Full Show Podcast: 21 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello and welcome all you great New Zealanders to the
Matt and Taylor Afternoons podcast. Great show today, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Big Monday.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
We had someone ring in and sell their product for
a bit we should have hung up on. But you'll
probably notice that and just ignore that person.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Just move on, move on fast, move on from that.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Person when you get to it. But some good topics today,
a lot of celebration around sport and America's Cup.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, and also you mentioned you went to the Auckland DEFC,
which was a big day for you, and then a
very interesting night for you, Matt Heath, you ended up
in some pretty unfortunate situations.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Wow, fortunate at the time, unfortunate the next day as
it is. But yeah, the Auckland FC was fantastic. But
what an incredible, incredible weekend of sport. Later on in
the show, we get into parking revenge around an article
I wrote for my substackmet Heeath dot substack dot com
around parking and vengeance.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
And what I didn't know about this story after I
read the conclusion it was a nice conclusion. Yeah, but
it turned out the enemy, someone you thought was being
incredibly difficult and a bit of an a hole, Yeah,
turned out to.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Be He's got to be careful not to personify what
people are doing. Yeah, because do you think people Sometimes
you think people are purposely trying to take you down,
but there's often another explanation.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It was someone you'd never expect yet me put it
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, exactly, so that there was a real learnings in
the show.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Today.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm going to say good chat on the America's Cup
Dalton whether he is going to bring it back to
New Zealand. I actually think it was fifty to fifty
on whether he's going to bring it back. How much
money do we inject into it? Do we love a
party in New Zealand. You're a massive party fan, You're
all about the party.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I'm a messive about the parties. But it's not
that America's Cup's not coming back. Is that a spoiler?
It's a spoiler. I think we got to that opinion
by the end of it, but I don't think it's
going to come back.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
And also we had a chat to a bariatric surgeon
which was interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, on these a zim peck and whether you can
just take a pearl and solve all your all your
ob city problems can for a while, but like everything,
there's the punishing hard work that you actually have to do.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It was full circle that discussion.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
All right, Okay, then give them a taste of Kiwi.
Let's listen to the pod.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty
four used talk zibby.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Jan Life.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Jim.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yes, we are the champions on the sporting front. What
a weekend for the Kiwi's Matt Nath.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
No time for losers because we are the champans of
the world.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I mean, we'll just go through the list of our achievements.
I mean, obviously the black Caps incredible. The silver ferns,
the paddle ferns.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
The pedal ferns. Now that what do the pedal ferns do?
The pedal ferns is some kind of water bays polar
I don't know. We're proud of them.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
They have one and they are legends. The white ferns Auckland,
the FC team New Zealand, Liam Lawson, hat and wild
and as a texta mentioned as well Ali Wallerstone as
well on the cycling track. I mean, how good are we?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Are we the greatest sporting nation of all time this weekend?
Certainly we're definitely the best in the world this weekend
across of everything. What was what was the What was
the biggest one for you, Tyler? What what really tickled
your fancy?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Of course I loved it all, but the one that
made me really tough was this morning. Liam Lawson, you're
really making his mark because the pressure is on him
and he started off on the back foot with those
penalties in this morning.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh yeah, now that that's impressive. He's an impressive individual, absolutely,
and that is huge. I mean that is global.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Everyone knows what's going on in the exactly your highlight.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well out to the Auckland f C. And that was
just a beautiful event. It shows that New Zealanders can
go out and support a local franchise and have a
very very very good time. It was so well run.
The team looked amazing. That's been brought together help of
a billionaire. Obviously billionaires help a lot in sporting franchise certainly,

(04:29):
but they've done a great job. The team was fantastic.
The day was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
What a day. It looks good.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, everything's great. There was people partying and racking it up.
There was families there. It was a beautiful day. We
want to no, I can't speak more highly of that event.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
And it made you open up your wallets and help
out the good hospitality of Auckland.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, once again, And this happens a lot in my life.
I turned a victory into a loss by over celebrating
how great the day was and ending up at a
Japanese restaurant and really leaning.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Into the saki oh in terms of alcohol that you
really pay for the next day.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Saki's right up there, so delicious at the time, the
hot Sarki or the hot Sarky. It just keeps coming
and you're pouring drinks for each other. It's very communal.
You wake up on a Sunday morning, a lot of
admin to do going. Probably shouldn't have had the fifteenth.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well they keep it going. They have great service at
Japanese restaurants. Yes, they keep that Ssarki coming. Yeah, fantastic.
Right on to the show today. After three o'clock, you
get a problem with someone parking in your car parks.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I just want to talk about pety revenge actually,
and little bits of petty revenge people have got on
neighbors and people that park in spots, and people that
do bad things to you. Is it okay to write
insulting words into the dust on someone's car if they're
parked in your spot? Is it okay to lift their
windscreen wipers up?

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
What's okay? And does that make the world a better
place or a worse place?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Are you gonna say how you feel about that now?
I think if it's if you're not damaging the vehicle,
then that's okay. Up the toe company, Yeah, I think
that is. That's quite an extream step.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's a lot for me to call a tower. It's
a lot for me to call a tower. But when
it comes to petty revenge and all kinds of revenge,
I believe in the words of the great Roman emperor
philosopher Marcus Ralius when he said in Meditations, the best
revenge is to not be like that. The best revenge
is to look at the way other people behave and go,
I know that that's not the right way to behave.

(06:35):
So I'm going to behave in a different way than that,
and that's how I become a better person. Having said that,
that's not how I behaved in this case.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
That's good. That's after three o'clock. After two o'clock. The
rise of weight loss drugs like o zeenpic. Do we
need to look at subsidizing these drugs? Oh, zempick, as
we know, is being seen as a bit of a
wonder drug, very successful results overseas so far. But is
the ever such a thing as a silver bullet? A shortcut?
Matt Heath, you feel pretty strongly about this.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, there's only you've got You've got to You've got
to do more exercise and eat better. That's what you've
got to do. Because you're going to take drug for
the rest of your life. Is that how you're going
to deal with it? Because at some point you're going
to come off that drug and maybe you've had this
outsizeed weight loss, but it can go back on very
very fast. And also you don't know what the long
term effects of this. They've only been doing this for

(07:23):
a few years. Yeah, so you're going to get take
that injection. We'll take those pills constantly for the rest
of your life, or are you just going to start
eating whole foods and start going for a walk and
do the good, honest thing for your country and be
healthy so you don't become a burden on the health system.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Right I've got a different take on that one, But
that's after two o'clock right now, let's have a chat
about the America's Cup.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, everyone's talking about it. We won the America's Cup again.
Obviously there's no doubt we cared about it less because
it was over there. Do we need to bring it
home no matter what the cast? Are we allowed to
spend money on fun, exciting stuff or when someone suggesced
something like this, do you just go? But what about
the need and hospital which is I'm hearing a lot
of thoughts around that, or should we just be honest

(08:06):
and say it's definitely not coming home. Grunt Dalton was
kind of putting a foot in that camp just to
seem like it was a possibility. So it was other
people's fault of it doesn't happen, but it's not coming back,
and there's a billionaire jumps on board and says that
they're going to pay for it.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well, Dalton was grunt Dalton was on with Mike this morning,
and here is a little bit of what he said.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously I'm starting to get asked
that question, and I think it's a simple way to
answer it is this. It is not off off the table.
It has never been off the table. We never went
away because the only reason we left was to do
what exactly just happened, to keep an amazing team together
and to win. So if that amazing team can be

(08:47):
kept together, and we believe that we can win, and
we can puy a viable of the end at home,
we're coming home.

Speaker 8 (08:53):
The chances, as you sit here right now, hand on heart,
are what.

Speaker 9 (08:57):
I haven't got a.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Clue, right, I mean, to be fair to use it on.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
I've heard nothing, not a dicky bird, not a booth.
So I actually have no I can't actually answer that
even with the hand on my heart, because I'm heart
So is it our.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Job to go out and go please come home? He
hasn't here to give it had to things at our
job to go out to him and say come home please?
All is forgiven. Also, he says his job is to win,
and maybe that's true for his his you know, for
team in America, but do we here? We just came
home and we had the party here and then, you know,
do your best to win. But is the winning the
most important put in part of it or the defending

(09:30):
it back home in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It was amazing having a party here, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It was an incredible party. You're just traveling around that.
You're just going to travel around the world winning it
as New Zealanders care less and less about it.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, And I think the buy in for this particular cup.
I mean, look, if you disagree, please love to hear
from you. But the buy in wasn't there. I didn't
really get involved in the hype. I didn't watch the
final race WOA Cup. I was pretty stoked that we
won it, but I didn't. There was no buying from
me during that whole whole part of that regatta. I
didn't watch any of it. If it was here, absolutely

(10:00):
would have got behind it, you know, I mean remember
the last time it was here. As you say, big
party in Auckland, but around New Zealand, the whole offices,
we're getting in what you're around around the TV screen.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And currently you can't say things like that. People get upset,
They go, but what about this? What about that? This
is hard? There's there's no time for having fun. This
is all about just grim, eat your growl, get through that.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You eat your grol, and be happy you've got your growl.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
The worst thing that could possibly happen is that we
invest in a good time going forward. But I can't see.
I can't I just can't see. I just don't think
it happens. Reading between the lines of what Grant dolden
since there, he was like, mean, you didn't even talk
to me. It's always been on the table a little
bit blah blah. But he has he has no intention
of coming here unless we absolutely pull down our pants.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
It felt like Dejavoux listening to him, actually, because I've
heard that that was almost word for word what he
was saying last time we had this discussion. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. What do you think? I mean,
you heard a little bit about what a Dalton said
to Mike Hoskin this morning. Is it coming home? I
we don't think it is. What do you say?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Whoever supports it is going to get absolutely shot down.
I guarantee it. I wanted to come home watch me
get shot down for saying that, but.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm with you as well. Okay, I mean, how much
is going to cost? So roughly last time I think
they were asking for the total funding from the government
was about fifty mili.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Right, I'm not sure exactly. I thought it was more
than that. And once you bring in the infrastructure that's
already be invested into it and such, it gets right
up there. But okay, let's say you say you're into it.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, because what do we want from that country?

Speaker 10 (11:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, genuinely. And I will say this is someone that
wasn't up here in Auckland last time. I was down
in christ Church at the time, but the and I
wasn't a massive sailing fan, and I'm still not to
be fair, but just the fact that I got into
the hype and got into the fervor and the excitement.
Same thing happened when we had the Woman's Football World
Cup Yere. Wasn't a big football fan. But the fact

(11:56):
that people get excited around me makes me excited. And
I love that.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, say it in one sentence, bring it home. What
about the need in hospital?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
We'll find money for that summer house. I wait, undred
eighty ten eighty. It is sixty pass wid.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 3 (12:25):
Good afternoon. It is nineteen past one and we're talking
about the America's Cup and a lot of discussion about
where the grant Dalton will bring the next competition back
to New Zealand. And I think we're both as one
on this, Matt where we think Dulton is not going
to bring it.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
No, he's just saying enough to make it sound like
he's a good guy.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
What do you say, O eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty and is it worth it? If it's just a
question about money, We're going to go to Ruth Kid
Ruth Hi, Yeah, good, what's your take on this one.

Speaker 11 (12:57):
Oh, he's definitely not brigging it back. He's he's just
it's all talk. But you know what, what he forgets it.
It's not just it's not just for us to get
behind it and you have a party in New Zealand
if we do win it. But he's forgetting about the
impact it has on all businesses that could benefit from
it being in New Zealand. You know the hundreds of

(13:20):
thousands of dollars that you know, like these Piochts would
spend if they're here. You know, the thousands of dollars
of flowers that they would buy to put on their boats,
all the food, all the restaurants. I think people forget
about that, that it's good for the economy.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
How much would you be happy with New Zealand putting
into it governmental spending, either council or general government.

Speaker 11 (13:44):
I think they've just got to weigh up how much
it would impact our economy by having it here. I
mean apparently you know they've made over a billion dollars
in Spain from it on revenue. So I think you've
just got to wait out.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Do you believe those ruth whenever I hear them. I'm
not sure quite how it works. You say this put
this much into the economy, this many people watched it
around the world. You want to know the exact the
If you could know the exact money going out in
money come back in a very sort of sober investment

(14:21):
sort of strategy, that would be good.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, And I'll just Halen Clarke mentioned she threw out
some numbers here that and I'll just read the quote here.
So an economic impact assessment found the government's investment over
the four year cup cycle this is when she was
in government, and they paid thirty six million dollars to
keep it here added an extra sixty two to seventy
four million to gross domestic product GDP.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
How much is that?

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Just?

Speaker 12 (14:47):
Key?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
We spending money in different areas that they wouldn't they
would have spent it somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Wow that you know.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So that's the question, because how much can we actually
milk super yot people and how much can we milk
the you know, the teams that come down here for
the GST.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's not like putting in an investment fund, is it
that we put that money in there and then we
get a guaranteed return of sixty million. It doesn't quite
work like that.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, that's why I think you've got to lean into
the fun of it. So if it's fun, then some
things that we have to do just have to be
fun and they make us feel better as a country,
and potentially there's an unquantifiable growth in the country and
in the feeling of well being that a country has
when it's doing really well, we've got a high tech

(15:31):
thing that's happening. We feel more high tech, we feel
we feel more positive, we feel more together as a country.
That there might be an unquantifiable bonus in these successes.

Speaker 11 (15:42):
Ruth, I think so, because even long term, you don't
really know if people are watching New Zealand, you know
what happens. Then after the Cup, you know they they
may come here for their holidays and there's a long
term impact of it being in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, that's a stronger argument for me. I mean, it's
great if there's an economic impact and hospital gets a
chunk of that money coming in, and we get some
broadcasting rights and then we're broadcast around the world and
people want to come here as tourists. That's all good stuff.
But to me, I'm with you. The fact that we
have an event that most of the country, at least
some of the country can get behind and inject excitement

(16:20):
into our daily lives. That's massive. And again, as a
non sailing fan and a non football fan, I felt
that during the Women's World Cup here and during the
America's Cup in Auckland i was in christ Juche, I
felt that it made me happier day to day.

Speaker 12 (16:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So the global TV numbers may not be as big
as people claim them to be, but it is New
Zealand looking high tech, and it is New Zealand looking beautiful.
There is something domestically that's great about that, and something
globally that's great about that.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
So you're saying, forget about Dalton and the games that
he's gonna play, about wanting some cash to keep it here,
you say, just play his game, give him the cash
because it is good for this country.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Just lead him on at the last minute, just pull
the rug out from underneath him. Just lead him on.
Just a few breadcrumbs here and here and here and
at the rast minute, just gona. We were never going
to do it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Just jokes, just jokes. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is a number of call. It's twenty four past one.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Putting the tough questions to the news speakers, the Mike
Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 8 (17:20):
The business of the America's Cup, the team you see them,
Boss grunt Dalton is with us. We'll have the usual
post America's Cup conversation. Now, if you locked the team down?
Are you locking the team down? What are you doing
with all.

Speaker 9 (17:29):
Of that, Well, nothing yet, it's actually just afterwards. But
there's the conversations that will happen pretty quickly. And I
know after Auckland we did a very thorough review, asked
ourselves a question, We've just lost this America's Cup. Why
did we lose it? And you have to come up
with the right answers because you got to make decisions.
See his way to put it. The decisions that are
made in the next six month will be the winning

(17:49):
and the losing of the next America's Cup. And that's
the same for every team. You make your decisions now
and you better get them right back.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bady's
Real Estate News Talk.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
ZB twenty six past one.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, everybody's talking about it. Rat chat, Carry had this
morning about it. Mike was talking about it. Dean, your
thoughts about the America's Cup coming back to Auckland.

Speaker 13 (18:11):
Yeah, Lork I agree with Ruth.

Speaker 14 (18:13):
I think, look, we're not ready for the next two years,
but we could definitely put an event in in the
next four years. To do that, We've really got to
support Dolson to get this across the line. And that
means it'll probably go to somebody like Jeddo. Now, I've
lived in Jedda and it's too bloody hot in summer,

(18:33):
so why not do it in their winter, which is
like between January and March. And what we could do
is have the juniors and the Woman's America's Cup doing
that in Auckland. You've got twenty four seven going on
between the men's up in Jedda and the Woman's and
the juniors down in Auckland. That continues that sort of
a continuation and it's twenty four to seven coverage.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Hey just one second, Dean, and not want to look
like an idiot here, but what do you mean by Jedda.

Speaker 14 (19:04):
Well, Jenna is in Saudi Arabia where they looking at
going to go.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, well we were both sitting here googling like mad
and say where the he is Jeta? So it's in
Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 14 (19:14):
Yeah, yep, I.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Got a picture of the Volkswagens. You said that about it.

Speaker 14 (19:19):
It's going to be Doha or Jenna, one of the two.
That's where the money is that they come from. Now, Jenna,
it's just working hot in summer. You do it in
the winter, and what you can do is you can
you could do the juniors and the Woman's Americas coup
at the same time. You've got twenty four seven coverage

(19:40):
for three months and it keeps New Zealand involved.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Just just quickly, Dean, do you think and sorry to
jump in mid mid sentence, but do you think Dalton
may do us dirty? Because you mentioned Saudi Arabia. Money's
no problem for them. They've got heaps of it. That
it may be that, you know, we offer the fifty
million bucks he needs, but then Saudi Arabia turn around
and say we'll give you five hundred million, and he
will do us dirty there.

Speaker 14 (20:05):
Yeah, it's just not for dolphins, for New Zealand as well,
and and the maritime, the machinery behind New Zealand behind that.
So the more the money that Saudi Arabia's paid to
push into the America's cup, the more the money that
New Zealand makes out of it. All I'm saying is
that we're just not ready for the next two years,

(20:26):
but we could put somebody together on four. It's sucked
the money out of the Saudi Arabians or Guitarians before
there and then and we're ready to go for it
in eight Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Now, Dean Bark is obviously talking about not Dean Bucker,
so you're Dean Dalton's obviously talking about winning being the
most important thing to him. He doesn't care where it
is really as long as he's winning. But in New Zealand,
we care more about where it is than when we win. Basically,
if they brought it down here and we get another
big party down here and we get to see the

(21:00):
America's Cup and we get to showcase what we've got
here to the world, isn't that surely more important than
the actual winning of it?

Speaker 15 (21:07):
Dean?

Speaker 14 (21:08):
Yeah, I agree, But Dalton needs to be cashed up
before he can do that, and one more event like
Saudi Arabia or Kata or cash a Mark to put
him in a position to say that we're ready to
rock in New Zealand. We're not ready in the next
two years, but in four years we could have a
massive party. Until then, godess to port Dalton to keep

(21:33):
it in line and have something like the Woman's World
Cup over here in New Zealand. Yeah, I don't think
I'll be able to do it up there anyway.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's a very good point.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, good girl.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Would probably be better for the woman to be sailing down there,
down here than up there.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
And can we keep Dalton in line? I don't think
anyone can keep Dolden. Nobody puts Dalton in the corner.
It is half past one.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
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Speaker 3 (23:13):
Thank you very much, Raylan, and we are talking about
the America's Cup on the back of the wind. Does
it need to be walked back brought back to New Zealand?
And do you think Grant Dalton really cares about us anymore?
One hundred and eighteen eighty is a number to call,
sue you're not so hot on its coming back here
or at least spending money on it.

Speaker 17 (23:30):
Oh hi Tyler, I'm matte. Well, money talks, doesn't it.
But no, no, I'm not not telling you. Why didn't
the mayors say this morning it would cost Auckland is
at least one hundred and eighty three million. Well, I
think it's all about perception. The council have well done

(23:52):
for cost cutting purposes, been very scrugually taking rubberspons away,
tilletts are probably going to be cut to fortnightly. A
lot of the other services have been cut. We're in
a downturn and the public are being told to tighten
their belts a bit.

Speaker 15 (24:13):
More of this.

Speaker 17 (24:14):
No notious lest one, mind you, And I don't think
in many ways there is really an appetite for corporate
while there at this point of time.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
But sue, what's wrong with having fun? What does it
every Because for everything you're ever going to do, someone's
going to say there's something more worthy, or there's perception,
and there's someone that always put up their hand to
go we can't do that because that isn't worthy enough.
But isn't a country more than just doing the worthy things?
Don't we have to get together as a nation and
do things that we can feel proud of. Don't We

(24:49):
boost productivity when we feel good as a nation and
we show the world that we're that we're high tech,
and we're special and we're beautiful and we're going places.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
So hell have a pitch su Well, Well, the thing
is this, I don't have the access that goes on it,
but apparently it's not that widely watched overseas.

Speaker 17 (25:12):
There's not a lot of interest in it. And where's
the real figures? I mean, then anyone can you know,
sort of put a figure up there, but what are
the real figures? That might benefit a few, but it
might disadvantage a lot more. And I think we need
to get on our seat excellent and start getting our

(25:35):
city because I mean, have it in christ Sets, but
I think in Auckland it's a real mess at the moment,
has been for quite some time.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
A lot of people would agree on the mess side
of things. So but are you going to say, Maddie,
I'm with you that. I mean, how many council funded
events do we have in Auckland, aligne. But across the country,
in christ Huge, Wellington, wherever you are, there will be
plenty of events sponsored by council that do not make money,
but they do that because it's good for the people
to have those events.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, we have to feel proud of our country and
we have to do things that make feel proud of
our country. And I'm not saying that this is the
right thing to do, but I just think that argument
that there's always there's always the argument that's something more worthy.
But maybe it is quite worthy to create patriotism in
your country and get us all together as a team
behind something. Those feel good moments, I think there's a

(26:27):
lot to be said for them.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
It brings us together. Bob, what do you reckon?

Speaker 18 (26:31):
Well, I think first of all, before they're even going
to consider coming down here, they've got to put in
the infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Didn't we already put that infrastructure in for the last time.

Speaker 18 (26:40):
No, it's not enough, it's not done yet. It's still
a lot to be done. And we've just heard on
the news today that New Zealander thirty second equal when
it comes to not being able to produce in the.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Infrastructure, that is the problem.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, tow Auckland.

Speaker 18 (26:55):
I mean, look at that bridge. They've got the Divide
Act basin costs three million to build and they I'm
looking at ten million to fix it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's a humiliator that the fact that there hasn't been
fixed yet and how much it's going to cost to
fix that is. I think that's humiliating for our country.

Speaker 18 (27:09):
And put infrastructure. I don't think I'm sure Dalton would
bring it back if the infrastructure was already here. I mean,
last time they're offered him I think about ninety nine million,
but most of that was in kind not in cash,
and in this lot they need cash. But beyond that
there is right at this time, there is still benefit

(27:30):
coming back to New Zealand because of these boats. For instance,
all the foil things you know, operating for the you know,
for the foil liftings and all for all these American Cups,
they are all produced in New Zealand from the all
the mass alloy spars are building, all the masks and
I even understand razine paints in razine coatings they even

(27:52):
have because the product that is going on the foils
which team New Zealand found all these hey where you
get that stuff from?

Speaker 14 (27:59):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (27:59):
Razine and New Zealand produce it. So even though it's
over in being in Barcelona, there is a lot of
money coming into New Zealand because of the America's Cup
being held where it is, you know, overseas.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
We've got sort of an annoying, punishing catch twenty two
situation going on in this country, haven't we Where everything
we need to do we can't do because it costs
too much.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
We're on the big do it. We're on the back
foot massively.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I mean, and that ends up being a spiral because
it costs so much to do anything, so we don't
do anything, so productivity doesn't increase, so we can't afford
to do anything anymore. Yeah, that needs to be solved.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
But I think when it comes to it, and I
get Bob's point, and he's quite right the infrastructure failings
of a lot of the country at the moment, I
get that's a big problem, and they are looking at
how to fund that over the next fifty years, and
I think that's a good thing. But in the initial term,
to bring something like the America's cut back home, which
we once upon a time we're really proud of, that

(28:58):
is a worthwhile investment to me in the short term.
A lot of people won't agree with that, but that's
my take on it. That is a worthwhile investment.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
When a bridge costs as much as it does to fix,
we can look at and see that it's not a
huge thing. It does go up and down. It's impressive,
it is fun. Do we need to do some public
shaming song on people that are involved and how much
it's going to cost, and look at every every aspect
backed of it and apply some shame all the way through.

(29:24):
Because we should be able to fix a bridge like that.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, are we talking about shaming the bridges specifically or
the people that build them? Will run that past legal
and everyone shame everyone.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Bring out the stocks, get the tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It's twenty to two.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
for twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
US Talk said, be welcome back into the show, seventeen
to two.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Welcome to the show, Matt. Your thoughts on the America's Cup.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Oh that'll be you, Marlin?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Oh, Marlon, all right, okay, sorry, get o'marlon, get a
Marlon your thoughts in the America's Cup.

Speaker 19 (30:04):
On, Matt, I get really well, I'm up about this.
I so I'll try and be really brief. I'm just
a simple family photographer here in Auckland, New Zealand, and
twenty four years ago thanks to Sir Peter Blake sailing
families needed family photographs and somehow or other they gone

(30:28):
on to me that led to me getting on board
souper yachts around the world for the last twenty four years.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (30:37):
So I can't give you a figure, but it's millions
of dollars. I've built a house, I've employed seven people
nearly at one point.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (30:44):
Some of these projects were massive amounts of money and
I'm still doing it. I should be retiring, I guess.
But what I'm trying to say is the trickle down.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
It's immense.

Speaker 19 (30:58):
So people just see the big yachts and the money,
I guess, but these are real families that sit on
these yachts, of real children. They love coming to New Zealand,
they love bringing their friends, and they do it and
again and again and again. And one of the principal
syndicate owners is still one of my most loyal clients.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
So Malan, you're traveling around and doing family portrait still
for these people that came down here all those years ago.

Speaker 19 (31:27):
But they take me off to wherever they are, you know,
the Hoday homes in France, their places in America, their
places in England.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
We must be good.

Speaker 19 (31:37):
No, well that's what people say. But you know, maybe
I just tell a good joke.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Now, good experience.

Speaker 19 (31:44):
I don't look at the wealth. Maybe I'll just look
at the people, and you know, how do I connect
with these people. How do we have fun? You said
about fun, And while I've been sitting here waiting, imagine
post COVID if we had had that yacht race down
here right now. Yeah, I mean that it's a massive
boost and what my point is to trickle down and
my little family is massive and it still goes on

(32:07):
and people say, well, how did you get all these
clients around the world. It was Pete and Blake, it
was Russell Coots, was an America's Cup.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
You jumped on an opportunity. And I certainly haven't heard
of the portraits offshoots of the America's Cup. That's that's
really really interesting. And so you've employed seven people on
the back of this. This has made your business grow
before COVID.

Speaker 13 (32:30):
I I had to because.

Speaker 19 (32:33):
You know, with my fellow photographs here in New Zealand,
if I start telling them about what I do, they
just close over.

Speaker 13 (32:39):
They don't believe it.

Speaker 19 (32:40):
So I don't sorry, but you know, I've just come
back from America. But of course, one family leads to another,
to a needs to another, and all you have to
do is do a good job. And in terms of
America's Cup, we are doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I think we've wanted.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Again, who's the most photogenic? Who's the most photogenic? Bair
good looking fella. Yeah, they are all photogenic. Good dance,
good tans on the sailors, Marlin. Thank you very much, mate,
really nice to chat Matt. We got you now, mate.

(33:15):
How are you did?

Speaker 20 (33:17):
A good good long time text the first time callers
enjoying the show too with you guys on there.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (33:26):
However, but swingling number of keywiks, you guys have lost
your minds over the America and all sense of perspective.
To an extent, Sue took the wind out of the
sales a bit because she nailed it with a lot
of what she said. In terms of the sporting event.

(33:46):
On a global level, the America's Cup just doesn't rate.
I mean, I did a bit of research this morning
to see who was talking about it, and you know,
the New Zealand media was. But apart from that, there's
a couple of like specialists yachting, online magazines and stuff,
but no one else, no one else cares about.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It EVENTTT would you agree, though, with the right event
that there is something to be said to be spending
money even if it doesn't make money. Even if that
when New Zealand gets together and feels great, and that
helps productivity because we start feeling better about ourselves and
we start doing more stuff for our country across the board,
and we start loving our fellow man and woman more.

Speaker 20 (34:28):
Absolutely, man, I'm also bringing really good quality, big events
here and for all those reasons you said, But the
America's Cup, isn't it? I reckon if we took a
true dispassionate look at the business case for the America's
Cup across apart from maybe the first campaign, you know,

(34:48):
I just think it's a net loss for us. You know,
the last Cup was at least two hundred million bucks
between taxpayer and ratepayer money that went into it. There
was a scizzor you know, it happened during COVID as well.
In literally that doesn't help when people start talking about
trickle down effects of spending, you know then that the
business case is pretty shape.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
What about Marlon? Though Marlon, Marlon has traveled the world,
he's been taking.

Speaker 20 (35:16):
You can draw a long bow on a lot of
things that what I would say is what other sport
in this country has had the sort of money that
the America's Cat has had spent on it.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I would push back a little bit on the idea
that yachting is just a rich man's sport, because there's
a lot of people out in the water and trailer sailors,
there's a lot of people that do experience yachting, and
and we have a lot of coastline. And I know
I didn't grow up rich, but we'd be out on
a boat in the weekends.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But I mean, I used to think a little bit
like that. Not quite it was a rich man's sport,
but I thought it was a bit a bit elite
for my taste. But when it was last here, I
got into it. I felt the excitement of the of
most of the nation. I don't know, not everyone did,
but I did, and that to me is worth having
an event of that scale here.

Speaker 20 (36:04):
Hey, look, yachting as a as a sport and as
a pastime and as a a genuine skill is a
great thing. And what I'd like to know is with
all the public money that was throwing at these pirates,
sorry to New Zealand, I'd like to know, you know,
did the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron or teen New
Zealand ever get into the working class schools of West

(36:25):
Auckland and South Aukland and teach those skills to you know,
young high school students. Was anything like that ever done
or has it just been a take take from the
yachting community when it comes to the America's Cup.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I don't know what the Optimist outreach program was
into South Auckland. I'm gonna I'm going to do some
research on I'm going to hazard a guess and say
a huge post in that area. Matt thank you, very
appreciate your call mate.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, cheers man. Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.
It is ten to two back.

Speaker 15 (36:56):
In a month.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Mattie's Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight Tyler Adams Afternoons,
News Dogs.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Talk Zed be good afternoon to you.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Has a text on nine and two times two Hey, guys.
Helen Clark wants the America's Cup to come back here,
yet she doesn't want concerts at Eden Park. That's what
I was thinking of morning, because I live around Eden
Park and she's been a big detractor from bringing music
into Eden Park against the wishes of the residents in
the area. I've never met, I've lived around Eden Park
for twenty years and I've never met someone that didn't

(37:30):
want the concerts there. But Helen Clark, she's in there.
She's all very excited about some boats down the other
end of town, but no joy, no concerts at Eden Park.
And she hates the fun and the sounds of people
singing along to the arts, really, because that's what music is.
Music is the arts.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Helen Clark is a massive nimbi. Not in my backyard,
huge nimbi.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't think she lives there very much.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Craig, how are you mate?

Speaker 21 (38:00):
If you want a party and a flary, Yeah, people
of Auckland and New Zealand and MAT's Field good, you
give them one hundred million of taxpayer money.

Speaker 22 (38:10):
But if you want to spend one hundred million to
make money, you'd be better off split in it between
our motivating guys, Liam Lawson and that kind of thing
and getting the New Zealand put on their cards. They
go to a much wider.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
A big, a big New Zealand flag on Liam Lawson's
car would be would actually be a pretty good Do.

Speaker 22 (38:32):
You imagine Liam Lawson, Scott Dixon, the you know, all
the New Zealand on their car as a sponsor that
would be ben for back over the America's Cup.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, but I'm not going to get your fund down
here are we. We're not going to be able to
have the party face to face down here are we.

Speaker 22 (38:47):
When we're not and we're not going to get the
America's cut back here.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I actually think you're right. I think you're right in that, Craig.
I mean what we're talking about here is it's exciting
the idea of it and should we supported. But just
the way Grand Older was talking, you could tell that
it's not even on the it's not even on the
on the on the cards. And also you're not going
to get across the line here because as soon as
you put up your hand and say you want to hear,
someone's going to go. If the central government gives the money,
Dunedin Hospital, if anything in Auckland going to give the money,

(39:15):
then someone's going to bring up something else that we're
not doing.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
It's always been a hard sell in New Zealand, even
at the best of times. John, We've got about ninety seconds.

Speaker 13 (39:22):
Yeah, okay, thanks mate. Our first thing is going to
reduce the costs so americas Cap would be scaled and
p part. It wouldn't matter, you know, bring the boat,
go back to kill boats and reduce the cost like
one you know, is a great, very spectacle, but way
way too expensive. And in the Formula one they even

(39:44):
talk all the technology out of the Formula one cat.
We've got to do the same.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
But well we've got so I tell you what. We've
got the sale GP that operates in that area, and
and that is a fantastic spectacle. Went to it event
went along in Littleton once a dolphin stopped pissing around
and ruining everyone's fun. It was a great event. And
and and in Auckland that's going to be phenomenal to
sale GP.

Speaker 13 (40:06):
Dalton's all about money. So reduce the cost and double
the amount of boats we got so we got sacked.
We need twelve, you know, but and you make it
attractive for them to come in smaller boats. But I've
another one. I would if you're going to give money
to America's Cup, we start another team competition Dulton.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh sheep is controversial. Yep. Who's going to sail it?

Speaker 23 (40:31):
Though?

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Are we going to post some of his best?

Speaker 13 (40:34):
We've got ten dozen sailors around this country. I believe
that that could sail it. Yeah, no problem, all right, John.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Let's take it all the way back to those huge
sailing ships they first sailed in eighteen fifty one.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
I like the endeavor. Get the endeavor on the water.
That'd be good.

Speaker 9 (40:48):
One.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
You have to sail it down here before you can race.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Very good and thank you, John, really appreciate your phone
calling to everybody else who text and called. Coming up,
we're going to have a chat about ozempic, another weight
loss drug. Should we subsidize them in New Zealand. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.
Nine two nine two is the text.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
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Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's Mattiath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk zebby
A very.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show. Matt
and Tyler with you until four pm. Thank you very
much for your company as always in great discussion about
the America's Cup. But we're going to change tech. No
pun intended for this new chance weight loss drugs. And
this is going to be good because, as a lot
of people know, ozempic has taken the world by storm.

(41:39):
It has well a lot of claims that it's a
bit of a miracle drug in terms of weight loss.
It's getting great results overseas. It's not available readily here
in New Zealand, but there are growing calls for it
to be made available here and even going a bit
further to subsidize the drug for those who are having
issues with obesity. So speaking to The Little Things podcast,

(42:04):
Jeremy kreb He is from the Utaga University of Otago
and he's the clinical leader of indo Chronology and diabetes.
He said that by tackling obesity, these drugs could have
an enormous benefit for society and save costs in the
long run. It is controversial, I mean a lot of

(42:24):
concern around these particular drugs is the idea of having
a shortcut, right.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, yeah, the idea that you just have to take
pills for the rest of your life to stay thin
and healthy or not even thin. It seems like it
is taking a shortcut. But I guess the other side
of it is obesity is a major problem in New Zealand.
One and three adult New Zealanders are obese and that
costs asked a lot. You only have to go into

(42:49):
a hospital and see how many people that are in
that hospital any given time are on the larger side.
Because it's terrible for every part of your every part
of your physiology. So the idea is that you subsidize this,
people get thinner and they get healthier and they cost less,
but you're going to keep on that for the rest
of their life. What are the long term effects? They

(43:10):
haven't been taking these drugs for a very long time,
and what happens when you come off it, because you
can just go right back up to where you were
before pretty quickly and ass you make the serious changes
in your life. So do we just cut out the
middleman and somehow conference one in three adults in New
Zealand to start exercising and eating healthy, eating whole foods

(43:32):
instead of junk food.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'm torn on this. Where do use it? You think
it comes down to personal responsibility and we've got to
look after people if they get sick or they have diabetes,
or they have issues with obesity. But ideally, rather than
subsidizing a very expensive medicine, loo zenpac personal responsibility that
they need to talk after themselves.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Does the message need to be in New Zealand that
it's your job to stay healthy as opposed to the
country's job to fix you up when you're not healthy. Obviously,
we're not going to leave people at the end when
they're in a terrible state. That would be cruel. But
is the message just wrong. Shouldn't the message be you
owe your country and your fellow taxpayers to stay in
a decent condition throughout your life so you don't become

(44:14):
a burden. That should be the emphasis on it. And look,
maybe this is another issue that if people are in
that state, then we help them with a quick, quick fix.
But that quick fix will only last so long, and
then at some point the education, the idea of looking
after yourself and taking personal responsible will come in. I've
got a very good mate who had his stomach stapled

(44:36):
and it's really worked for him. It changed his life.
He paid for it privately himself, but it changed his
life and he's kept the weight off and he's a
different He's a fantastic human being. He was before, he's
even more so now. So that can work. But the
idea of just taking a pill, well, either an injection
or a pill, for however long we subsidize it, I

(45:00):
don't know. I don't know, it seems like it's going
to create more problems than it solves.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Here's why I'm torn on it because a big to
me believes exactly what you said there, that it is
a dangerous route to have, even if it is a
miracle drug to utilize. That is a bit of a shortcut,
and you can forget about the other aspects of your
life in terms of being healthy, so you don't have
to worry about going to the gym, you don't have
to worry about eating fruit and veg. You can just
have this little pillar or injection and you'll be fine

(45:28):
and the government will sort you out. But on the
opposite side of that debate, public health messaging just doesn't
get the cut through, never has for fifty years, Various
types of messaging from government about five plus a day,
about sport is essential and exercise is essential for living

(45:48):
a healthy life. And we're more obese than ever.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, I would say we're more obese than ever because
we don't eat whole foods anymore. I mean, look at me,
Look at this, tyler. This is what I had today?
What did I have today?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
You had a very healthy looking salad. It was a
little bit more vinigarette than I would recommend. But it
looked very nice, healthy.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
It was boring, and it was really just trying to
make up for what I did across the weekend. But
that's really what you've got to do. You've got to
have it. It's whole foods and it's exercise. That's really
what will sort you out. And that's why people used
to be thinner in the sixties, seventies and eighties, because
people were having more dinners that were cocked at home
out of whole food and ingredients. And we work longer

(46:30):
hours now, sure, and junk food's more really available, and
you know, corn syrup is all through our food, and
the food's got worse and worse and worse. But that's
the only solution really for obesity. That's the only solution.
How you get there, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty
sure it's a metaphor for what you don't do is
just take a pill.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
So it's a problem. But no, I see, And you're
quite right, ultra process food very difficult to escape. Now
you've got to work really hard at the supermarket. I
get it fruit and veg. Yep, that's the easy part.
But in terms of wraps, all breads or pasta, incredibly
difficult to know whether that is here processed ultra process
which makes you eat more versus the stuff that is

(47:13):
going to be better for you and hopefully maintain your weight.
That's a real tricky labyrinth for a lot of people
to navigate these days. But again, exercise and eating fruit
and vegs, that's been messaging that's been out in the
public for fifty years.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Okay, well, I put it another way. With whatever the
messaging is, is it your moral obligation to your family
and to your country's stretched health resources to do what's
right and stay healthy, or is it the state's job
and your family's job to sort you out and provide
a pill.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Just before we rot to the break? Though, Let's both
answer that one. To me, yes, I've got that responsibility
to my family and to my friends, but most importantly
to myself. And it wasn't until I had about thirty
five that I started to get that wake up call
that I couldn't drink as much alcohol as I wanted
to anymore because I was really battling. I can't eat
KFC every week anymore because I'm starting to pot on

(48:10):
the pounds and my blood pressure was going up and
all those bad things. That just wasn't a worry when
I was twenty, I could do whatever I want. Then
finally boom, Okay I got to sort myself out here
or else I'm going to have a stroke or have
a heart attack way earlier than I should.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, and how are you doing that?

Speaker 14 (48:27):
Ah?

Speaker 19 (48:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Some days? But is that? But do you see my
point as well? That's not only I'm not like you're
saying the obligations to you, but why is the obligation
to you? So you can continue to be a proactive
member of society, so you can be around for your
loved ones.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, I don't want to be a burden. But also
I mean I don't want to die. Okay, that's a
good motivator.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, And so would you say that the same thing
is getting healthy? If you got healthy by eating properly
and exercising a little bit, or if you paid for
your own pills and just sort it out like that,
would that be the same result? Would you be happy
with that result?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I wouldn't want to have a miracle drug. I don't
think you know. I'd want to expend all available avenues
before I got to the point and saying you're going
to have an ejection for the rest of your life
because otherwise you're going to get diabetes anyway. Good discussion. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty should we be subsidizing
these drugs or is it a step too far? Keen

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to hear from you? Nine two nine two is the
text number.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Your new home of Afternoon Talk and Heaton Taylor Adams
Afternoon Call.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
News TALKSZB seventeen past two.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
We're talking about the weight loss drug a zimpec and
it's and it's variations. Textra on nine two says, you
guys don't understand how weight loss medication works. Well, yeah,
I do, actually respect yea. Yeah, Well look to it.
We'ren't talking about it without looking into it. It works
by looking naturally occurring hormones, and these hormones are telling

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your brain to eat, so it slows and it also
slows your digestion. So this text is saying it can
quiet food noises and the people's heads over eating. There
is an addiction that people can't stop easily. Weight loss
drugs help quiet in that food noise, allowing people to
eat less. It also makes their body want to eat
healthier foods, and their body naturally wants to eat more
fruit and veggie whole foods. Is not a magic, it's

(50:22):
just it's just to make it easier. It's another tool
with weight loss kit along with exercise. But it's certainly
not the magic that you think it is. I think
you've misheard us. I was saying, I don't think it's magic.
And I think that you take that pill for a
while and then you'll eventually go off it and you'll
be returned to wherever you were unless you sort out
the fundamentals of good health.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yeah, Bill, what's your take on this?

Speaker 14 (50:45):
You know?

Speaker 10 (50:46):
I think, Yeah, I'm not sure you do know how
this struggle actually works well really, because.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I'm reading it off exactly. I'm reading it exactly off
the the.

Speaker 9 (50:56):
Doctor Google.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Okay, okay, mate, how does it work?

Speaker 14 (51:00):
Bill?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
How does it work?

Speaker 10 (51:02):
Well, you're right, and some of the stuff you're saying
that I've just got off it for twelve months twelve
months down yep, and and I've just got off it.
There's a lot of other things involved in this one
that the drug does. Is it works on your pancreas.
It wakes your pancreas up, which is part of the
deal on processing sugars and fats. Pancreas works. If your

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pancres isn't working, probably then you're not going to process
that stuff properly.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, and so you've been twenty months, Yeah, carry on, carry.

Speaker 10 (51:33):
Yeah, I was on after twelve months.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
How did how did it go for you? Bill?

Speaker 14 (51:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (51:39):
Twenty three k off. But you're right in the fact
that you've got to get your food right. So if
you're doing if you're really sick, I think it should
be it should be coming through your doctors. The part
of the program has to be dieticians working with you
and exercise people working with you. Or as you say,
it's all.

Speaker 9 (51:57):
Going to come back on.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
So Bill, you you started taking it was actually a
zempic that you were.

Speaker 10 (52:02):
Taking, Yeah, and myself once a week.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And so you took it, and did you lose the
desire to have as much food? Did it suppress your diet?
That's the primary way it worked for you.

Speaker 10 (52:17):
Well, because I was working with dieticians and with exercise people.
I'm not sure if you know if that's what stopped
me eating as much as I was. I mean I
was totally focused on what I was doing, which means
I had to eat properly. It meant I had to
exercise properly, and my reward was every month looking at

(52:39):
the numbers through blood tests plummet, levels plummet, that sort
of thing. But yeah, if you're just going to take
it just as empic and off you go and you're
going to do it, you might get them early. But
unless you do some other changes, just like anything else,
weight watches or Jenny Craig, I guess if you know
so on that strength alone, I think it should only

(53:02):
be through doctors. Through the doctors, and you need to
go do the whole program or else.

Speaker 20 (53:09):
Money.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So, Bill, how long have you been off it?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
For?

Speaker 10 (53:12):
Been off it now since February?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
And did you did you did your hunger come back?
Did you? Or or had you recalibrated to the point
where you now are staying with the diets that you
that you wanted to.

Speaker 13 (53:27):
Mate.

Speaker 10 (53:27):
Look, cavec will always be sneaking around whispering in your ear.
It is no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
It always does, Bill always does here.

Speaker 10 (53:35):
Yeah, but you know it just comes down there again,
how much you wanted it.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Sounds like, Bill, though, it sounds like you've got taken
the right approach to it, where you've looked at it
as a way to solve a problem, but you've also
done the work around it and you've approached it not
as a magic pill. So is that so? Really what
you're saying is it'll it will help, but you still
have to bring in the willpower that you have to

(54:01):
bring in quite a lot of willpower to make it work.

Speaker 10 (54:04):
Look, if you've got a really big guy who's you know,
one hundred and ninety cis KOs, he's not going to
live long unless he does something drastic.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Now, what this will do is it will.

Speaker 10 (54:14):
Help get it off quickly, and it'll put him in
a position where he can start working on it properly.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah. And so would you support it being subsidized by
the government.

Speaker 10 (54:24):
For sick people?

Speaker 9 (54:24):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (54:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
How did you get on it, Bill, because I understood
it wasn't readily available here that was through your doctor
had to be prescribed and you had to jump through
some hoops. Yeah overseas, mate, Right, okay, right, see what
to worry about, Biller. And this is just from that
the public relation side of ozempic. It's it's made a
lot of noise over the past two years. As you're

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well known, and when you see it presented in articles
or overseas celebrities Oprah for example, it is presented as
a bit of a silver bullet that this is something
that has never been seen before and all you've got
to do is get injected with this drug and you're
going to lose weight and you don't really need to
do too much more. That is dangerous messaging, right.

Speaker 10 (55:08):
Yeah, very very dangerous because it's not true.

Speaker 13 (55:11):
Yeah, it's not true.

Speaker 10 (55:12):
You're gonna work, You've got to do some work. And
you know, if you're a really big guy, hunter ady kilos,
you're told this can help you. You're going to have
to do this and do this or you're going to die.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Well, good on you, Bill for doing something about it.
And it sounds like you've got your head right as well.
So congratulations on that and all all the best with
that going forward.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah, thank you, Bill. I gotta get to the break.
It is twenty three past two.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk said be good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
It's twenty six past too. So on the line is
doctor Richard Barber. He is a buriatric specialist. He is
very renowned in this country and he has given us
a bit of his time. Good a doctor Barber.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Hello, Hey, thank you for talking to us today. So
just just to make it succinct for everyone listening, how
exactly does a zimpec and the like work.

Speaker 12 (56:10):
Well, they are GLP one receptor antagonists. They work on
the receptors that help the pancreas release insulin and it's
quite They good for diabetes, and they also work on
other receptors in the brain and the liver which keep
our blood sugars down and helps to contrain control appetite

(56:34):
and the sensation of feeling full.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Richard, how much is it a magic pearl? And you know,
you say it makes you feel full full, but it
also has a sort of a physiological effect in terms
of how you're processing the food, in terms of digestionin
But how much does a person have to bring willpower
to it as well?

Speaker 12 (56:53):
Well, you know it's funny that you use that expression
the magic because it's not a pill, it's an injection.
So that's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
But there are forms of it that do come as
a po yeah.

Speaker 12 (57:05):
Sure, and there will be forms of it that do
come in and oral formation. But it is important to
be clear about that because taking a pill is one thing,
and injecting yourself every day with saxender or lyric glue
tighter is the name of the drug, is quite a
big thing, and that's one of the things that stops

(57:25):
people doing it for long periods of time. They get
sick of injecting themselves every week.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Do you worry, sorry to jump in there, doctor Barber,
do you worry that some of the public relations around
particularly ozenpac does present it as some sort of miracle
drug that you can take and you're not going to
have to do any sort of exercise or eat healthy,
and it's going to help you lose weight. Do you
get that sense from the difference.

Speaker 12 (57:53):
I think it's overhyped and over sold, and there's a
lot of kind of misinformation out there around it. I mean,
there's no doubt that it's revolutionary new category of medicines.
They're very effective. The zen itself is not that great
at helping people lose weight. Patients only lose around fifteen

(58:14):
perhaps at most twenty percent of their weight on average.
There are newer drugs that are in the pipeline where
perhaps they won't need to be injected, could be taken
orally and have a similar effect and help patients lose
even more weight and that will be even better. But
you know they're not it's certainly not a magic pill

(58:34):
in a solution. There's a recent study in the UK
that showed that only about twenty percent of people who
are started on sex cender are still taking it after
a year, and they stop taking it because of side
effects and they get and the cost is another big
issue for patients in the UK, and they also don't

(58:55):
they get sick of injecting themselves and they get side
effects like nausea and vomiting.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
How much does it cost?

Speaker 12 (59:04):
How much does it cost in New Zealand. It's about
five hundred.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Dollars a month, right, right, so very expensive.

Speaker 12 (59:13):
Yeah, well yeah, beyond most people's ability to afford it.
And then at the moment, these medications, it's well known
that you take them and then as soon as you
stop taking them and you regain weight. So it's not
like you can just take it for a year lose
ten kilos or twenty kilos and then stop and you're good.

(59:33):
You'll just regain that weight because your brain switches back
on your appetite comes back. Can you start regaining weight
almost immediately? For your question about what was the other
question that you just well, what we've.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Been chatting about is whether it should be subsidized in
New Zealand, whether you know, on a cost benefit analysis
argument that if you help people maintain a healthy rate
early on before they get diabetes, that it might be
worth while. Where do you sit on that side of
that argument.

Speaker 14 (01:00:05):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:00:06):
Yeah, I think it's probably a good idea. People were
talking about that all over the world. The NHS is
looking at it. I think there's pretty soon healthcare you know,
insurers and providers in the United States are probably going
to do it because they probably will save the money.
Having said that, these are things sort of that have
extrapolated from other data in terms of you know, like

(01:00:28):
no one's proven that it saves money, but in fact,
bariatric surger around absolute there's a shameless plug. There's absolutely
data that shows that it saves the healthcare system money.
And that's locked in because it's been around for thirty years.
So you know, people are speculating about it. I think
it's a very good idea because it's kind of a
bit more accessible and less scary than surgery. People do

(01:00:52):
lose weight, You do want to stop people getting diabetes,
and it probably will enable people who currently can't work
because the health problems get back into work, and it'll
probably save the healthcare system money in the long run.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
If you take the drug, does it need to be
backed up with We're talking to Bill before and he
had a dietitian on board and he brought in some exercise.
Does it need to have that pairing? Take the drug
and also teach yourself how to live going forward in
a more healthy fashion.

Speaker 12 (01:01:25):
One of the things about the drug is that if
you sort of forces you that sax ended particularly, and
I'm not so sure about the newer ones that are
coming down the pipeline, like two zepotide, which has been
talked about a lot, which is the next generation after
a zempic. It has fewer side effects. But what happens

(01:01:45):
is that if you eat a lot of carbohydrates or
refined carbohydrates and ocroprocessed food, it brings on the side
effects of a drug. So it kind of teaches people
not to eat noodles and bit writing chips, and so
it's actually part of the effect of the drug, right
that it kind of corners people into eating whole foods

(01:02:07):
which are better.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
For Yeah, doctor Richard Barber, thank you very much for
your time. He is a bariatric specialist and very renowned
surgeon in New Zealand. Fascinating part of the medical industry
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Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean and we are talking
about the idea of subsidizing the likes of ozempic and
other weight loss drugs. Pretty incredible results overseas. But we
heard from Bill a little bit earlier who's just come
off at twelvemonth cycle of ozempic, and he said, yes,
it's been successful the drug itself, but he also had
to work for it. It was a wrap around service

(01:03:59):
with a dietitian, an exercise plan, and also he was
eating a lot better. So if you've gone through an
experience of a weight loss drug, it doesn't have to
be a o zen pick. Love to hear from your
on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
And the thing is a lot of people pointing out
and this is the truth that it's an addiction. You
can have a food addiction, nothing like you can have
a heroin addiction. There a new number of other addictions
and that's something that has to be dealt with. And
the thing with these drugs is it'll quash those cravings,
but then you'll come off it again and you have
to have to deal with that at that point. If

(01:04:32):
you're looking to deal with addictions overad this phenomenal book
by Dr jin Brewer and neuroscientists called The Craving Mind,
and that's just dealing with all addictions the same way,
from a digital phone addiction to alcohol addiction, to cocaine addiction,
to food addiction. And there's very similar mindfulness techniques that
people can use across the board. He's had a huge

(01:04:54):
amount of success. He's very successful getting people of cigarette smoking.
Yeah as well. So I couldn't recommend that book more.
Dr Judson Brewer, The Craving Mind.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Very good, Sophie. How are you.

Speaker 11 (01:05:05):
I'm good, Thanks very much. How are you boys?

Speaker 13 (01:05:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:05:07):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Weight loss? Have you had experience with any of these
sort of medicines, these drugs.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
No.

Speaker 11 (01:05:17):
So I arrived in New Zealand many years ago now
and I was one hundred and seven kgs and I
just made up my mind one day that I would
go to weight watchers and a religiously stuck at it
and go every month. Now because I'm a lifetime remember,

(01:05:41):
and I've kept the weight off, and it's a mindset
and you either have to want to do it, or
because weight loss or trying to lose weight is very boring,
hires them. And it's like I can remember my husband
coming home at six o'clock one night and it was

(01:06:03):
absolutely hoisting it down into in Auckland, and I said,
I've to go out for a walk and he said
you can't. I said no, but I have to, and
I went out for an hour and a half. You
changed your mindset. And I don't believe as a health professional,

(01:06:25):
I don't believe in medical tricks to help you lose weight,
because if you don't reset your mind and reset your body, then.

Speaker 13 (01:06:39):
You're not going to keep it off.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Do you think you're unique in how you've tackled this?
Sofian congratulations by the way. But I'll say this for
myself that I kind of it's a bit of a
yoyo situation that sometimes I'm very good and I lose
the weight and I'm healthy, then for whatever reason, yes, stress,
stress comes into my life and I'm back eating like
crap and my blood pressure is going up. I would

(01:07:03):
think you're quite unique in that you've managed to change
your mindset to keep exercising and eating healthy when most
of us we just yo yo.

Speaker 24 (01:07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:07:14):
I know a lot of people yo yo. And actually,
after I did lose my weight, I became a weight
loss consultant for weight watchers, and I can remember somebody
coming to one of my meetings, and when they came
to my meetings, I could tell people who are going

(01:07:36):
to stick at it, and I could tell people who
were just not. And one person said, on our like
the introduction talk, So when I lose my weight, can
I go down to the local pub and have hot ship?
And I said, well, ideally, hopefully over the course of

(01:07:58):
you losing weight, you're rather going to want to choose
the salad than hotship.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
M that's a hard ass for a lot of people.
I'd just say, just on there, I mean, what I found,
and again, I go off the rails a little bit
from time to time, and I think that's just going
to be a lifelong battle for me. And high blood
pressure is my issue. Right Hopefully I don't get to diabetes,
but maybe I do. But the thing that work for
me is you've got to find things that you actually enjoy.

(01:08:24):
I don't enjoy the gym, and I've tried, and I've
had about seventeen different gym memberships before I've figured that out.
But what I do enjoy is running and walking with
my dog, So that is kind of how I get
out and get a bit of exercise. But you know,
I wonder if everybody gets to that point.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
The thing that the thing with exercise though, you have
to do a lot of exercise if you haven't sorted
your diet out. Yeah, and actually so iph you said
something interesting just before. It's about the hoffing the food
down and one of the best things you can do.
And look, I'm a yo yo, I'm all over the top.
I mean I just wrote an article about dirty bulking
where I was eating heaps to get the food into
to get the muscle and trying to trim down from that.

(01:09:00):
But one of the things is just eating food and
concentrating on eating food, because if you don't concentrate on
eating food, you can have a whole packet of a
whole large packet of chips, yeah, or.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Crisps, Oh god, I was doing them, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Without even thinking. If you don't think about it, But
if you take a second to actually concentrate on each
chip as it goes in, you'll notice that you're getting
more than enough flavor. And one of the things that
we do now is we'll serve a meal. We'll have
a meal and then we'll eat it while we're watching Netflix,
watching TV or what we're doing, and then we don't
even concentrate on the food, and then it goes down
before you've even noticed it, and you get incredibly full.

(01:09:36):
And one of the reasons people say why weren't people
so so having so many problems in the sixty seventies eighties,
a lot of people were eating around the table and
they were concentrating and they were talking when they were
eating the meal, and the main the main thing you're
concentrating was on the meal, and as a result, you
don't get full as fast, and you taste and the
tastes get too much. So that's a huge thing to

(01:09:58):
just A meal should be exciting enough to eat. A
meal should have been excited enough that you don't need to
sit in front of the television. You don't need to
have anything else going on. You can sit and concentrate
on that meal, and I guarantee you'll eat less, and
you know, you might start craving things that aren't so
ridiculously salty and so ridiculously over flavored and over produced
and sugary. If you actually concentrate on when you're getting,

(01:10:19):
you might get enough flavor from whole foods Sophie.

Speaker 11 (01:10:23):
I do think one point that I've always made to
people is don't deny yourself anything as long as it's
within a reasonable amount, because otherwise you're going to over
indulge in it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah, yeah, very true. Nice to chat, Sophie. Thank you
very much. Less text. All this yo yo talk wants
makes me want a biscuit from Andrew. Those are great biscuits.
The yo yo is cream in the middle, your bread,
beautiful biscuits. You've got to try them. I mean, it's
kind of an anti what we're talking about now, but

(01:10:59):
it is seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
You're allowed to Yo yo.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Every now and then exactly seventeen minutes to three.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
I'm taking your calls on eight and Tyler Adams Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
News dogs Me Sarah, Good afternoon to you.

Speaker 13 (01:11:17):
Hi, Matte Hi Tyler.

Speaker 25 (01:11:19):
I thought you might be interested in talking about these
these injections we're going. I'm the CEO of a company
called Telecurb and we're going to Obesity Week next week
in the US in Texas, which is the largest in
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I bet there's a bigger BA City Week in Texas.

Speaker 25 (01:11:40):
Yes, people, No, No, it's all the leading doctors in
the world.

Speaker 14 (01:11:47):
It's all a.

Speaker 25 (01:11:47):
Leading researchers, and our government scientist is presenting there. So
absolutely fascinating and hearing all of the latest dinners. I
just wanted to go back on a couple of things.
When you talk about addiction, it's actually the hind brain
which controls our appetite. Now, this was an asset.

Speaker 13 (01:12:07):
In evolution because what it did was it made.

Speaker 25 (01:12:11):
Us go out and hunt food. So as soon as
you drop your calories or you drop your energy intake,
these appetite centers in your hind brain fire and increase
your hunger. So if you drop your calorie intake by
twenty five percent. Your hunger doubles over four months because

(01:12:32):
it's telling you go out and eat. Now, unfortunately this
was an asset for us in evolution, but now when
we're surrounded by food, it's actually a liability because we're
surrounded by food and as soon as you drop your calories,
your brain is firing, and it's your hind brain, not
your full brain. So very lucky Sophie has this incredible

(01:12:55):
will power. Probably nine out of ten people, you put stress,
you put alcohol, you put tiredness, you put warmones, your
willpower goes and your little hind brain goes, whoohoo, I'm
going up and we're going to eat. And then your
brain does everything it can to defend your weight because
it thinks you may be going into a famine again.

(01:13:18):
So what these drugs do is what these drugs do
is they actually suppress that appetite for a while. So
to your point, you can reset that brain, you can
reset that meta bollet or that set weight point. But
the other thing is I think Bill said before that yes,

(01:13:39):
it is a tool in the toolkit. You have to
do food, you have to change your food, and you
have to do some exercise because it's not going to work.
So it is just one tool.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
So Sarah, when you come off these drugs, don't you
just go straight back to that behind brain just then running.
It's a program that it was running before you took
the drugs.

Speaker 25 (01:14:03):
Yeah, but remember you've reset your what you call your
set point or your meta bollic sept point. So your
weight has decreased and you've got to keep it there
for a while. Your body goes, oh, this is a
normal one, but you have to have changed your food.
But what a lot of doctors are doing in the US.
We sell mainly in the US now just very quickly. Talcub,

(01:14:26):
the company that we have is developed by the New
Zealand government or Plant and Food Research over fourteen years
with twenty five million in funding. So what calicub does,
or the active ingredient which has grown here in New Zealand,
is we stimulate your body's own release of these appetite

(01:14:47):
suppressing hormones which go up to your brain and tell
you you're not full. We are eighty nine dollars versus
five hundred dollars, right, these are tiny capsules, one hundred
percent natural. Now, the reason I'm saying that is we
sell them predominantly ninety percent in the US, and doctors
are using those using calicub as. People can off the

(01:15:09):
injections because on the injections, you're injecting in a synthetic hormone, right,
What we do is stimulate your natural hormones. So when
they come off the synthetics, what we're helping to do
is restimulate that brain gup access and it acts as
a wonderful parachute for them. So yeah, that's where we

(01:15:30):
do most of our sales as to doctors in the US,
bringing people off the injections so they can maintain that
weight loss and just maintain as they you know, just
go back into a normal eating pattern or hopefully a
more healthier eating pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Do people have to see a doctor before they jump
on these these pills or do or is it just
for sale wherever you go?

Speaker 25 (01:15:55):
No, No, they absolutely use it as an alternative as well,
and they use it as an alternative if people can't
afford the drugs, because over there there are thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
But you'd want to go talk to your GP for surely, Sarah, Oh.

Speaker 25 (01:16:12):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, yeah, I think, well they have
to anyway get the intentions. You have to talk to
your GP. But you know, like if it's only ten kilos,
I wouldn't be recommending putting a syntheta hormone in you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Yeah. No, good to hear from you, Sarah and Kello
kurb I think it was. But we'll have a chat
after you come back from Texas because that sounds like
a fascinating conference. It is nine minutes to three.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four,
you've talked Z six to three cad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I now I understand you're on a weight loss trial.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
I am, And yeah, it's been a really really interesting journey.
So I've been typically hovering around the one ten. Once
it's been kg mark and then I managed to keep
myself on a weight loss trial that actually, over the

(01:17:15):
period of two years, I dropped thirty k Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Then what type of weight loss trial was it was? It?
Was it dry?

Speaker 13 (01:17:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Yeah, it was the the Ozempac family and it was
a weekly injection. And then that finished in May of
this year, and I've been on a on basically a

(01:17:53):
watch since then I'm a monitoring period of time and
I've put on twenty kg.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Oh right, so you lost thirty and you're put on twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
So when you came off it did the hunger come
back when you stop having the injections? How quickly did
the hunger come back?

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
Probably within a month and there was just no way
of stopping it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
So in your in your opinion and having gone through that,
do you think that the change needs to be made
in terms of mentally you need to actually make that
that change yourself. Could either that or stay on the
drugs for ever.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
I think as part of the trial, people who are
going on the trial need need to be better educated
around just the effects. At the end year, we were
given access to a nutrition list and and monthly monitoring

(01:19:12):
and they monitored our exercise, eating, our everything. Yeah, it
was well, it was a fantastic trial, with the exception
that as soon as you came off it was almost

(01:19:32):
like cold turkey.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
It wasn't quite the silver bullet that you thought. It
was good discussion, really enjoyed that something that Neil and
go well Neil News Talks B thirteen past three Good afternoons.
You so Matt's got a car park problem.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Yeah, that's right. So I come home and find someone
parked in my spot, and you know, that's okay. I'll
leave a note the same car parked in the same spot.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
And hang on, what did the notes say?

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
It was very friendly. It was just say this is
my spot, you please not park in here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Friendly?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yes it is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Did you start off with a good afternoon, dear neighbor?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I don't know. I didn't know if it was a
neighbor or night, but no, it was just it was
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
There was no cats. You might describe it as curt
all lower case, yeah, right, Kurt. Yeah, but friendly enough.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
It depends what what nuance you put on it when
you read it, I guess, but you know I was
reasonably annoyed as I was writing it. Then the next
day still there. So then I wrote an offensive message
in the in the in the dust on the bonnet and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Then okay, now what did that say on the bonnot
and the dust.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I don't want to repeat that on news tooks. He'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
It wasn't it hand written? No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
It was handwritten. Yeah, the message was finger written.

Speaker 13 (01:20:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
So there was a day two and then day three,
lift up up the hand. Day three lifted up the
windscreen ripers and just left them up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
See that should have been day two and then three
is the duty with petty revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
But at this point I'm still feeling quite virtuous because
they haven't got them told. Because I think getting someone
towed is an extreme measure.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
So finally down the track, I did the manly proper
thing of fronting the driver, right yep, And that was fine.
But I was thinking about that, how quickly do you
have someone towd And is it better? Am I more
virtuous because I did some passive aggressive revenge than getting
someone toad straight away? And I'm glad actually, I mean
I can tell the rest of the story later, But

(01:21:24):
why I'm glad that I didn't get toad or let
the person's tires down, or do anything much worse. So
I'd like to hear people's petty revenge that they've had
on parking, how quickly they get people toad that kind
of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I do the right thing here. I mean, I have
never got someone told in my life, I don't think,
so I just have to cast my mind back. Have
I gone to that extreming to say, I've never got
someone told, but I would, and it's never happened to me, thankfully.
But if I was in your situation and they are
in the car and they just about to park up,
and I confronted them say hey, I don't know if

(01:21:58):
you notice, but that's my car park. Could you please
not park there? And if they turned around and said, Ei,
the heck of you, I'll park where I want. I
gave me the middle finger, then I'd be straight to
the council and say, gets numpty toad.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Yeah, there's got to be intently, it hasn't there to
get them toed.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Yeah, rudeness to me gets rudeness back to me.

Speaker 15 (01:22:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Someone says, how exactly is it your spot, Matt, Well,
it's my allocated spot, right. It all comes with the system. Okay,
I'm not just claiming a spot that's my spot.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Yeah, it's got your name on it literally has your
name on it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Yeah, I'm not saying that's my spot, but yeah, I mean,
how quickly do you get someone toed?

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Well, And I think this might be where you're going
to go with the story. Maybe, but I'm going to
ask the question, this is someone in the neighborhood, someone
quite close to where you live. Yeah, yes, see, because
you don't want it to escalate if you, yeah, if
you go straight for the nuclear option of getting their
car towed. You don't know what sort of nutcase I mean,
this is someone who just parks on a car back
willy nilly, even if your name's on it. This person

(01:22:50):
can do whatever. You know, they can really turn on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
You well well, well exactly. I mean, you don't know
where revenge is going to go. And there's been plenty
of neighborhood situations like that as well, Like I mean,
when you when you've gone for a little bit of
revenge on a neighbor, like say, for example, a neighbor
doesn't mow their burm or something, Yeah, I don't know.
And then actually that's not a very good example because

(01:23:13):
I mean I've had a nagb that to not mow
the berm, so I started mowing the berm. But that
wasn't really revenge. That was more that was more the
opposite of revenge. That was helping them out. But what
about a neighbor sort of tips their leavings, their grass,
you know, mostly lawns, and then tips them over into
your side and then you respond with bits of rubbish
and the next thing you know, it's a full on war.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
That is egregious though, but yeah, I don't think i'd
do that. You'd have to confront the person. Just a
scenario that I can think of, similar but not quite
the same as in our place in christ Jews and
some new neighbors are moved in and they started parking
across our driveway a little bit too much for my liking.
And I managed to get round it, but it was
MESSI I had to drive up on the curb and
ed to, you know, try and just squeeze past the fence.

(01:23:56):
And I fumed about it. Yeah right, But I left
it for a couple of days, getting angry and angry,
and I thought, nah, I'm going to go and have
words with this person. Next door neighbor knocked on the door.
Turned out they were fantast people and they were really
apologetic and they didn't know they were parking so far
across my driveway. And we ended up giving each other
Christmas gifts every year. So that was a nice into

(01:24:17):
that story. But because I was a coward initially and
just fuming, some people would go straight to toe that car,
whereas talking to your neighbor in that case that well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I had an incident where someone I was parking in
a completely legitimate spot in front of a house a
few years back, and my neighbor came out and said,
I can't see you when I'm pulling out of my driveway.
What are you doing? I cannot see when I'm pulling
out my driveway and I was I said, well, that's
someone's going to park there, like if I'm not park there,
it's a park. Someone's going to park there. And then

(01:24:46):
that didn't end up in Christmas presents, that's for.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Sure, right, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to
hear from you if you've been in a similar situation
when it comes to parking in your neighborhood. What did
you do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Do you toe straight away? Or do you get juvenile?

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Nine two nine two is the text number? It's twenty
five past three. You thought.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Mad Heathen Tyler at it afternoons? Call Oh eight hundred
eighty eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
It's the one twenty seven past three. Is it okay
to dob in your neighbors? That's the question you ask yourself.
Matt Heath. You wrote about it on matteath dot substack
dot com. A situation with someone who was parking and
what was clearly your car park.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Yeah, am I good person for not getting them towed
but instead going for petty revenge? And what does it
take to get someone towed?

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Well, i'll tell you what. Matthew has a has a solution,
get a Matthew.

Speaker 26 (01:25:36):
Hey, good addie.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
I think it was good.

Speaker 26 (01:25:39):
Neighbors are Neighbors are good because I mean, obviously you
want to keep the relationship. You don't want to have
neighbors at war. Start off the head.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Good show though, that was a good show show.

Speaker 26 (01:25:51):
But if you if you do, like get someone dim
with that parks illegally or takes up two cars, boats
keeper a permanent marker in your car and right on
their window, and then well well because then they have
to see it, like they you can't like to throw
the note away, but they see it, and it takes

(01:26:12):
an effort for them to get off because you've and
you've left, You've said what you're a bloody w way
you know well?

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
And to write it in mirror writing so they can
read it. Do you have to be that clean?

Speaker 14 (01:26:23):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:26:23):
You can write it on their windscreen backwards. Yeah, then
they have to see it. But it's absolutely good because
you're not sort of doing you're graff eating, but they
can get it off.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
I like your thinking, yeah, because you've gone straight. You're
not straight for a mild inconvenience. So to me, there's
three levels. There's minor, mild, in major, and you've gone
straight for the mild inconvenience that it's not damaging the car,
but it's going to take no effort to get.

Speaker 26 (01:26:48):
It off and they're going to see it and they're
going to think, who the hell wrote out bloody and yeah,
but yeah, so just keep a vivid in your car
and you can do the wide one or yeah, and
it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
And methew, are you writing a friendly note because I
think that that's quite amusing because you've gone to you're
writing on their car, which is quite aggressive, but it's like, hey,
just so you know, you're parking in my spot and
i'd really appreciate in the future if you wouldn't thank
you so much of a great day.

Speaker 26 (01:27:15):
But agree, But that's but that's a nighb of Matt.
So you want to maybe be thee and keep the relationship.
But in a public car park that someone's taken over
to parkes you just want to say you're an absolute
dem wet. You know it big and bold, so then
other people walking by see it and then of getting
it off.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
This is brilliant a great tip. That is actually a
fantastic tip. You might have solved the whole situation there
because you are you're seending a nice message, but you're
also enacting a little bit of revenge and there's a
little bit you're feeling.

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
Better about it.

Speaker 23 (01:27:50):
Yeah, it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
I think you might have nailed that and they can
feel grateful you didn't get them to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Exactly Matthew, thank you very much. Quick text then we'll
take more of your phone calls. Toying costs the offender
four hundred bucks release fee. So that is it's pretty major,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
And especially if it's a neighbor, then that is really
huge thing to do to them. And if it's your park,
they'll see you packing there quite a lot. They'll know
that you did that, and it's quite hard to come
back from that. And you might need that neighbor someday
for something. Maybe your house is on fire and you
need them, you know, maybe you have a heart attack
or you know, maybe you need to be resuscitated by them.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Well, when your dog Colin got loose, well that was
about a month ago, right, yes, and you got the
whole neighborhood helping to try and find Colin. Turned out
it was quite a funny story. But this neighbor that
was parking your car park might have been the one
to find Colin.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Yeah, that's true, actually exactly. You don't know what's going
to happen down the track.

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Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty six to four.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
We're talking about parking and how quickly you go to towing,
especially in your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
It's an article that you wrote on on substack metteath
top substack dot com. But I've just and called me
a bad co host, and maybe i am, but I've
just read the conclusion.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Oh it didn't do your research, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
But the offender. I mean, this is going to be
good when you tell the people. But the guy who
was parking in your car park, I can't believe you
got into a squabble with this guy. Anyway, that's coming
up very shortly at Justin. How are you mate?

Speaker 27 (01:30:43):
Yeah good, that's I've just got to a story on driveway,
a shared driveway situation and parking.

Speaker 13 (01:30:49):
Yep, yeah, yes.

Speaker 27 (01:30:51):
So this is where we're living down near Wellington and
Caperin and we had our house was down a sheared driveway.
We had like an whole kind of a house at
the front a rental and there's this guy. He keeped
parking at the station Wagan on the side of the driveway,
so trying to get like we had an oys for
people move it, and I just had it was like

(01:31:11):
millimeter's clearance to try and squeeze past. So I went
into had a word and said, you know, because you
move your car and just park it down in your
car park by your house.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Reasonable.

Speaker 27 (01:31:22):
So he did that, yeah, And then so then he
started used to get up early as a baker at
three in the morning, and then they turned the lights
on and they'd come through my son's window two year
old at the time, and this carried on, and I
kind of think I can't remember whether I had a
word to him or not about that. Might have gone
and said, look, because you please not just dip your
lights when you leave. It will be good, you know,

(01:31:42):
it's just not not the best. Anyway, We put the
house on the market a few weeks later, I don't
might have been months later. A few weeks. Every open
home the partner of this guy or girl, she would
blast the stereo.

Speaker 9 (01:31:58):
Name.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
So hang on a minute. Those those two quite reasonable
requests that I assume you've you've delivered an appliit manner,
have riled them up to your point that they are
trying to do you in on the sale of your house,
that they are bad people.

Speaker 27 (01:32:14):
They were just now he worked, She didn't. They are
just feral, you know, kind of low low obviously, are
just miserable people. So then we sold the house. Finally
the removal guys come out and she comes out and
goes psycho at them. They'd pull down the driveway and

(01:32:35):
she came out and just starts yelling at the removal guys.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Yeah, well, I mean I guess just go psych Well,
one thing that you can you can hold on to
with that? Is that a you don't live by them anymore,
but also that people like that their life is going
to be miserable no matter who that moves in next door,
no matter what happened exactly.

Speaker 27 (01:32:55):
They'll interesting, isn't it?

Speaker 17 (01:32:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
It is interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Well, clearly they are bad people, because anybody else, surely
in that scenario, if you're a half decent person, you'd
be late. I'm so sorry. I didn't know that floodlight
was going into your boys room. I mean you just say,
let's be good neighbors. I didn't know that was a problem.
Let's move on. Yeah, far right, Kieran, you've got a
parking situation.

Speaker 24 (01:33:16):
Yeah and again good Yeah, people burging over me driveways
that brought me there so have been in at twenty
four years, I'm up to two hundred and twenty people.
There's been an issue there with the twenty foot boat,
a truck with we hear us on the back of it,

(01:33:40):
even the policewoman. If I see them, I go out
and say something. In all the teams, what they say back,
I usually it's not offered them of equally because they
try to make it my problem and some of the
money have to move needs equal with ten feet and

(01:34:02):
they're not over me driveway, but they still not offered me.
I live next door to a mechanic, and I can
come out in the morning and will already be a
car that know me driver at seven o'clock because they've
dropped the car. They that missus has come and picked
them up.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
And yeah, it happens a lot around mechanics. That's that's
a classic situation is one not far from my house
because there's so many cars coming in and they've got
so little parking and this isn't your problem at all,
but they've got to move the cars in and out.
People are in a hurry they drop them off. I've
been in that situation dropping a car off a mechanic.
There's no whay to leave your car. You want to

(01:34:42):
just go on and throw your keys. So you're in
an unfortunate place there. But are you are you towing people? Karen?

Speaker 14 (01:34:49):
No?

Speaker 24 (01:34:49):
No, The thing is one to scooter and it's in
the in the driveway. I leave it the halfway at
the goroadway in somebody talk offence to me, snotting off
with them. In some stage in the night they come
along and just underneath the speedo you flip the hand up,

(01:35:11):
busted all the pestalk off and rip the watering.

Speaker 9 (01:35:17):
Get it fixed.

Speaker 24 (01:35:18):
So I do anything, because if I do anything, they
know we are a house to pick on me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
What about having a chip to the mechanics. What did
the mechanics say. Did you go and have a chip
to them and say, guys, I know you're just running
a business here, but we kind of a sort of
carry on.

Speaker 13 (01:35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:35:34):
Well, I usually go out to them and say do
you know anything about this car? Oerion and known? But
they look at the keys and oh yeah, yea, and
they go and move it for me. But sometimes they
usually due here take away at the end of the street.
I watched the cart was eve for half an here.

(01:35:57):
I just put the nose underneath the windscreen wiper and
the dude came walking down the street. Yeah, he wasn't
at the mechanic place.

Speaker 22 (01:36:05):
He was there for it.

Speaker 24 (01:36:07):
Maybe with the we hear so on the back of
the truck. There's a bus company just down from me,
and she left two bus certainly drive away and she
used to go away and do the school runs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Oh well, all the best for that going forward, sounds
like a complicated situation.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Yeah, hopefully, I hope things keep it if you're on
that front.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
But also snotting off. I haven't heard that saying snotting off.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Yeah, I mean way to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Yeah, I know what he means by snotting off. I'm
going to use that off with a few people.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Hundred eighty Matt's got an issue with well had an issue. Actually,
there was a resolution on this about someone parking in
his car park. Decided not to tow this person. Ended
up that was a probably good decision that you didn't
call the tow truck on this person.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Yeah, that's right, because it turned out what happens in
the end. After leaving a note and then a couple
of other things, I didn't go for the huge amount
of revenge I was thinking of. I didn't shove a
banana up the exulting like that, or mbia wheelibin on
the car or anything. I did write little note on it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
He thought through though the options on the table.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Then I thought, I'll just time it so I can
do the honorable thing and have a chat to the
person to just explain it. When I did, it was
an elderly gentleman who had just got the park wrong.
How old I'm going to say, I don't know. I
didn't look at his birth stificate. He felt like nineties,
and he was a very lovely guy, and he was
embarrassed about it and he just got it wrong. So

(01:37:40):
I'm so glad I didn't toe his car because that
four hundred bucks or whatever it would for the car,
or done something terrible. I would have felt so very bad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Imagine the headline Matt Heath radio personality, he tows the
car of an elderly gentleman. It would have been a
bad look, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
So I guess the thing is, and that's what Karen
was saying. There was a bit of snotting off from Karen,
But the thing is the first thing you gotta do
is going try and engage with the person. Either it's
a note or was suggested riding on the windscreen of
the Vivid.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Yeah Parking dramas. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number of call. It is eighteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
When you walk your new home of Afternoon Talk and
even Tyler Adams Afternoon Call, Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
It's a quarter to four.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
We're discussing parking dramas. Dan, you've got one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Get ideah, can I mate?

Speaker 15 (01:38:37):
You're oh, so where all of there's four of us
in the house. All four of us got cars, right,
So when we parked in the front of our house,
it pretty much fills up our frontage. So someone always
just end up parking across the driveway, which is cool driveway, yep.
But when whenever we get a visitor, there's no do
you want to do territory, there's no real real estate

(01:38:58):
in front of our place to park, So you've parked
somewhere along the streets. An old duct lives across the road,
God bless it, but who doesn't own a car, and
if you park in front of her house, she kicks off.

Speaker 13 (01:39:09):
It's my driveway.

Speaker 12 (01:39:10):
You can't pack in front of my house.

Speaker 15 (01:39:11):
Blah blah, all that kind of jazz. And you try
to mean with it as best you can. And we're
going along for quite a while, and so we're to
visit a guy parked in front of ther place. She
came out kicked off, like, well, it's not parked in
front of the driveway or just you know, just in
that real estate. It's in front of her house. And
then the next day we ended up getting one of

(01:39:31):
us got a council ticket for parking in front of
our own driveway.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
What hey, how does that work? It's a public road.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
I've seen the seven before.

Speaker 15 (01:39:39):
Apparently it's the thing. It's just a council thing. Even
though it's your driveway. You're not allowed to park in
front of a driveway. It had never happened, like in
the street, nothing ever happened. And all of a sudden,
out of the blue, after this interaction with the Old Duck,
council member came down the road ticket.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Just ask your quite question. N when when when you're parking,
when people that are visiting you are parking in front
of the Old Duck's house, are you parking across her
driveway or just in front of her house?

Speaker 6 (01:40:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Not at all, No, No, So then what's her beef?

Speaker 12 (01:40:11):
Was?

Speaker 15 (01:40:11):
Where she's going off?

Speaker 14 (01:40:12):
It's her Bobby can't pack there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
The curtain twitches.

Speaker 9 (01:40:15):
You know, you don't own what.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
She's got a strange view of the world that you
can't park in front of someone's house on the on
the on the road.

Speaker 15 (01:40:25):
In that incident, when one of our friends was there
and she was kicking off of him. There's another person
just walking down the road with a dog, and that
person kicked off at the old duck, saying what do
you want about lady?

Speaker 23 (01:40:35):
You don't even own the one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
And obviously have you tried to extend an olive brunch
or you know, just just taking her a week peace
offering and say, hey, we started off on the wrong
foot here.

Speaker 15 (01:40:49):
Well we just would basically where we're come and someone
comes around, we just don't park over the beast. You
can't park down a ways because she can out of
the way. Doesn't seem to be the most It's like
every street's got that one grumpy person.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
Now do you think do you think it was Do
you think it was the old Do you think the
old dark ranger rang rang up on your driveway? Do
you think it was her that dobbed you in?

Speaker 15 (01:41:12):
Well, well, one of us at the house to be
in our real estate, that's the street. Someone always has
to park in front of the driveway. Yeah, and we've
been there four years, right, Yeah, nothing ever happened. The
day after that incident, council comes out. I think it's
one of us because and the thing about we can't
park in the house. If we park in your house,
in theoretic can wear in somebody else's footprint. So we're

(01:41:32):
trying to be good by just staying in front of
our real estate. So if we don't park in front
of our driver, we're literally parking in front of the
old duckshouse.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
It was definitely her. I mean, t a b Odds
would be a dollar ozh five that it was her.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
But I'm always I'm aways quite impressed with these people
that you know, like you say, the old Duck, that
that bolshie, and that that they're willing to start a scrap.
I mean, you've got four cars parked out in the
front of your house. There's a few people involved on
the other side of the argument. So she's she's willing
to fire up against some pretty big odds.

Speaker 15 (01:42:05):
Oh yeah, it's begin Like I said, you know, this
is it one person and you're it lives down the street.
There's that grumpy person shaksfast at moon the whole time.
It'll be your rubbish bin is not aligned? Is it's
a wrong rubbish on the wrong day. It is a
bit of rubbish. They walk past the wall. Jeez, you
should you've got a broken peeling on your fence. There
should give that, you know, that person like, yeah, okay, cool, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
Well, well once again you've got to you've got to
take that view in life that thankfully you're not here
and that you're living in a fun situation where you've
got people coming around to visit so many that they
have to park on the other side of the road
and you've got you know, four cars in your yard.
So in life, you're definitely winning over over over here.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Yeah, thanks very much to you. I mean there is
quite often there's usually one right the colonel of the
Culd de sac, or or one person in the street
that takes it upon themselves to maintain what they they
think is a letter of the law. And it sounds
like this old duck maybe too much time on her house.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Yeah, like we've heard snotting off today and old duck.
These are two expressions that I'm not that familiar with.
But yeah, you know, but you know, she's not the
letter of the law because you are to park on
the on the road. That's one of the rules of
you know, we all pay our rates.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Just can someone can you explain to me the situation
so he was parked in his driveway and he still
got fined.

Speaker 15 (01:43:19):
He wasn't on the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Foot He's across his own driveway.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
So right, so you've got the footpath and then the
car is across the footpath and the driveway. Oh, I
see what you mean, horizontally over his driveway.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
That this happened to me when I was working at Donaldson,
Derry and Needing many many years ago. I'd park the
truck in front of and cover our driveway and then
a parking person would come and ticket it. And you'd say,
but I'm doing it to unload, and they go, well,
you're blocking the wave, so I'm only blocking the way
for myself. Yeah, So that is the rule. You can't.
You just can't park in front of driveways with it's
your driveway or not.

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Speaker 23 (01:44:41):
Yeah, So, basically we live down like a one way
one way street and right next to our property, we
have like a long driveway that goes to three properties
and they're quite large sections.

Speaker 22 (01:44:55):
And basically there's one of the guys.

Speaker 5 (01:44:58):
He's quite an angry guy, but.

Speaker 23 (01:45:01):
He looks after he looks after a like a car
for a friend or something like that, right, And but
they parked they parked it right in front of our
like on our driveway, like just enough that we couldn't
pull him properly into our driveway driveway.

Speaker 12 (01:45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:45:21):
Yeah, And so I had asked him, hey, you know,
do you think that you could move that? You've got
heaps of parking space on your own property. To to
just park it up, especially if it's you know, if
it's not you know, being driven, and it was going
to be part there if he said, it's going to
be parked there for a month until his friend comes.
And unfortunately I was a little bit of a Karen

(01:45:45):
and I did call the counsel and then they ended
up ticketing it, and then they ended up ticketing it
for no waft, no region as well as illegally parted.
And then he came over and knocking on our door asking, hey,
did we did we call through? You know, did we complain?
And then my wife said, yeah, we actually did, and

(01:46:07):
then he just blue has lowdown asked.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
So hang on, But you have asked him, You've said
would it would it be okay? You've come in there
in a reasonable fashion and said would it be okay
if you didn't block our access to our own property
And he hasn't done that. So I mean he must
know in his heart of hearts that he's in the
wrong here.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
Definitely, surely.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
Yeah, And especially if you're running a no warrant, no
ridgi's situation, you want to be very careful where your park.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Yeah, don't be chucking stones in that scenario. But again
it goes back to to me, if someone's rude to you,
then you're rude back as And that guy was clearly
being an a hole there. You tried to do the
right thing. He threw it back in your face at
that point, press the button man go nuclear on him.
And you did that, and I say good on you.

Speaker 23 (01:46:54):
Six months on though hasn't happened since.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Yeah, good man, good resolution.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
One back for the good guys.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Yeah, well that is us for today.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
I was speaking of good guys last week. We were
talking about cobblers and homemade stuff, you know, stuff in
New Zealand good quality and spending some money to buy
staff yep. I was down at the City Farmers Market
at Britomart on Saturday and I came across these people
that make canvas bags called GA bags. Give me a
zealand there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Oh yes, nice man operation is it?

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Yeah? Yeah, there's a man and his wife and their homemaker.
They're making the bags themselves and selling them in the
market and you can look them up online. GA Bags zip.
But I thought i'd give them a shout out because
I brought a quality bag off them. It was a
good price, so well made, handmade in New Zealand. And
you know we're talking about people buying things on Timu.
I bought this and I feel so good about it.

(01:47:45):
What a great bag. So I thought i'd give them
a shout out. They were lovely people too.

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