Full Show Podcast: 18 October 2024

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for Friday 18th October, how do we encourage our best and brightest to stay in New Zealand at a time when we really need them.

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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hello and welcome all your great New Zealanders to the
Friday edition of Matt and Tyler Afternoons the podcast. We
had a great show, and say, we've known this for
two weeks and it was that best show today, What
a show. Finally got into cobblers and actually didn't expect
that today, but we did talk about shoes and cobbling
for quite a bit of time.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, a lot of cobbler chat, which I'm here for.
You know, I didn't expect to be talking about cobblers,
but people love a cobbler.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
We got told off for playing too many tunes because
this is talk radio, not music radio.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah about how good with tunes? Though they were great work.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Until you hear the tunes and the topical tune at
the end of it. And I can't remember what we
talked about at the start of the show. That'll be
right next, So what does it matter?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was about the brain drain and
it was it was great check. It was a good
facts from you though, good facts from you.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, good facts is actually a fact later on the
show that I got bored mid telling of the fact,
and I think we lost a caller while I was
telling it. I can't remember what it was about, but
awkleyd FC.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Actually there was some great chat about Auckland FC.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, So here it is. This is the Friday edition
of the matt and Tyler podcasts. Give them a taste
a Kiwi.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You're a new home for insateful and entertaining talk. It's
Mattie and Tyler Adams afternoons on Youth Talk.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
Zebby.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Welcome into the show. Yes, Matton Tyler with you until
four pm. And we are happy today because it is Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, that's right, Tyler. And when we started the show,
you says to me, you says, you say as you says,
he says, he says, he says, Look, it'll be one day.
We'll get through that day. Then it'll be two days,
and before you know it, Maddie, before you know it'll
be two weeks, and then it'll be two months, and
it'll be two years hopefully.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
And was I wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I was telling myself that as well to be fair.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
But I've had a great, fantastic time it's been will
Win two weeks. It has been a will win two
weeks and there's been a lot of topics, a lot
of great callers, a lot of good times. But it
does feel like it's been the lifetime as well. Can't
remember what I did before this.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, right on to the show after three o'clock bow
and three o'clock is you know the good hour of
the last hour of the hour of power, the party hour. Yeah,
and we've got some well the big segments of the week.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, that's right. We announced the Matt and Tyler Zibi
Afternoons new Zealander of the week. So many newsmakers this week,
but they can only be one new Zealander of the week.
Who will it be? Find out after three Also, Tyler
our topical tune, we go head to hear you and
I with great songs. Well, I play great songs on

(02:46):
topics we've been discussing this week, and we'll take five
callers out looking for them to ring up and vote
for my song.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
And you've got an apology to make it some stage too.
One of our lovely regulars who you treated poorly, Georgie.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
She rang and then she voted for you, and I
got emotional and I said some unkind words.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
You lost your way a little.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
She's a great New Zealand and I promised this week
that I'll keep my call even when people vote for you. Tyler.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
That's a Matte Heath promise.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
That's that's a promise. I've growing.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I've grown since last guarantee as a person. And after
two o'clock a lot of discussion about teamer. You know
the site you can buy a lot of cheap tats
and there's cheap tat. Well maybe some of it's good.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's all rubbish.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
But the question you're going to put out there is
do we need to stop buying rubbish and actually just
invest in quality products? And as you pointed out in
the break, maybe New Zealand goods would be, you know,
a good thing to support.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a false economy buying rubbish. I bought a hammer
the other day. I was in a hurry to buy
a hammer. I looked at the good ones and I
bought the cheapest one. It was bang bang head came off.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
How much did you pay for the hammer?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Eighteen nineteen year five hammer?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
At least fifty bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I've actually got a hammer that was handed down from
a grandfather, that was at my other house. That that
is still going strong. It's a beautiful, beautiful hammer, and
that's the point that a great hammer will go for
as generation a cheap hammer, you might as well throw
it in the bin as you leave the store.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, you get two hits out of it and then
it breaks. But right now, let's have a chat about
what has been called our new brain drain. So keeping
young New Zealanders in the country or encouraging them back
when they leave, will be vital to help the country
balance the books in the future, according to economists. So
the Portuguese government they are cutting taxes for people under
thirty five to encourage locals to stay and young migrants

(04:34):
to move to the country. It is one of many
countries around the world facing an older population becoming more
expensive while at the same time the working age population
paying the bills grows smaller. So it was an issue
highlighted by Dominic Stevens, he's chief economic advisor at Treasury.
He pointed out that in the nineteen sixties there were
seven people age fifteen to sixty four for every person

(04:56):
age sixty five and over. Now there are four, and
in fifty years there will be two.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
WHOA, So, what can we do to keep our young
people here in New Zealand? Are you worried about your
kids going overseas and not coming back. I've got an
eighteen year old son finishing school. He's taking a gap
year next year. I don't want him to go away
and not come back. I want him to live here
with me. Will not necessarily physically in the same house,
but I want him to have kids here and grow

(05:23):
up here, and I want to be a part of
his life. You know, do you have kids or friends
overseas that you want to come back? What can we
do to keep our young kids here? Can we our
young people here? What can we offer them? I don't
think tax cuts will do it. I think it's opportunities.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two nine two is the text number just on
your boy, Charlie. Is there genuine fear that there? Because
it's often be the case that at eighteen you have
a bit of a gap year. You might do university
and then you've got a year to go and travel
and do those fun things when you're a bit younger,
do you genuinely fear that he might do that and
stay in London or Melbourne or another part of Europe

(06:00):
because he's getting paid much better.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, you know, if you love someone, you've got to
let them, let them free. This is a second time
i've that's I think this week. If you love someone,
let them free and if they come back again. It
was meant to be something like that. I don't know.
So you wouldn't want to lock your kids down. And
I don't think it's bad to have an oe. I
think it's great to see the world, but you definitely
want them to come back and raise their families here
and be productive members of our society. So yeah, what

(06:25):
can we do. We've got beautiful beaches, we do got
beautiful clean air.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, I genuinely love the great people love this country,
you know, and yes we've got some issues here, but
I genuinely think, and I think a lot of people
feel this way, that New Zealand is a great country
and we can be better, but it's always been a
beautiful country. Just in my own situation. Well, it's more
Mave's family. So Mayve has three sisters who are all
under the actually ones just over thirty now, but all

(06:52):
young women, right ones in Melbourne. Another one was living
in South Korea. She's back in Wellington but she wants
to go to Melbourne now and the other one is
traveling around in Europe. So that is a real concern
for her mum in particular, but also the dad that
they started to look at having families now having children,
those children will be born in another country. That's a

(07:13):
big thing for them.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
And I've got a little sister that I love dearly,
and she upsticks when she was about nineteen overseas and
she still lives over there and lives in London. Never
came back, met a nice British lad and that's her
life over there. I only see her every few years.
So I don't like that. No, I like that.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty What do we
do about this? If anything? It is twelve past one.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
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Speaker 4 (07:48):
Be good afternoon. So why Young Kiwi's leaving is a
big worry for the New Zealand economy. It is the
next brain drain and it is worrying a lot of economists.
What do we do to keep younger people here?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Welcome to sew Michelle. What can we do to fight
the brain drain? What have we got to offer?

Speaker 9 (08:08):
Just about to lose my daughter and who's theater nurse
and she's got three young children, Like she's taking my
grandchildren away? Who she works in the hospital. I won't
stay there just in case she gets puplicates that she
was on five days a week, she was doing on
call and living fifteen minutes close to the hospital. Her

(08:31):
husband's a qualified builder in his own business, and we're losing.

Speaker 10 (08:35):
Both of those.

Speaker 9 (08:37):
But you know, like the child here, hospitals should be
offering the nurses. So do you have enough nurses in the hospital?
You know, cheap a child here, it should be attached
to our hospital. It's just too hard, you know, they
just can't see baking in.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's rough for you because if they set up a
whole whole life over there, then your grandchildren, your experience
with your grandchildren is gonna be very different.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
Oh look, I don't they stay every weekend with me.
We do everythink with them. I'm going to be cut
so badly. I don't know what to do.

Speaker 11 (09:15):
You have you had another daughter?

Speaker 9 (09:17):
No, sorry, you you've got another daughter. Yes, she's got
a one year old. She's a surgical nurse and she's
just about to have her second baby. Then the budget
came in, she was They was fined a contract and
gave her for four or five months, knowing that she
had that amount of time to work. As soon as

(09:37):
that new budget came in, she lost her contract. They
took it away from her. She's got no maternity leaves.
I'm supporting. She's living at my house. They've just brought
a home about a year ago and they have to
rent it out so the mortgage can be paid and
living with us.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Is it the financial stress that they're feeling here, Michelle, when,
as you say, they can go to the likes of
Perth not have that financial stress and actually have a
good life, even if they have to move away from
from yourself.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
Yeah, but we're contemplating selling up and going to be
genuinely though Perth.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
That is hard because if it was Melbourne or Sydney
you might be able to make it work. At three
and a half hours away. Perth is a lot further away.
That makes it incredibly tough.

Speaker 9 (10:28):
Yeah, they've actually got a best friend. That's actually it's
New Zealand Navy chefs and the husband or X Navy
and they are both over there now. So they've got
a little bit of hoult there as a you know,
guide of how to you know, where to go, what
to do. But I've got two sons and have friends

(10:48):
and two son amals are there builders and two nurses
and the New Zealand's losing them.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
So you're saying, Michelle that you're you're thinking about potentially
moving over to Perth.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
Not straight away. We're a bit nervous about spiders and
snakes and.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yep, you need to go a dangerous country Australia.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
You need to go and fight those sharks and crocodiles
and snakes, keep them off your grandkids.

Speaker 9 (11:17):
Oh, don't say that.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, she's already feeling rough.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
No, Perth isn't too bad, we are. You're seven and
a half hour flight. I mean you could go up
there twice a year, couldn't you.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
I couldn't survive not seeing them for that.

Speaker 11 (11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
Yeah, it's just not enough. Ye, So come on, New
Zealand government, let's keep our nurses here and our shoulders.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
There was something. They're sorry, just jumping in there. Something
that the government used to do with nurses is that
for every year that they remained here working as a nurse,
they would take I believe it was a third off
their student loan. Would something like that help it all?
Or is that not enough?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Michelle?

Speaker 9 (11:59):
Oh no, well they yeah, no, that probably wouldn't help.
I would think that would be not a silly idea.
But I still go back to the childcare that our
as they want them to work the chark here basically
take the whole wage away. I remember, I remember I
used to text to pay it. We both wrote. My
husband and I are both of the full time. Yeah,

(12:22):
so I'm the sales reper. I'm home only home every
second week, and I love my job. I don't want
to yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Oh I feel for you, Michelle.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
It's stuff really tough. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It is twenty past one,
back very surely.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The my casking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Is the Greens have met again.

Speaker 12 (12:45):
Darling Tanner will be Walker jumped out of Parliament, which is,
by the way, was unanimous co leaders wild brookers with us.
Is it possible you were wrong on the law given
you've now used it and seen its benefits.

Speaker 13 (12:54):
Well, I'll beg firstssion to say that everybody should be
open to changing their minds when you can count it
with complexity or information.

Speaker 14 (13:01):
That's humanity.

Speaker 13 (13:02):
That's what evolution is supposed to look like.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
Mike, I feel really proud of the fact that one
hundred and eighty five dollargates, having had their own and
Deliberti's process, that all came.

Speaker 11 (13:10):
To this conclusion.

Speaker 15 (13:11):
It was a unanimous constansus.

Speaker 16 (13:13):
I think really demonstrates that we as a party in
moving toward together on this issue.

Speaker 12 (13:17):
Back Monday from six am the Mike Husking Breakfast with
Mayby's Real Estate News talk Z be good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
We are talking about the brain drain currently happening as
we speak, a lot of our young professionals. People we
need here, nurses, doctors, police officers jumping across the ditch
and elsewhere. What can we do to stop it? David?
How are you good?

Speaker 11 (13:39):
Afternoon? Merton Tyler?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
How are you very good? My friends? What do you
reckon about the brain drain?

Speaker 11 (13:45):
I'm going to called you, Taylor Tyler, do that.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
We've bought that to bear, David.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I haven't called it night. I haven't call him Taylor
for for three days.

Speaker 11 (13:56):
I think, yeah, yeah, you're going well, I'm just trying
to imagine you've got a home that night, and Kate
will have been fairly high. Right, you've had that Taylor
Swift woman on your mind.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yes? Good Now they said about the brain drain. What
do we do here?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
David?

Speaker 11 (14:14):
Okay, Right, look at the short term thing and a
long term solution, and the short term you can't do
a damn thing about it. You imagine a six foot
mob guys standing at a checkout counter. Where the hell
does think you're going? Mate?

Speaker 17 (14:31):
Go there?

Speaker 11 (14:32):
Look, in the long term, we can do a lot
of things. In my case, I went over twenty came
back at twenty six. After you get about twenty five
and life in your prefrontal cortex grows up and you
make proper decisions. I can see the sense in coming back.
But look, in the meantime, I this might sound a

(14:54):
bit flippant, but in the meantime, forget about it. Right
for two reasons. Number one, at percentage will come back
as I did, and I don't know what the sent
is going to be, twenty percent whatever, they will back
when they see the light. This country is superb, superb.
We have our problems that we have far few problems

(15:15):
in other countries. But look, finally, the main thing I
really wanted to say was that I've done some googling
as I was wating, and currently for the year to
June this year, eighty eight zero thousand kiwis left, Okay,
with a are we okay? Eighty thousand left, but two
hundred and thirty thousand migrants came in. That's three times

(15:39):
as many. Now, that's three to one. So of those
two hundred and thirty, it's to be a fear bet
to say that they're going to be good percentage of entrepreneurs,
people that are money, people with a lot of money,
people with energy, more energy than some of the Kiwis
that are leaving. So we sit back. We just do
what Chris Luxan is doing, get the thing back on
track and maybe maybe tweak the impregration criteria. I don't know,

(16:05):
but it's the net influx of of energy that we
need to that'll stop them.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, and I guess in terms of people coming back
with overseas. You've got to keep the country going well, yeah,
and it being a great place to bring up kids,
because that's often what happens. People go away, especially when
they move to the UK. They'll go, Okay, this has
been great, but now we've got kids, we want we
want to come back here. Although my little sister didn't

(16:35):
come back, she's still over there.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
And she loves she loves it over there.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
She's never she she's never coming back. I think it's
less likely to come back from Australia because they have
a lot of the great things that we have, such
as beautiful beaches.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
And that's the danger, right yere. Yeah, I've got a
lot of mates, trading mates who went over to Aussie
to make money. In the minds basically they were builders
and obviously the mines need builders over there, trades of
all sorts, and they thought they were going to make
some great coin. Then come back to New Zealand. They're
still over there. They love in life. They've got a
new life in Australia. Our new groups of friends still
catch up every now and again, but as them, yeah,

(17:09):
probably for the next twenty thirty years.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, that's right. Whenever you do catch up with them,
they go, it's so.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Come over, you paid heaps over here. Yeah, so how
are you good?

Speaker 18 (17:20):
Thank you? Okay. This thing of people going over away,
I think it's it's you know, got a lot bigger
because COVID put the plug in the bottle and the
jar is now open and they're exploding out of it,

(17:43):
having their oe that they couldn't have earlier. Our daughter
is in Melbourne. She went there fourteen years ago. She
won't be coming back. She's married in Australian she's in
health and safety and industry.

Speaker 9 (17:59):
She was earning.

Speaker 18 (18:00):
I was a teacher.

Speaker 19 (18:01):
I've recently retired.

Speaker 18 (18:04):
And she was learning more than my husband and I combined.
The other thing is the as a pensioner per se,
I get really annoyed because they keep saying, oh, well,
you know we've got to support the elderly. Well, we're

(18:26):
still taxpayers, and because we own an orchard and everything
else like that, we have to pay full rents. There's
a lot of things we pay tax on that doesn't
take into consideration our age.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, but I'd say that people aren't hassling the individual pensioners.
It's when the ratio of a society becomes too many people,
too many old people compared to young people. So you know,
you are contributing, but we still we need to still
need the right ratio to make things work.

Speaker 18 (19:01):
Yeah, well the ratio is going to alter because with
life now the elderly are living much much longer, which
is a great but and then our birth rates of lowered.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Considerably certainly have well just with that in mind, So
what Portugal are doing at the moment is they have
reduced the tax burden on younger people, people under thirty five.
Is that something we should be looking into or is
that a silly idea?

Speaker 18 (19:36):
Is they contributing because we have a lot of you know,
how many people in New Zealand are actually paying tax?
You know, we take it as a sort of one
hundred percent, but actually in the not everyone it's contributing tax.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, and we'll and we'll have less people contributing tax
if more people go overseas. How often do you get
to go and see your daughter in Melbourne.

Speaker 18 (20:03):
Sue, Well, we do a lot of FaceTime, yeah, with
our grandson especially. We actually, if we're going overseas, we
make sure we pass through or arrived back through Melbourne.
That's you know, all roads at the moment lead to

(20:26):
through him from where we can, so we might see
her two three times a year.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Well that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Would you move there, Sue? Would you think about would
you think about buying a place in Melbourne to be
closer to them?

Speaker 18 (20:42):
We have issued them with our pension.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah right, yeah, it's touff. Well, thank you so much
for your call, Sue. Now I've got I've got a
question for you. Nine two nine two Okay, Okay, which
New Zealand Prime minister made this brain draine joke? Okay,
here we go, we go. Kiwi's leaving for Australia raised
the IQ of both countries.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Okay, I know who this is. But if you think
you do, nine two nine two is the text number.
It's past one.

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Speaker 4 (22:31):
Thank you very much. Rayllan and we are talking about
how do we keep young New Zealanders in the country
or encourage them to come back. It will be vital
to help the country balance the books. In the future.
According to economists and Treasury port the Portuguese government, they
are cutting taxes for people under thirty five in a
bid to encourage locals to stay in young migrants to

(22:51):
move to Portugal. So a big question about what we
do to stop the brain drain or if you know
enough young professionals have already left on a setting up
shop of sure, how do we bring them back? Oh eight,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, And I asked the question which New Zealand Prime
minister made this joke Kiwi's leaving for Australia or the
raise the IQ of both countries. It wasn't David Longie.
There's a lot of people are texting in.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
No, it wasn't Winston. Peter's a few texts for Winnie.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yep, he's oh he has I guess he has been
acting prime minister, hasn't he has here? Yep, No, it
wasn't Winston. No votes for Jenny Shipley. It was as
a lot of people have texted in, Rob Maldoon, Oh,
Piggy Maldoon, that was his joke. Not a bad joke
from Rob Maldoon.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
You got to say he had some good lines, didn't he.
I'll tell you who else we're really keen to chat with.
If you are in your mid twenties or early thirties
and you are looking to move off shore or are
about to move off sure love to hear from you.
On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Why what is
the reason? Arslan? How are you yeah?

Speaker 15 (23:55):
Good?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Good?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
What's your take on young Kiwi's moving across to Ozzie
and elsewhere?

Speaker 8 (24:03):
No?

Speaker 21 (24:03):
I think the reason number one is in crisis. It's
like the biggest disadvantage living in New Zealand. It's like
everything is really good and I love the country, but
the property prices and the mortgage is just crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
As on you're looking at moving, I understand where you
think about moving to.

Speaker 21 (24:34):
Melbourne. Melbourne, yeah, and I have lots of like three
or four friends already moved there and they compare it
to New Zealand. They say, yeah, the property is also expensive,
but you earn but maybe two times more for the
same job that you earn in New Zealand, So it's

(24:56):
in comparison, it's just feels much cheaper.

Speaker 15 (24:59):
How old are you more affordable?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
How old are you Aswa thirty five. Right, so you're
bang in this age group that is leaving and droves.
And so even with the housing situation of Melbourne being
pretty similar to here that it's very expensive housing, that
you still would prefer Melbourne over New Zealand just in
terms of lifestyle, a lifestyle.

Speaker 21 (25:21):
And then higher salary is so for the professionals, the
gap between Australia and New Zealand is quite big. So
I went back on sites and I looked up how
much is my salary will be in Australia and it

(25:43):
is one point five two times higher. Then I didn't
want to get in in New Zealand and it's just
the price is there obviously higher than Chire, but not
two times.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, getting w salary that is fairly attractive. Thank you
Asla text here. Then we'll get back to the phones. Kiday, guys,
the quote about Muldoom was one of his best lines ever.
This one here says, well, the six hundred people who
just lost their job at Alliance seem to already be

(26:23):
on their way to Ozzie. Oh yeah, Matt's what's your
thoughts on this.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
One, hey, guys?

Speaker 17 (26:30):
Well, of course people migrate, immigrate, for different reasons, but
it's fundamentally financial gain, isn't it So to me that
means the first thing you have to do is get
the old economy cranking, and that means removing roadbox. It
probably also means trying to reduce the corporate tax rate.
Get some big corporates over here, employ a good one thousand,

(26:53):
two thousand and three thousand each company. We did have
a rockstar economy once.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
And remember that good times. Yeah, lots happened since then.

Speaker 17 (27:07):
I mean, we know it's psychical. The only thing that
can me is and I know that on in my fifties,
I haven't got that much life to afford to have.
And I'll say it left leaning governments that come in
and just hold the country back. It's like water skiing
with a big bloody I don't know, something dragging behind you.

(27:28):
That's what's been happening to news in more recent times.
And you know, if you've got a more right wing
or central wing government and for a term or two
terms max and it all gets done undone very quickly.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Did you spend any time overseas when you were younger?

Speaker 17 (27:48):
I did. I spent a bit of time in Australia,
a little bit of time traveling around Africa and Europe,
and there's no two ways about it. We stack up
when it comes to a great place to live. But
you know, also got to say I can do the
same job and get paid one and a half times
more and a half thousand away whatever, and why wouldn't you?

(28:12):
And they're not as diverse, sorry diverse, I say, divisit
over there?

Speaker 8 (28:16):
They have?

Speaker 17 (28:17):
That's a big issue. I know a lot of mates
leaving and they're just sick of the politics in this country.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
What brought you back to New Zealand, matt.

Speaker 20 (28:26):
On.

Speaker 17 (28:26):
In my case, I was always intending to come back. Family,
of course, But you know, as your parents get older
or they're not around, the things holding you back are
no longer there.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, I mean it is, it is. The reality is
it's just going to take time, isn't it, matt If
we do get the economy humming and to try and
increase those wages, and I've got to you know, you've
got to bring these things to a personal side of things.
And then I mentioned before made sisters and two of
them are teachers, very good teachers and very clever women.
And it sucks that they've now gone to They started

(29:02):
off in London and now they are looking to set
up shop in Melbourne, primarily because the conditions are better
and the wages are far higher.

Speaker 17 (29:10):
Yep, yep, And you're a little bit closer to the
rest of the world, aren't you. There's ah, it costs
that much more to go another three hours, you know,
south and to get nought again. You know, there's there's
a few things that go against us living down here,
but there's certainly plenty of positives. But we just have
the right governance to get that flowing. That's that's my

(29:33):
take on it.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Thanks so much you call, Matt. Yeah, I mean you
do want people that can go overseas to go and
see the world. Yeah, of course you want to go
and then come back. I mean, the OE is a
very very great thing for for your for your mind.
And sometimes when you've been in an OE or you've
been overseas, you will come back and there'll be things
about New Zealand that you that you really really appreciate.
I mean, I know, when I was living in London,

(29:55):
I felt like I was fighting against the city every day.
And when you come back from living over there for
a while. It can feel easier.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
In some ways to slower pace of life in New Zealand.
It does feel when you come back from Indian But
just in terms of the ages, you know, early twenties,
when you get out of university, say you're twenty two,
twenty three, twenty four, get that. You go and do
experience life and other places around the world, and you
might earn some good coin, but you have some fun

(30:23):
doing it. But now we're seeing people in their thirties,
so they've trained here. They are quite often highly trained professionals.
Now looking across the ditch and say I'm thirty, I
want a house, i want to have a good life.
I'm not getting paid enough in New Zealand, so I'm
buggering off. That's a bad situation.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
The perfect situation is you go over there, let's say,
to the UK. You meet a nice Irish lass yep
and I'm just picking Irish, got a thing for the Irish,
and you bring it back here because she thinks, she
thinks that what we've got here is phenomenal. You bring
it back here, you break her parents heart at hearts
and you bring up some kids here. That's the perfect scenario.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
That is hitting the Jackpott inm Life. Oh eight ae
undred eighty ten eighty really keen to hear from you
on this one. It is the two.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
It's done.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
You take on talk Bag Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.
Have your say on eight hundred eighty News Talks Kerry
Good Afternoon.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (31:23):
Yeah, I'm lucky that I had the experience of leaving
to go to work in Sydney when I was about
twenty two, came home in early thirties and I just
loved living over there because I think it's a lovely spot. Yeah,
Sydney was my choice because I lived in opposite the
Opera house in McMahon's Point, Loose Point Road and a

(31:46):
neutral bay. I bought a unit and in Cremorn's.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
There's loving men. I mean, what would those properties be
worth now? Carry millions?

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (31:57):
I worked that unit wasn't worth much when I saw it.
But and then we used to have combedy campus, me
and my best friend with the pop tops and we
would go up north and free free camp and stuff.
So that I think the excitement of Australia, either it's
Queensland or never been to Perth. But it is good,
I think young people. My daughter has just been right
around Europe, just climbed Everest, just come down two days ago.

(32:21):
She wants to go and live in Sydney. She goes
to the top of Everest, well only the base camp.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
It's still impressive.

Speaker 23 (32:31):
Were you worried?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Were you worried hearing?

Speaker 22 (32:35):
I'm not really, not really but none with a group
of people and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
But she's sing the world at the moment. But do
you expect her to come home?

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Well, she will.

Speaker 22 (32:44):
She's going to Melbourne the set friend and he's coming
back here in about a week's time. No, she wants
to go to she keeps talking, said he because you
know that's where your dad went to work. And I'd
rather certainly the Melbourne because she loves the beaches and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
So are you going to do anything to try And
I mean, that's a terrible thing to say as a parent,
but you know, I've got an orgainating year son and
I prefer he stayed here and his kids grew up here.
But would you do anything to convince her to stay?

Speaker 8 (33:16):
Not?

Speaker 24 (33:16):
Not?

Speaker 22 (33:17):
Now she's just turned twenty eight. You know, I got
a big promotion at twenty seven to another big job
running the operation in Sydney, and I'm thinking that was
young men. But you know, and I came back. I
was about thirty three. So no, she has to do
it together.

Speaker 24 (33:33):
You know.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
It's like it's like.

Speaker 22 (33:34):
A bucket list. I think, you know. But my hope
is that these keywiks, most of them come back.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
She has, she got a partner, carry of they got
a chip.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
Who sorr?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Who your daughter is? She got a partner long term?

Speaker 22 (33:49):
No, no, no, no, she's been similar for a few years.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Do you worry about that though? Do you worry about
when you become a grandparent potentially that she will not
be here in New Zealand.

Speaker 22 (34:00):
I know, I'll tell her. I'm pretty straight with her.
I've said things like Mary and all back and things
like that.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, you're a wise man.

Speaker 22 (34:06):
It's not being that I don't want. I wouldn't like
it about an all black, but yeah, that's really she
knows how I think. And our family is very very close,
and my wife's family is very very close, and I
think family and support is very very good. And I
just tell you one point there, so in that period
was a way for that ninety ten years I came back.
My mum was about seventy five, and I felt I

(34:31):
was the youngest of six kids. I thought, I'm just
a naughty I took myself at a month's life, maybe
once a year's to come across the business. She lives
out of work, and I'd get there and said, mother,
lawns what you are saying? Hi, I see you later
because you don't think like that.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
You don't when you're young. But and that's the thing.
You can never your kids can never quite love you
as much as you love them, and they've got to
go out and do their thing in the world. You
just want them to come back.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, well squeeze Colin in before the break,
get a column.

Speaker 25 (35:05):
Areat Yeah, I don't know about break. But I've moved overhead.
I was for work. I can earn paying more than
I could have New zeal And. I had a business.
We have a free whole property. My wife's stayed there.
I'm over here working. I drive f doubles the beginnings

(35:26):
out Brisbane to come back three times a week and
I'm pocketing one week. I've bucket over two thousand plus
the superannuation and on the long week, I'm pumping about
three thousand, couldn't come any close to that. So you know,
it's just you know, the money side of it, health insurance.
I pay six hundred bucks a months back in New

(35:48):
Zealand for Southern Cross the saying the health insurance over here,
but it was way more benefits three hundred and thirty.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Dollars and just quickly colin what the souper I know
is very generous. It's about nine percent of wages. Is
that right that the employer matches.

Speaker 25 (36:03):
Yeah, they met, they put it in and you know,
it just goes in and that sort of stuff. And
I can seventy I'm over here as a seven year
old and can response to that. Lady is talking about
his super. There's no problem with the Super. You can
be here for six months, but if you're going to
stay here long, you have to let the winds over there, know,
and then they'll work it out with Australia and you

(36:24):
end up getting a combination of Australia and New Zealand
Super combined.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call. And now
I'm just a little bit worried that we're doing the
exact opposite of what we intended to do in this hour,
which was try and look for reasons to in ways
to keep people here.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
And all we're doing is we're just promoting that good
life in Australia.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
We're talking about how great it is over in Australia.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
So what do we do to keep them here? Let's
bring it back? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty, should
we get some tickets? Mat got to Aussie back in
the mark.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Then I'm out.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Matt heat Taylor Adams seeking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty Math and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks'd.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Be news talks, he'd be Curtis, you're a young man
and you're about to hit overseas.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
How come, Curtis, what's making you leave?

Speaker 26 (37:09):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (37:09):
I feel like I've just outgrown New Zealand at this
point in my life. I've I've done a lot of
cool things, and I know I've never left the country.
I'm a bit of a hobbit, yep, But yeah, I'm
going to go over and lit a bit of well
drilling and yeah, I just pursuing my career a little
bit more and have a lot.

Speaker 17 (37:30):
Of fun along the way.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
So you're moving to Australia.

Speaker 15 (37:34):
I'm moving to Norway.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Wow, So what what excited about Norway? How did NOI
get on your radar? Curtis?

Speaker 27 (37:43):
Norway?

Speaker 15 (37:44):
Just it's cold. I'm a snowboarder, snow foineteen years and
yeah I've never really got overseas and snowboarded.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
You got a partner, Curtis, single, single and Norway it sounds.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Like good times to some beautiful people, a good rocky nation.

Speaker 15 (38:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's really cool saying like, well, drilling
here is a very niche sort of market, but going
over there and looking on their websites and stuff and
there's there's so many well drilling opportunities over there. So
hopefully learn some skills and bring it back to New
Zealand and yeah, really try try better my skills.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Do you know anyone in Norway at all? Or are
you just going to land and start and forge your
life on your own?

Speaker 20 (38:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (38:36):
Pretty much. I'm leaving everything behind, all my social media's
and stuff and just really want to start living how
I want to do and when I come back, just
apply that to New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Well I love that, Curtis, because what you're going over there,
and this is this is something that we can't We
don't have a problem with people going overseas, getting experiences,
betting themselves, bettering themselves and bringing that knowledge and experience
back back to New Zealand. So good on you and
all the best for Norway. Yeah, go well, I think
about Norway a lot. I think about I do for

(39:07):
some reason, Norways. It will be on my radia.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
People say Norway, then I get excited. I don't think
about it too much until someone says Norway.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
I thought.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think about Northern Europe a lot.

Speaker 8 (39:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, And so how much you're going to get paid there? Curse?
Do you know roughly what the salary is for a
what was the position? Again? You're going to be working
in the the oil fields?

Speaker 15 (39:26):
Well drilling.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Oh that's good money, isn't it. There must be good money.

Speaker 15 (39:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's not too bad. I think rough conversion.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I think that.

Speaker 15 (39:33):
Average wage in Norway is about maybe two thy two
hundred ended, but payof broby on the lower scale of that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, And you can and also you can have you
can have whale for dinner and no one will look
at you funny.

Speaker 15 (39:48):
Yeah, it's very much like New Zealand because they have
like a forty percent tax. Yeah, so and all your
healthcare and stuffs kind of will include in that.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Well, make go hard and when you get set up
and have a nice place in Norway, we'll come and
visit you. That sounds bloody if it will go snowboarding,
eat some whale. Good times. Eight is a number to
call news topic on the table. We're gonna chat about TEAMU.
It is three minutes to two.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons New for twenty twenty
four News Talk Zibby.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Good afternoon, Welcome back into the show Friday. Always feel
good on a Friday, don't we met?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Certainly d I'm very excited about announcing Matt and Tyler
Zibi Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
So many I don't even know who it is, folks.
I mean, I've seen the nominations, but we're not going
to give those away. But this is exciting for me.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Also, Yeah, we bestow it on someone every week in
New Zealander that's had an outsized effect on the news.
It's like the Yeah, Time magazine us a person of
the year though. Yeah, they don't always have to be
an agent of good.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
It could be controversial. In fact, it's often contraversed.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
It could be a terrible person. Thanks just the person
that has made the biggest effect on the news this week.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
That's after three o'clock. But right now a lot of
people talking about Temu. The latest in Teamu is there's
some concern about the ultra fast fashion. So this was
on the back of a report by Tearfun New Zealand.
They found as many as one in four people may
have purchased from Timu in the past three months. It
also found as many as fourteen kiwis may have recently

(41:22):
purchased from Sheen, another similar online outfit outfit. They are
renowned for their super low prices TMU. These online retailers
advertised clothing and other items for as low as six
bucks and even lower for other items. So in June,
New Zealand Posts Market Sentiment report for e commerce said
Timu was now rated by seventeen percent of New Zealanders

(41:45):
as the online retailer they.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Use the most.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Seventeen percent of Kiwis Disgusting use Temu more than anything else.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Disgusting Tu Simu. I hate Temu, Yeah, I hate it.
I hate when you when you google something for a
product you're looking to buy and it just goes a
row of Temu. I refuse to buy buy from Timu.
In fact, I'm moving in my life to not buying
any crap at all, and I want to encourage other people.
It's a false economy buying rubbish products. I just moved

(42:15):
house recently and we filled a skip. I was disgusted
with myself and I was disgusted with my children with
how much absolute rubbish that we had had bought. And
I want to become a person now that buys quality
and supports brands that make good stuff. And people say,

(42:36):
well I can't afford that, Well, you can't actually afford
to buy a rubbish So I bought a hammer the
other day. It was banged and the head came off.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
And how much did you pay for that hammer?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Eighteen ninety five?

Speaker 4 (42:45):
There's a cheap hammer. You know what you're going to
get from.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
It's just because I couldn't be bother driving together the
other side of town to pick up my toolbox with
a hammer that was handed down from a grandfather that
is still going You know, and that's the point. I
mean that hammer served him, served my father, and is
serving me that hammer. So that economy, if you look
about saving money, that's saving money that that hammer is

(43:09):
going to last, is lasting literally lasting generations. Whereas the
hammer that I bought for eighteen ninety five lasted one
and two hits lasted the second hit. I tea something
that I bought that was on the cheapest. In fact,
it was the cheapest law mower that was in the
shop at the time, and I thought a law moller
was a law moyer, you know, as long as it
cuts the grass, what do I care? And it was

(43:30):
sixty bucks. But the problem is this was a law
mower that you have to plug in, so you know,
and I should have thought about this, but running out
the extension cable every time I had to mow the lawn,
and then if you want nice lines, there was that
risk of just running over the extension cable every time.
So I only used it once. I thought, what a numskull?
What did I think about that?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
But not only that, then I got a line trimmer
that was a plug in as well, same deal.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
I just don't learn get yourself a secondhand mess port mate, I.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Should have bet I've got to steal now still moer
yeah electric Yeah, no cord though, but beautiful great moa right.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
And how much do you pay for that?

Speaker 14 (44:06):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
That was about three hundred okay, but quality.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I paid for quality rather than the eighty dollar law
more that you had the plug in and it was
the cheap job. Yeah, I paid for that mistake.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah. Well, I think we should support good brands. I
think we should support good New Zealand brands if we
can find find a New Zealand thing. And I think
we should support companies that at least have offices in
New Zealand, shops in New Zealand. I mean, the thing
with Timo is you're really gambling. You're going overseas, you're
buying something it looks like it. It comes back and
it's an imitation of the thing, and it breaks, and

(44:38):
that's that's that's bad for everyone. It doesn't help you,
it doesn't help the New Zealand economy, and it's just
piles and piles of junk. You should order Temo and
give your address as the refuse transfer center and get
it delivered straight there and cut out the middleman.

Speaker 8 (44:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Well, you mentioned the dump shame, and of course I
moved up to Auckland, so we had our own dump shame.
And it's real when you're sitting there and you're chucking
all these things into the hole in the ground and I'm,
you know, kind of looking left and right saying is
anybody watching me here? And there was an a up
actually a lovely elderly couple. But as I was pushing
this couch into the hole, and they said, that's a shame,
isn't it?

Speaker 25 (45:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
It what do you want me to do?

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I got it off, Tim.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I'll tell you. There's the Refuse Trends for Center Concourse
in Henderson now that has a dump shop like a shop.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
There, the Eco Store, great store.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
You go there and you can buy good stuff there.
You do your shopping at the dump. It's better to
do your shopping at the dump than it is to
do it on Tim.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Well, because I had to make so many trips to
the dumb but I acual found out that someone had
pulled that couch out of the whole, obviously one of
the dumb workers, and he said, that's a fine couch.
We're going to put that at the Eco store. So
some poor Bugo. I had to go on the hole
and drag it out anyway. Keen to hear from you
on this O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. What
is our obsession? We're buying off team We get it.
It's cheap, But to your point, Matt, we got to

(45:54):
go quality because cheap stuff breaks down. What's the point,
It's just.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
It's a false economy. Buy good stuff and support good brands.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Get on the phone. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
it's twelve past two.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
You're new home of Afternoon Talk and even Taylor Adams
Afternoon Call eight hundred eighty News talk Z.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
It is a quarter past to being good afternoon to you.

Speaker 15 (46:19):
There you go, guys. Yeah, I'll probably spend about two
or three thousand bucks on TEAMO this year. There's quite
a quite a lot of the products of both sort
of on par at the warehouse and Jacow super cheap
and stuff, but there is a lot of crep on me.
You've got to be careful.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, And how much of your stuff that you've bought
on TIMU are you still using?

Speaker 15 (46:41):
Probably a good seventy percent of it was all right
and the other thirty percent I'd just say it's not
worth buying. You know, there's a lot of plastic, fantastic stuff,
but definitely, like I kound the security systems to our
volt systems for your care being, stuff like that on
par if not better than super cheap auto and a
third of the price.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
So yeah, So do you feel any obligation to buy
things from people have stores in New Zealand and at
least employ some New Zealanders.

Speaker 15 (47:13):
Well, if I want the items straight away, sure I'll
go to the stores. But if I'm willing away the
week or two, I'll grab them online. You know, cost
of imin rates are gone up. You know, you've got
to cut costs we can, and that's one of the costs.
I've just brought three T shirts for eight bucks each
on there that it's exactly the same T shirt as
one at the wee house, same photo on it, same everything,

(47:36):
and the warehouse wants thirty three bucks for them, and
they're eight bucks on team. The only thing I wouldn't
recommend buying TVU is footwear. I've brought a couple of
pizirs of shoes. Yeah, they're over, They're over within a month.
They sort of around quite correctly. So yeah, we're definitely
rebel sports for shoes.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I've actually started not buying check T shirts. I basically
only wear black T shirts, that's the only But I've
started spending eighty bucks on a T shirt. E eighty
bucks on a T shirt. They feel good, they feel
like a quality product. I feel better them. I look amazing.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
What have they made out of linen?

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Are they?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I know it's just one made out of It's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
It's like some sortredge cotton, maybe Marina.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
How good do I look?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
You look really good?

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Fits well and and I reckon this will last. This
will last ten times longer than an eight dollar T shirt.
And I I brought it from a respectable long time
New Zealand men's retailer store retailer, and I'm just gonna
buy from from from there now. You know, I've just
had I've got too many T shirts that you put

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them through the dryer once and they become they become
wider than they are long. And I've a lot of
those T shirts, and then my fat guts is hanging
out and my girlfriend loses interested in me. So it's
an investment. And eighty dollar T shirt I used.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
To be one of those guys that bought cheap shoes
and they were New Zealand shoes. It was a New
Zealand company. Wow, they've got franchises here, and about forty
bucks for a pair of shoes because I thought they're
just shoes. But then quickly realized, like old mate being
on the phone, that they you know, started to wear
it through the excel soul after about three months, So
it does buy quality. I'm starting to go on your side,
Matte car. What do you reckon? Mate?

Speaker 28 (49:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (49:24):
I just spent one hundred and fifty one hundred and
sixty bucks the other day, and then I went back
on line and says, oh, you're a winner. You know,
I spin this wheel and you get a percent one
hundred percent free cash back.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
You know that's how they Yeah, I've seen it before.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, So anyway, so I.

Speaker 27 (49:40):
Spin the wheel, you know, you spend it the first time,
it doesn't go to the cash pack as it always happens,
and then you spin it the second time it goes
to to one hundred percent cash back. So then so
I clicked on a couple of items, but two items
for one hundred bucks to make up one hundred dollars
and then tried to check out, but I couldn't check out.

(50:01):
Why was that because they want you to buy more?
I clicked on the checkout, I couldn't to get out.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah, it's I'm with your car. Actually that happened to
me is I haven't brought anything off tu but I
gave it a go and did the old winning wheel
and I thought, oh, this is nice. So instantly I'm
going to get some some good discounts here. And I
was trying to buy one of those saunas, like those
cheap saunas, you know, the things you know. It's kind

(50:29):
of like yeah, yeah, it's like an inflatable sauna that
you can set up. You can set up on your
deck and and.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
What heats it? No, it's powered so powered.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Yeah yeah, but you got to fill it up with
water and then it kind of turns it into steam.
So it's a steamer rather than an it's like a steamer.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Humiliating you're going to sit on your deck and that.

Speaker 8 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
I didn't say I was a smart guy, but anyway,
then I went to buy the thing and it said
I had one hundred percent off.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Dirty You go into a to a store in New Zealand.
You talk to it to a New Zealand, you have
an interaction. You talk to someone and you buy the
product and if it doesn't work, you return it. And
everything's nice and good and above board and no one's
trying to scam you.

Speaker 22 (51:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Good cool. It is twenty past two. Back of the monc.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Matt Heathen, Tayler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Good afternoon. We are talking about our fascination and love
of Tiamu. Get the seventeen percent of Kiwi's buy more
from Timu than anywhere else. That blows my mind, almost
twenty percent one in five kiwis.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
You're a bad person if you buy from Timu?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Well, Marie, Marie has bought a lot of things, evan
you Marie.

Speaker 13 (51:40):
Yes, I'm not a bad person.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
What kind of stuff you got?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
What kind of stuff you're buying from Timu?

Speaker 13 (51:48):
I bought a nice big shack Paul carpet, right nice? Yeah,
and three small, four smaller mats to go with them.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Marie, is your is your shag pole carpet of the
little of the little threads going everywhere? And you're having
to vacuum vacuum them up constantly.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yes, and that's good quality.

Speaker 29 (52:10):
That was.

Speaker 8 (52:12):
Less.

Speaker 13 (52:15):
That was a big one. I think was like two
hundred buy one hundred and sixty fix in our lounge
and it was thirty two dollars, not bad out. And
the four other ones were six dollars or seven dollars each.

Speaker 14 (52:33):
But you do you do?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
You do you look around? Do you do you feel
like you should if you could buy things from a
New Zealand retailer? Or do you do you find buying
buying stuff from Timo and having it shipped in and
you know all the potential ethical issues around tim I don't.

Speaker 13 (52:52):
I don't have any. I might be an odd one
and I don't have any issues at all.

Speaker 30 (52:57):
And the.

Speaker 13 (52:59):
Product that here was in five to seven days. We
bought footwear don't exactly what they said. My husband's got
a pair of like lofa.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You know how long has he been wearing those for?

Speaker 13 (53:13):
Or about three months? Four months, so he's probably.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Got he's probably got a couple of couple of days
left with those before his total.

Speaker 13 (53:24):
He does a lot of walking. We've bought heaps of stuff.
We bought clothing. You've just got to bear in mind
what size you're buying. And if you're buying and you think, oh,
that's my size, because you've got to remember the size
of Chinese size or whatever. But they show you what
Europe and UK and all that and you buy their

(53:48):
sizing to what would be here in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Makes makes sense.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Thank you so much, Murphy Cool.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I feel that would that would make me nervous though.
I mean trying to calculate the Chinese shoe size versus
New Zealand shoe size. And when you know there's a
lot of stores here. If cheap is your thing, you
can buy shoes steady bucks a pop.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I'll slightly walk back my my claim that people that
buy from TIM are bad people. I would say that
you're you might be a good people in the person
in the rest of your life. When you're buying from TIM,
you're being a bad person.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
A question for you, met if we're talking about bad
people here, I know you're certainly not a bad person.
You're a New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
I am a bad person.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
You've done some bad things, not a bad person. Have
you ever had to repair a piece of clothing?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I'm excited about cobblers. I want to get back into
taking shoes to cobblers. I bought a pair of Rim
William boots recently. Look what I'm wearing. Oh look, they're beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
They were a gift though, they were a gift on
pay for those.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I bought some recently in topour and and the woman
that sold me to them, she said, they're you're they're
your boots for life. She said, you're they're there for life.
And I thought that's good.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
I thought they were a have honestly, you know, paying
well five hundred bucks for a pair of boots at
the minimum, but they could boots, yes, quality good boots,
and you take them to a cobbler.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
If they got they got damage, would yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Well, if I could find a cobbler. So they're still existed.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
This cobblers. This cobbler is about the best of us,
the cobblers.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
If you're a cobbler, from a cobbler.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
And I'd love to hear from people that take their
shoes to get fixed.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Matt, how are you.

Speaker 8 (55:19):
Good man? Yeah?

Speaker 24 (55:19):
I think the biggest issue was the sort of perception
of value in the market. Now, Like I started a
brand a few years ago, and there's a lot of
cheap crap in our category. And it was one of
the main reasons I started the brand was to make
better stuff so people were relying on crap.

Speaker 8 (55:34):
And I think Timo and.

Speaker 22 (55:38):
How the Express has just made people expect things to
be cheap now.

Speaker 24 (55:41):
Regardless of quality.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
And can I ask what you what you produce, Matt.

Speaker 24 (55:46):
We make out door gear for coming to Key Outdoors.
We make our door gear for sort of adventures and stuff.
But do you say Kia comments on Facebook the other
day about a guy who said about one of our
products are saying, oh, you could just get off TMU
for five dollars.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Did you say that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
See, that's the thing I would say. If I'm adventuring
and I'm out and about and I'm depending on gear,
I'm not going to buy something from tim and the
then head off into the bush. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Yeah, did you say, Key? I just want to just
want to clarify that care Like the bird, I've seen
your products, they're good. I've seen up on Facebook. I
even bought you do ten.

Speaker 24 (56:20):
Now we do like after a kid, Yeah, the good. Yeah,
But like the guy who commented on the product, like
they think it's the same product is the big issue. Yeah, Yeah,
they think it's the same thing. Whereas we go through
months and then you felt like I spent a year
manufacturing and designing something and even though it has a
similar function, it's not the same. And they just don't
have a they don't have a version of quality anymore.

(56:42):
They just expect everything to be cheap, regardless of the quality.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I think it's an obligation if you can to buy
stuff off New Zealand producers. If there's a New Zealand
product that's being made and it's good, good quality, I
think you're a better person if you buy it buy
it in New Zealand, then if you buy it overseas.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
But you said it before and I absolutely agree, just
and with Matt's product. There are some products I would
never buy on the likes of Team and certainly a
first aid kit or if I'm in the bush and
I get into trouble and I need some survival gear,
there's no way and here combining that off demu.

Speaker 24 (57:16):
Yeah, and even worse you did. These companies Team and
Stuff don't pay the GST, so we compete paying GST
to the government to pay taxes and they import don't
have to pay GUSD because it's all under the import
threshold of hundred dollars. So it's not a fair playing
field at all. But I don't think it'll ever go back,
like once it's done, it's done. I think it's people
just have to eventually look at the other side of

(57:38):
things and support New Zealand rather than supporting a foreign
country that doesn't have our interest at heart.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, I mean, and when do you learn that? That's
the thing? So how many times you buy something that's
rubbish before you invest in something something good? I mean,
is it a thousand times? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Is that a rhetorical question for me? Because I still
do it. I still go cheap and pay for it. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Thank you very much. Matt Kea Outdoors was the name
of the business and I have generally seen it. It
looks like great products and Kiwi products.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Well, I've bought a tent, a really good tent a
few years ago, Campus tent by New Zealand's tent manufacturer,
and it slipped my mind. But it had the name
of a New Zealand bird as well, CACPO something like that.
I'll look it up.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
We're going to try and find it.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I could not be more happy with the tent.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Very good. It is twenty nigh pas.

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Speaker 4 (59:43):
Thank you very much Forraileen twenty seven to three.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I was talking out a canvas tent I bought recently.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
He didn't say it was canvas.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
It was canvas.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
That's old school, and its old school.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
It looked like the tent I had when my parents
had when I was growing up. Nice it was the
Kakapor eight and it was from Kiwi Camping. So it
was a good New Zealand KII good New Zealand company,
fantastic quality. And broke a broken tent leg and then
emailed them and they sent me a replacement. That's a
good company. See, that's what you get till you get
they're in New Zealand. Is someone you can talk to.

(01:00:12):
And they were very very friendly and they were great,
great people, And that's that's the kind of stories I'm
talking about here. You buy from a solid New Zealand company.
That make a product that's perfect for us. It's high quality.
You might pay a little bit bit more, but it's
a better experience and you're not a bad person. Although
this physines says you're a better person if you buy

(01:00:33):
from China because you're giving money to real poor people
not entitled New Zealand as well. Okay, mate, you might
be giving the money to some really incredibly evil person
that's essentially using slaved labor.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
You don't know, Yeah, Nick, how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
Mate? Yeah?

Speaker 31 (01:00:49):
I just wanted to chime in on a few of
my purchases and what I do to get to get
it done. So basically I manage my expectations, no variables,
no shoels, so nothing on the body. Eventually, I've found
that it's really products with regards to that what I've

(01:01:11):
bought and which has kind of worked well for me.
Vestable shoppers for the kitchen, math mats, mobile covers, anything
around that, okay, kind of works works quite well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
You stay away from electronics, though, I take it neck
you wouldn't buy a little you know, call to charge
your own.

Speaker 8 (01:01:27):
Money, No, not at alls.

Speaker 31 (01:01:31):
So I bought a couple of remote TV remote stores
because my little one keeps smashing them, but I can't
really be bothered to like every now and then.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Yeah, no one can blame you for that, it's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I was just remembering. Actually this is slightly off topic,
but my son, I was saying before its eighteenth birthday,
and a video popped up from his another birthday when
he was three, and the video was him just We're
in a hotel room and he just had the phone
and he was smashing the phone. No, just the phone
is just smashing it. I forgot about that stage of
his life.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
And what were you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
You were just videoing it while I was dealing with
the other kid that was jumping up and down on
the beer. And then that got out of hand because
when I was sitting with that kid, the other one
ran out the door and down that we were staying
in a hotel, ran down the door round around the
corridor it pays like Todder's do, and got into a
lift with some people. I'm in a huge panic, and
I'm not worried about the other kid that's.

Speaker 18 (01:02:21):
In the room.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
And then then these people come back and return my
kid to me. It was, it was, it was, It
was a stressful, cho It was a stressful evening.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Yeah, but yeah, just go back to Nick's point for
the stuff that see Nick is not a bad guy, clearly,
he's one of the good ones. But the little like
bath Man's or you know, we chopping board, maybe some
cutlery as well, called cleaning products.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You can get those cleaning products from a company in
New Zealand that hires New Zealanders and pays their tax
in New Zealand.

Speaker 19 (01:02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
But but but still, I mean, I think whether you
can afford it or not, maybe you can't, but I
think in the end that's what we should tend towards.
That should be our goal, is to try and put
money back into our own community. And you know, and
then you've got a chain of where it comes from.
Is someone you can talk to about it. I just
feel it's it's cleaner, and it's a sort of it's

(01:03:15):
it's a better experience, it's a I personally believe it's
a more honorable way to go if you can afford it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Nick, did you want to rapost.

Speaker 15 (01:03:22):
To the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
No.

Speaker 31 (01:03:25):
I completely agree with the point that's been there, But
I just focus on the things that really don't matter
a lot in terms of quality, and you would want
to kind of buy them again, even if.

Speaker 15 (01:03:36):
It like Greats or something.

Speaker 31 (01:03:38):
But most kinds of puss makes sense, but for quality
stuff and the things that you want to last longer,
certainly by by it, like from a retail store or something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Yeah, thank you for your call, can I Jeff.

Speaker 31 (01:03:52):
Hi the tyler?

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Yeah, that's the chat.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
Well, you're probably not gonna like me, but we buy
at least eighty percent of our stuff off Timu and
sheen and and basically online stores.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Well, look, i'll gif. I like you as a person,
but I just don't like your purchasing. I think overall
you seem to me like a good person, but that
one aspect of your life I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Agree with you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
We just sold the power the shard right, it's three
by five meters shed. It costs three hundred and forty
dollars to get everything off Timu.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
You're a brave man getting solar panels off tim Oh,
it's fantastic.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
And you roll it up at the weather too much.
You just roll it up with it inside.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Isn't it going to be like? Don't worry about it
being a fire?

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Has it there? You know they might be cheap, but
your whole shit could go up in flames.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
It's got your the proper regulators and your power ice
ladder and storage battery as well.

Speaker 17 (01:04:53):
Would you buy it perfect?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Would you buy shoes Jeff from teammate?

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Well, my wife has brought about thirty pairs of running
shoes off.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Tim right, and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
That keeps it going for what a month? Thirty a
pier a day? Or how long are they lasting?

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
She's had one pair for almost two years. I bought
shoes from the warehouse and they haven't even lasted three months.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Yeah, eighty percent of your products, so that's big. I'm
going to run through some some common household items and
you tell me whether you genuinely get these off t
washing basket?

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
No, no, I got one of those from the warehouse.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
You go local for washing baskets.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Okay, what about a it looks like a tiny rubbish
band like we put our trash out.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Oh yeah, they're good, they're good. What about shep it
looks cool? Big cheap?

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Yes, yes, okay, I bought a New Zealand Maid bespoke
a cane washing basket.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
How much it was a lot? But it's good.

Speaker 26 (01:06:02):
That one you went on that one.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Jeff. Good to mate, Thank you very much. Hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call, nine to
ninety two back very shortly. You're listening to matt and Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Mattieth Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on.
Matt Ethan Taylor Adams Afternoon Us talk said.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Be good afternoon. Is it the quality of the price
that matters? This is on the back of seventeen percent
of Kiwi's buying off team, more than any other store
online or otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Welcome to show, Mike. What are your thoughts on quality
versus cheap products?

Speaker 26 (01:06:39):
Good guys, I am currently wearing a pair of shoes
that I had made for me by the last footwear
company here in christ Church thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
What was what was the company? Sorry, what's what's the
What was the company?

Speaker 10 (01:06:57):
The last footwear company?

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
That was?

Speaker 26 (01:06:59):
That was the name. That was the name of the company.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
They're no longer they're no longer in.

Speaker 26 (01:07:09):
But these are actually the second pair of shoes I've
had handmade now now to be fear, it was a
couple of weeks worth of wages worth of shoes and
I've had them, I've had them re sold on a
couple of occasions, but there they fit perfectly. They're light
brand news. They will last me for another twenty years.

(01:07:29):
I wear them probably every second or third day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Wow. And you've got a cobbler that you've got a
relationship with that you take your shoes to.

Speaker 26 (01:07:40):
A big shout out to Bennett's Shoe Service here in
christ Church.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Yea Bennette pe cobblers. So you said a couple a
couple of week love a cobbler, love a cobbler, a
couple of weeks of salary. So just put that into
twenty twenty four dollar terms. What are we talking? Maybe
a thousand bucks?

Speaker 26 (01:07:56):
Yeah, yeah, probably probably at the time about a thousand
bucks worth the shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Now there was a lot of.

Speaker 26 (01:08:01):
Money, but they were they were handmade and gosh that
thirty years worth it. It's been pretty good value. Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I love them and Mike, they've stayed in fashion. They're
as fashionable as they were thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
They are.

Speaker 26 (01:08:15):
They are your classic toe cap black business leather shoes. Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
They are autumn nice, beautiful and you know those shoes
mean something to you. They've become an important thing in
your life. They're not just a piece of joke that
you get, you wear, they get, they get a little
bit damage, and you throw them out. You've got You've
got relationship with the shoes.

Speaker 26 (01:08:38):
I polish them, mate, these are these are beautiful, my babies.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
If those shoes could talk.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I'm going to do that with my new rim Williams.
I'm gonna look after them. I'm going to keep those
for thirty years. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna that's I'm gonna
be Mike's gonna be my inspiration and I'm going to
get a relationship with the cobra. It sounds like I'm
going to start dating a cobbler. No, I'm gonna I'm
going to find a cobbler and stick with the cobbler
because I think that's a brilliant thing. The idea that
you'd get some shoes made and then and then you'd

(01:09:04):
get them fixed and they become your thing and they're
a part of your life and you can hand them onto.

Speaker 14 (01:09:08):
Your kind of like it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
But it's like a forest gum situation where you got
your ready old shoes and you sit down on the
park bench and start telling stories about where these shoes
are being. Man, I tell you, I've been everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Mike's shoes are in great condition. People will be asking
about his shoes. Where do you get those shoes, and
you'd say you can't the handmade and the company doesn't
exist anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Speaking about Cobbler's actually is Mum used to take my
shoes down to the Cobbler and Nelson. It was the
Doc Martins and Doc Martins were expensive and we had
to have them at Nelson College. Oh yeah, and because
I've got flat feet, I went through those soles like
nobody else. I was on a lean most of the time.
After about two months, So the cobbler, he was great.
I can't remember his name. I'll try and find that name.

(01:09:47):
Given we shout out, he might not be cobbling anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I'm trying to remember a couple of New Zealand shoe brands.
There were Barter bullets.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Oh yeah, part of the Barleet bullets.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
I think Barter bullets still go. I thinking at bart
of Bullets. There was commandos, and I believe the commando
factory was in christ Church as well, and I think
they fired it up again in recent years to fire
out some commandos.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Now they got back the shoe game, yeah, rugged shark.
Was that Kiwi rugged shark?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I'm not sure. Where were they making nomads?

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Oh, good question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Nod's manufactured in New Zealand. Linead shoes as well. So
we used to have a whole lot of shoe manufacturers.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
We were, we were proud shoe people.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Yeah, once upon a time.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Oh eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the number
to call. It is fourteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four News Talks.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
EDB, News Talks EDB. You're listening to Matt and Tyler Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
How are you, mate?

Speaker 14 (01:10:44):
I'm good and good to talk to you guys like Quise.
I've been listening. And you know, I buy a lot
of stuff from Timu I have over the years from
Timu and from Eli Express yep, And I sat down.
I just made a bit of a list of things
because some of them have come up that you thought
you might avoid. But things for example, chainsaw chains. Okay,

(01:11:06):
I buy from from l Express and I'll get maybe
three chains for twenty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
And they do they do, they fire off and take
your eye out or are they Okay, No.

Speaker 14 (01:11:16):
They don't, but I'm sure plenty of people would want
to spread that rumor. No, I've never had a problem
with them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
And the.

Speaker 14 (01:11:24):
The fact is that if I went into Bunnings or
to Minor ten, I'd be buying Chinese chainsaws just the same.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
What about what if we take it down to something
like shoes, for example? Do you like the idea mark
that you could you could buy a pair of shoes,
leather shoes, handmade and look after them for your life
and take them to a cobbler. Can you can you
see the worth and that and and the joy and
that and the spiritual relationship you could gain with a

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pair of shoes that you don't get from something you
buy from team.

Speaker 14 (01:11:53):
Really, I can see someone love with their shoes. Yeah,
a particular pair of shoes.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I think they might be a saying for that. People
that have an unhealthy a fection for this shoes.

Speaker 14 (01:12:07):
Yeah, maybe they've got a fetish of some Seriously, if
it was a really nice business pair of shoes that
they wanted to do that with for years, yeah, totally
the same pair of good quality.

Speaker 15 (01:12:18):
Shoes if you bought it and you would probably be four.

Speaker 14 (01:12:20):
Hundred bucks anyway. Yeah, but no, if we were talking. Look,
I buy hiking shoes. I've got a particular brand that
I like from our Express. They generally cost me about
fifty bucks.

Speaker 15 (01:12:30):
Now.

Speaker 14 (01:12:31):
I do a lot of walking and a lot of hiking,
So yes, I do go through them, and I like
all of my shoes that I buy. They go a
little bit at the heels, but.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
See, I wouldn't do that. Thank you very much for
calling through Mark buying hiking boots when you're in the
back country in the middle of nowhere and you get
your temu boots that may or may not fall apart.
But appreciate your comments. Now we've been having a bit
of cobbler chat, Yeah, HARKing back to the good old
days of the shoe repairman John. Are you a cobbler yourself.

Speaker 27 (01:12:59):
Hey, guys, Yeah, look a few on a really good
cobbler in Auckland.

Speaker 15 (01:13:04):
He doesn't the meta bag with shopping, okay, fantast.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Oh yeah, best, I think I think, I just I
just I'll just find find that name out. I think
I just look looked that up. Cobbler Meadow Bank. There's
also there's also the Great, Great New Zealanders gamels On
on Simon Street. They've been going since I han't the
family business. They've been going since nineteen twenty five. They'll
fix it, they'll repair in anything leather.

Speaker 21 (01:13:29):
Yeah, yeahs are good.

Speaker 27 (01:13:31):
But I just think the sky's better.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Okay, that's the best in Auckland cobbler, best in New Zealand,
even John Cobbler Meadow Bank. Alex the Cobbler.

Speaker 15 (01:13:43):
And it's the same God that you've looked like a
figure shows we sold.

Speaker 27 (01:13:49):
He'll put the posh on losing us fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Ay, he's a good man. Yeah, Alex, what a great
New Zealander, great cobbler. So Alex celebrating forty years of
service to the community. Alex the Cobbler. It's actually Carl
and Rochard that run it, but it's called Alex the Cobler.
Good on you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Some recommendations for other cobb blers around the country.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I don't know. I didn't predict today that we'll go
to cobb the chat very cheat.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Yeah me too. Shane Shoe Repairs and Nelson Beast in
the Bizo. Uh and here's actually called Shane.

Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
So that's good and really good with the Rim Williams resoul.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Okay, yeah, right, so I've got my Rim Williams that
I've bought the other day, and I'm gonna I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Go to Shane Shane and Nelson Shane.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I've got a good Gimmels I'm gonna go to I'm
gonna go to Alex I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
go to Cobblers. I'm gonna keep these boots going for life.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Yick here, Mike, how are you?

Speaker 10 (01:14:39):
Hello?

Speaker 32 (01:14:40):
Good?

Speaker 8 (01:14:40):
And I'm good? Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
You want to talk about Teama You're a massive team shopper,
Well not really.

Speaker 33 (01:14:47):
I bought some stuff from there and I still have
some some of those it still work. But but yeah,
so I really want to think about the shoe. So
there's definitely some shoes that I'm there. I'm never going
to buy those because especially those fake door ones.

Speaker 8 (01:15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:15:07):
So there's some group of people in New Zealand that
you can probably call them like Colt, right, so if
they see you wearing one of the fake shoes around,
like you know, you'll definitely received some look from that face.
But yeah, so I do have a few of the

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original ones and I've experienced. You probably noticed those some
young guys lining up in front of a foot locker
or loaded in oubland, you know, overnight and stuff. So yeah,
so what a good experience.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
But are you interested in jumping on my handcrafted shoes
for life dream getting a pair of shoes, looking after them,
taking them to a cobbler, and creating a special, potentially
amorous relationship with with a pair of shoes.

Speaker 15 (01:15:55):
Yeah, I have my own storage for my shoes for
my daughter.

Speaker 32 (01:16:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Yeah, it's not quite in your he's getting there for
a shoes. Yeah, Mike, you're a good man. Hey are
you Kimberly?

Speaker 34 (01:16:10):
You know, Matt? So I'm anti THETMOS thing, just just
some principle, really, yeah, I'd rather go oxhop. Oh yeah,
So I just wanted to I just wanted to tell
you a shoe story. So when my husband married the
father of his that mother, Hannah, my husband a mother

(01:16:30):
children in sixty eight, he bought a pair of really
good quality black leather dress shoes, like leather, soul lining,
the whole works. So he remarried in nineteen seventy nine
and he wore the same shoes, and then in twenty
twelve he married me and she wore the same shoes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Yes, this is this is making me very happy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
This is a good man here.

Speaker 6 (01:16:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 34 (01:16:57):
Sometime afterwards I was told quite severally by a really
lovely young woman Kimberly, you need to burn those shoes
and to marry someone else.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Yeah, that's a good point. Actually, you know, on those
shoes to go into another wedding.

Speaker 34 (01:17:12):
Oh, absolutely not. Anyway, I haven't burnt them. But we
have an exceptional cobbler. I'm still working in Venim yep,
and it's really great. They've prepared like Riker's boots, form
and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
What's the name of the cobbler, Kimberly.

Speaker 34 (01:17:30):
It's called the shoe Stores quis wells.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Oh, yep, good, yeah, good.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Good to shout out a good cobbler and Bim.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Kimberly a great story and love at the standard of
cobbler chat.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Heck you, Jenny, we've got about sixty seconds. How are
you hi?

Speaker 35 (01:17:44):
I'm good things.

Speaker 10 (01:17:45):
Hey.

Speaker 35 (01:17:46):
I don't like tea movies either.

Speaker 29 (01:17:48):
I don't.

Speaker 35 (01:17:49):
I've never bought anything because it's I'd see it as
low quality. But I just want to touch face on
the fact you're talking about the ethical side of that,
the high cost brains aren't necessarily efficult because a lot
of those high brands are unethical anyway. So how more

(01:18:09):
money doesn't equal ethics.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I mean, but I guess you could at least
do the investigation. If you took the time, you could,
you could probably follow the trail back and find a
little bit more about them and then make a choice.

Speaker 35 (01:18:22):
Yeah, yeah, most likely. I mean, you can probably say
TIMU is like the ethical like those sweitch shops and everything,
But you can't equal price to that as well, So
that's something else. So saying that I bought something high
quality one of the brand names doesn't mean that you
were thinking of the ethical side as well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Very good, Jenny, so much, good point, Jenny.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Good chat, good cobbler chat. We could do that for
the whole show, but we've got something else coming up
very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
That's right, your new home for Instateful. It's a teening talk.
It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Zebby.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
A very good afternoon to you Friday afternoon, the home
straight for us and many others out there. It's me
two three o'clock. That's when people start at in the pubs.
Now before we get into a nixt segment, just a
quick chat about some big sporting events coming up on
the weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Yeah, you got the NPC Finals, Bad plenty, Canterbury fourteen tomorrow,
you got Wellington Wakator semi finals seventeen tomorrow, got the
Mighty Black Ops. What a fantastic performance that was getting
rolling India for forty six. They continue day three in India.
One hundred and eighty three Team New Zealand they're competing

(01:19:40):
in this weekend. They're currently four to two up and
the Auckland FC they kick off their franchise against Brisbane
at five the end.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
They give them a taste to KeyWe and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Liam Lawson in the hot over the weekend. So many
exciting time to be in New Zealander.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Huge, It's always excited to be in New Zealander, but
particularly this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Yeah right, it is a seven past three.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
And Tyler Adams today on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on
zebe we name the New Zealander of a week in
honor that we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker
who has had an outsized effect on our great and
beautiful nation over the previous five days. As always, there'll
be two nominees and a winner. And remember, like the
Time magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealand of
the Week isn't always an agent of good. So without

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further messing around, the nominees for madd and Tyler Afternoons
New Zealander of the Week are nominee one. He owns
the biggest berm in Livin. He doesn't like to be
pushed around, so when horror for now a district council
stopped mowing it in July, he took a stand. Unfortunately,
grass doesn't grow and live in in winter, so no
one noticed for a while. But this week we are
starting to notice John Murphy for sticking it to the

(01:20:50):
man and letting your Levin nature strip grow long and proud.
You have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Yes, well, I'm John Boyd.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Nominee two. Everyone including myself, said they were done. They
were off to India to get spanked. The golden age
of New Zealand cricket was over. But these great Kiwis
showed the world by rolling India for forty six and
subjecting the cricket Powerhouse of India to a humiliating lowest
ever home turf testing score the Black Caps. You have

(01:21:24):
been nominated for a New Zealander of the Week. Yes, boys,
but there can be only one and the winner is
They're the Kiwi go getters who rang up Graham Norton
on a whim and made wine with the man that
has sold twenty million bottles globally and now yesterday in
a star studded event in New York City and Vivo

(01:21:47):
have delivered another glamour product into one thousand, two hundred
US stores in Vivo, New Zealand for getting together with
Miss Sex in the City, Sarah Jessica Parker to cut
out the middleman and shove some wine into some cheese
and ship it all over the United States of America
and Vivo Wines.

Speaker 36 (01:22:06):
You're smart, you're ambitious, and you are our new Zealanders
of the Week. Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Give them a taste of KeyWe God bless and God
speed to you and your family, and we expect some
free cheese. Confused with windstt go without saying all right,
well done, congratulates.

Speaker 37 (01:22:43):
Ya.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Give a taste of kew well deserved. I've got to say,
great New Zealanders. Now you mentioned you mentioned before Auckland
f C. And this is what we're going to talk
about over the next week while. So you are a
massive football fan.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I enjoyed football. You've played it, played it for a
very long time.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
I think I was. Yeah, great footballers, Grayland Redstar. We
we we owned the trophy at the local y MCA
for for a number of years. Fantastic team. Yes, still no,
you know, I don't but you know, near the end,
I was getting subbed off a lot, so I packed
up my toys and we know. But yeah, big football fan,

(01:23:24):
and so I'm excited about this. I'm sorry about Auckland
f C.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Yeah, and there's been a long time coming. I mean
it's not the first time someone has tried to start
an Auckland football club.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
It's the third time in this sort of in this
sort of competition. But I think they've got a lot
behind them. They're excited this. The games sold out tomorrow
night at go Media Stadium, so there's a bit of
excitement around for the game. But whenever I talk about
football and I came in here to news talks, he'd
be this morning I started talking about it and he

(01:23:55):
was like, no, football boring, low scoring. You're one of
those people, Tyler, and I disagree. I think I think
it's an exciting sport, and I think that the low
scoring part of it as part of it because a
goal is worth so important to a game. In football,

(01:24:15):
it's end to end and the opposition goal and your
goal is under attack a lot of the time. So
I think it's a very, very exciting sport. I think
it's a very exciting sport to see live when you're
in the stands and you can see how the speed
of the game fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
What I will concede. And yes, I am one of
those who not firmly believes, but somewhat believes that football
is a slower sport than say rugby, or maybe not
rugby now because we know those breakdowns and going up
to the bunker slows everything down. But genuinely I think
that rugby is more exciting than football. But I know
there's a lot of massive football fans out there. It's

(01:24:53):
called the beautiful game for a reason.

Speaker 17 (01:24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Well, I guess one hundred and eighty ten eighty do
you love football? Can you convince rugby and league fans
that football is an exciting sport or if you're on
the other side of it, we'd like to hear you
as well. Why don't you enjoy football?

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
Do you think Auckland f C the game this weekend
that's going to be a seller It is a sellout.
Is there going to be a ground swell behind this team?
Is what I'm saying. Is I get why people can
get behind the Wellington Phoenix to some extent, but having
another football team in New Zealand, the Auckland f C,
I don't know. I don't know if they're going to
get the ground swell behind them, you firmly do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
I'm part of it. I'm ground swelling. I'm excited about
it along, I've got my shirt. I'm going along, you know,
and I love it. Another franchise in Auckland Warriors. I'm
just getting my season tickets for the Warriors as well,
and I think it's fantastic. It's something that you can
you can follow, you can go, you can go along
to these things. If you get on the ground floor,

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you can be there. You can be there with them
from the start and be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Yeah, Texas just come through that's going to upset you.
Football is the most boring game in the world. I
don't care who knows it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Well, yeah, that's an opinion a lot of people have,
and I'm interested in that opinion, and I'm interested in
the opinion. Well, I'm interested in my opinion. In my opinion,
is a very exciting sport. I'm excited about Auckland if
c let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Well, just quickly before we go to the break, I
will concede that when it comes to the grassroots level,
football aka soccer as some people call it, growing at
a far greater pace than rugby, Rugby is losing ground
at the grass roots. We're talking young children here and there.
We go into soccer, they go into football.

Speaker 17 (01:26:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Well, you know, I had kids that I wanted to
play rugby, but there was some pushback from a grandparent
and from a mother around head injuries. And I thought,
come on, you know, because I wanted my son to
play rugby. As much as I say I love football,
I also love rugby. And he ended up playing football,
and to be fair, he wasn't that into it and
then he got into ruwhing. But you know, I think

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a at the head injuries and parents being overly worried
about the safety of their kids is a big part
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty Is football
really the beautiful game? Is it more exciting than rugby?
On the phone's nineteen ninety two. Here's the text number.
It's quarter past three, good afternoon, seventeen past three rugby
versus football aka soccer. Matt Heath is a messive football fan.
You're a messive rugby fan as well, to be fair.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
A massive league fan. It is called the beautiful man,
and a messive cricket fan and a messive baseball fan. Look,
I'm into sport. I love watching sport.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Football is the biggest team sport in the world, no
doubt about it when it comes to the World Cup.
But are you a fan or do you think it's boring? Bill?
You're not a fan.

Speaker 15 (01:27:39):
No, No, Look at you.

Speaker 38 (01:27:42):
Get ninety minutes of excitement at all?

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Yes, Bill, yes, yeah.

Speaker 38 (01:27:50):
And it's not football, it's soccer.

Speaker 8 (01:27:51):
Let's get it straight.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
I'm actually not one of those people that cares where
you call it soccer or football. Some people get really
really irate about it. Do you know, do you know
what you want an interesting factor because I love to
sheer effect orid do you know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
What fun fact?

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Do you know why it's called football not because you
kick it with your foot, but because sports used to
be mainly on horseback, so any any sport played on
foot was called football, rugby or or you know in
America they call NFL football soccer is called football anyway, good, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
See this is why I think it's a boring sport,
you know, bridge sport.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
I bored myself with that fact. I got bored halfway
through and tried to pull out. But Bill, what do
you say that? You know, you say, Neil all draw,
But but the the goal is under attack and because
the point is worth so much, a goal is worth
so much. One one is worth so much. That's you know.

Speaker 38 (01:28:53):
If you're pretty cool, if we're watching English forty or
something like that. But well, the museum team, now the
women's are the means. You know, they got one shot
at goals in ninety minutes, got beaten about three nil
or something that evans a two off. And I think
in this country it needs to be out there summer
sports markets player.

Speaker 15 (01:29:14):
But outside of that, so.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
What, so, what's what's your sport? Bill, rugby rugby and
what about rugby versus league for you, Bill.

Speaker 38 (01:29:24):
Well, I mean ones are third sport, the other ones
are thank sport with a bit of brain.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
I like you, Bill, You're good mate, You're good Martin.
You're a big football fan.

Speaker 8 (01:29:35):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm I love the football. It's great,
soundy sport to play. I don't know why you guys
all get so excited about rugby. And I love to
watch the game on rugby, But so stops start and
then about sixty percent of the game halfway through they
change about half the team, Yeah, just getting into the

(01:29:58):
flow of everybody paying. And then at about the sixty
minute mark, half the team judges, another team comes on.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
That's the thing with football. I agree with you. It's
it's the beautiful game for a reason, because it's because
it's it's flowing, it's it's it's NonStop, and it's end
to end, and and and you in the players they've
got k they put in k's they.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Put they are some serious athletes. I'll give you that.
It always strikes me mad and I might have this wrong,
but am I sensing a slight English accent.

Speaker 8 (01:30:28):
There from a long time ago?

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Long time ago, but it always fascinates me that that
in New Zealand rugby is the working man's sport, that's
the every man's sport, and football was seen as maybe
a bit elite, whereas in the UK completely the opposite.
The football is the working man's sport and rugby is elite.

Speaker 8 (01:30:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. But but anybody can play rugby.
You play soccer, play football or soccer, call it, can
play it anywhere. You just need something around, you know,
put a ground you can play and that's why it's
so popular. You don't need to have specialis and tackle
bags and all that sort of ship. Yeah, so that's
why I said, just like match in to end stuff,

(01:31:12):
you can be into ending a couple of seconds and
one minute you're under attack and the next minute you're
down on the other and scoring the goals.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
I think you make a really good point, Martin. And
I've thought about this a little bit with basketball as well,
and why basketball is growing, I like in New Zealand
is because you can play that by yourself. You can
play it with two people, you can play it with
with as many people as you can get together. Well
obviously not you don't want to have fifteen on each basketball.
But you know, in my neighborhood there's a number of
half courts and that's a big thing. And football is

(01:31:40):
the same thing. I mean, we used to play play
footy with cans. You know, Palais famously started off playing
with an orange. Yeah, and that is a that is
a great thing. But you know, you know, you can
get a few people together and it's hard to play
rugby by yourself. I'd say you can be Dan Carter
spending hundreds of hours practicing your kicking and that's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
The one thing I will concede is the football fans
are way more energetic, way more lively.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
They've got some great chance, great chance.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
That is what rugby fans should be able to learn
from to get more excited in the stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
But then agin you watch a South African football game
rugby game and their fans are crazy. I do think
we need to go a little bit harder in the
stands for rugby. But you know, you go to a
Warriors game and that is that is a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
That is a good time. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It's twenty three past.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Three, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
News Talks EB. It's twenty five past three.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Pam your thoughts on football?

Speaker 19 (01:32:51):
Hi, guys, our great show, Thank you listen. I guess
I guess like every New Zealander, I'm brought up on
a diet of rugby, you know it with our national sport.
But the older I've got, I just like I love
all sport and it always does entertain me that I
think rugby fans get a bit threshned by football fans

(01:33:15):
and you can actually love both, you know. I've been
following the Phoenix. I'm in Wellington since day one. I myself,
I'm feeling a bit threatened about the Conch Football Club,
but I just think it's a spectacle and as I
think you mentioned before, being part of that crowd, you

(01:33:39):
just cannot beat.

Speaker 15 (01:33:41):
A football crowd.

Speaker 31 (01:33:43):
I was lucky enough to go.

Speaker 19 (01:33:44):
To the twenty ten feet for World Cup. Clearly the
cherry on the top was the all whites there and tournament.
How good was that? And that's when you see that
football is a beautiful game and it is the game
of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
I went along to Japan Switzerland at the FIFA will
Cup at Eden Park and when we were walking in
with my kids, we're going, which side are you going
to pack? And we just randomly picked sides and then
by the end of it, I was screaming it was
the worst thing of the world of Japan didn't win.
That's how quickly I was excited about the game that
that FIFA wil Cup in New Zealand was. That was

(01:34:27):
such a good, good time. So I feel so lucky
that I got to attend some of those games.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
I got into it as well. I mean, Pam you
you pitched that beautifully about why football reigned supreme, But yeah,
I'm with you. I was slow to get into it,
but once the fervor and the excitement and the hype
got got started to build up, I was.

Speaker 15 (01:34:45):
It was with it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
And Pam, wait till those you talk about feeling a
bit threatened about Auckland ft C. But wait to those dirtyes,
wait to the Auckland Wellington games.

Speaker 13 (01:34:55):
They are going to be your second down here.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
That's going to be hot.

Speaker 19 (01:34:59):
But I just think, you know, it's no ussole ZM
like this weekend. I'm following the lines in the NPC
tomorrow and n Sunday. I'm at the base and watching
the fire beds and the Ford Trophy. Then we're going
to have to leave quickly to get down to the
stadium to watch the Phoenix. So it's a competition, you know,

(01:35:20):
like you can love all sport.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
You're the real deal pair.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Yeah, you put me to Shane. You're an actual football fan, right,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty wave. Time for another
couple of calls, and just a reminder, we do have
topical tunes on the Waivery Shore.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Yeah, that's like, that's right. Tyler and I go head
to head on tunes that are both great songs but
also related to a subject that we've been discussing this week,
and we'll take the best of five on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty whose song is better. I can't
wait for the topical tune I lost last week and
it's not gonna happen again, Tyler.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
That's about fifteen minutes away, but we're going to carry
on the football chat. Twenty eight past three.

Speaker 20 (01:36:00):
News Talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's
no trouble with a Blue Bubble the Solicitor General's back
down on controversial new legal guidelines. Attorney General Judith Collins
publicly challenged Una Jergois on her directing prosecutors to think
carefully about particular decisions where a person is mardy. The

(01:36:21):
Solicitor General's now taken down the guidelines to review devastation
in South Canterbury, with up to six hundred jobs axed
and Timaru Alliance Groups confirmed the Smithfield Meatworks will shut
by the end of the year. Staff will be offered
redeployment at its other processing plants where possible. Christ Churchis
and Beads College is working openly with police following the

(01:36:45):
arrest of a former staff member on historical abuse charges.
The man has been charged with offending against three students
who boarded at the Catholic school two decades ago. Contaminated
fuels to blame for a cook straight fairy losing power
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Bluebirdge says it's now working to find how the fuel

(01:37:07):
became contaminate it. Oh Kamena Harris worked her way to
the top by those who knew her. You can see
the full story at nz Herald Premium back to Matt
Heath and Tyner Adams.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Thank you very much, Railan. We're talking about football versus rugby.
In New Zealand, football is called the beautiful game. It's
on the back of Auckland DEFC having their first match
this weekend. Matt Heath, you are incredibly excited. You're backing
them from the bottom floor.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Yeah, that's right. I'm going to be in there early
and stick with them going along on Saturday. I'm very
excited about it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
Yeah, John, you're a football fan.

Speaker 10 (01:37:41):
Oh yes, I am a football fan, unfortunately a Manchester
United fan. But what can you do?

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:37:49):
Look, look football, I've watched it. You know, I've gotten up,
you know from a Brazilian World Cup, especially with that
dreaded defeat to Germany and the humiliator familiation, humiliation. But
you know, like both sports, they offer a different euphoria.
One of the greatest games over Watch was a couple
of years ago and football wise, which was Real Madrid

(01:38:12):
versus City and that was just pure euphoria. I don't
know how Real Madrid pulled that off and scored two
goals and not even two minutes. But going to a
different euphoria was all Blacks versus Island at that last
World Oh my god, somehow Ireland did not score thirty
three phases. Yeah, it was just swehen and obviously as

(01:38:34):
a key week, absolutely screaming and cut.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
To the greatest, the greatest, the greatest sporting cross of
all time. Joey Wheeler on a paperma bar table singing
bliss when we won that it was the greatest sporting
cross of all time.

Speaker 10 (01:38:50):
You get different euphoria, but you know, football it does
offer that. It's just this you know, build up. I
know you get I've watched games where it's well I'm
never going to get that part of my life back,
am I that's ninety minutes or one hundred and rather
watch paint right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
Well, I'm a Test cricket fan, so talk about there
you go.

Speaker 10 (01:39:15):
Or in some respects formerly one race and where it's
like you get to lap forty six. Well we've just
been going around and around. But you get moments like
you know, the starping in Hamilton anyway, I'm going of
course here. But with football you get those moments where
it's just you can't compare it. That City Real Madrid game,
the euphoria and and the previous caller, Winston Reid scoring

(01:39:37):
that goal against and oh.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
My gosh, oh my Goshally Live that was phenomenal. One
thing I'll say that that football does lack is one
of my favorite things in sport is the first hit
up in league. Yeah, that that first that first run
of the first tackle. That that that big, violent, gladiatorial
impact and is something that I that I love in

(01:40:01):
league and in rugby.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Union particularly State of Origin, Holy moly game State of
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
And in the Grand final this year of the NRL.
I mean, that was that was hype.

Speaker 17 (01:40:14):
That was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
That was That was good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Don't get that in football, Richard? How you doing they boys?

Speaker 8 (01:40:22):
How are you good?

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
Football?

Speaker 23 (01:40:25):
So football, Yeah, it's not a bad game. I do
watch the odd one. It's not my favorite, but there
you do realize, Matt, what the definition of football is,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
I think I'm about to hear it.

Speaker 8 (01:40:40):
Yep.

Speaker 23 (01:40:41):
Two teams go on a field, the ref blows the whistle,
one of them kicks the ball, and then they stand
back and watch a riot for the next ninety televised
and ends up on the news. And then there's a
subtitle you might find out who won the game European football.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
I remember a I can't remember who it was, but
it was a British commentator and it said, how come
in rugby they can beat the love and crap out
each other on the fiel, but the crowd is very polite,
but it's completely the reverse for football.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
Yeah, very good, Richard, that's a nice call to finish on.
Thank you very much and good chats. All right, but
right now, Tyler, we've been waiting for this all week here.
Well you have because I won the first one, the
inaugural one, and you can never get that back, Matt Heath.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
But yeah, apologies to Georgie from last week when I've
got a bit bit angry at the end of this
and I just want to if you're listening, yeah, it
was a bit emotional at the end of this particular
competition last week.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
But it is time for topic called shune and this
week I think you're going to go first, matte Heath.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Yeah, that's right. Each week Tyler and I go head
to head on a tune that's both great and related
to a subject that we've been discussing this week, So
first of best of five on eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty decides whose song is better, Tyler's or Matt Heath's.

(01:42:07):
All right, okay, so here we go. ACC had a
bit of a blowout and to the tune of seven
point two billion dollars. But I think it's a great thing, ACC,
because it enables us as a nation to take risks,
and a country that is bold does better. So go
out and do things, all right, take some risks, and

(01:42:28):
that's why I'm taking you to the danger zone. Any
locks six from the Top Gun soundtrack high Ways one
hundred eight eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
Show, very good, very good. I'm gonna have to come
in hot here because I actually quite like that song
and a good movie.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
But how good is it when they revisited it in
Maverick in the sequel? Anyway?

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
So emotional? Wasn't it really emotional? Right? So the theme
of the week I've picked today a lot about our
Fresco dining is yeah, yeah, me too, love our Frisco dining.
A lot of rumblings in Queenstown, pod Hunger, Auckland christ
Church about fees charged to the poor cafes and restaurants
who just want to put out a couple of tables
in the sun and let people eat outside.

Speaker 14 (01:43:20):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
The song I've Chosen to Meet encapsulates bean outside, enjoin,
some nice cocktails, been in the rain, maybe a bit
of love making on the dunes. It's escape.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Okay, good song.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
If you're not into you, if you have a fin.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
That is a worthy adversary.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
Oh, this is going to be going right. Eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. The first to three votes takes it out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Danger Zone versus the Pinacolata.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
Song nine nine two is the texts. We don't take texts,
but get on the phone and let's get into it.
It is twenty wonder four.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred Taylor
Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four news Talk.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Said be it is time for topical tunes. This is
the part of the show where both Matt and I
each pick a song related to a theme of the week.
But it is a bit of a chance just play
songs we really like.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's the quality of the tune and mine
is better. Here we go danger Zone. Kenny loggans.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Yep, okay, not bad, and I went for There's I've
been a lot of chat for a bit of Alfresco dining,
so I've gone for escape.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Yeah, I'm a little bit nervous to the text from
my sister and Dunedin. Oh my god, Matt, so sorry,
but the Pinacolata song is seriously my favorite song.

Speaker 4 (01:45:01):
IS's got great taste your sister ow and Georgie's been
in touch.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Oh yeah, I got a bit heated with the Georgie last,
but she sticks is mad. It's all fun. Someone even
said on important caller, which you very much are.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Here we go, and if you can't get through,
keep trying because the phone lines are full, But keep trying.
How are you doing, Maddy?

Speaker 17 (01:45:27):
Good bloody show mate.

Speaker 8 (01:45:29):
Listen, Maddy, you stick with that round ball game son
number one? Hey, Tyler, I'm with you on this one, kid.

Speaker 19 (01:45:37):
I go for it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
Yes, Jimmy boy, all right, I had a good game,
Bye boy, Thank you, love you, Jimmy.

Speaker 5 (01:45:43):
So right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
That's one for me, Simon, how are you doing?

Speaker 29 (01:45:49):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Simon?

Speaker 14 (01:45:52):
Yeah, I'm different going with the Bogan aspect with Maddy.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Here straight into it right, one for me, one for
Matt take who Andy? How are you mate.

Speaker 27 (01:46:06):
Thanks, how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:46:07):
God?

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
You sound like a bit of a dangerous fellow. You
sound like a bit of a Tom Cruise fan, a
bit of a top Gun fan, a bit of a
Kenny Loggins.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
Man, don't buy don't buy into it. Andy, you know
what to do here?

Speaker 21 (01:46:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:46:17):
No, I'm I definitely don't like peanut coladas, so I'm
definitely dans. But I have never seen the movie, so
I still like the song.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
I'll tell you what, watch the watch the nine eighty
six one, and then watch the sequel. I've watched Maverick,
Top Gun Metric, Maverick about I think eight times like
you too.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
All right, we've got a competition to play here, right,
So two for Matt's one for me.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
So I'm striking distance of winning here.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
It's match point Lendon. How are you?

Speaker 19 (01:46:44):
I'm well, how are you?

Speaker 10 (01:46:45):
Guys's good?

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
You seem like a Rupert Holmes sort of fan to me.

Speaker 25 (01:46:55):
That I've definitely got to go where dangers.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
He doesn't.

Speaker 8 (01:47:01):
He's done it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
Hi, way, thank you very much?

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
Men.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Actually, really, because I knew it was a tenuous link
with the Pinacolata songs, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
I've been hurting all weeks since you beat me with
Celeen Dian against my ac DC song last week. And look,
I just want to thank all my fans. I want
to thank all those people that enjoy getting out there
and get involving themselves and in sport and trying dangerous things.
I want to thank Tom Cruise as well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Can you just play a little bit of their Pinacolata song?
Is she's just a weak taste?

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
Yeah, that's what you're missed out on. That's what you're
missed out on. People. All right, thank you Andy, give
him as juice, give him as jew.

Speaker 28 (01:47:40):
Here we go, people, we go offcas on hound attention

(01:48:01):
taking the un detention girl.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
Thank you, No.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
The twilight.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
There's a lot of wives in there. She's got to
jumping up the bed, shoving in the old joint.

Speaker 37 (01:48:33):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 30 (01:48:37):
So I'll take your side.

Speaker 5 (01:48:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:48:48):
Not say happy out to you want to get it
on a little?

Speaker 37 (01:48:54):
You don't know what you'll come to?

Speaker 5 (01:48:56):
What's I don't know yet?

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Always were a bird?

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
Who they're only?

Speaker 7 (01:49:36):
How do they in testy?

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
How the way to the danks our?

Speaker 37 (01:49:46):
Don't take a ride? Thanks our.

Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
Home way do dang.

Speaker 37 (01:49:59):
D wow where Dame Sour?

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
Don't wanna take it ride?

Speaker 5 (01:50:23):
Dames sound.

Speaker 37 (01:50:27):
Where sound? Don't wanna take it ride?

Speaker 5 (01:50:48):
Eight sound?

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Oh sure?

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
All right, that takes you back to the eighties time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
I'm excited. I'm going straight home and I'll watch that
top can because the way they brought that back in
and it's the text to here on nine two nine
two seys one movie where a sequel is better than
the original. I might agree with that. And people have
watched that movie. You've heard the theory that, oh you
haven't seen it, have you?

Speaker 19 (01:51:18):
Not?

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
The not the second one so good, but people have
seen it. There's there's this theory that that Maverick, that
he dies at the start of the movie, and the
and the test flight and the rest of it is
just heaven because everything everything gets sorted out.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
So what is it this goose Maverick? Was it the
Postman and the original?

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
Oh yeah yeah, ice Man?

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
Yeah, ice Man?

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
Yeah yeah, great movie. Great, well mate, So that's one
piece we're going to keep it, Telly going on, yeah,
because it's high stakes. But we'll do it all again
next Friday. Topical Tune.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Yeah, actually no, I think about it. I'm not going
to go home straight away and watch that I'm going
to go out for beer with you after the.

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
Yeah I'm not a sore Winner is eleven minutes before.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons You
for twenty twenty four Used TALKSBB Coming up at four.

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Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Well, we mentioned before the MPC semifinals Wellington v Ykator
both Plenty versus Canterbury got the black Caps currently smashing
India eighteen. New Zealand up four to two in the
America's Cup Auckland FC kick off against the Brisbane tomorrow
at Brisbane, Brisbane tomorrow at five. But you reads me. Look,

(01:53:12):
I don't want to say this and I don't want
to end the show on a bad note. But your
sexist tight of because you didn't mention, you didn't mention
the bloody bloody Woman's cricket.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
Oh the tea Twitter, you got the list in front
of you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
But no, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
We have had a few texts and look we mentioned
this early in the show, but quite right. The second
semifinal in the ICC Woman's Tea twenty World Cup New
Zealand versus the West and these that's three am in
the morning, Saturday morning, tomorrow morning, so that's going to
be a big one and if the girls can bring
it home then they face South Africa in the final.

(01:53:45):
Nice save yeah, nice write. What's going on for the weekend?

Speaker 8 (01:53:47):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
He Well, as I said before, you and me about
to go and have a beer. I'm excited about that.
I'm going to the AUCKLANDFC, so very very excited. What
a fantastic week it is been and what a fantastic
weekend it's going to be in this beautiful country.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
Of our Absolutely go well, whatever you're doing this weekend,
enjoy it. You might see mad at Auckland FC. If
you do, tell him I sent you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Yeah, and hey, give him a taste of key for me.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
That's right. They have a good one. Now we're going
out with a bit of Liam pain. That was the
sad story of the week, obviously, Liam Payne falling out
of that balcony after what appeared to be quite a
wild night. So a lot of one direction fans. Very
sad and very shocking you so, but a Liam Payne
to go out, have a great weekend.

Speaker 32 (01:54:31):
This is the my eyes upon uprising mutching anybody else,
but you love it?

Speaker 7 (01:54:37):
Hit me hard, girl, Yeah, you're that for a mile.
I love the gods that upender.

Speaker 32 (01:54:43):
Do you feel the same as well? You know he
used to being wandered Coe. People want me for one thing.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Guys know me.

Speaker 7 (01:54:49):
I'm not changing the way that I used to be.
I just want to have fun and you're roady.

Speaker 32 (01:54:54):
We're called Gambacardi lately one on inside the party, girls
on me, the fun sat Ferrari.

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
Excuse me.

Speaker 39 (01:55:01):
Got to love it when your body crans on me, baby,
You know what. I love it when the music start
book coming. Step that down for me, baby. There's a
lot of people here in the crowd boat on it.
You can danceer me. So put your hands on.

Speaker 7 (01:55:14):
My body and swing that ground for me.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
Baby.

Speaker 30 (01:55:18):
You know I love when the music slap I come
and shift that down for me.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah down gay yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:55:30):
You know that since the day I met you. Yeah,
you swept me off my feet. You know that I
don't need no money and your love is beside me. Yeah,
you opened up heart and then you threw read the key.

Speaker 30 (01:55:44):
Girl.

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
Now wh's just you and me, and you don't care
about where I is. You know I used to be
wander comma free. People want me for one.

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
Thing that's not me.

Speaker 7 (01:55:53):
I'm not changing no way that I used to be.
I just want to have fun and you're roady.

Speaker 32 (01:55:57):
I called Gambacardi siply want to walk inside the party
girls on me the fun side, ferrari, excuse me.

Speaker 7 (01:56:04):
You gotta love when your body.

Speaker 5 (01:56:05):
Grinds on me. Baby.

Speaker 39 (01:56:07):
You know what, Ever, when the music start becoming strip
that down for me, baby. There's a lot of people
here in the crowdboard on it. You can danceer me,
So put your hands on my body and swing that
ground for me.

Speaker 5 (01:56:20):
Baby.

Speaker 30 (01:56:21):
You know I love her when the music start but
coming strip that down for me.

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 39 (01:56:44):
You know I love it when the music start becoming
Strip that down for me, baby. There's a lot of
people here in the crowdboard on it. You can danceer me,
So put your hands on my body and swing that
ground for me.

Speaker 5 (01:56:56):
Baby.

Speaker 30 (01:56:57):
You know I love it when the music stive but coming.
Strip that down for me.

Speaker 5 (01:57:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:57:03):
Comest that down for me.

Speaker 29 (01:57:05):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah nothing, go strip that for me,
yeah yeah yeah yeah if you strip that down for me,
yeah yeah yeah yeah, strip that for me, yeah yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
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