Full Show Podcast: 24 February 2025

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Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
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twenty sixth of February twenty twenty five. It's a Monday,
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Wait till the story from Mark. You evaluate the story
from Mark. But it sounds like there is some terrifying
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Speaker 2 (01:10):
Send me well happy Monday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Do you hope you had a great week Kenned and
are having a great afternoon if you're listening from good
A mets A Tyler, how are you fantastic? You had
a lovely weekend in Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I certainly did. I went down there. I was
speaking with Jamie Panell, the former Sas soldier. He's got
a fantastic book called Serviceman j The Untold Story of
an Sas Soldier. It's a very very good book. So
we had a fantastic chat down there in the Hamilton Gardens,
and great crowd came along and look, I said to
people there, because I hadn't really seen the Hamilton Gardens before,

(01:46):
but I said, I'm going to say on the radio,
I promise a lot of people how great the Hamilton
Gardens are.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
There.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
The Hamilton Gardens are so spectacularly great. And Sunday was
such a beautiful day, so many great people there. And
you know in New Zealand, we've got all these things
and everyone will be going, how come you don't know
about Hamilton Gardens. So I don't know why I didn't
know about Hamilton Gardens, but I've never been there before.
But we have so many great things like that, and
they need to be celebrated. People need to point them
out and go. That is crazily spectacular.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I haven't heard a bad word about the Hamilton Gardens.
I haven't been either, and I know that it's I'm
patriotic and I need to get down there. But world
class apparently, And Hamilton gets a bit of stick from
time to time, but the gardens. No one sees anything
bad about the gardens.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Right No. I mean some people are annoyed that they
have to pay to go there now, but fantastic and
the Hamilton and Art Festival were very good to me
and Jamie Panell. And yeah, as is saying to you before, Tyler,
when you're doing a stand up speech with someone that's
an insied essay, as soldier, you just have to accept
that your stories and nowhere near as good as there
is when you go to war. It's hard to compete

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with your interesting broadcasting stories don't quite don't quite compete
with being there. When will the appiada one has gold
has crossed.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Now just before we get to Garia cross, just before
we get to your farm stay. I've got to say,
you're looking like a very proud Danita Knight right now,
you've got your Tago Rugby juwsey on.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I've got the you know, the original what everyone wore
in the nineties in Duonedan when I was growing up
and your Highlanders kept you and Sharks fins up. Sharks
had big Dunedin coat of arms on there. So I'm
going fallen after that. Fantastic Highlanders win. But look at this,

(03:29):
Look at this text. Hi, dear Matt Heath. I hope
you rescind any future invitations to watch the Blues at
Edon Park. You are a fake Blues fan and we
don't want you there. Go back to Dunedin and freeze
your off because you're a disgrace. You've disgraced yourself. Call
yourself a Mountain local. Well, I am a mounted and local.
But I think you can never quite get over the

(03:50):
teams that you support from your hometown. It's burned in
your soul when you're a kid to support Tago Rugby.
It is for me, play for birth's rein supreme. Absolutely,
so I support the Blues and Nest they're playing the Highlanders.
I support Auckland and Nest they're playing a Targo. That's
the way it is.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
But thank you very much, for that, because always.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Thank you very much for the abuse, so we appreciate it.
We always love it. On nine two nine two, keep
it coming.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Right now to your farm stay because you're very excited
about the farms stay just south of Auckland, and you
were going to watch some Clarkson's farm.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Why you were down at this beautiful I'm very excited
about Clarkson's farm the TV shows, as I'm sure if
you've been listening to show, you know. So we had
a bit of time over the weekends. We thought we'd
go and stay at a farm because you know, I
grew up on a farm and so I kind of
missed that kind of thing sometimes. So I yeah, we
went down to Cleveland, hang out, hung out with some
buffalo Clevedon. What a place, beautiful, beautiful in this place

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we were staying was just nothing but farm land in
front of you. And so we went around on Pisted's
and Buffalo. They're pretty good. Just got me thinking about
the different things that people farm in New Zealand, so
I thought there might be some interesting stories there. O
e one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two.
Are you finding something interesting and what are the challenges
out there. You know, buffalo they're different different, they're different beasts. Yep,

(05:04):
you know, these ones like to be like hippopotamuses in
the water. You know, there's a lot of different There's
people farming emu out there. Yeah, there's people farming l paka.
What are you farming? Goat? Goat? Rabbits?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Even Yeah, I know there's some rabbit farmers out there.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's rabbit farmers. Well, I don't know. I'm just assuming. Well,
I've got a mate that's accidentally farming rabbits in the
Central Otago and actually he's committing a rabbit genocide at
the moment down there. Get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, doing God's work. But that is after three o'clock.
Farming of unusual animals in New Zealand. We want to
hear from you after two o'clock. Doomsday bunkers. It's long
been rumored that very wealthy international billionaires and multimillionaires are
building doomsday bunkers in New Zealand somewhere. It's now been
confirmed for the first time that at least one does exist.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, So would you want a bunker? How do they work?
Would you want to survive in a hole? Albeit a
luxury hole. So and what do you think you need
a bunker for? We want to talk about doomsday bunkers
and potential apocalypse Cherry subject on the mattin Tyler afternoons
on ZB.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Look forward to that discussion after two o'clock. But right now,
let's have a chat about will Should you provide more
for a financially worse off child in your will? It
is a question that was posed on a financial column
in the New Zealand Herald. Do we want to read
out the situation here as posed to the hero?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Sure you go for it, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
All right, it says dear Mary, who writes this particular
column in the Herald. We are regarding a story you
told about the boys getting the line's share of parental
financial help. That really got to me. We were financially
very secure. We put both son and daughter through private schools.
Our daughter flew high and finish UNI with first class honors.

(06:43):
Our son left high school by mutual agreement at just sixteen.
School was terrible time for him. In the last year
he was diagnosed with learning difficulties, but by then it
was too late. Long story short. He went to family overseas.
He broke bad friendships and habits. He worked his tail
off since then, and he and his wife and kids
are doing fairly well at the moment, but they are

(07:04):
far from wealthy. Unfortunately, we lost all of our financial security.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It happens.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Our big struggle is a little we will have to leave.
Will mean not a lot to our daughter and family,
but would be life changing for our son and his family.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Because that's a tough one, because okay, my gut failing
is no matter what happens, it's it's just has to
be divided up. So if you've got four kids, they
get twenty five percent, two they get fifty percent each.
I mean, you can't play favorites. So someone succeeded so
they don't get the money, and someone hasn't done as
well so they get more money, you know, or I
can kind of if someone's been actively evil towards you,

(07:41):
you might want to not give them the money. It's
a complex area, isn't it? Super complex? Is your last
statement on this planet to punish someone would be an
interesting one. I mean, you know, if you go to
if you maybe it's okay if you go and you say,
you know, you've done very well, so I'm going to
give all the money to your bum brother.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But if that situation, I mean, if I, you know,
whatever my parents leave to us kids, who knows, by
the end of their life there might not be that
much left, which is probably a better scenario because then
it's not that messy. But if they came to me
and said, hey, your little bro has had a financial
setback and he is going to get a substantial amount

(08:23):
more than you and our will.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Are you okay with that?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'd probably be yeah, fair enough, But you'd have to
get your child's approval before you did that, because then
it would be just a bit of a slap in
the face, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, Well, if he and my sisters are listening, if
it goes anything other than twenty five twenty five, twenty
five a c in court, No kidding, Jos, Fine, I'm kidding.
So it's an interesting topic. So waight te hundred eighty
ten eighty nine nine two. There's the text number. There's
a lot of gray area there. And just before it goes,
I wanted to mention around the Highlanders when my dad's

(08:58):
good mate Bruce passed away a couple of weeks ago
and He was a huge fan and him and dad
watched a lot of rugby together, so I just want
to say he would have absolutely loved that one that
the Highland has had this weekend.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
So good on you, Bruce, love that yet fantastic? Right, Oh,
one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call?
It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
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Speaker 3 (09:31):
Good afternoon seventeen past one. And this is a great question,
a curly question, but can and should you provide more
for a financially worse off child in your will?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah? Or cut out a errant and evil child from
your wealth? Emma, something similar has happened in your family recently,
I understand, yep.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
It has just in the past couple of months. So
there's three siblings, and it's a little more complicated because
two of them are step children of the parents concerned.
But as far as those kids were concerned, she was mums.
They treated her as she thought they tread you know,
all the fields were there and we have just been

(10:14):
told before the passing of this person, they wanted to
tell us ahead of time that they had unconsciously chose
to leave different quantities of money in their will because
the two stepchildren had done quite well for themselves and
the biological child hadn't. And we're talking substantially different, like

(10:40):
the entire houses left to one and just basically nothing
left to the other two. And I get the idea
of the money, but the hurt that it has caused
it's been something we never anticipated, like the feeling of
those two stepchildren, feeling like that person was never their

(11:02):
mother or never thought of them their children.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
So do you think there wasn't a part of it,
So the biological part of it, for one of a
better word, wasn't part of the decision making at all?
Do you think? Do you think.

Speaker 8 (11:17):
You'll never know? And that's the thing, And we've chosen
to as the family, talk about it and get it
out in the open, which has not been very comfortable.
But I hope that there could be some healing around
the thinking if we talked about it ahead of time,
because once someone died, they don't get to have those
conversations with you anymore, and it would just be nice

(11:40):
to have some peace around the thinking. But it makes
it even worse when there's step kids and biological kids,
because it's you know, it can't.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Help, but feel like it can't help, but feel like
somewhat of a statement, even if it wasn't meant to be. Yeah,
that's fairly clear. It's very comfortable, correctly, So how if
you don't mind sharing the details. How different in success
was it between the biological kid and the two step kids.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
So the two step kids have both got tertiary educations
that they've put themselves through financially, like the parents were
not wealthy and they put them individually through their own
tertiary education. One is a business owner and one's done
very well for himself doing something else. And the biological
child just didn't, you know, like very minimum wage, never

(12:32):
had enough to buy their own house. Head kids quite young,
so they've never been able to get a hidden life,
and obviously having house left to them would be hugely significant.
But it just sends a message to the other two
that the blood was more important was the fact that

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they were all family.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Emma, was there any messaging in the will to offset
this was there anything said.

Speaker 8 (12:59):
No, Like I said, they've made the will public before
they've died. They've told everybody about it just last month, right,
which I don't know whether the intention was to get
it all out in the open because they knew it
could potentially be a bit of an issue, but it
has made that conversation be had.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
And sorry, sorry mist understood. So they're still alive.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
So there's one parent still alive and they have told
everybody have to be very careful. Of course, understand they
have made it public before the death so that everybody
knew what they were getting, right.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
But so isn't there a chance that the bile like
child will will get more successful before this person passes.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
I don't think so, because it's much.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Of a motivation. So you're going to get a house.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
The other sticking point. The other sticking point was because
we talking a blended family. The two step sons. Their
biological dad died many years ago and had left a
will leaving some of their finances to the two biological sons,
and they shows in good faith to say no, you

(14:26):
just keep that to the step mum.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
We don't want to.

Speaker 8 (14:28):
Make you have to sell the house to give us
any money, you keep it so that you don't have
to worry about it.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Wow, do you.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (14:38):
And now that yeah, yeah, it's so.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Much simpler if you just divide.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
It such a minefield. But so at this stage I
take it the person who has made their will public
before the past, have they had conversations with all concerned?
Is that remedied it at all in terms of.

Speaker 8 (14:58):
That hurt only with us, but the other other siblings
know as well, but we've not all talked about it collectively.
We just had that conversation appearent enough because of the
hurt that it caused. It caused a massive, massive amount
of like lost sleep, careful nights. It was quite traumatizing

(15:20):
for the people consumed, and they you know, I thought
that the communicating those feelings would hopefully give some peace.
The thing is, there's no win. There's no win because
if they if they change it, it doesn't matter because
it's not about the money, it's about the feeling.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
But was was the was it? You know, there's some
people that spend more time with the parent. There's you know,
sometimes you have you're closer emotionally. Take the money out
of it. Was that was that a situation was all
the three nor No.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
In fact, the one of the sons who has done
well for himself probably did far more for this parent
than the biological one.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, the hurt would be I can I can see
that being a lot of hurt there. Yes, yes, so
so well, seeing what you've seen in this kind of situation.
And it's also complicated. Every situation is obviously incredibly different
and complex. But does it seem to you that that
just thirty three and a third thirty three thirty three

(16:26):
and a third is the way to go.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
Well, I think at the end of the day, people's
emotions and relationships are more important than the money, and
you can never get those memoried and feelings back once
some months passed. Yeah, you know, and yeah, I just
think it really at the end of the day. Yeah,
you just have to be honorable to the relationship.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah. Oh well, thank you so much for your call.
Emma really appreciate that. Yeah, very candid, Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (16:53):
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Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
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Speaker 3 (17:45):
Good afternoon, it is twenty seven past one and we're
discussing wills on the back of a financial column in
which a question was asked, should they provide more for
a financially worse off child in the will than the
other siblings? Some great teams coming through A nine two
ninety two.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Hi boys, great show. We have a bro who has
never been one of life's winners personal choices. The favorite
of Mum gave him a biggest year of the estate
because he had nothing and we all had our own homes.
We didn't like it, but respected mum's wishes. Five years on,
we are still good and Bros still has nothing as
all he got from we went through the Pokey's. Okay,

(18:25):
that's the thing, the sex says. I know farmers who
are still leaving their farm to their sons. All children
says the sect to need to receive equal share. If
one needs an extra bailout, then that amount owed to
the other siblings by the way of repaying of alone. Interesting, okay,
and your thoughts on this ahi.

Speaker 10 (18:44):
Well, Funnily enough, now you brought up the issue of
the farm. I see both sides of this issue in
different families. My husband only had one sibling who didn't
do that well at school, didn't do that well at life.
My husband and I did manage to do well. We

(19:04):
had a good marriage, good family, and we saw the
coming when his brother would be needy and we would
be the lucky ones. And it was actually me who
brought up the discussion first. Of all to my husband
that the way our lives were, we'd been very fortunate
and it would be a kinder thing if the parents

(19:27):
left the house and his name. He had always lived
with the parents, as it eventuated, never married, and they
were a bit shocked at first because they were the
old school. Of course you's down the middle, But that
worked extremely well, and we were always very pleased that
it fell into an actual position because it was willed

(19:48):
that way. He walked away with the house and we
continue with our good life and grateful for what we had.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, that's very that makes you a very good person.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
Anne, Well, I think it was just that I thought
of it first. My husband and we had our ups
and downs, but we had very similar value and we
both had the same feelings about money.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Yeah, and that I was able to work.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
Well.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Was that appreciated that move? Was it ever expressed to
you an appreciation for what you did?

Speaker 14 (20:22):
No?

Speaker 10 (20:22):
He never verbilized it. But as life turned out, there
was some cash remaining. The parents hadn't been well off,
but there was a small amount remaining, and that was
split between the two.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Of us, and.

Speaker 10 (20:37):
It was a long, sad story has went. We thought
he was un unemployment benefit there wasn't, and he ended
up a porporate with ninety dollars in the bank, reliant
on s Vincent depau living in another town that we
knew nothing about. So a lot of further propping up
went on in his lifetime. I wren't and large on
that side, but I do want to speak also briefly

(20:59):
to the farm thing. In our family, there was a
farm and several siblings, Dad and Mum to be the view,
and we all naturally agreed with it. Actually that the
oldest two had helped make the farm what it was,
and they got the farm and the rest of us

(21:20):
got a certain cash which was nothing like the money
of the farm, but we all agreed that it had
been fair that they had made the farm into the
entity that it was, and they deserved that part. So
in both cases there was enough family goodwill that these
situations all agreed it was a good plan.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's an interesting one with the farmer, isn't it, Because
you you know, someone might work the whole life on
the farm and they actually want to give it to
the person that continues working on the farm and legacy,
which may seem unfair to the other people.

Speaker 10 (21:57):
So sometimes they have to end up trying to buy
out from other members of the family.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, but if you had that discussion before, and as
you say, Anne, it might not solve all issues, but
you'd hope that if you've got a heads up that
you know your older brother is working the farm and
he wants to take it over, you are in finance
working up in Auckland, then you've kind of got an
indication that the farm's not going to go to you,
but there might be some sort of deal worked out there.

Speaker 10 (22:24):
Yes, I think in both cases the important thing is
no nice to their surprises after the death.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I mean if I was in that situation, If I
was in the situation I had, and I'd work my
whole life on a farm and there was one of
the children that had worked on the farm a lot
with me and was a farmer, and the other ones weren't,
I would say, Okay, who this farm goes to? Who
wants to work it? That's the way it's going. So
already I've gone against what I said before that it
should be divided equally, because if it's your whole life's

(22:57):
work and it's just going to disappear because it has
to be sold to share between kids that maybe be
living in London and other one's on the other side
of the world, someone else is doing something else and
one of them has stayed with you. Now that circumstance,
come on, it's got to go. It's got to go
to that guy, old gal.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, thank you very much, Jean. It is missy, isn't it.
I mean, even when I'm talking there and say there's
a deal that can be worked out, I mean your
parents have just died and you're working out deals about money.
Just feels about gross sometimes, but lovely you've got a
well Tyler, No, I know, all right, I know, I
got to get that sorted.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
All right, Okay, that's good to know. So we're with
all your money go.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
So you just leave, you just leave your partner hanging. Well,
maybe's my defecto partner.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So by lawa she it's the house.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, that's how it works, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah? All right, then I don't think you don't actually
have much, dear. No, you've got a punishing hybrid vehicle
in the house in christ.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, lovely house in christ that's the big as set.
It's not going to be a people your dog, you
know that's the big one. It's going to be a
huge amount of people turning out for the world reading.
We don't have to fight too much for my s.
It's at the stage.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Okay, what percentage of this is a question? What percentage
of people at New Zealanders do you think do not
have a will right now? Ooh, good question. I reckon
it'll be pretty high adult New Zealanders. Yeah, if you
think you.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Know nine two nine tools a text number, I'm gonna say,
surely it can't be higher than thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, well we'll find out, all right.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
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Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean, and we are talking
about wills on the back of a advice column that
asked the question, should you provide more for a financially
worse off child in your will than other well to
do children.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Or should it just be even stevens across the board.
You got two kids, they get fifty percent each. You
got three at thirty three and a third you get
it four, you've got twenty five. Like in my family, Hey, gents,
tricky one is blended family. Wells, I have two kids,
wife has one. We have been together twenty five years.
She wants to give her daughter her half fifty percent
and my kids get the rest, which is only twenty

(26:25):
five percent in each. It's a curly one. Great show,
cheers te. I mean, how do you bring that up?
How do you say I want to give my kid half.
I don't know who these people. It's Missy's messy.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Just I get blended family is you know, there adds
a level of complication there, but at all even in.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Many ways, you're well as the last statement you make
on the planet, so you want it to be. I imagine
one of that brings unity to the world, as opposed
to just endless hatred and arimoni. Quite often on farms
there's only one position for one child to return and work,
so the rest are kicked out. Yeah, okay, that's yeah.
Because I was saying before. If you've got a situation

(27:07):
on a farm and there's one of the kids has
worked on the farm and is a farmer, and the
other two have not been interested and they're off in
the city, and you want the farm to continue, then
then it makes sense that the farm would go to
that one. You know, as much as the other kids
are missing out on something, but they haven't shown interest
in the farm, and you want the legacy to continue.
Whatever difficult if all three of them have decided to
stay and work on the farm.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, yes, similar for a batch though right in the
family that of one sibling has done most of the
work on the batch. They are in the country, they're
mowing the lawns, they're doing on the maintenance. Do they
get to take the pat show for the other siblings?
Gets complicated?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Oh now, quickly, Beloh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
The headlines you ask the question how many adults within
New Zealand don't have a will?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Well, the answer to that question you said thirty percent,
which was a pathetic attempted to answer. You're off by
seventeen percent, Tyler. Almost half of New Zealand adults forty
seven percent don't have a will, according to research that
was commissioned by Safewill. So that I mean, it's kind
of high. It's a part a confusing statistic isn't it,
Because I mean you're an adult at twenty, aren't you?

(28:07):
So how many time any one year olds Bob and Heather?
Well they don't own anything at twenty Yeah, yeah, exactly.
You split up your your starlet? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
One hundred and eighty SID eighty is the number to call, Morris,
How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 16 (28:22):
Go on?

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Not too bad lads. This is an interesting topic with
all white children, which is the whole bunch of them.
But we come to conclusion because there's so many different
months they're getting nothing. I've had an education, they've all
been to private school, they've all been to university, come
out with no dick. They can't make it a life.
That's er issue, not mine.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
So where does some money go?

Speaker 14 (28:39):
Then?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Morris?

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Well, what we.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Did is we've got to trust and go to people
actually who need a head. And so we've decided that
we want to fund kids from low sous. You can
of them froment to private school. They have a chance
in life and our kids have had that and they
can't make the most of it from a privileged situation.
That's heerra shoe. But there's other kids that we can help.
And then we're doing it. We're already doing it now.
You know that's where we funow anything. We've got the kids.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
What if one of your kids ended up on the street.

Speaker 16 (29:07):
That's the problem.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
That'll be to private school. They've been the universities. I've
had every chance in life. If you want to go
and look yourself on mess and be a loser, that's
your shame. Guard and enjoy yourself. I've done my bit.
You're turned eighteen, you're on your own. Twenty one, you're
on your own. You've had everything you wanted, and you
know you've had good parents, You've got a good mother,
You've been told the right from wrong. You've had it all.

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Why should I have to keep funding a loser?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
And have you have you told your your kids this?

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Absolutely? But you know the oldest ones, the oldest two
girls ones are GPS in Melbourne, the other ones a
north pedic surgeon. The boys he's into I t you know,
they're all at the top end of They don't need ahead.
The young ones coming through know what's coming. And I
had a fourteen year old who attended a private school.
He was such an arrogant little twat and when he
found out there is no money. He's actually the soday,

(29:58):
I better get a job and get a living. It
actually changed his attitude waiting for the delban tonight.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
There's something quite decreasing about sitting around you haven't succeeded
in life and just waiting to inherit some money. That
is no, that is actually no way to live your life.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
No, yeah, no way, no way to live your life.
And so we've we've outlined, you know, from when they're
old enough to understand there is no future. My idea,
my advice to you is get a good education and
do to with life, because when you've finished university, if
you go there, you're on your own. You know, you're
twenty two to twenty three. And if you haven't grown
up by then, that's not my problem. I've done everything

(30:33):
to help you out.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
You can lead a horse to water, you.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Can't make a drink. But there's a whole lot of kids.
We've got eight kids that we put through private school
at the moment, we fully fund them and to various
school around the country from low soci economic and three
of them have just finished and they're heading off the university.
And these kids never had a hope and hell of
success in life. Most of their parents are crackings. Yeah,
now that's way more warning than leaving your kids a

(30:56):
whole bunch of money who go there and just and
they've been dickeeds.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
So have you have? You have this all been gone
through legals and it's ear tight this well, because we've
got a text here, it's all tied.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Up in a trust right so character trust owns everything.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
The kids can't challenge that.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
No, nothing, they can't do nothing, and it's all been
done many many years ago. They're not being a freshly
to trust is nothing. I don't own a cracker. And
you know, like my partner and I, we come to conclusion.
We've been through the times where we've struggled to kick
them where they are. We've done our best, you know
what I mean, work your ars off to keep them
in that lifestyle. And if they can't benefit from that,
and if they have to be a pack of oh

(31:33):
I got a mooth have it because I'm seking around
with losers. That's not my fault.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
But they have it O.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Honestly, they haven't. And you know, because they understand that
there is nothing there from day one there actually they
endeavor to take the most of it, you know. And
there's one young fellow who who just sort of said,
wait until dad dies and because I'm the favorite where
he thought he was, and when he found out the truth,
he went from a failure at school to success, you know,
And and a little bit of that motivation where there

(32:02):
is no goal near at the end of the rainbow,
it's your hard work gets you there. And that's what
we got there because of that. Yeah, if they can't
achieve what we've achieved because I got given nothing, I
got given not a cracker.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Good on your mind, very means for sharing that.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I mean, he's a tough, old dead Morris, But look,
I get the sentiment on the backside of it that
I think most people when they go through life and
not say, man, I just can't wait until one dad
carkeet because I need that money.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You'd be surprised how lame most people are, Tyler. There's
a lot of people. I tell you, who's the most
miserable people you've ever meet? Your trust fund kids? Oh yeah,
kids that just get money and no one cares less
about a house than a house that's just been given
to them by their parents. Exactly. If you haven't if
you haven't worked for something, then it doesn't mean very
much to you. Yeah, you know, and that sort of often,
you know, so tragic tale is old of time. The

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parents that work really, really hard, they create something incredible,
and then they want to give this life to their
kids that all the luxuries that they didn't have, and
then their kids just turn their life into a living
hell because they don't have any purpose.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Exactly, Ultimate irony. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. It is quarter to two.
We'll come back with more of your phone calls shortly.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, we're asking the question, should you give more more
in a will to a child that hasn't doing as
well as and less to the ones that have done
very well? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two
ninety two.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
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Speaker 7 (33:37):
Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
They'd be good afternoon, twelve to two. And we've asked
the question, should you provide more for a financially worse
off child in your will than other children who may
have done pretty well in life.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Some great teas coming through this. Texas says Hi, Tyler.
I don't know why this. Kevin's not talking to me,
He's just talking to you. So this is just for you,
this text, tylerkare we go listening? Kevin? I won't answer it. Hey, Tyler.
I was in a split family and when the last
parent passed, the parents own owning was fifty to fifty,
so their half went to their children in their family,
and we went to court and the outcome was whatever they

(34:11):
wanted in their half of the state. State. Okay, See
that's directed you. This is why I've made it quite
clear it's directed to you. Because I can't understand it.
I need a pen and paper.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
He did also spell Tyler with an A, which I'm
not even go, Kevin, but.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Like Tyler's an er. Yeah. Okay, So in the split family,
and when the last parent passed, the parents.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Owning was fifty to fifty, so half went to their
children and their family, right, Okay. Then it went to
court and then the outcome was whatever they wanted in
their half of the estate. Okay, Well we're going to
try and analyze that. But it sounded like anything that
goes to court. When it comes to family, it's not
a good time.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I grew up with one sibling. As young adults, we
found out my biological father's adopted my sibling as a baby,
but it was always assumed my dad was the father
of us both. My older sibling was put out. They
weren't told fair enough, but that's how it was in
those days, and our grandparents arranged the adoption. As a consequence,
my sibling changed their surname and protest. My father is

(35:13):
hurt and now says this year of the matrimonial state
will go only to me, and my mother's year will
go be fifty to fifty between my sibling and I.
This will all come out after the parents are deceased.
It will be an unwelcome surprise. See that's going to
be Yeah, jeez.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I got a question I want to throw in just
before we get to No. Let's go to John first
and then I'll ask the question.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
John, you want to talk about traveling without a will.

Speaker 15 (35:39):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
I had a son who, at the age of twenty two,
I said, put a pack on your back and go
and see the world, which he did, and he had
a wonderful time. Saw the world, married to a lovely
English girl, but sadly died from natural causes at the

(36:04):
age of thirty six, living with his living his English
wife in Spain. Now, under Spanish law, if you don't
have a will, everything goes to the oldest male relative,

(36:24):
which in that case was me, and his wife would
not have received his half share of the house they
owned in New Yorker. So it cost me about six
or seven thousand dollars through a law firm to say

(36:48):
to the authorities in Spain, I'm not making any claim
upon my son's estate. It all must go to his wife,
which July happened. But it costs a lot of money.
And these kids go off overseas and they don't have
a will, and who knows what's going to happen in

(37:09):
five years time. So I'm just putting that out there
for a good consideration. Y.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, I think, thank you for that. And that's an
absolute tragedy that that situation. So sorry to hear that.
When abouts was this John? Like what when?

Speaker 9 (37:24):
When was? He died in two thousand and nine?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Right, so that's and is that still the law in Spain?

Speaker 9 (37:32):
Well, I can't answer.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, we'll look that up.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, but it's a good word of warning there and yeah,
seven thousand dollars to say, hey, this isn't right. It
should go to my son's wife. That does feel a
bit on the nose, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
A will's international? So if I write a will and
then I go and live in I don't know China,
does is my will upheld for my assets over there?
Great Queen New Zealand will if you are does the
will have to be be interested to hear from an
expert on this? Or does the will have to be
created in the country that you're in through their law

(38:06):
Because I might have just my little well from my
little Donner's will traveling.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
The world with the second spain from my local.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Family lawyer, and then it doesn't mean anything around the world.
I'm not sure if you know.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I'd love to hear from your nine to nine to two.
It is seven to two back very shortly. Worth a
few more techs.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
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Speaker 2 (38:41):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
It is five to two, and a great discussion about
wills and what you should leave your children when you pass,
particularly the ones that haven't done so well in life financially.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
So we're going to get on to the topic of
doomsday bunkers and doomsday prepping in New Zealand because there's
been revealed that some big money has been spent underground
here from some big doomsday prepper companies, if that's the
way you describe it, and so we'll get to that
in the next hour. I talk about that one hundred
eighty ten eighty ten eight eight hundred eighty ten eighty

(39:14):
now look perfect. Yeah, it's but we've also got a
little couple more texts on the wells as well that
we need to get through. So yeah, yeah, bit of
a hangover on that topic as well.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Absolutely, there's been some great stories and we'd be remiss
not to get to them via text.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So that is coming up.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Great to have your company as always your listening to
Matt and Tyler. Hope you're having a great Monday afternoon.
We certainly are new Sport and weather on its way.

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Speaker 1 (40:03):
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Speaker 3 (40:08):
B Good afternoon, Do you welcome back into the show now?
Just before we move on to the next topic about
doomsday bunkers, we'd be remiss not to get through a
few of the stories about Wilves that was sent our way.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, we've got a whole lot of texts coming through.
Interesting topic. I'm on the process of sorting out our
will at the moment, and one of my four kers
has an intellectual disability, so he is economic disadvantage compared
with the other three. So we will have to set
up our trust to look after him and then look
after the others. I feel I need to be fair
with them all. However, a question for you boys to
raise what happens if you just have one child who

(40:44):
isn't as extreme in needs as mine, but maybe they
haven't been able to go to university or get a
head through having a learning disability, so they are disadvantage
in life. I mean, that's the big question, isn't it.
So how do you work out the Yeah, how do
you work out how much someone needs and how much
someone else needs, and whether they deserve it more or less.

(41:07):
You know, it's a big call to not go just
equal even Stevens on everything, isn't there?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, I mean thinking back and that is a very
unique situation there. But thinking back to one of the callers, Emma,
and it got a bit messy. Worth the step siblings
and the biological children. But if the person in question
said in the will, you're all getting an even share.
But to the biological child, I need you to look

(41:32):
after the step children. If they run into any financial
difficulty in life, you have to look after them.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Good luck the needs. We're talking about international wills. If
you make them will overseas, the will needs to be
created in the country where their assets are owned. If
there are children guardians involved, there will be tax implications,
so worth doing the country of beneficiaries. Also, Yeah, we're
talking about having a will overseas. Yeah. So we've got
so many on that topic, but we have to move on.

(41:59):
I'm afraid.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Okay, I'm just looking at one more. Okay, because this
caught my attention straight away, it's just come in.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Please read first. This is still very raw.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
And why I won't phone in. My sister died in Australia,
where she'd lived for over forty years. She had given
instructions to another sibling that that sibling was to acquire
an estate in the event of her death. When my
sister died, the sibling purported to have a poa and
a will. They did not, So when I advise the

(42:30):
existence of an old will, that proverbial hit the fan.
Despite discussing with her lawyer and the person relinquishing any
soul benefit from the will, it was decided not to
invoke it as there were no New Zealand assets involved.
This way, a small degree of family was retained, but
incredibly hurtful and messy all around.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, my god, just I mean, I guess if you can,
it's get a will together you're happy with and discuss
with everyone what you're going to do. Because I think
in the case of you know that the intellectually disabled
child who doesn't have the same chance of succeeding in life,
I think the other siblings would surely understand that money

(43:15):
needs to be put aside for that person's care in life.
You know, it's just a matter of making the world
and discussing it with everyone, so has no massive hurtful
surprises on your passing, because that's a horrible thing to
leave the world, isn't it. Definitely you've gone from this
world and you're leaving just acrimony and hatred that could
last a very long time.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeap spot on. Good discussion, Thank you very much. But
let's move on to another topic, and this one's going
to be a doozy doomsday bunkers.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, an underground doomsday bunker has been built in New
Zealand by US based company Safe that has been confirmed.
The entry level for such bunkers is one point seventy
five million. There's been a lot of speculation, as you know,
for a while that super rich Silicon Valley tech entrepreneurs
have ship survival bunkers out here, and there was rumors

(44:04):
that was one near Queenstown. But then Mayor of queen Down,
Jim Bolt, when these rumors were going around in twenty twenty, said,
to be honest, it makes me laugh because I'm unaware
of any bunkers. Looks like there are there is at
least one bunker, and these bunkers now are pretty crazy.
The fortified private properties can come with staggering array of

(44:25):
innovations and luxury features from biometrically activated shotgun walls, hydroponic pods,
decontamination chambers, fully equipped surgical theaters, gourmet dining kitchens, indoor
climbing walls and gyms, gun rangers, swimming pools, and even
if one style racing circuits. About twenty years ago, technology

(44:46):
reached a point where living in an underground shelter wasn't
only possible, it was comfortable. So this is the CEO
of the president of a US based company safe strategically
armored and fortified environments, Albert Coolby, and he says that
you can basically live in these bunkers for fifth the

(45:08):
years in a beautiful quality of life. He believes that
humans can stay completely secure with everything they need for
fifty years or more with out sacrifice in the quality
of life. So I guess the question is do you
think you need a bunker? Would you spend money on
a bunker if you could, if you had the money?
You think the world's going in such a way? And

(45:29):
what do you need a bunker from? In New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
It's a good question, I mean part of it. When
I read this story, I think, thank god I live
in New Zealand, that all these super wealthy individuals are
looking here for a wee bolt hole. And you know,
I thought it was kind of funny that the former
mayor of Queen's tangent bolt saying nothing gets past me.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I'd know about it. No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
These are billionaires, you know. Do you know how much
money a billion is. If they want to do something,
they'll find a way to do it secretly.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yes, So what are the threats? So you have a bunker,
say there is a you know, traditionally we think about
a doomsday bunker and people prepping for nuclear war, right,
so it's unlikely that anyone's going to bother wasting one
of their nukes on us zusan Yeah, but you could
have societal collapse, you could have you know, they talk
about the winter, the cold winters and the fallouts that

(46:18):
that happen. So are you are you hanging out in
your bunker underground while society falls? Do you? You know
they're talking about having a gun range. Do you are
you armed up? Are you and wanting to go under
ground and arm up and fight anyone that tries to
get into your bunker? And you know, where do you
put your bunker? Has it better to have a bunker
on your property or is it better to have a

(46:40):
bolt hole that you know, you head off into the
bush where no one knows where it is. Have you
thought about it?

Speaker 3 (46:44):
The idea of having a bunker somewhere doesn't have to
be in your beck garden.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I have thought a lot about a bunker. Yeah, I
don't currently have the wherewithals to buy a bunk to
make a bunker, you know, I've been looking at properties
that might need a septic tank, but it's not quite
the same thing. It's an underground kind of kind of thing.
But yeah, I don't know. Is it better to just
you know, he's saying that you can live a beautiful

(47:08):
life like a with fifty years in a bunker without
losing quality of life? I mean anyone as a lot
of people are texting through silos. Yeah, in the TV
show Silo. I mean that's a that's a life underground.
But is it a quality of life? I mean, would
it be it? Would it be better to just be
up there fighting it out with everyone else in the

(47:30):
case of societal collapse?

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I do love sunlight. Slight is a good thing for
human beings. Fifty years underground, that's a hell of a
long time.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, but you've got artificial lights, you've got the full
spectrum bulbs. You know, you've got virtual reality.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Just just looking at what this u Is based company's
safe is looking to do. This three hundred million dollar
network of those uber luxurious underground residential bunkers across fifty
Yuis cities and a planned one thousand affiliate global locations.
That is real light fall out.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Isn't it.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, fifty locations around New Zealand that you can be
a part of if you've got the membership.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
But there's no good having a bunk if people know
where the bunker is, because they're going to try and
get into the bunker with you, right, So it has
to be completely and utterly secret, which is interesting when
you talk to the Queenstown Mire and that was back
in twenty twenty, he knows nothing about it. But if
you build a bunker and it gets counsel approval, people
will know. Even if it's just the guy from the
council that gave you the approval, he's suddenly turning up

(48:29):
with the crowbar trying to get into your bunker.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to
hear from you on this. Have you thought about looking
at a bunker for your own property or indeed.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Somewhere are around New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (48:40):
And how do we feel about these billionaires building bunkers
in New Zealand. I've got no problem with them.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, well, I want to find out with r and
I'll be cracking that open as soon as the first
bomb goes up, and I'll be getting in there and
I'll be hanging out with them. That's the silicon. Fairly
entreneurs make space for me and my kids.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's get into this. Love to
hear from you on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
There's some great texts already coming through. If you want
to teach you more than welcome. Nine to nine two.
It is sixteen past two.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
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Speaker 7 (49:19):
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Speaker 2 (49:21):
Good afternoon, Jue.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
We're talking about doomsday bunkers in New Zealand on the
back of one company confirming for the first time that
they have built at least one bunker in New Zealand
for a wealthy client.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I'd like to hear from Tradees on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. Do you think it would be possible
to build a bunker in New Zealand without anyone knowing,
without gossip getting out the amount of regulation we have here,
ken trucks and you know, diggers go into an area
and all the various things that need to be in
a bunker be bought and placed without anyone knowing where

(49:52):
that bunker was, So we don't have any information with it.
It's confirmed that there is a bunker in New Zealand
and it's been built by a bunker building company. We're
trying to get hold of the president of the bunker
building company and ask him. He's called a president and
the the reason I read it as a president, Albert
is his name.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
But yeah, I mean, can you really imagine so, say
it was being built in Queenstown or the west coast
of the South Island. Do you really think that there
are local tradees and builders and landscapers that would be
able to keep that a secret. All it takes is
one big night down at the local pub and all
he boys.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, everyone knows where everything's happening. You know, everything's going
in New Zealand. We're a more small country like that.
I mean, that's what happened to Elaine my far in
Dominic pre year, wasn't it. They thought that New Zealand
was you know, I don't know what they thought, but
they got here and everyone immediately, oh, they're probably doing
something weird and reported them to the police. You know,
we know everything in New Zealand. If there's someone driving
up a gravel road, if there's a lot of stuff,

(50:50):
a lot of interesting stuff being bought and shipped into
the country and going up a gravel road, then we
know or a billionaires just able to do that kind
of thing, but a billionsnaires have the wherewithal to just
circumvent everything to the point where they could build one
of these bunkers that you can live in for fifty
years without anyone in this country.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Nine odd eight ten eighty is the number to call
this text here get hey guys. A mates buried a
twenty foot container on his ten acre block. It is
his wine cellar. But it didn't tell anybody about it,
right apart from apart from him obviously, the Texter.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yes, so it's a it's a wine cellar, but it
could be a bunker.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
It could be a bunker or a twenty foot container. You
could do some stuff in there.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Guys, there's way more than one bunker here. I saw
a company from the US stating they had built twelve
in Wanaka. Wow, twelve bunkers and Wonka. So I'm just thinking,
what's the point of a bunker of people know it's there? Yeah,
because it seems a big part of Doom Doom's day prepping.
And I've watched a lot of Doomsdam prepper shows, great
show at all. A lot of it seems to be
the security and people collecting weapons to protect themselves from

(51:51):
the people that aren't in a bunker, and the breakdown
of civilization and the people trying to get into your
into your bunker. So if you're building a bunker and
people know where it is, then that then that that
trade that worked on it put the you know, the
plumber that put the toilets on, They're going to knock
on the door with their family and go let me in. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
So, honestly, where in Wanaka could you build a bunker
and the likes of what they're talking about you without
anybody knowing knowing litt Alone twelve.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
This textas says, buying a bunker as insurance. You take
out insurance on your car, but you don't plan to
crash it. You simply did in case you have a crash.
A bunker is the same. Yeah, right, so so you
think that so if you think that a breakdown of civilization,
is that and that likely that you're really taking out
insurance by building spending one point seventy five million on

(52:40):
a bunker, Yeah, I mean, I guess it's one of
those things that if you never use it, you're probably
quite happy about it. I mean, you're definitely going to
take some mates down for a drink down there one
day and reveal it.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I'm just thinking, of course, if you spend one point
seventy five million on it, there's your man cave.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
You're going to be boys and watch the foot. I
promised the Missis I wouldn't tell anyone about this. We've
got it. I've got to show you that. Yeah, it's
the coolest bunker that you'll ever see. All right, when
we'll be back in just a minute with Mark, who's
been in a bunker. But, oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty do you think it's possible to build a doomsday
bunker in New Zealand without anyone knowing? And how do

(53:14):
you feel about these billionaires coming over digging holes and
setting up a situation where they can live for fifty
years down there when everything turns to crap. Have you
got a problem with it? H No, I think it's
cool as long as you can see the bunker.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty
years the number twenty two PUS two.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News
Talk ZB Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
We're talking about doomsday bunkers on the back of for
the first time a US company called Safe. They build
very luxurious bunkers, confirming that they have built one of
these prepper bunkers for a client somewhere in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
They just haven't said where. They're not cheap. They start
at one point seventy five million dollars. You want a bunker,
you got a bunker. You've been in a bunker, Mark,
You've been in a bunker, Yes.

Speaker 17 (54:02):
I have is a bunker and Toma Harry just outside
of Hamilton. It's quite an extensive bunker, very impressive. Was
taken there in a very secretive kind of way. It
was all done very late at night. And I was buying,
wanting to buy something off off this gentleman, and so

(54:23):
he took me to where he keeps all the things
that I was interested in, and I couldn't believe what
I was looking at was very extensive, and were conversations swiftly,
and how did you do this?

Speaker 5 (54:38):
And it was.

Speaker 17 (54:39):
Done a long time ago, over thirty years ago, and
it was it was he did it himself.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Wow. And how big is the spunker?

Speaker 17 (54:48):
Huge?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Huge, huge, like absolutely here supermarket size.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Like three double garages. Oh, it's cars for the garage,
really big in that sense.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
And so and it's under an underground bunker.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
Yep, it's at least I think it's ten or eleven
feet underground.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
And it was under the house, or was out in
the sort of remote location.

Speaker 6 (55:10):
It was near the house. You entered via the house
and you went so let your imagination run wild. You'd
go down to the basement there you were.

Speaker 17 (55:19):
Wow, you went through, You went through a couple of doors,
and next thing you know you were in it yet
to go down some steps.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Wow, and it wasn't very sorry, No, no, you go,
you keep prescribing. You went down some steps and you
walk into it. And what what did? What was in
the bunker A very extensive collection that I was interested in.

Speaker 18 (55:41):
Things.

Speaker 6 (55:42):
It woul would not be fair to say, well what
it was that had narrow and narrow things down a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
But my imagination, my imagination is racing Mark could be the.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Legal legal.

Speaker 17 (55:59):
And look, I think to turn to the wider conversation.
The gentleman has announced that he's built a bunker in
New Zealand. How it would simply if they bring over
the workers, like I know a fellow who built log
cabin adam wayhecke and he built, he bought over.

Speaker 19 (56:17):
What they called it.

Speaker 17 (56:17):
The Amish brought over a dozen Amish and they built
it for him out there.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
So that it seems incredibly expensive to ship the Armish
in here. Armus allowed on planes, don't they have to
go by horse and cart?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
The Armish they might have swum so with the spunker,
the spunker that you saw. So this was a doomsday bunker.
It wasn't just a hiding interesting products that you wanted
to buy a bun.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
It was plummed, it was plumbed. It had and it
had its own bore.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Wow, all right, and it.

Speaker 17 (56:50):
Had it so it was equipped to if the world
turned to custard.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
Yeah, they could go.

Speaker 17 (56:57):
Now, I'm not sure about power. You can get deep
into the conversation, but do you.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Go how much is more than one? How much do
you reckon it cost him? Surely that came up. You've
got a ballpark on what it would.

Speaker 17 (57:08):
Costs, so.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
You'd have to think.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
So just a diesel alone, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
To dig it dig it would have been forty grand
right alone, just to dig the hole?

Speaker 7 (57:24):
Maybe more?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, Now, Mark, you know I think sorry, you know no, Sorry,
So now you know where the bunker is, right, So
if the world does turn to the crab, are you
going to heat up there and just knock on the
outside of the bunker and go.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
I know what he's I know what he's got in it.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I'm going anywhere near it?

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Okay, right, right, So if anyone's listening around Tommy here
that he don't try and find this bunker.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
It's not going to end. Well for you, can you
give us anywhere anywhere near the ballpark of what you're
talking about? What'sn't it illegal? Alone?

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I thought you said it was legal. It's illegal.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
No, that's legal.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
This isn't a grow legal.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
So there's a difference between a grow room and a bunker. Mark,
That sounds like the Gentleman movie. It is so underground
bunker full of well, no one.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
What what do people have to keep? Locked up?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Guns?

Speaker 6 (58:17):
Thank you very much?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Oh my god. So it's a heavenly and you were
there to buy weapons off the sky and he took
you down to a bunker that was full of weapons.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
Yeah, and then you filled in the Gatsman story.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Wow, okay, all right, so you allowed back?

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Mark?

Speaker 14 (58:33):
Is this?

Speaker 17 (58:35):
I'm sure sure.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
There was trade to be done and he trade to
be done?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
What kind of weapons is he got down there?

Speaker 17 (58:41):
Mark?

Speaker 6 (58:43):
Impressive?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Ones, how impressive?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Very is the range in the bunker?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Or does he, you know, show off the weirs above ground?

Speaker 6 (58:59):
That did probably be giving away quite a bit. But
everything's legal.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
You're telling Sometimes it's legal, Marks, sometimes it's illegal. In
the story, we're operating the gray gray area. Oh well,
thank you so much for your call, Mark, Yeah, fascinating
for more, more questions and answers there from Mark.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
So somewhere near Tommy, Yeah, is a bunker with some
formidable weaponry.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah. So when the when it all goes down, when
civilization collapses, I'll be riding around there with a a
metal detective.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I'll be ringing Mark and say, hey, mate, take me
with you.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Let's the number to call, and when we come back,
we'll we'll share the details of a thirty five million
dollar bunker near Queenstown out from Dan. This is going
to be good, all right.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean and having a great
discussion about doomsday bunkers in New Zealand on the back
of for the first time it being confirmed by a
US company called Safe that they have built an underground
bunker somewhere in New Zealand. For a very wealthy client.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Tyler. I've just been thinking about what I would want
in my bunker. Yeah, okay, I'd want power for fifty years.
So some kind of solid form of powers, off the
grid power, practical hydroproducts so you can grow your food, right, yep.
And so that power you'd have to have, you know,
full spread from lights, grow lights, you know, yep. Okay,
a source of clean water obviously, movie theater, movie theater. Nice,

(01:02:05):
a movie theater, large kitchen, large space kitchen because I
like cooking. Some kind of basketball court or sports kind
of area.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Okay, so just a sports court in general.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yeah, I know, if you want. I think basketball court
is a realistic squash courts as well, in full gym,
full gym, yep, you know, at least minimum twenty five
meter pull, like a like one of those artificial driving ranges,
golf driving ranges, you know one yeah, digital one, you know. Yeah,
that saves space. Actually, new tournament they've got over there

(01:02:35):
in the States. An armory. But what's in the armory weapons? Yeah,
some sweet bedrooms, like just really nice bedrooms, some kind
of virtual reality thing. Did I say, a full movie theater?

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Yeah, yeah, you said they are you going to rock
DVDs for the movie theater because you know there's no
Hollywood to make anymore films.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Yeah, so you need to get every movie that's ever
made downloaded into that system and a periscope so I
can never look around up top, so you know when
it's okay to get out. So that's key, the periscope.
I like that. Yeah, So if anyone needs to add
to that, then I'd like to hear their thoughts. But
those are my basics. I just like that you hit
at least twenty five meters.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Why I got the four hog go Olympics Olympic size
the diving pool as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Yeah, and I want room for at least fifty people
down there, so I'm going to get bored. Just yeah,
all right, ribe your thoughts on these bunkers being built
in New Zealand.

Speaker 19 (01:03:25):
Yeah, Matt, Hi Tyler, you guys are doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 19 (01:03:31):
You guys are awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 19 (01:03:33):
Just just want to say I think New Zealand doesn't
have anything to worry about really, you know. I mean,
we're a small fresh in the sea and we're pretty safe,
so I don't think we need to worry too much
about it, and whoever built the bunker must have lots

(01:03:55):
of money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, yeah, well I think, you know, the suggestion is
that they're Silicon Valley billionaires. When I was a kid, though, Rob,
I was told that, you know, no nukes would be
pointed at New Zealand, but we'd get the we'd get
the nuclear winter. And also there was a good chance
that a bunch of you know, people would arrive in ships,

(01:04:18):
you know, you know, refugees and ships, armed refugees and ships.
So it might not be that we're actually in trouble
with what's actually happening. It's what happens with the people
that are escaping what has happened turn up and then
you in sort of civilization breaks down type situation. And
under those circumstances, that might not be too bad to
just nip into a bunker for fifty years and just

(01:04:39):
wait till things are cooled out.

Speaker 19 (01:04:42):
Yeah well, I personally I think it's silly. But if
you're in the States, yeah, well it's a whole different
breed over there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Well, where would you go, Rob, if at all?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
If society broke down for whatever reason and things are
when tits up, where would you go?

Speaker 20 (01:05:00):
The language Diyler.

Speaker 19 (01:05:05):
I don't know. I'd probably go to the Hawaii somewhere
like that, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Right within the country. But that is really pushing the
boat out, thank.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
You, Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Yeah. I mean a lot of people are thinking New
Zealand's the place to go. So we're already here, so
we're their vantage. It'll be a terrible situation if you
wanted these Silicon Valley billionaires and you've got your bunker
and your bolt hole in New Zealand, you're already all
the way over there. You know, you got to get
in your private jet pretty fast to get over here,
to get down your bunker. Yeah, and you know, if
civilization went down, I'd be waiting at the airports to
follow the people arriving in the private jets back to

(01:05:36):
where their bunker is. Definitely I'll be chasing those I'll
be chasing those cars from the private jets to the bunkers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
You'd be very guarded if you got here and spend
all that money and there's just a whole bunch of
ki we smashing your wine and your bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Henry saying I need to get a harem down there.
Difficult organize. It is med max hard to get past
the partner as well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yeah, oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
It is twenty one to.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Have it all you talk said, be good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
We're talking about doomsday bunkers in New Zealand on the
back of an article in New Zealand Hero which confirms
for the first time there has been one built somewhere
in New Zealand for a very wealthy client.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Yeah, and I missed something my list. A lot of
people have pointed out us to what I'd want on
my bunker, my dream bunker. I missed out. I missed oxygen,
which I think is a key point. And thank you
for pointing that out. That's a biggie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
You wouldn't last fifty years without that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
You've missed that on your list and you're booking your bunket. Yeah,
and then you get down there and you go, oh,
I forgot the oxygen. What an absolute disaster. Felix, you
had a bunker.

Speaker 21 (01:06:48):
Well, not really had a bunker. I had things that
have a lot of bunkers still in South Africa.

Speaker 19 (01:06:53):
We were just pretty paid.

Speaker 21 (01:06:55):
For any genocide that's happening in South Africa. So we
were fully prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Right, So you didn't you didn't have a bunker, but
you had sort of there's a lot.

Speaker 21 (01:07:06):
Of supplies in a bunker. But they didn't have a
living room with bunker underground something like that, But some
of my friends did a lot of them had.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Right, And so that was bunker more for the movements
of other people as opposed to you know, fallout from
a nuclear sort of situation. It was just to protect
yourself from you know, people attacking you.

Speaker 21 (01:07:28):
Really, yes, yes, yes, yes, with all the things in
crimes and going on in South Africa, you need to
have exit planning. We had an excess strategy with a
lot of food, a lot of medicine, a lot of
other stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:07:41):
So we were prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
And would that be a bunker that you wouldn't be
able to see from these people that had bankers? Would
you not be able to see it from above ground?
Like would be hard hard to find?

Speaker 21 (01:07:53):
No, they had containers bold underground supplies. They had about
four or five containers connected to each other with rooms
and that oxygen supply. They had full supply. They had
hydroponics for all the vegetables. But even at Feesus and

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everything was wired up with pelar panels.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
And which and the idea would be you'd wait out
a siege type situation until people moved on. Yes, yes, wow.
And so you live in New Zealand. Do you think
there's a need for people to have a bunker down here?

Speaker 21 (01:08:30):
I don't think, so that's why I moved here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
What were the what were the South African bunkers? What
were they? What did they cost to set up? It
sounds quite elaborate.

Speaker 11 (01:08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:08:40):
The friend of mine had about.

Speaker 16 (01:08:44):
Forty grand in it.

Speaker 21 (01:08:45):
Yeah, right, and grand that's four hundred thousand grand. That's
a lot of money. You can buy all else for
that kind of money. But just his ammunition were about
fifty grand just the ammunition.

Speaker 7 (01:08:55):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
So I guess a farm is quite a good way
to set up a bunker because you can have diggers
on the farm, you can you can bring in a
lot of supplies that people don't necessarily know what it
is for. It could be for agriculture, it could be
for your bunker. You know that that's the place to
build a bunker in the middle of a huge, huge farm.
There's so much activity on there. Who knows what they're doing?

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:09:17):
So most of the farmers have connected bunkers between the
farm houses. There's about fifty farmers in a place in
Mumpoplelongo that's got a connected bumpers, bunkers underground. So it
was a little bit and they started an the bunkers
on the ground, one one with many, one with closed,

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one with meadas is actually the most important part bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yeah, it's absolutely And so those bankers are connected with
sort of the coroner of mind shafts or a little tunnels.
Yeah wow. And so so you know how how large
is that network over We're talking kilometers between bunkers underground tunnels.

Speaker 21 (01:09:58):
Well one at the most right, and then you got
a closer ones with fifty meters.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Wow. And so they do they have exit tunnels. So
you know, when things go down, you run to a
bunker and you can escape in a number of different
different exits, you know, into safer areas or whatever, cover
of darkness or water.

Speaker 21 (01:10:18):
Yeah, most of the exit exits was used for eating.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Things right, right, fascinating what an insight I had no
idea all these bunker networks existed in well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Well, thank you for you call Felix. Yeah, that's that's
interesting because that's that's a bunker for human activity as
opposed to you know, as opposed to like fall out.
You know, you're not you're not needing to purify the
year above. You just hiding basically and trying to escape
when when things go down. Bob, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 23 (01:10:49):
I'm great.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
Listen.

Speaker 23 (01:10:50):
It's a great story you're telling, and I guess appropriate
at the time. But the bunker I'm talking about surreal
the genuine article. It was built in Canada and if
you google it, it's colloquy. It's known as a deafen bunker.
And this was built during the Cold War, the house
that can Indian government in the event of a Soviet

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nuclear attack on the North America. How do you spell
that d I E F in E N b U
n K different bunker. Oh, yes, wow, and it'll about
it's now it's now a Cold War museum.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Oh my goodness. This is spectacular.

Speaker 23 (01:11:29):
It's huge. It would have held nuclear attack, it would
have held the Canadian cabinet and they would have run
the country from there, but included into it is a
vault within a bolt and if and that was where
all Canada's gold reserves were going to be held. And
then this is you know, in the in the event
of a milk downside the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
It's a very sort of functional bunker, isn't it? Is
that not not a lot of nothing aesthetic there, it's
all it's.

Speaker 23 (01:12:02):
It's purely to you in the event. As I say,
I don't know, it's about four or five floors deep
underground and I could hear, you know, height of the thing.
It would hold probably two or three hundred people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Actually, there is part of it. There's quite a nice
bar in there. Actually there's sort of a there is
there is a sort of a recreational area that are
found in some of these pictures. But yeah, most of
it very very functional and military looking. How many levels
has it?

Speaker 19 (01:12:25):
God?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Is it five or six levels?

Speaker 23 (01:12:27):
Is it six levels?

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Sexy?

Speaker 23 (01:12:29):
This vault is right at the bottom level, you know,
where the gold reserves are going to be held. And
it was you know, blast proof and the way the
doors were functioned, they were vertical to the shaft that
goes into it, so a nuclear blast wouldn't take it out?

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
What did they what did they decommission it? I wonder
if they built another one, a more up to date
bunker for Canadian governments.

Speaker 23 (01:12:50):
Now, at the end of the Cold War ninety nineteen
ninety eight, they turned it into a museum. You know,
it was purely a Cold War response to nuclear attack.
And now I say it's a museum and they're putting
it back to him as I was there, you know,
probably about fifteen eighteen years ago, and it was just
being set up, so it was very spartan. But since

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then now and you've looked at the pictures, I think
they're bringing back stuff that used to be in or
the type of materials that would have been in it,
as if it had got into use back in those
back during the Cold War.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I think the set designers for the TV show Silo
have been down to this bunker, you know, they do
their research because it's certainly got similar vibes. Do we
have anything like that in New Zealand? Does our government
have a bunker? An emergency operations center?

Speaker 23 (01:13:37):
In the Beehive, there's the emergency bunk, you know, when
they activated every time. I'm an ex serviceman, so I've
actually been into it, but I know, you know, that's
where in an emergency, a civil emergency, you know, or
or you know what's going now, they activate the bunker
and they call it in below the beehive.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah, and what the government could ride out something pretty
catastrophic for for a little bit.

Speaker 23 (01:14:01):
Of time in there, Well, I guess they could. But
that's where they control, you know, organize the country and
event wells you would be where every time is a
natural disaster, you know, like the recent typhoon, they activate
the Emergency Response Center and that's where you you know,
all emergency services, a military, so it's all coordinated from
the one spot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:14:22):
The nice test time for nuclear attack though.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
The NCMC, the National Crisis Emergency Management Center. I'll tell
you what, when things go down, I'll be knocking on
the door of that and telling them to let me in,
Let me in, luck, get me a space. Guys. My
mate was the project manager for a thirty five million
dollar off grid bunker slash property around Queenstown somewhere. It
could be off grid for ten years with commercial generators

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and ear was for an American billionaire.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Or that is a juicy text, isn't it a three
or or.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
A thirty five million dollar bunker. You're going to get
a lot for that. This Texas is no bunker for
me post apocalypse. I'd rather be up top and get
the welder onto the ute mad Max style more fun
than hiding underground. I'm not keen on being cooped onto
a box. That cheers Simon, I like your style. Simon's
immediately going to get a mo o hawk. He's gonna
make some he weld up some armor and then gasoline strops,

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straps some under the front of as Tarana and the
road call himself humongous.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Yeah, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Will take a few more phone calls very shortly. It's
nine to three.

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Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Few texts coming in about tosday bunkers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Yeah, because there's been a confirmed bunker built in New Zealand.
A very luxurious, expensive bunker has been built by Safe,
which is a bunker building company out of the States.
A lot of people just texting the two words Peter
Thield with question marks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Yeah wow, that he would be high on the list
of potential to build that bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Pete your thoughts on bunkers?

Speaker 18 (01:16:09):
Yeah, hey, I'm putting my tinfoil hat on what if
these guys because people saying the buglers in the Zealand,
but nobody seems to know where they are. So what
if these guys who are building the bungers are saying,
you give us one point five to ten billion dollars,
we'll build a bunk before you you can come down
in the vent of the apocalypse and the just pocket
the monte and don't build it, because like if the

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Wiel goes to pot are you going to say.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Good boyt Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:16:33):
It's like these people that are that are selling pit
insurance to feed their pits after the rapture and questions
are stepping that up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
You're not going to go to consuming New Zealand day
and say, hey, these guys ripped me off my bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
So there was.

Speaker 18 (01:16:45):
Actually they were talking about a vault oral the Canadian
government was going to go and all the bullion was
going to go Yeah, there was something similar to that
in nine ee just north of.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Wellington, right, So so like are you.

Speaker 18 (01:16:57):
Go State House in Rata Street and nine e and
at the back of the bulletin was a big vault
where all the bulletin would go in the event of
a Japanese invasion during World War two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Just set the back of a state house in Ratas Street.
I love that. That's a great key story. Thank you
so much for you call, Pete. Bunkers have been built
in Queenstown for the last thirty years, supposedly safest place
in the world for nuclear fallouts. As a stector text
to hey guys, a doomsday banker is a complete waste
of time and money unless you are in the country

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where the bunker is and are within probably half an
hour away from it. Also, why would you want to
be around after a nuclear event? That's from Mary. Yeah,
I mean you can see. It's actually quite a good
plot to a movie. Some people have a bunker built
in another town. What Pete's saying, in another country, You
get in your private jet with your family, all your
wealthy friends. You arrive and it turns out that someone's

(01:17:49):
just they've just aied upper pictures of the bunker that
they've built, and you know, and then they haven't built
anything either that or there and there with their family,
and they're not going to lead you in.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Sorry buddy, Yeah, snooze, you lose. Great discussion that, thank
you very much, right after three o'clock looking forward to this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Yeah, that's right. I spent some time with some buffalo
in the weekend out in Cleveden and love a buffalo,
but just got me interested in into talking about different
types of livestock people are running in the country. What
are you farming? That's a bit different from the sheep
and the cattle that we're so famous for.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Nineteen nine two is the text number
where we'll catch you again after Newsport in Weather which
is next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Very very good afternoons you happy Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Great to have your company as always, and thank you
very much for all the phone calls and the correspondence
over the last couple of hours. But on to unusual
animals that you farm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah, that's right. So I was in Cleveden over the
weekend and I was hanging around some buffaloe and I
was impressed by buffalosally the thought about farming different different animals,
and of course Cleveland buffalo are very famous. You can
you get you get the buffalo milk, you get the
buffalo fetter, you get the butalo buffalo meat. But it

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just made me think about what people are farming around
the country, and the challenges of farming different things, and
why you farm something that isn't just the standard cattle
and sheep like you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
I had no idea buffalo farms existed, and I'm glad
they do. But remember there was a time where alpacas
was quite trendy. There was a lot going on with
the alpaka community, maybe because their wool was worth a
bit more. But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call if you farm an unusual animal.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
We love to see. I just want to hear about it. Yeah,
I found it uniquely interesting. Imagine the challenges you know,
a from an abatoass perspective and just a grazing perspective
and fencing and just the logistics are very different from
the tried and true that have been done by so
many people over the years.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Even deer would be considered, you know, slightly left. Yep, dear,
quite unique.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yeah, a few people farming emo out there. Now, I'll
tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Someone who was listening a little bit earlier when she
heard that you stayed at this farm and saw the
beautiful buffalo is Helen Dorristein. She is the owner of
Cliveden Buffalo Company, and joins us on the phone now afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Helen, Hi, how are you so you own the buffaloes
that I was probably staring at? Do you own the
ones that are near the cafe?

Speaker 11 (01:20:35):
The near the cafe? So we own We've got we've
got a large head and we have two farms, one
down North Road and one towards car Car Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Oh right, got.

Speaker 11 (01:20:47):
About to two hundred head. Oh you would have seen.

Speaker 12 (01:20:50):
No.

Speaker 11 (01:20:50):
I raised the ones that are at the little cafe.
They were my They were my pets, used to follow
me around the garden and then usually sold them to
the farmhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
The farmhouse cafe, which is a fantastic operation. Boy that
I mean that you have to book a table there.
It is a very very busy, great food, great great time.

Speaker 11 (01:21:07):
Faint.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Yeah yeah. So what what what made you guys get
into farming Buffalo?

Speaker 11 (01:21:14):
Well, simply, we started the Farmer's Market, Cleveland Farmer's Market.
We still run it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
That's can I just compliment you on that. I was
at the Cleveland Farmer's Market. What a great, great set
up that is. It's just so cool, you know, buying
eggs that have been that are from the farmer that
that that you know that I was going to say
the farmer that laid the eggs, the farmer probably collected
them rather than laid them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
How life should be going right back to basics.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Wine from the wine makers, eggs from the egg makers.
It's it's fantastic.

Speaker 11 (01:21:46):
We've you know, we've eaten exclusively from the market for
the last twenty years and it's been an absolute pleasure,
absolute pleasure. So we've got sorry, you got many friends. Sorry,
we've got many friends. Friendships sort of developed from that process,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
So going back to starting up the Buffalo farm, how
does one get a buffalo into the country.

Speaker 11 (01:22:09):
Oh, we flew them in. They flew and liftanza and
bo bogie buffalo. You know they were in the cargo hold,
and actually we had one shipment, so we bought sixty
head and we were the first people to bring a
milking herd in. And it was we had to write
the protocol. Honestly, we were young, and we just thought
we were bullet proof. And you know when I say young,

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you know, fortyish. But we thought we were capable of anything.
And it certainly tried us. But so we wrote the protocol,
got them in. But the third shipment, because we we
bought in sixty head altogether in four balls, and the
third shipment was just before Christmas, and they loaded them
wrong and they kicked a hole in the in the
crate and the whole plane added turner around and we

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thought we were in for about three hundred thousand dollars
worth of plane turnaround, but it was their fault, thank goodness,
and we did get them in, and we got them
in just in the nick of time because to bring
in sufficient animals, we brought them in actually pregnant, but
you can only bring them in to a certain extent
of their gestation or you know, it's not fair. So
that that was tricky. It was Christmas. The planes were

(01:23:17):
shutting down, and the animals were pregnant, and there were
hundreds of thousands of dollars in line.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
It was hair raising.

Speaker 11 (01:23:24):
Yeah, so it was pretty exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Yeah. So I think I interrupted you when you were
saying when your answered the question, why, oh.

Speaker 11 (01:23:32):
Well, farmer's market. So Farmer's Market, Cornerstone. Farmer's Market is
everything you need for a good meal. You do have
to cook it, but a good meal, and cheese is
one of those things. And I had lovely cheese there,
but they wouldn't come on a wet day and they
weren't regular, and I needed that market to have regular cheesemakers.
So my husband said, I'll make you some cheese, Darling,

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and held them so and we thought. We looked at
it long and hard, and we decided that the only
way to have an edge in a place, an open
market like New Zealand was to a milk that was different,
where one of the requirements was the freshness of the milk.
And so Buffalo, we're not farmed here. We've been to Italy.

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We'd eaten Motsralla in the Bay of Naples. We knew
how good it was. You know, anyone that's traveled through
Pakistan or India will know how beautiful the buffalo milk
products are there, and it just wasn't happening here. And
so we thought, well we'll have a go and and
you know, six literally six days later, we're in the
middle of Darwin and a little old jimney sort of

(01:24:41):
tied together with string, going through creeks full of salties,
looking at these buffalo and I said, I'm not milking them.
And we take a crocodile dundee moment and they were wild.
So the first first year or five milking was this
was like the wild West. They'd jump around and turn
upside down and climb out and it was it was

(01:25:02):
hell on wheels. But now we've got a tremendous, milky,
beautiful herd, and we've through sleeped of breeding and ai
from we're bringing seamen in from Italy. We've actually got
tripled our milk volume. Well, yeah, it's it's now looking viable,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I'm our producer. Andrew here is a
huge fan of buffalo milk. He said, there's no creamy
of milk in the world.

Speaker 11 (01:25:26):
Oh, it's divine. I like to lay track on people
and they come over to the house for you know,
we had a guy there this morning doing some contracting
for us, Derek. He's lovely and he I gave him
a fat white seat and then I said it's buffalo milk.
And they literally, you know, because they don't know why
it's so creamy, but it's beautiful, beautiful a cup of coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
We can you get it outside of the Farmer's Market.

Speaker 11 (01:25:50):
Well, we sell our cheeses throughout the country, you know,
wonderful support of places like more Wilson and so on
and through the New Worlds and Farrows. But we also
sell hospital and to hospital, about sixty percent into hospit.
But the farmer's market is where you'll get to try
the whole range, and we're there. We're there every weekend anyway,

(01:26:11):
and so I don't know if you know, but it's
actually Farmer's Market Week coming up this Saturday. So if
you get on down to a farmer's market, nine times
out of ten you're guaranteed to find someone doing something
really interesting you know that you haven't tried before.

Speaker 14 (01:26:30):
Yeah, yea of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Things you haven't tried before. What would you say to
people that are thinking of bringing in an animal and
trying to farm creatures that aren't the typical New Zealand
creatures to farm.

Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
I would say keep your day job because it's a
long time before you actually turn it around, like a
really long time. It's not bit coin, you know, and
I'd say embrace it and be patient and have faith
in yourself and don't need I mean, I had peace

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will literally laugh at me when we were doing I
had one guy I just loved what did you do
that for? It said, we just laughed at me, you know,
and I just think, well, yeah, you know, I'm probably
not the most sensible thing to do, but gosh, we
make grape cheese and we've had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Good on you. It's a very cool thing. Yeah, and
it's exciting. And you know, the challenges because those buffalo
need to be underwater part of some of the time, don't.

Speaker 11 (01:27:31):
They They love to wallow. And actually that was one
of the hugest challenges because of course the farms, some
of the farms and cleaved in lake parks, you know,
and so trying to because we wanted to keep the
horns on them because they use them like a radiator,
because they have they have less sweat glands and a cow.
So they cover themselves in the clay from the from
the from the wallows to cook, keep themselves cold, and

(01:27:53):
keep the pests off themselves, and so to try to
make sure that we could keep the horns on them,
you know, and say, well, you so do make holes,
but we will fill them on every year and so on,
and so you know, one of the dreams is one day,
when we have our own farm, we'd a beautiful, big,
permanent wash for them. And you know, because they love
they do love the water.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
They just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
What a great story. I well, thank you so much
for sharing that story with us, Helen, and congratulations on
your success with the Buffalo and good on you for
doing such a bold thing. And also love the Cleveland
Farmer's markets. Such a good time, so cool.

Speaker 11 (01:28:28):
Hey, thanks for coming to Cleveland. Pretty well, we love
it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I'll be back all right, have a great day. Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
That is Helen Dorenstein, co founder of the Cleveden Buffalo Company.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
What a great story.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
I mean, you know, key is like that taking a punt,
and they obviously took a massive punt and it's worked
out phenomenally.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Here were you farming something weird love to hear from
here eighty or nineteen nine two is the text number
seventeen past three.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Good afternoon, We've asked a question, what unusual animal do
you farm? On the back of Matt spending the weekend
down at a farm in Clevedon and seeing buffaloes and
being enamored with those beautiful beasts on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
The back of the breaking news that I was or
a buffalo and I was. I was very interested in them,
very cool beasts. But what are the cool beasts you're
farming in New Zealand, Sharon.

Speaker 24 (01:29:18):
Oh, good afternoon. One of then a few years ago.
Now I used to find well, they're not that unusual nowadays,
but we used to farm angora goats and we used
to farm so oh deer. This is an awkland I'm
talking about. It was only a lifestyle block, so it
wasn't a big farm, and that was quite interesting, so

(01:29:39):
the least, but the because the deer were absolutely gorgeous.
But not very far down the road from where Islands
is Alan Gibs Sculpture Park. Now he's got there that
he farms are zebrains, EMUs and giraffes, wow, long hang
cattle and all sorts of things, so he would be
most of one and probably one of those unusual farmers.

Speaker 6 (01:30:02):
I would say.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
So when you say farming, is he farming zebra? Zebra
or a zebra or a is he keeping them?

Speaker 24 (01:30:10):
Well, I guess you could say he's probably keeping them,
you know, on the place. But he does have quite
a few long haul cattle and other sorts of beasts
like that as well in goats so and sheep, of
course anybody else does. But definitely seeing the other things
that the pad, especially the draft, is unusual.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
That's so good. I wonder of the rules on what
you can take to an abatoir. I'd love to if
someone knows on eight hundred and eighteen eighty. So if
I turned up to you know, with my trailer and
I had a couple of zebra on there, can can
can you keep cut these up for me? I wonder
what people would say. There's probably some rules around that.

Speaker 24 (01:30:46):
Well possibly, but I remember one day I did actually
see one arrive on a trailer.

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
That was kind of unusual.

Speaker 19 (01:30:54):
You're driving along the road.

Speaker 24 (01:30:55):
Well, but yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Yeah, does he does he make zebra cheese and and
ter rap cheese.

Speaker 24 (01:31:05):
Well, not that I know, but you know, there's probably
the reason why I could.

Speaker 15 (01:31:08):
Can you.

Speaker 6 (01:31:11):
Would be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I was on this television show called Taskmaster and it
shot out at a mansion outside of Auckland, and that
was built built for people that wanted to have drafts,
and they had this dream that some wealthy people, they
had dreams that they could feed the drafts off the
deck up the top deck, so the top decks really
high up so that they thought, oh, the drafts will
come up and will just feed them off there. But
then the neighbors were complained and they were allowed to

(01:31:35):
get the draft see country and no. Thank you so
much for your call. Sharon. Thank Sharon. Sorry, do you
have something else to say this? Sharon, Sorry, cut you off.

Speaker 24 (01:31:46):
I'm just going to say, you actually can feed them.

Speaker 18 (01:31:48):
You know.

Speaker 24 (01:31:49):
I've actually been to the place and you're standing on
a particular part where they are, and they are just right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
The draft has a terrifying black tongue, doesn't it. Their
tongues are blue blue.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Blue toes, Yeah, though, don't they They're very lucky animal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
I fit a draft at a zoo once, so I
thought that was black, but yeah, dark blue maybe Thank
you so much for your call, Charon.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call just to tax so he I'd like to see
your milk a giraffe, Tyler. That's a fair point. If
they didn't like you doing that, well, that would be
the last of you, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
What's the quote from Meet the Parents. I've got nipples?
Could you milk me good? On the butterfalo lady? Love
to hear that. That's the good old New Zealand spirit
missing nowadays. Hey, guys, I made heaps of money from
my ugly sheep. They were valuable because of the wool
they produce. Yeah, all right, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
If you farm an unusual and more just something slightly
left field, love to hear from you on Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
It is twenty three past.

Speaker 20 (01:32:50):
Three, Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk z'b very.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Good afternoon, dude, twenty six past three.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yeah, we're talking about farming odd animals. After I had
a great time with some buffalo. That sounds kind of weird.
In the weekend, Dave you ran an emu fan.

Speaker 16 (01:33:12):
Yeah, I used to manage the avatar on the world's
biggest innu farm in Western Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Ah right, oh right, So tell us more. How many
emu would be on the world's biggest inu farm.

Speaker 16 (01:33:22):
We had five thousand breeders. We're on a two hundred
and sixty thousand acred property, but five thousand acres of
that was farmed for the inu.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
What are the challenges of farming? And you know running
an enu avatoire, have you just out in.

Speaker 16 (01:33:41):
The bush and it's just just to make You're to
breed them and because they're all grain feeds as well.
When we used to breed them, get the eggs, we
had our own hatchery. We hatch our eggs and then
breed the chicks and bring the chicks up and then
you get them all to the avatoire and then kill
them on site and put them all in containers. But
everyone spinks you kill them for the meat. It's not.

(01:34:02):
The meat was the second product. It was for the fat,
right where all the Yeah, fat's got all the goodness.
It's really really good healing property, isn't it. And we
used to send that down to Perth to get rendered
to get the impurities taken out, and then it used
to get sent to America to pharmaceutical companies to make

(01:34:23):
up all pharmaceutical products.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
You know, what's it like? What's it like trying to
herd em?

Speaker 16 (01:34:27):
You uh funny to say that your pins are all
set up exactly like you do venison, so you have
no corners and stuff. And I used to always bring
kievy boys I had to work for me because they
were good workers. And I was showing them all how
to herd up one day and I said, this is
how you come up nice and slowly. And then one
of the ms turned around and kicked me right and

(01:34:49):
love me to the ground. And one of the key
re voices us and that how you do it? I know,
we don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Do you do anything with the feathers days now?

Speaker 16 (01:35:00):
Just plat with them? And we kept the skins and
we used to take the legs skins off the skins
we used to be we could use them for like
really soft softly the use and for like gloves like
golf clubs and in the legs. And then the meat
we used to sell the restaurants. The meat's very very lean.
It's like Bennison, very very lean now and it's not

(01:35:21):
like when you're fat or kept fat and the cattle
bee staw a sheet with a battle goes through the muscle.
All the fat on an emu grows on the outside
and it comes off like a stick in skin.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Who eats all the meats of the In terms of
the market, is it mostly Australia.

Speaker 16 (01:35:34):
Or that was probably the biggest down for the company
that I worked for. Probably why they went down this
because they didn't have a good supply Chaine. All the
restaurants and everything. They were saw more les concentrating. They've
got more money for the oil and then they didn't
really have that second degree market to follow onto all

(01:35:54):
the meat actually run and sit up by a key.
We've both called John John McLeod a really really nice fellow.
He's probably the world's most knowledgeable person on EMUs in
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah, and there was a bit of emu farming in
New Zealand, was there.

Speaker 14 (01:36:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:36:09):
It was a bit funny here when I went to
a couple of to you when I come home, people
playing twenty thousand dollars a bird, you know, and we're
accidentally running them over and the land cruises. You know,
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Well, yeah, speaking of military there's you can't mention them
is without mentioning the nineteen thirty two EMU wars. I
think they come up about every two weeks on the show. Yeah,
but yeah, when they delay with the Royal Australian Artillery
to try and bring down the EMUs using the Lewis
guns and you know the the the Australian Army lost
that against the lost.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
When the running I'll.

Speaker 16 (01:37:21):
Chase them beside them and the land cruise are doing
fifty five sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
You're a brave man. Don't take on the all right, hey,
thank you for you call Dave interesting stuff quick takes here.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
Getay, guys, love in your program. What is the brand
name of Helen's Cheese and is available in the South Island?
So Cleveland Buffalo, right, yeah, Cleveland Buffalo Company, Cleveden, Cleveden
my bed and yes, if you go on their website,
which is just Cleveden Buffalo dot co dot z, they've
got their stockists and there are a few places in

(01:37:55):
the South Island that stocks at Christos they'need in Queenstown,
among a few others.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
You can get you get the milk and get the cheese.
You can get the yogurt. The mozzarella cheese looks blume
and good and that they're mozarella. Yeah, yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
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farm an unusual animal. We'd love to hear from you.
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About half easy?

Speaker 14 (01:41:25):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Thanks, Julie, Matt and Tayler.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
All right, so we aren't talking about unusual animals that
you do farm currently or have farmed in the past.
Some great texts coming through. If you want to flick
through a texture more than welcome nine to nine to
and we'll get to some of those very shortly. A
lot of texts coming through about the m use.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Actually, yeah, so I look and there's people farming ostriches.
What type of buffalo these bison like in the Canadian
planes water buffalo as found in India. We were talking
about the buffalo. Bison are very different from buffalo, aren't they. Well,
I don't know, but by some of the huge.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Ones with the hump on their shoulder, just because these
ones are clearly water buffalo, right, if they love, they
need a bit of water. Hold on, I didn't think
we'd keep getting deep into bison yet.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
But bison and buffalo are different animeralds, though the terms
are often used interchangeably. They are both large, horned, ox
like animals. The most obvious difference is the large hump
on the back of the bison. Buffalo do not have
a hump. Bison have a massive head, but buffalo have
a head that is smaller and more cow like. Buffalo

(01:42:33):
live in generally warmer climates than by.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
Sere you go, don't see, you never learn anything on
this program.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Julie, how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:42:41):
I'm very good and good afternoon. In a great subject.
I'll tell you that bison is from America, and that's
what the Indians used to shoot they're huge. We did
have them here. We did have a peer in Wellington
Zoo many many years ago, and I think they went
up to the middle of the North Island. But we

(01:43:03):
had Texas throng horns. In nineteen ninety eight we took
over a one of the biggest herds in the country.
There was eighty five pure bred females and they came
down in the truck, quite quite full trucks.

Speaker 7 (01:43:20):
It was quite.

Speaker 14 (01:43:21):
Amusing to see them when they came up the hill
because it was like the horns all sticking out of
the top of the truck. And some of them were
quite huge. Those kettles came down and only one required
any kind of attention about the size of a band aid.

(01:43:41):
They were unusual kettle, their feral. We had them until
just a few years ago and we had to I'm
getting myself back. I had him felt for just a
few years ago. But the herd got split up and

(01:44:02):
some went to Wanganyat and some went to Huntley. So
just turning around some sorry about that. Yeah, the calves
were born. The calves were born at twenty one ki
lows thereabouts. They just sat down and popped them out

(01:44:24):
and within within twenty minutes or so they were up
and running. They were very very unusual cattle. We've got
too old to have them now. They were got to
be a little bit fit, but we were able to
work them in the cattle facilities that we had. We

(01:44:45):
had one steer who stood at sixteen two hands high.
I've got the photos of him. He was called Marmalade
because of the color. He used to just tilt his
head and go up the cattle rays. I've got a
photo of him standing on the way on our way bridge,

(01:45:05):
well above the gate. Amazing cattle.

Speaker 11 (01:45:10):
They used to have.

Speaker 14 (01:45:13):
They used to have like a crash system at carving.
The cows would had their calves and some would go
away and graze and others would stay and look after
the calves. One of those cows let out any kind
of blur, the whole herd would arrive.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
When Julia, do you have to what about the you know,
taking into the slaughterhouse the abatire, do you have to
give a heads up? Is a different a different setup,
you know.

Speaker 14 (01:45:43):
There was one question you said about some cattle with
wrong horns. A lot of people confuse Scottish Highland cattle
as longhorns. They're hairy. The works were not taking them
for a while they because of the hair. But with

(01:46:04):
the works for us, we're in fielding, so did give
us an exemption at the time because Nate we couldn't
put NATE tags on them because there it was too
dangerous to actually NATE tag them.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
But so sorry to jump in there, Julie. What are
those tags?

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
What do they do? Nate?

Speaker 14 (01:46:24):
NATE is an organization that government government are orchestrated to
control TV in the country. Right, so every cattle bee
in the country and dea have to have a little
white tag in their ear with an identification number, and
so every we put all all farmers who farm those

(01:46:48):
of cattle and dea have to be registered with NATE.
So if you if I sold you some cattle, you
would have to be NATE registered and I would have
to supply NATE with your details so they could be
attached to your farm.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
The complices.

Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
Yeah, just another bureau crating Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Oh, Julie, think Think Think you for your insights into
longhorn farming. Yeah, long horn cattle. I love that. Hey, guys,
love your problem. What's the name of the Helen's cheese
and is it available in the South Island or did
you already read that one? Now you already said what
it is, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Well you can give her another shout out though.

Speaker 17 (01:47:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Cleveden Buffalo Company, Cleveden, Clevedon Cheapers, Cleveden Buffalo Company. You
can check them out online and they've got a list
of stockers there and yes, they're available in the South
at the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Texas is I've been eating the Cleveden mozzarella for many years.
The product is insational. And this person says, bison think
dancers with Wills, Buffalo, think crocodile day, Dundee, that's from
ann oh Ye, that's nice way to play. And Hamilton
Zoo had a herd of bison. They are huge. Can't
help but think about barbecue and how tasty they would
have been to eat them. Yeah, I mean they've been

(01:48:02):
in Hamilton Zoo. But I don't think anyone's as anyone
actually try to find farm bison in New Zealand. I
think you need I think I think you need some big,
big space. It's big wide oven Berg Sky country for bison,
don't you big cattle?

Speaker 5 (01:48:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
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Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
They'd be good afternoon. We're talking to people who farm
unusual animals. Just a quick text here, get a guys
loving the program. We run Soggy Bottom Holding Farm where
we keep mainly Tamworth and Wessex saddleback pigs which are
heritage British outdoor breeds, very very tasty pigs and lovely

(01:48:50):
to boot.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Yeah and look someone here, I was saying, are we
are we farming bison in New Zealand? In zed Bison
Limited and Canterbury are farming bison?

Speaker 26 (01:48:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Shows what I bloody?

Speaker 14 (01:49:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Doesn't it love to buy those people? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
Some great techs coming through a few more of those
very shortly, NASU, how are you hey?

Speaker 22 (01:49:13):
Tyler?

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
How are you good?

Speaker 16 (01:49:15):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
You you've got a buffalo story for us?

Speaker 22 (01:49:18):
Yes, yes I have. When I was a toddler in
Gujrat in India, my mother's uncle farm the buffaloes and
brought up an entire generation on a buffalo milk, and
we as kids benefited immensely because we used to get
a free milk every day. And interesting part of that

(01:49:42):
was that bring up the entire generation on the buffalo
milk and making churning the milk so get the butter
as well, making gie out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Oh yeah, yes.

Speaker 22 (01:49:54):
And the another interesting fact was that there is a
ritual in our Hindu culture where girls receive a gift
from the family side when somebody is born, and that
was me. So my grandfather or my mother's uncle gave

(01:50:15):
her because there wasn't much money about a milking buffalo,
and the trait with the buffalo's as Helen point out,
they are quite wild things. And when my father's resident
is only about three hundred meters away from my mother's
residents the same village, So we took the buffalo to

(01:50:36):
my father's home and the jolly thing wouldn't let it.
And we had a servant who used to regularly milk
that same buffalo at my mother's uncle's place, and we
had another servant at my father's place, but she wouldn't
let the servant milk a buffalo at my father's side

(01:50:59):
because they're just so wild. As soon as you start
milking them with hand, they just sort of kick you out,
You knock you out of circulation. Very careful. Yeah, and
so that's what happened, and so to and she stopped
giving milk. Then we had to bring the servant from

(01:51:20):
my mum's uncle's place every morning and gently sort of
tie her over. So the like four teeths on the
buffaloes they would milk two or three and the others
with one and just gently tightened like it took that
a month, the whole operation.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
That is fascinating. So if you were brought up on
buffalo milk, which is apparently very very creamy and pretty
spectacular milk, what is it like to then go to
Because for us to go to buffalo milk is interesting.
We're going, oh, we're trying something weird and different. So
what's it like to go from buffalo milk to cow milk?

Speaker 22 (01:52:02):
No comparison, no comparison. I mean, it's so rich and
the taste is quite different as well. And the other
interesting is the buffaloes don't give too much milk. Like
my mom's uncle s place, they would give probably about
three liters of milk. If you're lucky three to four liters?

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
What would they what does they compare to a cow?

Speaker 22 (01:52:28):
Just to put that in context, Well, in a good
season or in a proper season in New Zealand, a
cow could give about twenty to twenty five liters of milk, right, Okay,
it's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Yeah, wow, and the.

Speaker 22 (01:52:43):
Biggest the best quality of people from all over Gujarat
would go to. There's a place in Gujarat called Masana.
It's a village very famous for buffaloes, milking buffaloes, and
they command a premium price when you buy it from there,
and they are the best quality men. Buffalo is available there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
All right, Well, thank you so much for sharing that
with us. Now, that's really interesting, the whole buffalo thing.
That's the whole world of buffalo has opened up to me.
I'm so naive about buffalo and bison. Seems like this
bison everywhere in New Zealand. I'm looking at a bunch
of bison near Topoor.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
Yeah, some near Blenham apparently own a malutu near Blenham.
There's bison farms.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
There's bison everywhere where.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Are they hiding all these bison I've never seen a bison.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
We're overrun by bison. They're basically a piss now. They're
like the wallabies. There's bison everywhere. So boy, I'll tell
you what if you're if you're running bison, you have
to have some berg fences. Looking at this picture, certainly
do right?

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number
to call.

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Take a few more calls before we wrap this up.
It is nine to four.

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Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Dogs EDB, Good afternoon, we're talking about raising and breeding
unusual animals.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
Get a bin.

Speaker 6 (01:54:09):
Oh hi, guys, thanks for technicoll A bit nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
So anyway, back in my mid twenties, back into nineteen
ninety six, I used to raise tarantulas in California.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
And how well, first, i've how did you get into
raising tarantulas?

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
Well, well, living over there, I went to one of
the pet shops in California where you can just buy anything,
you know, when it comes to exotic pets, and so
I bought this young adult tarantula and took it back
to the shop and they found out it's a female
because it's hard to sex the spider until they get
a bit older. And then they were like, this is

(01:54:47):
a female. So I thought, oh, this is amazing and that,
and then I met another person that's in the hobby
that had a male, and then we started to pair
the spiders together.

Speaker 26 (01:54:58):
And and breed them and what so you bred them
for sale, No, I wanted to breathe them because it
was at the time it was the red knee trensula
from Exco was something that was.

Speaker 4 (01:55:15):
Quite a delicacy over there, so they were hard to find.
So when I found that out, I thought, let's try
and breed these and get that population going. And you know,
it was quite fascinating trying to get the right temperature right,
trying to feed up the female so she's nice and
plump and fat for lack of a better term, because
you know, if you've got a skinny female spider that's

(01:55:36):
ready to make she will eat the male. So that's
misconception in the wild. Yes, the females will probably eat
the male after conceptric after mating, but if you're raising
them yourself, and you get that female knife and plant
and healthy and fed, and then introduce a male, they
will get together and do that and you end up

(01:55:58):
with this whole bunch of slings. You know, we're talking,
you know, sixty seventy eighty little spider swings in.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Her web, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
And then I would just I wouldn't sell us.

Speaker 6 (01:56:09):
I would just get them back to the pittil and
they would move that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
On being fascinating. But we're out of time, so sorry,
but thanks very much.

Speaker 18 (01:56:15):
No, no, it's all good.

Speaker 5 (01:56:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
See you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
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