've been studying. I just completed my
fourth degree last year, and I just love studying. I
study in the evening. I worked when I had to study.
During the day, I worked at Countdown filling the shelves.

(01:09:14):
I'm in my wage currently. I do work in the mornings,
which is medical care for people who need it in
their homes when they've been released from hospital. I actually
never stopped working own. I own my own real estate company.
I'm not putting an ad in for that. So I
won't mention that Cambridge know me? Fox Agency? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
What was it?

Speaker 25 (01:09:38):
Fox Agency? Real Estate? Cambridge? Because yeah, you'll see a
fox in front of someone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
You're a fascinating person, Peter. So why did you get
that material from Saint Petersburg? Do you have a week
connection to Russia?

Speaker 25 (01:09:52):
Saw it online. I thought it was coming from from
from China. Actually the price of it, and then I thought,
oh my, I've sent money to Russia. I brought up
for my birthday to go on the walls, and then realized, well,
I've sent my money to And then I realized about
six months old. I think that family's probably lost at

(01:10:12):
Sons now. They were probably great craftsmen. They're all being
shipped off the wall, and I would like to send
them more money, but I think things need to settle
down overseas before I do that. Then I need to
get on with other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Now, Peter, is your house the kind of thing that
it's going to be attract tourists, attract rubberneckers. It is
it that spectacular?

Speaker 25 (01:10:31):
No, no, you can't see it. It's found one hundred
meters drive. I've got three houses in front, and I
got half an acre hiding in the middle of Cambridge.
I can't see my nine neighbors and they can't see
me because of the trees. Are I mean, it's a
perfect oasis.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Well, you're an interesting fellow, Peter, and thank you so
much for your call. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
That is a labor of love, isn't it. That is incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
I might sneak in one Sunday and worship the sun
and your temple where you're not looking.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
At a couple of teachs coming through a nine two
nine to two. We'll get to some of those very shortly. Greek,
you are pretty knee deep into a big renovation.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:11:06):
Yeah, we we were both coming out of pretty bad
relationships when I met my new wife. We got married
and we had no money, so we were forced to
buy a fixer upper. Really five years and fifty thousand
dollars were allowed, and we're ten years and about one
hundred and twenty grand. And I suppose and that's me
doing all the work. So it's a it's an old villa,

(01:11:28):
so it's a cool house. But we bought it from
the daughter that was born in the house after a
mother passed away, and his mum bought the house in
nineteen forty six and hadn't done anything to it right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Basically, what does the kitchen look like then?

Speaker 24 (01:11:43):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Is it like a nineteen forties kitchen in there?

Speaker 15 (01:11:46):
I had a range. They'd actually had to go at
the kitchen in the sixties where they put on those pink,
blue and yellow cupboards and lowered the ceiling and sort
of stood the best the wreck it was they could
a handyman he passedway in the seventies, so he was
a bit of a handyman that didn't really know what
he was doing. So we've sort of yah six power

(01:12:09):
points in the house. We moved down to two of
them were on the range and we put the kistle
on the first day we moved and brew the rain gery.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
So have you have you ever regretted it? Greg?

Speaker 15 (01:12:23):
Well, we didn't have a choice and it will be
beautiful home. But I regret that I had just started
my handyman career when we bought this house too, so
that I know it and I'm going to do it
when I go home as well, So I don't regret it,
but I wish it was done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
You know, will there be a moment? How are you know?
How will you know when it's done? Greg? How will
you know when you put your feet up and you
look around and go it's done?

Speaker 15 (01:12:47):
Well, the first bedroom was done ten years ago, so
at the time we finished, and the bedroom is probably.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
Going to need to be doing so you know we're
still going to do.

Speaker 15 (01:12:55):
The bathroom was just for us. The hallways, yeah, you
know we're still We're still got two or three dreams
to do. So I don't think it'll ever be done
until I'm dead.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Right, your tenacity?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
So any any quick advice We've got to quickly go
to a break, but any quick advice for people buying
a Rundown house.

Speaker 15 (01:13:17):
Whatever you think it's going to cost, double it, even
triple it. And so we're one hundred and twenty thousand
dollars in the materials. If I hit to charge point hours, yeah,
we're probably five hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Wow. Thank you to you, cool Greg, what and all
the best. I look forward to that day when you
put your feed up, send us a text out and
say it's done exactly, and then our window will fall
out or something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Look forward to that day. I eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty Right coming up, we're going to check
to someone who's been renovating their house for forty years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
And more spaceship houses are appearing across the country.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Ten to three, The issues.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way,
mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons Newstalks' be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
News talks there b seven to three. We're talking about
doer uppers. Have you bought a crab house worth the
intention of renovating and did it all go well or
did your face a few challenges?

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
And do you live in one of these famous futuro
space ship houses? Hey Matt, if you want multiple space
ship houses joined together, would that be a space station?
Cheers Carl, Yeah, I mean I would like to do that.
That's then one new dream in life to buy five
of these future o spaceship houses like the one in
Warrington and the one in Kaikora, and there's several in
crisis you will seen, yeah, and put them together on
a house you have three spaceship houses around the outside,

(01:14:31):
four and then one in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
That's what you need to do to stand out because
the future everywhere, you've got to do something a bit different.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Guys. There are heaps of spaceships that used during nineteen
seventy four Commonwealth Games and then sold off all over
New Zealand. Now, cheers Richie. So what would they use
for in the nineteen seventy four Commonwealth Games?

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
I got no idea? Nine two nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Let us know, Ritchie, welcome to the show.

Speaker 17 (01:14:51):
Yeah, how you done?

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Buys?

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Very goods, all right?

Speaker 17 (01:14:56):
So I love on Hamlet and so I bought my
first house at nineteen eighty six, about forty years ago.
It was a bit of a doom upper.

Speaker 9 (01:15:06):
So I thought, all right, I'll.

Speaker 17 (01:15:07):
Get stuck in. And I'm forty years and I've still
got the same house and it's still about twenty percent complete.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
And how are you feeling forty years down the track
and you've still got eighty percent to do? Times running out, Richie.

Speaker 17 (01:15:23):
I'm about to retire it too. Give me a little
bit more time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
And so was what was the hold up? What were
the challenges? Why is it taking you forty years.

Speaker 17 (01:15:33):
Well, I started doing it up. Now the better I
started out needs to be redone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
See that's the problems.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Yeah, treads changing that time.

Speaker 17 (01:15:41):
But got the upsiders. I bought my house. It was
built at nineteen oh five, so if you can imagine that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Yeah, and have you got someone else living in that
house with you?

Speaker 17 (01:15:55):
People will live for a certain period of time and
may tend to take off. No, I'm kidding about that.
But the upsider is Hamilton is the best place in
New Zale. And I tried to talk to you guys
the other week. Man, it didn't I'd get through. But anyway,
I haven't see that. I bought my house for a
pricely some of one hundred and ninety thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
How long ago? Forty years ago?

Speaker 17 (01:16:16):
Was it?

Speaker 9 (01:16:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Yes, it's quite expensive forty years ago.

Speaker 19 (01:16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:16:21):
Well, I mean real estate agents haven't made a lot
of money out of me, have they?

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Good point, you're a sticker.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:16:28):
So now it's worth somewhere around about two point three money.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Okay, Yeah, that's a good return on investment.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Oh you doing well, Richie? Yeah? Are you ever going
to sell up?

Speaker 17 (01:16:38):
Do you guys want to buy? How much was it
two point three I'll probably cut you a deal two
point three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
But you see that one of the one of the
bedrooms has fallen off again.

Speaker 17 (01:16:51):
No, no, no, we're all right. It's nelly. It's two
and a half story. It's on the river.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Oh, go on the river. Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Oh it sounds bloody good. Yep, I'll offer you one
point eight.

Speaker 17 (01:17:04):
That's not a bad offer.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
All right, Okay, well in that case, i'll offer you
one point nine. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Oh good, Rochie, you're a good man in Hamilton is
a fine place. Hamilton Gardens lay next level. A couple
of ticks to wrap this one up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
We bought our vela for forty five k fifty odd
years ago. After renovating over the years, it's now worth
five hundred and seventy five thousand. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Stories than that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
And quickly there's a ticks there about what they those
space houses were used for at the Commonwealth Games.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Oh, they were ben Zi temporary branches during the Games. Well,
if you've got one, I want to buy five of them.
So I want to put together the space station.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Making off that. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is a number to call, right, new topic on
the table, News, sport and weather on its way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Your new home are instateful and entertaining Talk It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk SEBBI.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Seven Pars three, Welcome back into the show. Great TV
company as always.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Okay, So, just looking at this whole situation in Iran
and US President Trump urging residents of Tyranne to leave,
backing warnings from Israel who have launched attacks on Iran.
Everyone should leave, immediately, evacuate. Teyranne Trump wrote as the left. So, boy,
it's a very interesting situation. I've been reading a lot

(01:18:24):
about it, and it's so intense it makes everything else
seem quite quite trivial. But I saw I was watching
this morning on herold Now and Ryan Bridge had for
our men from the Iranian Woman of New Zealand, an
organization on and it's the most interesting insight you'll get
into it and how complex it is, and how you
know the Iranian people and what they've been subjected to

(01:18:47):
by the regime there and how they feel out in
their complex relationship with Israel. So I thoroughly recommend if
you want to get your head around that situation from
someone that has skin in the game. Then I'm not
sure if it's been cut off as a separate interview,
but if you go to the Herald Now YouTube channel
and jump in about an hour and twenty six minutes

(01:19:08):
see the the interview from today's Herald Now broadcasts. So yeah,
very good, it's a very interesting chat. She's a very
impressive woman.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Well worth a watch. And also just a reminder. In
about twenty five minutes, we're gonna have Peter Huskinson in
the studio. Here's the CEO of Bell Cancer New Zealand.
It is Bell Cancer Awareness Month, so he's going to
be taking your calls and questions and we're also going
to be talking about the day and the Lou that
Radio Hodak he does what they have done for the

(01:19:39):
last three years. It is a massive event. Twelve our
live broadcast from the Bells of Eden Park. It is
a huge day and it's going to be raising money
for a fantastic cause.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
That's right, It's day in Lou, So it's sort of
it's a pun on day and Lou you know what
I mean? Yeah, right, Day and Lou because it's Bell Cancer.
The team broadcasts from a top porcelain thrones for the day.
I've done it two years in a row. I'm going
to be going in there in the morning as well,
because it's such a good good cause. Absolutely, I was
it Radio Hodaki. I've moved up over up here, but

(01:20:08):
they're not going to be able to keep me off
those toilets. And it's a great cause. And how can
people donate money? Because bell cancer in New Zealand is
a serious issue and it affects a lot of people.
We have one of the worst rates in the entire world.
But it's not a very glamorous disease obviously where it's positioned,
so they need all the help they can get. Beal Canson,
New Zealand doesn't get any money from the government.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
So what you need to do is text Lou Lubo
to three seven seven nine. That makes an instant three
dollars donation. Fantastic charity, as Maddie says, and absolutely they
need donations, So text that number through again, Lou to
three seven seven nine and we'll have Peter in studio
in about twenty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Yes, if you've got any questions on the issue. Eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two
is text number.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Now, this is going to be an interesting discussion. Guitar
driven rendition of UK national anthem at Rugby Final divides fans.
So this was an instrumental guitar cover of God Save
the King was played by social media personality Sam Ryder
instrumental uh and by all accounts it was a fine

(01:21:13):
sounding instrumental national anthem. But it's upset.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Sounds pretty good so far. People are singing along now
coming up to where I think he loses it. That's
pretty cool.

Speaker 26 (01:21:42):
Mister's note there, there you go, God say, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
I think his problem there is that he didn't keep
to a set. He lost time, so then the crowd
singing along and the players sing along couldn't keep up
with his pace because it changed quite a lot. And
also he didn't bend up to that note when he
went up a few octaves.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
So when he got a bit excited and did those
extra lecks, then he kind of lost the crowd at
that point.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
If he just stayed in the lower register, I think
he'd been a right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
So it's upset. A lot of people on social media
are in the UK. Dan Cole was one of the
players and he appeared, according to media, visibly shocked along
with other players and onlookers, and the response on social
media imagine retiring after hearing that it was his last
game and other fans commented that the electric guitar rendition
was very American, hideously American antics, they said, and it

(01:22:46):
was offensive to the UK national anthem.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Oh really hideously American, and Americans do the best national
anthems of all time. Listen to this Chris Stapleton at
the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. That's just
having guitar. It's a great national anthem. That's beautiful. So

(01:23:32):
I guess the question is what's respectful for a national anthem?
How does it have to be performed? Is it okay
if it's just a screeching guitar, I mean, the sentiments
still there, people can still sing along. I mean, listen
to Hendrick's Star Spangled banner. Is about fifty people just
texted in.

Speaker 27 (01:23:54):
We're starting I listen too high. And this is legendary.
It was very controversial at the time in nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 6 (01:24:15):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I mean, arguably, it sounds horrible. So you know, it's
not the first time in national anthem's been delivered on
an electric guitar. Of course, as I said before, that
was that woodstock in nineteen sixty nine. So it's more
of a happy statement from Jimmy Hendrix as opposed to

(01:24:43):
at an actual international sporting fixed ure.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Yeah. The Chris Stapleton, why, I've heard it before, but
i'd never seen the video and as we were recording
that in the players who were in absolute tears when
he was singing that national anthem, that was phenomenal, It wasn't.
I mean that gives me Goosey's listening to both of those,
Chris Stapleton and Jimmy Hendrix. But the Chris Stapleton one,
when you've got growing NFL players and absolute tears, you

(01:25:08):
know that it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Yeah, Well, what is respectful and what is disrespectful in
the national anthem? What do you want to see? I
saw one at Eden Park recently where they had a
whole choir backing it up because sometimes people just mess
it up. And we all remember Crystal Collins. I think
it was in Chicago before the International Rugby League fixing
between the Kiwis and Tonga, and she was an American.

(01:25:30):
It turned up, didn't seem to know the words or
the tune and she'll try and find the audio. That's right, Yeah,
that's disrespectful. But if you turn up and you give
an honest skull on a guitar of a national anthem,
then beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
How do you reckon?

Speaker 23 (01:25:41):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Would go to New Zealand. So just before an All
Blacks game and someone rocks out with an electric guitar
for our national anthem, how do you reckon? The crowd
would respond.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Yeah, and also yeah, someone pointed out Brian May, what
about when he did the instrumental God Save the Queen
a top Buckingham Palace. Yeah, that was something.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call? Is this disrespectful? Or do you love it?
Do you want to see more of this? And should
we do it? Here in New Zealand? It is quarter
past three, very good afternoon, and we're talking about a
bit of controversy over an instrumental national anthem played on
electric guitar and the UK God Saved the King. It
was a social media personality, Sam Rider, and he upsets

(01:26:22):
some of the fans listening. They said it was disrespectful
to play God Save the King on electric guitar. Are
they right or are they wrong?

Speaker 19 (01:26:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
I mean he's got half of it right. I mean,
if we go back to twenty and eighteen, I believe
it was in Denver, the League International between Tonga and
the Kiwis, and I cannot the only version of I
can find is the TV one report of it. So
you've got a journalist popping and every now and then.
But this is Crystal Collins.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
God defend New Zealand from hearing the anthem like this
American singer Crystal Collins first missing the word and then
the tune clearly battling the Kiwi's listening to it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
That would have to just about go down as the
worst rendition I've ever heard of the New Zealand national
anthem at a sporting event. Oh that's so bad. Imagine
turning up to sing the national anthem at a sporting
event and you neither you neither know the lyrics or
the tune to the song, and you just wing it.
It's like that guy that was signing in South Africa

(01:27:44):
when he didn't know how, he didn't know sign language.
I mean, brazen to turn up, you know, fake it?
Do you make it? As one thing, but turning up
to sing a national anthem knowing neither the tune nor
the song.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Is it's a lot of confidences.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
That's a lot of confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
She should be blacklisted from New Zealand, that woman.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, well she yeah, I mean I think she took
the criticism quite personally. She's actually quite a good sing
I've singing at jazz clubs and stuff for the Crystal Collins.
But you know, maybe she was calling on the last day,
someone was sick. I don't know, but brave to do it. Shane,
your thoughts on the anthem?

Speaker 20 (01:28:17):
Yeah, boys, how are we there?

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
Were good?

Speaker 24 (01:28:20):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (01:28:20):
Look the poems.

Speaker 20 (01:28:21):
They love the sing along, don't they.

Speaker 17 (01:28:23):
You go.

Speaker 20 (01:28:23):
You know, I haven't been to the UK to a
sporting event over there, but they sing the national anthems.
You look at the Wealth, the Scottish, the British, they
love to sing the national anthem of I have been
lucky enough to go to a hue sporting events in
the United States and the performance of the national anthem
there is just that it's a performance people that not

(01:28:46):
a lot of people sing in American national anthem. They're
there or see the performance, right, Like Chris Chris Stapleton
at the super Bowl. People go and see Chris Dobleton
just because it sees Christableden and he just singing the
national anthem, so I think the poems they love her
sing along and just listening to that guy on the
electric guitar. Yeah, like you say, it was just going

(01:29:08):
a wee too long and the crowd really couldn't get
in with it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Yeah, that's a really good point. I hadn't thought of that.
That that the how much you know sporting fans over there,
they love to sing, and that's that's part of it,
more so than much more so than it is in
New Zealand. So what was annoying to them is a
that he didn't keep the time and ba wasn't really
you can't really just sing along to a guitar solo.
That's a very good point showing.

Speaker 20 (01:29:32):
That's where like some of the spine chilling moments you know,
the Flare of Scotland at Murrayfield and you know the
Welsh national anthem at Cardiff and even you know, God
Save the King at Twickenham to they're the spine chilling. Yeah,
you know moments in sport the Americans they do it
a wee bit different. The performance is the performance, and

(01:29:54):
they're there to see the performer.

Speaker 10 (01:29:56):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I was at the Rugby World Cup Final in twenty
fifteen at Twickenham, and of course England had been knocked out,
so it was it was Australia, New Zealand the All
Black Swallabies. But there was still a lot of England
fans that were there because you know, they bought the tickets,
so it's still more English fans, and there were Kiwi's
or Australian fans, and so they were just singing. They
were just singing their own songs across it. They weren't

(01:30:18):
really watching the game. It was just it was much
louder and all we could come up with in the
all Black section was all. That's all we could come
up with. We tried to get a da but of
Dave Dobbin going, but we just don't have that. It's
just not a tradition here to sing at sporting events,

(01:30:39):
is it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
No.

Speaker 20 (01:30:42):
But I think, like I said, I'll be lucky enough
to go to a few baseball games in the States
and the people aren't. The people aren't household names who
sing the national anthem. But I tell you the crowd
are invested in that person. Yeah, yeah, and they give
them a standing ovation they've got. They take their hats
off and they put their head on their heart and yeah,
all that type of stuff. They're very pro all like that,

(01:31:03):
but they don't sing along to the national anthem.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
I was at a at a Cubs game at Wrigley
Field in about twenty sixteen, in the year that the
Cubs finally finally won the World Series, and the national
anthem was on, and this big guy, this burg African
American guy beside me and he goes, take your hat off, son,
He and why am you had start hustling me for
not having my hat off for the next anthem. I

(01:31:26):
was like, oh, I'm from New Zealand. He goes, oh, okay,
fair enough.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
He was furious that I didn't take my head off
for the next fairy Patrioto. Yeah, Shane. Just a final question,
how do you think it would go down to New
Zealand if you've got someone out on an electric guitar
before the All Blacks instrumental do you think that will
go down?

Speaker 6 (01:31:43):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:31:43):
Hit No, I think I think we've you know, in
the last ten or fifteen years, I think I think
we've actually done quite well at singing the national anthem,
both in Moldy and English. I think I think it.
Look don't get me wrong. I'm a massive fan of
just play the music and let the crowd sing. We

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get when we get people into singing. Yep, some of
them are fantastic and then some of them just absolutely awful,
as that lady in Dever was. But I would rather
just have music and just leave the crowd sing it.
And you know, like I'm down here in the South
and move being to a few test matches at Forsyth

(01:32:24):
bat here and when the crowd gets singing in there,
it's awesome. It is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Yeah, thank you for you call shame.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of call. Plenty of texts coming through, a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Of people pointing out that Whitney Houston's performance of the
Star Spangled Banner. I'm not sure exactly what the year was,
but I mean that is an incredible performance from her.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
What a singer she is that way. Yeah it was, Yeah,
it was. It is twenty four past three. We'll take
more of your phone calls very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Yeah, Apparently some people are getting really angry because referring
to English as poems Saint's racist?

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Okay, doesn't it know that?

Speaker 6 (01:32:58):
If right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
If you're English? Do you like do you not like
being called poems?

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Nine nine two.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
That heathn the itams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on news talks'd be good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
It is twenty seven past three. We're talking about some
controversy over in an electric guitar instrumental of God Save
the King at a football match.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Yeah, and look, I can confirm we've we've had multiple
communications from people that have moved to New Zealand from
England and Britain as a whole, and they're all saying
they don't find pom offensive. Okay, it's all okay, it's
all okay. So the person that said that there was
there was racism going on calling English people poms, it isn't.
According to several dozen poems.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
And so many tecks have come through. They love it.
In fact, some of them are saying, so good to
put that one to bed. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. So yeah, Gavin,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 9 (01:33:58):
There here you go.

Speaker 28 (01:33:59):
I bolways, I think so many poms things probably a
bit wrong because doesn't actually mean prisoner of your majesty. Therefore,
we've have probably better calling the Aussies poems from me,
to be honest.

Speaker 20 (01:34:12):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 28 (01:34:14):
Whether I think your programm manager was trying to find that.
I saw a guy playing a guitar on YouTube. Outside
I looked like a lifestyle block of New Zealand when
I saw with a couple of flags, and he played
the last post on a guitar, and it was wow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
I've never heard that on anything other than a bugle
or a trumpet.

Speaker 28 (01:34:36):
Neither had I until I until I heard it. And
I don't know whether we've got the same guy. But
the one I saw I played it a few times.

Speaker 15 (01:34:43):
He was pretty good at what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Oh yeah, we might have it here for you. Standing
outside his garage, KII flag Aussie flag for inzac Dame,

(01:35:07):
like I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
If it's I thought it was at a dawn ceremony
because I was listening at thinking, I don't know playing
that at the dawn ceremony. But if he's outside his
own garage with the flag, then that is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Yeah, I think if you call Gavin, I mean, there's
nothing more haunting though than the bugleist. Yeah, and doing
it all with their lips, you know, when it's not
the trumpet, with the with the you know, with the buttons. Yeah,
we're just doing all the lips. It actually it makes
me but the emotional.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
One of the most powerful, most powerful bits of music
you can hear in New Zealand, doesn't it right? I
think that's where we'll leave it. But so many texts
have come through, they're still coming through about the pom
as well, and a lot a lot of poems, so
to speak, are okay with the tomb poms.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
It's that I'm a palm. Being called a pom is
no different than being called a KeyWe It doesn't matter. Yeah,
definitely not racist, says this person as a pom. I
don't find it racist. There, very good, all right, But
what I will do is give you a quick blast
of Whitney Houston performing the national anthem. It's Super Bowl,
widely considered.

Speaker 29 (01:36:12):
The greatest performance of that national answer in ninety ninety one,
wasn't there times?

Speaker 20 (01:36:24):
Here we go?

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Whisper It's beautiful? Look it up on YouTube if you
if you if you bloody, yeah, if you want to
see that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
That makes me feel patriotic and I'm not even American,
poor old Whitney. Yeah, what a talent. Right, that was
a great discussion, Thank you very much. Coming up very
shortly just outside studio is CEO of Bell Cancer New Zealand,
Peter Huskinson. He's going to be taking your calls and questions.
It is of course Bell Cancer Awareness months. So love
to hear from you on O eight hundred and eighty

(01:36:58):
ten eighty. If you've got a question or a comment
for Peter, he is standing by, so get in early
and the text numbers nine two ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Mark Roofer apparently does a version of the last post.
I bet that's good because Kof's going to be one
of the greatest guitarists of all time if you ask.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Me, We've got to find that right. Headlines coming up then,
Peter Huskinson in studio it is twenty nine to four.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
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(01:37:46):
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(01:38:08):
one one hundred percent renewable energy, saying it's not achievable.
The acting Prime Minister is welcoming back his governments three
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(01:38:29):
a person works. What to know about the fainting between
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enzid Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Thank you very much. Raylean so iconic radio personality, sporting
legends and other well known kiwis will unite tomorrow from
six am for a twelve hour live broadcast from the
bowels of Eden Park for Radio Hurraki's third Day and
lou event to raise awareness of bow cancer. The charity
Belcanson New Zealand does fantastic work. It obviously affects a
lot of kiwi's and right now we have the CEO

(01:39:03):
of Bellcancer New Zealand, Peter Huskinson in Studioko. Peter get A.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
You're you're the new new boss. You've been there for
about seven months, is it right? Yeah, that's correct. Yeah,
and how's the guy?

Speaker 30 (01:39:15):
It's going really well. Actually, I've been really struck by
just the amazing I guess resilience of people walking through
this journey they were able to stand beside, but also
the passion of people who want to see better for
New Zealand and want to be part of the movement
to make things happen and change things.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
So, yeah, so how you guys funded.

Speaker 30 (01:39:34):
Are We don't take any central government funding. That's so
that means we're not super flush, but it also means
that we can be completely independent and when we see
things that aren't as they should be, we can call
that out and advocate for the right thing. So we
get donations. We have some wonderful sponsors who give us
money and some companies who we work with, but also
I would say the vast majority is just regular key.

(01:39:57):
He's just giving us slipping as a few quid during
movie your in February, or maybe giving us a little
bit every month out of their paycheck. And that's really
the lifeblood of the charity.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Well, if you want to donate some money now, you
can teake lo lou to three seven seven nine. That's
lou to three three seven nine and there'll be a
three back donation right there. How bad is the bell
cancer problem in New Zealand.

Speaker 30 (01:40:20):
Look, it's a big deal for three reasons. So firstly
it's common. You know, we've got among the highest bol
rates in the world. About three hundred kiwis this month
will be told you have bowcuncer.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
That's a lot of people.

Speaker 30 (01:40:31):
Secondly, it's deadly, so after lung councter, it's a top
cands of killer in New Zealand. So there will be
one hundred families each month will lose a loved one
and that's that's a tragedy. But the good news is
it's treatable. So ninety people survive bycuncer if they're called
at stage one. That means that forty five lives every

(01:40:53):
month could be being saved. Forty five is a key
number that really motivates.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
It so important. Now, just while while we're having a
chat during the air break, you mentioned a survey that
you've undertaken. The full results are yet to come out,
but was a fascinating state. You mentioned about how few
Kiwis could name a single symptom of bell cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 30 (01:41:12):
We've been We've partnered with t R a big market
re search agency who do a lot of national work.
And what they did is they sampled right across New
Zealand represents.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
It by age, ethnicity, location of urban rural.

Speaker 30 (01:41:24):
What they found was when asked can you name a
symptom of bow concern, one in four people couldn't name.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
A single one.

Speaker 30 (01:41:31):
And as there are probably five key ones to look for,
that's a real issue.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Yeah, okay, okay, I said this, I'll just ever go
here is bleeding from your backside, a change in your
bell movements, that's right, yeah, pains and your tummy three
role now now, now I'm grasping. Now, now I'm serious.

(01:41:59):
Is it like some something like tiredness or number four
four our ah to me?

Speaker 30 (01:42:08):
Okay, the other one is unexplained weight.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Loss, unexplained wastet weight loss? Right, okay, so what's the
nicest way to say bleeding from your bit side.

Speaker 30 (01:42:20):
Yeah, you're spotting something red when you've been to the loop,
do something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
Yeah, And who gets hit by a bettle? Cancer in
New Zealand.

Speaker 30 (01:42:27):
So there's a common myth that this is just a
thing for old people. It is true that your risk
does rise with age, but what we're seeing is really
a lot of people who are under fifty increasing numbers,
about twenty three percent rise per decade in people under
fifty getting about concert.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
So's it's getting worse.

Speaker 30 (01:42:48):
It's getting more common, that's right. We're having some success
for the people at an older age because we're screening
them or yeah. Yeah, and screening actually prevents cancer, doesn't
just cure it, so it doesn't just catch it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
So so I.

Speaker 30 (01:43:00):
Think it's still it's still more likely as you get older,
but that that curve is tilting, if you like, so
becoming more and more common, which is way around the world.
Just as our Prime Minister Lass him promised, people are
screening much earlier forty five in some places at at
forty and so on.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Okay, if you've got a question for Peter, now is
your opportunity oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and not
just a question if you want to share your journey
with being diagnosed or a close family or friend who
has been diagnosed with Belle cancer and that journey love
to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties.
The number to call nine two ninety two is the
text number. It is twenty to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams
afternoons youth talks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
They'd be seventeen to three and we are joined in
studio buying the CEO of Bell Cancer New Zealand, Peter Huskinson. Peter,
thank you very much again for your time. It is
of course beow Cancer Awareness months as well. And just
a reminder if you want to donate, text lou L
Low to three seven to seventy nine. That makes an
instant three buck donation fantastic charity, and boy do we

(01:44:09):
need more awareness around belking.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
We've got full lines, but keep trying on eight hundred
and eighteen eighty. Here's just a question that I thought
was interesting that got texted in early. Got texted that
someone texted in earlier. My son keeps getting reading us
on his paper. He's sixteen. Doc says it's nothing, but
I am worried. Is it possible to bypass doctor and
get a private colonoscopy?

Speaker 30 (01:44:29):
Hi, Yes, it is. It is possible to do that.
You can get a private coloscopy. You can also get
a private screening test by screening test igens. Do them,
mercy screening, do them. It's not super cheap. It's probably
about one hundred and fifty one hundred and eighty bucks
to do that if you're want a test, But you
can certainly do that. And you can also get a

(01:44:49):
colonoscopy privately if you want to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Yeah, right, great. Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is
the number to call. Ray, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 31 (01:44:57):
Hi, guys, I was wanting just to share my experience
with getting colonoscoy So it's people who know me and
KNOWMI well I've got no shame, so I'll just tell
you how it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
Was, please.

Speaker 31 (01:45:08):
One of one of one of my friends was diagnosed
with cell cancer probably three years ago. Luckily, he went
through treatment and that has been really good and come
to a positive conclusion. He went out to all his
guy mates and just said, look, if you are over forty,
you should really consider getting a colonoscopy. The reason I

(01:45:31):
went and talked to a doctor is because I was
noticing a little bit of blood in my still. As
it turns out, there was probably around a internal hemorrhoid
not related to bell cancer. But when I talked to
the doctor about it and I talked about my concerns
because I've got family history of bell cancer as well,

(01:45:51):
he referred me on to get a colonoscopy. He asked me,
do you have private health insurance? I said no, I don't,
so he referred me through the public system, but I
got treated at a private center in the white time
was about a month. It was really really quick. Leading
up to the colonoscopy. You need to fast for a
short period of time.

Speaker 20 (01:46:11):
Then you need to drink.

Speaker 31 (01:46:13):
A liquid, which I guess you'd say is like a
laxative to clear everything out of your vowels. Then when
I went to have the kolonosophy, they sedate you with
some sentanyl. I was very clear that I didn't want
to be knocked out. And I guess a lot of people,
probably guys, are concerned about a doctor shoving a tube

(01:46:36):
up their bottom. But let will tell you, when they
have put fental sentinel into your system, you will not
be worried about that won't be scary, and you thankfully
sarious and you'll be completely right. So after this process,
they clipped out three or four polyups. Now pullups are

(01:46:57):
what can over time grow inform into a cancers cancers growth.
And when they clip those out off your coll on,
I guess they send them away for a biopsy. They
came back clear, there's no problems for me, and I
will go back and have another coloscopy. And I think

(01:47:18):
I think I said like three, four, five years. I
can't remember. I talked to the doctor recently and I said, yep,
we've we've got you on our radar and we'll let
you know when it's happening. So I guess my thoughts are,
if you are a man, who's if you're anyone, if
you're anyone over about age forty and you've got any
concerns about why you might be the higher risk of
belt cancer. Maybe there is blood on the toilet paper,

(01:47:41):
maybe the family history, maybe you just not maybe you're
just not feeling like, you know, there's been a change
in the pattern of your normal pulling. Go and talk
to a doctor. And I couldn't more highly recommend it.
And as I said, if you're worried about a guy
sicking a tube up your bottom, the fenseel I give

(01:48:02):
you to well will really help to alleviate that concern
of yours.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
The fantastic nothing to be, nothing to fear.

Speaker 30 (01:48:11):
Yeah, I feel like I need to move over join
a job.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
Just just on what Ray was saying, I mean, is
that generally I mentioned that is quite a barrier for
some menners. They are concerned about their process, right, they
might have heard or you know, joked around with their
mates about what happens, and there's that fear or embarrassment
about going in. Do you find that as a barrier
for particularly younger guys.

Speaker 30 (01:48:34):
I think it certainly anecdotally it can be. I think
more more commonly, though, what people do is they get
a symptom and they put it they think it's probably
something else. So you know, I'm feeling timeless and maybe
I'm just long again of sleep or oh you know,
I've I've changed my boy a habit of Well, that's
probably just something else. So maybe I'm stressed. So what
people do is they kind of ascribe it to something

(01:48:54):
else rather than do the do the smart thing and
just get checked out. Yeah, you know, We've got a
symptom checker on our website actually, and sometimes that can
be helpful because when you go and click and have
a little look, you think, oh, I've got this thing,
and then you oh, no, I've actually got this other thing.
And that's that's that's common. So so certainly that was
my experience. I ended up working for this organization because
I had some concerns checked it out and then I

(01:49:17):
got some great advice from the people at Park Custant
you Seeland Victoria Support Nurse.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
So I was paying.

Speaker 30 (01:49:23):
I was a customer, if you like, at this service,
and then I ended up I've ended up working for it,
but it is it is. It's definitely for something to
get checked out. There's no need to be waiting being
anxious about it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
This text is that I know the camera is small,
but what about the tripod? How big? Is that it's
a misunderstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
Yeah, not quite that situation. Thankfully for a lot of people. Theresa,
how are you, I'm good, Thank you. Peter is standing
by for your question.

Speaker 25 (01:49:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 23 (01:49:50):
I just wandered I've often noticed in just like the
previous caller said that people often think when they see
some blood, they'll put it down to being hemorrhoids, And
I just wondered, is there a difference in the way
blood shows up of hemorrhoids dissers? Are they all cancer?

Speaker 13 (01:50:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Thanks for your question.

Speaker 30 (01:50:13):
I'm meant to preface this by saying I've worked in
the health service, but I'm not a medical doctor. So
but I guess the key thing I would say is,
you know, I'm not sure that you me, and and
and and Joe public are always the best at, you know,
discerning one thing from another in that way. So I
think the thing is if you've if you're having some blood,
the best thing to do get checked out, you know,

(01:50:35):
and you have a chat with your GP. And there
are going to be some changes in the way we
manage about our cancer in New Zealand coming up in
the in the in the coming months. That will mean
that that that that very simple at home test you
can do will be something that your GP should be
able to make available for you in the future. So
there'll be some there are already some good options and
and and ultimately, if they're not sure, they'll send you

(01:50:56):
for investigation. And that's probably the best way to best
way to be sure. Better safe than sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
All the best.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
What's the saying that there's no point in dying of embarrassment? Yeah, absolutely,
just just go and get it checked out.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
I mean, good call, just just very good call.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Because there's no threshold, really is there. So if you're worried,
then go and see a doctor.

Speaker 11 (01:51:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Question here if I text his Hi, Peter, fantastic work
you guys do. How much does that affect the Bell
cancer risk?

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
Great? Great question.

Speaker 30 (01:51:28):
Look, there are there are five big risks that you
five big things you can do to reduce your risk,
and eating better is definitely one of those. So having
enough milk and calcium, having more fiber, so hupping those things,
less meat, less processed meat, sadly is definitely one of
those things. The other things that kind of you cut
down on the alcohol, try and get your weight healthy,

(01:51:50):
stop smoking, be active. They're they're they're the key things.
But certainly better eating is up there. It's one of
the big five.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Aftern and I had a colonoscopy a year, there's quite
a regime getting ready three leaders of liquid and a
whole bunch of other stuff. I decided to do it
without a sedative. Whether I'm dumb or not. Yeah, I
highly recommend guys get one, but I would seduce taking
this editor you'd agree with that, Peter, Well, I took
this out of tip when I had one, and yeah,
I can, I can agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
Yeah, fantastic, Peter, really great to have you on. It's
fantastic to get that information out there. And if people
want a bit for a bit more information, what's the
website they can go to.

Speaker 30 (01:52:27):
Just google bar const in New Zealand and you'll got it.
It's bar Conster endzad the all donzad.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
Yeap brilliant And if you want to donate very quickly,
text lou to three seven seven nine. That's lo to
three seven seven nine and you'll make an instant three
dollar donation.

Speaker 22 (01:52:43):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
And just a reminder Day in lou tomorrow on Radio
HODIKEI a twelve hour live broadcast. Peter, You'll be heading
down to say get out of the guys, absolute will Yep.
It's a fantastic day and raising money for a fantastic charity.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
I'll be there from seven to am.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Love it yep. Fantastic Peter, nice to see you. We'll
catch up again soon.

Speaker 30 (01:52:59):
Wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
That is the CEO of Boalcanson, New Zealand, Peter Huskinson.
It is eight minutes to four back for you shortly.

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Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Sedby five to four.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
Are probably not going to be able to get through
SISS text. But my dad died of bell cancer when
I was twenty five. Since then, I've had colonoscopies every
three years polyps remove each time. I would have had
about twelve to fifteen of them to date. I heartily
recommend them. If I hadn't been checked, I would be
dead now. So yeah, it's a serious, serious issue anyway.
Thank you so much all your great New Zealanders for

(01:54:11):
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