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February 19, 2025 116 mins

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 20th of February - More than 9 billion of New Zealanders' money is invested in companies causing harm to people, animals and the environment, some allegedly ethical charity suggests. Do you care? Isn't it your moral duty to save as much money as you can for your retirement so as not to become a burden on anyone, or do you also have to pretend to save the world at the same time?  

Then the boys talk about spending time on your phone at work after a Queenstown fencing company boss ordered a worker off his phone. 

And to finish up - is Brad Pitt the greatest ever actor? 

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Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Afternoon's podcast, number seventy one and phenomenal, haven't we've
done this year? And we'll just took that one, number
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
That's a lot of podcasts.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Great, great show today. Certainly there's a lot on.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
It, but it ends up in a furious hour of
rating the Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hunks controversial and man omen Yeah, did we get some
texts and phocals on that?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, Lombard, let's just say listen to the end.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
But let's just say if Brad Pitt is one of
the people listening, you're gonna have your heart, bro.

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You're gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1 (01:02):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hello to you, welcome into the show. Hope you're having
a great afternoon. We certainly aren't getting Maddie.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, a Tyler, how are you today?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Fantastic for a Thursday, and we've got a doozy of
a show for you after three point thirty. Brad Pitt
is apparently in the country somewhere, maybe in Auckland, maybe
in Queensdown, shooting a film. But the broader question we're
going to put to you is is Brad Pitt the
biggest actor of this generation?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Or is he the best? Who are the best actors
of our generation? Because Brad Pitt's been in a whole
lot of movies. We're going to talk about this today
around out of time, but he is he better than
Tom Hanks?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Is he more.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Significant than Robert de Niro? Yeah, that's a tough one
to argue. Yukuin Phoenix. Obviously, Yukwin Phoenix isn't a crazy man. Yeah,
he's generally a pretty good actor, but you wouldn't want
to have to talk to him. Leonardo DiCaprio, Denzel Washington,
Now that's a great actor.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
He is a very good actor and consistent as well.
Because you could argue Brad He's been in some fantastic
films in the nineties, But I think he's been at
his best the last ten years. But we'll raise that
question after three thirty. After three o'clock, are we just
a massive nation of complainers? A few stories that hit
the headlines this week, of course, the wannaker McDonald's not
getting the go ahead, a bunch of people in Naseby,

(02:23):
and nothing against Naseby, but they said no thanks to
a big solar farm nearby that community. And then a
pushback from the Salwyn District Council with a new development
saying that future homeowners should be able to complain about
it artillery range that is in the vicinity.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
We're a nation of complainers. After two o'clock Should you
be able to use your phone at work? Can your
boss tell you get off your phone? If what percentage
of your day? Should you be allowed to be on
your phone? This is after a Queenstand fencing company. A
boss told a young employee to get off his phone
and there's been it's all been brought up in the
employment court. So should your boss be able to tell
you off the phone? And should you be on your

(03:02):
phone at all if you're on the payroll?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yep, that's going to be a good discussion. After two o'clock.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
But right now you're always on your phone, Tyler. But
the gioscy phone you don't even turn off. If you're
listening to the show, you'll hear Tyler's phone bing.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
The Boss hasn't even said anything at the moment. I've
been speaking about beings. I'm the boss, remember those beings
and when we started the show. But that is going
to be a good discussion after two o'clock, because right now,
do you care where your key we Savior funds are invested?
This is on the back of a survey by Mindful Money.
They found more than nine billions, nine billion rather of

(03:35):
New Zealander's money has been invested in companies causing harm
to people, animals and the environments.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, that seems a little bit asked to me one
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two. If
you want to text us that you have to pick
a key we saver, and then people are askling you
to pick a key we saver with some provisos. I mean,
we're all working hard enough, we get these alarmist messages
and how much we have to save for our retirement.
Sometimes yet two million, one million, who's going to be
able to have a million most people not people in

(04:01):
New Zealand. And on top of that, these people are saying, no,
it's not just saving for your retirement and not being
a burden on your family or the state you retire.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Also also it has to be ethical.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, let's run through where some of this money is
being invested. According to my Mindful Money, So human rights
violations two billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
But who defines these?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Well, they would include labor rights violations, war and conflict,
breaches of business ethics which cause harm in public safety issues,
public safety issues, that's a weird one.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean all those things is all in the definition,
isn't it?

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Animal cruelty?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Mindful Money s data showed one point six billion of
KI SABER funds were invested in companies which, whether deliberately
or through negligence, cause harm, suffering or distress to animals. Well,
what about the five hundred grams of prime beef New
Zealand bf I A last night. I mean that's cruelty animals?
Are they including that in it? Or what's cruelty to animals?

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Environmental harm seven hundred million dollars is invested in companies
involved in environmentally damaging activities like deforestation, the use of
highly as it has pested asides, palm oil production, and
genetically modified organisms. I thought we were kind of okay
with GMOs.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Now, Yeah, and there are these people that are saying
that you can't invest your kiwisaver and stuff. What clothes
are they wearing, what phones are they using, what kind
of cars are they driving?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
You know what I mean? Like, so it's just on
your kisaber that you have to you have to zero
in on things that are supposedly bad for the environment.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
But I'm looking through this list here, animal cruelty. I'm
going to pick up on that because you love animals.
I love animals, and I think this line here that
if they are deliberately are deliberately causing harm, suffering, or
distress to animals. I mean maybe the distressed part is
a bit too much, but I wouldn't if my money
has been invested in a company that is deliberately pouring

(05:50):
things over rabbits and monkeys and mice while still that
there's no pain, medication or anything else. You know, cosmetic
companies they exist out there. I would have a problem
with it. It's absolutely problem.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You think that's one point six billion is going into
people pouring shampoo into bunny's eyes.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Do you think that's what it is? No?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
But if I found that that was the so I
wouldn't want to be associated with that company.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, okay, all right, good on you. Well, aren't you
just a better person than other people that are just
saving for their retirement and worried about how they're going
to feed themselves until until they die?

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Do you care where your
money is invested? Look, it's a fear point that if
it's legal there and it's making money, what is the problem.
Nine two ninety two is the text number. Love to
hear from you on this one. Some great techs coming through.
It is twelve past one.

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News talks There B. It is quarter past one and
we're chatting about key we Saver investments or investments in general.
Do you care where your key we saver money is
invested as long as it's making money?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, I know that I don't her Doraine, What are
your thoughts on this?

Speaker 8 (07:13):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (07:13):
Yeah, I do care, But I'm not an idealist. I mean,
the reality is we need petrol, we need gas, we
need all these fossil fuels right now. You know, idealists
still get on buses, trains and drive somewhere, so they
use the facilities and keep me banks another step onto that.
So not an idealist, but weapons, cruelty, people trafficking, you

(07:35):
know those really really disgusting things that aren't actually acceptable
anywhere anyway. So I mean, you've got to be pragmatic,
you've got to be you know, smart. Well, what else
can you do? You can take things down to the
nitty gritty and protest about this or don't like this. Yeah,

(07:58):
idealism is great for young people. When I was young,
I was an idealist, not over the top, but you
know it's great because it keeps us in check. We
have to think about what we're doing, that's right. You know,
where did that you know, where did that meat come from?

Speaker 5 (08:11):
That?

Speaker 9 (08:12):
Was it animal treated cruelly or whatever? Great idealism holds
us to check. But then there's reality of life would
stop as we know it if we stopped accepting petrol
or gas or you know a lot of things in life.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, And it.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Seems to me a little bit, And I wonder what
your thoughts on this door and is it a luxury belief?
Like when everything's sorted out and you're in a position
and you know that your your retirement's going to be okay,
then you could maybe start thinking about where you know,
where the money was. But if you're just worried about

(08:52):
being able to survive as a retiree, then it's pretty
harsh for me. It seems like you're lackering guilt on
people that are just trying to get.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
By, And it is a luxury idealism? Is a luxury
you're a starving person? Or where did that come from?
Was the animal treated fully? Or I'm in a freezing
cold environment and I skin an animal to keep warm more?
You know, no, I don't want that lovely, lovely coat
because it's made by animal or it's synthetic, or you know,
we would be naked as well. The synthetic, you know,

(09:23):
and and pollution, the micro feeds, plastics and things. You know,
the reality is we've got to eat and work and
travel and do all these things mitigation as best we can.
No way the world's going to meet the fossil fuel
reduction time. We're not there yet. We need a lot
more time to get things in place. But you're giving
it a go. You're trying. You know, that's all you

(09:46):
can do. You do your best. And people outside protesting
outside these banks. I mean, the people working in the
banks are doing their best. The people investing their money
are doing the best. Everybody's doing their best. As you
know it. It's a big corporates that push things on
to people. So you're mindful, but you're not over the top.
I mean, it's a funny way to live, really, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Case said Dora.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
And can I ask you, and you don't have to
answer this because it's personal financial information, but have you
locked into into any of your investments and to see
if they're their ethical?

Speaker 9 (10:19):
Well, yeah, we haven't got a lot, but I hadn't
looked into it to see if they're ethical. But I've
looked in to see what's the greatest return I could
have through sight And that's the honesty. Yeah, you know,
I'm the last of baby boomers, just reduced work. But
you want me to pay for my retirement. But you

(10:40):
don't want me to get the maximum return on my
money because it doesn't sit your lifestyle. You can't have
your cake and eat it as long as it's not
sugar free cake. And you know you're not using too
much better and your heart's right. I mean, we could
go really crazy on limiting ourselves in life, or we
could help out. And you know what older people do,
as you, they consider how much they're putting in. They

(11:03):
consider their children and their grandchildren next, and then and
then they will be probably considering where does this come from.
I just trust that my key we savor, has got
a whole lot of people that aren't devoid of of
passion and aren't devoid of you know that they're not
going to do the best and they're not going to
destroy the world as we know it in order to
give me my little return.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Okay, or I thank you so much for your call, Doreen.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
And it's also what.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
People define, so that these people are defining it. And
of course, boy, if you want to, if you want
to invest ethically, and it sounds like you do, tired,
it sounds like you've done all one to eighty from
when we first talked about this. Yep, that you you
think that it's important to invest what is defined by
these people as ethically. But you know, I do a
full order on someone that's suggesting that I'd do an

(11:49):
order on, as I said before, what they're driving, what they're.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Wearing, what their house has made out.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
There's there's a lot of unethical stuff according to these
definitions of unethical that I'm sure all these people are doing.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, thank you for bringing that up, because I've just
had a look on this Mindful Money website and they
break it down, and I've looked at my particular fund
and there's nothing there onimal cruelty. But this is where
I question what they would consider sor they've called this
human rights violations right, and there's a wee mark. They
call it public safety on meta platforms, which is Facebook.
I disagree with that. I mean, as someone that uses Facebook,

(12:22):
how can I then turn around and say I don't
want any money invested in meta platforms? That to me
would be hypocrisy. So this is why what.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Are they saying that for? What's what's investment on meta?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
So public safety? I'm just going to read this Meta
is the world's largest online social network, consisting of the
Facebook app, Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp, and many features surrounding these products.
The company has face several investigations and legal action link
to privacy related allegations, including its handling of user data
and breaches of user privacy. Meta has also been criticized
for its poor governance model, as well as allowing its

(12:53):
platform in non English speaking countries to be used to
incite violence.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
See so they've come with I mean, they've got their
biases of what is ethical and what's not ethical. So
before you follow what they do, you want to look
heavily into what they're talking about there, because you know,
maybe you don't want to be investing in Meta, but
you're still using a lot of people are using Facebook,
so would you if you would, you just have to
pull out a Facebook as well. So I don't want

(13:19):
to be involved with them ethically at all. I mean,
it's probably a good thing for you not being on
Facebook and Instagram, but you know what I'm saying, it's
like the.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Hypocrisy is rife. You'd have to if you're going to
take that stance, And I am on Facebook, So I
don't necessarily, I sarioly agree with their finding there. When
it comes to the meta platforms, A charity on Facebook,
mindful money, Yeah, I have a lock No my good points. Again,
they've mentioned Uber technologies, so they say are labor rights
violations and let's bring up I use Uber all the time.
Uber is a ride and food delivery service provider. Evidence

(13:48):
show the company has been prioritizeding revenue growth overdriver wealth
there and user safety as Uber considers it strivers to
be contractors. Dot dot dot dot dot again. You know
it's spurious and obviously my particular fund invested in fossil fuels.
I drive a car. How can I be against petrol
cump He's a white driver car. But love to hear

(14:09):
from you on this one. I had one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two
ninety two is the text number. It is twenty two
past one.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 11 (14:23):
If I heard Adrian or correctly, fifty points will come
with another couple of cuts shortly, and at that point,
all things being equal, we are in neutral territory. Adrian
Ore's with us. The banks have passed on some but
not all. Is that acceptable or not?

Speaker 12 (14:35):
The banks need to do better.

Speaker 13 (14:37):
They need to look at.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Their own margins and chase and compete for customers much
more vigorously.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Those profit margins you talked about.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
We saw a couple of results in the last week
or so and I always compare the Australian number two
the New Zealand number. The New Zealand numbers always hired.
Why hasn't that been addressed so we get a better deal?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean spot on.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
The biggest challenge is income streams don't disrupt themselves, but
they need disrupting.

Speaker 11 (14:58):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
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Speaker 3 (15:03):
Good afternoon, twenty five past one, and we're talking about
key we Savor investments. Do you here where your key
we saver is invested. It's on the back of a
survey by Mindful Money that claims nine billion dollars of
New Zealand's money is invested in companies causing harm to people,
animals and the environment. You can ever look at your
own key we Save a fund on their website and

(15:24):
make your own determination. They list it all out and
they make their claims about why they feel a particular
company is breaking one of these ethical standards.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
So you've got the charity Mindful Money right, and they're saying,
did you say social harm was one of their things?
That if you're investing in companies such as Meta in
social media, then that's part of their social social harm
and that's what part of the money they make up
nine billion in New Zealander's money is invested in companies
causing harm.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
The flagged Meta platform.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Jim, Yeah, and yet here.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I am and I'm pretty sure this is them, right,
Mindful Money ever wondered what your key we saver gets?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
This is?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is on Facebook. Meet Blivia coal Mine. She'd like
to thank you for your key we saver money.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
So they're on Meta, so they think this is a
social harm. They don't think they're being on Facebook is
not helping Facebook make money.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
That's how Facebook makes its money. You're driving try and
drive engagement. You're not doing a great job. You've got
one hundred eight followers, but you're one point nine k followers,
one hundred and eight following.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, you know how we so.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
But if you're serious about, you know, making ethical changes
in the world. Then you've got to stand by that
and live your life to that same degree. Right now,
if you are genuinely concerned about what Meta is doing
to the world, then you remove yourself from Facebook and
Instagram and refuse to do business for them.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Because you're the product.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
And they'd probably argue, well, the good of what we
do leads to more people.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Following our cause, so there, it's worthwhile.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
But that's that's you know, that just means it's okay
for us but not others, you know, so we're allowed
to be on Facebook whilst we're counting Facebook investing and
Meta as being an evil, but.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
As a little bit better than nothing. That's what I'm
sure they'd claim, just as you said there that by
using Meta, even though they've said that it is a
public safety company, a risk to public safety and unethical,
that they were saying by using that and trying to
get the information out there as much as possible, that
they are doing some good.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
And yeah, they're anti fossil fuels, but it's important for
them to drive their vehicles into work. And look, they're
anti whatever, but potentially they meet if you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh, the flagged contact energy as well, I like contact energy.
I wan one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call quack text. Then we've got the headlines coming up. Guys,
I dumped AMP as my key we Saver investor because
they don't invest in fossil fuels. I work for an
oil company that key we save. A company I moved
to were reluctant to give me the details on who

(17:57):
they were invested with when I found it, they found
out rather they were invested in fossil fuels. I went
with them instead.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
From Paul, okay, here you go. So he's the exact
opposite of mindful money.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
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(19:20):
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Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about ethical
investments in New Zealand on the back of research by
an outfit called Mindful Money, who claim that nine billion
dollars of our money New Zealander is money is investing
in companies who are somewhat unethical.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Unethical according to them, Yeah, yeah, but do you care?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Is it your job to think about ethical investments or
is your job just to save for your retirement so
you can look after yourself and don't become a burden
on society.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Or your family.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I mean, it's pretty harsh, isn't it, when you've got
to both save for your retirement.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
And I actually hear from people on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
If you are coming up to retirement, you're five years
away or one year away or whatever, whether you think
you've got enough, How much money do you think you need?
I mean, I saw I was reading something in the
paper the other day where they were saying, you need
a million dollars? Yeah, how many people are gonna have
a million dollars when they retire.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
It's terrifying those stories, and they keep changing it. At
one stage it was two million, You're gonna need two
million dollars for retirement, then a million then. I mean,
so I read that and I get scared.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
So if you're worried about eating cat food when you retire,
then are you also going to worry about the ethical
nature of you? It feels a little bit like a luxury,
a sort of a larxury attitude.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, how much do you think you'd actually, I mean,
it's a hard one to determine how much you're going
to need for retirement, but yeah, again, when you read
those stories and say you're gonna need a million bucks,
I just don't know if that's true. Love to hear
from you, though, on one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Now, Dean, you're from the Responsible Investment Association of Australasia,
so I'm sure you might have an opinion on.

Speaker 14 (20:58):
This thank Cure of Boys. Yeah, no, I certainly do.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So let's talk about the survey by Mindful Money. And
as I mentioned earlier, our Dean, I looked at my
own can We Save a fund and looked at what
they determined to be unethical and the line was pretty Bluarry,
I've got to say with some of those things.

Speaker 14 (21:18):
Yeah, Like, I think the important thing to remember is
that ess and people's values are very personal, and so
I think where you do really have to be careful
is understanding the fact that as an individual, what you
value and what is important to you is going to
be really different to somebody else. So you know what
you consider to be important, whether it's animals, whether it's

(21:39):
a environment, whether it's social outcomes and making sure that
people who can't afford it have got access to healthing
to housing and healthcare, those are important to you as
an individual rather than things that I think we can
sort of make claims or assumptions about on behalf of
other people.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
And do you flip that on the other way as
the service provisers as well, should they make it clear
if they've made ethical decisions.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
We've had a few texts.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
From people that found out that they're they're suppliers were
the key receiver scheme was not investing in fossil fuels
and that wasn't something that they knew about.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
So equally the other way, do you think it's important.

Speaker 14 (22:20):
Definitely, yeah, And I think you need to and a
full declaration on the COSA of the Responsible Investment Association.
So we do work with a lot of the q
savit providers and banks and fund managers in New Zealand,
and I think what we'd always say is absolutely essential
that if somebody is giving you their money to invest
in their retirement, that you're being really clear with them

(22:42):
about what it is you are and aren't doing when
it comes to putting those investments. But the other thing
I'd be really clear about is that I think while
I totally understand some of the comments that have been
made around being a luxury. There's really no evidence that
supports the idea that you have to choose between investing

(23:03):
in a way that aligns to your values and making
lots of money for your retirement. There are loads of
good funds available in New Zealand right across the world
that are investing in ways that are investing in energy transitions,
investing in social housing funds also providing fantastic returns that
are helping people retire at the same time. So I

(23:24):
think it's really important to keep that in mind when
you're talking about responsible investment as well.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, so how much can people, you know, purpose build
there there in their key we saver investment Because as
you say, people have different ethical beliefs, So some person
might be really focused on animal cruelty but not really
care about money being invested in social media, which is

(23:48):
listed as social harm by these people. Can you can
you control it that much? Because I didn't actually know,
because I've just pressed, I've just got my key saver
from my bank and I just packed what growth what
growth setting I wanted? But can you can you can
you can you put it together right down to that
kind of detail?

Speaker 14 (24:09):
You can't go that granulate in New Zealand with the
kiwisaver settings. If there are specific if there are specific
things that are important to you, you can choices that
will be much more strongly aligned to in particular things
like environment, friends, like animal cruelty. New Zealanders, there's quite

(24:30):
a big discrepancy between I think the number of people
who think that cruelty is really important and the number
of fund managers who are providing specific products that sort
of tailor make that. But what I would say is
if you if you do have a key Saber fund,
then you're interested in like, you know, one what they're
investing in, but two maybe getting it, getting your money

(24:52):
specifically moving towards one area or another. You can either
look for a product that's already doing it, or you know,
give your keys, have a provider, send them an email.

Speaker 13 (25:03):
Right there.

Speaker 14 (25:04):
There are customer driven organization that makes money out of
you a customer for them, and so like any business
that has customers, they respond to customer feedback. And if
you call them and start asking why they're investing in
certain aspects, that's how you actually bring about the change
that you want to see.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a good reason for this team
but why can't we determine where a key we save
the money is going down to the grainy ends as
and we get to dictate which investments we're picking up
rather than just an investment manager.

Speaker 14 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean it's a complex, you know, scenario, like
when you're dealing with a global investment scheme, because about
one hundred and ten billion dollars sitting in care we
say it globally like there are I think probably the
important thing to realize is that to have the amount
of knowledge for you to be able to do that
in a way that is going to continue to allow

(26:01):
you to invest really intelligently, to do it really well.
Like these guys, they're experts in what they do. Like
everybody could simply sit at home and invest their money
in a way that was really that was clever and
made you lots of money. And if it was simple,
then we wouldn't need banks and we wouldn't need serfer
funds or kisaber providers or asset manages. It it's what

(26:24):
they do for a living, you know, so they're really
good at it. I think in an ideal world, and
what New Zalands has done a really good job of
is putting some baselines in place, things like nuclear exposures
and you know, controversial or ballistic weapons, things that you know,
no New Zealander is going to want to see in
their investments. But I think there's always for us to

(26:45):
continue improving that, and the more sort of kiwis put
more pressure on their kivy cyber providers to do that,
I think that's really helpful. But it's also really important
to highlight that even in a fossil fuel instance, for example,
you can't just look at what is sitting in a
holding and decide whether it's good or bad like, so
you can be invested in a fossil fuel company quote

(27:06):
unquote that is also a leading provider of renewable energy
because in a lot of instances, companies that are producing
coal fired power planes are also producing wind turbines and
solar panels. And so.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
The question is what would be a non fossil fuel company.
Every company uses fossil fuels, everyone drives to work, everyone,
So that's kind of a hard thing to define. Would
you say, as as a company, say, if you're listing,
this is just an example, So if you're saying that
there's nine billion, you're not saying.

Speaker 14 (27:39):
This, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
No, But if someone is saying.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
That that that that meta causes social harm and you're
listening that as an unethical, unethical investment, do you think
in this in this industry, that you as a company
should stay off those platforms. I'm not saying that you
at Responsible Investment Association, but just to see the problems
are you do you have to be as holy as

(28:03):
you are as you're saying other people need to be
in their investments.

Speaker 15 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (28:07):
I think it comes down again to you and your values.
And I think, like what I'd say is, I guess look,
I go to the supermarket, I take my own bags.
If I try wherever I cannot to buy things that
are wrapped in plastic, I fucking buy them and put
them into a bag. That doesn't mean that when I
walk out of the supermarket, I don't have any Plaska
on my groceries.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 14 (28:26):
Because some of the things that I love to eat
a wrapped in plastic, and that's what I do. That
doesn't mean that me not know, not taking it that
extra plastic doesn't help. So I think it's all i'd
say is like you know it's not enough to just
go Actually, you know, I can't make all the difference
in the world. Therefore I won't even try.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, it sounds to me, Dean, and I could be wrong.
You correct me if I'm wrong, But you're coming from
the idea of a non judgmental approach to this. You're
really saying people need to know what they're investing in
and know that they've got options as opposed to judging.

Speaker 14 (29:00):
Actually, right, Yeah, and there's totally you know, there's totally
lots of people who know and like Tesla is a
great example of a company that has made a huge
amount of environmental impact. Positively, I should say sorry, in
terms of what they've done with evs. Right, they have
terrible government structures and there's a whole lot of reasons
why they don't do the right thing by their staff

(29:22):
or And now, if you're an individual for sitting there
and the climate and the climate, you know, climate change
is the biggest factor for you, and you know you're
sitting at home and it gives you anxiety. You actually
don't care about the labor rights. Not sorry, I shouldn't
say you don't care, but it's not as important to you,
so you want to be invested in a company that
is driving change from an environmental standpoint. But everybody's got

(29:46):
their own values and it's important that there are investment
opportunities that are available for everybody, no matter what their
values are, and also no matter what they're trying to
achieve with their investments from a financial outcome.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Genuinely, Dean a quick question here, but what funds that
would be considered more ethical or they don't invest in
companies that are unethical? Do you think their returns are
just as good as other funds.

Speaker 14 (30:11):
I'd steer away from using the words the call because,
as I say, that's very like it's a very hard
to define terms. What I can tell you for a
fact is that we look at what we would call
responsibly invested funds that in New Zealand and Australia are
invested with what we would consider to be leading in practice,
which means they're invoting those really significant harms. They're not

(30:35):
investing in things like nuclear weapons, ballistics, missiles, things like that.
They're also being really transparent with the way that they
do invest and so saying you know, we're invested in
these companies telling their customers about what they're invested in
and why they're invested in them those funds, and so
we go through and certify that three hundred and fifty

(30:57):
funds across Australasia about more than half of the key
we favor market. And those funds that do that perform
at least as well not better than some of the
average markets. And that's aligned, that aligns to all of
the evident squably as well.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
All right, thank you so much for you call.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Dean is the COSEO of Responsible Investment Association Australasia.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Really appreciate your call.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
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Speaker 2 (31:41):
We're talking about ethical key WE Saver funds. Mindful Money
has said that nine billion of New Zealander's money is
invested in companies causing harm to people, animals and environment
and they're an ethical investment charity. But when you look
through I mean, do you agree with what they decide
is ethical or not. All feels a little bit judgmental
to me. This text here from Aaron, Nah, I want

(32:03):
money for my wife and one retirement in thirty years time.
I'm not going to listen to a lecture from a
chicken little crying about the sky falling. And we've invested
heavily in oil, for instance, and have done really well
out of it since twenty twenty one. If we haven't,
may have made that investment. It would make zero difference
to the planet. That's from Aaron as I said. Yeah,
I remember with those barrels of oil, had to give

(32:25):
them away, They had to pay people to take the oil.
I mean a thing in that time if you pumped
a lot of money, because there's no way fossil fuels
weren't going to go back. But if you were looking
to make some money investing in oil around twenty twenty
one was a fossil fields was a good way to go.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You missed a trick there. Yeah, this Texas says, guys
to use a cricket analogy. I care how much, not
how the scorebook doesn't have pictures, Nor do I care
how my key saver balance increases. I get the argument
that it is a rather privileged position to say I'm
not going to invest in contact energy or meta platforms
because I don't agree with them, and if I lose money,

(32:59):
so be it. There's very few people who would be
in that position. But if you believe in that stuff enough,
and you're not on Facebook because you hate meta platforms
and you don't when I'm investment well mindful.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Money are on Facebook they listed as a social hard.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
They certainly are, and your fund is making money, then
fair play to you. But that is the difference, right
If you were just making these ethical, responsible decisions and
you're losing money, That's not a position many people can
be in.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well, When I bought shares for my kids a while back,
quite a few years ago, and I let them up
to growth for a bit, and then I got them
to decide their funds, and one of my sons, who
quite cares about the environment stuff, he invested heavily in
a global water fund and a few other things that
he thought looked felt nice, and I was like, he's
actually done really well, dad, good honor disappointing. He set

(33:48):
himself up for the future quite nicely, Well done that man, David.
Your thoughts on investments.

Speaker 16 (33:56):
Yeah, Look, the way I look at it is, on
average you're going to make about seven percent every year
with your investments. So your fees are the absolute number
one most important thing. So even if you have to
pay one or two percent more, that is going to
make a huge sense on the amount of money that

(34:17):
you're left with at the end of twenty five years.
That one thing is to really worry about the fees.
There's and foremost. So if you say I'm going to
do this ethical fund, you're probably going to have to
pay more fees for it. Plus I also know I've
heard this before. I was with a medical assurance society

(34:41):
for a while and they said, oh, you don't actually
lose any money if you invest effectally, And I just
find it hard to believe this. Why would someone why
would they even set up companies to do uninstill things
if it wasn't profitable. I think people.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It's a good point.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
And anytime you restrict yourself away from whatever happens to
be the highest earning sector at any given point, then
just by definition, then you are going to have some
percentage less ability to move into areas if they happen
to un ethical practices, happen to be the biggest serious if.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 16 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So the other thing too, I mean, well,
I just I'm a real strong believer in passive in
the investments. I just put you can put your round here,
we say then, and I don't prove super life. We've
put it all on the SP five hundred. It's just
up the that models that and the UH returns have

(35:43):
been absolutely phenomenal. And and I think another thing that
you get as well, because I think New Zealand's economy
is going to go down the toilet because we're so
interested in investing in properties that we want money to
be kind of cheap, you know what I mean, leaning

(36:03):
out loans, E set pressure to keep the o c
R low, and I think that's just going to put
us in the possession where that when you're investments, you're
not gonna make much money. So I think the keep
going down. So you also get a return if you
invest in five hundreds with a lot of our returners
just been because the American dollars with just so much

(36:26):
more than the New Zealand dollars, so you make money
that way as well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, someone made the point before those we don't have
the time to follow the ins and outs and absolutely
be across the financial markets and diversify our own portfolios.
So those managed funds where you have the smartest people
in the world running it and they mitigate risk, I
mean you have to be really running it. I used

(36:54):
to day trade and got really excited about it and
was doing really, really well, and then in recent years
I've just gone no investments and a managed fund. Find
a good one, and you may not get the outsized earnings,
but you also don't suddenly team yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Hey, thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (37:10):
People.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
What's no, no, no, no, you go David Oh, I.

Speaker 16 (37:15):
Was just say Frank Bogel, he's the guy who started
up Vanguards, and he was strongly disagree with that argument
that you need to have the greatest smartest people. Really
you might as well, you know, you just just do
it completely passively and then you don't have to pay
these people huge amounts of money and they can they

(37:35):
could say they never out to the SP five hundred. Yeah,
over the long term.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Called David being on And that was the same mistake
I made that I I did companies that I like,
like Tesla and like Airport, and of course I caught
the wrong entrance the market and I my my shares
plummeted and value well, one of.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
My sons went for Disney and Netflix shares. I think
the other one was going for manage water funds.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Anyway, all right, oh, yen eighty is the number to
call it? Seven to two.

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Speaker 2 (38:25):
I wish my money was invested in whoever was making
javelin missiles back at the start of the Ukraine War.
I'd be raking it in. So that person probably isn't
working for mindful money.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Right, Thank you very much for all your phone calls
and ticks on that. And I think, as a lot
of people are alluding to, you've just got to do
your best when you're investing and working towards your retirement.
You can't be in this pretty privileged position to say
I don't like weapons and I don't like agony to
human people because.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You're ethically investing that the rest of your life is
an ethical.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, exactly right. Coming up after two o'clock, we're going
to have a chat about having your phone on you
at work on the back of a young fella who
got fired after he had his cell phone on him
and his boss got pretty annoyed. That is coming up
very shortly. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number. Call nineteen ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 2 (40:08):
The next topic, I've just been proven wrong twice badly
so David.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
I was talking to David, and he was talking about.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Indexed funds YEP, which is basically pulling money from investors
and using it by stocks that mirror a specific market.
You know, the SMP five hundred that's that he was
talking about. Is called passive investment, a passive investment strategy.
And I was saying, yeah, but you always want to
go for the managed funds, right, And then I looked
at my stocks and he's totally right that passive one's
going a lot better than my managed ones.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
And the other thing I was wrong about us.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I was making a joke about how when I set
up my sons and an investment, one of them bought
shares in Netflix because he liked Netflix. Yeah, and then
I was laughing at him. And then I've just gone
back in after a few texts, and it's like he's
been doing very well on Netflix, his silly investing, just
because he thought, hey, look there's Netflix there, I can

(40:59):
invest in Netflix.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yep, I watch Netflix. I like Netflix.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Up two hundred and nine percent in the last two years.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yes, So thank you very much for those TIS.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Tried to shame, to shame my son, and he's proved
me wrong and tried to shame my other son for
investing in a water index Global water Index, and he's
done really well there.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
So just give your investment money to your boy. He
knows what he's doing clearly.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
And to that call of David, he's totally right about
the SMP five hundred.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, very good. That's why we love this show right
on to this topic, which is going to be a doozy.
So boss who told worker to get off his phone
ordered to pay fifteen hundred bucks. This is a Queen's
down fencing company. They gave an inexperienced man a trial
run to see how he went, with a view on
taking them on full time. But the man's use of
his cell phone at work began to anger his boss

(41:45):
fair enough to leading to a heated argument and the
man walking off the job less than two weeks into
his trial. He then went to the Employment Relations Authority
and they awarded him fifteen hundred bucks. But forget about
the fifteen hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
So the fifteen hundred bucks wasn't anything to do with
getting told to get off the phone. That was to
do with they hadn't they hadn't put together a contract
for the first ninety days an employment contract.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Right correct.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, But there was a back and forth out getting
gelled to get off the phone, And that really sort
of is the question, can your boss tell you didn't
ever be on the phone, Because often when I'm here,
I lock up and Tyler's just on his phone. I
know he's doing scrolling through bikini shots and Instagram or something.
I don't know what you're doing over there, you're looking
at what, But it just seems that when you're at
work and you're being paid, you should be working. So

(42:27):
what is a reasonable amount of time I'd like to
hear from bosses and people that are at work. What's
a reasonable amount of time to spend on your phone?
Because because sure, if someone you know, your kid at
home has got an emergency, you might have to deal
with that, or there's all these kind of things, a
bit of Edmund here and there. But what's a reasonable
time to spend on your phone? Because how do you

(42:47):
spend This guy here, I think, and I might be
reading this wrong, but was admitted to spending an hour
of his working day on the phone each day.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well, that is crazy. I mean, if the boss sees
get off your phone, you've got to get off your phone.
That is the end of story. I mean, if you
want to go to the bathroom and I don't know,
do whatever you're going to do, scroll on Facebook, Instagram, YadA, yah, yadda.
Maybe that is the time you could do it. You
could do it on your break.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
As long as it doesn't extend the length of your ablution,
because how do they know, you said, if you're you're
in there on your phone, sitting so long that your
lead goes dead and fall over getting out of the bathroom,
fall out of the portoloo.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
We can't extend out time. I wish I could because
I was trying to nail connections. But yeah, I mean,
And I've.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Got another side topic on this, which I think is
sad when you see work sites that now at the
break instead of people sitting around talking and the work site,
they're all just lined up on their phone, so no
one talks to each other anymore.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I think that's a really sad part.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
So I'd love to hear about that from from trade's
or you know, people that take a break together, whether
everyone's just sitting around in their phone rather than communicating
over their lunch breaks.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call? Nine two ninety two. What about office workers?
Because I see it in this office where you walk
around and Facebook will be up, and some here could
argue they are doing that for work purposes, but we
know they're not doing it for work purposes.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
So do you owe your boss to be working the
whole time you're getting paid. Yeah, absolutely, what about what
about just going to get a coffee? Like what percentage?
I mean, back in the day, people used to smoke.
Used to have a mess of advantage, didn't they because
they were out all the time. Often in the bosses
are getting a promotion having a cigarette with the boss.
I mean I rose to the top through smoking with bosses.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Since I've given up smoking, I've just sunk off the cliff.
But you know how much of your time is your
as all the time at work belonged to your employee.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, I had a boss and I've never forgotten this.
And he called at this wasn't quite on paraphrasing here,
but he called it screw around time. And he said,
there's always screw around time in the day. But as
long as you get the work done, I need you
to get done. I'm okay with that. And I always
remembered that, and I kind of like that philosophy. As
long as you were doing what you need to do
to get the job done, then there is obviously some

(45:02):
time that may you may need to go to a
doctor's appointment, or maybe you've got to go get a Here,
you negotiate that with your boss or in this case,
you want to have we scroll on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Well, hard to quantify in some jobs, but yeah, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're an employer and you
think your workers are on their phones or social media
too much, and how you deal with it, And if
you're an employee and you think you have the right
to be on your phone a certain amount of time
the day, we'd love to hear from you as well.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

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Speaker 3 (45:43):
News Talk said, be good afternoon. We're talking about having
your cell phone in your workplace. Is it acceptable to
be on your phone for any length of time while
you're on the clock. That's on the back of a
Queen'stown fencing employee who was given as marching orders after
being on his phone for sometimes an hour per working day.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
He has a text on nine two nine two, got
at drove me crazy. I run a roofing company. Just
drove up to sight and my boys are sitting up
there on their phones. Another one says, ridiculous. This is
the opposite opinion. I work for you. You don't own
me if I want to be on my phone or
be on my phone. I'm not your slave. And zero
time in your phone is acceptable to a workplace. What
are these emergencies? I work with this guy whose life
must be a living hell. He's got three or four

(46:28):
hours of emergencies a day.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Hey you Lynn?

Speaker 10 (46:34):
Hi?

Speaker 14 (46:35):
How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Very good? How are you you sound, chipper?

Speaker 17 (46:39):
Oh? Just a box of fluffies. You're in the many
are Toto and the beautiful sun shining, and the birds
are singing love me, And I'm not and I'm on
my phone.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
This is different. I mean you're communicating on your phone.
You're not doom scrolling.

Speaker 17 (46:55):
I'm also self employed.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
You are the boss of yourself.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Have you ever yelled at yourself of being on your
phone too much?

Speaker 8 (47:01):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (47:01):
Yes, those real, the terrible things you get hopped on them.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yeah, that'll suck your life, those reelsik.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
You just want more and more and more. Yeah anyway,
go Yeah. So going back to employees having their phones
at work. Have you ever been in a situation where
the employee is spending far too much time on Instagram?

Speaker 17 (47:25):
Well, I was working in a cast where we weren't
allowed our phones on until we had our break unless
it was an emergency like and then it had to
be on vibrate and if our phones went off during
work time, my boss got a little bit gary about it.
But I also was a tutor and for our adults,

(47:46):
And it's amazing how many people just can't go fifty
minutes without looking at their phones for some reason. So
if you're working for somebody, then you have break time.
If you can't handle not looking at your phone for
a couple of hours, then really you know you've got

(48:07):
you've got a problem. If your and if your boss
is paying you to work, you should be working.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
What if that person that's looking at their phone a
lot is also getting all the work done and you're
pretty happy with what they're providing for you, do you
still would you still be angry at them being on
their phone because you think, well, you could be doing more.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
But you know, if you're getting the job, if you're
getting the job.

Speaker 17 (48:29):
Done, well, if you're trying to make coffee and you're
and you're scrolling through reels as well, that's not a
happening thing. If you're trying to put caps on cows,
and it's not a happening thing either because you're going
to be stopping to look at your phone or wipe
your hand because they'll be covered in koshit before.

Speaker 14 (48:45):
You can actually social fine.

Speaker 17 (48:47):
Yeah, and if you're outside doing work in an attractor
where you're supposed to be concentrating on what you're doing,
it's like using your phone and driving on the road.
It shouldn't It shouldn't be happening.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
What of the jobs that are most being on your phone,
A lot's the most prevalent. Because this case we're talking
about it was a fenser so and he's working with
his boss, so the boss can see he's on the
phone when he's supposed to be doing it all the time.
We've had that text before from a roofer who's drive
driven up to sight and seeing that his boys are
on the roof on their phones. Office work, I think
office work is rife with people just being on social

(49:22):
media and not working.

Speaker 17 (49:24):
Yeah, well, how do you know if you've got if
you're in putting in your data and you're not concentrating,
then that's how you can end up having a cock
up Like there are people's rates got taken out twice
just lately in some council. How do you know it
wasn't a person in the office who wasn't concentrating when
they were putting and putting that information.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, I hope this still happens in workplaces where you
absolutely shouldn't be on your phone, but that you know
they make you put it in a locker before you start.
I'm thinking about factories obviously what you said. Then if
you're in a job where you have to drive that
they physically make you put your phone away during the workday,
I've got no problem.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
With that, yep.

Speaker 17 (50:05):
And I know on some outdoor jobs you do you
have to have a phone so that your boss can
contact you or it's a health and safety thing. But
you shouldn't be taking advantage of that either. And I
think a lot of a lot of sorry young people
think that they're fearly entitled now to do that. And

(50:28):
you know, because like that text message you got through
before about I can do what I like, you're not
You're not the boss of me sort of thing. Well,
that's a pretty duck attitude, you know.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
It's also not true that text thing ridiculously I work.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
For you, you don't know me if I want to
be on my phone or be on my phone. I'm
not your slave, which is basically another way of saying
you're not the boss of me, but you kind of
Are they the official?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Literally?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Are they possibly? Thank you so much for your call? Lynn,
This this Texas is good a guys. No phones allowed
in the workshop, too much of a distraction. Safety first,
that's from Craig Hi. Guys, matters right. I'm a trade
and smoker. These days is very different. Everyone's in silence
on their phones. Maybe the occasional life kind of sad.
If it's just me and the boss, there might be
a small amount of chat. It always gets out cut

(51:17):
off early though, due to the bloody phone ringing. I
call sorry, just another season. I call it no nocializing.
That cheers Kellum.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
That is the sad part about the trading smoko, because
they were I mean, the plumbers had some cracking stories.
Absolutely filthy you plumbers, but cracking stories, honestly cool.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Matt.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
If the boss said we're going to take your phone
away while you're on a here because we don't want
you to have it. Would you do it? Do I
have a bossy Listen, you're a slave.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
You're one of these slaves. Okay, I was flip that
on you. If I told you to get off your phone,
would you No?

Speaker 3 (51:51):
No, I love it so much. I'm on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Oh, think it'd be pretty egregious if we were just
sitting here on our phones trying to do our radio show.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call nineteen nineteen.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I mean, although, to be fair, our job does involve
asking people to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
jump on their phones, some of them while they're at work.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Yeah, so get your phone out of your locker and
give us a bars nineteen NINETI it's a text number.
It is twenty one bus.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Too, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
EDB, News Talks EDB very good afternoons. You were talking
about phones in the workplace on.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Host Tyler's just been looking up to see if I'm
the boss of him, he claims, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I was showing you my Instagram reels. I'm pretty cool
that on the back of this young feller who got
marching orders. He was part of a Queenstown fencing company
and the boss thought he was on his phone too much.
And I will say an added thing about this story
is that they gave this guy a shot. He was
an experience, gave him a trial run to see how
he was going to go, with a view on taking
him on the first time. The boss said, get off

(52:53):
your bloody fine it should have been it. It's so sorry, but.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
In your ninety trial ninety one, get on your phone.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Idiots.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Josh, you're on your phone right now at work?

Speaker 13 (53:04):
Yeah, sure, I made. I'm just driving along in the
track here. Yeah, not very sape mate. I'm not on
the road. I just obviously it's kins on what John
you're doing.

Speaker 12 (53:16):
Like my job.

Speaker 13 (53:17):
I'm not the boss, but I'm required to have my
phone on me twenty four to seven. That's just common scenes.
If you're scrolling, you're in the wrong. Yeah, we have
had a guy that was caught scrolling. There's probably more
of a smoke Poe time building site chat, but we've
had a guy called looking at some red sites. He

(53:40):
he was fight, Yeah, I think that is. Yeah. I
don't think he appealed it.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Because he was What kind of sights was he looking at?
Like blue material?

Speaker 13 (53:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:52):
At work? Yeah, I mean I don't think anyone could beg.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Yeah, that's dangerous behavior, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (53:57):
That is risky parked up in ad at the back
of the paddy. So yeah, a plan fake.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You can't wait till you get home, buddy, Come on mate, jesus.

Speaker 13 (54:09):
Yeah, well you got sent home.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
So he got sort there out there.

Speaker 13 (54:12):
But it's just common sense, mate, And I haven't seen it.
It's a young person's plane. You never see anyone above
the age of thirty five and my industry strolling their phone.
You just go and see it. Should person's game?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Should that be some sympathy for these people if they've
got an addiction, because a lot of people are just
completely addicted to their phone. They might even know that
they're on their phone. They're just sitting there trying to work.
Next thing you know, it's in their in their hand.
I mean, there's there any somebody for that. No, somebody, no, no.

Speaker 13 (54:45):
Somebody at all. It's just like you've got a job
to do you do it if you're getting distracted and
just work harder.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Do you think we're going to have to take the
road of what we did with our children and say
you can't have your phone on you anymore, put it
in your locker, you can't be trusted with it. We
know you're an adult, we're gonna have to treat you
like a child anyway because you can't step your phone
for more than fifteen minutes.

Speaker 13 (55:04):
They're an adustry dependent though, and say like things on
how much freeze one you've got on your own obviously,
and like will your house isn't there? And back too
they take the master. But yeah, I was just frustrating.

Speaker 18 (55:17):
OK.

Speaker 13 (55:17):
How when you see when you're working with people in
us constantly scrolling and you're the same. That's very annoying.
And I constantly see it from your twenty year olds.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
But it used to be used to be the smokers
that did that. The smokers are always constantly outside smoking.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
And taking out time. I saw this.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I saw the something you talk about jobs and who
can do it? And I saw a security guard out
the front of a jeweler standing there rotun gentleman on
his phone. The whole time this thing? Are you really
doing your job protecting this Michael Hill, Let's say, I'm
not sure if it was Michael Hill, Pescoes, whatever jewelry
store it was.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Are you really doing the job doing that?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
If you're just staring at your phone on reels, what
are you reagon about that one?

Speaker 13 (55:57):
Josh, No, not at all, mate. Yeah, it's just it's
just got a personal discipline, mate.

Speaker 18 (56:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (56:05):
Well when we packed it at home with the kids, mate,
we cut them a minute thing about starlink mail.

Speaker 16 (56:10):
I can just log on, I can cut everyone.

Speaker 13 (56:13):
It's just what's that song?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I was just gonna I was just going to say,
what are you doing in the tractor right now?

Speaker 13 (56:19):
I've just taken a lot of rubbish to a hole?
Just Bill, We don't put rubbish in holes, mate, No.

Speaker 19 (56:28):
More.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
And we'll come to track to you're driving.

Speaker 13 (56:33):
I'm driving a Vault So she's only one year old.
She's it's quite beautiful sounds.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
It sounds pretty quiet in the cab acually.

Speaker 13 (56:41):
Yeah, I turned the conditioning mask. I could hear you.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Yeah, what's the tea like in there? Pretty good?

Speaker 13 (56:47):
Yeah, she's very very advanced, mate, I know, have you
seen Jeremy Clarkson give him a demon on how track
to work so that.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
I'm a big fan of his lambo. His lambo.

Speaker 13 (57:00):
When he first said on that, that's how I feel
sitting in the city day. What you learning?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
What's your top speed?

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (57:07):
About thirty seven?

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Yeah, it's Ferrari.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I was watching a great episode of Clarkson's Farm the
other day when he had a you know, had his
drill on the back and it was unweighted. I didn't
realize that you have to put weight on the front
of your tractor if you've got too much out of
the backs.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
A lot of cool stuff and Larkson's arm.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yeah, yeah, did you get back to it?

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Get off your phone and get back to work.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Josh man, what are you doing? Oh jeez, what's wrong
with New Zealand today? I one hundred eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
I was so hoping you'd bring up Clarkson's Farm because
I'm just staring at the Lamborghini tractor that Jeremy Clarkson
owns so cool.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
I could just see you were leading up to that,
So I'm kind of tractor your big pan of Clarkson's Farm.
Nine to nine two is the text number. It is
twenty nine pus too.

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(58:17):
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(58:40):
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(59:01):
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Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Thank you very much. Raylan. We're talking about having your
phone at work. Is it ever acceptable to be scrolling
on your phone the likes of Facebook, Instagram on the
back of a young guy who got as much in orders.
He was a part of a Queenstown fencing company, but
he was on his phone too much so got the boot.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
The stixter says the traffic control boys and girls are
the worst mobile phone bandits from my observations, I'm a
truck driver.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
That's from Brent from Nelson. Thanks, thanks for that.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Just on that one quickly. So, if you've done what
you need to do with the lollipop and everybody stopped
at that point, is it okay to just be on
your phone for a couple of minutes because you know
they're going to be there for at least five minutes
before you get the web on the lollipop.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, you've got to be on the lollipop. The lollipop's
very important. There's no technology that can replace that job. Ritically,
he couldn't be just replaced with a couple of lights. Johnny,
your thoughts on dune scrolling at work?

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Yeah, yeah, just as a side I thought Josh probably
had some empty drench buckets and a dead Bobby carp
in the front of the factor was rumption in the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Hole, And then he quickly changed a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
No, no, surely not.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Yeah, so I've been I've been in trouble for this work,
funnily enough, and down I was building roads, driving a roller,
big cannipullar roller and the rolling that really makes the road.
So the issue for me was I had some legitimate

(01:00:53):
reasons to arts my phone, you know, a sick child,
stuff like that, legal stuff going on, and my boss
asked me about it. A couple of times. You will
keep it to an excellent modern A lot of times
sitting on the side of the shoulder waiting for the
greater driver to go past. There is run before I

(01:01:16):
come along with the with the roller and white people
used to call the steamroller. And so there'll be a
lot of hours sitting in this unconditioned.

Speaker 14 (01:01:24):
Old old heap.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
Just where there's a lot of downt one and you're
just sitting in the machine. You know, there's not much
you can really do if you're hired to do one
or two things. Anyway, it's not really scrolling. But there's
a lot of people who do that with the machine operators.
Whether there'll be digger drivers who estimator drivers, whether they

(01:01:48):
are sitting in a truck waiting to be loaded. And
as it happens, people do this town. They used to
have a smoke and ask when we're picking killing it.
We used to sneak off for a joint and things
like that and get caught and you know, and get
warnings and stuff like that and go back to work.
And nowadays you have a big inquiry in health and

(01:02:08):
safety and stuff. So I think that the worst example
ever saw was in a laundry unloading bags onto a
comby the commercial laundry. There was guy thatged to go
off to the toilet and have domestics with there's missus
by text and you know people are asking them you
need to a doctor because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
You can definitely tell.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
You can definitely tell when someone's having an argument with
their partner. On the furious nature of the texting and
the volume of the texting back and forth.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
Yeah, yeah, you come out and you've got to carry on.
And it might be that you know, your child's be
standing and the special key unit for babies, you know
when I went through there a few years ago, you know,
and the text message is getting worse, and you know
you've got to carry on a new job.

Speaker 14 (01:02:55):
So at some point you've got to.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Take responsibility and say, look, I'm not fit to operate
this machine today. I'm on the road, there's people going past,
there's other people around me on foot. I've got to
actually stay to my form and you know, I want
to go home and to be part of a crew
and let down that crew, like defensing to contract the
crew get you have to work with people like in

(01:03:17):
the BOSH if you I was going to say that
par a.

Speaker 15 (01:03:21):
Few once out, you know, once is the word.

Speaker 14 (01:03:25):
If you decide you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
Even't got what it takes to carry on wishing everyone
else because your personal life, then everyone looks count up
on you and you look at people, you know, like
if the soldiers put down in a gun in the
middle of the fireflight, sorry, guy's good enough. That happens.
All the team things is that we'll dump on that person.
But now we've got legislation that since we've got to

(01:03:47):
give that person counseling and have a forum about it.

Speaker 14 (01:03:51):
I reckon, if you're on your phone and you know you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
Shouldn't be and it's not really important and you haven't
told your boss about it and you don't have any
business being on your phone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a hard one, isn't it.
That If I ever been in that situation, I've certainly
told colleagues if I am dealing with some some personal
stuff and I might seem a little bit distracted or
I'm not really bringing my a game and they might
not even say anything, I'll just bring it up and say, hey,
if I'm a little bit off today, just let you
know I'm deal a little bit of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
But a sick cat as one thing, and just having
a Barnie with your misses an ongoing four hundred text
multi page argument.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah you got it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Yeah, they've got it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
That's not that's not really a good usage of your time.

Speaker 6 (01:04:33):
Yeah, And young guys don't know how to manage relationships
like experienced guys do because.

Speaker 14 (01:04:39):
None of us did.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
We find out by learning, and so we'll sabotage ourselves
at work and over else while we make mistakes unless
we get smart, and there are those of us that
don't learn fast. And I can casually admit that. You know,
when I was a young fellow, if we had a headphones,
I probably would have been one of them.

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
Two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah, all right, think so much for your call, Johnny.
It's an interesting thing though, the idea that say you've
got a job where you just have some downtime, you're
just you have to be somewhere, but there isn't anything
you do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Then I don't think you could really hassle someone for
being on their phone on that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I mean, that's just in the old days, that would
have been the guy on reading the newspaper, yeah, or
having a seg or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Yeah exactly. I mean what is the boss going to
say that, Yell, what are you doing in your phones? Well, well,
I've completed my desk.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Well I've got to wait here for an hour until
this truck gets loaded and then I'm going to drive
it somewhere somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
See that on the road crew quite a bit. Don't
you wait one hundred eighty ten eighty and number to
call what about though, I mean, what Johnny said is
telling your boss that I'm dealing with some personal stuff
I need to go home. I don't know, that's a
hard conversation to have with your boss. Yeah, because you
know there's I think for most people surely it's you
leave that stuff at the door if you can, if
you're going to come to work. Yeah, you're trying to

(01:05:49):
leave that stuff at the door. Put the phone down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, that's an interesting if you if you come with
a poor emotional state because you've been having an argument
at home, maybe are you turning up unproductive to work
and could your boss complain about that? But back in
the day before everyone had a phone and could get
text messages all day from their partner. I wonder if
that was a stress release. You ve can go that
argument we're having at home, that that's over till five thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, yeah, just put that to be it until I
go home. Absolutely bring that back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
But nowadays people going to have a rolling dumpster fire
of an agent throughout the day, and especially like on
a phone where it tells you that someone's read the
text but not responded, or it's got the writing thing
that they're going to apply all those all those things
that you know that they do to keep you addicted
to your phone, then yeah, those things can go all day. Yeah, Hey, guys,

(01:06:35):
if I had to lock my phone away at work,
I wouldn't be able to listen to you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
I use the iHeartRadio. There's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Let's not promote that that's a bad idea.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
There's not locked phones away.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number
to call nine two nine two is the text number
beg very shortly. It is twenty to three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Mattith Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on
Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety attention
to detail and a commitment to comfort news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
They'd be good afternoon. It is seventeen to three, and
we're talking about having your at work. Is it ever
acceptable to be scrolling on your phone while you're on
the clock. Quick couple of texts and we'll get back
to your phone calls. Guys. In Europe, a phone is
deemed part of your life and well being, and so
reasonable use accepted for family issues. Social media is a
different issue. Although some high risk jobs can insist on usage,

(01:07:26):
but would have to provide a time for calls.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
And what are Europe's productivity levels like At the moment,
it's not free time. The boss is paying for it.
It increases the cost of products across the board. If
someone's on their phone all the time. Hi, guys, if
I had to lock my phone away at work, I
wouldn't be able to listen to you gyough. I just
read that one out before, didn't I. All right, good work, Matt,
well done.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
And this one from sharing. Guys, you have the right
to be on your phone at morning tea break, lunchtime
and afternoon tea break, no other times. The boss is
paying your wages, so he can tell you. It amuses
me that people even have to ask.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Well, that's to people still have morning tea break, lunch break,
afternoon tea break.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
That's what I'm just thinking, How many breaks?

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
What is the what is the disneytter breaks?

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Should be a team minutter, so that's your morning break.
It's usually smoker.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
At ten, so you get that after two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yes, so that you're team minuta. And then you get
a lunch break that most people are not paid for.
Then you get a final team minute break.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Right, Yeah, okay, I don't think I used to get
that when I worked, and you know, I've worked on
a number of places.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
It depends.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, I weren't in the warehouse. We didn't have any breaks. Yeah,
you know, but that place is out of business now
maybe that's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Mark. How are you mate?

Speaker 20 (01:08:37):
Good afternoon, glad?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Were you very good? Now you're a supervisor, so you're
a great person to chet too.

Speaker 16 (01:08:44):
I was.

Speaker 20 (01:08:44):
I left all that long ago after ten years working
for a large mid country here in New Zealand'm not
going to name names, but I worked through the processing room,
which is your.

Speaker 14 (01:08:57):
Bonning room, and we had the company.

Speaker 20 (01:09:01):
Of policy was my cell phones. And while you're working.
It wasn't just because the company wanted it. It was
more safe health and safety because they had people on lives.
You have people on saores, your people doing everything and
compliance as well, mainly compliance because we had one room
at another plant. One day had a situation where they

(01:09:23):
had a young worker on scales that would basically weigh
the product and label everything before coase of the big freezers,
and they were on their cell phone put it out
and they were talking to the other person on the
pipping machine, put their phone down but didn't realize put
the lid on the box and away it went out
to the palette store way to the boot tunnels that
you take twelve hours to freeze everything down. And ye

(01:09:44):
had about seventeen hundred cartins. They had to be put
on hold and everything had to be opened well and
we it wasn't as and could you imagine that went overseas.
You know, we'd have everything sent back and very costly.
So also it was not just compliance for security as well,
the amount of people that would kind of work and
sneak their phones in and record someone working and then

(01:10:06):
do the dumb thing of putting it on the the
work pay Facebook page, only for someone then to go
to management and say, look what this person's been doing.
So you know, I had I handed a few red
warnings for the red warnings out and there was a
couple of people that did lose your job because it's
a serious health and safety plus compliance. You know, as

(01:10:29):
you say that, it's just that's the way it was.
You still you could tell every time people had their
cell phones because you you'd see them fiddling around with
their Rady Weir Muster bluetooth to the cell phone and
the other subjects would be standing right behind them and
go right, you on your on your cell phone.

Speaker 10 (01:10:49):
You've been told what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Kind of approach do you used to telling? Is it?
Is it a friendly word? And then is it okay
to yell at someone to get off their phone if
they if they haven't listened to the friendly word?

Speaker 20 (01:11:01):
Now you just you're brought up. So we're straight up
the office and you know you always have the menu
and to give them the induction book and so right,
can you read this page or are you're paying attention
on induction and you know or you've been here like
six years, you know better. We've had this issue before,
so you know, you just follow the warning process. Unfortunately,
a couple of people have lost their job. But that's

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the way it is. It's health and safety. It's not
just productivity. If someone's not paying attention regardless, if you're
a security officer, you mean to be watching the screens
and you're busy scrolling and then res an incident and
a supermarket or something, well, then you know, two minutes
of scrolling on some Facebook page could across someone they lost.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, so the bluetooth they're okay, that're aloud. But obviously
you just can't touch your phone.

Speaker 20 (01:11:49):
No, basically everything now today's bluetooth, but we we they
were the room head. It's own intena for the radio,
so I picked all the radio up. But they wear
that much protect the clothing and everything else like that,
Like you could hardly tell even if they had a
cell phone. It was a matter of just one of
your stubby saying hey, of.

Speaker 10 (01:12:08):
Course so and so so. Yeah, and the amount.

Speaker 20 (01:12:10):
Of cell phones that would end up at the watchouse
because workers have dropped them or left them in the
toilets and yeah. So for us it was compliance and
health and safety.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Yeah, it was a different time mark. But when I
worked at Sea Lords and Nelson and cell phones, it
was a different story. Back then there was no Facebook
or anything like that. But if anyone got caught with
a cell phone in the factory, instant dismissal. There was
no if some butts they were gone.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Really could did you get instant dismissal back then?

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Yep, yep, And the tuneover was quite high. You'd be
surprised how many people would be there on day one.
Pull out the phone and see you later. You got
it and then have someone else ready to go. Mark,
Thank you very much, mate.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
I'm going to respect that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Well it was. I mean Sea lords knew it was
high turnover because they'd get a lot of travelers that
would come in to be on the conveyor bouse just
putting the fillets of fish down, and they'd be there
even without phone. Some of them will be there for
about two hours and say nah, not for me and
just walk out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
But you would have been gone so many times if
we were running those kind of rules there. Look you
got you just tried to pick up your phone, then gone, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
If you look at that calder, I need highlighted a
highlight important parts.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Okay, okay, this time it was your highlighter. But if
you pick up your phone again.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
You're gone.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
That's one morning we're bringing Sea Lord rules.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
It is eleven minutes to three. Will take a few
more calls coming up, the issues.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
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Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
News, Talk z B. It is eight to three. John
how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 13 (01:13:43):
Oh good o, guys, your good things?

Speaker 9 (01:13:45):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (01:13:45):
Just a quick one on the cell phones we have.
We've got a big firm and we a mix of
office people and trades, so you've got to have rules,
and you know, you can't use cell phones during work time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
They're the rules.

Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
You can't have the office staff going oh, yeah, I've
finished my job and now I'm on my phone, and
then the trade's working for eight hours and then going well, hey,
that's not for you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:14:10):
And the other thing, your ours.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
All their hours are billable.

Speaker 21 (01:14:13):
To the customer.

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
So if some guy's mucking around on his phone path
an hour and then he wants to build a customer
out for three hours when he only did two and
a half hours on the job, who's going to there's
going to be you know, there's going to be friction,
and who's going to pay the bill? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah, point yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Could you monitor the point where you're deducting the ass
of work for how long someone's on the phone. I mean,
you'll be paying someone to go through the tapes or
watch someone. But I wonder what the legality of that is.
If you're on your phone, are you technically still working.
Are you still clocked in?

Speaker 21 (01:14:48):
Well, you can't be sitting in the van and you know,
pretending you're working on someone's car or at someone's property
and then build them. And if the staff don't want
to do that, we'll just say, Okay, you're only working
seven hours a day, so I'll pay you for seven
hours a day.

Speaker 7 (01:15:04):
If you want eight hours, pay you do eight hours work.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
A story.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I suppose flip the flip side would apply as well
in that instance, John, that your boss cannot be sending
your emails or text us outside of the working hours.

Speaker 7 (01:15:16):
Yeah, that's true, But what's trade E's and that it's
normally just it's normally just eight till five, you know, yeah,
and then you're coming and then next morning and you
know what you're doing for the for the day. Head, Yeah,
you don't really, you don't really email them at night
and talk to them about the next day's work.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
I hate that went over to it for British Telecom.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Actually it was a big brother of a girlfriend of
mine and on this first day he got a job
in British Telecom and he was driving the van and
they were going to a site and the guy goes,
were you gone? And he goes, oh, we're going to thing,
isn't it? And then I had got it a pull
over and then another van pulled up and then the
other plan had music in it and the thing had
a rotssree chicken and he said that we just ring

(01:15:58):
it and say that we didn't get to it because
of traffic. And he said, there's basically all at the day.
There's different different food pull up to the vans. It
was a whole social scene going on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
It sounds like a great job, but I worry for
BT John. Thank you very much mate, good to chat.
Should we squeeze Indy and have we got time?

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Yeah, we've got time for Andy. Get Andy? Just a second? Andy?
One second? Andy? There we go Andy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Yeah, good gods.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
What about smart watches you ask?

Speaker 22 (01:16:25):
I'm just listening because I've got an eye watch which
is actually done as a phone. So sometimes quite often
I forget my phone, but I can receive I can
talk on my watch. I can receive messages text. So
how how do where you lot of our phones? How
do people handle the watch?

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
It's good for great point.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah, well, I mean you're still not allowed to do it,
I guess but it'll be harder to detect. I mean,
if you're talking to watch, you're holding it up, or
you're spending an undue amount of time scrolling and trying
to write with the tiny little buttons on the watch.

Speaker 10 (01:16:59):
Yeah, well you can.

Speaker 22 (01:17:00):
You can have headphones on and you can communicate that.
But I mean, first I'm either I forgot I even
had it hooked up as a phone on talking along
this little voice is talking from Yeah, I'm thinking where
the hell.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
I think you get a little bit of leeway if
you're looking like Agent ninety nine from Get Smart, because
it kind of looks cool. But yeah, I mean it's
a fair point. I think the boss would be, you know,
in their in their right to say yeah, if your IP.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Yeah, whatever high tech are pressing around you're doing, I
think it's probably still considered pissing around.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Hey, thanks so much for you call, Andy, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
A couple of techs to wrap this up, guys, just
block the missus till the argument is cooled down. No
reason to be on your phone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
M Yeah, we're talking about how much time is lost
with arguments with your partner at work. You definitely know
as someone that is going through that, the furious texting.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Absolutely, I'm a teacher and staff rooms always full of
teachers communicating in their breaks, but now they're very quiet
with everyone on their phones. That's what I was talking
about before. You see that on work sites as well,
and breaks even just sits on their phone. It's really
removing the socialization from work. So you know, being on
your phone not just a problem during worktime, it's it's

(01:18:12):
a problem in terms of the bonds that have been
made at work during.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Break time as well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Absolutely, get rid of them, yeah, get rid of them
all phones. Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Unless you want to ring one hundred eighty two. Oh
if you're listening to iHeart, Yeah, that's okay. Right, good discussion,
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Coming up very shortly. Are we a bunch of complainers?
We'll tell you more. Coming up new sport and weather.
We'll see you on the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety News Talks'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Good afternoon, j welcome back into the show. Seven past three.
I hope you're having a great Thursday afternoon, and thank
you very much for the last couple of hours of chat.
Very interesting, but we're going to shake it up over
the next week. We want to have a chat about
Brad pet He is in the country somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Is he because everyone's very excited that he's here, And
I was just thinking, is he the greatest actor or
the biggest superstar in movies of the last fifty years?

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
That's my question for you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
He's a very fine actor, but I don't know if
i'd call him the greatest would you think I'd say
some of his best work would have been in the
last ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
What about Fight Club was from nineteen ninety nine. That's
a great movie, seven greatat movie, terrifying, who's done more
than he has? Bullet Train was quite good and glorious
Bear Stards that was fantastic movie. Once upon a Time
in Hollywood with Leo. I mean, he's got to be
up there as one of the money Ball How good

(01:19:53):
was that movie?

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Money Ball was fantastic. Yeah, in this movie that he's
in New Zealand to shoot sounds amazing as well. But
O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, is Brad Pert
the greatest actor of the last fifty years of the
last generation. I mean, it's a big goal he's been.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Who's betters Crow?

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
I put Russ right there at the top.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Or our Russ good Kiwi lad who abandoned us for
Australia and thinks of Australia as his home. But it'd
be hard, hard pressed to get a better performance than
Russell Crowe and Gladiator. Yeah, fantastic performance. Barely in the
history of movies has a person been at the right
time for the right movie, you know, exactly the right

(01:20:35):
person for the right movie. Might you might say Jack
Black for School of Rock and Russell Crow for Gladiator.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Beautiful mind again, phenomenal WAC team. He's probably dropped off
a little bit in the past five years. I'm just
trying to think.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Of the Pope. Sexist was a good movie?

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Oh yeah, it was. Yeah that we was very good
in that. That was better than it had any right
to be. Actually, when I started watching that, I thought
this was going to be a dud. But that was
a good movie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Oceans eleven, all the movies he did, you know, all
the stuff he did around Oceans eleven. So who is
who is the greatest actor of our age? And by
our age? I think you know the round you'd accept,
you'd accept, you know, George Clooney, that kind of era, Ye,
Tom Hanks, Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Cruise, I'm that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Care Cruise, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Is Pitt is pet Pitt better than Cruise?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Hard to all cruise.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Cruise might be the greatest ever.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm gonna have to have a
look at their filmography on both of those actors, and
I'll come back to you on that one. But there
is some big calls coming through on nine two ninety two.
But we'd love to hear from your eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty who is the greatest actor of
our time?

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
Harrison Ford has just entered the conversation too old. No,
that's the era. He's just in a movie that's in
the movie theater at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
He may be eighty one, but he's in that rubbish
Captain in America movie.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
Said it rubbish movie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
But Harrison he's the best part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
Okay, well, okay, we'll give him that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
You know, greatest person actor coming along for a particular role.
You've got to say Indiana Jones and Harrison Ford, it's
like he was born for that role, and of course
Han solo.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
But then again, you know, you may as well say
clinice Wood like someone here has done via text. Again,
great actor, but he's super old.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
We're still making movies Clint east But I just watched
a fantastic Clint Eastwood movie called Dura Number two the
other day that he directed. Yeah, he's in his nineties,
he's still going strong.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
What was that one where he played an aging racist
in America? But it was such a good movie and
he had that beautiful car.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Oh, that's a fantastic movie. What is it called?

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
It's Gonna Kill Me? That is one of my favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Movies that begins with the tea. It begins with te.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Yep, we're going to google that one. But love to
hear from you on this one. One hundred and eighteen
ten eighty is the number to call. It is ten
past three. Begfory. Shortly New Talk said, be there are
some great teas coming through with us. The question it
was the or is Brad Pitt the greatest actor of
our generation? Yeah, and it's controversial.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Yeah, Look I'm I'm I look, I posted, I put
it out there, but now I'm saying Tom Cruise.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Oh, you just just the sheer amount of movies. That movie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
We're talking about that Clint east movie, because you know,
you're you're trying to age bracket this. But I think
any actor that's still alive, an actor will will accept
because and you know, Grand Tarino, Clint Eastward there was
only a few years ago and still directing. As I
was saying, Mike, who's the greatest actor of.

Speaker 5 (01:23:25):
This era, it's John Travolta.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Interesting, you got Grease in there and then the big
comeback with pulp fiction.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
Yeah, and there's there's several really good ones for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Face Off I quite enjoyed. Did you watch Face Off
with Travolta and Nicholas Cage the John Word movie?

Speaker 14 (01:23:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:23:48):
I think so some years ago, mind you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Yeah, he's there's some issues with his face at the moment.
You've got to say he's had a bit of work done.
And that can happen to the actors that were big
in the seventies. They get a bit of work done
in the eighties and it starts to go off the
boil a bit. But that travolt Yeah, Travolta.

Speaker 14 (01:24:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:24:07):
On the on the plus made he can fly a
big aeroplane.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
Have you seen his house?

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
So he's got a house that's on a runway, so
he lands seven four seven and then then pulls it
up and parks it in his own driveway because he
lives at He's got an airport for a home.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
He deserves it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
He's made a bit of money, obviously, you can run
that a bit of.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
A bit of a sleeper hat for him. Swordfish, which
it didn't get rave reviews, but I thought it was
a great movie.

Speaker 14 (01:24:35):
That's the one I was thinking of, actually, and I
saw that quite it was great.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
It was a huge jackman he was in it. He
was the young hacker guy.

Speaker 12 (01:24:43):
I'm not sure I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Yeah, all right, John Travolter. One vote for Travolta. Should
we get to some of these ticks now? Actually we'll
go to for some more phone calls. Pat, how are you.

Speaker 23 (01:24:56):
Good?

Speaker 9 (01:24:56):
Things?

Speaker 13 (01:24:56):
Are you?

Speaker 10 (01:24:57):
Fellas?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Very good? Who do you reckon?

Speaker 16 (01:25:00):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:25:01):
I'm not going to have a huge amount of people
that agree with me. And I'm not saying he's the
greatest actor of all time, but what I'm saying he
did the performance. It was Brian Preston and Breaking.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Bad as boal to White.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Oh yeah, I mean that's our other performance, you know,
one of the greatest TV shows of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
But yeah, he's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Yeah, I think a lot of people would agree with you.
Can you remember it trended a couple of years ago,
but Anthony Hopkins wrote him a less wanted it to
stay hit him, but it got leaked. But I think
he said pretty much along the same lines, right, that
that was the best acting performance he's ever seen in
his career.

Speaker 24 (01:25:42):
I did see that.

Speaker 10 (01:25:44):
I read that little letter. It was quite good.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Yeah, Pat, thank you very much. I mean, Anthony Hopkins
is another one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
But Brian Cranston's been awesome for a long time. He
appears in Seinfeld. He was one of the characters in
Side Found, a reoccurring character, and of course he was amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
And Malcolm in the Middle as well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Yeah, that episode on speed Walking and Malcolm the Middle
is one of the funniest things you're ever likely to see.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Yeah, that's a great one. Craig, how are you.

Speaker 16 (01:26:08):
Here?

Speaker 15 (01:26:08):
How are you there?

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Craig? Good mate? How are you?

Speaker 13 (01:26:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Good?

Speaker 25 (01:26:13):
Before I mentioned mine, I'm going to throw your curveboard yep. Okay,
So Robin.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Williams, yes, oh yeah, I mean.

Speaker 25 (01:26:21):
To see him from his Mork and Mindy days, give
the Eight Clouds actor he turned out to be. And
what a loss to the acting world and you know,
the world in general.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Definitely. I watched Goodwill Hunting a couple of weeks back
and forgot how good of a movie that is and
how leming good he isn't it?

Speaker 25 (01:26:42):
So mine is Tom Hanks?

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, so Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, what have
we got here? You've got so many saving.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Private Ryan forst Forest Big, he was fantastic and big
he keeps.

Speaker 25 (01:26:54):
Going movie Forrest Gum, hands down, castaway. And you talk
about the right actor for the right role at the
right time, I arrest by case your honor.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
So okay, if we're go Hanks, let's make a bracket
out of this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Hanks v. Cruise, Tom Cruise, the Tom Hanks who does it.

Speaker 20 (01:27:15):
For you.

Speaker 25 (01:27:17):
As one's one's you know, you look at Tom Cruise
with us. He does all his own stunts. I mean, god,
who the hell does that? And Tom Hanks is just
a pure a class actor. They both I can't separate them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Well, I'm going to go Hanks. I think purely just
by the range of of his roles, could you say,
I mean Tom Cruise is a phenomenal actor, no doubt
about it. But in terms of his range, he's very
good at the action. He he's very good at the
leading man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
But yeah, but he's done all kinds of things. He's
done Jerry McGuire, He's done rain Man. He's got a
huge range. He's Maverick. He came back with Top Gun
and then Top Gun Maverick and yeah, missing impossible movies.
Tom Cruise plus, in a running race, he would absolutely
cream Tom.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Hanks, no doubt about that. He's all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
I watched this, this short documentary on Tom Cruise's running
style and how much work he's put into it. He
always has a run in every movie he's got. And
he's got those really pointed hands and hands laid hands.
You go really fast and they reckon. He can get
up to he can run. He can run a twelve
twelve second one hundred meters in jeans.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
He's streamlined. I'll give them that. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call a quick couple
of ticks to the break.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Morgan Freeman Shure Shank Redemption I'm a god short Shank
Redemptions got to be one of the greatest movies of
all time.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
And Morgan Freeman is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
In this Get Busy living' oh, Get Busy, beautiful voice
and drive Him Misstasy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
I haven't seen that yep. Have you seen that movie?
Drive Him Mistasy?

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Yeah, I've seen that movie right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Currently a company that we advertise on news tooks, he'd
be Jeremy Clarkson. Fantastic, fantastic. I don't know if you'd
call him one of the greatest actors, but Clarkson Farmers
currently the greatest television show.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Yeah, keep those teks coming through A nine to nine
two Brad.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Pats in the But is he the greatest actor of
our era?

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty's number to call
twenty past three.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Good afternoon, twenty two past three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Brad Pitt's in the country. We're very excited. I understand
he's in Auckland and he's going to be filming a
movie down in Queenstown. Sounds like a pretty interesting movie.
Guy coming back from war.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
He's got his dog. Something's happening. It's called the Heart
of the Beast.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Or part of the Beast. That's right, and someone's done
him wrong and he comes back into society. And it's
meant to be based in Alaska, but being filmed right
here in our beautiful New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Speaking of dogs, no one's mentioned Keanu Reeves yet as
in terms of greatest actors. And you've got to say
that John Wick series, Oh, very very good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
But can he act?

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
It's another question. I don't know ifs can actually act.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
It's incredibly watchable, wasn't it. But he kind of plays
Peter plays the same, and he can choot a gun.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Has he been apart from Billainteers.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Bills, He's been in so many things Speed Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
The Matrix. Yeah, he's he's fantastic. Tony greatest actor of
our era.

Speaker 10 (01:30:20):
Well, he's quite a confidence. It's a Kiwi. It's Sam
Mill Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I mean would have got so many great movies. Jurassic Park,
Hunt for Red, October, Event, Horizon. He just goes and goes.
He's always in something.

Speaker 26 (01:30:34):
He's getting better as he gets older.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Yeah, he's always in a series.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
He's always in a high budgets Netflix series.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
He was great and Peaky Blinders.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Ye would be would be our greatest actor of all time,
wouldn't he?

Speaker 6 (01:30:48):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Can you think of anybody else in New Zealand?

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Bruno Lawrence might be.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
In the conversation, Oh, Carl Urban Anthony Star.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Anthony Starr is a fantastic actor if you're looking at
New Zealand actors. His his role as Homelander on The Boys.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Yeah, that guy is just such a great actor, like
a Ward the Nuance. He brings to that role.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Benchi want that was a great series, Sam Neil, thank
you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Tony as greatest actor of our era.

Speaker 26 (01:31:19):
Well, it's definitely got to be between Christian Bale or either,
like you said before, Keanu Reeves and one of them
is a typical normal actor and one of them's a
method actor.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Yeah, very true. Christian Bale, very very good actor.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Yeah, fantastic Batman, the best Batman, the Dark Knight Batman
begins Dark KNIGHTK Have you seen him? An American psycho.
He's fantastic as Patrick Bateman.

Speaker 26 (01:31:45):
Yes, And I do believe they're in making that movie
actually this year or next year, but it'll be coming
out soon in the remake years. But Chris, it's definitely
between Christian Bale or Keane Reeves there. They're really typically
quite got a vastic expansive movies that they've done throughout
their careers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Was it The Mechanic that he lost an incredible amount
of eight but quite a Yeah, quite a harrowing watch,
but a very very good movie.

Speaker 26 (01:32:15):
Yeah, he's actually, he's very committed to his roles and
I think he he there's a comment that is quite
famous on his that he prides most of his career
of accepting the roles in the movies that Leonardo DiCaprio
has turned down.

Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Yeah, No's he's a phenomenal actor. I just saw him
the other day actually, it just popped up in the
Prestige with Hugh Jackman. That's a fantastic and also another
Christopher Nolan movie and he's great in that. Yeah, I've
got to say Christian Bale, he.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Is, he's the real deal. Kevin Denzel Washington's your guy.

Speaker 16 (01:32:56):
Yes, mate, by far the best actories.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
He do You do you enjoy the Equalizer series?

Speaker 10 (01:33:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:33:05):
Three three Equalizers one on Fire. He's in the New
Gladiator as well.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Training Day he was fantastic and well what was that?
What's the one where he is the drunk, drugged out
pilot flight?

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Yes, that is that is a fantastic performance.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
John Goodman's in that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
He always brings something, even like that, the slightly ropey
Gladiated to movie that's just been been out. Denzel is
just He's just always great in the movie, isn't he.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
He was the standout in that movie, wasn't he?

Speaker 16 (01:33:35):
Yeah? Yep, that's what He's most favorite actor both for what.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Is your favorite Dinzel movie? If you had to pick one,
American Gangster American Kangster, Yeah, yeah, great movie. He was
terrifying in that. Guys. What about Gary Oldman? Phenomenal actor.
He has been in so many fantastic movies and kind

(01:34:01):
of gets forgotten about.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Yeah, Gary Oldman, he was in He was in Batman
with Christian Bale, wasn't he? Yeah, Old Oltman and he's
currently fantastic and Slow Horses. If you watch the Apple
TV show Slow Horses, I haven't he You've got to
watch that show. That is one of the greatest performances
he's absolutely disgusting human being, but brilliant slow horses.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
Yeah, check that out, Gary Elman.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
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Now back to matte Ethan Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Adams, Thank you very much, Raylean, And we've asked the question,
is Brad Pitt's the greatest actor of our generation.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
He's in the country, he's an Auckland. The moment he's
going down to Queenstown, no one seems to have spotted him,
but everyone's very excited.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
But I tell you what, there isn't a bloody single
person that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
The I thinks Brad Pitt is the greatest actor of
all time, even though he's in fantastic movies like Fight
Club and Once Upon a Time and Hollywood. I enjoyed
that movie, didn't recently Bullet Train. But he's been in
so many great movies. Has you Benjamin Button, Yep, he's
been in a few, and you're right. We've had about
five hundred ticks that have come through. Not one person

(01:36:29):
that I've seen and said, Yep, Brad Pitt is the best.
We've had so many more people texting in for Jason
Statham than Brad Pitt.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Great actor, great body, very good body.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I love a Jason Stathan movie now Jason Stathan Punisher.
They're nearly all the same movie. But it's always a
good time and he is so busy. Jason Stathan does
makes more movies than anyone else. The Beekeeper is a
film I watched recently. It's ridiculous. Yeah, he's a beekeeper.
He's a group of a secret beekeeping organization. But when
he retires from the beekeeping organization, which is just the

(01:36:59):
name for what they investigate with and go in and
kill people or whatever, and then he retires to be
a beekeeper on the farm, they really work them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Yeah, but the model kind of works.

Speaker 6 (01:37:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
He's a CIA operator for a former police officer trying
to just merge back into normal life and something pulls
them back into the lights.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
So many people texting Daniel day Lewis to nineteen nine
two Shelley the greatest actor of our generation at this era.
However long that is, I.

Speaker 17 (01:37:31):
Think it's between Adam Sandler and Johnny Depp.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Right, So Adam Sanders one of those ones that has
that range, doesn't he because of course he plays the
same character Lott in as comedy movies, although you know
you're going to say he puts on a stupid voice
from now and then, but then he's really good as
a serious actor as well.

Speaker 9 (01:37:51):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:37:52):
And Johnny Depp, he can go so far out the box,
like Alice in Wonderland.

Speaker 9 (01:38:04):
And then.

Speaker 17 (01:38:06):
What Willy Wonka in.

Speaker 27 (01:38:10):
Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
I was just if you've got a Samsung TV, then
it just sometimes plays movies when you turn it on.
There's Samsung, a whole Samsung television, hundreds of shows. Anyway,
turned it on last night and Edward scissars Hands was
on there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Great movie and boy.

Speaker 17 (01:38:28):
Favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Yeah yeah. And at that time he was just an
absolute heart throb. Johnny Depp, you know, people just loved him.
There's twenty one Jump Street and then he goes in
to do movies and he acts so weird in the
movies that everything. He's got his white face crazy here,
he's got the scissorhands obviously, and he acts like a
little child.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
And then Tim Burton, are there just like two peas
in the pot? Aren't they very similar?

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
Quite weird but geniuses the time, massively weird.

Speaker 10 (01:38:56):
Yeah, absolutely love that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
I mean, in terms of box office success, Adam Sandler
would be right up there.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Just he just pumps them out, doesn't he. Yeah, yeah,
he's made and you know a lot of them are
made by his own own production company, so it makes
a lot of money from from yet from.

Speaker 9 (01:39:13):
Yeah, yeah, he makes a lot of his own movie.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
All right, think if you call Shelley appreciate that. I mean,
I'll watch every Adam Sandler movie.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
Why, well, the quality varies greatly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Happy Gilmore was one of my favorite movies. I'm concerned
about the remake. Yeah, Happy Gilmore?

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Are you going to be in it?

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Of course, right, couldn't do.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Happy Gilmore without Happy Gilmore.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Yeah, but yeah, but then again, you know, like I
enjoyed those murder mystery movies that he's been making reately.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
And shoot mcgavn's coming back. Is he shooting McGavin The
actor surely. Yeah, yeah, you have to have too. He
was pretty good. I enjoyed water Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Yeah, this is some of them was really tests. What's
the one when he plays himself and his twin sister.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Oh yeah, that's a shore That.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
One, that one that'll test your that's called Jack and Jill. Yeah, yeah,
that's the that'll test you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
That one eighty is the number of cool. Ricardo, I'll
go Greek, Greg.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
You think Brad Pitt is the greatest actor of our era.

Speaker 19 (01:40:12):
I think Johnny Depp is really brilliant. He's got more scope,
all those different roles he played. He was dead Man
Walking too, wasn't he? That was Johnny Depp? Was it
dead Men Walking?

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
I'm pretty sure it was.

Speaker 19 (01:40:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd agree with the previous fur that
Brad Pitt's effort.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Snatch, Yeah, that's a great movie.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:40:37):
Do you know how the way he pulled off at
the deep undescribable Irish accent, what I'm doing man, And.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
He's got the body for the fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
I went to Snatch in the movie theater and it
had a power, just you know, that big finale with
the big fight.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
At the end, so much tension.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
I'm so tense for the end of it and big
guy Richie Fan. So I love that movie and just
the power went off and they all just marched us out.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Oh you're kidding, And so you built up to as
I get into the finale, yeah he's got it.

Speaker 19 (01:41:10):
Well, I'm sure you can go watch a game, Fellas,
but yeah, brilliant. And then you know that the runner
after Lockstock two, smoking barrels two.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
I was just talking just thinking about how he mentioned
Johnny depp fear and loathing in Las Vegas when he's
being attacked by the bats.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
That's yeah, yeah, it certainly is.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Sorry, Sorry, what are you saying there? Greg?

Speaker 19 (01:41:31):
I just want to put a plug in for Vinnie Jones.
So I know he's a shout actor, but my god,
I just like that guy for seventy reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
He's done blooming well. From a former hard man football
he's he's been very successful.

Speaker 19 (01:41:42):
Well, it was it was a great footballer.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
It was pretty it was pretty good in The Gentleman.
Have you watched that Netflix series The Gentleman? Another guy
Richie Product.

Speaker 19 (01:41:53):
I haven't seen that. Actually, I'm better check that one out.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
It's really it's really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
But Vinnie Jones is very very good in that apparently
like him and Guy Ritchie a best mates. They live
in states that are right beside each other in the
English countryside and drive around and you know, shoot things,
and you know, dress up and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Cheese cutters and suck sounds like a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Yeah, I'd be into that all right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Have a chat with the lads on eighty Matt and
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Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
Be good afternoon. It is twenty to four. And as
Brad put the greatest actor of this generation, we could
always put that one to bed, can't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
We Yeah, there isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
There's there's a there's a there's a bunch of people saying,
oh my god, Brad Pitt is beautiful. Have loved him
from day one. And Thelma and Leeds, that's when he
turned up great movie Thelma and Louise. He turned up
as the one night stand cowboy, and I think he
blew everyone's mind with how hot he was.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
But then he went on to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Be a fantastic movie producer and he's a great actor.
Did he win the Supporting Actor oscar for Once upon
a Time in Hollywood?

Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
He wish?

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
He was bloody good and that was good in that.
We'll such that up. Ticks here for who's Ron Jeremy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
Oh, yeah, he's that's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
That's not good to google that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Sean Penn was dead Man Walking, not Johnny dep youw muppets?

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Okay, yep? I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Denzel Washington by Father Bess Simony. I think it's I
think it is Denzel Washington that's currently running at number one,
potentially followed by Jason Statham. No, potentially followed by Leonardo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
DiCaprio, Yeah, de Niro and al Pacino. Yeah, Yellow very good.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Yeah, of course, I mean that goes without saying how fantastic.
Both of those those guys are Sam Rockwell greatest actor.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
He's very good, Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Rock Have you seen the movie Moon directed by Duncan Jones,
who's David Bowie's son. Moon is so good and Sam
Sam Sam Rockwell is really really freaking good in it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Riccardo you're another one on the Denzil and the Denzel Camp.

Speaker 19 (01:44:07):
Absolutely bread who Brad who never heard of them?

Speaker 27 (01:44:12):
Hands down, hands down, Denzel Washington. I loved his movies
In Training, Day Man on Fire. He also played the
iconic Malcolm X. I don't know whether the record this
movie Ricochet after my fitness group, Ricochet Fitness, but h
and also named my son Denzel as well because I wanted.

Speaker 25 (01:44:31):
A strong Yeah I did.

Speaker 27 (01:44:33):
Actually I wanted a strong name he was. I wanted
a confident a name as well. And the way he
sort of conducts himself in movies, the way he's able
to articulate himself and play different different characters to an
absolute tea was something I really admired. And look, you know,
you see movie stars today and then you see Escapades

(01:44:53):
and whatever they're up to one Davous and whatnot. Denzel
sort of conducts himself outside of acting in a way
that you really want to role model that for.

Speaker 19 (01:45:00):
Your kids as well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:01):
Yeah, I agree, and I was saying it before.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
But the Equalizer movies, you know that they're not the
most celebrated movies he'd made, but dis good Equalizer one.
I'll watch that over and over again, just because what
a cool guy is old guy, he's very helping all
the young people out, and he's just got this really
good philosophy on life. He's kind of like the real Denzel.
But then he can absolutely kick us and kill about
four hundred people by the.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
End of the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
Extremely what.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Thank you, Thank you, Riccardo. I think it's going to be.
I think it's going to be Denzel. Denzel's number one?
Can you knock him off?

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
We've We've got about seven hundred texts that to come through,
but we'll try and do a Telly but I think yeah,
a lot for Denzel.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
Jimmy, Jimmy, your thoughts.

Speaker 15 (01:45:42):
Ah, Hi, guys work near. Look it's woman hard Maddie.
You know your movie son, I'll give you the Jews boy.
But yeah, Angel Dengel's there. But in the movie you.

Speaker 23 (01:45:55):
Played Hurricane Ruben Mate fantastic, he stole it, mate. But
Brad Benjamin Benjamin what do you call it?

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
William?

Speaker 5 (01:46:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:46:08):
And Tom Hanks is fantastic, I mean male and trendy
should well, he's he's the man, mate, I mean, let's
be honest, A director, an actor. How long has he
been around? At ninety odd years old. But I'll tell
you what, guys, fantastic, good on yours, gladys.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Good on you. Jimmy, I like your style, mate, just
but a big batter boom from Jimmy.

Speaker 28 (01:46:31):
He mate, Hey, yeah, I was really like the the
like the interpretation of d J.

Speaker 12 (01:46:45):
Lewis and Lincoln. I don't know if you guys have
seen that one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
Yeah, he's very pretty Yeah. I mean again talking about
a method actor that puts us all into a role
that guy would would be, you know, probably the best
in the world of it.

Speaker 12 (01:47:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and I mean I mean Last Americans
and there will be blood and all that sort of stuff.
In the name of It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
That one In the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Name of the Father was a fantastic movie. He's the
kind of guy identitiously doesn't do a movie.

Speaker 12 (01:47:14):
He doesn't foot as well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
My left thought was the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
First time I ever saw him, he was fantastic and
that it's incredible performance. But he's one of those guys
that he doesn't that doesn't feel like he needs to
do movies. He almost has to be convinced. There's all
these actors going out there trying to get movies, but
you basically have to fly.

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
Halfway in the world you find him. He's just working
as a cobbler, and you have to exactly you.

Speaker 12 (01:47:34):
Have to talk about I know you guys talking about
like age a groups and stuff like that, but I'm
t eight, So yeah, no, I just love all those movies.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Yeah, and you wanted to put a week Night in
for DeNiro as well?

Speaker 12 (01:47:48):
Well, yep, yep, Danira, yep, yeah, yeah, Robert Denier and Albertino?

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
How good were they? They have their How good were
they together? And Heat? What a movie that is?

Speaker 12 (01:47:57):
Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, I mean exactly. I mean, and
obviously Daring got good fellows and you know that sort
of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
So controversial, controversial with to narrow. But I saw him
in a movie called The Intern, and I actually really
enjoyed it. It's just a nice little comedy and I
thought he was real good on it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
How could is he in you know, his comedic turn
and Turn and meet the parents? Yeah, he was wonderful.

Speaker 12 (01:48:23):
Yeah, he was really really lovely.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
So you're a good man, Allen, Thank you very much.
A couple of texts coming through stan Lee Tucci This
he say, does it? Is it Tookey stan Ley? I
know who he is.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the ball guy. Yeah, yeah he is.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
He's actor.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
Actually, no one mentioned what's his name? Actor? He died
not so long ago from a heroin overdose.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
O Lija, no not.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Le Legia was great as the Joker, but I'm not
sure if it's wider work warrants him to be one
of the greatest actors all time. But oh my god,
this is going to kill me. Mark Wahlberg, someone sticks
it through. Mark Wilberg can't act. He has no ability
to act at all. He's in some good movies and
he was pretty good in Boogie Nights. Yeah that's true.

(01:49:14):
But if you want his acting, he brings on the
money though, doesn't he he brings in the cash.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
But you're right, it is kind of the same.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Have you seen the movie The m Knight? Sheemalin movie
The Happening with Mark Roberts.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
Oh, I would never, I would murder No Wildberg?

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Yeah, no, great, Nigel, how are you mate?

Speaker 6 (01:49:36):
Yeah good.

Speaker 14 (01:49:37):
I'm not a Mark Wahlberg sand but he was Tiggler and.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
Boogie Knight, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
He was very good in that.

Speaker 13 (01:49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:49:44):
Marlon Brando.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean fantastic, I mean He was
a bit portly in Apocalypse Now, but back in the
day he was absolutely incredible on the waterfront. What a
performance that's going back to nineteen fifty four. I don't
know if you'd call him of our era though, of
the current era. It's great to mention them because what

(01:50:09):
a fantastic actory was The Wild One.

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
Yes, so many great movies.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
Thank you very much. As Philip seymore Hoffmans think about.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Yeah, he's got to be one of the greatest sexers
of all time. Seware Hoffman and then Boogie Knights as well.
What made me think of them?

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
We'll go Gary, Gary, Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:50:29):
Go ahead, guys, we're going to throw one into the UK.
Chris Hemsworth mainly for his two movies It's An Extraction
and Extraction two great movie. Also played played four as well,
but he did a brilliant job.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Well you just sorry, carry on, we just lost you.
The did a brilliant job.

Speaker 14 (01:50:50):
In Astract Extraction.

Speaker 18 (01:50:53):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
Yeah, they're great man them.

Speaker 14 (01:50:57):
But boy probably yeah, get down favorite.

Speaker 18 (01:51:01):
Yeah, once upon a time with Sean Connery, especially in
The Hunt for the Rude October. Yeh.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
Sam Neil in there as well.

Speaker 14 (01:51:09):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a brilliant movie there.

Speaker 18 (01:51:12):
I love the McLean Saw movies and also James are
Washington brilliant actor. I absolutely enjoyed his latest one. He
did I forget the name of its number three in
the equalizer.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Yeah equals a three, equals a three.

Speaker 14 (01:51:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Yeah, fantastic movie.

Speaker 14 (01:51:35):
That was brilliant.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:51:36):
Yeah, Well he's a brilliant actor.

Speaker 4 (01:51:38):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
He's fantastic boy boy, he's he's he's well out in front.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
I think he's beaten bred. Brad listening.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
If you're listening, get out Denzil. It's Denzil country here.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
Come on. Eighty ten. Eighty is the number to call.
Take a few more calls very shortly. It is eleven of.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
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trends and everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with
the Volvo X ninety attention to detail and a commitment
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Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
Red ports to the country. We were all very excited.
But who is the greatest actor.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
Of all time? DEMI?

Speaker 14 (01:52:22):
To me?

Speaker 4 (01:52:22):
Is this to me more?

Speaker 10 (01:52:25):
Demi?

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
Demi? How are you? What's the greatest actor of all time?

Speaker 10 (01:52:31):
Like Christopher Walker? Are you true romance?

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
Yeah? Chris Walkan's amazing, incredible voice.

Speaker 10 (01:52:36):
A great a great scene between him and Dennis Hopper.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Yeah, he was also fantastic and sleepy hollow. I was
just watching that thingain the other day as the Headless Horseman, terrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
What was the one with Dennis Hopper?

Speaker 10 (01:52:49):
True Romance ninety three? Everyone's in that movie, Christian Trader,
Gary Oldman, Brad pet I think who else is in it?
Bel Kelmer?

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Yeah? Great movie. Oliver Stone, wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
I think it was an Oliver Stone one?

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
Thanks for that text. What movie was he talking about there?

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
True Romance?

Speaker 18 (01:53:08):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (01:53:08):
True?

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
I mean yeah, yeah, that was written by Quentin Tarantino
but directed by Olive Stone.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
Yeah right.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Uh, Cheyenne, the greatest move hector of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Uh, you've got us on, You've got us on the speaker,
so just put us off the speaker. Hopefully we'll have time.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Judy, greatest sector of all time? In your opinion?

Speaker 29 (01:53:30):
Oh, I just think it's John Travolta. If you look
at the versatility of that man, and you know in
drama films as a villain man, he was a nasty
villain boy in a bubble, totally different and then welcome back,
cast a slightly dumb teenager.

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
Welcome back, well, welcome yeah, and great.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Dancer as well things.

Speaker 29 (01:53:53):
He's in drama. He was even in a film where
he was a lawyer in an oil movie, you know,
a went into the town or something. He's so versatile,
and that's what you were looking for, Like, not so
much the films, but the versatility of the actor.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
We judy, all right, we found Travolt's biggest fan, clearly.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
But I've got about four.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
Thousand texts that we've tallied here to get the top
five actors of our era. That was the question we
asked Brad Pittsontown. Is he the greatest actor of the year. Well,
the spoiler alert in the countdown he hasn't made it,
but boy, oh boy, if we got a lot of texts.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
We certainly have. So the top five.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
As voted for by you. Okay, at five.

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
Yep, Johnny Depp's coming there, nice, yep, good week, Johnny
there go.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
Weld done. Johnny Cruise is coming at four.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
Controversial, but Weld done to that controversial. We should have
been higher. Oh yeah, number before.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
Daniel day Lewis.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
Yeah, yeah, Well done.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
Leo Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
I agree, Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
He likes him young, but he's been in a lot
of movies. Know, were no surprises. If you've been listening
the last hour Denzel Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
World on Denzel. Sorry, Brad, if you're listening, yeah, you're
welcome here. We're looking forward to your movie. Just do better,
be better in this one.

Speaker 4 (01:55:16):
You might knock the inseil off.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Thank you very much for today. I really enjoyed the chats,
and we'll do it all again tomorrow. All right, give
me a tasty KeyWe.

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