Full Show Podcast: 22 August 2025

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 22nd of August 2025 - First up - the big defence spend up.

Then if you use your bin less in Napier you will be charged less - what other ways could you rates bill be reduced?

And to finish planning for a successful retirement. 

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Speaker 1 (00:58):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons, News Talk.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Said, be.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Friday show. Always
feel good on off Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Get a man. Speaking of feel good, yesterday we were
running a feel good show. You were down in christ Church.
I was up here, but betwixt us we were pushing
the narrative that maybe people should stop winging so much
and we need to clear away the cobwebs as the
nation and clear the Malays, and much of the Malays
is just a product of our attitude to life. And

(01:35):
I came across this before in an article in the spinoff,
actually written by a very very talented New Zealander that
you may have heard of, called Bill Curtain, but he
was quoting someone else, and this is the quote from
a Bob Kerrigan, and it was the job is not
to bemoan the times, it is to create the times.

(01:55):
Love that, and I thought that was the epact. That's
an epic way of saying the obstacle is the way, Yes,
which you're big on. Yeah, I'm big I'm big on
whatever's happening. You know, you don't complain about it. Whatever
the economic environment is, whatever the political environment is, whatever
the environment in your family is. That is the problem.
So you hit the problem front on and you just
get on with it. Yep, it can't change it all
the way. But then before I was I was talking

(02:18):
about how Gandalf had summed this up very nicely to
Frodo and the Fellowship of the Ring okay, and so
here's this, here's this, this this very important audio from
from from Gandalf.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I wish the ring had never come to me.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I wish not that this had happened. So do all
you have to see such times. But that is not
for them to decide. All we have to decide is
wanted to do at the time of just get.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
The twos.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
As deep Gandalf, make that man prime minister, that is
you know I can get behind a message, right.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
That, Gandalf on my eye, Gandalf the gray at that point, yeah,
what a man. Well, we have to do is decide
what to do with the time that has given us.
Good on you love, get.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
On with it, cared on with that, right on to
today's show, doozy for you because it is a Friday
after three o'clock New Zealander of the Week. Plenty of
potentials there.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah. Yeah, As I said before, the current front runner
front runner is it's going to be controversial if it wins. Okay,
if they he she won wins, all right.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
There could be some angry people out there.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Also.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
We want to have a chat about preparing for your retirement.
Great story in the Herald today about healthy approaches to
aging effectively. A lot of experts say the seventies of
the new fifties. A recent study done by the International
Monetry Fund analyzed forty one countries and they found, on average,
a seventy year old and twenty twenty three had the
same cognitive ability as a fifty three year old in

(03:52):
two thousand. So that's a big change in twenty three years.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, my word, fifty three year old's so dumb back
in the year two thousand. It's a good question.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Hopefully they are that in the survey.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Have seven year olds got smarter or fifty three year
olds got dumber? That's the interesting question there. But the
earlier you start planning for you retirement, the better, right,
So that's but that's not just not just financial, right.
At some point you should sit there and go what
do I want my retirement to be?

Speaker 8 (04:15):
Like?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
What I want to be doing, where do I want
to be all those kind of things. And it's not
something that you think about on the day you turn
sixty five. No, not that anyone retires at sixty five anymore.
But it's not what you think about then, it's you've
got to start thinking about it when you're well, thirty, yep,
if you're really onto it. Forty fifty definitely sixty, one

(04:36):
hundred percent sixty. Hey, if seventy year olds are so,
a fifty three year old is really really smart now
as well? I hope so. Have they got requests? Have
they got smarter? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
How fine you go on that one. But anyway, that's
going to be a great jet after three o'clock. After
two o'clock, the n aps City Council are telling their
residents if they only take out they've beens twenty six
times a year or less, they'll get a rates discount.
So effectively, you know, less waste means that the councils
saving a bit of money and they'll pass it on
to the rate payers.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Disgusting just leaving your horrible, revolting, rotten food and your
rubbish bin for an extra week. Here's a bad neighbor.
It's a bad neighbor, disgusting Napier residents that do that.
But the wide question is what do you think about this?
If you use things less, should you pay less rates
on them? I think that's an interesting idea. You know,

(05:27):
if you don't use parks, do you pay less?

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
If you can prove that you only use certain roads.
Do you pay less if you never ride a bicycle?
Do you not have to pay for bike lanes?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh, here's hoping. Here's hoping. It would be a good one.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
If you widen out and you're one of those people
like Bruce Willis in the movie Unbreakable m Night Shamaland
movie and you never get sick, you know, it'd be wealthy.
Do you not have to pay central government for healthcare?

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Looking forward to that chat after two o'clock.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
But right now, let's have a chat about these new
military aircraft that the government has purchased. So they've revealed
these new planes. They will replace the Defense Forces aging
seven five seven's Defense Force Minister Judith Collins and Foreign
Minister Winston Peters unveiled the plans to purchase these military vehicles.
It's five inmates sixty R Seahawk helicopters and two Airbus

(06:22):
A three twenty one XLR aircraft. They are very very cool.
But here's a little bit of the Defense Minister Judith
Collins this morning. These are once in a generation investments
which are vital down payments on our future security and
our prosperity. So she was very very pleased when she
made this announcement, as you would be, big smile on
her face, and Air Vice Marshall Darren Webb was pretty

(06:46):
chped as well.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
Well, it's a great day for defense and we're extremely
excited with the announcements. Having the right tools to do
your job safely and effectively is hugely important for our
people and so it's going to be a big game
changer for us.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You'd need more of everything though, basically, wouldn't you.

Speaker 9 (07:00):
Well, I think five new chopiss a really good place
to start, and the team up at six Squadron and
I are really excited to get their hands on them
as I can. And of course the new A through
twenty on XLR will be a really nice change up
from A seven five seven.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
If you're driving a Yarus, what have you traded up to?

Speaker 9 (07:17):
Well, the Seahawk is a state of the combat capable machine.
It has advanced eyes and ears if you like to
detect to then target, track and if necessary prosecute targets
both on the surface and also subsurface and so and
what is an increasingly complex world out there that is
the tool to.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Do the job. Does this help recruitment.

Speaker 9 (07:35):
I think it does. I think you can. You can center.
It's propable morale lists when we have new equipment and
our people are experts at getting the most out of them.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
So very happy in the camps of Defense Minister Judith
Collins and the Air Vice Marshall Darren web Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
And we'll talk to Deputy Prime Minister David Seymore at
about one point thirty about this. We've got any questions
about it? I know that his party. We're very in
favor of increased defense spending, so there might be some
questions there. So what do you think about this? Do
you think they've got it right? Do you think we
should spend more or less or none on defense? You
think that manned aircraft are the way to go? Or

(08:12):
is it going to be all drone in the future
of these this two point seven billion dollars worth of
aircraft's going to be obsolete obviously. The air buses that
are for transporting humans that they have to have people
in them, absolutely, yeah, yeah, but you know, you know,
is drone technology going to replace all this stuff? It's
I mean, you have to you have to spend something,

(08:32):
you do, but well no, actually I'm pre you. Maybe
you don't. So many people are texting here, you don't
need to spend anything on defense, right, So a lot
of people out there believe that we should be spending
this on something else.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Come on through. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty and two.
All the people texting through saying we don't need to
spend any more on defense, and some even saying get
rid of the defense force altogether.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Love to hear from you, Love to hear the rationale
around that.

Speaker 10 (08:56):
One.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I want.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Nine two ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I just can't imagine someone that that locks. At the
model of the the MH sixty RC hawk that Judith
Collins had in Parliament and Jerry Brown had to grab
it. It looks so cool though passing it around. I've never
seen politicians so happy in my life. I mean, you've
got to say, what if you think about them? They do?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Look call they have the very cool machines. Absolutely, Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.
It's quarter past one.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
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Speaker 2 (09:35):
News Talks EDB. It is eighteen past one.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
We're talking about the new military vehicle purchases the government
has announced. So it's five MH sixty R Seahawks and
two Earbus A three twenty one x l r's. They
are impressive pieces of kit. Just a few technical specifications
on the Seahawk helicopters, so they're manufactured by Lockheed Martin.
It's a multi roll maritime helicopter designed for anti submarine

(09:59):
and surface warfare. Measuring nineteen point seven six meters in length,
it can reach speeds of up to three hundred and
thirty three k's an hour, has a range of nine
hundred and six sixty three k's. Operated by a crew
of three, the Seahawk can carry over fifteen hundred kilograms
in utility mode and is equipped with a suite of
weaponry including MK thirfty four anti sub torpedoes, AGM one

(10:22):
one four hal fire missiles and a crew served machine
guns and advanced precision killer weapons systems. Whoo, that is
a hell of alicopter.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Wow interesting, but you haven't impressed this text here Just
one second, I'll just bring this text up. I thought
it was interesting. Spend on military attract war, says this text.
You bring a war mindset to a country and you
will get conflict. Bombs and missiles are designed to go off.
They will reap what you sew when you spend billions

(10:51):
and billions on killing. That's an interesting concept that. Have
you heard of the concept of Chekhov's gun. No, so,
Chekhov's guns. Chekhov was a great story writer, Russian storywriter. Anyway,
if you see a gun in the first act of
a movie, then it has to go off at some
point and later on in the movie, right, yep, very
disappoint So if you see it doesn't go off, it's disappointing.
But if that just means if you see a gun,

(11:13):
you go well, later on that's going to come up
to be used.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
So this this person's kind of using Chekhov's Chekhov's gun,
which is a literary device for reality. So if you so,
if we see these helicopters, we will then attract war.
We've got to use them at some stage in the
third act of this country.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Interesting. Take oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
John. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Hey, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Very good?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's the story. Hey, look, just a couple of quick things.
I think that previous text you said doesn't quite you know,
understand the reality. And the reality is none of the
spending is really going to help without offense and in
any great way on its own. But what it's doing

(12:01):
is sending a message to our allies that we want
to contribute and so and really we've seen with Trump
that if you are not spending, you know, more than
what you have to on defense, then these people, like
the States are not going to like it. And you know,

(12:23):
Europe's a very good example where they're up there spending
to assist Ukraine. And the other side of it is
that if we don't do this sort of thing, then
we're likely to be slapped with tariffs. And I think
a lot, a lot of the spending there is also

(12:43):
a signal to the US that we want to spend
on their weapons and equipment and that might help our
balance of trade with the States. And and you know,
so those two things on their own to me and
why we need we need allies, we need coalitions. You know,

(13:04):
we can't defend ourselves on our own. So you know,
this idea that we shouldn't be spending on defense is
just a nonsense really. And if you look back to
Ukraine when it had nuclear weapons and there was an
agreement there back in the day to do away with them,
saying that Russia and the States would protect them, well

(13:26):
looks look what's happened there. So this meaning to me,
it's about sending a message to our allies that we're
going to work with them.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's interesting that we went for the Airbus A three
twenty one xl R instead of the Boeing equivalent. And
you know, in terms of our balance of trade with
the States, might have been quite handy to buy a
couple of Boeings off them.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, I agree, But where did the helicopters come from?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Lockheed Martin, Lockheed Martin, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, right. You know, we need to work in with
other people rather no one suggesting that we can defend
ourselves on our own. That's yeah, that's nonsense.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, well, just on that point. And I've just seen
the line in the in the document and it's a
big document. So these vehicles would be procured directly through
the United States Foreign Military sales program instead of going
to a wide attender.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
It is going through the United States. They're sorting it
out for us, and by the sounds of it, they've
offered us a pretty good deal. That's that's what the
government has said.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Anyway, I won't wonder how simple it is, John. If
they go, you know, in New Zealand's and some kind
of defense issue, they go, what's New Zealand again, let's
have a look how of that country there? Hang on
the mart let's oh, yep, they've brought some stuff off us. Yeah,
well we're going to we'll we're coming on and we're
going to defend that.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I mean, I think Trump's are pretty simple thinking and
just the final comic guys that these same people who
are saying we should spend nothing on defets are probably
the same people who are saying we could we should
be contributing to, you know, in terms of global climate change,

(15:04):
whereas we make our you know, effect on carbon emissions
as zer point one seven eighth or something of a percent.
So you know, there's a great irony and that sort
of things. So yeah, that's my two thoughts that it's
about being working with our lives.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yep, John nicely said, thanks very much for giving us
a buzz. Have a nice weekends too, buchh go Well
eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Love you get your thoughts on this? Is this good
value for money? Is this a good spend? Two point
seven billion dollars or the vast bulk of it going
into five are pretty serious helicopters and two airbus A

(15:44):
three twenty one XLRS love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's interesting, isn't it? Because that person before was saying
the exact opposite of, you know, the very famous Roman saying,
weren't they They were saying, spend on military and attract war.
You know, you bring a war mindset to a country.
Bombs and missiles are designed to go off. They will
you wrap what you say. That's exactly the opposite of
you know, want peace, If you want peace, prepare for war. Yeah,

(16:09):
well so it was Puckham pala bellum.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So Chekhov's gun versus Roman philosophy. Yeah, Raman philosophy all
the way. Checkoff's guns for movies, No, checkos gun is
absolutely accurate. You know, have you seen the movie Shawn
of the dead. Yes, they actually called the gun Checkov's gun.
So there's the gun.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Very clever.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty work, full lines.
If you can't get through, keep trying. And plenty of
texts coming through on this as well. Nine two ninety two.
Good value for money or is it a poor spend
by these vehicles? It is twenty five past.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
One, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic
asking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
So the wonderful world of the Central Bank and their
view of where we're asked Christian hawksby acting Reserve Bank
Governor's back with us.

Speaker 10 (16:51):
And it's really been the economy stalling over this Q
two that's revised down, and that's what we're responding to.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
The Q two. A lot of people saw it coming
and were yelling and you didn't. How come you didn't
see it?

Speaker 10 (17:02):
Well, we saw some of that come through in the
early phase and we indicated that there was some signs there.
Since then, there's been even more signed till.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
We've got more confidence that we can lower rate. So
we can lower them very quie great.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, but you should have done that already.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
We just look forward from from where we are is
all we can do. We played a ball in front
of us.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Back Monday from six am the Mike Husking Breakfast with
Rain Drover News talk z B.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Very good afternoons. You we're talking about the bulk of
the two point seven billion dollars spent on five new
pretty serious helicopters and two Airbus good spinds.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, good spin and some good sayings coming through. Better
to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener
in a war Love that great phrase. Great who said that?
That's a great saying? Yeah? Was that Machia Valley might
have been. We'll look that up. You got any good
quotes on this issue? Run through.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
DYMI and how are you mate?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Very good?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
And what's your thoughts about this money spinning on this
new cat?

Speaker 11 (18:04):
Well, I mean people out there that don't think that
we need a defense forces through needs to have a reality.
I mean people out there right obviously have a home
and content insurance for their home. So it's like having
an insurance policy. You know, if it wasn't that long
ago when we have Chinese warships and the Tasman Sea
going all the way through Australia all the way through

(18:24):
to the Tasan Fea, So we had not idea what
they were doing. They went out there in terms of
you know, just having a quick lock it around. These
were ships out there that could destroy cities, all right,
So yeah, people out there really need to think long
and hard in terms of what it defense force starts. Yes,
we might not be attacked, but you don't know that

(18:47):
there's somebody ore at Crystal Hall.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Great, tell me if I'm going to win win a
million dollars?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Do you agree with John? And you're quite right, Damien.
It was pretty terrifying those two massive war frigates that
were traveling through the Tasman Sea, and even Judith Collins
at the time was a bit confused about why they
were there and maybe a bit of a signal on
their military prowess. But do you think it is the
purchase of this through the US Military Foreign Sales Office?
It is about having those closer ties that we're buying

(19:15):
some of their locally made weaponry and equipment to get
better aligned with their military prowress is do you think
that's the one of the key parts here of the spend.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yes and no.

Speaker 11 (19:29):
If you look at the helicopters that we're getting. I mean,
I'm quite a military above and aviation as one in general.
But the thing is with the MH sixties, they are
highly reliable. It's not about sucking up to America or
anything like that. These are highly capable maybe helicopters. There's
ones out there at the moment that are not as

(19:50):
capable as these ones.

Speaker 12 (19:52):
These have the.

Speaker 11 (19:52):
Ability to actually track and identify targets and then prosecute
it's necessary. So it's not so much about sucking up
to them or coming up to in terms of getting
a better deal. These are the better deal for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, I suppose when you look at these five new
helicopters in the two airbus they are impressive military vehicles,
no doubt about it. But those five helicopters is you know,
it's like a Tonka truck versus a tank when it
comes to what China's got. So it does seem to be,
you know, to me anyway, it feels like we are

(20:29):
buying this equipment to better align with our allies, so
that we have got a concerted force and a bit
of a message to China that we are part of
a bigger military organization, and you can't be you know,
waiving your I was going to say something I shouldn't
say on radio, but you shouldn't be showcasing your military
prowess and thinking that you can do what you like

(20:50):
in our part of the part.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Of the world.

Speaker 11 (20:52):
But it's not so much about saying to China, hoy,
we're able to get you. I mean, we're not obviously
going to be able to defend ourselves against China. I'm
not saying that at all, but we have the ability
with the antac alliance that we have, as well as
the likes of UK, Singapore all the other countries that
we have alliance with. But we have the ability to

(21:15):
actually say, yes, we can, we can help. We can
we can help. But the other thing is with the
answer twenty one xlrs, you've also going to think that
the reason why they probably didn't go with Boeing was
due to the fact the current Boeing fleet is not
that great at the moment, the way in which Boeing
at the moment, you know, which they're sort of like

(21:36):
maintenance issues that they have with the engines and that
sort of thing. But the XLR is a highly capable aircraft.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, absolutely, Damien, really good to get your thoughts. Thanks
so much for giving.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Us a buzz. All right, thanks well, have a nice weekend.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call,
really can to get your thoughts on this. Coming up
after the headlines though, the ACT Party long campaigned for
more investment in our defense force, So we're going to
have a chat to ACT Party leader and Deputy Prime
Minister David Seymour on this purchase. He is coming up
next at is twenty eight to two US.

Speaker 13 (22:12):
Talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's no
trouble with a blue bubble. A seventeen year old boys
in a critical condition after being stabbed outside a home
in Hamilton's Malville. Police believes seven people were involved in
the altercation on Slim Street around five pm yesterday. Fonterra
says it's sell off of iconic brands like Anchor and

(22:33):
Mainland could be one of the biggest transaction in New
Zealand history. It's reached a deal to sell its consumer
and associated businesses to French dairy giant lack delease the
three point eight four five billion dollars The Prime ministers
conceding its highly unlikely tariffs will reduce. As the Trade
Minister makes his case to US officials, Chris Luksen says

(22:55):
the President's very fixed on his views. Emergency services are
getting their hands on new technology to help locate people
in need. The Device Location Information Service can be used
to locate the mobile phone of a person who is
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(23:16):
Biavana will welcome more than twelve thousand people to Wellington's
Sky Stadium across today and tomorrow. Plus SkyTV profit tumbles
on challenging economy and satellite disruption. Find out more at
NZ Herald Premium. Now back to Matton Tanta.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Thank you very much, Wendy, and we are discussing the
government's purchase of five new Seahawk helicopters and two Airbus
A three twenty one x l rs. The EC Party
long campaign for more investment in our defense force, and
we are now joined by EC Party leader and Deputy
Prime Minister David Seymour. David good afternoon, Hey mass, Hey Tyler.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
David, So what specific threats is new Zealand facing that
justify spenning two point seven billion on new aircraft, and shoppers.

Speaker 14 (24:01):
Well take them one at a time. With the aircraft,
most countries have some ability to move people at short notice,
whether the troops, humanitarian aid, diplomats going on missions to
promote business or whatever. Basically every Western country has some
sort of planes, often much poorer countries than us. Their

(24:23):
leaders seem to have bought much nicer planes than we have. Anyhow,
we're getting a pretty good deal here. The seven five
sevens were bought second hand, I think in nineteen ninety
three when I personally was at primary school. They've kept
them flying somehow, and that's a big tribute to the
engineers at the New Zealand Air Force who can keep

(24:44):
anything going. And yet those planes were relatively modern technology
compared with the old sea Sprite helicopters. We had five
of those, and the oldest one hasn't actually seen action
since the Korean War. It was literally used in Korea,

(25:04):
and somehow the engineers at the Defense Force have kept
it f buying until now. So we're now going to
replace those and that's where the idea of the threat
comes in. The fact is that we now have a
contested space in the Pacific. You've seen recently the Chinese

(25:24):
fire and missile which landed near French Polynesia. You've seen
freedom of navigation. I guess they'd call it powerful flotillas
of Chinese warships through the Tasman Sea recently. And you
just don't know what are the challenges you might face

(25:45):
as people start to compete over minerals on the seabed
around fishing grounds. The New Zealand's defense force needs the
ability to patrol our exclusive economic zone and act as
a deterrent to people who would come and take things
that are legally belonging to New Zealanders.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's crazy, isn't it. That whole Korean War thing that's
Hawkeye Honeycot times that it's pretty insane. Is this US
procurement route about more than defense though? Is there a
New Zealand USA economic relations aspect to it. There's not.

Speaker 14 (26:24):
I mean, obviously it's good to be close to our
friends in the world, But I can honestly say I
haven't been directly directly involved, but I've been a member
of cabinet that's considered the different papers. In fact, I
chair the Cabinet Committee that we've put through the paper
a couple of weeks ago on the choppers, and there
has been a robust case made considering a variety of

(26:47):
different possible helicopters, and these are honestly the best one
probably if we were making any consideration around allies and
buying the helicopters. It's the fact that the Australians have
twenty something of the Seahawk helicopters and being interoperable with
them as important. But if you look at our procurement

(27:08):
of the airplanes, we've actually gone for two air buses,
which is a French German company. If we were worried
about the Americans, I guess we probably would have bought Boeings.

Speaker 12 (27:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Further, that thing you say about the Australians and the compatibility,
how much do you consult with Australia on what we
get for our defense force. Do they go through and
say that'll be helpful, that wouldn't could you do this?
Could you do that?

Speaker 14 (27:36):
I wouldn't frame it that way that they're basically calling
the shots. But one thing that I'm proud of with
this government is that since we got into office, we've
actually really made a concerted effort to get out there.
So if you look at Chris Luxon, you know, always traveling.
Winston Peters is out there traveling an awful lot. Todd

(27:58):
McLay has been going to India just about every week.
The poor guy went to India just to have dinner
if it helped with the relationship, and that shows the
free trade agreements that he's getting through a difference there.
And then Judith Collins has been over there having bilateral
meetings with the Australian Minister of Defense. So right across
the board, but especially with Australia, we are reaching out

(28:19):
again whereas previously. And I know people don't want us
to spend our time begging the last government, but I mean,
whatever you may think of Nanaya Mahuta, she was the
Minister for Local Government and the Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Now you cannot be in the Hay Europe at one
day and in Eketahuna talking about pipes the next day.

(28:39):
It's physically impossible. So you know, we really have as
a government worked hard to build our connections and that
especially includes with Australia. So when we buy stuff, it's
not that they're telling us what to buy. But it's
that we're working together.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Now I'm just looking at the text machine. What do
you say to the people that are texting in that
say they would prefer this money was spent on other
parts of our economy.

Speaker 14 (29:02):
Well, it's a bit like insurance, right. It's always tempting
to say, well, money's tight, let's cut down on the
end insurance. And of course that's a good short term solution,
but I don't know that it works for you, and
I think most people intuitively know that's not wise. The
thing about a defense force is that you kind of
buy it hoping you'll never actually use it. But if

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you have to use it, then you're very grateful that
you paid the money, because by the time you need it,
it's too late to invest in it. And I think
if you want to make a comparison, we are currently spending,
or at least until recently, zero point nine percent of
the economy. Our goal is to get up to two percent.

(29:43):
I'm proud that's happening. That's what the act Party campaigned for.
And it's not like we're into government spending. I mean,
it's one of the few things we think the government
should spend more on. If you go across to Australia,
they're already at two percent. We won't get to two
percent until twenty thirty two. The Australians by that point
are on track to be spending two and a half percent.

(30:05):
So you put it this way, if there was a
serious where would be asking the Australians to come across
and help us. Now are they going to divert their
military assets away from protecting Brisbane and Sydney and Melbourne
and Perth in order to protect Auckland, Wellington and christ

(30:25):
Church if they know that we have not made the
investment and do not have the capacity to help them
when they need it. It really is as simple as that.
If you believe in the ANZAC thing, you've got to
put your money where your Mouthfice.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yep, nicely said been. There's been a few techs David
about the incident in February with the Chinese warships and
the Tasman Sea and I believe Minister Collins words at
the time was that was quite chilling. Does that come
into play here when we look at the investment that
was announced, the twelve billion in this investment in the
new military equipment which are impressive pieces of cats. Does
those sort of incidents come into play.

Speaker 14 (31:00):
Well, I mean, I think those incidents are basically the
highlighting of a trend that's been going for very long time.
I remember, I think I was on this radio station
back in twenty nineteen and I was saying, look, I
think probably the most significant thing that's happened in New
Zealand this year is the installation or the presence of

(31:24):
Chinese ships and care of us. And I actually have
to look on the map to realize how closer it is.
This has been coming for a long time, and we
have got to start adjusting to the reality. I believe
New Zealand started quite a few years behind. We did
try and win the election earlier to start addressing this,

(31:45):
but the people didn't want us then. Now that they did,
we are taking steps to prepare for a reality that's
been coming for a while, and these incidents with the
ships and so on that they're just punctuating what we
should already know.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
So for all the people that are texting and saying
that they'd prefer we spend the money elsewhere, there's about
five to one texting that we should spend more, and
maybe that say something about the audience for me entire
afternoons on NEWSTKCB. I'm not sure, but if we wanted
to get super serious, don't we have to spend billions
and billions of.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
More?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And look, if we could afford it, what would our
dream defense force look like? Are we talking going as
far as fighter jets, I know, stealth well as robo soldiers?
What do we want?

Speaker 14 (32:29):
Look, I just take the view that you know, there's
always going to be sensied around our alliances with the
rest of the world. But I think if we can't
at least do the ANZAC thing and be in lockstep
with Australia, then we're in real trouble. And I would say, look,
the New Zealand economy is about one sixth of the
Australian economy, so I would say, look, if they're getting

(32:50):
six squadrons of F thirty five, maybe we should do
a deal to have one too. If they are currently
buying Japanese warships, which they have just agreed to buy
a dozen Japanese frigates, maybe we should add a couple
onto that order and basically play our part in an
ANZAC alliance. Now I'm not saying that's the government policy

(33:12):
to do that, but it's a principle that I think
is probably a good way of thinking about it. And
then once you've established that principle, start cutting your cloth
and thinking what you can and can't do. The other
thing I'd say is, I think what is being taught
to the world in real time by Ukraine is that
often smaller autonomous vehicles, drones and the like it can

(33:38):
be a lot more effective than having an entire army
of very expensive hardware, as the Russians found out, at
enormous costs. So you know, we should be first of
all ANZAC focused, in my view, Second of all, just
keeping a little bit of space for the possibility that
technology can change the rules of the game very quickly,
and we should try and tap into our key spirit

(34:00):
of being nimble, number eight, wire and innovative.

Speaker 15 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, I mean that's the thing, isn't it. I mean,
are you worried that in a few years that are
four hundred dollars dry and we'll take down our one
hundred million dollar choppers.

Speaker 14 (34:12):
Well, you'd kind of think that the choppers will have
defense systems that will keep ahead of the four hundred
dollars drones.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
What about.

Speaker 14 (34:25):
Well, it's at some point there'll there could be a
ratio there, but I think it's a bit higher.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Than the one year proposed.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, and David just quickly that's too humble to ask,
but he'd really like to go up in one of
the Seahawks when they come into the country. Can you
make that happen?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
The Seahawks will be bringing them back.

Speaker 14 (34:41):
Yeah, no, you can, but they won't arrive until after
the election. So if he votes for me and encourages
all his listeners to then I'll be in a position
to help.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Oh all right, I'm in high stake Sta. Really nice
to have you on.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, really appreciate your red time. Thank you very much
and we'll hope soon. That is Deputy Prime Minister and
Eight Party leader David Seymour. Can you get your views
eight hundred eighty.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, what do you think about this more or less
spending on defense? And do you like what we've selected it.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
As twelve to two the big stories, the big issues, to
the big trends and everything in between.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
They'd be very good afternoon, Sean, Thanks for hanging on.

Speaker 16 (35:24):
Oh hi there, I hope I can remember everything I
wanted to say, but I'll be quick. As I've been told,
I think every helicopter that comes into this country is
a massive asset. These machines. Yes, they have maritime capabilities,
but that aside just the rescue. The firefighting that these

(35:46):
machines can do is incredible because of their size and
because of the size monsoon buckets they could lift. And
I just think that that is probably a big, bigger
asset than the maritime you know what you know, with
the the kind you know, the borders and whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, spot on. So I mean you're you're all for
this sort of spending and what more of it? Shure
we need more and more of these sort of military.

Speaker 16 (36:19):
Vehicles exactly one. David mentioned Australia with the F thirty fives.
That is a waste of time. If I would rather
put the money into more helicopters than that I used.
I used to fry them years and years in the eighties.
So I think their use is incredible to save lives

(36:45):
and obviously to defend the country as well. Yeah, multi use,
but F thirty five it's got one use only and
that's it.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Sure, and thank you very much. Good to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I've got an apology to make to you, Tyler, Okay, please,
I thought you said skyhawks when you said Matt would
like to go in the skyhawk, But you did say seahawks.
Did say sEH I thought that you'd made a mistake.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I should have said kakas helico and then we all
would have known what I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
So, because the last Seahawk I saw was when I
was down at or Hockey and they've got one that's
concreted outside the barretts are staying in anywhere, I was like,
what's Tyler talking about it? They have they taken out
of the concrete For me to have a go apology,
I put on that you're an idiot voice when it
was actually me Tyler. That was the idiot's apology. Except that,
thank you very much. Mate. It is seven to two.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Newstalks be news dogs there be. It is five to two.
There's been thousands of texts come through over the last
hour on this one, like this one, guys, that all
sounded pretty logical. From David Seymour. The insurance analogy was good.
And if we're piggybacking off and Aussie defense order and
it's getting us a better deal, that can't be a
bad thing, which makes a lot of sense. And this

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one here, yes, guys, absolutely, we need to be investing
more into our defense force. Without kit like this, we
will be the laughing stock of the world, which we've
been to which we have been for far too long.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It's interesting, if Matt and Tyler Afternoon's text machine has
anything to go by on nine two nine two, it's
about five to one in support of spending the spending
and most people saying we should spend more. Yeah, it
feels like the world's changed in recent years. Soon people
are looking around. We used to think New Zealand, we're
just isolated in the middle of the South Pacific, no

(38:36):
one's going to cause us any problems. But more recently
everyone's going, ah, well, just seems a lit little bit
discombobulated at the moment, isn't it nice?

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yep, nicely wrapped up right, coming up after two o'clock.
Let's have a chat about rates discounts for putting out
your bins less times a year. That's what Napier City
Council is doing. How far do we go with this? Oh,
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number
to call. How would you feel if you've got a
little bit of a rates discount for mowing your booms,
not using the road so much, taking out your rubbish less?

(39:05):
Is this a good idea? Or is this crazy town
really keen to have a chat with you? Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to call. Nineteen
nine two.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Texts seis Packham parabellum. If you want peace, prepare for.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Nice talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
News TALKSI bey very good afternoon to you. Seven past two.
Hope you're having a great Friday afternoon. Now this is
going to be an interesting chat. Naper City Council is
offering a discount for residents who only take their bin
out a certain number of times of years. So currently
it's a weekly pick up on the old waste collection

(39:48):
in Napier, but they have said that a rates. Discount
for households that put their bins out for collection twenty
six times or fewer each year will apply how much
you are, So households that record those twenty six times
a year or fewer will receive a twenty five percent
discount on their collection portion of their rates bill.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah, I mean that does seem fair if you're not
using it that you pay list. But have they thought
about the wider ramifications of that, because you could you
could just do that everywhere, on every part of it, right,
you can say, Look, I don't I've never been past
that fountain yeah in town. Yeah, so I don't want
to pay for my proportion of that fountain.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Never been to that park. That's another percent off my rates,
will thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, I only drive down this these roads, so I
only want to You know, I'm a very boring person.
I only drive between here and work, and I only
live four hundred meters away from work. You, I only
want to pay for that percentage of the road. So
surely if you can do it for bins, can't you
do it for absolutely everything and then it's winded it
out to the government. You know, I don't I have
you don't have kids. I do not have kids, so

(40:53):
why are you paying for the education of my kids?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
That is a great point seeing that saying that to
the beehive, give me a discount.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, people with health insurance might go, why am I
paying for for other people's health? Yeah? I wait?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
One hundred eighty ten and eighty. How do you feel
about this? The old scount for not taking your bins
out every week? It's in Napier City Council. They're going
to give them a discount. But how far do you
go if you mow the burns, if you don't drive
that much? I mean, should this be rolled out across
every line in your rates bill to try and keep
things down?

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Really? Ken to chat with you?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Oh, eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
So would work? Like you've got tags on your bins? Like, yeah,
so you've got tags on the bins that shut that.
So if you've got those tags, you're only going to
put them out every second week, right, yep?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, so they can regist that every time they pick
it up. It's we dang right, that's one time and
it's fewer than twenty six per year. So what's that
once every fortnight.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
So if you see those tags, you know to stay
away from that house because they're you know, their bins
are going to stink more than yours. You can see
the flys from miles away. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call love to hear your thoughts on this.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
And you know what's going to happen, right, these people
that are only fifty percent of the time bins and
looking Christich it's always like that, right, Yeah, that's lazy
from the Christiach City Council. You get a discount on
my rates for that. But you know what these these
people are going to do that are doing the halftime,
They're going to do those ninja missions like I do
at night to go and put my excess rubbish to
other people's bins. Yeah, so every two weeks you put

(42:16):
it out, but on the off week you're just putting
it in your neighbor's bin.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, but you offset that because you actually pick up
random rubbish on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
And what this Jeff has got this point here, I
live at rural and get no bin pick up at all,
have to pay private company.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
It's from Jeff that is a great point. Yeah, rural people,
how do you feel about this? O? W eight one
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Plenty
of texts coming through A nine two ninety two as well.
It is ten past two.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said
be for.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
A good afternoon. So an api a city council are
offering a discount to residents who only take their bins
out twenty six times a year or fewer. How far
do you go with this? So one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
This texasy is everyone in Auckland should get a discount
for not using the stupid food scraps bin, the dumbest
scheme ever, which we should have given up a long
time go and had the ability to opt out of.
I mean, I often send you a little photo, don't I?
You tell that when I'm putting out my bins, they'll
very proud of it when you when you put out
your little green bucket. I never put out my green bucket. God,
is that what you're getting from those photos? That's what

(43:21):
you are right? You're seeing your smash down the street,
up and down. My god, I escape it. My point
was that there's hundreds of bluebans, hundreds of red bands,
and then there's only one little green bin. And that
was my point. And so you thought I was showing off.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I thought all this time you were so proud because
it was your green bend. But all along you were saying,
this is just such a waste of time.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I'm so embarrassed about all those taps. I'm embarrassed now
as well. I'm just thinking, oh man, no, no, see,
it was exactly. I was just going, look at the
stupid little green bean. Only one person uses it.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I didn't want to break your little heart by saying,
why are you putting that out?

Speaker 16 (43:56):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Nobody does. I was wondering why you were six and
good on your mate. Congratulations, Yeah, all right in the show.

Speaker 17 (44:04):
Okay, thank here, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, God, what do you reckon?

Speaker 15 (44:08):
I reckon?

Speaker 17 (44:09):
It's a hard one. I've born rides on a farm,
and doesn't matter where your farm was to be to
click your milk, so it just it just came out
of a pool. So they wanted milk to you know,
make money out of. So that was just the way
is everybody paid. There's no so you pay them all
because you're another fifty k up the rail. It all

(44:29):
goes in the pool and they work out that's what
you get paid to kilogram or whatever if for your produce.
And that's the way it is. In the same as
they counts. They can't do it. A customer shiploads on
our administration pieces and minister. They basically they make it
overall costing and that's.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
One as you can't do that.

Speaker 17 (44:46):
They just got drive them mad.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
So this idea, you think that's they've hit the balance, right,
do you? Because it's it seems pretty easy to register it.
They've all got these little tags and when they get
picked up beat beats so that registers to your property.
That's an easy way to do it. But if we're talking,
you know, mowing your burns, how do they figure out
who's mode the boom and who isn't?

Speaker 17 (45:07):
Well, yes, think that's really probably you know you do
you want them to come around and mow your lines
and your rates will go up?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I don't know. But what about when they take services
away but don't take your rates bring your rates down?
Like when they stop mowing booms? In Auckland. They didn't
suddenly lower the rates, did.

Speaker 17 (45:27):
They oh doing that like the council parks or whatever.
You must say, well, you're not. We've been paying your
rates for this has been going on for so long. Well, now,
like you say, I do agree, I want to reduction
my rates so that you're not cutting those booms anymore.
But when it comes to your residential booms, I think
that's basically I think it's probably your responsibility or do

(45:48):
you want men to come around? And then also you
got to watch out on that one too, because what
they might say is, Okay, we'll come around and park
on your booms, and you're also going to charge you
for parking on your boom.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
You like that because I actually enjoy miwing my booms
to the point while I'm mowing my neighbor's booms as well,
because I just know I just enjoyed mowing. Yeah, I
think a lot of people out there probably enjoy moing.
This is something very bit cathartic about it. I absolutely
love it. But I also believe if you mow your
own booms, then you can do whatever you want on
your booms. That's why I planted a massive a herdic

(46:19):
tree on there. I've seen that.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
It's a good looking tree. Yeah, it's too late now
they can't do anything about that. It's protected now.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, I fear from my neighbors piping, but anyway, that's
another issue. But yeah, I mean so if you could
take if if every time they took off a service
PETE or offered you to opt out of a service,
they lowered your rates, then maybe I would support that.
I mean, what would you opt out of PETE if
you could?

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (46:46):
Oh, that's a hard one because most of them they
have a rubbish in it, So what do you do?
They don't collect it, they use that service. But overall,
you can't please everybody. As I said before, you have
they have a happy medium otherwise. Yeah, it's a hard one.
The plus I said, it's hard to please everybody. I
think the counsel they think they're doing the best. If

(47:08):
you want to start saying, oh I only want to
use it, if you come in and pick mine up
every two weeks or what do the trucks still want
to go past? Or probably whether you don't want it,
but the next house does and the next one. Now
there just be too much. Yeah, have a hassle for them,
and I think you just got to put all on
the pool and they work it out. Sorry, we can't say, Lord,
do you want to get rid of the wrong library too?

(47:29):
Where do you stop?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah? Yeah, thanks for you call, Pete, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I'm just having a look at my rates bill here
and there's a couple of things I'd like to opt
out of. Can I just run you through a couple
of them here? So at the moment for waste minimization,
I pay one hundred and seventy six bucks a quarter.
I'm okay with that. They take my bins away. The
Heritage Arts Center, I pay two bucks a quarter. I
want out of that. I've never been to the Heritage
Art Center. I don't want to be paying two bucks
a quarter for that. You know, that's six dollars a

(47:53):
year that I could be happily spending on a coffee.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, but I think it's a slippery slope there, though, Tyler,
isn't it who pays for motat in Auckland? Because God,
I love Motat, So I don't want people that don't
go to motet not contributing. If Motat is paid for
by the council.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
You might take on the bell. Oh one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. What would you
opt out of if you could? From your rates bill?
Really keen to hear from you. And is this a
good idea by the Napier City Council giving you a
discount for not putting out your bins so much?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
And side topic, is it all right that I sneak
out at night and put my rubbish in other people's
bins before they get picked up the next morning? This
Texas says, Matt, don't break the law and put your
rubbish in other people's bins because God will give you
a spanky spanky after God invented spanky spanky.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Yeah I did, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, very true. Spanky spanky alright.
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is another to call.
Eighteen to eighteen bus two s.

Speaker 7 (48:47):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on used
talk ZV for a.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Good afternoons you. So we're talking about the Napiers City Council.
They are offering a rates discount for people who take
their bins out twenty six times or fewer each year.
And we are going to have a chat to Stephanie
Wilson shares the n APR Council's waste minimization lead. So
if you've got a question for stuff nine two ninety two,
but looking forward Devan who on in about ten minutes time.

(49:13):
But we're taking your calls on this.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah, and the secondary topic, because I didn't know you
weren't supposed to sneak around at night like a ninja
and put your excess rubbish in other people's recycling bins
and rubbish bins, because once it was out on the street,
they're like, what difference do make to you? The next
stopp is the refuse refuse transfer center and it all
gets mixed up anyway in the.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Truck and no one's getting to discount up here at
this stage.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, So I mean, and then that would be the
way you hack this system, right, So you know, on
your on weeks you put it out in your and
your wheelibin, on your off weeks you ram it into
your neighbors wheibin hundred.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Percent, oh eight hundred eighty and eighty is met me?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
This busines says, if I catch you putting stuff in
my bin, I'll taser you, Matt. Yeah, good work, I've
been tasted before. I think that's I think I don't
think the punishment fits the crime on that. Maybe just
splash me with a garden hose, Jeff, how are you mate?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Get it? Mate?

Speaker 18 (50:04):
Maybe you need a spanky, spanky mate.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I quite like the sound of a spanky I might
to spanky spanking from some people.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
Yeah, that's random.

Speaker 18 (50:12):
Anyway. I want to talk about the green bins and
why Auckland does have such a hate for them. I mean,
if you could, if you could someone said to you
that said, hey, look guys, we're going to reduce dumps,
reduce refuse, and we're also going to make a product
that can help things grow. Wouldn't you jump at it and

(50:34):
say that's a great idea, because that's what green bins are, right.
They reduce a lot of our.

Speaker 19 (50:39):
Waste that's going into landfill, huge amount, and a lot
of that waste is used to make composts, really good
composts that then councils and companies buy back off the
waste places.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, but that system that you know, that may be
a virtuous system, but systems also have to be practical
and people actually use them, if you know what I mean.
So that sounds fantastic the way you put it. But
then when we look when people like me just use
the insincorator and just blast everything down there, then it's
hard for me to change my habit habits. And then

(51:15):
because what do you dow?

Speaker 18 (51:17):
Is it hard for you, Matt or for you just
being stubborn, Like seriously, I'm not you know, I'm not
like my parents who've got leftovers for Africa and the
freezer and you know that, you know they recycle with everything. Yeah,
I'm somewhere in the middle, and I use a green
bin and I don't find the hat at all. You
just chucked in ice can contain on the bench from
the fridge, chuck my scraps in there, and then at

(51:39):
the end of the night day they go in the
green burn. I washed out once every couple of months,
like it doesn't even smell that bad.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's I tell you what. That's
one thing to say about it is it's very easy
to wash out. And they did put the little you
got the little liners in there as well.

Speaker 19 (51:53):
So for the sake of our wiled Matt, come on,
I tell you what it does feel for me.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
It feels a little bit like one of those free
gifts that you got from the supermarket for spending a
certain amount of money. You know that you've got the little,
tiny little milk bottle. It's like a tiny little wily
in some I'm not quite sure how to deal with it.
It's a funny little bit. Yeah, it's kind of cute.
Now what do you say? What do you say to
people like me that put their funny little green bin
into the blue recycling bin.

Speaker 18 (52:24):
I don't know why you were doing that was there?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
He wants it recycled.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I didn't want to just throw it out, so at
least I recycled it.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
So it was a half middle figure to the council.
But he did the right thing in the end.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I hope the truck leaves it there and you kind
of pip.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I'll tell you what, Jeff, though I agree with you,
I agree with you. You might be surprised, jif. For a
very long time I did run my own composting situation
in the yard, and I found that very satisfying.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (52:55):
I love running a compost. You know, you get the
shells in their bit of brack.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, it feels there's something that feels so good and
natural and like you're in line with your you know,
your DNA. When you sprinkle your own compost on your
own garden. It feels you guys are weirdos. You guys
it weirdos.

Speaker 18 (53:11):
One of one of your one of your colleagues. Hitherto
see Ellen. You know, she goes on about it, bangs
on about it being what a waste of time, the
green bend. I think that's dangerous. That's almost trumpish.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
You know.

Speaker 18 (53:22):
She should be on planet's side and expousing the virtues
of the green bend.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
M Yeah, well you know, yeah, maybe I'll tell you
what I wouldn't Jeff. But I'm scared of him that
see Allen, So I won't pass it on. We all are.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, we'll pass the notes in.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Just say it's from Uji.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Thanks, you go well Zealand. Absolutely eighty is the number
to call. Nine two nine two if you want to
send the tikes, plenty of those coming through.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
If you put your rubbish in my burn and the
council rejects my bend, then I am going to come
for you. No, I only put legitimate rubbish.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, but I'm not going around a contrabands going in there.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I'm not putting toxic ways in there.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Are cheeky beattery from time to time.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I'm just putting the normal household waste that I don't
have room for in my bin because I forgot to
take the bins out last week. That's basically all I'm
doing there. You're a good neighbor halfway anyway, But it
looks like, yeah, boy, there's a rising tide of people
that want to taser me on a number of issues.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
A lot of people angry at you. And it's twenty
six bars do here, line's coming.

Speaker 13 (54:27):
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Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Thank you very much, Wendy.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
So, as we've been discussing Napier residents who cut down
they're weally been used by composting and recycling, could see
their rape bills cut down too. To discuss further, we're
joined by Stephanie Wilson. She is the naper City Council
waste minimization lead and she's on the phone now Stephanie,
thanks for joining us.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Ah, You're very welcome. Kyoto everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
So what is an RFID tag? How does this and work?

Speaker 5 (56:09):
So? An RFID tag is a little tag that is
attached to each wheeliburn and it's it's exactly as it says.
It tags a bin and you are able to identify
the bin to a certain adreates, right, and that's how
we can We can they know that ben belongs to
that ad rate and we know that we've lifted it

(56:31):
or we know that we have not lifted it because
they've not put it out right.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Okay, I say right, So you know at the end
of the year, you know how many times you've emptied
the bin? How clever?

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Yeah, So a little bit like what's those things the
apple tags or let's say you can put on your bag.
You know where your bag goes, you know where being
bin is. But yeah, we use it in terms of
knowing how many times we've lifted a bin. We'll be
able to track and monitor so that that leastwise incentive
can apply.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
What a wonderful future world we live. And can you
opt out? So if you're going along, so and that
just means if you opt back in so you suddenly
one week you get, oh, I've got heaps of rubbish
this week, I'm going to put it out. That sort
of covers that off, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Yeah, So yeah, if you don't put it out, we
will go past and because we've not lifted something, we
wouldn't know that it's there, and then the system would
just go no, nothing was lifted. And that is previously
people had to follow a fourth night a calendar, and
so we're taking we're removing that barrier now and you
can forget about the next week and then oh no,

(57:33):
next week, the following week, you've got pop it out there.
And if you get lost and like how many times
you've done it within your twelve months period, you can
call us up and we can look up your address,
provided you've obviously applied to be part of the same
week and set up and go, yep, you're on track.
You definitely have flipped it or put it in out

(57:54):
twelve times for the year or something like that.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
So you have to opt into this, So it's not
going to be an RFID tag on every bin. You
have to decide you want to be part of the program.
Is that correct?

Speaker 5 (58:03):
Yeah, So every bond does come with an IFID tag
on them. Ever, because our technology is slightly different on
each on the trucks for the way operators that we
use we monitor and track, it slightly different. So we
do ask people to opt into the scheme if they
are a property owner, and that way we can monitor

(58:27):
that property. In particular, the only time you will need
to reapply for it is if you've solved your house
and you want to continue being on the scheme for
the next property you purchase.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Right well, only time you need to.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Offer well thought through Stephanie. So what talk to us
about money? How much could the average residents say if
they are, you know, a good citizen and they only
put their bins out twenty six times or fewer.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
It depends obviously on what you're right now, but it
is that that small portion twenty five percent of the
portion of what you pay. So it's not one hundred
percenture exactly what the figures are because our rates have
increased and I've not checked with our rates thing just yet,
but as the twenty five percent off that individual rate,

(59:16):
that's targeted rate for your rubbish collection?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Now, what do you think of people like me? And
this might sort of break the system. Who sneak out
at night and put the extra rubbish in other people's bins.
We call ourselves ben Ninja's or wheeli raiders. Will there
patrols looking out for late night rubbish rogues.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
That's a difficult one to police right now. You need
resources to do that. But in terms of during the day,
our trucks are really smart. They've got about seven different
cameras on each truck and often we've called people running
across the right trying to put it out again.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
You publish those photos as well, Stiff, so that you
have to be here. You have to be an organized
wheelie raider. You can't do it as the truck's coming
down the street because you forgot. Yes, you have to
do it the night the night before. Would you support
discounts across other council services like don't use the library
pay list, don't you use the parks pay less, you know,
don't cycle, don't pay for cycle lanes.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Would I support something like that? Well, I don't think
I such I can comment on that, like I do.
Just pay your rights and you make sure that that's
the city that you live in as a great place,
and you tap into those amenities.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
That you can use, but you can see can you
see what I'm saying? So if if you know, if
they're picking up the bins as a service and that's
going to be more you know, how much you use
is how much you pay? Could you see that that
could be rolled out across other services.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
It depends on on what the incentive is for that.
For us, it is we want less ways to end
up going to landfall. You're using a park, I don't. Yeah,
that's my focus, that's my cobabba, that's my field of egretsy,
So I can only talk about rubber, I think ruby.

(01:00:59):
I've just been informed about the amount, the dollar figure
that that you get off of your rub percentage per year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
That's sixty dollars, all right, sixty bucks per years. Yeah,
that's pretty good. Well yeah, Stiffaney, you can only talk
about rubbish and I seem to only be able to
talk rubbish. So we've got something in common. So thank
you so much for talking to us today.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
And then yeah for people who have now applied, because
people of the applications have just been splooting in which
is amazing to see. Love reading the comments on Facebook
that people are really doing the right thing and now
being able to be rewarded for what they're doing. Is
that once you've applied for it by the thirtieth of December,
that rate remission will apply for the next rate of

(01:01:45):
all year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, well, great, dear is getting a good response and
all the best with that, Stiffaney. And if you catch
people like Matt going into the middle of the night
putting rubbish in other people's bins, if you can publish
those photos, I think you'll do every favor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You'll never see me. I'm like a ghost. You wouldn't
see me. The cameras will pick me up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Who knows. There might be some infrare technology.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Out now you're talking, now you're talking. Yeah, you're a
good sport. Thank you very much having a chat with us, Stiffney.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Oh good guys, have a good way you too. That
is Nake's see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah, that is that is Napier City Council Waste minimizationally
Stephney Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
She was backing it wholeheartedly. She certainly was. Will you
expected to yes, the Napier City Council Waste Minimization lead.
She wasn't backing it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
No, one's going to very true. Oh, eight one hundred
eighty ten eighty. Would you like to see your council
do something similar?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Can you hear from you? It's twenty three to three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler
Adams Afternoons News Talk said be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
It is twenty to three. Now I owe you a
bit of an apology, actually, Matt. Yeah, so there's a
text that's come through. I'll read it out here. The
joke about talking rubber should have had way harder. Matt
Tyler should commend you publicly for that. Yes, absolutely, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
When I make a joke, I expect full it's side holding,
side spilling laughter from you, Tyler. And there was none
of that. There was none of that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
So the line was to paraphrase you said to Stephane,
who was fantastic. So you deal with rubbish and I
talk a lot of rubbish, so we've got a lot
in common here. Stefphaney laughed. She got it, and not
a dicky bird from me. So I'm sorry mate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Now what I actually said, Tyler was, you know you
can only talk about rubbish and Tyler can only talk rubbish,
so you too have got a lot of comment. That's
what I said, yeah, and that's why I didn't laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
This is a good point. The sex is sent through
on nine twenty five percent discount for putting it out
only fifty percent of the time that repee is getting
ripped off. That's right. If it's if you're putting out
half the time, why don't you give fifty percent off?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Where were you when Stefphaney was on the line, We
could have put that to her. It's a very good point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
It's a great question. We'll try and follow that out.
Jolly good idea. I say we put our bags out
every five weeks approximately now in the countryside of Auckland.
We are forced to use a bin, so as we
pay for it, it will be used very often as
we can't opt out. It's an interesting thing here. So
if my landlord decides to join the to reduce as rates,
then I get reduced service and the landlord gets the

(01:04:16):
cost production.

Speaker 15 (01:04:17):
No what.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Because of the RFI D tag, you can put it
out as much as you want, so the landlord might
opt in and hope that you put it out less
or maybe even unethically put pressure on you to use
less rubbish so they save some money. I guess it's
not a lot. I mean it's sixty a year. Yeah,
so I don't know how much pressure landord is going
to put on you around the issue. But you know

(01:04:40):
you get if you if you, if you need to
put it out every week, then the RFI D tag
will notice that and your landlord will pay the full rates. Yep, Yvon,
how are you hi?

Speaker 20 (01:04:51):
Are you love you?

Speaker 8 (01:04:52):
Boys? Anyhow? That's getting onto it. We live in a
walk close or we have an LG space and our
rates tell us that we have to pay a huge
amount foot polls and for transport, and of course we
don't have anything. We had to go to Silverdart to
get into a swimming pool and we don't have any

(01:05:13):
trend but we have wonderful busset pops up around here
three or four times per day Pagerson to walk withst.
We simply don't get any other luxuries of being in Auckland.
And we be here because we didn't want to be
an Auckland. But boy, our rates are huge yes, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Been hearing about this and it does seem pretty unfair.
And so if you took this napier waste management model,
then you guys shouldn't pay for the services that you
can't realistically use. You should get a discount for them.

Speaker 8 (01:05:47):
Right, they don't exist for us at all. So the
general rate is three and forty one eighty seven. That's
just for the general rate, and then for the parks
and poles and library foot paths it's sixt hundred and
four and then all the rest of it transports one
hundred and first days and it just goes on on

(01:06:08):
on five brands. And I mean, like sirrecally, you know,
we've built our home, we go our home, We love
where we are to see. But for a lot of people,
if my huby didn't have a sleeper as tension as,
we could not live in our beautiful home, and they're
just rating so many people out from around here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Is there is there any sort of movement to push back?
I think I was reading something the other day. Is
there any way that you can directly partiyeh.

Speaker 19 (01:06:37):
There is.

Speaker 8 (01:06:37):
There's a man called Ivan wegg Staff who's really put
the hours and he's doing something, and I definitely there
is a movement against it. But I mean they told
us five point eight, which is just bull because that's
not what they sent us. And you know, like most people,

(01:06:59):
we've had grouped all our lives and meet hell like
seventy my hubby doing sixty nine. And we like our
boating and fashin that stuff. But we paid our Jews
and we're happy to pay rates for what we get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, it's absolutely fair enough.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
The power, yeah, I mean it is a hard one though,
isn't it for people like a Vonn? And I get it.
A von doesn't come into Auckland anymore if you get
in charge for all these lovely things that are in
Auckland that she never uses, including you know, the rubbish
and the parks and all the rest of it. But
what do you do do you do? You geotag someone
like a Vaughn and as soon as they come into
thecinity of Auckland then they've got to pay a wee fee.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Well, no, I mean normally you you know, there's something
similar to other people where you're paying your rates, if
you know what I mean. Like so if you live
in Duneda and you pay different rates than if you
live in Oamaru. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So
it's just so. The argument would be that the super
cities so large, it takes in places that are totally

(01:07:57):
and utterly different, with different needs and different services. You know,
so just by the mere size of it and the
rural nature of some of the areas, it's unfair.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
But I'll tell you are I'm dirty on this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
The stadium in christ Jets, beautiful stadium, fantastics cost a
fortune and I really thought the people are Selwyn good people.
The people are why Mucker Eddy good people. They're going
to be using that stadium. They're going to be coming
in and join Elton John while he's not doing anymore.
But all those lovely concerts and all those sports games
don't have to pay a dicky bird for that stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Well so should I pay rates for in Dunedin? Because
I went to for Soyth Bar to watch the All
Blacks the other day?

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
How much did you pay for the ticket?

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Nothing, I was in a corporate box as usual, But
but you get my point. Yeah, yeah, I hear what
you're saying. You know, just in a wee fee for
the tourists coming in. Yeah, Matt, you are forgetting rates attacks.
They are not directly related to services. You pay for
hospitals but only use them once a year. Would you

(01:08:59):
like community communities with no pools or parks? Yeah, no,
I'm not. I'm not advocating for this. I'm just saying
that that is the logical extension of what they're doing
here with this are RFID tags. So if you can
do that for rubbish, you if you tag it, and
if you use your bin half as much you get
a discount. Then there's an argument that that could be

(01:09:19):
extended over everything. So why are bins different from parks? Yeah?
Why are bins different from community pools? Nicely said, I
mean you generally pay a an entrance fee to council
run pools. You don't know what I'm saying pools. It's
because I'm a big fan of Mark Whitney. Do you
remember watching that show that was called Who Dares Wins?

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Great show?

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I remember. One episode is like you gotta transits these
wheel pools.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Yeah, this is a good text here. Sixty dollars discount?
What an absolute joke. I would give my neighbor one
hundred bucks a year to use has been for the
twenty six weeks, so I get seventy eight weeks worth
of rubbish disposal. Not a bit option, Actually all right?
I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is thirteen to three, the issues that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
Affect you and a bit of fun along the way
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams after dudes, NEWSTALKSBB, NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
It is eleven to three, and we've been discussing what
Abs City Council are doing. They're giving a discount of
twenty five percent about sixty bucks a year for any
resident that only takes their bins out twenty six times
or fewer each year. Good idea or stupid? Oh eight
hundred and eighteen eighty plenty of tixs coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Guys, got to turn off my mic. It's one hundred
and eighty, one hundred and eighty ninth show today. I
think grahats to give the Tyler it is congratulations to you,
but still not turning on my mic when I go
to speak. One button is too many in this place. Hi, guys,
My small commercial property in East Tamaki has rates of
thirteen k per year, but no rubbish or recycling service.

(01:10:47):
As it's an industrial zone. We get absolutely nothing for
our thirteen k year. Yeah just six. Yeah, we'll not
absolutely nothing, But that doesn't mean for you, I mean
you to get sex me. We have a bear section
in Matarangi, seven hundred and fifty meters square, no power,
no water, just a flat section three thousand per year
for rates. We only visit to mow the lawns. Okay,

(01:11:10):
it's nice to have a section of MUTTARRANGI. To be honest,
I mean, are you going to do something with it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Yeah, just just build something on it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Be nice. I live semi really, says James. We have
no foot pass. Their road isn't sealed. We have to
take our council bins five kilometers to a collection point.
Council don't maintain our roadside drain. We have our own
water supply and our own septic tank system, and yet
we pay full whack. It sucks, especially considering how much
it costs to essentially supply our own infrastructure. Yeah that's

(01:11:37):
not right. Yeah, that does seem a little bit unfair.
So this person's angry at me for my what have
been going out at night and putting my rubbish in
other people's bins when I've got too much rubbish. So
this is all in caps, very angry. So does that
mean you're doing a disservice to your neighbor by adding
your rubbish to his bins? That's from jewels? What is

(01:12:01):
a neighbour here if you add rubbish to their bins? So,
so you know this is this is the way round,
you know. This seems to me to be the whole
floor in this situation here in Napier is can't you
just go out and put your rubbish and other people's
bins on the week you don't want to do it?
I mean a lot of effort to save about thirty
bucks admittedly, but you know people get territorial with their bins.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Like I'm kind of with you. It all goes to
the same place.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
And what do you care?

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
But going out at night and what did you call it?
A garbage ghost?

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
I'm calling I think of myself as sort of a
beIN ninja, a wheelibin raider, a garbage ghost. I guess
you could call me, what's another one? A trash troll,
a rubbish rogue. Whatever. You know, at night you go
to put your bins out and you go, you know,
you've got all this rubbish in the garage and you go, look,
you know, And I'll just go and I'll just go
and sprinkle that like a garbage, like a rubbish fairy.

(01:12:56):
I'll just tiptoe up and down the street putting rubbish
in other people's bins. What do they care, They've already
put their bins out. They don't even more rubbish. It's
just going to all go in the truck with all
the other stuff. They won't even know about it. So
am I just supposed to sit my own Let's set
in my own filth for a week until there's enough
space in my Wheeliban.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
I love you, mate, rubbish Fury, It's good all right.
Eighty is the number to call, Adam. How are you mate?

Speaker 21 (01:13:22):
Get a lad's Hey? It's a victim less crime, isn't it,
being a bin fiery?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yeah? Absolutely, I don't know if I like the name
bin Fury as much as I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Put all we too too on nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 21 (01:13:36):
Hey, I'll get right to it.

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
I heard you say earlier.

Speaker 21 (01:13:40):
We don't pay a nickel up in ymker Aria for
the new U Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yep.

Speaker 21 (01:13:46):
I completely agree we should be paying for it. I
would love to for it, and I absolutely plan on
using it. I can't wait till it's opening.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
So good.

Speaker 21 (01:13:57):
But if it makes you feel any better, I thought
i'd I thought i'd raise this. In my rates that
I got recently, we had two very interesting lines.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Of ing in there.

Speaker 21 (01:14:10):
One was the running of the Canterbury Museum, which we
all know is in running at the moment, and the
mothballing of the Canterbury Museum. And so why are we
paying for mothballing and the running of it when it's
not running?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
That is a very good point.

Speaker 21 (01:14:29):
And I'm not even in christ Church, so nef it
makes you feel any better, we're paying for that, but
we're not paying for the stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Yeah, that does make me feel better. Thank you for
their Adam, And this might make you feel worse, but
just going through my rates bill, I don't think we're
actually paying for the mothball Cannebury Museum. So thank you
to the good people of why mukad Eddy.

Speaker 21 (01:14:48):
You're very welcome, mate, I have a great day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Good on your dam Thank you and why muck at Eddy,
by the way, fantastic, fantastic place.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Oh sorry, Sharon, welcome to the show.

Speaker 20 (01:15:00):
Good, How are you good?

Speaker 22 (01:15:03):
I've just been going through my rates.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Ah, here we go.

Speaker 22 (01:15:09):
And we paid I'm not a licence, And we pay
for a library that we've just been booted out and
now we have about quarter of the size of the library.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
We used to have.

Speaker 22 (01:15:19):
And we pay for a community center that we don't have.
So the library charge is one hundred and seventy one dollars,
the community center is two hundred and thirty one dollars.
We also pay for the Canterbury Museum levy which is
forty dollars.

Speaker 20 (01:15:37):
And we pay two lots of land drainage.

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
To dept.

Speaker 22 (01:15:43):
We have our own septic tank and we have a
ball for our water, and we're are going under the
Environment Canterbrise, and we have a test management charge that
we pay of about nearly eighty or eighty dollars. We
have a several defense charge which is minimal at sixteen dollars,
and we have a general charge of six hundred and

(01:16:05):
thirty five dollars, so we don't even know what that's for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
General. Yeah, that's cheeky.

Speaker 22 (01:16:10):
But we have a passenger transport charge and it's got
rural and it's for twenty three dollars. I don't even
know I've ever been picked up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Yes, so what does it say?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
So I'm just looking through why we e can rates
as well?

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I need I need to go through my rates bill
to get annoyed as well. It's quite cathartic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
But then, to be fair, Sharon, that is because and
I don't know why they do this, but e Can
are the ones that sorts out the buses across christ
So if you're in christ Chat city, the other ones,
oh yeah, sorry you go.

Speaker 22 (01:16:41):
We don't need we don't have busses.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
That is a problem. That's not fair and new Sharon,
is it? That is a mess a problem? Hey, Matt.
We put our bins out at night to make sure
we don't miss the seven am collection, but then often
add to the bin in the morning if we have time.
I'd be pretty pissed off. It was full of your crap. Yes,
you look like I'll just say us garbage ghosts, the
trash trolls, the bin ninjas out on the streets breading

(01:17:06):
our rubbish across across our neighbor's bins by night. You
know it's a thrill. I can tell you know, it
is an absolute thrill, So I tell you got to
try it. Yeah, got the bin ferries, put a little
bit of rosh in there, then skip down the road,
put a little rosh in there. It's a great time. Fantastic.

(01:17:27):
That was a really great chat.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Thank you very much to everyone who called antext until
the other bin furies out there, Good luck and met.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
We'll see you on the streets. Trash trolls. We prefer
to trash trolls.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Coming up after three, I really can to have a
chat with you about preparing for retirement. Great story in
the Herald saying what you should be preparing for and doing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
We'll get to that next.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Your new home for instal and entertaining talk. It's Matty
and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Very very good afternoon, Chew. It is seven past three,
happy hour on a Friday. Great of your company, as always,
is going to be a great chat.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
So there's a story in the Herald and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Titled seven Rules for a healthy and happy retirement from
the professors who studies, and a lot of these professors
are very renowned from places like Oxford and from Harvard
as well. But essentially it boils down to if you
are looking ahead to retirement in your thirties, forties, fifties,
and certainly in your sixties, you need to think long

(01:18:30):
and hard about that how you can have the best
retirement possible. That we are living for longer, our retirements
are longer, and it's not just a factor of money
any more. Money certainly helps, but it is a factor
of how are you going to make sure that you're
still happy and healthy and enjoying your life well into
your seventies, eighties and for a lot of people nineties

(01:18:52):
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
So Azarah Hell, we were just talking to her before.
She's gen Z. Yep, she's our political reporter, she is,
and she was saying she hadn't even thought about retirement, right, Yeah,
so gen Z. Is anyone gen Z thinking about the
retirement And we're not talking about just saving for retirement,
but these things about thinking about your health now so
that you are in good shape when you retire. Yes,

(01:19:16):
so are people in there obviously gen X's are thinking
heavily about their retirement now. I mean, the boomers are
in their retirement now, so they're thinking about it. Yep. Millennials, millennials,
you're a millennial or you're a millennial. Have you thought
anything about your retirement, how you want it to be,
what you want, what you want from it? Are you
saving for it? Are you're on top of that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Tyler, certainly saving for it. Whether I'm on top of
it is a different scenario. But and this is the
point of the story. I look at it when I
eventually get to retirement age, and I've got all these
wonderful ideas of maybe sitting on beaches, having pinnacladas, and
also doing great walks of the world and all these
wonderful things. But you forget that if I buy chance

(01:19:56):
retire by the age of seventy, I may have thirty
years of life left.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
So once I've done, when do you think you're going
to retire seventy and you reckon you're gonna get another
thirty seems likely?

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Maybe maybe, I mean you might have to do a
bit more. I mean, you know, I'm going to have
to do some more walking. And I love you like
a brother, but I wouldn't say you're a picture of
good health.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Yeah, as I was doing those calculations, it will be,
it will be a miracle. If I make it to
one hundred, let's say I'll make it to eighty one,
maybe drop.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
That's down from thirty to six months.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
So in that case, if I've only gone six months
after seventy, then I'll be I'll be your home, my
home and host I've got pina coladas and great walks.
But yeah, the point was that a lot of people
get to retirement and they haven't thought about how they're
actually going to manage their time and make sure you
can actually enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
So really keen to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty what is
important for you by the time that you do reach
that milestone?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Yeah, and how do you envision your your retirement? What
do you want from it? Do you want to be
sitting on the beach, sitting pinacoladas, pina clartas? Do you
want to be walking the Camaro trail? And you know,
what do you want to do with your retirement? Because
you have to start thinking about that that absolutely now,
because you might live for thirty years, but in say
a way that you can't do all those things that

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you that you dreamed you would do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Yeah. Funnily enough. As we were hanging around as a
family last night after my beautiful, beautifuln his funeral. But uncle,
he is sixty one, and he was saying, he's talking
about traveling and he's getting ready for retirement. But he
meted it out and his said, so what I want
to do. You've got the long travel situations, you've got
the kind of smaller travel situations, and then you've got

(01:21:34):
the you walk down to your letter box, and so
you've got to do the longer ones right at the
start of your retirement. Then you get shorter and shorter
and shorter until you can't walk anymore. That was his
kind of analogy for it, and I thought, yeah, it
kind of makes sense. So he wants to start kicking
us on the travel thing as soon as he's done
with work, So going over to Europe doing the what
do they call it, the Kamara Trail in Spain, all
those beautiful things, and then when he hit seventy, maybe

(01:21:57):
a few joints to Australia and Thailand, and then when
he's eighty, you know, just some domestic travel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Yeah, I mean, and there's this other thing called the
retirement donut. If you to that. No, So when you're
in your fifties, you might have the energy to do
a lot of the things that you want to do.
Maybe you want to do a spectacular climb or something,
or you want to do something really really sort of
physical that you might not be able to do in
your eighties yep or late seventies. So you take a

(01:22:24):
retirement donut. So you retire for five years in your
fifties and then get back into work afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Oh, I love that idea. Oh eight, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call love to
hear your thoughts. If you're in your thirties, forties, fifties,
are you planning for your entire retirement? How do you
envision it and what do you think will be important
when you get to that milestone? Right now, though it
is twelve past three, Every Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
On Matt and Tyler afternoons on Newstalk z'd Be, we
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Speaker 23 (01:22:56):
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(01:24:55):
just the best people on the planet. It may be
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New Zealander of the Week. But they don't make the rules.

Speaker 24 (01:25:09):
We do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
So shame on the Wines after all these years, we
don't know how bloody lucky we are made. Let's get
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New Zealander of the Week, Take it away, Howie. It's

(01:25:33):
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in the New Zealand of the Week. Massive momentous day.
It's going to turn the economy around. No before malais
across the country.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Tyler News Talk, sa'd be very good afternoons. You it
is seventeen past three. If you're in your thirties, forties,
fifty sixties, how much have you been thinking about your
retirement planning it out because we are living longer, really
keen to have a chat with you at one hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yes, after the study that we've been reading out before.
But it's not just the financial organization for your retirement,
it's it's health as well and how you set yourself
up for life. You know there is this, there's this
the triangle of life. Have you heard of the triangle
of life?

Speaker 16 (01:26:25):
Time?

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I have not time, money, health triangle? Right, okay, yep.
So when you're young you have time, yes, but not
much money yep. But you do have health yep. So
when you're young, you're generally healthy, you've got some money,
you don't have any money, but and you've maybe got
some time.

Speaker 7 (01:26:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Yes, As you're a middle age you you might have
a bit more money and health, but you've got no
time because you're working all the time. Right in old age,
you may have money and time, but health could be
a problem. So that's where you've got to balance all
those things. Right, So you know, you could wait your
whole life to do this amazing thing when you retire,
and you have this vision your whole life when I retire,
this is what I'm going to do. But then you

(01:27:02):
get there and your health's gone. So and that's a bummer.
It is around. So you're you know, you working your
ass off in your thirties and forties, in fifties and
creidal amounts of cortisols going through your system, stress and
anxiety and alcohol and all those kind of things that
are going through your system. Well, you wait for that
opportunity to retire so you can finally enjoy life. But

(01:27:23):
when you get there, you've blown out the system. Well
you got there. Happens a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
I do like your idea of this retirement donut that
you mentioned though, so effectively, you take a little bit
of time off in your fifties hopefully while you've got
all of those things. You've got a bit of time,
the kids have flying the coop, you've got some money hopefully,
and your health is still pretty good. So you take us,
well we retirement donut five years go and do the
Camino Trail.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
I'm sorry I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Said it was the a Camaro Trail. A lot of
people angry at me for saying that, and then you
come back to work.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yeah Camano Trail, not Camaro Trail. You absolute muppets. You
really are muppets. That's from Mark Can I just got
double muppeted in that tea? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Yeah, can I just say that was me that said Camaro?
So yeah, thank you very much. I'm certainly a muppet.
Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
So it'll be interesting to hear from people that have retired.
What if they could go back in time they knew
was important? If you know what I mean, the things
you wish you would know in your thirties, forties and
fifties about retirement that you know now that you're retired.
I mean, it's no good for you. You can't go
back and change it, but you might be able to
offer some advice for people that are millennials like Tyler over.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
Here exactly can to hear from you. I had one
hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Peter, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 25 (01:28:33):
Good a, yeah, very good. Yeah, I'm I'm a seventy
year old and I'm sort of part time retired and
I'm pretty happy. And what I do is I work
week on, week off, and over the year that money
I say from that. My wife does the same. We
put the week on money together makes about thirty forty
grand and we blow up for two months on an

(01:28:54):
overseas trip every year.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Oh nice, So last.

Speaker 25 (01:28:57):
Way are we're not taking any of our You know,
we've got a house, but we haven't got loads of savings.
But it gives us heaps to travel. So last year
we did a month in Canada in a month and
a jeep in Africa. I'm sleeping on the rod and
we're just about to take off again for another couple
of months. But then we were. We got week off
through the years.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
He oh, good on you did you get? You didn't get?
I saw this video the other day of an elephant
coming along and basically ripping the tent off the top
of one of those tracks.

Speaker 25 (01:29:24):
We we were sleeping on the top, and a couple
of nights we actually got chased to bed by some
hyaenas by a campfire, but we shut up to bed
and I couldn't even have a beer because I didn't
want to have a pee during the night.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Oh that is it? Yeah, that is a high risk pee,
isn't it when you're out the wildlife?

Speaker 25 (01:29:42):
Oh no, I brought my wife a she wee as well,
so she didn't have to get down either.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
I definitely be wing off the top of the vehicle
rather than getting down.

Speaker 25 (01:29:50):
You don't even want to open your door.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Actually, yeah right, how exciting? Did you? Did you plan
for your retirement? Did you think about that when you were,
you know, in your thirties and forties or fifties, or
have you just sort of lucked into it?

Speaker 13 (01:30:02):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:30:03):
I sort of tried to play the mortgage off and
like most people, so the time I got to mid
sixties and knocked off work and got a part time
job that allowed me to do week on, week off
and put that money and take off every year. And
it's just worked. Lucked into it. I guess it's worked
really well.

Speaker 7 (01:30:18):
Yeah, well we keep fitting.

Speaker 25 (01:30:20):
Someone keeps them blowing us. We'll keep doing a couple
of months every year.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
That's that's so good. But Peter, you and your wife
sound like you're very healthy people. Did you did you
you know, were you healthy when you were in your thirties,
forties and fifties or was it just good jeans?

Speaker 25 (01:30:34):
Well I managed to I've got good jeans, but I
knocked off smoking in mid thirties, so that was good that.
I haven't quite knocked off the beers and the wines yet.
But you've got to have one good stuff that but
I do take it at a lower effort now, so
I'm using a bit oft tacked in the core of me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Was there any fair, Peter, when you hit retirement and
clearly you've got a good balance there now, But was
there any fear that yet you may get bored if
you stopped working completely and figuring out, you know, how
you're going to occupy your time day to day.

Speaker 25 (01:31:06):
Yeah, well it would be. I mean I'm really social person.
So that's why I like to work for one week
every every fortnights to meet all the young fellows and
still chat and what have you. I've still got plenty
to do if I stayed home that second week. But
you know that I think the social aspects more important
as well.

Speaker 10 (01:31:24):
Well.

Speaker 25 (01:31:24):
That's what I really enjoyed boring into people to death.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Yeah, I mean, that's thing that people need to think
about because you often, you know, I talk to people
and they go, I'm going to move to the to
the country. I'm going to find like a lifestyle block,
which often turns into a death style block, but out
in the middle of nowhere. And then you think, well, actually,
as you get older and you've got the time, you
actually want to spend that time with other people a
little bit. You know, it's important to Yeah, you might

(01:31:50):
be in the most beautiful spot in the world, but
if your family can't easily get to you, and you
can't just wander a down and have a drink with
friends or whatever, it's it's not necessarily maybe a beautiful retirement,
but might be a bit of a lonely retirement.

Speaker 25 (01:32:03):
Well, those retirement blocks are tough because I did that
when I was about thirty five a life I brought
a farm as well as working, yeah, and brought the
kids up that way. It was put a hard work
because you're working, plus you're working the farm. And so
then mid sixties we moved back to semi city. Not
right into it, but you know, but yeah, those retirement

(01:32:24):
blocks can. Yeah, they're hard work. You need to be
younger to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
I think you've got to ask the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth,
and tenth question about things not just go Wouldn't that
be awesome to just have a bit of land and
just be out in the spot and not realize that
now that you're giving up holidays for work? Basically that's
what you're doing. You know, a holiday comes up and goes, yeah,
I'll be working on the death style block. Won'tay for this?

Speaker 25 (01:32:48):
Yeah, it is awesome being in the country though, But
as I said, you need to be a spot younger
to do that, not when you're when you're seventy and eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Well you sta, let you crack the code, Peter, So
good on you, Bud, Hey, you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
All right, you're a good man. Oh eight, one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call if
you want to send a text? Nine two nine two.
Are you thinking about your time and early? If you're
in your forty fifties or sixties, and if you've hit retirement,
what is some advice you could give people who are
about to get into.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
It when you have no money? Retirement sucks. We never had, kisaver.
I've got back to work at seventy five to top
up the pension. Yeah, I mean no, money makes everything hard,
certainly does.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Twenty five past three.

Speaker 7 (01:33:30):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
The afternoon we're talking about how do you prepare for
your retirement?

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
I've got to say quickly, Tyler, I just want to
say that the New Zealand being voted New Zealand of
the Week was very popular choice. You think so, yeah,
you'd assume so that, but you know what a great
place it is, and just one of them. If anyone
deserves to get New Zealander of the Week, it's New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Nicely said, yeah, it's a well deserved winner. But some
of those techs heart heart heart love love love. Yeehah.
I'm so glad New Zealand one New Zealander of the Week.
That's from Lauras Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
All right, so welcome to show. Paul. You're sixty eight.

Speaker 15 (01:34:10):
I am sixty eight. Welcome Mattham Tala. How are you both?

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Very good? Very good? Big distance You've called, Paul, so
you're still working?

Speaker 15 (01:34:18):
I'm sixty eight. Yeah, I worked part time up in
manga fire worked for one of the councils up here
as an economic development lead. So I've just used on
my lifetime experience really to work in that in that role,
which is working really well. But yeah, I used to
run a big business in the UK years ago and
I sold it and made my fortune and then came

(01:34:40):
to New Zealand and the global financial crisis and the
child's illness kind of skewed my my retirement plans, which
really threw everything into complete chaos. So you never know
what's coming, yeah it, Paul, Yes, no matter how much
you plan you know things, there's a few curve balls
that you're in life, and that's just the way life is,

(01:35:02):
you know, and you've got to be able to be
resilient to deal with that, and I've certainly done that.
I developed myself quite a nice roll up in Mangi
Fi now which I'm really enjoying. And I have got
I am sixty eight, I have got the motor home.
I do travel around in that or I live in Millwater,
so I traveled back down there after I work up

(01:35:24):
in Manga Phi, so I traveled back down to Millwater
at the weekends and spend time with my wife. So
I've got five children. Nice, yeah, so you know they've
all grown up all you know, empty nesters now. So
it's just just the way life goes. It's just you've
just got to be resilient to whatever life throws at you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Is that is that you know your kids? Imagine if
you live on Mani Fi, that's a lot of Now
there's an incentive for kids to visit a lot, right.

Speaker 15 (01:35:52):
Oh yeah, I don't live in Magnifi. I'm live in Millwaters,
but I work in Manga Five work in Magnifi. I
work for Hypriate District Council, So I work in Manga
Fi and I work in Dargan Mill so I travel
between the two of them. But I've got a fantastic
job in a fantastic region which is growing exponentially. And
you know a lot of Auclanders come up to live

(01:36:12):
in Manga Fi and that the place is creaking at
the extremes with people trying to live here. You know,
it's a fantastic place to be and I love it
up here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
But you can just fand down the motorway so easily, now,
can't you.

Speaker 15 (01:36:25):
Yeah, it's made the difference, so of course now we've
got the new motorway going through right the way up
to Tihanna. You know, it's going to bring this whole
That corridor of motorway will bring a whole lot of
growth up to this region and make the make Orkland
a little bit more accessible. But I've got to say
that working because I've worked in Orchard for twenty years,

(01:36:46):
traveling down to Auckland from a Rewa was a nightmare,
you know, two to four hours a day travel. Now
I travel up to Manga Fi and I'm the only
car on the road. There's no vehicles at all. So
suits my retirement to travel up this way.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Yeah. Hey, I've got a question for you, and you
don't have to answer. This is a personal question.

Speaker 7 (01:37:06):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Are you in this with the mother of your five
children still?

Speaker 24 (01:37:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:37:11):
I am, absolutely, I am yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:37:13):
We we left the UK twenty years ago and so
I brought three children with me and left the two
children that had their own lives back in the UK
and they're still there now. They've got businesses and we've
got grandchildren all over the world. Now, So what what
New Zealand has done to me is really opened up
the world. So my family have traveled like they've never

(01:37:33):
traveled before. My my my oldest son is married to
an Indian. My second son is married to a Welsh girl.
My third son is married to with Sri Lankan. My
fourth child as a girl, she's living with a Vietnamese guy.
My youngest daughter that she lived with the South African.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
So you've got.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (01:38:02):
New Zealand is great for that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
So my question is about that because I think one
thing you were talking before about how you and you
don't know what's going to happen and you can plan
and all that kind of stuff. So a lot of people,
you know, you're in a relationship, you have children, and
you've got a plan for your retirement, and then that
relationship blows up and then and you see this happens
to it to a lot of people. I think people

(01:38:24):
don't realize how much a divorce really upsets people's plans
for going forward.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:38:32):
I can't of imagine dealing with that, to be honest, man,
that's that would be terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
You might financially it might be better just to stick
it out, And a.

Speaker 15 (01:38:41):
Lot of people I just just suck it up and
deal with it because the alternative is not worth thinking about.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Well, especially you see all these people that they that
their marriage breaks up and they get with someone else,
and then that one is just as bad as the
previous one, because you know, wherever you go, there you are.
And then you get into the next one. You've got
all these financial repercussions, and you realize that the problem
wasn't it was you.

Speaker 15 (01:39:04):
I'm going to say, what happened to me at the
GFC was really this. I used to iced to be
a bank manager for national bank and A and ZED
took over a national bank at the time, and the
national bank I had my mortgage with, and they made
me redundant. In the GFC, the same bank took my
house off me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Wow, the bank you were working for, the.

Speaker 15 (01:39:25):
Bank I was working for when I was made redundant,
they took them, they took they took my house off me,
which was you know, that's that's a bit of pilter
swallow and yeah, quite hard to come back to terms with.
And so I've been renting ever since.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Right, But you seem like a cheerful chet Paul seemed
like you positive.

Speaker 15 (01:39:43):
No, I am now, I'm very I'm very optimistic I've
got I'm very optimistic and always have been, and my
children are really just incredible people who were who were
so optimistic and so entrepreneurial as well. Actually, we've all
got that entrepreneurial gene inside us and it's it's it

(01:40:03):
just puts a smile on your face all the time.
So I mean, although I'm sixty eights, I don't feel
sixty eight. I feel like it's a new forty for me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Yeah yeah, well you sound like it, mate, So thank
you so much for your call and good luck with everything.

Speaker 15 (01:40:17):
Yeah, thanks very much, Matt Taile love a good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Yeah you too, mate. What a great New Zealander he is.
Love that attitude. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. We've got headlines hot on
our tales, but really keen to hear how you plan
for your retirements.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
A lot of people texting in they're running death style blocks.
They thought they were going to be lifestyle blocks, but
then his Josh Wellington says, I've got eleven acres of
a to do list exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
It's twenty six to four.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
News talks.

Speaker 13 (01:40:45):
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with the blue bubble. New Zealand's attempts at improving health
and wellbeing over the last twenty five years have been
found to be patchy at best. The Public Health Advisory
Committee has released its report and is recommending wealth tax
and a cross party focus on well being. New Zealand
authorities have confirmed there is no tsunami risk here after

(01:41:08):
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outside a home in Hamilton's Malville yesterday. Blissa still searching
for the seven people they believe were involved. A person

(01:41:30):
seriously injured following a medical incident at the Selwyn Aquatic
Center in Canterbury. Emergency services were called to the pool
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(01:41:51):
full story at Enzed Herald Premium. Now back to Matt
and Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Thank you very much, Wendy, and we're talking about how
do you prepare for your retirement thirties, forties, fifties and sixties,
and if you're currently retired retired rather, what's your advice
for people who were steering that down?

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
And we're not just talking out financially, we're talking about
mentally and health wise. You know, we were talking before
about the retirement donut, where you take some time off
when you were younger. Yes, and as everyone points out,
very few people could do that, like it's an idea,
but you know who lets you? You know, you might
take your donut and that might be it. They might

(01:42:26):
not take you back. Yeah, very true. You have to
be a very particularly good position in life to be
able to take, you know, a couple of years off
in your fifties and then get back into it.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Yeah, got to clarify that. Oh one hundred and eighty
teen eighties and number to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Call, Sharon, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 20 (01:42:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
You're retired early?

Speaker 20 (01:42:45):
Well, if you class sixty five was the you know
line where people do usually retire. I guess you could
say I did I retired at sixty three after a career,
you know, since working since I was seventeen. There's only
a bit of time off to have our son. But yeah,
it was quite a mind shift to actually do that.

(01:43:07):
You know, we're completely and I think people perhaps, you know,
think they might be just be able to, like you say,
be on the beach and do nothing. You can't do that.
It'll drive your BARMI So you really got to actually
find something to do with yourself. You've got to perhaps volunteer,
have a good group of friends that you get together with,

(01:43:28):
find something sporty to do if you like that sort
of thing, all sorts of things that it's good to
be with people, not all of the time, but still
be engaged with people. I think otherwise. You know, my
husband's not retired. He's only just not like long ago,
gone down to four days a week and he's sixty eight.
And I always said to him that, you know, he
was making mumbles about being retired, and always said to him,

(01:43:51):
when you're going to have to find a golf club
because I might have married you for love and I
didn't marry you for lunch.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
It's a good line.

Speaker 20 (01:44:01):
So you know, you just have to find something to
do it. We live on a lifestyle block, so yeah,
we've got three acres of a list of things to do.
And my husband always says that keeps them young.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Yeah, right, So when did you move on to the
three acres Sharon?

Speaker 20 (01:44:16):
Oh, we've looked to it. We've always lived on a
life style block since nineteen eighty six, not this particular one,
but this one. We've lived here for twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Does that end into your holiday time? Because we're hearing
a lot of people texting and saying they moved onto
the lifestyle block and it became a death style block
because they were having to work all week and then
in the weekends and on holidays work on their lifestyle block.
I guess, I guess three acres, like you've got a
little bit more manageable than some of these people that
are eleven twelve, fifteen acres.

Speaker 20 (01:44:44):
Yeah, we used to have nearly eleven acres in Albany,
and it is two big, three eight acres is quite manageable.
But we have a son and he has to come
to look after things as we go away. So yeah,
we're very fortunate like that, but you do find need
to find something to do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Do you did your retirement did when you were younger?
Did you picture your retirement and is your retirement the
way you pictured it? Sharon?

Speaker 11 (01:45:07):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:45:07):
Well, I mean I never really thought about it, which
is an odd thing to say on but I never
really did because you know, loom me up in your
sixties comes up pretty fast. And I actually didn't think
about it because I was busy working in other things
that we were talking, and no, to be honest, I
never actually thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Yeah. Well, good on your Sharon. Sounds like you're doing
very well. Johnny here though this is his plan. Yeah, hi, guys,
being a hopeless drunkard. My retirement plan consists of buying
a lot of ticket each week.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Good luck with that, Johnny. Oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call if you want
to send the text. We've got plenty coming through. Nine
to nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
It's a life sentence block, says Peter nicely said. It
is eighteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

Speaker 7 (01:45:56):
Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Said, be afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
It is a quarter to four.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
We're talking about preparing for your retirement. Are you thinking
about it in your thirties, forties, fifties? And for those
who have retired, what is your advice to those people
steering down retirement to the next decade or so? Oh
one hundred and eighteen eighty to number.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
To call Steve, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
Goodday, guys.

Speaker 24 (01:46:18):
How are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Very good? Thank you? Thanks for calling. You've got some tips?

Speaker 24 (01:46:23):
Yeah, just coming through clear because the phone started breaking
up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
You were beautifully clear, Steve. Beautiful. It's like you're sitting
inside my head. Lovely.

Speaker 25 (01:46:32):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (01:46:33):
I'm seventy five, Okay, I still work part time. I
started starting for retirement. I don't know thirty forty years
ago with AMP I started, didn't you know? I didn't
put much away. But I'll tell you what now we've
had three big holiday fifteen, eighteen and twenty three wurs
of England and Europe.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
Ah, but I still you carry on, Steve. You just
broke up a bit to bet carry on.

Speaker 24 (01:47:03):
I have free halt at our house. In twenty and fourteen,
I went into the National Bank it was then, and
said I wanted to write out the check for every
sind Iowa, and I don't want to hear from you again.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Is that exactly what you said? Yep, I don't want
to hear from you again.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
I want to tell you our relationship at this point is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Done on your national being horse and ride up at
the sunset. I don't care, and.

Speaker 24 (01:47:26):
I'll tell you what National Bank has been was a
really good bank. And I've ended up with it about
the A and Z. What a bloody outfit that is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
In a good way or a bad way?

Speaker 24 (01:47:37):
No it's not they're not good. But anyway, I did
start saving. But when you're self employed, the more you save,
the more they tax you, so you get wiped out
every year anyway. But I did keep this a MP saving.
It's still going. I still pay into it, but it's
it's really part of it. My wife had a good
saving scheme for when she worked. So we've flown a

(01:48:00):
lot of our cast on three big trips overseas and
I don't regret a.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Scent of love it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Where'd you go?

Speaker 24 (01:48:07):
Well? We minis and we drove Minis all over England.
The first time in fifteen we're away for two months
and then in eighteen we' have for three months and
then in twenty three we were away for four months
and we did in twenty three we did a cruise
down there and down the river and out of Germany

(01:48:27):
and down from I put a piece to down into
the Netherlands.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (01:48:36):
So that was that was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Yeah, what an experience.

Speaker 24 (01:48:40):
I still got to work with the pension really only helped.
It doesn't contribute completely.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
But what kind of work are you doing, Steve?

Speaker 24 (01:48:49):
A contractor? I got a bob Cat and trucks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Oh yeah nice? Or how good? Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:48:55):
Nineteen seventy eight, still going strong?

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Yep, yeah, yeah, good one, Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
What a good man. Thank you very much, Steve, really
appreciate it. Sounds like you've got a cracked I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Was bummed when the National Bank turned into Ends. I
mean I've been very happy with that and Z ever since.
But I love the horse. Yeah, and I love the
Viveldi's four seasons, the house, the horse riding around. Yeah,
it was it was great.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
Bring back those ads.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
Yeah. So there's another bank that uses the horse now.
I think it might have been the people that owned
the National Bank overseas, but the Horse Bank the horse now,
the Horse Horse Logo Bank.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
I'll look it up those az ads just just not
as good, not as good.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
Troy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
How are you mates?

Speaker 12 (01:49:42):
Hey, good guys, how are you very good? Retirement? What
a wassh? What a wish?

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:49:46):
Oh my gosh, there's something I was hoping for when
I was in my forties. Unfortunately my wife got cancer.
So in my fifties I sort of been, oh, how
do you deal with this? But then then life changes
and twenty twenty one two I met my beautiful new
wife and now I've got a three year old and
the only reason I'm puffing and picking up boxes because

(01:50:07):
guess what, I think I'll be working time about eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
So how old are you now, Troy? If you don't
mind me asking.

Speaker 12 (01:50:14):
I should say thirty six, but I'm fifty six. But
you know I think, yeah, my wife's thirty four. And
I'll tell you what, I have no qualms in working
well into my seventies. The reality is you think about
what you have to do as well to be able
to bring your kids up and do the right thing.
We just have to keep working sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
I mean it's not bad though, yeah, yeah, well just
saying you know that for what happened with you, And
so sorry to hear that, Troy. But now you've got
a beautiful new wife and a three year old daughter.
That is a hell of a lot of motivation to
keep going.

Speaker 12 (01:50:45):
Yeah, I mane it's the motivation is my wife, the
family doing everything we can as well. I mean, yeah,
unfortunately we're both so we're trying to stand for local
government and trying to give back to the community and
do what isn't but that's life what sometimes you want
to try and help out everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Yeah, well, you sound like you've got a fantastic attitude.
So so where do you see yourself when you're you know,
in twenty years from now.

Speaker 12 (01:51:09):
I see myself in local government, but I also see
myself having to be honest, having my kid's older, look
after them and do whatever you can. I'm one of
these few people that actually love living in Auckland.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (01:51:21):
It's a great area. It's good for what we want
and we're trying to do the best. I mean, I know, Tyler,
I think you're in Mount Wellington. I am as well, mate.
I mean it's a good area. We try and do
the best for kicking for our area. That's what it's about.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
It's interesting, you know, a caller before was saying about
how you can plan, but you don't know what's going
to happen. And in your case, you know, you had
your plans, you had your life, and then what happened
with your wife, which is obviously a huge, huge tragedy,
but you know you couldn't have planned for that. You
just have to sort of keep going. And then it
sounds like you're in a good space now.

Speaker 4 (01:51:55):
Guys.

Speaker 12 (01:51:55):
I'll be honest. When I met my current wife, I
had no desire to have kids, and then all of
a sudden we came one. And I'll tell you what,
I don't care how old you are. It's a blessing
and you take it and that's I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Sorry, brogant.

Speaker 12 (01:52:05):
So no matter what you plan for, just live life
now and just see what happens as well. That's all
you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
I'll get on your Troy, thanks for your call and
all the best out there. Well, I'll tell you what
you see. Barry's sop with his kids and they make
him very happy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Absolutely, the energy that man's got now at the age
of Oh, I shouldn't say what his age is, but
I don't even know what age. He'll keep going from
him fifty years Barry.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
He's not a millennial, I know that much. He's certainly not.
But he's got a couple of very very cute kids,
very very cute. Hey. So the bank I was talking
about was Lloyd's Bank, that's right. So Lloyd's Bank and
National Bank had the green logo with the horse yep.
And I was very proud of being a national bank person.
I don't know why my dad took me into that
bank randomly andeda when I was thirteen, and we had

(01:52:48):
the National Bank for a long time. And there's Vivaldi's
full season, but that was also Lloyd's Bank. Yeah, you go.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
A majest of course makes a bank, absolutely right. It
is eight minutes to four, coming up after the break,
A really beautiful text from someone who's absolutely by the
sounds of that cracked retirement. We'll get to that next.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 7 (01:53:14):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
It be.

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News talks.

Speaker 23 (01:53:19):
It be.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
It is six two four. And I mentioned this text
before from someone who seems to have really cracked retirement,
and here it is. Get a guys, I'm seventy six
off to walk three hundred and sixty k's of the
Camino Trail with my thirty seven year old son after
a week driving around Ireland and a week in Rome
in Venice. Yeah, live on a lifestyle block with my
eighty five year old husband and we grow most vegis
and fruit. Have a daughter and son in law and

(01:53:41):
eight grandkids on the property next door, and son and
daughter in law with four kids on a property above ours.
Twenty one grandchildren, two great grandchildren. Heaps to do living
in the rural community. Walking groups, exercise groups, sports clubs,
craft groups, one held at the local pub, all sorts.
It is definitely the good life.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Crack the code there. So that brings us to the
end of metting Tyler Afternoons for another week. Thanks so
much for listening to the show. It was nice to
see this week that the show just keeps getting more
and more listeners. In the radio book, there have so
now Tyler and I look, we love your calls and
tex so much. We like to celebrate one each week.
On a Wednesday, we were talking about On the Wednesday,

(01:54:20):
we were talking about Trump as the whole world tends
to do and this. On that day, Paul came in
with his opinion. Look, we love a strong opinion, but
the way he delivered this was so precise it had
to win Caller of the Week.

Speaker 6 (01:54:35):
It's definitely media generated. I mean, Trump's taken less drugs
than JFK. He's less obnoxious than Lyndon Johnson, He's Cheetah
and his wife less than Clinton. He started less worse
than Bush. And I mean Obama drown so many people
in Afghanistan, it's not funny. Where's the perspective. He's like

(01:54:55):
an outlaw and we're all supposed to be against him,
but I think he's shaking up the system. And I
think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
That's a very precise call, Isn't that fantastic? The Mattain
til Afternoon's full show podcast about in about an hour,
So if you missed anything, listen to the Oh listen
at the gym at the beach, all while working on
your life sentence block. But right now, Tyler, why am
I playing the song, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
Great song into the danger zones? Because we're getting these
kick Us helicopters and the airbusses and just a few
technical speaks about these wicked helicopters. They go three hundred
and thirty k's an hour, arrange of nine hundred and
sixty three kilometers and can carry weapons, including the Mk
fifty four anti sub torpedoes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
They are bad us, Yeah, but we didn't buy any
thirty fives that they have in Maverick, do we did.
We have a great weekend, give a taste of Key
we go the Warriors, go to AB's and see on
Monday afternoon.

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