Full Show Podcast: 25 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello are you great New Zealanders And welcome to the
Matt and Tyler ZIBI Afternoons podcast. For Friday, the twenty.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Third, fifth firsth Friday, it was hit it a long weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Vehicles on beaches, that's right. Yeah, that got a bit heated,
the vehicles on beaches. I was all for them.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
You talked a lot about Jim Buggies ecually, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Anymore. I think Jim Buggies was the thing when I
was a kid. Also, we talked, Yeah, plow through the dotterals,
I say. But also we got deep into junk food.
You say, hide it away, ban or advertising. I say,
it's up to you to decide whether you is Slammer
Burger or not. And then the final hour, great stories
about hairy plane landings in New Zealand and around the world.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
A couple of airports in New Zealand and the top
fifteen scariest landings in the world, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We get a great call from a guy who landed
in Nepal. Yeah, and a woman that landed in an
airport in New Zealand and the lights were down so
they had to get the tractors out to bring around.
She was saving a twenty six month old babba.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So lots lots for everyone to enjoy. Plus we announced
the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
And we also had topical tunes.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, and it was a great show. But I'm thirsty
years so let's go and get a beer.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeap too, right, see you next week?

Speaker 5 (01:40):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Then talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and
Tyler Adams Afternoons. You for twenty twenty four news talk Zibby.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, get a Welcome to Friday Matt and Tyler with
you until four pm.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Ghetto Maddie gooday, Tyler gooday. Everyone. Now I'm feeling amazing.
Do you know what'll give you an incredibly good sleep? Well,
a power cut?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
A power cut.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Power was cut on my street last night. I'm not
sure why, but there was no long anywhere, and I
could feel that I was sleeping really really well. And
then I woke up at five thirty am and it
was still so dark everywhere, and I was just the
absolute lack of light. So now for my sleeping, I'm
going to turn off every single light I possibly can,

(02:25):
even like a little blue one that's on a charger.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Lanes power every night. Just cut met his power.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Seriously, if you'll thank you for it. It gives you
a deep sleep, no electricity buzzing around at all, a
deep sleep. But I'm not sure if it was related
to my power cup. But this morning, when I was
driving to work, I saw something really cool. The lights
were down and you had one of those cops that
was doing the signaling throw.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I love when that happens those guys. Those guys are
calling today. They are talented.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
They must be rearing to go. I'd love to know
from cops whether they're all trained to do that or
is a special guy that goes out. But this guy
that was on the corner of Ky and Ponsonby.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Had his hand signals down pat.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
He was a pro.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
He was doing the old go.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I wonder if we just got rid of traffic lights
and just paid people to do that at natural human
and at every major intersection, whether we would just rip
people through.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's a beautiful, beautiful thing to watch. It's almost like
a dance, isn't it like, oh, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it's aggressive as well as you felt when he
points it. You can't wait, you feel specially points at
you and there's no there's no mucking around, no mucking
around in no way that you could be confused at
what you're supposed to do. Those are those people. They're
the best of us.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Big shout out to that police officer.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
What's the official term for it, like traffic go man,
a traffic hand point guy. Let's go with that traffic
directions dude.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
But shout out to that man. He is the backbone
of New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You're the best of us.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah. After three o'clock, because it is Friday, we're going
to finish up with our topical tune. So this is
where myself and Matt each peck of song related to
what we think is the topic of the week. I
want to the topic that I've gone for this week,
Crown Observer, Wellington City Council.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, how exciting, Tyler. I'm going for our excelsior New
Zealand sporting success.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Of course you are course, you are absolute chee And
of course after three o'clock we do have our New
Zealander over the week.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, that's right. We name a person that's had an
outsized effect on the news this week. Can't wait for
New Zealand of the Week. We're also going to talk
about New Zealand's craziest places to land. New Zealand is
a crazy place to fly in general, got weather all
over the shop. But what is the roughest place to land?
Pilots have had their say, but what do you say? Yeah,
I've had some hairy ones into Napier's, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
And spoil spoiler alert. A lot of people say Wellington,
Wellington is up there, but she's not the worst.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I've talked to pilots and they say, Alicia, you kind
of know what you're going to get in Wellington. Apparently
landing in Dunedin at Pemmonia Airport can be a bit
of an issue as well.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Hey, just quickly, a lot of people were texched in
and about your police officer at the traffic lights. Apparently
he's a pointsman. Points man, points judy. I like that, yeah,
points sauty, points man, Thank you very much. Right after
two o'clock, there's been a lot of excitement over this
Grimace shake that McDonald's have been offering around the world.
It has come to New Zealand and kids are going
crazy for it. It's the latest trend. But we have

(05:26):
heard from a few parents who are quiteigh rates at
McDonald's that this is getting marketed everywhere. They get in
a lot of pressure from their children to buy these
shapes that are full of sugar, and they say no more.
McDonald's take some responsibility.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, So the question is is it the responsibility of
the sellers of products and the world in general to
not put up temptations for your kids and yourself or
is it your responsibility as a parent to teach your
kids to deal with temptation and make the rules for
your kids, and deal with temptation for yourself, because in
my opinion, there's temptations everywhere. You're not going to remove
temptations from the world, but you can create people and

(06:00):
become a person who can make choices for themselves.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well, you know, I like sitting on a fence.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You love it?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, yeah, from sitting on there for.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
One thing, The one thing that you're passionate about is
sitting on a fence.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
But I think, yes, our parents have to have a responsibility.
But also, you know, I mean, this is a big
thing in sports grounds, right, You've got without naming that, No,
I am going to name names. Kentucky Fried Chicken Mac
has given out vouchers to children playing soccer. You know
that's a big thing. I mean, is that a little
bit cheeky? I say it is cheeky. That is cheeky.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think it's fantastic getting a bit of mach is
on the way home from playing footy. I think you
reward your kids with post sport, with pizza, a pizza party,
or a burger on the way home. I think levels
of sodium I mean agrease. Yeah, well you go, you've
earned it. You've earned it by doing some physical exercise.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's going to be a good jet after two o'clock.
But right now, we want to talk about vehicles on beaches.
So a group set up to ease tensions over access
to a popular Hawks Bay beach has proposed permanently banning
most vehicles and requiring permits for the two vehicle types
that would be allowed. So a summer band for vehicles
begins again today under a new by law along a

(07:11):
one case strap of why Martamar Beach near the township
with Hastings District Council voting to extend it from Labor
weekend to Labor weekend to April thirty next year. So
this is controversial on Hawk's Bay, but we want to
extend it to beaches around New Zealand. It is a
big thing. It upsets a lot of people, both sides
of the argument where the vehicles should be allowed on

(07:33):
Kiwi beaches or not. It is a lot of people
would say it's a bit of a Kiwiana thing, you know,
getting down the old quad bike, the motorbike, the yute.
And I'm not talking about driving the ute down to
launch the boat. That's a different scenario. There are boat
launches for that. I'm talking about the hoons.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
And so you're anti people that are driving cars and
vehicles on beaches for the fun of driving them, as
opposed to practically. Obviously we're not going to hassle life
savers for driving on beaches. But you don't like people
hooning around on the beaches for fun. But there's so
many different types of beaches. I mean, go whooping around

(08:12):
takapoona beach, then on for fun on a in your ranger,
then that's that's one thing. But I mean there's so
many different types of beaches in New Zealand. We've got
hundreds and hundreds of different types of beaches. There's some
beaches where you'd be lucky to see someone walking past
in a six month period.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, but I love that. That's a case in point.
Thank you. New Brighton Beach. It's a big beach, right
long stretch and most people are down by the pier.
That's where people like to sunbathe and surf. But when
I was living down in christ Church, I like to
go to the back beach because it was nice and
peaceful and there were bugger all people down there and
these homes on their motorbike just disturbing my peace and quiet.

(08:48):
Why are they allowed to rip it up? And because
there are on motorbikes, I'm the only one there, they
treat me as a bit of a hazard that they
start doing doweies around me and the dog. I don't
like that.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, what about you ruining the fun of the people
that want to hone around on the beaches by getting
in their way dropping diesel all over the beach. There's
lots of beaches where you can you can strip off.
Tyler and do your sunbathing, But there's other beaches where
people can whip around. I mean June buggies. I had
some fun and June buggies in my time when I
was growing up.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
How the heck did you have a June buggy as
a kid? Who has a June buggy as a kid?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
A friend's dad had a June buggy?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you're rude, dad bag real fast.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Just do people still have June buggies?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
June buggy? You love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
About monkst people still have them?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, the quad bikes. We did actually have a quad
bike at the family batch. We don't have it anymore,
but it was Impack of War on Golden Bay and
you're allowed to ride the quad bikes there. So yeah,
hand on heart. I have done it in the past,
but I don't know if it was a good thing.
So love to hear from you on this vehicles on beaches.
It is controversial around the country. Do you think there
should be a permanent band for most of the beaches

(09:48):
where people like to somebathe bring their kids down or
is it just part of New Zealand life that you
can get a few doies on the on the doom
bike on the beach. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Nine two nine two
is the text number. It is a quarter past one.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
The big stories, the big issues, the big tread and
everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you
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Speaker 3 (10:16):
It'd be how do we feel about vehicles on beaches
around New Zealand. At the moment it's kicking off in
the Hawk's Bay. They have had a band on the
popular beach why Martamo Beach just outside the township, and
now they want to make it permanent. So it is
causing quite a bit of controversy.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, but it all depends on the beach, doesn't it.
Blasting over sand dunes and the bush and beach and
a four by four buggy, that's a that's a that's
a very good time. You don't want to take that
away from people. I mean, this place is it's different beaches,
isn't it. Obviously ninety mile Beach go for it in parts?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
What about the poor old birds nesting in the dunes?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
The do don't like a don right, everyone loves a Dottal.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Is the number to call. Peter, how do you feel
about vehicles on beaches?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, it spoils the experience generally, And it doesn't matter
whether they're in the city with someone that and you're
the exhaust or on the bench and and and driving
courteously and having you know, all respectful, whether it's a
dog or animal one driving a vehicle, all the human

(11:24):
animal on the beach.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So, Peter, would you be okay with people blasting up
and down beaches and evs that make no sound?

Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Sure, that would be the last time they ever did
in an EV, you know, but a salt salt water
on the Tesla and goodbye test.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know there's way less moving parts. Probably you'd probably
be all right. But then again, I mean that that's
another thing. It's one thing having someone whipping down the
beach and an isolated beach at you and hearing them coming.
There's another thing. You Tyler there and his speedo sunbathing
and not even hearing the car coming.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
Yeah, well that's true.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
You gain the order of cyber truck when they come
to New Day.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah. I would feel humiliated driving around in a lab aduck.
I think they're kind of cool. But yeah, I could
never drive in a vehicle that everyone's looking at, steering
at ugly. I mean they'rele I like them. They're like
a minecraft vehicle. But let's not get into the cyber
truck debate.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Thank you very much, Peter.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well let's get into the cyber I'm happy to have
any debated on.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Being vehicles on beaches. Is it just part of Kiwi
life or no more?

Speaker 9 (12:28):
You got to have them back in your muta to
the pop the couch on the back in the line now.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
But you seem like a responsible vehicle owner that you know,
you're not doing dewies around the families having a Sunday there.
You're just you're just parking it to the beach and
watching a nice sunset, maybe a couple of bivis and
not causing anybody any problems.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
Yeah, now, may you know, maybe fifteen years ago a
different story.

Speaker 8 (12:54):
But yeah, but you're you're.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Talking about You're talking about southern beaches though, and you
know I've been. I've been camping and holiday and a
lot of Southern beaches because I'm from down that way
and it's a very different thing. I mean, you can
be on a beach that you will not see anyone
in an entire day. You can there's some beaches in
the Catalans you can look ten k in either direction
and there's going to be no other human being there,
So you can you can have a bit of fun

(13:18):
and a dune buggy if you haven't have one down there.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Can you get done worth speeding on a beach? I
suppose not, because it's not a public road right you
can just do as you can go as fast as
you want.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
There was some speed limits. I think there's a speed
limit on ninety mile beach, isn't there. Yeah, it'd be
interesting to notice someone know the answer to that eight
hundred and eighty eighty.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
What beach do you go do down in Southland?

Speaker 9 (13:36):
beIN when we got holidays down there, probably around already
beach and just out of the cargo, you know, I
think they they're the fastest indy in on there and
stuff like that. Beautiful beach, great excess. You know everyone
goes down there in those doies. But you know, as
long as they're not up in the sand dunes and
they're away from Eally, I don't even issue with it.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
On you what about and there's been some problems in
North Canterbury with the four wheel drive community driving on
the river beards. Again, it is a bird situation. The
birds are nesting in the river beards, but they rip
those river beds to shreds. Is that different for you, Ben,
when they when they're chewing up those river beds and
causing absolute anarchy as some of them do. Is does
that go too far for you?

Speaker 9 (14:20):
Well, you don't buy a full wheel drive for nothing,
but yeah, well, I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
If you get a full wheel drive, I ta take
it up the mountains.

Speaker 10 (14:29):
Well.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
To be fair, Ben, I did drive it. I did
buy a full wheel drive when I was sitting in Aukland.
I had to get rid of it after I realized
I hadn't put it into full wheel drive in two years.
There would be more credibility. I'd rip through some river
beds than just driving to come and drop off the kits.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Ben, you're a good man, Thank you very much. Well,
so Ben sees down in South Lynd. It's okay as
long as you've been courteous. And that's the point that
when I've seen them down in North New Brighton and
they weren't complete tickeeads but pretty close to it that
they were. They saw me as a bit of fun that,
oh here's a bit of a hazard on the beach
that we can, you know, do some doies around and
get a little bit close to it.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Unless that's plainting. The switches say your sunbathing by yourself, yes,
speedo and they're doing donuts around you. Yeah, well that's egregious.
Let's do that to someone.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, and they keep yelling at me and saying why
you wear in speedo's you wear?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, that's very different from someone whipping down a beach.
It's an isolated beach. Eighty ten eighty. How do you
feel about vehicles on beaches? It's kicked off in Hawk's Bay.
They want to make a permanent ban. Is that what
we need to do for several beaches around the country.
Love to hear from you. Nine to two nine too
is the text number.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's twenty three past one.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 11 (15:43):
Social investment Minister Nicola Willis is with us. To my eye,
it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel. I mean,
what is social investment, what specifically is it and what changes.

Speaker 12 (15:52):
Well you think about basic concept. Everyone in New Zealand agrees,
Let's not have an ambulance to the bottom of the close.

Speaker 13 (15:58):
Let's build things.

Speaker 12 (15:59):
That's what social investment's about. It's about proper prevention and
proper early intervention so that people don't go on to
lead life of crime, wealthy, dependency, under achievement, cleaning all
of that up and being much more postical about what
we invested them and whether it's working.

Speaker 11 (16:16):
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Speaker 3 (16:22):
It is twenty five past one. I think we're both
laughing at this tixt that's just come through us and
that dudes, I think the discussion needs to be around
the legitimacy wearing speedo's at the beach.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, because Tyler was fundating in a speedo and what
was it? What were these hermits?

Speaker 14 (16:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I put on a few pounds and when I bought
those speed ohs. Yeah, they're pretty tight, but you know,
they just feel good.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
And what kind of vehicle was doing donuts around you?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It was a motorbike?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, all right, Yeah, I got getting on. I think
you attracted the motorbikes like a moth to a flame
with that speed out. Hey, the question you were asking before,
Tyler was, you know, what are the rules on beaches?
If you're driving on a beach with permission, you should
behave as though you're driving the roads. All beaches are
considered roads under new Zen law. This means you must
tobay the speed limits, were seat belts, and stay below
the legal alcohol limit. A right.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Interesting, You know that is good to know. How do
you feel about vehicles on beaches?

Speaker 15 (17:11):
Vehicles and sand dunes don't go together.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's fine.

Speaker 15 (17:17):
It's it's time of memorial that's the festosterone, isn't it. Yeah,
it's really bad because one vehicle with a single canpart
single paths like over a sand june, can destroy plants
that keep the sand dunes strong, and they kill kill
native birds and ruin the environment and their nests.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I mean, yeah, but I mean but there's there's places
to do it in places not to do it. If
there's no birds that we really care about there and
you just want to whip around and you're in some
isolated zone, I.

Speaker 15 (17:52):
Know you're deliberately being provocatives.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I'm not there's a hierarchy of native bird that Met's
got in his head. And I don't know if you
like the dotal I love the I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Not suggesting the words that you that you plow through
some dotterals. That's not what I'm suggesting, or a yellow
eyed pigman colony. But I'm saying that there's different places
in this country. We've got a huge amount of coastline
and a huge amount of beach area that some of
it there's not much going on, and the dunes are
changing a lot through through the seasons and through through
what's going on, So there are places where you can

(18:23):
have a bit of fun.

Speaker 15 (18:24):
Louise, Yeah, well that's a very generalistic. That's very generalistic approach.
I think people need to be aware of the importance
of junes to beaches nowadays particularly, I mean it's a
coastal environment and if you have one person thinks, oh yeah,
just going to have a bit of fun, people aren't

(18:45):
educated about it. And got on those people at ony
Mata mart you know, going for that band because it's.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Good for it. What I get annoyed about, Louise, and
I think because it's not so much for me. The
vehicles on beaches as long as you're courteous and as
you say, you're not chewing through sand dunes and you're
leaving the poor birds alone. But unfortunately, this is my
impression that a lot of people that get vehicles on
beaches are dickheads. They take they take the milk, and

(19:17):
it's those bad apples that ruin it for everybody.

Speaker 15 (19:19):
Well, absolutely one, you'll bang on. Sorry, sorry. The mere
fact that this issue has arisen means that what you've said, Tyler,
the heads are not actually obeying the rules.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well yeah, okay, Well there's always going to people that
don't obey the rules. But if there were areas, if
there are areas that that that no one really, no
one has a vested interest in, there's no punishing dottrials
that we need to save, then I think areas where
people can have fun. Fun in life is a very
important thing, and it is fun cruising around beaches and cars,
and it's a very different thing, different types of beaches,

(19:57):
different types of places. Hey, yeah, I've got a question
for you, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Just Louise, thank you very much for your phone called
really tease.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, so, how much total coastline do you think there
is in New Zealand. I'll give you three options. A
ten thousand kilometers, b fifteen thousand kilometers or see thirty
thousand kilometers total coastline in New Zealand nineteen nine two.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
What was the metal option again?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Fifteen thousand?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
I want to go ten.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, yep, all right.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
If you think you know nine two nine two, how
much coastline do we have in New Zealand? It is
bang on one point thirty.

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(21:37):
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Speaker 3 (21:51):
Thank you, Raylean and we are talking about vehicles on
beaches hawks Bay. Well, a group in hawks Bay won
a permanent ban on why Martemar Beach. But it is
controversial around New Zealand vehicles on beaches, even beaches where
people wouldn't so much sunbathe But a lot of con
from environmentalists about the sand dunes and the Dotterals. Matt Heath,

(22:12):
you're not a big fan of keep coming back to
the Dodals.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You're very Dotteral focused. I think in the right areas,
wrap it up. That's what I believe. People. You know
there's places that you can have fun.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I can see you putting that on your Ford Ranger.
Brt it up in the right areas.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
With a picture of a dotteral like the Ghostbusters symbol
through the Dotteral. So I undred and eighty ten eighty
on that top act before the news headlines, I asked,
what's the total coastline of New Zealand ten thousand kilometers,
fifteen thousand kilometers or thirty thousand kilometers? So many people
texting in thirty thousand kilometers, including someone saying, come on, guys,
it's clearly thirty thousand kilometers. Know, the coastlines of New

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Zealand total about fifteen thousand kilometers in length. That's about
one third of the Australian coastline. And of course there's
a variety of beaches and coastal landforms all represented on
their on our coastline, including ones that are fun to
whip around in a vehicle.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well, how much of that fifteen thousand drive on it
if you want?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, yes, not a Tyler Sunbury, Linda.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
How are you hey you Linda. Look, we've lost Linda.
I think she wanted to talk about your sleep.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
There we are, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (23:27):
Yeah, you're there. Yeah yeah, okay. Hell.

Speaker 16 (23:30):
Just as an aside from what I'm really bringing for,
it's improved scientifically that if there's even a tiny little
red light on or something like that in a bedroom,
like your alarm clock or something, your brain will.

Speaker 13 (23:45):
Automatically register that the light on. So that's where.

Speaker 16 (23:49):
You can't go into that deep rim sleep. You're at
that little, tiny, tiny line. You have to make sure
your bedroom everything is in darkness, like an old fashioned
alarm clock.

Speaker 13 (24:00):
So there's there's no lights.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Well, that's because people that went listening before I was
saying that there was a power cut on my street
last night and I just had that absolute best sleep.
So you actually need to need to go around and
put a little bit of tape even on your charger
that's got a little blue light or any of those
little lights. Because you're saying, Linda, your brain, even though
you kind of sleep, is still registering something that's kind
of keeping it weight and keeping it the deep sleep.

Speaker 16 (24:23):
It's still register as that there's a light somewhere in
the room and it doesn't let you go into that
deep sleep.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's good, ter On. We need to talk about blackout curtains.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I just got back out Kurden from my room recently,
so this is why this totally works.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
When we do it after three o'clock, we might just
chuck that into the Blackout curtains are an absolute game changer.
I certainly are. Now, Linda, let's bring it back to vehicles.

Speaker 16 (24:43):
Okay, the beach is okay. I'm walking along the beach
at the moment, and I'm watching sixteen swans having a
wonderful time.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
Beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 16 (24:53):
Now, this is an ordinary neighborhood beach. I am totally
against any vehicles on any beach, any beach anywhere anywhere.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I mean, of course lightsabers and people getting their boats
into the water. All right.

Speaker 16 (25:09):
Oh yeah, Look when I used to when I was
a kid, when the dinosaurs roamed here, you could only
take a vehicle down the boat, ramp them back again.
Nowadays this they've turned into parking lots, these idiots roaring around.
These are places where people and families are supposed to

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go and have fun and enjoy nature and relax and
parents shouldn't have to be watching out for traffic.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
But Linda, what about what about people and families and
vehicles having fun?

Speaker 17 (25:43):
No, pet.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
You can't have petrol fun.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
On What about a beach? What about a beach in
the South Island, say the Catlin's or something, and there's
and there's no one in ten kilometres any direction? What
about then?

Speaker 13 (25:58):
Ah?

Speaker 16 (25:58):
Well maybe, but I tend to think that maybe it
should just be a winter thing. Or if you have
the four wheel drives, then you want to do that
kind of thing, you go somewhere out. So I mean, they're.

Speaker 13 (26:09):
Destroying our beaches.

Speaker 16 (26:10):
They're destroying the peace and quiet of.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Those He should you mind me asking what whereabouts? What
sort of area you're in? The beach that you're walking
along with your sixteenth ones?

Speaker 16 (26:22):
The one I'm on at the moment is Metakatia Beach,
but my local beach is Army Bay, and from my
house I can see in summer it just is a
party yard of cars.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Beautiful, Soakartia is that right?

Speaker 13 (26:40):
Metakatia?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Whereabouts?

Speaker 8 (26:42):
Is that?

Speaker 13 (26:43):
That is opposite Tindle's day?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Right? Beautiful?

Speaker 14 (26:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (26:50):
Really really nice, But but it wouldn't be really I
get really hot.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
That was beautifully done. Linda, is he actually just turned
it on you at the last minute. I don't even
need to be here, mat I mean, Linda, Louise, I
can just take a step out and let you guys
debate it out.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Come off from a prior road there. I just plow
through that field, get onto that.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Beach, Linda, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
The Swans would love it.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh man, Linda, thank you very much for your phone call.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love to hear
from you on this vehicles on beaches. Do we need
to have more beaches where we banned vehicles entirely? Or
is it, as Matt says, that's a bit of Kiwi
life and we can't ban funnel together.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Oh weight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
It is twenty one to two.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Have a chat with the boys on eight hundred eighty
and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four news Talk.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Said, be good afternoon. It is eighteen to two, Tim,
How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 18 (27:51):
Kay?

Speaker 19 (27:51):
Guys, Hey Tyler, I just want to drill down on
the isolated beach and you and your Speedos Budgie smugglers.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I prefer but yeah, yeah, carry on.

Speaker 19 (28:02):
Could you tell me did you have them on or
off at the time?

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Definitely on. It wasn't that sort of beach tim, You know,
even if when no one's around you and I don't
get into that sort of behavior.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean, is it much better? I mean that's just
the many.

Speaker 19 (28:15):
The many had set the scene. I've really declaimed my suspicions.
Are you trying to be a very good reason why
we have members of the public on beaches patrolling the
you and your speed Do you.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Think it was off duty police officers or something? Saying
I don't know about this?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, I mean I'm with you two. What's worse is
that people ripping up beaches and trow bikes? Or is
it people like Tyler whose sunbathe and espiedo? I mean,
what's the real damage? Can we get a speedo? Ben?

Speaker 19 (28:43):
I think we need the file drive community to keep
us safe from people from the budget smugglers and isolated beaches.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
For sure, it was it was actually it was vigilant justice.

Speaker 19 (28:54):
Do you like the fun and fact, gentleman?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (28:57):
It fact?

Speaker 19 (28:59):
How many killer meters of unsealed roads country roads Australia.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
In Australia, Oh, jeep is off the fifteenthound k's of
coastline and New Zealand. I'm going to say one hundred
and fifty thousand k's of unsealed road in Australia.

Speaker 19 (29:16):
Seven hundred and fifty thousand kilometers of unsealed highways.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Seven hundred and fifty thousand. That is incredible.

Speaker 20 (29:24):
That place is.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
How do you know that fun fact? Did you used
to it?

Speaker 19 (29:29):
I read it up because I was interested in all
that sort of four wheel driving over there. That's before
I became obsessed with young all so the middle aged
guys and isolated spots and yeah, a new interest to
follow that.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well, can I just offend you know why I was
doing it with nobody around is that nobody wants me
some bathing and my budget smugglers in a populated area.
So I thought I was actually helping out humanity there
by going to a place in the beach where there
was no one except these guys on motorbikes who had
a fascination with me.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
By myself, I'll tell you what'd be Yeah.

Speaker 17 (30:00):
A certain defensible Yeah I was defending right, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'll tell you what I we can some kind of
charity run or some kind of challenge for someone to
run all seven hundred and fifty thousand kilometers of unsealed
roads in unsealed highways in Australia.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
To run it, to run it Forrest Gump can't do
it in seven hundred and fifty thousand being how you doing?

Speaker 8 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah good.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
What's your take on vehicles on beaches.

Speaker 21 (30:30):
I think they should be allowed. I think we should
definitely respect the rules like row, but yeah, just don't
look it up and don't go no burnout and doughnuts
and stuff, because obviously that would just ruin it for
people that just want to drive down the beach, park up,
have a picnic, let the kids run around and the
dogs and then you know, call it a nice day.

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And especially if you want to go and launch your
boat or go fishing with your torpedo.

Speaker 19 (30:57):
The problem with.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
That, well, the thing is, I mean there's so many
different types of beaches. That's why, you know. I mean, yeah,
as I said before, I mean if you're wrapping up
and down at pace up Takapuna Beach where people someday
that's a different thing. But there's there's rural beaches, There's
there's there's beaches that that are people. No one's ever
going to be sunbathing on, No one's ever going to

(31:19):
be swimming at that. That that and there's no wildlife
that you need to protect, say, go for your life.

Speaker 21 (31:24):
Yeah exactly, Yeah, no, definitely. It would be pretty upsetting
as Mirrawai or Kraka get banned for driving on the beaches.
Especially awesome.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I agree with everything you said, Ben, but unfortunately, when
it comes to vehicles on beaches, there's a lot of
people who take the mike and are not courteous and
rip up the dunes and don't care about the Dotter
rules and the.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
But if everything in life is that we just make
rules around the worst people and and ban the good
people from having good times, and that's not a country
anyone wants to live in.

Speaker 21 (31:56):
No, absolutely little. But why don't we look at making
a fee on the beaches? Drives on there and you've
put a small fee on it.

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Register now we're talking about there.

Speaker 21 (32:06):
You do a small little tear that you know how
to drive on a beach where you can go to
spend and roll it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Me a permit afer meant to drive your vehicle on
a beach.

Speaker 21 (32:15):
That's all right, but a proper permit, one that you
actually probably pay for, not like now we just have
to register our trucks that we're going to dive on
that that doesn't really mean much.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Matt's not happy with that idea that I can see.
I mean, it's taken away as civil liberties to chew up,
sorry of John Well.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean it's been like the beaches in the in
the South Island where you you wouldn't be able to
find anyone to pay the permit and no one would
see you doing it anyway. There's just vast areas where
I don't think it's a it's a big deal to
have a bit of a bit of a.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Hone round whatever to the honesty box, you know, get
an honesty box at the beach.

Speaker 21 (32:50):
I definitely agree with the honesty, but I think that
definitely out the window today.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Ben, you're a good man. Thank you very much. A
quick quick text and then we'll get back to your cause. Guys,
what about five k or under on the beach and
if you go faster than that you need to have
an emergency clearance eg. Life savers with lights on from
SHANEO five k.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Is it possible for a vehicle to travel at five
kilometers now. I mean there's parts of Auckland that currently
have thirty kilometers at our speed limits. No one's ever
attempted to drive at thirty kilometers now.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, and it's kind of embarrassing when a jogger goes
past you as you're going thirty k and thinking I
can go faster than this.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I mean I think it'd be impressive impressive driving
if you can drive at five k.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Georgie, how you doing on this Friday?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Oh, Georgie, my favorite caller?

Speaker 17 (33:37):
Yes, yours?

Speaker 10 (33:38):
Yes, Tyler Budgie Smugglers. You should have Simon all about that.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Shouldn't Well? Yeah, I think he was a Budgie smuggler
model at one point. Wondn't they?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, he's got a great board and.

Speaker 22 (33:55):
Matt.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yes, how old are you, mem I'm I'm fifty years old.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, hard to believe, isn't it, Georgie?

Speaker 9 (34:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (34:08):
Twenty one?

Speaker 23 (34:12):
No, there is dos.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
Yes, you don't like them, but they're probably it's probably
a bit reciprocal. Well, the dods don't like Yeah, they
should get their little friends and getting up on you.

Speaker 18 (34:25):
That would help.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Do you know a seabird that you never miss with
as an oyster catcher, They'll go for you. Yeah, don't
muck around with oyster catchers. If you get too close
to the nest, they'll go for you.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Look, it's it's like, I don't have anything particularly personal
against dotterals. I just don't think that every decision we
make in our lives should be paced around dottererals. I
think I'm a human first Georgia, Georgia, I'm a human.
I'm a human first person. So like, let's let's let's
let's be nice to the dottererals. But if it if

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it stops humans from having fun, then I'm always gonna
I'm always going to err on the side of humans
over over any other beast.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
But just to Georgie's point of it's their home, what
if dotterals just stormed into your place instead.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Everywhere your garden.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Well, I've differently had I've definitely been had standover technics
from seagulls before in my house.

Speaker 24 (35:13):
Yeah, they're a bit of a problem there home as well.

Speaker 10 (35:16):
On the on the beach, isn't that Georgie?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Thank you very much, Always lovely to chat. It is
eleven minutes to two.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on Tyler Adams Afternoons
News Talk.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Good afternoon. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. We're talking
about vehicles on beaches. Welcome John to the show. You
are supportive of vehicles on beaches.

Speaker 18 (35:45):
Yep, Yeah, I'm very supportivele of it, been doing this
for many years and fall drives. What I am opposed
to is these limp wristed communists that want to trample
on everybody else's freedom of movement.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I like your style.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
You're talking about Tyler there and so and so what
we're so you're you're part of a four wheel drive
club or you just amateur four driver, not that you
have to be a professional world drive to be in
a club. Are you out there on the weekends and
whereabouts are you're doing it?

Speaker 18 (36:14):
John, A longtime full drive. I'm not in a club.
I've had associations with them, but no, I just want
to keep these places open, not just beaches, but riverbanks
and roads that go into the forests and stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Now, George, John, this is good because you seem like
a courteous, sensible four wheel driver that you're in the
club and you have the club. Oh you're not in
the club, but you have fun out there. But I mean,
what part of the country are you in?

Speaker 18 (36:44):
Well, at the moment, I'm in the horror all right.
That is the o'how ho kyo Waiterrian Fox and beaches
quite a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Do you see any of the the younger guys down there.
And I'm targeting these fellers who just get a little
bit reckless on.

Speaker 18 (37:03):
The river Occasionally occasionally you see them doing donuts on
the beaches and stuff, but they've usually got as far
away from the surf lie saving area as they possibly
can and they just do a few donuts and eventually
get their vehicle bogged in the soft part of the sand. Yeah, yeah,

(37:23):
but you know, I thought this was Counsels. We had
this environmentalist started going nuts over the last thirty years
and closing everything and trying to turn it into a
nice little walking park so that people can just struggle
along and throw their lunch rappers and lolly rappers everywhere
and drink bottles. They're just as bad as anybody, really.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, that's a good point. Litterally is on the beach.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
This is the country of Crumpy and Scottie and the
Toyota highlucks, add blasting around, going through, going through streams,
muddy banks, over junes in the martin in the rain.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I don't remember how to do any donuts. Maybe a
few got a wheel, Yeah, you got a wheel going
to the Crumpy No, yeah they got stuck though, No
Crumpy was a good time on the highlights. It wastt Yeah,
Scotty was freaking out. Scotty wasn't having it. Thank you
very much, John, and we've got another John here, get
a mate.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
You're good.

Speaker 25 (38:23):
I think some beaches have cars on them, and then
the other better be more than fine.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Ye.

Speaker 25 (38:32):
I live in Ortland and I think birthly that you
shouldn't have cars on it.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Shouldn't okay, ye shouldn't.

Speaker 26 (38:43):
Look.

Speaker 25 (38:44):
I don't want to say people shouldn't have fun and
all that for the stuff.

Speaker 19 (38:48):
But past the river mouth.

Speaker 25 (38:51):
You can't go walking. You couldn't got with your kids.
You couldn't because the chances of kids getting bold or
you your dog getting killed by some by driving out
the beach.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
And then's a fair point, doesn't it meant that you're
making the motorway. For example, that is a beach that
is populated by families it's a swimming beach. Can be
a bit dangerous, but you know that is a beach.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I wasn't advocating that people could just whip up and
down every beach Point Chief Beach on a Sunday morning,
doing donuts up and down there. Obviously I wouldn't support that.
And yeah, there's places for it, and this place is
not for it. Absolutely, and there's a lot of isolated
areas in New Zealand where it's perfect for just having
a little bit of fun in a vehicle.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, nice place to end it. Thank you very much
for giving us a buzz.

Speaker 23 (39:37):
John.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
It is four minutes to two after two o'clock. We
are going to be talking about this new grimmer shake.
A lot of parents upset with McDonald's with their mass
marketing to children. Just before we get there, though, the
South Island is first in line for wild and where
weather this long weekend. That is said, Met Service has
issued heavy rain and snow warnings that Inland, Canterbury and Otago.

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Heavy rain is also expected for Tasman west of Motaweka
and the Richmond and Bryant Ranges.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's going to be a.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Big chaotic this long weekend. Thank you. Very much for
joining us. Matt and Tyler with you until four pm.
It is three minutes to one. We'll see you on
the other side.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie
and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sevvy were.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Happy Friday to you. Welcome back into the show. Met
and Tyler with you until four pm. I hope you're
having a great Friday. Hit it a long weekends.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Sided about the long weekend. We're having a beer after
the show.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
We certainly are. We certainly are. It's Friday. I mean,
got a many people here. I've got to say we
you know, far be it from me to say, but
we're the backbones of New Zealand. And if you're working today,
you're the backbone as well. You are keeping up productivity
in this economy and it's needed out of.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Empty desks, so not many people on the roads. How
does that work? I don't know. But I have people
legitimately getting getting the day off or they work from
homers that are actually have actually left early and they're
not actually working from.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Home selfishly, you know, jumping on the motorway Aukland Motorway
it only took me ten minutes to get to work.
That was nice.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
But what does it mean for productivity across the nation? Tyler,
We've got up our productivity and everyone taking Friday, Saturday,
Sunday and Monday off.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
No more long weekends until twenty twenty six. No great
to have your company as always. And we're going to
change up the topic over the next hour or so.
We want to talk about the latest food trend that
kids are apparently loving or they're excited about anyway. It's
this Grimmer shake. So it's taken the world by store.
Maybe that's making it a bit too dramatic, but it's

(41:40):
been launched in many places and a lot of people
are very excited about this Grimmer Shake. It's made it
to New Zealand. But we have heard from a fear
few parents a bit grumpy at McDonald's and the marketing
ploy for this particular product. Their kids are pestering them
to take them to McDonald's for a grimmer shake, and
they are worried that this thing is full of sugar.

(42:01):
Of course it is. It's a milkshake.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, it's a purple berry flavored milkshakes combination of vanilla
soft serve and beery flavors. She sounds pretty good. You
can also get fruity pebbles and bubblegum flavor in there.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Have you tried the grimmer shake? Do you want to
try it?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I do want to try it sounds like good. I
don't actually consume that much sugar in my life. I've
sort of cut most of sugar. I've never had much
of a sweet tooth. But in fact, when I was
a kid, I'd demand savory cakes instead of sugary cakes.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
A savory man rather than a sweet man. Not a
big fan of chocolate. Actually, I'd go for a mince
and cheese pie for any day of the week.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I used to make my mum make me. I didn't
make my mum. I ass polite if my lovely mum
would make me a toad in the hole with candles
in it instead of a cake.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
What's toad in the hole?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Toad in the hole?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
It's saucy and mesh.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's like, oh boy, people will be excited about we
people out there, the toad in the whole. Fans will
be very excited hearing this. So it's basically like Yorkshire
putting with sausages in it so as it rises, the
sausages sit down in the holes.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
It's so just dry Yorkshire put you put gravy on it.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Oh, you can put gravy on it. Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Any mession there no mess, there, no mesh, no mesh
in there Saucy's and Yorkshire Port. That does sound pretty good.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Actually, Ah, toad in the hole right now, there's people
all over New Zealand salivating thinking about how delicious tone
in the Hole is. But we're not toad in the
whole chat.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, that sounds very good, but a lot of kids
think the Grimmer Shake sounds pretty good as well. But genuinely,
I think there are you know, there's a bit of
concern out there from parents about these trendy new foods
junk food that these corporations they are very clever at
marketing them directly to children, and that puts a lot
of pressure on parents. Do companies like McDonald's and we

(43:42):
don't just want to focus on the Grimmer Shake, But
this happens again and again with these new food trends
that hit social media. They're very crafty, aren't they. Corporations
are very crafty at marketing to children. Do you think
that goes too far, that.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
That's not specifically marketed at children. It's the Grimmer Shake,
I mean, as Grimace, something that kids a particularly interesting.
Now my generation, Grimace.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
He's coming back. I mean, look at Grimmas though purple.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Is it a new thing that there's an exciting sugary
drink out there that people like? I don't think it's
a new thing. I think it's There's always going to
be temptations out there, Tyler. There's always going to be
things that excite people and they want them. You've got
to decide whether you whether you follow those temptations. That's
up to you. And if you're a parent, then kids
are going to be putting their hands up and asking
for stuff. And that's what being a parent is. Being

(44:30):
a parent is teaching kids what what's good for them
and what's not good for them.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Well, let's have a chat to Lucretia, who isn't happy
about the new Grimmer Shake.

Speaker 7 (44:38):
Hey Lucretia, Hi, guys, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Thanks? Gon Of First, before we start, can say what
a fantastic name Lucretia is.

Speaker 27 (44:45):
Oh, thank you. It's a bit of a mouthful. I
get lu Luther short sometimes there's a great there's.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
A great song called Lucretia My Reflection by the Sisters
of Mercy.

Speaker 27 (44:54):
And I'm a singer myself, of course I'm very familiar
with that. Yep, with the Sisters of Mercy.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Great, fantastic. Now the Grimmer Shake. You're not happy about
the marketing to children with this particular.

Speaker 27 (45:06):
Product, No, I'm not a all started on Tuesday when
I picked up my son from school. In the car
the whole way home, I got a lot of questions
and can we please go to McDonald's. I'm pretty sure
the Grimace shakers just come in, And I said, look, look,
we can't do it now, but I'll ring up and
see if it is. And then I find out yesterday

(45:26):
that it has up to nineteen teaspoons of sugar in it. Yeah,
I think it's around seventeen anything between six hundred and
sixty calories up to twelve hundred and fifty just for
a milkshake. So once I learned this, I had a
talk to him yesterday and I broke the bad news
that I'm not happy for him to do this, and

(45:47):
he was pretty good about it, actually, considering because he
knows he's actually going through some Well I don't like
to say this, it's not easy for me, but he's
actually quite a lot of weight on the last couple
of years, which could be pre growth spurt stuff, which
I'm just hoping it is. That I'm getting a bit
concerned about it now, So as a parent, just like
the last man said, it is up to us to

(46:07):
be a response. So we've got to be so careful
not to body shame them. But I don't think we
should be so taboo about it either. We need to
be open about this because it's a health risk. It's
not about image, it's not about feeling unattractive. It's more
we've got to make sure that these kids are not
setting themselves up for early heart attacks and strokes and

(46:28):
other things that come with us. It's very concerning that
McDonald's are ending private emails and they're putting it right out.
They're using a fictional character that's been around, yes since
my generation as well, being in my forties to try
and entice kids to get that, going around hounding their parents,
being persistent and pulling out all all stops to try

(46:50):
and get one.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
But the creature.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Do you sound like a good parent, Because if you
point all those things out to a child, then that's
part of their education as they're growing up. And it
might not seem like it's getting through now. But if
you point out how much sugar is in something and
the risks of them, then isn't that being a great parent?
Isn't that isn't there to my absolute best?

Speaker 27 (47:13):
You know? But you know, no parents perfect And in
a lot of times I shouldn't. I shouldn't have given
him certain treats that I'm now I'm seeing. I thought, gosh,
we need to really make some changes here before the skips.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
It's a constant battle. I mean, that's being a parent
battle before we even get into digital, the battle with
digital device.

Speaker 27 (47:30):
He he'ts strong, aren't they? Harry Hits strong and persistent.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
It's amazing. It's amazing how powerful a small child can be.

Speaker 27 (47:37):
Yeah, oh my god, it's four of them.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, well that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
So something that something that the UK is going to
bring in next year. They are going to have a
ban on junk food adverts been shown on Tally before
nine o'clock at night. So that is going to come
into flaurs October next year. You'd be in favor of
something like that in New Zealand.

Speaker 27 (47:56):
Oh, definitely, we've got to do something because parents are
stressed enough. We've got so much to deal with and
you know, just to you know, I should be able
to drive, have a five minute drive home without having
someone in the back seat, you know, on the level
he was, you know, give me for something I know
is so unhealthy for him. I'm actually going to get
him to watch the sugar documentary that came out. It's

(48:16):
very cleverly done, it's got it's quite I'm not sure
if you've seen it, but it shows they children need
to learn the science behind the damage. And I think
if they actually did. More children saw this, then they'd
actually stop and think about it, because they're not They're
not unintelligent. These kids are quite smart. So often want
to step ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Well, you sound like a great mum, Lucretia, and thanks
for talking to us today. But that, I mean, what
I would say is that is there's so many temptations
out in the world. There always will be for for
kids and adults. I mean, their world is designed the world.
There's people out there that need to sell products and
they've got ways to do it. And we have to
select the products we do, and temptation is part of life.
So part of being a parent is teaching your kids

(48:55):
how to manage temptations, teaching them what's what you believe
is good and bad, and making them competent to face
the world when they leave you.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
So that's all well and good, But do you think
these fast food corporations have any responsibility to their customers
and providing they don't need to provide healthy food, but
not using tricky tactics to entice children to drag their
pearance into the restaurant.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
No, it's their job to try and sell their product.
That's that's their job. It's our job to decide what
we do with the stuff that's available to us, and
as parents, is our job to teach our kids what
we believe is right and wrong in this world.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
But then all this pilava about McDonald's caring whether your
kid plays soccer and you get a free voucher for
a cheeseburger and we want healthy kids and we support
local sport and we love our community, it's all nonsense hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Look that support of sport is very important, and if
you've got kids are out playing sport and they go
through the drive through on the way home. Then that
is that is a great thing. It's a great bonding exercise.
If you've been out playing a game of footy, then
you've probably ud yourself a little treat on the way home.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
You've got nothing against And I will name the company actually,
KFC sponsoring the Bunker and the NRL. You know, the
big eat a bucket while you wait for the Bunker
to make a call, and everyone's wearing the bucket.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Hats delicious.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Yeah, it's delicious, But it's kind of weird, isn't it
that you've got these phenomenal athletes on the field who
wouldn't have touched cavefry for about fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I bet they have.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Well yeah maybe, but then you've got you know, a
fast food. I get it. It's a treat, but it's
kind of just the juxtaposition in that is really strong.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
You can't hide people from temptation. There's temptations all over
this world. You can't. But what you can do is
teach people to manage their temptation. Because if it's not
that one, it's another one. It's all this and there's
much worse temptations out there than junk food obviously as
they go through life. So you know, you can't hide people.
You can't like we're just going to just black everything out,

(50:55):
oh eight hundred censorship on absolutely everything, so no one
sees anything bad.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Where do you sit
on this? Does government need to intervene like they are
in the UK to have some regulation over these advertisements
or are you with Matt. I've got to sell products
and if you're foolish.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Enough, this is a great text from Steve.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Okay, we'll read that out very shortly. Actually it is
seventeen bus too.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
You're a new home of Afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor
Adams Afternoon call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News
Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Good afternoon to you. It's twenty past two and we're
talking about the Grimmer's shake because it's everywhere at the moment.
It's the latest food trend in These pop up every
couple of months. But we're asking the question they've done
this over in the UK. Coming in October next year,
they are going to ban junk food advertising before nine pm.
Do we need to take a leaf out of the
UK's book and look at doing something similar here. Oh

(51:47):
one hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Well, good luck with that, because the biggest, one of
the biggest things online at the moment is the grimmer
shape memes. Have you seen those? Or kids will have
a grimmer shake and then and then something terrible happened.
I'll go, they'll go, we'll ever give a shake and
then the next thing you know, they're on the ground
and there's there's grimmer shake everywhere, or turns into a
blair Witch projey kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
They have a Grammars shake and then they start screaming.
So you know, you can, you can try and shut
down all the advertising you want, but the kids have
I mean that has been that is an organic thing
that's happened around it. Yeah, so that that's part of
the thing as well. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
If something gets picked up as a meme, there's no
stopping it at that point. Quick text and we'll get
to your phone calls. How about you two idiots stop
giving that purveyor of sugar and fat laden food any
more promotion promotion?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I tell you what, h how about how about we
continue doing exactly what we're doing right now, it's just
talking about it, or you're not going to talk about
things just in case, let's not talk about let's not
talk about the dangers of traffic just just because we're
giving promotion to to cars. It's that's that's sleep. That's
a silly thing. You can talk about anything you want.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
How do you feel about these corporations, specifically advertising to children.
Do you think it's a little bit, a little bit
too crafty, a little bit on the nose?

Speaker 23 (53:03):
Oh hi, Matte hi Tyler. Look, I think it is,
like Matt said, the job of selling their goods and everything.
And I'm you know, there's not much we can do
other than guide the kids. And all have good habits
and it's not about our looks, it's about our health.
And like that lady said, kids are pretty smart. And

(53:25):
when when you just teach them good habits, just get
into that. Once they learn the sink of good habits.
If they're eating, then you can have the odd junk
food and moderation. But they're in the control of the ship,
right And the other thing, I know this is going
to be right out of left field. I think we've

(53:48):
got to have a look. And you know, there's a
big elephant in the room here, and you know we've
got a lot on diabetes too, and all the other
health related problems related to diet and over eating, and
we're all too scared to say that someone is the
big horrible word. But I think when I look at

(54:12):
our politicians, and so many of our politicians are obasely overweight,
I think, you know, we're going to look and say,
what sort of message are they giving? And why aren't
they the ones as well that are making a big
heart of it. Why aren't they putting their hands up

(54:33):
and saying, hey, I am grossly overweight and I need
to reduce my weight so I can get healthy.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Well, yeah, I mean I think some of them have.
You know, we don't want to name names here because
you're right, it's a tricky conversation, but there are certainly
high profile people in New Zealand who have admitted they
were unhealthy and did things to get themselves healthier. And
I'm saying this as someone who you know, I'm certainly
not skinny, let's put it that way. So yeah, but
it is, I mean, it can be a sensitive topic

(55:03):
to have.

Speaker 21 (55:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I mean it's interesting when people are giving out health messages,
when you have people people that are that are telling
people to be healthy in certain ways, and you think
that definitely, if you're a health professional or a health educator,
that you should be leading the way when it comes
to being being fit because that's a really important thing.

(55:24):
But when you go back to these shakes and the
junk food, you can you can get overweight on a
lot of things. There's a lot of temptations out there
and if you if you have a problem with overeating,
then then you're going to find a way. You're going
to find something out there to eat. It's not that
the problem isn't the products. The problem is the or
the temptation. The problem is the you know, working working

(55:47):
it out for yourself, working out what you want to
do with your life, and working out on because you know,
overeating and there is an addiction around food that can
come in, but that's something you've got to work on,
like any addiction out there. It's the same as drug addiction.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Thanks to addiction. Well, just just on that point, if
we can all agree that we get bombarded by these
adverts every which way. Now it's on social media, it's
on tally, it's your kids are seeing it on the playground.
So we're getting bombarded by those messages and as you say,
you know that is part of the deal of a
corporation trying to shift their products. Then can we agree

(56:23):
that government has a responsibility to try and shift that
balance a little bit like the UK are doing. That
can be a role of government that if we're getting
bombarded by these messages that there, they've got some responsibility
to just try and shift that that wait a little
bit to make it a bit more balanced. So we
as citizens can do more healthy eating, can do the

(56:44):
right thing, can make better choices in our life.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
But hiding things doesn't make you make a better choice.
You've got doesn't face things head on. So if you have,
you just hied from your children that there's the existence
of foods that may be good for you, in foods
that maybe you want to have in moderation, you just
hide them and tell them they don't exist. They're going
to find out at some point and they're not going
to have the skills to deal with that. So your

(57:08):
job as a parent, and i'd say also as a
government is to educate rather than ban, and educate rather
than censor. So you know someone's going to find out
about a Grimmer's shake eventually you can.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Easy on it. When they do, you'll see to happen.
Kids they've seen never got told about McDonald's, and their
parents were adamant they're never going to find out about McDonald's.
Then they found out about it in high school and
they went crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
What do you find about the find out about the pancakes?
You can make it home.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It is twenty six
past two.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on news talk Z be.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Very good afternoon. We are talking about the latest food trend,
the grimmer Shake, where we have heard from a lot
of parents who are a bit upset with the marketing techniques.
They getting a lot of pressure from their kids. Is
that just part and parcel and it's parental responsibility or
do those corporations need to have a bit more responsibility
with who they market to and how they market to.

(58:12):
I say that on the Band N of the UK
they are going to introduce a ban on junk food
adverts before nine pm at night that comes into effect
next year. Do we need to do something similar?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I don't think so. I think you've got to got
to show people everything and then you've got to educate
them on it. And you can't hide people. You can't
hide people from the truth. There's always going to be
high calorie foods out there, There's always going to be
a lot of sugar floating around. But you've got to
teach your kids. You got to teach your kids what's
good and bad in your view. You've got to try
and hand down morals across the board, and one of

(58:44):
them might be that you don't smash a grimace shake
every day, but maybe it's okay every now and then.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Trevor, what's your take on this one?

Speaker 17 (58:51):
Hell you guys, hey, look on this matter. I think
Matt you what I mean, your approach to it is
entirely the way I'd look upon it. And I know
you with your sort of talking about being as being
named as children, but you mentioned professional sportsman. I'll tell
you what bit to the old bloody Warriors love going down.
They're having a Wendy's booger a couple of nights a week,

(59:13):
and you know quite opten. You'll hear RL plats when
they're interviewed. You know, on the way home, I stop
off at KFC and McDonald's.

Speaker 7 (59:21):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 17 (59:22):
So you know, I just think sort of thinking because
the NRL used KFC is advertising, that means the player
leade athletes don't have it.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
They do.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I mean, look at Lisa Carrington to Reckon, Lisa's touched
to Tim tam in fifteen years. I mean she has.

Speaker 17 (59:37):
Absolutely, absolutely, she had absolutely she would have said have
McDonald's and KFC.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Tell you what have you have you seen?

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Let's get her on. You've got a number, Let's give
her a rag and ask her.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I I you know you. I followed Dwight the Rock
Johnson social media and his cheat days are exciting. He
really leans into his cheak days. He works out all week,
he has very strict diet and then he absolutely gorgeous
on pancakes, caream everything one day a week and it's
it's it's beautiful to behalf.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:00:09):
No, absolutely, Maheedreisdale and that. You know, you ask them
if they enjoy the odd feet of KFC mcdonald'.

Speaker 8 (01:00:15):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 17 (01:00:15):
Probably the most hope profile one I don't know whether
you guys follow it. In twenty sixteen, in the American elections,
the Democrats dined on Donald Trump because apparently he loved
getting home deliveries of McDonald's at nighttime. Like they said, oh,
how can you be the president of America because he likes,
you know, ordering McDonald's at nighttime delivered to his place

(01:00:36):
and that. So I think that's probably the most hope
profile of trying to rubbish people that do have a
bit of junk food.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Nice trev Yeah, you said that very well.

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Well, in a few minutes, I'd like to tell you
about the most calorific burger in the world. Okay, this
is an impressive burger that's operating out of the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Okay, okay, so you want people to guess what the
burger is or how many calories it's gone. You're just
going to give that factoid.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Oh you can have a guess. You try't ever guess
how many calories the most calorific burger in the world has.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Give it a go, ten thousandries. Well we'll find out,
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Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Thank you very much, Raylan, and we are talking about
fast food advertisers. It's on the back of this grimmer shake.
It's everywhere at the moment. It's the latest food trend.
But we also ask the questions something about doing in
the UK. From October next year, they're going to have
a ban on junk food adverts being shown on Tally
before nine pm in the evening. Do we need to
follow suit? I mean there is quite an extreme rule

(01:02:59):
that they bring it into the UK. Clearly they think
it's a problem with that junk food advertising before nine
o'clock doesn't leave much time for adverts after nine o'clock
really doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
You can't. But we also look, you can't hide things
from people. You've just got to educate them about them.
But before the for the News I I teased what's
the most the world record for the most calorific burger
of all time? Yep, it is the heart Attack Grill
in Las Vegas, USA includes in its menu the one
point four to four kg it's called the quadruple bypass

(01:03:33):
burger packing and eighty two calories. So you were close
to these ten thousand.

Speaker 26 (01:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, that act called six point nine to one calories
per graham.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
That is a crazy amount of calories, though, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I've seen that place, the heart Attack Grill, and they
serve your drinks like in a drip. They come out
on a stand like you're in hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
They love those challenges, don't they. It's food challenges Americans. Yeah, Craig,
I think you're on met side on this one, aren't you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
Definitely? Yeah. I just want to take inference to the
woman who was on a couple of callers ago and
saying about politicians should be the ones you know who
were doing that the work and not being obas themselves. Well,
kids don't watch politicians for a start.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
That good point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
They're not they're not tuning into question time.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
I think that you take things away from kids. If
I know, when I was a kid, if somebody told
me I wasn't allowed something I didn't be how I
would find whatever it is and I'd have it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
So if you can't modern fashion the Grimersberger and say right,
you can have one to day, but just have held
until next week. Then you know you'll give them what
they want, but in moderation and also teaching them moderation.

(01:05:04):
Just like everything they will they will find whatever it
is whatever way they can.

Speaker 19 (01:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
No, that's fair point. And a lot of people agree
with with what you a medi saying there. Greg just
on the and I don't want to name the company here,
but we all know it. You know sports games where
you get the player of the day and they get
a wee voucher for a hamburger or something from a
fast food shop. Genuinely, do you think that's that's a
good message for kids.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
I think it's rewarding the kid for his effort during
the game. You're not giving him a hundred vouchers, You're
giving him one voucher.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Yeah, and then so do the market get the.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Trucks able to gorge himself on one voucher? And just
about the advertising in England on TV out time the pop,
they're obviously kidding themselves because kids don't get messages from TV,
they get it from social media.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Very true. Yeah, And I don't know what you can
do on that front, you know, trying to regulate social media.
Good luck to you and like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
In and you know, we're talking about the g the
Grimma's shake here, and I think that's a little bit
of a bit of a hard one in a way
because that's actually being being targeted at nostalgia, isn't it.
That Grimma Shake Grimace is the thing from the from
the nineties. But McDonald's also is pretty good. They don't

(01:06:28):
target their social media. It's eighteen plus. They don't. They
don't do. They have got no morning ads on the radio.
Their app is sixteen plus. They do. They do do things.
They don't have any billboards their skills and stuff, so
they are actually being reasonably responsible about that. And if
you give some if a if a a let's say,

(01:06:50):
like a burger joint is sponsoring sports and you get
and that's on the way home from sports, then you
I mean, you're allowed treats in life.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Of course you are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
If you've done some if you've done some work, or
you've played a game, then you're allowed to treat I mean, surely.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Greg, thank you very much for your phone call, but
just on that point, and the things that you said
that junk food companies do that doesn't target kids when
they're marketing. Do they do that out of the goodness
of their own heart or do they do that because
there's regulations in place.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Well, I think they'll be commercial realities around it as well.
But yeah, I mean, people this idea that everyone's evil
and they're trying to you know that, that corporations are
just evil and they're trying to destroy society just for profit.
I mean, most people are out there with reasonable moral compass,
aren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Yeah, I think so, And that's a fair point. I
don't think they are evil, but I think some of
their tactics make it incredibly hard for people like Lucretia,
who started off this conversation to help her do the
right things for her children. That extra pressure that she
gets from her son at the moment is making life
pretty tough for her.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Well, that's being a parent. I mean, it is exactly
what being a parent is. Since ancient times, parents have
had to deal with their kids and teach them one's
right and wrong in the world. That that's the that's
the absolute Harle point in it. And to go back
to what you're saying there is is as a coach
of a rugby team that takes the team out for

(01:08:20):
pizza after a game? Is he evil? Is he? Is
he the problem in the world because because pizza isn't
the best food in the world, should he be taking
them out for carrots and salary?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Get into that. Yeah, that's good. He's going to get
better at the sport of you know, is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
He or she awesome because they've played the game and
they all go out together and it's and it's a communal,
fantastic thing. They go out and get something to eat
afterwards together.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
How do you feel about And this is I mean
slightly tenuous, but I don't think it's too tenuous. The
ability to subsidize or make good food easier for people
to buy as a way to encourage behavior, good behavior
and behavior that you know, we want people to be
healthy because if they're healthy, they're not a drain on

(01:09:11):
the health system as a hard. Society as a whole
is better for it. I mean, you know, because he's
a public messaging right and I suppose that this sort
of all ties in. It's about human behavior and that
public messaging and marketing and all the rest of it.
Is there some responsibility around that or is it just
a free for all that will just bombard you with

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all of these these things that are probably not good
for you in large amounts. Of course, you can have
a treat and we're hoping you're going to make right
de sources that you're not going to walk all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
You're going to be What I'd say to that is
you're going to be barbar outside of corporations, outside of anything,
You're going to be bombarded with temptation right through your life.
I mean, there's there's illegal drugs out there, there's there's
there's a lot of things that you can do in
life that that won't be great for you. And at
some point you need to learn what you The ability

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to make the right choices very good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I'm getting to spanking on this and that's fine. I
will die on this hill and I'll die slowly and
pain fully.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
And also also public messaging. I want to talk about
the public messaging I had when I was a cad
about what was the good stuff to eat and what
wasn't So anyway, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
All right, that's coming up. It is seventeen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
It's done, new take on talk Bag mant Heath and
Taylor Adams afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty news talk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Sa'd be very good afternoon to you. It is fourteen
to three.

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
You mentioned a bit of public messaging that you work out,
so well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, well that's right. You were. You were a big,
big fan of public messaging before Tyler. Well, I was.
When I was a kid. I was told that the
healthy stuff was the bread and the pasta. So if
I made a spag bowl, i'd have I'd think the
maximum amount of pasta and the minimum out of mints
was the way to go. And when I had when
i'd get home from school, I think i'd be I

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thought I was being healthy when I butted up and
peanut buttered up half a loaf of white bread, and
then and then because that was that was the food
bare and back the grains were at the top. You
know that the carbs are at the top.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah, And did you do a deep dive? And who
created that pyramid? That was big bread? It was a big,
big past Yeah. I'm just assuming here that they took.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
You a grain. Yeah. So that was the public messaging.
And they had those food pyramids everywhere you went there
in schools. Yeah, they were, they were, they were everywhere,
sitting there feeling like you're doing the right thing. That's
pounding through loaf after loaf.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
I think the best thing you could have, yeah, was
white bread and as much chitta cheese as you can
lay on there, because dairy was pretty high up there.
And I love dairy. Deary is still I think good
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yeah, I think yeah, dairy is now good for you. Yeah,
dairy and eggs is now good for you. I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Bring it on, Simon, how are you.

Speaker 28 (01:11:47):
Matem loving this conversation, guys, iron that I come in
about three minutes for this debate after a pizza delicious.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
I lived in the UK for sixteen years, and I'd say,
don't use the UK as any example for anything like this.
God sake, it is a nanny.

Speaker 29 (01:12:10):
State where they've got to leave the bulk of the
population with rules and regulations. And if we go down
that road, the thousand rules that we bring in in
the next four years is going to be topped by
the ten thousand rules that we have to bring in
over the decade after that, and people will just go well,
if the government or the governing bodies don't make a

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rule for me, obviously, I'm living my life, okay, you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:35):
Know yeah, And it comes down to the individual. We've
got to make choices. I know my deal. If I
go for a McDonald's, a bigger keying Kentucky Fried or
a pizza, I'm going to have enjoyment for my taste buds,
but not a huge amount for nutrition, you know. So
I choose not to live off that stuff four or

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five days a week because I know what the result
will be. And hence, while we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
The diabetes going up.

Speaker 7 (01:13:04):
So these guys are in business and advertising, restricting the
advertising isn't going to quite change things, I think, And
I'm a bit of a hybrict here because I have
done work for a couple of these chains when they're
installing a new outlet and made money off of it.
But we shouldn't restrict them, I know, I know so,

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But we should restrict the numbers that they can open
up in the footfall going there is there isn't now
a formula for it. They have to have a certain
footfall going past the place for them to be able
to open up. We need to expand that up. I
remember I used to live out in Hawick and I
remember the nearest McDonald's was Mount Wellington at one point, Howick.

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Now you've probably got about eleven McDonald's within five minutes
of Howick in one in house, you know. And this
is just the way it's gone. And we think it's ridiculous. Now,
this is business people that are in business to increase profits.
Imagine we're all be in five years time. In year's time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Oh, they do their research before they set up another restaurant.
And it's not just macas any fast food restaurant. They
know what they're doing. They don't set it up. They
don't think they can get people through the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Well well until you educate people on you know, and
people make their own decisions and what they eat. But
you could open twenty five whole food stores down that
road and they'll be the empty that. That's the thing,
people that people have made their own choices and.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
They are making profit. So you can actually go right.
You're in business, You're after this target audience. You want
people come in your restaurant. We're going to take some
of your profits off here for the fallout afterwards, the
increase in diabetes. Our health system needs money. So sorry McDonald's, Sorry,
Pizza Hut, we're shedding ten percent of your profits off

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here to deal with the problem in your business.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Well, I mean, they do pay a lot of tax
as it is now, there's a lot of GST that that's.

Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
Paying tax, like the taxi company does, like the nutritious
company does. They should pay into the a bit and
actually acknowledge the rise and diabetes and the rise and
consumption of their products.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
But when you agree that until I mean, there's got
to be people making the right decisions. You can, you
can tax whoever, you can, you can shut down whoever,
but until people will find I mean you can, you can,
you can slam you know, as I say before, a
loaf of white bread. Yeah, and that's going to do.

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That's about the same as having a burger. So it's
it's it's more about education, I believe, and and people
making the right choices.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah. But again, you know, I love logic most of
the time. But you know, it's about consistency. And we
talk the other day about Levy's for motorcycle riders, and
they pay more because they're more at risk of being
hurt and costing the health system more. But to Simon's point,
you know, these organizations, they do provide treats, but some
of the some people eat more of those treats than
they should and end up costing us as taxpayers more

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down the long run. So you know, so if it's
about consistency, we make motorcycle riders pay more because they
are more at risk, then we make these guys pay
a little bit as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
And so you're going to text the fish and chip
shop down the road because because.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
They do a good fish and chip and that's mom
and the operation you're going to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Go through, and you're just going to do a moral
score on the food of everyone and text them accordingly.
I mean, that seems a bit much to me. And actually,
can I just go back? I was mean to say
this before, but I forgot because it slipped my mind.
But this ban on advertising in the UK, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
By the way, thank you so much. And I didn't
take a stance on that. I just floated the question
should we do that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
So what kids are watching linear TV? So who are
the kids that they're going to be not they've already
you can you can advertise all everything you You could
advertise crack on linear TV and kids wouldn't say it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Yeah, yeah, get the get the Grimmer's shape, rolling during
coronation straight and no problem, no problem. We'll have time
for another couple of cars.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
It is eight minutes to three, the issues that affect you,
and a bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath
and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you for twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (01:17:17):
Four you talk.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
News talks. B Jeff, how you doing.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
I'm pretty good, thanks mate. I'm a very patient man
waiting for you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
You are. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
So much, Jeff, I appreciate that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:31):
I'll tell it, Bob.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Yep, I'm seventy two years of age, okay, gotcha. At
the moment, I'm setting up pat beach.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Front here lovely, and.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
You know, over the years, I've never seen so many
overweight people.

Speaker 17 (01:17:49):
And I beat to the people.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Yep, there are their cars. I've just seen a family
walk down here now and show a whole lot of
McDonald's and dunk food into the rubbish from here, and
the whole lot of them are all fat and like
peace right now.

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
You know people who go.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
To McDonald's and KFC. I'm not going to say that
I've never ever gone to McDonald's and bought a burger,
but it would be very rare. Now these companies are
selling this food, right, yep, I am making big bucks.
I'm not killing well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
No, well okay, well i'd argue that that the people like,
there's a lot of things that can that can kill
you out there. You've got to make these decisions in
your life. I mean, I'll tell you what, when you
look at obesity that's changed over the years. It's the
difference between people eating whole foods, primarily making dinner at
home and generally eating and then maybe having some treats

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every now and then. I mean, that's that's that's that's
really the difference between obesity in the past and now.
There's always gonna be temptations, but if you can get
around to cooking meals at home mostly, then you'll probably
be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Jeff, thank you very much for your phone called good discussion.
I got to s en that's all right, we'll get
into something new after three o'clock. New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Oh excited about this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk It's Matt
Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
News Talk zed B, Welcome back into the showders seven
past three. It's Friday, and that means time for New
Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
That's right, Tyler. Each week on Matt and Tyler Afternoons
on z B, we name the New Zealander of the
Week in honor that we bestow on your behalf to
a newsmaker who has had an outsized effect on the
show over the previous five days. As always, there'll be
two runners up and a winner. And remember, like the
Time Magazine Person of the Year, the New Zealand of
the Week isn't always an agent of good. So without

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further missing around, here are our nominees and our winner
of the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the
Week Nominee one also receives the Low Energy Scandal Award
for cracking a joke that may or may not have
been funny, for making the L sign on your before
he had a decade after everyone else stopped doing it,
and for becoming the center of such a pointless, non

(01:20:13):
story ever scandal the opposition could barely muster up the
energy to pretend to be outraged. Minister of Commerce and
Consumer Affairs, Andrew Bailey, you are a nominee for New
Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Pretty good, Pretty good, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Nominee two also gets the Waste of Everyone's Time Award
for claiming you are relieved that you've finally been kicked
out of Parliament when you could have stopped wasting everyone's
time and money and done the right thing months ago.
Darling Tana, you are nominated for New Zealander of the Week.
Who But now for the big prize. This is the
one that counts. There can only be one New Zealander

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of the Week, and here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
It's been a week of sporting triumph for New Zealand.
From Team New Zealand to Liam Lawson, the Silver Ferns
to the White Ferns. The torch of New Zealand sports
sean brighter than ever, But one team sits as a
cheery a top that huge cake of success. We didn't

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know you or your sport even existed until this week.
We still don't know what you do or how it works.
But for smashing Italy six to one, at the World
Canoe Polo Championships in China, winning gold for the second
time in a row. The New Zealand Paddle Ferns.

Speaker 30 (01:21:27):
You are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of
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Give them a tast of key We God bless and
God speed to you and your family.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Worthy recipients.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Whoop and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Good winner this week. The New Zealand Garol for the week.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Yeah, I love a Friday because we're the New Zealand
of the week. Can At the end of the hour,
we have topical Tune. You pick a tune based around
an event of the week, and I pick one yep,
and then the best of three.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
It's one apiece at the stage, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Yeah, hang on, how does it work? The best the
first of.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Three, first to three, first to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Three on eighty ten eighty That person one's got them
really having trouble getting out the Edmond on this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Story recited about topical tunes. You're very excited. That's coming
up at about half an hour. But right now and
I think this is topical today for a couple of
reasons actually, But what is New Zealand's most challenging airport
for pilot? It's a great story in the papers today
that mentions the airports that pilots just really hate to
fly into because they're pretty chaotic, and we all know

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Wellington gets a bad rap. But as we speak, my
in law's May's parents have just flown into Wellington Airport
and I will quote because they've got the family chat
that I'm about, part of mum May's Mum Lisa beep
and how what a landing? Oh no, it was it terrible?
Well we made it. Golly, it must have been bad

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judging by your response. Pretty hairy in a small plane.
So I think they flew from Blenham. But as we
know today the weather is getting pretty gnarly down in
the south and clearly it's hitting Wellington now, so there's
been a lot of flights disrupted and a lot of
flights canceled into Wellington. But when you look at the
hairiest airports in New Zealand and around the world, I mean,

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for you, Matt Heath, what was the scariest airport that
you came into?

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I reckon in New Zealand there's a few, I mean Wellington.
People talk about it a lot, but I've had a
few hairy landings into Napier. Thankfully. One of the hairy
landings into Naviio had Captain Scott Buttery, who is New
Zealand's best ATR pilot. He's a fantastic pilot. He just
rammed it in like a tent peg and we got home.
I've had a flight into Vericago that was very rough.

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We basically sat above Gore and we heed when for
about an hour we nearly ran out of fuel. And
when I was getting off the plane, I talked to
the pilot and he said it was his first flo
he was going. It was a real tester. So everyone's
down there New Zealand, I mean Dunedin off the among
a tour that those mountains can apparently create a bit
of confusing, confusing sort of cross ones as well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Queenstown gets a bit of a bad rep sometimes can
be a really beautiful airport to fly in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
I love flying into Queenstown, I absolutely love it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Well, there we go tick straight away. That kept Scott
Buttery would have no problems for him. The stick down
into Wellington, oh Mamlin was Scott Buttery.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Oh keptain Skip Buttery. He is that he is the
best pilot in New Zealand without a doubt. I think anyone,
anyone that's in the aviation business will admit that he
trains the pilots in the ATR.

Speaker 8 (01:24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
And plus he's got the greatest name of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Scott Buttery. Yeah, he can do no wrong with that man.
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. And it is
topical today when we see what's going on in Wellington,
But what is the heerious landing net you've had? And
it doesn't have to just be in New Zealand, around
the world. Love to hear from you. I eight one
hundred eighty ten eighty. Text number is nine to nine two.
It is twelve past three back very shortly, very good

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afternoons you happy Friday, quarter past three, And we're talking
about these sketchy airports around the world and in New
Zealand on the back of a great story in the
paper today they interviewed four different pilots and we'll tell
you what they think are the sketchiest airports in New
Zealand very shortly. But first, Lee, how are you.

Speaker 21 (01:25:32):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
How are you yeah, good Landing's talk to us.

Speaker 26 (01:25:37):
Yes, Well, my head office is in Wellington, so I
can definitely attest to the terror that an Aucklander has
looking at the weather and going how strong is the wind?
And I know when it's less than forty that I'm
going to be okay, you know. So I had one
experience where I decided not to go because I could

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see the wind was sixty five. My colleague went. They
went all the way down there, tried to land three
times and came back. So that was a good decision day.
But what I want to tell you about is Queen's
Town because as much as I don't like Landing and Wellington,
Queen's Town is just terrifying. So I've had two flights

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in the last two years because my husband's company has
their conference there every second year and the other year
in Australia.

Speaker 16 (01:26:29):
So the first time.

Speaker 26 (01:26:31):
There we went down there, we was fine going down
and then when we were coming to come home, we
taxted down the runway, down the runway and it was
like we were always going to take off, and then
we jerked around to the right and stopped and we
were like, what was there? And then we didn't actually

(01:26:52):
hear anything for about five or six minutes, so we
were just you know, stationing on the roadway, going wow,
what's happening anyway, Then they announced that off some light
had gone off and we didn't have enough petrol. A
boorted takeoff like I never know, like I've never experienced

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a board and take off before. Yeah, And then we
went and taxi over to the side and then I guess,
you know, we had this kind of you know, tanker
come fill us up, and then they're like, okay, we're
going out. I'm like, do we really want to be
in this plane right now trying again?

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Do you want to go through another checklist one more
time and make sure we've got everything else?

Speaker 26 (01:27:35):
But it was fine. And then then this year or
was it last year now, and I went back to
Queenstown and my husband and the landing was like the
worst crosswind ever and the whole plane was shaking, and they,
you know, they said, oh, we can't do the service,
you know, because it's too turbulent, and it was just
like shaking the whole way going down the Alps, and

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it was I was so terrified.

Speaker 23 (01:27:59):
I was like, I was like, why did.

Speaker 26 (01:28:01):
This feat and then we landed as Judis came over
and she said, are you all right, marrim and I said, well,
been an hour on the ground. I said to my husband,
you know it's time and we have that. I think
I'm going to find it to meet them and drive.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Oh there's well told, great story, leade, Yeah, I've heard.
I mean, Queenstown can be beautiful but can be real sketchy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
I remember Ian Bishop, the great West Indian fast bowler
and cricket commentator. He was in New Zealand and he
made this comment of it. He goes, New Zealand has
the best pilots in the world because they have to
land sideways.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Well, I tell you, I mean because Wellington does get
a bad rap for good reason. But it is considered
one of the most sketchy airports in the world. And
I'll give you some more details about that very shortly,
in terms of where it compares to other dodgy airports
or hard airports. To land on Scott's how you doing
a how are you good? This isn't Captain Scott Buttery,

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is it.

Speaker 20 (01:29:05):
It's not. I wish it was, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
He's the best of us. Kiptain Scott Battery.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
So craziest landing you've had, Scott. Where was it Iraq?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, what was the airline before we start?

Speaker 20 (01:29:22):
It was a one Royal Air Force plane. Okay, tactical
landing at night?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Wow? So what what business were you in that you
were in that plane?

Speaker 20 (01:29:35):
Soldier at the time?

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Okay, yep. Cool.

Speaker 20 (01:29:38):
So they flew in at night, night vision goggles on,
and they come in real high to get above any
danger and then they basically point the nose pretty much
straight down on cork screw all the way down until
they can put it down on the tarmac.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
So by corkscrew, what do you mean? So they're going
the sort of well corkscrew.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
It just spins down, spins down, You point the nose
to the ground and just just spin it round and
what so they can get enough.

Speaker 20 (01:30:10):
Then get downe quicker?

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Oh wow slowly and what Yeah, you're straight down at
this point. I take it you gotta harness on.

Speaker 20 (01:30:16):
Yeah yeah, but a Hercules transporter doesn't have seats like
a normal aeroplane, so it's not a comfortable thing to
the end at night. Then suddenly you're up ended. Yeah,
not something you'd want to repeat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
It and that that's a Hercules So that's that's you know,
that's a four propeller plane or is how many six?
Is it six six six four four injurs Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Wow, that's crazy. And what were you doing in Iraq?

Speaker 20 (01:30:50):
We just invented?

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
So this was wor this was with the British a
forcee Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Fascinating And so what's your gut doing at that point? Like,
you know, I have a little bit of depth dip
in in some turbulence and I feel like I've left
my stomach behind. How how are you feeling internally when
you're corkscrewing towards the ground in a propeller plane?

Speaker 20 (01:31:12):
It's not pleasant?

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Yeah, I bet Scott you're a fascinating man. We'd love
to chat with you for longer because it sounds like
a hell are a situation in Iraq. We're going to
have to bring that up another time. We're going to
keep your number, Scott, Christine, how are you?

Speaker 18 (01:31:29):
Thank you?

Speaker 31 (01:31:31):
I used to fly and dwelling them many years ago
on business and when we had the you know, the
planes with the wings on top yep, and it was
very hairy, and so you got you got to know
that if the wheels weren't on the ground. By the
time you passed a certain warehouse, you.

Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
Weren't going to make it.

Speaker 31 (01:31:50):
You'd have to take off again, and that happened quite often.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Yeah, there's something about taking off again, isn't there, Because
especially you're coming in and you're feeling like, okay, at
least we'll be on the ground soon and then you're.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Not bordered landing. Say, nothing worse than thing.

Speaker 31 (01:32:09):
Oh no, And the other interesting airline airport to go into,
and it's changed now, they've got a new one.

Speaker 8 (01:32:16):
Many years ago.

Speaker 31 (01:32:18):
Was in Hong Kong and you're flying between the high
risers and you could see into people's bedrooms. It was
like flying down the street that kai.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Tuk is that how you pronounce it in Hong Kong.

Speaker 8 (01:32:33):
But they've moved that.

Speaker 31 (01:32:34):
They moved the airport then out to an island.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Yeah, they've moved it out into the ocean pretty much.

Speaker 7 (01:32:38):
The air Yeah, yeah, but that was interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Yeah, great stories, Thank you very much. Oh one hundred
and eighty ten eighties And I'm going to call what
is the the hiious airport that you've had to fly
into this text here, guys, my sister in law arrived
from Sydney last night on the midnight flight. Took the
pilot three goats to get into Wellington from ivan.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Three goes yeah, So, I mean, where do you go
you're coming in from Sydney that you can't turn around
and go back to Sydney, can you?

Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
I mean you might be able to, but well, what.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Point do you give up? If you're the pilot, if
you're Scott Buttery, Captain Scott Buttery, do you just keep going? Well,
you get to attempt number ten and thinking we're going home.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
I had three attempts into Nandy, once on a plane
and then they abandoned ship and well, abandoned ship, abandoned
plane and went over to just suber And yeah, I was.
I was not in a good state by the end
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Oh bed oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It is
twenty three past three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on news talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
So I mentioned before survey out in twenty twenty two
of the fifteen scariest airport landings in the world, and
I'll give you a few of those. Now. Wellington is
in the list, and I'll tell you where. But one
of them is look, look look La Airport in Nepal.
I butchered that therapy was ton Conton Airport in Honduras,

(01:34:13):
Pardo Airport in Bhutan. Hear a lot about that. There's
a few of them in the Himalayas, makes sense. Saba
Airport that's in Dutch Caribbean. Coushcheval International Airport in France,
high in the mountains looks real scary actually, And I'll
give you a few more over the next ten minutes.
Wellington's certainly up there, though. Does that surprise you?

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Wellington's in there? Well, I mean, Wellington's there purely on wind.
I mean the rest of them are dealing with mountains,
aren't they. Wellington's getting there just on the wind factor.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Scariest airport landings you've had eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Hey you anna.

Speaker 26 (01:34:51):
Oh hello there, I love your show.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Go thank you now.

Speaker 26 (01:34:55):
I've been nursing for over forty years and this is
a story from when I was a baby nurse a
long time ago in eleven a before the national unit
moved across to the Auckland site, and one night I
had to go with the team part of the flying
squad to pick up a twenty six week up from Kaitia. Now,

(01:35:19):
back in the day, they didn't have an airstrip, they
didn't have lights. So all the local farmers came out
with their tractors and all sorts of vehicles anything the
lights and lit up lit up the airstrip so that
we could land and we were only in a little flame.
And it was one of the scariest curious things I've.

Speaker 32 (01:35:37):
Ever done in my life.

Speaker 26 (01:35:40):
But yeah, picked up bubs, got it back to Auckland
and all was well. But yeah, that was a pretty
scary time.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
So what what were actually landing on there?

Speaker 20 (01:35:49):
Was?

Speaker 8 (01:35:49):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Was it a field?

Speaker 26 (01:35:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Wow, I think.

Speaker 26 (01:35:54):
They had an airstrip. But my from recall, because I'm
going back into the sort of early eighties, I think
they didn't have landing lights on their airstrip.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Right, Yeah, that's so cool.

Speaker 26 (01:36:09):
Tractors and anything that had a light.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
And how many how many people on the plane? How
big big a plane is this?

Speaker 14 (01:36:18):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:36:18):
Think it's the pilot, myself and a doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
And run for bus yea.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
And how many tractors came out for you? Are we
talking half a dozen? There weren't many, you know, tonight,
so so Barry's got to get a couple of tractors.

Speaker 26 (01:36:37):
And oh seriously, it seemed like not many, you know,
looking out the window. And it's something that stayed with me.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
I have to say, great story and heroic for you,
Hannah Tony.

Speaker 8 (01:36:52):
How you doing good afternoon chat.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
I see you're coming through from Wellington, so you've probably
had a few lengths. Sorry you go.

Speaker 8 (01:37:00):
Which of the two of you is tilot on the
publicity photos? Left or right?

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Take a guess.

Speaker 8 (01:37:08):
I think you're on the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Left, you know you are? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're Ye're
well done?

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
No, no, no, if you're looking at it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
The winds, which way you're looking at it?

Speaker 14 (01:37:19):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Okay, from your I'm on the one with the glass.

Speaker 8 (01:37:24):
I learned the taller of the two, is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:37:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
And correct and correct?

Speaker 8 (01:37:29):
Yeah? Well, perhaps you do need to be Tyler well
well anyway, Yeah, a landing in Wellington, please. My experience
goes back at least twenty years ago, flying into Wellington
on a fucker friendship. I had occasion living in christ
Church to come to Wellington frequently, and on this particular flight,

(01:37:51):
most of the rest of The passengers were the Highlem
Globe trophies Wow Team Wow, and sitting fairly close to
the back. We're coming into land from the sea and
it was probably something like a northwestern coming in, so
it's a cross wind and it was a hell of
a gale like today.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (01:38:11):
And as we're coming in there's no sea and everything,
and this this arm, this hand to grab my shoulder
and says, hey, man, well look out the window. He said,
the runways disappeared. He said, we ignoring the wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Way, coming in sideways.

Speaker 8 (01:38:32):
Well it's true. Well, I don't know that it's true.
You are going in sideways, but there is an illusion, yeah,
that you can look the length of the runway from
the side window when you're coming into the land, when
you're getting close.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Yeah, there's a there's a way they do it. Someone
someone told me about this. I would mind some more details.
Would be great to get a pilot if there's a
pilot that's entering up on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
But there's a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
If you're flying you might want to teach her as well.
Nine two nine two.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Yeah, they do. They do these things, and sometimes that
the wing will be right down close to the ground
because they know at the last second they've got to pull.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
It back and they kind of get the back out
of but gon then whip it around as they hit
the ground. It's a hell of an art, doesn't it.
Thank you very much, Tony. Now I mentioned this survey
app from twenty twenty two about the scariest airport landings
in the world. So Wellington International Airport of course makes
the list. McMurdo Station in Antarctica very sketchy. Princess Juliana

(01:39:28):
International Airport in Saint Martin, Now you would have seen this.
This is the one that gets real close to the
beach and they've got the people sunbathe and then they
kind of make a bit of fun out of it
that they get a little bit of the engine backdraft,
if you will, when they sit in on the beach.
So that's a bit of a bit of a game
for those people. And there's one more airport in New
Zealand that made this list.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Okay, well, what do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Nine two? You want to take a guess on on
what the airport is. I don't think you'll guess it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
It's not mammona airport. Is it No, it's not. Oh
maybe maybe maybe let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Okay, that's coming up very shortly. It is twenty before.

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(01:40:35):
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(01:40:56):
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(01:41:16):
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You can read his full column at enzid Herald Premium.
Now back to matt Ethan Tyner Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Thank you very much, Railli. Now I mentioned before we're
talking about the world's scariest landings and terms of airports,
and a survey done by Forbes magazine in twenty twenty
two listed the fifteen scariest airport landings of the world.
Wellington made the list, and I asked the question, there's
one more New Zealand airport on that list of fifteen
scariest landings.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
What numbers Wellington?

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Wellington is number six, number six in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Yeah, go key.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
We so this other New Zealand airport is a little
bit further down the list. But what did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
So you tried to have a guess, I said, I said,
Momona International Airport, which is Danneedan the airport, but Dannedin
doesn't really have an airport. But the small town of Momona,
forty five minutes from Dunedin, has quite a massive airport.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Yeah yeah, wrong, so wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
And I've talked to pilots and they've said that is
a tricky airport.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Not according to Forbes. According to Forbes Forbes, a lot
of guests is coming through Queenstown. It's not Queenstown Great
Burrier Nook Airport. No, no, but some people have got
it right. Apparently Gisbon the airport one of the serious lands.
And I'll tell you why. Here's the rationale from Forbes.
With three grass runways and one main runway, it intersects

(01:42:42):
with the National Railway line. Landings are coordinated with accurate
schedules to avoid approaching trains. So there you go, the
old train. You don't want a plane to head a train.
That is a bad time for all.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Involved, planes, trains and autobiles.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Yeah, Kathy, how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:42:57):
Oh good?

Speaker 24 (01:42:58):
It's not a scary one. It's just slightly funny. In
early nineteen seventies, to get to Western so more Apia
you had to go through Panlton and from Pangapan you
got on a d C four or six. I can't
remember what, and flights across. The pilot sort of looks
around and then does a big turn and calls out

(01:43:20):
very cheer elite to everybody, Sorry, we're going around again.
They're just chasing the cows off the.

Speaker 20 (01:43:29):
Figulous thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Wow, you wouldn't want to plow through a cow and
you're landing a plane. That would that would be that
would be missing. I feel like the plane. Yeah, I
mean it means how many cows? How many cows can
a plane get through a lot? It was the plane, Kathy.

Speaker 24 (01:43:47):
It was either a D four or D c Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Yeah. Those were tanks of planes, weren't they. They were.
They were pretty bulky planes.

Speaker 24 (01:43:55):
And when you're sitting in it before it takes off,
you're sort of a forty five degree that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
They sat really high and on. Yeah, they sit really high,
and the wheels were huge.

Speaker 24 (01:44:07):
Cabin into the it's sort of slamming open and shut.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Great. Yeah, great story, Katy. Thank you very much of
a great long weekend. Ashley. How are you hey?

Speaker 8 (01:44:19):
Good?

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
How are you going doing?

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
What's the airport?

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
I flew into Lucla Airport.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
In Oh Yeah, that was the one that I butchered
when I tried to pronounce it. So, so what happened
at Lucla?

Speaker 32 (01:44:33):
Yeah, so well, I mean I survived, so nothing happened.
But it's the most extraordinary airport I think I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
In my entire life. It's it just drops off.

Speaker 32 (01:44:45):
It's a very very very small runway and there's nothing.
It's a it's just a pit of despair straight after it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
I'm just showing many a picture of it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
It looks it looks like a narrow street.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
Sorry.

Speaker 32 (01:45:03):
We were in about a twelve seater plane. So you're
already we're taking off Fromkatman Do and you of it
is just snaking around the him Malaysia. You're sort of
in awe and in a bit of a dream state,
and you're just wondering where you're going to land, and
it it's sort of turns a hard left into a
valley where you're obviously the mountains are above you, both

(01:45:23):
on either side. Then it's got to take a hard
right to this tiny, tiny little strip. It's I mean,
everyone on the plane was breaking it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
What kind of weather conditions were you landing in?

Speaker 32 (01:45:38):
We we got lucky. There was a bit cloudy leaving
but when we got up there, it was a pretty
clear day. A couple of days before there was a
few flights that got canceled and have to turn around.
But it's the it's the taking off that's that's worse,
because it's obviously the runways slightly downhill. It's a really
small plane and I've never I've never been in an
airport where it just stops and then there's nothing. It's

(01:45:59):
just mountains, so there's.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
No going back. Once you go off the cliff, you've been.
You've got to go up and down.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
That's it.

Speaker 32 (01:46:06):
Yeah, and then you're right in front of the Malaya,
so you've got a bank a hard left, otherwise you're
going straight into a mountain. It's it's it's still liver
me forever. I think you dreams about it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
What were you doing in Nepal?

Speaker 32 (01:46:20):
I was doing over a space camp and that's where
we have, That's where we had to start it. So yeah,
just a phenomenal, phenomenal country in place and people and
absolute basship mental airport.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Well sit Actually that's great. Did you ever watched Golden Eye?
You know, James won Golden Eye Pierce Frosenen. It looks
a lot like that airport at the start, very similar,
where you know he just he just guns the plane
off the airport into the abyss manages to pull it
out because he's James Bond and fly through. But I'm
pretty sure that might be where they're filmed.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
It was flying in to Mariuairport at one point and
the Arons, yeah, I'm saying that right, were iced and
we're just before we got on the plane, the pilot
went in and boiled a kettle and he came out
in the poured hot water to get the slap Sky.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
How did you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
I felt terrible about that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
Attitude, just the kid the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
I don't feel it was good about that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Dave, how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:47:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:47:23):
Good guys, great topic. I'm just going to tell you
about an interesting flight coming into wrong Attai. My wife
and I were coming from.

Speaker 7 (01:47:36):
Chrost Church.

Speaker 22 (01:47:38):
In the middle of the winter, beautiful day. It was
a southerly and we came we approached from the north,
coming down Evans Bay and as far as I was
looking at the Bollywood sign, so we're almost at touchdown,
and suddenly we went right up again and I thought,

(01:47:59):
oh dear, it's not the wind. Maybe we've got a
leaning year problem. But what it was. The pilot came
on on on the intercom after a couple of minutes
and that type of thing as there had been a
five men two earthquake and Wellington, so they shut they

(01:48:19):
shut everything down. So we spent the next hour circling
right over Marlborough, Nelson, Taraniki and then finally approached again.
When they cleared, they gave the airport all the okay,
so it's not only the wind in Wellington, it can
be other things.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
Yeah, shapers, that would have been scary.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
David who that's a couple of things to deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Yeh. I don't know if I want to fly anymore,
to be honest, but that was a great forty minutes.
Thank you very much. So as we do every Friday
time Topical Tune, so for the third time ever, so
it's currently sitting one one on the topical tune. We've
each got one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Do you want to do the Edmund aroundix? I butcher
that at the start of the hour.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
Yeah, So if you haven't heard this before, topical tunes,
me and Matt or Matt and I each peck a
song relays to a topic of the week that we
think was one of the main themes of the week
news wise. So do you want to go first or
do you want me to go first?

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
I'm happy to go first. Yeah, okay, I'm happy to
go first, Tyler. So no, no, you know what, No,
I'll be magnanimous. I'm a sport I'm a fair player.
I'll let you go first day, all right, okay, And
so basically what happens. You've butchered the Edmond as well there, buddy, Yeah, yeah,
we both play that tune on the topic and then

(01:49:36):
the best of three callers on eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
First of three, three it out? Yep, you can kill it?

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Can someone write this Edmund down so we can get
it out? Probably I've used about four hundred words to
describe a very simple thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
We each beg a song. First to three takes it
out as the winner of topical tune. So my theme
this week it was the big one, the Crown Observer
coming into Wellington City Council. They've had some problems there,
we all know it. But here's my song for today.
Hang on, how.

Speaker 33 (01:50:07):
Do little River bends? Little River bends?

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
Great song, great topic, beat that you can't beat that, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
I can go. Okay, here we go. So Team New Zealand,
Liam Lawson, the Silver Ferns, the White Ferns, the Black Caps,
the New Zealand Pedal Ferns, who won the New Zealander
of the Week. We are simply the best. And when
your country is simply the best, there is only one
song you can play. But yeah, yeah, the Wellingston City

(01:50:51):
Council is very exciting, Taylor not.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
There's there's not too many people in press. And that
producer Booth I saw and here the Heithers producer came
round and just shook his head at you, saying, outrageous, man, outrageous. Right,
you know what to do? Oh eight, one hundred and
eighty ten, Natie, get on the phones. There can only
be one when you know what you need to do.
Get on the phones.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
It is quarter to four.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Mat Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons You
for twenty twenty four used talk said be all right.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Here we go. Time for topical Tunes, where Matt and
I each pick a song related to a theme of
the week. So this week I've gone for little riverbands
in relation to the Crown Observer coming in and sorting
out the Wellington City Council beat that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
You didn't think to go I'll be watching you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Ah yeah, that would have been a good choice actually,
but no little riverband. Who doesn't like the little river band?

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
I stole that suggestion from a teacher of nineteen I
tel I didn't think that one myself. And because we
are fantastics at sport as a country and with a
great there's place on the planet. And we had the
Silver Ferns, the White Ferns, the Black Caps, Liam Laws
and Team New Zealand. We were absolutely kicking ass. You're

(01:52:13):
simply the best. You play simply the best.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
How cheap by Tina? Tina Turner would be disappointed in you.
I mean hanging, hanging that beautiful song right here we
go first to three. Takes it out. Maddie. How you doing.

Speaker 17 (01:52:30):
I'm good.

Speaker 9 (01:52:31):
I think Maddie's got the.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Backbone here right, vote for Tina. Thank you very much?

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Me you reue? How are you?

Speaker 23 (01:52:42):
I'm great?

Speaker 26 (01:52:43):
Think you and Tina is the best?

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Yes you are. Yeah, it's first of three. Tyler. You
were and you're you're a match point right now, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
This could be the first down trap.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Who thought that people wouldn't be excited about the Wellington
City council situation.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
But it's about the Little River Band. I just read
it right that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
So it's a great song. It's a great song, right Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
How are you? Mate?

Speaker 6 (01:53:06):
I thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
What do you reckon t with a little River band?

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
Well Taylor? Yeah, where the Wellington councils can turn? Yeah,
I think can help them. Tina Turner is great rugby
league song.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Yeah that's right, win yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Year right, that's the first down trail. Thank you very much. Well,
I don't know I'm going to say thank you Greg.
You're a good man. But cheaper is right? Yeah?

Speaker 34 (01:53:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Are we going to play the song now?

Speaker 10 (01:53:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Actually we're gonna no, no, we're gonna we're gonna get
some messages away and then we're gonna have a wee
chat and play out a bit of Tina Turner because
that's a nice end.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Okay, if we get in for the.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Long weekend, all right, stick with us. It is ten
to four backfree shortly kicked your butt, the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between that Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons. You for
twenty twenty four US talk, said B.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Said B.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
Well that is almost us for this week, and Medie,
well done. You're won with this song. But before we'll
play that out to the long weekend. And it's been
a good week and big sporting events over the weekend,
the or blecks of.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Course, and the series starts. You're right, your mic.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
On, Yeah, my MIC's on. Your mike's on. This is
a good we got We've got a song to play here,
all right, Hey, thank you very much for this week.
Really enjoyed it. Have a great long weekend whatever you're doing.
If you're going away, stay safe on the roads and
we'll see you again next week.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
And you know what, everyone, you're simply the best to me,
give a taste.

Speaker 35 (01:54:43):
To Kiwai, the farts on fire, conle me wild and wild.

Speaker 36 (01:55:08):
Ay, give me a life time promises and a world frame.
Speak the lame with love like you know.

Speaker 32 (01:55:25):
One in me.

Speaker 35 (01:55:30):
I had a can't be your ron, That's all the
biggest trouble.

Speaker 34 (01:55:39):
It simply the best rest land wrong, get mine, stop
on your wall, I hang.

Speaker 7 (01:56:03):
On, said.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Chairs.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
I was rapped off me.

Speaker 10 (01:56:14):
You dead.

Speaker 36 (01:56:17):
In your heart the start of every night and every day.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Your eyes.

Speaker 35 (01:56:28):
I get lost, I get washed door.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
Just as long as your.

Speaker 37 (01:56:38):
Mom look no cluse. You're simply the best.

Speaker 34 (01:57:03):
Stopped on the.

Speaker 14 (01:57:13):
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