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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello are you great Newzealanders And welcome to Mattain Tyler
Full Show Podcast number one six nine for Friday, the
twenty fifth of July twenty twenty five. And if you
listen to the end, there is a essentially a love
letter from the people of New Zealand towards professional wrestling
on the on the back of Hulk Hogan passing away
at seventy one, people love professional wrestle, just ringing in

(00:43):
talking about their favorite wrestlers. It was such a good hour.
It's such a fantastic time. It was a lot of fun.
But the whole show was good. Was clamping.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
We had a lot of chat about clamping and people
being clammed on fairly.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Telly what and I was He had to go at
Buddy Australia and Izzie had to go a bloody Wellington
I mean, and there's a lot of love for Wellington
coming through the phone so to show I hope you
enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1 (01:10):
The big stories, the league issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Friday. Hope you're
doing well on this glorious stay hopefully for you where
if you're listening to this beautiful country of ourskday.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Man, get a Tyler, get everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
What a messive show we've got for you today, as
we always do on a Friday after three o'clock, New
Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah it will be yay. You've got any suggestions that
you thinks had an outsized effect on our great and
beautiful land over the past seven days since the text
on nine two nine two, Who should be the new
Zealander of.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
The week locking forward to that after three o'clock as well.
It is the big story of today and very sad story.
Stars from the sporting and entertainment industries are remembering Hulk
Hulk Hogan as a treasure and a trailblazer. Former w
w E chairman and CEO Vince McMahon paid tribute on
ex calling Hogan the greatest superstar of all time.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man, what was the greatest wrestling era? We want to
talk about this and what do you think of Hogan? Look,
I love wrestling and I love the whole was a
holy maniac and but do you think it's a load
of stupid fake sport and everyone that likes it is
an idiot? Or if you're me, you just think Stone Cold,
Steve Austin, how great bloody much a man? Randy Savage,

(02:28):
so many names, Yeah, the Hitman, Heart, the Undertaker.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, there's been so many text about it already as well,
So looking forward to h Triple H, Diamond, Dallas Page,
I mean, the list goes on.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
That is Nick Foley has always been my favorite men kind.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, that is going to be a great chat after
three o'clock. After two o'clock, a young Australian going home
after a year and Wellington has let loose online with
what he calls an awareness tirade about life in the capital.
He goes by the name Keshi and he attacks the cold, dark,
gloomy and depressing city as he goes back home to Queensland.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Is he wrong? Is he wrong? Wellington? How do you
thrive in a challenging climate? Because love Wellington, but that's
a challenging climate. There's no way that you can live
or visit Wellington without the climate being a huge discussion. Yeah,
what's happening down there? But do you love Wellington? A

(03:24):
lot of people live there and there are no walls
around it. So what makes people love it? What makes
people stay? Have you loved it and left? Have you
loved it and stayed? What about other challenging environments. I
get hassled a lot for my love of Dunedin City,
good place, my hometown. I landed there the other day
and it was negative four cold. I love Tope or

(03:45):
it was negative four in top or today. You love
cold places, don't you?

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I love a cold past. This the whole thing. What
do you want from an environment? This goes from Queensland. Sure,
if you want the Queensland environment, it's all laid out
for you, but doesn't have the variety of the Wellington
climate doesn't exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
That is going to be a fantastic chat after talk Clod,
But right now, let's have a chat about clamping technology,
which allows cars owned by people who are evading paying
their court fines to be clammed or caes, is now
being used on the streets. According to Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith,
so bailiffs and now trialing these hand held devices that
scan the number plates of park cars and determine whether

(04:21):
the owners have overdue court fines or reparations. Here's Paul
Goldsmith as he explained to Mike Coskien this morning how
the scanning of number plates would actually work.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Well, it's the court bailiffs who have it, and so
they'll be alongside the police at checkpoints from tonight in
some places and scanning things. And you haven't paid your fine,
you better get yourself an uber or something like that
to get home because your car can be clamped.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
What are you going to do with the cars?

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Well, ultimately they can be sold or they can be
held on to to people pay their fines.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Do you think there will be a lot of cars
actually clamped? In other words, will this be affected?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
I hope there is, because of the message needs to
get through that. You know, the rest of the country
is sick of people not paying their fines and not
dealing with the consequences of the things that they've done. Well,
there you go, and there's millions and millions are owing,
and you know, if people just don't pay the fines,
then the just the system has no teeth. Tyler, Absolutely
no teeth. But have you been wrongly clamped? Because how

(05:14):
incredibly frustrating would being wrongly clamped. I've been wrongly ticketed before,
similar technology.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yep. Just screaming around using cameras to to drift net everyone.
I'm not sure how I'm not really sure exactly how
I feel about it. I absolutely think that we should
be getting this money. These court finds back off people,
and it seems to be quite hard to do it,
and this would definitely hit people hard who aren't paying
their court court fines. But you know what else would

(05:41):
people start? If you haven't paid your taxes? Do they
start clamping? You know down there's a good point. You
know what else you haven't paid your rates? They start,
they start clamping you, you.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Know, child support clamp your house? Could could they clap
your kid?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Could they? Could they be just could this just be
that the start of wherever your car is, it's being
scanned for hundreds of different different things or do you
think it's bloody good? And you know a lot of
this this, these these court fines for victims, and those
victims are just not getting paid because the dirty criminal
that is just going to continue to just do what

(06:16):
they do, which is not follow the law.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to care. How do you feel about this technology being utilized?
Do you think it is needed or do you think
the court system exists now and baylists can still go
round and knock on the door and say it's such
and such hair because he owes a lot of money. No, well,
we're going to come back and we're going to take
the furniture anyway, and maybe the car if we can
find it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
And I bet there's a lot of people out there
listening who have been wrongly clamped. Yeah. Yeah. And also
does it just lead you know, when they say there's
a lot of graffiti in a neighborhood, or there's a
car that's been stolen and it's got the you know,
it's got the right up on it, the stick it's
been sticked right. Yeah, it just leads to sort of

(06:57):
a vibe of urban decay. So if we've got a
bunch of people that don't want to play court fines
just having their cars clamped and they're just sitting on
the side of the road, I mean, is that is
that great? I could see that epening is that great
for society. Yeah, a bunch of creepy cars just clamped
on the side of the road. Oh wait, one hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Love to
hear your thoughts about this technology being utilized. Are you

(07:20):
a fan or have you been wrongly clamped in the past.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Get on the phones. One hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Twelve past one.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 7 (07:32):
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Speaker 3 (07:35):
It'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about
the new technology being utilized by bailiffs. It's why they
say they're trialing these handheld devices, but it has been
rolled out around the country from tonight. According to Justice
Minister Paul Goldsmith, what these handheld devices will do will
scan cars as they go through a checkpoint or if
they parked on the side of the road, and if
they owe money to the courts or reparations, then they

(07:57):
will be clamped.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Wow. So what's next? Getting your car clamped because you
haven't paid your fishing license. That's a big one. You're
both clamped. Please stop saying bloody, says Sam. Why, I
don't know. He just says, please stop saying bloody. Well,
he did say please, he did. I like that. I
like madam, but it isn't all catlocks, okay, yeah and

(08:21):
and yeah. So technically he yelled it via text, but
he did say he was polite though he has shot
himself on the foot though, because by texting and police
stop saying bloody, I've now said bloody. Probably this is
probably the seventh time when I say bloody again. There
was it a curse when you said bloody?

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Though?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Or is it just by my lady? Is what bloody
stands for?

Speaker 8 (08:40):
Did you know?

Speaker 9 (08:40):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Bertie? What do you think
about this clamping business.

Speaker 10 (08:47):
Name boys? Well, I was going to ring mister Hoskins
about this or text him this morning, because if you
have thought, you've got to be careful if you buy
a calf in somebody privately, and if I've got hits
of fines on it, and if you don't check get
they're not going to be clear.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Bang on. Yeah, So I've had this situation myself. Bertie
where I bought a car off a friend and he
had reported it stolen, but it hadn't been stolen. He
just just doing some work and he parked at a
strange place but he never got back to them say
that that that it hadn't been stolen, and then he
sold it to me. And then I was at a
I was at a checkpoint and they and I was

(09:30):
completely sober, obviously, but they were like, this is a
stolen car, and I was like, it's not a sole
car and there was no way to prove that I
hadn't stolen the car.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh no, so sorry, Berty, But yeah, what happened at
that point, Matt?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Did they take you to pull over? I was there
for ages and I was trying to get my mate
Duncan on the phone. I shouldn't use his name, Duncan.
If you're listening, sorry, I've already said it now, there's
no way out twice Duncan Coles. But anyway, bloody, bloody
Duncan hadn't hadn't rung the police back and said that
it wasn't stolen, because I think he was a bit embarrassed.

(10:04):
But yeah, So then then I was over on the
side of the road standing there, everyone that was going
past the I was a drunk driver and and then
I couldn't get old of Duncan and it was a
whole absolute larva. It took so long for me to
get out of there. So these kind of mistakes happened, Bertie, Yeah,
and I had.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
The same thing you just reminded me because a friend
of mine, he reported his car stolen because it was stolen,
but I got it back from him. And in the meantime,
I was using it and I went to fill out
with petrol and the and the guy wouldn't let me
follow that with petrol, and I reckoned that he knew

(10:41):
somehow that it was a registration was a stolen vehicle,
but it was whipping ours and it wasn't actually I
But he did report it stolen, but I got it
back for him. I won't go into that, but anyway,
I got his car.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Back for him.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
It was something funny at the petrol station, and they
wouldn't let me that.

Speaker 11 (11:05):
It was really really weird.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
So that did they talk to you and say they
did they give you any reason why they wouldn't need
for it up. They just they just said.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
No, no, no, that's right. And I was thinking that
just adding one and one together, that it was about because
he would have reported it stolen. And maybe that's why
the suvice stations might know. I don't know, but my
fist point is people do honestly, they have like a

(11:33):
marketplace and stuff like that. You know, there might be
a thousand dollars five, you know, find out standing or
something and if you don't.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Know, yeah, you're going to approve that. Yeah, absolutely, think
if you're call Bertie.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean I'm a bit naive.
But can you find out what's going on a car
for free or do you have to pay a bit
of money for that when you buy a sicking in car?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well, they're not going to clamp you for money owing
on the car, but they might clamp you if the
x owner of the car has finds owing.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, and I don't think that's easy to find out
because this whole bunch of privacy rules associated with that.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
But as long as you change the ownership.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, Linda, your thoughts on this, I'm just gonna get
my head rond that if you've changed the ownership, then
then the then the license plate is a log lock
locked on you. Yeah. I think you're right there, Linda.

Speaker 11 (12:22):
Hi, how you.

Speaker 12 (12:23):
Going, guys? There's something really simple you can do. You
just go to car jam online and you pay twenty
dollars and it covers all of the car's history, absolutely everything. Money.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh, are you're right? Oh, Linda, Linda sounded like you
got eaten by a robot. Y, Linda, are you okay?
You've been attacked by pac man, Poor old Linda. We'll
get back, try and get back to Linda. Yeah, okay,
I'm just on car jam now. A friend of mine. Wow,
I've been to card jam before because because it's my
server already had a number saved in there. That's interesting.

(13:06):
But wow, it's aen' actually been quite an interesting TV show,
wouldn't it. Card Jam. We're not just the history of cars.
You find a car and you go through the history
of the car, and you look back and on all
the different owners and follow their lives.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I'd love to hear about the most fascinating card jam discoveries.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Oh my god, Christopher Luxan used to own my car. No, no,
I'm lying, You've never earned that, Okay, David, your thoughts
on this.

Speaker 13 (13:32):
Oh.

Speaker 14 (13:32):
Yeah, some years ago, I had a Valiant AF and
it was my own personal car and it was parked
in the car port on my property. And what happened
is they came up claim my car and I said

(13:56):
to them, this is not my this is my car.
And they said, oh, yeah, but your son's got outstanding
parking and speeding tickets. And I said, yes, but that's
nothing to do with me.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's not your How old was your son at the time.
Old was your son at the time, David?

Speaker 14 (14:16):
He was a teenager, right, but he.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Hadn't got the parking fines driving your car.

Speaker 14 (14:23):
No, that's no, Y had his own car.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Right, So the packing all the parking fines were on
the own car. Because I've come up and see your
son has that, that seems like a massive overreach. How
long ago was this, David, Oh.

Speaker 14 (14:36):
Probably about ten years ago now. But at the time,
I've thought about it for some time and I thought
what I should have done was chop it off, and
then I argue about the fines later on.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, I mean, what the situation if they if they
erroneously clamp you, then it's well within your rights to
chop it off.

Speaker 14 (14:58):
Oh yes, I was at the time. I also thought, well,
I've got a straight and most sonault. If he's got fines,
he's got to pay them.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (15:07):
And he did, Yes, he had to because.

Speaker 14 (15:12):
Then I unclamped it.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean that seems like an odd situation, David,
but I'm glad you sort of that out.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Thanks very much for giving us a buzz. Can I
just say though, that the Valiant VF is the pace
that that's my favorite shape for a Valiant. That's just
such a cool looking car. Oh what I love that,
so the square, the lines on it. It's just such
a cool looking car.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
You've got good taste, David, and the v like, hey,
you're a good man. Yeah, I love it, David. Thank
you very much. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number of cool if you've been wrongly clamped, love
to hear from you. And how do you feel about
this new technology that the bailiffs will carry to determine
whether your car or you, oh, court fines and if
you do, you're going to be clamped to.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
What on a topic? We're getting to after three o'clock.
So many people coming at me for not mentioning the
ultimate Warrior. When I was listening the greatest wrestlers of
all time? How can I miss that? Das has camera
work an absolute insanity. That's going to be a great
jed after three o'clock.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call clamping for Owen Court fines? What do
you say? It is twenty four past one?

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Speaker 3 (18:10):
And we aren't talking about new technology that will clamp
people who owe court fine. So bailiffs are going to
have these handout devices at checkpoints and monitoring parked cars.
How do you feel about that? Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and have you been wrongly clamped? Love
to hear from you the text numbers nine two nine two.
By the way, Matton.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Tyler, bring on clamping, regio plate scanning. Pay your debts
and you have nothing to worry about. Too many dead
beats who think they can flip the bird and not pay.
We could do with the millions they owe. Thanks from that, Craig. Yeah,
fair text that one, Linda, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
Yes.

Speaker 16 (18:42):
I think what they'll get a lot of is the
boy racist types who have lots of fines for licensed
breaches that they just never pay, and they get them
over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes, so is this covering that as well?

Speaker 9 (18:58):
Though?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
So right now I understand I'm not. What we're talking
about here is court fines. So if they've got court fines,
it'll get them, which is reasonable chance that if they're
committing crimes that they get court finds.

Speaker 16 (19:11):
Yeah, because I remember, I just remember we used to
have a police scanner packed a few years ago, and
they did this in the past. The bailiffs were at
the police checkpoints, right, and that was who they were targeting,
was these guys with fines. And it was amazing the
thousands of dollars that would turn up, you know, parents
turning up to pay fines and things like that. But yeah,

(19:37):
finds for licensed preachers and over and over and over.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, so you've got this situation. It's the same with
parking now where you have the parking camera cars just
zipping around pinging people like dryfnetic people. So if you're
going after the court fines and there is court fines
that owed by someone registered to a car parked on
the side of the road, then the chances of you
getting pinged are sew so much more than the bailiff

(20:03):
just having to be there at a checkpoint.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, I'm going to get slammed for this, and that's okay.
But I'm just thinking, so she mean the boy racers
and young men, and I would assume thered be a
yet a lot of young men out there They've probably
got a job and they do okay at life, but
they might owe a bit of money to the court system.
So then they get clamped under this situation. What happens
in that family scenario there, so that's a massive pain
in the butt for the parents because their son primarily

(20:27):
or sometimes Dora, has now lost their car, their ability
to get to work, their ability to carry on because
they owe a bit of money to the court. I mean,
does that is that a punishment that fits the crime?
In that scenario, You're going to get body slammed for this.
Come at me, Come at me, just.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, going back to the wrestling Motifa earlier, this
person would disagree with you. Hey, Matt and Tyler, I'm
all for the clamping. We've gone so soft, like Tyler
on the rules and regulations that we need a change
of mindset. People like Tyler often mentioned Singapore amazed at
how clean and tidy. I put that in there. They're
not mentioning you, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm just saying, just think of the children. Think of
the children.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
People often mentioned Singapore amazed at how clean and tidy
the place is. That's because you almost get thrown in
jail for dropping your bubblegumper. We need to toughen up.
And why have a law if you don't enforce it? Matt,
I mean that that's a good point. So why have
court fines if you're going to have a sort of
if there's a court fine, then what use is it

(21:26):
if it's not easily enforced? Right, I've set up for
this because the more that I think about it, the
more I've seen you've have set up straight and yourself.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Set up straight for this because the bailiff system already
exists that they can go and knock on the door
and track these people down and hopefully take their car
or take their furniture. And the very fact that they'll
clamp people on the street or I mean, yes, it's
going to send the message, but is that a punishment
that fits the crime for a lot of people out
there that if you just get them to court or
get to the point where you've got the bailiff knocking

(21:54):
on the door, that sends a very clear message that
if you don't sort your stuff out, then we're going
to take it further and.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Costs to have bailiffs out there knocking on all these
doors in the time when you can just have a
car that's zooming around at fifty kilometers now, or thanks
to the ridiculus Council, we've got an Auckland screaming around
at thirty kilometers now, paying people on the roads. Yeah,
I look, and then they just make momb Then they

(22:20):
just make the call and the clamp turns up.

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What do you say, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number of call we got headlines with railing
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Then more of your calls.

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Speaker 3 (23:50):
Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about the
new technology that will clamp cars who oh or their
owners o court fines at whether the parked on the
street or at checkpoints. How do you feel about that?
At one hundred and eighteen.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Eighty, Why is everybody falling for this heavy stuff by government?
If other side had did it half this stuff, you
would okay, I'm going to have to paraphrase this if
the other half, if the other side had did half
this stuff, you would be calling it granny state. No
one calls anything granny state. One more thing kept to

(24:23):
one more and I can't believe how you all are
sucking up.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Okay, it's hard to fu gins early in the day.
You figure that one out.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, but no. But so they're saying, if basically what
she's saying, if Labor and the Greens were still in
power they were for six years and they were doing this,
she is suggesting that we'd be calling it granny state,
probably more likely nanny state. But historically speaking, Labor and
the Greens aren't as hard on crime as New Zealand

(24:56):
First National and Act, so it's not really their mo
o not to do this kind of thing. I wouldn't
think so, I don't think it's I don't think you're
right there. I don't think you're right. But we love
your opinion. Thank you so much for it, LEVI welcome
to the show. Yeah here you got Yeah, good mate.
What's your take on it?

Speaker 11 (25:14):
I kind of want to.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Give a quick call.

Speaker 18 (25:16):
It's kind of covering that I work in the kind
of car dealership scene. I've been in the industry for
about four or five years now, and to be honest,
there's quite a few issues for people who are buying
privately with our system of change of ownership I mean
finance being one of them. You know, you don't get
any warnings prior to buying a car that'll let you know, hey, listen,

(25:37):
there's there's a security on this vehicle, there's money owing
on it, or as you say, like tickets.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
And things like that.

Speaker 18 (25:42):
But another one that we've actually been dealing with recently
that's quite a big issue is you can walk up
to any vehicle, grab that number plate and stick it
into the change of ownership system and now, according to
nz inta system, you actually own that vehicle. So you
don't need to be talking to this person, making any
payments or anything like that, and you technically become an
owner of that vehicle even though you've done nothing. And

(26:04):
this is kind of a big part of the issue
that we deal with is the New Zealand change of
ownership system just really isn't up to spec.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
So to get round say court fines, for example, would
it be very easy for someone just to change the
ownership of the car to I don't know, their partner
or their brother or cousin or something.

Speaker 11 (26:24):
Yeah, so you could.

Speaker 18 (26:25):
Kind of just change it to anybody's name that that
person they're not going.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
To I see what you're saying, so, just some stranger
I could just change without telling Tyler. I could change
the ownership to Tyler. Next thing, you know, yeah, what
that happened?

Speaker 18 (26:39):
Yes, that that or Tyler, for instance, could say Tyler
walked down the street and when I that that car
looks quite good, I'll put that in my name. Not
that he's obviously going to be able to drive the
car anything, but he could stick that rigeau plate into
the change of ownership system and then, according to ndtiates
their car. So I dealt with this recently with a
traveler from Europe who was down in the South Island
do some travel and a van, and she went to

(27:01):
come sell her car to us, and I just said, hey, listen,
I can actually see on our side that you actually
don't own the car.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
It's not in your name.

Speaker 18 (27:06):
She said, well, that's weird, because you know, I bore
car and I could see that she had at one point,
you know, the vehicle was in her name, but someone
had obviously walked on the street and just grabbed the
regiroplate stuck in the system, and then she had to
go through this whole kind of process of calling in
ZTA and getting them to prove that she's actually the
owner of the car to put it back into her name.

(27:29):
And it's not obviously a hugely common issue, but it's
definitely something that we deal with in the dealership side
of things. But especially with what you're talking about with
court fines and financing, I definitely think they need to
update it so that if you are buying privately, there's
at least a warning that pops up before you buy
the car. Do in the paperwork that says, hey, listen,
there is financing, because there just isn't you know, if

(27:50):
you're buying a car privately, you won't get those warnings. Obviously,
with buying from a dealership, you don't have any of
those issues because we do all the checks and obviously
all that. But as a private buyer, there is a
lot of risk going into that because there is just
no way for you to prove without, as that person said,
previously paying twenty dollars and getting a car jam. There
really is no free way to actually just check that

(28:11):
in the system.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's interesting that that is so easy to do when
everything else is so incredibly complex. Just speaking from my
own perspective, when I had to recently get a parking
permit to park on the street in front of my
house so it didn't get towed when there were events
in the area. I basically had to strip naked, set
myself on fire, and climb to the top of the
tree and scream for three days to get it done.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
And yet, yeah, I can imagine that, And yet.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
This thing which seems so much more important than just
parking in front of your own house that your own
is so easy to do.

Speaker 18 (28:43):
Yeah, it's definitely a big issue. I think our kind
of change of ownership system is very, very outdated, and
it really does need an update because it is just
yet one of those big issues that you deal with
private buyers. And obviously a lot of people don't have
the luxury of going to dealerships or they prefer to
buy privately sometimes and when you're going through that, you

(29:05):
definitely take on that risk of not knowing the on
a previous history of the vehicle. I mean, another big
one that we deal with it dealerships that I've met
many people who were never told because they bought the
car privately, is that it's very common for cars from
Australia to come into this country written off and they'll
get reregistered, but there'll be no tag that says, hey,
listen and this was a written off vehicle previously, and

(29:28):
someone will buy it with absolutely zero knowledge of that
happening previously. And I think that a big part of
that is just how outdated our system is. I definitely
think there needs to be some sort of change that
just allows a little bit more security for you know,
people who are buying vehicles privately, to not have to
worry so much and take on so much risk when
just you know, simply buying a car.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But do you have to have someone saying here, you
have to have the current owners driver's license number to
be able to change the vehicle ownership? Is that great?

Speaker 4 (29:57):
No?

Speaker 7 (29:57):
So yes?

Speaker 18 (29:58):
In person. So there's there's a written format a dealership
if you were to go buy a car, If if
you've bought the car dealership, you'll fill out a form
and you'll have to have a driver's license start. If
you're doing it privately, you'll basically type into your phone,
I've sold a car, and you know, if you're the owner,
you'll fill out the performances that you were the owner
and you're selling it, and if you're buying it, you'll
fill out the site that says that you're buying it online,

(30:18):
but you can actually just do that I'm buying it
part and the owner doesn't even have to fill out
that I've sold it part. And in NZTA system you
are technically the owner. Now when it comes when you
kind of bury it down to everything, you still are
the official owner. But when it comes up into MCTA system, right,
the name of the current owner whoever just filled out
that form will be at.

Speaker 19 (30:39):
The top of that list.

Speaker 20 (30:40):
That is.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then and then yeah, when the whole clamping things
comes into it, that could be interesting. Thank you so
much for your call, Leve. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty Z number to
call the.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks
that'd be.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Quarter to two having a great discussion about this new
clamping technology.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So what it means is the bailiffs.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I've got the hand how little devices and if you
owe court fines and you go through a checkpoint or
they spot your car parked on the streets, they will
clamp you.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, I imagine it would work like this. You'd have
one of those cars that drives around at paced scanning everyone.
Then they contact a bailiff to do the final check
to make sure that there's something wrong, and then someone
comes around and clamps you. Right, Yeah, so they could
drift need a whole lot of people. The clamping of
the cars won't work, Scissus text to people will just
change the name of the car it's regis to therefore
won't be able to be clamped. They're not the official owner.

(31:32):
They could change it to wife, girlfriend, mum, or dad.
As we said before, until we follow through with punishments
for crimes, siss text and stop making excuses for those
who break the law. We're putting out the message that
it's okay, and I tend to agree with that, because
there might be the odd problem with the situation, right,
and they might they're the odd clamping that's incorrect or such,

(31:52):
and there might be people that are trying to get
around the system. But if it's another way to get
people to pay their court fines, many of what you're
supposed to go to victims, then surely we can beat
out the system and make it work. What do you reckon.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of call Andrew welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Hey, guys, how's it going excellent?

Speaker 19 (32:14):
Hey, Similar to the last caller, I'm in the vehicle
data industry here and a couple of points. It's it's
not quite as simple to change ownership like he was saying.
So with m d t A, it does require two parts.
The buyer fills in a form to say that they've
bought the vehicle, but also the seller has to fill
in a form with their driver license details that says
they've sold it. And it's only when those two things

(32:34):
marry up that that ownership record officially changes with nd
T A. And so if only one half of that
is done by someone looking to do it for the
wrong reasons, it would sort of been an unconfirmed state
for a while there until the until the second part.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Doesn't, But it would it still be in some form
on the on the records.

Speaker 19 (32:53):
Yeah, I'm sure at m DTAs in they can probably
see both details the current unconfirmed owner and the and
the previous owner. It's also not this is in down
to the details, but it's not considered an owner as
far as nj TA is concerned. So the n c
t A don't manage a ownership record of vehicles. It's
they call it the registered person. It's basically the address
that that vehicle is registered to and the person responsible

(33:15):
for it. That that you know, registration and WAFT and
all that stuff is dealt to. But it's not it's
not a record of ownership as such. And I think
and also when it comes to the finds, they will
be issued to the person via the courts. And while
they might have the ability to look up what car
that person has registered to their name, if you sold
that car normally and change of ownership was done properly,

(33:39):
I don't think any of the fines would be attached
to that car. They're attached to that person when they
go through the court system.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right, But so just get straight. But they'll be attached
to that person and that person if they're attached to
a number plate, then that car is up to be
clamped by for the court for the court finds. If
you see what I'm.

Speaker 19 (33:59):
Saying, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But if you're looking about the
risk of getting wrongly clammed, right, if you've bought a
car privately, legitimately and done the change of ownership, you know,
as normal. I doubt you'd be wrongly clammed because they're
going to look up that number plate and go, it's
not associated with the guy that we're interested anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Right, Yeah, But I guess quite an easy way to
get around the situation is if you knew that you
had court fines and you want to drive around in
your car, then you would just simply find someone in
your family, like your sister or something, and say, is
this cool if we change ownership of my car into
your name so I can keep driving around without getting
it clamp. That seems like a pretty simple workaround you

(34:38):
if you knew someone, if you've got a buddy or
a family member that's willing to.

Speaker 19 (34:41):
Do it, Yeah, and providing you've got those parties willing
to fill in their forms with their driver licenses, that
would work. So you have to use someone that you
know rather than a stranger.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
And someone's already got court fines, and then you probably
wouldn't want to get involved, but you know people do exactly. Yeah,
well you did.

Speaker 19 (34:58):
You used to be a fee to do that change
of ownership, which might have deterred they're not paying court
finds they're probably not paying a fee to change ownership either,
but it's free now when changed a bunch of fees
are this sort.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Of thing, So yeah, could it not work the other way?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Andrew that someone who owns a lot of court finds
they buy a car on the secondhand market and they
buy from someone who is a legitimate member of society,
and then that person who buys the card doesn't change
the ownership because they know that they owe court finds.
Is that a scenario that could play.

Speaker 19 (35:25):
Out, Yeah, potentially, But in that case, the legitimate person
that you know, because the change of ownership requires two
parts to be completed, one from the buyer and one
from the seller. If there's a legitimate party involved on
either side, they're going to complete their part, which, as
far as DTA is concerned, will put it in sort
of an unconfirmed state. And so I imagine you think

(35:48):
if the bailiffs are with the police at a checkpoint,
the police have access to look up all of those
records and stuff, and so yeah, yeah, I guess there's
always a way to exploit it, but you've got to
try something.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, And so having bailiffs at police roadblocks, is that
a good idea.

Speaker 19 (36:05):
Yeah, I think similar to what Matt was just saying.
It might not work hundred percent at the time. But
if if you're knocking on addresses that you've got for
people and they're not there because they've given a bogus
address or they've moved in with a mate or whatever
to get around it, and you can't track them down,
but you see their car packed up then and they've
got something out saying, and then why not you can't
get the money.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Out of them?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, but I mean I imagine just firing a car
around with cameras at high speed, just pinging everyone and
then contacting the bailiff at that point would catch more people.

Speaker 19 (36:34):
You know, was good enough for good enough for parking fines,
then good enough for court fines.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Right, yea, yeah, very true. That would be the thinking.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is nine to two.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Matdis Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh eight hundred
and eighty Tight, it's.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
News dogsb news Dogs theb It is six minutes too too.
When we are talking about this new clamping technology that
is coming.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Into into play.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
If you owe court fines and you will stop by police,
then you highly likely will get clamps.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
So how do you feel about that?

Speaker 13 (37:09):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty Yeah, And the wide
a thing of cameras, right, isn't it? Isn't that where
it really sits with them zooming around and pinging you
and sending in the BA bailiffs. Okay, Wayne, welcome the
show over there.

Speaker 21 (37:23):
Ye mate, there half an hour and I was driving
along and I heard you talking about cries and a
HEMI piser Oh yes, Well, in nineteen sixty seven I
owned one of those. It was my pride and joy. Yeah,
I had the opportunity by business for eight thousand dollars,
so I sold the business. I sold the car for
eight thousand dollars the business and it made billions.

Speaker 13 (37:48):
Over the years.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh, hanging right, the business did the business?

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Did say?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
This is going to use I love the story because
I thought you're going to say it around the other way.
You're going to say, if I held on the business,
we know, and if I held onto the car, imagine
how much it would be worth now. But this is
a better story.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
There's nothing compared with what that business.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Means, oh how good? Was it hard to let the
Valiant go?

Speaker 20 (38:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (38:08):
Broke my heart. One of the few times I've cried.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah once you major millions? Though, Wayne, did you try
and track down another?

Speaker 8 (38:15):
No?

Speaker 21 (38:16):
I now driving this and Mardo.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's life for you. But you know, do you agree
with me that the Valiant VF Pacer was the most
beautiful shaped car?

Speaker 13 (38:27):
Just really it really was.

Speaker 21 (38:29):
There was a fantastic machine, tons of power, tons of size,
and it was very impressive.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's frustrating now every car basically looks the same, from
a BMW right through to you know, a Toyota. Yeah,
you know, they basically look the same. But back then
you'd have a car like that, the Valiant vs would
come out and it's just so uniquely of its time.
What it is. It's cars on the road used to
be so different. Now they're all basically the same.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, it's a beautiful looking car.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
I just tell you you're a good man.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I appreciate for doing that and and look good on you.
I'm so proud that it all went well for you. You
sound like a great New Zealander. Thanks, Wayne.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Right there is where we'll leave it, I think. But
great discussion, and I think Matt, most people are pretty
behind this idea of clamping those who own court fines.
Not too many people saying that it's going to go
all wrong. So that's I suppose good news for Minister
Paul Goldsmith and also the bailiffs.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, although this Texas is careful. Facial recognition will get
you arrested for not paying tax before you know it.
And that's what I said at the start, that us
go exactly right.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Coming up after two o'clock, a young Australian is going
home after a year in Wellington. He's let loose online,
calling it an awareness high rate about the capital. He
calls it cold, dark, gloomy and depressing, ungrateful little turn Yeah,
oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call if you've in Wellington, come and defend it.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
News is coming up.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams
Afternoons News Talk ZIVY.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. Great
to have your company. As always, this this is going
to be a very very good discussion. I'm sure he's
a discussion for a lot of people as well a
young Australian he is going home after a year in
Wellington and he's let absolutely loose online with what he
called an awareness tirade about life in the capital. His

(40:23):
name is Cashi, He's from Queensland and he's decided he's
had enough of Wellington because I quote, cold, dark, gloomy
and depressing is what he called the city of Wellington.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Do we want to listen to his rant? It's a
long rant, but I think it will have you cut
it down for me, like anyone cut it down for me.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
No one's cut it down for you. But I think
if we listen to his whole rant, it's going to
upset a few people.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Right, And there's nothing wrong with upsetting a few people.
People need to hear what this young Australian thinks of Wellington.
Let's play the rant. Okay, you want to play it now?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, let's plant now. So this is Cashy and this
is his rant that is going viral, not just in
New Zealand but around the world and in Australia.

Speaker 22 (41:02):
I will be moving from New Zealand in about three weeks.
I can't do it anymore. I can't I can't stay
here any longer.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 22 (41:10):
I moved here just over a year ago to move
in with my girlfriend who was born here. She's from here,
and we've decided recently that we genuinely cannot take it
anymore and we're moving back to Australia, to Melbourne. I've
met some very lovely people when I've been here, some
truly awesome people. I've seen some really great things, some
very beautiful sights. I've ate great food, I've been some

(41:31):
beautiful places. I've done some traveling. I have genuinely enjoyed
a large part of my time living here, but that
does not make up for the fact that since I
have moved here, my mental health has taken a significant hit.
My drive for my career has taken a significant hit,
my drive with my dieting has taken a significant hit,

(41:52):
and my drive with my training has taken a significant hit.
I'm sick frequently, despite all of my RDI, vitamins and
minerals all being up to like perfect, awesome, in good shape.
I'm fit, I'm healthy, I'm active even when i'm off die.
I'm eating well, I'm hitting all of my macros, I'm
not overeating, and I still managed to find myself constantly

(42:14):
sick here. It is cold, it is dark, it is
a gloomy, it is depressing. It is raining almost all
the time. You get a couple of good days here
and there in summer is nice, And I think that
reflects really hard on a lot of the people that
live here. I have never met in my life my
short time here, people more unmotivated and depressed and bummy

(42:42):
and doing it rough than I have since I've moved here.
And I think it almost creates this net. This country
definitely does have some tall poppy issues, but I think
those tall poppy issues come from a point of jealousy.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Wow what a what an absolute rant?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, so shot for it? How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
So cold, dark, gloomy and depressing Wellington? I mean there's
a lot of tis coming through already, Go home, you
beep Australia as where you belong, you absolute winda. I
mean there was a lot of wining going on in
their particular rants. But what do you say to that,
young man? Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Well, look.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
See Wellington, right, love Wellington, absolutely love Wellington, but you
have to admit that it is a challenging climate. In Wellington.
It must be one of the most windy cities in
the entire world. Absolutely. In fact, I've seen a stat
where it is the windy city in the entire world.
Someone might say it's wrong there, maybe there's one that's
slightly windier, but it is so windy. It's windier than

(43:42):
the Windy City Chicago. Although fun fact, Chicago is not
called the windy city because it's windy. It's called the
windy city because the politicians there made so much noise
that they decided to call it the windy city. That's
a great I'm off topic here. Yeah, it's a challenging environment.
But do you still love Wellington? Do you thrive there?

(44:02):
There's been incredible things that have come out of Wellington.
Sir Peter Jackson, one of our most successful human being
has come out of Wellington. An incredible amount of fantastic
music has come out of there. Fat Freddy's Drop Yep
Shee Hard, the Flight of the Concords. There's this incredible
stuff that has come out of Wellington. And look, there
are no walls around Wellington, but there's still a lot

(44:23):
of people that live there. You know that people people
stay and they love it. And the people that love
Wellington will absolutely swear by Wellington. And they'll tell you
that Auckland is terrible, and they'll tell you that Christ
just terrible, and they'll tell you that the Bay of
Plenty is horrible. At Wellington is where you've got to live.
But it's not the only challenging environment in New Zealand.

(44:44):
I mean my beloved hometown of Dunedin. I was landing
in there the other day and the pilot said it's
a frosty negative four out there. Yeah, you do ice
well and Dunedin, that's sure. Yeah, a lot of people
hassle me for my love of Dunedin, but whether it's
bad weather. But he's also saying things about New Zealand
is in general, and that he believes is a negative

(45:04):
attitude dude here, and that people are unmotivated here compared
to where he's from from in Kingsland. Yeah, Kingsland. I'm
from Kingsland. He's from Queensland. Yeah. I live in Kingsland.
He lives in Queensland.

Speaker 13 (45:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I mean, now it's some big shots that he's fired
across the bow to us here in New Zealand. And
you and Wellington if you lived there. But if you've
ever lived in Wellington, and I think on the unmotivated aspect,
I can have some sympathy for how he might perceive
some Kiwi's been unmotivated or in a bit of a
stupor at the moment. Because we've talked about this on

(45:39):
the show, that wingy element, and that was a massive
wind from that that Aussie I've got to say, Oh.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
You've got to say a malaise has fallen over this country. Yeah,
I think everyone can feel it. And so this is
just a young fellow that's come over from Queensland. He
hasn't seen Wellington when it was absolutely going off in
the huge hub of creativity. The nightlife there was fantastic,
and it felt like Wellington was just this quadron of culture.

Speaker 9 (46:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
That seems to have slid a little bit in Wellington,
but it also seems to have slid a little bit
across our whole country. Because I don't know what do
you reckon, who's more ambitious, who's more wingy? Is it
Australians or New Zealanders?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that i'mber to call
up to hear your thoughts on this, and how do
you dare with a challenging climate like Wellington. If you're
a massive fan of Wellington, right will die for Wellington?
Really get to hear from you on oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
And do you get us? Do you get sick a
lot in the Capitol? This guy reckons he's sick the
whole time there and everyone else's as well. It's a
more sun it. It's thirteen past two, oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Very good afternoon, sixteen past two. So this young Australian
has upset a lot of people and most of the
nation actually with his tirade against Wellington. He said in
a viral TikTok video that it was called dark, gloomy, depressing.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yep, everyone sick all the time, there's tool poppy syndrome. No,
it is motivated and he can't wait to get home.
Well mussay is, don't let the door hit your ass
on the way out, you dick head. You're a bloody convict.
Get in their muzz. All right, Jack, welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
After that?

Speaker 7 (47:23):
How are you doing very good?

Speaker 2 (47:25):
So you're not a fan of Wellington.

Speaker 11 (47:27):
I've lived here for twenty four years of my life,
from childhood up until adult in Wellington.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
In Wellington, yep.

Speaker 11 (47:34):
I loved it at first about eighteen nineteen. Loved that
it was beautiful and over night life was great. Everything
was just blooming at the time. And since then I
last when I said nineteen a week so it's Queensland
out of all places. Two years and that's a hell
hole in itself. Horrible hot humors, weather, you know, thirty

(47:58):
five degrees, eighty pretcubity, just horrible. Wasn't a dance. I
came back to Wellington. I hate to say it, but
Wellington is better than Queensland.

Speaker 23 (48:07):
And but.

Speaker 11 (48:10):
Honestly I can see what he means by people don't
have the motivation of Wellington. But it is a depressing place.
There's no enough to god housing or housings, and the
parade a straight lines of homeless, which also speaks a
homeless problem as Wellington. It's it's not queterable to walk

(48:31):
around at night anymore or go places anymore in the city.
Then hand or so many of your floutless for fights.
Just that's even a nightlight Friday saiday night. It's not
what it used to see. Towns fairly busly.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah and but okay, so what keeps you there? You've
said that, you've said it's better than Queensland, But can
you can you give us something good about Wellington because
you've decided to stay there, don't you look?

Speaker 11 (48:58):
I'm in the Hat Valley. It's a beautiful place in
the Hat Valley itself. You know, there's plenty of beaches
you have really access there, plenty of places to go
in the area. Also be only from your kids for
here as family. If I didn't have my family here,
I'd probably be somewhere down south. But yeah, like Wellington
does have its perks, but it's not my favorite place.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
So what leads to the great people that have achieved
so much? Some of our most talented people, you know,
call Wellington home or or have cut their teeth in
whatever career they're going to follow to the to the
heights in Wellington. I'm thinking of Peter Jackson, tyger YTD,
Fran Walsh. Of course, Fran Walsh is married to Peter Jackson.
Brett McKenzie, you know, Sir Richard Taylor. There's there's a

(49:44):
lot of people that have absolutely excelled out of Wellington.
Fat Frudi's drop fantastic band.

Speaker 11 (49:52):
My question to that is they they's part of the
older generation. They're not. They weren't brought up later generation.
It was probably when Welling Coup was a great place,
when it was beautiful, when there was no bus and
cycle lanes everywhere.

Speaker 18 (50:08):
You know, they probably just had the right place to
grow up at the right time. And now it's just yeahs.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Do you think intense Do you think intense places sometimes
create brilliant people? And if you've got it all nice
and you're at the beach and you're a home and
a home and away type life, that you may not
come up with these people that do do incredible things.
I'm thinking about you know, Ozzy Osborne this week passed away,
but he grew up and Birmingham, right, and so that
is an intense industrial town named Tony Iomi. The guitarist

(50:41):
from Black Sabbath lost a finger in a factory, so
he's only you know that all those riffs are played
with two fingers. You know, there's there's something about the
intensity and the and the almost gothic nature of Wellington
and the fact that you're running between places, every umbrellas
inside out. That that that, you know, inspires people to
do great things, or at least different things.

Speaker 11 (51:05):
A sense that old say it does. But a lot
of people don't think to make most of them. That's
the other thing. And I'm one of those. I'm shaft
with it. You know, you look at it for how
it is, it as a bad site. You don't want
to make the most of it. You don't want to
st progress because it's not a nice place in your opinion.

(51:27):
But you know, if you have the drive, if you
have the family and all the support and friends and
everything behind you, easy easy.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Well okay, so what do you are you are you
feeling all ged up and ready to do something amazing
with your life in Wellington?

Speaker 24 (51:44):
Jack, I'm getting there, you know.

Speaker 11 (51:51):
You know sometimes greatness pattens when you least expect it.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
There's something cool that it's the capital of the country,
and you know that that the you know the ramifications
of power and and you know the ruminations. I'm sorrying
that there's a word I'm missing. Someone will help me
on nineteen nine two, that there's something of power that
people say that power. Yeah, you know that there's something
about that that I find because I was thinking the
other dy. I've never been into Parliament. I've never stood there.

(52:17):
What do they call it the bridge? I'd love to
go in there and see that. And you know, have
the is the Polish pion politicians out and about drinking
in the town and making big decisions that will affect
down the whole nation?

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Does that?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Does that excite you at all?

Speaker 7 (52:30):
Jack?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
It does it? Does you know?

Speaker 11 (52:35):
I've seen plenty of politicians. I used to work security
at a buzz and I've seen plenty of politicians out
drinking and out socializing when they're drinking, and not the
nicest of people I've met. But you know, when they're
out socializing, walking around with like the what's they call
them city safe? I think it is from the council
who walk around and just sort of keep the streets

(52:58):
safe per se. When they're walking, they're friendliest of people.
They're great, they're seeing what people's opinions are around the place.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
You know.

Speaker 19 (53:05):
But yeah, I've.

Speaker 11 (53:07):
Unfortunately always seen the dark side of Wellington. I guess
you could say to look the other way.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Well, you know what, you sound to me like someone
with a bit of a bit of gumption, you know,
a bit of You're a good talker. You know you
can formulate your your words. Well, you seem reasonably positive.
I reckon, I reckon. You're going to kick some ass.
That's that's that's my prediction for you.

Speaker 11 (53:34):
I appreciate his words and I will try and work
on it.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Fight Jack, get back to us with the ass that
you've kicked.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Yeah, exactly. That's a man who hasn't given up on
Wellington quite yet. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number of care. How do you live in
a challenging environment like Wellington? And if you want to
boost Wellington up, please we need to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, because Wellington used to have a swagger about it.
It was all absolutely positively. Wellington the center of culture
in New Zealand. All the best music was coming out
of there. They was having ads telling you to go
down there and have an affair with your wife.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
There was a good time. Yeah, call this little capital
in the world.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
It was the best nightlife in the country.

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Yeah.

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Speaker 1 (55:24):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Twenty six PAS two when we're talking about a tirade
that's gone viral on TikTok by an Australian who lived
in Wellington. Wellington, he's had enough, he's going back to Queensland.
But he calls a cold dark depressing unmotivated people, tall poppy.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Everyone's sick. Hey, guys, that young guys bang on the money.
He was also so right read the tall poppy syndrome
that this country has. And I have to say more
so from Wellington. So Keewis will hate to hear the truth,
but he is bang on. Love the show. Cheers Jake,
I love you Jase. He's full of follow it and
contradicts himself. Talks about his lack of motivation for diet

(56:03):
and excise, goes on to say that he's fit and
healthy but still gets sick. Wouldn't believe a word this
bloody idiot says, Yeah, there's a very fair points okay
to this both sides. Simon, you think Wellington is wicked.

Speaker 25 (56:18):
I think it's just the best capital city in the
world and where I'm sitting at the moment, three sixty degrees,
no cloud, stunningly beautiful, not a breath of wind, and
it actually has been pretty much like that for the
last five days. And you know, it's so clear here
that from Karori you can see Mount Taranaki. That's the

(56:39):
first thing. If it gets a little bit noisy here
in a few minutes, that's because it'll be a flock
of kaka flying across. This city with its natural environment,
is unsurpassed. You know, yesterday I was out on the
south coast and feels on the beach, you know, like
where would you have that sort of wildlife and and

(57:00):
the natural environment, let alone maybe for don Is. I'll
get a plug in for everywhere around New Zealand because
if you want a quality of life and a work
life balance, this country can give it to you. And
Wellington's just come up really well along with Auckland in

(57:21):
international work life balance a survey. I think we were
first or second actually, and that's in spite of the
difficulties that we've had in the city over the last
six years in particular to get.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
Further to that.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Simon, So would you accept that two things. Firstly that
great that it's beautiful day and it has been for
a few days, but there is a challenging nature to
Wellington's weather. And secondly that Wellington may have lost its
mojo a little bit over over the last five or
six years.

Speaker 25 (57:54):
Yeah, but we're definitely on the way up. Yes, And
the only thing I think I agree with the young
Australian guy was that perhaps we are a bit of
a tall poppy environment from time to time. We've got
to do better because we've got champions and the city
as well. You know, the quartet you know of the
film industry with Richard and Tania and Peter and fran

(58:19):
and what works around them are only but a few,
you know, Like we've got a great gaming industry here,
We've got a really good startup. I but also we
have this environment that is dynamic and it is sometimes
the best entertainment package in the whole damn country. I
tell you, you get out onto the South Coast in

(58:39):
a storm and it's ever moving. And you know, my
photographic buddies around the world they can't believe where I live.
They think that it's just such a great place and
they come here and we take them on our tour
of Wellington of the heights and the coast, and they
love it. They want to come back, you know. And

(59:00):
I think that it's what anywhere in New Zealand anywhere, actually,
it's what you make of it. In this city is
god smackingly beautiful and it has. The guy actually did
say that we have good people. We have great people here.
Do you think of the natural environment and all the trapping,
you know, the predator free stuff. You know, I can

(59:21):
hear kiwi from my from where we are in Carori.
You know, we've got the end of the year we'll
have two hundred kiwi living within the city.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
I mean said, you're absolutely selling it. And I love
your passion for the city. What about his claims that
everyone's sick all the time?

Speaker 25 (59:37):
No, no, you've got to you've got to you've got
to work on that, and you've got to you've gotta
have a think about that as well. And actually the city.
We've got the public service in Wellington, and I think
in relation to sickness and illness and well being, the
public service doesn't do too badly in looking after its people.

(59:59):
And one of the things that the city Council has
done over the years is spend a lot on social services,
you know, like healthy homes and and the social housing
is now you know, to spect.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
What about the what about the violence that everyone talks
about on the streets. We've had a whole lot of
people texting that they're too scared to go out into
places that they used to party in.

Speaker 25 (01:00:21):
Yeah, there is homeless, homelessness on the streets, but you
should see, you know, I'm on this on the streets
with my work or both both my my my roles,
and I'm really impressed by the police and how they're
handling things, really empathetic and that that that gives you
a lot of confidence as well. Uh, you know, every

(01:00:43):
city has it has its issues. You know, it tells
you something about the climate too. If people can live
rough here, you know it's bad. But you know people
are generous too, you know, the generous to to the
to the people on the streets and in many many ways.
And it's just a really small minority that that cause difficulties.

(01:01:05):
You know, I wouldn't have any hesitation going down to
court in place or you know, the waterfront at most times.
You know, you get careful.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Well, thank you so much. For your call, Simon, we've
just got to go to an advase.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, you're a good advocate. Yeah, you're a great advocate
for Wellington. We love that, Simon, thank you very much.
I mean he was fizzing on Wellington and he was
you know, he started to sell it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Well, you know, living rough and Wellington. I've always thought
that's pretty hard because you had the old blanket man
and he was pretty much nude under that blanket. Yeah,
look like a warm blanket though didn't. But you know,
also you know people that were absolute advocates for down there,
of course was the recently departed Sir Bob Jones. Yeah,
very true. So you know, for for a city that
allegedly hates tall poppies, it's created some of our some
of our tallest poppies.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Yeah, nicely said. It is twenty seven to three oh
eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.
How do you deal with the crazy weather in Wellington?
And do you want to hit back at this Australian
man who says that it's cold, dark and depressing?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Listic? It says, I'm a god? What's this guy talking about? Wellington?
Is not God? Smackingly beautiful, It's rubbish severed through contrasting
opinion love.

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Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Thank you very much, Raileen. We're talking about this young Australian.
He's had a massive crack at Wellington online. It's gone viral.
His name is Carshi used a little bit of what
he says.

Speaker 22 (01:03:36):
And I still managed to find myself constantly sick here.
It is cold, it is dark, it is gloomy, it
is depressing, It is raining almost all the time. You
get a couple of good days here and there in
summer is nice, And I think that reflects really hard
on a lot of the people that live here. I
have never met in my life. In my short time here,

(01:03:59):
people more unmotivated and depressed and bummy and doing it rough,
and I have since I've moved here, And I think
it almost creates this net. This country definitely does have
some tall poppy issues. But I think those tall poppy
issues come from a point of jealousy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yeah, he goes, so we did a drive by on
the entire country there at the end that the whole
country's got a tall poppy situation there. But is he right?
Is Wellington absolutely rubbish, as this young Australian says Jonathan Happen.

Speaker 26 (01:04:35):
Guys, No, absolutely not.

Speaker 20 (01:04:39):
That.

Speaker 26 (01:04:39):
I just just hearing out again. It is not dark,
it is not gloomy. Yes, winter can be harsh, but
we've got a beautiful day to day here. It's nice
and sunny, not much in the way of wind. But yeah,
it was pretty cold this morning, but winter's you just
you've just got to hunker down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
What about the what about the attitude of the people, people, Jonathan,
what about the attitude and the wellness of the people.

Speaker 26 (01:05:09):
Again, I think he's way out the top there and
this was unnecessary and a thatt your attitude. Well, then
go home and good riddance to you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Well, this is what someone said. He can go home
to his mommy in Queensland and never come back.

Speaker 26 (01:05:22):
Since this teachers he sounds like a sick little puppy.
I've lived in Runnington for coming out fifty years and
I've seldom, if ever been sick. The rest that might
happen else, I might get a sniffle and maybe need
to blame my nose once or twice. So I'm very
lucky and fortunate in that respect.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Well, do you think post. Possibly his problem is that
he is acclimatized to the Queensland.

Speaker 26 (01:05:48):
Oh god, yeah, Queensland. Yeah, anyone that comes out of
from Queensland to here, what would absolutely get what would
be a major That would be a major.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Have you lived in many other places in the world, Jonathan.

Speaker 26 (01:06:04):
Not outside in New Zealand, though I was born and
raised in Auckland. Love Auckland. And that's the thing I
like about Wellington Compared to Auckland. It could probably be
fit Wellington on the north shore of Auckland. It's Wellington
is a lovely compact city. It's easy to get around,
great public transport, both train and buses. If you are
driving again, you know, it's not not fair to get

(01:06:25):
Newhe you could probably probably from Upperhart to Island Bay.
You might might take your thirty minutes forty five pet stops.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Are you getting impressed by the tall poppy syndrome that
he's spotting? He says, everyone's miserable and the tool poppy
syndrome is real.

Speaker 26 (01:06:39):
Rubbish, absolute rubbish, tall poppy syndrome. No, we've had the filming.
You know, those those names mentioned before, Sir Peter Jackson,
fan wild the film industry tycho Waititi the concords. No,
I don't feel there's a tall poppy here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
As it lost its mojo a little bit in the
last five years because because because Wellington used to be
so confident, it used to be basically giving Auckland the birds,
saying we've got the better culture. You guys may be
the biggest city, but we've got more going on.

Speaker 26 (01:07:12):
And yeah, I think, sorry, now you think Wellington has
stuff had the worst in my opinion, and probably somebody
called us might ring up and disagree with us. I
think at at the moment, I think Wellington's probably got
the worst counsel in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
It's just find someone that disagrees with that.

Speaker 26 (01:07:34):
Yeah, but no, it's it has lost its mojo, Bonnington.
It's still got a good night life on Friday night,
Saturday nights, good good pub scene, good restaurant scene, social scene,
all that still exists.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call Jonathan
going into bat for Wellington. The more I hear of
that young cashy guy, the more I think he does
seem like hard work, doesn't he He lost me and
I'm hitting my macros and I'm still getting sick. So
you're hitting your macros. You're you're eating you know, I
know what your macros are. There's macros or my partner,
she's big on the gym. There's macros all over for house.

(01:08:08):
Yeah she's said love the macros. Yeah she loves the macros.
But that doesn't stop you getting for say, there are
two types of kiwis, those with can do and those
with won't do neither can you. I like the first kind,
and I'm gradually learning to dislike the second. Great text.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?
Are you backing Wellington? If you've heard this young man's rant?
What do you want to say to him? Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's
eighteen to three.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Wellington is depressing, pushing into the sea. Wow, how would
you do that? It's pretty close. I suppose there's more
retaining walls in Wellington than any other city probably in
the world. You'd be pushing hard.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Matt heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
News Talks V afternoon. It is a quarter to three.
So this guy, this Australian that's come from Queensland to Wellington,
he's posted. He says he absolutely hates it. Everyone's depressing,
there's a tall poppy sing rome, everyone's no one's motivated,
and he's going home to mummy. While I'm adding that, yeah,
well he is. But you know, part of it we
were thinking maybe, Look, he's come from a very warm climate.

(01:09:17):
Queensland is a beautiful climate. Well, it's humid. I mean,
there's some challenges to the Queensland climate absolutely, but it's
it's consistently warm. Yeah, and brizzy it is, and on
the Goldie yeap. So it'd be interesting to talk to
Grant here because Grant, you're an immigrant to Wellington from
South Africa, and South Africa is known to get pretty

(01:09:37):
warm at times. And what do you think of Wellington?

Speaker 27 (01:09:41):
Hey, Matt and Tyler Wilder. Thanks for having me, guys.
Good good subject, mate, really good and I'm glad I'm
on again. I've been on once before, so thanks for
having me. Look I love it great, grandly love it. Yeah, yeah, no,
Look it's a fantastic city. I've been here seventeen years
own my own business, well, my wife and I own
I'm business in the city and we really love it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
The climate.

Speaker 27 (01:10:02):
Look, the climate's not great, but you can find fault everywhere.
I mean my wife grew up in Durban and she
battled with the humidity and the heat and she loves
Wellington and you know, we just find it great. And
when when you're finding fault in anything, man, you know,
when people meet me, they say, mate, you talk too much,
and I think, well, if that's all you can find
fault with, great nomber Auckland friends come down and they

(01:10:25):
say it's windy, and it's you know, it's windy. It's windy.
Well that's all you can find faultless. And it's great
to stay out of the wind or if it rains,
put a raincoat on. You know, it's a good city man.
You know these previous callers, every single one of them
have hit its spot on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Well, that's the key though, it's just going to take
you back to a point that you've made there and
Wellington definitely put a raincoat on. Don't try to put
up an umbrella exactly.

Speaker 28 (01:10:51):
We try to find the umbrellas.

Speaker 27 (01:10:52):
When we first moved to Willington.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
We wondered why we couldn't find them.

Speaker 27 (01:10:56):
Yes, I don't exist because you can't move them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
What about the attitude of the people, Grant, because a
lot of what this guy is saying is that there's
the tall poppy syndrome. People are motivated this sickle time.
Is that your experience, Grant?

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
No, no, all.

Speaker 27 (01:11:11):
I mean I've got sick during COVID and that's it.
I haven't been sick at all in Willington.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Editing your micros.

Speaker 27 (01:11:20):
Yeah, that's all right. You know, you've got to what
I do like about the city. It's small so compared
to where I come from and other cities in the world.
So for me getting around as a chip and a put.
You know, there's good traffic, there's good you know there's not. Yes,
we have the odd traffic jam here and there, like
every city, but you're not sitting in the traffic for

(01:11:40):
two hours twenty thirty minutes on the worst scenario. Coming
in transmission, Gutty is a great improvement for those guys
coming from the coast, guys coming from Upper Hat. Look,
A're going to have a few challenges in billing interchange changes.
But now once that's finished. That'll be great on that side,
and we're going to have this beautiful walkway going around
the harbor soon. Look, the center of the city. My

(01:12:05):
personal opinion, and we've all had our opinions today, but
there's not opinions. I think it started going wrong with
the earthquakes. We unfortunately had those horrible earthquakes, which then
obviously took a few people out of the city. We
had roadworks going on, and you know, reading cinemas and
that whole area closing down that that didn't do anything
for the city, and then to make it worse. And look,

(01:12:27):
I do I want to criticize other people in the
way they do their jobs, but over the last couple
of years of some of the changes with the walkways
and the cycle lanes and the and the bus that's
definitely affected business big time. And you have to feel
really sorry for those businesses in the city because you know,
you've got guys that invested huge amounts of money in
some great cafes which just don't exist anymore. And so

(01:12:51):
you know, there's been a bit of impact there. But
I think it's going to come back. You know, I'm
a little bit in the hospitality industry, and I've just
seen some really good shoots coming through with you know,
guys reinventing themselves. There's been a few changes you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
You've got a fantastic attitude and I love to hear it.
But I've got to ask this question. So there's another
famous South African Grant that's a welling Tonian. Now you're
not the Heary jam are you. You're not Grant Elliott,
are you.

Speaker 27 (01:13:18):
I'm not granted that I've never met him, and I
do believe that he comes from Johannesburg as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
But he's a great bloke. He's a good import.

Speaker 27 (01:13:26):
He loves some fantastic imports.

Speaker 20 (01:13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Well, I'll tell you what. I'm glad that you moved
to New Zealand and you moved to Wellington and you're
loving it and you're not winging and whining on social
media about it. You're just getting on with it, running
a business and becoming a great New Zealander. Thank you
so much for your call, Grant, your second called to us,
and both of them being fantastic.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It is ten to three if you
live in Wellington. Why do you love it? And if
you think it is a whole by all means, give
us a call and tell us why Beck in the month.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way, mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons, News talks,
It be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
News talks, there be it is eight to three. I
reckon the demise of Wellington's seven sucked a life and
fun out of Wellington. The slogan should be Wellington with
fun goes to dice is Rory. Absolutely when the sevens
was going off, Wellington was god. It was fun visiting
Wellington for the sevens. Rich is your thoughts on Wellington?
We can we can only have you for about forty
five seconds, so go hard quickly please, all right, all right.

Speaker 13 (01:14:26):
I'm born in Auckland. I come from a family of
Dutch background. There's a lot of Dutch and Wellington. I
grew up down there with every holiday that you could
think of as a child, going through with school, holidays, everything.
I think Wellington as a whole well of gorse, full

(01:14:48):
of those yellow flowers and gorse. It's like going back
in time. I was only there two months ago for
a family funeral, and I just thought, this is why
I don't visit the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Place too much. Gorse in Wellington.

Speaker 20 (01:15:03):
Yeah, well, how about the houses?

Speaker 13 (01:15:05):
I mean, everything's back from the thirties and fifty What.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
About the people? Are the people happy? Are the people
happy and vibrant and kicking down doors and making things happen?

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Richard?

Speaker 13 (01:15:16):
Well, look, I think when you're born there, you've got
to deal with what you've got, and they make.

Speaker 20 (01:15:20):
The most of it.

Speaker 13 (01:15:21):
But town life, city life at night time's amazing and
Wellington other than that, no thanks, you can have it,
give it to someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
That's Richard's opinion. Now we're going to bring Barry soaper
news talks. They'd be senior political correspondent to the show
on Wellington. You spent a lot of time there, having
you Barry.

Speaker 28 (01:15:45):
Oh, well, most of the life actually, you know, well
over forty years. I've spent one time. In fact, at
the moment, lads, I'm driving into a beautifully sunny Wellington
day about to go through the mount back tonel so
you may lose the signal. Although technology in this city
is probably so good that will continue talking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Do you love about Wellington, Barry?

Speaker 28 (01:16:11):
I love the size for a start, because there's nowhere
that you can't really walk to if you're in the
sort of the the center sort of the Wellington. I
like the size, in particular the weather everybody Winge is about,
but they also acclaim any day that day in Welmington,

(01:16:32):
it's remembered for months on the end that I'm experiencing
that right at the moment. So look it to great class.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Oh, I think we've just lost Barry in the Mount
Victoria tunnel. But he was about to say it's a
great place. Oh, we got your bag Bury quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
The night life.

Speaker 28 (01:16:51):
Fantastic. Go down Courtney Place and I have done just
at the end of Taranaki Street, right near Courtney Place
at one stage. It's always vibrant, it's always rocking. You
can always get a meal, even in the early hours
of the morning where there I f had Auckland closers up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Yes, Arry, And finally, what about the last few years
has Wellington lost its mojo somewhat? It used to be
so confident, it used to be giving Auckland the bird.
It was absolutely positively this come down and have an
af fear with your wife that. But has it fallen
off a Cliff a little bit. In the last few years, Barry, I.

Speaker 28 (01:17:30):
Think it's been tainted by the governance of Wellington, and
you know that I guess that sort of filters through
to the community. So I think people are a bit
despondent about the way the council has been run. But
you know, later this year there's hope ahead. We've got
the local body elections and hope that people now enroll

(01:17:51):
and get out and vote in Wellington because we know
what we want here. We want celebration, because this city
is so capable of it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Well, you're in the tunnel, can you honk your horn
for us?

Speaker 28 (01:18:03):
No, we've just honked the horn through. You must have
heard it all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Can you can you hang it again?

Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Yeah, yeah nice? We took too honking is horn for Wellington.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Barry, You're a great man. Thank you very much. Right
coming up after the news, Wrestling and Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Your new home for instateful and Entertaining Talk. It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Sebby Very good afternoon, g Welcome back into the program.
Seven past three, So sad News again. This week stars
from the Sporting and entertainment industries are remembering Hulk Hogan
as a treasure and a trailblazer. The two time WWE
Hall of Famer and former World Champion, whose real name
was Terry Jean Boela, died at the age of seventy one,

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and one of those tributes was from a very successful
man in wrestling himself, w w E chairman and CEO,
Vince McMahon, who paid tribute on X to Hogan, calling
him the greatest WWE superstar of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
You've seen that Netflix documentary series, McMahon, you'll know how
they joined an alliance. They formed an alliance that just
exploded wrestling and Hulk Hogan became just a superstar that
absolutely transcended the sport of wrestling, went into movies. He
was absolutely everywhere. There were whole Camaniacs in every school

(01:19:32):
in New Zealand. People absolutely loved him odd because you know,
he had probably the rudest haircut anyone's ever had in
the history of haircuts. Yeah, crazy, crazy looking guy, but
had this absolute charisma and then he took the heel
turned with Hollywood. Hulk Hogan an incredible story. His personal

(01:19:53):
life was fraught as a lot of wrestler's personal lives
are and you know, some people have problems with him
as a man, but as a wrestler and as a
cultural icon, you've got to say Hulk Hogan really loomed
large over the late eighties nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah, led the way of the golden Golden Age of wrestling.
So we want to hear from you on oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty, were you or are you still
a massive fan of world wrestling? Were you're a massive
fan of Hulk Hogan during those heydays and some of
those other fantastastic wrestlers around that time?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
What was the greatest era of wrestling? And you know,
what do you think of Hulk Hogan? You know, as
an as a as an entity, loved him, hated him,
But what about wrestling as a whole? Do you love
it like I do? Or do you think it's a
load of stupid, fake rubbish and everyone like me who
loves it as an absolute idiot? Do you think macho

(01:20:45):
man Randy Savage was nothing? Have you got no time
for rowdy Roddy Piper? Does Andre the Giant mean nothing
to you at all?

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Question the Rock the Rock Diamond Dallas page oh, my god,
so many oh eight hundred eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Ten eight Stone Cold Steve Austin, Yeah, give us a bars.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eight my god, the undertaking
you undertake a huge triple h mankind who you mentioned before,
Brett the hit Man Heart Yeah, so many. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call if
you're a wrestling fan. Love to hear from you, or
if you never saw what the big fuss was about,
Love to hear from you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Yeah, and some people that don't see Some people don't
see what the fuss is all about. A lot of
people just think it's the absolutely stupidest thing that's ever happened.
That has led to a whole lot of incredible and
dangerous people activities from people like me. Yep, come on through.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call right now, though it is ten past three.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoon on ZB we
name the new Zealander of the Week, and honor that
we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who's had
an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over
the previous week. As always, there'll be three nominees but
only one winner, So without further ado, the nominees for
Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week are
Nominee one also gets the ID buy that for a

(01:22:05):
dollar seven days the block Pop Sport the Jackie Brown
Eye is outrageous fortune. TV three. You have made some
of our greatest ever TV shows and after thirty five
years of surviving against the odds, fueled on nothing but
raw Kiwi talon, a love of entertainment, hard work, and
by sucking all the cash out of successful radio stations,

(01:22:28):
you have been sold for a buck to Sky TV.
But the joy you have brought to Kiwi since nineteen
eighty nine is worth at least three times that much.
TV three, May you rise again, refreshed and covered in Sport.
You have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 28 (01:23:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Nominee two also gets the Based on a True Story Award.
A production visionary who helped shape the very sound of
music in this country, from Wellington Jam sessions in the
late nineties to global acclaim. Your influence was huge and
so very very positive. Your sudden loss is that those
who loved you, and those who loved what you do
are fat Freddy's DJ moo rop very nice man, gone

(01:23:27):
too soon. But there can be only one, and the
winner also gets there his dairia reward. You flavor our chicken,
You grease our hands, You cover our toast from edge
to edge, and on top of that, you keep our
economy afloat. When you are up, we are up. But
you are also the target of hate. This week the

(01:23:48):
Minister of Finance came for you. Reporters harangued private citizens
on the street over you, and twelve hundred ungrateful people
texted the mattin Tyler Show, melting down over the extra
bucks you are costing them each week. Don't listen. Everything
is better with you in it or on it. You
would be cheap at twice the price, and we would
be better off to pay. Don't listen to the haters.

(01:24:10):
You are pure yellow gold. We love you, we need you.
It's a lot better with a little butter, New Zealand
Butter you are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander
of the Week. Spread the word and take it away.
How are we?

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
Morris news Dog Zebby.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Is sixteen past three, we're talking about wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
The sad news that we heard today, Holt Hogan, one
of the WWE superstars, has sadley passed away at the
age of seventy one.

Speaker 7 (01:25:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
So a lot of people texting this through, which is
was so true for me as well. W w F
was banned from our intermediate school in nineteen eighty seven
eighty eight. As kids, we're trying to figure four leg lots. Yeah,
I mean I got in trouble for sneaking out behind
my friend and trying to do a sleephold on him. Absolutely,
did it go well? The sleephold? Yeah? Well, the thing
about the sleepholders didn't never put people to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
I mean, you know looks hard to pull off, right, Yeah,
and you're right, and when they don't go to sleep,
you think what am I doing wrong here?

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Yeah? As I was never a professional wrestler, so I
could never actually put people to sleep. Huge been a
brutish the barb beefcake actually and putting people asleep and
cutting me here was something I always wanted to do. Well,
welcome the show, Scott. Your thought on hul Hogan in
that sleephold.

Speaker 8 (01:25:49):
The Million Dollar Dream was the best one though, because
the arm came through and putting the arm against the throat.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
So that was there was there was one.

Speaker 8 (01:25:58):
I also got put in the principal's office and had
a bit of a chat about wrestling moves on the
on the on the on the field. At lunchtime, the
whole nation came through.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
There was not a one new six o'clock report for
for years without concerns about all wrestling and it was
being big done at schools and all all the assemblies
that you know, every assembly was that that was just
a lecture on all the wrestling that was being done
on different parts of the school.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
So great, Oh man, it was awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
So I guess my earliest recollection of it was it
became I think it was Saturday Night main Well Superstars
of Wrestling, I think it was. It was on a
Saturday night on TV in z. I think I think
it was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
It was the only thing we had, wasn't it. So
it was TV in Zed.

Speaker 8 (01:26:46):
Then the Holster and all that. You had Coco Beware
and you had the Bad News Brown Judger Dog. You
had all that group of people and they wrestle these guys,
these little guys, and they'd smashed them pieces and all that,
but the Hogster just just brought everything to life and
it made the It made the whole show more exciting

(01:27:10):
because you ended up not really caring about the wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
You wanted to hear them chat and you'd have mucho man,
you know, and you'd be like, what did he just say?
You've had no idea?

Speaker 8 (01:27:22):
And then the ultimate worry you came along and he
rambled away as well, and it just made.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Such good theater, good telly, and then they got in
the ring.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
You're like, oh, that's fun, but can you go through
some more yacking because that's hilarious. So and that's where
the TV shows aspect of you know, entertainment of the
side of wrestling became so prominent and then grew into
what it became in the in the late nineties with
the Attitude era, Stone Cold, Triple h, the Rock. I mean,
the guy just oozed charisma on the microphone, and it

(01:27:56):
leads into the product we have today. Now it's mainstream completely,
it's a massive business with t KO and UFC, they're
all one and the same together on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
And all of it started with the Bubblegum.

Speaker 8 (01:28:08):
Superstar cards that we had, you know, as kids you'd
go down the shop and buy the bubblegum cards. And
it started with Hulk Hogan, you know, Coco Beware and
all those guys doing such a good job of selling
the product itself. And then of course they toured as well,
and that was cool when Andre the Giant everything, so
the Hulkster was to me. You know, I wanted to
grow up and be the Hulk stuff. I think every

(01:28:30):
kid wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Be the whole with the yuppie.

Speaker 8 (01:28:32):
Haircut, the envitamins, say your prayers and grew your twenty
four inch pythons, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
You know, you just wanted to be big and Saco
Romaniacs thrown through it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, and you remember remember that the greatest moment, well
arguably the greatest moment in Hulk Hogan's career when he
did the absolute impossible, something that never happened before. He
body slammed Andre the Giant of What a.

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
Moment, Rissmania three, I think, just just amazing. Apparently it
really wrecked his.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Back to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
So it was so funny.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
That was a moment, but I totally worrying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Oh yeah, I just.

Speaker 8 (01:29:15):
Won, you know, the whole Cogan Warrior WrestleMania. That was
one of my favorite all time matches because I was
a big fan of both and to see two baby faces,
you know, or two good guys to don't know what
baby faces me that that was, that was I just
didn't know where to go with myself, you know. And
it was sort of like the Rock and Wholk Hogan
WrestleMania eighteen. The crowd swayed backwards and forwards, and then

(01:29:37):
all of a sudden, Hogan became the baby face in
that match, and of course he was a heel because
he was in WO. And then the Rock became the
bad the bad guy if you like. And that one
match it just showed you how much those two guys
were so well respected and how much you know, all
the little kids, all the sorry the adults and teenagers
that were in the crowd that were Hulks, the Frians

(01:29:58):
from when they were really young, just that still struck
in them. And it was like, man, we want Holks
to to be you know, come out and the and
the red and yellow to real American and we're done
with the n WO stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
We want the old Holks to back. Come on now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Well, you know that was the amazing brilliance of Hulk
Hogan to know when his time was up as a
babyface and to become Hollywood Hulk Hogan and become become
a heel. That I mean, that was absolutely a brilliant
move and absolutely shocking to people. But people the times
had changed and the whole whole commania thing didn't quite
quite work. The you know, the you know, I am

(01:30:31):
the great, your great American, you know that that didn't work.
So he knew he could sense it and he changed.
But it's funny just to go back to that body
slam of Andre the Giant. It's funny because I was
so hyped up about it. It goes he's going to
do it. It's never been done before. But I saw
this documentary on it the other day and apparently Andre
the Dry had been body slammed hundreds of times. It

(01:30:51):
just wasn't a thing, but they hyped up that story,
and then that story was just so important to you,
you know, the first time giants ever been body slammed,
It just meant so much.

Speaker 8 (01:31:01):
Yes, Yeah, they've been doing any house shows for years,
apparently unrecorded shows.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Yeah, they've been doing it for quite time.

Speaker 8 (01:31:08):
So that's why I said, he's back pretty it was
pretty sure, but of course, you know he's had that fused.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Just did you enjoy the bush Wackers? You know that
was incredible.

Speaker 8 (01:31:19):
Yeah, Luke and Butch, they were fantastic when they were
real characters. I kind of felt that they got hard
done by in some regards because they're actually pretty good. Yeah,
they you know, they acted their roles really well and
they're actually pretty good and ring as well. So they're
unlucky not to get a title. But I guess you're
having to. You know, we're going to take it off.
Brett Harton and Jim and the Ambel Nightheart. I don't

(01:31:39):
think you were all demolition or you know, these sorts
of teams that they had natural disasters.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
They had some pretty good teams.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Well, they were full, you know, the way they came
out and everything it was, it was it was sort
of played played for comedy and people. People absolutely loved them,
but they weren't kind of quite that level of sort
of hero you know that they went the level of
the people that that you know that they were great
comic relief, but they were actually really good wrestlers and
have been doing it for such a long time by
the time they made it into the w w F.

Speaker 8 (01:32:06):
Hey think you it made you think, It made you
think that you could get into the too, because that
key we see you setly with hope.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Yeah, it kind of suggested that we were kind of
suggested we were a massive bushworking back area, but maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
We were great characters. Scott, You're a good man. I'm
fixed up with this conversation. A lot of people are oh, wait,
one hundred eighty ten eighty were you're a massive fan
or are you still a massive fan of WWE WWF.
Love to hear from you. O eight hundred eighty ten
eighty It's twenty three parst three.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news Talk ZB very.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Good afternoons you twenty five past three. We are talking
about the sad death of Hulk Hogan. But your memories
of Big Time Wrestling WWE WWF I eight hundred eighty
ten eighties eighties and number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Wrestling is fixed, you muppets. Everyone knows it. It's not
even real, you idiots? Really wrestling?

Speaker 7 (01:33:03):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
It's not?

Speaker 9 (01:33:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Hang on what those storylines were fake? Get out. Oh
my god, Like we're not open to conspiracy theories. We
need to see more evidence that wrestling is fixed. That
is real life. What are you talking about, Andrew, You
went to dinner with the Hexord Jim Duggan.

Speaker 29 (01:33:21):
He came to an army edden up in Auckland there
and Hexaord Jim Duggan was telling us about just what
you were talking about before with Andre the Giant and
Hulk Cogan.

Speaker 11 (01:33:31):
So apparently it was decided to sort.

Speaker 29 (01:33:34):
Of pass the mental on that that Andre was going
to semi retire or whatever was doing go on the Princess.

Speaker 21 (01:33:40):
Bride or what ended up.

Speaker 29 (01:33:44):
And so yeah, the deal was that he would body
slam him, but no one knew if Andre was going
to do it. And apparently even during the fight, Andre
was going and then apparently, you know, right when you
remember it, Andre tapped them on the shoulder and we're

(01:34:04):
doing and that's when it happened.

Speaker 20 (01:34:07):
Because he hadn't really could I never really had titles.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
He didn't like snakes though, Andrew, he didn't like snakes.

Speaker 13 (01:34:15):
Though, didn't like snakes, but he at rhyming.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
I met Hacks or Jim Duggan at the same time
when he were over here for again. And what I
thought was awesome about him is you know he's you
know have these people, you have these precious musicians. It
made me think about it. Actually, take say Kirk Cobain
for example, and this make seem like a bit of
a journey. I'm going to take you on here, but
smells like Teen Spirit had only been out for eighteen
months when Kirk Cobain refused to play it anymore because

(01:34:43):
it was too commercially he couldn't handle doing it. But
I met Hacksaw Jim Duggan, and I immediately asked him
if he would, and he put the bit of four
or two behind his head and yelled, oh, just like that.
He didn't he didn't even question it for a second.

Speaker 19 (01:34:57):
You know, well he carried it into the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
What a legend. But you know what I mean, they're not.
He wasn't ashamed of of or thought it was cheesy
or was. It was just so willing to do that
bit that you would make me giddy with excitement.

Speaker 29 (01:35:16):
I've got a piece of four x two signed by
him from.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Why didn't I get a bit of four two signed
by him?

Speaker 20 (01:35:24):
When I.

Speaker 29 (01:35:29):
The other the other great thing of wrestling in Wellington.
I was there when the Undertaker came out, when I went,
oh wow, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Mean how long did the Undertaker? The Undertaker whistled for
longer than than anyone, right, but he just went, went
and went and went. He could only walk by the
end of it.

Speaker 11 (01:35:48):
Well that's because he was undead.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the big thing with the undertake
when I was a kid, and you'd remember it, but
it was the Undertaker versus Mankind the Hell in a
Cell and that was huge the lead up to that storyline.
And then when the Undertaker grabs man Kind and drops
him from the top of that cage down into the
met and I think behind the scenes actually there was

(01:36:11):
worry that mcfoley was incredibly injured. But being mankind, is
that not?

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
We carry on. We carry on well mcfoley, because I've
read three mcfoley books. Actually he wrote a couple of
great books in a novel, a couple of great autobiographies
and actually a novel. He was a very smart guy.
Mcfoley mankind. He was also Dude Love and Cactus Jack.
But you know, he was badly injured by that, and
he went out of the back. He didn't know he was.
He didn't when he came back running out, running back out,

(01:36:37):
and it was the rock when the rock threw him
off the thing that he came running back out right,
that's right in the cage as well. I'm pretty sure.
But he couldn't remember coming back out. So that's the
thing about these professional wrestlers. People think that, you know,
they go folk, they're not real athletes. They used to
actually be able to get insurance health insurance, where a
lot of athletes doing what they do wouldn't be able

(01:36:57):
to do because people just thought it was fake. But
it wasn't. It was it's serious athleticism. And they got
seriously injured. I mean, the blood's real. And you know,
if you're mankind, if you're mcfoley, you were, you were
getting messed up that extreme wrestling. It's it's full on.

Speaker 20 (01:37:17):
Look at his forehead.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah yeah, Andrew, you're a good man.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Thank you very much. Great stories.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. I love to hear your stories about
WWE wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
This is a smart person, Blair. He's text he's texted
in bring back Brutus, the Barber Beefgate one of your faves.
I love Brutus, the Barber Beefgate too good. It is
bang on up Pass three.

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Speaker 9 (01:39:05):
Joms crashing down, it has inside.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
You take a standards on him.

Speaker 7 (01:39:23):
Past side.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Brings back memories. Isn't it absolute tune huke Mania again?

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Yeah, so good, and that is what we are talking
about right now. And there's so much buying, so many
lovers of the golden days.

Speaker 26 (01:39:57):
Of w w E.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Yeah, but do you think it's an absolute load of
rubbish w w E or w w F as it
was when Hulk Hogan was applying his trade in the
gold an era of wrestling? In my opinion, do you
think it's absolutely stupid and people like Tyler and I
and the full lines we've got here and the thousands
of people that are texting are absolute idiots for being

(01:40:22):
interested in it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty If you think it
was a load of rubbish, love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Mazz's text that I thought you were ravishing Rick rude
man man. I was never ravishing Rick mood boy, oh boy,
great bot. Yeah, RAST had a lot of time for
Jake Snate Roberts. Yeah yeah he was up there, Scott
Welcome to the show, hey boys.

Speaker 30 (01:40:42):
Yeah, now that some of those notes are amazing, and
like Hercules with his chains around his neck, and yeah,
there's some pretty cool, pretty cool guys. I've got three
main memories and one you can kind of close your
eyes and you can open up the packet of bus
wrestling cards, you know, collected wrestling and bustle cards, but
the wrestling cards in particular round early early or late

(01:41:02):
eighties I think it was. And you can smell that
pink chewing gum.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Oh yeah. I was explaining this my pads got I
was explaining these this to my kids. How the it
doesn't matter. It was the worst bubble gum that the
world has ever created, but it didn't really matter. It
was this kind of dusty, weird, pink rubbish, but you're
you lose its flavor in about one month. But it
was about the cards. I don't even know why they
continued with the gum.

Speaker 30 (01:41:26):
Yeah, it was amazing and just and just going down
to the dairya, or going down to the book shop
and asking your mum for a few bucks to try
and buy these basketball cards in trading them with your maids,
and as you say at school, trying to put sleephold on.
And yeah, Brutus above Beefcake. Everyone loved that guy. I
think the second memory for me was staying up late
and watching the wrestling with my dad and watching like
the Royal Rumble when they'd call the numbers, you know,

(01:41:48):
like they'd call one and two and then and then
everyone else would follow after that and they'll come into
the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Well do you remember We're Royal Rumber nineteen ninety two
when Rick Fleer came in third and no one had
ever come in third in one Royal Rumble before, and
Rick Fleer right to the air right at the end.
No one thought he could do it. And as a kid,
you don't know the staf but because right from the
start you've been told that no one's effort gone on
to win from third in the ring. But he did

(01:42:16):
it actually, And I'll see if I'll see if I
can play you a little bit of a bit of
audio of.

Speaker 7 (01:42:20):
The end of that.

Speaker 30 (01:42:21):
Yeah, yeah, I think the Nature Boy wasn't he. And
I think he took out Andre the Giant if I
remember like within the Light, Andre John might have been
within the last two or three.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Well the Hulk was in there at the end.

Speaker 30 (01:42:33):
And yeah, I mean it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Yeah, what what great memories.

Speaker 30 (01:42:38):
And I think the last one for me was Miss Elizabeth.
So she was always in between Moto Man, Randy Savage
and Hulk Hogan. And I'm pretty sure she was married
in real life to Randy Savitge and and then those
two kind of always had a bit of a hatred
and they and then they got together, they teamed up

(01:43:01):
for a while and yeah, I just remember her and
that sort of love triangle was it was pretty awesome
and that was that was pretty special moments.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
Actually, yes, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Thank if you call Scott. It was unadulterated crap, but
it was so so good entertainment that s bes totally
invisible from Kenny.

Speaker 13 (01:43:21):
So good.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
One and eighteen eighty is the number to call, Graham.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
You're taking it back to the New Zealand version of things.

Speaker 20 (01:43:29):
Oh look, I think that's where our love affair wrestling
came from. Tyler and Met. I remember on the Met
it was run by Steve Ricard and Ernie Leonard.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
I'm just looking it up now because I'm not that
familiar with On the Met. I kind of came into
it in the w W.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Well on the Mat was the New Zealand New Zealand.

Speaker 20 (01:43:50):
That was the first sort of it was back in
the late seventies, I think, with characters such as Mark
Lewin King.

Speaker 24 (01:43:58):
Curtis Curtis, a Door with a butcher, Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:44:03):
Samow and Joe, all of these creation and put it
was only in black and white back in those days.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Yeah, the Rock's dad competed on on the Mat, I'm
pretty sure.

Speaker 20 (01:44:16):
Yeah, I honestly can't remember him as a character. I
think he did, Rocky Johnson I think is his name.
But but it was a Saturday night treat, you know.
If we didn't we didn't really do the dishes before
that on the mat. So, but that was when I
honestly remember as a young person that wrestling became sports entertainment,

(01:44:42):
and yeah, we thought it was the real deal. Two
ways about that. But I think I watched a bit
of it. Today it's a very different to me. It's
become more entertainment than it has sports.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
Unfortunately, yeah, I mean it's it's hugely different now again
in some of the what I guess, the people are
loving and mentioning all these characters from from you know
that the heyday I'm thinking of the characters were more
they weren't cool in a way. They had that they're
they're there, you know, their gimmick was so bold and

(01:45:17):
big and huge, big and huge being the same thing.
That's a tautology. But now it's like, now it's your
you're sort of this, you're a person, you're sort of
a you're more sort of presented like an athlete, but
you're less less of a yeah yeah, yeah that You've
just said it in two words, that three words. And

(01:45:37):
I was trying to say, thank you so much for
your cool Graham appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Yeah, good call, Right, got a play some messages, but
we've got so many calls to get to, oh one
hundred eighty ten eighty what are your memories from the
golden days of wrestling? And if you're still a watcher,
love to hear from you. And if you think it's
all a bit of rubbish, keen to have a chat
with you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
All these morons saying it's fake don't realize it's only
the storylines and characters which were fake. What they do
in the ring is real, and they get injured quite
a lot. Most of the old wrestlers have serious operations
on hips, shoulders and necks, and let's be honest, a
lot of them are dead from steroid abuse as well.
Very true. Nineteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons,
call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Say'd be sixteen to four and we aren't talking about
your memories of w w E or ww F on
the sad news of the past, scene of who was
one of the biggest superstars? Holt Hogan, Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Rick Fleer was on on the mat in nineteen eighty three,
so Rick Fleer was in New Zealand, didn't know that
cheaper is a lot of people are just texting in Jimmy,
Jimmy Fly, Jimmy Superfly, Snooker. It's a lot of It's
a great name, Steve, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 24 (01:46:52):
Yeah, goody, how are you going, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Very very good? Your thoughts on Hulk logan in general.

Speaker 24 (01:46:59):
Yeah, I was a huge wrestling fan. I actually joined
the WWF Fan Club when I was a kid. I
used to buy the magazines.

Speaker 31 (01:47:06):
Yeah, and then I said a fact from here to
Titan Sports in New York and became a member of
the fan club. And yeah, I bought a Hulk Hogan
figurine with the wrestling belt on it, and I bought
the cassette with all of the ring entrances and I
still I've still got them.

Speaker 24 (01:47:25):
I've still got them all to the day.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
So yeah, so you would have been singing long before
I am a real macan.

Speaker 24 (01:47:32):
I actually was right, every man. Yeah, and I we
used to we used to play wrestling on the tramp
and then I put my cassette out to set radio
on the outside and then play the intro music so
I could actually run down to the trampoline while the
music was playing. And then we played wrestling on the trampoline.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
And what sort of moves were you doing there? Can
you remember any of your signature signature moves Steve on
the tramp.

Speaker 24 (01:47:58):
Just the body slam, but I could do a suplex
as well, so.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Yeah, yep, yeah, there was Do you remember the hysteria
that that we were all gonna kill each other with
the wrestling moves. I remember like everybody was wildly concerned.

Speaker 24 (01:48:14):
But I mean, no, I don't think anyone got really hard,
but I can remember, I can remember everybody being hysterical
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Yeah, it was like the teachers at my school thought
that you could actually put people to sleep with the sleeperhold. Yeah.
I mean I tried pretty hard. Yeah, you know, I
had my mate and a sleephold as long as I could,
and he was still away.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:48:36):
No, No, there's no way you could, because I actually
think we weren't either we weren't doing it right, or
we weren't strong enough actually do that. And I think
a lot of the time they weren't actually put to
sleep in the ring anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
So yeah, it was a real It wasn't a real thing.
Bruce above and Beefcake also the other thing that I was,
even as a cat. I'll be like Bruce above Beefcake,
he's put someone to sleep. He's got his chers out
to cut their hair, and he'd cut the smallest amount
of hereofter, just cut a little bits of like cut
the guy's whole ponytail off and shave it off.

Speaker 24 (01:49:07):
Yeah, because he had did those giant ships. Then he
just brought out really really small little you know, snips,
and it's like, why don't you use.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
The Yeah, you've come out with the shears and then
you get these little snips with the cutting of the heir.
But it was essentially I can't never understand that.

Speaker 24 (01:49:21):
It was like and they had great hair in the agies.

Speaker 26 (01:49:23):
You could have taken a lot off.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
You could have taken a lot off revishing Rick Rude,
that's for sure.

Speaker 26 (01:49:28):
Yeah you could have.

Speaker 24 (01:49:30):
You could have yeah, yeah, but great ara of that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
Well, it was a fantastic ear. So that was that
was that was the best era for you. Did you
continue to follow it, follow it on into the you.

Speaker 24 (01:49:39):
Know, no, no, I pretty much stuff after the sort
of ninety two ninety three, I sort of I didn't
follow into Stone Cold and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Yeah, yeah, in the Rock and then you know onto
John Cena the Undertaker era, which for about two decades.
But yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 24 (01:49:55):
Yeah, so I just I was just in that in
that sort of late nineties period.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
Really, yeah, we'll thank so much for you call Steve
Bruce back in the seventies. Yeah, mate, you used to
work with King Curtis State.

Speaker 20 (01:50:09):
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:50:10):
The funny thing was we used to go to the
y m c A On a Tuesday night and watch
them beat the hell out of each other. And then
the next morning there'd be Ernie Leonard and some of
those guys sitting having breakfast together. And I could never understand.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
How they could forgive each other.

Speaker 23 (01:50:29):
Well, yeah, over ninth you know, they'd big blood and
all sorts of things carrying on, and the next morning
here they are sitting having breakfast, and King Curtis had
his family down and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
It's funny, Yeah, it's funny to think of those you know,
the you know, the the bodies that the likes of
King Curtis were running. They were. They were quite portly gentlemen,
weren't they They were.

Speaker 23 (01:50:50):
Andy had all those scars across his forehead, but I
believed that they were surgically put on right, they were cut. Yeah,
so I don't really know. I was scared to ask him.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
I love that idea of just a little boy going,
I don't get it, I don't get it. How can
each other? How can they be free?

Speaker 13 (01:51:06):
Him?

Speaker 23 (01:51:06):
Well, yeah, yeah, I suppose I'll be fifteen or sixteen
back then, and it was just yeah, how why.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Thanks so much for call for your call Bruce, Julia, Julie, how's.

Speaker 32 (01:51:18):
It going, Juley, A good afternoon and what a good program.
I didn't like the latter years of the wrestling, but
the early years. My association is with Errol Shean. He
called himself Doctor Death and he was a monster of
a man. And he actually went to the state and

(01:51:40):
he brought back with his pride money. He went over there,
he brought back an international trendstar truck. He called it
the White Lady, and it was the only one in
the country.

Speaker 33 (01:51:51):
But he regularly visited us at Paraparam produce me. I've
got a bit of a frog in my throat.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Were you inside at Paraparam or you lived there?

Speaker 33 (01:52:01):
I lived in Paraperam. We had a garden center down there.
But Errol used to pull up outside in and my father,
my father rang excuse me one minute, oh damn heck,
and I wasn't swearing. He dared rang us at the
garden center and he said, there's this great big man

(01:52:23):
has come into the kitchen and he's in the fridge
eating the ham. And I don't think I can throw
him out, he said, yep, yeah, so yeah, so Errol
Errol she and doctor Death he was. He was the
one that we followed a lot over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
There was a there was another doctor Death in the
w W. There was doctor Death Steve Williams as well
many years later in the two in the two thousands.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
Yeah, uh, so many texts have come through about the
good old days of w W E. I think we
got time for Mark just before we had to play
some messages.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
Mark, welcome with the show. Your thoughts on on wrestling?

Speaker 34 (01:53:05):
Yeah, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
So?

Speaker 34 (01:53:06):
I used to grow up as a young kid and
the attitude era, so the right, Stone Cold and triple
each and all that and and back then I probably
thought it was all real. And then I grew up
and got out of it. And then just a couple
of years ago, I had a good friend I went
to school with who said I found out he was
still watching it now, and I thought, really, I got
that stuff was for kids. But I got back into it,

(01:53:27):
and I tell you, for the last four years, I
just religiously every week. I absolutely love it. It's my
Shortland Street. It's a soap opera, that's what it is, So.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
You're watching it on Netflix, because I always say it's
quite high up on the chats on Netflix.

Speaker 34 (01:53:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's all on Netflix now. It's fantastic. Watched
Ross smack Down every week and you know, it's just
a it's a Coronation Street. I watch it for the
storylines more than anything else, and it's a fantastic I
love it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
That's what people will never understand that we knew what's
going on, but the storylines were so, so very very
very good. Hey, any memories of Hulk Hogan? Would that?
Was that for your time?

Speaker 9 (01:54:04):
No?

Speaker 34 (01:54:04):
I have some memories of hul Hogan. And you know,
he's appeared in a number of differ organizations three year,
a little bit in TNA, and he shot up in
the WWE in the last few years. And the reality
is it wouldn't be the fatter the monster that it
has known without him.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Absolutely don't.

Speaker 34 (01:54:21):
I don't really agree with some of his sort of
personal political views of the last few years. He's been
quite controversial, but there's no doubt that he was the first,
the first real superstar and professional wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 8 (01:54:34):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
What We've got thousands of thousands of teens full lines.
But unfortunately we're out of time, so you know, rip yeah,
Hulk Hogan, you know I'll be a whole hulk amaniac forever.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Nicely said, mate, what an absolute legend, right? It is
seven to two four, beg very shortly. You're listening to
Matt and Tyler the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between.

Speaker 7 (01:54:58):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons used talks, they'd.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Be five two four. Yeah, well what an hour. It's pain.
Thank you so much for listening to the show. We've
love talking to everyone all week, loved all your texts
and phone calls. But one persons stands out in particular.
Who is our caller of the week? Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
We had a great discussion about big fashion houses using
cheap labour, but we had a great call from Rachel.
She owned a garment factory here in New Zealand. We
loved her enthusiasm and passion.

Speaker 35 (01:55:26):
We have Rachel Mills, which is the name of our brand.
We do kind of lots of Marino T shirts, kind
of just every day pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
How are you going?

Speaker 35 (01:55:33):
This year in particular has probably been the hardest We've
seen a big hat and there's so many other things
that had come into play in the last two to
three years. Been a very funny past kind of twelve
months for us, But it feels like it's on its
way back up now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Keep fighting the good fight and look, I won't compliment
what you're selling because I imagine that might put people
off because I'm not known for my fantastic fashion taste.

Speaker 35 (01:55:54):
Oh you're not good in a pair of brief she
was lovely.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
You would look good in a pair of brief seat,
So what's her business? Rachel Mills dot co dot MZ
go and support her.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Yeah, we got great great New Zealand are doing great
things and manufacturing here in New Zealand. The full show
podcast will be out and about hour if you missed
our chats on an Assie saying Wellington is rubbish and
the life of Hulkgan actually well, an hour long celebration
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description of it. Follow our podcast wherever you get your podcast.
But right now I'm gonna bodyslam Tyler, but a clitch.

Speaker 7 (01:56:26):
What you've got to do?

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
Brother?

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
When the biggest Hams in the world come down.

Speaker 4 (01:56:30):
On you brother.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Yes, Maddie love that. Thank you very much. Give a
toast to keeping

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